1 00:00:10,532 --> 00:00:14,362 Is it a group based on black empowerment or the exploitation 2 00:00:14,405 --> 00:00:15,667 of children? 3 00:00:15,711 --> 00:00:18,018 A&E investigates the United Nation of Islam. 4 00:00:21,064 --> 00:00:25,199 My parents, they wanted the best for they children. 5 00:00:25,242 --> 00:00:28,115 They were naive. 6 00:00:28,158 --> 00:00:30,073 They just really put their trust them 7 00:00:30,117 --> 00:00:32,597 to something that they thought was a religion, which 8 00:00:32,641 --> 00:00:33,816 turned out to be a monster. 9 00:00:33,859 --> 00:00:35,470 Do you have any idea how many kids 10 00:00:35,513 --> 00:00:37,211 were trafficked by this group? 11 00:00:37,254 --> 00:00:40,388 [music playing] 12 00:00:40,431 --> 00:00:42,390 ELIJAH MUHAMMAD: Their primary activity 13 00:00:42,433 --> 00:00:46,872 is structured around the labor of young children. 14 00:00:46,916 --> 00:00:47,917 It was slavery. 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,571 That's exactly what it was. 16 00:00:49,614 --> 00:00:51,181 How could you send me off, dad? 17 00:00:51,225 --> 00:00:53,531 As an eight-year-old, it's not like I can protect myself. 18 00:00:53,575 --> 00:00:56,752 We've never really had the opportunity to come forward 19 00:00:56,795 --> 00:00:59,015 to bring every single person that's 20 00:00:59,059 --> 00:01:01,800 responsible for these children being abused to justice. 21 00:01:01,844 --> 00:01:05,717 [music playing] 22 00:01:33,789 --> 00:01:37,445 ELIJAH MUHAMMAD: I was born in Cincinnati, Ohio. 23 00:01:37,488 --> 00:01:42,885 Growing up, it was me, my parents, and my two siblings. 24 00:01:42,928 --> 00:01:46,758 Carl, he's the oldest, and then Mary. 25 00:01:46,802 --> 00:01:49,370 Mary is the baby girl. 26 00:01:49,413 --> 00:01:51,502 My parents, they wanted their children 27 00:01:51,546 --> 00:01:54,418 to be around the African-American mind 28 00:01:54,462 --> 00:01:56,159 set of entrepreneurs. 29 00:01:56,203 --> 00:01:57,943 They were in the Nation of Islam. 30 00:01:57,987 --> 00:02:00,642 The Nation of Islam didn't work out for them. 31 00:02:00,685 --> 00:02:04,124 So when they Royall Jenkins and the United Nation of Islam, 32 00:02:04,167 --> 00:02:05,777 that's what they went for. 33 00:02:05,821 --> 00:02:07,257 STEPHEN FINLEY: For Royall Jenkins, 34 00:02:07,301 --> 00:02:09,433 Louis Farrakhan's movement of the Nation of Islam 35 00:02:09,477 --> 00:02:10,652 was a failure. 36 00:02:10,695 --> 00:02:12,262 African-Americans in his estimation, 37 00:02:12,306 --> 00:02:15,222 have not gotten their fair share of the American Pie. 38 00:02:15,265 --> 00:02:18,616 That is, a community and land of their own. 39 00:02:18,660 --> 00:02:21,706 He sees himself as a viable alternative who can bring 40 00:02:21,750 --> 00:02:23,752 these realities into being. 41 00:02:23,795 --> 00:02:28,409 So Royall Jenkins started the United Nation of Islam. 42 00:02:28,452 --> 00:02:29,714 I know we've talked about this before, 43 00:02:29,758 --> 00:02:30,933 but we shouldn't confuse this group 44 00:02:30,976 --> 00:02:32,674 with the controversial Nation of Islam. 45 00:02:32,717 --> 00:02:33,675 Right? 46 00:02:33,718 --> 00:02:34,980 That would be correct, John. 47 00:02:35,024 --> 00:02:36,939 The United Nation of Islam has a well 48 00:02:36,982 --> 00:02:40,856 documented track record of reviving blighted areas 49 00:02:40,899 --> 00:02:42,031 and restoring hope. 50 00:02:42,074 --> 00:02:44,773 [music playing] 51 00:02:49,212 --> 00:02:50,953 ELIJAH MUHAMMAD: Royall preached that he would 52 00:02:50,996 --> 00:02:55,740 be the one to help minorities rise up from oppression 53 00:02:55,784 --> 00:02:56,959 and we believe him. 54 00:02:57,002 --> 00:03:00,310 We On this planet back. 55 00:03:00,354 --> 00:03:02,399 Whether any white people, black people, or any people 56 00:03:02,443 --> 00:03:05,576 come at all, we've got to get this planet back. 57 00:03:05,620 --> 00:03:07,187 And it's already started back. 58 00:03:07,230 --> 00:03:10,059 We've already started it back on its journey. 59 00:03:10,102 --> 00:03:13,149 I guess the main thing that was interesting to my parents 60 00:03:13,193 --> 00:03:15,891 was the fact that in a low income area 61 00:03:15,934 --> 00:03:18,110 they produce businesses. 62 00:03:18,154 --> 00:03:21,592 And there was young African-American people 63 00:03:21,636 --> 00:03:24,073 who are doing something different besides getting 64 00:03:24,116 --> 00:03:25,466 in trouble. 65 00:03:25,509 --> 00:03:27,207 It was the opportunity for them to do something 66 00:03:27,250 --> 00:03:30,340 positive with their lives. 67 00:03:30,384 --> 00:03:33,213 So my parents started to participate 68 00:03:33,256 --> 00:03:36,781 and my dad actually became the first minister of the study 69 00:03:36,825 --> 00:03:38,609 class in Cincinnati. 70 00:03:38,653 --> 00:03:42,570 Me and my two siblings attended the Academy, 71 00:03:42,613 --> 00:03:45,573 which is the local school for the organization. 72 00:03:45,616 --> 00:03:49,925 The first thing they taught us was that Royall Allah in person 73 00:03:49,968 --> 00:03:54,408 is the creator of everything. 74 00:03:54,451 --> 00:03:55,278 He is god. 75 00:03:55,322 --> 00:03:58,063 [music playing] 76 00:04:05,375 --> 00:04:07,943 Ryan Jenkins preached that he had 77 00:04:07,986 --> 00:04:13,775 been taken on a tour around the universe by scientists. 78 00:04:13,818 --> 00:04:15,124 They gave me a little knowledge 79 00:04:15,167 --> 00:04:19,302 of everything in the universe and even 80 00:04:19,346 --> 00:04:23,437 taking me into the sun. 81 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:24,655 Most people think, you know, they 82 00:04:24,699 --> 00:04:25,787 made a joke of that and everything, 83 00:04:25,830 --> 00:04:27,745 but it literally took place. 84 00:04:27,789 --> 00:04:30,182 [music playing] 85 00:04:37,755 --> 00:04:39,279 STEPHEN FINLEY: The United Nation of Islam, 86 00:04:39,322 --> 00:04:43,674 they mythologize a sort of a history of black people 87 00:04:43,718 --> 00:04:46,068 that did not originate with slavery, 88 00:04:46,111 --> 00:04:49,245 but has a prehistory on other planets. 89 00:04:49,289 --> 00:04:52,292 So I think Royall's experience that he claims 90 00:04:52,335 --> 00:04:58,254 with the angel scientists cast him as Allah on this earth, 91 00:04:58,298 --> 00:05:01,692 and it gives him a certain religious authority. 92 00:05:01,736 --> 00:05:05,217 Elijah Muhammad, you were a member as a child 93 00:05:05,261 --> 00:05:07,524 of the United Nation of Islam. 94 00:05:07,568 --> 00:05:09,831 Why Royall Jenkins? 95 00:05:09,874 --> 00:05:11,746 Why did people follow him? 96 00:05:11,789 --> 00:05:15,750 When a person comes from the same background 97 00:05:15,793 --> 00:05:19,275 as their following, the people tend to relate to him. 98 00:05:19,319 --> 00:05:20,145 Sure. 99 00:05:20,189 --> 00:05:21,364 You're like me. 100 00:05:21,408 --> 00:05:22,583 Yeah. 101 00:05:22,626 --> 00:05:23,497 When you have a person that say, well, 102 00:05:23,540 --> 00:05:25,150 here's a person in the cold. 103 00:05:25,194 --> 00:05:27,501 I'm willing to take my coat off and give it to him, 104 00:05:27,544 --> 00:05:31,113 and he does it, everyone that's used to being more selfish, 105 00:05:31,156 --> 00:05:34,029 so to speak, look at him and say, wow. 106 00:05:34,072 --> 00:05:35,335 Absolutely. 