(大提琴弦乐) (cello string music)
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-在某些方面，他们创造了迄今为止最雄心勃勃的纪录， - In some ways, they made their most ambitious record yet,
雄心壮志并不是创纪录销量的同义词。 and ambition is not synonymous with record sales.
(笑)你知道吗? (laughs) You know?
我是说，这不是， I mean, this is not,
这是一个大师， this is a masterful,
密集的，艺术的陈述。 dense, artistic statement.
它可能会爆炸。 It could bomb.
(音乐复卷) (music rewinding)
-我需要更多钢琴。 - I need more piano.
-[制作人]减少噪音? - [Producer] Less noise?
- [Jeff Tweedy]少点噪音。 - [Jeff Tweedy] Less noise.
-[制作人]是啊，我可以少点噪音。 - [Producer] Yeah, I could take less noise.
- [Glenn Kotche]一，二，三。 - [Glenn Kotche] One, two, three.
♬那是我父亲的声音，渐渐远去 ♪ It's my father's voice, trailing off ♪
♬水手们在清晨起航 ♪ Sailors sailin' off in the morning ♪
♬为空调房间♬ ♪ For the air-conditioned rooms ♪
♬在楼梯的顶端 ♪ At top of the stairs ♪
♬他的下巴断了♬ ♪ His jaw's been broken ♪
♬他的绷带缠得太紧了 ♪ And his bandage is wrapped too tight ♪
♬他的尖牙被拔掉了 ♪ His fangs have been pulled ♪
♬我真的很想今晚见到你♬ ♪ And I really wanna see you tonight ♪
不，对不起。 No, I'm sorry.
(大雨) (rain pouring)
(原声吉他弹奏) (acoustic guitar strumming)
♬我是一个美国水族酒鬼 ♪ I am an American aquarium drinker ♪
♬我在大街上刺客 ♪ I assassin down the avenue ♪
♬我躲在大城市里眨着眼睛 ♪ I'm hiding out in the big city blinkin' ♪
放开你的时候我在想什么 ♪ What was I thinkin' when I let go of you ♪
♬让我们忘记打结的闪电吧 ♪ Let's forget about the tongue-tied lightning ♪
♬让我们像对眼的陌生人一样脱衣服吧 ♪ Let's undress just like cross-eyed strangers ♪
♬这不是玩笑，所以请别笑了 ♪ This is not a joke so please stop smilin' ♪
♬当我说不疼的时候，我在想什么呢 ♪ What was I thinkin' when I said it didn't hurt ♪
♬我想爬过那双褐色的眼睛，做梦 ♪ I wanna crawl through those brown eyes dreamin' ♪
♬把你从内心带走 ♪ Take you from the inside ♪
♬宝贝，抱紧你 ♪ Baby hold on tight ♪
但你说我喝多了，你说得太对了 ♪ But you were so right when you said I been drinkin' ♪
我们说晚安的时候我在想什么 ♪ What was I thinkin' when we said goodnight ♪
♬我想要伤透你的心 ♪ I am tryin' to break your heart ♪
♬我想要伤透你的心 ♪ I am trying to break your heart ♪
但如果我说这并不容易，那我就是在说谎 ♪ Yet still I would be lying if I said it wasn't easy ♪
♬我想要伤透你的心 ♪ I am trying to break your heart ♪
-[杰夫]你在干什么? - [Jeff] What are you doing?
- - - - - -你好。(笑)-你好。 - Hello. (laughs) - Hello.
欢迎观看我们的电影。 Welcome to our movie.
我们要看很多电影 We are going to be seeing lots of film
关于威尔科的事。 about Wilco today.
-我得说，我们很幸运，我认为威尔科 - I gotta say, we're pretty lucky that I think Wilco
在一个位置上 is in a position
在那里他们可以做自己想做的唱片。 where they can make the record they wanna make.
我是说，肯定有…… I mean, there is definitely...
我不知道这是不是压力， I don't know if I'd call it pressure,
但肯定有一种感觉 but there's definitely a feeling
就是这个时候了。 that this is sort of the moment.
-[杰夫]他们都很有趣。 - [Jeff] They are very funny guys.
(笑)给他一根烟。 - [Jay Bennett] (laughs) Give him a cigarette.
-[杰夫]哦，是的，是的。 - [Jeff] Oh, yeah, yeah.
我需要一块口香糖。 I need a piece of gum.
-我想， - I think,
当然还有希望， and of course hope,
这张唱片会是头等大事 that this record is gonna be a pretty big priority
华纳的专辑发行后 for Warner when it comes out,
你并不是每次发行一张唱片都能得到这样的回报。 and you don't get that every time you put a record out.
- [Jeff]总之，我在巡演， - [Jeff] So, anyway, I was touring,
和威尔科一起巡回演出 was touring on the road with Wilco.
(笑) (group laughs)
你的口香糖还给你了。 Oh, here's your gum back.
(腿敲) (drumsticks banging)
(《美国国旗的灰烬》的开场白) (opening notes of Ashes of American Flags)
- [Glenn]一，二… - [Glenn] One, two...
♬自动取款机♬ ♪ The cash machine ♪
♬是蓝色和绿色的♬ ♪ Is blue and green ♪
♬为了一百，为了二十 ♪ For a hundred in twenties ♪
♬并收取一小笔服务费 ♪ And a small service fee ♪
♬我可以花三美元♬ ♪ I could spend three dollars ♪
♬和63美分♬ ♪ And 63 cents ♪
♬在健怡可口可乐上♬ ♪ On Diet Coca-Cola ♪
♬和未点燃的香烟♬ ♪ And unlit cigarettes ♪
♬我想知道我们为什么要听诗人的话 ♪ I wonder why we listen to poets ♪
♬当没有人在乎的时候 ♪ When nobody gives a fuck ♪
♬多么火热和悲伤，♬ ♪ How hot and sorrowful, ♪
这台机器祈求好运 ♪ This machine begs for luck ♪
♬我所有的谎言都是愿望 ♪ All my lies are always wishes ♪
♬我知道如果我能重新回来，我宁愿去死 ♪ I know I would die if I could come back new ♪
-你知道的，有两种潜力。 - You know, there are two kinds of potential.
有艺术潜力 There's artistic potential
我认为这对他们来说是无限的 which I think for them is unlimited,
而且还有商业潜力 and there is commercial potential
这对我们来说真的很神秘 which is really quite mysterious to us
因为有很多因素 because there are so many factors
是你无法控制的 that are out of your control,
我们尽量不去想太多 and we try not to think about it too much
试着，你知道， and just try, you know,
努力做出一张伟大的唱片，满怀希望，奋力拼搏 try to make a great record, and hope, and push
做出正确的决定 the label to make the right decisions
做正确的事情来提升自己等等。 and do the right things promotion-wise and so on.
-这是一个互动乐队。 - This is an interactive band.
这里有四五个人， These are four, five people, you know,
一起创作音乐， who make music together,
音乐听起来也不会像现在这样 and the music wouldn't sound the way it does
除非这五个人一起在房间里 unless these five people are together in the room
同时制作音乐。 at the same time making the music.
-这是一个持续的过程。 - It's a constant process.
我是说，我们做唱片，他们… I mean, we make records and they're, um...
这最终会成为一件事，你知道，你正在制作， That ends up being a thing, you know, that you're making,
你有无数的选择来决定它是什么 and you have a million options as to what that thing can be
它可以是什么形状。 and what shape it can be.
(鼓敲) (drums banging)
(钢琴演奏) (piano playing)
我们通常会选择一个非常明确的版本 We generally go for a pretty straight definitive version
这首歌听起来应该是什么样子， of what the song sounds like it should be,
然后稍微解构一下， and then deconstruct it a little bit,
看看有没有更刺激的方法 and see if there's some more exciting way
去接近它。 to approach it.
♬在我的心里回响 ♪ Echoes in my heart ♪
♬砂砾在我的掌心 ♪ Gravel in my palm ♪
没有理由不去破坏它，你知道吗? There's no reason at all, not to destroy it, you know?
我们创造了它，所以我们要摧毁它， We made it, so it's ours to destroy,
这是一种解放和令人兴奋的创造性方式。 and that's liberating and exciting in a really creative way.
(欢快的音乐) (upbeat music)
♬我需要一台相机 ♪ I need a camera ♪
♬对我的眼睛来说 ♪ To my eye ♪
♬对我的眼睛，提醒着♬ ♪ To my eye, reminding ♪
♬我藏了哪些谎言 ♪ Which lies have I been hiding ♪
哪一个回声属于哪一个 ♪ Which echoes belong ♪
♬我在数着♬ ♪ I'm counting out ♪
♬在中央公园的日子 ♪ The days in Central Park ♪
♬我的心里有碎石 ♪ With gravel in my heart ♪
♬在我的掌心回荡 ♪ With echoes in my palm ♪
♬打电话给我的家人 ♪ Phone my family ♪
告诉他们我在人行道上迷路了 ♪ Tell 'em I'm lost on the sidewalk ♪
不，这是不对的 ♪ And no it's not okay ♪
♬我打碎了相机♬ ♪ I smashed a camera ♪
♬我想知道为什么 ♪ I wanna know why ♪
♬对我的眼睛，提醒着♬ ♪ To my eyes, reminding ♪
♬我藏了哪些谎言 ♪ Which lies have I been hiding ♪
哪一个回声属于哪一个 ♪ Which echoes belong ♪
♬我在数着♬ ♪ I'm counting out ♪
♬在中央公园的日子 ♪ The days in Central Park ♪
♬在我的心里回荡 ♪ With echoes in my heart ♪
♬我的手掌里有碎石 ♪ With gravel in my palm ♪
我认为这张唱片对乐队来说是一个飞跃。 I think this record's more of a leap for the band.
这可能是最接近纯粹合作的方式 This is probably the closest to pure collaboration
威尔科得到的最好的东西。 Wilco has ever got.
-就个人而言，我真的很高兴 - And personally, I'm really happy
因为杰夫和我一起做过很多这样的事。 'cause Jeff and I have done a lot of this stuff together.
这是第一次 This is the first time
杰夫和我有意识地做出了努力 that Jeff and I have made a conscious effort
一起在阁楼写歌。 to get together at the loft and write songs.
-并不是说事情不会自发发生 - Not that things don't happen spontaneously
威尔科的录音 with the Wilco recordings,
但是他们之间有很多的交流， but there is a lot of conferring with each other,
经过深思熟虑，就像杰夫说的那样， a lot of deliberation, a lot of, like Jeff was talking,
毁掉我们的成果， destroying what we've done,
从后门试，把它倒过来。 trying it from the backdoor, turning it upside down.
♬我在数着♬ ♪ I'm counting out ♪
♬日子看有多远♬ ♪ The days to see how far ♪
♬我在黑暗中开车 ♪ I've driven in the dark ♪
♬在我的心里回荡 ♪ With echoes in my heart ♪
♬打电话给我的家人 ♪ Phone my family ♪
告诉他们我在人行道上迷路了 ♪ Tell 'em I'm lost on the sidewalk ♪
不，这是不对的 ♪ And no it's not okay ♪
♬不，不可以 ♪ No it's not okay ♪
呃,好吧。 Uh, okay.
-这是第一张唱片 - It's the first record
在那里，所有的事情都是我们自己完成的。 where we've really done everything ourselves.
现在，我们自己在设计它， And now, we're engineering it ourselves,
我们在自己的空间里做。 and we're doing it in our space.
我们在做两件看似矛盾的事情。 We're doing two seemingly contradictory things.
我们在一个非常轻松的环境中录制唱片 We're making a record in a very relaxed environment
没有外界输入， with no outside input,
但同时， but at the same time,
我们接受了某种压力 we're accepting a certain kind of pressure
那是我们自己穿的。 that we're putting on ourselves.
-我是说，没有威尔科的制作人真好 - I mean, it's nice not to have a producer from Wilco
因为我们所有人，我们每个人，都完全有能力 because we're all, any one of us, perfectly capable of
指挥或塑造音乐时刻的 directing or shaping a musical moment.
-一切都安排好了 - Everything is just kind of set up,
我是说，继续录唱片。 I mean, to just keep making records.
-我知道抱怨你的唱片公司很酷， - I know it's cool to bitch about your record label,
你知道吗? you know?
但是，我是说，他们让我们做一张唱片 But, I mean, they're letting us make a record
在我们的阁楼里，他们却一个字都没听到。 in our loft, and they haven't heard a word of it.
(笑) (laughs)
他们给了我们85000美元， They're giving us $85,000,
他们一个字都没听。 and they haven't heard a word it.
你知道吗?这就是信任，对吧? You know? That's trust, right?
他们信任我们。 They trust us.
你总是在玩…… You're always playing the...
