確保媒體的多樣、獨立與自由
是美國民主最重要的課題
─比爾?莫耶斯
（美國參議院） （退伍軍人事務委員聽證會，2006年）
繼續今日退役軍人補助的聽證 Continuing today's hearing on future VA funding...
退伍軍人事委會被召回 the Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs...
is called back to order.
讓我們聽聽下一位證人的說法 We'll hear from our next witness.
麻煩起立並舉起右手 Will you please stand and raise your right hand?
我很抱歉 My apologies.
麻煩舉起右手就好 Please raise your right hand.
你是否願意向上帝發誓 Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give...
你將在此發表的證詞均屬事實？ this committee will be the truth, the whole truth...
and nothing but the truth, so help you God?
我發誓 ﹣請說出你的名字 I do.
Please state your name.
亞當格林，退役美國陸軍一等兵 Private First Class Adam Green, United States Army, retired.
格林先生，據說你準備了一份聲明？ Mr. Green, I understand you've prepared a statement?
是的 I have, sir.
這將會被列入紀錄 You may enter it into the record at this time.
主席與各位委員 Mr. Chairman, members of the Committee...
首先感謝給予我發言的機會 I want to thank you for the opportunity...
to speak with you today.
我服役… I served in the military f...
抱歉，能不能… I'm sorry, if I could just...
當然，請繼續 Sure, go ahead.
謝謝你 Thank you, sir.
我一向很喜歡數字 I've always liked numbers.
當我的思緒難以匯整 Whenever I have a hard time wrapping my head around...
數字讓我看得更清晰 something, I find that numbers make things clearer for me.
它能讓我釐清事物的起因 They help me understand decisions that are made...
並理解事物的結果 and the impacts of those decisions.
因此我想從1百40萬這個數字說起 So, if it's all right...
I'd like the start with the number 1.4 million.
這是目前我國從軍的總人數 That's the number of men and women...
who are currently serving in our military.
而5百55 555...
則是我們遭到恐攻之後 that's how many days passed before we invaded one country...
轉而入侵他國前所渡過的天數 after having been attacked by another.
19是我入伍的歲數 19... is how old I was when I enlisted.
3是我們降落伊拉克後 Three is the number of hours that passed from the time...
座車遭到炸毀前經過的時數 I arrived in Iraq to the time our transport...
was destroyed by an I.E.D.
接著是6 And then there's six.
這是切斷我脊髓的炮彈碎片的英吋數 That's the number of inches the piece of shrapnel was...
that severed my spinal cord.
數字唯一的缺點是缺乏人性 The only problems with numbers is they can be impersonal.
但各位的決定卻足以改變 A decision you made had a life-changing impact on me...
我和這些軍人們的一生 and a lot of soldiers like me.
我並非軍事專家 Now, I'm not a military expert.
也對地緣政治不甚瞭解 I don't know a whole lot about geopolitical affairs.
我只是一個普通的美國人 I'm just an ordinary American.
我明白之所以能在此發言 And I understand that you've asked me here...
是因為你們有問題想問我 because you all have some questions for me,
但如果可以的話 but if it's all right, I'd like to ask all of you a question.
我也想要問你們一個問題 但如果可以的話 but if it's all right, I'd like to ask all of you a question.
到底為什麼會發生這種事？ How the hell did this happen?
我的同胞們 My fellow citizens, at this hour...
此刻，美國與盟軍 American and coalition forces are in the early stages...
正進行解除伊拉克武裝的前期作業 of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free...
為解放該國人民並守護世界安全 its people and to defend the world from grave danger.
（震撼真相） 此計劃定名為「震懾行動」 The start of the campaign called Shock and Awe.
震懾 ﹣震懾行動 Shock and Awe.
是的，震懾行動 - Shock and Awe. - Shock and Awe, indeed.
巴格達正解除空襲警報 Air raid sirens are going off in Baghdad...
大規模推翻海珊的行動正式生效 The massive military operation...
美軍共發射六百枚巡弋飛彈 to topple Saddam Hussein is now in effect.
Firing 600 Cruise missiles...
並出動戰機 and every type of war plane in the American arsenal.
美軍戰力令人生畏 A fearsome display of American military might.
本次進攻規模可說是前所未見 The scale of this attack...
is considerably higher than anything we've seen before.
我方正以巡弋飛彈攻下建築物 We're taking out whole buildings...
美國戰機照計劃大規模轟炸巴格達 with these Cruise missiles.
U.S. war planes unleashed...
to promise massive bombardment of Baghdad.
共三千枚戰斧巡弋飛彈 3,000 Tomahawk Cruise missiles...
衛星導引精密炸彈 satellite-guided precision bombs, laser-guided bombs.
以及雷射導引炸彈 I think the citizens of Baghdad know...
巴格達想必領教了震懾行動的攻勢 以及雷射導引炸彈 I think the citizens of Baghdad know...
exactly what the Pentagon means by Shock and Awe. 巴格達想必領教了震懾行動的攻勢
exactly what the Pentagon means by Shock and Awe.
在科威特與伊拉克邊界 Just over the Kuwait-Iraq border...
我們看到大量軍隊進駐 we watched as columns of troops moved into the country.
他們前往巴格達但受到阻礙 They're well on their way to Baghdad.
我們一直關注著新聞 They have met resistance.
We can't leave the television...
那些坦克和直升機 every tank, every helicopter... is that my son?
眼下巴格達僅一步之遙 是否由我的兒子駕駛著？ Now Baghdad is within striking distance...
just a few short miles away... 眼下巴格達僅一步之遙
just a few short miles away...
美軍正在進行最後攻堅 as U.S. troops make their final push forward.
我們要殲滅他們！ We want to slaughter them all...
這些入侵者必將命喪伊拉克！ those invaders, their tombs will be here in Iraq.
若海珊還活著 If Saddam Hussein is alive, he is quote...
他已經失去軍事和政治控制權 "Not in control of his military and of his government."
這是接下來大規模行動的初步階段 These are opening stages of what will be a broad...
and concerted campaign.
行動也許會比預期的更加漫長困難 Could be longer and more difficult than some predict.
幫助伊拉克建立一個團結、穩定 And helping Iraqis achieve a united, stable...
和自由的國度 and free country will require our sustained commitment.
需要我們不懈地努力 和自由的國度 and free country will require our sustained commitment.
一旦完成使命 And you can know that our forces will be coming home...
我們的軍隊便會凱旋歸來 as soon as their work is done.
（本片改編自真實事件） 我們的軍隊便會凱旋歸來 as soon as their work is done.
（本片改編自真實事件）
前進！繼續前進 Keep moving! Keep moving! Let's go!
我們要被帶去哪？ ﹣安靜，低頭 - Where are they taking us? - Shut up. Head down.
閉嘴，否則我就斃了你 Keep your mouth shut or I'll blow your fucking head off.
知道了 ﹣你是軍人嗎？ - All right, all right. - Are you a soldier?
我是記者 ﹣哪家報社？ - Journalist. - Who do you work for?
奈特裏德報業 ﹣沒聽過 - Knight Ridder. - Never heard of it.
你該多看點報紙 You should read more.
你叫什麼名字？ What is your name?
強納森蘭德 Jonathan Landay.
再見，強納森蘭德 Goodbye, Jonathan Landay.
演練結束 Exercise complete.
你剛才經歷的是「灰人」訓練 What you have just engaged in is called The Gray Man Exercise.
（險境訓練，馬薩納滕，維吉尼亞州） 剛才是一次極度失敗的示範 And what you have just witnessed...
is a colossal failure of that exercise.
記者若是被挾持 If a journalist is captured...
恐怖分子可能會留你活口 terrorists may keep you alive...
並用你來交換資訊或贖金 in hopes of getting information or exchanging you for a ransom.
但若你應變不當，他們會殺了你 But if you give them a reason to kill you, they will.
這個訓練將教你避免引起挾持者注意 The purpose of this exercise is to teach you...
how to avoid drawing the attention of your captors.
這便是所謂的「灰人」 Hence the name, Gray Man.
你能幫我鬆綁嗎？ Can you untie me?
這能保你一條小命，懂嗎？ This could save your life one day, you understand?
廢話！我去過十一個戰區 I do, I've been in 11 war zones, I've been shot at...
我被槍擊、被俘虜過 I've been held captive, I take this very seriously.
我很認真看待這一切 我被槍擊、被俘虜過 I've been held captive, I take this very seriously.
但你不趕快幫我鬆綁的話 But if you don't untie me right now, I may lose my job.
我工作就要不保了 但你不趕快幫我鬆綁的話 But if you don't untie me right now, I may lose my job.
到時我淪落成了拖地工 And I'm fairly certain that none of this training...
is going to be very useful...
這些訓練都沒屁用 when I'm mopping the floor at Staples.
（第二架飛機撞擊世貿中心）
（2001年9月11日） 今早，位於曼哈頓下城的… Both of the twin towers...
雙子星大樓 the World Trade Center in New York's lower Manhattan...
在20分鐘內相繼遭飛機撞毀 have been struck by planes this morning within 20 minutes.
北塔首先遭到撞擊 First, it was the North Tower that was struck...
建築物兩側被撞出一個大洞 with a gaping hole left in two sides of that building.
天啊 ﹣20分鐘後 Good God.
第二座大樓，即世貿中心南塔… 20 minutes later, the second building...
the second tower in that World Trade Center complex...
我們應該叫伊麗莎白留在學校 I think we should keep Elizabeth in school.
你說得對，別讓她嚇到 Yeah, no, I think that's a good idea.
Why freak her out, huh?
有訊號後我馬上打給艾裏和珍妮佛 And I'll call Ali and Jennifer as soon as the phones open up.
愛你 ﹣愛你 - I love you. - I love you.
好 Okay.
為您播報，我們已與五角大廈通話 We should tell you that...
we have gotten calls from people...
並由他們告知了現場的爆炸情況 who live and work around the Pentagon who have told us...
that they have seen something...
that they have described as an explosion.
這是之前一直未能獲得的消息 This is information we have not been able to confirm.
（哥倫布，喬治亞州）
起來了 Get up.
抱歉，爸 Sorry, Dad.
昨天足球賽拖得太晚 Monday Night Football went long.
把店裏清乾淨 Let's clean this place up.
紐約世貿中心遭到飛機撞擊 Trade Center here in New York...
have been hit by airplanes.
華盛頓五角大廈則發生大火 In Washington, there is a large fire at the Pentagon.
五角大廈人員已經撤離 The Pentagon has been evacuated.
您可以看到 And there is, you can see, perhaps, the second tower...
第二座大樓、前塔正在崩塌 the front tower, the top portion of which is collapsing.
太可怕了 Good Lord.
今晚大家都需要喝一杯了 Lot of people going to need a drink tonight.
軍人可以免費 Soldiers drink free.
現場情況難以描述 There are no words.
All federal office buildings now...
目前華盛頓聯邦辦公大樓均被淨空 All federal office buildings now...
目前華盛頓聯邦辦公大樓均被淨空
all federal office buildings in Washington, D.C. 目前華盛頓聯邦辦公大樓均被淨空
are being evacuated as we speak to you now. 目前華盛頓聯邦辦公大樓均被淨空
are being evacuated as we speak to you now.
我們正目睹一場浩劫 We are in the middle of an extraordinary catastrophe.
我們只能說，若您剛收看節目 The most important things to tell you if you just joined...
一場縝密駭人的恐怖攻擊 in is that what has all the makings of an extraordinarily..
well-planned terrorist attack on both Washington and New York
今早發生在華盛頓及紐約 well-planned terrorist attack on both Washington and New York
（奈特裏德報業，華盛頓分社） 紐約世貿中心雙子星大樓遭撞毀 has taken place this morning. 今早發生在華盛頓及紐約
（奈特裏德報業，華盛頓分社） 紐約世貿中心雙子星大樓遭撞毀 has taken place this morning.
The Trade Centers here in New York...
the two World Trade Center towers have collapsed...
after being hit by planes.
我是奈特裏德報業的約翰沃科特 Yeah, this is John Walcott from Knight Ridder.
他在嗎？ Is he there?
好，麻煩跟他說我晚點再打 Yeah, okay, well, tell him I'll try him back later.
謝謝 Thank you.
剛跟我老婆通電話 I just spoke with my wife.
她和孩子們都不敢出門 She and the kids are afraid to leave the house.
他們在那邊做什麼？ What are they doing over there?
他們在看白宮 They're watching the White House.
看會不會遭到襲擊？ To see if it gets hit?
對 Yes.
老天，你快回家去吧 Oh, Jesus. All right, go home to your family.
順便提醒同事離窗戶遠一點 And tell your colleagues that maybe they want to stay away...
謝謝你，約翰 ﹣嗯 from the windows, okay?
- Thanks, John. - Yeah.
好，好的 Okay. All right. Okay.
好
目前研判是國際恐怖組織所為 Their working thesis is that this is overseas terrorism...
並非國內的恐怖分子 not domestic.
當局鎖定賓拉登，因其觸角最廣 Attention will quickly turn to the bin Laden group...
because it has long tentacles.
很少其他組織能進行此等規模攻擊 There are very few others that could have pulled this off.
我們要派人去紐約嗎 Are we sending somebody to New York?
肯摩爾已經前往報導華爾街了 Ken Moore at Suvu was already up there covering Wall Street.
國務院那邊如何？ What's going on over at State?
國務卿人在秘魯 Powell's in Peru.
他們正想辦法讓他盡快回國 They're working on getting him home as soon as possible.
好，我們必須追蹤總統的動態 All right, what we need to do is track the President.
鎖定白宮上層，找出誰該為此負責 Track his top people and find out...
who's responsible for all this.
最好有更多線人和單位現身說法 We need as many sources at as many agencies...
證明我們目前的資訊全數屬實 to go on the record and tell us all what we know has to be true.
蓋達組織！是蓋達組織 Al Qaeda! Al Qaeda! It's Al Qaeda.
一定是蓋達組織 It's definitely Al Qaeda.
你穿那什麼鬼？ What the hell are you wearing?
呃，我老婆想逃難 Well, the wifey wanted to evacuate...
把貓和鑰匙都裝車帶走了 but she locked the cat and the keys in the cars.
我只好騎腳踏車來 So, I biked in.
We need to know how they pulled this off.
我們要查清整件事情 We need to know how they pulled this off.
如果有人想回家的話 Anybody needs to go home to their family...
隨時離開沒問題 feel free to do so.
我剛從家裏出來 Just came from the family.
上工了！ Let's get to work.
我是約翰沃科特 It's Walcott.
我們的同胞，我們的生活 我是約翰沃科特 It's Walcott.
就在今日 Today, our fellow citizens, our way of life... 我們的同胞，我們的生活
以及我們的自由遭到攻擊 our very freedom, came under attack in a series... 我們的同胞，我們的生活
以及我們的自由遭到攻擊 our very freedom, came under attack in a series...
是一連串蓄意且致命的恐攻 of deliberate and deadly terrorist acts.
亞當，把酒給我 ﹣是 Adam, hand me the Jameson, please.
給你 ﹣謝了 Yes, sir. Here you go.
Thank you, son.
本店請客，各位 ﹣謝了 It's on the house, gentlemen.
爸說他們想待到多晚都行 Thanks.
Dad's saying we're staying open as late as they want.
