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So.
Henry is Norris' best friend, all right?
One day, he goes over to Norris' house,
Norris' wife, Andrea, answers the door.
Says "Hey, how you doin'?
"Norris isn't home right now."
He says, "Hey, how you doin'?"
And proceeds to take out $1000 cash.
He says to Andrea, "I always liked you.
"How about I give you this $1000 in cash,
"and we go upstairs before the man comes in."
Andrea, now she's looking at this $1000.
Just like most of us, she could use that cash.
So they go upstairs.
10, 15 minutes later they come back down.
Well, two hours or so, Norris comes back home.
Says, "Hey baby, how you doin'?
"Henry come by here today?"
Now, this catches Andrea off guard.
She's a little shaken.
"Yeah, he was here earlier."
Norris says, "Good, he was bringing me
"that $1000 he owes me."
Wisper, you're really fucked up, man.
Ain't nothin' but a joke.
Oh god, hello there, J.
Chanel Four News.
You mean to tell me you finally got caught for something?
Turn off the fuckin' camera!
Nah, nah, it's nothing like that.
We're just shooting something for posterity.
Yeah, prosterity, your prosterity.
It's posterity, but I get what you're saying.
- Get you something there? - All right man.
Don't get me on that thing.
What's the matter, Carter?
You got something to hide?
No sir, I just don't like my picture taken.
Okay, okay.
Straight on him.
Hey!
Hey, how you doin' brother?
She's quite the looker.
Hey yeah you know, that's Laura.
She's an old friend.
She knows what to do with that camera.
- She does web designs. - Hi.
Yeah?
So how is that son of yours?
Oh man, he just got a football scholarship.
That is fantastic!
Gonna be a defensive end!
As long as he ain't no tight end.
Fuck you.
You really gotta relax.
You're gonna get high blood pressure like that.
Breathe a little bit, you know what I mean?
J, there's a couple of them over there.
A couple of them right here.
I got 'em.
Can we change the music?
No, J loves his jazz.
Get this.
Kelp, you underage, get out.
And you, you tell Uno, ain't no dealing in my bar.
Says who?
Say me, mother fucker.
Fuck you!
Fuck me, huh?
I told you.
Ain't no dealing in my establishment.
I said it once, the gun speaks next time.
Get the fuck out.
Bye.
You're gonna get what's coming to you.
Yeah, that sounds good.
That's not necessary
but y'all keep going though, it's fine.
Everybody is safe, get back to your,
hey, how you doing?
Good move, honey.
Appreciate it.
It's just getting a little bit of happy
with these losers.
They just don't learn.
Oh I was hoping you wanted someone to play with.
In my movie, well you see
I'm the only star of this here film.
Say thought why don't you leave
your name, number and your bra size, oh really.
You know what, just make that your name and your number.
Oh okay.
I'll be right with you.
Delete, hmm, come on.
Yo boss.
Those kids'll never learn.
Get you something?
Nah, I'm good.
Hey.
Oasis.
Right.
Me close up for you?
Yeah, appreciate it.
My man.
Off to the Oasis.
Yeah!
Apollo!
Here we are.
Yup, hey everyone.
Josiah in the house.
Gee, thanks for waiting, J.
Billy boy!
How you doing?
Hey, all right.
What's up?
Shit.
Father!
Does your bishop know you're in my establishment?
Indeed he does.
I gotta find my audience.
So get to work.
Shh.
But seriously, how's your parish doing?
This ain't exactly the richest neighborhood in the world.
The Lord always finds a way to help.
Yeah he does.
Oh, God bless you Josiah.
Appreciate, appreciate.
Oh, you know what I like.
So he's behaving himself?
When he ain't hammin' it out.
Baby, this is my ace camera girl Laura.
This is Melonie.
She's my Special Projects Manager.
Really?
So what project she manage?
I'm just kidding.
Get you something, honey?
I'm set, thanks.
Josiah?
Hmm.
- Come here. - Okay.
Be right there.
What's up, brother?
- All right. - How you doin'?
It's a nice good night for a weeknight, huh?
Mhmm.
So I'm home?
Movie yeah, I'm just planning to make tonight.
- Okay. - Appreciate it.
So.
How's it going so far, really?
We need some other family.
The kids, that makes sense.
Yeah, little family time.
So I can, I'll set that up.
But you know, we're done here, you can go home.
Okay.
All right.
Manager, manager?
You're not pissed off at me or anything?
This has been a long and busy day.
Plus I don't know if I wanna be a part
of your little movie.
Just having a little fun.
I'm not really planning on keeping all night, anyway.
Enough.
So you know, Willy's closing at Lion's Den.
How about we get a pie and go to your place?
You think I'm really gonna let you drive
all the way to Jersey this late?
Nah, I could always just bunk up on your couch, you know?
J, you ain't never sleep on nobody's couch.
Enough.
Come on, go home, I'll see you tomorrow.
Okay.
This stuff come in from Antonio's okay?
Got it, boss.
All right, wanna drink?
Willy did some coffee.
So you ready for some family stuff?
Sure.
Cool, I gotta stop by my accountant
and then we'll head to Jersey, all right?
Whenever you're ready.
I'm ready, come on.
Okay.
All right, Willy.
Don't know what I'd do without you.
Can we go faster?
Turn it down.
So this is the neighborhood.
Look, look, make sure you get her.
Okay.
Hey!
Hey Miss Casale.
Hey.
Gotta love the neighbors.
Treat me like that now,
wait till I'm a billionaire.
It's beautiful, J.
Okay, here we go.
Daddy!
Say hi to Laura.
Hi.
Hello, young man.
Boom!
What the hell is she doing here?
I'm doing
- a video. - In the kitchen, Josiah!
I'll be with you in...
In the kitchen!
I'll be with you in a minute.
Come on, come on.
All right, go play in your room, buddy, okay?
Come on, come on.
Jenine?
Hey baby girl.
Hi, Dad.
This is Jenine, my good buddy
and great soccer player.
- Hi. - Hey.
How you doing?
I'm good.
All right.
This is Laura.