107 00:05:35,378 --> 00:05:38,816 These are things that make a person say, 108 00:05:38,860 --> 00:05:42,037 I'm going to give my last dime to see that this 109 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,778 goes as far as it can. 110 00:05:43,821 --> 00:05:45,388 It's clear to see why it might appeal 111 00:05:45,432 --> 00:05:47,259 to some people who have been treated 112 00:05:47,303 --> 00:05:48,478 as the bottom of the culture. 113 00:05:48,522 --> 00:05:50,524 People who have very few opportunities 114 00:05:50,567 --> 00:05:53,831 whose life possibilities seem fixed and limited. 115 00:05:53,875 --> 00:05:55,267 And here comes this organization that 116 00:05:55,311 --> 00:05:56,747 says you can be more than that. 117 00:05:56,791 --> 00:05:58,053 In fact, you are more than that. 118 00:05:58,096 --> 00:05:59,054 You're gods. 119 00:05:59,097 --> 00:06:01,143 Well, let's be honest here. 120 00:06:01,186 --> 00:06:03,972 Royall Jenkins and the United Nation of Islam 121 00:06:04,015 --> 00:06:06,670 came into being at a time when there 122 00:06:06,714 --> 00:06:09,151 wasn't a lot of other people willing to invest 123 00:06:09,194 --> 00:06:10,326 in these communities. STEPHEN FINLEY: Sure. 124 00:06:10,370 --> 00:06:11,762 Correct. 125 00:06:11,806 --> 00:06:15,462 These were the ignored, neglected neighborhoods 126 00:06:15,505 --> 00:06:16,767 that nobody wanted to go near. 127 00:06:16,811 --> 00:06:18,378 ELIJAH MUHAMMAD: Absolutely. 128 00:06:18,421 --> 00:06:20,510 And here was somebody saying, uh-uh, I believe in you. 129 00:06:20,554 --> 00:06:22,077 Here's some money. 130 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,295 You can do better. 131 00:06:23,339 --> 00:06:24,296 We can do better. - That's right. 132 00:06:24,340 --> 00:06:25,428 It's powerful. 133 00:06:25,472 --> 00:06:26,777 Right? 134 00:06:26,821 --> 00:06:28,431 WOMAN: The United Nation of Islam 135 00:06:28,475 --> 00:06:32,479 is trying to bring hope back by doing right on Quindera. 136 00:06:32,522 --> 00:06:34,785 Not to be confused with Farrakhan's group, 137 00:06:34,829 --> 00:06:38,659 the United Nation is about making a positive change. 138 00:06:38,702 --> 00:06:42,358 When I was 12 years old, my parents received a phone 139 00:06:42,402 --> 00:06:45,056 call from Royall's first wife. 140 00:06:45,100 --> 00:06:47,276 We were informed that my brother and I were ready to take 141 00:06:47,319 --> 00:06:49,234 our next step into manhood. 142 00:06:49,278 --> 00:06:52,412 And what that meant was, we were to go to the Community 143 00:06:52,455 --> 00:06:54,979 of the United Nation of Islam. 144 00:06:55,023 --> 00:06:57,547 The Community is known as heaven. 145 00:06:57,591 --> 00:06:59,767 Now, if you got a bunch of negative things happening 146 00:06:59,810 --> 00:07:04,467 in the community-- drugs, gang banging, violence, and then 147 00:07:04,511 --> 00:07:08,079 you have a place that claims to be opposite of it, of course 148 00:07:08,123 --> 00:07:10,778 you want our children to participate in something better 149 00:07:10,821 --> 00:07:13,258 than what they're used to. 150 00:07:13,302 --> 00:07:17,045 And so bags were packed that night. 151 00:07:17,088 --> 00:07:19,743 We were told transportation will be here tomorrow to get you. 152 00:07:19,787 --> 00:07:23,051 [music playing] 153 00:07:23,094 --> 00:07:26,315 And so when tomorrow came, it was very scary. 154 00:07:29,013 --> 00:07:31,233 We didn't know who we were staying with. 155 00:07:31,276 --> 00:07:34,410 We didn't know who it was that was transporting us. 156 00:07:34,454 --> 00:07:38,022 [music playing] 157 00:07:38,066 --> 00:07:39,937 It was a semi truck. 158 00:07:39,981 --> 00:07:43,332 It read on the side, The United Nation of Islam. 159 00:07:43,375 --> 00:07:49,991 And we rode in back to be transported to heaven. 160 00:07:56,824 --> 00:08:00,523 When the truck pulled up, me and my brother got off. 161 00:08:00,567 --> 00:08:04,353 The first thing they told us was, this is the FY barracks. 162 00:08:04,396 --> 00:08:07,835 So leaving your parents' house and transitioning 163 00:08:07,878 --> 00:08:12,666 into barracks, it's a place where soldiers reside. 164 00:08:12,709 --> 00:08:14,972 So we're no longer children. 165 00:08:15,016 --> 00:08:16,278 We're expected to be soldiers. 166 00:08:16,321 --> 00:08:18,846 We're expected to be men. 167 00:08:18,889 --> 00:08:22,545 And that meant anything that came along with that. 168 00:08:22,589 --> 00:08:24,678 You had to endure it. 169 00:08:24,721 --> 00:08:26,506 ROYALL JENKINS: You know, being young is one thing, 170 00:08:26,549 --> 00:08:28,682 but being young and dumb and rebellious is another. 171 00:08:28,725 --> 00:08:30,422 That is not tolerated. 172 00:08:30,466 --> 00:08:34,514 Now, in our attempt to make sure that you develop properly, 173 00:08:34,557 --> 00:08:38,518 sometimes you make us bring out unpleasantries. 174 00:08:38,561 --> 00:08:40,607 ELIJAH MUHAMMAD: We put our trust into something 175 00:08:40,650 --> 00:08:42,565 that we thought was a religion, which 176 00:08:42,609 --> 00:08:45,133 turned out to be a monster. 177 00:08:45,176 --> 00:08:49,006 [music playing] 178 00:09:00,627 --> 00:09:04,021 What does a person that was watching this program, what 179 00:09:04,065 --> 00:09:05,762 do they have to-- 180 00:09:05,806 --> 00:09:07,895 first steps they have to make to start process of seeing Allah? 181 00:09:07,938 --> 00:09:09,505 Because they not gonna see him just by looking 182 00:09:09,549 --> 00:09:10,811 at your physical person. 183 00:09:10,854 --> 00:09:12,508 True. 184 00:09:12,552 --> 00:09:15,293 Like, I have met with many people that has been with me 185 00:09:15,337 --> 00:09:16,686 and that still are. 186 00:09:16,730 --> 00:09:18,253 They change their looks. 187 00:09:18,296 --> 00:09:19,950 They change their thinking. 188 00:09:19,994 --> 00:09:23,345 They change their bank account because of the discipline. 189 00:09:23,388 --> 00:09:28,611 They learning of what truth produces. 190 00:09:28,655 --> 00:09:31,309 So let's talk a little bit about your trip to heaven. 191 00:09:31,353 --> 00:09:32,789 Maybe it's because I'm a mom of two 192 00:09:32,833 --> 00:09:34,530 boys about the same age as you and your brother 193 00:09:34,574 --> 00:09:35,705 were when you were sent there. 194 00:09:35,749 --> 00:09:37,185 But that really got to me, watching 195 00:09:37,228 --> 00:09:40,014 you talk about that and how scary and hard 196 00:09:40,057 --> 00:09:42,973 that must have been. 197 00:09:43,017 --> 00:09:45,236 How hard was it to leave home? 198 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:46,847 Oh, very, very hard. 199 00:09:46,890 --> 00:09:48,152 Very hard. 200 00:09:48,196 --> 00:09:50,851 Although, we were told this is family, 201 00:09:50,894 --> 00:09:52,766 I didn't know the people. 202 00:09:52,809 --> 00:09:54,985 You know, and naturally a young boy, 203 00:09:55,029 --> 00:09:57,248 he misses his mom and his father. 204 00:09:57,292 --> 00:09:59,250 And for me, it was hard. 205 00:09:59,294 --> 00:10:00,382 You were homesick? 206 00:10:00,425 --> 00:10:01,296 Oh, yeah. 207 00:10:10,131 --> 00:10:14,744 When we arrived to the place where we lived, 208 00:10:14,788 --> 00:10:16,093 I was 12 years old. 209 00:10:19,314 --> 00:10:25,450 It was about 14 individuals who lived in this apartment. 