是 yes
这是斯蒂芬·丹开始录制了吗 so this is stephen dan is it start recording
然后 then
是的，是的 yep
是的，你是干什么的？ yep what are you
学习 studying
也许有人想带头，也许你知道吗？ maybe someone wanna take a lead maybe did you know
杰米 jamie
我 i
求婚 propose
约翰 john
好的，好的，简单点，好的，为了节省时间，好的，我们开始吧，是的，不，你应该注册 okay alright so to be simple right just to save time okay let's start yeah no you should have to register
也许你想做个演示，好的，那么我来做一个关于我的项目的演示 maybe you want to provide a presentation okay so i will give a presentation about my project
好的，那我们开始吧 okay so let's start
它 it
好的，大家好，谢谢你们的光临，我的名字是朱，这是我的项目 okay hello everyone thank you for coming my name is ju and my project
是一种乳房电磁扫描仪 is a breast electromagnetic scanner
本项目由中国博士监制，金全珍副教授、范阳博士共同监制。 this project is supervised by doctors by china and co supervised by associate professor jin quanzhen and doctor fan yang
在中国，由于Covid19大流行，我不能用飞翔去澳大利亚，直到边境开放后旅行禁令才能取消 in china due to the covid nineteen pandemic i cannot fly to australia until the travel ban is cancelled once the border is open
我 i
将要 will
旅行 travel
至 to
澳大利亚 australia
哦，对不起，我忘了分享演示文稿了 oh sorry i forget to share the presentation
好的好的你能看到我的幻灯片吗 okay okay can you see my slide yep
是的，是的 yep
好的，那么对于议程，这个演示文稿在第一部分有三个部分 okay so for the agenda this presentation has three parts in the first section
第二部分介绍我的研究对象，简要介绍乳腺癌和微波成像技术。 showing you my research object in the second part i will give a brief introduce about breast cancer and a microwave imaging technique
介绍我打算在研究中填补的文献空白。在最后一节中，我将谈一谈我的研究计划。 introduce about the gap in the literature that i intend to fulfill in my research in the last section i will talk about my research plan
阿 ah
因此，本研究旨在开发一种新的早期乳腺癌微波成像样机。 so this research aims to develop a new microwave imaging prototype for early breast cancer
筛选 screening
这个，这个，我希望在我的研究中实现三个目标 um this uh there are three objects that i hope to fulfill in my research
首先，对现有的微波层析算法进行优化，提高图像分辨率和计算量。 first i will optimize the existing microwave microwave tomographic algorithm to improve the image resolution and computation
时间 time
那么我想用深度学习技术 then i would like to employ deep learning technique
对于乳房来说 for breast
我们的乳房组织分割 of our breast tissue segmentation
在……里面 in
微波乳房图像可以建立微波图像之间的相关性 microwave breasts the image which can establish the correlation between the microwave image
和 and
现有扫描模式 existing scanning modalities
例如mri，接下来我希望建模并绘制地图，制作一个实验室微波成像原型，并对其进行测试。 such as m r i next i hope to model and map fabricate a laboratory microwave imaging prototype and test it
使用 with
具有各种组织密度的逼真3D打印乳房模体，这可以提供更逼真的成像场景 realistic 3d printed breast phantoms with various tissue densities this can provide a much more realistic imaging scenario
本项目将建成一套低成本、长电离、高分辨率的图像处理系统。 and this project will build a low cost long ionizing high image resolution system
其中使用低功率微波暂停对早期乳腺肿瘤进行成像 which use low power microwave pause to image the early stage breast tumor
在……里面 in
准确的方式 an accurate manner
该系统可在医院或医疗中心内使用 the system can be used inside a hospital or medical center
并为人们提供了乳房成像的新身份 and provide people a new identity for breast imaging
并且有更多的潜在患者在早期诊断乳腺癌，这个项目有没有积极的影响？ and have more potential patients to diagnose the breast cancer in very early stage does this project has a positive impact
在……上面 on
乳癌筛查服务 breast cancer screening service
为 for
高 high
风险人群 risk people
mm mm
根据世界卫生组织的最新报告，全球癌症负担估计已经上升。 according to the latest report from world health organization the global cancer burden is estimated to have risen
至 to
在澳大利亚，有1810万新病例和900万人死亡，乳腺癌是澳大利亚最常见的被诊断的癌症。 eighteen point one million new cases and a nine million deaths in in australia breast cancer is the most common diagnosed cancer in
女人 women
第二个是 and the second
最多 most
癌症死亡的常见原因 common cause of cancer death
同时也有报道称，及早发现乳腺肿瘤可以提高五年生存率。 and it is also reported that detecting breast tumor in very early stage can increase the five year survival rate
至 to
九十 ninety
5% five percent
乳房是由乳癌构成的一种疾病，在这种疾病中，乳房中的细胞会不受控制地生长。 breast are made of breast cancer is a disease in which can cells in the breast grow out of control
胸部由低跟和鸭子组成，周围环绕着 and breast made of made up of low heels and ducks surrounding by the
琐碎的 petty
和 and
结缔组织 the connective tissues
是 are
你 you
这个 the
一旦癌细胞扩散到鸭子或说客之外，进入乳腺组织，它们可能会形成一个肿块，称为 once the cancer cells spread outside the ducks or lobbyists and into the breast tissue they may form a lump called
浸润性乳腺癌 invasive breast cancer
所以乳癌成像的黄金标准是x射线乳房X光检查，尽管目前乳房X光检查 so the golden the gold standard for breast cancer imaging is the x ray mammography although mammography currently
已经经历了几次 has undergone several
改进 improvements
乳房X光检查的假阴性检出率仍然很高，从4%到34%，很难对25%的女性进行成像 mammography still has a high false negative detection rate from four percent to thirty four percent and it is difficult to image twenty five percent of women
使用 with
谁有丰满的乳房 who has dense breast
此外，乳房X光检查中的乳房压迫会使许多患者感到不适和 in addition breast compression in mammography will make many patients feel uncomfortable and
甚至 even
痛苦的 painful
还包括 also
X射线 x rays
提供电离辐射，因此是不可取的 provide ionizing radiation and hence are not advisable
为 for
长 long
时间曝光 time exposures
超声波是另一种检测乳腺癌的技术，它使用换能器将声波送入乳房。 ultrasound is another technique for breast cancer detection it uses a transducer to send my sound wave into the breast
并检测乳房内部的回声 and detect echoes from inside the breast
然而，实际声音不利于母乳喂养，因为它灵敏度低，经验丰富，需要操作员进行检查 however actual sound is not advantageous for breastfeeding as it has low sensitivity and a high experience the operator is needed to perform an examination
磁共振成像是检测乳腺癌的另一种有用的筛查方法。 magnetic resonance imaging is another useful screening tour for breast cancer detection
在检测侵袭性和微小异常方面具有很高的敏感度。 and it is highly sensitive in detecting invasive and small abnormalities
比较 compared
使用 with
乳房X线摄影 mammography
和 and
超声波技术 ultrasound techniques
它可以有效地用于随后扩散的患者。 and it can be used effectively for patients with then spread
然而， however
对于早期阶段来说，费用相对较高。 it is relatively expensive for early stage
