我要去找他们 I'm going to them.
黑色的 Black.
我是一个歌手 I'm a singer.
我是一个 I'm the one.
嗯 Um,
所以我们认为 So we think that.
作为人 我们很自然 As people, we very naturally.
关注事件的变化 增量或结局 很多人看了25年 然后我们就有了生意 Focus on changes of events, deltas or endings. And a lot of people look at twenty five years, and then we got a business.
二十六岁 In your twenty six.
这就像是 他们做错了什么问题是对的吗 And and it's kind of like, well, what did they do wrong Is the question right?
不好意思 二十五年来 我们做对了什么 Like, I'm sorry, twenty five years, what did we do right.
歌手 Singer.
我为什么喜欢节奏和巨大 大多数情况下 是人 不是公司 是 What do I love about rhythm and huge? Mostly, the people, it's not corporate, it's, it's very.
很熟悉 我们搬进了我们的第一个房子 我和我丈夫因为我丈夫也在这里工作 约翰·尤斯是帮我们搬东西的人之一 Familiar, we moved into our first house, my husband and I because my husband worked here, too. John Use is one of the people who helped us move our stuff.
我想我们的第一个合同实际上是一个电影标志 那是在1987年 那时计算机还没有那么快 I think our our first contract was actually a film logo, so that was back in Nineteen eighty seven, and computers weren't all that fast.
然后就没有办法输出了 所以我们只能把它拍成胶片 And then there was no way of outputting it, so we had to shoot it to film.
我们只是想要得到一些东西 任何能让我们继续工作的东西 能够互相支付工资 制作计算机图形 We are just trying to get something, anything to keep us employed and be able to pay each other and make computer graphic.
我认为主要的统一因素是我们将角色动画视为一种长期的未来 I think the majority of the unifying factor was that we saw character animation as kind of a long term future.
我看着我们做的一些工作 我只是不知道我们是怎么做到的 你知道 对我来说 这就是魔法 I look at some of the work we do, and I just don't know how we do it, you know, to me, it's just magic.
对老虎的研究或者我们做的其他事情的研究 简直难以置信 Work that goes into the tiger or some of the other things we do, it's just it's beyond belief.
作为一个动画师 我只是喜欢它的创造力 我可以拿一块白板 创造一个表演 我没有什么 As an animator, I just like the creativity of it, I can take a blank slate and create a performance. I have nothing.
他们就像 你知道的 音乐会音乐家 音乐会钢琴家在洛杉矶爱乐和声演奏 他们是游戏中的佼佼者 They're like, you know, concert musicians, concert pianists that are playing at the L-A Phil harmony. They're the top of their game.
在我们的巅峰 我们的巅峰 如此令人兴奋 我想 我们所有人 在一天结束的时候 At our peak, our pinnacle, so exciting, all of us, I think, at the end of the day are.
被驱使去创造 这是真正让我们兴奋和驱使我们的东西 Driven to create, and that's what really gets us excited and what drives us.
挑战在于 在很多情况下 这可能会占上风 或者至少会影响你的判断 The challenge with that is that in many cases that can take over, or at least it can cloud your judgment.
你需要投入更多的时间 因为你想要做更多的事 作为一名美术师 你需要尽你所能去推动事情的发展 You're going to put in extra hours because you want to go the extra mile, and you're going to try to push things as far as you can as an artist.
即使是项目 Even if the project.
而这个项目的资金并不要求或促进这种情况的发生 And the money for that project do not require or facilitate that happening.
我 I
你好 Hello,
现在没人是为了钱而做这件事了 也许在某种程度上是这样 但他们不再是为了钱而做了 人们做这些是因为他们喜欢做 这就是我做这些的原因 Nobody's doing this for the money anymore, maybe they were at some point, but they're not doing it for the money anymore. People are doing it because they love doing it, which is why I do it.
它不是由电脑完成的 而是由很多人完成的 有很多人在后台夜以继日地工作来获得项目 It's not done by the computer, it's, it's done by a lot of people, and there's a lot of people in the background working away night and day to get the projects.
哦 Uh,
我们 作为视觉效果艺术家和视觉效果公司不 We, as visual effects artist and as visual effects companies do not.
参与这些电影的利润 Participate in the profit of any of those films.
视觉效果业务现在是一个支离破碎的业务模式 而唯一的人 The visual effects business is a is a broken business model right now, and the only people who.
在这个行业中 在电影行业中 似乎是那些有利润参与的人 Thrive in this industry, in the movie industry, seem to be folks who have profit participation.
在20 12开始的时候 我们知道我们必须筹集资金 我去过中国四次 At the beginning of 20:12, we knew that we had to raise money. I made four trips to China.