210 00:10:25,494 --> 00:10:28,366 We really didn't have a chance to breathe. 211 00:10:28,410 --> 00:10:32,719 It was constant, constant motion. 212 00:10:32,762 --> 00:10:34,851 School. 213 00:10:34,895 --> 00:10:37,811 Then after school, duty work. 214 00:10:37,854 --> 00:10:39,987 I was a dishwasher. 215 00:10:40,030 --> 00:10:43,164 After work, I went to worship. 216 00:10:43,207 --> 00:10:46,602 Then after worship you go back to the dish washing. 217 00:10:46,646 --> 00:10:50,824 Finish up, go home 3:00 in the morning. 218 00:10:50,867 --> 00:10:53,000 Then wake up at 5:00. 219 00:10:53,043 --> 00:10:53,870 Do it all over again. 220 00:10:56,656 --> 00:11:00,311 That was my daily routine at 12 years old. 221 00:11:00,355 --> 00:11:05,186 It was better that my brother was there with me. 222 00:11:05,229 --> 00:11:11,018 Life in heaven was strange. 223 00:11:11,061 --> 00:11:14,586 We were all compacted in this small community in Kansas. 224 00:11:14,630 --> 00:11:16,371 I was 15 years old. 225 00:11:16,414 --> 00:11:18,895 And we had school at the university 226 00:11:18,939 --> 00:11:22,029 where we pretty much was just reminded over 227 00:11:22,072 --> 00:11:25,597 and over and over again about what our purpose was 228 00:11:25,641 --> 00:11:31,560 on the planet, which was to learn everything from Royall 229 00:11:31,603 --> 00:11:35,956 and then go out and teach the world how to be civilized 230 00:11:35,999 --> 00:11:38,698 and how to be like god. 231 00:11:38,741 --> 00:11:41,048 [music playing] 232 00:11:47,271 --> 00:11:50,013 You know, when you have a child, more than one, 233 00:11:50,057 --> 00:11:52,581 and one is very obedient, you know, 234 00:11:52,624 --> 00:11:56,019 it goes the way it is supposed to do, very respectful, 235 00:11:56,063 --> 00:11:58,108 you can't do enough for that child. 236 00:11:58,152 --> 00:12:01,198 Then you have another child, his brother or sister. 237 00:12:01,242 --> 00:12:02,809 They just the opposite. 238 00:12:02,852 --> 00:12:05,725 So that's where the power needs to be shown, on the one 239 00:12:05,768 --> 00:12:08,205 that's acting obstinate. 240 00:12:08,249 --> 00:12:09,772 The studies for the University of Islam 241 00:12:09,816 --> 00:12:13,123 is rooted in their book that orientates you 242 00:12:13,167 --> 00:12:15,909 to the philosophies of the Nation, which was called, 243 00:12:15,952 --> 00:12:17,649 "The Book of Introduction." 244 00:12:17,693 --> 00:12:21,262 They would touch on things like math, reading, language. 245 00:12:21,305 --> 00:12:24,439 Royall taught that language was something that lays with you. 246 00:12:24,482 --> 00:12:26,876 And so they teach you how to speak a certain way 247 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,662 and use words that mean something different. 248 00:12:30,706 --> 00:12:33,622 There were certain words that was forbidden. 249 00:12:33,665 --> 00:12:35,145 Like the word, hello. 250 00:12:35,189 --> 00:12:36,973 It was not getting on the phone and saying, hello. 251 00:12:37,017 --> 00:12:40,411 It was, yes, or to whom am I speaking? 252 00:12:40,455 --> 00:12:41,717 It was not, hello. 253 00:12:41,761 --> 00:12:44,067 Royall taught that this subliminally 254 00:12:44,111 --> 00:12:48,593 sentences the receiver to the lowest part of hell. 255 00:12:48,637 --> 00:12:49,594 This is what they do. 256 00:12:49,638 --> 00:12:51,031 They control how you speak. 257 00:12:51,074 --> 00:12:54,425 If you was found saying any one of these, 258 00:12:54,469 --> 00:12:57,559 you were definitely in trouble. 259 00:12:57,602 --> 00:13:00,518 You would be at the mic in math class, definitely. 260 00:13:04,261 --> 00:13:08,352 Math class is not the normal math class. 261 00:13:08,396 --> 00:13:11,486 The class consisted of different people 262 00:13:11,529 --> 00:13:14,706 who did bad things that day. 263 00:13:14,750 --> 00:13:16,752 So if you were scolded for something, 264 00:13:16,796 --> 00:13:19,494 you were brought to the mic at Math class 265 00:13:19,537 --> 00:13:23,019 and publicly humiliated. 266 00:13:23,063 --> 00:13:25,500 If they found out you were walking 267 00:13:25,543 --> 00:13:29,678 the wrong way down the street, you were a scenario that night. 268 00:13:29,721 --> 00:13:35,423 You were brought in front of the people and you were humiliated. 269 00:13:35,466 --> 00:13:38,992 Disciplinary action is what is next. 270 00:13:39,035 --> 00:13:43,083 A person that was in a scenario or an infraction 271 00:13:43,126 --> 00:13:48,088 in the Nation, the entire auditorium of people 272 00:13:48,131 --> 00:13:51,178 would come to the mic and punch the person in the chest. 273 00:13:54,007 --> 00:13:56,052 That was what was referred to as a chest cap. 274 00:13:59,403 --> 00:14:02,493 You would hear the wind being knocked out of the person. 275 00:14:02,537 --> 00:14:05,583 But to see a person who was a part of the Nation 276 00:14:05,627 --> 00:14:10,937 get physically hit, it was shocking. 277 00:14:10,980 --> 00:14:12,939 So it was-- yeah, it was very militant. 278 00:14:12,982 --> 00:14:14,766 That's what they called everybody, military. 279 00:14:14,810 --> 00:14:16,377 We were the soldiers. 280 00:14:16,420 --> 00:14:19,902 And if you got a order, you don't question your order. 281 00:14:19,946 --> 00:14:22,862 You just carry it out. 282 00:14:22,905 --> 00:14:27,562 When you understand the propaganda that was taught 283 00:14:27,605 --> 00:14:30,391 and you understand why it was taught that way, 284 00:14:30,434 --> 00:14:34,221 you start to believe that. 285 00:14:34,264 --> 00:14:36,614 And so, yes, we were the biggest supporters of it. 286 00:14:58,636 --> 00:15:02,553 We really didn't communicate much back home. 287 00:15:02,597 --> 00:15:09,430 When we would speak, an official would monitor the phone calls. 288 00:15:12,607 --> 00:15:14,522 So we really wouldn't-- 289 00:15:14,565 --> 00:15:16,959 they didn't reach out to us much and we weren't calling them. 290 00:15:22,747 --> 00:15:24,445 What was the promise given to your parents? 291 00:15:24,488 --> 00:15:26,882 What will we do with your kids at heaven? 292 00:15:26,926 --> 00:15:29,276 The promise that they gave was pretty much 293 00:15:29,319 --> 00:15:34,803 that we had the opportunity to guarantee our salvation. 294 00:15:34,846 --> 00:15:37,066 And it was just businesses in heaven, 295 00:15:37,110 --> 00:15:39,199 because a lot of these kids were brought to heaven 296 00:15:39,242 --> 00:15:43,681 and trained, indoctrinated and then sent 297 00:15:43,725 --> 00:15:46,249 to other United Nations of Islam businesses 298 00:15:46,293 --> 00:15:47,120 throughout the country. 299 00:15:47,163 --> 00:15:48,121 ELIJAH MUHAMMAD: Correct. 300 00:15:48,164 --> 00:15:49,252 They call it, dispatched. 301 00:15:49,296 --> 00:15:50,036 Dispatched? 302 00:15:50,079 --> 00:15:51,385 Correct. 303 00:15:51,428 --> 00:15:53,474 They would have conferences and it will 304 00:15:53,517 --> 00:15:55,911 literally be like a NFL draft. 305 00:15:55,955 --> 00:15:56,694 Really? 306 00:15:56,738 --> 00:15:58,522 Oh, yeah. 307 00:15:58,566 --> 00:16:01,438 You know, if you made a record for being good at what you were 308 00:16:01,482 --> 00:16:04,964 doing and you didn't cause problems, 309 00:16:05,007 --> 00:16:07,357 you were sent to the newest place that was opening. 