你差不多要做1、5、6、4个…… You're pretty much doing one, five, six, four on all the...
很多时候，当你演奏的时候， A lot of times when you're playing,
如果你身后没有任何声音景观， if you don't have any sonic landscape behind you,
一切都变成了民歌。 everything turns into a folk song.
这就是你的工作，对吧? That's pretty much what you do right?
-是的。 - Yeah.
(播放吉他) (guitar playing)
-我们只是不想让它听起来像民谣， - We just wanted it to not sound like a little folk ditty,
你知道吗? you know?
所以我们想要某种声音重量 So we wanted to have just some kind of sonic weight
在这一切之下， under all of that, and uh,
就是有点奇怪，搞砸了。 just something kinda weird and fucked up.
♬那是我父亲的声音在渐渐远去 ♪ It's my father's voice trailing off ♪
♬水手们在清晨起航 ♪ Sailors sailing off in the morning ♪
♬为空调房间♬ ♪ For the air-conditioned rooms ♪
♬在楼梯的顶端 ♪ At the top of the stairs ♪
-把A调到降B调，然后… - Tune the A string to a B flat and it...
♬这对我来说没什么区别 ♪ It makes no difference to me ♪
-然后你把它们放在一起 - And then you put them together,
你会看到一些非常神奇的时刻。 and you'll get some really magical moments.
♬哭遍了天涯海角 ♪ Cried all over, overseas ♪
♬当今晚贫穷的地方很热的时候 ♪ When it's hot in the poor places tonight ♪
♬我不出去♬ ♪ I'm not going outside ♪
-我们觉得这样有节奏就可以演奏了。 - And we thought that might be rhythmic enough to play to.
(鼓敲) (drums banging)
♬呼吸中有波旁威士忌的味道 ♪ There's bourbon on the breath ♪
♬你爱的歌手 ♪ Of the singer you love ♪
-这有点像，和一些噪音更大的音轨一样， - It's kind of, along with some of the more noise tracks,
但它是有节奏的，所以它是 but it's rhythmic, so it's something
他们可以配合。 that they can play along to.
♬他所有的话都是从书上学来的 ♪ He takes all his words from the books ♪
♬反正你也不读 ♪ That you don't read anyway ♪
-现在大约是凌晨三点。 - It's about three in the morning.
我们要么得到很棒的东西 We're either gonna get something great
或者失去理智。 or lose our fucking minds.
所有这些东西都在这里吵个不停? All these things are just blaring in here, you know?
就在那时，一切都爆发了。 That's when it all kind of exploded.
♬他们在海外到处哭泣 ♪ They cried all over, overseas ♪
♬这对我来说没什么区别 ♪ It makes no difference to me ♪
♬当今晚贫穷的地方很热的时候 ♪ When it's hot in the poor places tonight ♪
♬我不出去♬ ♪ I'm not going outside ♪
(钢琴演奏) (piano playing)
♬它让我喘不过气来 ♪ And it takes all the breath out of me ♪
♪当我哭遍四海，海外♪ ♪ When I cry all over, overseas ♪
♬当今晚贫穷的地方很热的时候 ♪ When it's hot in the poor places tonight ♪
♬我不出去♬ ♪ I'm not going outside ♪
今夜贫穷的地方很热 ♪ It's hot in the poor places tonight ♪
♬我不出去♬ ♪ I'm not going outside ♪
(仪器刺耳) (instruments blaring)
——[女声短波]扬基旅馆狐步舞。 - [Female Shortwave Radio Voice] Yankee Hotel Foxtrot.
洋基 Yankee
酒店 Hotel
狐步舞。 Foxtrot.
洋基 Yankee
酒店 Hotel
狐步舞。 Foxtrot.
(汽车喇叭) (car honking)
(口琴演奏) (harmonica playing)
-嘿，你好吗，伙计?-很高兴见到你。 - Hey, how you doing, man? - Good to see you.
-(西班牙语) - (speaking in Spanish)
一，二，三。 One, two, three.
一，二，三，叫它洛克和… One, two, three, call it Rock and...
所以，在你现在的社区里， So, with the community that you are doing now,
你有没有演奏音乐…… did you play music...
你觉得你的音乐能打动孩子们吗 Do you think that your music reaches out to the children
谁没有战斗的机会? who don't have a fighting chance?
——嗯… - Um...
♬当你知道…♪ ♪ The moment you know ... ♪
♬它甚至没有你一半好 ♪ It's not even half as nice as you ♪
♬让我的目光投向一个轻轻的吻。♪ ♪ Set my sights on one whispery kiss. ♪
我会签的。 I'll sign that.
如果你知道怎么拼写Simone的话。——S-I-M-O-N-E ? If you know how to spell Simone. - S-I-M-O-N-E?
-[托尼]听起来不错。 - [Tony] That sounds like right, yeah.
-真正的朋友。 - [Jeff] Real pal.
-你的记录… - Your record...
我有个主意。 I have an idea.
它会以光盘形式出现吗? Does it come out on compact disc?
——嗯。 - Mmhmm.
♬昨晚又梦见杀了你 ♪ Dreamed about killing you again last night ♪
♬对我来说一切都很好 ♪ And it felt all right to me ♪
♬死在安巴卡德罗天空的岸边 ♪ Dying on the banks of Embarcadero skies ♪
♬我坐着看着你流血 ♪ I sat and watched you bleed ♪
-说真的，我们多做点事吧 - Seriously, let's just do a lot
今晚的人群控制得很好 of good crowd control tonight, and,
你知道，把政治的事提出来。 you know, bring up the whole political thing.
只是他妈的… Just fucking...
是啊，关于女权的事， Yeah, the whole thing about women's rights,
女同性恋权利之类的。 lesbian's rights, and stuff like that.
-我要跟着唱 - I'm gonna play to it.
我要在观众面前表演。 I'm gonna play to the crowd.
——酷。-有个 - Cool. - There's um--
-因为你知道，我的意思是，道琼斯指数下跌了大约30%， - 'Cause you know, I mean, the DOW is down about 30%,
你知道，我一看就知道了 you know, and soon as I looked at that I just knew
我们知道你处于什么位置之类的。 that we know what kinda position you're in and stuff.
-我要去拍一些大人物的马屁… - I've gotta kiss some major ass to...
你知道要得到它…… You know to get it...
得到……我的作品集重新组合起来了。 To get... my portfolio back together.
-当然，当然。-你知道吗? - Totally, totally. - You know?
我有……-我听到了，伙计 I have... - I hear you, man.
完全。 Totally.
我解雇了我的股票经纪人。 - I canned my stockbroker.
-是的。-两周前。 - Yeah. - Two weeks ago.
-汉普顿那边怎么样，还好吗? - How's the place out in the Hampton's, good?
-嗯，这是一间待修的房子。 - Hmm, it's a fixer upper.
我是说，泳池糟透了。 I mean, the pool is shit.
它得换了。-斯皮尔伯格告诉我， It's gotta be replaced. - Spielberg told me,
他告诉我，“我去了杰夫家，” he told me, "I went over to Jeff's,"
因为他知道你的音乐 you know, 'cause he knows that your fucking music
都是胡扯。 is all big bullshit thing.
——正确的。-然后他就说 - Right. - And he was just like,
"我看到他的泳池了" "I saw his fucking pool," you know,
他只是… and he was just, uh...
他很有趣。 He's funny.
他让我想起了很多你。 You know, he reminds me a lot of you.
你真笨 You are stupid
(音乐盖过了扬声器的声音) (music drowns out speaker)
你会说这是卑鄙还是种族歧视? Was that mean or racist, you would say?
♬狙击手很难看到我的朋友 ♪ Snipers are harder to see my friends ♪
挤出你的周末 ♪ Weeding out your weekend ♪
♬夏天来了，地心引力把你毁灭了 ♪ Summer comes and gravity undoes you ♪
♬你很快乐，因为阳光弯弯曲曲的样子很可爱 ♪ You're happy because the lovely way the sunshine bends ♪
♬躲着你的好朋友 ♪ Hiding from your close friends ♪
挤出你的周末 ♪ Weeding out your weekends ♪
(喝彩声) (crowd cheering)
♬万圣节剩下的糖果 ♪ Candy left over from Halloween ♪
万能的统一理论 ♪ A unified theory of everything ♪
♬爱是恋人离开留下的 ♪ Love left over from lovers leaving ♪
♬书，他们都知道自己不值得一读 ♪ Books, they all know they're not worth reading ♪
♬不适合这个季节 ♪ It's not for the season ♪
这是一个… That's a...
(喝彩声) (crowd cheering)
一首新歌。 One of the new songs.
来自我们即将发行的Wilco唱片。 From our upcoming Wilco record.
我们的声音完全不像那样 We sound nothing like that
记录在案。 on the record.
诗? Poetry?
你是说我的歌词是诗吗? Are you saying that my lyrics are poetry?
(观众笑) (crowd laughs)
我喜欢你。 I like you.
这里还有一些诗给你。(观众笑) Here's some more poetry for you. (crowd laughs)
-我想出去玩一些声学表演。 - I wanted to go out and play some shows acoustically.
这似乎是个做这件事的好时机。 It seemed like a good time to do it.
我们有段时间没有巡演了， We haven't really toured for awhile,
记录还在不断刷新 and record's still being made,
然后从记录中休息一下 and took a little break from the record
去放点音乐，看看情况如何。 to go play some music and see how things go.
(杰夫吹口琴) (Jeff playing harmonica)
♬那里有一排排的房子 ♪ There are rows and rows of houses ♪
♬窗户被漆成蓝色 ♪ With windows painted blue ♪
♬在电视的灯光下 ♪ With the light from the TV ♪
♬与你平行奔跑 ♪ Running parallel to you ♪
♬没有沉没的宝藏 ♪ There is no sunken treasure ♪
♬传闻是♬ ♪ Rumored to be ♪
-杰夫，还记得斯科特吗? - Jeff, you remember Scott?
-你好吗? - How are you?
是啊，你好吗? Yeah, how you doing?
-干得好，伙计。-谢谢。 - Great job, man. - Well thanks.
小心。 Watch out.
-认识我的朋友莎拉吗? - Know my friend Sarah?
-是的，是的。 - Yeah, yeah.
♬在大海里♬ ♪ In a sea ♪
♬黑色的墨水♬ ♪ Black with ink ♪
-很高兴认识你，我在WEA工作。 - Nice to meet you, I work at WEA.
-嘿，谢谢。-杰夫，看起来不错。 - Hey, thank you. - Jeff, looks great.
-这是WEA特遣队。——米奇?好吧。 - This is the WEA contigent. - Mitch? Alright.
所有WEA的人? All WEA folks?
-不是全部。 - Not all.
霍伊特，上次唱片店的 Hoyt, from Last Record Store
在加州的圣罗莎。 in Santa Rosa, California.
-一路推着威尔科 - Pushing Wilco all the way.
-好吧。 - All right.
♬把它折叠起来 ♪ Fold it over ♪
如果我有一艘船 ♪ If I had a boat ♪
♬我可能会♬ ♪ I'd probably ♪
♬翻过来♬ ♪ Roll over ♪
-嘿，新唱片是不是更像是， - Hey, is the new record more like,
会不会更像a.m.， is it gonna be more like A.M.,
还是会更像夏牙? or is it gonna be more like Summerteeth?
-这两个都不太像 - Uh, it's really not that much like either one
在这些记录中， of those records,
我不这么认为。——哦。真的吗? I don't think, so. - Ooh. Really?
♬肯定会有人的 ♪ Surely there's somebody ♪
♬谁需要♬ ♪ Who needs ♪
♬它比我多 ♪ It more than me ♪
听起来像是一张旅行专辑什么的 - [Fan] It sounded like it was a trip hop album or something
带着磁带圈和样品。 with tape loops and samples.
-有些东西 - There are those things,
但又不像旅行唱片。 but it's not like a trip hop record.
♬我是这样的♬ ♪ I am so ♪
♬走调了♬ ♪ Out of tune ♪
♬我是这样的♬ ♪ I am so ♪
♬走调了♬ ♪ Out of tune ♪
♬和你在一起♬ ♪ With you ♪
我很满意，我们差不多完成了， I'm happy with it, and we're almost done with it,
所以还得再等一个月左右。 so just have to wait another month or so.
一个月或两个月。 Month or two months.
-你们要马上巡演吗? - And you guys are gonna tour on that straight away?
-也许吧，我不知道。 - Maybe, I don't know.
嗯，希望能在七月上映。 Well, hopefully it'll come out in July.
这是,嗯…… It's, um...
里面有很多鼓和洞， It's got a lot of the drums and holes,
还有歌曲中的漏洞。 and holes in the songs.
