and their their complaint was that's sir it it works but
you have to like keep an eye on and make sure that it doesn't like mess up and
these things are
designs that they feel in the ass to get means every couple months and yet to pay
ten grand to get them
has done answer the huge demand for like you know things that just work and that
are easy to fix yourself kinda thing
anode love to see this thing just do that I own one as well I'm in the
process of assembling at
come on over to
try and help me a but I'll definitely be able to assemble this robot long before
I'm able to execute %uh a lab protocol
by hand myself %uh without significant help from Kevin for example
I'm there's a there's other hardware projects
as well yet this is a bio printer I which is basically an inkjet printer
that
was hacked to Prince I you know biological media
I was very yet you I am just
bacterial cells and so this is from by a curious which is a
I'm you i buy was facing ten San Francisco and
this is really cool cuz I E recently found another project at Duke University
in this is the cure the academic one
I am and they were using a printer that could print on the CDs
so you base their place a CD with a go you know
petri dish and then you would be able to Prince and yourself that way
so and I was completely independent they had no idea that this is this its allies
talk with them the right to cancel amazing yeah
I think you know one of the ultimate goals a
these ideas a bio printers om is
not so so this was like a 2d printed printed text
on an agar plate and anger is just food for bacteria on but you know the
ultimate goal of this kind of technology
is to print 3d structures so for example print
a liver print heart print the
a leg bone or something like that home I mean only people like Steve Jobs can get
liver transplants in time
to survive you know terrible diseases
a man if we could bill
livers and hearts for people that would be fantastic your
yes
years but those those aren't like a organs like it like that like a liver
has to function but yeah exactly where were we're working towards that and I
think that
and another cool thing with the printing aspect is that you know you can just
print text like in this
this picture or you know if you had to use you can imagine the guys or to
grid love conditions weird you to scream like a drugs like
it again you know how to printer which cost like 50 bucks
to do this high throughput rate experiment that Sage that's huge
%um Victor discoveries the drop like two hundred million dollars in doing
hunting so yeah very in when you think about it
you know medicine my dad taught tells me don't call it drugs
when you're talking to people as it sounds that sucks medicine
arm but you know early you know
medicine and the drug industry is important because that's having a lot of
our life-saving
medicine but medicine has been around a lot longer than
then the industrial complex a lot longer than big drug companies
and people regular people have been discovering medicine from long long time
ago
and I don't see any reason why %ah you know things could change again where we
take back
medical research in regards to medicine or things back into you that the
citizenry where
a lot more people are involved we can get potentially life-saving medicine
faster cheaper
better quality or whenever so I'm just just think about that xanada canada
and great hit
I am yes so I was thinking of
the on the rate but zombies for their therefore spaces
going on right now ideal this one is by a space
and and that's in Victoria BC I am
and Mercer ID it there is a universe the
shared space now so the public place is set up in their their spending
i dooo Vancouver is and
also dairy they're doing their the course of things like powered space they
will have licked their own dedicated space yet
but there you know gabled Maker Faires and things like that I'm
and then pick a BIOS probably the newest one and we're also can have some later
TI doubtfire Vancouver
but cool product that's that they're working on now is
doing microfluidics %uh fermentation so you know
you'd have you make off with device and then you do your fermentation action and
then you have a good rapport
beers like that an which is hilarious
a.m. so is does that mean that we can expect in five or six years that
iPhone 8 will be able to squeeze it and beer
will drop it yeah that more
pure grain alcohol their medicine at I'd buy it
and am and then do you know you know peeling or more about us writer
yes %uh there's also doin by a Toronto which is unique in Canada
on in that you know they have been orphaned they haven't had a space
caller on the been working out have om a hack space they're called pack lab .to
and because toronto is Canada's largest city
people there you know words spread pretty fast so to put in context like
by a space Victoria Dr Vancouver become by Montreal
have a vote 30 or 40 members
hour's delay about ron has about 300 members
which is really exciting and and there's a a process now to you
try and find these people a real home so they can get those numbers and start
putting them to you
work and do cool things arm and maybe you know
do something cool on
says being a the Inc for a printer
I am this is a protective group called lot yes
and their inner Paris I and they basically this is like in not
