WILL SEE YOU BACK HERE TOMORROW
NIGHT, ARE OF SECRETARY POMPEO.
♪ ♪
>> Tucker: GOOD EVENING AND
WELCOME TO "TUCKER CARLSO*
TONIGHT."
THERE ISOO A LOUD DEBATE GOING N
IN WASHINGTON RIGHT NOW, ONE
THAT WE PARTICIPATE IN, ABOUT
BORDER SECURITY, WHETHER IT'S
BUILD A WALL, HOW MUCH FUNDING
ICE SHOULD GET, WHETHER OUR
DETENTION CENTERS ARE BIG ENOUGH
TO HOLD EVERYONE THE NEED TO
HOLD.
APRIL ARGUE ABOUT THESE
QUESTIONS EVERY DAY.
IF YOU WATCH IT ON TV, SO IT
SEEMS LIKE THE PARTIES ARE
DIVIDED ON THE MATTER BUT ON A
DEEPER LEVEL THERE REALLY IS NO
DEBATE.
THERE IS INSTEAD CONSENSUS.
VIRTUALLY EVERYONE IN OUR
POLITICAL SYSTEM KNOWS AS AN
ARTICLE OF FAITH THAT MASS
IMMIGRATIONN IS GOOD FOR OUR
IMMIGRANTS MAKE US RICHER.
ECONOMY.
THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE TELLS US
THAT OFTEN.
LIBERAL THINK TANKS HAVE STUDIES
CLAIMING TO PROVE IT'S TRUE.
IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS A
BEDROCK PRINCIPLE.
AMERICA WOULD COLLAPSE WITHOUT A
STEADY TORRENT OF NEW ARRIVALS
FROM THE DEVELOPING WORLD,
THAT'S WHAT THEY TELL US.
IMMIGRATION DOESN'T JUST IMPROVE
THE ECONOMY, WHO WOULDN'T HAVE
AN ECONOMY WITHOUT IT.
>> I WANT US TO BE A COUNTRY
WHERE HARDWORKING IMMIGRANTS WHO
PAY TAXES AND, BY THE WAY, ONE
HALF OF UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS PAY
FEDERAL INCOME TAXES.
>> THESE PEOPLE ARE JUST
WAITING.
WAITING FOR A CHANCE TO BE ABLE
TO CONTRIBUTE FULLY.
AND BY THAT STANDARD, 11 MILLION
UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS ARE ALREADY
AMERICANS, IN MY VIEW.
>> WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO GROW
THIS ECONOMY UNLESS WE GROW MORE
DIVERSITY.
>> OUR HISTORY AND THE FACTS
SHOW THAT IMMIGRANTS ARE A NET
PLUS FOR OUR ECONOMY AND OUR
SOCIETY.
>> Tucker: HALF OF ILLEGALS
PAY THEIR TAXES, SAYS
HILLARY CLINTON, YOU SHOULD BE
IMPRESSED AND GRATEFUL.
THIS IS NOT A NEW TALKING POINT,
AS YOU CAN TELL FROM THE AGING
VIDEO WE JUST SHOWED YOU, BUT
LIKE EVERYTHING IN THIS COUNTRY
IT IS ACCELERATED DRAMATICALLY
IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
THE LEFT'S NEW POSITION IS THAT
IMMIGRANTS ARE JUST GOOD FOR
AMERICA, THEY ARE BETTER FOR
AMERICA THAN YOU ARE.
IF THEY DON'T COMPLAIN, THEY
DON'T FILE HR COMPLAINTS.
IF THEY DON'T GET EXPENSIVE
LONG-TERM DISEASES LIKE DIABETES
OR OPIOID ADDICTION, THEY JUST
DO WHAT THEY'RE TOLD.
THEY'RE THE NOBLE WORKERS ARE
LEADERS ALWAYS WANTED.
JUST TWO DAYS AGO
SENATOR KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND OF
NEW YORK, WHO BY WAY IS RUNNING
FOR PRESIDENT, EXPLAINED THAT
EVERY SINGLE IMMIGRANT IN
AMERICA IS GOOD, NO MATTER HOW
THEY S GOT HERE OR WHY JUST BY
VIRTUE OF THE FACT THAT THERE
IMMIGRANTS.
EVER HEARD ANYONE SAY THAT ABOUT
AMERICAN CITIZENS?
KNOW.
AND DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH.
BUT GILLIBRAND CLEARLY MEANT
ABOUT IMMIGRANTS.
WATCH.
>> IF THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS
AN ILLEGAL HUMAN.
YOU HAVE IMMIGRANT POPULATIONS
ACROSSHU THE STATE, REFUGEE
POPULATIONS THAT MAKE YOUR
ECONOMY STRONGER, THAT MAKE YOUR
CITY AND STATES STRONGER, THAT
MAKE THIS COUNTRY STRONGER.
>> Tucker: FALL CYST PERSON IN
WASHINGTON.
BUT SHE'S SAYING SOMETHING THAT
EVERYONE ELSE BELIEVES,
IMMIGRANTS MAKE OUR ECONOMY
STRONGER.
OKAY, THAT'S THE CLAIM.
IS IT TRUE?
IN SOME CASES IT IS TRUE.
PLENTY OF IMMIGRANTS HAVE DONE A
GREAT JOB IN THIS COUNTRY, THEY
ARE HIGHLY PATRIOTIC.
THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL IN BUSINESS,
THEIR GREAT NEIGHBORS AND
FRIENDS.
EVERYBODY MOST PEOPLE LIKE THAT
AND EVERYBODY IS GLAD THEY ARE
HERE.
BUT NOTIKE EVERY IMMIGRANT IS LE
EVERY OTHER IMMIGRANT.
GILLIBRAND,IRSTEN
BUT THEY ARE NOT ALL THE SAME.
OUR CURRENT IMMIGRATION SYSTEM
TREATS THEM LIKE THEY ARE.
IT TREATS PEOPLE LIKE WIDGETS.
OUR GOVERNMENT DOES VIRTUALLY
NOTHING TO SEPARATE THE GOOD
FROM THE BAD.
A SYSTEM LIKE THAT IS NOT
DESIGNED TO HELP AMERICA, IT'S
DESIGNED FOR THE BENEFIT OF
FOREIGNERS, AND BY THAT MEASURE,
IT HAS BEEN WILDLY SUCCESSFUL.
A NEW STUDY SHOWS THAT JUST LAST
YEAR IMMIGRANTS LIVING IN THE
UNITED STATES SPENT AT LEAST
$120 BILLION IN REMITTANCES TO
THE COUNTRY THEY CAME FROM.
EVEN IN AN AGE OF EXPANDING
COSTS, 120 BILLION IS A LOT OF
MONEY.
IT'S MORE, FOR EXAMPLE, THEN WE
SPENT ON THEMP FIRST GULF WAR.
MORE THAN THE ENTIRE RUSSIAN
MILITARY SPENDS EVERY TWO YEARS.
THAT'S ENOUGH MONEY TO BUY
COSTCO.
NOT THE STUFF ON THE SHELVES,
BUT THE ENTIRE COMPANY, AND
STILL HAVE $15 BILLION LEFT
OVER.
THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY AND ALL OF
IT COULD BE GOING TO AMERICANS,
MANY OF WHOM BADLY NEEDED.
BUT INSTEAD, MEXICO RECEIVED
LAST YEAR.
$33 BILLION IN REMITTANCES JUST
THAT COUNTRY'S OWN PRESIDENT
ADMITS THE ECONOMY WOULD GO
UNDER WITHOUT THOSE PAYMENTS.
IN GUATEMALA REMITTANCES FROM
THE UNITED STATES AMOUNTED TO A
FULL 11% OF THEIR ENTIRE GDP.
IN EL SALVADOR AND HONDURAS,
THAT'S 18 AND 20%, RESPECTIVELY.
IN THE PAST DECADES, THOSE THREE
COUNTRIES HAVE RECEIVED A TOTAL
OF 120 BILLION IN REMITTANCES
FROM THE UNITED STATES.
IT'S NOT JUST LATIN AMERICA
THAT'S BENEFITING FROM THIS.
CHINA, WHICH HARDLY NEEDS AT, IT
GETS $15 BILLION A YEAR IN
REMITTANCES.
INDIA, TEN AND A HALF BILLION.
THE UNUM, 7 BILLION.
NIGERIA FIVE AND A HALF BILLION.
RUSSIA 300 MILLION.
WE COULD GO ON AND ON.
NONE OF THIS IS AN ATTACK ON
IMMIGRANTS.
IN MOST CASES THEY ARE JUST
HELPING THEIR FAMILIES BACK
HOME, AND GOOD FOR THEM.
IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT.
IT'S OUR FAULT.
MUCH OF THIS MONEY HAS NEVER
BEEN TAXED AT ANY LEVEL.
MOREON THAN 10 MILLION ILLEGAL
ALIENS ARE BELIEVED TO BE
WORKING IN THIS COUNTRY UNDER
THE TABLE.
THAT'S PART OF THE REASON THAT
BETWEEN 2012 AND 2016 AN
ESTIMATED 39 MILLION
SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS WERE
STOLEN FROM AMERICANS FOR
FRAUDULENT USE, A FACT THAT IS
RARELY REPORTED.
BUT LEGAL OR NOT IMMIGRANTS SEND
THEIR EARNINGS ARE BROUGHT AND
PAY NOTHING WHEN THEY DO IT
BECAUSE REMITTANCES ARE UNTAXED.
IT'S A PRETTY GOOD DEAL FOR
MEXICO AND GUATEMALA.
WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU MADE
A FINANCIAL TRANSACTION THAT
WASN'T TAXED?
