要不然你就得坐到刑满释放 Otherwise, you'll be here until your MR." You know?
那我就坐到刑满释放吧 我不会认罪的 So I guess I'll be in here 'til my MR, 'cause I ain't gonna admit to it.
我不会撒谎 I'm not gonna lie.
这些是上诉法院的文件 Here's the court of appeals.
判决书 Sentencing papers.
这些大概是98年的吧 我发了副本出去 This one must've been in... '98. I sent transcripts out.
发了很多 我复印了10份 A whole bunch of them. I made ten copies.
就坐在客厅用复印机一份一份复印出来的 Sit in the living room and done it on the copy machine.
然后我把文件分十份放在桌上 Then I put the pieces, each on the table to make ten, you know, ten of them.
十分费神 It was nerve-racking.
我估计都弄了有1000多页吧 I think there's about a thousand pages in 'em.
这份送去了纽约 This one went to New York.
我寄去了好多地方 They went all over.
CBS的"60分钟" ABC的"20/20"我都寄过去了 Wherever 60 Minutes is or 20/20 or...
其他的我就不记得了 I can't remember the other ones all.
反正就是那些电视上经常放的节目 All them things that's on TV always.
我以为他们看完这些文件就会帮史蒂文出狱 I thought they'd help Steven to get out if they read all this here script stuff.
但是突然很多都退了回来 Then all of a sudden we got a lot of 'em back, though.
他们就说干不来之类的 They couldn't do it, they said, or something like that.
我花了很多时间去弄这些 Yeah, I put a lot of hours in these boxes.
你得有耐心 You learn to take patience, because everything...
因为凡事都太需要时间 it takes time.
在监狱里 你必须等 In prison, you gotta wait.
没有事情能一刹那就搞定 Nothing happens just like that.
总之 他们拿不走我对于家庭的爱 Anyway, they couldn't take away my love for my family and that.
我从来就没有消极过 一直都保持乐观 I never had bad hopes. It was always good hopes.
他的辩护律师和上诉律师都说 Both his trial lawyer and his appellate lawyer said,
"你能不能看一下史蒂文·艾弗里的案子 "Could you look at this guy's case, at Steven Avery's case?
我们都为这个案子失眠15年了" We've been losing sleep over this case for 15 years."
我们知道相关技术有所提高 于是要求再次测试 We knew the technology had advanced, so we asked for the testing again.
证物再次送到了刑事技术实验室 The material was sent down to the crime laboratory again,
实验室发现了在帮受害人梳理阴毛时 and what they found was that there were 13 pubic hairs
采集到的13根阴毛 that had been collected during the pubic hair combings of the victim.
有11根是没有发根的 Eleven of those hairs had no root.
所以剩下的2根才是有用的 So they were down to two pubic hairs.
其中有一根是女性的 也许就是佩妮·伯恩岑自己的 One of those hairs was from a female, probably Penny Beerntsen's own hair.
最后的那根阴毛就关系到案件的真相 The truth in this matter came down to that one remaining pubic hair.
实验室取得了一份基因全图 They got a full profile.
这份基因全图绝对地排除了史蒂文·艾弗里的嫌疑 That profile conclusively excluded Steven Avery.
这绝对不是他的 现在我们完全确定了 It could not have come from him. Now we know that with certainty.
我不知道这足不足够让此案重新审理 Whether that alone would've been enough to grant him a new trial, I don't know.
不过更加戏剧性的是 他们把从阴毛中提取的基因全图 But even more dramatically, they took that profile from that pubic hair
拿到州里的刑事技术实验室数据库里进行比对 and they ran it through the state crime laboratory data bank
找到了匹配之人 and they got a cold hit.
也就是说 这份基因全图匹配到了一个 That is to say, they matched it to somebody in the data bank
他们并不知道其存在于数据库的人 who they didn't know was in there.
那个人就是格雷戈里·艾伦 And that somebody was Gregory Allen.
我感受到了自由 I feel free.
当我出狱的时候 愤怒也随风飘散了 When I left the prison, the anger left.
消失不见了 It was gone.
我的愤怒留在了狱门之后 It stayed there, behind them gates.
它没有随着我一起出来 It didn't come out with me.
我出狱的时候十分开心 I was happy when I got out.
我大概是地球上最开心的人了 I probably was the happiest man on the Earth.
-你好吗 -你们好 - How you doing? - Oh, hello.
-你怎么样 -我挺好 - How are you? - I'm pretty good.
-感觉如何 -特别好 - How's it feel? - It feels wonderful.
史蒂文 天啊 Oh, God! Oh, Stevie!
咱们终于摆脱了这事儿 Let's get rid of this thing.
对于捉到了真正的罪犯我很开心 I'm just glad they got the guy who did it.
你能不能原谅受害者 Do you forgive the victim?
这根本不是她的错 It ain't at all her fault, you know.
无心之过而已 Honest mistake, you know.