She's gonna be doing some video of me.
Oh maybe you can come in
to our soccer practice next week.
The whole team can be in it.
For you, we can make that happen.
We'll set something up for next week, all right?
Awesome, awesome.
So what's up, how you been?
Michael's been coming in my room again.
He says he doesn't but he does.
Well, he is five years old.
So, he goes through my stuff!
I'll tell you what, this is what you do.
Remember what I did in the back office?
Set up your webcam
and you're gonna catch him in the act.
Ah, I like that.
Yeah, you catch him red-handed,
live in living color.
Awesome.
All right baby, I love you.
See you.
Come on.
Shh, she's real serious about it.
Josiah, close the door!
This door wants to step on.
God dammit.
Hey, girl.
Alisa, honey?
I work late sometimes.
And we live in Jersey and it's a long drive from Harlem.
And what do we really have here?
You gotta be kidding me.
This is what you wanted, baby.
You wanted out of that tiny little apartment!
I got us this big beautiful house.
You wanted the American dream
and I delivered it to you!
All I've got is two hours of sleep
and a house full of kids.
Tell him.
Not now.
Still taking your raggedy ass running around Harlem
with that stupid fucking camera.
Norma, just shut the fuck up please.
Laura, we don't need this.
Goddamit, woman!
Sis, sis, he ain't never gonna get right.
Look, sorry for back there.
She wanted a big house.
This all turned into a fucking nightmare.
You okay?
Sure.
Look, there's some things we just don't need.
Can you erase that stuff back there?
Absolutely.
Back to the city, I guess.
I got a couch.
That's long gone, history.
Tonight and all nights erased and gone.
Did you back up yesterday's files?
Yeah.
That could be a start.
It's still hot.
- Hey. - Sure thing,
be safe out there.
I will.
All right.
Good to see you, thanks for coming out.
Thank you, all right, all right.
Yes sir.
The more money I give you,
the less money my aunt's gonna get.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
I just wanna thank you all for coming out,
specially for your loyal support.
I think I got a good shot of winning the primary this year
and I can guarantee you
we'll make some big changes here in Harlem.
And you can count on it
like money in the bank!
All right, all right.
Oh, more money, more money.
All right, I hear you my people, all right.
It's all down to collecting and drinking.
You can call it a night.
Sorry everybody.
Enjoy the party.
And a special thank you to Josiah Wisper,
for letting us throw this little party,
letting us throw this little party right here in the Den.
Thank you J.
All right.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Thank you.
Let me hear some noise,
let me hear some noise, people!
Man, you know we gonna do this.
You know we gonna do this.
My man.
Congratulations.
Bring me the glass.
Yo yo, bring me the glass.
What are you on, bankers hours?
Hey, you're the one paying me the big bucks.
I'm going through our stuff.
It's actually working out real nice.
I'm glad.
Yeah.
And what about the wifey stuff?
That's been history, baby.
Good, good, good.
Hey I gotta pay some rent.
You wanna come with me?
Sure.
All right, let's go.
So glad I don't live here anymore.
Make sure you get this.
Big Leroy!
How you doing, brother?
Hey, I'm fine.
All right.
Get yourself something good to eat, all right?
Oh, thank you.
Anytime man.
Spend that on food.
All right.
What's up?
Benny!
Oh hi, Josiah, I have it right here.
Who is it?
I'm sorry it's late.
Thank you for understanding.
Oh, no need.
- Who is it, baby? - How's your Ma?
Oh she's much better.
- Benny. - Good, good, good.
Is that yours?
Yeah, yeah, it's something for me.
It's okay, no big deal.
All right Benny, here's your receipt.
Thank you, Josiah.
God bless you.
In Jesus' name, God bless you.
No need, but hey
tell your mom I said hi, all right?
- I will. - Benny who is it?
Off we go to the next one.
I bet you anything, he got an excuse, he don't got it.
Bryson!
Boy you know damn well there ain't no smoking
in this building.
Man, you seriously got a problem with me.
No, but you know why I'm here.
You said next week.
This is next week.
Then next week.
Tomorrow or your black ass is in the street.
I believe we're speaking the same language.
Yeah yeah, whatever.
I will see you tomorrow.
Come on Laura.
Jenine's birthday's on Saturday.
Can you make it?
I don't know, J.
I don't think the missus likes me too much.
Nah, birthdays are different.
You're coming and I'ma cover your time.
Come on, let's get out of here.
Saturday, June 4th.
I wanna thank all of you
for coming to celebrate my baby girl.
I'm sorry, you're not my baby girl anymore,
just seems like yesterday, when you were a little baby
and we was living in like a little tiny apartment
in the hood.
Anyway.
I wanna thank all of you for coming
to my daughter's birthday.
And I turn the floor over to the birthday girl.
I'd like to thank everyone for coming
and mom and dad for a fantastic birthday party.
Most of all, I'd like to thank God
for my wonderful family, this wonderful house,
this wonderful neighborhood.
Not a day goes by without my thinking
of how blessed we are.
Mom, Dad, I love you.
Happy birthday!
Birthday, yeah.
Happy birthday, Jenine.
We're all so proud of you.
That was a lovely speech you gave.
Josiah could not have asked for a better daughter.
I am so proud of my grandbaby.
This is one of the proudest days I have had.
I can't wait to see what she's gonna become.
Happy birthday, Jenine.
We love you so much.
Sorry I'm late.
Congratulations on your birthday.
Josiah couldn't have asked for a better daughter.
Well he could have asked.
Hey date, love you.
You wanna share some of that cake?
No, you gonna put that glass of
- champagne down? - No I'ma finish it.
Why would I do that?
I hope you have a great time in college
and thank you so much for being the best sister ever.
Isn't that right?
Yeah.
I just really wanted to congratulate
and thank Jenine for being such an amazing role model
all these years.
Anyway I can't wait to see what you're
gonna do next, girl.
Yeah, love peace and happiness.
Hi guys.
Move over, I wanna wish Jenine a happy birthday too!
Happy birthday, Jenine!
I love you, Jenine.