- [Sarah](笑)所以你会说， - [Sarah] (laughs) So you're like,
Courtney Love在里面吗?(笑) is Courtney Love in them? (laughs)
——没有。——没有。 - No. - No.
-对不起。 - [Sarah] Sorry.
-本该在的地方之间的空地 - Open spaces between what's supposed to be
音乐部分。 the music part.
我不知道。 I don't know.
我走了。 I'm gone.
(笑) (group laughs)
♬所有的♬ ♪ All ♪
♬会♬ ♪ Will ♪
♬返回♬ ♪ Return ♪
♬音乐是我的救星 ♪ Music is my savior ♪
♬我被摇滚乐弄残了♬ ♪ I was maimed by rock and roll ♪
♬我得到了我的名字 ♪ I got my name ♪
♬从摇滚中走来 ♪ From rock and roll ♪
(喝彩声) (crowd cheering)
(电话拨号) (phone dialing)
-[旁白]你是谁? - [Voice Over Speaker] Yeah, who are you?
-我是杰夫。 - Uh, it's Jeff.
(门哔哔声) (door beeps)
——酷吗? - Cool?
-是的，看起来不错。-很好，就是这样 - Yeah, seems fine. - Great, that's exactly
你会得到的混合。 the mix you'll have out there.
播放(大提琴) (cello playing)
♬我怎么能说服你，是我不喜欢♬ ♪ How can I convince you, it's me I don't like ♪
不要对你的眼神那么漠不关心 ♪ And not be so indifferent to the look in your eyes ♪
♬当我一直疏远你 ♪ When I've always been distant ♪
♬我总是为了爱而说谎 ♪ And I've always told lies for love ♪
♬我知道这不是你想要我说的 ♪ I know this isn't what you were wanting me to say ♪
♬我怎样才能更近，又离得更远 ♪ How can I be closer and get further away ♪
♪从事实证明谎言是美丽的♪ ♪ From the truth that proves it's beautiful to lie ♪
♬我已经♬ ♪ I've ♪
♬预订了♬ ♪ Got reservations ♪
♬关于那么多的事情 ♪ About so many things ♪
♬但不是关于你 ♪ But not about you ♪
-然后也许… - And then maybe...
播放(大提琴) (cello playing)
还不错，我不知道，你懂的。 It's not bad, I don't know, you know.
这是…… It's...
——确定。 - Sure.
-[杰]是的。 - [Jay] Yeah.
-[制作人]这只是一首单曲。 - [Producer] It's only a single.
-这是他第一次这么做 - It's the first time where he does
♬我要预订♬ ♪ I've gotta reservation ♪
-是的。 - So yeah.
是的，第一个是双份的。 Yeah, the first one is the double one.
(忧郁的音乐) (somber music)
——好的。(笑) - Okay. (laughs)
-[杰]道格，我想他会远离 - [Jay] Doug, I think he's gonna stay away from--
-那是什么? - What's that?
呃，我想， Uh, I guess,
接下来的四五天。 next four or five days.
是的，我们在混合。 Yeah, we're mixing.
我不在阁楼。 I'm not at the loft.
我在演播室。 I'm at the studio.
托尼在这里。 Tony's here.
好吧。 All right.
好吧，我晚点打给你。 Well, I'll call you later.
睡衣吗? Pajama day?
-这就像， - This is like,
这是需要的记录 this is the record that needs to
把乐队带到另一个层次。 take the band to another level.
如果这没有发生， If that didn't happen,
那将是一场悲剧，一种错失良机的感觉， it would be a tragic, sort of missed opportunity,
而且会伤到乐队。 and that it would damage the band.
-我想我做的每一张唱片， - I think every record I've ever made,
有人说过，这是一个大问题。 somebody has said, this is the big one.
(笑)你们会大获成功的， (laughs) You guys are gonna be huge,
当我看到现实情况时， and when I saw the reality of the situation,
我觉得相信它有点蠢。 I felt a little dumb for believing it.
不做任何改变，永远不知道 ♪ Make no difference ever known ♪
♬这对我来说没什么区别 ♪ It made no difference ever known to me ♪
- [Jay画外音]我们确实有一个新的艺人开发部的人，尼尔。 - [Jay Voiceover] We do have a new A&R guy, Neil.
他比上一个更年轻，更酷， He's really younger and cooler than our last guy,
所以谁知道呢。 so who knows.
也许他会进来说一些很酷的话， Maybe he'll come in and say something really cool,
你知道吗? you know?
也许他会很棒。 Maybe he'll be great.
♬我是那个爱你的人 ♪ I'm the man who loves you ♪
-我觉得这听起来很棒。 - I think this sounds great.
-是啊，只是换了一首歌… - Yeah, it's just a different song...
你想再听一遍新的吗? Do you wanna hear the new one again?
-你们能告诉我是什么吗 - Can you guys tell me what it is
关于鼓的声音 about the drums sounds on this
这不会发生吗? that's not happening?
你说你弄不到好的军鼓声? You said you can't get a good snare sound?
-我们不能让它们变亮。 - [Glenn] We can't brighten them up.
-我觉得这就是它很酷的地方。 - I think that's what's kinda cool about it.
它们听起来很模糊，你知道吗? They're murky sounding, you know?
-这是你能从他们那里得到的全部。 - This is all you can get out of them.
-我觉得很棒。 - I think it's great.
-如果整首歌让你感觉不错， - If the overall song feels good to you,
你会爱上这些小细节的 you're gonna fall in love with the little parts of it
那太糟了。 that are fucked up.
总结一下我的想法， To sum up what I'm thinking,
你不能改变拼图的一个部分。 you can't change one piece of the puzzle.
——正确的。 - Right.
-我不认为清晰明亮的鼓 - I don't think well-defined bright drums
有存在感和定义就可以了 with presence and definition would serve
那首歌的感觉。 the feel of that song.
-你知道，这是一小时150美元的争吵， - You know, it's a $150 an hour argument,
不过没关系。(笑) but that's okay. (laughs)
-不管他们缺乏什么，我得说他们实际上是一种美德 - Whatever they lack, I'd say are actually a virtue
在这个切口。 in this cut.
-如果我们用这个新的，有更多的重做 - If we go with this new one, there is more redoing than
例如，杰夫在离开前就想过。 Jeff thought before he left, for instance.
现在发生的就是刚才发生的 What is coming up right now is exactly what came up
当我第一次和杰夫谈起这件事的时候 when I first started talking to Jeff about it which was,
我认为这会产生多米诺骨牌效应。 I think this does create a domino effect.
-有人对这首歌有意见吗 - Did anyone have any problem with this song
直到昨晚你开始 until last night when you started to
试着解除陷阱?-是的，绝对的。总是这样。 try to EQ the snare? - Yes, absolutely. Always.
从第一天开始。 Always since day one.
-也许我们应该把已知的东西混在一起。 - Maybe we should mix stuff that we know is done.
-没有什么压力，伙计。 - There is no fucking pressure, man.
这是在演播室的第二天 This is day two in the studio
为了这个记录。——三个。 for this record. - Three.
-三个，好的。 - Three, okay.
-(笑)压力还是这么大。 - (laughs) That's still all the pressure.
我只知道如果我们把这两种东西混合起来， I just know if we mix both of these, we're gonna go,
“两个都不是。” "Neither one's it."
我就是知道。 I just know it.
-我想如果我们混在一起就好了 - I think it'd be great if we just mixed
把所有的线索都留给阁楼。 and leave all tracking for the loft.
诚实。 Honestly.
-杰夫正在过来的路上。 - [Producer] Jeff's on his way down.
-提醒媒体 - Oh, alert the media.
(笑)他是不是， (laughs) Has he been,
他注意到情况了吗? was he alerted to the situation?
-[制片人]没有，他只是打电话来要进度报告。 - [Producer] No, he just called for a status report.
-你说状态不好? - Oh, and you said status not good?
-我们有一点停工。 - We had a little bit of a work stoppage.
磨，你知道，磨到停止。 A grinding, you know, grinding to a halt.
就像，等等， Like, well hold on,
“到底什么是…… "What exactly is the...
“我们该怎么做呢?” "how are we supposed to do this?"
我们真的在重新适应事情的发展 We're like, really readjusting to how things are gonna work
当我们在不同的环境中 when we're in a different environment
从我们豪华的 from our luxurious
小小的梦幻世界。 little dream world.
我们在这里每天要花1000美元。 We're spending $1,000 a day to be here.
从现在起只要我们被难住了， Anytime we get stumped from here on out,
我们应该向前看。 we should just move on.
-这就是我们要决定的。-是的。 - That's what we're deciding. - Yeah.
-是的，我想我们都已经决定了。 - Yeah, I think we've all kind of decided that.
我想，我不想把它们都混在一起。 I think, like, I don't wanna mix them both.
同时，我也不想太纠结于这件事。 At the same time, I don't wanna get too hung up on this.
这是一个重要的决定。 It's an important decision.
哎呀，我们刚好在这里的那天。 Oops, we happened to make it the day we were here.
或者没能成功，不管怎样，我们继续吧。 Or not make it, you know, whatever, let's move on.
你知道吗? You know?
我们在乐队里花了1000美元，做了更愚蠢的事。 We spent a $1,000 in stupider ways in this band.
就像在阿姆斯特丹的那次打击，那是… Like all that blow in Amsterdam, that was...
-哦，我一定是错过了。 - Oh, I must've missed out on that.
-杰夫的压力更大了 - There's more pressure on Jeff,
你知道，外在的和自我强加的。 you know, externally and self-imposed.
我认为, I think,
他知道…… he is aware that...
成功…… the success...
或失败, or failure,
在艺术上,主要是, artistically, primarily,
在记录中，大部分都反映在他身上。 of the record, reflects mostly on him.
(合唱) (choral music)
-切，然后真正的重金属鼓手的混合。 - Cut, then the real mix of Heavy Metal Drummer.
-好吧，我们为什么不能这么做呢 - All right, why couldn't we do that
我们在混音《重金属鼓手》的时候? when we were mixing Heavy Metal Drummer?
-为什么不现在就做呢? - Well, why not do it now?
-因为我们得下线，取消静音 - Because we gotta go offline, unmute everything
去查那东西在哪条轨道上。 to find out what track that thing's on.
-你就不能看看它在哪个轨道上出现吗? - Can't you just look and see what track it comes up on?
-是的，但我不知道是一首还是两首 - Yeah, but I don't know if it's just one track or two--
-好吧，我-或者是工具箱的哪一部分 - Okay, I-- - Or what part of the kit
它是。 it is.
-我们该怎么做 - How would we do it,
我们如何把它们分开来重叠呢? how would we overlap it mixing it separately?
只是出于好奇。-我们只是说 Just out of curiosity. - Well, we just say
乐队在重金属鼓手的顶部 the orchestra at the top of Heavy Metal Drummer
就在那里。——嗯。 is there. - Mmhmm.
它不需要是一个精通的东西吗? It wouldn't have to be a mastering thing?
-不，因为乐队在《重金属鼓手 - Well, no 'cause the orchestra is in Heavy Metal Drummer
重金属鼓手乐队的主唱。 at the top of Heavy Metal Drummer.
——好的。-但是，似乎 - Okay. - But, it seems,
在我看来，这是一种倒退。 that seems backwards to me.
为什么不把它混合到切点呢 Why not mix it up to the cut point
而不是试图混合另一种 instead of trying to mix the other one
从一个新的起点? from a new starting point?
为什么不把它混合到剪辑中呢? Why not mix it to the edit?
你懂我的意思吗? You know what I mean?
而不是重新编辑 Instead of making a new edit
当我们混合重金属鼓手? for when we mix Heavy Metal Drummer?
-好吧，敬我 - All right, to me
这是完全一样的。 it's the exact same thing.
你把一种混合到这里，或者从这里开始另一种混合。 You mix one up to here or you start the other mix here.
混合,开始。 Mix, start.
(Jay哼唱) (Jay humming)
-就在那儿。-好吧。 - Right there. - All right.
我不知道你想让它听起来 I didn't know that you wanted it to sound
就像这里一样。 exactly like it does here.
我以为你想要的是噪音 I thought you wanted it to be the noise
翻看重金属鼓手乐队的歌。 going over whatever was really on Heavy Metal Drummer there.
明白我的意思了吗? See what I'm saying?
-我不想让乐队变成重金属鼓手。 - I don't want the orchestra to go into Heavy Metal Drummer.
就在这里。 It cuts right there.
-对，我… - Right, and I...
好吧，好吧，让我解释一下。 Okay, okay, let me try to explain myself.
我不知道你 I didn't know that you--
-这比一个哑巴花的时间长多了。 - This is taking a lot longer than doing one mute.