你知道 我去过台湾几次 去过香港几次 You know, I visited Taiwan a couple times, hong Kong a couple times.
我们雇了一个投资银行家 听到了一些谣言 你在走廊里听到的东西 一些窃窃私语 We hired an investment banker, hear a little rumors, you hear things in the hallways, little whispers.
你听到这个了吗你听到那个了吗 Have you heard this Have you heard that.
这让你头晕目眩 就像所有可能发生的假设 但你不知道 20个月的延迟 Uh, it just gets your mind reeling, like all the hypotheticals of what could be going on, but you don't know, twenty months of delays at.
每月120万到160万美元 大约是2400万到3000万美元 Between 1.2 to 1.6 million per month, that's anywhere from twenty four to thirty million dollars.
我们不得不承担的额外费用 Of additional costs that we had to take on.
其他的项目应该让人们参与到这个项目中 而这个项目在所有这些被推迟的项目中被推迟了 Other projects were supposed to take the people onto that project, and that project got to delayed in all these projects getting delayed.
让你陷入非常非常糟糕的境地 你知道吗 我准备好了 Puts you in a really, really bad situation. You know, I was prepared to, uh,
卖出 卖出我的股票 只要一美元 如果有人愿意投资我们需要的一千五百万到两千万美元 Sell, sell my shares of stock for a dollar, if somebody would invest the fifteen to twenty million dollars that we needed.
然后我们有了一个退出的投资者 在最后一秒 我们 And then we had investor standing by who fell out. At the last second, we had.
电汇信息 这里的银行账户信息 给我们一个银行 会提交 你知道 你的钱在周一早上到哪里 Wire transfer information, bank account information here, give us a bank and will submit, you know, where are you this money By Monday morning.
到了周末 我们就会想 太好了 这很好 我们要把钱拿进去 因为所有的东西都签好了 周一来的时候 钱还没到 然后我们破产了 And over the weekend we're like, okay, great, this is good. We're going to get the money in, because everything's been signed, and come Monday, the money just didn't show up. And then we went bankrupt.
歌手 Singer.
这并不是要把工作室塑造成坏人或者其他类似的东西只是我们建立这个业务的模式是有缺陷的 It's not to make the studios out to be the bad guys or anything like that is just the model of how we have set up this business is is flawed.
我们只需要1000万美元便能够创造500张图表 We build 500 charts safe for ten million dollars or so, and that's what it is.
会根据合同而上升 然后有时候事情就变了 电影制作并不是一门精确的科学 Will higher up based on the contract, and then sometimes things just change. The making of a movie is not a precise science.
在电影制作过程中会出现一些创造性的问题 There are creative issues in a movie as it's being done.
在后期制作过程中 有时甚至在拍摄过程中 电影开始演变 During the post production process, and sometimes even during shooting, the movie starts to evolve.
如果电影延长 If the movie extends.
我们突然间不得不工作三个月 或者更多 或者更多四个月 从电影公司的角度来看 他们付了他1000万美元来拍500个镜头 And we suddenly have to work for three months, more or four months more. From the studios perspective, they paid his ten million dollars for 500 shots.
但从节奏和用户的角度来看 现在我们要为这些艺术家多支付三个月的费用 而我们必须继续支付他们的薪水 But from rhythm and users perspective, now we're paying for the same artists for three more months that we have to continue paying their salaries.
除了自己掏腰包之外 没有其他收入来源 所以我们的选择是减薪 There's no other source of revenue other than coming out of within, use its own pockets. So our choices were to cut people salaries.
或者停止工作 Or to lay off.
相当多的人 Significant number of people.
或者 通过重组他们的合同 让他们加班而不付加班费 Or to, um, work people over time without paying them for overtime by restructuring their contracts?
所以这些改变是非常困难的改变 我感受到了其中的任何一种 So those kinds of changes are very difficult changes to make, and I felt at any one of those.
会发生翻天覆地的变化 Would have so dramatically altered.
韵律和休斯的文化被他们摧毁了 节奏和休斯 The the culture of Rhythm and Hughes that they would have destroyed. Rhythm And Hughes.
但是 你知道 我们已经破产了 所以 And well, you know, instead we're in bankruptcy, so.
我最终破坏了节奏和使用 所以你知道 也许我应该 I ended up destroying rhythm and use anyway. So you know, maybe I should have.
做了一些类似的事情来保持节奏 和他的 Done something along those lines in order to have tried to preserve rhythm. And his.
歌手 Singer.
我们必须追求一个价格点 We've had to chase a price point.
这个数字下降得非常快 That's been dropping very rapidly.
