to primetime the stage is set for the
Democratic debates in Detroit you just
saw live the drawings here on CNN so
what are the key matchups what are the
stakes
we have primetime primary politico's
here with the scoop and the latest layer
has been put on this president's lasagna
of lies he says he wasn't happy to hear
his echo last night he now says he tried
to stop his supporters when they were
making the racist chant of send her back
I have to laugh because it is an absurd
suggestion it's on tape and it's
throwback Thursday so let's do a little
rewind shall we
and is Anthony scare emoji gonna be
excommunicated from the GOP for telling
the truth about the president's racist
attack did the party really just punish
him for being candid the former White
House communications director is here so
what do you say let's get after
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all right the president says the chant
he inspired bothered him and he tried to
stop it I think I did it
it really was a loud I disagree with it
by the way but it was quite a chant and
I felt a little bit badly about it but I
will say this I did and I started
speaking very quickly he can say it but
it doesn't make it true you know what
makes it true the tape roll it Omar has
a history of launching vicious
anti-semitic
screens
you know how you can tell when I don't
like something because I go like this
ridiculous 13 seconds
he sat satisfied he betrayed zero upset
he made zero effort to stop the chant he
doesn't agree with it he literally said
go back to where you came from that's
where the chant comes from so here's the
real question why is the president
playing at both ways what is the play
for Democrats here to play to advantage
big night big names a stead hundun alla
Alexandre Rojas washy he Dali and Paul
Begala welcome welcome good to have you
back good to have you back so I can't be
wrong about what I just said begala
the truth is he liked the chant he was
satisfied by the chant he didn't try to
stop the chant he is lying
why is he having it both ways everybody
wants to try to have things both ways
I'm sort of surprised because usually he
just doubles down that's usually his
only move is like you call me a racist
I'm gonna say more racist stuff so I
found that noteworthy but it is to me
what's interesting is how to had a
decent people in both parties respond
the Republicans so far really
disappointed us right and the Democrats
I think they have to guard against
rising to the bait and thinking a lot
today about President Obama President
Clinton the only two Democrats since the
Second World War when the white house
twice Clinton his son is segregation in
the south who then of course supported
civil rights Barack Obama of course
black president they talk about race lot
but they didn't rise to the bait in
other words I think what they would do
it's contextualise it not just condemn
it you have to condemn it but think
contextualizing why is he doing this he
is using division as a diversion with
somebody like this they didn't deal us
Ted with somebody who was playing race
in their face now he can back away from
it but you know what that is I'm gonna
feed you your outrage and then I'm gonna
say to the rest of you I'm not that
outrageous exactly but how do you how do
you deal I don't let me just say one
thing I was in North Carolina last night
and before you had the big moment of
center back that we all know the vitriol
in that building was palpable you have
folks screaming traitor you had folks
screaming treason it was building to
that moment and then you had the
president sit and that kind of satisfied
as it was rising up I think that is a
little different than what we've seen
those other presidents have to deal with
because this is someone who is reveling
in this kind of white identity politics
and grievance and someone who is stoking
that kind of so explicitly and I I think
for anyone who's been following this and
for me on the trail it's jarring to go
from the Democratic primary world where
they're kind of talking in policies
about how they're gonna you know speak
to voters of color here and there and
kind of about the racial wealth gap in
things and then you go to this kind of
setting where they're also talking about
race but they're using it in a much much
different more divisive and galvanizing
fashion yeah which presents Democrats
with a challenge how do you meet him on
that kind of a bigger plane exactly of
what America is gonna be exactly and
I've gotten some heat from the Democrats
saying well why do you talk about what
he's doing so because it matters because
that's what this election is gonna be
about he said you're not gonna hear my
plan on healthcare till after the
election for a reason he wants to
litigate identity in this country who we
are who we are and what we accept what
we reject I don't see the Democrats
playing to advantage here what am I
missing because Democrats always bring a
butter knife to a gun fight and the
Republicans are bringing a rocket and
kill everyone including their own base
look you have to take this on the
offensive because there are real-life
repercussions to this I'm a person of
color when I get told to go back home my
entire life I was like wow this is
racist and hurtful but I did not know
Chris until this week that they were
just simply disagreeing with my
political and economic ideology right
and what we're witnessing let me be very
subtle here is the death rattle of white
supremacy in America and in Europe
they're playing for all the marbles
President Trump is not doing 3d chess
president Trump is a racist he has a
history of this since the 70s he ran on
the Obama birther conspiracy right 2018