You okay, baby?
Yeah.
Thanks Mom, that's it.
Oh, shit it's late.
I'm gonna go take her home real quick.
Baby girl, I'm sorry, my little adult.
I love you.
Okay dad.
I got something special for you tomorrow.
And you young lady, let's get you home.
Okay.
J, stop speeding.
I ain't speeding.
I'm qualifying.
Make sure to leave me enough battery power.
I'll pay you extra.
Yeah, I got a couple spares.
Thanks.
Damn.
Oh come on J, give me a break.
Hey, that is no way to treat an entrepreneur.
Yeah yeah, fine, I guess, you're right.
Yeah, I try to be, you know.
So how was the party?
Great.
I'm sorry you missed it.
Yeah.
I really doubt that.
Are you gonna play that thing all night?
Excuse me?
The camera.
Ah, the camera.
Yeah, the camera.
No I wasn't planning on it.
Hmm, what's this over here?
I want you to leave the drink
and bring your cannoli.
Uh huh, uh huh, mhmm.
Mmm-mmm, let me get that.
That's right, Lieutenant.
About 250, black as a struck match.
Just started dealing.
Find him at 134th and Lennox.
Keep me posted, I'll do the same.
Hup, eight o'clock, Laura.
Let's check back at Oasis then
head to Jersey.
I wanna surprise Alisa.
Call you up in half an hour, right?
Yeah, no problem, J.
Let's go.
Willy, small brother.
Aight.
Come on, let's go.
Hello New Jersey.
Shit.
Damn Alisa, how many times I have to tell you
not to turn off the porch lights?
J?
I have no idea what's going on here
but do not stop shooting.
What the fuck is going on here?
How many kids do you have?
Three.
And how old were they?
Wisper!
How old were your kids?!
Penny's 16.
And Jenine, she just turned 18.
My little boy, Michael was just five.
Hey, what is that for?
It's fine, officer.
She's just helping me out.
Laura, stay on.
Surveillance can help, it's a small town.
Cameras everywhere these days.
Breaker's squeak as a clear for prints.
Forensic's in the other two rooms.
How we doing in here?
Single shot to the head.
She never felt a thing.
Hey, you okay?
This kid loved ballet.
My Casey does too.
Hey.
Yeah?
You gonna take off tomorrow.
Yeah, go spend some time with your kids, go.
No, no, I'm fine, sir.
No, no, no, it's not a suggestion.
Not a suggestion, come on.
I own a gun.
38 revolver.
I have a CCW for it.
Yeah, the one in the kitchen, we have it.
It's never been fired.
We know.
You have a license to carry that around, huh?
Any other weapons we should know about?
No.
Sir, I'm Detective Cardelli.
Will you come back to the station with us?
We have some more questions to ask you.
It's routine.
Yeah take him back now.
It's fine, I got it.
Carlisle!
Hey, Cardelli.
What's the situation?
Mom and two of the kids are bagged, ready to go.
Thompson's working on the little ballerina right now
but guy's going all chick flick up there.
Come on, a little respect, please!
Listen soon as Wisper hits tail lights
tell them to start bringing the bodies down.
It's about time.
Nice and discreet.
I'm sorry, I'll have them go ninja mode for you.
Really?
Whoah, media stays outside.
But I'm not media.
I don't care who you are, you're not getting in here.
This is just an informal interview.
This is Detective Archer.
This is Detective Conlin from the Prosecutor's Department.
Oh, and Detective Thompson.
It's a big crowd in here for an informal interview.
This is just routine procedure, strictly voluntary.
However, we do appreciate your willingness to cooperate.
Look, Josiah, we're sorry about what happened
to your family.
We know this won't be easy for you.
We'll be as gentle with you as possible.
12:39 a.m., Wednesday June 8th, 2016,
interview with Josiah Wisper.
You run the Lion's Den Bar in Harlem?
I own the Lion's Den.
I also own the Oasis Bar,
three apartment buildings and a card store.
Card store?
Stationery.
I sell stationery.
A silent partner.
Do you have any trouble with any of those?
Mostly the buildings.
What kind of trouble?
Poor regulations, but I still make money.
See your family earlier today?
No.
Just yesterday.
I brought some stuff in from the city in the afternoon.
And that was the last time you saw
your entire family before tonight?
That's what I said.
Any domestic problems, Josiah?
Just the rent boy.
With your family?
No.
Marriage okay?
Sure.
Kids have any problems at school, neighbors?
We're just a happy suburban family.
And yet you bought a home
at a predominantly white neighborhood.
Purple neighborhood was all filled up.
What's your point, Detective?
Look, you're legally allowed to carry a sidearm
in this state and we have it with us for safekeeping.
Now Josiah, are there any other firearms
that you didn't mention to us about,
you know, maybe it slipped your mind earlier tonight.
Just the one I legally carry.
It was handed over to your department
out of my own free will.
I thought you said this was just an informal interview.
That's correct.
A crowd of neighbors have quickly gathered
outside the house where this terrible tragedy took place
only a short time ago.
Okay if I ask you a few questions, Mrs?
Kowalski, Irene Kowalski.
Thank you Mrs. Kowalski.
Mrs. Kowalski, how long have you known
your neighbors across the street?
Oh I don't know them really.
They only moved in about a year ago.
Are you surprised about something
like this happening here?
No, not really.
Josiah, you get along with your wife's family?
She just got a sister, Norma.
Real pain in the ass, but she's family
so I don't have much choice in the matter.
What about your family?
I've got an older brother Curtis, he's okay.
And Momma, she's still alive.
Your momma still alive?
No.
What'd you do after you left your home Monday afternoon?
My usual routine.
I drove into Harlem and made the rounds
of my businesses.
And yeah I called Alisa later,
went straight to voicemail.
Didn't think that was a problem?
She was a busy woman with her own things to do.
Continue please.
Not much else.
Caught up on paperwork and went back to the Oasis.
After I dropped off Laura
I went to meet up with Melonie at her place.
Who's Melonie?
Melonie Burton.
She manages for me sometimes.