-我知道，但我能解释一下吗? - I know, but can I explain myself, please?
直到现在我才知道你想要开始 I didn't know until now that you wanted it to start
有一个小工具箱，(杰伊哼着歌)大工具箱。 with a little kit, (Jay humming) big kit.
-我们可以两全其美，我是说 - Well, we can do it both ways, I mean--
-不，我才不在乎。 - No, I don't give a shit.
你误解了我的意思。 You misunderstood what I was saying.
我假设，显然是错的， I assumed, apparently wrong,
直到重金属鼓手开始演奏， that it was noise until Heavy Metal Drummer started,
但现在我明白了，它是管弦乐队，直到一个子集 but now I understand that it's orchestra until a subset
《重金属鼓手》开始，两小节之后， of Heavy Metal Drummer starts, then two measures later,
重金属鼓手真的开始了，对吧? Heavy Metal Drummer really starts, right?
——确定。-好吧，我不知道。 - Sure. - Okay, I didn't know that.
我以为我们只是在说， I thought we were just saying,
“嘿，如果把噪音调高就好了 "Hey, that would be cool if the noise went right up
“给重金属鼓手。” "to Heavy Metal Drummer."
明白了吗? Does that make sense?
——不管。是的，我不知道， - Whatever. Yeah, I don't know,
我不知道问题出在哪里。 I don't know what the problem is.
我不喜欢。 I don't.
-我只是想让你理解我 - I just want you to understand me,
明白我为什么在想 like understand why I was thinking--
-为什么这么重要? - Why's it so important?
我没必要一直听你说。 I don't have to understand you all the time.
(笑)就像，没关系。 (laughs) Like, it's okay.
我不…我们找到了，我们可以做到。 I don't... we found it, and we can do it.
-好吧，在我看来你是在小题大做 - Okay, it seems to me like you're making a big deal
出于不想……(笑) out of not wanting to... (laughs)
-不想? - Not wanting to?
好吧，我只是坐在这里想 Okay, I've just been sitting here trying to--
-我只是说-我一直在听 - I'm just saying-- - I've been listening
给你解释一下。 to you explain yourself.
-你明白吗? - [Jay] And do you understand it.
-当然，我理解。 - Sure, I understand it.
-好吧，你为什么不直接说， - Okay, why couldn't you just say,
“我明白你的意思。” "I understand what you're saying."
-是的。 - I did.
-[制作人]所以会是一个鼓乐队。 - [Producer] So it's gonna be a drum group.
-两秒钟前你还说:“为什么这么重要 - Two seconds ago you said, "Why is it so important
“我能理解你吗?” "that I understand you?"
-嗯，因为看起来不像 - Well, because it doesn't seem like
你要让我理解你。 you were gonna let me understand you.
(集体谈话淹没了演讲者的声音) (group talking drowns out speaker)
-是吗? - Is it,
说实话，我觉得这是个好主意。 I'm honestly, I thought that was an idea.
杰夫，我不想让你理解这个概念， Jeff, I don't wanna be understood about the concept,
我想让你明白误会是什么。 I want you to understand what the misunderstanding was.
-我想我要吐了。 - I think I'm gonna throw up.
(杰夫吐了) (Jeff throwing up)
♬我能做的都做了 ♪ Done all I could do ♪
♬我能说的都说了 ♪ And I said all I can say ♪
♬下个发薪日我会告诉你妈妈的 ♪ I'll tell it to your mother next pay day ♪
(冲厕所) (toilet flushing)
♬我现在没有糖了，宝贝 ♪ I got no sugar baby now ♪
♬我能说的都说了 ♪ I've said all I can say ♪
♬我能做的我都做了 ♪ And I've done all I can do ♪
♬我不能和你在一起 ♪ I can't along with you ♪
-[摄影师]是药物的问题吗? - [Cameraman] Is it the medication?
-不，我只是经常呕吐 - No, I just throw up all the time
当我偏头痛的时候。 when I have migraines.
当我还是个孩子的时候，我呕吐过…… When I was a kid, I threw up...
我以前一晚上吐30次 I used to throw up like 30 times in a night
然后因为脱水被送进医院 and get put in the hospital for dehydration.
啊，感觉好多了。 Ah, that feels better.
你说得对，这是半打中的六打。 You're right, it's six of one half dozen of another.
我很抱歉。-该死，我想 I'm sorry. - Damn, I guess
我没有解释我自己。 I wasn't explaining myself.
看，我们必须， See we have to,
现在我们必须在其他事情上做我们所有的动作。 now we have to do all our outro mutes on everything else.
——为什么?因为你切了?-因为我们… - Why? Because you cut it? - Because we...
因为我们还有很多其他的店没开 Well, 'cause we have a bunch of other things open
不动。-难道不是吗? still. - But won't it,
就在这里切? it just cuts right there?
-不，但是到那里。 - No, but up to there.
你懂我的意思吗?-对了。 You know what I mean? - Oh, right.
-到那里。 - Up to there.
-反正我们也得这么做 - Well, we would've had to do that anyway.
-是啊，有些我们会的。 - Yeah, some of that we would've, yeah.
但是我是，是的。 But I was, yeah.
我在想我们还是开始吧 I was just thinking we'd just start
重金属鼓手那样， Heavy Metal Drummer that way,
我也是这么想的，知道吗? was what I was thinking, you know?
我很好，我很好，好吗? I'm cool, I'm totally cool, all right?
这是结束了。 It's over.
-现在，嗯 - Right now, um,
Reprise Records正处于一种非常严重的不稳定状态 Reprise Records is in a pretty serious state of flux
这让我有点紧张 which I'm a bit nervous about.
你知道吗?我是说，我不担心 You know? I mean, I'm not worried
关于唱片出不来的事。 about the record not coming out.
-不不不唱片会出来的 - No, no, no. The record will come out,
但你不知道我们是否会得到 but you don't know whether we're gonna be getting
同样的热情来自于任何人 the same sort of enthusiasm out of whoever
替代者是。 the replacement person is.
——正确的。-这只是个谜。 - Right. - It's just mystery.
-如果我们这么做 - If we do it,
让我们做……-“一定很High”怎么样 let's do... - What about Must be High
还是赌场皇后? or Casino Queen?
——不。 - Nah.
-我只是从摇滚乐的角度考虑，伙计。 - I'm just thinking in terms of rockers, man.
-是的。 - Yeah.
-(笑)如果我们有轻松的摇滚乐手， - (laughs) If we got easy rockers,
我们也许应该…… we should probably...
-我不想再这样了。 - I don't wanna do that anymore.
-我应该写这三个中的任何一个吗? - Should I write any of those three?
-你不想摇滚吗? - [Jay] You don't wanna rock?
-你说什么? - What did you say?
-不，我不想退让 - No, I don't wanna just fall back
在一堆轻松的摇滚乐上。 on a bunch of easy rockers.
-不，不。 - No, no.
我只是在想，还有四天的练习时间 I'm just thinking with four days to practice
还有四场演出。 and four shows.
-[格伦]一，二， - [Glenn] One, two,
一，二，三，四。 one, two, three, four.
(欢快的摇滚音乐) (upbeat rock music)
♬为什么我的心满是窟窿 ♪ Why, I wonder, is my heart full of holes ♪
♬感觉过去了，但我的头发还在长 ♪ And the feeling goes but my hair keeps growing ♪
♬我会不会落，太阳会不会落 ♪ Will I set, the sun ♪
♬在一辆大轮马车上♬ ♪ On a big-wheeled wagon ♪
♬我在吹牛 ♪ I'm bragging ♪
♬我一直在恋爱 ♪ I'm always in love ♪
♬当我放开你的喉咙，甜美的油门 ♪ When I let go of your throat, sweet throttle ♪
♬当我清理你的黑带模型的鞭子♬ ♪ When I clean the lash of your black belt model ♪
♬我会抓住月亮吗 ♪ Will I catch the moon ♪
♬就像笼子里的小鸟 ♪ Like a bird in a cage ♪
♬我为你而迷醉 ♪ It's for you I swoon ♪
♬我一直在恋爱 ♪ I'm always in love ♪
♬我不明白其中的联系 ♪ I don't get the connection ♪
♬这只是一个测试 ♪ This is only a test ♪
希望我能做到最好 ♪ Hope I do my best ♪
♬你知道我不会忘记的 ♪ You know I won't forget ♪
♬把寒冷折叠在我倒时差的手掌里 ♪ Fold the cold in my jet-lag palm ♪
♬当我浸泡太久，我忘记了我的母亲 ♪ When I soak so long I forget my mother ♪
♬我会不会落，太阳会不会落 ♪ Will I set, the sun ♪
♬在一辆大轮马车上♬ ♪ On a big-wheeled wagon ♪
♬我在吹牛 ♪ I'm bragging ♪
♬我一直在恋爱 ♪ I'm always in love ♪
♪拖♪拽 ♪ Drag I snag ♪
♬我一直在恋爱 ♪ I'm always in love ♪
♬我很担心♬ ♪ I'm worried ♪
♬我一直在恋爱 ♪ I'm always in love ♪
♬我很担心，我很担心 ♪ I'm worried, I'm worried ♪
♬我担心我一直在恋爱 ♪ I'm worried I'm always in love ♪
♬我很担心，我很担心 ♪ I'm worried, I'm worried ♪
♬我担心我一直在恋爱 ♪ I'm worried I'm always in love ♪
♬我很担心，我很担心 ♪ I'm worried, I'm worried ♪
♬我担心我一直在恋爱 ♪ I'm worried I'm always in love ♪
♬我很担心，我很担心 ♪ I'm worried, I'm worried ♪
♬我担心我总是在恋爱中 ♪ I'm worried that I'm always in love ♪
♬呜-呼，呜-呼 ♪ Woo-Hoo, Woo-Hoo ♪
-我都愿意。 - I'd go either way.
-当这张唱片完成的时候， - When this record ended up being finished,
我感觉更新鲜了 it actually felt fresher to me
比我们做大货后几个月的感觉要好 than it had felt for months after we did a bulk
你知道，那是一年多的录音 of the recording, you know, over a year
大约在那年年底的某个时候， or so, and somewhere towards the end of that year,
这是一种吹毛求疵的做法 it got to be kind of nit-picking and going back
重新追踪歌曲并确切地知道 and re-tracking songs and knowing exactly
我们所追求的， what we were going for,
更少的探索性， less exploratory, and,
这开始变得有点艰难了 and that was starting to get kinda rough
等我们去CRC混的时候 by the time we went to CRC to mix.
-我们在某些事情上陷入了困境，比如重做鼓。 - We got bogged down in certain things like redoing drums.
——正确的。-你知道，某些电话 - Right. - You know, certain calls
这些都是后来帮助我们的好东西， that were good that helped us later on,
但不知什么原因，它陷入了僵局。 but for whatever reason, it just bogged down.
-在索马做唱片，最后的混音 - Doing the record, the final mixes, at Soma
并通过吉姆·奥洛克的耳朵听到它们， and hearing them through Jim O'Rourke's ears,
实际上是和一个走过来的人一起听到的 actually hearing it with someone who was coming at it
有了新的视角， with some fresh perspective,
能够在最后的混音中合作， and being able to collaborate on the final mixes,
有点像，嗯，我们把所有的东西都扔了 kinda like, well, we're kinda throwing everything
窗外， out the window,
但我们也在回归 but we're also kinda getting back
回到原来的样子。 to what the original thing was.
-当吉姆完全没听过的时候 - When it went to Jim with completely fresh ears,
他听起来有点不一样， he heard them a little differently,
我们一听到他是怎么混音的 and right away, as soon as we heard how he was mixing
我试着让你心碎，他混合的第一个东西， I'm Trying to Break Your Heart, the first thing he mixed,
然后我就想， then it was like,
“哦，这真的有用。”-这就是为什么乐队 "Oh, this really works." - That's why bands
不要把唱片混在一起。 don't mix records.
-我是说，那绝对就像 - I mean, definitely it was like a,
这是合作的最后阶段。 it was a final stage of collaboration.
就像混音唱片， Like mixing the record,
我一直觉得混音应该是这样的， that's what I always felt like mixing should be,
这应该是灵感的最后阶段。 like it should be the last stage of inspiration.
我想我们试着让它变得强大 I think we've tried to make it powerful
比如用两把吉他。 like with two guitars.
-你能加强语气吗 - Can you beef up your tone
那就一点点吧?-是的，是的。 a little then or something? - Yeah, yeah.
-好的，好的。-现在太稳定了 - Okay, okay. - It's just so steady now.
-我觉得感觉很棒，伙计。 - I thought it was feeling great, man.
天啊，我觉得那感觉很棒。 God, I thought it felt great.