我是指 我觉得大多数时间都是警察在错误地引导她 I mean, most the time, I think the cops put it in her head more.
这是谁啊 Who's this?
其实我也不知道 I don't know.
案件的真相跟炸弹一样打击了地检办公室和警长办公室 The revelation hit the DA's office and the sheriff's office like a bomb.
当案件的真相开始显露时 And as it began to unfold what had happened,
很多在有关部门工作的人 there was then a huge set of repercussions
受到了巨大的影响 on a whole series of people in those offices.
从史蒂文被释放的那天起 The day of or the day after Steven's release,
马尼托瓦克的执法人员 law enforcement officers in Manitowoc
就在写关于将近十年前 are writing memos to describe activity
发生的案件活动的备忘录 that had occurred almost ten years earlier.
要不是他们感觉受到了威胁 是不会这么做的 They don't do that unless they feel threatened.
当我打电话告知丹尼斯·沃格尔 When I called Denis Vogel to tell him the news
史蒂文·艾弗里并非性侵佩妮·伯恩岑之人时 that Steven Avery wasn't guilty of assaulting Penny Beerntsen,
我以为他会很吃惊 I was expecting to hear some shock or some surprise, like,
"天哪 怎么会这样" "Oh, my goodness. How did this happen?"
或者说"对于这事儿我感觉很糟糕" Or "I feel terrible about it" Or...
又或者"感谢基因全图证明了真相" "Thank goodness the DNA proved it."
但是这些话一句都没有从沃格尔口中出现 But I didn't hear any of that from Mr. Vogel.
他倒是问了我一个问题 What I heard instead was a question,
在他的档案里有没有关于格雷戈里·艾伦的资料 whether or not there was anything on Gregory Allen in his file.
我真不敢相信 这告诉了我两件事 I couldn't believe it. I mean, it showed me two things.
一 他曾经怀疑格雷戈里·艾伦是性侵案的凶手 It showed me that he suspected that Gregory Allen was the assailant.
二 他担心自己档案中 But it also showed me... I didn't know how else to take it,
关于格雷戈里·艾伦的资料被曝光 other than that he was worried about his exposure.
这我想不出还能有什么别的解释了 That something about Gregory Allen was in his file.
我开始翻阅丹尼斯·沃格尔的档案中有关艾弗里的资料 I started leafing through Denis Vogel's file on Avery
我在艾弗里的档案中发现了 and I come across a criminal complaint.
一则"威斯康星州起诉格雷戈里·艾伦"的刑事诉讼 "State of Wisconsin v. Gregory Allen" In the Avery file,
这很没道理 which didn't make a lot of sense.
罪名为妨害风化 It was a charge of lewd and lascivious behavior.
他脱掉裤子 当众裸露并戳一位女士 He had dropped his shorts, he exposed himself and he lunged at this woman.
案件发生在佩妮·伯恩岑被性侵两年后 And it was the same basic section of the beach
地点与佩妮案相同 where Penny Beerntsen was assaulted two... two years later.
我又发现丹尼斯·沃格尔就是 Um, and I looked at which prosecutor had prosecuted Gregory Allen earlier,
起诉格雷戈里·艾伦的检察官 and it was Denis Vogel.
这证明地检官和警长 That was evidence that at least made it possible
对于史蒂文·艾弗里并非真犯 that the DA and the sheriff
知情或应该知情 either knew or should have known
是具有可能性的 that Steven Avery was not the assailant.
不仅如此 And not only that,
我们相信有可能他们知道佩妮案的真犯 we believe there was the potential that they knew, in fact,
但依然继续起诉史蒂文 who the assailant was, but continued with the prosecution.
我们需要第三方来求证 We needed for somebody else to look at it
最合理的是总检察长办公室 and the logical office would be the Attorney General's office.
一位检察官要求总检察长 It's extraordinarily significant
州首席检察官去调查 that a prosecutor asks the Attorney General,
其所属的社区内的 the chief prosecutor of the state,
相关部门与执法机关 to investigate his own department
是极具意义的 这很少发生 and law enforcement in that community. That doesn't happen.
请你说出你的职业 Would you tell us what your occupation is, please?
我是威斯康辛州司法部 I am a special agent with the Wisconsin Department of Justice
刑事调查科的特别探员 Division of Criminal Investigation.
你作为特别探员的职责是什么 What are your duties as a special agent?
调查司法部门中与渎职相关的犯罪行为 To investigate crimes relating to misconduct in office.
你是调查1985年起诉史蒂文·艾弗里一案的 And you were one of two DCI agents
两位刑事调查科 to work on an investigation involving the prosecution in 1985
-特别探员之一 对吗 -是的 - of Steven Avery, is that right? - Yes.
我们想要采访所有 We wanted to interview everybody we could identify as being involved
参与调查与起诉的人员 in the investigation or in the prosecution.
要明白 所有事情都发生在公众视野中 Understand, this is all happening in public view.
公众知道首席检察官的调查正在进行 The public knew an Attorney General's investigation was underway.