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jon: Welcome to the daily
Show.
My name is is jon stewart.
We're back home, baby.
Back from the conventions.
Very excitedded tonight.
On our program kofi annan will
Be joining us on the program.
Former secretary-general of the
United nations.
What an eventful week.
Remember the internet, the
Magical force that showered
Democracy on the middle east
when you look at the arab
Spring, how were people able to
Amass in various places?
Twitter
it's impossible to overstate
The role the internet has
Played.
The arab spring wouldn't have
Happened without twitter and
Without social media
jon: True.
It's true.
Of course here we use it to blog
The x-factor.
Millions of people it's an
Exciting time for twitter.
Hey, what else is on the
Internet?
Let me see.
That's not arab spring.
Democracy, no freedom.
Yeah, that's... I don't know
What that is.
What's this?
an incredibly amateurish,
Crude and nasty movie made in
The United States and released
On you-tube, "innocence of
Muslims" it's called.
It depicts the prophet mohammed
As a dope, a fraud, a pedophile
And womanizer
jon: It's you-tube.
I mean nobody pays attention to
You-tube.
Why not have some fun with it.
That will be the last we hear of
It.
What's that now in
u.S. Embassies and
Continuesate las under siege
In middle east.
Africa and even asia.
This map shows the unrest
Spreading to more than a dozen
Nations.
jon: I see.
That brings us to tonight's
Segment, actual democalypse.
All this destruction and
Bloodshed was over a dumb
Internet video made by some
[bleep].
And promoted by...
( applause )
... And it was promoted by the
Koran-burning florida pastor
Terry jones.
I believe we have a clip of him
As well.
a very naughty boy.
Now go away.
who are you?
I'm his mother, that's who
Jon: I'm being told that is a
Very different terry jones
Mocking a different world
Religion in a film that has been
Round for 3 years.
Well, that must be a lot of
Burned embassies... Really?
None at all.
Fair enough.
Look, I'm all about cultural
Sensitivity.
The whole point of my 1996 rab
Album.
But I have to say, I don't
Understand this one.
An online film that nobody has
Seen made by some [bleep] is a
Pretext for violence.
Some of the leaders are
Deliberately exploiting whatever
They can get their hands on to
Rile up the populous for their
Own political gain.
Hey, wait a minute.
You really are getting the hang
Of this democracy thing pretty
Fast.
By the way, no one over there
Was freaking out when egyptian
State television aired a movie
Based on the protocols of the
Elders of zion which has won the
Oscar for most insulting film
Ever since movies were invented.
The whole "jews rule the world
And kill christian babies."
It's a tad offensive.
Did the jews get revenge by
Burning embassies.
No we got our revenge in the
Old-fashioned way, a bad review
In the times and a rather wry
Cartoon poking fun of a film in
The new yorker with a cat as a
Film critic who doesn't want...
It's very wry.
The point is you want to be a
Mature country you need a better
Way to express your viewing
Displeasure.
The rating system.
I give it two thumbs off.
You have to find symbolism.
For more on this I'm joined by
John oliver live in cairo.
John, how is everything going?
What's happening?
what's happening.
Jon, it's beautiful here, jon.
Friendly people.
Rich history.
Delicious food.
I'm having a fantastic time
jon: Really?
That's great
not really, jon.
Of course not.
Have you been near a [bleep]
Television recently?
Things are pretty bad around
Here.
Look, I think it's important for
Us all to pause and note that it
Is clearly not the majority of
Muslims who are protesting in
The streets.
It's not even the majority of
Protestors who are getting
Violent.
To put this in context, we
Should really remember islam's
Young age.
jon: It's 1400 years old
Exactly, jon.
In religious years islam is
Still just a teenager.
Put it in context.
Think what christianity was
Doing when it was only 1400
Years old.
jon: No, that's not...
( cheers and applause )
jon: Yeah, I guess that is.
..
exactly.
Bloody crusades, the
Inquisition, execution of hair
Ticks.
Christianity is just lucky there
Weren't cell phones around then
To film that [bleep].
jon: You know what?
I mean, if you think about it,
When judaism was still a
Teenager
judaism, are you kidding me.
On: Yeah
You people couldn't keep your
Teenage shofars in your tunics.
Begetting in canaan
jon: Begetting in babylon.
We were begetting so much we
Couldn't even stand on a
Mountain without having to hold
A tablet in front of our... You
Know what I mean?
you people nearly begat
Yourselves blind.
The point is is, jon, there is
Good news.
That is that religions grow out
Of this awkward phase.
Again look at christianity.
We've aged into young adulthood.
Now we can all laugh about the
Time we used to burn young girls
At the stake for being
Left-handed.
Or as we called it back then,
Witch craft.
jon: Yeah, I don't think
That's so funny.
jon, that's because your
Religion is... In fact, how old
Are you?
jon: We're 5773 today.