-不，我是说我们可以再试试那两把吉他 - No, I mean we can try the two guitars again
如果感觉太弱， if it feels too weak,
我只是觉得我们试过这两个… I just think that we tried the two...
我觉得那两把吉他已经过时了，你知道吗? I think the two guitar things might be obsolete, you know?
——嗯… - Uh...
我不确定那是什么意思，但我会尽力的。(笑) I'm not sure what that means, but I'll try. (laughs)
不，我只是觉得 No, I'm just, that felt
对我来说很好，仅此而已。-不，我是说… great to me, that's all. - No, I mean...
那是什么? what's that?
-我感觉很好，仅此而已。 - That felt great to me, that's all.
-不，我-我就是喜欢摇滚 - No, I-- - I just love fucking rocking,
你知道吗?这是所有。 you know? That's all.
(安静的摇滚乐) (quiet rock music)
♬上帝啊，别哭了 ♪ Jesus, don't cry ♪
♬你可以信赖我，亲爱的 ♪ You can rely on me honey ♪
♬你可以组合任何你想要的东西 ♪ You can combine anything you want ♪
♬我会在你身边 ♪ I'll be around ♪
♬你对星星的看法是对的 ♪ You were right about the stars ♪
♬每一个都是夕阳 ♪ Each one is a setting sun ♪
♬高楼大厦会摇晃 ♪ Tall buildings shake ♪
♪逃避的声音唱着悲伤，悲伤的歌♪ ♪ Voices escape singing sad, sad songs ♪
♬调谐到你脸颊上的和弦 ♪ Tuned to chords strung down your cheeks ♪
-事实上，我们正式交付了唱片 - We, actually, officially delivered the record
或者把唱片的最终混音发给他们。 or sent them the final mixes of the record.
-我肯定有五六十种可能 - I must've had 50, 60 definite possibilities
杂志特写，更别说上电视了 for magazine features, let alone television appearances
我们开始… which were starting to...
邀请接踵而来，我就想， Offers were coming in, and I just thought,
"天啊，这太棒了"你知道吗? "Boy, this is gonna be so great," you know?
都准备好了。 It's all set.
我觉得媒体一直都很喜欢威尔科， I think, the press has always loved Wilco,
但现在我们要把它提升到另一个层次。 but now we're gonna take it even to another level.
-不过我们送唱片的时候 - When we delivered the record, though,
我们大概有两周没收到他们的消息? we didn't hear from them for like two weeks, you know?
所以我们认为这可能不是一件好事。 So we thought that was probably not a good thing.
-我知道我坐在什么东西上了 - I knew that I was sitting on something
人们会破门而入去抢。 that people were gonna beat down the door to get.
然后就没有进展了。 And then the advances didn't get made.
琼来了，我想， So June is rolling along, and I'm going,
“嗯，我们正在浪费时间，我们正在因为截止日期而失去员工。 "Well, we're losing time, we're losing people to deadlines.
“他们无法覆盖这张唱片 "They're not gonna be able to cover this record
“如果我们不快点，” "if we don't hurry up,"
然后在六月的第三周， and then about the third week in June,
我听说有个问题。 I'd heard there's a problem.
-接下来我听到的是 - Next thing I heard was
那。 that...
他们要求我们更改记录。 They asked us to change the record.
我不知道他们想让我们改变什么 I don't know what they wanted us to change, and
托尼告诉我，这是他们的反应， Tony told me that, that was their response,
我告诉托尼我们不感兴趣 and I told Tony that we weren't interested
在改变记录。 in changing the record.
-他们的艺人开发部代表是Mio Vukovic， - Their A&R representative was Mio Vukovic,
而我所听到的 and what I'd heard,
就像我说的，我从没和威尔科说过话 like I said I'd never talked to Wilco
关于这个链条是如何发生的， about the way this chain happened,
但我从我这边听到的是 but what I heard from my side was that
Mio对唱片的改动有一些想法， Mio had some ideas about changes to the record,
或者额外的录音，或者混音，或者类似的事情， or additional recording, or mixing, or things like that,
乐队觉得， and the band had felt like,
“这是记录。我们就完了。” "That's the record. We're finished."
你知道，我们并不想做出改变， You know, we're not really in the mind to make changes,
这是一种“要么接受，要么放弃，” and it's sort of a, "Take it or leave it,"
我想是米奥的老板大卫·卡恩 and I think it went up to Mio's boss David Kahn,
华纳和Reprise的艺人开发部主管， the head of A&R for Warners and Reprise,
我觉得Mio是对的，确实需要做出改变 felt like Mio was right and that changes did need to be made
如果乐队对制作它们不感兴趣 and if the band wasn't interested in making them,
那它们应该在另一个标签上。 then they should probably be on another label.
-接下来我听到的是他们想知道 - Next thing I heard was that they wanted to know
如果我们想离开。 if we wanted to leave.
-我只是觉得我们被耍了 - Well I just think that we've been jerked
绕了那么多次， around so many times,
这是终极的胡闹。 and that this is the ultimate jerking around.
你知道，这就像， You know, this like,
"我们要甩掉你"之类的话。 "We're gonna drop you," shit or whatever it is.
或者，“你可以退出交易。” Or, "You can get out of the deal."
不管你怎么看， Either way you wanna look at it,
它仍然主要是被胡乱摆弄着， it's still majorly being jerked around and,
我为什么要认为事情会改变呢? you know, why should I think that things are gonna change?
-其实是托尼第一次告诉我的时候 - Actually when Tony first told me
这是有可能的， that this was a possibility,
我必须完全诚实， I have to be completely honest,
这伤了我的感情。 it hurt my feelings.
就像一种被拒绝的感觉。 It's like a feeling of rejection.
-这不仅仅是某种承诺 - It's gotta be more than some sort of promise of,
"我们爱你，我们会照顾你的" "We love you, and we're gonna take care of you."
你明白我的意思吗? Do you know what I mean?
因为这些我们都听过了， Because we've heard all that before,
我只是觉得这一集的伤口 and I just think that the wound from this episode
制作这张唱片，发行这张唱片， of making this record, delivering the record,
结果除了头疼什么都没得到 and getting basically nothing but headaches in return
伤口很深，很难愈合。 is pretty deep and gonna be pretty tough to heal.
你不仅仅是在交易， And you're not just dealing,
我不是唯一一个你要安慰的人。 I'm not the only person you gotta make feel better.
-我们没说得太具体 - We never got too specific
关于什么 about what exactly
让他们讨厌它。 made them hate it.
-好吧，但我只想让你明白一件事。 - Okay, but I just want you to understand one thing.
这真的很重要。 This is really important.
现在，我认为对乐队来说最好的事情， Right now, I believe that the best thing for the band,
为了乐队，为了乐队的现在和未来， for the band, the present and future of the band,
就是离开Reprise唱片公司 is to be away from Reprise Records.
-在Reprise的核心圈子里，这是一个奇怪的时期 - It was at a weird time in Reprise's inner circle
因为曾任总统的豪伊·克莱因 because Howie Klein, who had been president
很长一段时间 of Reprise for a long time,
因为Reprise重新启动了， since Reprise was reactivated,
图珀洛叔叔在塞尔的时候他也在塞尔， he'd also been at Sire when Uncle Tupelo was on Sire,
乐队的一个忠实粉丝刚离开厂牌。 and a big fan of the band had just left the label.
事实上，我觉得乐队交出唱片的那天， In fact I think the day that the band turned in the record,
六月底，就在那时 the end of June, right around then,
那是他的最后一天。 that was his last day.
——退休后一两天，我接到了一个电话 - A day or two after I retired, I got a phone call
来自威尔科众多众多众多粉丝之一 from one of Wilco's many, many, many, many fans
在华纳兄弟。 at Warner Brothers.
那是我接到的第一个电话 That was the first of many phone calls I got
告诉我威尔科被抛弃了 telling me that Wilco was dropped.
-如果我是高管的话，我会这么想 - I would guess that if I was an executive
在一家唱片公司，高层管理人员。 at a record company, high up executive.
我不是指那些在战壕里工作的人， I don't mean the people working in the trenches,
但我是说那些，你知道的， but I mean the guys with, you know,
镀金的手机，你知道的。 the gold plated cell phones, you know.
如果我在上面听扬基酒店狐步舞， If I was up there and I listened to Yankee Hotel Foxtrot,
我可能不会明白。 I probably wouldn't get it.
为什么我不明白? Why don't I get it?
因为它没告诉我到底是给谁的， Because it doesn't tell me exactly who it's for,
它没告诉我具体是怎么回事， it doesn't tell me exactly what it's about,
它也没有告诉我它到底能卖多少。 and it doesn't tell me exactly how much it will sell.
-你知道吗，据我所知 - You know what, from what I gather,
我想他们不认为有一个 I think that they didn't think there was a single
在…上工作 to work on.
-里面有很多好东西 - There's pretty stuff in there,
里面有硬的东西， there's hard stuff in there,
里面有神秘感，真的很甜蜜 there's mystery in there, there's really sweet
曲调，还有，你知道，那里也有擦伤。 tunes, and there's, you know, an abrasion in there as well.
但都在那里，而且 But it's all there, and
你真的要接受它。 you really have to kinda sit with it.
你得给自己留点时间 You have to allow yourself the time
为了得到一些东西。 to get something out of it.
-威尔科不可能被抛弃 - There's no chance that Wilco would've ever been dropped
当时我是Reprise唱片公司的总裁 when I was president of Reprise Records.
-我们现在处于 - We're now in a,
一种文化，不仅仅是一种商业， a culture, not just a business,
而是一种我们期待一切都会发生的文化 but a culture in which we expect everything to happen
就像这样，你知道吗? like that, you know?
人们站在外面聊天 You have people outside standing around talking
在手机上，你知道。 on cell phones, you know.
对话的要点是， The gist of the conversation is,
“我五分钟后到。” "I'll be there in five minutes."
谁他妈在乎?(笑) Who gives a fuck? (laughs)
五分钟后到 Just be there in five minutes,
别再提了，知道吗? don't talk about it, you know?
人们太没耐心了，而且 People are just so impatient, and
因此，你知道， as a result, you know,
我们在观察事物 we're looking at things
比如，“嗯，多少时间 in ways like, "Well, how much time
“我一定要全身心投入吗?” "do I have to devote to this?"
这真的很可悲，因为，你知道， And it's really sad because, you know,
音乐、艺术、文学、诗歌、 music, art, literature, poetry,
甚至是伟大的技术发明。 even great technological inventions.
它们不应该这么快就完成。 They're not meant to be done and done with that quickly.
-被扇耳光的感觉有点震惊 - It was like kinda just a shock to be slapped
在脸上，嗯… in the face with, um...
这个经过计算的世界 This calculated world
国际的，跨国的(笑) of international, multi-national (laughs)
任何公司。 whatever incorporation.
♬我想谢谢你 ♪ I'd like to thank you ♪
♬毫无意义♬ ♪ For nothing ♪
♬我什么都不想谢谢你 ♪ I'd like to thank you for nothing at all ♪
♬我想谢谢你 ♪ I'd like to thank you ♪
♬毫无意义♬ ♪ For nothing ♪
什么都没有 ♪ Nothing ♪
什么都没有 ♪ Nothing at all ♪
(喝彩声) (crowd cheering)
-我在这里看到一支在艺术上很有野心的乐队。 - I see a band here that is really ambitious artistically.
这不是VH1的音乐背后的故事。 It's not a VH1 Behind the Music story.
这根本不是毒品，追星族，名人之类的故事。 It's not a drugs, groupies, celebrity kind of story at all.
这支乐队的故事就是音乐。 This band's story is the music.
二十年后，他们可能会得到 Twenty years from now, they're probably gonna get
比他们现在应得的更多。 more their due than they are now.
我不认为他们是一支合群的乐队 I don't think they're a band that fits in
和收音机里播放的很多音乐有关。 with a lot of what music gets played on the radio.
它的唱片将会升值 The appreciation for its records is gonna increase
随着时间的推移。 as time goes on.
(Glenn鼓) (Glenn drumming)
-在制作这张唱片的过程中， - In the making of this record,
我觉得没有人支持我，没有。 I felt like I got no support, zero.
情感, Emotional,
金融、 financial,
无论什么。 whatever.
然后在这个过程中， Then at some point in the process,
你开始问自己， you start asking yourself,
“他们在干什么?” "What are they doing?"
我们不需要钱。 We don't need the money.
乐队可以出去演出赚钱 The band can go out and play gigs and make the money
为记录买单。 to pay for the record.
他们没在无线电上听到乐队的声音。 They're not getting the band on the radio.
你知道，这真的， You know, it's really,
在这一点上， at this point to me,
它们的价值对我们来说非常非常值得怀疑。 their value's really, really questionable to us.