筛选 screening
使用 using
磁共振成像 mri
因此，目前筛查工具的局限性促使研究人员研究乳腺癌的替代方式。 so the limitation of the current screening tools has encouraged researchers to investigate alternative modality for breast cancer
筛选 screening
微波成像已经被许多研究小组广泛研究，或者具有几个优点，包括低成本。 microwave imaging has been extensively investigated by many research groups or with several advantages including low cost
呃，不，没有辐射，与目前的技术相比，使用起来很方便 uh no no radiation and the ease of use compared with current technique
我 i
微波成像是一种用来探测隐藏或嵌入的技术。 microwave imaging is a technique used to detect hidden or embedded
使用微波来探测介质中的物体，而微波探测的基本原理是锐利 object inside a medium using microwaves and the fundamental principle of microwave detection is the sharp
对比度 contrast
癌变组织的动态特性与健康组织进行比较，并将其与健康组织进行比较 in the dynamic properties of the cancerous tissue in comparison with and compares them to healthy tissues
而微波成像系统是基于两个 and microwave imaging system is based on two
主要部件 main parts
负责照明和收集从被照明物反射的微波信号的硬件，例如 hardware responsible for illuminating and collecting microwave signals reflected from the illuminated objects on the test such
作为 as
组织和软件或成像算法 tissue and software or imaging algorithms
其负责重建目标对象的成像 that are responsible for reconstructing an imaging of the target object
在文献中，使用微波方法进行乳腺癌成像的技术有两种，一种是断层扫描技术，另一种是使用微波方法的乳腺癌成像技术。 in literature there are two techniques for breast cancer imaging using microwave methods one is tomography and the other one
是 is
基于雷达的技术 radar based technique
微波断层摄影术应用微波信号照射乳房组织，重建乳房的永久性活动和连通性。 microwave tomography apply microwave signals that illuminate the breast tissue to reconstruct the permanent activity and connectivity of the breast
该方法旨在完全重建黄铜组织的电特性剖面。 this approach aims at complete reconstruction profile of the the electric properties of the brass tissue
层析方法通常是迭代执行的，并且可以用长线性逆来表示 the tomographic approach is usually performed iteratively and can be represented by a long linear inverse
问题 problem
这需要大量的计算资源来产生乳房的辩证属性 that require significant computational resources for producing the dialectic properties of the breast which
可能 could
是时候了 be time
消费 consuming
以及数据库技术人员和外部微波源，用来照射乳房组织 and database technique employee and external microwave source to illuminate breast tissue with
超 ultra
宽 wide
频带信号 band signals
利用乳腺后向散射信号进行乳腺肿瘤的检测，避免了使用长线性逆算法恢复乳腺肿瘤的缺点。 the back scattered signals from the breast are used to detect breast tumor it avoids using long linear inverse algorithm for recovering the
完成 complete
乳房的侧貌 profile of the breasts
因此成像时间可能会很快，而基于雷达的微波成像方法只能检测肿瘤的位置和大小。 so the imaging time could be very fast however radar based microwave imaging methods can only detect the tumors location and the size
它丢失了许多有关肿瘤恶性程度的重要临床信息，如肿瘤的形状，所以在我的研究中 it loses many important clinical information about the malignancy of the tumor such as the shape of the tumor so in my research
我打算使用微波断层成像作为成像重建算法。 i intend to use microwave tomography as the imaging reconstruction algorithms
因此，最近的研究有力地表明微波成像具有很高的潜力。 so recent study gave a strong indication that microwave imaging has a high potential
然而，对于人类女性乳房图像和癌症检测来说，计算时间和图像分辨率都是一个挑战。 for both image of the human female breast and cancer detection however computation times and image resolution present a challenge
在……里面 in
微波层析成像 microwave tomography
以及以前图像重建算法的时间和恢复分辨率 and time and restore resolution for previous image reconstruction algorithm
是 is
二十分钟我二十分钟十毫米 twenty minute me twenty minutes and ten millimeters
分别 respectively
计算时间越快，就能让更多的人参与到筛查服务中来，分辨率越高，就能提供更多的临床信息 the faster the computing time can let more people participate into the screening service and a higher resolution can provide more clinical information
嗯，比如肿瘤的形状，以便医生对患者进行评估 uh such as the shape of the tumor for physician to give a evaluation to the patient
同样重要的是，微波成像应该与现有的 and it is also important that microwave imaging should have correlation with existing
乳房 breast
正在扫描 scanning
模态 modalities
喜欢 like
磁共振成像 mri
它可以帮助医生更好地理解微波图像 which can which may help physicians better understanding microwave images
和 and
P p
因此，我打算在微波断层扫描中使用一种深度学习技术来分割乳房组织，它可以将乳房组织分割成 so i intend to use a deep learning technique for breast tissue segmentation in microwave tomography which could divide
这个 the
乳房 breast
组织 tissue
以组为单位 in groups
基于精确的乳房组织分布 based on the accurate breast tissue distribution
目前，我已经进行了一篇关于利用微波检测乳腺癌的文献综述。 currently i have performed a literature review on breast cancer detection using microwave
成像 imaging
技术 technique
许多 many
研究小组 research groups
呃有很多研究小组呢提出了他们的成像系统 uh with many research groups uh propose their imaging systems
然而， however
他们的系统分辨率不足以作为详细的临床信息。 the resolution of their system is insufficient as detailed clinical information
呃详细信息 uh detailed information
呃还没有出现在他们的研究结果中，所以我打算进行下面的回顾，以回答这个研究问题 uh was not yet appeared in their result so i intend to conduct a following review that can answer the research question
关于 about
如何提高微波层析成像算法的性能 how to improve the performance of the microwave tomography algorithm
在接下来的一到两个月里 in the next one to two months in into one
在这篇综述中，我将把研究阶段扩展到微波层析成像的其他应用，以更好地 in this review i will extend the research phase to other application of microwave tomography to better
了解 understand
其他研究人员已经做过关于算法的研究 other researchers have done about algorithm
优化 optimizing
因此，对于我的研究计划，我将首先对现有的微波层析成像算法进行优化，以提高图像分辨率和计算时间。 so for my research plan first i will optimize the existing microwave tomography algorithm to improve the image resolution and computation time
然后，我打算训练一个卷积神经网络来学习组织分割模型。 and then i intend to train a convolutional neural network to learn a tissue segmentation model
嗯，培训数据的原因是 uh the training data causes of
用我们提出的图像重建算法和地面选择重建的微波图像由精确的乳房组成。 microwave images that are reconstruct by our proposed image reconstruction algorithm and the ground choose consists of accurate breast
组织分布图像 tissue distribution image
它可以在微波成像和现有的分布图像之间建立关联。 it can establish the correlation between microwave imaging and existing distribution images
袋子 bag
