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right now we have Jason Scott with preserving digital history a quick and
dirty guide
and I'll let it and take it away
I appreciate that although I haven't done anything yet hi everybody
my name is Jason Scott I run a cycle text files dot com
I run a number of other sites related to it PDF to text files to com web to text
file dot com all related
different portions of digital media and
go digitized analog stuff basically
I the chose to give this speech just because
over the course of the last six years I picked up a few things and got some
ideas now keep in mind that I'm coming up from
a different area than most academics to you
because most academics go to school and then learn something and then tell
people who didn't go to school
out to do it and this is the other way around
%uh school didn't really work for me so
arm I want to look at the it's been laid down some foundations of what I'm
talking about
one of the biggest problems like the ones giving a speech is that
arm you fall into what's called a geek
really de Lille you've ever seen somebody who's talking about a subject
that's a lot
a lot of meat on it and you suddenly see them stop talking
they look at you it's because their brain is doing pattern recognition and
they realize that
in fact they could probably tell you a lot more than they're telling you
now trying to filter it real time doesn't work
so what I'm telling you is probably for some love you
very old information very obvious information for other people it might
not be
are I don't know where you're coming in from
a caring about digital history some you might be waiting for the next panel
arm I don't use PowerPoint I don't like it
I don't read from a screen to tell you what's going on
it's just it's a personal a some people do it I don't like this
have portions of the speech where I say to you I am now going to tell you what
you should bring back from this speech
I don't really mind what you're gonna do with my speech
I record my own speeches and do with them as I wish so
you know you with my speeches you wish arm
intrinsically I put a lot of value
on digital media digitize asians and things like that
some people don't they simply don't
arguing with them is a waste of time I'm not in that business
if a person says to me that fundamental
half smile question the getting my timing think so
why should anyone even care we're not even
you know we really shouldn't even be in the same room with school
you know let's go our separate ways because I'm not going to be able to
convince you
I see inherent value in taking historical
events that happened online
in my case and putting them online for others to Paul
I see the web is a miracle it may be inevitable miracle but still a miracle
nonetheless
I see where we've gone with it isn't inherent miracle while teasing out a
plea game saying
talking about you know do you get ho and what people have done with
a life journals and stuff I think all that is absolutely brilliant
thing by I just love this arm soul
getting perspective you know
at some point we're very sure that
the Sun is going to blow up we're not completely sure
we think that it was created at a certain point and
either by the hand of God or I'll very large amount of parrots
or some other method we weren't there were not sure
records are sketchy but we do know that its
burning right now like that eventually it's not
and it's not really so it's gonna explode as probably go well
in goal the first few planets and then go back in again
at that point people were not going to be thinking about digital history
I they're probably going to be leaving very quickly
the human race is an endless endless repeating story
love while there's something in the road while we're barreling towards it
oh my god it's coming this way we really ought to do something about it
and at the last second week spend every bit as energy we have just
engineer things just around to avoid it go that way
when we could have just kinda drop things and gotten
by that's what we do people like myself
took in interest in events in our own lives
I in this case for me dialer bulletin board systems
and as a child I remember getting all these wonderful
file sent to me and Heather everything else in downloading them
and when I reached a into my you know
mid-twenties I went looking for information and could not find it
and realize that in my house and deteriorating
floppy disks were a bunch of files that I had about
8000 9000 arm and
so I basically started putting them online
and I a got a lot of attention because it turned out
thousands of people had the same yearning that I did it just happen be
that I had the desks
which I have to point out is arm the most important
aspect digital or or historical collection
is to be at the event when it happens it's also the hardest
it is very difficult in doing research on Lincoln's assassination
to be there but it is the most important part
up the whole aspect or you never get the information
arm to my great surprise in terms of
how we collect things arm lincoln's blood-stained
program is in a bag in the Smithsonian Institution
if you wish to go see it 'em because somebody thought that was kinda
important
and weekend we would never be able to do anything about that
arm it in preserving
this a snorkels
data arm I started out
pulling up these I'll text files arm but my mission has expanded over time
because I realized how easy it was
to be at a location or be somewhere and pull it down once
it has become in morning the easy whereas once a for instance you had to
get every issue of life magazine by buying it