9 genetically-engineered thing at all it's just a bacteria that can
and you know produce this blue Inc pounds so now they're
building this up in the gonna do it release everything I think there this
year
I where they'll basically sell this open
bacteria and shares mission you know BD this kit we can grow a bunch of
thinking pretty independent requisite stuff so serrie
so that I D is happening then with growing groaning yeah exactly so you
know
this right now is that he's just mostly pens but you know how long it was a
mistake in the pictures and then
for japan's like it's like i mean as as we said if printer ink is so expensive
it seems like there's a market there
for somebody to say okay well I'm gonna growing
at pennies for unit
and sell it I don't know half the price a printer ink and still make a killing
that sounds like a reasonable thing that could happen area
heard it here first
and just to mention another product that north or 45 this is
from 10 space which is your new york and so
this is a a targets and then she went to last st some teeny barcoding
I'm which is essentially you
fun looking you're looking for by
listening idea its it's it's like a fingerprinting so
year by you every organism has unique DNA
my teen is different from that arose oMG thats
because the genetic code tells my body had a groan when you think about it
arose in the human are made it have generally the same
materials a lotta Carbonneau water water sugars
assaults various minerals and whatnot but the DNA is a program that tells our
cellular machinery how to
configure itself itself replicating self growing machine
and I'm it's interesting because you know there's been some stories where you
go to a fancy restaurant and they're selling you
I don't know some super expensive rare
turtle or something like that for dinner and I
and and you like a law is this really that rare turtle
and paying to earn dollars for this a.m. I getting my money's worth
and it's possible using DNA barcoding to take a little
a sample love that turtle
and put it through a process where you extract the DNA user
another process called PCR and women before police in reaction
to ample fight the amount of diesel the other an amount in it that you can
actually do some
some now Sasan and then what you do is you %um
ago DNA chromatograph it's like you you do process where at the end of it you
had a picture
up the DNA where it's like shows you these little latter
and you can be easily compare that the same way that a a person
forensic officer comparing IOM fingerprints with overlap the two
arm and you do this with this DNA graph and if
there
if they match really well then okay yeah that's the girl they don't match
then you can go back to that restaurant and say listen you guys are ripping
people off on a call a newspaper
arm and people have actually been doing this there's a story a while ago of
some retesting fish and it turned out that the fish was in
like tons of fish the people by restaurants is the fish that they tell
you this
his people can really tell on select like it. fish now because these people
can tell the difference summer league and the you know stuff like is this
really like you know be four scores kinda thing is some
there's interested in these you know your stories and so the other
same idea except you going to the wildlife and taking his bar codes and
then locking them so you know what's our lives there
compared between different places and so it but we have here is um
I think that a a few things that were involved in so it's Simba is um
it some tools and get into but what's really exciting is
this thing called the lease in factory and it is
a wet where product a wet where kit so
your computer's our hardware and hardware and software
well if we continue in in into talk and
you know computing terms in it. terms in in biotech well then there's
wet where recall where it's actually wet there's liquids in there
and this is a this is a really interesting product that's come out it's
a
through a a partnership with genomic on and symbiotic
and I'm here with sinbad as I'm work with them I'm
up but what it is its a up its
its I guess you think a bit like an Arduino for biotech in that
is a like an R&D platform that is extensible that you can build up
custom organisms custom microbes that will do things for you
and this one is a kit that comes with everything you need all these DNA parts
and an assembly protocol
that allows you to create a micro but I P E coli that produces a product called
view leeson
and anyone heard of the lease in before yet gotten
no one knows about this probably one of the reasons no one knows about it is no
one talks about it in reason on talks about it
because it cost $350 million dollars per kilo
and it's sold by a company called sigma-aldrich
and I its purchased by researchers
oMG who are working trying to find Oct
cheers therapies for cancer and so this
is a it's not a drug it's not a mess in its research compound
that is on into the process of figuring okays is something that we can use for
for cancer therapeutics but the problem is researchers
it's very difficult for them to get their hands on it is just so darn
expensive
and so so what we did at Sinbad and the genomic on we decided to take their wet
where cat platform
called the genomic on kit which they originally had