但它可以在微波成像和现有的扫描方式(如mri)之间建立联系，并帮助医生更好地了解 but it can establish the correlation between the microwave imaging and existing scanning modalities like mri and help physicians better understanding
这个 the
微波图像 microwave images
下一步，我希望对实验室的微波成像原型进行建模和制作，并用逼真的3d打印乳房进行测试。 and the next i hope to model and fabricate a laboratory microwave imaging prototype and test it with realistic 3d printed breast
不同密度的模体，可以为显微成像提供更逼真的图像场景 phantoms with various densities this can provide a much more realistic images scenarios for micro imaging
和 and
这个 the
这就是参考资料 and that's the reference
谢谢 thank
你 you
用于收听 for listening
好的，S。 okay s
s g s g
这是一种带着 this is this kind of with
这个 the
嗯 yeah
是的，是的 yep
小组的任何意见，我有一些共同的问题，那就是带回 any comments from the panel a question i have some common it is to bring back the
最后的 last
加码加码 plus plus size
好吧 okay
等 wait
稍等片刻 a moment
让我共享我的屏幕 let me share my screen
又一次 again
嗯，嗯 mmhmm
的第一张幻灯片 the first slide of
这 this
手镯 bracelet
好吧 okay
我从 i start from the
最后的 last
就在那里，好的，你说你想做一个实验室原型 point there right okay you said you want to produce a lab prototype
呃硬件原型 uh hardware prototype
你的实验室里有什么样的设备？ and what kind of facility you have in your lab
你是否已经有了一种原型，或者你是从 do you have already have a sort of prototype or you start from
划痕 scratch
嗯，目前我们已经有了一个原型，但它是基于 uh currently we have we already have a prototype but it is based
在……上面 on
另一种图像算法 another image algorithms
哇 wow
你相信硬件原型是软件吗？ do you believe the hardware prototype is a software
依赖于 dependent
或独立的 or independent
嗯，是的，它是软件和硬件的结合，硬件是呃照亮和接收来自乳房的信号 um yes it is a combine of software and hardware the hardware is to uh illuminate and receive the signal from the breast
该软件负责重建以产生乳房的成像 and the software is responsible to reconstruct to produce a imaging of the breast
好的，好的，我听起来是对的，实际上，说实话，我做了很多研究，MRI图像重建 all right okay that sounds to me right actually to be honest right i have done a lot of research mri image reconstruction
根据我的经验，我正在做pet和mr.jones的重建工作，也在用建筑材料做垫子。 and i am doing pet and m r jones reconstruction and also pad using construction so from my experience
在……里面 in
那些 those
二 two
主题领域 topic areas
让硬件设计依赖于软件听起来有点奇怪，因为这不是 it sounds a bit weird to have the hardware design dependent on the software because that would not be a
通常做法，所以这是我的第一个评论，我认为对的，形象重组本身就是具有挑战性的 common practice so that's my first comment i believe right the image restructuring itself is challenging
足够的 enough
如果你可以的话，如果你足够幸运，你就会得到你的计划，一次正确，一次成功。 for a p h p if you can if you are lucky enough you get something just your plan one right and one
考虑到您的计划只有两天，光这一项对p_h_d来说就足够了。 that alone would be more than enough for p_h_d considering your plan is only two days
我可以从2,024行军的时间表上看出来，我不相信你能做得更好，所以你需要缩小范围，然后你才能集中精力 i can see from the time table there for the march of two thousand twenty four i don't believe you can do all of this so better you need to narrow down then you have focus
我想我不太清楚你们有什么设施来建造硬件原型约瑟夫说起来很难 i i would guess i'm not sure about the what's the facility you have building a hardware prototype joseph speaking is difficult
更不用说您想要构建一个依赖于您的重建算法的原型了 and let alone you want to build a prototype that is your reconstruction algorithm dependent
呃 uh
井 well
给 to to
您可能有某种泛型RAP you may you may have some sort of generic type rap
呃 uh
竞争 competition
一件沉重的事 a heavy
好的，你知道你说这里，首先你有线路前面的领带，你会有一个10号发射机接收器，对吧，然后你有一个信号处理单元 right you know you said here you have first you have the front tie from the line you will have a ten transmitter receiver right yeah then you have a signal processing unit
要处理信号接收，然后将其转换为您可以处理的形式，您可以使用您的UM to to um process signal receive then convert them into the form you can you can uh process use your um
体层摄影术和英国，这将是非常复杂的 tomography and britain and that would be very complicated
所以如果你想加速，比如说硬件方面，你想加快补偿，你可以使用更强大的，你知道现在的硬件，这是非常标准的，成本很低 so if you want to speed up say it is hardware side you want to speed up compensation you can use more powerful you know the hardware nowadays that's very standard that's a low cost
你可以很容易地提交GPU，但我不认为这样做对你有好处，因为呃，会有很多这样的工程 you can submit the gpu to that quite easily but i don't believe that would be in your benefit to do that because uh there would be a lot of the sort of engineering
实际工作而不是性格研究是的，好的，所以我会 practical work rather than character research yeah okay so i would
真的 really
建议你只要 suggest you you just
我没有 i'm not
肯定是这样的 sure about
你的 your
通过您计划中的项目，第一个项目和我说，这将是足够困难和具有挑战性的，如果您有任何新的算法，将是足够高尚的psb。 through the item in your plan and first one and i said it would be difficult enough and challenging enough and if you do have any new algorithm that would be noble enough for p s b
好的，其次，我不太确定你的陈述，我可以说你对图像重建有一点了解。 okay secondly i'm i'm not sure about in your kind of presentation i can say you have a very little understanding about image reconstruction
所以你有一个相当薄弱的概念，你知道这里的互动情况吗？ so you have a rather weak idea about what do you you know the interaction here
正确的 right
嗯，它是一个基础，一个人口学，呃，重建是一些共同的东西，一些共同的东西，对吧 um it is a foundation a demography uh reconstruction is some some something common something common right i'm
不 not
好的 sure
关于这台微波炉 about this microwave
呃 uh
你知道，实际上现在大概是15年前的事了，嗯，一位同事，当学生妈妈的时候，然后我们 you know actually now it's something probably fifteen years ago uh uh uh a colleague when was the student mothers then we
有 have
合伙人 a partner
在……里面 in
嗯，伦敦的国王学院，我把它叫到那边，提议使用完全相同的想法 um king's college in london and i called it over there proposed to use the exact same idea
微波 microwave
至 to
泵 pump
地形地貌 the topography
对于乳腺癌的检测对吧，甚至我也试着和他好好的学着讨论一下，因为当时他想要做一个硬件 for breast cancer detection right and even i try to learn to have some discuss with him well because at the time he wants to to build a hardware
对，那不是我的强项 right and that's not my strength
所以那个项目没有占用 so that project didn't take up
然后从容易收回的角度来看 then in terms of the easy retraction
您提到要使用深度学习来提高分辨率 you mentioned you want to use a deep learning to increase the resolution
呃 uh