310 00:16:07,401 --> 00:16:10,012 So if it was New York, they told you, 311 00:16:10,056 --> 00:16:11,361 hey, you going to New York. 312 00:16:11,405 --> 00:16:12,493 We need you packed tonight. 313 00:16:12,536 --> 00:16:14,190 Could you leave an hour? 314 00:16:14,234 --> 00:16:16,062 Really, that little notice? 315 00:16:16,105 --> 00:16:17,454 Yeah. 316 00:16:17,498 --> 00:16:19,239 Were you separated from your brother? 317 00:16:19,282 --> 00:16:20,414 Were you sent to different places? 318 00:16:20,457 --> 00:16:21,763 Yes. 319 00:16:21,806 --> 00:16:23,983 I remained in heaven or in Kansas City, 320 00:16:24,026 --> 00:16:30,728 Kansas and Carl was sent to the Eastern Shore Maryland Farm. 321 00:16:30,772 --> 00:16:33,862 And then I was sent to New Jersey. 322 00:16:33,905 --> 00:16:36,169 New Jersey was the first place I was dispatched to. 323 00:16:36,212 --> 00:16:37,909 And did they inform your parents you were 324 00:16:37,953 --> 00:16:39,520 being moved to another state? 325 00:16:39,563 --> 00:16:40,651 No. 326 00:16:40,695 --> 00:16:41,957 Wait. 327 00:16:42,001 --> 00:16:43,132 So your parents said goodbye to you in Ohio 328 00:16:43,176 --> 00:16:44,960 and knew you were going to heaven. 329 00:16:45,004 --> 00:16:46,788 And then after that, they had no idea? 330 00:16:46,831 --> 00:16:48,094 Correct. 331 00:16:48,137 --> 00:16:49,660 They wouldn't hear about me or my siblings 332 00:16:49,704 --> 00:16:53,882 being in a different place until someone 333 00:16:53,925 --> 00:16:57,886 who may have seen us in that city went through Cincinnati 334 00:16:57,929 --> 00:17:00,410 and told them. 335 00:17:00,454 --> 00:17:02,717 It became something that you got used to. 336 00:17:06,112 --> 00:17:14,207 For me, I saw it as something to keep you on the right track. 337 00:17:14,250 --> 00:17:17,949 So you were all sort of brainwashed into thinking 338 00:17:17,993 --> 00:17:19,125 this is normal. 339 00:17:19,168 --> 00:17:19,864 Yes. 340 00:17:23,781 --> 00:17:27,002 You've got hundreds of youth who worked sometimes 341 00:17:27,046 --> 00:17:29,135 day and night in the restaurants, 342 00:17:29,178 --> 00:17:31,485 the businesses, supermarkets. 343 00:17:31,528 --> 00:17:36,316 We would go to school then go straight to work. 344 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,101 And we never received any pay. 345 00:17:39,145 --> 00:17:42,800 And not that I'm an adult, I realize what that was. 346 00:17:42,844 --> 00:17:45,586 You know, it was literally-- 347 00:17:45,629 --> 00:17:48,632 under the disguise of building a nation, 348 00:17:48,676 --> 00:17:50,504 it was human trafficking. 349 00:17:50,547 --> 00:17:54,073 You know, we were moved across-- 350 00:17:54,116 --> 00:17:54,812 awe, man. 351 00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:02,777 JALICA: You all right? 352 00:18:02,820 --> 00:18:04,213 Yeah. 353 00:18:04,257 --> 00:18:06,998 [music playing] 354 00:18:15,659 --> 00:18:18,227 The Nation has about six or seven 355 00:18:18,271 --> 00:18:20,099 restaurants around the country. 356 00:18:20,142 --> 00:18:22,013 [music playing] 357 00:18:25,060 --> 00:18:29,891 The organization is utilizing the labor of children. 358 00:18:29,934 --> 00:18:32,894 They are not paying any of these children. 359 00:18:32,937 --> 00:18:36,071 And the majority of the time, the children who 360 00:18:36,115 --> 00:18:38,378 are being moved from state to state 361 00:18:38,421 --> 00:18:40,771 to work in these restaurants, their parents 362 00:18:40,815 --> 00:18:42,338 are not with them. 363 00:18:42,382 --> 00:18:44,210 It's not their parents moving from state to state. 364 00:18:44,253 --> 00:18:47,300 So yes, it's definitely human trafficking. 365 00:18:47,343 --> 00:18:50,694 And I want to expose the Nation of Islam to the FBI 366 00:18:50,738 --> 00:18:54,002 to prevent other kids from going through what myself, friends, 367 00:18:54,045 --> 00:18:56,439 and my family went through. 368 00:18:56,483 --> 00:18:58,789 [music playing] 369 00:19:12,194 --> 00:19:15,502 I actually got a phone call recently from one of the FBI 370 00:19:15,545 --> 00:19:17,721 agents in Kansas City, Kansas. 371 00:19:17,765 --> 00:19:19,201 And he wants to talk to me about some 372 00:19:19,245 --> 00:19:20,420 of the things that happened. 373 00:19:20,463 --> 00:19:24,163 So it's a big major thing going on. 374 00:19:24,206 --> 00:19:27,688 When I ask the FBI agents, you know, simple questions 375 00:19:27,731 --> 00:19:32,345 that anybody can ask, do you know that children are working 376 00:19:32,388 --> 00:19:33,737 and they're not being paid? 377 00:19:33,781 --> 00:19:35,086 Do you know that they're not getting breaks? 378 00:19:35,130 --> 00:19:37,350 Do you know that there are minors working? 379 00:19:37,393 --> 00:19:41,615 I want to address the physical and mental abuse, 380 00:19:41,658 --> 00:19:45,706 and the young people who died. 381 00:19:45,749 --> 00:19:49,013 I'm going to meet my friends that grew up in the Nation. 382 00:19:49,057 --> 00:19:52,669 They have specifics and input that's crucial. 383 00:19:52,713 --> 00:19:54,410 And we're going to talk about this. 384 00:19:54,454 --> 00:19:56,195 Figure out what's the best way to build a case against them. 385 00:20:07,989 --> 00:20:10,296 To help build my case, for the FBI 386 00:20:10,339 --> 00:20:12,080 against the United Nation of Islam, 387 00:20:12,123 --> 00:20:14,387 I'm going to meet my best friends. 388 00:20:14,430 --> 00:20:18,695 Niesha King, Khalib Butler, his sister, Ayana, 389 00:20:18,739 --> 00:20:20,697 and their father, Derek Butler, they 390 00:20:20,741 --> 00:20:23,570 have different time frames of things that have happened 391 00:20:23,613 --> 00:20:26,007 in the Nation that's impactful. 392 00:20:26,050 --> 00:20:28,183 And I think by us all coming to the table 393 00:20:28,227 --> 00:20:30,272 and bringing these different things together, 394 00:20:30,316 --> 00:20:32,187 we'll be able to paint a bigger picture 395 00:20:32,231 --> 00:20:37,061 of what exactly happened and why we need to stop it. 396 00:20:37,105 --> 00:20:38,324 NIESHA KING: Elijah. 397 00:20:38,367 --> 00:20:39,194 Hey, Niesha. 398 00:20:41,805 --> 00:20:43,329 KHALIB BUTLER: E. Fonzarelli. 399 00:20:43,372 --> 00:20:44,112 Khalib. 400 00:20:44,155 --> 00:20:46,201 What's happening? 401 00:20:46,245 --> 00:20:47,028 Aww, man. 402 00:20:47,071 --> 00:20:47,811 [inaudible] 403 00:20:47,855 --> 00:20:49,335 How you doing? 404 00:20:49,378 --> 00:20:50,640 ELIJAH MUHAMMAD: Good, man. 405 00:20:50,684 --> 00:20:54,383 What's going on? 406 00:20:54,427 --> 00:20:56,733 When I joined the organization, 407 00:20:56,777 --> 00:21:02,652 I had donated much time much energy and resources 408 00:21:02,696 --> 00:21:04,437 to the development and the maintenance 409 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,135 of the United Nation of Islam. 410 00:21:07,178 --> 00:21:12,271 Among those resources were my 11 children, Khalib and Ayana. 411 00:21:12,314 --> 00:21:17,711 And they had been offered so that they could be developed 412 00:21:17,754 --> 00:21:19,452 in a way that would be of benefit to all 413 00:21:19,495 --> 00:21:21,454 of us, including themselves. 