We had to go over some estimates for repairs.
She also helps me with my outside appointments.
And?
It was late.
I didn't feel like driving back to Jersey
so I crashed at Melonie's place.
Then in the morning, I went to meet with my accountant.
What else?
Went back to Lion's Den,
did some more paperwork,
collected some rent at one of my buildings.
Went back to Lion's, I worked a few more hours
then drove home to Jersey.
With a gift for your wife.
I buy things for her from time to time.
Just what is your relation to Miss Barton?
Burton.
She's an employee, I told you.
She manages Oasis Bar.
Did you go out with her socially?
We're friends.
Friends?
Yes.
Are you having an affair with her?
We've had our times.
Your wife was aware of that?
Alisa knows.
She knew.
Was she concerned about it?
Was she concerned about anything at all?
Yeah, she wanted me to get out of the bar business.
Why was that?
The late nights, long hours.
She thought it was dangerous.
She worried about me.
She wasn't worried about you fucking other women?
She knew me before we were married.
Is Miss Barton, Miss Burton,
is she the first one you had an affair with?
No.
You sleeping around didn't bother
your wife at all?
No.
Josiah, maybe if you'd been home last night
instead of out fucking one of your friends,
maybe we wouldn't be here right now.
Did you ever consider that?
I know.
How do you think I feel?
You just don't act like a man
who just lost his entire family, that's all.
Really?
Really.
How's a man who just lost his family
supposed to act?
Look, we wanna talk with you some more, Josiah.
Where will you be the next few days?
I'd probably be staying at my momma's house.
All right, we understand.
Just leave the number and the address
with Detective Thompson.
We'll get in touch.
All right, Wisper, we're heading out back.
Don't want the press to make mincemeat out of you just yet.
Come on.
Let's get out of here.
Come on, please.
I shot a little more at the house.
How did it go in there?
They said it was an informal investigation,
that's cop talk for intimidation.
Ah, fuck!
Something ain't right.
This was a hit.
I could feel it.
They killed my family.
They wanna make me suffer.
What are we gonna do, J?
I don't know.
But I know they're coming for me next.
I'm not gonna let them do it.
From now on, we're gonna get everything.
Whatever you say, J, I'm with you.
Okay, we're here.
My whole family, gone.
How could this happen?
It was so hopeless, Mom.
Have one of these, little brother.
It'll cure anything.
What happened, man?
I don't know.
I got home.
And I found the kids.
And then I found Alisa.
I just can't understand why.
We just have to pray on it, baby.
I know you must be hungry.
Let me fix you something to eat.
No, not hungry, momma.
I'm good with this one.
They think I did it.
They're not saying it outright
but that's what they're getting to.
You know how these people are,
specially the white ones.
Curtis.
Well it's true.
I didn't do it.
I didn't do nothing.
I don't even know what I didn't do.
Too bad you weren't recording
when it happened.
A nine year old Metro girl
has a new lease on life
thanks to surgery at the,
There were no signs of a forced entry
and no evidence of a robbery.
Apparently the assailant was known by the family.
However, one source indicated to this reporter
that there are many questions about Wisper.
His quick rise from poor ghetto beginnings
to a well-to-do businessman
owning several bars and a $650,000 home.
I don't believe it.
Our sources also indicated that Wisper
may be involved in illegal lobbying, influence peddling
and possibly even drug trafficking.
That's your answer?
You hear this shit?
Josiah don't work with the man.
I can't.
You blind motherfuckers, man!
- Josiah. - Blind ass motherfuckers.
Josiah James Wisper,
get your butt back in here!
Here you are, brother.
That must be Reverend Henning.
Shit.
I know you don't wanna think about these things
right now son, but they have to be done.
No.
I don't need some pious Jesus freak
wanting to save my soul from everlasting life
of fucking sin or whatever.
I've been known to do a prayer like that
on a few auspicious occasions, brother, but,
it isn't why your mother asked me by today.
Son, this is Reverend Henning.
Apologize, Reverend.
The luminous at my church.
Can I get you something to drink, Reverend?
Lemonade, iced tea, coffee?
No, no, no, no, thank you ma'am.
You know what, I'll just have the same
as these men here.
I'm sorry.
Does that thing have to be on?
Yes.
And,
You must be Josiah.
That's me, Reverend.
This is my big brother Curtis.
Josiah.
I'll get that drink.
Hey.
I'm very sorry about your family.
Your mother's already told me quite a bit.
And I understand your feelings.
I don't think anyone can right now, Reverend.
It's true, you know.
No one ever can, right?
May I call you Josiah?
You already did.
Everybody calls me J.
J.
J, look.
J, I've never found it easy.
I've never found it easy to help someone
at a time like this.
So I won't pretend.
But some decisions,
some decisions have to be made.
And I'm here to help you as much as possible.
I appreciate that, Reverend.
I do want my family to have a proper funeral.
But I don't want crying and amens
and any other tearjerking crap.
Just something dignified and quiet
and for momma and our friends.
I hear you.
Thank you, Curtis.
I hear you.
A77, turn here.
You okay, momma?
Curtis, Curtis.
You all right?
I'm fine.
Here it is.
You're okay?
Thanks.
So sorry.
- Thanks. - God bless you.
Keep it moving.
Deepest sympathy, I'm very sorry.
Thanks.
I'm so sorry.
You go ahead in line, there's enough there.
Got it.
Watch yourself, J.
Sunday, June 12th 2016, 3:25 p.m.
Three lives and you swear them,
that's the kind of relation?
Really, motherfucker?
He didn't say that.
He didn't say that to me.
J's good people.
He's always been good to me.
But like I said, he's the boss.
Do you understand?
Yeah.
So last night he rolled up in here.
He's beat, started tasting the bottle.
Said he was going home, asked me to close up.
I close up on him.
Willy.
We're in New York City jurisdiction now.
Detective Cardelli is here courtesy
of my commanding officer.
And my partner, he's attending the funeral.
So we appreciate your cooperation
but we both have more questions.
Shoot.
Willy, did you ever see your boss
with a small gun, like
a pocket pistol?