it's very simple now to pull website down with a double you get
or a/w get dash dash user agent string
because they won't let W get attack it
a because people don't want their stuff
saved I guess arm and put it away
I have a lot of dot part a cheesy files in a lot of locations for things that
may or may not have any meaning in another
for 5-10 twenty years arm
you know like I said eventually the Sun blows up but sometime before that we
still care about this
and if we play the game like was gonna care about this in 20
15 sixty years we can really work ourselves into a hole anyway
if you do that with anything you know mean why do I have this lunch when I'm
not going to be
families to be hungry tomorrow you can play that game live in the future live
in a way that doesn't exist
and you know convince yourself that
inaction is the best action that's fine
I mean you know TV is good and arm
I like going out not working computers but that's just part of the
for the game arm is
in terms of archaeology that has to come out from work that I've done
arm I I'm doing a documentary and I'll abort abort systems
I've spent about three years on it I'm at two hundred interviews
traveled many thousands of miles one of the things that really struck me was
how fragile some information was in some wasn't
for instance on people remembered stories very well but didn't really have
any reporting a bit
arm to my great surprise I conducted
word Christian Sims only video interview
on this was a man greeted X modem he call creates the first PBS
he may have created several other things for the first time
but they're was no visual recording word christiansen
looked like when he was talking there were a few
deal recordings of his voice arm
I made this recording for my documentary I intend to digitize it and put it up
in various locations including archive organ other ones
he doesn't always talk about Bolton court system back some time to talk
about what coffee
but just having that information
available means that I'm not the filtering
cross and that's something that's very hard to understand that it's not always
the information itself
because information is itself a political event arm
sometimes arm you have when you're reading something
if you're reading a historical perspective
your actually beating 3 different levels
time you're reading about the time that is being written about
you are reading about on your you were in the time
the person who wrote it wrote the description and you are in your own time
the person reading you can pull from all three levels at the same time
decide that this person with with income people about this
this is why there are so few pictures Franklin Delano Roosevelt wheelchair
an event that certainly occurred is because
it was a agreed-upon situation not to portray the president United States
in a wheelchair now that has value
not only does it have value but has value because it tells about the time of
the people who were talking about roosevelt and what they thought was
right
and it tells about now about what your opinions would be
about the fact that people were doing this back even
then arm wanna policed arm shocking
Albert shocking risk involved in it is held there really isn't a golden age
both forthright information that fiction
and storytelling being used to sell an idea is
a inherent process that its something people have
always die in a few need about an event
and you say that is too good to be true
then yes probably is too good to be true
I do not think for instance that Alexander Graham Bell
with acid dripping down his pants and
in Boston said calmly Watson come here
I want you but it doesn't
matter to you know in in the grandstands
things other than to know some of the events at the invention of the telephone
remind people about how that inventive process might a piece of paper written
from a civil war man to his wife saying
chickens are good had a battle yesterday
looking forward to seeing you in the baby perhaps he's hiding a lot of
information
machiavelli used battle didn't happen he actually is
in you know that part where he saying he was
on the other hand perhaps somebody down the line will look at this piece a paper
and save this is
got a watermark a company that said they never
aid to that side in the Civil War and suddenly
all the amount applying he does has no relevance to the
political information that comes in there I
while talking with Bob Mahoney who was the PBS
operator exact PC which bills itself as the largest
PBS and the known universe
I at one point during our conversation he said
yes I did this and I did this and I came up with the term
sip I took this as a table
thing quietly and then put it aside
and said well how will I know this because
if US bomber only the answers yes the creator of zip Philip Katz is dead
having died in a hotel room surrounded by empties
2000 he wouldn't answer
his mothers passed away a this is not an easy question
unless you have all shareware CDs
some time ago I started collecting shopper where CDs
in created CD that text files dot com a site that's kinda funny
edge in terms what's acceptable it's not but I have been putting up these all
shareware see
dating from 83 when they were just pack some discs
up to relatively frequently relatively new
and I found sip version 1.0
and in the Read Me file buried in this arm
file from long ago he thinks Bob Mahoney
for coming up with the turns it and this piece of information will
get out there I am and no way I could do it was by assuming
that the information inside this file
wasn't a interest enough to
arm falsified one of the things that happens now
a very interesting situation it's happening now as we speak it certainly