midterms he could have run on the
economy she could have run on jobs he
says no I know my base where do you run
on the Jews are funding the caravan of
immigrants and rapists so this is him
playing to his base and the only reason
why he pulled the back was like huh
maybe the optics of an entire chant of
white people yelling send her home send
her home where I sit there look during
and bathing in this looks bad certainly
not trying to stop it yeah I'm not sorry
I said but at all and why did he pick
these why isn't he going after Biden and
as much as he's going after brown women
and you know when I again people get
upset when I put it that way but you
tell me why he picked these four people
and why he keeps talking about them he
talks about these four more than he does
anybody who's running against him
what are the Democrats do about that
well I think that they need to embrace
it right I think go on the offensive and
talk about our vision because the
reality is is that you know the
progressive ideals that these four
Congresswoman represent and let me take
a step back because I think that Fox
News and Donald Trump have been
targeting these women they've at least
been targeting aoc and the reason why is
because these are for women of color and
they're trying to point to these white
voters and say you have nothing in
common with black and brown people doing
it so much because he is the picture of
the waspy white is the right one to
harness the outrage and say they want to
take me out and replace me with these
people and absolutely and they wanted to
your point of distraction I think there
weaponizing racism I think it's true
that he is a racist but they're also
weaponizing it for a political purpose
and that's to distract you know blared
to make white voters and black and brown
voters think that they don't have the
same problems that they're facing when
the reality is is that there's one party
the Democratic Party that is going to
hold this president accountable that's
going to hold Wall Street accountable
that's going to you know actually do
something a bad bet all the Democrats
are holding each other accountable more
than they're doing it they are and it's
not just the primary process I know it's
ours to say leave these people alone
when you've been going at it with them
as well within the party but it's the
point that Alexandra made is the most
important one it I believe it deeply
it's my life experience growing up in
the south it's their strategy is to
divide white working people against
people of color so they can rule from
above this is the demagogue strategy
around the world but certainly in
America in the American South and we
should be Democrats should be calling
that out and objectifying it as the
strategy because then what you're doing
you're not demonizing everybody 62
million of us who voted for Donald Trump
I don't mean me but 62 of of our fellow
Americans 62 million or instead
contextualizing explaining to them a lot
of people voted for Barack Obama and
then Donald Trump right I think rather
than condemn what we ought to do is
contextualize the way Alexander
just did we have we should be telling
him you have a lot more in common with
those kids marching in Ferguson then you
realize you're both getting screwed over
by a system that's unjust and rigged
against you that's what I want to hear
Democrats saying I don't think they will
in the debate I think they'll probably
go after each other for tactical reasons
but the strategies without that there
was a problem because the Democrats
always get hijacked by the Republican
base the Republican base that will never
vote for them and I will say the
Democrats used to be Democrat base but
they always chase they always chase this
mythical moderate moderate unicorn voter
who drinks a real coffee in a real state
and as an ordinary American while
ignoring the base that actually comes
out to vote 2012 Obama he gets only 39%
of white voters important doesn't get
the majority but he brings out the base
black women Latinos asian-americans new
voters young people women and look at
Donald Trump he's attacked women Muslims
black people immigrants but they don't
hide I said last word for you then we'll
go to break and I need you guys to stay
because I want to talk about these
matchups and what we expect and don't
expect in the debate but I don't see
them using this the Democrats to bring
out that base and say this is your
alternative and all of you are potential
victims of this vitriol for continues
when does that happen I think it happens
as we move closer towards a general
election matchup right now they have an
incentive to talk about each other in
this large field to kind of separate
themselves from one another
but the what is looming right like what
yesterday reminded me of was no matter
what Democrats are saying to
differentiate each other from themselves
they need they say for them to be
successful needs to unite against a
Republican party that is United around
Donald Trump's ideology so the question
of who Republicans are was settled in
2016 of reaffirmed in 2018 for Democrats
to be successful they need to have that
they have to have this kind of internal
identity fight but they would have to
come together and have that type of
motivation because Republicans are
motivated this is a great group please
stay
why big news tonight in this 2020 we now
know the lineups for the next
presidential debates on CNN we know
who's on which night we know how they're
situated now the big question is who's
going to play to advantage and who was
in or a long night
we'll debate it all next wash Ollie and
Paul Begala so how do you feel about the
lineups Rojas I mean I think it's
