1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:07,224 --> 00:00:10,619 [light orchestral music] 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:20,759 --> 00:00:24,546 [melancholy orchestral music] 5 00:00:47,743 --> 00:00:50,398 [birds chirping] 6 00:00:54,837 --> 00:00:56,317 - Remember now, girls. 7 00:00:56,491 --> 00:00:57,796 You're staying with your mom this weekend. 8 00:00:57,970 --> 00:00:59,450 - But we're supposed to be with you. 9 00:00:59,624 --> 00:01:01,017 - I know, but we switched a few weeks back. 10 00:01:01,191 --> 00:01:02,932 She had somewhere to go? - Oh, yeah, I forgot. 11 00:01:03,106 --> 00:01:05,108 - Girls know where she went? - She went to see some man. 12 00:01:05,282 --> 00:01:06,457 - Michelle. 13 00:01:06,631 --> 00:01:08,068 - Some man who? 14 00:01:08,242 --> 00:01:09,982 - We don't know, Dad, we never met him. 15 00:01:10,157 --> 00:01:11,245 - It's about the tenth one, isn't it? 16 00:01:11,419 --> 00:01:12,463 - What, Dad? 17 00:01:12,637 --> 00:01:13,986 - Nothing. 18 00:01:14,161 --> 00:01:15,205 - I'm sorry, Dad, I didn't mean to. 19 00:01:15,379 --> 00:01:17,077 - I know, it's okay. 20 00:01:17,251 --> 00:01:18,643 Come on, let's get going. 21 00:01:18,817 --> 00:01:20,036 I don't want you girls late for school. 22 00:01:20,210 --> 00:01:23,605 [pensive orchestral music] 23 00:01:55,332 --> 00:01:56,638 - Morning, Dave. - Morning, Sue. 24 00:01:56,812 --> 00:01:58,335 - She called at 8:01. 25 00:01:58,509 --> 00:02:00,511 - Was she mad? - No, she was in a good mood. 26 00:02:00,685 --> 00:02:02,948 She said hello and even asked how I was doing. 27 00:02:03,123 --> 00:02:04,385 - She must want something. 28 00:02:07,518 --> 00:02:08,389 No, I can take it. 29 00:02:10,347 --> 00:02:11,218 No, I'm sure. 30 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:13,263 Okay, well... 31 00:02:16,179 --> 00:02:17,180 Bye. 32 00:02:20,879 --> 00:02:23,186 Wants me to take another weekend for her. 33 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:24,579 This time, no switching. 34 00:02:26,276 --> 00:02:27,538 Must be in love. 35 00:02:27,712 --> 00:02:28,496 - Must be. 36 00:02:29,584 --> 00:02:30,411 You okay? 37 00:02:31,890 --> 00:02:32,761 - Not really. 38 00:02:36,199 --> 00:02:37,156 Sue? 39 00:02:37,331 --> 00:02:38,332 - Yeah. 40 00:02:39,898 --> 00:02:41,422 - Do you ever get used to this? 41 00:02:42,292 --> 00:02:43,250 - Used to it? 42 00:02:43,424 --> 00:02:44,381 Yes. 43 00:02:44,555 --> 00:02:46,122 Like it? 44 00:02:46,296 --> 00:02:46,949 No. 45 00:02:52,824 --> 00:02:53,825 - [Dave] You know, it still hurts me 46 00:02:53,999 --> 00:02:55,218 every time I think about it. 47 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:57,742 - [Paul] I'm sorry, man. 48 00:02:57,916 --> 00:02:59,527 - It's just not right. 49 00:02:59,701 --> 00:03:01,616 It's never been right, it's never gonna be right. 50 00:03:03,313 --> 00:03:04,271 - [Paul] Well, maybe you should try to avoid her. 51 00:03:04,445 --> 00:03:05,750 - I do. 52 00:03:05,924 --> 00:03:07,622 Most of the time, I don't see her, 53 00:03:07,796 --> 00:03:09,145 the way custody's set up, but every once in a while, 54 00:03:09,319 --> 00:03:11,365 we run into each other. 55 00:03:11,539 --> 00:03:13,193 She knows it hurts me when I see her. 56 00:03:13,367 --> 00:03:14,846 - Oh, if she knows it hurts you, 57 00:03:15,020 --> 00:03:17,153 I'm sure she arranges it once in a while. 58 00:03:17,327 --> 00:03:18,720 - You know what she does? 59 00:03:18,894 --> 00:03:19,851 When I've got the girls and she calls 60 00:03:20,025 --> 00:03:21,505 to talk to them at night, 61 00:03:21,679 --> 00:03:23,115 instead of calling me from her cell phone, 62 00:03:23,290 --> 00:03:25,117 she'll call me from her boyfriend's phone, 63 00:03:25,292 --> 00:03:27,337 so I'll see his name pop up on the caller ID. 64 00:03:28,599 --> 00:03:30,122 - It's just the devil that's using her, man. 65 00:03:30,297 --> 00:03:32,124 He's just trying to tear you up inside. 66 00:03:32,299 --> 00:03:34,736 - Yeah, he's doing a really good job of it, let me tell ya. 67 00:03:36,738 --> 00:03:37,565 - You know, Dave, 68 00:03:38,783 --> 00:03:41,133 maybe it's time you try and meet someone else. 69 00:03:41,308 --> 00:03:42,396 You are free to remarry. 70 00:03:43,701 --> 00:03:44,485 - I don't know. 71 00:03:46,356 --> 00:03:48,489 - You should try and get out a little more. 72 00:03:48,663 --> 00:03:50,795 Get involved with a singles group or something. 73 00:03:50,969 --> 00:03:52,710 - [chuckles] I don't think so. 74 00:03:52,884 --> 00:03:54,103 - [Paul] Probably do you a lot of good. 75 00:03:54,277 --> 00:03:55,670 - Ah, it's not me. 76 00:03:58,281 --> 00:04:00,283 - Well, hang in there, you gonna make it. 77 00:04:00,457 --> 00:04:02,372 God's gonna see you through. 78 00:04:02,546 --> 00:04:04,156 - Sometimes I wonder. 79 00:04:04,331 --> 00:04:06,985 - Hey, when we get the contract with the client group, 80 00:04:07,986 --> 00:04:09,597 that'll make you feel better. 81 00:04:09,771 --> 00:04:10,815 - Oh, right, like the contract of the century's 82 00:04:10,989 --> 00:04:12,339 gonna make me feel all better. 83 00:04:12,513 --> 00:04:13,862 - It can't hurt. 84 00:04:14,036 --> 00:04:15,559 - Yeah, we'll see if they go for it. 85 00:04:15,733 --> 00:04:17,125 - Oh, they're gonna go for it, it's very fair. 86 00:04:17,300 --> 00:04:18,736 - Oh, it's fair all right, 87 00:04:18,910 --> 00:04:20,129 but these guys don't want fair, do they? 88 00:04:20,303 --> 00:04:21,696 They wanna have the edge. 89 00:04:21,870 --> 00:04:24,699 - [chuckles] Yeah, you got that right. 90 00:04:24,873 --> 00:04:26,353 But I think God's gonna make it happen. 91 00:04:26,527 --> 00:04:28,659 I got a good feeling about this. 92 00:04:28,832 --> 00:04:30,226 We'll soon enough, tomorrow is June 2nd, 93 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,359 and that is the deadline. 94 00:04:32,533 --> 00:04:35,623 We should know something, first thing in the morning. 95 00:04:35,797 --> 00:04:37,320 - What did you just say? 96 00:04:37,494 --> 00:04:38,539 - [Paul] We should know first thing in the morning. 97 00:04:38,713 --> 00:04:40,932 - No, no, what day it was. 98 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:43,631 - June 2nd. 99 00:04:45,415 --> 00:04:47,722 [Dave chuckles] 100 00:04:47,896 --> 00:04:48,636 What? 101 00:04:48,810 --> 00:04:49,550 What about it? 102 00:04:51,378 --> 00:04:53,162 - Well, June 2nd was the day I broke up 103 00:04:53,336 --> 00:04:54,772 with my old high school girlfriend. 104 00:04:55,686 --> 00:04:57,775 - You still remember the date? 105 00:04:57,949 --> 00:04:58,776 - Yeah. 106 00:04:59,995 --> 00:05:01,344 She was my first love. 107 00:05:03,694 --> 00:05:04,565 - First love, huh? 108 00:05:07,350 --> 00:05:07,959 - Name was Mary. 109 00:05:09,918 --> 00:05:11,963 Did you ever have a girlfriend in high school? 110 00:05:13,356 --> 00:05:15,445 - Not really, I mean, I played football, 111 00:05:15,619 --> 00:05:18,448 and there was this girl named Regina. 112 00:05:19,884 --> 00:05:22,278 We dated on and off a little, but nothing serious. 113 00:05:22,452 --> 00:05:24,280 I mean, I was a lineman, not many girls get excited 114 00:05:24,454 --> 00:05:26,804 about dating a lineman, if you know what I mean. 115 00:05:27,718 --> 00:05:28,980 - Mary was a cheerleader. 116 00:05:30,417 --> 00:05:31,722 - [Paul] And what were you, a running back? 117 00:05:31,896 --> 00:05:32,810 - Me? 118 00:05:32,984 --> 00:05:34,334 No, I didn't play football. 119 00:05:34,508 --> 00:05:36,336 I ran cross country and track. 120 00:05:36,510 --> 00:05:38,686 - So, how'd you get the cheerleader, then? 121 00:05:38,860 --> 00:05:41,384 - What're you talking about, us runners got all the chicks. 122 00:05:44,518 --> 00:05:45,127 Z- 123 00:05:46,041 --> 00:05:47,521 E- 124 00:05:47,695 --> 00:05:48,348 B- 125 00:05:48,522 --> 00:05:50,219 U. 126 00:05:50,393 --> 00:05:50,959 - "Zebu?" 127 00:05:52,482 --> 00:05:55,006 - And that is a triple-letter score on the Z. 128 00:05:56,443 --> 00:05:57,487 - Zebu's a word? 129 00:05:57,661 --> 00:05:58,923 - Sure it is. 130 00:05:59,097 --> 00:06:00,534 - What does zebu mean? 131 00:06:00,708 --> 00:06:02,362 - What do I look like, a dictionary here? 132 00:06:02,536 --> 00:06:04,102 I don't know what all the Z words mean. 133 00:06:04,276 --> 00:06:06,496 I just know that I memorized a bunch of 'em once. 134 00:06:07,410 --> 00:06:08,803 It's a word! 135 00:06:08,977 --> 00:06:10,457 - Ashley, is zebu a word? 136 00:06:10,631 --> 00:06:12,633 - No, he's just making it up. 137 00:06:12,807 --> 00:06:14,765 - Your father got straight A's in English and spelling 138 00:06:14,939 --> 00:06:16,854 all through school, I'm not making anything up. 139 00:06:17,028 --> 00:06:19,422 - Yes, you are, zebu is not a word. 140 00:06:19,596 --> 00:06:21,555 - Zebra is, but not zebu. 141 00:06:23,034 --> 00:06:24,384 - Hey, hey, hey, young lady. 142 00:06:24,558 --> 00:06:26,603 That is my word and I'm leaving it. 143 00:06:27,517 --> 00:06:29,301 It's an animal overseas somewhere. 144 00:06:29,476 --> 00:06:30,433 - Challenge him! 145 00:06:30,607 --> 00:06:31,913 He's trying to trick you. 146 00:06:32,087 --> 00:06:34,263 - I'm not trying to trick anybody. 147 00:06:34,437 --> 00:06:35,917 - I'm going to challenge you. 148 00:06:36,091 --> 00:06:37,875 - Okay. 149 00:06:38,049 --> 00:06:40,835 But if you challenge and you're wrong, you lose a turn. 150 00:06:41,009 --> 00:06:42,706 Then you'll probably lose the game. 151 00:06:49,626 --> 00:06:51,411 - I'm challenging. 152 00:06:51,585 --> 00:06:52,412 [phone rings] 153 00:06:52,586 --> 00:06:53,543 - Tried to warn ya. 154 00:06:54,631 --> 00:06:57,808 [phone rings] 155 00:06:57,982 --> 00:06:59,288 [phone rings] 156 00:06:59,462 --> 00:07:00,071 Hello. 157 00:07:01,072 --> 00:07:02,378 Hold on just a minute. 158 00:07:02,552 --> 00:07:03,553 It's your mom. 159 00:07:08,471 --> 00:07:09,516 - Hey, Mom. 160 00:07:10,517 --> 00:07:13,345 - I don't believe it, you are so lucky. 161 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,784 - There is no such thing as luck, it's an animal, isn't it? 162 00:07:16,957 --> 00:07:20,483 - Yes, "a mammal of Africa and Asia." 163 00:07:20,657 --> 00:07:22,354 [chuckles] Dad. 164 00:07:22,529 --> 00:07:23,573 [Dave chuckles] 165 00:07:23,747 --> 00:07:27,490 [melancholy orchestral music] 166 00:07:31,668 --> 00:07:33,453 - [Paul] Did you hear the news? 167 00:07:33,627 --> 00:07:35,498 - They signed the contract. 168 00:07:35,672 --> 00:07:37,021 - [Paul] How'd you know? 169 00:07:37,195 --> 00:07:39,371 - [Dave] I didn't, you just told me. 170 00:07:39,546 --> 00:07:40,634 - They signed the contract. 171 00:07:41,504 --> 00:07:42,418 Aren't you excited? 172 00:07:42,592 --> 00:07:43,767 - Yeah, that's good. 173 00:07:43,941 --> 00:07:45,334 - "That's good?" 174 00:07:45,508 --> 00:07:46,814 What do you mean? That's great. 175 00:07:48,555 --> 00:07:50,470 - Do you remember that girl I told you about yesterday? 176 00:07:50,644 --> 00:07:51,862 - [Paul] What girl? 177 00:07:52,036 --> 00:07:53,298 - Mary. - The old girlfriend? 178 00:07:53,473 --> 00:07:54,778 - Yeah. 179 00:07:54,952 --> 00:07:56,258 I was flippin' through the stations 180 00:07:56,432 --> 00:07:58,042 on the way into work this morning, 181 00:07:58,216 --> 00:08:02,090 and I heard a song from 1974 that was "our song." 182 00:08:03,570 --> 00:08:05,354 Now what do you think the chances of that happening are? 183 00:08:05,528 --> 00:08:06,703 - I don't know, but who cares? 184 00:08:06,877 --> 00:08:08,618 The contract! 185 00:08:08,792 --> 00:08:11,360 - Come on, man, it brought back a lot of good memories. 186 00:08:11,534 --> 00:08:14,058 - We just landed the biggest marketing deal 187 00:08:14,232 --> 00:08:16,452 in the history of this company, 188 00:08:16,626 --> 00:08:18,410 and you're thinking about some high school girl? 189 00:08:18,585 --> 00:08:20,630 - Not just some girl, Paul. 190 00:08:20,804 --> 00:08:21,936 She was the greatest. 191 00:08:23,764 --> 00:08:26,288 January 5th, 1974, is the day we met. 192 00:08:27,768 --> 00:08:30,379 We lived in different towns, about three miles apart. 193 00:08:30,553 --> 00:08:33,513 My cousin played for her high school basketball team. 194 00:08:33,687 --> 00:08:35,515 He was a junior and so was she. 195 00:08:35,688 --> 00:08:37,385 I was a senior. 196 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,388 He arranged for me to meet her at one of the games. 