Let's see.
J had a 38.
Called it his sister.
If he was carrying a lot of money on him,
he's walking with his sister.
He intended on keeping his money.
Willy, have you yourself
been in trouble with the law?
Kids stuff.
Yeah?
Shit kids get into trouble for.
All kids get into trouble
before they graduate from high school.
Like?
Stealing a car.
You know, taking something from the five and dime,
no real shit.
You know, we can check records.
Do what you need to do.
I got someplace else I need to be.
Appreciate you helping me out on this.
Look, I owe you for Bergman.
TV lights are gonna spread out
on both sides of the river on this one.
It can be a boost for both of us
instead of drowning in the usual flood of shit.
Just one thing though.
Wisper's still paranoid.
Like there's someone still out there
trying to finish the job.
Is it real?
Has to be.
This whole neighborhood is paranoid.
Look, time will tell.
I'll be in touch.
You bet, I hope so.
You could turn this fucking thing off now.
June 20th, 2016, 10:25 a.m.
Second interview with Josiah Wisper.
Thanks for coming in again.
Before we begin, I wanna ask you
are you sure you wanna appear here
without an attorney?
I'm sure.
Can you tell me more about that night
with Miss Burton?
Sure.
The night you spent with Miss Burton,
were you in each other's company the entire night?
Yes.
Sure you didn't leave her side
maybe when she fell asleep?
I'm sure.
Did you stop by your home on your way to Miss Burton?
No, I told you.
And your wife knew where you were?
Because of the nature of my business
and the hours I keep,
sometimes I stay in the city, sometimes with friends.
And that didn't concern her at all?
No.
Except when it would cause me to miss
one of my kids' school events.
Sorry guys.
Paperwork.
We were just discussing your wife's reaction
to you staying out of town overnight.
Yeah, you guys argue about that sort of thing?
You know, about you staying out all night?
I told you.
For the most part, Alisa was cool
with that side of my life.
Must have been some sort of superwoman, right?
To have your wife be okay
with your nighttime proclivities.
We should bring her in here and probably ask her.
Oh wait we can't, 'cause she's dead.
Go fuck yourself, Detective.
Look, Josiah, we appreciate you coming in.
We're just trying to sort this out,
find the pieces that fit.
Okay some of this may sound outlandish to you
but I assure you it's necessary.
Okay, New York's doing their part in Harlem.
We are gonna solve this case.
I hope so.
Oh we will.
We're gonna talk some more to you
and everyone else involved.
We're gonna turn this thing inside out
until we learn the truth, okay?
So I hope you've been truthful with us, Josiah.
And if not, I suggest you start being straight with me,
do you understand?
I hear you.
I'm standing here with Debra Casale.
Miss Casale, did you know the Wispers well?
I really didn't know them that well.
He was always with that camera taping his children and such.
He taped me too.
Did you have any concerns with a bar owner
and potential drug dealer living next to you
and your family?
- Well. - Shut it off.
- I was a little concerned. - Not you.
Brother.
We never imagined he could be a drug dealer.
I mean this is a nice neighborhood,
I never thought they would hurt us.
Can you go up the city tomorrow?
- You okay? - Sure, what you got?
Uh huh.
Cops wanna talk to Melonie
and I need you to be there to get it.
How'd you swing that?
You're not a suspect and we're hiding the camera.
This is her address.
They'll be there at two.
I'll be there at one.
There's some other people you wanna get
but we'll get to that later.
Is the gun still in safekeeping?
I'll be scarce.
Won't be needing it.
All right , let's get to it.
Nice couch.
You sure this is gonna help J?
It can't hurt.
He's starting to relax a little bit
so we should really try to take advantage.
Don't look at the camera.
Looking at it or even toward it
is gonna attract attention, okay?
Yeah, okay.
Come in and have a seat.
Can I get you some coffee, Detective?
Or a drink?
- No thanks. - I'll take some coffee.
Never mind.
No thank you, Miss Burton.
Presumably it is Miss?
It'll do.
I'm divorced.
Miss Burton, I would like to ask you
some questions about the night
that you were with Josiah.
Go ahead.
Now Miss Burton,
you and Josiah came here
directly from his child's birthday party.
Now he didn't happen to leave this house
to go anywhere for say, I don't know
a nightcap or a cup of coffee?
Or a stop in Jersey to kill his family?
I didn't say that.
I know what you meant, Detective Rothstein.
Sorry, Rothstein.
No, he came straight here from the party.
He came in, stopped at the front door,
hung out here in the living room
and then we went straight to bed
and I fucked his brains out.
Is that what you wanted to know?
We had breakfast in the morning and then he left.
It was about what, nine o'clock.
He had a 10 o'clock meeting with his accountant.
And neither of you left here at all
during the night, together or separately?
No.
How many times do I have to tell you that, no.
You know, you give him a very strong alibi.
Do you think he needs one?
No, not in the least.
Gives you a strong one too.
What?
Makes me wonder if you need one.
Why?
Is there a law against fucking?
I hope you had a good fourth.
I see you cleaned the place up a bit.
Been here before?
You know if you feel more comfortable, we can go...
No come on, let's get this over with.
All right.
About your sister Alisa,
what's your relationship?
I mean we wasn't exactly alike, as you can see.
She's the more successful one,
always driven to rise above it all.
And she did too.
And look where it got her.
So you and Alisa, very close?
I mean we was close enough as sisters could be
but we did our own thing too.
When was the last time you saw her?
When he brought that video ho to the house.
So no time between in,
Look.
I got a life too, I can't be worried
about everybody else!
One of the neighbors spotted you June 5th.
God.
Lord they nobody but their damn nosy ass
Italian bitch Mrs. Casale.
Yeah I was there.
I needed to see Alisa.
I went over there that morning but
nobody was home.
Well what about?
Damn, you all in my business.
I needed to borrow some money.
So did you borrow money from the Wispers very often?
Not the Wispers, Alisa.
She always looked out for me
and slid me a little something.
But Wisper?
He don't give a damn about nobody but his damn self.