CAN YOU EVEN REMEMBER?
AT ONE POINT THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION PROPOSED AA
REMITTANCE TAX.
LOBBYIST FOR MEXICO DIDN'T LIKE
THE IDEA, THE IDEA WENTOS NOWHE.
WE CAN'T FIX THAT ON THE SHOW.
WHAT WE CAN DO IS BE HONEST
ABOUT WHAT ISHA HAPPENING.
IMMIGRATION IS GOOD FOR OUR
ECONOMY.
SURE.GRAT
IT CAN BE GOOD.
IMMIGRATION IS ALWAYS GOOD FOR
OUR ECONOMY?
MORE IMMIGRATION IS ALWAYS
BETTER FOR OUR ECONOMY?
NO, THAT'S A LIE.
THERE'S NOTHING TO SUPPORT THAT
CLAIM.
THERE'S A LOT OF EVIDENCE TO
DISPROVE IT.
ANYONE WHO TELLS YOU THAT, AND
THAT'S PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE YOU
SEE ON TELEVISION, EITHER
DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE SUBJECT
ORANGE LIGHTING DON'T LIKE LYING
TO YOU PURPOSEFULLY, AND MAYBE
BOTH, JUST SO YOU KNOW.
THE DIRECTOR OF RESEARCH FOR THE
CENTER FOR IMMIGRATION STUDIES
JOINS US TONIGHT.
THANKS VERY MUCH FOR COMING ON.
$120 BILLION IN REMITTANCES THEY
ARE NOT TAXED.
I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING IN
AMERICA THAT'S NOT TAXED EXCEPT
REMITTANCES, WHY IS THAT?
>> AT PRESENT EXCEPT FOR THE
STATE OF OKLAHOMA, WHICH DOES
HAVE ITS OWN TAX, IT TAXES
REMITTANCES SENT OVERSEAS, MONEY
IS ALLOWED TO FLOW OUT OF THE
UNITED STATES AND VERY LARGE
DOLLAR AMOUNTS AND, NO, WE DON'T
COLLECT ANY --
>> Tucker: I KNOW FOR A FACT
THAT IF I BROUGHT 100 GRAND IN
CASH TO AN AIRPORT AND WAS
CAUGHT DOING IT THEY WOULD SEIZE
IT FOR ME.
>> THEY MIGHT COME HE IS.
>> Tucker: IF DO.
BUT I CAN SEND AS MUCH AS I WANT
TO MEXICO AND NOT BE TAXED ON
IT.
I GUESS I NEED BETTER LOBBYISTS
MAY BE.
IS THAT THE LESSON?
>> IT'S TRUE.
YOU'RE RIGHT, IT ISN'T JUST
AMERICAN BUSINESSES THAT DON'T
LIKE IT OR THE MEXICAN
GOVERNMENT BUT THERE ARE
AMERICANS WHO HANDLE THESE WIRE
TRANSFERS.
THEY CHARGE A FEE, THEY COLLECT
MONEY FROM IT, BUT NOT THE
TAXPAYER DOESN'T GET ANYTHING
FROM IT, AT LEAST NOT RIGHT NOW.
>> Tucker: AGAIN, I DON'T
BEGRUDGE ANYONE -- IN FACT I
COMMEND PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HELP
THEIR FAMILIES, ESPECIALLY THEIR
AGING PARENTS.
I'M TOTALLY FOR THAT BUT THIS
DOES UNDERMINE UNIVERSALLY
ACCEPTED CLAIMANT IMMIGRATION
ALWAYS MAKES THE ECONOMY
STRONGER.
IF IMMIGRANTS ARE SENDING
120 BILLION OUT OF THE COUNTRY,
HOW DOES THAT HELP OUR ECONOMY?
>> IT PROBABLY DOESN'T.
YOU'RE RIGHT.
IT'S MONEY FLOWING OUT OF THE
UNITED STATES SO IT CAN'T BE
TAXED IN THE WAY IT WOULD.
IT'S NOT HERE FOR SAVINGS OR
INVESTMENT, IT DOESN'T SPUR
CONSUMER SPENDING HERE AND THE
OTHER POLYP THAT MY PROBLEM IS
IT'S OFTEN FLOWING OUT OF THE
MANY OF THE POOREST COMMUNITIES
IN THE UNITED STATES.
FOR MEXICO AND CENTRAL AMERICA,
MORE THAN HALF OF IMMIGRANTS
FROM THOSE REGIONS LIVE IN OR
NEAR POVERTY IN THE
UNITED STATES AND THERE STILL
SENDING A LARGE FRACTION OF THAT
MONEY OF THOSE IMMIGRANTS FROM
THERE.
SO THAT IS A BIG CONCERN.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S POOR PEOPLE
IN EFFECT MAKING THEM SOMEWHAT
POORER BUT THEY ARE JOYS OF MY
CHOOSING TO DO IT BUT IT'S ALSO
FLOWING OUT OF COMMUNITIES THAT
REALLY COULD USE THE RESOURCE
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE
DISADVANTAGES OFA IMMIGRATION.
>> Tucker: I WISH PEOPLE WOULD
STOP LYING ABOUT IT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
JONATHAN HARRIS IS A DEMOCRATIC
POLITICAL COMMENTATOR AND WE ARE
HAPPY TO HAVE THEM ON THE SHOW
AS ALWAYS.
THANKS VERY MUCH FOR COMING ON.
YOU OFTEN HAVE A CLAIM, THE
BLANKET CLAIM, AND AS I SAID IN
THE OPEN, WE ARE NOT MAKING THE
CLAIMANT IMMIGRATION IS ALWAYS
BAD, A LOT OF GREAT IMMIGRANTS,
SOME OF THEM ARE MY FRIEND BUT
YOU BRING TO THIS COUNTRY, THE
THE IDEA THAT THE MORE PEOPLE
POOR PEOPLE, THE RICHER YOU GET
IS A LIE.
THERE'S NO EVIDENCE TOSP SUPPORT
IT IN THE EVIDENCE OUTLINED
TONIGHT SHOWS WHY.
SO WHY ARE WE STILL LYING ABOUT
THIS?
>> I DON'T
THINK THAT THAT'S THE
CLAIM.
I DON'T THINK THAT EVERYBODY IS
SAYING THAT IMMIGRANTS ARE ALL
GOOD.
IF THEY ARE ALL GOOD, THERE'S
NOTHING BY THEIG COMES WITH THE.
PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS
SOMETIMES CRIME, SOMETIMES
THINGS THAT COME WITH THEM BUT I
THINK WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS
THAT BY AND LARGE THEY ARE LESS
LIKELY TO COMMIT CRIMES.
THEY TAKE JOBS THAT NOT ONLY THE
TYPICAL ARGUMENT HERE THAT
AMERICANS DON'T TAKE, BUT ALSO
JOBS THAT SPECIFICALLY STIMULATE
OUR ECONOMY.
THEY TAKE LESS AND TAX USING
PROGRAMS. -
>> Tucker: CLEARLY THERE ARE A
LOT OF VERY SUCCESSFUL
IMMIGRANTS AND START A LOT OFA
COMPANIES.
THAT STIMULATE THE ECONOMY BUT
I'M TALKING ABOUT IMMIGRANTS --
AND THIS IS I THINK MORE THAN
HALF WHO DON'T HAVE A
HIGH SCHOOL EDUCATION AND WERE
WORKING FOR THE LOWEST WAGES
THAT WE PAY IN THIS COUNTRY,
WHAT JOBS DO THEY TAKE THAT
STIMULATE THE ECONOMY?
>> THEY ARE SERVICE JOBS THEIR>>
FARMING JOBS, JOBS AND
HOSPITALITY FOR EXAMPLE.
HOSPITALITY JOBS DOING
HOUSEKEEPING SERVICES, THINGS
LIKE THAT.
THESE ARE JOBS THAT ACTUALLY
STIMULATE THEE ECONOMY BECAUSE F
AMERICANS WERE GOING TO TAKE
THOSE JOBS THEY WOULD HAVE TO
PAY FAR MORE.
BUT WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO PAY
A LIVING WAGE SO INSTEAD THEY
PAY LESS THAN SOMEONE CAN LIVE
ON AND S OFF OF THE COST THE U..
TAXPAYER AND SOCIAL PROGRAMS.
>> THAT'S A HOLD OF THE PROBLEM.
>> Tucker: NO,at IT'S THE SAME
PROBLEM.
IF I'M AN EMPLOYER WHAT I WOULD
RATHER HIRE YOU A COLLEGE
EDUCATED AMERICAN TWO LIVES OR
WHAT IT RATHER HIRE SOMEONE YOU
USED TO MAKING $3 A DAY AND
ENCOURAGE THEM TO GO ON STUDENT
DON'T HAVE FOOD STAMPS AND GET
HOUSING VOUCHERS?
>> IF CAPITALISM IS CONTRIBUTED
WALMART DOES THAT WITH THEIR
WORKERS, ALL COMPANIES, THEY PAY
THEM THE BARE MINIMUM AND THEN
WE GET STUCK.
>> Tucker: WHY IS IT
CAPITALISM TO OFF-LOAD MY LABOR
COST ONTO U.S. TAXPAYERS WITHOUT
TELLING THEM?
THAT'S NOTST O CAPITALISM, THATA
CRIMINAL SCAMPERED >> THAT'S THE
WAY THAT OUR SYSTEM WORKS.
>> Tucker: THAT'S NOT
CAPITALISM.
>> HOW MANY OPENINGS PAID
WORKERS, AMAZON, McDONALD'S
THAT PAY THEIR WORKERS ARE LESS
AND HAVE TO GO.