197 00:08:39,562 --> 00:08:41,433 So I talked to her a little bit that night, 198 00:08:41,607 --> 00:08:44,393 and then I called her the next day and asked her out. 199 00:08:44,567 --> 00:08:46,438 And she said yes. [chuckles] 200 00:08:46,613 --> 00:08:47,875 And that's how it all started. 201 00:08:49,659 --> 00:08:51,095 And I remember telling my brother on February 5th, 202 00:08:51,269 --> 00:08:52,706 just one month later, that I would never, 203 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,751 ever break up with this girl. 204 00:08:54,925 --> 00:08:56,492 That she was the most perfect, 205 00:08:56,665 --> 00:08:58,407 beautiful girl in the world for me. 206 00:08:58,581 --> 00:09:00,452 - But you broke up with her. 207 00:09:00,627 --> 00:09:02,890 - We dated for two years, four months and 28 days. 208 00:09:03,064 --> 00:09:04,152 Yeah, I broke up with her. 209 00:09:04,326 --> 00:09:06,067 - Which was June 2nd, 210 00:09:06,241 --> 00:09:08,069 the day that this company landed its biggest contract. 211 00:09:08,243 --> 00:09:11,507 - No, it was June 2nd, 1976, the day that I was 212 00:09:11,681 --> 00:09:14,554 a total idiot and let go of the greatest thing I ever had. 213 00:09:16,077 --> 00:09:18,035 I should've married that girl. 214 00:09:18,209 --> 00:09:19,428 [Paul sighs] 215 00:09:19,602 --> 00:09:20,211 - You know, Dave. 216 00:09:21,735 --> 00:09:23,519 Maybe you should see a counselor or somethin'. 217 00:09:23,693 --> 00:09:25,521 Go to one of those divorce recovery groups. 218 00:09:25,695 --> 00:09:27,523 - Are you kidding me, and listen to all those sob stories? 219 00:09:27,697 --> 00:09:29,133 No way. 220 00:09:29,307 --> 00:09:30,787 - Well, they've got Christian groups that meet. 221 00:09:30,961 --> 00:09:32,702 - No, I don't need any of that stuff, I'm fine. 222 00:09:32,876 --> 00:09:34,486 - You might wanna check it out. 223 00:09:34,661 --> 00:09:37,925 Besides, you need to move forward, not backward. 224 00:09:38,099 --> 00:09:40,014 - Why, because I told you a little bit about Mary? 225 00:09:40,188 --> 00:09:42,146 There's nothing wrong in talking about her. 226 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:43,452 - But it just wasn't in God's plan. 227 00:09:43,626 --> 00:09:45,193 That's why you didn't marry her. 228 00:09:45,367 --> 00:09:48,631 - No, I didn't marry her because I was young and stupid. 229 00:09:48,805 --> 00:09:50,894 - But you once told me that if you had not moved out 230 00:09:51,068 --> 00:09:53,984 of New York State, you probably would've never found Jesus. 231 00:09:54,158 --> 00:09:55,551 Now, you know there's nothing more valuable 232 00:09:55,725 --> 00:09:56,944 than having God in your life. 233 00:09:57,118 --> 00:09:58,206 - That's true, but, 234 00:09:59,686 --> 00:10:01,818 why didn't he allow me to become a Christian up there? 235 00:10:01,992 --> 00:10:04,604 And why didn't he allow Mary and I to get married? 236 00:10:08,172 --> 00:10:11,088 How was school, sweetie, did you learn anything? 237 00:10:11,262 --> 00:10:13,003 - [Michelle] Um, nope. 238 00:10:13,177 --> 00:10:14,614 - [chuckles] Michelle, you've been in school all year 239 00:10:14,788 --> 00:10:15,919 and you haven't learned a thing? 240 00:10:16,093 --> 00:10:18,052 - [Michelle] Dad. [chuckles] 241 00:10:18,226 --> 00:10:19,575 Do you wanna talk to Ashley again? 242 00:10:19,749 --> 00:10:21,925 - No, no, honey, I don't need to talk to her. 243 00:10:22,099 --> 00:10:23,927 I love you both. - Love you, too. 244 00:10:24,101 --> 00:10:26,016 - Have a good weekend, I'll call you tomorrow night, okay? 245 00:10:26,190 --> 00:10:27,583 - All right. - All right, goodnight. 246 00:10:27,757 --> 00:10:29,237 God bless. - Goodnight. 247 00:10:36,636 --> 00:10:37,811 [Dave sighs] 248 00:10:37,985 --> 00:10:41,771 [melancholy orchestral music] 249 00:11:20,767 --> 00:11:21,942 - [Cheerleaders] Defense! 250 00:11:22,116 --> 00:11:23,683 Defense, defense! 251 00:11:24,727 --> 00:11:27,730 [audience cheers] 252 00:11:56,977 --> 00:11:58,630 - Hey, Paul? 253 00:11:58,805 --> 00:12:00,284 You ever think of that high school sweetheart of yours? 254 00:12:00,458 --> 00:12:01,851 - [Paul] Who? 255 00:12:02,025 --> 00:12:02,939 - The girl you dated in high school. 256 00:12:03,113 --> 00:12:04,332 You ever think about her? 257 00:12:04,506 --> 00:12:06,247 - You mean Regina? - Yeah. 258 00:12:06,421 --> 00:12:08,815 - [chuckles] No, man, we only dated a little. 259 00:12:08,989 --> 00:12:10,642 I told you, I was a lineman. 260 00:12:10,817 --> 00:12:12,383 [Dave chuckles] 261 00:12:12,557 --> 00:12:14,690 Besides, I have got the godliest lady the Lord 262 00:12:14,864 --> 00:12:16,257 ever put on this earth for a wife. 263 00:12:17,998 --> 00:12:19,608 - You've really got a good marriage, don't you? 264 00:12:19,782 --> 00:12:21,610 - I've got a great marriage. 265 00:12:21,784 --> 00:12:23,525 And it's not because of me, it's because of her. 266 00:12:24,961 --> 00:12:25,919 - I'm glad for you. 267 00:12:27,964 --> 00:12:29,618 God knows I tried in my marriage. 268 00:12:29,792 --> 00:12:30,793 - I hear you. 269 00:12:31,881 --> 00:12:33,187 But it takes two. 270 00:12:33,361 --> 00:12:34,754 - It takes two to get married, 271 00:12:34,928 --> 00:12:36,059 and it only takes one to get divorced. 272 00:12:37,365 --> 00:12:38,714 - I'm telling you, you need to go 273 00:12:38,888 --> 00:12:40,629 to one of those recovery groups. 274 00:12:40,803 --> 00:12:42,152 Talk to people who've walked through this stuff before. 275 00:12:42,326 --> 00:12:43,980 It'll help you work through it. 276 00:12:44,154 --> 00:12:45,808 - You know what I really need to do? 277 00:12:47,201 --> 00:12:50,639 I need to travel back to 1974 and start all over again 278 00:12:50,813 --> 00:12:52,989 with the greatest girl that ever came my way. 279 00:12:53,163 --> 00:12:54,556 And this time, hang onto her. 280 00:12:55,949 --> 00:12:57,733 - You've really been thinking a lot about this girl. 281 00:12:57,907 --> 00:12:58,908 - Yeah, I have. 282 00:13:00,214 --> 00:13:02,956 - Well, that was 30 years ago, you can't do that. 283 00:13:03,130 --> 00:13:04,740 - Do what? 284 00:13:04,914 --> 00:13:05,915 - Well, you can't live in the past, 285 00:13:06,089 --> 00:13:07,090 and you can't go back in time. 286 00:13:08,526 --> 00:13:10,790 - I can, in my mind and in my dreams. 287 00:13:10,964 --> 00:13:12,748 - Yeah, but when you wake up, you'll be back 288 00:13:12,922 --> 00:13:15,142 in the real world where you're divorced with two daughters. 289 00:13:15,316 --> 00:13:16,926 Dave, you gotta go on from here. 290 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,583 [melancholy orchestral music] 291 00:13:33,290 --> 00:13:36,076 [keyboard clacks] 292 00:14:04,278 --> 00:14:06,671 - Here's the Calaway file. - Oh, thanks. 293 00:14:06,846 --> 00:14:07,455 - [Sue] You okay? 294 00:14:08,891 --> 00:14:11,372 - Yeah, I was just doing a little daydreaming. 295 00:14:11,546 --> 00:14:12,329 - [Sue] Okay. 296 00:14:13,287 --> 00:14:14,114 - Hey, Sue? 297 00:14:15,245 --> 00:14:16,638 Did you ever go to one of those 298 00:14:16,812 --> 00:14:19,467 divorce recovery groups when, you know? 299 00:14:19,641 --> 00:14:21,686 - Yeah, I went to the one that meets over 300 00:14:21,861 --> 00:14:23,427 at Southside Fellowship. 301 00:14:23,601 --> 00:14:24,907 Don't have to be a member of the church to go. 302 00:14:25,081 --> 00:14:26,735 - Does it still meet? 303 00:14:26,909 --> 00:14:28,955 - As far as I know, I can find out, if you'd like. 304 00:14:29,912 --> 00:14:31,174 - Did it help you? 305 00:14:31,348 --> 00:14:32,741 - You know what? It really did. 306 00:14:32,915 --> 00:14:34,264 - How? 307 00:14:34,438 --> 00:14:35,962 - Um, just listening to other people 308 00:14:36,136 --> 00:14:37,877 who were going through the same things I was. 309 00:14:38,051 --> 00:14:40,009 It's mostly the victims that are in those classes. 310 00:14:40,183 --> 00:14:41,793 Pretty good therapy, though. 311 00:14:41,968 --> 00:14:43,665 - Think I should go? 312 00:14:43,839 --> 00:14:45,406 - Well it wouldn't hurt you, if that's what you're thinking. 313 00:14:45,580 --> 00:14:46,973 - That's not what I'm thinkin'. 314 00:14:47,147 --> 00:14:48,104 - And it would not be a waste of time, 315 00:14:48,278 --> 00:14:49,323 if that's what you're thinking. 316 00:14:49,497 --> 00:14:51,238 - Here's what I'm thinking. 317 00:14:51,412 --> 00:14:54,067 No matter how I look at this, it just doesn't add up. 318 00:14:54,241 --> 00:14:56,025 How does a woman destroy a family, 319 00:14:56,199 --> 00:14:57,984 with two children and a devoted husband, 320 00:14:58,158 --> 00:15:00,203 after 19 years of marriage, I mean, 321 00:15:00,377 --> 00:15:02,292 why does God allow something like that to happen? 322 00:15:02,466 --> 00:15:03,772 - You can't blame God, Dave. 323 00:15:03,946 --> 00:15:05,339 She's the one that made the choice. 324 00:15:05,513 --> 00:15:07,428 - But he allowed it, he saw this coming, 325 00:15:07,602 --> 00:15:09,256 and he could've done something to prevent it. 326 00:15:09,430 --> 00:15:10,822 - Maybe he tried? 327 00:15:10,997 --> 00:15:12,389 - He didn't try hard enough. 328 00:15:13,956 --> 00:15:16,002 - I don't have the answers for you. 329 00:15:16,176 --> 00:15:17,786 - Does anybody? 330 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:19,919 - Well, the group will help and you should go. 331 00:15:21,572 --> 00:15:23,357 I'm gonna get the information for you. 332 00:15:23,531 --> 00:15:25,925 - I probably won't use it, but thanks. 333 00:15:27,970 --> 00:15:30,886 - So, what're you gonna do with that bonus check? 334 00:15:31,060 --> 00:15:32,496 - [Dave] I don't know, haven't really thought about it. 335 00:15:32,670 --> 00:15:34,455 - Well, I'll tell you what I'm gonna do. 336 00:15:34,629 --> 00:15:37,849 I'm gonna take the little lady on a cruise. 337 00:15:38,024 --> 00:15:39,808 We're gonna spend some quality time together, 338 00:15:39,982 --> 00:15:42,985 praise the Lord, and enjoy seven days in the Caribbean. 339 00:15:44,030 --> 00:15:45,118 Or is it Caribbean? 340 00:15:45,292 --> 00:15:47,250 - It's fine, either way. 341 00:15:47,424 --> 00:15:49,557 Hey, I'd love to go. 342 00:15:49,731 --> 00:15:52,386 - Sorry, buddy, this trip is just for two. 343 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,040 - [Dave] When do you leave? 344 00:15:54,214 --> 00:15:55,867 - Well, as soon as I can schedule the time off. 345 00:15:56,042 --> 00:15:57,173 Hopefully next month. 346 00:15:57,347 --> 00:15:59,654 - Well, happy sailing. 347 00:16:01,134 --> 00:16:01,917 - Thank you. 348 00:16:02,091 --> 00:16:03,875 [Dave chuckles] 349 00:16:04,050 --> 00:16:05,573 You know, the Lord is really blessing us. 350 00:16:05,747 --> 00:16:07,227 I mean, we made that big deal, 351 00:16:07,401 --> 00:16:09,838 and God has rewarded us with a nice bonus. 352 00:16:10,012 --> 00:16:11,448 Everybody needs a little R&R. 353 00:16:11,622 --> 00:16:13,450 Even Jesus took some R&R when he was on earth. 354 00:16:13,624 --> 00:16:15,975 - I wonder if he took a little cruise. 355 00:16:16,149 --> 00:16:18,020 - Hey, he didn't have to take a cruise on the water. 356 00:16:18,194 --> 00:16:19,152 He just took a walk on it. 357 00:16:19,326 --> 00:16:22,155 [Dave chuckles] 358 00:16:25,723 --> 00:16:29,162 [somber orchestral music] 359 00:16:52,707 --> 00:16:55,362 - This class is to help you cope with your situation. 360 00:16:56,754 --> 00:16:58,887 Now, everybody here is either divorced or separated, 361 00:16:59,061 --> 00:17:01,194 or going through a divorce. 362 00:17:01,368 --> 00:17:04,414 Some of you still want your marriages to come back together. 363 00:17:04,588 --> 00:17:06,329 Some of you don't know what happened. 364 00:17:07,765 --> 00:17:09,332 And all of you probably wish this had never happened 365 00:17:09,506 --> 00:17:12,465 and are wondering where God is in all of this. 366 00:17:13,771 --> 00:17:15,121 Well, I'm here to tell you 367 00:17:15,295 --> 00:17:17,036 that he's right in the middle of it. 368 00:17:17,210 --> 00:17:19,386 And if you let him, he'll see you through it. 369 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:20,821 One way or another. 