So you don't get along with Josiah?
Look, junior Detective.
I can get along with anybody.
But Wisper?
He always looking down on me
like I'm trash or something.
When he this close to being trash himself.
Like what kind of grown ass man
walks around with a camera following him all the time
like he about to be on the news or something?
He's reckless.
And I bet you he filmed his affairs too.
But Alisa?
Alisa got a heart.
She always looked out for me and for her friends.
Man, we done here?
Yeah.
Don't call me back down here no more.
You ready, Kenny?
Yup.
Tuesday July 12th, 2016, 2:35 p.m.
Clara, Josiah asked me to canvas the neighborhood
to just document some thoughts and comments,
anything you feel like sharing, you know.
Anything.
I remember the detectives told me
I shouldn't talk to anyone.
He meant the news people.
He did mention them.
The last time you saw Alisa?
It was two days before it happened.
How was she, like her normal self?
No she wasn't.
She was very upset.
Her husband being in the city so much,
that upset her a lot.
But on that day, she was much worse.
How?
She used to say that these things bother her.
She mean her husband?
We used to meet up and talk.
On that particular day,
I just don't know how to say this.
Take your time Clara, it's okay.
I remember telling her that she has to
go with the flow and not to let things
bother her so much.
And then she said there were times.
Times when?
How she wondered how it would be
if her husband would come back home
to a empty house.
I gotta go.
If her husband would come back home to an empty house.
Yeah, she'd threatened to take the kids
away from me.
Run off to her mom's and Norma's.
There's nowhere she can go that I wouldn't find them.
It was Alisa just mouthing off.
Follow me.
You sure you won't reconsider?
I'll make some things happen and Oasis is yours.
Thanks J, but it's better this way.
They're gonna find out the truth
and this will all be over.
But people will always be people.
Do you want me to say this, hmm?
They will always remember that I was your alibi
and the Oasis, that was my reward.
No, I'm sorry.
That's not the truth.
Yeah, whatever.
Whatever?
Nothing.
It's that night, isn't it?
You were gone for a long time!
Baby, I told you,
it's something I ate was tearing up my guts.
I had to find a drugstore.
But I lied about it, okay?
What if they find out?
They will not find out!
I was looking for a damn drugstore!
Look, I know where I was.
Where were you?
You're staying around, aren't you?
I'm going to my sister's upstate.
But,
No, it's got to be this way, all right?
Look, we had some good times.
But it's over now.
You let me down, J.
I'll miss you.
No you won't, please.
You don't miss anybody.
Shut it off.
Shut it off!
There he is.
July 20th 2016, 8:43 or so.
Hey It's early.
Still shooting, I see, yeah.
Where's your pretty camera girl?
Just me, Reverend.
Yeah?
Not fond of the gym?
Oh, I like the fresh air.
You should get up participate once in a while.
I think I'm participating enough right now, thanks.
Well look, thanks for meeting me.
So tell me, how's it been going?
Good, good.
Son of a bitch is finally letting me take
a lie detector test.
Yeah, and?
All good.
J, J, that's great.
Now I just need to get them to believe me.
There might be a way.
All right, I've got an idea.
Maybe a way.
Yeah, sure.
You find the tall building, I climb to the top of it
and scream at the top of my lungs,
"I didn't fucking do it!"
Ah yeah, something like that.
But look.
I'm gonna be honest with you,
there aren't many miracles left anymore.
But I might have found one.
A friend of mine runs a radio station.
You could bring that camera.
Sound good?
Reverend, at this point,
I'm willing to try anything.
Bless you, brother, have a good day.
- Thanks. - Okay.
You too.
Hey, J, my brother.
Hey, Reverend Henning.
Thanks for coming.
Thanks for setting this up, man.
- Absolutely. - Appreciate it.
Hi, I'm Caroline, the production manager.
- How you doing? - Nice to meet you.
Josiah Wisper.
- Nice to meet you. - Reverend Henning, pleasure.
Pleasure.
Right this way.
Thanks for having me here.
Welcome.
So Caroline, how long you been working here?
About six months.
Oh nice.
Yeah.
Laura, she's my camera person.
She's kinda documenting everything.
Do you mind if she comes here with us?
It's best she doesn't come in.
Sure, do you mind if I have her
just stay outside right here?
- Sure that's fine. - Okay.
All right just set up right there,
make sure you stay on me, get all this, okay?
Okay.
All right, in here?
Yeah, right in here.
Hi, Timolyn.
Pleasure, Josiah Wisper.
- Thanks for having me. - Pleasure.
Nice to meet you.
Thanks for having me on your show.
Sure, just sit right here.
Right here?
Reverend Henning, pleasure.
Nice to meet you too.
I've never been in one of these before.
I'm a little nervous.
It's not so bad.
Good morning and welcome to Urban Report.
I am Timolyn Moore and I'll be your host
for the next hour.
This morning we have a very distinguished guest with us,
Mr. Josiah Wisper.
May I call you Josiah?
Josiah, you will recall is a very successful
Harlem tavern owner who returned home recently
to find his wife and children brutally murdered,
all shot dead by a mysterious unknown assailant.
First, Josiah, welcome.
Thanks.
Thank you very much for joining us on our show.
Thank you for having me.
Josiah, I'd like to start out by asking a question
that's on everyone's mind.
Did you murder your family?
J, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Come on, come on, come on.
Look, I'm really sorry about that.
I wasn't expecting her to say that, I'm sorry.
Sorry, she's not her sensitive self today.
Yeah, but I'm used to it now.
Look, it's not your fault, I'll call you.
Come on, let's just get out of here.
It's a waste of my fucking time.
We're trying very hard.
You ain't helping much.
I've put up a $5,000 reward.
I know.
But everything's a dead end.
Look, we know you passed the polygraph
but we still can't prove where you was at that night.
Now it's too bad you weren't recording yourself.
I've told you a dozen times.
And the lady backed you up.
What's the problem?
You're backing each other up.
It's not like you have a witness.
We weren't into threesomes.
Let's talk about drugs.
Harlem's busted a lot of drugs in your bar.