他們一定很害怕 They must be scared.
他們是軍人 - They're Rangers. - They're boys.
他們只是孩子 他們是軍人 - They're Rangers. - They're boys.
我們擁有強大的軍隊 Our military is powerful and it's prepared.
並已做好萬全準備 我們擁有強大的軍隊 Our military is powerful and it's prepared.
我們已針對幕後黑手展開搜查 The search is underway for those...
who are behind these evil acts.
我已下令投入所有情報與執法資源 I've directed the full resources of our intelligence..
and law enforcement communities to find those responsible...
好將主事者繩之以法 and to bring them to justice.
距離恐攻發生已經33小時 It's been 33 hours since the terrible...
and unprecedented attack on the United States.
大規模搜救與調查行動 There is, as we've said, an enormous search and rescue...
正在如火如荼地進行中 operation, and enormous and intense criminal investigation.
（2001年9月12日） 這只是災難的開端 And we're just beginning to understand...
the extents of the catastrophe.
我累到彷彿整個月都沒睡 I feel like I haven't slept in a month.
再這樣下去大家都會累成殭屍 It's going to be a bunch of zombies running this town.
你知道追捕賓拉登的初步計劃嗎？ What do you know about the preliminary plans...
to go after bin Laden?
（國務院官員） 我目前無可奉告 I don't have anything to give you on that yet.
好吧，我軍何時會前往阿富汗？ Ok, well, how long before we're on the ground in Afghanistan...
預計在那裏停留多久？ and how long do they project we'll be there?
聽著，我也很想知道答案 Look, I'm trying to get answers to the same questions you are.
但我只能說 What I can say is, most of the talk this morning...
今早會議內容並未提到阿富汗 hasn't been about Afghanistan.
那會議內容是什麼？ Well, what's it been about?
伊拉克？ Iraq?
我國務院的線人從國防部得知的 I got it from a source at State who got it from the Pentagon.
跟恐攻有關嗎？ In connection with the attacks?
這些人根本就在瞎扯淡 Crackpot theories from people who don't know...
是國防部長說的 what the hell they're talking about.
It was Rumsfeld.
真的？ ﹣對 Really?
顯然國防部很多人認為該進攻伊拉克 Yeah, apparently, there's a lot of people over at Defense...
that think this had to be State-sponsored.
不只是國防部長 I mean, not just Rumsfeld, there's also that smug...
一堆政策委員會的混蛋也是 不只是國防部長 I mean, not just Rumsfeld, there's also that smug...
還有那個「黑暗王子」？ son of a bitch at the Defense Policy Board... 一堆政策委員會的混蛋也是
還有那個「黑暗王子」？ son of a bitch at the Defense Policy Board...
理查裴爾 the Prince of Darkness?
就是他，還有那個保守派的 - Richard Perle. - Right. Perle.
…保守派的狗屁新美國計劃 And that neo-con over at the Project...
for the New American whatever the fuck...
新美國世紀計劃，比爾克裏斯托 New American Century, Bill Kristol.
就是那個混帳東西，克裏斯托 That giant butthole, Bill Kristol.
他的魔爪一定早就伸進來了 And he's got to be creaming his little jammies over this.
這些人從97年開始就想逼退海珊 Yeah, these think-tank boys...
have been trying to push out Saddam Hussein since '97.
這些人天真地以為 They have this crazy theory that if they can just stick...
若能讓西方民主根植於中東 這些人天真地以為 They have this crazy theory that if they can just stick...
a Western-style of democracy in the Middle East... 若能讓西方民主根植於中東
中東就會奇蹟似地變成民主世界 it's going to magically proliferate... 若能讓西方民主根植於中東
中東就會奇蹟似地變成民主世界 it's going to magically proliferate...
進而以色列就能受到保護 and wind up protecting Israel.
不得不佩服他們的天兵思想 You got to give them credit for creative thinking.
他們活在象牙塔裏 It's Ivory Tower crap.
他們到底哪來的想法 I mean, in what world do they think that Osama bin Laden...
覺得賓拉登和海珊聯手？ and Saddam Hussein hatched this thing up together?
來查證這些混蛋是否真想栽贓伊拉克 Let's find out if these dickweeds...
are serious about Iraq, okay?
聽著，我沒說跟伊拉克有關 Look, I'm not saying there's a link to Iraq...
我老闆也沒說，這只是聽說的 and neither is my boss.
誰說的？ This is just something we're hearing.
From whom?
（美國參議院助理） 你要問誰說的還是消息哪來的？ Who told me or where is it coming from?
你選一個答 Take your pick.
國防部的人 ﹣副總統那邊呢？ Someone at the Pentagon.
In the Vice President's office?
這些都只是推測 It's just theories.
有參議員透漏新資訊嗎？ Are there any Senators talking to anyone...
saying anything different?
國務卿反對攻打阿富汗以外的地方 I know Powell's objected...
to going into anywhere other than Afghanistan.
走開 Go away.
讓我問一個問題就走 One question and I'm gone.
我不會公開發言 I'm not talking to you on the record.
來自中情局的匿名線報 Anonymous source, intelligence community.
不能說出我的名字 You can't use my name.
絕不會 Never have, never will.
不能透露我的單位 Or my agency.
我發誓 Pinky swear.
一個問題 One question.
你們是否認為伊拉克與恐攻有關？ Are you looking into an Iraqi connection?
你們指的是誰？ Who's the you in that question?
美國人嗎？ Are we in the United States?
確實有些人這麼想 There are some people.
我們單位的人嗎？ Are we in my agency?
至少目前沒聽說 Not that I'm aware of.
我個人嗎？ Am I, personally?
完全不 No way.
好，問題的的第二部份 ﹣不行 Okay, the second part to the question.
謝謝 No.
Thank you.
你在國會圖書館共事的人 So, no one you work with at the Library of Congress has ever...
也不曾指出海珊與蓋達組織有關？ found a link between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda?
（中東專家） 跟我共事的人並不這麼認為 No one I work with would expect to find a link.
那麼就你所知 So, as far as you know...
沒有實證顯示賓拉登與伊拉克有關？ there's nothing substantial to tie Iraq to bin Laden?
連間接線索都沒有 There's nothing even circumstantial.
會將海珊這樣世俗的領導者… To lump together a secular leader like Saddam...
與極端分子賓拉登聯想在一起 with an Islamic extremist like bin Laden is simply...
就是完全不瞭解穆斯林世界 to have no understanding of the Muslim world.
這說法太溫和了 It's a bit timid.
目前還沒有人公開表態 No one's actually come out and said anything publicly yet.
這也只是揣測而已 Maybe it's just backroom speculation.
很危險的揣測 Pretty dangerous speculation.
找不到更有力的說法嗎？ Can't we hit it harder than this?
恐攻也只是十天前的事 The attacks were just 10 days ago.
大家都在捕風捉影 Everyone's trying to play catch-up.
我們得發揮公信力 Got to press our reliables.
晚點我會聯絡「義大利小姐」 I'll reach out to The Italian Lady.
你能取得露絲紐克的公開表態？ You think you can get Loose Nukes to go on the record?
剛好我跟她有很深的淵源 I'm lucky to get her on deep background.
加倍施展魅力是吧 Well, double down on the Charm Offensive.
日安，我是華恩史卓柏 Buongiorno, this is Warren Strobel.
我有個急迫的問題想請教 I was looking to get your advice on a critical scheduling matter.
若您能盡早回覆就太感激了，謝謝 If you could contact me at your earliest possible convenience...
I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you.
您好 ﹣是，您好 Hello.
我是強納森 Yeah, hi, it's Jonathan.
我無可奉告 I don't have anything for you.
（國防專家） 我明白，但我正在做一則專題 No, I know, I know, but I'm doing a story...
有關政府對伊拉克的態度 on the administration's seeming interest in Iraq.
強納森，我無話可說 Jonathan, we're not going to talk about this.
是，我明白 No, I know, I know I'm not talking about this...
你也當我沒問過 because it's off the record, but can you give me some indication?
因為這是匿名訪問 你也當我沒問過 because it's off the record, but can you give me some indication?
但你能給我一點提示嗎？ 你也當我沒問過 because it's off the record, but can you give me some indication?
再見，強納森 Bye, Jonathan.
她說了什麼？ What'd she say?
寒暄一下而已 She sends her love.
全國各地國旗飄揚 Across the nation...
flags have been flying off the shelves.
愛國之心正波濤洶涌 A wave of patriotism has been spreading across America.
我們此時此刻在做的 At times like this, it's what we do in America.
正是團結ㄧ致 We the People pull together.
學校今天在討論美國有多棒 They had a discussion in school today...
about why America is so great, right?
是喔，你們說了什麼呢？ about why America is so great, right?
對吧？ Yeah, and what'd you say? 是喔，你們說了什麼呢？
對吧？ Yeah, and what'd you say?
這是一個自由國度 It's a free country.
很棒的答案！ That's a great answer.
好孩子 That's Mama's boy.
我可以走了嗎？ May I be done now?
先抱一下 Not until I get a big hug.
先抱媽媽一下 Okay, after your mom gets a hug.
哇 Oh, whoa!
以你為傲，甜心 Proud of you, munchie.
愛你 Love you.
他們真的強力灌輸國族主義呢 They're really pushing this nationalism thing at school.
不然呢？接下來還有愛國主義 What do you expect?
Of course, there's going to be patriotism now.
Oh, you want to call it patriotism?
那叫愛國主義？好吧 Oh, you want to call it patriotism?
Fine. 那叫愛國主義？好吧
Fine.
對我來說就是國族主義 It smells a lot like nationalism to me.
南斯拉夫戰爭前就是這樣 That's how it started in Yugoslavia before the war.
最終撕裂了我的國家 Tore my country apart.
需要幫忙嗎？ You want some help?
不用，謝謝 No, I'm okay, thank you.
好吧，晚安 Okay, have a good night.
晚安 Good night.
伊拉克的論點有幾分真實？ How real is the Iraqi conversation?
（行政官員） 正在爭論當中 There's an argument taking place.
是嗎？目前哪一方勝出 Yeah? Who's winning it?
我說不准 I couldn't say.
聽著，我老闆要把我送去阿富汗 Look, my boss is gonna send me to Afghanistan, and all I want..
我只想知道他該幫我買來回機票 to know is should he be buying a roundtrip ticket...
或阿富汗只是前往巴格達的中繼站？ or is Afghanistan just a layover on the way to Baghdad?
我無可奉告 I can't tell you anything.
我認為這次恐攻的主使者是一個國家 I believe major acts of terrorism...
against the U.S. are state-sponsored.
因此我們必須檢視 So, we asked ourselves, "Who could have been behind...
能操作這起人類史上最慘烈攻擊的 因此我們必須檢視 So, we asked ourselves, "Who could have been behind...
the most massive terrorist assault in human history... 能操作這起人類史上最慘烈攻擊的
究竟是哪個國家？ "which state?" 能操作這起人類史上最慘烈攻擊的
究竟是哪個國家？ "which state?"
我認為伊拉克是最明顯的答案 I think Iraq is the state that most immediately comes to mind.
越來越多政府官員贊同此想法… This is an idea which in...
is gaining increased credibility.
奈特裏德報業，華恩史卓柏 Knight Ridder, it's Strobel.
（前美國政府官員） 吉姆伍爾西將前往歐洲調查 Jim Woolsey is going to Europe...
海珊與93年世貿中心爆炸案 to try to find a link between Saddam...
兩者之間是否有關聯 and the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
他是接受委託的嗎？ Is he freelancing?
美國政府派他去的 He was sent on an official government jet.
天啊，哪個人指派的？ Jesus, who sent him?
國防部副部長 The deputy defense secretary.
要喝杯咖啡嗎？ Can you meet for coffee?
（國防副部長） ﹣保持聯繫 I'll be in touch.
我是奈特裏德報業的華恩史卓柏 Hi, this is Warren Strobel with Knight Ridder.
我正在追查前中央情報總監… I'm working on a story...
吉姆伍爾西被派往歐洲一事 about former CIA director James Woolsey traveling to Europe.
你對此有任何瞭解嗎？ Do you know anything about that?
我不知道 I didn't have anything to do with that.
（美國外交官） 此事與我無關 我不知道 I didn't have anything to do with that.
但你很清楚確有其事？ But you're aware that such a trip has taken place?
我不能…你可以去問其他人 I can't be your only source on this.
好吧，保持聯繫 All right, stay in touch.
嘿，約翰 Hey, John.
伍爾西被派到歐洲 Woolsey was sent to Europe to look for evidence...
調查海珊跟93年爆炸案的關聯 linking Saddam to the World Trade Center bombing in '93.
任務要成功就不該派個蠢材去 Wouldn't be a fool's errand if they didn't send a fool.
是義大利小姐說的嗎？ This came from The Italian Lady?
還有個外交官可以證實 And a diplomat who can confirm...
是國防部副部長安排的 the trip was arranged by Wolfowitz.
國防部到底在幹什麼 What the hell is going on over at Defense?
問題應該是 Question is, are they trying to figure out...
此行他們是想證實自己的推論 if there's any truth to their theory...
還是他們早已確信推論屬實？ or are they already convinced their theory is true?
你確定伍爾西真的去了？ ﹣確定 You're sure about this Woolsey trip?
你有第三條線報嗎？ ﹣有 - Positive. - You have a third source?
來自誰？ - Yeah. - Who?
吉姆伍爾西本人 Jim Woolsey.
我是約翰沃科特 Hey, it's Walcott, you up for a field trip?
想出勤嗎？ 我是約翰沃科特 Hey, it's Walcott, you up for a field trip?
想出勤嗎？
我就知道你會打來 I figured you'd be calling...
但我沒想到是這麼快 I just didn't think it would be this soon.
（情報分析師） 但我沒想到是這麼快 I just didn't think it would be this soon.
（情報分析師）
伊拉克的論點有幾分真實性？ How real is the chatter about Iraq?
真實性非常高 Very.
真正發動恐攻的人卻被我們忘了 And it's diverting our attention from the people who attacked us.
多久後伊拉克會成為攻打目標？ How soon before Iraq becomes the focus?
我們就是想打仗 We need to blow something up.
但光打阿富汗沒意思 Not enough targets in Afghanistan.
那賓拉登呢？ What about bin Laden?
一旦拿下賓拉登，仗就不用再打了 You take out bin Laden...
interest in the war goes right down the shitter.
這是進攻托拉波拉的第六天 A joint offensive in its sixth day in Tora Bora...
賓拉登被懷疑藏身此處 bin Laden's suspected hideout...
但依舊沒有他的蹤跡 but still no signs of the world's most wanted man.
美國B52從空中轟炸蓋達組織基地 U.S. B-52s pounding Al Qaeda positions from the air...
反塔利班聯盟此時也遭到反擊 while anti-Taliban tanks...
and troops meet strong resistance...
蓋達組織戰力十足 cave to cave, from Al Qaeda fighters.
關於賓拉登尚有更多後續報導 With yet more conflicting reports...
on bin Laden's whereabouts.
（伊朗、伊拉克、北韓，邪惡軸心）
有什麼進度？ What you got there... （伊朗、伊拉克、北韓，邪惡軸心）
有什麼進度？ What you got there...