happen in mid
I in the mid-eighties on Usenet in this happen now
is the professional troll and this is a concept that's very new
and is an unintended byproduct of heavy information
being available are information tools is that you can have somebody
arm if you have somebody arm save this movie is good
this movie is bad this product is good this product is bad
sometimes amiram research on the person who says this product is good
revealed that they have a money trail that reveals that they are somebody who
was paid by an organization that happens to make that product
what do you do if that person has no affiliation
and in fact the reason they are claiming things
is because think just wanna break you
they want you to waste time
I have a person who I dealt with explain to me quite
earnestly and I must preface this for the Sega reporting
that it is false but who explain to me
in all earnestness how the whole earth electronic link
was actually the front for a child slave trade organization
in which children were bought and sold in secret boards
among the founders and that the whole purpose of it was to provide the many
easy nationwide access
again this has turned out to be false
but it is impossible to trace back this person's motivations
to some other easily motivated will thing other than
she's pretty fuck opus zoo
the arm some amount of research
into Usenet into Google Groups revealed that when
the space shuttle challenger blew up
in 1986 two days later she claimed that the reason it had been blown
up was because there was a woman on board
and needed arm it was a
way to demonstrate to women not to reach for places they shouldn't go
this generated some conversation which is
obviously the motivation but if I had not had that bit of information I
wouldn't have that Victor
and I could have wasted in of a lot of time I
over time people change stories in your mind that's part of the nature
things arm digital I artifacts the comeback from then
provide people with the way to say we have alternate
phiri's we have alternate statements could you explain
this it's the question that their own otherwise unable to answer
overtime because from everybody who was at
haight-ashbury to everybody who was in San Francisco in the sixties
to everybody who was alive during the sixties to everybody who remembers there
parent who was alive in the sixties each time the information quality
deteriorates granularity
information is a major problem right now bomb
for example death
vegetable in the pie with the hit in the face with a pie
on Friday which I must point out again did not happen
all would happen on stage by somebody
getting in with a pie because it's being done on a stage because it was ideally
chosen by the person fits in with the pie
it would be recorded by what are these two fine individuals over here on their
video recorder some of you might have
at this point a I the recording a
through your own camcorders or your own recording devices
this event him being hit in the pod from various angles
arm some %uh view have weblog have
platforms which speak to an audience of four or five people
and you tell people about arm
what you experienced the watching
death vegetable with apply and what your feelings must've been
death vegetable himself outside might have pictures
up himself running away getting this hikers of course the pie was made at a
lever hates and all these reactions
and times become this event with different levels of granularity
because it happened here meanwhile thousand conversations are taking place
in the hotel Pennsylvania
some which may be unbelievably important from which may be the roots
I'll things that will change the nature of information technology in another
5-10 years two guys bumped into the Blarney rock
and said hey you know I know this guy in the sky and later a conversation ensues
in which things happen
they'll never be a record that they might and even mention that they might
say we met somewhere you'll never know why
what was said what was happening about it this is the nature information if you
spend too much time concentrating on it you will go crazy
its a problem but I call the spa de Flore problem if you have a floor that
dirty you say the floor is dirty
and deal with it you go air or you step over it never thinking a bit because
what thousand people in never think about how many people have been
on hotel slip don't do it if you clean
a floor or you clean something every single step
made every single imperfection is now
wearing in your mind and driving you insane
if you sit there and say I have some files
from the aids from back when I ran my beloved imports
that's one thing but if you like me
find yourself in the position it going I have issues one two three four and five
and hi after a while you can go crazy
that 62 8 don't exist to my great surprise
the I found the easing that was numbered 17
9 11 and 14 track down the original office and found out
that all the issues they ever produced and it was pretty that it was
intentionally
to cause trouble for people like myself that sort of information just does not
pass along
arm when I was tracking back the
the route above the freeze K
rad arm care at now
has a lot alternative meetings like to it kilobyte
red thousand times kick red
killer red that stands for
dark backwards arm I received a bunch of that
I was told it was created in 1993 I was told it was created in the mid 90's
arm I found through papers and interviewing people that it was created
because it gentleman
on named Apple bandit spoke too fast
on the telephone and because when he would hang up
he would say okay bye but turn into one