GET GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE AND
WOULD PAY FOR IT.
THAT'S NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT
HAPPENS WITH ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
>> Tucker:uc IT'S NOT JUST
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, YOU'RE
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
THEY MAKE IT MUCH WORSE BY
FLOODING THE LABOR MARKET AT THD
LOWER END AND BUSINESSES CAN DO
THIS BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL WORK
FOR LESS.
MY QUESTION -- THIS IS ALL
SUPPLY AND DEMAND, ECON 101.
WHY IS THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
MAKING EXCUSES FOR THIS AND
DEFENDING THOSE PEOPLE WHO THAT?
WHY THEY DEFENDING JEFF BEZOS
AND THEDI BIG EMPLOYERS WHO ARE
HURTING THE POOREST IN OUR
SOCIETY?
>> THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY'RE
DOING.
THEY ARE RESPONDING TO A
CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN PARTY
THAT DEMONIZES ILLEGAL
IMMIGRANTS AS IF WE ARE NOT ALL
HERE BECAUSE OF ILLEGAL
IMMIGRANTS OR IMMIGRANTS
DEPENDING ON HOW YOU VIEW
HISTORY.
>> Tucker: IS NOT AN ECONOMIC
QUESTION -- THERE'S ALWAYS
MORALIZING.
I'M A GOOD PERSON.
IT'S ECONOMICS.
THERE'S A MORAL COMPONENT BUT
ULTIMATELY IT'S HOW MUCH DOES IT
COST TO EMPLOY SOMEBODY AND IF
SOMEONE FROM A THIRD WORLD IS
WILLING TO WORK FOR AOM LOT LES,
WHY WOULDN'T THAT SHAFT POOR
AMERICANS?
THEY CAN'T MAKE THAT AMOUNT
BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT LIVING --
THEY'RE NOT USED TO THE SAME
STANDARDS OF LIVING.
TO SEE WHAT I'M SAYING?
>> WHAT I'M SAYING IS THIS IS
NOT A PROBLEM THAT SOLELY
AFFECTS ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS A
PROBLEM WITH LOW WAGES OVERALL
WHICH I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH YOU
ONE.
LOW WAGES OVERALLLL ARE BAD FOR
THIS COUNTRY BECAUSE TAXPAYERS
GET STUCK WITH PAIN FOR THE
SERVICES THAT THEHE WORKERS GO O
THE AMERICAN --
>> Tucker: WE ARE IN AGREEMENT
ON THAT BUT LET'S CONNECT A FEW
DOCS PURITY TO EVER WONDER WHY
NANCY PELOSI AND KIRSTEN
GILLIBRAND A CORY BOOKER AND ALL
THE SUPPOSEDLY. LIBERAL PEOPLE
ARE ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE
ARGUMENT AS ALL THESE BIG
LOW-WAGE EMPLOYERS, THE CHICKEN
PLANTS, WALMART, HAVE YOU EVER
NOTICED HOW THEY ARE ON SAME
SIDE OF THE DEBATE?
BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL FOR
TRANSGENDERED BATHROOMS OR IS
THERE SOMETHING DEEPER GOING ON?
>> THAT'S ACTUALLY USUALLY
CONSERVATIVES THAT SUPPORT
BUSINESSES LIKEAT THAT.
>> Tucker: HAS BEEN, RIGHT.
>> WHAT LIBERALS ARE DOING IS
THEY'RE ACTUALLY COUNTERING
CONSERVATIVES WHO DEMONIZE
IMMIGRANTS, ILLEGAL AND
OTHERWISE.
>> Tucker: THIS PONY YOU'RE
BEING MEAN.
THIS MORAL STUFF.
>> THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
THAT SPEWS LIES ABOUT IMMIGRANT
IMMIGRANTS.
THEY PROBABLY CARE.
>> Tucker: WHAT I SAID IS NOT
IT'S REAL AND HAS IT EVER
OCCUR TO YOU THAT MAYBE YOU'RE
DOING THE BIDDING OF BIG
COMPANIES?
YOU SPECIFICALLY IN YOUR PARTY A
FOR SURE THE BIDDING OF BIG
COMPANIES THAT ARE LOWERING THE
PRICE OF LABOR.
>> MY PARTY IS SPECIFICALLY
ASKING FOR THESE COMPANIES TO
PAY A HIGHER LIVING WAGE SO THAT
THESE PEOPLE DO NOT GO TO THE
GOVERNMENT FOR SERVICES.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE ARE DOING
THAT.
>> Tucker: BECAUSE THEY ARE
MAKING IT POSSIBLE FOR MILLIONST
OF POOR PEOPLE WHO WILL WORK FOR
MUCH LESS THAN AMERICANS WILL TO
LIVE IN THISIS COUNTRY.
>> SAYING THAT WE WANT ILLEGAL
IMMIGRANTS IN THIS COUNTRY TO BE
DOCUMENT, TO BE VERIFIED SO THAT
WE KNOW THAT THEY ARENT HERE AND
WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE MAKING A
LIVING WAGE, I CAN UNDERSTAND
WHY YOU'RE MAKING THAT THAT WE
AREE FIGHTING FOR --
>> Tucker: OR MORE PEOPLE
WILLING TO WORK FOR LESS BECAUSE
OF THE PRICE OF LABOR TO DROP.
OVERABUNDANCE OF SOMETHING, ITS
VALUE FALLS.
THAT'S WHY SANDERS T.
THIS IS SUPPLY AND DEMAND.
>> THE FULL PICTURE.
>> Tucker: LET EVERYBODY IN.
>> NO, WHO GAVE AMNESTY?
THAT WAS REAGAN.
THAT YOU GUYS LETTING EVERYBODY
IN.
>> Tucker: IN 1986.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET ME TO
DEFEND THE REAGAN AMNESTY UNDER
SAYING IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THE
SIDE OF AMAZON AGAINST NORMAL
PEOPLE.
>> THAT'S NOT AT ALL WHAT WE'RE
DOING.
>> Tucker: IT'S VERY MUCH
WE'REOR DOING.
>> ASKING FOR THESE PEOPLE TO BE
DOCUMENTED IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE
OF THAT.
>> Tucker: THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
GOOD TO SEE YOU TONIGHT.
DEMOCRATS ARE TELLING OF THE
FAKE CRISIS.
BORDER IS IRRELEVANT, IT'S A
THE REAL CRISIS IS GLOBAL
WARMING.
IT COULD END THIS WORLD IN 12
YEARS.
THEY TELL YOU THAT EVERY DAY ON
TV.
DOES ANYBODY REALLY BELIEVE IT?
A NEW POLL SHOWS THAT LITERALLY
NOT ONE PERSON IS NOT ON TV
BELIEVES IT.
WE HAVE THE NUMBERS FOR YOU.
♪ ♪
>> Tucker: AT THIS POINT THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS ABOUT AS
MANY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES AS
IT HAS MEMBERS BUT STRANGELY
THERE'S NOT A LOT OF DIVERSITY
OF THE VIEWPOINT IN MY PARTY.
ON A COUPLE OF TOPICS, BIG
TOPICS EVERYONE AGREES.
OF THE IS INTEGRATION IN THE
VIEW FROM THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
IS NO BIG DEAL, IT'S A FAKE
PROBLEM AND IF YOU THINK
OTHERWISE YOU'RE INSANE.
>> IT IS ABSOLUTE FICTION THAT
THERE'S A NATIONAL EMERGENCY
HERE.
>> SHOWING THAT THIS IS NOT
ABOUT A CRISIS, IT'S A POLITICAL
PLOY.
CRISIS, CRISIS AND IT'S A CRISIS
THAT DOESN'T EXIST.
>> THIS NATIONAL EMERGENCY IS
COMPLETELY MADE UP.
>> A WALL IS A COLOSSAL WASTE OF
MONEY FOR A CRISIS THAT DOESN'T
EXIST.
>> EVEN IF HE DECLARES A
NATIONAL EMERGENCY IS LYING.
EVEN IF HE DECLARES IT IT WILL
BE A DECLARATION OF A FALSEHOOD.
>> THIS WHOLE IDEA OF DECLARING
A NATIONAL EMERGENCY IS
LUDICROUS BECAUSE THERE ISN'T
ONE.
>> Tucker: 'S PEOPLE JUST GET
THEIR TALKING POINTS -- OBEDIENT
LITTLE FOOT SOLDIERS THAT THEY
ARE AND WHAT THEY'RE TELLING YOU
IS THAT THE BORDER IS FINE.
I DON'T CARE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN
YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S FINE.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE REAL THREAT
IS?
IT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN'T SEE,
BUT IT'S DEADLIER THAN GODZILLA
AND VLADIMIR PUTIN COMBINED,
IT'S GLOBAL WARMING AND IT'S
GOING TO KILL US ALL.
>> THE BIGGEST THREAT TO OUR
PROSPERITY IN THIS 21ST CENTURY
IS CLIMATE CHANGE.
A CRISIS THAT COULD, AT ITS
WORST, LEAD TO EXTINCTION.
>> THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL
IS AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO OUR
COUNTRY AND THE ENTIREE PLANET.
>> WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF RUNWAY
TO BE ABLE TO FIX THIS PROBLEM.
WE NEED ALL HANDS ON DECK.
>> ON THE PLANET HAS BEEN IN
PERIL IN THE PAST, WHO CAME
FORWARD TO SAVE EARTH?
FROM THE SCOURGE OF NAZIS AND
TOTALITARIAN REGIMES?
WE CAME FORWARD.
>> IF YOU WANT TO GLOBAL CLIMATE
CHANGE SERIOUSLY, YOU DON'T CARE
ABOUT THE WORLD IN THE COUNTRY.
YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT PEOPLE.
>> Tucker: HERE'S JUST A NOTE,
JUST BECAUSE YOU STRING A SERIES
OF UNRELATED
CLICHES TOGETHER
DOESN'T MAKE IT A SENTENCE MUCH
LESS THAN IDEAL.
BUT THEY TELL YOU THIS EVERY
SINGLE DAY.
THE BORDER IS TOTALLY FINE,
YOU'RE A RACIST IF YOU DISAGREE.
THE REAL PROBLEM IS GLOBAL
WARMING.
THE QUESTION IS, DOES ANYBODY
BELIEVE THIS OR DO PEOPLE JUST
WRITE IT OFF AS THE TRANSPARENT
PROPAGANDA THAT IS?
WE HAVE A NEW POLL THAT ANSWERS
THOSE QUESTIONS.
THE POLL ASKED VOTERS WHAT ISSUE
WAS MORE IMPORTANT TO THEM, THE
NUMBER ONE ISSUE, IMMIGRATION.
WHAT PERCENT PICKED GLOBAL
WARMING?
THAT IMMINENT THREAT?
2%.
SO VOTERS KNOW WHICH ISSUE IS
RADICALLY CHANGING THEIR COUNTRY
IN WHICH IS A TOTALLY ABSTRACT
DISTRACTION AND EXCUSE FOR
ANOTHER POWER GRAB.
AUTHOR OF THE CLIMATE
CHRONICLES, INCONVENIENT
REVELATIONS YOU WON'T HEAR FROM
AL GORE AND OTHERS AND HE JOINS
US IN IT.
THANKS A LOT FOR COMING IN.
IS IT SURPRISING TO YOU THAT
AFTER 25 YEARS OF REALLY
RELENTLESS PROPAGANDA BEGINNING
IN CHILDREN'S CARTOONS ON ALL
THE WAY UP UNTIL THEEA MOMENT OF
DEATH THAT AMERICANS RATE
CLIMATE CHANGE AT 2% CONCERN, 2%
ARE MUST CONSENT TO MY CONCERN
ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE ARE YOU
SHOCKED?
>> I'M NOT REALLY THAT SHOCKED
BECAUSE I THINK -- MY EXPERIENCE
IS A MUCH GREATER PERCENTAGE OF
PEOPLE IN THEIR 20s THAT
BELIEVE WHAT'S GOING ON.
I THINK IT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T
LOOK AT EVERYTHING.
EXIT HUNDREDS OF TIMES THAT OF
ALL HE LOOKED DOWN AND ALL I WAS
TOLD WAS THE GLOBAL WARMING
ISSUE I WOULD SAY I BELIEVE IT
TOO.
CO2 IS CAUSING THIS BUT WHEN YOW
START LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE
PICTURE, THE TOTALITY OF THE
PICTURE AND YOU PUT SOME
PERSPECTIVE INTO IT, THAT THE
LAST 40 YEARS OF THE EQUIVALENT
OF SIX SECONDS OUT OF AN
80-YEAR-OLDHE MAN'S LIFE, YOU
REALIZE THAT THERE IS A VERY,
VERY DIFFERENT STORY HERE.
IT'S LIKE ONE SCENE IN THE MOVIE
FOR FIVE SECONDS DETERMINING THE
WHOLE MOVIE.
THAT'S NOT THE CASE HERE.
THE FOUNDATION YOU STAND ON
TODAY WAS BUILT YESTERDAY TO
REACH FOR TOMORROW.
IT'S THE SAME THING WITH WEATHER
AND CLIMATE, FOLKS.
WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU HAVE TO GO
BACK AND LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE
IN OUR BUSINESS AND WHAT I DO IT
WHETHER BELL IS WE NEED TO
SUPPLY ACCURATE FORECASTS FOR
ENERGY COMPANIES.
THAT INCLUDES WIND AND SOLAR,
RETAIL COMPANIES AND KNOWINGNI
WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY AND
PUTTING IT IN PERSPECTIVE AND
SAYING GUYS, THIS CAN HAPPEN
AGAIN IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO.
>> Tucker: SO I JUST WANT TO
BE CLEAR, I'M NOT DENYING -- I'M
OUT AND LEAVE METEOROLOGIST T
CLIMATE CHANGE, IT DOES CHANGE
AND IT HAS FROM THE BEGINNING
SINCE THE PLANET --
SINCE MORE PEOPLE WERE KILLED
LAST YEAR THAN T ILLEGAL ALIENS
THAT WERE KILLED BY CLIMATE
CHANGE, WHY DO YOU THINK THEY
ARE SO FOCUSED ON SCARING US AND
TELLING US WE ARE ALL GOING TO
DIE?
WHY DO THEY NEED TO TELL US
THAT?
>> I THINK HL MENCKEN, I QUOTED
THIS IN MY BOOK SAID T IT BEST,
PRACTICAL POLITICS ALWAYS TRIES
TO WHIP UP THIS KIND OF THING.
MOST OF THEM ARE IMAGINARY AND
THE URGE TO SAVE HUMANITY IS
ALMOST ALWAYS A FALSE FRONT FOR
THE URGE TO ROLLE IT.
THAT WAS A DEMOCRAT THAT SAID
THAT, HE PASSED AWAY IN 1956 BUT
FROM THAT KIND OF
BACKGROUND, FROM AN OLD DEMOCRAT
BACKGROUND, I KNEW THAT WAS.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S
INVOLVED HERE.
THAT BOOK BECAUSE THE
PURITY OF WHAT I'VE LOVED SINCE
I WAS THREE, MY DAD IS A
METEOROLOGIST.
THIS IS ALL I EVER WANTED TO DO.
I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT THIS IS
WHAT IT'S COME TO.
IT'S TURNED INTO THIS POLITICAL
FOOTBALL OR WHATEVER.
IT'S REALLY BAD.
>> Tucker: IT IS AND IT'S
CLEARLY POLITICAL, NOT SCIENCE.
THANKS VERY MUCH FOR THAT.
I HOPE YOU'LL COME>> BACK.
>> IF YOU INVITE ME BACK, I WILL
BE HERE.
THANK YOU.
>> Tucker: DONE.
CNN RAN ANTI-GUN PROPAGANDA LAST
YEAR AND THE PRIME TIME AND
CALLED IT A TOWN HALL.
GIVING SOME I KIND OF JOURNALISM
AWARD FOR IT.
A HILARIOUS STORY AFTER THE
EABRK.
>> Tucker: TO PUNISH AMERICA
FOR NOT GIVING ABSOLUTE POWER TO
YEARS AGO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
HAS DECIDED TO UNDERMINE OR
STANDS ON ITS WAY.
CRASH EVERY INSTITUTION THAT
ONE OF THE NEWEST TARGETS IS THE
ELECTORAL COLLEGE.
CENTER KAMALA HARRIS OF
CALIFORNIA SAYS WE MUST ABOLISH
IT.
>> SENATOR WARREN, ELIZABETH
WARREN HAD A TOWN HALL LAST
NIGHT AND SHE SAYS THAT SHE
THINKS WE SHOULD DO AWAY WITH
THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE.
DO YOU AGREE WITHH THAT?
>> I'M OPEN TO THE DISCUSSION.
THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT THE
POPULAR VOTE HAS BEEN DIMINISHED
IN TERMS OF MAKING THE FINAL
DECISION ABOUT WHO THE PRESIDENT
OF THE UNITED STATES AND WE NEED
TO DEAL WITH THAT.
>> Tucker: SO THAT WOULD HAVE
BEEN A PRETTY FAR OUT THING TO
SAY A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO BUT
WITHOUT QUESTION, THE VIEW YOU
JUST HEARD WILL SOON BE
MANDATORY ON THE LEFT.
IF YOU DISAGREE WITH IT ORT.
QUESTION IT YOU KNOW WHAT YOU
WILL BE, A RACIST.
ON TUESDAY, CONGRESS MEN STEVE:
DEMONSTRATED EXACTLY HOW THAT
WILL WORK.
WATCH.
>> THE COUNTRY IS DIFFERENT THAN
IT WAS WHEN THE CONSTITUTION WAS
DRAFTED AND WHEN IT WAS DRAFTED
A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH
SLAVERY.
THIS IS ALL CONCEIVED IN SIN AND
PERPETUATING SLAVERY ON THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE AND ON THE
AFRICAN-AMERICAN PEOPLE DIRECTL
DIRECTLY.
>> Tucker: SO IF YOU ARE FOR
THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE YOU ARE
FOR "PERPETUATING SLAVERY,
YOU'RE A BIGOT."
THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH, RIGHT TO
BEAR ARMS, DUE PROCESS,
SEPARATION OF POWERS, THERE WERE
ALSO CREATED WHEN SLAVERY
EXISTED.
IN FACT, SO IF THE COUNTRY.
MAYBE THAT'S WHY THE LEFT IS
TRYING TO UNDERMINE THEM TOO.
DANA PERINO COHOSTS THE FIVE,
ONE OF OUR FAVORITE PEOPLE AT
FOX NEWS AND JOINS US TODAY.
SO I'M JUST STRUCK BY HOW
QUICKLY THINGS J ARE MOVING.
IF BARACK OBAMA HAD SAID TWO AND
HALF YEARS AGO REALLY THINK WE
SHOULD GET RID OF THE ELECTORAL
COLLEGE THAT WOULD OFFEND STOP
THE PRESSES MOMENT BUT NOW IT'S
BECOME A CONSENSUS, WHEN YOU
SAY?
>> IS A LITMUSOW TEST.
NOW IS THERE A DEMOCRATIC
CANDIDATE WHO SAYING NO?