Obviously you don't look a
Day over 5729.
That's a fact.
jon: We've been jogging.
You're glowing.
It's working.
The point, jon, is that we need
To be patient with islam.
They do not have it easy.
Remember, most teenagers have
Some means of escape from their
Insecurity.
They smoke pot.
They experiment with sex.
All night bacon parties.
Reformation.
Muslims can't do any of that
Stuff right now.
jon: You're saying if we just
Wait 300 to 400 years
half a millennium at most.
Jon: Then there will be peace
Peace?
What?
[bleep] no, jon.
But if we're lucky, we will
Finally stop fighting over real
Or imagined insults to our
Religions and go back to
Fighting over what really
Matters: Natural resources and
Arbitrary lines on maps.
( cheers and applause )
jon: John o
jon: Welcome back to the
Show.
As we've seen seeing, a lot of
Unrest and anger in the middle
East this past week.
The condemnation of obama has
Been swift and furious
this leading from behind
Obama doctrine is up in flames
terrorists believe they can
Attack our embassy with
Impunity, they believe the killr
Ambassador and there will be no
Response
how much longer can we afford
To spill our blood and treasure
Trying to, quote unquote,
Promote democracy in places that
Do not have any values for
Civilized society.
jon: Yes.
Democracy promotion is wrong.
That's a somewhat isolationist
Position, ex-governor palin.
Does anyone see our role in the
World differently?
Yes, you 2008 still governor
Palin
I see our role in the world
As one of being a force for
Good, to help these rising
Smaller democratic countries
That are just, you know, they're
Putting themselves on the map
Right now
jon: What a bold freedom
Agenda.
It's a little bit naive.
I mean, think of the blow-back
egyptians elected a muslim
Brotheredhood member to head
Their country.
Let's not forget.
This is very first place in the
Middle east that president obama
Promised to bring, quote
Democracy too
jon: You believe through the
Prism of history people will
Look back at obama and this
Shift of freedom, efforty and
Democracy in the middle east and
He'll be viewed as myopic
through the prism of history
We'll look back at george w.
Bush and see this shift toward
Freedom, liberty and democracy
In the middle east and elsewhere
In the world and he will be
Viewed as a great visionary
jon: Full throated defense of
The value of democracy
the meade cora and our
Government, democracy.
This is a good thing.
And I'm sitting here saying, all
Right.
What is going to take over?
It was obviously the muslim
Brotherhood was the only group
That had any political clout.
jon: Young not as fat you.
All right.
I guess you can't just let
People depots their own
Dictators in the name of
Democracy.
we have at least some hope
For peace in the middle east and
Democracy.
Certainly better than what they
Have.
jon: I got to tell you
Something.
I love it when that conservative
Patriot guy pulls on that naive
Leftist deutch bag.
What's the name of that show in
Hannity and takes the opposite
Position the younger hannity.
It's a great show.
That's great television.
Now listen to me, we could go
All night.
We could go all night bringing
Up examples of pundits on the
Right who couldn't do enough to
Promote democracy in the middle
East as long as it was done at
The end of george bush's jaunt.
As middle eastern countries
Choose leaders for themselves
Lordy lordy, it's not enough.
Why don't we talk through an
Actual middle east policy
americans today are seeing a
Mess on their television
Screens.
There's unleaving throughout the
Middle east.
got a real mess on our hands.
In part because of the policies
Of president obama over the last
Several years in the region
jon: That's foreign policy
Advisor to mitt romney and
Mr. Ryan dan senor, decrying the
Middle east messiness.
Why don't you rebut him, chief
Spokesman for the coalition
Provisional authority in iraq, a
More junior dan senor
democracy we often said when
We were there that democracy is
Messy.
If you want clean and tidy
There's dictatorship but right
Now these iraqis political
Leaders are immersed in their
First sort of democratic
Experiment
jon: I get you, man.
It was the early to mid, man.
Everybody was experimenting with
Democracy then.
What's up?
You know what [bleep] I'm out of
Here.
Just go at it, you two.
just a reminder of the chaos
That a lot of the policies of
This administration have sowed.
Chaos in the arab spring.
Chaos for allies in israel.
There are certainly areas that
Are problematic.
We are having some tough days.
We'll have tough days ahead.
What we've seen in the last
Three days is a product of
Policies that have been building
Over the last three years.
If we are successful in building
Some modicum democracy, it will
Be an enormous success.
You think the president's policy
In the middle east has been a
Success.
Looks like a disaster to most
Americans.
There has been significance
Violence in recent weeks.
Certainly today's tragic death
Of over 30 people but it also
Correlates with progress on the
Political track.
Disaster.
Progress.
Chaos.
Disaster.
Progress.
( cheers and applause )
jon: Wow.
One man's chaos is another man's
Progress.
Here's the thing that I really
Find the most troubling.
How can one man's opinion shift
So drastically and yet his
Hairline stays exactly the same?