That's a major dent in illicit revenue.
I hope so.
I busted my ass tipping off the authorities too.
Whoah, whoah, whoah, wait, wait, wait.
You helped the department on those arrests?
They never told you?
What have we got here, two separate investigations?
Y'all don't talk to each other?
What happens, whoever solves the Wisper murder
gets a big fucking medal?
All right, all right,
it's just something we weren't informed of.
Christ, I could run this investigation
better than both of your departments.
Don't even think about meddling.
Thank you, but any information I find out
in regards to my family's murder,
I don't consider meddling.
Just don't interfere.
Interfere?
As long as we've got two police departments
acting like two separate countries,
why shouldn't I interfere?
That reward is the only constructive thing
going on in this case.
You get your shit together
or by damn I will interfere.
I want these murders solved,
I want them solved!
So do we, Josiah.
So do we!
Then do it.
Let's see what they have this time.
All right, come on.
You know where Josiah is?
In the back.
Bravo gentlemen, you finally talk to each other.
Come on in.
That drug thing was a communication problem.
We apologize.
Right.
Can we sit?
Please, by all means.
As you see we're not exactly at full capacity.
I got your message, how'd it go?
How did what go?
The setup, the sting.
Oh yeah it was a week ago, last Wednesday.
Yeah, we heard it was Number Uno,
or one of his dealers that did your family
for the problems you caused them.
Yeah, I know that.
Yeah we did it at Sweet's Tavern.
Yeah we did it at Sweet's Tavern near Broadway, okay?
We had to catch him in something so
we knew he wasn't at the New York Place.
So why didn't you just bring him in?
He had to do something first.
Look, Josiah, we're here as a courtesy, you know that?
So the word on the street was that he did it
or he ordered it and knew the guy who did it.
So we set him up with a informant who was wired.
He was to walk in and you know, start a conversation,
get him to talk
and hopefully he'll implicate himself on tape.
We paid this informant $6,000 cash.
So what's your point?
He walked in the front door of the bar
and walked out the back door, ripped off the wire
and ran away.
You know this guy who did, the snitch, right?
He's gone Josiah, he's gone.
We don't know where he is.
Uno's gone too.
What are you thinking?
I'm thinking if somebody gave you guys
a bag of five dollar bills to hand out on the corner,
you'd find a way to fuck it up.
Glad you're all so intent.
I want my gun back.
Your what?
My gun.
I want my gun back.
I'm no longer a suspect, as you said
and you've had more than enough time to check it out.
I know, I know you're right, it's clean.
Cardelli.
That is my gun.
I'm legally licensed to carry it.
I use it for my protection
from whoever did this to my family,
from Uno, even from you.
Hah, from us?
Hah, really?
Really.
Rothstein.
Why do you think my people are still around
after the haters been trying to get us
for hundreds of years?
'Cause we're forgiving?
No.
It's because we're packing.
Maybe there'd be a lot more of your people, Rothstein
if the Jews in Germany
had acted a little bit less like Jews
and a little bit more like Israelis.
I want my gun back.
- I want it back! - How dare you.
Get the fuck out of my bar, you're done.
These gentlemen are done here, Willy.
September 12th 2016, 4:26 p.m.
Lil Bro, you sure know how to find fucking trouble.
Ain't like I look for it.
So where were you for the past two days?
You boys want some coffee?
Don't take but a minute to fix a fresh pot.
No.
No thanks, momma.
You sure?
Nah, I'm okay.
If you change your mind, I'm right here.
Okay.
Does she have to fuckin be here?
She's getting everything I do.
You didn't answer my question.
Everything?
That's bullshit.
The bullshit's why she's here.
What do you mean by that, huh?
She's setting the record straight.
If you kept everything straight,
you wouldn't need no camera taking it.
Curtis, why you always busting my ass about something?
Why you pissed off, huh?
What is it that piss you?
Is it because I'm successful?
That I got a beautiful home in Jersey
or I got a little piece on the side?
Where were you for the last two days?
I'll tell you.
When you turn off the camera, I'll tell you.
Okay, I went upstate.
I had to get away.
Stop looking at me like that.
For Christ's sakes, Josiah.
You had a good wife and family.
Why'd you step on them like that all the time?
That's really fucking up.
Fucking up huh?
Fucking up?
At least I had a family
and I took damn good care of 'em.
How many you ran through, what,
you been with one, two, three wives?
With your holy shit on Sunday
and your face in a barrel of scotch
the rest of the week?
I know Cardelli wanted to speak to you
and you wanted to speak to him.
So where the fuck did you go?
What the difference between me and you,
is when you stepped out, you got your wife killed,
my two nieces, my nephew.
Bravo, bravo,
- big brother. - No.
- You fuckup. - Would you stop that
racket right now, hear me?
Right now!
Momma.
It's already made.
Might as well have some.
Lordy!
I tried to bring up two good boys.
Lord knows I did.
And look at both of you.
You never grew up to be good men.
You Curtis, drinking your way
through two good women!
And you Josiah, shaming your family
the way you done, what is wrong with the two of you?!
I just buried my grandbabies
and the two of you are bickering like five year olds!
It's time to grow up!
Enough, enough, enough.
All right.
September 16, 2016, seven p.m.
Melonie's sister's house.
Stay hidden.
Sure.
What?
Why, J, what are you doing here?
I was wondering how you was doing.
Guess I'm doing okay.
Really nice out here.
Look, I was doing something, all right?
Please, it's cold out here.
We're not done.
J, what do you want?
That night, when I went out
to the drugstore, remember?
Yeah.
When I got back, you were gone.
Where'd you go?
Out to do some killing, hmm?
Don't look around.
Ain't nobody to help.
That what you did?
No, no, I didn't do nothing like that.
Look I didn't go do no killing.
Okay.
And?
I had the same thing happen as you did.
And you were gone.
I had to go out and get something
and I was almost out of gas.
That's why it took so long.
Then why didn't you say so?
'Cause I was your alibi.
And if I wasn't there, well,
then I couldn't tell anyone.