(播放吉他) (guitar playing)
(喝彩声) (crowd cheering)
(欢快的摇滚音乐) (upbeat rock music)
♬我有你，这就是我所需要的 ♪ I got you and it's all I need ♪
♬我得到你了♬ ♪ I got you ♪
♬我有你，我仍然相信 ♪ I got you and I still believe ♪
♬你是我唯一的需要 ♪ That you're all I will ever need ♪
♬是你 ♪ It's you ♪
♬所有的♬ ♪ All ♪
♬一直回到70年代 ♪ All the way back in the seventies ♪
♬你曾是我的小电视女王 ♪ You were my little TV queen ♪
♬你的人猿泰山和你的朋友珍妮。♬我拥有你 ♪ Your Tarzan and your friend, Janine. I got you ♪
♬我有你，我仍然相信 ♪ I got you and I still believe ♪
♬你是我唯一的需要 ♪ That you're all I will ever need ♪
♬是你 ♪ It's you ♪
♬所有的♬ ♪ All ♪
♬(Jay吉他独奏)♬ ♪ (Jay guitar solo) ♪
♬这是一个世纪的结束 ♪ It's the end of the century ♪
♬我什么也想不起来了 ♪ And I can't think of anything ♪
♬除了你♬ ♪ Except you ♪
♬现在是世纪末了 ♪ Now it's the end of the century ♪
♬我什么也想不起来了 ♪ And I can't think of anything ♪
♬但你♬ ♪ But you ♪
♬所有，♬ ♪ All, ♪
♬我，♬ ♪ I, ♪
♬需要♬ ♪ Need ♪
(喝彩声) (crowd cheering)
♬我得到你了♬ ♪ I got you ♪
♬我拥有你，宝贝 ♪ I got you, babe ♪
♬哦♬ ♪ Ooh ♪
♬哦，哦 ♪ Ooh, ooh ♪
(杰夫尖叫) (Jeff screaming)
(喝彩声) (crowd cheering)
非常感谢。 Thanks a lot.
晚安。 Goodnight.
(轻音乐) (relaxing music)
(模糊聊天) (indistinct chatter)
-很高兴见到你，兄弟。 - Good to see you brother.
哇哇哇。 Aww.
-哇，哇，哇。 - Whoa, whoa, whoa.
等等，等等，等等。 Wait, wait, wait.
-他们不会让你们自己动手的。 - They won't let you just do it yourselves.
-部落吧，猪。 - Horde it, pig.
-偷乐队的披萨 - Stealing the band's pizza.
被抓了。 Aw, got busted.
对不起老兄。 Sorry dude.
酷吗，酷吗?有人有笔吗? Is it cool, is it cool? - Does anybody have a pen?
-[杰]是的。 - [Jay] Yeah.
-[女范]我没有东西要你签。 - [Female Fan] I don't have nothing for you to sign.
-有人在你屁股上签名(笑) - Someone sign your ass. (laughs)
我开玩笑的。 I was kidding.
-是的，我能做到。-你可以在我胸上签名。 - Yeah, I can do that. - You can sign my boobs.
想不想在我的胸上签名? Wanna sign my boobs or not?
-事实上，我会吗? - Um, actually, would I?
我不知道。 I don't know.
我们乐队里就有人这么干过。 Someone in our band did that once.
-你可以在我屁股上签名，因为我签过 - You can sign my ass 'cause I have
没有别的可签的了。——真的吗? nothing else to sign. - Really?
-如果你在她屁股上签名，你就得在我屁股上签名。 - If you sign her ass, you have to sign my ass.
-我的天啊-如果你在她屁股上签名 - Oh, my god. - And if you sign her ass,
你得在我屁股上签名。 you have to sign my ass.
-你可以在我胸前签名。-不，你在她屁股上签名… - You can sign my chest. - No, you sign her ass...
-吉米就是这样 - That's what Jimmy,
我们看到吉米在。-我们要 oh we saw Jimmy in the-- - Are we going to
照明阶段吗? lighting stage?
听起来检查吗? Sound check?
-昨晚电梯里的直筒夹克。(笑) - The straight jackets on the elevator last night. (laughs)
还记得那个人吗 Remember the guy who did--
-我的天啊-吉米·莱斯特的座谈? - Oh, oh my God. - Sat in from Jimmy Lester?
怎么啦？ What?
-对不起。我很抱歉。-说吧。 - I'm sorry. I'm sorry. - Go ahead.
-我昨天晚上遇到了芝麻街的鲍勃。 - I met Bob from Sesame Street yesterday, last night.
鲍勃吗?——哦。 Bob? - Oh.
-你知道鲍勃 - Do you know who Bob,
有人知道鲍勃是谁吗? does anybody know who Bob is?
-是的。-我不记得了 - Yeah. - I don't remember that.
-你怎么认识他的? - How'd you meet him?
-他在我们酒店 - He was in our hotel.
我们说话这会儿他正在做一个儿童节目。 He's doing a kid's show right now as we speak.
-天啊。-他说， - Oh, man. - He's like,
“是的，我知道了，大鸟明天要来。” "Yeah, I got, Big Bird's coming in tomorrow."
(约翰笑) (John laughing)
-我们说话这会儿杰就在那儿。 - There's Jay right now as we speak.
-所以，虽然已经开始了 - So also, although it's already been going,
但JP问我们能不能避开舞台 but JP asked if we could steer clear of the stage
一段时间。 for a little while.
(笑) (group laughs)
-直到试音结束? - Until sound check is over?
-直到杰完成 - Until Jay gets done.
-杰从早上六点就在这儿了吗? - Has Jay been here since like six in the morning?
-[音效师]2号，嘿，嘿。 - [Sound Checker] Two, hey, hey.
嘿，打扰一下。 Hey, excuse me.
-先生们，我们只有35分钟来做这些。 - Gentlemen, we have about 35 minutes to do all of this.
目标。 Target.
是的，我们要去格伦 Uh, yeah, we're going Glenn,
Jay Bennett，整个键盘界， we're gonna go Jay Bennett, entire keyboard world,
还有杰·班尼特的电动钻机，让他待在那里。 and Jay Bennett electric rig, keep him there.
杰之后，我们很快就会讲约翰尼，特威先生， After Jay, we'll do Johnny real quick, Mr. Tweedy,
让勒罗伊把他的世界搞清楚。 let Leroy get his world sussed out.
我们大概只有两首歌的时间。 We're only gonna have time to do about two songs.
——好的。 - Okay.
播放(鼓) (drums playing)
(周杰伦弹键盘) (Jay playing keyboard)
-检查，嘿，嘿，嘿 - Check, hey, hey, hey.
-是啊，拖延不起作用。 - Yeah, the delay's not working.
♬你要学会如何死去 ♪ You have to learn how to die ♪
如果你想要想要活着 ♪ If you want to want to be alive ♪
♬你必须死 ♪ You have to die ♪
♬你要学会如何死去 ♪ You have to learn how to die ♪
如果你想要想要活着 ♪ If you want to want to be alive ♪
(观众鼓掌) (crowd clapping)
(精力充沛的音乐) (energetic music)
♬我知道♬ ♪ I know ♪
♬我们不怎么说话 ♪ We don't talk much ♪
但你是如此的健谈，哦哇 ♪ But you're such a good talker, oh whoa ♪
♬我知道♬ ♪ I know ♪
♬你应该出去走走 ♪ You should take a walk ♪
♬但你走得真快，哦哇 ♪ But you're such a fast walker, oh whoa ♪
♬好吧 ♪ Well all right ♪
♬我知道今晚我会在哪里，好吗 ♪ I know where I'll be tonight, all right ♪
♪心不烦，眼不见 ♪ Out of mind, out of sight ♪
-不，是汤姆在介绍我。 - No, Tom's introducing me.
-好吧。-然后我就去找你。 - Oh, okay. - And then I'll go to you.
——好的。——好的。 - Okay. - Okay.
新专辑什么时候上市 When is the new album actually available
让人们出去买东西? for people to go out and buy?
-这是个好问题。 - That's a good question.
♬我知道你可能恨我 ♪ I know you probably hate me ♪
♬对我来说没关系 ♪ That's okay with me ♪
♬好吧♬ ♪ All right ♪
♬我知道我会在哪里 ♪ I know where I'll be ♪
-下午好，晚上好 - Good afternoon, good evening
祝大家独立日快乐。 and happy Independence Day, everyone.
有请美国最激动人心的 Please welcome one of America's most exciting
创新的乐队， and innovative bands,
照办! Wilco!
♬你现在看不到我了吗 ♪ You don't see me now ♪
♬你什么都不想要，♬ ♪ You don't want to any, ♪
♬怎样，怎样，怎样 ♪ How, how, how ♪
♬小心，我又来了 ♪ Look out, here I come again ♪
♬我会带上我的朋友们 ♪ And I'm bringing my friends ♪
♬我说小心 ♪ I said look out ♪
♬我又来了 ♪ Here I come again ♪
♬我要带上我的朋友 ♪ I'm bringing my friends ♪
♬好吧，我说好的 ♪ Okay I said alright ♪
♬我知道今晚我会在哪里，好吗 ♪ I know where I'll be tonight, all right ♪
♪心不烦，眼不见 ♪ Out of mind, out of sight ♪
表达一些感激之情吧! Show some gratitude!
(喝彩声) (crowd cheering)
-[采访者]我们来谈谈杰吧。 - [Interviewer] Well, let's talk about Jay.
-[杰夫]好吧，我可能没什么好说的了。 - [Jeff] All right, I probably won't have much to say.
——好的。-只是警告你。 - Okay. - Just warning you.
-好吧，这是我听到的理解 - Okay, it's my understanding from what I heard
小道消息说， in the grapevine that,
那是一种和平的分离，而且… that was sort of an amicable separation, and, um...
我不知道这是不是真的， And I don't know that this is true,
但是传闻说他并没有感觉到 but the hearsay is sort of that he didn't feel
他在歌曲创作中也扮演了重要的角色 that he had as much a role in the songwriting
就像他想要的那样，或者…… as he wanted to have, or...
-我认为这是有道理的 - I think that there's some truth to that,
而且我认为这是一种友好的努力。 and I think there's an effort made for it to be amicable.
-自从杰夫的个人巡演和格伦加入乐队， - Since Jeff's solo tour and Glenn joining the band,
乐队里的一些动态发生了变化 some dynamics in the band had altered
以许多不同的方式。 in many different ways.
-我认为Jay对乐队的贡献 - I think Jay's contribution to the band over time,
我们的合作非常重要 and our collaboration, was important
在乐队里很有价值。 and was valued in the band.
至于他离开的情况， As for the circumstances surrounding him leaving,
我觉得这得由杰来定义， I really think that that's up to Jay to define,
至于，呃， and as far as, uh,
我对它的感觉 my, uh, feelings about it,
我再高兴不过了。 I couldn't be happier.
-杰夫确信他真的需要 - Jeff was convinced that he really needed
直接告诉杰伊，他也需要这么做 to tell Jay directly, and he needed to be
这个人来做这件事。 the guy to do it.
-我们坐下了。 - We sat down.
他说:“我觉得我不会做音乐 He said, "I don't think I can make music
“和你在一起了。” "with you anymore,"
我说:“为什么?” and I said, Why?"
,嗯… And, uh...
我不确定我得到过一个有意义的答案。 I'm not sure I ever got an answer that made any sense.
-杰伊已经不受欢迎了 - Jay wore out his welcome
在很多方面。 in a lot of ways.
-和别人一起工作很难 - It's hard to be working with somebody,
哦, uh,
你无法满足他的需求， that needs more than you can give him,
你知道，我对演奏音乐更感兴趣 and, you know, I'm more interested in playing music
和我可以分享的人 with people that I can share with
而不是给予。 than give things to.
-杰夫被我威胁了 - Jeff was threatened by me.
很明显。 It's clear.
我开始受到关注，嗯…… By the attention I was beginning to get, um...
嗯… Uh...
他想要回乐队，很简单。 He wanted the band back, that's simple.
你知道，这是一个简单的答案。 That's the simple answer, you know.
杰夫打了一个很长的比方 Jeff went into this big long analogy
一个圆需要一个圆心，你知道吗? about how a circle needs a center, you know?
他本来是中心的，对吧? Well, he was gonna be the center, right?
我不会成为中心。 I wasn't gonna be the center.
-这对我来说很难开口。 - It's hard for me to talk about.
我是说，我认识杰16年了， Um, I mean, I've known Jay for (tongue clicks) 16 years,
17年? 17 years?
而且, And,
我们的友谊，呃… our friendship had, uh...
顺其自然。 Run its course.