370 00:17:22,171 --> 00:17:25,653 And he has a purpose for allowing you to go through this. 371 00:17:25,827 --> 00:17:29,309 Even though you may not see it, or understand why. 372 00:17:30,832 --> 00:17:32,573 We've got a couple of new people with us tonight, 373 00:17:32,747 --> 00:17:36,011 and what we usually do is have you introduce yourself, 374 00:17:36,185 --> 00:17:37,969 share with us what you want. 375 00:17:38,144 --> 00:17:41,321 Everything that is said in this room, stays in this room. 376 00:17:41,495 --> 00:17:43,410 Just remember that everybody here 377 00:17:43,584 --> 00:17:46,282 is going through the same thing that you are. 378 00:17:46,456 --> 00:17:48,415 We're just here to help each other, okay? 379 00:17:49,590 --> 00:17:50,373 Dave? 380 00:17:54,812 --> 00:17:57,076 - My name is Dave and I'm divorced, 381 00:17:57,250 --> 00:17:59,252 but not by my own choice. 382 00:18:02,255 --> 00:18:03,256 I have two daughters. 383 00:18:04,866 --> 00:18:05,780 And that's about it. 384 00:18:09,131 --> 00:18:10,872 - Is there anything else you'd like to share with us? 385 00:18:13,179 --> 00:18:13,788 - No. 386 00:18:15,355 --> 00:18:17,792 To tell you the truth, I really don't know why I'm here. 387 00:18:20,142 --> 00:18:21,709 - Well, you're here for a reason, Dave. 388 00:18:21,883 --> 00:18:24,059 The Lord guided you here tonight. 389 00:18:24,233 --> 00:18:24,842 - I guess. 390 00:18:26,279 --> 00:18:28,281 - Well, we're just here to help you if we can. 391 00:18:29,673 --> 00:18:32,154 - Think you can turn back the clock? 392 00:18:32,328 --> 00:18:35,026 - You mean like turn back time and start all over again? 393 00:18:35,201 --> 00:18:36,898 - Yeah, you got it. 394 00:18:37,072 --> 00:18:39,727 - Well, a time machine I haven't perfected yet, Dave. 395 00:18:39,901 --> 00:18:42,121 [chuckles] But we're glad you came. 396 00:18:42,295 --> 00:18:43,774 You wanna tell us who you are? 397 00:18:45,820 --> 00:18:47,169 - My name is Amanda. 398 00:18:48,170 --> 00:18:49,171 I'm separated. 399 00:18:50,694 --> 00:18:53,262 My husband was unfaithful and left with another woman. 400 00:18:54,437 --> 00:18:57,223 We have two kids, boy and a girl, 401 00:18:57,397 --> 00:18:59,268 and they're eleven and eight years old, 402 00:18:59,442 --> 00:19:03,185 and this is the first time I've done anything like this. 403 00:19:04,839 --> 00:19:07,581 [birds chirping] 404 00:19:09,322 --> 00:19:11,150 - Good morning, Sue. - Morning, Dave. 405 00:19:11,324 --> 00:19:14,065 - Well, I went to that meeting last night. 406 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,589 - And? 407 00:19:15,763 --> 00:19:16,416 - It was just what I thought it was gonna be. 408 00:19:16,590 --> 00:19:18,157 - Which was? 409 00:19:18,331 --> 00:19:19,636 - Bunch of people sittin' around for an hour, 410 00:19:19,810 --> 00:19:21,247 sharing one heartache after another. 411 00:19:21,421 --> 00:19:22,770 The leader makes his introduction speech saying, 412 00:19:22,944 --> 00:19:25,338 "God has a purpose in this situation." 413 00:19:25,512 --> 00:19:26,774 You tell me, what purpose could God 414 00:19:26,948 --> 00:19:28,558 possibly have in allowing divorce? 415 00:19:28,732 --> 00:19:31,126 - God hates divorce. - Well, I got news for him. 416 00:19:31,300 --> 00:19:33,041 In case he hasn't noticed lately, there's an epidemic 417 00:19:33,215 --> 00:19:35,739 of it going on in this country, and more so in the church. 418 00:19:35,913 --> 00:19:37,567 You know, I read that there are more divorces among 419 00:19:37,741 --> 00:19:40,048 so-called Christians than there are in the secular world? 420 00:19:40,222 --> 00:19:41,441 And why is that? 421 00:19:41,615 --> 00:19:43,138 Nobody knows. 422 00:19:43,312 --> 00:19:45,184 Nobody's doing anything about it, either. 423 00:19:45,358 --> 00:19:46,446 - Sounds like you're made at God. 424 00:19:46,620 --> 00:19:48,056 - Why not? 425 00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:49,623 He's the one running the show, isn't he? 426 00:19:49,797 --> 00:19:51,102 - Look, I know how painful this is, Dave. 427 00:19:51,277 --> 00:19:53,104 Remember me, a few years ago? 428 00:19:53,279 --> 00:19:55,106 - It just doesn't make any sense. 429 00:19:55,281 --> 00:19:57,065 - I know, but trust me, the group will help. 430 00:19:57,239 --> 00:19:58,588 It's a place for you to vent. 431 00:19:58,762 --> 00:20:00,416 - "Vent?" 432 00:20:00,590 --> 00:20:01,504 I'm borderline wanting to rip somebody's head off, 433 00:20:01,678 --> 00:20:03,506 and we both know her name. 434 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,205 - I'm so sorry you're going through this, I really am. 435 00:20:07,336 --> 00:20:08,337 - Yeah, I know. 436 00:20:08,511 --> 00:20:09,991 Thanks. 437 00:20:10,165 --> 00:20:11,645 - But you're gonna get through this, Dave. 438 00:20:11,819 --> 00:20:13,386 It might not seem like it now, but you will. 439 00:20:14,604 --> 00:20:18,217 [dramatic orchestral music] 440 00:20:39,281 --> 00:20:42,719 [peaceful orchestral music] 441 00:20:50,727 --> 00:20:53,382 [melancholy orchestral music] 442 00:20:53,556 --> 00:20:56,255 [birds chirping] 443 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,217 - I heard another Dave and Mary song today. 444 00:21:02,391 --> 00:21:03,784 - Huh? 445 00:21:03,958 --> 00:21:05,264 - On the oldies station on the way in. 446 00:21:05,438 --> 00:21:06,482 Play a lot of songs from the '70s. 447 00:21:07,527 --> 00:21:08,441 - I thought you listened to the Word 448 00:21:08,615 --> 00:21:09,616 when you drove into work? 449 00:21:09,790 --> 00:21:11,139 - I do, usually. 450 00:21:11,313 --> 00:21:12,793 Just been catching a few tunes. 451 00:21:14,403 --> 00:21:15,883 - Must've been some girl. - She was, man. 452 00:21:16,057 --> 00:21:17,711 I told you, she was the greatest. 453 00:21:20,627 --> 00:21:22,672 I've been thinking about going to see her. 454 00:21:22,846 --> 00:21:24,370 - [Paul] What? 455 00:21:24,544 --> 00:21:26,328 - I've been thinking about going to see her. 456 00:21:26,502 --> 00:21:28,069 - No way, man. 457 00:21:28,243 --> 00:21:28,983 You don't need to be doing anything like that. 458 00:21:29,157 --> 00:21:30,680 Isn't she married? 459 00:21:30,854 --> 00:21:33,335 - Yeah, her name's Simmons now, Mary Simmons. 460 00:21:33,509 --> 00:21:34,815 At least, she was married last time I knew. 461 00:21:34,989 --> 00:21:36,164 She's got a couple of daughters, 462 00:21:36,338 --> 00:21:37,905 they must be college age by now. 463 00:21:38,079 --> 00:21:39,472 - Well, then you definitely need to stay away from her, 464 00:21:39,646 --> 00:21:41,517 if she's married and has a family. 465 00:21:41,691 --> 00:21:43,171 - I just wanna say hi. 466 00:21:43,345 --> 00:21:45,173 - Dave, no, that would be wrong. 467 00:21:45,347 --> 00:21:47,218 This ain't the Lord telling you to do this. 468 00:21:47,393 --> 00:21:48,872 - [Dave] Well, who is it then, the devil? 469 00:21:49,046 --> 00:21:51,222 - Well, sounds like you are telling you to do this. 470 00:21:51,397 --> 00:21:53,094 - Come on, man, I thought you were my friend. 471 00:21:53,268 --> 00:21:55,575 - I am your friend, I'm your best friend and that's why 472 00:21:55,749 --> 00:21:57,446 I'm telling you, you don't need to be going to see 473 00:21:57,620 --> 00:22:00,667 your old girlfriend, who's married with her own family. 474 00:22:00,841 --> 00:22:03,626 Now, nothing good can come of that, only trouble. 475 00:22:04,801 --> 00:22:07,238 - Nothing bad is gonna happen. 476 00:22:07,413 --> 00:22:09,806 - No, man, you wouldn't want your wife's old boyfriend 477 00:22:09,980 --> 00:22:12,505 coming around if the roles were reversed, would you? 478 00:22:14,071 --> 00:22:15,203 - I don't know. 479 00:22:15,377 --> 00:22:17,161 - Dave, come on, be serious. 480 00:22:17,336 --> 00:22:17,945 Would you? 481 00:22:21,078 --> 00:22:24,212 [phone rings] 482 00:22:24,386 --> 00:22:27,563 [phone rings] 483 00:22:27,737 --> 00:22:30,261 [phone rings] 484 00:22:30,436 --> 00:22:31,872 - Hello. 485 00:22:32,046 --> 00:22:32,873 - [Carla] May I speak with Dave, please? 486 00:22:33,047 --> 00:22:34,483 - Speaking. 487 00:22:34,657 --> 00:22:36,050 - [Carla] Dave, my name's Carla. 488 00:22:36,224 --> 00:22:37,617 I was at the divorce meeting last week. 489 00:22:37,791 --> 00:22:39,619 We didn't meet or anything, but, 490 00:22:39,793 --> 00:22:41,316 I noticed you weren't there tonight. 491 00:22:41,490 --> 00:22:42,752 - Well, I don't think I'm coming back. 492 00:22:42,926 --> 00:22:44,537 I just kinda went to check it out. 493 00:22:46,060 --> 00:22:47,191 - [Carla] I was wondering if we could talk for a minute. 494 00:22:47,366 --> 00:22:48,758 Do you have a moment? 495 00:22:48,932 --> 00:22:49,716 - Yes. 496 00:22:51,152 --> 00:22:53,589 - [Carla] I know you might think this is kind of strange but 497 00:22:53,763 --> 00:22:56,505 I feel like I'm supposed to talk to you. 498 00:22:56,679 --> 00:22:58,420 I wanted to talk to you last week, but I didn't get up 499 00:22:58,594 --> 00:23:00,901 the nerve and then I didn't see you there tonight. 500 00:23:01,075 --> 00:23:03,294 - Well, like I said, I don't think I'm coming back. 501 00:23:03,469 --> 00:23:05,688 Just out of curiosity, how did you get my number? 502 00:23:05,862 --> 00:23:07,647 - [Carla] I got it from the registration sheet. 503 00:23:07,821 --> 00:23:09,649 Look, I don't mean to bother you or anything. 504 00:23:09,823 --> 00:23:12,173 I just thought maybe you could use a friend. 505 00:23:13,087 --> 00:23:15,437 - I'm fine, really, thank you. 506 00:23:16,873 --> 00:23:20,355 - Well, then I thought maybe I could use a friend. 507 00:23:20,529 --> 00:23:22,662 Do you think we could just get together and talk? 508 00:23:25,708 --> 00:23:27,318 [coffee splashes] 509 00:23:27,493 --> 00:23:29,495 I was born and raised near Cleveland, 510 00:23:29,669 --> 00:23:31,366 but moved here after I got married. 511 00:23:31,540 --> 00:23:33,542 My husband was transferred with his job. 512 00:23:34,761 --> 00:23:37,503 I met him about 12 years ago, just after college. 513 00:23:38,460 --> 00:23:40,462 We only dated for eight months. 514 00:23:40,636 --> 00:23:42,986 He left after our ninth anniversary. 515 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,858 The divorce was filed another year later. 516 00:23:45,032 --> 00:23:46,381 We had no children. 517 00:23:46,555 --> 00:23:47,991 - [Dave] Was he a Christian? 518 00:23:48,165 --> 00:23:49,906 - He said he was. 519 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,647 - [Dave] Was there a Biblical reason for him to leave? 520 00:23:51,821 --> 00:23:53,388 - No, not at all. 521 00:23:53,562 --> 00:23:54,737 - [Dave] Why'd he leave, then? 522 00:23:56,217 --> 00:23:57,697 - Looking back, I realized that our relationship 523 00:23:57,871 --> 00:23:59,525 was based mostly on physical attraction. 524 00:23:59,699 --> 00:24:01,352 We didn't have a strong spiritual base 525 00:24:01,527 --> 00:24:03,746 and quickly grew apart over the years. 526 00:24:05,008 --> 00:24:07,533 We both knew that our marriage was a mistake, 527 00:24:07,707 --> 00:24:10,623 but I was committed to it, I didn't want it to end. 528 00:24:11,711 --> 00:24:14,322 We started arguing a lot and then one day, 529 00:24:14,496 --> 00:24:15,497 he decided to leave. 530 00:24:16,803 --> 00:24:19,327 You know, I think he got tired of trying, 531 00:24:19,501 --> 00:24:21,068 or at least tired of me. 532 00:24:23,026 --> 00:24:25,072 - Do you think he was seeing another woman? 533 00:24:26,508 --> 00:24:28,075 - I don't think so, but I don't know. 534 00:24:30,164 --> 00:24:32,775 - People get divorced today like it's nothing. 535 00:24:32,949 --> 00:24:35,517 They must think God's blind or something. 536 00:24:35,691 --> 00:24:37,388 Is it still hard for you? 537 00:24:37,563 --> 00:24:38,868 - No, not anymore. 538 00:24:39,042 --> 00:24:40,566 I wasn't devastated by it. 539 00:24:40,740 --> 00:24:42,829 I'd married the wrong person and I knew it. 540 00:24:43,003 --> 00:24:44,744 But I tried to stick with it and he didn't. 541 00:24:44,918 --> 00:24:46,876 - Well why do you go to the group, then? 542 00:24:47,050 --> 00:24:48,617 Listen to other people's stories? 543 00:24:49,705 --> 00:24:51,185 - Why I go to the group 544 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:52,926 has very little to do with my ex-husband. 545 00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:55,929 I go for something to do, for fellowship. 546 00:24:56,103 --> 00:24:58,018 It gets lonely sometimes and... 547 00:24:59,585 --> 00:25:01,021 It's really weird what your mind starts to do 548 00:25:01,195 --> 00:25:02,979 when you're alone again. 549 00:25:03,153 --> 00:25:04,024 - How do you mean? 550 00:25:06,592 --> 00:25:08,855 - Well, I hope you don't think this is silly, but, 551 00:25:10,073 --> 00:25:11,466 for a while, I was thinking a lot 552 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,294 about this guy I dated in high school. 