But they had you already.
J, what happened to the girl at the drugstore?
She could vouch for you.
I told you, when I went back,
they said she quit, she was gone!
Look.
As soon as I solve this,
I will make it up to you.
I'm sorry I got you involved.
Goodbye.
September 21st, 2016, 5:33 p.m.
You're pretty good at that.
I'm good at a lot of things.
Hustling pool got me through college.
Took a lot of balls to get my Master's
before I was able to get on my feet.
Want a beer?
I'm on duty.
Not in this state you're not.
I'm still on duty.
So all this started out as a hobby?
Pretty much.
Until I could quit.
So what brings you back?
Rusty.
Haven't heard you made any arrests yet.
Nope.
You need some pretty solid evidence for that.
And we don't have it.
So Uno gets off?
Maybe I should take care of him myself.
Don't even go there, J.
So what do you have?
A theory.
Theory?
A theory won't buy you crap.
Oh it's a believable one.
We just can't prove it.
For Christ's sakes Cardelli,
all this time and all you got
is a theory that you can't even prove?
J, the bullets were from a 32 caliber pistol.
Yeah it's a light round.
But a well placed shot can put a grown man out.
Now we figured the shooting took place
in the dead of night,
walls cut out most of the sound,
neighbors slept through the whole thing.
Now ballistics match our hunch.
Now there was no one outside your house that night,
no activity whatsoever.
No people, no cars.
And we interviewed a bunch of your neighbors
and we were really surprised at the amount
of information we got.
Not surprising, the neighbors always poking around.
Well, with all that and the crime scene evidence,
what happened that night originated
and was contained inside that house.
How?
It was an inside job, Wisper.
So now you're back to me.
I told you...
Not you.
No, Alisa?
And then turned the gun on herself at the end.
Powder residue on her right hand backs up that theory.
No, Alisa, she didn't own no gun.
Yeah you know, it's a felony
to own an unlicensed firearm in New Jersey,
but come on, if she wanted to get one.
There was no gun at the sink.
And that's where it all falls apart.
No gun, no case.
But how?
They had a key.
No, no, no, nobody had a key.
Except Norma.
Nope.
We can't prove that either.
Some church ladies vouched for her.
They said that she was with them
overnight at some kind of gathering.
It's hard to believe.
Yeah, it's the only one that fits.
And one other thing.
You are no longer a person of interest, officially.
So now you believe what I told you
in the first place.
Unfortunately, yes.
Unfortunately?
You know, I just wish we could have had
a camera set up that night
the way you got your camera.
Case closed.
But that's just a fantasy.
What?
I will be in touch with you shortly.
Let's go, come on.
Ready J.
All right, let's see what we got.
Okay.
What do we got here?
All right, what do you see?
What?
Oh god.
What, what?
No.
Oh god.
Oh my god.
No!
No, no!
Why would you, it's our kids!
Fuck, no!
Manny, Manny, Manny.
Josiah, slow down.
If the camera bothers him,
shut it off when I tell you, don't.
I want to hear what he has to say.
Got it.
Manny, Manny!
J, it's been a while.
Yes it has, Manny, yes it has.
Sorry about your family, man.
What's that for?
It's a little side project I got going on.
Do you mind?
No, I don't mind.
Is that what brings you here?
Partly, I need a piece.
Flavor?
Small enough to hick, large enough to kill.
Right over here.
Nine mill.
It has a good feel.
You can use that at home, for defense.
Bedside table.
Felt good.
Hard to tell the difference.
Nothing but the best, baby.
I see.
You got anybody in here
trying to unload a piece recently?
All the time, man.
But I only get the quality.
Something small, fits in a purse, handbag.
Something a chick would use.
I don't know.
I get all kinds of sellers.
Look at me, Manny.
Shut if off, Laura.
Okay.
Answer me.
We've been friends a long time.
Answer me, Manny.
A while back I was closing up
and some woman come in
wanting to unload a piece.
Said she needed some money.
She offered it up just like you described.
She didn't have no paperwork or nothing.
Wanted cash up front.
The thing is,
What, Manny?
I recognized that weapon.
How?
It was the gun I sold your wife.
Man Alisa came in here one day
worried out of her mind,
said you're never home and she's getting threatening calls.
Asked whether or not I'd help her.
Discreetly.
You sold her an unregistered gun?
Man, we're from the streets.
Law and order ain't exactly around every corner.
This woman tried to sell the gun,
what did she look like?
I mean, I don't know.
I ran her ass out of here.
She took the gun with her.
Didn't leave a name.
That gun's untraceable, man, I left it at that.
Nothing, you remember nothing?
Man, my mind is shit.
That's why I got these security cameras installed.
I can play it back for you if you want.
That'll help, right?
Yes it would.
Please.
Goddamit, Norma.
Norma, open up.
Open up, Norma!
Norma, how did you get that gun?
I don't know what you're talking about.
You know damn what the fuck I'm talking about.
How did you get Alisa's gun?
I told you, asshole.
I fucking told you.
Get your fucking house in order.
No, no, no.
You had that fucking gun.
She knew about everything I was fucking doing
from the fucking beginning.
That don't mean that she fucking approved of that shit!
I don't wanna hear that shit.
How'd you get that gun?
Did you take it from my house?
Did you kill my fucking family?
Yeah I got it from your damn house.
You killed your fucking...
Nah I didn't kill my fucking family,
I went in there and it was laying in there
next to her dead body on the kitchen floor!
Now come on, let's go.
I'm not going no fucking where with you!
You're coming with me so we can straighten
this shit out.
I'm not telling nobody nothing.
Besides, who gonna believe me anyway?
Where'd you put the gun?
Huh, you try to sell that shit, huh?
God knows I need money.
But I could never sell that gun.
That was my sister, Wisper!
You did that shit!
You killed her.
- Come on. - She may have pulled
- that trigger, - Come on.
But you did that shit,
you killed your own fucking family!
Fuck you Josiah, fuck you too,
get the fuck outta here!
It was all my fault.
She could have just told me to stop.
I didn't do nothing.
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