incredibly it's gonna be an exciting
night both nights like you just pointed
out on the second night you have Biden
in Kamala Harris where she had an
incredible moment on stage but on the
first night you have to progressive
champions that I think are gonna push
the rest of the field that is offering
moderate more centrist positions you
know to be bolder and to actually have a
vision and a plan for the future most to
lose on the stage Tuesday night is
Bernie Sanders true or false
I'd agree I think that Bernie Sanders
was put in a tough position by the kind
of rise of Elizabeth Warren in the
second quarter she out raised him that
puts him in a position where I don't I
know as someone who covers her rallies
her supporters are someone who are
looking at him and I think they're gonna
want some separation between the two of
them I think both nights have very
interesting kind of things at the top
when we look at the second night Biden
and Harris I mean the the Joe Biden
world was personally wounded by that
first debate felt that she had crossed
me across a personal line but I also
think on that second night look at Cory
Booker as well because you have those
folks in the second night were looking
specifically at black voters Joe Biden
holds the lead among those people on
both those nights you have you have two
sets of groups who are playing in the
same electoral lane which causes some
interesting matchup and you can't stay
that way you can't stay friends this is
a competitive process I know they say it
but it can't stay that way do you think
Booker makes a play for Harris's lane
because only one of those two have a
chance of getting the ticket
unfortunately that's still our politics
of culture in this country idea that you
know they will keep going and be part of
this cooperative the whole time just not
practical
I think people learn from the first
debate who was a rising star Kamala
Harris she went after the top dog not
only should you go at the top dog she
dropped on social media that beautiful
photo that narrative and right after
that narrative photo fundraising email
so how do you win
I think cory booker goes after Biden I
think Biden still give me the top dog I
think you're gonna do a rematch between
Biden Harris I'm really curious to see
how Biden positions himself because he
was too defensive in the first round and
at the same time too weak so we have to
get this this maneuvering right with
Harris and Harris I think is gonna
double down eat away at the voters and
in the
first night I think isn't be really
interesting I think Budaj is gonna
separate himself from Warren and
standard and say I am your moderate
choice come to me America I just got 25
million I'm in the top five I'm not as
crazy leftist as these guys I'm your
centrist so those are the two matchups
I'm really interested and if you're Pete
if you're a strategist for Pete the
first thing you're saying to him I mean
you've got to get in the game with
people of color that's the heart and
soul of Democratic Party and he sees
here's the cool thing for Pete a whole
lot of those people of color are also
moderate Democrats just nominated the
most diverse field they have ever
nominated and the most moderate and I've
seen the last 10 or 15 years so he can't
go to that he doesn't have to sacrifice
his own views if he is more moderate as
suspect he is you think this field is
the most moderate the house candidates
and Democrats just run a landslide with
were the most diverse and the most
moderate and I think that's a really
good model for the Democratic Party into
going into there's the thing it's a
debate okay and you know we were talking
a little bit during the breaks always
the best conversations during the break
by the way is that it's not about policy
I would argue that the campaign isn't
really about a policy at all especially
this one I think the state of play is
going to be an intense identity conflict
but you got to have the one-liners and
go the weird thing last time was Biden's
great at that
and he didn't in that debate he stunk at
one-liners and Harris was peppering him
so who do you think this place to
advantage for why mystically yeah well I
mean I think these public moments of
accountability are not good for bi and I
Biden I think that he's shown to really
struggle I think with with candidates
like contrasting like Kamala Harris who
I think comes off as extremely energetic
and I think especially women of color
are really excited to see a powerful
black woman commanding her space on
stage I don't know if we will in this
debate I think it's hard right because
you got a little gender politics also
it's not that women have challenges and
how they how they project strength
without being seen some men have a
challenge in terms of how they take on a
woman also although the
the president didn't stop burning
burning took some shots at Hillary you
know I don't give a damn about your
emails I mean who else I would have said
that was cool you know it was cool for
Clinton it wasn't cool for Bernie Bernie
should have played that differently
according to better after he said I mean
you can use policy to make stylistic
differences I think the power of what
Harris did in the first debate was used
that bussing moment to really talk about
electability to show strength to going
at Joe Biden in that first debate I
would bet that Bernie Sanders uses
Medicare for all for two reasons one the
contrast himself with Biden but to
subtly hit at senator Warren they that
community has felt that she has been a
little soft on that issue and that they
are stronger it's offending the kind of
merits of that and they want to pin her
down on that I would say in that first