that allows you to create hi these these pictures that we should before very
similar to this where
you can have your hello world in program your E-coli to express different
proteins that are different colors
we thought okay well that's cool but what's the next step our people building
modules like Arduino shields for this product
and they said no knowns and the same okay well we want to build the first one
and you want to do this delay something
and so what we've done is created this kit %uh
it sells for for 550 bucks
Canadian arm and we've sold about 20 of them I
to YouTube people and stayed stable in Canada
people in Europe arm and what they're doing is they are building this kit
because its modular they are putting the kit together in unique ways to see
if they can come up with that the design that produces the most
velly since so to get the most bang for your buck added this product
and there was a student I maybe I can
I can find it here there's a student from Canada name
a hundred system and he bought one of these kids he's a grad student
working biology and his PI
Adam working on a project that he was a super keen on but he
he got when this product he bought it let's see if I can find here
treason samples and he built the kit
a multiple times in changing the the design of the DNA
here and he actually came up with the design
I that was very very good I'm and he so this is
this is his basically his lab book that he's made open to the world so anyone
can go in there and look at
his DNA designs arm and also give them access to the tools that he used to do
it
which is totally not how big pharma does things
at all on but he let's let's see if we can look at his daily here so
transformation results
think this one has some cool pictures so here we go so here here was a control
these ones didn't work then %uh purple on these ones are green for yellow
rather
these ones didn't work these ones didn't work those ones didn't work I'll
here's some yours some purple and blue purple really sinister plot was called
by libya leeson if it's purple than you know the the medical
compounds there com and so he wound up
other similar ones near but anyways he wound up designing a genetic
circuit that did a very good job this
and he's now in the process love figuring out how he can
extract the lease in and distillate and and selling
he's a young guy I think he's slick 28 years to kids
he's in school and he made some cash and he's really motivated to be like a
why why is sigma-aldrich the only coming to cancel this
I'm gonna go ahead and do it arm and we're really excited about this because
it serve a proof-of-concept wears like you know there's a huge boom in
computing because people like hey wait a minute this is accessible
and I can make a tight cash doing this and I can do a lot of good I can
make a valuable product for people arm and and life science biotech
is is with their like this is truly happening now
arm and certainly by the next hope there's gonna be people up here
showing off their files I love THC
viagara calls like that yet
dynamite you awesome young asian countries that have been impressive just
with the RGB which the to make you know red in blue
I victory that glow I would force a protein
and it's like designed in such a way that's it's not at all like the
traditional
I you know biochemistry molecular biology techniques doing it
and installation is simply I'm
a picture but either way the halls of the point is is very you know
user friendly kinda thing I've doing the assembly up the DNA
I mean you can look up the details on how it works and I could go through it
but
knaves like larry has a beber a.m.
yet ISA you'll get get the 10 friends and experts in like 20 bucks and buy one
is getting
have some fun and you can go on and and I look at other people's work
and if you dislike flight at wanna make me feel AC don't wanna do experiments
just follow the other person's protocol annual you know by the end of two weeks
you'll probably have like 20 grand with Avi leeson
I in your fridge gonna have to find a way to extracted
and legally sell it
but you know those are cool I mean we're hackers rate you guys gotta fear at
these
gotta figure out these problems because they're the opportunities there
and service the product and working on in this in my ass others being a tease
the SE
just mentioned I am yes so
Serena trimix East I can produce THC and
and yet and it will bring to do something with it and
poly X Factor for
on
me it's super funny to think about what you're gonna wear imagination can go
with this kinda thing like you know is this
you know I do is from sickle products but you know its features is
same time so on what's really cool about using yeast and thinking about
East as a microbial factory when you think the factories
their huge multi-million dollar 100 million dollar billion dollar
machines their architectural that are owned by big companies
arm and they're doing similar things that biology does biology are machines
that grow things and make things right
and so if we can find a way to program or or hijack East
to produce other valuable products aside from
puffy bread and beer then that's really exciting right because think about it
you know how long have
humans been making beer and wine 10,000 years fifteen thousand years
twenty thousand years I don't know a long time definitely definitely