414 00:21:21,497 --> 00:21:24,805 And so that must weigh heavily on everything that happened 415 00:21:24,848 --> 00:21:27,329 because when they boil it down, they think, 416 00:21:27,373 --> 00:21:28,939 my parents put me in this. 417 00:21:28,983 --> 00:21:31,246 And it's true. 418 00:21:31,290 --> 00:21:33,857 ELIJAH MUHAMMAD: This morning I woke up realized 419 00:21:33,901 --> 00:21:36,817 today's my dad's birthday. 420 00:21:36,860 --> 00:21:38,514 WOMAN: That's a shame. 421 00:21:38,558 --> 00:21:39,646 You can't even call him and tell him happy birthday because he 422 00:21:39,689 --> 00:21:40,908 won't accept that from you. 423 00:21:40,951 --> 00:21:41,778 That's it, yep. 424 00:21:41,822 --> 00:21:43,171 WOMAN: It's really sad. 425 00:21:43,214 --> 00:21:45,434 Yep, and then after I thought about that, 426 00:21:45,478 --> 00:21:49,960 I realized everyone at the table is going to be affected 427 00:21:50,004 --> 00:21:52,441 by exposing yourself, your vulnerability and things 428 00:21:52,485 --> 00:21:54,095 that you've been through. 429 00:21:54,138 --> 00:21:56,271 Those times when you all were in the Nation, 430 00:21:56,315 --> 00:21:58,012 you will never forget them. 431 00:21:58,055 --> 00:21:58,882 ELIJAH MUHAMMAD: Yeah. 432 00:21:58,926 --> 00:22:00,710 You'll never forget them. 433 00:22:00,754 --> 00:22:04,584 And that is why I wanted to make sure that I did something. 434 00:22:04,627 --> 00:22:07,021 When a federal agent reached out to me, 435 00:22:07,064 --> 00:22:09,937 he just wanted to know some of the things that's going on. 436 00:22:09,980 --> 00:22:11,460 And I just wanted to know from you guys 437 00:22:11,504 --> 00:22:14,071 if you had anything that you wanted to make sure that I 438 00:22:14,115 --> 00:22:16,770 shared or brought up and to make sure I 439 00:22:16,813 --> 00:22:18,772 don't leave anything out. 440 00:22:18,815 --> 00:22:20,469 My thing is, the main thing about-- 441 00:22:24,691 --> 00:22:27,650 I can't imagine participating still after realization 442 00:22:27,694 --> 00:22:31,393 of something or a institution that 443 00:22:31,437 --> 00:22:35,310 derives on taking advantage of people young and old. 444 00:22:35,354 --> 00:22:37,791 That's the most cowardly act I think 445 00:22:37,834 --> 00:22:39,358 anybody could ever commit. 446 00:22:39,401 --> 00:22:42,230 To take advantage of children and the elders. 447 00:22:42,273 --> 00:22:43,579 And that's exactly what they doing. 448 00:22:43,623 --> 00:22:44,754 ELIJAH MUHAMMAD: Listen, I personally 449 00:22:44,798 --> 00:22:46,277 witnessed children working under age 450 00:22:46,321 --> 00:22:47,322 when they shouldn't have been. 451 00:22:47,366 --> 00:22:49,019 Yeah. 452 00:22:49,063 --> 00:22:51,282 I remember when I came to Kansas I did not go to school. 453 00:22:51,326 --> 00:22:54,155 I was shipped downstairs to a basement where I worked 454 00:22:54,198 --> 00:22:57,332 with two elderly people who trained 455 00:22:57,376 --> 00:22:59,639 me in the ways of making products 456 00:22:59,682 --> 00:23:01,292 for the Nation's businesses. 457 00:23:01,336 --> 00:23:03,077 It's not like we would be experiencing 458 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:04,687 the benefits of the business. 459 00:23:04,731 --> 00:23:06,297 Like, oh, this is where you can go to wash your laundry. 460 00:23:06,341 --> 00:23:08,387 No, you'll be working here and washing other people's 461 00:23:08,430 --> 00:23:09,736 laundry when they come. 462 00:23:09,779 --> 00:23:11,085 It was just all-- 463 00:23:11,128 --> 00:23:12,478 it was all a lie. 464 00:23:12,521 --> 00:23:16,873 And I stayed in that lab for the next four years. 465 00:23:16,917 --> 00:23:21,530 But, yeah, they still currently have children doing that now, 466 00:23:21,574 --> 00:23:24,620 what we were doing then. 467 00:23:24,664 --> 00:23:29,451 I was sent off to Kansas when I was eight. 468 00:23:29,495 --> 00:23:31,845 I was born in the cult so my dad was 469 00:23:31,888 --> 00:23:33,542 already in it when he had me. 470 00:23:33,586 --> 00:23:37,111 And as a child, being separated from your family members, 471 00:23:37,154 --> 00:23:38,939 you go to a place you don't know anybody, 472 00:23:38,982 --> 00:23:40,288 you're staying with strangers, you're 473 00:23:40,331 --> 00:23:42,116 being told what to do 24/7. 474 00:23:45,336 --> 00:23:46,250 You're being abused. 475 00:23:46,294 --> 00:23:47,556 You're not being fed. 476 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,428 You're having to work in sewing factories 477 00:23:49,471 --> 00:23:53,736 and supermarkets, and other places where no child 478 00:23:53,780 --> 00:23:54,694 should have to do that. 479 00:23:54,737 --> 00:23:56,391 Period. 480 00:23:56,435 --> 00:23:58,654 Fear and isolation were their favorite tactics 481 00:23:58,698 --> 00:24:00,003 to use against us. 482 00:24:00,047 --> 00:24:01,657 The whole concept of the Nation just 483 00:24:01,701 --> 00:24:05,095 blows my mind on how could parents 484 00:24:05,139 --> 00:24:06,880 send their children off? 485 00:24:06,923 --> 00:24:08,795 Like, how could you send me off, dad? 486 00:24:08,838 --> 00:24:11,232 Like, I know you only knew so much, 487 00:24:11,275 --> 00:24:14,409 but it's like, as an 8-year-old, I'm not 16. 488 00:24:14,453 --> 00:24:15,932 I'm not 18. 489 00:24:15,976 --> 00:24:17,281 It's not like I can speak for myself, do for myself, 490 00:24:17,325 --> 00:24:18,935 but it's kind of like-- 491 00:24:18,979 --> 00:24:21,329 I don't understand, like, how can the parents not realize 492 00:24:21,372 --> 00:24:25,115 something is wrong with their kids 493 00:24:25,159 --> 00:24:27,814 and allow people to just do these horrible things to us? 494 00:24:31,339 --> 00:24:34,081 I have to accept the blame where the blame falls. 495 00:24:34,124 --> 00:24:36,953 You know, if my daughter was sitting there saying, 496 00:24:36,997 --> 00:24:40,566 why didn't somebody come and get me out of this, 497 00:24:40,609 --> 00:24:45,005 and I'm not shrewd enough to figure out, you know, 498 00:24:45,048 --> 00:24:47,529 that she's calling for help-- 499 00:24:47,573 --> 00:24:50,053 and I think if it happened to me then 500 00:24:50,097 --> 00:24:52,491 it happened to every parent who dispatched 501 00:24:52,534 --> 00:24:54,536 their children somewhere where we 502 00:24:54,580 --> 00:24:56,930 couldn't see what was going on. 503 00:24:56,973 --> 00:25:00,194 So those kind of things that occurred, you know, 504 00:25:00,237 --> 00:25:01,804 it's like putting a nail in somebody's hand. 505 00:25:01,848 --> 00:25:03,110 You can take it out. 506 00:25:03,153 --> 00:25:04,198 It's still going to be a hole in there 507 00:25:04,241 --> 00:25:05,591 for the rest of their life. 508 00:25:05,634 --> 00:25:07,418 You know, I'm sorry the hole's in there. 509 00:25:07,462 --> 00:25:10,987 That's my fault. But that's why it's so important 510 00:25:11,031 --> 00:25:13,207 to get in touch with the parents or the children 511 00:25:13,250 --> 00:25:14,382 who are currently there now. 512 00:25:14,425 --> 00:25:15,992 Absolutely. 513 00:25:16,036 --> 00:25:17,951 So that it doesn't-- if I can't heal the wound in her 514 00:25:17,994 --> 00:25:20,431 hand, at least I can prevent the wound from 515 00:25:20,475 --> 00:25:22,216 getting in someone else's hand. 516 00:25:22,259 --> 00:25:23,957 That's why it's important. 517 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,438 You know, because it breaks that cycle. 