那是明天的國情咨文報導嗎 is that your State of the Union piece for tomorrow?
對 ﹣吃午餐了嗎？ - Yup. - You got a lunch today?
不能跟你一起吃 Not with you.
我跟國務院的魯尼圖恩有約 I got a one-on-one with Looney Tunes over at State.
看來有料了 There's a dry hole.
我想說讓他降低戒心 Yeah, well, I figured if I just let him ramble on...
也許就會意外透露些有用的訊息 he'll accidentally stumble into something newsworthy.
替我向他問好 ﹣好 Yeah, well, give my best.
熱騰騰的報導，貝瑞 I will. Hot off the presses, Beryl.
你有用標點符號嗎？ Did you use punctuation this time?
為了你我連分號都用上了 I even threw in a few semicolons just for you.
你一定是密蘇里大學的驕傲 I bet you're the pride of the University of Missouri.
曾佔領阿富汗的恐怖分子 Terrorists who once occupied Afghanistan...
（國情咨文，2002年1月29日） 現已被押入關塔那摩監獄 now occupy cells at Guantanamo Bay.
那些鼓吹別人犧牲的領導者 And terrorist leaders who urged followers to sacrifice...
眼下正為了保命而奔逃 their lives are running' for their own.
政府當前首要任務 Now, the administration's top priority apart from our own...
（國務院官員） 除了保障我國安全之外 政府當前首要任務 Now, the administration's top priority apart from our own...
也想確保其他渴望民主的國家 security is to ensure freedom for other countries... （國務院官員） 除了保障我國安全之外
也想確保其他渴望民主的國家 security is to ensure freedom for other countries...
都能享有自由的生活 looking to embrace democracy as a way of life.
我們…抱歉 Now, we... excuse me... we understand that we can't...
雖然我們不是世界警察 我們…抱歉 Now, we... excuse me... we understand that we can't...
be the policemen to the world... 雖然我們不是世界警察
be the policemen to the world...
但我們仍覺得有責任要… but we feel we have a responsibility to...
我是約翰沃科特 Yeah, John Walcott.
約翰 John!
狄克西？ Dixie?
約翰，你聽得到嗎？ John, can you hear me?
有，聽得到 Yeah, yeah, I can hear you.
（美國軍事情報員） 我今天接到部隊弟兄的電話 I got a call from one of our boys downrange today...
問我到底發生什麼事了 asking me what the fuck's going on.
你還在阿富汗嗎？ Are you still in Afghanistan?
對，我在阿富汗 Yeah, I'm in Afghanistan...
但沒人知道任務到底是什麼 but nobody knows what the mission is anymore.
到底要怎麼炸毀一個國家 How do you bomb a country back into the Stone Age...
如果它本身就已經毀了？ that's already in the middle of the goddamn Stone Age?
我們的第二個目標 Our second goal is to prevent regimes that sponsor terror...
是阻止發起恐攻的政權 我們的第二個目標 Our second goal is to prevent regimes that sponsor terror...
以大規模毀滅性武器 from threatening America, or our friends and allies...
威脅美國和美國的盟友 with weapons of mass destruction.
我們認為阿富汗能成為自由國家 We believe that Afghanistan is ripe for freedom.
多年來他們一直試圖擺脫塔利班牽制 Now, this is a country that has been struggling to free...
itself from the repressive grip of the Taliban for years.
我們本來在抓賓拉登 We've got bin Laden on the run and they're diverting my assets.
他們卻轉移了我們的資源 我們本來在抓賓拉登 We've got bin Laden on the run and they're diverting my assets.
這下子可能永遠抓不到他了 We may never get him in our crosshairs again.
什麼？等等 Whoa, whoa, wait, they're diverting your assets to where?
他們把資源轉移到哪去了？ 什麼？等等 Whoa, whoa, wait, they're diverting your assets to where?
許多恐怖政權自911後保持低調 Some of these regimes have been pretty quiet since...
September the 11th, but we know their true nature.
但我們清楚他們的真面目 You know, it's a country in desperate need of the kind...
這個國家極需法治來保持穩定 但我們清楚他們的真面目 You know, it's a country in desperate need of the kind...
這個國家極需法治來保持穩定
of stability that comes with the rule of law. 這個國家極需法治來保持穩定
of stability that comes with the rule of law.
北韓、伊朗、伊拉克 North Korea, Iran, Iraq... states like these...
這些國家和他們的恐怖盟友 北韓、伊朗、伊拉克 North Korea, Iran, Iraq... states like these...
and their terrorist allies constitute an axis of evil... 這些國家和他們的恐怖盟友
and their terrorist allies constitute an axis of evil...
組成了「邪惡軸心」 and their terrorist allies constitute an axis of evil...
透過武裝來威脅世界和平 arming to threaten the peace of the world.
我該走了，華恩 You'll have to excuse me...
我得準備去向國務卿作簡報 Warren, but I have to prepare a briefing for Secretary Powell.
好 Sure.
還有其他問題嗎 Anything else you need from me?
沒有了，謝謝 No, no, thank you.
你給了我頗多耐人尋味的線索 I think you've given me more than enough to chew on.
那就好 Excellent.
你認為阿富汗會接受西式民主嗎 And you feel confident that Afghanistan...
will accept a Western-style democracy?
那當然 Oh, absolutely.
我們對伊拉克的事也一樣肯定 Just as confident as we are about Iraq.
Sounds like the debate on Iraq is getting serious.
看來伊拉克的爭議越來越嚴重了 Sounds like the debate on Iraq is getting serious.
不，沒有爭議，海珊必須下台 Oh, no, no, no, that debate is over.
唯一的問題是如何讓他下台 Saddam's got to go, the only question is how.
很高興和你聊天，華恩 Good talking to you, Warren.
我也是 Yeah, you, too, sir.
總統要攻打伊拉克 The president is going to invade Iraq.
魯尼圖恩說的？ You got this from Looney Tunes?
對，有位外交官也證實了 Yeah, and confirmed by a diplomat who says he met...
他跟布希談過 with Bush, and a foreign leader recently who came away with...
還有位外國官員離境前說 他跟布希談過 with Bush, and a foreign leader recently who came away with...
還有位外國官員離境前說
感覺已做了攻打伊拉克的決定 "The feeling that a decision has been made to strike Iraq." 還有位外國官員離境前說
感覺已做了攻打伊拉克的決定 "The feeling that a decision has been made to strike Iraq."
這些材料夠寫一則報導嗎？ Do you think we can get enough to run the story?
算你衰，我認為夠了 Unfortunately, I do.
（托拉波拉，阿富汗）
只好先停戰了 So much for the ceasefire.
對，暫時停火我們也鬆一口氣 Yeah, well, really nice of us...
to temporarily stop shooting at them, though.
我被拒絕、被打擊 ? I've been bound up and wound up ?
完全說不出話 ? Could barely get a sound up ?
我被欺騙、被辜負 ? Been cheated mistreated ?
不願再回想 ? Don't even want to think of it ?
你在打什麼算盤，史馬克？ What are you up to, Smucker?
我今天試著和你的翻譯聊天 You know, I tried to chat with your translator today.
是喔，然後呢？ Yeah, how'd that go?
對一個靠說話來謀生的來說 Well, for a guy who gets paid to talk for a living...
他話少得不正常 he was unusually quiet.
他只跟我說話 He only talks to me.
是嗎？他跟你說了什麼 Really? And what'd he tell you?
付錢才准你看 Dollar, I'll let you read all about it.
給我看 Let me see it.
賓拉登跑了，是吧？ bin Laden's gone, isn't he?
他們沒抓到，對嗎？ They missed him, didn't they?
他人就在這，卻讓他跑了 He was here and they fucking missed him!
一位資深美軍官員告訴本台 A senior U.S. military official...
我方雖在托拉波拉攻陷蓋達基地 tells NBC News "Despite the crushing defeat...
"of Al Qaeda forces at Tora Bora...
但賓拉登據信已逃往巴基斯坦 "it's believed now that Osama bin Laden has slipped...
"across the border into Pakistan, seeking refuge...
躲在一個被軍閥佔領的蠻夷之地 "in a lawless no man's land...
"ruled by renegade tribal warlords."
天啊，真的來了 Oh, it's official...
這真是我做過最可悲的事 this is the saddest event I've ever attended.
我要回到公寓去喝個兩杯 I'm going back to my apartment, drink a bottle of wine...
然後把頭塞進烤箱裏 and put my head in the oven.
在你這麼做之前 Okay, but before you do that...
先見見那個我跟你說的人 I really want you to meet the guy I was telling you about.
他正好來了！ Oh! He just walked in!
不喝酒了，我直接自殺吧 Forget the wine, I'll kill myself now.
不是他 No, not him... him. I'll introduce you.
是他 不是他 No, not him... him. I'll introduce you.
我來介紹 Pam, please don't.
華恩，嘿！ ﹣嗨 我來介紹 Pam, please don't.
潘，拜託不要 - Warren! Hey! - Oh, hi. 華恩，嘿！ ﹣嗨
潘，拜託不要 - Warren! Hey! - Oh, hi.
很高興你趕上了，快過來 Glad you could make it, come on over.
華恩，這是我朋友麗莎梅爾 Warren, this is a good friend of mine, Lisa Mayr.
麗莎，這是華恩史卓柏 Lisa, this is Warren Strobel, he's a journalist...
他是一位記者 and I'm gonna get another drink.
我要再去拿一杯酒 他是一位記者 and I'm gonna get another drink.
我要再去拿一杯酒
你好，麗莎 ﹣你好 Hi, uh, Lisa?
很高興認識你 ﹣嗨 - Yeah. - Yeah, nice to meet you.
- Hi. - Uh...
後來你有成功進家門嗎 Did you ever make it into your apartment?
Uh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I'm sorry.
喔，對！不是 Uh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I'm sorry.
抱歉，有，我成功回家了 - Yeah, I made it in okay. - Good. Good.
很好 ﹣是啊 抱歉，有，我成功回家了 - Yeah, I made it in okay. - Good. Good.
你是記者？ So, you're a journalist?
對，奈特裏德集團 Yeah, yeah, for Knight Ridder.
是雜誌還是報紙？ Oh, is that a magazine or a newspaper?
是旗下有三十一種報紙的集團 It's actually a consortium of 31 newspapers, actually.
我的報導會發給每一種報紙 Well, my stories go out to all of our newspapers...
他們有權決定刊登與否 and each one has the option to publish or not.
原來如此 Oh, okay. I've always wondered how that worked.
我一直搞不懂那些運作模式 原來如此 Oh, okay. I've always wondered how that worked.
是啊 Yeah.
那個，我二十二歲就結婚了 Hey, I got married when I was 22.
最近才離婚，所以… And we're only recently separated, so...
我現在有點尷尬 This is a little awkward for me.
沒差 ﹣我對這些事很生疏 It's okay.
I'm a little out of practice.
不如你問我幾個問題？ Why don't you start by asking me a question?
好啊 Sure, yeah.
你是共和黨還是民主黨？ Are you a Republican or a Democrat?
再加把勁 Try again.
她當然希望你打給她 Yeah, of course, she wants you to call her.
她都給你名片了 She gave you her card.
說不定她只是想累積人脈 No, maybe she's just trying to gin up business.
在情人節的單身聯誼會上？ At a singles mixer on Valentine's Day?
所以呢，打給她嗎？ What? So, call her? I should call her?
什麼？不用啊 所以呢，打給她嗎？ What? So, call her? I should call her?
什麼？不用啊
我該打給她？ What? No, no, no, actually, let her dangle. 什麼？不用啊
我該打給她？ What? No, no, no, actually, let her dangle.
輕熟女最喜歡男人慢慢來了 我該打給她？ What? No, no, no, actually, let her dangle.
讓她等著好了啊 There's nothing a woman in her 30s likes more... 輕熟女最喜歡男人慢慢來了
than a guy who takes his time. 輕熟女最喜歡男人慢慢來了
我沒事，亞瑟 I'm fine, Arthur, I'm fine. 輕熟女最喜歡男人慢慢來了
我沒事，亞瑟 I'm fine, Arthur, I'm fine.
我只是有點厭倦每天早上拿到報紙 It's just that I'm getting a little tired...
of picking up your paper every morning...
就看到你又沒有用我們的報導 and seeing that you're not running our stories.
我特地確認了一下 I mean, last time I looked...
《費城詢問報》隸屬奈特裏德 The Philadelphia Inquirer was a Knight Ridder paper, right?
重點是，你一直不使用集團的報導 《費城詢問報》隸屬奈特裏德 The Philadelphia Inquirer was a Knight Ridder paper, right?
對吧？ The point is, there's no point in being a Knight Ridder paper.. 重點是，你一直不使用集團的報導
對吧？ The point is, there's no point in being a Knight Ridder paper..
身為集團的一份子又有什麼意義？ if you're not going to run Knight Ridder stories.
約翰，我們討論過很多次了 John, we've been through this already.
你的報導跟我們的方向不符 Your stories don't fit...
in with what we're doing over here right now.
不符？跟什麼不符 Don't fit? Don't fit with what? The truth?
跟真相不符嗎？ What's the matter, Arthur...
你是怎麼回事，亞瑟 跟真相不符嗎？ What's the matter, Arthur...
報紙都不報真相了嗎 the truth doesn't sell papers anymore?
今天，政府首度 And today, for the first time...
（2002年3月） 提供了細節 the administration provided...
有關海珊與蓋達組織間的關聯 details for what it has always insisted was a connection...
between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda.
此事有幾分真實？ How strong is that case?
伊拉克總統海珊表示 Iraqi president Saddam Hussein says...
他並未持有非法大規模毀滅性武器 he does not have any illegal weapons of mass destruction...
並指責美國以此為藉口發動戰爭 and accused the United States of using weapons...
as a pretext to start a war.
蓋洛威先生 Mr. Galloway, how closely did the movie conform to your book?
這部片有多貼近你的原著？ 蓋洛威先生 Mr. Galloway, how closely did the movie conform to your book?
80%算精確，20%是狗屁 The movie was about 80% accurate and 20% bullshit...
以好萊塢標準來說算成功改編 which I guess by Hollywood standards is an accomplishment.
此書的靈感來自哪裏？ What inspired you to write the book?
我被北越軍隊槍擊的經驗 Being shot at by the North Vietnamese army.
實際經歷越戰和在大銀幕觀看 What was the biggest difference between experiencing...
the Battle of Ia Drang in person versus watching it in a theater?
最大的不同在哪？ the Battle of Ia Drang in person versus watching it in a theater?
越南的爆米花比較咸 The popcorn in Ia Drang was saltier.
最後一個問題 Last question.
能比較一下當年的越南 Can you draw any comparisons between Vietnam...
和現今的阿富汗嗎？ and what's happening today in Afghanistan?
兩者有很大的不同 It's very different, but I think it is appropriate...
但我認為在我們再次開戰前 that before we start dropping bombs, we think long and hard...
應該要認真回想越戰的教訓 about the greatest lesson we got from Vietnam.
什麼教訓？ Which is?
政府搞砸，卻讓軍人來付出代價 When the government fucks up, the soldiers pay the price.
什麼風把你吹來了？ To what do I owe this unexpected visit?
我想要世界知名的戰地記者簽名 Well, I was hoping I'd get an autograph...
from the world's most famous war correspondent.