thousands of years for sure
people have been using a East as as
as a tool to turn inexpensive products like
sugary water grape juice into a high-value
fantastically exciting product
like like wine you know how some wine is hundreds of dollars for a moderate
but it's just so great use to start and it's these microbes that
eat the sugar PO wine
and then we drink it right and soaks up its cool but when he think I think about
how they make beer
beers mean small batches anyone here maybe a small bash in their garage or
basement rhetorical
awesome me too anyone here may be really huge large factory owned by the batter
Moulson
wall with a brewmaster in the house
cool awesome but but those machines cost millions hundreds millions of dollars
but you get to make
beer at scale and sell make big bucks but when it comes down to it the process
is exactly the same
right you can it's it's a totally scaleable technology
and if we can use that idea net
thinking to produce other products in addition to THC like
any other kind of biological product if that we can do it that way
that's a really to me is a really exciting idea really potentially
super duper lucrative idea yet and he just think about plants themselves as
like
you know be able to piece is common on their own a plant is the key couple used
to grow but
if you think about Eastin this exponentially growing
thing you can get that same amount biomass like a week for 22 years a
pro-growth
so and so this is the end of the beginning
arm we're gonna put a challenge out so I've been reading 2600 the hacker
quarterly since I was 12 or 13 or something like that arm
and and in this whole time I mean I've missed a few issues here and then
here and there I but I've never seen by attacking article and 2600
has head has there been a by having our content 601
yes fair well there needs to be more his I
an easy more so for example is anyone familiar with
riley's by ok older yeah it's pretty cool
it's a to bring anything they've had 45 issues now
om and basically if you you can download for free arm
these guys are clearly fans a 2600 cuz if you look at the layout and the kind
of Content
it's very similar to a 6-under back accordingly but it's for bio
comment if you read their mass and it says rip the start a revolution that
will transform our lives as radically is a computer revolution in the seventies
the biological revolution will touch every aspect of our lives
food and health certainly but also art recreation law business
and much more and so to me that sounds like a really cool arm
we to stoke some fire so I'm hoping that weekend some
you know make sure that the 2600 community also
kinda participate in this as well and doesn't let Riley own the whole space
on and I guess a as expanding on the idea Vienna
the beginning in you know the hackers the by hackers this is that
sorted out few years ago where more aware
you know what they were doing and how this late appear to like security
agencies things like that
or surpass that point where now all the Securities know that this exists and the
are you know where did and they're not you know no one's afraid to be targeted
anymore
basically I'm ands now people are going well as supporting the crowdfunding
and even you miss minutes municipal governments are they
you know seeing this as like a really good thing I got this is gonna Jerry
capitalist through so many of them and you look at these is going and so
in essence is up more support going for it now then there was before
on and the coolest couple the quality is
I I was looking at cribs in today I'm the crib Sanford
is no caption available devices yet and you know if you have an expiry
you can sequence and find out exactly out worse the deck level
on and another caller ID on the corruption thing as we just saw
something about
DNA testing people and San others it may be a demand for
a way to you encrypt your own DNA sled people can scan you
some like that or or so or stand like a basically just
get everyone CNN just put it all over the place yeah Etsy can imagine Michael
like a weed spray thing they just take but to people's lives in
anything this love you have a dozen different people and
and it no that's coming up so I
two weeks ago I was at MIT and I was China some people talking about
you know some stuff since we actually doing science sector and I
a guy said all this is awesome let me show you what I'm working on these just
that finishes PhD
and he's working on a basically say it's a it's a
device it's about this size you know the sizeof I forever
and it said DNA synthesizer meaning it's a
it's a tool that actually creates DNA in the city one thing we didn't talk about
quite yet is DNA synthesis on but so it's the opposite up DNA sequencing
everyone's for DNA sequencing where you read in your
genetic code and at the end of the day you've got a text file with your genetic
code on it but we have the technology to date actually
printed that text file arm into a real piece of DNA that you can put into an
organism
on and these are BigMachines you know the size of a
free edger are free agent are getting smaller and smaller and I actually saw
a guy holding his hand a microfluidic parade that was for the size of an
iPhone
it works you can print DNA on it it runs off a nine volt battery
and I it like I am how much like that's a prototype its prolly prices