518 00:25:27,482 --> 00:25:30,398 You know, so this cycle should stop. 519 00:25:30,441 --> 00:25:32,182 It's only going to stop if people stop it. 520 00:25:38,537 --> 00:25:41,801 ying] 521 00:25:54,770 --> 00:25:56,119 WOMAN: What's so unique about Food 522 00:25:56,163 --> 00:25:58,078 for Life Supreme is that its value stretches 523 00:25:58,121 --> 00:26:00,036 far beyond what's on its menu. 524 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,952 The restaurant serves as a classroom to local children 525 00:26:02,996 --> 00:26:05,346 aspiring toward careers in culinary arts. 526 00:26:08,044 --> 00:26:10,090 You know, that particular Food for Life location 527 00:26:10,133 --> 00:26:12,005 has a lot of significance. 528 00:26:12,048 --> 00:26:13,397 My memories of being there-- 529 00:26:13,441 --> 00:26:16,662 I had a bad experience when I was there. 530 00:26:16,705 --> 00:26:19,142 When I was there I was there on disciplinary. 531 00:26:19,186 --> 00:26:21,797 They had me on bean, soup, or salad. 532 00:26:21,841 --> 00:26:23,886 It's where I couldn't eat any other food, 533 00:26:23,930 --> 00:26:26,541 but just beans and salad. 534 00:26:26,585 --> 00:26:27,803 I don't know. 535 00:26:27,847 --> 00:26:30,371 It was just a horrible experience. 536 00:26:30,414 --> 00:26:33,853 I don't have too many good memories about it. 537 00:26:33,896 --> 00:26:35,419 ELIJAH MUHAMMAD: The thing about working for Food 538 00:26:35,463 --> 00:26:38,161 for Life Supreme is that Royall liked to put forth 539 00:26:38,205 --> 00:26:41,861 the image of health and wellness being the main thing 540 00:26:41,904 --> 00:26:43,253 that he promotes. 541 00:26:43,297 --> 00:26:45,908 When in reality, he punished the followers 542 00:26:45,952 --> 00:26:49,695 by putting them on restrictive diets and week long fasts. 543 00:26:49,738 --> 00:26:53,481 Fasting was like a main disciplinary action. 544 00:26:53,524 --> 00:26:58,007 Royall taught that when you take a person's meals away, 545 00:26:58,051 --> 00:26:59,661 they can't really focus on what it 546 00:26:59,705 --> 00:27:02,316 is that's going on around them enough 547 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,059 to make a logical decision. 548 00:27:06,102 --> 00:27:08,801 They were doing this to kids and adults. 549 00:27:08,844 --> 00:27:11,064 They were not receiving the nutrition that they needed 550 00:27:11,107 --> 00:27:12,631 or the medical attention that they needed. 551 00:27:17,157 --> 00:27:19,550 BOTH: There it is. 552 00:27:19,594 --> 00:27:20,900 Same color scheme. 553 00:27:20,943 --> 00:27:22,336 When the tile and everything was put in, 554 00:27:22,379 --> 00:27:23,554 you were here for all of that. 555 00:27:23,598 --> 00:27:24,164 Yeah, I was here for all of that. 556 00:27:24,207 --> 00:27:25,426 Yeah. 557 00:27:25,469 --> 00:27:27,123 When I moved here, this was the place 558 00:27:27,167 --> 00:27:29,952 where I started to speak up and say, hey, this is wrong. 559 00:27:29,996 --> 00:27:30,997 CARL: Right. 560 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,346 Y'all doing the wrong thing. 561 00:27:32,389 --> 00:27:34,261 You all are abusing the members. 562 00:27:34,304 --> 00:27:36,829 And I remember Shaquanta worked in here. 563 00:27:36,872 --> 00:27:38,221 Yeah. 564 00:27:38,265 --> 00:27:40,397 This is the last restaurant she was in. 565 00:27:43,183 --> 00:27:46,316 I'll never forget that. 566 00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:49,189 My wife had a sister. 567 00:27:49,232 --> 00:27:50,494 Her name was Shaquanta Williams. 568 00:27:53,584 --> 00:27:55,412 I don't know what happened. 569 00:27:55,456 --> 00:27:58,546 We didn't even get to see her. 570 00:27:58,589 --> 00:28:00,635 There was no funeral. 571 00:28:00,679 --> 00:28:02,202 Only a few people said they seen her. 572 00:28:02,245 --> 00:28:05,031 And when they seen her she was extremely ill to the point 573 00:28:05,074 --> 00:28:07,729 that her eyes were protruding out her head. 574 00:28:07,773 --> 00:28:10,210 We didn't even know she was sick. 575 00:28:10,253 --> 00:28:13,474 She was either 14 or 15. 576 00:28:13,517 --> 00:28:16,129 Shaquanta was a young girl when she passed. 577 00:28:16,172 --> 00:28:19,828 When Shaquanta was sick and all that was happening in here, 578 00:28:19,872 --> 00:28:24,398 they was telling her to still go to work in this place, 579 00:28:24,441 --> 00:28:26,574 that she was faking. 580 00:28:26,617 --> 00:28:30,273 It got to the point where she had to sit down. 581 00:28:30,317 --> 00:28:33,189 You know, like, they had her working while sitting 582 00:28:33,233 --> 00:28:34,887 because she couldn't walk. 583 00:28:34,930 --> 00:28:36,802 They sent her back to Kansas. 584 00:28:36,845 --> 00:28:39,543 They call it the Community House of Wellness. 585 00:28:39,587 --> 00:28:40,980 ELIJAH MUHAMMAD: The United Nation of Islam 586 00:28:41,023 --> 00:28:43,286 had their own medical facility. 587 00:28:43,330 --> 00:28:46,246 They do not believe in western medicine. 588 00:28:46,289 --> 00:28:50,511 The biggest thing that we always try to avoid 589 00:28:50,554 --> 00:28:52,295 was going to the hospital. 590 00:28:52,339 --> 00:28:54,776 If you're following Royall taught, 591 00:28:54,820 --> 00:28:58,040 you won't have no real health situations. 592 00:28:58,084 --> 00:29:00,347 He taught that everybody would live forever. 593 00:29:00,390 --> 00:29:02,697 He was going to change death. 594 00:29:02,741 --> 00:29:04,481 [music playing] 595 00:29:14,665 --> 00:29:17,799 Shaquanta begged to go to the hospital 596 00:29:17,843 --> 00:29:19,801 and they did not take her. 597 00:29:19,845 --> 00:29:22,630 None of them were qualified to treat 598 00:29:22,673 --> 00:29:24,763 what was going on with her. 599 00:29:24,806 --> 00:29:27,591 She should have been immediately taken to the hospital 600 00:29:27,635 --> 00:29:30,333 and it did not happen. 601 00:29:30,377 --> 00:29:35,338 They treated Shaquanta with three baths of Epsom salt, 602 00:29:35,382 --> 00:29:40,213 you know, blended food, music therapy. 603 00:29:40,256 --> 00:29:44,739 And it got to the point where her entire immune system 604 00:29:44,783 --> 00:29:46,436 shut down. 605 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,222 And the story that Royall gives is 606 00:29:49,265 --> 00:29:53,835 that she willed herself into extreme illness 607 00:29:53,879 --> 00:30:00,668 and she, by self conflict, passes. 608 00:30:00,711 --> 00:30:03,062 [music playing] 609 00:30:34,267 --> 00:30:38,706 Pretty much, she died in agony and pain 610 00:30:38,749 --> 00:30:42,666 and we were lied to about it. 611 00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:45,974 My wife was just very broken hearted behind that. 612 00:30:46,018 --> 00:30:49,195 She was-- you know, she just wasn't the same. 613 00:30:49,238 --> 00:30:50,326 She was very quiet. 614 00:30:50,370 --> 00:30:51,806 She didn't talk. 615 00:30:51,850 --> 00:30:53,634 Anybody that know her, she was very playful. 616 00:30:53,677 --> 00:30:55,549 And after that, she wasn't like that anymore. 617 00:30:55,592 --> 00:31:00,467 She was very-- she was just sad all the time. 618 00:31:00,510 --> 00:31:03,296 You know, everything I ever cared about, 619 00:31:03,339 --> 00:31:10,172 you know, just fell through my hands. 620 00:31:10,216 --> 00:31:16,831 There was nothing I could do to stop it from happening. 621 00:31:19,616 --> 00:31:21,140 ELIJAH MUHAMMAD: These are children. 