我最討厭這個環節了 I hate this part. Reporters are not supposed to be the story.
記者不該成為報導的一部分 我最討厭這個環節了 I hate this part. Reporters are not supposed to be the story.
記者不該成為報導的一部分
記者也不該獲頒銅星勳章 Reporters are not supposed to be awarded the Bronze Star, either. 記者不該成為報導的一部分
記者也不該獲頒銅星勳章 Reporters are not supposed to be awarded the Bronze Star, either.
你的公職生涯如何？ How do you like the job at State?
我喜歡和國務卿共事 I love working for General Powell...
但討厭替政府工作 and I hate working for Uncle Sam.
你懷念干記者的日子？ You miss reporting?
干了42年我也是該放手了 After 42 years, I thought...
9月10日我開始在國務院工作 I should take some time away from it.
So, I went to work at the State Department on September 10th...
隔天卻出了這麼一條大新聞 and the next day the biggest story of my life broke.
只能說人算不如天算 I'd say there's a little bit of a tug.
我們正在追查一件大事 We're working on something important, that's why I'm here.
這也是我來的原因 我們正在追查一件大事 We're working on something important, that's why I'm here.
來讓我羨慕的嗎？ To make me envious?
來給你個工作 To make you an offer.
若他拿到大規模毀滅性武器，傑瑞 If he gets weapons of mass destruction, Jerry.
這對世界來說意味著什麼？ What does that mean for the world?
對中東又意味著什麼？ What does that mean for the Middle East?
可以關掉嗎 - Can you turn it down? - I'm trying to watch the news.
什麼狗屁新聞 我正在看新聞 Stop calling it that.
兒子 Hey, son.
亞當，怎麼了？ Adam, what's the matter?
我參加了招募 I met with a recruiter.
A lot of people are gonna die, Jerry.
你知道簽了志願役就不能反悔嗎？ You know once you sign up...
there's no changing your mind, right?
知道 I know.
你怎麼知道？你只是孩子 What do you know? You're just a kid.
我們的國家被攻擊 Whose country was attacked.
亞當，我知道你想做對的事 Adam, I know you want to do what you think is right...
但戰爭不是打電動 but war is not a video game.
你根本不知道要面對的是什麼 You have no idea what you're getting into.
我很清楚我面對的是什麼 I know exactly what I'm getting into.
過來 Here.
指給我看阿富汗在地圖的哪裏 Show me where Afghanistan is on this map.
指給我看 Show me.
他們會把你送到世界的另一端 They're gonna send you halfway around the world to fight...
去跟你根本不認識的人打仗 people you didn't even know existed a year ago.
若你真的明白 If you know what you're getting into...
先指給我看阿富汗在哪裏 show me where Afghanistan is on this map.
有人也曾把地圖放在爸面前 Did anyone ever shove a map in Dad's face...
叫爸指出越南在哪裏嗎？ and ask him to find Vietnam?
我們知道 We now know that Saddam has resumed...
海珊正不遺餘力試圖取得核武 我們知道 We now know that Saddam has resumed...
his efforts to acquire nuclear weapons. 海珊正不遺餘力試圖取得核武
his efforts to acquire nuclear weapons.
（海外作戰退伍軍人協會） 在諸多消息來源中 Among other sources, we've gotten this from firsthand...
（全國代表大會 2002年8月） 這是來自叛逃者證詞的第一手資訊 testimony from defectors.
許多人相信海珊很快會取得核武 Many of us are convinced that Saddam Hussein...
will acquire nuclear weapons fairly soon.
簡而言之 Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein...
海珊現在擁有大規模毀滅性武器 簡而言之 Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein...
海珊現在擁有大規模毀滅性武器
now has weapons of mass destruction. 海珊現在擁有大規模毀滅性武器
now has weapons of mass destruction.
又在天花亂墜地扯伊拉克的事了 They're dialing up the rhetoric on Iraq.
讓我們看看能否踢爆這一切 Let's see if we can nail them down, okay?
取得公開表態的人贏二十塊 Twenty bucks, whoever gets the best quote.
才不要，你超幼稚 No, no, no, you're such a child.
你小孬孬 You're such a pussy.
我才不拿你的錢 I'm not taking your money.
輸了你也會硬拗 You get all bent out of shape when you lose.
哪會，輸贏對我來說都一樣 I don't care. I'm just the same when I win or lose.
我不要，這有啥好賭的 I'm not... it's not a bet, all right, fine.
華恩史卓柏要找參議員拜登，謝謝 我不要，這有啥好賭的 I'm not... it's not a bet, all right, fine.
好啦，隨便 Warren Strobel for Senator Biden, please. 華恩史卓柏要找參議員拜登，謝謝
你這傢伙！ Son of a bitch. 華恩史卓柏要找參議員拜登，謝謝
你這傢伙！ Son of a bitch.
拜登跟布希說 Biden told Bush, "There's a reason your father didn't go...
「老布希不佔領巴格達…」 拜登跟布希說 Biden told Bush, "There's a reason your father didn't go...
「是因為他深知駐軍時間會太長」 "to Baghdad. He knew he would have to stay... 「老布希不佔領巴格達…」
「是因為他深知駐軍時間會太長」 "to Baghdad. He knew he would have to stay...
"for at least five years."
布魯金斯智庫的邁克歐漢隆說 I got Michael O'Hanlon at Brookings saying...
「這絕不會是件容易事」 "You definitely cannot count on it being a cakewalk."
得比這個更有煽動力才行 We gotta hit it harder than that.
好吧，等等 All right, well, hang on. I got an official at the U.N...
還有個聯合國官員說 好吧，等等 All right, well, hang on. I got an official at the U.N...
還有個聯合國官員說
「人們普遍擔心這將顛覆中東世界」 that says, "There's widespread concern... 還有個聯合國官員說
「人們普遍擔心這將顛覆中東世界」 that says, "There's widespread concern...
"that this will destabilize the whole Middle East."
讓我看看你還有什麼料 Let me see what you have.
等等…我還有… ﹣我有… Well, wait, I got... I got...
給我，快給我 Just give it to me, give, give, give.
好啦 ﹣好 Okay.
All right.
來看看 Let's see here... all right.
很好 來看看 Let's see here... all right.
很好
好
你們很聰明 You guys are smart.
都知道要戳破的是什麼 You know what's unfolding here.
我們的讀者也該知道真相 Our readers need to know what we've learned.
「最好的情況是」 "In the best case scenario, U.S. troops could be stuck in Iraq...
「美國軍隊將駐守伊拉克多年」 「最好的情況是」 "In the best case scenario, U.S. troops could be stuck in Iraq...
「試圖向中東世界散佈西方民主」 "for years trying to teach the inner workings of democracy... 「美國軍隊將駐守伊拉克多年」
「試圖向中東世界散佈西方民主」 "for years trying to teach the inner workings of democracy...
"to a nation that has never known it. In the worst case...
「最糟的情況則是」 "scenario, an invasion could cause Iraq's fractious ethnic...
「入侵伊拉克將導致他們四分五裂」 「最糟的情況則是」 "scenario, an invasion could cause Iraq's fractious ethnic...
"groups to break off into their own mini-states... 「入侵伊拉克將導致他們四分五裂」
「並讓美軍長期困在血腥內戰之中」 "trapping American combat forces in the middle... 「入侵伊拉克將導致他們四分五裂」
「並讓美軍長期困在血腥內戰之中」 "trapping American combat forces in the middle...
"of a bloody civil war for decades."
老闆很有膽識 Boss man's got balls.
是啊 Yeah.
看著辦吧
好 Shit.
該死 好 Shit.
那是給我的嗎？ Were those for me?
不是…是 No. Yes.
但我覺得有點…不知道 But I thought it might be a little, I don't know...
有點太早開始送禮了 a little too soon to be giving each other gifts.
我覺得沒差啊 It would've been all right.
我想花應該掉到車上了 Okay.
Well, I think they landed on my car...
去撿起來順便吃晚餐好嗎？ so if you want to grab them on the way to dinner...
maybe we can do that?
好啊 ﹣太好了 - Great. - Great.
你為了準備今晚的約會 Okay, so what was the most embarrassing thing...
做了最糗的事是什麼？ you did to prepare for tonight?
好吧，我先說 All right.
為了準備今晚的約會 I will admit, that to prepare for tonight...
我惡補了一下伊拉克史 I did kind of a cram session on Iraq...
瞭解一下穆斯林世界 and the history of the Muslim world.
真假？ ﹣真的 Really?
現在我知道1400年前 Yes.
穆罕默德死後 Now I know that 1400 years ago, after the death of Muhammad...
穆斯林為了繼承人而爭執 Muslims fought over who was to be his rightful heir...
導致他們分為兩派，遜尼派和什葉派 and that caused a split into two factions...
自此他們一直處於戰爭狀態 the Sunnis and the Shiites.
一次世界大戰之後 And they've been at war ever since.
英法瓜分中東世界 Then, at the end of World War I, the British and the French...
arbitrarily divided the Arab world into countries...
並扶持遜尼派壯大 putting the Sunni majority in charge.
但伊拉克其實只有20%是遜尼派 But the country that became Iraq is made up of only 20% Sunni.
遜尼派的海珊 So, Saddam Hussein, a Sunni, with an iron fist rules...
以鐵腕統治佔多數的什葉派人民 遜尼派的海珊 So, Saddam Hussein, a Sunni, with an iron fist rules...
the majority Shiite population... 以鐵腕統治佔多數的什葉派人民
和其他20%北方的庫德族 and the 20% Kurdish population in northern Iraq. 以鐵腕統治佔多數的什葉派人民
和其他20%北方的庫德族 and the 20% Kurdish population in northern Iraq.
但海珊若是倒台了 But if Saddam Hussein were removed, it could possibly...
1400年前的教派戰爭又會重燃 reignite that 1400-year-old sectarian war.
讀了你的報導之後 Now, after reading your stories...
我知道伊朗才是恐怖主義國家 I know that Iran is the top sponsor of terror, not Iraq.
不是伊拉克 That a man named Ahmed Chalabi seems to be a con artist...
還有那個叫查拉比的騙徒 不是伊拉克 That a man named Ahmed Chalabi seems to be a con artist...
似乎是想取代海珊的位置 who wants to replace Saddam Hussein.
布希政府裏的新保守主義分子 That the neo-cons in the Bush Administration...
也正在鼓吹進軍伊拉克 are pushing for an invasion.
你迅速地成為了我最愛的記者 And you are quickly becoming my favorite writer.
哇喔 Wow.
Um... I guess it's my turn.
換我說了嗎 Give it to me.
好吧，我承認 換我說了嗎 Give it to me.
說來聽聽 Okay, I will admit that... 好吧，我承認
說來聽聽 Okay, I will admit that...
真的有點難以啟齒 This is a little embarrassing.
我請前妻今晚幫忙照顧孩子們 I asked my ex-wife to watch my two sons tonight.
這哪裏糗 Why is that embarrassing?
因為照理說我應該傍晚就回到家 Because a babysitter would expect me home...
at the end of the evening and...
不如我們去結帳吧？ Should we get the check?
告訴你老闆 Tell your boss we're gonna run it whether he comments or not!
無論他說什麼我們都會報導 告訴你老闆 Tell your boss we're gonna run it whether he comments or not!
說對了，這攸關生死！ Actually yes, it is a matter of life and death!
這是他媽的戰爭！ We're talking about going to fucking war!
喂？ Hello?
我猜是不予置評？ I'm guessing that was a no comment?
你笑什麼？ What are you grinning about?
我沒有在笑啊 What? I'm not grinning.
明明就有 - You're grinning. - I'm not grinning.
我真的沒有在笑 ﹣你在看什麼？ - I'm not... - What have you got over there?
冷靜啦，不用你管 我真的沒有在笑 ﹣你在看什麼？ - I'm not... - What have you got over there?
冷靜啦，不用你管
你不准… Relax! Don't worry about it. 冷靜啦，不用你管
你不准… Relax! Don't worry about it.
哇靠，她我可以 Oh my God, she could do my taxes.
好啦，別激動 All right, relax.
你好，我是華恩 - Strobel, Knight Ridder. - Of course.
原來如此 你好，我是華恩 - Strobel, Knight Ridder. - Of course.
好的 Okay.
好，我會到 All right, I'll be right there.
走吧，可能有搞頭 Let's go, this could be something.
所以要怎麼做？ So, how does this work?
你們會問我問題 Do you ask me questions or do I just start talking?
還是我自己開始講？ 你們會問我問題 Do you ask me questions or do I just start talking?
不如你先開始講 Why don't you just begin...
我們有問題再問你 and we'll ask the questions when we have them.
我必須先聲明這是匿名的，對吧 If it's off the record, I have to say so, right?
你想匿名嗎？ Do you want it to be off the record?
我要人們知道我所知道的 I want people to know what I know, but not who I am.
他們不必知道我這個人 It'll be background.
只會被列為背景資訊 他們不必知道我這個人 It'll be background.
你會被指稱為美國政府官員 You'll be referred to as a U.S. official.
告訴我們你想爆的料吧 So, whatever you feel comfortable telling us.
我相信你們的預測是對的 I believe your prediction about what could and will happen...
如果我們真的開戰的話 if we go to war is spot on.
或許比你們想的更嚴重 And we're a lot closer than you think.
多嚴重？ How close?
一個秘密戰略小組已經成立 A secret war planning group with a parallel intelligence...
是個獨立於其他組織的情報單位 operation has been set up to bypass...
the rest of the intelligence community.
你怎麼知道的？ How do you know this?
他們在我工作的大樓裏碰面 They meet in the building where I work.
哪一棟大樓？ And which building is that?
有五個角的那一棟 The one with the five sides.
你是這個秘密組織的一員？ But you're not a part of that unit?
不是 No.
那你是怎麼知道的？ So, how do you know about this?
我的桌子正對著大廳 My desk is across the hall.
你在哪個單位工作？ What office do you work for?
近東南亞事務部門 Near East South Asia division, but you can't disclose that.
但你不能公開 近東南亞事務部門 Near East South Asia division, but you can't disclose that.
你是分析師？ ﹣對 You're an analyst?
這也不能公開 Yes... but you can't disclose that, either.
我告訴你們內情，因為我是美國公民 I'm speaking to you because I'm an American citizen...
而我不喜歡我所目睹的黑幕 and I don't like what these people are doing.
大約有六人，多半從未從軍 Half a dozen men, most of whom have never served...
只憑一些劣質情資做決策 in the military are making decisions...
based on shoddy intelligence, and those decisions...
這些決策卻會影響無數軍人 will impact our men and women in uniform.
身為曾經從軍的人 And as someone who has worn that uniform, I can't remain silent.
我不能保持沉默 身為曾經從軍的人 And as someone who has worn that uniform, I can't remain silent.
你提到劣質的情資 You said shoddy intelligence. What do you mean by that?
是指什麼？ 你提到劣質的情資 You said shoddy intelligence. What do you mean by that?
他們發展了一套流程 They've designed a process that doesn't conform...
完全不符合情資搜集標準 to any basic tenet of intelligence gathering.
怎樣不符合？ In what way?
他們先做決策 A decision is made, then the intelligence...
再找出符合決策的情報來背書 is sought to support that decision.