原因是 我的价格一直在下跌 最根本的原因是 嗯 And the reason, the prices I've been dropping quite a bit on that, the fundamental reasons, really, is, um,
加拿大 英国和其他地方的电影公司都有税收补贴决定了这个一千万美元的项目 The tax subsidies that are being provided in in Canada and the UK and other places of a studio decides this, a ten million dollar project.
他们想接管温哥华并把它授予一家加拿大公司 They want to take over to say Vancouver and award it to a Canadian company.
这家加拿大公司将出价一千万美元 The Canadian company will bid it at ten million dollars.
但是电影公司得到了300万美元的退税 所以这部电影唯一能被考虑的办法就是出价700万美元 But the studio gets say, three million dollars back as a tax rebate, so the only way even get considered for that film is to bid it at seven million dollars.
所以我们现在做同样的工作得到的钱更少了 And so we're now getting less money for the same amount of work.
所以 电影制片厂告诉我们 视觉效果设备是如果你想要这部作品 And so, the Motion picture studios told, the visual effects facility is that if you want to get this work.
你必须在温哥华做 在那里你要花10万美元来建一个工厂 You have to do it in Vancouver, where you're spending 1000001000005 building a facility there.
当然 另一个国家或地区会说 哦 好吧 这是个好主意 我们将这样做 我们要拿回我们的钱 And of course what happens is another country or region, state says, oh, well, that's a good idea. We'll do that. We'll take our money.
我们会从纳税人那里拿走 然后交给电影制片厂 And we'll take it from our taxpayers, and we'll give that to the movie studios.
然后 当然 所有这些人现在都去了另一个地方 因为这些州和国家没有意识到 And then, of course, all those people now go to this other place, because what the the states and the countries don't realize is.
每部电影 他们都会看最便宜的地方 Every movie, they take a look at what's the cheapest place.
所以你搬到了温哥华 在那里找了个房子住了9个月或一年 然后最终被解雇了 So you move to Vancouver, find a house live there for about nine months or a year, and then ultimately wind up getting laid off.
在洛杉矶真好 Oh, it is good to be in L-A.
这是美国的经济引擎之一 成千上万的中产阶级就业机会 This is one of America's economic engines, hundreds of thousands of middle class jobs.
在电影 电视和音乐方面 没有比美国更好的地方了 There's still no better place to make movies in television and music than right here in the United States.
娱乐是我们经济的亮点之一 Entertainment is one of the bright spots of our economy.
这意味着我们必须尽一切努力确保这个行业 以及每一个伟大的美国行业保持竞争优势 And that means that we've got to do what it takes to make sure that this industry, and every great American industry keeps that competitive edge.
这样更多的人就可以找到职业道路 就像你们中的许多人一样 So that more folks can find career paths, like many of you have.
找一份好的中产阶级工作 让你能养家糊口 取得成功 And get good middle class jobs that allow you to support a family and get ahead.
我和我的一些同志过着一样的生活 我在Facebook上开了一个名为像素吉普赛人的主页 I lived the life of what, uh, some of my comrades, and started a Facebook page called a Pixel Gypsy.
这并不是说我没有足够的能力在某个地方停留一段时间 而是从来没有一个持续的时间 我一直在 You know, and it's not that I've never been good enough to land somewhere for the duration, is that there never is a duration. I've been on the staff of.
五家视觉效果商店都因出色的作品而闻名 但都破产了 大部分都欠了艺术家的钱 Five visual effect shops that were really well known in amazing work that all went bankrupt, most of them owing the artist money.
你总是在追逐哪个政府会给电影公司最大的回报 You're constantly on the go chasing which government's going to give the greatest handout back to the studios.
过去几年 我习惯了只住酒店 觉得住酒店简单多了 我的行李箱是专门为我的汽车后备箱设计的 所有的层都在里面 I've taken to just living in hotels past few years, find it's a lot simpler. I got suitcases that were designed to fit in the trunk of my car, and all layers in there.
也许效果 Maybe effects.
我有一张特大号的床 我的房间里有一个按摩浴缸 我还有那些小肥皂 它们让我感觉我每天都在度假 我喜欢使用这些小肥皂 所以当你打开它们时 它们就是那种感觉 I got a king size bed, I got a jacuzzi in my room, I have those little soaps that make me feel like I'm on vacation every day, and I love using those little soaps, so that's the way they feel when you open them up.
节奏 休斯就像我生命中的新女孩 我又恋爱了 你懂我的意思吗 Rhythm, and Hughes was like a new girl in my life. I fell in love again, you know what I mean?
然后在周五的会议上 我心碎了 就像我曾经无数次的心碎一样 现在我只是有点上瘾了 Then at a Friday meeting, I had my heart broken, just like I have a million times, and now I'm just this kind of strung out.
