欢迎回来
-Welcome back, buddy.
译制@吟游诗人Vincent
你最近出演了两部很有分量的好片子
You're in two giant movies
一部接着一部，都要跟观众见面了
coming out, back-to-back,
大家都在热议
that everybody's… talking about –
一部是跟马丁·斯科塞斯合作的
The Irishman,
《爱尔兰人》
with Martin Scorsese...
是的
-Yeah.
另一部是《小丑》
-...and also Joker
没错
-Yeah.
跟华金·菲尼克斯搭戏
-...with Joaquin Phoenix.
陶德·菲利普斯指导？
And is it Todd Phillips directing?
是的，陶德·菲利普斯导演
-Yes, Todd Phillips.
说到《小丑》
-But in Joker –
我最想问的就是……
Well, first of all,
跟华金合作感觉如何？
how was Joaquin to play with?
他简直完美，是的
-He was terrific, yeah.
他棒极了
He was great.
他确实很厉害
-He's good, right.
但是在电影里面……
And in the film –
我是不太喜欢他对待 穆瑞·富兰克林 的方式（Shot in the face）
-I don't like what he does to me, but...
从预告里我差不多能看出来
-'Cause from what I've seen, the trailer, what I've seen,
你演的是……
you kind of play –
演的是一个……
I mean, you kind of play –
一个脱口秀主持人嘛
Well, you play a talk-show host
这不禁让我想起了某人……嘿嘿
who reminds me of...
我正纳闷是谁嘞
-I wonder who.
我是说
-I mean,
都没人跟我打电话
I didn't get a phone call...
你也没来找我取经
...I didn't get any research.
我想问一下，演一个脱口秀主持人难不难？
Answer me -- was it hard to play a talk-show host?
并不是特别难，还挺有意思的
-No, it was fun.
虽然我对剧情展开不是太满意吧
I wasn't happy the way it turned out, but..
得
-Oh, yeah, yeah, all right
那我就看看电影前半段好了
Maybe I'll only watch the first half.
好嘞
All right, yeah, yeah, good.
那我们再来聊聊《爱尔兰人》吧
Let's talk about The Irishman.
哇！
Wow!
我都不敢相信……为了这部电影，你跟老马已经谈了很久，都好几年了
I can't even -- You've been talking about this film for years now.
是呢是呢
-Yeah, yeah.
之前就有剧照啊之类的，但这都多久了？
-The last couple appearances you've been on… This took a long time.
大概在开拍两年以前……
-Yeah, I think I started – I looked at the book when we started shooting
我就开始看这部小说
about two years ago,
到电影完成差不多花了10年
and it had been 10 years –
所以……从我读这部小说开始……
so 12 years from now --
一眨眼的功夫12年就过去了
that I had started reading the book.
我之所以记那么清楚是因为当时看书的时候我做了标注和笔记之类的……
'Cause I make a note when I read it just to remind myself how long ago it was
来提醒自己究竟过了过长时间……
and notes and everything, so…
这本书叫做
-And the book is called
《我听说你是漆房子的》
I Heard You Paint Houses.
对
-Right, right.
刚开始我不知道……我是说如果我听到漆房子……
-Now, I did not know -- Like, if I hear that, I go –
我就会以为说，“哎？我听说你会漆房子哎！”
“I heard you paint houses?”
然后你答 “是的，我漆房子的”
You go, “Yeah, I paint houses.”
没错
-Yeah, yeah.
这其实是一种……我应该解释一下吗？
Well, it's a -- Should I say what it is?
恩，您讲讲吧
-Yeah, I think you should.
漆房子其实是一种黑帮的行话，意思是做掉某人……
-It's an expression of killing somebody --
当一个杀手……我还要自己去……
Being a hit man, and then I do my own...
自己去处理善后工作之类的……
I think it's repair work, too, or my own...
销毁证据
-Clean-up.
差不多
-...clean-up.
但它还有一层意思就是……就是要清理现场……
And that means he cleans up the mess, too, and...
还有毁尸灭迹一条龙服务
disposes of the body and all that.
我之前可是一点儿不知道
-I did not know that at all.
简直吓了一跳
I was like, “Wow!”
“‘我听说你漆房子’原来是这个意思？”
“That's what I heard ‘you paint houses' means?”
对
Like, yeah.
所以说这部片子意义非凡
So, I'm watching this thing.
能够让你跟老马再度聚首
First of all, so it's you and Martin Scorsese back again
这是你们两位合作的第九部电影
This is your ninth film together.
也是本周五要举行的纽约电影节开幕电影
It's opening up the New York Film Festival this Friday.
是的
-Yes.
我非常喜欢你们经常参加的这些电影节，尤其是本地的一些
-I love that you always do the festivals, the local festivals.
你们都非常重视……也非常受欢迎
You always take care… You're great with that stuff.
《爱尔兰人》本周五会作为纽约电影节开幕电影与观众见面
So, it's opening this Friday
能够在一部 马丁/德尼罗 电影里
And I just --To see you guys back, it's everything you want
看到你们重新合作夫复何求啊
in a Martin Scorsese/Robert De Niro film.
里面有马丁粉所期望的一切要素
It is every single thing that you want.
有暴力场面
There's -- There's -- There's violence,
但同时剧情也引人入胜
but there's also -- There's a good story,
顶级配乐
there's good music.