你怎麼知道？ How do you know this?
他們對講阿拉伯語的人沒興趣 They have no interest in Arabic speakers.
以色列人不用證件就能進來 Israelis come in without passes...
甚至不會被列入安檢紀錄 without even being entered into a security log.
政府多年來都在資助一批被稱為 And for years the government has been funding a group...
「伊拉克國民大會」的異議人士 of exiled dissidents called the Iraqi National Congress.
由查拉比領導，我們知道 Led by Ahmad Chalabi, we know.
政府想讓他來掌權 Who they want to install as the new leader of Iraq.
對，我們一直想跟他見面 Yeah, we've been trying to get a meeting with him.
你知道是誰佈署這次行動的嗎？ Do you know who set up this operation?
國防部長唐納德倫斯斐 Donald Rumsfeld.
是否有任何證據能表明… Is there any evidence to indicate that Iraq...
伊拉克試圖或有意提供恐怖分子 has attempted to or is willing to supply terrorists...
（2002年10月） …大規模毀滅性武器？ with weapons of mass destruction?
空穴來風的報導總是很有趣 The reports that say that something hasn't happened...
are always interesting to me because as we know...
因為眾所周知 are always interesting to me because as we know...
有些事是已知的事實 there are known knowns, there are things we know we know.
我們知道自己所掌握的資訊 有些事是已知的事實 there are known knowns, there are things we know we know.
而有些事則是已知的未知 We also know there are known unknowns.
意思就是 That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know.
我們知道還有這些未知 意思就是 That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know.
但也有些事是未知的未知 But there are also unknown unknowns.
我們根本不知道自己不知道 The one's we don't know we don't know.
我們推斷政府已決定開戰 We're working on a theory that the administration...
並正試圖合理化這個決策 has already decided to go to war...
and is now focused on how to justify it.
（美國情資官員） 這不是推斷 It's not a theory.
有多名線人向我們踢爆 We've also been told by a number of individuals that...
倫斯斐負責指揮情資搜集 Rumsfeld's the one spearheading this intelligence gathering.
那稱不上是情資搜集 I wouldn't exactly call it intelligence gathering.
比較像是選擇性取用情資 It's more like intelligence cherry picking.
如果沒找到可用的情資 And if they don't find any cherries...
他們就隨便找些狗屁來搪塞 they just grab a piece of shit...
加油添醋一下，就把那稱之為情資 and they paint it red, and they stick it in a Shirley Temple.
你似乎很肚爛 You seem irritated.
我得幫他們找出不存在的武器 I'm out there looking for weapons that might not exist...
用來合理化一場不智的戰爭 to justify a war that might not be wise.
你有找到大規模殺傷性武器嗎 And have you found any evidence of WMD?
沒有 No, sir.
那海珊有發展核武嗎 But Saddam is looking to acquire nukes, right?
有啊，我還搞過翹臀珍咧 Yeah, and I'm trying to fuck Jennifer Lopez, but I have...
但我們都知道根本沒這回事 a sinking feeling that neither of those things is gonna happen.
我們不會揭露你的身份 So, we won't use your identity, but can we get a quote?
但可以引用你說的話嗎 我們不會揭露你的身份 So, we won't use your identity, but can we get a quote?
當然 Sure.
你有找到任何證據能佐證 Have you found anything to support the administration's...
海珊即將或已持有核武嗎？ theory that Saddam is close to or has acquired nuclear weapons?
我們找遍伊拉克的山洞 We've searched every cave...
連駱駝的屁眼都檢查了 and looked up every camel's ass in Iraq.
這句讓你引用 So, here's your quote, "no fucking way."
「沒有他媽的證據」 這句讓你引用 So, here's your quote, "no fucking way."
「沒有他媽的證據」
我會美化一下句子 Might have to clean that up a bit.
很生動 Quite colorful, though.
老婆，有人偷了我們的紐約時報 Uh, honey, I think someone...
is stealing our New York Times.
我取消訂閱了 I canceled it.
為什麼？ Why would you do that?
內容都在洗腦 It's propaganda.
我工作需要讀 I need that for my work.
裏面儘是白宮、國務院 It's packaging press releases from the White House...
和國防部的新聞稿 the State Department, and the Pentagon.
那根本不叫報紙 Sorry, that's not a real newspaper.
你今天如何？ How was your day?
我跟華恩採訪了一個情報單位的人 Warren and I met with some gentleman...
他證實了完全沒有證據 from the intelligence community who confirmed that...
there's no real evidence to support...
能證明政府說的大規模毀滅武器 the administration's claim on WMD.
我就說吧 What have I been telling you?
真可惜 Well, unfortunately, I can't use your gut as a reliable source.
你的直覺不能當作一條線報 真可惜 Well, unfortunately, I can't use your gut as a reliable source.
你的直覺不能當作一條線報
這就是政府在做的事 You know, this is what they do. They lie.
謊話連篇 Yeah, and we try to hold them accountable.
是啊，我們試圖讓他們負責 謊話連篇 Yeah, and we try to hold them accountable.
是啊，我們試圖讓他們負責
多希望我想錯了，真的希望 I hope I'm wrong. I really, really do.
但布希政府不在乎真相 But the Bush Administration, they don't care about the truth.
他們甚至沒有回應你的報導 They don't even respond to your articles.
他們想打仗就真的會去打 If they want a war, they're gonna get one.
無論你或是憲法 And there's nothing that you or the first amendment...
都無法阻止他們 is gonna do to stop them.
（高官憂心缺乏伊拉克武器實證）
鬼扯鬼扯，看看這些 Extra, extra, read all about it.
（美國認為海珊加速製造核武）
「過去十四個月」 "Over the past 14 months, Iraq has tried to buy thousands...
「伊拉克試圖購入數以千計…」 「過去十四個月」 "Over the past 14 months, Iraq has tried to buy thousands...
「特殊設計的鋁管」 "of specially design aluminum tubes, which American... 「伊拉克試圖購入數以千計…」
「特殊設計的鋁管」 "of specially design aluminum tubes, which American...
「美國政府認定此為」 "officials believe were intended as components...
「用於濃縮鈾的離心機組件」 "of centrifuges to enrich uranium."
有一件能肯定的事 Well, one thing's for sure.
什麼事？ What's that?
我們兩方的報導矛盾 We can't both be right.
你要打給誰？ Who're you calling?
露絲紐克 Loose Nukes.
若她連進攻伊拉克的事都不說 If she wouldn't talk to you about going into Iraq...
又怎可能跟你說武器的事？ what makes you think she's gonna go on the record on WMD?
魅力攻勢 Charm Offensive. Watch and learn, son.
學著點，小老弟 魅力攻勢 Charm Offensive. Watch and learn, son.
學著點，小老弟
強納森 Landay.
喬蓋洛威來了 - It's Joe Galloway. - Wow.
天啊 喬蓋洛威來了 - It's Joe Galloway. - Wow.
他連走路都閃著銅星勳章 Man even walks like he has a Bronze Star.
你好 Hello.
嗨，我是強納森蘭德 Oh, hi, yeah, it's Landay.
你好，強納森 ﹣嗨 Hello, Jonathan.
Hi. Crazy weather we're having, huh?
天氣超差的，對吧 Hi. Crazy weather we're having, huh?
你打來討論天氣的？ You're calling me to chat about the weather?
不是，好吧 No, no, yeah. Actually, I wanted to ask you about WMD.
其實我想問你武器的事 不是，好吧 No, no, yeah. Actually, I wanted to ask you about WMD.
絕不會透漏你的資訊 It'll be deep, deep background.
再見，強納森 Goodbye, Jonathan.
等等，別掛斷 No wait, don't hang up.
看來你的魅力攻勢很鳥 That Charm Offensive... that's formidable.
聽著，我們需要你 Listen, we need you here.
多年來你掌握的許多消息來源 You've developed sources over the years that have access...
都是強納森和華恩無法觸及的 that Landay and Strobel just can't get.
我會讓你輕鬆點 I'll make it easy on you.
我給你一個專欄 I'll give you a column...
你的名字完全不用出現 and your name doesn't have to appear on anything else.
但你可以寫任何東西 Whatever else you want to write on the side, you can...
當然你因此無法享有名譽… and of course, there won't be any glory, but...
名譽是年輕人追求的玩意 Glory's for young men.
讓我想想 Let me percolate on it.
現在來談談伊拉克 Let me turn to the issue of Iraq.
你曾說它對美國構成致命威脅 You have said that it poses...
a mortal threat to the United States.
什麼樣的威脅？ How? Define "mortal threat."
致命威脅又是指什麼？ 什麼樣的威脅？ How? Define "mortal threat."
解釋起來有點長 Well, this'll take some time, but it's important for us... 致命威脅又是指什麼？
解釋起來有點長 Well, this'll take some time, but it's important for us...
但這對我們來說很重要 as I mentioned earlier...
如之前所說，世界已經改變 to remember that the world has changed, that prior to...
911之前… I'd forgotten the world had changed.
我都忘了世界變了 911之前… I'd forgotten the world had changed.
我也是，真高興他提起 So did I. I'm so happy he mentioned that.
海珊確切持有了什麼… What, specifically, has he obtained that you believe...
讓你認定他正發展核武？ would enhance his nuclear development program?
要製造核武 Well, in the nuclear weapons arena...
得先準備鋁管 you've got specifically aluminum tubes.
紐約時報今早有報導 There's a story in The New York Times this morning...
這歸功於紐約時報 this is and I want to attribute to The Times.
我不想談特定情報 I don't want to talk about, obviously...
specific intelligence sources, but it's now public that...
但這現已是公開事實 in fact he has been seeking to acquire, and we have been...
海珊一直試圖發展核武 但這現已是公開事實 in fact he has been seeking to acquire, and we have been...
我們能阻止他取得材料 able to intercept and prevent him from acquiring...
through this particular channel...
即是用於離心機的鋁管 the kinds of tubes that are necessary...
to build a centrifuge.
離心機需採用低等級鈾 And the centrifuge is required to take low-grade uranium...
並將其提升為高濃縮鈾 and enhance it into highly enriched uranium...
這是製造核彈的必備條件 which is what you have to have in order to build a bomb.
真是好狗運 Lucky for him, someone leaked that to The Times.
有人向紐約時報爆了這個料 真是好狗運 Lucky for him, someone leaked that to The Times.
他因此避開了洩密被捕的麻煩 Avoids the pesky nuisance of being arrested...
大家只想知道紐時記者 for revealing classified information.
One can only wonder how Judy Miller and Michael Gordon...
是從哪裏知道這些資訊的 got that information.
一年多還未抓到賓拉登 Does it bother you, bug you...
你是否為此感到困擾？ that you have not captured Osama bin Laden in over a year?
我很想在電視上看到他被上銬 I'd like to see him on television in handcuffs...
我只能這麼說，我、大家都想 if I can put it into those terms.
但我並不會為此徹夜難眠 I think all of us would.
But I don't lay awake at night concerned about that.
有一派的人認為他已經死了 There's one school of thought that says he's already dead.
已經好幾個月沒有他的消息 We haven't heard anything of him in many months.
你認為呢？ ﹣我不知道 What do you think?
真的不知道 I don't know, I really don't know.
是死是活都有可能 I can argue it round or flat.
是有沒有這麼模棱兩可 I didn't know we were still debating the shape of the earth.
兩派說法我都有線報 I've got sources on both sides.
但美軍此時能發揮巨大作用
But the U.S. military would be enormously effective... 但美軍此時能發揮巨大作用
我不認為交戰會太過劇烈 in this circumstance. 但美軍此時能發揮巨大作用
我不認為交戰會太過劇烈 in this circumstance.
And I don't think it would be that tough a fight.
所以毫無疑問 That is, I don't think there's any question...
我認為我們會佔上風 that we would prevail and we would achieve our objective.
並實現我們的目標 我認為我們會佔上風 that we would prevail and we would achieve our objective.
強納森 Landay.
幹嘛？ Yeah?
我們是對的吧？ We are right, aren't we?
各位聽好 Everybody, listen up.
我們不是國家廣播公司 We're not NBC.
不是ABC新聞或CBS電視網 We're not ABC. We're not CBS.
不是福斯，也不是CNN We're not FOX. We're not CNN.
我們不是紐約時報 We're not The New York Times.
不是華盛頓郵報 We're not The Washington Post.
我們是奈特裏德報業 We are Knight Ridder.
我們的讀者來自有軍事基地的城市 We have readers who live in towns with military bases.
班寧堡、佈雷格堡、傑克森堡 Fort Benning, Fort Bragg, Fort Jackson...
還有國內四十餘個軍事基地 and over 40 other military bases throughout this country.
如果其他新聞媒體 If every other news organization wants to be stenographers...
想當布希政府的應聲蟲 如果其他新聞媒體 If every other news organization wants to be stenographers...
for the Bush administration, let them. 想當布希政府的應聲蟲
for the Bush administration, let them.
讓他們當吧 for the Bush administration, let them.
讓他們當吧
我們絕不會應和 We don't write for people who send other people's kids to war.
將別人的孩子送上戰場的人 我們絕不會應和 We don't write for people who send other people's kids to war.
將別人的孩子送上戰場的人
我們為孩子被送去打仗的人發聲 We write for people whose kids get sent to war.
所以，當政府表態的時候 So, when the government says something...
你們就該問一個問題 you only have one question to ask.
「這是事實嗎？」 Is it true?
我想好了 I'm through percolating.
上工吧 Let's get to work.
政府官員在週末節目上談話 Administration officials spanned out on the Sunday talk shows...
表示進軍伊拉克勢在必行 to make the case for an invasion of Iraq.
還有誰在秘密戰略小組裏 Who else is involved in The Office of Special Planning?
國防部副部長和政策次長 Wolfowitz, Feith, couple others.
他們不聽取專業的威脅評估
還有一些其他人 Instead of listening to people who have spent their careers... 他們不聽取專業的威脅評估
evaluating threats, they're streaming questionable intel... 他們不聽取專業的威脅評估
evaluating threats, they're streaming questionable intel...
反而大量採用不可靠的情資 evaluating threats, they're streaming questionable intel...
（紐約時報：國安顧問表示 蓋達組織與伊拉克有聯繫） from unreliable sources and taking it... 反而大量採用不可靠的情資
（紐約時報：國安顧問表示 蓋達組織與伊拉克有聯繫） from unreliable sources and taking it...
然後上呈到白宮 directly to the White House.
（恐攻專家表示伊拉克與此無關） 喬治泰內特，中央情報總監 George Tenet, Director of Central Intelligence...
告訴參議員他不排除 told Senators, he could not rule out cooperation...
蓋達組織和賓拉登的合作 between Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda.
（紐約時報：伊拉克異議人士指出 20餘處武器藏匿地點） I've seen the specs on those aluminum tubes.
我已經看過這些鋁管的規格 （紐約時報：伊拉克異議人士指出 20餘處武器藏匿地點） I've seen the specs on those aluminum tubes.
（核武專家） 對濃縮鈾來說它們太小了 They're too small to be used for enriching uranium.
什麼意思？ What does that mean?
這無法用來製造核子彈 They can't be used for a nuclear bomb.
美國總統表示我們不允許 The President of the United States...