CORY BOOKER KIND OF TAP THE
BRAKES ON AND SAID I DON'T KNOW
WHAT HE WILL GET THERE.
THIS IS HAPPENING.
AND REMEMBER, ERIC HOLDER ALSO
DURING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
SUGGESTED THIS BUT THE DEMOCRATS
DIDN'T NEED TO TALK ABOUT THIS
WHEN PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS
PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE WON THE
ELECTORAL COLLEGE.
SO YOU KNOW HOW THE LEFT TALKS A
LOT ABOUT THE CONCERNS WITH
PRESIDENT TRUMP THAT HE ISOWOW
OBLITERATING NORMS BECAUSE HE'S
NOT CIVIL AND ALSO -- LOOK, YOU
KNOW HOW I FEEL, THE NICKNAMES,
AND ALL THAT STUFF BUT THE
INSTITUTIONS HAVE HELD UP BUT
THE DEMOCRATS ARE NOT TALKING
BUT ACTUALLY DISMANTLING THOSEAL
INSTITUTIONS.
AND WHAT'S INTERESTING TO ME IS
THAT THE REASON THAT THE COUNTRR
IS SET UP THIS WAY WITH
DIFFERENT STATES IS BECAUSE WE
ARE A REPUBLIC, WE HAVE A
REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT.
IF YOU DO AWAY WITH THAT AND YOU
JUST ELECT A PRESIDENT FAR BY
WHOEVER LIVES IN NEW YORK AND
CALIFORNIA AND YOU JUST ERASE
ALL OF THOSE BOUNDARIES THEN YOU
TRULY ARE FOR OPEN BORDERS.
AND YOU ARE NO THE UNITED STATES
OFTH AMERICA.
YOU ARE LIKE THE UNITED PEOPLE
OF AMERICA OR PERHAPS NOT SO
UNITED.
YOU'RE JUST THE PEOPLE OF
AMERICA.
>> Tucker: IT SEEMS LIKE IT
BE A MASSIVE DRAIN OF
POWER FROM THE WEAKEST PARTS OF
THE COUNTRY, RURAL AMERICA, THE
INTERIOR OF THE COUNTRY TO THE
COAST, WHICH ARE ARTY BRIMMING
WITH POWER AND WEALTH SO WHY
WOULD YOU WANT TO EXASPERATE
THAT?
>> ELIZABETH WARREN, ONE OF THE
CANDIDATES, SHE MADE HER
ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT BEING FOR
ABOLISHING THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE
IN MISSISSIPPI AND YOU HEARD
WITH THE CONGRESSMAN FROM
TENNESSEE SAID.AT
WAS GOING TO GO CAMPING INSS
MISSISSIPPI IF ALL MANY TO DO IS
GET THE POPULAR VOTE? T
THE OTHER THING IS, REMEMBER, WE
TALKED ABOUT THIS ON YOUR
PROGRAM, ABRAHAM LINCOLN ONLY
WON BECAUSE OF THE ELECTORAL
COLLEGE.
HE DIDN'T WIN THE POPULAR VOTE.
SO THE ARGUMENT DOESN'T ACTUALLY
LAST.
>> Tucker: DOES THAT MEAN THAT
IS RACIST?
>> I'M TRYING TO BE IRONIC.
>> Tucker: CAN I JUST ASKED
REALLY QUICK, I THINK IS REALLY
A COST -- SOME THINGS ARE RACIST
AND YOU SHOULD SAY IT AND PEOPLE
SHOULD BE EMBARRASSED TO BE
RACIST BUT IF YOU CALL
EVERYTHING RACIST, IT REALLY
DEVALUES THE TERM.
WILL ANYONE EVER STAND UP AND
SAY JUST STOP WITH THAT, WITHOUT
AN ADULT CONVERSATION?
>> LET'S SEE, WILL JOE BIDEN TO
THAT?
I LOOK AT THINGS FROM A KEY
MEDICATION STANDPOINT.
I'M LOOKING FOR THE DEMOCRAT WHM
WOULD SAY I DON'T NEED TO WORRY
ABOUT TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING
THAT MIGHT HAPPEN IN 50 YEARS IF
WE CHANGE THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE
BECAUSE THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE IS
NOT GOING TO CHANGE FOR THE 2020
ELECTION.
AND I THINK THAT THEY'RE WASTING
THEIR TIME.
WHERE WAS PRESIDENT TRUMP TODAY?
IN OHIO.
WHAT WOULD HE TALK ABOUT?
MANUFACTURING JOBS IN THE
ECONOMY.
WHAT HAVE WE BEEN TALKING ABOUT?
THIS IS WEDNESDAY.
WE'VE BEEN TALKINGNG ABOUT THE
ELECTORAL COLLEGE FOR ALMOST ANH
ENTIRE WEEK SO THEY ARE MISSING
THE OPPORTUNITIES.
BASICALLY SAYING YOU WANT TO
TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMY, GREAT,
I'M HERE.
HE'S READY TO TAKE THE SLINGS
AND ARROWSS BUT INSTEAD THEY TAK
ABOUT THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE AND
THE GREEN NEW DEAL.
SAN FRANCISCO AND NEW YORK CITY,
IT IS NOT GREAT IN ALL THE
STATES THAT YOU HAVE TO WIN IN
2020.
>> Tucker: TRIBECA, VERY
POPULAR.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
GREAT TO SEE YOU TONIGHT.
HERE ARE TWO MORE INSTITUTIONS
THAT ARE UNDER FERVENT ATTACK IN
HIS COUNTRY,, THE SECOND
AMENDMENT AND THE OBJECTIVE
PRESS.
THIS WEEK CNN RECEIVED SOMETHING
CALLED A CRONKITE AWARD YOU
DIDN'T WIN, BUTEC THEY DID AND
THEY WON FOR A FULL BLOWN
PROPAGANDA EVENT.
IT WAS A TOWN HALL ON GUN
VIOLENCE.
IT WAS A TRANSPARENT EXCUSE TO
AMBUSH ANYBODY WHO SUPPORTS THE
SECOND AMENDMENT AND ANNOUNCE
THEM ON NATIONAL TELEVISION,
WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED.
>> I THINK WE ARE ASKING ABOUT
IS THE ASSAULT WEAPONSNE BAN.
ABOUT THAT ONE, IF I BELIEVED
SO LET ME BE HONEST WITH YOU
THAT THAT LAW WOULD, HAVE
PREVENTED THIS FROM HAPPENING I
WOULD SUPPORT IT.
IT WAS NOT.
BUT I WANT TO EXPLAIN TO YOU WHY
>> CAN YOU TELL ME RIGHT NOW
THAT YOU WILL NOT ACCEPT A
SINGLE DONATION FROM THE NRA?
IN WHICH THE NRA LADY I COULD
HAVE TALKED TO BECAUSE I WOULD
ASK HER HOW SHE CAN LOOK IN THE
MIRROR CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT
SHE O HAS CHILDREN --
>> LET ME ANSWER THE QUESTION.
YOU CAN SHUT ME DOWN WHEN I'M
FINISHED BUT LET ME ANSWER THE
QUESTION.
I WOULD'VE DONE EVERYTHING IN MY
POWER TO PREVENT THAT.
>> YOU JUST TOLD THIS GROUP OF
PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE STANDING UP
FOR THEM.
YOU'RE NOT STANDING UP FOR THEM
UNTIL YOU SAY I WANT LESS
WEAPONS.
>> Tucker: SUCH DEMAGOGUES.
DANA LOESCH IS THE SPOKESMAN FOR
THE NRA.
SHE WAS AT THE TOWN HALL.
YOU JUST SAW THE TAPE AND SHE
JOINS US TONIGHT.
IT'S UPSETTING TO WATCH THAT
TAPE BECAUSE IT IS SO UNFAIR,
IT'S A MOB BASICALLY SCREAMING
AT YOU, WHAT WAS IT LIKE TO BE
THERE?
>> THANKS FOR TALKING ABOUT
THIS.
WE'VE LEARNED SO MANY THINGS
SINCE THAT TIME, RIGHT?
ESPECIALLY WITH SCOTT ISRAEL ON
THAT STAGE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DESCRIBE IT.
WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT THE
TOWN HALL WAS TAKING PLACE I
BELIEVE IT WAS ON A WEDNESDAY I
FOUND OUT THAT I WAS GOING THERE
TUESDAY, I FOUND OUT THAT I WAS
GOING TO BE ASKED QUESTIONS THAT
AFTERNOON WHILE ONAS THE PLANE D
IT WASN'T UNTIL I GOT THERE THAT
I FOUND OUT THAT I WAS GOING TO
BE ON STAGE AND THEN LATER ON
STAGE WITHOU SCOTT ISRAEL AND
ACTUALLY QUEUED ME TO WALK OUT
INTO THE ARENA TO A BLACK-EYED
PEAS SONG AND THAT SOME OF THE
FOOTAGE -- THAT'S AFTER THE
CAMERAS STOPPED ROLLING WITH
CNN.
AT WHAT CNN DIDN'T TELL PEOPLE
IS THAT THEY ALLOWED AND INVITED
POLITICIANS TO COME UP ON STAGE
AND ELECTION-YEAR.
SCOTT ISRAEL WAS ABLE TO MAKE A
SPEECH BEFORE THE SEASON BEGAN
AND ALREADY STARTED DEFLECTING
BLAME BY PUTTING IT ON ME, IT
WAS TREATED AS THIS -- I THINK
FOR RATINGS.
THEY TRIED TO STYLIZE THIS TO
MAKE IT MOST EMOTIONALLY
IMPACTFUL.
I QUESTIONED THE AFFECTS OF THEM
PUTTING IT ON THIS WAY.