debate they used the policy to make a
kind of stylistic contrast not only with
the front-runner in the race but with
the progressive side let's play Warren's
game for a second you know so you're
Bernie and you say I'm all-in I'm on all
she has to do is say yeah me too me too
I just think I can get it done and I see
attacking corporations is something that
I'm actually an expert at you've talked
about it a lot you know and you're like
talking about it I've done it that's how
I got into this game so where's where's
the advantage of that I think Bernie has
a lot to lose because Bernie is your
he's coming off as the one-trick pony
and he owns it he goes yep I've been
consistent on message that's my Bernie
Sanders impression thank you and he says
that's who I am I'm a one-trick pony I'm
consistent on my message you know what
you get worn I think going back to your
original thing about policy and
personality if this is where she can
shine speaking me like look I'm not that
rusty a Harvard professor I'm from the
Midwest and I made it and I can
understand how the system can change and
policies can be put in place to a woman
like me can be empowered to be a senator
and that's where she comes in with the
personality and the policies which are
progressive and I I reject this madness
reject this I reject this whole moderate
centrist play I think it's nonsense I
think we just saw right now the House
passed what $15 minimum wage four years
ago that was seen as wait for it is that
we're radical is that win a national
election I think right now if you look
at the policies attacking climate change
I think yeah people are interested in it
at least something better than Trump
compare yourself to Trump Texas versus
you
it states right now to abolish Obamacare
right hey you think this is too extreme
well guess what let's go out the
offensive for once the Republicans are
going to demolish Obamacare so I think
they can unite I think can have
personality I think you have policy and
I'm gonna say this again go on the
offense with your progressive policies
especially compared to Trump's rally we
have policies that will unite all
Americans we might disagree here and
there but I'm gonna help you if you're
Latino if you're women if you're middle
class or lower class my policy is on
health care on economy on wages are much
better than Donald Trump compare and
contrast who's the extremist but they
are if they should say some of that not
all that anything but yes who's helped
win two or three presidential election
oh we had to drop in well it does matter
we have a I think of fanatic in the
White House now I think it's an
existential threat to our country and so
all I care about your democratic is who
can't beat him and when you tell
Americans for example that Donald Trump
is in court trying to take away their
protections for pre-existing conditions
they get angry if you tell them which no
Democrat has Donald Trump has proposed
the largest cuts in Medicare and
Medicaid in history no Democrat ever
says that because they're so busy
talking about how they want to outlaw
private health insurance which is a
total loser I don't understand this
focus on Trump he is I think the worst
thing that ever happened this country
and he's right there
damaging everything that Democrats
believe in it instead of doing that
they're playing some sort of purity game
to be the most leftist I think it's
crazy
absolutely I don't think that's true at
all I think you have people like
Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders that
have the clearest records of actually
holding Wall Street accountable of
challenging multinational corporations
protect you know standing up against bad
trade deals and unfortunately the more
centrist positions of people on stage
have been for those things so I think if
we actually want to show the American
people that were serious about not just
holding Donald Trump accountable but
deeper than that the billionaire class
that is continuing to weaponize a with
the GOP and Fox News weaponizing racism
you have to hold these people
accountable you can't just say uh you
know I'm too scared I got to play
politics a little bit you have to if
you're gonna say that you want to hold
this president accountable you have to
forward with all these roots no but you
have to talk about actually no but you
have to actually talk about
forming the lives of working people in
this country and that means abiding she
believes that the policy is the hook to
the big idea
I believe the night is always about the
big moment they can be the same they
rarely are who will be smart enough to
get their people positioned in time to
start their own chance when they're up
there having a moment on the stage
that's how you win a debate you guys are
great may we please do this again so
this is our kind of talk about what's
going on in terms of on the left now on
the right my suggestion is simple don't
be a sucker when you're listening to
this president all right he can tell you
that he tried to stop that racist chant
he started it that's the fact we showed
you it on tape now why is he having it
both ways because that is the best
tactic for him and moving the culture
war and he doesn't want to own all right
but what's gonna happen in 2020 I have a
very shrewd political mind here who says
you know why the president's doing what
he's doing with race because he has to
really why answer next
and her back garbage now that's like an
eternity on stage or on television all
right it's not like 13 seconds is a
little bit of time it's a lot of time
and he said nothing
why because clearly he thinks he
benefits from division he sees it as a
winning strategy Ron Brownstein the man