（專家表示伊拉克無法取得製造核武所需的材料） 各國發展大規模殺傷性武器 said we're not going to permit nations to develop...
weapons of mass destruction...
（紐約時報：嚴密佈署 國防部堅持不懈） 因為這些武器將會被提供給 as they're gonna supply those weapons to a network...
可能攻擊美國的恐怖組織 of terrorism that could attack the United States.
副總統想搞掉國務卿 Cheney is trying to shut out Powell.
你從哪裏知道的？ Where'd you get this stuff?
老朋友那裏 Old friend.
（布希政府對伊拉克判斷有誤） 政府內部已有拔除海珊的共識 We're starting to see a consensus from within...
the administration for the removal of Saddam Hussein.
（紐約時報：決議的時刻到了） 政府指出伊拉克情報部門 The administration has pointed...
和911劫機者曾在布拉格密會 to a secret meeting in Prague between Iraqi intelligence...
and 9/11 hijacker, Mohamed Atta.
布希政府正在迫使聯合國安理會 Bush administration is pressing the United Nations...
盡快作出向伊拉克施壓的決議 Security Council for a resolution...
布希總統今天將在聯合國發表談話 to put pressure on Iraq.
President Bush will address the United Nations today...
希望組織聯盟來解除海珊的武裝 in hopes of putting together a multi-national coalition...
白宮正在遊說國會授權進軍伊拉克 to disarm Saddam Hussein.
The White House is lobbying Congress to authorize...
the use of force in Iraq.
這些傢伙一得到看似證據的東西 The minute these guys get their hands on anything...
remotely resembling evidence...
就立刻洩漏給紐約時報 they leak it to The New York Times.
我知道你的處境 Now, I understand the position you're in...
但請先別掛我電話 but please don't hang up on me.
好 Okay.
好 Okay, the vice president of the United States...
副總統告訴海外作戰退伍軍人協會 好 Okay, the vice president of the United States...
went to the V.F.W. and said that Saddam Hussein... 副總統告訴海外作戰退伍軍人協會
went to the V.F.W. and said that Saddam Hussein...
海珊正在發展核武 is on the threshold of developing a nuclear weapon.
接著又上電視說了一樣的話 Then he goes on national television...
and says the same thing.
你的問題是？ Your question?
快問她 Ask the question.
我想知道 What I want to know is, is Dick Cheney ignoring...
副總統是故意忽略 good intelligence that contradicts his assumptions...
與他假設不符的精確情報 副總統是故意忽略 good intelligence that contradicts his assumptions...
還是他得到的都是劣質情報？ or is he just getting bad intelligence? 與他假設不符的精確情報
還是他得到的都是劣質情報？ or is he just getting bad intelligence?
副總統在說謊 The vice president is lying.
謝謝你，太感謝了 Thank you, thank you so much.
怎麼樣？她說什麼 What? What, what, what? What'd she say?
副總統說謊 He's lying.
他說謊，副總統說謊 - He's lying. - Cheney is lying.
副總統說謊 - Cheney's lying! - Cheney's lying!
他說謊！ - He's lying! John! - He's lying!
約翰！ 他說謊！ - He's lying! John! - He's lying!
他說謊！ 他說謊！ - He's lying! John! - He's lying!
約翰！ John!
他跑去哪了 Where the hell is he?
這邊，這邊 Here we go. Here we go.
他說謊 ﹣他說謊 - He's lying. - He's lying.
副總統說謊 Cheney's lying.
哪來的說法？ Where did this come from?
露絲紐克 Loose Nukes.
既然已經知道他們的說詞 Okay.
Now, we know what's being talk about, we got to get inside...
我們得深入調查那些會議 those meetings and find out if there's a dissenting opinion.
看看是否有其他意見 我們得深入調查那些會議 those meetings and find out if there's a dissenting opinion.
我應該有線人 I may have a guy.
我們認識嗎？ Anybody we know?
我的口袋名單 The Usual Suspect.
（資深政府官員）
怎麼不在停車場裏講？ You didn't want to do this in a parking garage?
停車場可沒有泰式美食能享受 If there was one that served Pad Thai, I would.
當死老百姓的生活如何？ How's civilian life?
我的退休生活十分短暫 My retirement lasted about four hours.
你去了奈特裏德報業？ You're with Knight Ridder?
我連張辦公桌都還沒有 I don't even have a desk yet. How the hell do you know that?
我自有方法 我連張辦公桌都還沒有 I don't even have a desk yet. How the hell do you know that?
你是怎麼知道這事的？ I have my ways. 我自有方法
你一直有在關注我們？ You been following what we're doing over there? 我自有方法
你一直有在關注我們？ You been following what we're doing over there?
是，我有 ﹣然後呢？ Yes, I have.
你們倆大概能挽救新聞自由吧 And?
You two may be singlehandedly saving...
the Fourth Estate from extinction.
主流媒體完全不鳥我們在查的事 Mainstream media hasn't picked up a thing we been running.
由此可知你調查方向是對的 Should be all the confirmation you need...
that you're onto something.
我能為你做什麼？ What can I do for you?
我們需要一些來自上層的情報 We need some help with the higher ups.
多上層？ How high?
越高越好 High as you can get us.
你在這行混很久了，喬 You've been around a long time, Joe.
應該沒有任何事會出乎你意料 I doubt there's anything there that'll surprise you.
我前妻就以為新罕布夏州是麻州首都 I was married one time to a woman who thought...
New Hampshire was the capital of Massachusetts.
世上總有許多意想不到的事 There's always something you don't see coming.
你想知道什麼？ What do you want to know?
所有政府不想讓我們知道的事 Everything the administration doesn't want us to know.
看來這頓飯得吃很久了 You and I are going to be eating a lot of Pad Thai.
我們要關注的是哪個時間點？ What kind of time frame are we looking at?
（國會助理） 下個月國會將投票決定 Next month, Congress is scheduled to vote...
此次是否同意總統發動戰爭 on whether or not to give the president...
會有人同意嗎？ the authorization to go to war.
政府認為有 Are the votes there?
The administration thinks so.
總統先生，三十八年前 Mr. President, 38 years ago, I, Robert C. Byrd...
（參議員勞勃伯德反對進軍伊拉克） （2002年10月10日） 總統先生，三十八年前 Mr. President, 38 years ago, I, Robert C. Byrd...
我勞勃伯德 voted on the Tonkin Gulf Resolution.
曾投票贊成北部灣決議案 我勞勃伯德 voted on the Tonkin Gulf Resolution.
此決議授權總統 The resolution that authorized the president to use military...
以武力鎮壓北越武裝 此決議授權總統 The resolution that authorized the president to use military...
以武力鎮壓北越武裝
force to repel armed attacks... 以武力鎮壓北越武裝
防止共產主義進一步侵略東南亞 and to prevent further communist aggression in Southeast Asia. 以武力鎮壓北越武裝
防止共產主義進一步侵略東南亞 and to prevent further communist aggression in Southeast Asia.
針對我國是否以武力對抗伊拉克 A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States...
armed forces against Iraq should be brought to a close.
現將進行決議 armed forces against Iraq should be brought to a close.
交由司儀唱票 The clerk will call the roll. 現將進行決議
交由司儀唱票 The clerk will call the roll.
拜登先生贊成、柯林頓太太贊成 Mr. Biden, aye.
Mrs. Clinton, aye.
正是這個決議 It was this resolution that provided the basis...
為美國參與越戰打下基礎 for American involvement in the war in Vietnam.
柯瑞先生贊成、萊柏曼贊成 Mr. Kerry, aye.
Mr. Lieberman, aye.
洛特先生贊成 Mr. Lott, aye.
正是這個決議 It was this resolution...
讓5萬8千名美國軍人喪命 that lead to the deaths of 58,000 Americans.
麥坎先生贊成、麥康諾先生贊成 Mr. McCain, aye.
Mr. McConnell, aye.
這些傷亡讓我們認清 After all that carnage, we began to learn that in voting...
這個北部灣決議案 for the Tonkin Gulf resolution...
我們的投票建立於不良的情報上 we were basing our votes on bad information.
而歷史正在重演 And history is repeating itself.
桑托倫先生贊成 Mr. Santorum, aye.
我期盼參議員們走出國會 I urge senators to go down on the Capital Mall...
到越戰紀念碑去看一看 and look at the Vietnam Memorial.
幾乎每一天你都能看到 Nearly every day, you will find someone at that wall...
有人在為逝去的摯愛哀悼 weeping for a loved one.
賽遜先生贊成 Mr. Sessions, aye.
我永遠記得韋恩摩士參議員說的 I will always remember the words of Senator Wayne Morse.
史貝克先生贊成 Mr. Specter, aye.
「表決通過後，投下贊成票的人」 He stated, "The resolution will pass and senators...
「將終其一生為此後悔」 "who vote for it will live to regret it."
我們有匿名線報和情報員的說詞 We got K-10, we got Dixie, we don't need another source.
不需要其他消息來源 You know we got this.
你要指控的可是國防部長 不需要其他消息來源 You know we got this.
明明已經可以上了 ﹣聽著 Look, when you're accusing the secretary of defense... 你要指控的可是國防部長
明明已經可以上了 ﹣聽著 Look, when you're accusing the secretary of defense...
在五角大廈外運作一個秘密組織 of running a shadow intelligence unit...
有點保險總是比較好 out of the Pentagon, it's nice to have a little insurance.
我要說的只是這樣而已 That's all I'm saying.
好吧，把報導發給集團報社吧 All right, let's share it with the rest of the class.
你要告訴他們嗎？ You want to tell them?
今早，我被傳喚到五角大廈 Earlier today, I was summoned to the Pentagon.
誰傳喚你？ By whom?
國防部長，那個老油條說 Rumsfeld, Ol' Limp Dick sent a message saying...
「你的線人都是些退役將軍」 "All your sources are retired generals."
我回答，恕我直言 And I said, "All due respect, sir...
我的內線有八成是現役軍人 "80% of my sources are active military."
有的人在這棟樓裏工作 "Some of them are working in this building...
有的人甚至是你的手下 "and some of them are actually working on your staff."
噢，還有一兩個可能在這房間裏呢 "And hell, one or two of them might even be in this room."
房裏真的有線人？ Did you actually have sources in the room?
沒有 No, but it was fun watching him sweat like whores in church.
但我爽看他們被唬住的表情 沒有 No, but it was fun watching him sweat like whores in church.
但我爽看他們被唬住的表情
關於那個秘密戰略小組 How close are we to getting something we can run with
我們有多少可靠材料？ on the Office of Special Plans?
我們有… Well, we already got...
我們還得再多確認幾條線報 No, we're just gonna check with a couple more sources.
手上有的出了什麼問題？ What's wrong with the sources you have?
我們只是想要更肯定 Well, we just want to be certain.
你們要報導的東西可是很大條的 You know, you sit on a story like this, the dam bursts.
好好幹吧，孩子們 Let's just move on this, okay, boys?
你什麼時候忙完？ When are you gonna be finished?
Just a few more minutes, baby.
再一下下，親愛的 Just a few more minutes, baby.
我睡不著，螢幕太亮了 I can't sleep with the computer light on.
其實，我寫完了 Actually, I'm done.
你在忙什麼？ So, what are you working on?
國防部長有個秘密情報小組 Rumsfeld has a secret Intel group that's going...
不受控於中情局 around the CIA to manufacture a case for war.
專門處理這次戰爭 不受控於中情局 around the CIA to manufacture a case for war.
搞什麼？強納森 What the fuck, Jonathan?
怎麼了？ What?
你有在電話上說過這事嗎 Have you been talking about this on the phone?
有啊，怎麼了嗎 Yeah, of course.
So, what?
他們會監聽你 - They will hear you. - Vlatka.
親愛的 他們會監聽你 - They will hear you. - Vlatka.
你在追查情報組織的內哄 You're writing about infighting between spy agencies.
所以呢 So?
他們是情報組織，強納森 They're spy agencies, Jonathan.
他們監控你的電話和信件 They listen to your calls, they read your emails.
說不定監聽我們家 They probably bugged this house.
你太誇張了 You're being paranoid.
你太天真了 You're being naive.
這裏不是南斯拉夫，是美國 This isn't Yugoslavia, this is America.
美國變了 America has changed.
戰爭是筆大生意 War is big business for them.
你要是阻撓，他們就會除掉你 You get in their way, they're gonna kill you.
親愛的，你太誇張了 Honey, you are being ridiculous. All right? Come on.
過來 Don't you get it?
你還不懂嗎？ 過來 Don't you get it?
你還不知道他們的能耐嗎 You know what these people are capable of?
你有家庭！ You have a family!
親愛的 Vlatka. Vlatka!
薇拉卡！ 親愛的 Vlatka. Vlatka!
薇拉卡！
你看起來很慘，怎麼了 Oh, somebody's struggling. What's the matter?
薇拉卡害我整晚沒睡 Oh, Vlatka kept me up all night.
好喔 All right!
別想歪，是在講陰謀論 No, not that like that. It was conspiracy theories.
什麼陰謀論？ About what?
她覺得政府會監聽我們 Oh... she thinks the government is monitoring us.
這真的很扯 I mean, it's ridiculous.
收一下信 Check your email.
（去死吧！你這賣國賊）
約翰，快看看這個 John, you got to see this.
等一下 Oh, hold on a second.
我實在不想再討論這件事 Arthur, I really don't want to have this conversation again.
他掛我電話 He hung up. What is it?
怎麼了？ 他掛我電話 He hung up. What is it?
我們該怎麼辦？ What do we do?
（叛國賊）
你好孬 ﹣你才是 - You're such a wuss. - You're a wuss.
你最孬 ﹣閉嘴 You're a much bigger wuss.
別說了，幼稚死了 Shut up, will you stop it, you're being a child.
你簡直是… ﹣閉嘴啦 - You're being a... - Shut up!
今日聯合國安理會決議 Today's UN Security Council resolution...
可用四字總結：時間緊迫 can be boiled down to four words, the clock is ticking.
布希總統今日清楚表示 Iraq's only alternative to full compliance, President Bush...
伊拉克不願放棄軍事武裝 made clear today, is of military confrontation.
解除伊拉克武裝的行動將展開 The full disarmament of weapons of mass destruction...
by Iraq will occur.
唯一的問題是伊拉克政府 The only question for the Iraqi regime is to decide how.
會選擇如何結束 唯一的問題是伊拉克政府 The only question for the Iraqi regime is to decide how.
會選擇如何結束
（國防部成立情報組織）
該死 Son of a bitch.
他們搶先一步 They beat us.
但他們刻意避開組織的內幕 But they missed the whole point of why the unit was set up.
不重要了，他們已經報了 It doesn't matter, they got the scoop.
什麼頭條？ With what?
他們沒寫選擇性取用情報的事 There's nothing about cherry picking intelligence.
也沒寫他們獨立運作於其他單位 There's nothing about bypassing other agencies.
我們還是可以報導我們的 We can still run ours.
強納森，沒人會在意二手追蹤報導 John, no one's gonna pay attention...
to a second story explaining all that.
本來是我們的 We had it.
可惡，約翰一定會氣炸 Goddamn it, Walcott's gonna be pissed.
他可能還沒發現 Maybe he hadn't seen it yet.
他怎麼整天都不來找我們？ How is it possible he hasn't talked to us all day?