553 00:25:14,164 --> 00:25:15,122 Pretty stupid, huh? 554 00:25:16,515 --> 00:25:17,516 - In high school? 555 00:25:17,690 --> 00:25:19,387 - Yeah. 556 00:25:19,561 --> 00:25:21,650 His name was Brian, he was a great guy. 557 00:25:21,824 --> 00:25:23,609 We got along really well. 558 00:25:24,914 --> 00:25:26,612 We dated for almost two years. 559 00:25:27,917 --> 00:25:29,397 I must've been pretty lonely to be thinking about him. 560 00:25:29,571 --> 00:25:30,180 Don't you think? 561 00:25:31,355 --> 00:25:33,488 - Oh, I don't know. [chuckles] 562 00:25:33,662 --> 00:25:35,621 So what happened to the happy couple? 563 00:25:35,795 --> 00:25:37,492 - After we'd been dating for about a year and a half, 564 00:25:37,666 --> 00:25:39,450 I just didn't feel the same way about him. 565 00:25:39,625 --> 00:25:41,496 I can't really explain it. 566 00:25:41,670 --> 00:25:44,586 I tried to keep it going, but I knew that it was gonna end. 567 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,546 So I broke up with him, the summer after we graduated. 568 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:48,982 I hurt him really badly. 569 00:25:50,940 --> 00:25:53,247 He's been married now for 13 years. 570 00:25:54,727 --> 00:25:55,902 And I'm divorced. 571 00:25:57,120 --> 00:25:58,034 - I'm sorry. 572 00:25:58,208 --> 00:25:58,992 - Me, too. 573 00:26:00,863 --> 00:26:02,256 He was my first love. 574 00:26:03,736 --> 00:26:05,955 You know what they say about first loves. 575 00:26:06,129 --> 00:26:07,870 [Dave chuckles] 576 00:26:08,044 --> 00:26:10,003 - So when was the last time you saw him? 577 00:26:12,309 --> 00:26:14,355 - About seven or eight years. 578 00:26:15,574 --> 00:26:16,879 Seven and a half, at least. 579 00:26:22,232 --> 00:26:24,365 So, why did you go to the group? 580 00:26:28,674 --> 00:26:30,763 - My wife left me about a year and a half ago, 581 00:26:30,937 --> 00:26:33,766 but we've been officially divorced for five months. 582 00:26:33,940 --> 00:26:36,464 I have two daughters, 15 and 17. 583 00:26:36,638 --> 00:26:39,554 Joint custody, she gets them one week, I get them the other. 584 00:26:39,728 --> 00:26:41,817 Monday to Monday, one phone call a night. 585 00:26:41,991 --> 00:26:43,253 - [Carla] So what happened? 586 00:26:44,733 --> 00:26:45,908 - She said she didn't have feelings for me, 587 00:26:46,082 --> 00:26:47,693 and she didn't love me anymore. 588 00:26:49,172 --> 00:26:50,173 That's not the real reason, though, 589 00:26:50,347 --> 00:26:52,480 that's just the one she gave me. 590 00:26:52,654 --> 00:26:53,263 - [Carla] Oh? 591 00:26:54,874 --> 00:26:57,616 - She started seeing another man before we were separated. 592 00:26:59,356 --> 00:27:02,011 - [Carla] How do you know? 593 00:27:02,185 --> 00:27:03,099 - I know. 594 00:27:03,273 --> 00:27:04,579 - [Carla] Are you sure? 595 00:27:04,753 --> 00:27:05,972 - Yes, I'm sure. 596 00:27:09,715 --> 00:27:10,716 - Is she a Christian? 597 00:27:12,282 --> 00:27:13,240 - Said she was. 598 00:27:15,721 --> 00:27:16,678 - Biblical reason to leave? 599 00:27:16,852 --> 00:27:18,506 [Dave chuckles] 600 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:19,594 - Not at all. 601 00:27:19,768 --> 00:27:21,596 - That sounds familiar. 602 00:27:21,770 --> 00:27:24,033 - Yeah. [chuckles] 603 00:27:25,774 --> 00:27:27,733 Anyway, the last thing I ever wanted was to be divorced, 604 00:27:27,907 --> 00:27:29,299 and have my family split up. 605 00:27:30,779 --> 00:27:32,694 I've remained faithful to her, even till now. 606 00:27:34,087 --> 00:27:35,871 - Are you still hoping she'll come back? 607 00:27:36,045 --> 00:27:38,308 - I don't know what I'm hoping for anymore. 608 00:27:38,482 --> 00:27:41,268 I mean, the girls and I prayed about it and they want it. 609 00:27:42,922 --> 00:27:45,359 And she's dated quite a few men since she left. 610 00:27:46,795 --> 00:27:48,449 It's a nightmare, any way you look at it. 611 00:27:49,755 --> 00:27:52,105 - How are your daughters taking all of this? 612 00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:54,760 - They're going along with it, I mean what else can they do? 613 00:27:54,934 --> 00:27:58,285 They go back and forth from house to house, it's awful. 614 00:27:58,459 --> 00:28:01,941 If that's what she wants, [chuckles] at least she's happy. 615 00:28:02,115 --> 00:28:04,900 - She's not happy, Dave, she just thinks that she is. 616 00:28:06,423 --> 00:28:08,861 One day, she is gonna wake up and realize what she's done. 617 00:28:09,035 --> 00:28:10,819 - Yeah, I'd like to see that. 618 00:28:10,993 --> 00:28:11,777 But I doubt it. 619 00:28:13,082 --> 00:28:15,563 No, she's doing what she does best. 620 00:28:15,737 --> 00:28:18,697 Hurt people, cause trouble, be contentious, bring chaos. 621 00:28:18,871 --> 00:28:20,307 That is my beautiful ex-bride. 622 00:28:22,962 --> 00:28:24,833 Sorry, I shouldn't be saying any of this. 623 00:28:25,007 --> 00:28:25,834 - No, it's okay. 624 00:28:27,270 --> 00:28:29,751 - I've got nobody to blame but myself. 625 00:28:29,925 --> 00:28:31,884 I didn't marry the right person, either. 626 00:28:33,146 --> 00:28:34,756 I was totally faithful to her and committed to my family, 627 00:28:34,930 --> 00:28:37,977 and I just made a wrong choice. 628 00:28:41,154 --> 00:28:43,678 You know when you said you dated for eight months? 629 00:28:43,852 --> 00:28:44,723 I've got you beat. 630 00:28:45,811 --> 00:28:46,812 Seven and a half. 631 00:28:48,378 --> 00:28:50,946 And we got married for the physical attraction, too, 632 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,253 so I can totally relate. 633 00:28:53,427 --> 00:28:54,428 - Join the club, huh? 634 00:28:55,821 --> 00:28:56,822 - Join the club. 635 00:29:00,042 --> 00:29:03,916 Anyway, lately it's not my ex that I've been thinking about. 636 00:29:05,091 --> 00:29:06,396 You know on the phone when you said you felt 637 00:29:06,570 --> 00:29:08,747 like you were supposed to talk to me? 638 00:29:08,921 --> 00:29:10,661 Well, let's just say, 639 00:29:10,836 --> 00:29:12,228 I'm normally pretty skeptical about things like that, 640 00:29:12,402 --> 00:29:14,709 but I think maybe this time I was wrong. 641 00:29:14,883 --> 00:29:16,145 See, I've been thinking about this girl 642 00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:17,973 that I dated in high school. 643 00:29:19,235 --> 00:29:22,978 Her name was Mary and she was my first love, too. 644 00:29:24,066 --> 00:29:25,546 - How long were you together? 645 00:29:26,982 --> 00:29:29,115 - Two years, four months, 28 days. 646 00:29:30,290 --> 00:29:32,161 - You mean you know exactly? 647 00:29:32,335 --> 00:29:33,859 - [chuckles] Yes. 648 00:29:35,512 --> 00:29:36,905 She was a great girl. 649 00:29:38,167 --> 00:29:39,995 And we had been dating for about nine months when I went 650 00:29:40,169 --> 00:29:42,258 off to college and she was in her last year of high school. 651 00:29:42,432 --> 00:29:44,217 I used to come home every weekend to see her. 652 00:29:44,391 --> 00:29:46,306 We'd write two or three letters a week. 653 00:29:48,438 --> 00:29:50,179 And then in the spring of '75, 654 00:29:50,353 --> 00:29:54,836 I woke up at college one day and something had changed. 655 00:29:56,838 --> 00:29:58,405 I don't know how or why, but I, 656 00:30:00,886 --> 00:30:03,236 I just wasn't as excited to see her as I used to be. 657 00:30:06,065 --> 00:30:09,068 We continued to date until June of '76, 658 00:30:10,417 --> 00:30:11,810 then I broke it off with her. 659 00:30:12,941 --> 00:30:14,421 We didn't fight or anything, I, 660 00:30:16,336 --> 00:30:17,598 I just lost it for her. 661 00:30:20,906 --> 00:30:21,950 And I don't know why. 662 00:30:31,220 --> 00:30:33,396 [fax machine whines] 663 00:30:33,570 --> 00:30:36,008 [phone rings] 664 00:30:37,618 --> 00:30:39,359 Good morning, Susie Q. 665 00:30:39,533 --> 00:30:40,969 - You're in a good mood. 666 00:30:41,143 --> 00:30:42,579 What's her name? 667 00:30:42,753 --> 00:30:45,191 - Actually, my dear friend, I did meet someone. 668 00:30:52,633 --> 00:30:54,896 - So, does this woman have a name? 669 00:30:55,070 --> 00:30:57,768 - Her name is Carla and it's nice to know that I'm not alone 670 00:30:57,943 --> 00:30:59,770 in what I've been thinking and feeling. 671 00:30:59,945 --> 00:31:01,816 - Carla, nice name! 672 00:31:01,990 --> 00:31:04,819 - It's not what you think, she's much younger than I am. 673 00:31:04,993 --> 00:31:06,429 - So, where'd you meet her? 674 00:31:06,603 --> 00:31:08,301 - At the divorce recovery group. 675 00:31:08,475 --> 00:31:10,259 - Ah-hah, I thought you weren't gonna go back there? 676 00:31:10,433 --> 00:31:11,826 - I didn't. 677 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,349 - Then I don't get it. 678 00:31:13,523 --> 00:31:14,873 - She called me. 679 00:31:15,047 --> 00:31:16,787 - And now you can't stop thinking about her. 680 00:31:16,962 --> 00:31:19,442 - Actually, it's not Carla that I've been thinking about. 681 00:31:19,616 --> 00:31:20,922 - Your ex? 682 00:31:21,096 --> 00:31:22,315 - Nope. 683 00:31:22,489 --> 00:31:24,099 - Not your ex? 684 00:31:24,273 --> 00:31:25,840 Okay, I have no idea what you're talking about. 685 00:31:26,014 --> 00:31:27,015 - Her name is Mary. 686 00:31:27,189 --> 00:31:28,756 - Mary? Who's Mary? 687 00:31:28,930 --> 00:31:30,453 - Mary is a girl that I dated 688 00:31:30,627 --> 00:31:32,325 for about two and a half years, 689 00:31:32,499 --> 00:31:34,762 who I haven't seen in almost 25 years, 690 00:31:34,936 --> 00:31:36,895 who's probably very happily married, 691 00:31:37,069 --> 00:31:40,159 while I'm very miserably divorced, and who, if I'd married, 692 00:31:40,333 --> 00:31:42,248 I wouldn't be in this nightmare today. 693 00:31:42,422 --> 00:31:43,771 How's that for an explanation? 694 00:31:43,945 --> 00:31:45,251 - And all of this came to light 695 00:31:45,425 --> 00:31:46,948 because you met a woman named Carla? 696 00:31:47,122 --> 00:31:49,037 - Not all of it, but some of it. 697 00:31:49,211 --> 00:31:51,170 - Why have you never mentioned Mary to me? 698 00:31:51,344 --> 00:31:52,867 - Well, when you're married, 699 00:31:53,041 --> 00:31:54,434 you don't usually talk about your old girlfriends. 700 00:31:54,608 --> 00:31:57,132 - I guess not, so what about Carla, then? 701 00:31:57,306 --> 00:31:58,133 [bright orchestral music] 702 00:31:58,307 --> 00:32:00,179 - Carla is a new friend, 703 00:32:00,353 --> 00:32:02,094 who is going through the same thing that I'm going through. 704 00:32:02,268 --> 00:32:04,618 - So maybe that meeting wasn't a waste of time after all? 705 00:32:05,924 --> 00:32:08,578 [Dave chuckles] 706 00:32:11,581 --> 00:32:13,018 - Hey, girl. - Oh, what a morning. 707 00:32:13,192 --> 00:32:15,411 The phone has been ringing off the hook. 708 00:32:15,585 --> 00:32:17,152 How you doin'? - I'm fine. 709 00:32:17,326 --> 00:32:19,328 - How was the meeting? - It was good. 710 00:32:19,502 --> 00:32:21,026 - Did you meet someone? 711 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,592 - You know, every time I go to that meeting, 712 00:32:22,766 --> 00:32:24,768 you always ask me that. - Oh, I do not. 713 00:32:24,943 --> 00:32:25,944 - Yes, you do. 714 00:32:26,118 --> 00:32:26,901 - Really? 715 00:32:27,075 --> 00:32:27,641 I hadn't noticed. 716 00:32:28,555 --> 00:32:30,122 - Have my samples come in? 717 00:32:30,296 --> 00:32:31,950 - They're on the table. - Thank you very much. 718 00:32:35,214 --> 00:32:36,389 - Well, did you? 719 00:32:36,563 --> 00:32:37,346 - What? 720 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:38,826 - Meet someone. 721 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,175 - Oh, I kinda like this one. 722 00:32:40,349 --> 00:32:42,003 - Carla? - What do you think? 723 00:32:42,177 --> 00:32:44,049 - I think you're avoiding the question, yes or no? 724 00:32:45,224 --> 00:32:46,051 - Sort of. 725 00:32:47,530 --> 00:32:50,229 - How do you "sort of" meet someone? 726 00:32:50,403 --> 00:32:52,013 - It's hard to explain. 727 00:32:52,187 --> 00:32:52,971 - Try me. 728 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,364 - It was nothing. 729 00:32:55,538 --> 00:32:56,800 - Does this one have potential? 730 00:32:56,975 --> 00:32:57,976 - Oh, don't be silly. 731 00:32:58,150 --> 00:32:59,716 - Carla, I am your best friend. 732 00:32:59,890 --> 00:33:01,501 - Nikki, I just spoke with a man, that's all. 733 00:33:01,675 --> 00:33:04,069 He's just a friend, and besides, he's much older than I am. 734 00:33:04,243 --> 00:33:06,941 - Well, love comes in many packages. 