伟大的老单身汉想要有自己的生活 家庭和房子 和其他人一样 他们不想过富裕的生活 Great old bachelor people want to have lives and families and houses, and just like anybody else, they're not trying to live rich.
他们只是想过自己的生活 你不能那样做因为你每六个月就得去另一个城市生活 你 They're just trying to live their lives, and um you can't do that when you have to live in a different city every six months because you're. You're.
随着电影公司追逐税收优惠 一群艺术家不得不跟随 As the studios chase the tax incentives, a group of artists have to follow.
我不认为电影公司希望视觉效果公司进入商业领域 因为他们有很多工作要做 I don't think the studios want visual effects companies to go to business because they have a lot of work.
这是必须的 他们希望我们健康 That needs to be done, and uh, they want us to be healthy.
然而 他们和其他有工作的人一样 他们有预算 However, they like any other person that has a job, they're given a budget.
他们拿到了一部电影 你必须为这么多钱做这份工作 记住这是固定出价 They're given a movie, and that you have to do this work for this amount of money. Remember this as a fixed bid.
你绝对不能向我们收取高于固定报价的费用 你说过对板子有一些变化 涉及到V的影响 You absolutely cannot charge us more than a fixed bid. You said there were some changes to the boards, what V effects are involved.
另外一个镜头是一辆汽车穿过突击公寓的美丽的连续镜头 然后汽车就变成了水 变成了7种独特的由水组成的动物 The additional shot has beautiful running footage of a car driving across assault flats. The car then turns into water and morphs into seven unique animals all made of water.
但有一个是火做的 But one is made of fire.
这可能比我们想的要多一点 这是一个固定的比特 一个固定的出价是你对作品出价 然后不管作品是什么 这就是你得到的价格 That may be a little more than we bargain for. This is a fixed bit, a fixed bid would be you bid the work, and then no matter what the work is, that's the price that you get.
如今的电影制作是一个非常不稳定的局面 Filmmaking nowadays is very much a fluid situation.
镜头发生了戏剧性的变化 The shots changed dramatically.
很容易就能拿到我们出价的一半 Easily half of the shots that we bid.
可以消失 被其他镜头取代 这就是电影制作的过程 真的很难进去 确切地知道你想要什么 Could disappear and be replaced by other shots, you know, that is the film making process, and it's really difficult to go in, know exactly what you want.
你看到的大多数建筑 大多数房屋 机场的摩天大楼 它们是建立在固定位置上的 Most construction that you see, most houses, skyscrapers at airports. They're built on a fixed bit.
这也说得通 因为这里有个蓝图所有东西都被安排好了 比如每一颗螺丝钉 每一束光束 每一块玻璃 Which makes sense because there's a blueprints where everything is laid out down to, like every screw, every eye beam, every piece of glass.
人们总是把它和盖房子相比 你知道 如果你去找一个建筑师 你想做一些改变 如果你同意一个计划 然后你为你的房子打好基础 People always compared with building a house, you know, if you go to an architect, you want to make the changes, well, if you agree to a plan and you lay the foundation to your house.
你得花点钱重建那栋房子 还有视觉效果 这是行不通的 因为我们不是按小时计酬的 而是按完成的项目计酬的 It's gonna cost you to rebuild that house, the visual effects. It doesn't work that way, because we're not paid by the hour that we work, and we get paid by the completed project.
如果镜头改变了 如果它们变长了 如果它们变短了 如果你添加了字符 你可以要求 If shots change, if they were lengthened, if they're shortened, if you add characters, you can ask for.
还有超长 但除非我们能向制片厂证明还有其他镜头 And overage, but unless we can prove to the studio that there were additional shots.
或者 事实上导演的方向发生了非常明显的改变 Or that there was, in fact a very clear change of direction on the part of the director.
你知道 我们只是没有太多的超额收入 这是固定价格 You know, we just don't get much in the way of overages. Now we've got this fixed price.
你知道 这种固定价格竞价模式有一个固定价格 而导演只是 You know, this fixed price bidding model where there's a fixed price, and the director just.
甚至不需要真的在那里 因为视觉效果艺术家可以重新做 Doesn't even have to really be there, because the visual effects artists can just do it over.
我需要你 I'm going to need you.
哦 Oh,
歌手 Singer.
多年来 电影制作的艺术似乎发生了一些变化 在过去 你需要有剧本和故事板 The art of filmmaking seems to have changed a little bit over the years. It used to be that you'd have a script and you had story boarded.
你要有三幕表演 然后你要出去拍摄 但现在 呃 You'd have all three acts, and then you'd go out and shoot. But nowadays, uh.
他们开始拍摄的时候并不知道第三幕会是什么样子 There they, they often start shooting without really knowing what act three is going to be, and.