but it was just me and acrylic probably five bucks worth of stuff
so it's coming and lookin to legal
here cyclical arm
you can make viruses yeah it won't be
as easy as anyone can imagine you know
Maki you this is like the you know your stuff that people getting over now is a
quick sec me know
oh my god in the fires is but like really no likes you
a youth you'd probably die before yes got to that point anything
I you you're you're putting yourself at risk more than anyone else
and so as far as that that's like
biosafety basically I am and
just doing the site to sell for like to note is producing the spires isn't
its not even there yet leading edge science in what month
one thing that was mean only started setting up bar doin by a group
one other hurdles that we had was that we didn't know what the law was about
biosafety
and biosecurity we just knew that you know we did have to take some steps to
make sure that things were safe
but we didn't know what that was and it was difficult to connect with
you know people in government or whoever that actually had that
arm and and so you know years later today
now we do know and what's interesting is the kinda stuff that's coming into
virtually all DIY Biolabs
isn't even on the radar of up by security people
no one is working with human pathogens no one is working with buyers is
the kinda stuff that people are doing our with lab E-coli
East those kind of things that are specifically designed to work
in a very specific environment if those microbes were to leave the petri dish
they would not survive so it's kinda like um
there's actually the scene in jurassic park it earlier on scene where
I am you know they've engineered the dinosaurs to lack a certain
enzymes that they can't exist without leaving their special feed
thats basically exactly how lab microorganisms work they've been
engineered to be
week yeah exactly
guys but as you know the yet yet that's a movie
but you know hey to it's a fantastic movie
we should we should all watch it we shall watch it yet
I galleons for anything just forget all the heightened yet tackles bio
but yet to have a dinosaur you can make you know the jerseys
thats skin died Andrea
in the wild joins Mike question began to question serious
and for II
to few more things I have a couple just couple ideas are like you know
hope we can inspire guesses are working on anything on
there is Lake well you guys are always find the most mileage that a No
for one like I was tired positions in touch today and makes
you guys should really so they can send the stuff and
you get involved find your local by actor spacers you know I am
star one if there is one I am and the offer free to reach out to the community
go to do.i bile duct work is accused me of their deaths just
no really and inspiring as far as getting stuff going
as a couple things ideas that I once the app in our
one the city a Programmer's Guide coding in bio
on and I was inspired by the non from eros guide to
trading in Python but did that and got the voicemail introductory computer
science course
I'm fish so and that's awesome and I once like that we're doing bio
and nice thing that I wanna see happen is that your computer
controls its own temperature it's you know she did from overheating things
like that
I wanna see somebody puts bacteria in your computer and treated by reactor
where you can meeting
this consistent temperature and it wasn't a cherry on it so
sunny know do these things and take to get the pictures as me and I'll
cause mines something like that on a I'm
yet that's that's I guess I don't say anything else
on yeah i think i think thats a good introduction
army don't wanna blow your minds too much to get started but yet the
resources are all their online
connect with us if you have any questions comments or or
whatever but I guess maybe we can start taking some questions now i spose
yep the returns may come
were there but none there
there's arms so my question was around
the sequencing various life forms
genetic sequences just the identification potentially a
functional components have those ok I know trying to T
you know the raw data and then saying okay well then this piece is actually
doing this
and so forth you know kinda I guess in a way
you know developing an old an open source toolkit love those genetic
building blocks right because it's one thing to say all right well we can take
you know the complete sequence from this glowing being went into this E coli
no clothes and that's cool but you know can you take just
a subset of that and you know transferred
I guess the question is around have there been any efforts to
compile a sec that kinda data and make it available in an open source fashion
yet yet the answer is yes
and muster which once yeah I mean this is
a bunch I'm Desire X is actually one is them
problems up there when I think there is another one that sidelined today a
camera and beaded
on but sad yet parts that I dot org is the one that's
run by the international agenda the engineer sheen
competition I'm item yet so
I am this is going to surf around and look at what
parts have been submitted and the system in soviet the way it works is that it's
undergraduate research teams that just work on a project for the summer and
you know 'cause in DNA but in the experience if it works and then summit