I call the professor because he is smart
says there is a practicality to what is
going on here good to have you on prime
time as always brother help me
understand this I see this as a matter
of choice you say not so much right yeah
no I agree it is you had exactly right
when you started this is what he wants
to do but to a much greater degree than
the White House or most Republicans will
acknowledge by this point it is also
what he has to do and the reason I say
that is because he has already diverged
so far from the other path that was
available to him that he can't get back
to it I think anymore what was the other
path the other path was the Ronald
Reagan question are you better off than
you were four years ago and he will
raise that question you know throughout
the next you know 15 18 months but the
fact is that the racial division the
divisiveness the gender remarks the
volatility that he's already done has
alienated Chris as we talked about
before too many of the voters who would
answer yes to are you are are you better
off than you were four years ago
even if they say yes to that they will
still say no to him in polling they are
about a fifth of the voters who say that
they approve of Donald Trump's handling
of the economy and cNN polling ABC
Washington Post polling in Quinnipiac
polling still say they disapprove of him
overall and or that they are going to
vote for Joe Biden so he has through the
racial divisiveness that he's already
and the other kinds of divisiveness that
he's engaged in I believe he has already
narrowed the pool of swing voters who
had come to him because of the economy
and the paradox is that it forces him to
constantly try to turn out more of his
base by ginning up more racial anxiety
even at the price of potentially pushing
away yet more of the swing voters who
say that he you know who are satisfied
with the way the economy is going I
think are they were nothing has moved so
far from the other path that I don't
think he can get back to it anymore
enough people who will who that message
will appeal to to win uh it's right at
the margin right I mean it in the
popular vote almost certainly not in the
electoral college
possibly here's that here's the Delta
here's the reality that the most
important swing voters in the electorate
I believe and I think many people in
both parties believe our voters who are
satisfied with Trump's performance on
the economy because that's around fifty
percent which is what an incumbent needs
but dissatisfied with his overall
performance which takes him down to 43
44 45 which is a much more marginal
situation that Delta between the voters
who are satisfied with the economy but
not with his overall performance I think
is the margin between something that's
right on the you know or under the edge
for him or even below for something in
which he's in a more traditional
position for any common president why
did captain double down hedge on what
happened last night and try to lie and
say that he didn't even barely he barely
hedged I mean he did what he did with
Jake Tapper and David Duke he in March
2016 he sends the message loud and clear
and then he embroiders are on a tiny bit
of a disclaimer so that he flummox the
media and forces us to talk about
imagine everybody who needed to hear him
say go home or send her back I heard it
and you know that moment I think is a
defining moment because as I said over
the last couple days imagine that scene
playing out in any other arena of
American life of twenty high school
students stood around a classmate on a
football field and he jab and said send
her home what would happen to them if 20
people did it in a lunchroom at your job
around one of their co-workers or in the
corporate boardroom if a CEO said to
their senior vice president you know go
back to where you're from because you
disagree with me what would happen to
them I I was exchanging with general
Hertling last night what would happen in
the military if that happened if a
platoon leader allowed that to happen we
all know the answer and the only reason
you know the the the enormous magnitude
of how unusual this is and how out of
bounds is is for kind of contemporary
American life I think
only you could only miss it if people
don't call it out and I think we need to
hear from business leaders about what
they would do if someone said this in
their own
place and the question is why aren't we
hearing more playing on the offense from
Democrats about exactly this when are
they going to embrace that this election
is going to be about identity politics
not about the most left well health care
plan but I got a jump Ron your piece is
coming out in the Atlantic tomorrow
morning in the morning all right so this
will be the you know the really thick
version of this to get in there and
understand the theory that Ron is laying
out to you and what the variables are
it is promising to be a good this is not
just strength its weakness here Ron
thank you very much as always the
professor and so look and how are we
seeing it made manifest so it's creating
pressure on the Democrats to figure out
how to counter it right which I see is
opportunity but it's also creating
pressure on the Republicans of what to
do with it
this president so popular in his party
so what happens when you speak about it
ask this good-looking guy on your screen
his former communications director only
said what is obvious only said what any
common sense demands you say about what
he said and Anthony scaramouche II I
think he just paid a price for it within
his party we'll hear from him next fines
have been straddling a fine line this
week no they haven't they haven't been
straddling any damn line they've been