我不太确定，你知道那里的基本思想是什么吗，你需要有一定的理论基础 i am not sure about you know what is the fundamental idea there you need to have a certain a theoretical
基础 foundation
那里 there
因为深深地 because deep
学习 learning
对，只能从可用的数据中学习 right can only learn from the data available
不理解数据说了什么，我们嵌入了什么数据，然后是什么，但是我们有一个 no understand what been being being being said say from data right what we embedded the data then it but we have a
更好的 better
嗯，数据的分析，嗯，因为你也许可以把它合并到你未来的图像重建中 uh analysis of data um since you might be able to incorporate that into your future image reconstruction
但是，因为您在列表中谈论的是微波断层摄影术，您在该角色中的感觉分辨率如何才能提高分辨率，您需要学习的深度知识如何才能提高呢？ but because you are talking about in the list the microwave tomography your senses resolution in that role but how can you improve the resolution your deep learning you need to learn
从… from
数据如果你没有一个公平分辨率的微波来模拟数据，人们是不可能 data if you do not have a fair resolution micro micro wave to mock of the data it's impossible for people to
从这些数据中学到任何东西 learn anything from that data
所以这实际上是一场很大的辩论，如果你想这样做的话 so this is actually a big debate here right if you want to do
这 this
有一种技术是理论上的 there are sort of technology that are theory
你只要谷歌一下就行了，你知道，嗯，嗯，你知道这是一种什么样的深度 you you you just google do it you know the the uh the uh you know what kind of a deep
学习 learning
医学领域的超分辨率 super resolution in medical
因为就在几周前我透露了一份研发中心的申请 because i'm just a few weeks ago i revealed a r c d p one application
从其他大学的一位同事那里，他们建议使用深度学习的移位分辨率来提高mr的分辨率。 from a from a colleague right in the other universities they propose to use the deep learning the shift resolution to improve the resolution of the m r
我 i
他们所做的就是提议使用高场，嗯，mr what they did was they proposed to use the high field uh m r
我 i
为了产生高分辨率的图像，好的，然后你用这些数据来训练他们 to produce high resolution image okay then you that data to train them
UH删除网络 uh deleting network
然后再对图像进行分类配准，知道图像是来自低分辨率的mri图像。 and then later the the sort of co register know the image is from low resolution mri meaning
从… from
这个 the
低 low
字段 field
磁共振成像 mri
这是现在临床上常用的恢复性t或1.5t如此低分辨率的图像 that's commonly used the clinic nowadays restorative t or one point five t so low resolution image
因此，他们将从高分辨率数据中学到的知识引入到低分辨率图像中，并将它们组合在一起生成 so they bring in the knowledge learned from higher resolution data to the low resolution image they sort of combine them to generate
你知道一种高分辨率的呃图像重音低场扫描仪 you know sort of high resolution uh image accent low field scanner
但这是有高度争议的，对吧，这个想法本身现在是众所周知的，并被用于许多不同的形式 but that is highly debatable right the idea itself now is well known and being used in many different modality
你说的是微观到断层成像，这是现代性说唱的具体类型 you are talking about micro to tomography this is the express specific type of the modernity rap
因为你在这里面临的问题 for the for the the problem you are facing here
是 is
你没有高革命的源泉，好吧，你可以训练 you do not have a source of the high revolution okay for you to train
您的深度学习网络 your deep learning network
所以不同的网络呢你知道创世就是所谓的一个我一个我权利不能创造的 so different network uh you know genesis is the so called a i a i right cannot create
某物 something
它以前从未见过，它只能重复或做一些更快、更精确的事情，就像它以前见过的那样，是的，所以我认为这是你的主要障碍 it has never seen before it can only repeat or do something quicker more precisely like something it has seen before yeah so i think this is the major hurdle you
需要 need
给 to to
至 to
认为有权 to consider right to
了解 understand
如果你想提高微波断层扫描的分辨率，一种可能是标准的超分辨率。 if you want to increase the resolution of the microwave tomography one possibility could be standard super resolution
例如，你可以用no，至高无上，至高无上 for example you may use that no the supreme supreme supreme
至高无上 supreme
一次称为单幅图像分辨率，另一次称为多幅图像分辨率 one time so called a single image to resolution another one is called the multiple image resolution
在这种情况下，我相信您可能需要足球多分辨率图像，因为您可以很容易地 in this case i believe right you might need to have soccer multiple an image of resolution because you can easily
收购 acquire
多个 multiple
图像 images
使用 using
你的 your
拉扎达 lazada
在此图像的末尾，从您的扫描仪获取的图像不能 at the end of this image acquired from your scanner cannot
克服节奏去限制它 overcome the rhythm to limit that
是 is
你提到的是10毫米口径的 as you mentioned is a ten millimeter
如果你有多幅图像，你也许可以做一些超分辨率，但从根本上说，这只是一种 then if you have multiple images you might be able to do some sort of super resolution but fundamentally it is just sort of
从根本上说，这是有限制的。 there is a fundamental limitation
这里 here
因为不，10毫米分辨率实际上意味着你的传感器有带宽限制，它不能 because no the ten millimeter resolution actually means your sensor has a bandwidth limitation it cannot
去 go
带宽比正确带宽更宽，这意味着您使用的是没有超出带宽的信号的感觉，也就是说您知道高分辨率 bandwidth wider than that right so that means you use your sense that don't have the the signal beyond the bandwidth so that means it says you know the high resolution
来自信号的高频分量，但您的传感器不能偏振和任何分辨率 from the high frequency component of signal but your sensor cannot polarize and any resolution
正确的 right
除非你有很高的 unless you have high
宽带信号获取某种方式，例如，在示例MRI中，他们使用高场扫描仪来获取宽带信号 wideband signal acquire some way for example in that example mri right they use a high field scanner to acquire wideband signal
因此， hence
交易网络 to trade the network
但在你的情况下，到目前为止你的计划是 but in your case your plan so far that is
丢失 missing
我的信息是，如果你必须留在你的公司，一种可能是你使用你知道的形象 my message you could be if you have to stay with your company one possibility could be you use the you know the the image
从… from
其他 other
高 high
分辨率传感器 resolution sensors
可耻的意思 scandalous meaning
正确的 right
扫描仪信号 scanner signal
是的，你也许可以增加我的工资。 yes you might be able to increase me
常规 regular
这只是我的建议，所以你可能想要一本，我想你还有很多东西需要阅读 so this is just my suggestion so you may want to have one i think you still need a lot of things you need to still need to read
很多 a lot of
关于产业结构调整的一个大理论，你知道的， a big theory on the you know on the industrial restructuring and
人口学 demography
这是千真万确的，你知道深度学习是一种时尚，每个人都试图用深度学习而不去理解，不，他们充分理解了根本的局限。 that that is true enough you know the deep learning the fashion everyone tries to use deep learning without understand no they they full the understanding of the fundamental limitation