1382
the registry I am answer right now I think they just
they opened up this year to do I buy labs I'm hands
the way works that you can just the sand you first like it stack a party
news and then you can request a price from the registry I'm in to see the case
%uh me this thing that kills
am you know for TCL genuine their CTS used in there yet
I'm innings be others other
this other repositories like the NCBI which is open database that you can go
and
search for various organisms and there's a there's a difference where you know
some organisms that are %uh research organisms are
very highly characterize people know a lot about it you can go to the database
and find an organism
where we have the genetic sequence but no one knows with the parts do
no one knows what the parts are whenever I'm sometimes people what they do is
they
on they compare known parts to in an organism see if their similarities
and select pic okay this roses red and here's his other Florence red okay well
maybe
it's similar com but a lot it was interesting about genetic ozell X
software is written by people
we've we invented computers reinvented
software I'm whereas DNA is our life is
pre-existing we did not admit it and so it's not really a
a process %uh engineering it's a process of
discovery on which is a little bit different which is interesting cuz its
I think maybe that could be reason as to why we see such a a different arm
audience of people there are involved in by hacking versus
straight up computing I don't know if anyone would argue with me but when I
was and so in computer science ninety percent of the people my class were guys
om but that's not the case with bio when I was in bio class is it was
50/50 or maybe even suede I more towards female side which is going to be
interesting arm opportunity for a whole new group of people to get involved in
this evidentiary
firms from an explosion
arm so I'm interested with the on
talking about decrease in cost of production for drugs
and how that relates to pounds because I know that one of the frequently raised
arguments for through maintaining a patent system all
is that it's such a high cost am also interested
he say that a lot of these furtive tools are becoming small an open-source
and I know that with 3d printing one the
things with it just happened to sort of gloom has
hands were falling out of there time-line do you know if the current
round
I'll tools are actually coming out of hand right now or is this going to be an
issue where
the patent like anything there's there's always issues with IP
one of the reasons why we chose to a target feel a sin for our
are wet where kit was it deletion is a naturally-occurring compound
it's not something that was invented by somebody that would be under
IP constraints om that yet that is a problem
and really no one knows what to do there's a couple
there's a issue love a tool called genome compiler which is a
DNA design tool calm and the had gooey the allergy to
organize your your genetic code om and they actually
were hit with a patent infringement case from teeny 2.0 saying that we own
the the patent on using a gooey
to manipulate a text file and the I mean somebody gave a net Patton and the
had to come to an agreement and that's unfortunate
but the good news times don't last forever and there's there's think
there's a there's a keypad
is a keypad for DNA synthesis I believe that
as a DNA synthesis is a patented process right now
but wanted to keep at Cinespace is set to expire in 2014 or 2015
I'm so it's going to be exciting to see some of the smaller groups that maybe
had the technology available but
I you can't bring it out for
for IP fears Tim soon will be able to do so
keep keep your eye on a would be too careful there about the possibility of
miss you so mean
a bad guy to kidnap you June take you to an evil lab somewhere but
when everyone asked about his the who's a piece on as it happens go camera that
the
are the new new genetic alphabet letters with
know the promise ring see ATG home porn do you think that action why in a
concept is going to be
well that really change things I think you will I think it's in this an example
love how malleable life is and how malleable these
self-replicating by owning a robots are if we can
add extra pieces to it have them still work maybe does it make
the codes more expressive to have two extra characters I don't know
are you coming out right here are you going on a rule sarisi are you going to
go down that road alone try to
child-care yeah I mean party like synthetic biology assaults to you
I learn how these fundamental organisms work by rebuilding them from scratch
kinda thing
so you know that's that's a very good example you know maybe
eons ago in the first organisms they had like a dozen different kinds bases and
this year too that were there and now they're not there's something back
its its sole really really cool and I'm
yet you know he can think at times according up visions whenever is the
same as
paint on the team i kidnap you okay
I I'm I was wondering how difficult do you think it would be too
so to create I think arbitrary pathway
so like an arbitrary metabolic pathways are discovering one in nature
you find some product some protein product that you wanna synthesize
and you just sorta get the sequence from that mean you inject the sequence