THISIN WASN'T A JOURNALISTIC
ENDEAVOR.
THEY HAD THIS TOWN HALL
LITERALLY TITLED -- IT WASN
CALLED STAND UP, THE STUDENTS OF
MARJORY STONEMAN DOUGLAS DEMAND
ACTION.
THAT'S NOT A JOURNALISTIC
ENDEAVOR.
THAT IS NOT A JOURNALISTIC
ENTERPRISE.
THAT'S'S ADVOCACY.
>> Tucker: I WOULDN'T QUESTION
THE ETHICS.
THIS IS FLAT-OUT UNETHICAL, IT'S
WRONG.S
CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT IT WOULD WIN
WHATEVER DUMB AWARD THEY WON.
THEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF WHAT
THEY DID.
PEOPLE WERE REALLY HOSTILE
TOWARDS YOU.
WHAT WAS THAT LIKE?
>> I'VE NEVER BEEN IN A
SITUATION LIKE THAT.
I'VE NEVER BEEN IN A SITUATION
WHERE I HAD SOMEONE RUSH ME FROM
BEHIND AND TRY TO GET ME AND A
MEMBER OF MY DETAIL GRAB THEM.
I SHOWED UP IN GOOD FAITH TO
HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE
ISSUE AT HAND AND IT WASN'T JUST
THIS TOWN HALL EITHER.
YOU WILL REMEMBER EVEN AFTER
THIS, THAT PARTICULAR NETWORK
ALLOWED TO STAND UNCHALLENGED ON
THEIR AIRWAVES ACCUSATIONS ABOUT
PERSON AND AS A MOTHER, BUT ALSO
NOT JUST MY INTEGRITY AS A
MILLIONS OF LAW-ABIDING GUN
OWNERS ALL ACROSS THE
UNITED STATES.
THEIR INTEGRITY WAS QUESTIONED,
THERE PARENTAL GENUINENESS WAS
THEY WERE QUESTIONING THE SAME
QUESTION.
PEOPLE SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY
THOUGHT DIFFERENTLY.
WHAT THIS TOWN HALTED WAS THAT
DIALOGUE BACK BY I DON'T KNOW
HOW MUCH.
IT PUSHED DIALOGUE BACK.
IT WAS AN
EMBARRASSING DISPLAY
OF BIAS AND THEY SHOULD FEEL
ASHAMED INSTEAD OF BACK PATTING
THEMSELVES FOR THIS.
HONESTLY, ONE LAST THING, FOR
THEM TO SAY THAT THIS ADVANCED
AT THE NATIONAL CONVERSATION ON
GUN CONTROL IS LIKE SAYING THE
SALEM WITCH TRIALS ADVANCE THE
CONVERSATION ON WOMEN'S RIGHTS.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THIS WAS
LIKE.
IT WAS AN EMBARRASSMENT AND THEY
SHOULD BE ASHAMED.
>> Tucker: TO THIS DAYS AFTER
A MASS MURDER TO LEVERAGE THAT
TRAGEDY.
IF THEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED, I
AGREERA 100%.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TELLING
US WHAT THAT WAS LIKE.
DISGUSTING.
>> THANK YOU.
>> Tucker: IS NEWST
INFORMATION
TONIGHT ABOUT MARIJUANA, WHICH
ALL OF A SUDDEN IS EVERYWHERE,
IT'S TOTALLY COOL, THERE'S NO
PROBLEM WITH IT EXCEPT ACCORDING
REPUTABLE STUDY BY PHYSICIANS
COULD MAKE YOU SCHIZOPHRENIC,
AND NO BIG DEAL.
WE WILL HAVE DETAILS IN A
MINUTE.
GOOGLE EMPLOYEES WANT TO USE
THEIR POWER TO TAKE AWAY YOUR
FREEDOMS.
ALREADY DOINGLE THAT.
MEANWHILE THEY ARE EMPOWERING
CHINA ON THE WORLDAN STAGE.
♪
THAT'S JUST AHEAD.
>> SO I'M ALL FOR LEGALIZING
MARIJUANA.
>> A CALL FOR THE END OF THE
PROHIBITION ON MARIJUANA.
>> SHOULD MARIJUANA BE LEGAL?
>> YES.
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]
>> Tucker: OF COURSE THEY ARE.
IN THE MIDST OF THE GREATEST AND
MOST FATAL DRUG EPIDEMIC IN THE
HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY,
MARIJUANA IS ENTERING A GOLDEN
AGE.
DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL
CANDIDATES COMPETE TO SHOW HOW
COOL THEY ARE AND HOW MUCH THEY
LOVE IT.
TEN STATES IN THE DISTRICT OF
COLUMBIA HAVE LEGALIZED
MARIJUANA, MOST OF THE REST
TOLERATE MEDICAL MARIJUANA.
EVERY OF THE DRUG BECOMES MORE
PREVALENT.
NATIONWIDE LEGALIZATION SEEMS
INEVITABLE, PROBABLY JUST A FEW
YEARS AWAY.
A COUPLE OF COMPANIES WILL GET
VERY RICH BUT AS MARIJUANA
BECOMES MORE COMMON, WHAT WILL
HAPPEN TO THE PEOPLE WHO SMOKE
AT?
WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO ASK THAT
QUESTION BUT WE THINK IT'S
INTERESTING, SO WE DO.
A NEW STUDY IN THE BRITISH
MEDICAL JOURNAL FINDS THAT DAILY
INCREASES IN INDIVIDUALS CHANCE
MARIJUANA USE SUBSTANTIAL
OF HAVING PSYCHOTIC EPISODES OR
DEVELOPING SCHIZOPHRENIA.
NO BIG DEAL, JUST SCHIZOPHRENIA.
FOX NEWS MEDICAL CONTRIBUTOR
JOINS US TONIGHT.
COMING ON.
DOCTOR, THANKS VERY MUCH FOR
I CAN'T THINK OF A DISEASE MORE
SERIOUS THAN SCHIZOPHRENIA.
DO YOU TAKE THIS STUDY SERIOUSL
SERIOUSLY?
>> THIS WAS AN EXTREMELY
WELL-DONE EUROPEAN STUDY AND IT
LOOKED ALL ACROSS EUROPE AND IT
FOUND THREE BIG CITIES, LONDON,
AMSTERDAM, AND PARIS ALL HAD UPP
TO 50% CASES -- NEW CASES OF
PSYCHOSIS WERE LINKED TO
MARIJUANA USE.
NOW WHY WOULD THAT BE?
LET ME TELL YOU A LITTLE BIOLOGY
LESSONY HERE.
MARIJUANA IS NOT WHAT PEOPLE OUT
THERE THINK IT IS BECAUSE THE
ACTIVE INGREDIENT THAT CAUSES
PROBLEMS INS. THE BRAIN,
PSYCHIATRIC SYMPTOMS, IS NOW 20
TO 30 TIMES MORE POWERFUL THAN
IT WAS IN THE 1970s WHEN WE
WERE TEENS.
20 TO 30 TIMES MORE THC IN
MARIJUANA NOW AND THC IS WHAT'S
CAUSING ALL OF THIS.
IT'S CAUSING DEPRESSION, IT'S
CAUSING ANXIETY, IT'S CAUSING
PSYCHOSIS AND IN PLACES THAT
HAVE LEGALIZED POT, FULLYY
LEGALIZED IT RECREATIONALLY LIKE
COLORADO, LAKE WASHINGTON, LIKE
THOSE TEN STATES HE MENTIONED,
LIKEKE CANADA, THE AMOUNT OF
CANNABIS INDUCED PSYCHOSIS HAS
DOUBLED OR TRIPLED.
IT'S A REAL RAMPANT PROBLEM.
>> Tucker: SO I'M A LITTLE BIT
CONFUSED.
SO IF THIS IS REALLY KIND OF
BEYOND DEBATE FROM A MEDICAL
PERSPECTIVE IS WHAT YOU'RE
SAYING, WE KNOW THIS ISW
HAPPENING? T
>> FIRST OF ALL, IT'S BEYOND
DEBATE FROM A MEDICAL
PERSPECTIVE.
THIS STUDY ABSOLUTELY PROVES IT.
50%, AND THAT'S JUST PSYCHOSIS.
WERE NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT
ANXIETY AND DEPRESSION. A
YOU MENTION SCHIZOPHRENIA.
IF YOU KNOW WHAT'S REALLY
TROUBLING, THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT
THERE WHO ARE AT RISK OF
SCHIZOPHRENIA, WE GIVE THEM A
LOT OF REGULAR USE OF POT --
REGULAR HEAVY USE OF POT, THEY
GET A SCHIZOPHRENIC BREAK, THEY
MAY NEVER COME BACK.
WE MAY NEVER BE ABLE TO TREAT
THEM OUT OF IT WITH
ANTIPSYCHOTIC MEDICATION.
I DON'T WANT TO SCARE PEOPLE OUT
THERE.
YOU COULD STOP SMOKING POT.
YOU COULD USE ANTIPSYCHOTIC
PARANOIAIC GOES AWAY, THE
MEDICATION AND IN SOME CASES THE
SUSPICION GOES AWAY.
YOU COME BACK TOOI REALITY.
IN SOME PERCENT OF CASES, YOU
DON'T COME BACK TO REALITY AND
TO STAY AS A SCHIZOPHRENIC AND
THIS MAY BE THE REASON.
THIS IS REALLY, REALLY A
DISGRACE THAT THIS IS NOT BEING
CONSIDERED AND I'M REALLY GLAD
YOU BROUGHT IT
UP.