持续的计划不能克服传感器的根本限制，如果你想克服的话这是不可能的。 keep planning cannot overcome the fundamental limitation of your sensor definitely this cannot if you want to overcome
那 that
你知道，嗯，信号或者高果糖信号怎么样？ being that you know uh what about the signal or high fructose signal
从一些 from some
消息来源 sources
嗯 yeah
好的，这是我的评论 all right that's my comments
好的，好的，非常感谢你的评论，我想我从你的评论中学到了很多 okay okay that's a very thank you for your comments and i think i have learned a lot from your comments
第一 first
我想要 i want
至 to
关于硬件原型的说明 explain about the hardware prototype
我想，呃，那仍然是 and think i think uh that's still
这个 the
项目的最后一步是验证算法是否足够好 the last step of the project is to verify the algorithm whether it is good enough
至 to
你在逼真的右边的图像和原型可以非常简单，因为信号 you image in the realistic right and the the prototype can be very simple because the signal
呃信号接收器 uh the signal receiver
我们可以使用呃商用垂直网络分析仪和我们的信号 we can use uh commercial vertical network analyzer and the signal that we
能 can
获取的或输入到计算机中的 acquired of into the computer
和 and
在MATLAB的软件中进行处理，所以我认为建立一个原型可以 processed them in the software in matlab so i think to build a prototype can
BE be
可能是，呃，不是的 can be uh it's not
一个 a
对我来说是首要任务，因为实际上我在制作原型方面有一些经验 top top task for me because actually i have some experience on building a prototype
至于第二步，我想我们可能对我的第二步有一些误解 and for the step two the a i i think we may have some misunderstanding about my step two
因为 because
在这一部分中，我尝试使用深度学习 in this part i try to use deep learning
至 to
为 for
睡觉组织分布分割 rest tissue distribution segmentation
那就是自动拒绝不同组织的边界 and that's to automatically denied the boundary of the different tissue
因为它们可以帮助医生更好地理解微波断层扫描图像，因为这很重要 uh because they may help physician to better understanding the microwave tomographic images because it is important
目前，嗯，放射医师知道如何给乳腺癌 currently uh radio radiologist know how to give breast cancer
评估 evaluate
应用m值评价乳腺癌的临床价值 breast cancer evaluation by using m
R r
我 i
实际的声音或呃x射线乳房X光检查，但他们不知道怎么做 actual sound or uh x ray mammography but they don't know how to do it with
什么时候 when
面向微波图像 facing the microwave images
所以我想，嗯，训练这个模型，如果我们把微波成像放入这个模型， so i want to uh train this model and if when we put the microwave imaging into the model and it
将要 will
UH反馈和成像 uh feedback and imaging with
这个 the
使用 with
这个 the
乳腺组织在微波图像中的分布 the distribution of the breast tissue in microwave microwave images
是的，我不想用，呃，我现在不想用人工智能技术来提高分辨率，但我认为这是个好主意 and yes i don't want to use uh i currently i don't want to use ai technique to improve the resolution but i think it is a good idea
在……里面 in
未来 the future
至 to
呃结合多模态图像来改进当前的呃微波图像 uh combine the multiple modalities images to improve the current uh microwave images
有一件事我想，我想，嗯，非常感谢你的人参，非常有用的评论，关于金津实际上问的那个问题，因为我们用了你在开始时提到的，你是从算法开始的， one thing to be at i think i think uh thank you very much for the ginseng very useful comment on that one jinjin actually asking because we used you mentioned at the beginning that you started with the algorithm the
人口学 demography
嘿，我刚找到硬件，这里有一个非常呃重要的问题，那就是你的高精度数据是从哪里来的 and hey i just found the hardware and here is the point of a very uh important issue here which is where is your high precision data came from
我想在我们之前的讨论中，你和我讨论过，你在谈论模式，所以你也应该提到那个，我想你是来拜访我和靳晋的 i think in our previous discussion and you discuss with me and you're talking about the model so you should mention that one as well i think you visit to me and jin jin jin jin jin jin jin jin jin jin
这是一个不同的模型，但你没有在这里展示它，这就是你需要提到的那个模型，你的数据从哪里来的，一开始你的数据是从哪里来的，高分辨率的数据 it's a different model but you didn't present it here that's how you that you need to mention that one as well where where is your data came from at the beginning the high resolution data
但是对于硬件，你可能也需要加起来，因为你在公司工作，直接负责设计这个 but for the hardware maybe you need to add up as well because you work in the company directly dealing with designing this
半途而废 halfway
这里有几个原型，可能不是你放在这里的，也许你为你的COC准备了一个，所以公司已经开发了几种中途的 so there's a few prototype probably you didn't put it here maybe you prepare that one for your c o c let on so there's a few type of the halfway have been developed in the company
而你作为一名工程师，你在你的psc中，你想要以艰难的方式提高。 and you are as a engineer you in your p s c you want to improve the hard way
所以根据你和公司的其他主管的监督，那里也有一个设施，而且从那时起，当你来到这里时， so based on your supervision with the other supervisor from the company as well so there's a facility there as well and since and then when you come here so
你 you
能 can
来 come
通过 by
和 and
有一个想法，就是用知识和技术来改进硬件 there's a idea the knowledge and technology to improve the hardware
在那之后，软件也在那里，将它们结合在一起，因为这是基于一种特定的技术，所以它不仅仅是MR and after that with with the software there as well to to combine it together and because this is on a particular technology so it's not just mr
我很受欢迎。 i m o is very welcome
但 but
这个还没有上市，所以你必须，嗯，在一项研究中，我们尝试使用微波成像 this hasn't been in the market yet so you have to uh on a research we try to use a microwave of imaging
对于这个乳腺癌来说，它就像一个整体，所以你可能需要 for the purpose of this breast cancer so it's like a one thing all combined together so probably you need to
解释一下 explain
更详细地说 it in more detail
但是我认为你没有提供一个非常有用的评论，你没有提到数据是从哪里来的 but i think you didn't provide a very useful comment you didn't mention about the data where the data came from the
开始 beginning
S f x s f x
但我以为这只是个好奇 but i thought it was just a curiosity
微波能穿透到乳房的深度有多深？ how deep this microwave can penetrate into the breast
阿 ah
限制 limitation
关于 about
那 that
是的，呃，当频率变高，它不能穿透时，这是一种权衡，如果 yes uh the when the frequency go high and it cannot penetrate so this is a trade off if
我们 we
频率越高，分辨率就越高，但分辨率越高，穿透深度就越低，所以我通常用 the frequency go higher the resolution can go higher but the penal the penetration depth can be lower so i usually we use
嗯，一个。 uh one
千兆赫兹到 gigahertz to
耐克 nike
是的，我认为这是另一个典型的无障碍，因为现在大约是15年前的事了 yeah i think that that is another typical no hurdle right because now is something about fifteen years ago
正确的 right