in one of these sorta tabletop systems like is that as a possible
yep exactly pretty much need yeah exactly describe to you find sequences
and then you can
on the specimen they could be you know the just for us a person's was just low
or they could be enzymes that's you know converts I am
sugar into some my way see sir I'm that's what I was a kid is
that so I i guess i reset the wrong way I mean what are the whether restrictions
on my
arbitrary pathways that for example there's some bacteria that
that do electron transport right they just process electron so
yeah presumably like you could use that make us our class a computer right by
growing bacteria netting pathways to them
bad works that way rates Utah commitment to giving the up-front transport
Jasola creating an alternate chain so that you can actually create logic gates
with an
bring cultures bacteria yeah exactly at what
it's totally that's that's a good thats synthetic biology is
creating is sort of systems that and to do these kinds of things
and as far as and yeah I mustered I'm
maybe it didn't quite get a question cell but Dr freeing our pitchers this is
like that is
see a you can definitely do that maybe eight you know where things go in the
cell and
they have their own system setup and so ideally when you're trying to freeze a
drug you on tap into this is an important resource from it
and Tino even on that level then you can manipulate
its to enhance isn't I wasn't in the direction of your drug pathway basically
thank you
are I'm so I was a big hug with the
current state of the art is a for flexibility in creating weird switzer
Park organisms and jeans like do you need
the gene to be in somebody's catalog user through the arbitrary sequences up
between you know what
either or I mean you can right now he just like very much letters like that
like water on Lake I
you know ittt diskettes incise I'm you may not do anything
bites on you know there's a chance it would do anything
I'm will ensure that but see that can't you get
the arbitrary surfaces supported a delight for yeah I mean you can look up
online to find the guy with the sequence for
party even say like order and deal just sent you an email you put any bacterial
glow
and time there's one thing that we didn't discuss it so we've been talking
about
in a purely by like coding for purely biological functions
you can code for logical functions as well because if deion DNA is a
information storage medium you could translate a poem
into DNA code representation and put that DNA code into an organism
and then have that organism live immune if you put in the right place so doesn't
kill it
a bit with live in replicating grow NBC what you've got is a machine
that makes copies of that poem and it exponentially increases the number of
poems
this has been something that sorry done by Keane poet I
a number of years ago I'm but that that some again so we can touch on that there
are
are logical uses 14 is a
information storage medium that has nothing to do with life yet
DNA is like really really stable if set room temperatures that people are
bringing stuff like
shakespearian Mozart and according to DNA just for long-term storage
anything and that's that's that's typical that that should write that
extra
such as crazy thank you so
your made the arm pretty common analogy that both the genomes and computer
programs are code
number computer programs are usually written in a high-level language that's
readable by humans with a well-defined semantics
so is there anything like that
forward the the code for genome or is that a misleading analogy there
or could it be possible when you begin to develop something like that
I think it's definitely possible com a lot of work needs to be done so
again in biology we're not working for first from first principles
in computing we r we made computers we know exactly with the microcode is every
we build up whereas work predicting down with bio and so we're not at the point
where we
really know exactly that the first principles and
and I don't know if we ever will on but that you know to be
actual bioengineering we're going to have to get down to that level and a
we're not there yet yet so I think maybe you're talking about the annotated
genomes and
you need to see what price do what anything in that that exists I'm
it's not a very you know user
friendly people readable kinda thing letting go to see the icing on the cake
this genome
and initially on sequences I'm butts
you know it needs to be a better interface hands
know hopefully somebody's gonna do that in hit and also when
you know when you're writing suffering a computer and you wanna test your
your code you run it you execute rate Nico where's
if you're testing your biological code you have to get the DNA synthesized
Scott
which cost money you have to transfixed the organism which takes time
if the girl the organism which takes time then you have to be able to look
and characterize to see what's actually happening so that that the
that iteration process in bio coding
is right now a lot longer then software
yes it's a taxiway formal methods is one of the oldest outfield the computer
science that what you just described so
awesome are great and if the guy
right I'm still love will head to the lobby or something that'll
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