你知道 要有一个固定的出价和一个固定的期限真的很难 You know, it's really hard to have a fixed bid and a fixed deadline.
当工作室和导演甚至还没有就第三幕达成一致时 这就像坐上了一辆开往某个地方的汽车 但你不知道你要去哪里 就像 嗯 你不是 When the studio and the director haven't even agreed on act three yet, it's like getting in the car to drive somewhere and you don't know where you're going. Like, well, don't You.
你有足够的汽油吗我不知道 我只是在开车 创造这些巨大的流体动态模拟 就像我们在生活中做的一样 Do you have enough gas I don't know. I'm just driving when creating these huge fluid dynamic simulations, like we did in a life of high.
他们想改变这种方式 从这种方式到这种方式 或使彩虹完全不同 这是很多模拟时间 只是为了做出改变 And they want to change this way from going that way to this way, or make the rainbow completely differently. That's a lot of simulation time, just to make the change.
最后给客户看 他会说 为什么这张照片会下雨这张照片不应该下雨 And then finally get shown to the client, who says something like, why is it even raining in this shot It's not supposed to be raining in this shot.
所以现在我们回去 我们做我们认为应该做的工作 我们再次展示它 它通过审批链回去 So now we go back, we do that work that we think we're supposed to be doing, we present it again, it goes back up through the chain of approvals.
决策者看到了 Decision maker sees it.
他们给出反馈 然后再从另一个方向 沿着这条链往回走 然后我们就能知道我们是否完成了或者我们是否必须继续下去 They give their feedback, then it goes back through the chain, the other direction, and we find out whether or not we're done or if we have to keep going.
我们理解如果你有一个愿景 And we understand that if you have a vision in your.
你正在朝着那个愿景前进 但只要你朝着那个愿景的同一方向前进 那就没问题 你知道我们会到达那里 You're moving toward that vision, but as long as you're moving in that same direction toward that vision, that's fine, and you know we're going to get there.
但我们经常看到的是 你知道 他们会朝着一个愿景前进 而你可能会朝着这个愿景前进六个月 然后 But what we see often is that, you know, they'll be heading towards a vision, and you might be heading toward that vision for six months, and then.
突然 他们转过身 朝着一个完全不同的方向前进 如果你不是一个梦想家或者如果你没有一个梦想家参与一个项目 All of a sudden, they turn around, and they're heading off in an entirely different direction. If you're not a visionary or or if you don't have a visionary involved in a Project.
并且很大程度上依赖于视觉效果 And relies heavily on visual effects.
它不会成功的 电影公司不允许导演 It's not going to succeed. The studios would not permit a director.
要拍摄一两个星期 开始拍摄 然后说 拆掉布景 建立一个新的布景 To shoot for a week or two, onset, and then say, tear down the set and build a new set.
你知道 这是不能容忍的 因为在电影制作的实景部分 一切都是按小时支付的 You know, that simply wouldn't be tolerated, because in the live action portion of filmmaking, everything is paid by the hour.
几乎每个人都在拍摄电影 都是按小时计算的 所以计时表在运行 焦点是动态的 因为 Pretty much everybody who's making everything happen on the movie set, it's by the hour, so the meters running, the focus is dynamic because it.
它让导演和决策者 不管那个人是谁 通常是导演 必须在场 It makes the director and the decision maker, whoever that person is, usually it's the director, has to be there.
每时每刻都有人在告诉他们有多少米 他们的创造力在不断涌动 因为每个人都很专注 决策都是实时做出的 And there's someone telling them every second what the meters at, and the creativity just rolls because everybody's so focused and the decisions are being made in real time.
但当你把决策者从过程中移除时 就像在视觉效果中发生的那样 工匠们就开始转移注意力了 But when you remove the decision maker from the process, which is what happens in visual effects, the artisans up getting diversion.
15 16 20 30 而客户甚至还没有看到它 Fifteen, sixteen, twenty thirty, and the clients never even seen it yet.
你知道 如果决策者在视觉特效艺术家中间徘徊 就像电影布景一样 You know, if the decision maker was wandering amongst the midst of the visual effects artists, like they do the movie set.
如果有一个平台需要这一点 那就是视觉效果 If there's ever a platform where that's needed, it's in visual effects.
那天是周五 他们告诉我们我们的薪水 It was a Friday that they told us that our paychecks were gonna be.
被耽搁了 约翰向所有被耽搁的人宣布 Delayed, john announces to everyone that were.
我要迟到了 Gonna be late on peril.
在这里待了这么久 我知道那是约翰 我们最不想做的事 而且 Been here long enough to know that that was the last thing John, we never wanted to, and.