是的，所谓的胡萝卜赫兹，嗯，它变得非常流行，世界各地的人都想做 yep the so called carrot hertz uh and it became very popular and people in around the world trying to do
那 that
但这里有一个问题，如果你想增加，那么这不是在高分辨率的两难境地，你需要更高的频率，对，那么频率越高， but there is an issue there so if you want to increase the then that's not dilemma for higher resolution in the high you need a higher frequency yeah right then the higher the frequency is that the the the the the the
浅层 shallow
恐慌学费是对的，对的，核磁共振是对的，超声波是对的，嗯，核磁共振不是 is panic tuition yeah yeah that's right that's right for mri for ultrasound right uh putting for mri that is not a
问题 problem
但是超声波可以看到这个问题 but the ultrasound can see with the issue uh
但 but
呃，你知道，这就是你看不到高分辨率的原因，所以这仍然是，呃，高度的东西 uh you know that that that's the reason you don't see the high resolution so this is something still uh highly
有争议的 debatable
嗯 yeah
静止的 still
高度 highly
有争议的 debatable
所以现在，呃，我们知道最高频率可能 and so for now and that's uh we know that the highest frequency could
向上 up
至 to
九十名警卫 ninety guards
当我们往高一点的时候，穿透深度不能呃不能 when we go higher the penetration depth could uh could not
足够的 enough
这是微波成像的一个缺点，但我们仍然可以从微波中提取更多信息 so that's that's a that's really a drawback about microwave imaging but we can still extract more information from the microwave
分散的 scattered
微波信号 microwave signals
好的，好的 alright
嗯 yeah
谢谢 thanks
谢谢 thank
你 you
谢谢 thank
你 you
我们可以帮你，是的，当然可以，我想深圳教授有一个非常有用的建议，我也认为非常有用。 and we can help you with that yeah yeah sure yes i think professor shenzhen has a very useful suggestion also i think very
对你的研究主题很重要 important to your research topic
那么我啊，我的意思是我不在这个特定的领域，所以我可能会有一些一般性的问题，但我想从一个有背景的问题开始，所以你愿意简短地 so me ah i mean i'm not in this particular field so i probably will have some general questions but i want to start with my question with a with a background so g would you like to briefly
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它向我们展示了你的学术背景 it shows us a little bit about your academic background
配件 accessories
比如你从哪里来，你以前学的是什么，现在的状态是什么，嗯，你，你工作，我听到了精致的提法 like where where are you from what was your previous study and what the current state is like uh you you working i heard the refined mention you are
目前正在工作 currently working
正确的 right
是啊 ya
呀呀呀 ya ya
好吧 okay
所以 so
我毕业，嗯，所以在2,019，我毕业于，嗯，技术大学，我的专业是 i graduate uh so in two thousand and nineteen i graduated from uh from the university of technology and my major is
在……里面 in
在LIKE中 in like
一个 a
我的专业是环境与环境，嗯 my major is in environmental and environmental uh
监控 monitoring
右翼 the right
环境 environment
所以我们通常会用很多传感器来这个监控 so that we usually use many sensors to uh monitor
这个 the
至 to
监视器 monitor
环境问题 the environment
嗯，就是我们所说的情况或牵连，一个数据或类似的东西，现在我在一家医疗机构工作 um is what we call the condition or involvement a data or something like that and now i work in a medical
体检人员 a medical
啊公司 ah company
方阳博士，嗯，是的，我们正在研究微波成像，嗯，电流 by dr fangyang uh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah we are working on the microwave imaging uh the current
过去我们关注的是基于雷达的微波，这可能是微波领域的一个热点。 in the past we are focused on the radar based microwave that could be that is a hot area in microwave
近几年来 recent years
但是它有一些缺点，所以我们想回去做断层扫描，看看能不能得到更多 but it has some drawbacks so we want to go back to tomography to investigate whether we can get more
改进 improved
在……里面 in
这些地区 these areas
嗯，嗯 hmm
拓扑啊，断层扫描，你是说一种商品，对不起，是的，是的，这两种生物的区别是什么？ topology ah tomography you mean a commodity sorry yeah yeah ah so the difference between those two organisms
这个 the
嗯，虽然对于数据库呢，它更像是一种检测，它检测到方言的高对比度 uh though for database uh it is more like a detection it detect the high contrast of the dialectic
忍者 ninja
在媒体中，在媒体中 in the in the medium
对于体层摄影术来说，它就像是重建生物特性的最佳剖面。 and for tomography it is like a reconstruction the profile of the best profile of the biological properties in the
最好的 best
所以这是在呃数据处理方面的不同，而不是在传感器或 so it's a difference in in uh data processing not in the sensor or
这个 the
好的，是的，是的，因为你真的会有所谓的合成应用雷达 okay yeah yeah because you really actually will have the so called synthetic app radar
借口雷达本质上是 excuse radar is is essentially the
相同的 same
是的，呃，我们是我们的原型，我们的最后一个原型，是的，我们可以建立一个基于数据库的3D，呃，微波成像 yes yes yes uh we the the our prototype our last prototype yes we can build a 3d uh microwave imaging based on database
但是，是的，但是在那种情况下，你仍然可以使用，呃，断层扫描 but yeah but from that kind of you can still use the uh tomography
扬声器，因为你看到我们用我们做，我们有，我们有，不，我们有所谓的，你知道，嗯，嗯，我们有这样的范围 the speaker because you saw we use we do that we have the we have the no we have the so called you know the um uh range that we have so
被叫 called
你有30块钱，还可以做3D接收 you have thirty you can still do 3d reception
是的，这是可能的，但这会使处理的计算时间非常长。 yes it is possible but it will make the processing the computation time very very long
因为 because
当我们使用断层扫描时，我们实际上希望使用非常简单的天线 when we use a tomography we actually want to use a very simple antennas
因为在 because in
识字 literate
在文学上，层析成像的算法 in the literary the algorithm for tomography
是迭代的 is iteratively
所以我们必须对天线进行建模，呃，每隔一次 so we have to model the antenna uh every
时间 time
在……里面 in
有文化的人 the literate
所以我们想用一个简单的天线，可以用一个公式来代替，而不是用一个复杂的公式 so we want to use uh a simple antenna that can be replaced by a single formula and not a complex formula that way
我们在图像重建方面节省了很多时间，所以您是否使用 we have saved a lot of time in the image reconstruction so do you use the
这个 the
所谓的光束 so-called beam
转向 steering
呃c uh c
E e
O波传输 o wave transmission
一个 a
再说一次，好吗 pardon
因为这项名为“你知道，治愈海浪”的技术的震撼，你使用的是单一的传感器，但你却在驾驶。 because the shock of the technology called you know the waves curing you use a single sensor right but you you steer
这个 the
扫描区域波 waves of scanned area
垂直的，水平的，呃，即使你有估计，你也有三维的权利，所以我们为什么要在IS的超声波中使用这种技术，这就是为什么我们在IS中使用超声波的原因 vertically the horizontally uh even you have estimates you have three d right so that that sort of technique why do we use in the ultrasound in is is
在这个 in uh
噢 oh
实际上 actually
所以 so
合成的 synthetic
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一个 a