ignoring the obvious this president
tweeted something that was racist and it
was racist on purpose but they don't
want to risk the wrath because his pull
is strong in the party and they are
worried about not benefiting from his
glory and you know who just felt the
bite one of the people who was best to
him in all of this Anthony scare emoji
former comms director good for you by
the way first of all where are you what
do you like having a hot dog on the
street no I'm outside the hunt and fish
club you know I think they stop serving
lobster in there because of what
happened today so I'm out here talking
to you hmm you can't even get into your
own restaurant so you say what is my own
you say what is obvious what he said in
that tweet was racist you say you don't
think he's racist but what he put in the
tweet was racist what's the difference
well he's not racist because I I spent
enough time with him nobody's not racist
but here's the problem if races think
you're racist okay one of my best
friends who happens to be
african-american said to me this morning
if racists think that you might be
racist you may want to change your view
of things you may want to reposition
yourself so he's not racist but he's got
to stop what he's doing I listened to
the last segment I predict that he will
stop what he's doing I predict that
today was a turning point for him where
he was walking back the chant stuff and
saying that he was not happy with it I
think he will settle down crowds in the
future and I think he will stop that
rhetoric it's just too divisive and
exactly he's doing it because it's
divisive work the other side is he
thinks it's okay the only thing that'll
work let me ask you something just to
give us a little bit of context but did
you talk to him that will lead to
electoral Sue's no I haven't talked to
him did you talk to the White House
today he has no I haven't talked to the
White House today you know they're a
bunch of fraidy-cats inside the White
House there's a lot of people inside the
White House trust me to think that it
was wrong but they're just too afraid to
admit it or even going it was off and
say hey you got to walk that back
because I'm wondering why he walked it
back at all because because I do think
that very smart people that like him are
getting in his ear and are telling him
don't do that because that's electoral
suicide in places like Pennsylvania and
places like Michigan where you have
hundreds of thousands of people that
just got there that legalized
immigration and they are being told by
people that are racist go back to where
you belong like they told my grandmother
and they possibly told your grandmother
so absolutely I don't wanted to talk
about that though honestly because I
actually think he did the right thing
today and I disagree with some of the
panelists that you just had on I do
think he's gonna stop it and go in the
right direction from here I hope I'm
right because he's the leader of the
free world he's the president has never
done it your suggestions and and okay
but he's got to do it because those are
the ideals of America okay that's the
fabric of America it is a blended fabric
and is what Lincoln said about America
it being the last best hope for mankind
so we've got to do that what does it
tell you that that combination that
Republican Club gave you the boot over
what you said what does it tell you
about your party Brady they're well
they're a bunch of fraidy-cat babies
that
I'm calling them all day - lobster Nazi
you know they don't know lobster for you
like no soup for you
the guys at complete baby okay and he's
a fraidy-cat and what I said to the guy
from Politico is totally true
you can't call something what it is it's
not a loyalty test Chris if I throw an
orange on the floor and I say okay
listen go on television and tell me
that's an apple if you don't do that
you're disloyal to me that's not a
loyalty test you can't break your
principles and your integrity and your
personal history because you like
somebody oh I got to prove to you that
I'm loyal to you by calling an apple and
orange or an orange and apple I'm never
doing that man I came from nowhere
okay I'm living the American dream I'm
not doing that and what I'm calling on
my fellow Republicans the elected
officials tell the truth but let's move
on because the very good news for the
president is he's got an amazing economy
he's creating an economic miracle in the
country he's helped the African American
and Hispanic American community
tremendously by what he's saying we're
way better off than they were not by
what he's saying but the policies have
been great so tone down what you're
saying I think the message from the Oval
Office today was great and the
trajectory is great and go with that
okay and by the way I say it as a guy
who likes him okay these idiots in Palm
Beach oh my god he said one syllable
that the president may not like we got
to cancel his appearance okay good for
you guys but you're a bunch of big
babies you lack courage okay and you
lack integrity you understand what I'm
saying
I understand what you're saying but you
got to tell that to the Lindsey Graham's
in your party if I if I well come on
he's said to aim higher give the Senate
a little bit of a break please in a
tough spot
he called this he called this president
azim officials and a bigot and now he's
saying that he's getting a raw deal come
on he was fos one of those time specs
they're politicians Chris I'm not a
politician I'm a business person I'm
doing millions of dollars hundreds of
millions of dollars of transactions on
my word so I'm not going to call an
apple an orange or an orange and Apple
when they're just not doing that so ask