威尔科有很多权力相关的问题 - There's a lot of power related issues in Wilco,
人们会， and people are,
他们可不想丢了饭碗。 they don't wanna lost their gig, man.
所以他们不想走出他们的小，呃… And so they don't wanna step outside of their little, uh...
有剧本的角色，因为如果他们这样做，就会发生这样的事。 Scripted role 'cause if they do, this is what happens.
-我想我们都知道每个人都会更快乐 - I think we all knew everyone would be happier
我想杰伊会完全同意的。 in the end, and I think Jay would totally agree with that.
——被问到这个问题，我一点也不吃惊 - It did not come as a total shock to me to be asked
离开威尔科。 to leave Wilco.
它一直在我的脑海里。 It had been in the back of my mind.
事实上，我已经和Leroy广泛地讨论过这个问题， In fact, I'd talked to Leroy about this extensively,
用我自己的话来说， that to quote myself,
“我在威尔科的日子不多了。” "My days in Wilco are numbered."
我曾经非常、非常、认真地考虑过 I had thought very, very, seriously
关于离开乐队的事。 about leaving the band.
我只是碰巧被打败了。 I just happened to be beaten to the punch.
-当你是杰·班尼特或者其他什么人离开乐队的时候 - When you're Jay Bennett or whomever and you leave the band
你得重新开始。 you have to kind of start over.
你会回到为35人或100人演奏的时代 You're going back to playing for 35 people or 100 people
或者从座无虚席的电影院。 or whatever from sold-out theaters.
♬所以现在就睡吧 ♪ So sleep now ♪
♬我亲爱的♬ ♪ My darling ♪
♬我会把所有的噩梦都赶走 ♪ And I'll keep all the bad dreams away ♪
♬现在就呼吸，轻松地呼吸 ♪ And breathe now, breathe easy ♪
♬我会说所有该说的话 ♪ And I will say all the right things to say ♪
因为是我们创造了你，亲爱的 ♪ Because we made you, my darling ♪
从我们心中的爱 ♪ From the love that was in our hearts ♪
♬我们曾经是一家人 ♪ We were a family ♪
♬我亲爱的♬ ♪ My darling ♪
♬从头开始 ♪ Right from the start ♪
♬快快长大吧 ♪ Grow up now ♪
♬我亲爱的♬ ♪ My darling ♪
♬只是不要那么快长大 ♪ Just don't grow up so fast ♪
♬小心点♬ ♪ Be careful ♪
♬我亲爱的♬ ♪ My darling ♪
让所有的美好时光持续下去 ♪ To make all the good times last ♪
-[托尼]他们录制了一张很棒的唱片， - [Tony] They delivered a great record,
我觉得是唱片公司 and I think it's the record company that,
不管出于什么原因， for whatever reason,
不能接受那种伟大的唱片，如此美妙 can't handle that type of great record, and so fantastic
我们去做点别的吧。 let's go do something else.
-我不知道怎么做，除了 - I don't know how to make something other than
我们录制的唱片，还有 the record we made, and
我认为…… I think to...
招待他们中的任何一个 Entertain any of their half-ass,
可怕的, fearful,
害怕 frightened
扯淡就是妥协 bullshit would be to compromise
这是我灵魂中很重要的一部分。 something that is a big part of my soul.
(笑)你知道吗? (laughs) You know?
就像它是我心脏的一部分。 Like it's a part of my heart.
我也没兴趣再做这些了。 And I don't have any interest in doing that anymore.
-我认为这是一个非常非常非常好的记录。 - I think it's a really, really, really strong record.
我认为这是一种声明， I think it's a statement,
我认为这是他们现在做出的正确记录 I think it's the right record for them to make now
在他们的职业生涯中， in their career,
我想有几十个标签 and I think there are dozens of labels
拥有它会让人欣喜若狂， that would be ecstatic to have it and who,
如果你送出这张唱片 if you delivered this record,
会给你打电话，很兴奋。 would call you up and be excited about it.
这是所有。这就是我厌倦的，没有热情。 That's all. That's what I'm tired of, is no enthusiasm.
为什么威尔科被解雇了 Why is Wilco dropped
交货后24小时 24 hours after they deliver
像Yankee Hotel Foxtrot这样的唱片? a record like Yankee Hotel Foxtrot?
嗯… Um...
我是说，我们考虑过这个问题 I mean, we've contemplated that question
整个夏天， at great length over the summer,
最后，我觉得托尼和我都有点 and in the end, I think Tony and I both just sort of
举起我们的手说， put our hands up and said,
“嗯，我想我们很高兴它刚刚发生了， "Well, I guess we're glad that it just happened,
“我们不会再试图把它过度理智化，” "and we won't try to over-intellectualize it any further,"
但我真的觉得回顾过去 but I really think looking back on it,
这是因为市场营销， it's because of marketing,
因为你有杰夫·特威迪这样的艺术家 and it's because you have an artist like Jeff Tweedy
谁会连续发行四五张唱片 who's put out, you know, four or five records in a row
有了唱片公司， with a record company,
他们还没能把销售额提高到一定水平 and they haven't been able to bring sales up to a level
影响最大的地方是哪里 where it's really significantly affecting
他们的底线。 their bottom line.
我想，他们已经不再考虑这个问题了 They, I guess, stopped thinking about it
从纯粹的艺术层面来说， from a pure artistic level, and just say,
“我们在这家伙身上赚不到钱。” "We don't make money on this guy,"
然后他发布了一张唱片，不管出于什么原因， and then he delivers a record which, for whatever reasons,
他们认为很难 they evaluate as being difficult to
将公众吸引力提升到一个新的水平。 raise to the next level of public appeal.
所以他们说，“好吧，我们不会这么做的，” So they say, "Well, okay, we're not going to,"
我想用一个短语来说，“把好钱花在坏钱上。” I guess to use a phrase, "Throw good money after bad.
“我们花了20万美元录制这张唱片， "We've spent $200,000 recording this record,
"但我们得再花30万美元 "but it's gonna cost us another $300,000
之类的东西来为它发起营销活动， "or whatever to launch a marketing campaign for it,
“我们觉得我们的钱赚不回来了。” "and we just don't think we're gonna make our money back."
所以，他们放弃了艺术家。 So, they drop the artist.
这当然给我们制造了一个局面 This of course creates a situation for us
我们有一张完成的唱片，我们想把它发布出去。 where we have a finished record, and we wanna put it out.
-扬基酒店的狐步舞变成了 - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot has actually turned into
一种隐喻。 a kind of metaphor.
它现在是衡量唱片公司， It's now a measure of what record companies,
甚至没有那么多唱片公司， or not even so much record companies,
但是那些拥有唱片公司的公司， but the corporations that own record companies,
都愿意忍受。 are willing to put up with.
-最终，它归结为 - Ultimately, what it came down to
他们告诉杰夫·特威迪 was they had told Jeff Tweedy,
"我们不喜欢你的专辑，我们不想发行它" "We don't like your album, we don't wanna release it."
-到最后，你知道，这并不重要 - In the end, you know, it doesn't really matter
谁来发行唱片。 who puts the record out.
最终，要么在不久的将来 Eventually, either in the near future
或者在遥远的未来，有人会得到它。 or in the way far distant future, someone's gonna get it.
只要有音乐， As long as music is available,
会有人听到的。 someone will hear it.
-唱片公司肯定发现了什么 - The record label must have found it to be something
一个公共关系问题 of a public relations problem
因为所有的， because of all of the,
新闻界确实抓住了形势不放 the press really latched on to the situation
作为一种…… as something of a...
把杰夫当模范来做什么 Using Jeff something as a poster boy as to what
很多唱片公司都出现了问题 problems were going on in a lot of record companies
尤其是华纳兄弟 and in particular Warner Brothers
有了他们的艺人名单， with their artist rosters,
他们不希望事态进一步恶化， and they didn't want it to blow up any further than it did,
所以他们， so they, um,
经过一定量的 after a certain amount of
忧心忡忡的对话, anxiety-ridden conversations,
他说:“我们认为正确的做法是 said, "We think the right thing to do is
“让你把你的记录带到别的地方， "let you take your record somewhere else,
“随便你。” "wherever you like."
-每次我们出唱片 - Every time we put out a record,
时间的长短 the length of time
唱片公司居然愿意迁就你 that a record company's willing to actually even humor you
关于你的工作记录越来越短了。 about working on your record has gotten shorter.
-音乐不局限于发生的事情 - Music is not limited to what happens
在一个商业季度，而且…… in a business quarter, and...
你知道的, You know,
这 this
是一个记录，好吗? is a record, okay?
这个东西可能会有人买， This is something that probably someone will buy,
他们会付15到16美元， they'll pay 15, 16 whatever bucks for it,
这很酷，但是， and that's cool but,
这个东西底部某个地方编码的东西， what's encoded somewhere in the bottom of this thing,
这个傻乎乎的小磁盘， this dopey little disk, you know,
这才是最重要的。 that's what matters.
这个，这个人工制品，实际的物体没有。 This, the artifact, the actual object does not.
这里编码的东西，如果有用的话， What's encoded in here, if it's any good,
你会听到的。 you'll hear it.
你要么得到，要么得不到。 And you'll either get it, or you won't.
而且, And,
就像, just as,
作为一个作家， as a writer,
作为一个歌迷，作为一个经常听音乐的人， as a fan, as a guy who just listens to music a lot,
如果你不明白，那就太糟糕了。 if you don't get it, I just think that's kinda too bad.
(轻音乐) (light music)
♬有一本杂志叫《日落》 ♪ There's a magazine called Sunset ♪
而一台磁带机却不让 ♪ And a tape machine that won't let ♪
♬我永远不会忘记对你这无法实现的思念。♪ ♪ Me ever forget this impossible longing for you. ♪
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot现在已经完成了 - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot has been finished now
大约六个月。 for about six months.
乐队做了一些巡回演出。 The band have done a little bit of touring.
有消息说乐队退出了交易， Word got out that the band were out of their deal,
我们开始接到很多电话， and we started getting a lot of calls,
基本上我们开始和人们交谈。 and basically we started talking to people.
我想我们要处理的是 I think we were dealing with
一开始大概有25到30个厂牌， about 25 or 30 labels initially,
然后随着时间的流逝， and then as time passed,
我们一直在缩减名单， we have been whittling the list down,
我们现在正在和， and we're now talking to,
五岁左右， five or so,
希望能在未来一两周内解决这个问题。 and hope to have that resolved in the next week or two.
-我没有钱。 - I don't have any money.
-别担心。 - Don't worry.
哦，我只有6美元。 Oh, I only have six dollars.
你想吃点什么吗，萨米? You want something to eat, Sammy?
——是的。 - Yes.
我想吃点东西。 I want something to eat.
-你想要什么? - What do you want?
-要苏打水! - Want soda!
——苏打水吗?亲爱的，我的钱不够。 - Soda? Honey, I don't have enough money.
-我去拿些钱。 - I'll go get some money.
-在我最疯狂的时候， - Never in my wildest,
最乐观的时刻 most optimistic moment
我想过我们会坐在这里吗 did I think that we'd be sitting here
在我们现在的处境下 in the position we're in right now
哪个是有完成记录的 which is with a finished record
那。 that
是我们想带去哪里就带去哪里的。 is ours to take wherever we want.
你当然可以说他们搞砸了 You could certainly say that they fucked up
放了乐队，带着唱片走人。 by letting the band go and walk away with the record.
这真的是一个可能会出现的机会 It's really an opportunity that maybe comes along
一生只有一次。 once in a career.
-抓娃娃机骗了他。 - The claw machine ripped him off.
不,这…… No, it...
它自己走了。 It went by itself.
-托尼闻山姆的屁股。 - Tony smell Sam's butt.
-不了，谢谢。 - No, thanks.
-我得知道他需不需要换尿布。 - I need to know if he needs a diaper.
-我想他知道。(笑) - I think he does. (laughs)
——唱片公司的数量让我很吃惊 - I was surprised at the number of record companies
他们愿意出一大笔钱 that were willing to pay a large amount of money
成为威尔科家族的一员 to be sort of in the Wilco picture.
(手拍) (hands patting)
-认出来了? - Recognize it?
-是吗? - Was is it?
-我猜，这是你的歌。 - Guess, it's one of your songs.
-这是我的歌? - It's one of my songs?
我想让你心碎? I'm Trying To Break Your Heart?
——没有。-我需要一台摄像机? - No. - Uh, I Need A Kamera?
——没有。——梦中的梦想家? - No. - Dreamer In My Dreams?
——没有。 - No.
(手拍) (hands patting)
——不是吗? - No?
赌场女王?-呃，呃。 Casino Queen? - Uh, uh.
-加州之星?——没有。 - California Stars? - No.
-告诉我。 - Tell me.