735 00:33:07,115 --> 00:33:08,769 - Okay, I've gotta go meet a client. 736 00:33:10,162 --> 00:33:11,511 - What's his name? 737 00:33:11,685 --> 00:33:12,816 - Bye. 738 00:33:12,991 --> 00:33:14,209 - [Nikki] His name? 739 00:33:14,383 --> 00:33:15,341 - Bye! 740 00:33:15,515 --> 00:33:17,299 - Carla! 741 00:33:17,473 --> 00:33:18,257 - Brian. 742 00:33:21,564 --> 00:33:26,526 [keyboard clacks] [bright orchestral music] 743 00:34:01,778 --> 00:34:02,997 - [Dave] I wanna go see her. 744 00:34:03,171 --> 00:34:04,912 - Go see Mary? - Mm-hm. 745 00:34:05,086 --> 00:34:08,219 I'm gonna get in a plane, fly to New York and see her. 746 00:34:08,393 --> 00:34:10,264 Does that sound crazy? 747 00:34:10,438 --> 00:34:13,572 I just wanna talk to her for a while, just me and her alone. 748 00:34:13,746 --> 00:34:14,965 Can you relate? 749 00:34:15,139 --> 00:34:16,619 - Perfectly. 750 00:34:16,793 --> 00:34:18,969 - Did you ever feel like that with Brian? 751 00:34:19,143 --> 00:34:20,623 - Several times. 752 00:34:20,797 --> 00:34:22,625 - You ever think about calling him? 753 00:34:22,799 --> 00:34:26,063 - Yeah, but I can't, I mean, he's married now, 754 00:34:26,237 --> 00:34:28,978 and I'm not gonna do anything to hurt that. 755 00:34:29,154 --> 00:34:31,678 Besides, my troubles aren't his problem. 756 00:34:31,851 --> 00:34:33,549 - So you've had no contact with him, 757 00:34:33,723 --> 00:34:35,203 other than that time, eight years ago? 758 00:34:35,377 --> 00:34:36,683 - And that was by accident, I mean, 759 00:34:36,857 --> 00:34:38,511 we just sort of ran into each other. 760 00:34:38,685 --> 00:34:39,947 - But don't you ever wanna see him or talk to him? 761 00:34:40,121 --> 00:34:41,992 - Yes, but I can't. 762 00:34:42,167 --> 00:34:44,516 He's married and that settles it. 763 00:34:44,690 --> 00:34:46,344 I had my chance with him. 764 00:34:47,824 --> 00:34:49,956 What's that old saying, "you're the master of your decisions 765 00:34:50,130 --> 00:34:51,871 but the slave of your choices." 766 00:34:52,045 --> 00:34:54,483 - I don't wanna have a guilt complex about seeing Mary. 767 00:34:54,657 --> 00:34:57,486 I don't wanna break up her marriage or anything. 768 00:34:57,660 --> 00:34:59,227 - Well, then what do you want? 769 00:34:59,401 --> 00:35:01,011 [melancholy orchestral music] 770 00:35:01,186 --> 00:35:01,795 - I don't know. 771 00:35:03,797 --> 00:35:05,451 I think I wanna apologize to her. 772 00:35:07,235 --> 00:35:10,717 I want her to know how sorry I am for breaking up with her. 773 00:35:10,891 --> 00:35:13,981 I wanna tell her what a great person I thought she was. 774 00:35:14,155 --> 00:35:15,722 I want her to know that. 775 00:35:15,896 --> 00:35:18,333 - When I saw Brian, it wasn't the same. 776 00:35:19,856 --> 00:35:22,032 Too many things had happened from the time that we dated 777 00:35:22,207 --> 00:35:23,382 to when I saw him again. 778 00:35:24,861 --> 00:35:28,038 I was remembering the guy that I dated. 779 00:35:28,213 --> 00:35:29,692 Not the man he is now. 780 00:35:29,866 --> 00:35:31,520 - I understand. 781 00:35:31,694 --> 00:35:34,349 It's just that I had such a deep love for Mary. 782 00:35:34,523 --> 00:35:36,090 That first year we were together? 783 00:35:36,264 --> 00:35:37,918 It was the most fantastic feeling in my life. 784 00:35:39,354 --> 00:35:40,573 It was like I couldn't be with her enough, 785 00:35:40,747 --> 00:35:42,140 and she felt the same. 786 00:35:42,314 --> 00:35:44,403 - But that girl doesn't exist anymore. 787 00:35:44,577 --> 00:35:45,839 She's only in your memory. 788 00:35:47,406 --> 00:35:50,191 - I know, I just wanna see her, I wanna talk to her. 789 00:35:51,366 --> 00:35:52,846 She was such a beautiful girl. 790 00:35:55,283 --> 00:35:57,720 - What if she looks completely different now? 791 00:35:57,894 --> 00:35:59,244 - She probably does. 792 00:36:01,246 --> 00:36:02,247 I still wanna see her. 793 00:36:04,205 --> 00:36:05,685 - You really loved her, didn't you? 794 00:36:07,295 --> 00:36:08,340 - Yeah. 795 00:36:08,514 --> 00:36:10,516 I did. 796 00:36:10,690 --> 00:36:12,648 Those were the greatest days of my life. 797 00:36:18,915 --> 00:36:20,743 - So, do you think he likes you? 798 00:36:20,917 --> 00:36:22,441 - Would you stop? 799 00:36:22,615 --> 00:36:24,225 It's not like that, you have a one-track mind. 800 00:36:24,399 --> 00:36:26,445 - Can I help it that I want you to be as happy as I am? 801 00:36:26,619 --> 00:36:29,056 - It's like I told you before, I am not seeking anybody out. 802 00:36:29,230 --> 00:36:30,797 At least, I'm not trying to. 803 00:36:30,971 --> 00:36:32,712 - Okay, so what're you trying to do, then? 804 00:36:32,886 --> 00:36:34,453 - I am trying to wait on the Lord. 805 00:36:34,627 --> 00:36:36,368 - Well, I can't argue with that. 806 00:36:36,542 --> 00:36:38,108 So why did he call you? 807 00:36:38,283 --> 00:36:40,023 - We have something very much in common. 808 00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:41,590 - Oh, yeah, what's that? 809 00:36:41,764 --> 00:36:43,810 - My Brian is his Mary. 810 00:36:45,333 --> 00:36:46,334 - His first love? 811 00:36:47,814 --> 00:36:51,165 - The hardest part for me has been getting over the hurt. 812 00:36:51,339 --> 00:36:53,602 I don't think you ever get over the hurt. 813 00:36:53,776 --> 00:36:55,691 - Speaking from a man's perspective, 814 00:36:55,865 --> 00:36:57,345 I think the only thing that really helps you 815 00:36:57,519 --> 00:37:00,130 get over the hurt is another love interest. 816 00:37:00,305 --> 00:37:02,611 Someone else to love and someone who loves you. 817 00:37:02,785 --> 00:37:05,179 - [Group Leader] The Lord can heal your hurt. 818 00:37:05,353 --> 00:37:07,094 - But in my case, he hasn't. 819 00:37:07,268 --> 00:37:09,401 I'm still hurting very much. 820 00:37:09,575 --> 00:37:11,316 - All I know is that I was totally devastated 821 00:37:11,490 --> 00:37:13,840 by my situation and the only thing that's been helping 822 00:37:14,014 --> 00:37:16,799 is the fact that I've been thinking about another woman. 823 00:37:16,973 --> 00:37:18,801 It's helping ease the pain. 824 00:37:18,975 --> 00:37:21,413 - I agree, I think meeting someone else, 825 00:37:21,587 --> 00:37:24,459 or even thinking about someone else really does help. 826 00:37:24,633 --> 00:37:28,115 - Let's face it, divorce is total destruction of the heart. 827 00:37:28,289 --> 00:37:31,161 It's like a grenade goes off inside and shatters you 828 00:37:31,336 --> 00:37:32,859 into a million little pieces. 829 00:37:33,033 --> 00:37:35,383 Now I know the Lord can put 'em back together again, 830 00:37:35,557 --> 00:37:36,602 but how does he do it? 831 00:37:38,299 --> 00:37:40,475 I think maybe he brings in another love. 832 00:37:41,998 --> 00:37:45,437 Someone even greater than what you thought you had before. 833 00:37:45,611 --> 00:37:48,483 Only another person can really heal the hurt. 834 00:37:48,657 --> 00:37:49,702 That's how I see it. 835 00:38:09,374 --> 00:38:11,158 - So, you spoke up a bit tonight. 836 00:38:11,332 --> 00:38:12,768 You getting into this a little? 837 00:38:12,942 --> 00:38:15,336 - I don't know why I say anything at all. 838 00:38:15,510 --> 00:38:16,946 I'm the one who needs the answers. 839 00:38:19,558 --> 00:38:20,907 You know, in the few times I've talked with you, 840 00:38:21,081 --> 00:38:23,562 I've never even asked you what you do. 841 00:38:23,736 --> 00:38:27,305 I'm sorry, it shows you how consumed I am with myself. 842 00:38:27,479 --> 00:38:29,089 - That's all right. 843 00:38:29,263 --> 00:38:31,483 I'm an interior decorator, I own my own business. 844 00:38:31,657 --> 00:38:33,223 - No kidding. 845 00:38:33,398 --> 00:38:34,529 - Yeah, I've been doing it for several years. 846 00:38:34,703 --> 00:38:36,444 - You still like it? - I do. 847 00:38:36,618 --> 00:38:38,838 - You do okay with it? - I do okay. 848 00:38:39,012 --> 00:38:40,753 - How do you get business? 849 00:38:40,927 --> 00:38:43,146 - Well, I have my name in some places around the city, 850 00:38:43,321 --> 00:38:44,887 plus word of mouth. 851 00:38:45,061 --> 00:38:46,367 The Lord keeps me goin'. 852 00:38:46,541 --> 00:38:47,803 - Sounds good. 853 00:38:47,977 --> 00:38:48,761 Glad for ya. 854 00:38:52,460 --> 00:38:54,288 - So, I guess I'll just see you next week. 855 00:38:54,462 --> 00:38:58,553 - Hey, listen, um, the girls are with their mother tonight. 856 00:38:58,727 --> 00:39:00,642 Do you wanna get a cup of coffee or somethin'? 857 00:39:01,556 --> 00:39:03,341 - What'd you guys talk about? 858 00:39:03,515 --> 00:39:05,299 - Different things, but mostly about Mary. 859 00:39:05,473 --> 00:39:07,736 - [chuckles] Okay, this guy is starting to sound obsessed. 860 00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:09,564 - I can tell she was really special to him. 861 00:39:09,738 --> 00:39:12,262 She was an artist, she used to make him things. 862 00:39:12,437 --> 00:39:13,351 - [Nikki] Oh, yeah, like that? 863 00:39:13,525 --> 00:39:15,483 - Like anniversary cards. 864 00:39:15,657 --> 00:39:17,442 - What do you mean, anniversary cards? 865 00:39:17,616 --> 00:39:19,574 - You know, "we've been together six months, nine months," 866 00:39:19,748 --> 00:39:21,446 that sort of thing? 867 00:39:21,620 --> 00:39:23,361 She used to make him something different every month. 868 00:39:23,535 --> 00:39:25,972 One time, she took a glass bottle and put little memories 869 00:39:26,146 --> 00:39:27,713 and pictures of their relationship inside it. 870 00:39:27,887 --> 00:39:29,932 - Oh, very romantic. 871 00:39:30,106 --> 00:39:31,456 All right, so if this girl was so special, 872 00:39:31,630 --> 00:39:33,240 why did he break up with her? 873 00:39:33,414 --> 00:39:34,937 - I asked him about that last night. 874 00:39:36,417 --> 00:39:37,940 - There were two things that hurt our relationship, 875 00:39:38,114 --> 00:39:40,378 and they were both my fault. 876 00:39:40,552 --> 00:39:43,685 I was a very immature person and then I was jealous. 877 00:39:43,859 --> 00:39:46,949 I didn't wanna be, but I was. 878 00:39:47,123 --> 00:39:49,952 And she never gave me a reason to be jealous. 879 00:39:50,126 --> 00:39:52,041 I was just possessive. 880 00:39:52,215 --> 00:39:54,957 I was even jealous of guys she dated before I came along. 881 00:39:55,131 --> 00:39:57,395 - A lot of teenage boys are like that. 882 00:39:57,569 --> 00:39:58,570 - I was pretty bad. 883 00:39:59,788 --> 00:40:01,834 Anyway, that hurt our relationship. 884 00:40:02,008 --> 00:40:04,010 - What was the second thing? 885 00:40:04,184 --> 00:40:05,620 [melancholy orchestral music] 886 00:40:05,794 --> 00:40:07,361 - After I'd gone to college for a while, 887 00:40:07,535 --> 00:40:09,407 I thought I wanted to date other girls. 888 00:40:10,495 --> 00:40:11,887 I don't know why. 889 00:40:12,061 --> 00:40:13,976 I already had the perfect one for me. 890 00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:15,630 - Dave, almost everyone has a first love 891 00:40:15,804 --> 00:40:17,545 that they don't marry. 892 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:18,677 - I really blew it. 893 00:40:20,940 --> 00:40:25,335 If I could, I would go back and start all over. 894 00:40:25,510 --> 00:40:27,729 And this time, I wouldn't let her go. 895 00:40:27,903 --> 00:40:29,775 - But you didn't have Christ back then. 896 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,604 - And I don't have her now. 897 00:40:33,866 --> 00:40:36,346 - Now I'm starting to feel sorry for this guy. 898 00:40:36,521 --> 00:40:37,783 Have you seen a picture of her? 899 00:40:37,957 --> 00:40:39,828 - No. - Well, where is she now? 900 00:40:40,002 --> 00:40:42,352 - In New York State, about 20 miles from where they grew up. 901 00:40:42,527 --> 00:40:43,963 - So he left and she stayed? 902 00:40:44,137 --> 00:40:45,573 - Yeah. 903 00:40:45,747 --> 00:40:47,662 - Carla, you are an attractive woman. 904 00:40:47,836 --> 00:40:49,490 Do you think he's interested in you? 905 00:40:49,664 --> 00:40:50,665 - I don't know. 906 00:40:50,839 --> 00:40:52,624 - Are you interested in him? 907 00:40:52,798 --> 00:40:54,364 - I don't know that, either. 908 00:40:54,539 --> 00:40:55,714 All I do know is that I've walked 909 00:40:55,888 --> 00:40:57,498 the road that he's on right now. 910 00:40:57,672 --> 00:40:58,804 I've gone through all of the emotions 911 00:40:58,978 --> 00:41:00,719 of wanting my first love again. 912 00:41:00,893 --> 00:41:03,373 - You've never sounded as bad off as this guy. 913 00:41:03,548 --> 00:41:04,810 - Well, maybe my relationship with Brian 914 00:41:04,984 --> 00:41:06,725 wasn't the same as his with Mary. 915 00:41:06,899 --> 00:41:08,509 - Maybe? 