他對我們無話可說了 He's giving us the silent treatment.
靠，他來了 Oh, shit, here he comes.
天啊 Oh, Jesus.
這本來是你們的報導 You had the story.
別忘了被打敗的感覺 Don't ever forget how it feels to get beat.
國會的情報來源是內閣 The only information Congress is getting...
is coming directly from the administration.
伊拉克國土跟法國差不多大 Iraq is a huge country about the size of France...
他們想藏匿大規模殺傷性武器 if they want to hide their weapons of mass destruction...
絕對是辦得到的 they're going to be able to do so.
他們不會質疑自己的立場 They're not going to rethink their positions...
除非他們得到其他情報 unless they are provided with independent intel.
沒有人希望看到戰爭 No one who's supported the authorization for war...
在國會、在伊拉克都是 in Congress, in Iraq, not the president...
他絕不是個想開戰就開戰的總統 I am sure would go to war just because he wants to go to war.
國防部長洗腦大家說 Rumsfeld's been trying to sell this idea that an Iraqi...
伊拉克從99年起一直庇護賓拉登 intelligence officer offered bin Laden safe haven in '99.
如果那是真的 Yeah.
Well, if that offer actually had happened...
賓拉登早就反客為主幹掉海珊了 bin Laden would have told Saddam to go fuck himself.
伊拉克表示並未擁有及發展核武 What do you make of the statement made...
by the Iraqi government that Iraq has no weapons...
您如何看待？ of mass destruction and is not developing?
他們說謊 They're lying.
下一個問題 Next.
你女兒真漂亮 Your daughter is lovely.
真希望是遺傳到我，但她像媽媽 Well, I wish I could take credit.
She gets it from her mother.
要喝點什麼嗎，爸？ Dad, can I get you anything?
不用謝謝，親愛的 - Oh, no, thanks, sweetie. - Mr. Strobel?
那您呢？ - I'm fine. - All right.
不用了 ﹣好的 那您呢？ - I'm fine. - All right.
只是即興演出 Just real casual.
我跟湯姆正好在討論你們的報導 Tom and I were just talking about your latest article.
是嗎？ Oh, yeah?
看來你們不相信政治人物 Seems like you don't trust politicians.
這是身為記者的基本條件 Well, that's a pretty solid rule of journalism.
就算他們講的是戰爭？ Even when they're talking about war?
尤其是他們講的是戰爭 Especially when they're talking about war.
你認為沒有大規模毀滅性武器？ You really believe there's no WMD?
我們的立場已經很清楚了 Our names are on the article.
他們不是說沒有武器 They don't say that there's no WMD.
他們是說政府沒拿出證據 They just said that the administration...
hasn't offered any proof of WMD.
難道你認為政府找不到證據嗎 And you don't think they'll find any?
對，我認為找不到 No, I don't.
你怎麼知道 You don't know that.
我是不知道 No, we don't.
但在把孩子們送去打仗前 But before we send our kids to their possible deaths...
你不覺得政府有義務證明嗎 don't you think the administration...
has an obligation to provide proof of their rationale?
萬一證據就是核彈直接炸過來呢 What if that proof comes in the form of a mushroom cloud?
好吧，你一定看了福斯新聞 Okay, you've been watching Fox News again?
國安顧問、副總統 Rice, Cheney, and President Bush have all said the same thing.
和布希總統的說法一致 國安顧問、副總統 Rice, Cheney, and President Bush have all said the same thing.
是喔，那就是事實了嗎 Oh, well, then it must be true.
你們太年輕了 You kids are too young to remember...
根本不記得62年的核武威脅 你們太年輕了 You kids are too young to remember...
how close we came to nuclear war in '62. 根本不記得62年的核武威脅
how close we came to nuclear war in '62.
華恩，你出生的那天 Hell, Warren, you were born the very day...
就是甘迺迪宣佈封鎖古巴的日子 President Kennedy ordered the blockade against Cuba.
當時我們最大的敵人 The most powerful enemy we knew was gonna put nuclear weapons...
要在我們的外海佈署核彈 90 miles off our coast.
甘迺迪必須強硬起來 The president had to demonstrate strength.
隔天他派人前往聯合國 And the next day, Kennedy sent Adlai Stevenson to the U.N...
提供核彈的證據 to offer proof that the missiles existed.
這可不是只有福斯報導 It's not just Fox News.
華盛頓郵報、紐約時報都有 It's the Washington Post. It's The New York Times.
拜託，各大媒體都有證據 Hell, proof is coming from every major media outlet...
in the country, except yours.
除了你的報導 in the country, except yours.
除了你的報導
好吧 Okay.
Uh, I think I forgot the hamburger buns, excuse me.
我忘了拿麵包，失陪一下 Uh, I think I forgot the hamburger buns, excuse me.
我要去喝一杯 I'm going to grab a beer.
天啊，爸 Jesus, Dad.
你還好嗎，兄弟？ ﹣嗯 Are you okay, bro?
Yeah.
我們是好記者嗎？ Are we good reporters?
什麼？ What?
我是說 I mean, are we doing anything...
我們不就是在實踐新聞理念嗎？ other than practicing good journalism?
我們做的就是該做的事 No, we're doing exactly what we're supposed...
但為何只有我們在追這些真相？ Then, why the fuck are we the only ones...
running these fucking stories?!
他只是想在你們更進一步之前 He just wanted you to see all sides to him...
展現出自己的真面目 before you take it to the next level.
近三個月前 Almost three months ago, the United Nations...
（國情咨文） 聯合國安全理事會 Security Council gave Saddam Hussein...
給了海珊最後一次機會繳械 his final chance to disarm.
我們的情報單位也評估認為 Our intelligence officials estimate...
海珊擁有發展核武的設備… that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce...
讓聯合國檢查武器有什麼意義？ What's the point of having U.N. weapons inspections...
布希政府早就打算徹底忽略真相 if Bush and Cheney are just going to ignore the results?
當你想創造另一個版本的真相時 Well, when you're creating your own reality...
很容易會忽略掉事實 it's pretty easy to ignore the facts.
所以呢？ And so what? Due diligence is too inconvenient...
主流媒體就懶得就調查事實了嗎 所以呢？ And so what? Due diligence is too inconvenient...
for the mainstream media at this point? 主流媒體就懶得就調查事實了嗎
for the mainstream media at this point?
當媒體變成營利工具時… When news is a profit center...
情報就是金錢 Access becomes currency.
沒錯 Exactly.
我以你為榮，約翰 I'm proud of you, John.
怎麼說？ Why?
你臨危不亂，這是場硬仗 For not wavering.
也沒有那麼硬 It's got to be tough.
It's not that tough.
我很清楚我們和他們的不同 I know who their sources are and I know who our sources are.
「伊拉克反海珊人士與布希談話後」 "Iraqi Dissidents Reassured in a Talk with Bush...
「對後海珊時代感到放心」 "About the Post-Hussein Era."
紐約時報朱迪思米勒 By Judith Miller.
為了扣伊拉克的帽子 She'd quote a carnival fortune teller...
她連算命師的鬼話都能引用吧 if he was willing to say Iraq had WMD.
我們得深入分析已經解密的情資 We gotta dig into the declassified...
看看還有沒有料可挖 national intelligence estimate...
and find out if there are any gems in there.
好，我倒想看看他們竄改了什麼 Yeah, I'd love to see...
what they redacted from the classified version.
你們跟查拉比聯繫上了嗎 Oh, what's going on with Chalabi?
正在嘗試 We're on it.
我會盯著我的國務卿前老闆 I'm gonna keep an eye on my old boss.
有種預感會出事 ﹣是啊 - I got a feeling. - Yeah...
科林鮑威爾可能是最後防線 Colin may be the last person standing between peace and war.
是啊 Yeah.
（美國堅持解除伊拉克武裝）
（反海珊人士強化美國立場）
該死 Goddamn it!
可惡！ Fuck!
市長決定籌資晚會日期了嗎 Angela, did the mayor set a date...
亞瑟，我完全搞錯了 for the fundraiser yet?
Hey, Arthur, I was totally wrong.
你的腦子竟然不是長在屁屁上耶 Your head isn't literally up your ass.
很高興見到你 It's always a pleasure to see you, John...
但可以先在外面等嗎 but would you please wait outside?
徹底忽略我們的報導已經夠糟了 You know, it's bad enough you're ignoring all our work...
但跟進紐約時報那套狗屁 but the fact that you're running these bullshit...
實在太超過 Judy Miller pieces is unconscionable.
別在這說行嗎，約翰？ Not in here, John. Okay, please?
到辦公室說 Let's take it in my office. Excuse me.
不好意思 到辦公室說 Let's take it in my office. Excuse me.
天啊 Jesus.
就算你很難接受 Look, as painful as this might seem...
但我沒義務回應你，約翰 I don't answer to you, John.
對，你就是佔著茅坑不拉屎 Yes, as evidenced by the fact that you still have a job.
我只需要對讀者負責 You know what, my responsibility is to my readers.
我們的讀者是愛國人士 They're citizens who are patriots...
還有支持國軍的民眾 they're citizens who support our troops.
那你怎麼還能刊那些東西？ And how do you do that, Arthur?
跟紐約時報同聲一氣？ By going down on The New York Times?
我沒空跟你吵 ﹣對，你沒空 I don't have time for this.
你沒空 No, you don't have time.
知道嗎，總有一天 You don't have time.
紐約時報會跟讀者道歉 You know, one day, The New York Times...
is going to apologize to its readers.
等到那天，你會自己寫道歉函嗎 And when that day comes, are you gonna write your own apology?
還是照抄他們的道歉啟事？ Or are you just going to run theirs?
慢走不送，約翰 Have a nice day, John.
伊拉克戰爭似乎越來越無可避免 It is beginning to look more and more as though...
war with Iraq is inevitable.
與伊拉克的攤牌 The Showdown with Iraq and the countdown to a speech...
以及國務卿鮑威爾將發表的談話 by Secretary of State Colin Powell...
讓各國距離開戰又更近一步 that could move the world closer to war.
國軍目前正在等待進攻指示 There's not much left for the soldiers to do but wait...
for orders to attack, Ryan Chillcoat reports...
根據記者在科威特美軍營地報導 for orders to attack, Ryan Chillcoat reports...
真讓人洩氣 That's so frustrating.
我不知道能否完成你在做的事 I don't know that I could do what you do.
有次我想挑戰全國最長健行路線 You know, I once got it in my head...
that I should hike the Appalachian Trail.
覺得那是很好的自我挑戰 Thought that it would just be a good challenge for myself.
但當我看到地圖上那條路超長 Then I look at it on a map and it's like 2200 miles.
我就覺得 I realized...
感覺像要走一輩子？ ﹣對 That it would take a lifetime?
Yeah.
我們可以一起走 Or we could walk it together.
一言為定 I'm gonna hold you to that.
目前全球 Worldwide resistance is mounting...
全球反對美國開戰聲浪四起 against America's military intervention into Iraq.
從美國到歐洲及中東 From US cities to Europe and the Middle East...
示威者走上街頭 demonstrators have taken to the streets in opposition...
抗議美國進軍伊拉克 to the United States' threat to invade Iraq.
（伊拉克國民大會辦公室）
兩位先生，你們好 ﹣你好 Mr. Strobel, Mr. Landay, how do you do?
我是因特法坎巴，請跟我來 - Hello. - I'm Entifadh Qanbar.
- Hi. - Now, please, follow me.
這傢伙是誰啊？ Who's this dude?
外送小弟，不蓋你 Guy who used to deliver pizzas. I'm not kidding.
查拉比主席 Minister Chalabi, Mr. Jonathan Landay...
這兩位是奈特裏德報業記者 and Warren Strobel from Knight Ridder News.
歡迎兩位 Gentlemen, welcome.
（艾哈邁德查拉比，伊拉克國民大會創辦人） Hey. Thank you for finally agreeing to meet with us.
感謝你終於同意會面 （艾哈邁德查拉比，伊拉克國民大會創辦人） Hey. Thank you for finally agreeing to meet with us.
我太忙了 I've been very busy.
忙著接受其他媒體訪問 Talking to our competitors.
我接受所有媒體訪問 I speak with whomever wishes to speak with me.
畢竟我沒什麼好隱瞞的 After all, I have nothing to hide...
至少比海珊誠實多了 which is more than I can say for Saddam.
既然你都提到他了 Okay, well, since you brought him up...
我們可以來談談他的武器 I thought we might talk about what...
還有他是如何藏匿武器的 you know about his weapons and how he might be hiding them.
他確實有武器並藏匿它們 He has WMD and he's hiding them, that I know.
據我所知 他確實有武器並藏匿它們 He has WMD and he's hiding them, that I know.
你怎麼知道的？ Right, and you know that how?
我知道所有發生在我國家的事 I know everything that's happening in my country.
即使過去十年你人不在伊拉克？ Even though Iraq hasn't been your country for over a decade?
我雖被放逐，但仍是伊拉克人 I may be an exile, but I'm still an Iraqi.
我想我同事的問題是 Well, I think the point my colleague is trying to make...
身為海珊敵人又遭放逐 is how would you, an enemy of Saddam, in exile...
你如何獲取重要資訊？ have access to such valuable information?
我與異議人士的情報單位有聯繫 I maintain close relationships...
with dissident intelligence sources.
我們能核查嗎？ Is there a way we can verify that?
不能 No.
這對我們來說行不通 See, that's kind of a problem for us...
我們不能寫一篇… because we can't write a story...
我要的跟美國一樣 I want what America wants, a free and democratic Iraq.
一個自由民主的伊拉克 我要的跟美國一樣 I want what America wants, a free and democratic Iraq.
並由你來執政？ With you as its leader?
若伊拉克人民希望的話 If the people of Iraq wish for me to return, yes.
我希望有機會重建我的國家 I want the opportunity to help rebuild my country...
就像曼德拉為南非做的 the way Mandela did in South Africa.
曼德拉可沒叫美國攻打南非 But Mandela didn't ask the U.S. to invade his country.
他沒在對抗恐怖分子 He wasn't fighting terrorists.
恕我直言 With all due respect, that's where the red flags...
這是我們開始覺得有問題的地方 start to go up for us.
你認為我為了私利製造假消息嗎 Are you implying that I've created a false narrative...
for my own pursuits?
除了私利還能有什麼其他原因 Is there another reason why you'd create a false narrative?
我沒有說謊！ I don't lie!
海珊擁有移動生化武器實驗室 Saddam Hussein has mobile chemical...
and biological weapons labs.
他有核武計劃 He has a nuclear program. He has ties to terrorists.
還與恐怖分子密切聯繫 他有核武計劃 He has a nuclear program. He has ties to terrorists.
還與恐怖分子密切聯繫
如果你不相信我 And if you don't believe me, just ask the many other... 還與恐怖分子密切聯繫
如果你不相信我 And if you don't believe me, just ask the many other...
就去問其他異議人士 如果你不相信我 And if you don't believe me, just ask the many other...
聽聽他們怎麼說 defectors and hear what they say. 就去問其他異議人士
聽聽他們怎麼說 defectors and hear what they say.
他們會告訴你一模一樣的話 They will all tell you the same thing.
他們的資訊來源不就是你嗎 Don't they all get their information from you?