不是必须的，你需要花时间找到它，但是你 not not necessary you need to make time to locate it but you
能 can
以电子方式 electronically
安全 secure
这个 the
光束 beams
因为你说过电磁波你可以驾驭电波 because you said the electromagnetic waves you can steer the waves
好的，你偷了海浪，嗯，我们还没有 okay you steal the waves um we haven't
已尝试 tried
但是我可以说，实际上可以很简单，因为在任何一种昆虫的绝对雷达中，实际上是因为下一个问题可以很简单，就像 but the way i can say that you can actually it can be quite simple because in either insect absolute radar right it's actually because the next question can be as simple as just
简单地说 simply
A两个D的通货膨胀率是非常高的。 a two d of the inflation for very
快地 fast
不是的 no
好的，因为正确使用雷达原理采集的数据实质上是物体的两维或三维自由变换，所以您可以尝试图像。 okay because the data acquired right using the radar principle data acquired essentially is two d or three d free transform of the object you try the image
mm mm
那么娱乐可以非常非常的 then recreation can be very very
快地 fast
好吧 okay
那么目前呢天线是我们行程的一个 so currently uh the antennae are the for our itinerary is a
合成的 synthetic
是的，是的，你可以使用实物戒指，在中国你也可以使用单人戒指，但使用电子豆，但现在比赛并不贵，我想 yeah yeah you can use a physically use a ring you can use also single in china but use the electronic beans but now a race not expensive i thought
时下 nowadays
嗯，我想你知道这是一种低功率，我读到的是一种 um i think you know this is a low power i read is a
便宜 cheap
噢 oh
好的，我，我待会再找，我开始为内部的事情道歉 okay i i will search it later and i begun so sorry for the internal
是的，实际上我想知道你所知道的应用领域，我知道我几乎已经具备了全部的知识。 yeah actually i want to know the application area you know and i know i have almost the knowledge in all
方方面面 aspect of
这 this
更全面的解决方案，而不是单一的您知道，就像您让硬件和软件处理一个包的每个原因解决方案一样 more comprehensive solution rather than single you know just like every reason solution you have hardware and software processing a a package
一些解决方案，是的，我想可能会快些，因为在主管结束时，他并不真正了解这些知识，因为X光显示，这是他的一支队伍 some solutions yeah yeah i think maybe quick because at the end of supervisor didn't really know the knowledge because the x ray this is a contingent of his
P h d p h d
开发天线阵列，使其不仅仅是一个单一的传感器，看起来像是专门针对乳腺癌的天线阵列 developing antenna array so it's not just one single sensor is antenna array like looks like a particular for the breast cancer
是的，所以它看起来像一个可以形成乳房形状的阵列，然后你可以把它放在一个手镯里，做扫描仪，然后他确实赚了钱，然后再往下成为一家公司 yeah so it's look like a array that can be shaped like a breast and then after that you can put it in a bracelet and do the scanner and after that he did profit that further down become a company
至 to
到更像一封信，也许是在非洲的审判 to to being further like a letter maybe in africa trial
但我认为这些评论很有用，也许我们可以提出来和汾阳谈谈信号，我想他也是从一首单曲开始的，并注意到了 but i think that the comments were useful maybe we can bring it up and talk with fenyang talk about the signal i think he started with a single as well and noticed in
他的 his
在那之后呢，嗯，随着雨的好转，背后应该有一个原因 and after that uh improved with the rain there should be a reason behind
好的，你很好，谢谢你的那种有趣的打断，这对研究非常有用，因为 okay you are okay thanks for that sort of how fun interruptions that is very useful for the research as
井 well
十八 eighteen
好的，我会继续的，所以，嗯，当我第一次拿到报告的时候，我看着潮汐，所以在我听起来，这就像是一个行业，项目 okay i will continue so um yeah when i when i first got the report so i look at the the tidal so it sounds to me like it's it's like an industry where the project
因为您还多次提到这个原型，所以我觉得您的PDD的重点将是设计这种硬件 because you mentioned also in a number of several times about this prototype so that makes me a feeling that your focus for your pdd will be designing this kind of hardware
设计这样的东西，所以我的重点是我的第一人称，可能与我想的头衔有关，所以可能会试着给你这样的印象，那就是OK博士是 design something like that so my point is my first person probably related to the titles i think about it so maybe try to give you the impression that ok phd is
喜欢 like
教授，我还提到，bft研究应该有一些创新成分，所以考虑一下，让它看起来像你知道的那样。 professor i also mentioned that there should be some innovation components for b f t studies so think about it and make it you know it looks like you know
好吧 okay
从标题我知道你在做什么，你知道你的个人发展计划和你的，啊，你的研究贡献是可以的，一些关于那个的，好的，关于这个的另一件事是你把它放在时间线上。 from the title i know what you are doing you know from your p d d and what your ah your research contribution will be okay something about that okay so the other thing about this is the timeline you put it
那里 there
你可以自己做饭 you can cook your time
那里 there
所以你基本上是从这个游行开始的，你有游行，所以你期待它，我的意思是，你可以这样做10亿三年， so you basically started from this march right you have march so and you expect it to i mean you can do this for a billion three years is
你就是这么玩的 that how you play
好的，那么再想一次，考虑一下这个贡献，就像你从幂理论中知道的理论一样，另一件事是，如果你总是说好的，这个原型设计只是为了验证实验 yeah okay yeah yeah so so again so think about the um contribution and like you know about the theory from the theory of power the other thing is if you always said okay this prototype design is only for the validation for the experiment
疯狂地试着平衡它们，你知道，因为这不是孩子学习的重点，你可能需要调整标准 insane and try to balance them you know because that's not the focus of the kid studies you probably need to adjust the standard
作为 as
井 well
因为 because
从… from
你的 your
啊，从你把它放在那里的时候，我可以看到矩阵的贡献将是你已经在那里提到的几个收购，所以这意味着从我的角度来看，我的意思是你可以成为一个有理论部分的数学家 ah from the time when you put it there i can see the the matrix contribution will be the acquisitions you already mentioned several acquisition there so which means from my point of view i mean you can be a mathematician with the theoretical part
是的，特别是当你把它放在那里的时候，有1，2，3，4，是的，你预计会发表4名球员，而且对于这一次的个人论文，我想你放了1名 yeah and this is especially when you put it there is that one two three four yeah you expected to publish four players and also for this time of this individual papers i think you put one
两个月，所以这也是你需要重新考虑的事情，因为我们通常是，我的意思是，即使对我们来说，我们也不能在两个月内写好论文，好的，那么关于50年代的另一件事，那就是，啊，你提到会是，嗯， for two months so that's also something you need to rethink because we're normally i mean even for for for us we can't write the paper in two months okay yeah so another thing about the fifties so it is ah you you mentioned that it will be um