916 00:41:08,683 --> 00:41:10,859 We're talking about a girl he dated 30 years ago. 917 00:41:11,033 --> 00:41:12,861 [chuckles] She must've been really something. 918 00:41:13,035 --> 00:41:14,820 - Yeah, she must have been. 919 00:41:17,562 --> 00:41:18,867 - Do we need potatoes? 920 00:41:19,041 --> 00:41:19,738 - I think so. 921 00:41:19,912 --> 00:41:20,739 - Yes, we do. 922 00:41:21,653 --> 00:41:22,915 - Russet or red? 923 00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:24,612 - Take your pick. 924 00:41:26,527 --> 00:41:27,789 - Oh, hey, there's Mom. 925 00:41:28,877 --> 00:41:32,664 [melancholy orchestral music] 926 00:42:50,742 --> 00:42:52,613 - You should've called him. 927 00:42:52,787 --> 00:42:54,484 - He had his girls all weekend, he was probably busy. 928 00:42:54,659 --> 00:42:56,051 - You still should've called. 929 00:42:57,792 --> 00:42:59,533 - Maybe I should stop meeting him. 930 00:42:59,707 --> 00:43:01,056 - Incredible, she meets a guy she likes, 931 00:43:01,230 --> 00:43:02,536 and he doesn't even know she's there. 932 00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:04,538 - I don't like anybody. 933 00:43:04,712 --> 00:43:06,105 - Oh, no? - No. 934 00:43:06,279 --> 00:43:07,628 - I think you do. 935 00:43:07,802 --> 00:43:09,848 - Well, you think wrong, he's just a friend. 936 00:43:10,022 --> 00:43:11,197 Someone to talk to. 937 00:43:13,242 --> 00:43:14,548 I don't know why I tell you anything. 938 00:43:14,722 --> 00:43:16,376 I mean, I even talk to a guy, 939 00:43:16,550 --> 00:43:17,812 and you've got me walking down the aisle with him. 940 00:43:17,986 --> 00:43:19,422 - Who, me? 941 00:43:19,597 --> 00:43:21,468 - Besides, he's 13 years older than I am, 942 00:43:21,642 --> 00:43:26,516 and if we were to be married, when he was 95 I'd only be 82. 943 00:43:26,691 --> 00:43:29,128 - [gasps] Oh, we wouldn't want that now, would we? 944 00:43:36,352 --> 00:43:37,658 - Hey, Dave. 945 00:43:38,746 --> 00:43:40,313 Come here, I wanna show you something. 946 00:43:42,881 --> 00:43:43,708 Check it out. 947 00:43:51,672 --> 00:43:53,065 - Well, look at this. 948 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,503 Seven-day cruise, five ports of call. 949 00:43:56,677 --> 00:43:57,722 And here I thought you were all talk. 950 00:43:57,896 --> 00:43:59,549 - No way, man. 951 00:43:59,724 --> 00:44:02,030 This is the second honeymoon that is long overdue. 952 00:44:02,204 --> 00:44:04,598 I went online this morning to check the weather. 953 00:44:04,772 --> 00:44:07,688 68 degrees here, 86 degrees there. 954 00:44:07,862 --> 00:44:09,342 I love hot weather. 955 00:44:09,516 --> 00:44:11,126 - Well, I'm glad for ya, when do you leave? 956 00:44:11,300 --> 00:44:13,868 - In four weeks, and I am looking forward to it. 957 00:44:14,042 --> 00:44:16,088 You just try and keep things in order while I'm gone. 958 00:44:16,262 --> 00:44:18,960 I don't wanna come back to an office that needs patching up. 959 00:44:19,134 --> 00:44:20,440 - Well, we'll do our best. 960 00:44:23,748 --> 00:44:25,575 - Are you all right, Dave? 961 00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:26,664 You know I wasn't trying to hurt you, 962 00:44:26,838 --> 00:44:27,926 showing you these tickets? 963 00:44:28,883 --> 00:44:30,755 I apologize if I was insensitive. 964 00:44:31,407 --> 00:44:33,105 - No, you were fine, Paul. 965 00:44:33,279 --> 00:44:35,368 I'm glad for you, [chuckles] really, I am. 966 00:44:36,282 --> 00:44:37,500 Thanks anyway. 967 00:44:37,675 --> 00:44:40,852 [light orchestral music] 968 00:45:03,875 --> 00:45:07,487 [peaceful orchestral music] 969 00:46:01,846 --> 00:46:05,763 [melancholy orchestral music] 970 00:46:33,225 --> 00:46:34,182 Hi. 971 00:46:34,356 --> 00:46:35,009 - Hi. 972 00:46:35,183 --> 00:46:36,228 - How you doin'? 973 00:46:36,402 --> 00:46:37,795 - I'm okay, how are you doin'? 974 00:46:37,969 --> 00:46:39,448 - Doin' good, I'm doin' good. 975 00:46:39,622 --> 00:46:40,754 You don't mind if I sit over on this side 976 00:46:40,928 --> 00:46:42,190 of the room tonight, do you? 977 00:46:42,364 --> 00:46:43,975 - No, not at all. 978 00:46:49,241 --> 00:46:50,068 - I, uh, 979 00:46:51,373 --> 00:46:52,940 I made a reservation today. 980 00:46:55,073 --> 00:46:56,988 - So how do you make sense of your life? 981 00:46:58,467 --> 00:47:01,122 My husband's seeing someone else, and that kills me. 982 00:47:02,907 --> 00:47:05,344 Even if he decided to come back, how do I... 983 00:47:07,955 --> 00:47:09,783 People say you need to forgive. 984 00:47:09,957 --> 00:47:13,091 Okay, I can, I can do that, but how do you forget? 985 00:47:14,396 --> 00:47:17,835 When I look ahead, I don't see daylight. 986 00:47:18,009 --> 00:47:20,359 I feel I'm walking in total darkness. 987 00:47:24,232 --> 00:47:26,017 - [Dave] I know exactly how she feels. 988 00:47:27,583 --> 00:47:29,107 - Can you offer her any advice? 989 00:47:30,282 --> 00:47:32,806 - You're the man with all the answers, not me. 990 00:47:32,980 --> 00:47:35,200 [group leader chuckles] 991 00:47:35,374 --> 00:47:37,289 - Well, I'm not sure there are any answers, 992 00:47:37,463 --> 00:47:39,857 when you're going through something like this. 993 00:47:40,031 --> 00:47:41,467 Nothing really makes sense. 994 00:47:42,990 --> 00:47:45,036 The hardest part's just accepting what's happened. 995 00:47:45,210 --> 00:47:48,082 And if you can do that, then you're on the road to healing. 996 00:47:49,344 --> 00:47:51,390 But most people have a hard time doing that. 997 00:47:53,087 --> 00:47:55,307 And so they deal with their hurt in different ways. 998 00:47:56,612 --> 00:47:58,963 And all of these are understandable. 999 00:47:59,137 --> 00:48:02,096 You know, some people tell themselves that they're okay. 1000 00:48:03,010 --> 00:48:04,664 That they can handle this, 1001 00:48:04,838 --> 00:48:06,884 that they're just going to be strong and move on. 1002 00:48:08,929 --> 00:48:12,106 But it's really only a front and usually, in time, 1003 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,064 they break down. 1004 00:48:14,935 --> 00:48:18,765 Some people get very bitter and angry. 1005 00:48:18,939 --> 00:48:21,333 And they stay that way for quite some time. 1006 00:48:21,507 --> 00:48:22,595 Makes them feel better. 1007 00:48:24,075 --> 00:48:28,601 But the Bible says that bitterness troubles us. 1008 00:48:30,951 --> 00:48:33,171 And so that's really not a road you wanna travel. 1009 00:48:34,955 --> 00:48:38,350 And others, [chuckles] tend to look backwards. 1010 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,180 Since it's only a nightmare when you look ahead, 1011 00:48:42,354 --> 00:48:46,053 you try to return to a more pleasant time in your life. 1012 00:48:47,141 --> 00:48:49,056 Or relive an old relationship. 1013 00:48:50,144 --> 00:48:51,841 [melancholy orchestral music] 1014 00:48:52,016 --> 00:48:55,541 But the key element is to accept the things that did happen, 1015 00:48:57,195 --> 00:48:59,023 and accept the things that didn't. 1016 00:49:02,113 --> 00:49:03,201 I know it's not easy, 1017 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:06,291 and you can't do this on your own. 1018 00:49:08,032 --> 00:49:09,337 In your time of deepest pain, 1019 00:49:09,511 --> 00:49:12,123 you really need to turn to the Lord. 1020 00:49:13,994 --> 00:49:17,737 Jesus Christ is the only one who can see you through this. 1021 00:49:34,145 --> 00:49:37,887 - I have concluded that separation and divorce are no fun. 1022 00:49:38,062 --> 00:49:39,367 - Agreed. 1023 00:49:39,541 --> 00:49:41,195 - We agree about a lot of things. 1024 00:49:41,369 --> 00:49:42,588 - Yeah, we do, don't we? 1025 00:49:44,372 --> 00:49:46,940 So, um, are you going home? 1026 00:49:47,114 --> 00:49:49,856 Do you wanna get something to eat? 1027 00:49:50,030 --> 00:49:51,945 - I'd like to, but I got the girls tonight, 1028 00:49:52,119 --> 00:49:53,816 so I should probably get home. 1029 00:49:53,991 --> 00:49:54,774 - Of course, yeah. 1030 00:49:56,036 --> 00:49:57,342 - So I guess I'll just, um, 1031 00:49:59,387 --> 00:50:01,128 I'll see you later, then. 1032 00:50:01,302 --> 00:50:02,260 - Okay. 1033 00:50:02,434 --> 00:50:03,217 - Okay. 1034 00:50:03,391 --> 00:50:04,827 Have a good night. 1035 00:50:05,002 --> 00:50:05,872 - You, too. 1036 00:50:06,046 --> 00:50:09,267 [light orchestral music] 1037 00:50:14,446 --> 00:50:15,838 - He's actually gonna go see her? 1038 00:50:16,013 --> 00:50:17,884 - He made a reservation. 1039 00:50:18,058 --> 00:50:20,452 - Is she gonna call her first? - I don't know, I didn't ask. 1040 00:50:20,626 --> 00:50:21,627 - Well, you don't think he's just gonna 1041 00:50:21,801 --> 00:50:23,237 show up on her doorstep, do you? 1042 00:50:23,411 --> 00:50:24,282 - I don't know. 1043 00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:30,288 - So he wants to go see his old girlfriend, who is married, 1044 00:50:30,462 --> 00:50:32,116 and he wants to see her alone? 1045 00:50:33,813 --> 00:50:35,815 How's he think he's gonna pull that off? 1046 00:50:40,124 --> 00:50:41,777 - My wife has already packed. 1047 00:50:41,951 --> 00:50:43,388 We don't leave for three weeks and she's ready to go. 1048 00:50:43,562 --> 00:50:44,998 - [chuckles] No kiddin'. 1049 00:50:45,172 --> 00:50:46,130 - I should've done this a long time ago. 1050 00:50:46,304 --> 00:50:47,740 - Yeah, but a long time ago, 1051 00:50:47,914 --> 00:50:50,090 you didn't have that big fat bonus check. 1052 00:50:50,264 --> 00:50:51,439 - You got any plans? 1053 00:50:51,613 --> 00:50:52,440 - Hm? 1054 00:50:52,614 --> 00:50:54,007 - Your bonus check. 1055 00:50:54,181 --> 00:50:55,269 Have you decided what you're gonna do with it? 1056 00:50:55,443 --> 00:50:56,401 - Not with all of it. 1057 00:50:57,532 --> 00:51:00,144 [phone rings] 1058 00:51:04,844 --> 00:51:07,151 - You're still going to that divorce recovery group, right? 1059 00:51:07,325 --> 00:51:08,152 - Yeah. 1060 00:51:09,370 --> 00:51:11,024 - Is it helping? 1061 00:51:11,198 --> 00:51:13,592 - Not really, I like talking to Carla. 1062 00:51:13,766 --> 00:51:15,159 That's why I keep going. 1063 00:51:16,116 --> 00:51:17,509 - Well, I guess it's helping, then. 1064 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:19,511 - Yeah, I guess. 1065 00:51:21,339 --> 00:51:23,167 - So, when do I get to meet this lady? 1066 00:51:24,516 --> 00:51:26,692 - We're just friends, we're a couple of people 1067 00:51:26,866 --> 00:51:30,304 going through the same thing at the same time, that's all. 1068 00:51:30,478 --> 00:51:31,218 - I understand. 1069 00:51:32,132 --> 00:51:36,005 [somber orchestral music] 1070 00:51:36,180 --> 00:51:39,183 [keyboard clacks] 1071 00:51:46,494 --> 00:51:49,106 [phone rings] 1072 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:50,150 - Yes. 1073 00:51:50,324 --> 00:51:52,109 - You have a visitor. 1074 00:51:52,283 --> 00:51:54,241 - Well, I'm not expecting anyone, did I miss a meeting? 1075 00:51:54,415 --> 00:51:56,113 - She says her name is Carla. 1076 00:51:59,159 --> 00:52:00,291 - Hey! - Hi. 1077 00:52:00,465 --> 00:52:01,422 - How are ya? - I'm good. 1078 00:52:01,596 --> 00:52:02,597 - Have you two met? 1079 00:52:02,771 --> 00:52:04,121 - Yes, we introduced ourselves. 1080 00:52:05,209 --> 00:52:10,301 - Come on in. 1081 00:52:14,522 --> 00:52:16,698 - Am I interrupting anything? - No, no, not at all. 1082 00:52:16,872 --> 00:52:18,744 - I just got a call this morning from a potential client 1083 00:52:18,918 --> 00:52:20,398 across the street and finished up there 1084 00:52:20,572 --> 00:52:22,139 and thought I'd stop by and say hello. 1085 00:52:22,313 --> 00:52:24,445 - Well, hello, please sit. 1086 00:52:24,619 --> 00:52:26,143 Hey, did you get the job? 1087 00:52:26,317 --> 00:52:28,536 - Yes, I did, they are completely renovating 1088 00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:30,408 their lobby area and meeting rooms. 1089 00:52:30,582 --> 00:52:34,368 - Wow, you must be quite the irresistible saleswoman. 1090 00:52:34,542 --> 00:52:37,110 - Actually, I pray a lot when I get a new client, 1091 00:52:37,284 --> 00:52:39,547 and remind the Lord that I've got bills to pay. 1092 00:52:39,721 --> 00:52:41,375 - Hey, when you're done over there, 1093 00:52:41,549 --> 00:52:43,160 do you think you can come and spice this place up? 1094 00:52:43,334 --> 00:52:45,249 - I think it looks pretty good in here. 1095 00:52:45,423 --> 00:52:47,164 - It's been like this for years. 