word and say k bye and
this was something he did so often with his friends that they started signing
their messages
k bye and as surfer language overtook
PBS's in the early eighties radical
dude a bitchin started to make its vernacular in
mostly because love Fast Times at Ridgemont High and the valley girl song
arm people started to say that stuff was
K radical k cool
K see I
and when one group multiple groups
refer to their boards as K rad
on Apple to cracked screens that this
started to get use
know some people would say Wow
you just wasted 45 precious seconds of my life
I am never going to get that back thank you
big custom them has no value
to me it's not just about the word but how this
particular meaning changes over time
until you have where its use now arm
in the meeting early nineties a new group of kids rose up in Bolton boards
away Ring Pop descent the Giants that had been before them the CDC's the Lodis
the Bracks
26 hundreds the private line does anyone remember the private line
excellent the private line was 2600 BBS
it was seized I for doing very bad things
arm early in its life I was seized in early 1985
arm but June best part about
portable string Boston the New Jersey area
but arm people saw these original
boards and said I can do that I can do it better when they speak in strange
uses a ones for zeros I can do nothing but that
I can do this ironically see I'm doing it but I'm not really doing it I'm
acting like these kids used to do it but now I'm doing it in this kind of post
modern funny way that itself with the comment
and I have a lot of collections very complicated means
where people are putting together these ironic
events where they're talking about traveling back in time to the evening
get there rush all a bit I just pull down
I put it on my website i'd leave it there
and week for what happened next
which I will have no control arm I get a lot of
mail from people will again
I the problem that arises
of course is the viability of the median which I'm storing it on
it's a very precious time in terms of bandwith in terms
love our storage space in
1984 you could buy it ten megabytes i tre Drye
which was one of the first commercially available hard drive that was in
in a scientific
military in other professional pacified
store and buy it cost about seven hundred dollars but ten megabytes the
nature of the Apple systems that you couldn't have
subfolder so you had the kind of the final
a bunch of large floppy disks but because the seven dollars
ten megabytes and I'm bought 250
gigabyte hard drive for 159 dollars on sale
USA two weeks ago in 20 years
we've gone from 10 megabytes
to 250,000 megabytes
I'm not concerned about storage
when they save Google when Google saves
arm Usenet news
the amount of data being
see this precious data this impossible
block human history was between three and 6 gigabytes
not a big problem you don't think about that now
when you're downloading an enormous amount media
um one of the reasons I did text file to Commons to turn all
the nineteen eighty text file writing into aware
because to keep people's attention to
K file it's going to get lost now so like
turned them into seven hundred megabytes points
that get downloaded so I go
you had none of the history now you have
most the history on never have all a bit
I still get stuff sent to me arm
I was recently because arm part what part of what in the PAP inning is this
interesting peacock affect
because I'm the fellow who's known for collecting digital history
people who didn't know what to do with their stuff send it to me
just DAF so when I'm called up and someone says
I have 300 shareware CDs
I guess you wanna have 'em I say
okay and I take them and I digitized they're coming to shortly
I'm coming after the library of congress they visited his house in
copied them on left and i like it arm
when I was interviewing word christiansen it turned out that at
on his desk in a small formal role
were printouts from the first month for the first BBS
1978 that he had
kept not sure what to do with them
so he lent them to me they were so faded
I've been using a flash light to shine across the indentation
on the paper to figure out what was written and I'm transcribing it as
accurately as possible so that the
we're printout form is what survives
and then I'm applying it to my massive 700 Meg
a collection and saying take it all
there something else in there don't mind it to stow away to ensure that these
words do they say interesting things
maybe somebody uses ASCII art to welcome
to wish everyone a great Memorial Day in 1978
someone at one point is talking to somebody else and says
that is cool and rates k 00 L
in 1978 this all provides
information um that we just didn't have before
arm and to my great surprise I had printouts the private line
three months before it went under so I've been transcribing
this may be one of the only remaining evidence is that this board ever existed
arm so for me its
its it's very very important arm but how long will it last
certainly there is a large amount
Wonka policy and debate
among people mom with very very tiny voices
and very very quiet guys about how long
certain storage media will last in today's world
a certainly if you look at things from the point of view
somebody thousand years a lot I'll
mom history would seem like a mixing bowl
where things get mixed up somethings
arbitrarily crossed on the side and never go away
all jokes certain kinds of bricks
certain things while so much else it's whipped up
removed and taken away to a thousand recipes into you never know what
happened anymore
that's the nature human trying to act like it's not that it's the great