马丁电影里吃饭的场景还挺多，也非常还原历史，非常准确
He always throws in a little food stuff in there that is very exact.
电影里面那个卢姆热狗摊……之前我都不知道
That thing about Lum's Hot Dog which I didn't know anything about.
Lum's是一家位于佛罗里达的美国家庭餐馆连锁店，在几个州还设有分店。
它于1956年由斯图尔特和克利福德·S·珀尔曼在佛罗里达州的迈阿密海滩创立
有机会我肯定要研究一下……
I got to get into it.
当时他们以10,000美元的价格购买了卢姆（Lum）的热狗摊。
现在我们来聊聊卡司吧
Also, let's just talk about the cast.
你——
You –
对我而言，卡司里有你一个就够了
I'm happy with just you. I am so happy with just you.
真的，有你就行
That's all I need.
别人我都不需要
I don't need anything else.
别的演员我也不看
I don't need any other actors.
光你一个人就能撑起整部片子
You could just be in the whole thing.
但是，乔·佩西又回来了！！
But then, you got Joe Pesci back.
我简直惊了
I'm like, “What?!”
我超爱你跟乔·佩西的！
I love you and Joe Pesci!
喜欢看你们俩的戏
I love you guys together.
之后阿尔·帕西诺也入伙了
Then, Al Pacino comes in.
再后来，哈维·凯特尔也参演了
Then, Harvey Keitel shows up. All right.
全都是老戏骨了
This is all the heavy hitters.
还有就是……
But I was thinking about it.
乔·佩西，老马和你，你们仨是老搭档了
You, Joe, and Marty all worked together before…
但是阿尔之前还没有同时跟你们三位合作过是吧？
Al has never worked with you three at the same time.
的确
-No.
你们有没有欺负人家？
-Did you guys bully him a little bit?
哪儿会啊
-No, no, no.
这个项目我们已经谈了很多年了，该怎么拍……
We've been talking about this for many years, doing it,
我非常高兴最后终于能开拍了
so I was, I mean, I -- I was very happy that it all could finally happen.
你们的化学反应超棒
-You guys have great chemistry.
平时你会跟阿尔出去吗？
Do you hang out with Al Pacino at all?
不太会，但我们俩是很多年的朋友了
-No, but we have been friend for years.
当然偶尔还是会一起出去一下
And sometimes we've hung out together, yeah.
你们有没有为同一个角色竞争过？
-Did you ever compete for roles?
呃，当然了，这是避免不了的
-Well, how can we not?
想出演同样的角色时常有的事
We're gonna be up for the same thing at certain times.
这挺正常的
That would be normal.
恩
-Yeah.
当时教父1筹拍的时候
-I mean, when Godfather 1 was getting ready
弗朗西斯·科波拉试镜了好多演员
and Francis was seeing a lot of actors
当时几乎纽约所有的演员都想参演这部片子
every actor in New York was looking, you know, to be in it
去试镜啊之类的
and testing for it and so on.
但弗朗西斯希望阿尔出演迈克尔
But he wanted Al.
我的话呢，当时也参加了试镜
And in my case, aside from auditioning for it,
我想出演另一个角色
then I wanted the other part
吉米·凯恩的角色——桑尼
the Jimmy Caan part – Sonny
我知道当时已经确定由阿尔出演迈克尔……
Because I knew Al was cast…
但是科波拉也想让吉米来演桑尼
But he wanted Jimmy for that, too.
之后阿尔就去演《教父》了
But then Al went to do Godfather.
他之前试镜了《我的子弹会转弯》，也选上了
He was cast in The Gang that Couldn't Shoot Straight.
之后我就替他去演《我的子弹会转弯》了
Then I was in The Gang that Couldn't Shoot Straight,
结局算是皆大欢喜吧
so it sort of turned out good.
之后你们在《教父2》里面还是有合作了
-And then you were in together in Godfather 2,
你演的是年轻时的教父科里昂
where you play a young Don Corleone.
说来也巧，1972年的时候
Oh, interesting --my mom and dad
当时我爸妈在曼哈顿看了《教父》
went to go see Godfather in Manhattan in 1972.
也可能是在布鲁克林看的
Or maybe in Brooklyn in 1972
他们看完出来，报纸头条就是
When they left, they looked at the newspaper and the headline said
“乔·加洛被杀”
Joey Gallo Rubbed Out.
乔·加洛，又名“疯子乔”，曾经是纽约科伦坡犯罪家族的成员
是的
-Yeah.
那是在1972年
-That was 1972.
《爱尔兰人》的背景设定差不多就是在那个时候
And that's what this film, The Irishman, is kind of around.
许多家族都卷入了电影里描述的事件
There's so many families involved and things.
大家准备好，到时候一定要去看
Get ready.
绝对不会辜负大家期待！
It is everything you want.
我简直吓坏了
I was freaking out.
这些故事我差不多都知道，但我还真不知道乔·加洛是在……
I was like, “Wait. I know all these stories. I didn't know Joey Gallo got hit in...”
是在翁贝托餐厅被杀的
-Umberto's, yeah.
是的，就在小意大利区
-Umberto's, in Little Italy.
我之前都不知道
I didn't know any of this stuff.
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