-里面有鼓的东西。 - It's something with a drum in it.
-重金属鼓手。 - Heavy Metal Drummer.
——是的。 - Yes.
-怎么样? - How's that go?
(手拍) (hands patting)
♬我真的很想念那些重金属乐队 ♪ I sincerely miss those heavy metal bands ♪
♬我曾经在夏天去看楼梯口♬ ♪ I used to go see on the landing in the summer ♪
♬她爱上了那个鼓手 ♪ She fell in love with the drummer ♪
♬她坠入爱河了 ♪ She fell in love ♪
闪亮的，闪亮的裤子和漂白的金发 ♪ Shiny, shiny pants and bleached blonde hair ♪
♬夏天河边的双鼓 ♪ A double kick drum by the river in the summer ♪
♬她爱上了那个鼓手 ♪ She fell in love with the drummer ♪
♬一个又一个♬ ♪ Another and another ♪
♬她坠入爱河了 ♪ She fell in love ♪
♬我怀念曾经的纯真 ♪ I miss the innocence I've known ♪
♬演奏吻的封面，漂亮又飘飘然 ♪ Playing Kiss covers, beautiful and stoned ♪
放开我的身体，让自己舞动起来 ♪ Unlock my body and move myself to dance ♪
♬在温暖的液体里，飘着吹玻璃 ♪ In the warm liquid, flowing blowing glass ♪
♬古典音乐的轰鸣掩盖了我耳边的铃声 ♪ Classical music blasting masks the ringing in my ears ♪
-唱片开始有点漏水了 - The record had started to leak a little bit
从标签等等， from labels and so on,
副本开始四处流传， and copies were starting to float around and,
一开始我们试图 initially we tried to
慢慢来。 slow it down.
我们知道我们无法阻止它 We knew we couldn't stop it,
然后在某个时刻，我想我们决定， and then at some point, I think we just decided,
“你知道吗?它就在那里。 "You know what? It's out there.
“让我们拥抱它，让它可用 "Let's embrace it and make it available
“如果人们想听，可以通过我们的网站。” "through our website if people wanna hear it."
-在很大程度上，很多人都意识到了 - For the most part, a lot of people were really aware
我觉得很多人都很喜欢新歌 of the new songs to the point where I think a lot of people
至少前排的人知道所有的单词。 in the front row, at least, knew all the words.
♬演奏吻的封面，漂亮又飘飘然 ♪ Playing Kiss covers, beautiful and stoned ♪
♬我怀念曾经的纯真 ♪ I miss the innocence I've known ♪
♬演奏吻的封面，漂亮又飘飘然 ♪ Playing Kiss covers, beautiful and stoned ♪
♬呜-呼，呜-呼 ♪ Woo-Hoo, Woo-Hoo ♪
♬呜-呼，嘿 ♪ Woo-Hoo, hey ♪
♬呜-呼，呜-呼 ♪ Woo-Hoo, Woo-Hoo ♪
♬呜-呼，嘿 ♪ Woo-Hoo, hey ♪
——之后, - After,
个月的 months of
讨论和反思， discussions and ruminations,
我们决定签字， we have decided to sign,
乐队要给nonessuch唱片公司演唱。 the band's gonna sing to Nonesuch Records.
主要条款我们都同意了，所以 We've agreed to all the major terms, so
这张唱片将于四月在nonessuch发行。 the record will come out on Nonesuch in April.
我确实觉得这很讽刺 I do find it ironic
还有一点幽默 and a little humorous
时代华纳是母公司 that Time Warner is the parent company
在这两个标签中， of both of these labels,
重复和不重复。 Reprise and Nonesuch.
-你是杰夫吗?-是的。 - Are you Jeff? - Yeah.
-很高兴认识你。-你也是。 - Nice to meet you. - You, too.
——[Josh]选择nonessuch的原因之一 - [Josh] One way to put the reason for picking Nonesuch
他们是最好的组合吗 is that they were the best combination
一笔生意和一个富有创意的家。 of a business deal and a creative home.
-在听录音时，在前30秒， - In hearing the record, in the first 30 seconds,
我感觉有些事情发生了 I felt that there was something going on
这张我没听过的唱片 with this record that I hadn't heard
在威尔科唱片里，那就是 in a Wilco record before, and that was,
对我来说，这听起来很勇敢。 it sounded brave to me.
也许就是这30秒说服了Reprise It may have been the same 30 seconds that convinced Reprise
他们不想发行这张唱片。 that they didn't wanna put out the record.
(页面翻转) (pages flipping)
- [Josh]好了，你准备好开始签名了吗? - [Josh] Okay, you ready to start signing things?
——嗯。 - Mmhmm.
是的，看起来不错。 Yeah, looks good.
-(笑)等一下。 - (laughs) Hold on.
- [Josh]再来一个。 - [Josh] One more, yup.
这是为了得到报酬。 This is to get paid.
-一定要签那个。 - Definitely sign that one.
-好的，我在这里签名。 - Okay, and I sign here.
-你在这里签名。 - You sign there.
你又回到了火堆里。 And you're back in the fire.
——谢谢。 - Thanks.
-一言为定。 - It's a deal.
(播放吉他) (guitar playing)
♬别那么紧张 ♪ Be not so nervous ♪
♬别那么苍白 ♪ Be not so pale ♪
♬有人在看着你 ♪ Someone watches you ♪
♬你不会失败的 ♪ You will not fail ♪
♬别那么紧张，别那么苍白 ♪ Be not so nervous, be not so pale ♪
♬不要为你所做的事感到抱歉 ♪ Be not so sorry for what you've done ♪
♬你现在必须忘记他们，一切都结束了 ♪ You must forget them now, it's done ♪
♬当你醒来的时候 ♪ And when you wake up ♪
♬你会发现你可以跑 ♪ You will find that you can run ♪
-[托尼]我们还有两个月的时间 - [Tony] We're about two months away
从即将出来的唱片中。 from the record coming out.
进步就在这里。 Advances are here.
杰夫在城里做媒体采访，他下周要去欧洲 Jeff is in town doing press, he goes to Europe next week
做新闻，一切从现在开始。 to do press, it all begins now.
不要那么害怕，不要那么脆弱 ♪ Be not so fearful, be not so frail ♪
♬有人在看着你 ♪ Someone watches you ♪
♬你不会离开铁轨的 ♪ You will not leave the rails ♪
- [David画外音]我们多久了，快8、9个月了 - [David voiceover] What are we, almost eight or nine months
因为这张唱片本来是计划发行的 since the record was originally planned to come out
在另一个标签上? on another label?
这是一条漫长的道路，但这只是开始。 It's been a long road, but it's the beginning.
不要那么害怕，不要那么苍白 ♪ Be not so fearful, be not so pale ♪
♬不要为你所做的事感到抱歉 ♪ Be not so sorry for what you've done ♪
♬你现在必须忘记他们，一切都结束了 ♪ You must forget them now, it's done ♪
-我们太兴奋了 - [David] We couldn't be more excited
关于长期的发展前景 about the longterm prospects of being able
和这个乐队一起工作。 to work with this band.
♬你会发现你可以跑 ♪ You will find that you can run ♪
♬不要为你所做的事感到抱歉 ♪ Be not so sorry for what you've done ♪
-这是一条漫长的道路，但你知道， - It's a long road to here, but you know,
现在是新的篇章了，我们， it's a new chapter now, and we're,
不能再乐观了。 couldn't be more optimistic.
播放(鼓) (drums playing)
(喝彩声) (crowd cheering)
啾啾查理有一个很好的乐队 Choo-Choo Charlie had a plenty good band
但他不明白为什么没有人愿意去 ♪ But he couldn't understand why no one would go ♪
♬世界唱片演奏家在日本巡演♬ ♪ The World Record Players on a tour of Japan ♪
♬查理在用左臂修理他的货车♬ ♪ Charlie's fixing his van with a left arm tan ♪
♬他说，♬ ♪ He said, ♪
♬星期一，我很高兴♬ ♪ Monday, I'm all high ♪
♬把我从佛罗里达救出来吧 ♪ Get me out of FLA ♪
♬在学校，是的 ♪ In school, yeah ♪
♬我骗了你♬ ♪ I fooled ya ♪
♬现在我知道我犯了一个错误 ♪ Now I know I made a mistake ♪
♬高速公路上的水泡，让我过去吧 ♪ Blister on a turnpike, let me by ♪
♬我只想知道为什么，当我没有死的时候 ♪ I only want to wonder why when I don't die ♪
♬哦，我射中了你，是的，我知道 ♪ Ooh, I shot you, yeah, I know ♪
♬我只想去我的车轮滚动的地方 ♪ I only want to go where my wheels roll ♪
♬星期一，我很高兴♬ ♪ Monday, I'm all high ♪
♬放我出去吧，FLA ♪ Get me out FLA ♪
♬我在学校骗过你，耶 ♪ I fooled ya in school, yeah ♪
♬现在我知道我犯了一个错误 ♪ Now I know I made a mistake ♪
(欢快的摇滚音乐) (upbeat rock music)
(杰夫吹口哨) (Jeff whistling)
每个人都想知道他去了哪里 ♪ Everybody's wondering where'd he go ♪
♬他一定在彭萨科拉躲在雪地里 ♪ He must be down in Pensacola hiding from the snow ♪
♬世界唱片演奏家在日本巡演♬ ♪ The World Record Players on a tour of Japan ♪
♬查理在修理他的货车 ♪ Charlie's fixin' his van ♪
♬他在等一张明信片 ♪ He's waiting for a postcard ♪
♬他说♬ ♪ And he said ♪
♬星期一，我很高兴♬ ♪ Monday, I'm all high ♪
♬把我从佛罗里达救出来吧 ♪ Get me out of FLA ♪
♬嗯，我逃课了 ♪ Well, I cut class ♪
♬在学校，是的 ♪ In school, yeah ♪
♬现在我知道我犯了一个错误 ♪ Now I know I made a mistake ♪
我犯了一个大错误 I made a big mistake
(杰夫尖叫) (Jeff screaming)
♬好吧♬ ♪ All right ♪
(喝彩声) (crowd cheering)
-[托尼]真是妙不可言。 - [Tony] That's the coup,
这对我们来说简直是天赐良机。 that's like the coup of all time for us.
基本上，你知道， To basically get, you know,
世界上最大的娱乐公司之一 one of the biggest entertainment corporations in the world
解除我们的合同，基本上不受惩罚 to release us from a contract, essentially scot-free
而且他们已经付过钱了 with a record that they had already paid for
然后再以三倍的价格卖给他们。 and then sell it back to them for three times the money.
他们非常不喜欢这张唱片，所以付了钱 They disliked the record so much that they paid
两次。(笑) for it twice. (laughs)
-[画外音]屏住呼吸 - [Voiceover] Hold your breath,
许个愿，数到三。 make a wish, count to three.
♪跟我来，你就会♪ ♪ Come with me, and you'll be ♪
在一个纯粹想象的世界里 ♪ In a world of pure imagination ♪
♬看一看，你就会明白 ♪ Take a look, and you'll see ♪
♬进入你的想象♬ ♪ Into your imagination ♪
♬我们从旋转开始 ♪ We'll begin with a spin ♪
♬在我创造的世界里旅行 ♪ Traveling in the world of my creation ♪
♬我们将要看到的将会反抗♬ ♪ What we'll see will defy ♪
♬解释♬ ♪ Explanation ♪
如果你想看天堂 ♪ If you want to view paradise ♪
♬只需环顾四周并查看它 ♪ Simply look around and view it ♪
♬想做什么就去做吧 ♪ Anything you want to, do it ♪
♬想改变世界♬ ♪ Want to change the world ♪
♬没什么难的 ♪ There's nothing to it ♪
(轻音乐) (light music)
♬没有我懂的生活 ♪ There is no life I know ♪
与单纯的想象相比 ♪ To compare with pure imagination ♪
♬住在那里你会很自由 ♪ Living there you'll be free ♪
如果你真的想成为 ♪ If you truly wish to be ♪
如果你想看天堂 ♪ If you want to view paradise ♪
♬只需环顾四周并查看它 ♪ Simply look around and view it ♪
♬想做什么就去做吧 ♪ Anything you want to, do it ♪
♬想改变世界♬ ♪ Want to change the world ♪
♬什么都没有 ♪ There's nothing ♪
♬对它♬ ♪ To it ♪
♬没有我懂的生活 ♪ There is no life I know ♪
与单纯的想象相比 ♪ To compare with pure imagination ♪
♬住在那里♬ ♪ Living there ♪
♬你会自由的 ♪ You'll be free ♪
如果你真的 ♪ If you truly ♪
♬希望♬ ♪ Wish ♪
♬成为♬ ♪ To be ♪