I can't tell if these guys are
Cynical, clueless or in denial.
We will be right
( cheers and applause )
jon: Welcome back.
My guest tonight, he was the
7th secretary-general of the
United nations.
Most recently the u.N. And arab
League envoy to syria.
His new book is called
Interventions, a life in war and
Peace.
Please welcome to the program
Kofi annan.
( cheers and applause )
thank you, sir.
Nice to see you.
jon: How are you?
Thanks for joining us.
The book is called
Interventions.
Let me ask you this.
How's the world?
messy.
Jon: It is messy.
It is messy.
Jon: You have been following
These events for a very long
Time.
Would you say in your estimation
On the kofi annan scale of peace
In our time to "oh, my god, run!
"where would you say the world
Is right now?
you're close to run.
Jon: Really?
More than in previous times,
Even the bosnian conflict,
People were involved in
today we have syria's problem
In the middle east and the whole
Region.
If syria has a miscalculation
Can really create a problem, we
Will not be able to handle.
Syria is divided.
We know civil war is going on.
The region is divided.
And the security council, that
Supposed to be responsible for
International peace is also
Divided.
This make it very difficult to
Try and bring a solution.
That's why I've been encouraging
Unity of the council, for them
To make an effort and really
Work in a very volatile region
Of the world
jon: Let me ask you this.
The security council, two
Questions.
Who is to blame?
I want names.
(laughing)
Two, even if they were unified,
What would they do?
What could they do?
Could they do anything other
Than issue a proclamation to
Syria to say, come on.
I think there is quite a bit
They can do.
If they were to come together
And begin to put pressure on the
Government in the region to work
With them, to pressure both
Sides and put a proposal on the
Table that there has to be a
Political transition, political
Settlement and really give them
An idea of what that would
Entail.
We tried to do that in geneva on
The 30th of June when we
Held a meeting where the foreign
Ministers of the permanent
Members of the u.N. Were there.
Secretary clinton was there.
Russia, all of them were there.
We agreed on principles and
Guidelines for political
Settlement which I had expected
Them to come to new york and
Endorse.
It hasn't been endorsed up to
Today
jon: Why is russia reluctant
To endorse?
I think actually on this one
The problem was not on the
Russian side
jon: Let's just blame them.
(laughing)
Jon: Obviously the show is on
American television.
I'm sure when you visit the
Russian tv show, you can lay it
At our feet.
we complain that the russians
And the chinese have vetoed and
Blocked us from taking action
jon: That's right
But I still don't know what
Specific effective action we are
Going to take on the ground that
The russians and the chinese
Blocked.
If today they were to say, okay,
We have no objections, what are
We going to do?
And this is the question
jon: Okay.
Because if you're asking me, we
Have a terrible problem here.
But have world events gotten
Outside of the control of the
Leading powers or do we have a
Mistaken nostalgic view of what
Countries were really able to do
And influence even in the past?
How did these always... Haven't
These always arisen?
I think you've always had
That problem but during the cold
War the cold war, the true
Powers could influence
Countries.
There was some control.
At the collapse of the soviet
Union, the council became a bit
More harmonious and they could
Take positions.
So the u.N. And the
Peace-keeping forces began being
Intre deuced into civil war
Situations
jon: In some ways the
Democratization of the region,
The rise of democracy, the
Collapse of the soviet union,
Has created much of this unrest.
We are going to have to perhaps
Live with the volatility until
The next world war.
and when is that going to be
Jon: Believe me, I've got
Things in mind.
Will you stick around so we can
Talk a little bit more about the
Book and your rise to the top of
The u.N. And all that?
If you would.
I'd appreciate that very much.
We'll be right back.
"intervention: A life in war and
Peace" is on the book shelves
Now.
We'll have more with kofi annan
On the
That's our show.
Before we go, I just want to
Mention something real quick.
As you know on this program we
Have at times poked a bit of fun
At... Ummm... Fox news.
Well, that being the case, I
Have been challenged to a debate
By one of their pundit-news
Hybrid man
big announcement about me and
Jon stewart.
In order to illuminate the vital
Issues associated with the
Upcoming presidential election.
Stewart and I will debate, man
To man, eye to eye... Well, not
Really.
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jon: I'm so scared.
Bill o'reilly wants to tango, so
I say this.
I accept, mr. O'reilly.
I shall meet you in the square.
For an old-fashioned dual of
Witts.
Obviously he and I... There had
Be some discussion and
Compromises made.
He has demanded that we speak at
Podiums.
I have asked for crazy straws.
We will do this in our nation's
Capital, washington d.C.
It will be on October 6.
You can join us live in the
Theater or it will be streamed
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Obviously all the information is
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50% of the money will go to
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Supply-side job creation.
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the thing I like about you is
You do take cheap shots all the
Time but you defend those cheap
Shots
that's not the only thing you
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