1096 00:52:47,338 --> 00:52:48,469 - It still looks good. 1097 00:52:48,643 --> 00:52:49,862 [phone rings] - Excuse me. 1098 00:52:51,168 --> 00:52:52,169 Yes? 1099 00:52:54,258 --> 00:52:54,867 Which Thursday? 1100 00:52:56,303 --> 00:52:58,392 No, I can't, I'm gonna be out of town. 1101 00:52:58,566 --> 00:53:01,134 Right, so we're gonna have to do it the following week. 1102 00:53:01,308 --> 00:53:03,049 Oh, pick any day, but just make sure you run it by Paul. 1103 00:53:03,223 --> 00:53:06,183 We don't wanna interfere with his second honeymoon here. 1104 00:53:06,357 --> 00:53:07,575 Right. 1105 00:53:07,749 --> 00:53:08,620 Okay. 1106 00:53:08,794 --> 00:53:10,448 I'm sorry. 1107 00:53:10,622 --> 00:53:12,319 - [Carla] Is your trip to New York next Thursday? 1108 00:53:13,581 --> 00:53:14,626 - Yes, it is. 1109 00:53:15,844 --> 00:53:17,672 - I didn't realize it was coming so soon. 1110 00:53:17,846 --> 00:53:20,197 - And I'm feeling really nervous about this. 1111 00:53:20,371 --> 00:53:22,329 It's like the first time I met her, I was nervous then. 1112 00:53:22,503 --> 00:53:24,375 - I'm sure she was, too. 1113 00:53:24,549 --> 00:53:26,203 - Yeah but that's because she knew I was coming to meet her. 1114 00:53:26,377 --> 00:53:28,292 This time, she doesn't know I'm coming at all. 1115 00:53:28,466 --> 00:53:30,032 - Well, then she won't have time to get nervous. 1116 00:53:30,207 --> 00:53:31,904 [Dave chuckles] 1117 00:53:32,078 --> 00:53:34,211 - You know, I wonder how she's gonna respond to this. 1118 00:53:34,385 --> 00:53:36,691 - Well, if she loved you the way you said she did, 1119 00:53:36,865 --> 00:53:39,128 then all the memories will be there. 1120 00:53:39,303 --> 00:53:42,088 I think when you date someone for that length of time, 1121 00:53:42,262 --> 00:53:43,655 you give them a piece of your heart, 1122 00:53:43,829 --> 00:53:45,352 and I don't think you ever get it back. 1123 00:53:46,397 --> 00:53:48,225 We can both relate to that, can't we? 1124 00:53:49,487 --> 00:53:50,618 - Yes. 1125 00:53:50,792 --> 00:53:51,576 Yes, we can. 1126 00:53:54,274 --> 00:53:57,364 Girls, I'm gonna be taking a short trip at the end 1127 00:53:57,538 --> 00:54:00,498 of this week, so you'll be staying at your mother's. 1128 00:54:00,672 --> 00:54:02,674 I will be gone early Thursday till late Friday, 1129 00:54:02,848 --> 00:54:04,415 so you're gonna be staying at your mother's Wednesday 1130 00:54:04,589 --> 00:54:06,417 and Thursday and then we'll get back on schedule, okay? 1131 00:54:06,591 --> 00:54:08,070 - Where are you going? 1132 00:54:08,245 --> 00:54:09,724 - New York. 1133 00:54:09,898 --> 00:54:11,639 - Oh, you gonna visit Grandma and Grandpa? 1134 00:54:11,813 --> 00:54:14,512 - Uh, no, actually, I'm gonna be seeing an old friend. 1135 00:54:14,686 --> 00:54:16,427 - Like an old buddy from high school? 1136 00:54:16,601 --> 00:54:17,950 - You could say that, sorta. 1137 00:54:20,344 --> 00:54:21,736 - Well, can I go with you? 1138 00:54:23,303 --> 00:54:25,174 - Well, you'd have to miss the first week of school. 1139 00:54:25,349 --> 00:54:26,132 - Yeah? 1140 00:54:26,306 --> 00:54:28,177 - How about no? 1141 00:54:28,352 --> 00:54:29,875 [chuckles] Nice try, though. 1142 00:54:30,049 --> 00:54:31,833 - Thanks a lot. - You're welcome. [chuckles] 1143 00:54:32,007 --> 00:54:35,533 [pensive orchestral music] 1144 00:54:54,029 --> 00:54:57,511 [keyboard clacks] 1145 00:54:57,685 --> 00:54:59,426 [door knocking] 1146 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,123 - I got your email about you taking a couple days off. 1147 00:55:01,298 --> 00:55:02,647 Is everything okay? 1148 00:55:02,821 --> 00:55:03,778 - Yeah, everything's fine. 1149 00:55:03,952 --> 00:55:05,519 - Are you sure? 1150 00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:07,913 - I'm gonna be taking a little trip. 1151 00:55:08,087 --> 00:55:09,654 I thought I should let you know ahead of time, 1152 00:55:09,828 --> 00:55:12,221 so I don't have to play 20 Questions when I come back. 1153 00:55:12,396 --> 00:55:13,353 - I don't understand. 1154 00:55:13,527 --> 00:55:14,789 - I'm goin' up north. 1155 00:55:14,963 --> 00:55:15,747 - Up north? 1156 00:55:16,791 --> 00:55:17,836 - Going to New York. 1157 00:55:20,491 --> 00:55:21,927 - The high school girl. 1158 00:55:22,101 --> 00:55:24,321 - What can I say? [chuckles] 1159 00:55:24,495 --> 00:55:25,931 - Does she know you're coming? 1160 00:55:26,105 --> 00:55:26,975 - No, she doesn't. 1161 00:55:28,325 --> 00:55:29,848 - So when are you leaving? 1162 00:55:30,022 --> 00:55:31,893 - I'm leaving Thursday, coming back late Friday. 1163 00:55:32,067 --> 00:55:33,808 By the way, keep the place running while I'm gone. 1164 00:55:33,982 --> 00:55:36,245 I don't wanna have to patch things up when I come back. 1165 00:55:36,420 --> 00:55:37,943 - Dave, God doesn't want you to go out 1166 00:55:38,117 --> 00:55:39,205 and mess up somebody's marriage. 1167 00:55:39,379 --> 00:55:40,946 I can't support you on this. 1168 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,296 - I'm just going to say hello to an old friend. 1169 00:55:43,470 --> 00:55:46,299 - Well, like I said before, if the roles were reversed, 1170 00:55:46,473 --> 00:55:47,474 you wouldn't want this happening to you. 1171 00:55:47,648 --> 00:55:48,649 - It's already happened to me, 1172 00:55:48,823 --> 00:55:50,172 so don't lay a guilt trip on me. 1173 00:55:50,347 --> 00:55:51,565 - I am not trying to lay a guilt trip on you. 1174 00:55:51,739 --> 00:55:53,088 - Well, then why do I feel guilty 1175 00:55:53,262 --> 00:55:54,089 every time I talk to you about Mary? 1176 00:55:54,263 --> 00:55:55,743 - Dave, come on, man. 1177 00:55:55,917 --> 00:55:56,744 If were doing this, you'd be all over me! 1178 00:55:56,918 --> 00:55:58,355 - I don't think so. 1179 00:55:58,529 --> 00:55:59,834 - Just because your wife did you wrong, 1180 00:56:00,008 --> 00:56:01,009 doesn't mean you should do the same. 1181 00:56:01,183 --> 00:56:02,750 - I'm not doing anything wrong. 1182 00:56:02,924 --> 00:56:04,317 I'm not going out there to commit adultery, 1183 00:56:04,491 --> 00:56:06,319 and I'm not trying to ruin anybody's marriage. 1184 00:56:06,493 --> 00:56:08,626 I'm just going up to talk to someone who, at one time, 1185 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,455 was the most special person on the face of the planet to me! 1186 00:56:11,629 --> 00:56:13,413 I don't see why I have to ignore her and pretend she doesn't 1187 00:56:13,587 --> 00:56:15,284 exist for the rest of my life, you follow what I'm saying? 1188 00:56:15,459 --> 00:56:17,243 - I follow, but you've lost your focus on Christ. 1189 00:56:17,417 --> 00:56:19,593 - I just wanna see her one time. 1190 00:56:19,767 --> 00:56:21,247 - And what're you hoping for? 1191 00:56:21,421 --> 00:56:22,727 That she's the same girl you left 30 years ago, 1192 00:56:22,901 --> 00:56:24,598 and that you'll fall in love again? 1193 00:56:24,772 --> 00:56:26,774 And if that happens, Dave, where does that leave her family? 1194 00:56:26,948 --> 00:56:28,863 Now, come on, man, get back in line with Jesus. 1195 00:56:29,037 --> 00:56:30,038 Get back on course. 1196 00:56:30,212 --> 00:56:30,735 - I'll see you when I get back. 1197 00:56:30,909 --> 00:56:32,345 - Dave- 1198 00:56:32,519 --> 00:56:33,477 - I said, I'll see you when I get back! 1199 00:56:40,571 --> 00:56:42,529 - You always refer to that girl as Mary, 1200 00:56:43,748 --> 00:56:46,011 but she is not your Mary anymore. 1201 00:56:46,185 --> 00:56:48,230 She's another man's wife. 1202 00:56:48,405 --> 00:56:49,493 You need accept that. 1203 00:56:51,146 --> 00:56:52,583 - She'll always be Mary to me. 1204 00:57:06,858 --> 00:57:08,207 Do you ever get mad at God? 1205 00:57:09,513 --> 00:57:10,775 - Well, I think we all get mad at God 1206 00:57:10,949 --> 00:57:13,430 at one point or another in life. 1207 00:57:13,604 --> 00:57:15,649 - Sometimes it doesn't even seem like he's up there. 1208 00:57:15,823 --> 00:57:17,129 - Yeah, it seems that way. 1209 00:57:19,566 --> 00:57:21,438 - And what do you do when you get mad at God? 1210 00:57:23,091 --> 00:57:26,443 - Well, why do people get mad at God? 1211 00:57:27,705 --> 00:57:29,489 - I can think of a few reasons. 1212 00:57:30,621 --> 00:57:32,710 - There's only two reasons I can think of. 1213 00:57:32,884 --> 00:57:35,582 We get mad at God because we don't get our way. 1214 00:57:37,584 --> 00:57:40,805 - When my wife left, the girls and I prayed every day, 1215 00:57:40,979 --> 00:57:44,461 every day, that God would put our family back together. 1216 00:57:44,635 --> 00:57:47,594 We're praying for his will here, a good thing, right? 1217 00:57:47,768 --> 00:57:51,598 He did nothing, absolutely nothing, he just let it happen. 1218 00:57:51,772 --> 00:57:53,861 - Remember what the Bible says, "thy will be done on earth, 1219 00:57:54,035 --> 00:57:55,733 as it is in heaven?" 1220 00:57:55,907 --> 00:57:57,561 Well, sometimes, God's will isn't done here on earth, Dave. 1221 00:57:57,735 --> 00:57:59,824 Even if it is a righteous thing. 1222 00:57:59,998 --> 00:58:01,739 - What's the second reason? 1223 00:58:01,913 --> 00:58:03,741 - Well, we get mad at God because we know he can do 1224 00:58:03,915 --> 00:58:06,526 something about a certain situation and he doesn't. 1225 00:58:07,788 --> 00:58:10,008 That's probably the real issue here, isn't it? 1226 00:58:11,226 --> 00:58:13,968 - That's it exactly, he just lets it happen. 1227 00:58:14,142 --> 00:58:16,536 What kind of a God are we serving here? 1228 00:58:16,710 --> 00:58:18,451 [group leader sighs] [melancholy music] 1229 00:58:18,625 --> 00:58:20,409 - Sometimes it is difficult to understand why God allows 1230 00:58:20,584 --> 00:58:22,629 or doesn't allow certain things to happen. 1231 00:58:23,630 --> 00:58:25,893 I wrestled with that myself years ago. 1232 00:58:26,067 --> 00:58:27,895 But then I discovered a verse in Proverbs 1233 00:58:28,069 --> 00:58:30,028 that really helped me through it. 1234 00:58:30,202 --> 00:58:32,247 Proverbs 21:30. 1235 00:58:33,684 --> 00:58:35,686 "There is no counsel against the Lord." 1236 00:58:37,644 --> 00:58:39,994 If the Lord Jesus Christ were to appear to you right now, 1237 00:58:40,168 --> 00:58:41,822 and he would answer any question you had 1238 00:58:41,996 --> 00:58:45,434 about your situation, the whys, the why-nots, 1239 00:58:45,609 --> 00:58:49,482 when he was finished, you'd say, "Thank you. 1240 00:58:49,656 --> 00:58:50,657 Thank you, Lord. 1241 00:58:50,831 --> 00:58:52,137 You're right." 1242 00:58:52,311 --> 00:58:54,052 There wouldn't be any correction, 1243 00:58:54,226 --> 00:58:55,793 or anything you could say to him when he was finished, 1244 00:58:55,967 --> 00:58:58,665 because there is no counsel against the Lord. 1245 00:58:58,839 --> 00:59:01,059 God is perfect, he doesn't make mistakes. 1246 00:59:02,669 --> 00:59:04,628 - And this is supposed to make me feel better? 1247 00:59:06,107 --> 00:59:08,414 - It will, if you'll give it time to settle in. 1248 00:59:08,588 --> 00:59:10,503 You know, I believe God always has 1249 00:59:10,677 --> 00:59:12,374 our best interest at heart. 1250 00:59:12,549 --> 00:59:16,814 He's trying to form Jesus Christ in us, and that ain't easy. 1251 00:59:18,772 --> 00:59:21,732 And it's during these trials that he does his greatest work. 1252 00:59:23,298 --> 00:59:27,564 Remember, Dave, nothing grows at 12,000 feet, 1253 00:59:27,738 --> 00:59:29,609 but things sure do grow in the valley. 1254 00:59:30,828 --> 00:59:32,481 And it's during these valley times of life 1255 00:59:32,656 --> 00:59:34,658 that he's doing something big in us. 1256 00:59:38,749 --> 00:59:41,490 - I just can't see anything good coming out of this. 1257 00:59:41,665 --> 00:59:42,622 I just can't. 1258 00:59:43,797 --> 00:59:44,624 - I understand. 1259 00:59:46,017 --> 00:59:48,193 But you know, I've also noticed that God doesn't always 1260 00:59:48,367 --> 00:59:51,544 let us in on what he's doing, at the time. 1261 00:59:51,718 --> 00:59:53,807 He wants us to walk by faith. 1262 00:59:53,981 --> 00:59:56,505 The Bible says, "Faith is what pleases God." 1263 00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,595 You know, when this is all over, 1264 00:59:58,769 --> 01:00:00,379 and you've had time to look back, 1265 01:00:02,076 --> 01:00:04,949 you're gonna see a great work that he's done in your life. 1266 01:00:09,301 --> 01:00:10,302 - 30 years ago, 1267 01:00:11,782 --> 01:00:14,611 I dated a girl who was absolutely perfect for me. 1268 01:00:17,309 --> 01:00:19,224 And I wonder why we didn't get married. 