622 00:31:21,183 --> 00:31:25,622 And if we don't do something to help them to escape it, 623 00:31:25,666 --> 00:31:30,410 we're cowering to something that can be easily defeated. 624 00:31:30,453 --> 00:31:32,978 We can bring the people responsible for some type 625 00:31:33,021 --> 00:31:34,196 of justice. 626 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:34,893 I truly believe that. 627 00:31:41,073 --> 00:31:46,905 When I saw Shaquanta last, she was healthy. 628 00:31:46,948 --> 00:31:53,128 And the next time I had seen Shaquanta, she was ashes. 629 00:31:55,914 --> 00:32:00,570 And we were told that that's what she wanted. 630 00:32:00,614 --> 00:32:07,664 She wanted to be with her creator 631 00:32:07,708 --> 00:32:10,493 because passing was not something 632 00:32:10,537 --> 00:32:14,628 that we believed in, especially a young person. 633 00:32:14,671 --> 00:32:20,068 When it happened, we were like, wow, like, no one told us. 634 00:32:20,112 --> 00:32:22,636 But Janja, you you've seen this in other cults 635 00:32:22,679 --> 00:32:26,945 where when they say you're going to live forever or Armageddon 636 00:32:26,988 --> 00:32:29,121 is going to happen on this day at this time, 637 00:32:29,164 --> 00:32:32,515 and then the time and date passes and nothing happens, 638 00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:35,431 or somebody tragically dies. 639 00:32:35,475 --> 00:32:37,868 How do they readjust and keep the faith going? 640 00:32:37,912 --> 00:32:39,392 Right. 641 00:32:39,435 --> 00:32:42,786 Well, typically the leader will reframe the event. 642 00:32:42,830 --> 00:32:45,920 Like saying, you know, she had to go to Allah so she 643 00:32:45,964 --> 00:32:46,790 could be with her husband. 644 00:32:46,834 --> 00:32:47,922 Or she willed herself. 645 00:32:47,966 --> 00:32:48,879 JANJA LALICH: She willed herself. 646 00:32:48,923 --> 00:32:49,837 Yeah, it'll get reframed. 647 00:32:53,841 --> 00:32:56,583 ELIJAH MUHAMMAD: When you tell people for over 20 something 648 00:32:56,626 --> 00:33:01,240 years that they'll live forever, when people start dying, 649 00:33:01,283 --> 00:33:03,807 a lot of people within their right mind 650 00:33:03,851 --> 00:33:06,723 will wonder, what's going on with this? 651 00:33:06,767 --> 00:33:09,074 You know, and that's what ended up happening. 652 00:33:09,117 --> 00:33:11,337 A lot of people did wonder that. 653 00:33:11,380 --> 00:33:13,687 [music playing] 654 00:33:21,434 --> 00:33:24,437 He knew that he lost control of the Nation. 655 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,961 And if the members kept talking, there 656 00:33:27,005 --> 00:33:28,963 goes the entire congregation. 657 00:33:29,007 --> 00:33:32,053 And so that's why at this time, communication 658 00:33:32,097 --> 00:33:37,145 between different states, they said no one was to talk. 659 00:33:37,189 --> 00:33:41,541 A 90 day cleanse was ordered after Shaquanta's death. 660 00:33:41,584 --> 00:33:42,803 What was that about? 661 00:33:42,846 --> 00:33:44,674 What was that supposed to accomplish? 662 00:33:44,718 --> 00:33:48,504 ELIJAH MUHAMMAD: We were supposed to be introduced 663 00:33:48,548 --> 00:33:56,077 into a new expression of godhood and during this time, 664 00:33:56,121 --> 00:34:02,475 intense study into Royall's original philosophy. 665 00:34:02,518 --> 00:34:04,085 They were worried that Shaquanta's death 666 00:34:04,129 --> 00:34:06,957 had shaken so many of you. 667 00:34:07,001 --> 00:34:08,220 We need to make sure-- OK. 668 00:34:08,263 --> 00:34:09,090 No, no, no, no, no. 669 00:34:09,134 --> 00:34:09,917 This is what we believe. 670 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,353 No talking. 671 00:34:11,397 --> 00:34:13,616 That's a perfect example of the kind of control 672 00:34:13,660 --> 00:34:15,792 that'll happen to silence everybody. 673 00:34:15,836 --> 00:34:18,099 Just like, oh, let's have a new campaign. 674 00:34:18,143 --> 00:34:20,362 And let's have everybody rededicate and re-commit. 675 00:34:20,406 --> 00:34:22,234 And nobody is going to have a moment 676 00:34:22,277 --> 00:34:25,324 to think about this girl that just died and a horrible death. 677 00:34:25,367 --> 00:34:26,716 ELIJAH MUHAMMAD: Correct. 678 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,110 So it's very deliberate, very calculated. 679 00:34:29,154 --> 00:34:30,720 But why don't people lose the faith? 680 00:34:30,764 --> 00:34:33,201 Why don't people start going, wait a second. 681 00:34:33,245 --> 00:34:35,421 Well, some people might, but in general people 682 00:34:35,464 --> 00:34:37,814 won't because they're used to following that person 683 00:34:37,858 --> 00:34:40,469 and they're used to trusting and believing in that person. 684 00:34:40,513 --> 00:34:42,732 So in an organization like this, you know, 685 00:34:42,776 --> 00:34:46,649 your only loyalty is to the leader. 686 00:34:46,693 --> 00:34:49,435 [music playing] 687 00:34:54,831 --> 00:34:57,356 ELIJAH MUHAMMAD: I went and I listened to the conference. 688 00:34:57,399 --> 00:35:03,188 And he's telling everyone this is what happened, a girl died. 689 00:35:03,231 --> 00:35:08,193 But hey, my daughter also died three times. 690 00:35:08,236 --> 00:35:14,155 And she died and we have began a process 691 00:35:14,199 --> 00:35:15,635 of making her into someone new. 692 00:35:33,218 --> 00:35:36,873 We were told Royall's daughter was hosting the 24 scientists 693 00:35:36,917 --> 00:35:39,572 that took Royall across the universe 694 00:35:39,615 --> 00:35:42,183 and gave him a little knowledge of everything, 695 00:35:42,227 --> 00:35:44,533 royal said she was a vessel to help 696 00:35:44,577 --> 00:35:47,667 people communicate to them. 697 00:35:47,710 --> 00:35:50,104 He wanted to take the attention off the deaths 698 00:35:50,148 --> 00:35:52,150 and put it on something else. 699 00:35:52,193 --> 00:35:55,196 And that story that he made up about his daughter 700 00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:58,156 was the perfect ploy to do it. 701 00:35:58,199 --> 00:36:00,636 That was it. 702 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,812 I had enough after that. 703 00:36:02,856 --> 00:36:05,641 [music playing] 704 00:36:21,048 --> 00:36:22,745 Before we had to call the police and we 705 00:36:22,789 --> 00:36:27,141 didn't have enough people to come forward and say anything. 706 00:36:27,185 --> 00:36:29,535 But now, we have the opportunity to really 707 00:36:29,578 --> 00:36:33,408 use the truth as a glove, as a punching glove. 708 00:36:41,329 --> 00:36:42,722 We're going to do our best to get the best 709 00:36:42,765 --> 00:36:44,114 blow that we can with it. 710 00:36:57,345 --> 00:36:59,739 [music playing] 711 00:37:10,315 --> 00:37:13,100 The agent wants to meet us a little bit earlier. 712 00:37:13,143 --> 00:37:14,841 100 thoughts running through my mind right now. 713 00:37:14,884 --> 00:37:16,669 I just want to make some I'm spiritually prepared for what's 714 00:37:16,712 --> 00:37:18,236 about to happen. 715 00:37:18,279 --> 00:37:21,195 I'm a little nervous because he got me off my a-game 716 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,153 like I planned, but the unexpected 717 00:37:23,197 --> 00:37:26,287 makes the adventure a little more exciting to me anyway. 718 00:37:26,331 --> 00:37:29,247 So it's not a problem. 