tragedy a technological
people making human people non-human or treating
non-human me humans non-human million trying to evaluate
if you spend time trying to treat people like their a
value a certain kinda exponential
you know mathematical theory they will always feel you
annual always be set instead you do best
organically approach like like everyone else does
all things toward you that you'd like for a way things that you don't like
or throw them to people liked hence e-bay
bomb so I collect a lot of thing simply because I think it might be interesting
I have my own personal biases I love watching people screw
with history in a
kind do you know parodying manner I like it when they make fun of things that
used to be
you can get their opinion I love everything having to do with Apple to
pirate boards from nineteen
the 12 1985
I love it can't get away from it it makes me it's like the guy
luck Ferrari in the open up the hood the new Ferrari
thats leave me alone with it for a while
because that's what I enjoy it at that the time Mike you'll find
as I found in two hundred interviews the golden period
is when you started using it
the Golden Age blossomed in bloom the first time you did it
whatever it is your first call on
your first love your first car
with the Golden Age it had its flaws it had its greatness but
it your goal and that's fine
telling everyone else that the golden ages past is not effective in not
through
your golden ages past again that's fine
you know arm I happen to find that that time for me is Michael
me that's when I grew up and I found out that their lives outside
mine found that there was a stake of California I found out that
that that people have cars girlfriend
talk about it have a great time I wanted to be part of them
so that for me is mine so that comes to me and I get them tonight
pull them away and you get these events where people
mom a gentleman while I had a I had the canonical
collection about text file
you'll never get them all but you can usually say I got pretty much everyone
made it around and I can happily say
that is a 1992 I got pretty much all the BBBS
that was a very important milestone for me 1998
I couldn't find any online to I could find
pretty much all arm and
I had somebody come to me and I found out his story that he had been an apple
born in 1982 and that his parents at move to Brazil
and he went to Brazil and then in 1985 they moved back
dad was in the military came back loved
time with Apple so much that he found them again
found the Baltimore and he when he saved everything he could from
every Baltimore ever could now coming from the outside it was like the court
was like a time-travel
he came back it was all back collected as much as he could
and so he put it all together and he said I want you to have it
and it was like it was like the second
camcorder it was like the second point of view that gives you the 3d
image was a set of one's responding to the files that I knew is the canonical
one's going
the canonical won their shit completely wrong
here's the real story arm
and so his his sudden perspective on
his golden age was what change things for him
arm
is it true that stuff will deteriorate yes
ten years twenty years thirty years that's not your problem
again that problem for people like myself
say have copies of my stuff put it on the LTI tapes
put on CDs and at the end of the day we go all well
we got alone we got
most this newspaper got ripped when it got transferred but we have the other
four hundred issues
a if you don't save it
and by saving and I I'll explain that by me but by if you don't do that
nope and normal rest 32 technology can make something from nothing
very hard to restore a dodo you know because
by the way does were stupid
I'm booked the walk right up to you because they had no natural enemies
and it got to the point that they would
shoot the because they couldn't get to the latrines
on the galapagos it be
let's go down god damn
dodo damn get to the latrine
now which apply some big amount of value to the
to the dodo in the history and everything else but you know the last
dose skin
but got destroyed in you know the late eighteen hundreds
early nineteen hundred's you know that's gone
however our stories don't know the stories of things that were learned
Darwin's work I'm studying are Canary Islands up
other islands like that learn about species that persist we do our best arm
could a as a person
you know you say we're looking at what can I do what can I possibly
deal are the sounds like something you do that nobody else does
and my answer is if you enjoy something on the internet
a joke site a person's writing
a somebody writes you unbelievably horrifyingly
angry male just put it somewhere
drop it off forget about it got sorted
the great scourge our people
trying to be the filter what's good
what's bad what's useful with what's gone don't waste your time
nearly nineteen nineties it was thirty seconds to render a Jay pag on on a
Macintosh
a so you can find out if you actually did download
the girl
in Windows XP the default
view is a thumbnail gallery of all the pictures brought up to you is if it was
just another page the process of sorting
the girls from all the Badger photos
is almost instantaneous now 32nd process you do while you're on the phone
you sell ago better go better back then
that would be three days three days in going to the magical
you you you don't need to do that
if we can go from 10 to 250,000 gigabytes
in 20 years in twenty years from now
we're not gonna slow down we're not gonna get
arm arm I stand at odds with a lot of people
when they it's a common activist technique to tell people that if they do