IT'S BECOMING A WORSE AND WORSE
PODCASTS AND YOU KNOW WHEN IT
PROBLEM, THE MORE POWERFUL
GETS ILLEGAL THAT IT GETS MORE
POWERFUL.
IT'S IN FOODS, IT'S IN JUICES,
IF IN COSMETICS EVEN IN ITS MORE
POWERFUL AND WHAT THEY SMOKE.
>> Tucker: ANYBODY WAS
OVERSEEN THE TRAGEDY OF
SCHIZOPHRENIA APPLES WILL KNOW
EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT.
THERE'S NOTHING MORE UPSETTING.
DR. SIEGEL, I APPRECIATE YOU
COMING ON TONIGHT.
THANK YOU.
>> A BIG MORNING, THANK YOU FOR
HAVINGNG ME.
>> Tucker: AN EXCLUSIVE REPORT
TONIGHT BASED ON INFORMATION
FROM THE WHITE HOUSE.
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS
PLANNING TOOR EXIST, ISSUE AN
EXECUTIVE ORDER DESIGNED TO IT
TO PROTECT FREEDOM OF SPEECH ON
COLLEGE CAMPUSES.
PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE SUPPOSED TO
PROTECT THE FIRST AMENDMENT BY
DEFINITION, IT'S IN THE
BILL OF RIGHTS, BUT INCREASINGLY
THEY TRAMPLE ON IT WITH IMPUNITY
IN ORDER TO PROTECT THE SANCTITY
OF THEIR DOGMA.
NOW THE ADMINISTRATION'S
EXECUTIVE ORDER WILL ALLOW EVERY
FEDERAL AGENCY TO DENY GRANTS TO
PUBLIC COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES
IF THEYER ARE FOUND TO CONTRAVEE
THE FIRST AMENDMENT, HOSTILE TO
FREE SPEECH, AMEN.
THE OTHER HALF OF THE EXECUTIVE
ORDER WILL DO SOMETHING
DIFFERENT.
IT WILL HELP PROTECT STUDENTS
FROM ECONOMIC EXPLICATION.
CURRENTLY THERE ARE COUNTLESS
PROGRAMS THAT CHARGE STUDENTS A
LOT INTUITION THAT OFFER NO
REASONABLE JOB PROSPECTS IN
RETURN.
SCHOOLS KNOW THAT, OF COURSE,
BUT STUDENTS DON'T KNOW WHAT A
LOT OF THEHE TIME.
NOW THE ADMINISTRATION WILL
REQUIRE ALL PUBLIC COLLEGES TO
MAKE THAT INFORMATION PUBLIC.
EVERY PROGRAM WILL HAVE TO
DISCLOSE WHAT ITS GRADUATES
ACTUALLY EARN AND STUDENTS CAN
DECIDE WHETHER A DEGREE IS WORTH
IT OR IT'S A SCAM, AS SO MANY
DEGREES ARE.
STUDENT LOANS ARE STILL THE
BIGGEST PROBLEM FOR YOUNG PEOPLE
IN THIS COUNTRY AND MORE WILL
HAVE TO BE DONE TO FIX THAT.
WE WILL HAVE MORE ON THAT TOPIC
LATER IN THE WEEK BUT THIS IS A
START.
♪ ♪P
>> Tucker: GOOGLE, AS YOU
KNOW, IS THE SINGLE MOST
POWERFUL COMPANY IN HISTORY OF
THE WORLD.
ALMOST EVERY DAY THERE ARE NEW
REASONS TO BE SUSPICIOUS OF THAT
MUCH POWER CONCENTRATED IN A FEW
HANDS.
TONIGHT WE CAN REPORT AN
INTERNAL GOOGLE EMAIL ATTEND FOR
THIS PROGRAM.
IN IT AND EMPLOYEES OF THEIL
MANAGER TOLD HIM THAT THE
COMPANY FIGHT SO-CALLED HATE
SPEECH AND FAKE NEWS BECAUSE HE
BLAMED HATE SPEECH AND FAKENESSS
FOR THE ELECTION OF
DONALD TRUMP, WHOM HE HATES.
OTHER LEAKED INTERNAL DOCUMENTS
REVEAL THAT A GOOGLE
VICE PRESIDENT BAND CHRISTIAN
VIDEO FROM ADVERTISING ON
YOUTUBE BECAUSE IT PROMOTED
CONVENTIONAL MARRIAGE.
SO WHILE GOOGLE TRAVELS OR
FREEDOMS HERE IN THE
UNITED STATES, GOOGLE ENHANCES
ABROAD.R OF TYRANTS
LAST WEEK TESTIFIED BEFORE
CONGRESS, JOSEPH DUNFORD ACCUSED
GOOGLE OF EMPOWERING CHINA BY
DOING RESEARCH WORK OVER THERE
WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY REFUSING TO
SUPPORT AMERICA'S OWN DEPARTMENT
OF DEFENSE.
HARD TO BELIEVE THAT'S TRUE, BUT
IT IS.
THANKS VERY MUCH FOR COMING ON.
TO THE SECOND FIRST, GOOGLE G
HELPING CHINA, REALLY THE ONLY
GLOBAL RIVAL WE FACE BUT
REFUSING TO HELP THE DEPARTMENT
OF DEFENSE.
AM I OVERSTATING THAT?
>> NOT AT ALL AND IT'S ACTUALLY
EVEN WORSE IN THAT A LOT OF
PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT TO
DO BUSINESS IN CHINA YOU HAVE TO
AGREE TO BASICALLY BE IN BED
WITH THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT.
YOU HAVE TO KEEP YOUR DATA ENTRY
BUSINESS OVER THERE IN CHINA.
YOU HAVE TO RESPOND TO THEIR
DATA REQUESTS AND YOU HAVE TO
HAVE THEM LOOKING OVER YOUR
SHOULDER AND EVERYTHING YOU DO
AND PERHAPS TAKING A STAKE OF
WHAT YOU HAVE.
SO ON TOP OF THAT CHINA HAS ITS
OWN SORT OF GOVERNMENT-RUN
BUSINESS OPERATIONS AND THOSE
ARE STAFFED WITH AND OWNED BY
THE CHILDREN AND B THE PRINCES F
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN POWER IN
CHINA.
THERE'S NO DOING BUSINESS IN
CHINA WITHOUT BEING INTERTWINED
CLOSELY WITH THE CHINESE
GOVERNMENT AND THAT'S WHAT
GOOGLE IS DOING.
>> Tucker: I CAN'T CONTROL
MYSELF, IF GOOGLE REALLY HAS A
CHOKE HOLD ON ALL INFORMATION,
GOOGLE HAS A DEMONSTRATED
POLITICAL BIAS, WHICH IS
OVERWHELMING.
THEY ARE BANNING THINGS DON'T
LIKE.
HOWIAS CAN WE BELIEVE THAT THE
2,020 ELECTION IS GOING TO BE
FAIR TO MEG >> HE WOULD BE
NAIVE, IN FACT I WAS A STUPID TO
BELIEVE THAT.
I THINK
THERE IS AMPLE EVIDENCE
EVEN GOING BACK TO A COUPLE OF
YEARS AGO I FILED THIS LAWSUIT,
AS YOU KNOW AGAINST GOOGLE.
SIMILAR DOCUMENTS TO THE ONE
THAT YOU MENTIONED IN THAT
EMAIL, GOOGLE HAS BEEN PUNISHING
CONSERVATIVES AND HOUNDING THEM
OUT AND CRITICIZING PEOPLE WHO
SUPPORT ANYTHING CONSERVATIVE
FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
EVER SINCE THE ELECTION SO IT'S
BEEN ALMOST THREE YEARS NOW.
AND NOW THATIN THEY'RE OPENLY --
TWITTER AND FACEBOOK AS WELL TOR
A CERTAIN DEGREE OPENLY BANNING
AND CRACKING, CONSERVATIVES
BECAUSE THEY THINK IT IS
DANGEROUS AND THEY WANT TO
PROTECT PEOPLE FROM THESE D
CONSERVATIVE IDEAS, THEY ARE
ABSOLUTELY GOING TO WIELD THAT
IN FAVOR OF DEMOCRATIC
CANDIDATES.
WE'VE ALREADY SEEN GOOGLE
BANNING ADS FOR THE PRESIDENT ON
IMMIGRATION ISSUES, MARSHA
BLACKBURN ON ABORTION ISSUES AND
OTHER ISSUES LIKE THAT.
SOMETIMES THEY ARE CALLED ON IT
AND THEY I BACK OFF BUT THAT'S
HAPPENING.
INTERESTINGLY --
>> Tucker: DO THINK THE
PRESIDENT UNDERSTANDS THAT HE
WILL NOT BE REELECTED IN A FREE
AND FAIR ELECTION UNLESS
SOMEBODY GETS A HOLD OF THE
SCHEMATIC >> I'M NOT SURE THE
WHOLE ESTABLISHMENT UNDERSTANDS
THAT.
I'M NOT SURE.
I KEEP SAYING IT.
I THINK WE WERE IN CRISIS MODE.
SO THE OLD TECHNOLOGY, THE FCC
DOESN'T ALLOW SORT OF
TRADITIONAL BROADCASTERS TO BAN
ADS FOR POLITICAL CANDIDATES BUT
THE SOCIAL MEDIA COMPANIES CAN
AND THEY DO.
WE HAVE EVIDENCE OF THAT.
SO IF WE ALLOW THIS TO CONTINUE,
IF WE ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN IN
2020 IT IS GAME OVER FOR
CONSERVATIVES IN THIS COUNTRY IN
THE COMPETITION IN OUR POLITICS.
>> Tucker: THEY ACT LIKE IT'S
JUST LET THE FREE MARKET DO ITS
THING.