我不想跟你們見面的原因 If you were wondering why it took so long for me...
to meet with you, it's this smug attitude.
大概就是你這臭跩的態度 to meet with you, it's this smug attitude.
你們根本不想報導我的立場 You have no intention of reporting anything I've said.
你要記者當你的啦啦隊嗎？ Do you want us to just be your cheerleaders?
好吧，我們該走了 All right, I think we should go.
感謝你撥空 Thank you for your time.
可想而知為何沒人讀你們的報導 Now I see why no one reads anything you write.
我倡導推翻獨裁者 I am an advocate for the removal of a vicious dictator...
解放伊拉克 for a free Iraq, an Iraq that will one day be a close ally...
讓伊拉克成為美國、以色列 解放伊拉克 for a free Iraq, an Iraq that will one day be a close ally...
to your country, to Israel, and to all of the Western world. 讓伊拉克成為美國、以色列
to your country, to Israel, and to all of the Western world.
和西方世界的盟友 to your country, to Israel, and to all of the Western world.
推翻海珊後這一切就能達成嗎 And exactly how will this happen after Saddam Hussein is gone?
走吧，強納森 All right, come on, Landay.
不，他說要世界大同 No, no, no, he says the world will be better off...
但他沒說怎麼做到 but he doesn't say how.
推翻海珊伊拉克不會陷入內戰嗎 How would the removal of Saddam Hussein...
not plunge Iraq into a bloody civil war?
你總得講出一番道理啊 Tell us something that makes sense...
你講得出來，我們馬上就報導 anything that makes sense, and we'll write that story today.
你講不出來！ You can't!
因為你根本不知接下來會如何 Because you have no idea what happens next.
沒人會知道！ ﹣強納森 - And neither does anyone else. - John. John!
我寧願回去寫高中作文 I would rather go back and write for my high school paper...
也不幫你寫狗屁洗腦文給讀者看 than to be used by you...
to sell the American public your bullshit.
好了 All right.
對了，我們是奈特裏德報業 By the way, it's Knight Ridder.
國務卿鮑威爾將在電視轉播中 Secretary of State Colin Powell will make the case...
against Iraq in a nationally televised address...
向安理會提出對伊拉克的指控 against Iraq in a nationally televised address...
to the UN Security Council. 向安理會提出對伊拉克的指控
to the UN Security Council.
看來他們又更進一步了 Looks like they're bringing in the closer.
國務卿先生 Mr. Secretary, are you confident...
您是否有信心能提案成功？ you will make your case, sir?
看了就知道 You'll see.
我們是為誰辛苦為誰忙啊？ What the hell game have we've been playing?
我們做的事連屁都稱不上 All we did is piss into the wind.
我們盡力了 We did our jobs.
我真不該干記者 I should never have become a reporter.
都怪揭穿水門案的兩個前輩 Damn that Woodward and Bernstein.
尼克森最糟的作為 They took down a president whose biggest crime...
是掩蓋自己骯髒的政治手段 was trying to cover up some dirty political tricks.
而現任總統則將作出史上最糟的決策 This president's about to do the worst thing any president...
而且還可能連任 could do and he'll probably get re-elected.
敬親身試驗民主 To the democratic experiment.
謝謝你，總統先生 Thank you, Mr. President.
（聯合國，2003年2月5日） 各位同仁，我今日所言 My colleagues, every statement I make today...
都其來有自，鐵證如山 is backed up by sources, solid sources.
此刻事態嚴重 The gravity of this moment is matched by the gravity...
伊拉克正以毀滅性武器威脅全球 of the threat that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction...
pose to the world.
那是場騙局，一切都是騙局 It was a set up, the whole damn thing was a set up.
情報總監寄給鮑威爾一堆資料 Tenet sent Powell a stack of files this high...
用來支持進軍伊拉克 that supported the invasion.
海珊執意發展核武 Saddam Hussein is determined...
to get his hands on a nuclear bomb.
而副總統派他的手下 Cheney sent Scooter Libby...
在資料中加入三項論點 to push three main arguments in those files.
第一，海珊侵犯人權 One: Saddam's human rights abuses...
大家早就知道了 which everybody knew about.
第二，他與蓋達組織有關 Two: his links to al Qaeda, which Powell...
鮑威爾直接忽略 of course, threw right in the trash.
第三點跟毀滅性武器有關 And the third focused on Iraq's WMD.
不能讓海珊長期坐擁毀滅性武器 Leaving Saddam Hussein in possession of weapons...
of mass destruction for a few more months or years...
is not an option, not in a post-September 11th world.
尤其在發生911事件之後 is not an option, not in a post-September 11th world.
四天之中 Over a four-day period, Powell made every single CIA officer... 尤其在發生911事件之後
四天之中 Over a four-day period, Powell made every single CIA officer...
鮑威爾叫每個情報局官員 四天之中 Over a four-day period, Powell made every single CIA officer...
鮑威爾叫每個情報局官員
來替他們所謂的證據背書 defend every so-called piece of evidence in those files. 鮑威爾叫每個情報局官員
來替他們所謂的證據背書 defend every so-called piece of evidence in those files.
有80%證據都被他扔了 He threw out 80% of them.
四天過後 At the end of the four days...
鮑威爾去找中央情報總監 Powell looked Tenet right in the eye and said...
對他說，「喬治」 "George, can we stand by every word of this?"
「剩下的這些都是可信的嗎？」 對他說，「喬治」 "George, can we stand by every word of this?"
中央情報總監回答 And Tenet said, "Everything in there is gold, I promise you."
「鐵證如山，我保證」 中央情報總監回答 And Tenet said, "Everything in there is gold, I promise you."
鮑威爾於是說 To which Powell replied, "Well, that's good, George. 「鐵證如山，我保證」
鮑威爾於是說 To which Powell replied, "Well, that's good, George.
「幹得好，很高興你這麼說」 "I'm glad you feel that way, 'cause you're going to be...
「我對全世界發表證據時」 "sitting right behind me when I present this to the world."
「你得當我的後盾」 「我對全世界發表證據時」 "sitting right behind me when I present this to the world."
我們不應該將責任 We must not fail in our duty and our responsibility... 「你得當我的後盾」
我們不應該將責任 We must not fail in our duty and our responsibility...
推卸給由我所代表的國家公民 to the citizens of the countries...
that are represented by this body.
鮑威爾以一擋百 Colin took one for the team.
果然是個好將軍 Always the good soldier.
伊拉克是否已無條件解除武裝？ Has the Iraqi regime fully...
and unconditionally disarmed?
唯一可接受的結果即是 The only acceptable outcome is the one already defined...
安理會一致投票通過的結果 by a unanimous vote of the Security Council.
徹底解除武裝 Total disarmament.
英國、西班牙和我國 Great Britain, Spain and the United States have introduced..
共同提出一項新決議 a new resolution stating that Iraq has failed to meet...
即控訴伊拉克未依約解除武裝 共同提出一項新決議 a new resolution stating that Iraq has failed to meet...
即控訴伊拉克未依約解除武裝
the requirements of Resolution 1441. 即控訴伊拉克未依約解除武裝
the requirements of Resolution 1441.
這是無法辯駁的事實 This is a fact, it cannot be denied.
（2003年3月6日） 何不對海珊下達最後通牒？ And what harm would it do to give...
Saddam a final ultimatum?
給他兩三天期限再進攻 A two or three day deadline to disarm or face force?
911事件就我而言改變了… September the 11th changed the strategic thinking...
如何保護國家的戰略思維 at least as far as I was concerned...
for how to protect our country.
我的責任是保護美國人民 My job is to protect the American people.
以前我們認為可以容忍海珊 Used to be that we could think that you could contain...
a person like Saddam Hussein...
以為隔著大海他就無法威脅我們 that oceans would protect us from his type of terror.
911事件讓美國人知道… September the 11th should say to the American people...
喂？ Hello?
你得打包出發了 You need to pack your bags.
好吧 Right.
恐怖組織的魔爪已深入家園 In the hands of a terrorist organization...
could be deployed here at home.
約翰金 King, John King. This is a scripted...
這是內定的 約翰金 King, John King. This is a scripted...
謝謝，總統先生 Thank you, Mr. President.
請問您如何回應某些人的疑慮 Sir, how would you answer your critics who say that they...
他們認為這場戰爭是私怨 They think this is somehow personal?
有參議員認為 As Senator Kennedy put it tonight...
您對海珊的執念造成世界大亂 he said your fixation with Saddam Hussein...
is making the world a more dangerous place.
您告知人民可能將發生戰爭 And as you prepare the American people for the possibility...
能否也告訴我們您內閣的分析 of military conflict, could you share with us...
any of the scenarios your advisors have shared...
戰爭所引發最壞的狀況是什麼 with you about worst-case scenarios?
你要確保… You make sure the... this country knows what's going on out there.
這個國家的人知道真相 你要確保… You make sure the... this country knows what's going on out there.
這個國家的人知道真相
好嗎？ ﹣我會的 - Yeah? - I will.
我發誓要保衛國家 I swore to protect and defend the Constitution.
他擁有並使用毀滅性武器 He has weapons of mass destruction...
and he has used weapons of mass destruction.
他曾資助類似蓋達的恐怖組織 He has trained and financed...
al Qaeda-type organizations before.
我嚴肅地看待恐怖威脅 I take the threat seriously, and I'll deal with the threat.
我會與之周旋 I hope it can be done peacefully.
當然我希望能和平落幕 我會與之周旋 I hope it can be done peacefully.
他們痛恨我們的理念 They hate what we stand for.
我們是自由國家，這不會改變 We love freedom, and we're not changing.
總統先生，美國人民都記得 Mr. President, millions of Americans can...
當年領導人們都贊成介入越戰 recall a time when leaders from both parties set this country..
on a mission of regime change in Vietnam.
五萬美國人為此喪命 50,000 Americans died.
現今越共仍然掌控越南 The regime is still there in Hanoi and it hasn't harmed...
但自越戰結束三十年來 or threatened a single American in 30 years...
絲毫沒有威脅到美國 since the war ended.
請問您是否能向越戰軍人的子女保證 What can you say tonight, sir, to the sons and daughters...
of the Americans who served in Vietnam to assure them that...
他們不會在伊拉克戰爭中 you will not lead this country down a similar path in Iraq?
遭逢與當年類似的下場？ 他們不會在伊拉克戰爭中 you will not lead this country down a similar path in Iraq?
這是個好問題 That's a great question.
我深知任何軍事行動都有風險 No doubt, there's risks with any military operation.
他根本沒當過兵還能天花亂墜 I know that.
It's a good thing he can draw on all that experience he got...
while not serving in the National Guard.
但我們的目標很明確 But it's very clear what we intend to do.
我們的任務不會改變 And our mission won't change.
這可能持續六天或六周 It could last, you know, six days, six weeks...
但不會是六個月 I doubt six months.
這很花錢 There's a lot of money to pay for this...
但不一定要花納稅人的錢 that doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money.
這個國家能負擔得起重建 We're dealing with a country that can really finance...
（保羅伍佛維茲，國防副部長） 而且過程會非常快 its own reconstruction, and relatively soon.
他何時會取得核武是有些爭議 There will always be some uncertainty...
about how quickly he can acquire nuclear weapons...
但我們可不希望被炸 but we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud.
你認為美國人是否已準備好 Do you think the America people...
面對漫長、高代價、血腥 are prepared for a long, costly, and bloody battle...
和傷亡慘重的戰爭？ with significant American casualties?
我不認為會那樣發展 I don't think it's likely to unfold that way, Tim...
我認為我們會被視為解放者 because I really do believe we will be greeted as liberators.
戰爭開始的六周後 Six weeks after the war had begun, the President...
總統將在航空母艦上發表演說 is set to deliver a very carefully worded speech...
on a carrier in the Pacific.
親愛的美國人民 My fellow Americans, major combat operations...
伊拉克主要作戰行動已經結束 in Iraq have ended.
在伊拉克戰爭中 In the battle of Iraq, the United States...
美國和盟友們取得勝利 and our allies have prevailed.
（任務完成）
我想過去那邊 I want to go down there.
他們是第一批赴死的人 They were the first to die.
你也有去打越戰嗎？ Were you there?
謝謝你 Thank you.
也謝謝你，孩子 Thank you, son.
人們終於明白
在戰爭發生的18個月前
強納森蘭德、華恩史卓柏
喬蓋洛威和約翰沃克特
所報導的都是真相
紐約時報最終向讀者道歉
死傷的數字持續增加
17年，軍隊仍在作戰
目前正在未開發地區對抗ISIS
兩兆，戰爭所有的花費
超過3萬6千，美軍死傷人數
一百萬，伊拉剋死與於戰爭人數
0，並未找到毀滅性武器
強納森，身為在追求真相過程中 Jonathan, how did it feel, therefore...
to be the lone holdouts in this pursuit of truth and fact?
唯一堅持不懈的人，感覺如何？ to be the lone holdouts in this pursuit of truth and fact?
（華恩史卓柏，強納森蘭德） 很孤單，而且最諷刺的是 It was very lonely and what made it actually one...
每次我們做了報導 of the ironies is...
that every time we would write something...
白宮都不回應 the White House would say nothing, because we realized...
因為那就會變成我們最好的廣告 after a while that that would have been the best...
我們求之不得 advertising for our stories we could have possibly asked for.
華盛頓的新聞情報一向很有問題 There's a problem with journalism...
紐約時報和其他媒體 in Washington, which is access.
And The New York Times and others had access to the top...
則都被政府官員洗腦 officials who were spinning this line.
我們也訪問過那些人 We talked to those people, as well...
但大多數消息來源還是 but most of our reporting, Christiane...
探員、軍人和中階外交官 was with intelligence, military...
低階吧？ ﹣低階 and diplomatic mid-level...
記者大多不會找上這些人 - Lower level? - Lower level.
The types journalists don't normally talk to or go after.
我也想給我老闆一些功勞 Can I just give a little credit, also, to the man...
約翰沃科特 who was our boss at the time, John Walcott.
（I.F.新聞獨立獎，2008年7月24日） 更高層次的文明世界 Higher levels of civilization...
（約翰沃科特） 必須更加注重和尊重… must depend even more heavily...
on a conscientious respect for the importance of honesty...
報導真相的誠實和明確性 on a conscientious respect for the importance of honesty...
and clarity in reporting the facts and out of stubborn... 報導真相的誠實和明確性
and clarity in reporting the facts and out of stubborn...
以及記者對於挖掘真相的執著 concern for accuracy in determining what the facts are.
（喬蓋洛威） 我們必須找到報導世事的方法 We need to find some way to cover the world so that...
好讓人們知道世上發生什麼事 we know what's happening out there...
好讓人們知道真相 that we know the truth about it...
這樣才能避免錯誤 so we can avoid mistakes...
就像伊拉克戰爭… mistakes like Iraq.
情報就是情報 The intelligence was what it was.
（朱迪思米勒，《報導》作者） 像我這樣的人是無法捏造情報的 You know, people like me couldn't make it up.
情報並非只是情報 The intelligence wasn't what it was...
也並非所有人都誤用它 and not everybody got it wrong.
大家都誤用了情報 Almost everybody did, except for Knight Ridder.
除了奈特裏德報業 大家都誤用了情報 Almost everybody did, except for Knight Ridder.