not take action immediately within this aspect entire way of life
hand and living and technology will be completely destroyed never be seen again
you will lose it you'll miss it
and sign your that's true and not true
fights are made what
it has been the trend as long as we have been
in existence are certainly within the last 100 years
that there has been quick profit in making it faster
easier quicker to take the world around you
and making image a video in memory
remembrance a bit and store it somewhere for easy retrieval
perhaps the things use will work or won't work
you know arm we certainly have with education
a II fully fully endorse education to go
well the new Sony Walkman is really good all the Sony Walkman
uses this weird format boy Sony Walkman
hello you know creative walkman which doesn't do that
hello big file on PDF on how to build my own got them walkman
great but Sony's gonna keep making better and better things
they're gonna keep getting companies to make them
a internal arm mechanisms
that will store things better will do things better cheaper faster quicker
a bikes fully think
that the euro be constantly
running video input will be soon
and by that I mean augmentative a
reality where you are pulling in information all the time
to you text information people information
Wireless things being polled you from different tags saying you're walking now
in this location
it's doing this people have been here location baseball
import systems where you walk by a place in all the messages
in electronic form of all the people who have been there are read out to you on a
screen or in other some certain
retinal implant or miles pray that you want to do
you know people will do this
cuz they like it and they've been doing it so
your job is to throw it into a little box
let the box robot come forward in a hundred years
or than 10 years ago through your estate or go through your
you know your your equipment yes I was gonna be thrown out but without that
important piece that you play being here you know
do it and you'll always find it complete maniac like myself
that will do this that will take your stop and say
I'll deal with it arm it is only for the
effort to four people or five people that Google has all the Usenet
newsgroups
are the Department
zoology a Toronto stored
all the incoming Usenet information on nine track tapes
and it was transported by one gentleman one day when you're going to get rid of
it
and that's how that information persist out of all the people who had it
that's how they got it arm in Afghanistan
there was a gentleman who worked at a radio station
collected reel to reel tapes all the Middle Eastern shows
all the albums all the radio and
arm kept them in this
beautiful little room where he sorted everything when the Taliban came to
power
they out loud music and in that process they would go to different locations
and destroy albums recordings this German recognized this was not a good
idea
went through the tens of thousands of tapes
in relabeled them so that they said that they were something else
spoken word or readings of
different files and then put the spoken words
in front when the Taliban came to inspect his
collection he pulled out random Peyton demonstrate to them
this is just spoken work when the Taliban fell
while ago he then went through
again in relabel them all again
people like this exist they care about it
to that level I think you'll find them
if you look for them online you find the archive that or people
you find me the tech fall like omg I you'll find the
will though use phrases like the arc hi the media center
the collection the library arm the great wonder about
the great the create happiness in the great tragedy digital
is that there is one and now there's
to and then there are more
that strikes happiness in some terror in others
so be it nature the game
take advantage of the fact that there can be two and three
and and and given the people giving the more you give
the more you there are I love that
I'm never getting tired of that and every
every week sometimes every day
I get mail from somebody who says
I wrote a file
about a subject that was kinda funny to me
and I uploaded to some old friends on their BBS
you have it from 1982
one of those friends is dead I haven't had that computer in 20 years
but you saved it from me and I thank you for that
I get people to mail me and say
what happen with PBS's this is the greatest time that ever existed
it sucks now with the spam people are so much nicer back
that it was so wonderful
and I'm like oh yeah he really loved each other
people love you know people come back and the dive into this pool
I never put advertising banners up I don't make people pay to click through
that's my choice somebody grabs it makes a poor pay site
who read a it still somewhere and when they run out of money
got a business someone to buy their thing and optional go somewhere else
great
people go in and it's just that first oshit feeling
jumping in the text files like on-site and there's fifty six thousand things
for you to read
right now if you need to
it doesn't matter to me when the Sun blows up
how much of it still rock it matters to me the ten thousand people a day
who come in are affected by my collection and without the people who
collected in the first place I wouldn't be where I was
we weren't we were supposed to do Q&A unfortunately looks like I'm out of time
we have time with the smile stage manager
two minutes with somebody like to form into question for me
just walk up to the microphone whoever wins if your question is really long
winding and not really to me I'll stop you