提交恰好33%的年份，这就是你需要阅读的东西，你认为，好的，时间表是可以的，所以总结一下，我的观点是我的观点，因为我不在 submit with the exactly three three percent of the years you this this is what is something you need to read with you think okay the timeline for this is okay yes so the summary so my point is for my point of view because i'm not in
这 this
特定字段 particular field
所以 so
啊，如果你谈到要拿到这份研究报告，那么很可能下一次他们在报告中，你可能需要证明，好的，好的，你对这份报告提出的，呃，可怕的贡献是什么？ ah if you talk about getting this research so probably next time for them for c o c in the report you probably need to demonstrate okay what is the uh terrible contribution you propose to you know for this p i g
一个话题 a topic
那么下一件事就是大纲是什么，你知道现有研究的差距，特别是从三十二个角度来看 so the next thing is what the outline the you know the gaps of the existing research especially from the thirty two point of view
你的动机是什么？是的，那么什么是贡献，像这样的东西，所以对我们来说是有好处的，我的意思是 and what's your motivation yeah then what is contribution something like that so that would be good for for our i mean
对于HDR，你知道，即使是剪刀也不报告 for for for the hdr you know report no even for the scissors
好吧 okay
是的，我嘲笑这种事情，因为我已经看到了这个时间表，所以你把研究生证书放在那里，他 and yeah my laughing about this kind of thing because i already see this timeline so you put the graduate certificate there he
说 said
你可以学习 you can study
这 this
八月 august
而且它是一个 and it is a
它说它将在8月2日开始，好的，你需要阅读它才能完成这种证书的事情吗，因为你说你已经写了，实际上你是在行业里写的，发明了离岸p和d程序 it said that it will be start in august second okay do you need to read it to complete this kind of certificate thing because you said you already you actually you wrote in the industry invented offshore p and d program
正确的 right
是的，呃，是的，我必须这么做，因为它 yes uh yes i have to because it
是 is
它就像一个 it is like a
呃 uh
什么 what
是 is
它 it
工科学生的必修课是的，我不确定，因为我梦想我也会有一个有影响力的学生参加离岸肾脏项目，但这不是一个发明的行业，但他实际上做到了 compulsory compulsory for engineering students yeah i'm not sure because i have dreams that i will also have a student with the influence offshore kidney program but it's not an industry invented but he actually did
不 not
我需要完成这份证书中的任何一个，但实际上那只是一个次要的时刻，是的，我知道你需要检查这个，好的，如果你能发一封电子邮件给应聘者复核的话，好的 need to complete any of this certificate but actually that's that's a minor moment yeah i know you need to check this okay okay okay all right if you can send an email to h d a candidate to double check
好的，可以提一下。 okay that can be mentioned
这里 here
好的，所以这就是我的意思，好的，谢谢 right so that's what i mean yeah thank you talk to
保罗 paul
那么你的学生怎么能不这样做呢？ so how can your student not do
那 that
这并不意味着不，今天是个好日子 this doesn't mean to no it's a good day
他甚至没有提交他的a、b、c、c、c和中部乡村评估报告。 and he even did not to commit his a b c o c c o c and mid country review
是的，但就像相反的，是的，但是如果你从那里看到，你知道注册被称为a yeah but like opposite yeah but if you see from there you know the enrolment is called a
博士学位 phd
使用 with
最好的证书 the greatest certificate
所以我要给你们看那句话造成的损害，当他没有办法这么做的时候，那么你 so i'm going to show you for the damage that sentence when he had no way to do this then you
别 don't
需要 need
去做 to do
这 this
所以，也许GSM提到了，也许只是给HDR候选人发了电子邮件，问问他们你是否必须这样做，如果你不需要这样做，也许你不需要这样做 so maybe gsm mentioned maybe just emails to hdr candidate just ask them whether you have to do it or not if you don't have to do it maybe you don't need to do
它 it
退款我认为你还需要在我们提到的振荡器中核对一封信，如果30岁的毕业生要求我们稍后也在录取通知中提到的话，那么退款就是必须的，还有他们将提到的招生指南是 the refund i think you need to check off a letter as well in the oscillator that we mentioned that it was required if graduate thirty will require that we mentioned in the offer later as well and also the enrolment the guide line they will mention is
是的，证书在所有权登记中，我在那里也看到了，因为登记是 yeah yeah yeah yeah the certificate is in the enrolment in the ownership i saw that one as well there because the enrolment is a
持有气象证书博士学位 phd with that weather certificate
嗯 yeah
为了做到这一点，我听到有人告诉我，你不能让强制性的，但我不确定如果你不在中国，我想这与海外的协议有关 and to do that and i heard someone tell me that you can't let compulsory but i'm not sure if you are not in china i think this has something to do with agreement with overseas
是的，我想这是你的第一个案例，据我所知，例如我们与上海大学的合作，你知道研究中心成立了 yeah i think it is your first case right to my knowledge for example the the our partnership with shanghai university you know that the research center set up
通过 by
齐默涵 qi mohan
正确的 right
所以实际上我们我和孩子们一起去的，所以协议上没有这样的要求 so actually we i went with children together so the on the agreement there was no such requirement
是啊，是啊，是啊 yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
是啊，是啊，是啊 yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
嗯 yeah
是啊，是啊，是啊 yeah yeah yeah
是啊，是啊，是啊 yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
是啊，是啊，是啊 yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
嗯 yeah
但不排除这一点，那么你必须这么做，这个问题是的，尤其是我们给了它一个秘密的情况，所以当证书是强制性的时候，那么你将如何管理，你知道，我认为我们必须在一年内做到这一点，我想我们必须在一年内做到这一点， but not exclude that then you have to do it the problem yeah especially we are giving this a covert situation so when the certificate is a compulsory so how are you going to manage to you know i think we have to do in one year and
第一 first
正确的年份 year right
两个，对，所以是 two yeah so it's
真的 really
在我的情况下，我有一个学生，就在他写的时候，他写的时候，人力资源办公室只写了他前两个单元的时间表。 in my case i have a student right when he he wrote when he wrote then the h_d_r office just the timetable of his first two unit
这不是没有商量余地的 it's not non-negotiable
即使你不能改变学期的时间 the time even though you can't change the semester
只是 just
对我来说，它也是两个核心单元 and for me it was also two core units
是的，是的 yep
嗯 yeah
好吧 okay
所以 so
那是 that's
现在我想我们是 now i think we are
好的 good
是的，只是为了我自己，我不是 yeah just for myself i'm not
好的 good
是啊，希望能让我们看看，我们可以提供更多信息的更有洞察力的评论 yeah so hopefully maybe let on just see we can provide more insight review of more information
这是一个非常有趣的项目 this is a very interesting project
好的，我想就这样了，我会提供这一次的录音。 okay i think that's it i'll provide a recording this one
也许，嗯，你能给我寄来最新的演示文稿站点吗，类似的东西，我 maybe uh do you can you send me the latest presentation site something like that that i
能 can
提供它 provide it
到济红去 to jihong
好的，谢谢大家，大家都好，谢谢 okay thank you everyone all right thank
你 you