那是你真正意识到情况有多糟糕的时候 就像一场完美的风暴 And that's really when it hit home that you knew how bad it was. It was like a perfect storm of.
所有的事情同时发生 在过去我们已经接近碰壁了 但是我认为我们已经接近了足够多的时间 让我们有了这种感觉 Of crap happening all at the same time, we've come close to hitting a wall in the past, but we've, I think we've come close enough times that there was this sense Of.
一切都会好起来的 而且这次不一样 Things will be OK, and this time was different.
我的手机从腿上开始响 我不知道是什么 晚上8点39分 人们都吓坏了 因为显然 My phone starts ringing at leg, I don't know what, 8:39 o'clock at night, people freaking out because apparen'tly.
经理们现在会打电话告诉人们 他们将在周日晚上9点被解雇 Managers are now calling people and telling them that they're being let go, nine pm, sunday night.
在所有这些帖子中 facebook可能掌握了最好的信息 All of these posts, facebook has probably the best information about what's going on.
往下看新闻推送 你会发现在链的每一层都有人被解雇 Just going down the the news feed, you've got people being let go at every single level up the chain.
你知道 从管理人员到高端视觉效果主管 有些人在公司工作了17年 You know, from like custodial staff all the way up to, you know, high end visual effect supervisors, people who have been with the company in some cases, for like seventeen years.
完全震惊了 然后整晚不睡觉 给朋友发短信 发邮件 打电话 Is completely shock, and then staying up all night, texting, emailing friends, calling friends.
不知道我会不会接到电话 Not knowing if I'm about to get a phone call.
心理上已经做好了准备 现在是9点 我在想 还有多久才能到午夜呢 我是午夜才上床 还是凌晨1点上床 还是凌晨2点才睡觉 Mentally preparing for that, it's like it's nine o'clock, I'm like, how late is it going to go until is it midnight Do I go to bed at midnight Do I go to bed at one am Do I stay up until two.
周一早上 Monday morning.
我们让协调员到处跑 他们要做的就是到人们的办公桌前 We had our coordinators running around, and what they would do is they would go to people's desks.
看看他们是否在那里他们是否在那里 然后他们必须找出他们应该在那里还是他们只是没有发现 See if they were there or not if they were there, then they had to find out if they were supposed to be there or if they just hadn't found out.
他们被切了 就像在肚子上挨了一拳 That they'd been cut, and that was just like punch in the stomach.
看到所有的座位都空着 我很难过 那天我什么工作都没完成 Sad to see all the empty seats, I didn't get any work done that day.
在整个过程中 你会想 为什么是这个人 为什么 为什么这个人 为什么那个人还在这里 为什么这个人走了 那个人 那个人坐在我旁边 And the entire time you're going to like, well, why, that person, why? Why this person, why is that person still here Why is this person gone That guy, that guy was sitting next to me.
和他走了 And he's gone.
为什么我还在这里为我自己 这个工作场所和这个 Why am I still here for me, that this workplace and this.
我的工作 就是我和其他人的互动 我一生中最好的朋友 我在这里遇到的 My job, it's all about my interaction with other people and my best friend, in my whole life, I've met here.
在节奏和你知道的人 你知道 我非常依恋 所以这是非常悲哀的 我真的没有想到它打击我这么大 At rhythm and people that you know, I'm very attached to, you know, and so it's very sad, I didn't really expect it to hit me as hard as it did.
现在还很难说 It's still hard to talk about.
我今天问他 我说 约翰 你怎么样了 他真的 真的很伤心 我们破产了 他非常非常难过 I asked him today, I said, john, how are you doing and he's really, really sad. He is very, very sad that we are in bankruptcy.
会有这么多人受到影响 我真的很难过 Is really sad about how many people are going to be affected by this.
我为此感到难过 And I feel sad for that.
你知道 我们经营这家公司是为了人民 然后 You know, we run this company for the people. And then.
然后对他们造成如此严重的伤害 And then to have hurt them so badly.
这和我们想做的正好相反 It's really the antithesis of what we wanted to do.
2012年对电影来说是伟大的一年 好莱坞以108亿美元的国内销售额打破了票房纪录 2012 was a great year for movies. Hollywood shattered box office records with 10.8 billion dollars in domestic sales.
事实上 电影公司的会计从来没有为了证明什么都没有赚到钱而付出更大的努力 In fact, studio accountants have have never had to work harder to prove nothing made a profit.
做派是我一生中最值得的经历 Life of pies is the uh, most rewarding experience I've had.
自从我开始做视觉特效工作 今晚就很重要了 Since I started working visual effects, now there's going to be a big night.
对你们中的一些人来说 因为 众所周知 获得奥斯卡奖就意味着在这个行业中长久而成功的职业生涯 For some of you people, because, as we all know, winning an Oscar guarantees a long, successful career in the industry.