THERE'S NOTHING FREE ABOUT THIS.
THIS IS SOMEBODY COLLABORATING
WITH OUR ENEMIES, STIFLING
POLITICAL SPEECH AND WE WILL NOT
HAVE A FAIR ELECTION UNLESS
SOMEONE DOES SOMETHING.
>> THE THINK TANKS IN THE
CONSERVATIVES WHO SAY THAT THIS
CONTRIBUTIONS FROM GOOGLE AND
IS PREMARKET, THERE GETTING
BIG TECH.
>> Tucker: IT'S DISGUSTING AND
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HAS DONE
MORE HONEST THAN YOU HAVE AND I
APPRECIATE THAT.
THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION MAY
SOON CLAIM ITS FIRST DEMOCRATICC
VICTIM.
WHAT DID HE DO ALLEGEDLY?
AND COULD MORE PEOPLE FOLLOW?
WE WILL TELL YOU AFTER THE
BREAK.
PLUS THE SOUTHERN POVERTY
LAW CENTER HAS BEEN COMPLETELY
ROTTEN FOR DECADES, SO WHY ARE
PEOPLE JUST REALIZING THAT NOW?
WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK.
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>> Tucker: ACCORDING TO A NEW
REPORT, FORMER OBAMA WHITE HOUSE
COUNSEL GREG CRAIG
MAY SOON FACE CRIMINAL CHARGES
STEMMING FROM THE MUELLER
INVESTIGATION.
CRAIG IS ONE OF THOSE PROMINENT
DEMOCRATS IN WASHINGTON AND HAS
BEEN FOR DECADES.
HE IS A LAWYER IN THE CLINTON
WHITE HOUSE.
AND ALSO AN UNREGISTERED
LOBBYIST FOR UKRAINE.
HE GOT THAT GIG AFTER BEING
HOOKED UP BY PAUL MANAFORT, WHO
ALSO WORKED UKRAINIAN
VEGOVERNMENT.
LIKE SO MANY FOREIGN LOBBYISTS
DID NOT DISCLOSE HIS WORK TO THE
IN WASHINGTON, CRAIG APPARENTLY
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, EVEN AS HE
WAS MAKING MILLIONS FROM
UKRAINIAN OLIGARCHS.
THE FOREIGN REGISTRATION ACT
1939 LAW THAT UNTIL RECENTLY
WENT ESSENTIALLY UNFORCED.
OKAY, SO IT LOOKED LIKE BOTH
SIDES WILL NOW HAVE FARA
INDICTMENTS.
BUT LET'S NOT LIE ABOUT IT,
FEELING TO REGISTER A FOREIGN
LOBBYING IS A CRIME, THERE ARE A
LOT OF FELONS WALKING FREE
TONIGHT IN THE NATION'S CAPITAL.
AND WILL ANY OF THEM FACE
ELINDICTMENT?
ALL OF THEM SHOULD.
VIRTUALLY NONE OF THEM EVER
WILL.
THAT'S NOT AN ARGUMENT AGAINST
UPHOLDING THE LAW, WE SHOULD,
BUT SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT IS NOT
JUSTICE, IT'S PERSECUTION.
THAT IS TRUE EVEN WHEN THEY
INDICT SOMEONE YOU DON'T LIKE.
LAST WEEK THE SOUTHERN POVERTY
LAW CENTER'S FOUNDER WAS
CANNED UNDER MYSTERIOUS
CIRCUMSTANCES AND THEE
ENEMIES OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
AS HATE GROUPS.
RACIST, SEXIST, BIGOTS WHO
SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK
IN THIS COUNTRY OR MAKE A
LIVING.
THEY SHOULD BE DISAPPEARED.
IT DOES SEEM FITTING THAT
APPARENTLY HE WAS FIRED MADE
ALLEGATIONS THAT HIS OWN
ORGANIZATION WAS RIFE WITH
RACISM AND SEXISM.
BUT IT TURNS OUT THIS ISS S NOG
NEW.
ALL THE WAY BACK TO 1994,
"MONTGOMERY ADVERTISER," THE
PAPER IN TOWN, REPORTED HOSTILE
RACIAL CLIMATE INSIDE THE SPLC.
THIS GROUP HAS BEEN ROTTEN FOR
YEARS.C.
WHY ARE PEOPLE JUST NOW
NOTICING?
TYLER O'NEILL JOINS US.
TYLER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
COMING ON.
I GUESS WE'VE KNOWN FOR 25 YEARS
THE SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER
HAS RACISM IN ITS OWN OFFICES
BUT WE TREAT IT LIKE IT'S
LEGITIMATE?
>> THAT IS AN EXCELLENT
QUESTION.
THE STORY IS REALLY, REALLY BAD.
YOU HAD 13 BLACK FORMER
EMPLOYEES OF THE SPLC
INTERVIEWED AND 12 OF THEM SAID
THEY WITNESSED RACIST INCIDENTS
IN THEIR TIME THERE.
AND THREE OF THEM CALLED THE
ORGANIZATIONK PLANTATION
FOR ITS BLACK WORKERS.
>> Tucker: DID THE SPLC PUT
ITS OWN LIST OF HATE CRIMES?
>> NO, BUT THEY DID
FIRE OF THE COFOUNDER.
THE INTERESTING THING IT WAS NOT
JUST "MONTGOMERY ADVERTISER" IN
1994.
TWO YEARS AGO AND IN 2017, WE
HAD FORMER EMPLOYEES GO ONTO THA
WEBSITE GLASSDOOR AND TALK
ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCES FACING
RACIAL DISCRIMINATION.
THERE ARE APPARENTLY 100 LAWYERS
AND ADVOCATES OF THE SPLC AND
ONLY FIVE ARE BLACK.
BLACK EMPLOYEES WORKED THERE 12
YEARS AND YET, NONE OF THEM
ELEVATED TO SENIOR LEADERSHIP.
>> Tucker: I'M NOT SURPRISED.
LIVING ACCUSING OTHER PEOPLE.
WHAT I AM SURPRISED BY COME WITN
FACT NEWS ORGANIZATION
"NEW YORK TIMES," CNN, MSNBC --
AND TAKE PRESS RELEASES AND
REPORTED AS NEWS.
AT THIS POINT, KNOWING WHAT WE
KNOW, CAN THEY CONTINUE TO DO
THAT?
>> IT IS A BIASED
LEFT-WING SMEAR FACTOR.
IT'S GONE BACK DOWN AND THEY
SUED THE KKK AND MADE LIFE
BUT TODAY, THEY LIST
BETTER FOR BLACK AMERICANS.
CONSERVATIVE AND CHRISTIAN
ORGANIZATIONS AS HATE GROUPS,
AS YOU MENTION, AND THEY HAD TO
PAY HIM $3.375 MILLION.
>> Tucker: OBVIOUSLY AN
ANTI-MUSLIM BIGOT,
ACTUALLY A GREAT GUY AND A
VALUABLE VOICE IN THIS
CONVERSATION.
BUT HOW CAN NEWS ORGANIZATIONS
GET AWAY WITH PRETENDING THEY
ARE A CREDIBLE SOURCE OF NEWS?
>> IT IS THE LIBERAL
BIAS.
THEY CAN'T SEE IT.
THAT IS ONE OF THE POSITIVE
THINGS SPLC HIRES MORE BLACK
LEADERS, THERE IS A POSSIBILITY
BECAUSE BLACKS TEND TO BE MORE
CHRISTIAN AND BELIEVE
EVANGELICAL BELIEFS AT A HIGHER
RATE THAN WHITES DO.
THERE IS A CHANCE NEW BLACK
LEADERS COULD KNOW THAT
CHRISTIANITY IS NOT ANTI-LGBT
HATE.
>> Tucker: POSSIBLY AND HARD
TO REDEEM SPLC,>> BOTH WHICH ARE
CITED RELENTLESSLY BY THE PRESS
WHICH REALLY ISN'T TRYING.
>> AND COMPANIES, TOO.
>> Tucker: SO NICE TO SEE YOU,
TYLER, THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
>> THANKS, TUCKER.
>> Tucker: CONGRATULATIONS, THE
RAPPER ZUBY A MAJOR WOMEN'S
SPORTS RECORD AND DID IT WITHOUT
TRAINING AND WITHOUT BEING A
WOMAN.
A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, HE
TWEETED THIS, "I KEEP HEARING
BIOLOGICAL MEN DON'T HAVE
PHYSICAL FILMIC PHYSICAL
STRENGTH IN 2019, SO WATCH ME
DESTROY THE BRITISH WOMEN'S DEAD
LIFT RECORD WITHOUT EVEN
TRYING."
YOU KNOW WHAT HE DID?
HE DID JUST THAT.
WHY IS THAT AA RECORD?
HE EXPLAINED, "I IDENTIFIED AS A
WOMAN LIFTING THE WEIGHT BUT
DON'T BE A BIGOT."
PREVAILING WISDOM, IN FACT,
MANDATORY BELIEF SYSTEM THAT YOU
MUST ADOPT OR BE PUNISHED, HE IS
ACTUALLY RIGHT.
IF GENDER IS FLUID, AS
DEMOCRATS CLAIM, ZUBY IS A
WEIGHT LIFTING CHAMPION.
DON'T BE A BIGOT, SHUT UP WHERE
WE WILL HURT YOU OR LAUGH AT IT.
WHICH IS EXACTLY THE RIGHT
RESPONSE.
DON'T GET MAD.
LAUGH IN THEIR FACES.
THEY DESERVE IT.T.
WE ARE OUT OF TIME.
WE WILL BE BACK TOMORROW NIGHT
AT 8:00 P.M.,