me to question I'll tell you the honest
answer now aiex honestly believe that
people got to him today
they message to him he walked it back
and I'm optimistic that we're gonna
start tomorrow and a better path for the
president and I predicted he'll win the
reelection it it's a and he should win
reelection he's done an amazing job for
the country but tone down the language
that's gonna light people up in a way
that's divisive in the country don't do
that well look and the thing is he's
doing it on purpose not like he's making
mistakes but Anthony Scarah Moochie I
appreciate your candor you may be out on
the street with your party but I know
that your heart is in the right place as
much as I hairs getting out on the
street my hair's getting frizzy because
I know you jealous of my hair you also
tell people you're 510 so in terms of
one you tell the truth and one you don't
you know I'm I'm 510 on my license okay
let's just put it that way that's
probably the only place run five just
interests Anthony scaramouche II thank
you thank you for doing this for me
tonight get back inside before you get
too wet be well it isn't that
interesting the guy who was his coms
director and sure he's defended him he's
pissed a lot of people off with what he
said in defense of this president but
this is so obvious that there was only
one answer for him the gift now he's
being punished by his party such an ugly
contentious week in Washington that had
turned the house chaplin's morning
prayer into what I saw is like a
potential exorcism look at this in your
most holy name I now cast out all
spirits of darkness from this chamber
spirits not from you may your spirit of
wisdom and patience descend upon all so
that any spirit of darkness might have
no place in our midst gee I wonder what
he was talking about he told us later he
said look you know it's about this
racism what's going on and how about all
the people who are listening and they're
on the right side of the aisle when they
have done nothing you literally had to
have your chaplain say he wanted to
remove the darkness you know what the
scene should it look like what's
bringing de lemon I was expecting more
of a scene like this one before power
and then they finally get her down in
the bed they strap her down yeah but
things don't get much better after that
that's when the peas come out of our
mouth and it was so ugly that the
Chaplin has to say a prayer to remove
the spirits of darkness from the House
chamber we need it we need prayer to
remove the spirit of darkness from the
country right now because this is an
ugly period and this is nothing to do
with supporting and not supporting the
president well the president did was
awful
what he said was awful and there's no
one to blame but him especially with
people chanting you know send her back
that's all because the president tweeted
what he tweeted absolutely now but I
mean that chant those people had that in
their hearts without the president he
just brought it to the fore yeah
that's it but look I mean I don't know
if you got to hear Ron Brownstein his
piece in the Atlantic comes out tomorrow
he's making a play here cuz he thinks
it's how he wins and I don't make a
distinction you know Anthony scaramouche
II will say I don't think he's racist
but he's saying racist things he's got
to stop mine my feeling is this you say
racist things you wind up owning the
philosophy of racism as well but even if
you didn't I think you're worse because
you're playing to advantage with
something that you know is ugly and you
don't even have the excuse of ignorance
that got you there yeah listen you can
say things that are racist sometimes and
not be racist and you can be ignorant of
them you can say things that are
homophobic sometimes doesn't mean that
the whole of you is raised as a whole
but if you say it often enough I think
it defines you so we have to stop saying
I don't know what's in his heart I don't
know what's in your heart Chris I know
the kind of person you are I know what
your actions are I know what your words
are and so from that I can only surmise
the kind of person you are and who you
are and so if you walk and talk and act
like a racist the problem then chances
are you're a racist this president has
said a whole lot of things that are
racist he's done a whole lot of things
that are racist and then he pretends he
didn't say it he pretended that he tried
to stop the people from saying what they
said in that crowd yesterday or the day
before or the night before the latest
layer of lasagna of Lies what do you got
coming to your face
I've got lists okay so you do know grant
woods grant woods is a good friend of
John McCain and do you remember when the
woman stood up at the John John McCain
he said she didn't trust Obama
right he was a Muslim who's an error
error but whatever she said and he said
right there I got to stop you all the
President had to do was say stop we're
not doing that we can vote her out but
we're not gonna do that sort of thing
he didn't do it it took him 13 seconds
so he shouldn't sit there today and lie
and pretend he tried to stop it so we're
gonna have grant woods on we're gonna
talk about the difference between two
men
these two men not that we really need to
discuss we know one is a really great
man the other one we'll see I'll see you
in a second yeah so look we're saying
this to you a hundred different ways
through reporting and through
perspective what this president is doing
is intentional and it's because he
thinks he needs to do it to win so let's
look at that but also let's look at who
really needs to be called out here the
enablers another argument that I should
not have to make but it is needed next
you