该公司获得了两项提名 这是非常令人兴奋和验证的 To have two nominations for the company was incredibly exciting and validating.
另一方面 讽刺的是 公司在崩溃的同时 And on the other hand, full of irony, the company was shattering at the same time that.
所有这些认可都堆积在我们身上 奥斯卡之夜 真是一团糟 That all of this recognition was being heaped on us. So the night of the Oscars, um, what a mess.
是啊 这就是我要说的 你 你 你 你 Yeah, that's that's what I say, you, you, you, you.
这是非常戏剧化的 只是 一个医生获得了两个奥斯卡奖 This has been a very dramatic, just, a physician of being up for two Oscars.
同时宣布破产 后面经过 And declaring bankruptcy at the same time. The after goes through.
妻子 派 Wife, pie.
我在这方面工作了很多年 我想感谢一些人 我认为这非常重要 Having worked on this for for many years, uh, you know, I wanted to thank some people, and I thought that was very important.
我们的导演安格利 你给了我们灵感 你让我们所有人都经历了一段不可思议的旅程 To our director Angley, you were inspiration, and you, you made it an incredible journey for all of us.
每个人都有一个小泡泡 嘿 看这个 我们做到了 然后 Everybody had this little bubble of, hey, look at this. We did it, and um.
然后这奇怪的耳光 45秒后 我开始看到后面的红灯闪烁 说 你得把它包起来 然后 And then this odd slap in the face, forty five seconds in, I started seeing the red flashing light in the back, saying, you got to wrap it up. And then.
当他们开始播放 大白鲨 的主题曲时 简直 When they started playing that stupid Jaws theme, it was just.
这已经够侮辱人了 我的意思是 在任何其他年份 这可能实际上是一种有趣的 我的孩子是克里斯托弗·托马斯 我会创造史密斯 谢谢你每天激励我 Insulting enough, I mean, in any other year that might have been actually kind of funny, my children are Christopher Thomas, I'll generate Smith, thank you for inspiring me every day.
我的妈妈和爸爸认为 告诉我做任何我想要的疯狂的职业选择 最后 我想所有的艺术家在这部电影工作了一年多 My mom and dad think for, tell me to do any crazy career choice I wanted, finally, I want to think all the artists worked in this film for over a year.
包括节奏和休斯 很遗憾 节奏和休斯现在正遭受严重的财政困难 我希望你们都能记住 Including rhythm, and Hughes, sadly, rhythm and Hughes is suffering severe financial difficulties right now. It's, I urge you all to remember.
比尔喜欢 Bill gets like.
这完全是在舞台上被逼下了台 这象征着这个行业出了什么问题 Completely jawsed off stage, it was emblematic of something that is wrong with this industry.
我不知道他们对正在进行的抗议有什么感觉 也许他们不想对此发表任何评论 我真的不知道这是怎么回事 如果我能听懂的话 我 I don't know how they felt about the protest going on, maybe they didn't want anything to be said about that, I really don't know what was at play, if I can get the phrase. I.
被震惊到文化词汇中 我觉得整个经历都是值得的 Being shocked into the cultural lexicon. I think that whole experience would have been worth.
最重要的是 摄影师克劳迪奥和李安没有想过 那些人 Then the top it off, you've got Claudio the cinematographer and Ang Lee not thinking, the people who.
真的做了75%的电影 没有台湾 印度 加拿大 汤姆·洛克曼的帮助 我拍不了这部电影 Really did about 75% of the movie. I-I cannot make this movie without a help of Taiwan, my Indian crew, my Canadian crew, tom Rockman,
JimGymNapolis davidWalmart davidLee 我的经纪人 karence 年龄和律师Everstrek Jim Gym Napolis deal later, david Walmart, david Lee, my agent, karence, age and lawyer Everstrek.
乔迪·帕洛 我必须这么做 Jody Palo, I have to do that.
不幸这个词不够强烈 但确实如此 Unfortunate is not a strong enough word, but it was.
然而 看看它做了什么 讽刺的是 我认为它刺激了整个行业 However, look at what it did. It galvanized an entire industry, ironically, I think.
事实上 迈克被打断的事实比我实际说的话更能把信息传达给公众 Fact that Mike got cut off has done better to get the message out to the public than how I actually said.
它让整个效应社区对他们所受到的待遇感到非常愤怒 It yelled the entire the effects community into being horrifically pissed off at how they were being treated.
这是行业变化的催化剂 It's a catalyst for the change in this industry.
这是这是正确的方向 That's that's going to put it in the right direction.
我 大卫·贝格诺的所有人 现在播报新闻 I, everyone at David Beggno, on this is the news breaker.