719 00:37:29,290 --> 00:37:32,250 We ready to rock and roll. 720 00:37:32,293 --> 00:37:35,078 KC weather for you. 721 00:37:35,122 --> 00:37:37,342 ELIJAH MUHAMMAD: I'm feeling very excited about the FBI 722 00:37:37,385 --> 00:37:43,043 meeting because we get to finally get our story out 723 00:37:43,086 --> 00:37:44,262 to the authorities. 724 00:37:47,177 --> 00:37:51,660 We've never really had the opportunity to come forward 725 00:37:51,704 --> 00:37:55,925 to talk to any law already about what's going on, 726 00:37:55,969 --> 00:37:59,451 but now since they want to know what happened to us, 727 00:37:59,494 --> 00:38:01,583 it gives us a chance to really go over it thoroughly, 728 00:38:01,627 --> 00:38:03,106 the way it should be done. 729 00:38:03,150 --> 00:38:05,457 Specifics, you know, events, things that happened, 730 00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:06,327 the people who died. 731 00:38:09,025 --> 00:38:12,420 The agent said he'll be there at 11:00. 732 00:38:12,464 --> 00:38:14,683 I'm going to talk about some of the deaths that occurred. 733 00:38:14,727 --> 00:38:16,076 Yeah. 734 00:38:16,119 --> 00:38:17,120 The beatings. 735 00:38:17,164 --> 00:38:19,558 Everything. 736 00:38:19,601 --> 00:38:21,864 One of the main things I want to address 737 00:38:21,908 --> 00:38:25,781 is human trafficking and the free labor. 738 00:38:25,825 --> 00:38:31,004 Today, they still are utilizing minors to make their money 739 00:38:31,047 --> 00:38:35,313 and that is something that we need to address ASAP. 740 00:38:35,356 --> 00:38:38,054 [music playing] 741 00:38:42,972 --> 00:38:43,930 All right, man. Wish me luck. 742 00:38:43,973 --> 00:38:44,670 All righty. 743 00:38:48,674 --> 00:38:51,241 ELIJAH MUHAMMAD: Everyone believes whatever they was 744 00:38:51,285 --> 00:38:53,548 told, but it's a select few of us 745 00:38:53,592 --> 00:38:56,638 who really know what happened. 746 00:38:56,682 --> 00:39:05,343 And it's many others who died or lost their parents 747 00:39:05,386 --> 00:39:09,477 and the truth about it never came out. 748 00:39:09,521 --> 00:39:14,917 And I'm hoping that the agents, that they 749 00:39:14,961 --> 00:39:19,052 are the Superman that we've been waiting on to help. 750 00:39:19,095 --> 00:39:21,315 [music playing] 751 00:39:36,243 --> 00:39:38,201 So when you went to go meet with the FBI 752 00:39:38,245 --> 00:39:41,509 in that hotel room, were you nervous? 753 00:39:41,553 --> 00:39:42,510 Oh, yeah. 754 00:39:42,554 --> 00:39:43,859 Absolutely. 755 00:39:43,903 --> 00:39:45,383 Were you afraid they would be like, come on, 756 00:39:45,426 --> 00:39:47,559 this can't possibly be happening in the United 757 00:39:47,602 --> 00:39:50,431 States of America, in full view of everybody. 758 00:39:50,475 --> 00:39:51,911 Yes. 759 00:39:51,954 --> 00:39:53,478 And some people might ask, like, do you get 760 00:39:53,521 --> 00:39:56,785 nervous talking to the feds? 761 00:39:56,829 --> 00:39:59,484 I'm like, listen if you saw what I saw you 762 00:39:59,527 --> 00:40:02,791 would run to talk to the FBI. 763 00:40:02,835 --> 00:40:03,879 What's next on this? 764 00:40:03,923 --> 00:40:05,620 Like, will they tell you if they-- 765 00:40:05,664 --> 00:40:08,754 are they going to go out now and try to verify the stories? 766 00:40:08,797 --> 00:40:11,887 I'm pretty sure they're going to go out and start the process 767 00:40:11,931 --> 00:40:13,236 of verifying the story. 768 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,108 There's actually a lawsuit now. 769 00:40:15,151 --> 00:40:18,416 A woman, a former member of the United Nation of Islam 770 00:40:18,459 --> 00:40:22,507 is suing the organization and corroborating a lot of what 771 00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:23,899 you've been saying all along. 772 00:40:23,943 --> 00:40:25,248 Yes. 773 00:40:25,292 --> 00:40:26,598 Her name is Kendra Ross. 774 00:40:26,641 --> 00:40:29,252 She placed a lawsuit against the organization 775 00:40:29,296 --> 00:40:30,471 for human trafficking. 776 00:40:30,515 --> 00:40:32,778 [music playing] 777 00:40:39,132 --> 00:40:43,745 And so that kind of helped to validate what I was saying. 778 00:40:43,789 --> 00:40:48,097 I'm pretty sure that I put a little bit of fuel 779 00:40:48,141 --> 00:40:51,013 in the FBI's tank to go out after these individuals. 780 00:40:51,057 --> 00:40:53,494 Do you think that your going to authorities 781 00:40:53,538 --> 00:40:57,542 will lead to more people inside the United 782 00:40:57,585 --> 00:40:59,935 Nation of Islam speaking out, either publicly 783 00:40:59,979 --> 00:41:01,371 or to authorities? 784 00:41:01,415 --> 00:41:04,418 I hope so because everyone wants to pretend 785 00:41:04,462 --> 00:41:05,985 like it didn't happen. 786 00:41:06,028 --> 00:41:07,290 You know, they're embarrassed. 787 00:41:07,334 --> 00:41:08,770 They don't want to talk about it. 788 00:41:08,814 --> 00:41:11,817 And I just want to show them that at this point 789 00:41:11,860 --> 00:41:12,948 there's nothing to lose. 790 00:41:12,992 --> 00:41:14,254 There's so much to gain. 791 00:41:14,297 --> 00:41:15,603 So much. 792 00:41:15,647 --> 00:41:20,129 And I have hopes that they do come forward. 793 00:41:20,173 --> 00:41:21,609 I really do. 794 00:41:21,653 --> 00:41:25,352 Especially the ones who are inside because that's 795 00:41:25,395 --> 00:41:27,049 the biggest challenge. 796 00:41:27,093 --> 00:41:30,009 Being able to have someone come forward that's already there 797 00:41:30,052 --> 00:41:31,532 and say something. 798 00:41:31,576 --> 00:41:33,360 What's justice for you? 799 00:41:33,403 --> 00:41:37,886 Justice for me would be would be, 800 00:41:37,930 --> 00:41:41,194 everyone who was involved for Shaquanta's 801 00:41:41,237 --> 00:41:45,938 death, being held responsible. 802 00:41:45,981 --> 00:41:49,028 You know, human trafficking is wrong, 803 00:41:49,071 --> 00:41:51,726 but when it get to the point where people are dying 804 00:41:51,770 --> 00:41:54,903 and it's swept under the rug-- 805 00:41:54,947 --> 00:41:55,991 And a terrible cruel. 806 00:41:56,035 --> 00:41:56,949 Oh, yeah. 807 00:41:56,992 --> 00:41:58,341 Painful. 808 00:41:58,385 --> 00:42:03,912 That girl got no love from and no comfort. 809 00:42:03,956 --> 00:42:05,435 That would be true justice for me. 810 00:42:05,479 --> 00:42:09,004 Everyone involved to be brought to justice for it. 811 00:42:09,048 --> 00:42:11,180 Well, let's hope you get your justice. 812 00:42:11,224 --> 00:42:12,573 Appreciate that. 813 00:42:12,617 --> 00:42:13,748 It's a good first step. 814 00:42:18,536 --> 00:42:21,103 ELIJAH MUHAMMAD: This is the starting point 815 00:42:21,147 --> 00:42:26,369 of bringing the Nation down by exposing the organization as 816 00:42:26,413 --> 00:42:31,766 a cult. We threw such a blow to their recruiting system 817 00:42:31,810 --> 00:42:33,594 and that is big to me. 818 00:42:33,638 --> 00:42:39,034 Because now I know that I did my best to enlighten others 819 00:42:39,078 --> 00:42:43,082 on exactly who they are and why they should 820 00:42:43,125 --> 00:42:44,823 not get involved with them. 821 00:42:44,866 --> 00:42:48,783 If I can go to sleep knowing I did that, I'm fine with that. 822 00:42:51,917 --> 00:42:56,225 This is the start of healing, I feel. 823 00:42:56,269 --> 00:42:59,620 [music playing]