I just a as kind have to get over the whole
a the media intimidation value text files are comments 56,000 files the
regatta
up you know putting for a little text files dot com slash 100 are my top 100
files to read if you really don't like reading
yeah I've read that and also thinking maybe you could do some sort of like
little message foreign people to post comments things I don't
like forums for my stuff
because I can't run it properly
forming used to be a fun process you in your friends did
now it is a geopolitical nightmare
I simply don't have the energy I encourage people
II to start mailing list to discuss it there's something called eighties BBS
list
ya on Yahoo and so on where people discuss these different things
I like forms minute when I have to run them you know
I i've watched Rob mall the be turned into a gibbering wreck up a man
and he doesn't even care a
doing historical research some of the most valuable stuff you can find is
people's personal correspondence
right given with email how widely spread this is and how much of it is located on
individual servers
that are being properly maintained are being properly backed up
is there any strategies that you're thinking about ways that this
information can be saved
her wanna the the certainly for instance people per
people generally put no way in their own words
and it's very frustrating they provide no meaning to their own words I see that
a lot certainly on livejournal
I think like jewels were the most important things to happen in the past
five years
I think that are people talk
a lot of talk about why wouldn't be really great if everyone got their own
voice
and now it is another all surprised it took Annapolis
enough cats but that's the nature of humans
that nature human coming on line is that they do that and so great
are MIT research project downloaded four gigabytes of weblogs
arm to do it I grabbed that database I don't even know how to read it
I just grabbed it and put it somewhere cuz
some point I was gonna wouldn't it be nice if we had an example all that and
run correlations against it arm
I think that's all that is relegated to never be found I think that sometimes
you'll
have weird situations where machines will be decommissioned from
a ISP and they will take the information on that horrible it's a violation of
privacy
but on the other hand its this you know sense
you know that the classic problem right our worst
our worst president I had his
papers burned upon his death why am I forgetting his name
got dirty sock he was
he never passed one single piece of legislation he
only had parties he dressed in three different
outfits every day when the sock
I'm oil lamp rings man's name was that he was a vice president he got it
because the other guy died
got shot in 30 days later died because of an infection 30 days into it
anyway Harrison it was Harrison
but here are some hearst oh well
look it up there are some very bad president
it's not just this constant bar graph going down
there are some Sacco's okay
busted
with digital media I can send you a text
saying that I came up with he read
1989 yes
believe that and how do people
the I got a text oh I know that those files
sources honest about
this being I do work for the wiki
are a done work for the Wikipedia I run
my own wiki a run to close the calm I've submitted article to the rotten library
the run to calm library
I can tell you that I don't believe anything anymore ever on
I fundamentally I fell for that
hook line and sinker fundamentally
the answer is I don't believe any ovett arm
I just put it up and keep putting up everything I can
at the moment its it's Bob Mahoney made the zip file in another five minutes it
might turn out ok got pete seeger made the bit that vial
and Bob only stole it from him arm across the river over in Weehawken
eyes across the river over we harkin their their arm
the reason to give Hamilton is because the reenacting the BER Hamilton
a dual today whereby
r1 up Hamilton shot over boers
head and Hamilton was killed arm
there are three different conflicting stories as to exactly what happened
some say that the guns were modified and
Hamilton was cheating and modified it so that when he shot it the request was way
more than expected and wacky took it
another one says that he intentionally shot over because he could not see
himself killing a man over such a minor thing
and the third one just says bert was a great shot
we'll never know I mean there to secondaries were there but
they don't they have conflicting stories we'll never know we do our best
we absolutely do our best we try to put up all the information we can maybe
somewhere down the line will find a way of knowing
arm inherently overtime
I am encountering more and more people politically coming after me to try to
change history
the best I can do is grab stuff from sources and people that nobody
cared about nobody talk to to get their opinion
because everyone knows a lot of people know
Tom Jennings who created by DOE not many people know John McGill
arm who was fired on that note number two
and I interviewed him so his opinions really help you with Tom Jennings
because Tom Jennings is such a famous figure in all that
what a strange thing to end on I like to thank you all for getting up so early on
a Sunday to come speak to me
I am and I want to thank you for listening what arm
and the I also really wish to thank
arm Emanuel for bomb lasting through twenty years
love back-biting in pain which is what comes to anyone creates things
and that I hope that over time the Tykes
who look up to him and point an insult
the will eventually dream achieving stature
yes thank you very much