打开你的社交媒体账户 你可能会看到绿色 人们把他们的头像换成绿色的方块 就像一个绿色的屏幕 Hop on your social media account and you may be seeing green. People are swapping their profile pictures into green squares, you know, like a green screen.
这一切都与视觉效果行业相一致 It's all in solidarity with the visual effects industry.
T Christie说 如果你在Twitter和Facebook上看到一群视觉特效艺术家用绿色图标 我们只是在向人们展示没有我们的电影是什么样子 T. Christie tweets, if you see a bunch of Vfx artists with green icons on Twitter and Facebook, we're just showing folks what movies look like without us.
我们正在进行一些很棒的对话 有些人戴着绿色的屏幕小别针 表明他们至少支持 We've got some fantastic conversation happening. You've got people who are getting little green screen pins to wear, showing that they at least support.
进行这些讨论的想法 即使我们没有必要在这一点上 有一个明确的愿景的答案是什么 The idea of having these discussions, even if we don't necessarily at this point, have a clear vision of what the answer is.
很多文章都出来了 A lot of articles come out.
我试着回想一下 好吧 他到底出了什么问题 他的节奏 他的一切都在朝着这个方向前进 他们知道自己在做什么 他们 Sort of try to go through it and figure, okay, what went wrong with with him And he was rhythm, and he was that everything going for it. They knew what they were doing. They.
他们有国际设施 利用税收优惠 他们想要奥斯卡奖 到底发生了什么 Had international facilities, they were making use of tax incentives, they want an Oscar. What the hell happened.
和 And.
没有人有核答案 这就像是每一篇文章都是一遍又一遍地重复同样的内容 No one has nuclear answers. It's sort of like every one of these articles just kind of rehash as the same stuff over and over again.
结果是 公司和驿站就像没有疯子一样在全球游荡 试图找到一个经济上可行的地方来工作 不应该是这样的 因为上帝 The effects, firms and post houses are like no mads roaming the globe trying to find an economically viable place to be able to work. And it shouldn't be that way, because God.
该死 你需要我们 当我从一个想进入这个行业做V-F-X工作的人的角度来看这个问题 Damn it, you need us. And when I look into this from the perspective of someone who wants to get into the industry and do V-F-X work and.
我不会坐下来修改我自己的视频或做一个Chrom 一个键 I'm not sitting back and color correcting my own video or doing a Chrom, a key.
想想看 如果人们无法支付费用 如果这种趋势继续下去 会很痛苦 And thinking about it, people not being able to be paid for, it hurts if that trend continues.
我们继续做不可能的事 继续创造非凡的事物 和一个短 Where we continue to do the impossible and we continue to make things extraordinary. And a short.
我们继续赔钱 视觉效果行业将会灭绝 And we continue to lose money, the visual effects industry will become extinct.
的 The.
每一天 Every day.
这个行业的情况在变化 Things change in this business.
它的变化就像你的笔记本电脑的变化 技术的变化 世界经济的变化 It changes like your laptop changes, the technology changes, the economics of the world change.
我跟很多受此影响的人谈过他们很伤心 很沮丧他们可能会去做别的事情 Talked to plenty of people who are so affected by this and so hurt and so distressed that they're just going to probably go do something else.
我不认为在生产了我们25年的产品后破产 我不认为那是失败 相反 我认为它是成功的 I don't consider going out of business after twenty five years of producing what we produced, I don't consider that a failure, quite the contrary, I consider it a success.
我认为人们需要 And I think that people need to.
你要明白 要像我们那样一直经营下去是多么困难 Have a little more appreciation for how difficult it was to stay in business as long as we did.
视觉效果和动画是一种商业展示 商业 Visual effects and animation is a business show, business.
艺术家或者其他什么你的职业在这里 它仍然是一门生意 And artist or whatever it is that your vocation is here, it's still a business.
嗯 我是 Um, I'm.
艺术家永远都是艺术家 The people who are artists will always be artists.
没人能从你身上夺走这一点 对吧 没人会说 哦 好吧 我们会的 我们要把这生意关了 And no one can ever take that away from you, right? Nobody can ever say, oh, well, we're going to. We're going to shut this business down.
所以你不再是艺术家了 我也不可能永远是艺术家 你永远不能替我接受 So you're no longer an artist, no way I'll always be an artist. You can never take that for me, it's uh,
这是一个过程 你必须享受你正在做的事情 我做了 我非常享受 It's, it's the process, you have to enjoy what you're doing, and I did, you know, I-I enjoyed it very much.
太多了 Too many.
让我带 Let me take.
歌手 Singer.
而我就是那个人 And I'm going to be the one.
哦 Oh,