1269 01:00:21,705 --> 01:00:24,664 - You know, Dave, sometimes you just gotta trust 1270 01:00:24,838 --> 01:00:27,319 what God allows and doesn't allow. 1271 01:00:31,410 --> 01:00:34,239 [keyboard clacks] 1272 01:00:36,328 --> 01:00:37,503 [door knocking] 1273 01:00:37,677 --> 01:00:38,286 - Hey, Paul. 1274 01:00:40,201 --> 01:00:43,074 Listen, I'm sorry about this morning. 1275 01:00:43,248 --> 01:00:44,945 I know you're just trying to help. 1276 01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:47,687 And I hear what you're saying, you're not wrong. 1277 01:00:47,861 --> 01:00:49,994 I'm just still bothered about the whole thing. 1278 01:00:51,648 --> 01:00:53,040 - Sure you are. 1279 01:00:53,214 --> 01:00:55,086 - I'm very sorry I got upset with you. 1280 01:00:56,130 --> 01:00:58,089 - Hey, completely forgiven. 1281 01:00:59,743 --> 01:01:03,485 And, um, I don't mean to be pushy with you. 1282 01:01:03,660 --> 01:01:04,704 - Nah, you're not. 1283 01:01:05,792 --> 01:01:06,750 I love you, man. 1284 01:01:06,924 --> 01:01:08,099 - Love you, too, brother. 1285 01:01:09,883 --> 01:01:10,667 Hey, Dave. 1286 01:01:12,799 --> 01:01:15,628 If, um, if she's not a Christian, 1287 01:01:15,802 --> 01:01:17,108 and doesn't know about Jesus, 1288 01:01:18,718 --> 01:01:20,198 maybe you can tell her. 1289 01:01:22,026 --> 01:01:25,464 [light orchestral music] 1290 01:01:45,702 --> 01:01:48,139 [door knocking] 1291 01:01:56,103 --> 01:01:57,801 [door creaks] 1292 01:01:57,975 --> 01:01:59,759 - I know I should've called, 1293 01:01:59,933 --> 01:02:01,630 but I just wanted to stop by for a minute, is that okay? 1294 01:02:01,805 --> 01:02:02,719 - [Dave] [chuckles] Sure, come on in. 1295 01:02:02,893 --> 01:02:03,720 - Thanks. 1296 01:02:03,894 --> 01:02:06,244 [door creaks] 1297 01:02:08,159 --> 01:02:09,813 - How are you? - I'm good, how are you? 1298 01:02:09,987 --> 01:02:11,292 - I'm okay. 1299 01:02:11,466 --> 01:02:12,816 - Just have a seat right in there. 1300 01:02:13,947 --> 01:02:15,993 - You have a nice home. - Thank you. 1301 01:02:16,167 --> 01:02:17,864 - Do you realize that what I just did to you 1302 01:02:18,038 --> 01:02:20,693 is what you'll be doing when you knock on Mary's door? 1303 01:02:20,867 --> 01:02:23,043 - Now that you mention it, I guess you're right. 1304 01:02:24,479 --> 01:02:27,178 - Are you surprised to see me? - I wasn't expecting you. 1305 01:02:27,352 --> 01:02:29,223 - She'll be surprised to see you, too. 1306 01:02:30,790 --> 01:02:32,792 Did I catch you off guard? - A little. 1307 01:02:32,966 --> 01:02:34,925 - Well, you'll be catching her off guard a lot, so, 1308 01:02:35,099 --> 01:02:37,014 don't be worried if she keeps her distance. 1309 01:02:37,188 --> 01:02:38,537 - I don't know what I'm expecting. 1310 01:02:38,711 --> 01:02:40,104 All I know is I get there at 11:55, 1311 01:02:40,278 --> 01:02:42,802 and she lives 30 minutes from the airport. 1312 01:02:42,976 --> 01:02:44,761 - Have you thought about how you want her to feel, 1313 01:02:44,935 --> 01:02:46,501 when she sees you? 1314 01:02:46,675 --> 01:02:48,416 - What do you mean? - Well, just what I said. 1315 01:02:48,590 --> 01:02:51,158 Have you really thought about how you want her to feel? 1316 01:02:51,332 --> 01:02:52,681 - We're diving into my inner man 1317 01:02:52,856 --> 01:02:54,727 a little bit here, aren't we? 1318 01:02:54,901 --> 01:02:57,208 - [chuckles] I'm sorry, I'm getting too personal. 1319 01:02:59,123 --> 01:03:00,777 - No, no, you're fine. 1320 01:03:02,517 --> 01:03:04,171 Okay, you wanna hear a couple of scenarios? 1321 01:03:04,345 --> 01:03:05,564 - If you wanna share them. 1322 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,132 - Scenario number one. 1323 01:03:09,524 --> 01:03:12,745 I get there and I immediately feel guilty, because 1324 01:03:12,919 --> 01:03:15,661 she's married and Paul's right, I never should've come. 1325 01:03:15,835 --> 01:03:17,619 Kinda like you respecting Brian's marriage 1326 01:03:17,794 --> 01:03:18,795 by staying away from him? 1327 01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:21,710 Mary feels awkward, too, 1328 01:03:21,885 --> 01:03:23,800 because she knows it's not right that I'm there, 1329 01:03:23,974 --> 01:03:26,237 and the whole meeting is an absolute disaster. 1330 01:03:29,022 --> 01:03:30,328 - And scenario number two? 1331 01:03:32,852 --> 01:03:33,984 - Scenario number two. 1332 01:03:35,594 --> 01:03:39,380 I find out that her husband divorced her a few years ago, 1333 01:03:39,554 --> 01:03:40,512 and she's crushed. 1334 01:03:42,035 --> 01:03:45,909 When she sees me, she sees an old, but very special friend. 1335 01:03:47,258 --> 01:03:49,782 She forgives me for my immaturity of long ago, 1336 01:03:49,956 --> 01:03:53,351 and we pick up our relationship like it never ended. 1337 01:03:55,614 --> 01:03:57,268 How does that sound to you? 1338 01:03:57,442 --> 01:04:00,097 - It sounds like a fantasy. 1339 01:04:01,359 --> 01:04:03,752 [Dave chuckles] 1340 01:04:03,927 --> 01:04:05,842 - I am acting like a high schooler here. 1341 01:04:13,980 --> 01:04:15,852 Do you think I'm making a mistake doing this? 1342 01:04:16,026 --> 01:04:17,679 - I can't answer that. 1343 01:04:17,854 --> 01:04:18,724 - Why not? 1344 01:04:18,898 --> 01:04:19,856 - I just can't. 1345 01:04:23,294 --> 01:04:25,774 - You think I'm wrong for doing this, don't you? 1346 01:04:25,949 --> 01:04:27,080 - Next question? 1347 01:04:27,254 --> 01:04:28,386 - Come on, Carla. 1348 01:04:29,604 --> 01:04:33,434 - Look, I've gotta go, but I got this for you. 1349 01:04:33,608 --> 01:04:35,436 - What is it? - It's for you. 1350 01:04:35,610 --> 01:04:37,351 - Wait a minute, you just got here! 1351 01:04:37,525 --> 01:04:38,918 - Have a good trip, okay? - Hey! 1352 01:04:39,092 --> 01:04:40,441 Are you upset? 1353 01:04:40,615 --> 01:04:41,790 - No, not at all. 1354 01:04:41,965 --> 01:04:43,183 - Well, you don't have to leave. 1355 01:04:43,357 --> 01:04:45,055 - Have a great trip, bye. 1356 01:04:47,622 --> 01:04:49,320 [melancholy orchestral music] 1357 01:04:49,494 --> 01:04:51,191 - If you and I were married and Brian wanted to talk to you, 1358 01:04:51,365 --> 01:04:52,410 I'd let him. 1359 01:04:52,584 --> 01:04:54,064 I'd understand. 1360 01:04:56,283 --> 01:04:58,155 - I'll keep that in mind. 1361 01:04:58,329 --> 01:05:00,113 [door creaks] 1362 01:05:00,287 --> 01:05:04,074 [melancholy orchestral music] 1363 01:05:45,028 --> 01:05:47,552 [birds chirping] 1364 01:05:49,249 --> 01:05:52,992 [pensive orchestral music] 1365 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,601 [phone rings] 1366 01:06:38,429 --> 01:06:40,561 Hey, I was thinking about you, how's it going? 1367 01:06:40,735 --> 01:06:44,913 - Well, I'm in a hotel room about five miles from her place. 1368 01:06:45,088 --> 01:06:46,654 I gotta tell you, I'm pretty nervous. 1369 01:06:46,828 --> 01:06:49,135 - [chuckles] Well, so now what're you gonna do? 1370 01:06:49,309 --> 01:06:51,007 - I'm gonna drop by her house early this afternoon, 1371 01:06:51,181 --> 01:06:52,965 and try to determine her routine. 1372 01:06:53,139 --> 01:06:54,836 I don't know where she works or when she does. 1373 01:06:55,011 --> 01:06:56,186 - Or what he does. 1374 01:06:57,013 --> 01:06:58,057 - Well, yeah. 1375 01:06:58,753 --> 01:06:59,841 You had to say it, didn't ya? 1376 01:07:00,016 --> 01:07:00,581 - Sorry. 1377 01:07:02,105 --> 01:07:03,889 - Well, like I was saying, I don't know what she does. 1378 01:07:04,063 --> 01:07:05,934 If she stays at home or if she works, I need to know that. 1379 01:07:06,109 --> 01:07:08,067 - Well, what're you gonna do, spy on her house? 1380 01:07:08,241 --> 01:07:09,416 - No. 1381 01:07:09,590 --> 01:07:11,679 - Well, it seems like you are. 1382 01:07:11,853 --> 01:07:13,986 - Don't make it sound like I'm stalking her or something. 1383 01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,945 - Well, it will be, sort of. 1384 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,426 - I'm not going to be stalking her. 1385 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,037 - Well, some people might take it that way. 1386 01:07:21,211 --> 01:07:23,430 Why don't you just drive by and if you see a car, 1387 01:07:23,604 --> 01:07:24,910 stop in and say hello? 1388 01:07:25,084 --> 01:07:26,999 - [chuckles] Are you crazy? 1389 01:07:27,173 --> 01:07:28,870 What if her husband's there? I can't do that. 1390 01:07:29,045 --> 01:07:30,568 - Why not? 1391 01:07:30,742 --> 01:07:31,917 - [Dave] Carla, be serious, I can't do that. 1392 01:07:32,091 --> 01:07:33,005 - Why? 1393 01:07:33,179 --> 01:07:34,093 - I can't! 1394 01:07:35,094 --> 01:07:36,139 I wanna be alone with her. 1395 01:07:37,183 --> 01:07:38,489 You know what I mean. 1396 01:07:38,663 --> 01:07:39,881 - Well, maybe Paul was right, then. 1397 01:07:40,056 --> 01:07:41,057 - What? 1398 01:07:42,319 --> 01:07:43,929 Whose side are you on here, anyway? 1399 01:07:44,103 --> 01:07:46,018 - I'm on your side, silly! 1400 01:07:46,192 --> 01:07:48,020 - Well, it doesn't sound like it to me. 1401 01:07:48,194 --> 01:07:50,240 - I just didn't think you were gonna go scope out her house. 1402 01:07:50,414 --> 01:07:52,677 I mean, is that why you're there for two days? 1403 01:07:52,851 --> 01:07:55,071 One day to check it out and the next day you're gonna- 1404 01:07:55,245 --> 01:07:57,290 - Look, I can't just pop in, all right? 1405 01:07:58,552 --> 01:07:59,945 And I'm not gonna be stalking her. 1406 01:08:00,119 --> 01:08:02,295 - All right, whatever you say. 1407 01:08:02,469 --> 01:08:04,297 Just do what you think is best. 1408 01:08:04,471 --> 01:08:06,082 - "Just drive by and say hello." 1409 01:08:06,256 --> 01:08:07,474 What if her husband answers the door? 1410 01:08:07,648 --> 01:08:09,085 What am I gonna do then? 1411 01:08:09,259 --> 01:08:10,912 - Dave, God knows what's going on here. 1412 01:08:11,087 --> 01:08:12,175 You're not fooling him. 1413 01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:14,525 Why don't you just knock on the door, 1414 01:08:14,699 --> 01:08:16,221 and leave the results to him? 1415 01:08:21,096 --> 01:08:22,272 Are you still there? 1416 01:08:23,185 --> 01:08:24,143 - Yeah. 1417 01:08:24,317 --> 01:08:25,926 - Are you okay? 1418 01:08:26,102 --> 01:08:26,710 - Yeah. 1419 01:08:27,886 --> 01:08:29,452 Look, I'm sorry, I'll talk to you later. 1420 01:08:29,627 --> 01:08:30,496 - Dave. 1421 01:08:30,671 --> 01:08:31,759 - I gotta go, okay? 1422 01:08:33,630 --> 01:08:34,458 - Okay. 1423 01:08:35,719 --> 01:08:37,156 - Thanks. 1424 01:08:37,330 --> 01:08:39,157 I'll see ya later. 1425 01:08:39,332 --> 01:08:44,294 - See ya. 1426 01:08:49,690 --> 01:08:53,303 [peaceful orchestral music] 1427 01:11:25,716 --> 01:11:29,546 [melancholy orchestral music] 1428 01:13:45,116 --> 01:13:47,945 [door knocking] 1429 01:13:48,119 --> 01:13:50,861 [birds chirping] 1430 01:13:55,518 --> 01:13:58,041 [door creaks] 1431 01:13:59,130 --> 01:14:00,348 - Dave. 1432 01:14:00,523 --> 01:14:02,394 - I know what you're gonna say. 1433 01:14:02,568 --> 01:14:04,701 I just get a lot better looking with age. 1434 01:14:04,875 --> 01:14:07,355 I'm trying to be humble about it, but what can I say? 1435 01:14:07,530 --> 01:14:09,314 - What are you doing here? 1436 01:14:09,487 --> 01:14:11,490 - Well, I was driving by and I thought I'd take a chance 1437 01:14:11,664 --> 01:14:13,361 and stop by for a moment. 1438 01:14:13,536 --> 01:14:14,841 I'm sorry, I should've called ahead. 1439 01:14:15,014 --> 01:14:16,407 I hope I'm not interrupting anything. 1440 01:14:16,582 --> 01:14:17,627 - No, it's okay. 1441 01:14:18,932 --> 01:14:21,239 - I'd like to talk to you for a minute, if that's all right? 1442 01:14:22,458 --> 01:14:23,371 - Sure. 1443 01:14:23,546 --> 01:14:24,547 Come in. 1444 01:14:26,984 --> 01:14:29,377 [door creaks] 1445 01:14:29,552 --> 01:14:31,031 Are you up visiting your parents? 1446 01:14:31,205 --> 01:14:32,772 - Um, they're fine. 1447 01:14:34,513 --> 01:14:36,733 My mother told me about your parents, I'm awfully sorry. 1448 01:14:36,907 --> 01:14:37,995 That must've been hard. 1449 01:14:38,169 --> 01:14:39,475 - Yes, it was. 1450 01:14:39,648 --> 01:14:40,258 - I'm sorry. 1451 01:14:41,912 --> 01:14:43,434 Look, I'm probably the last person you expected 1452 01:14:43,609 --> 01:14:45,393 to be standing at your front door today, right? 1453 01:14:45,568 --> 01:14:48,701 - Well, I can't say that I was expecting you. 1454 01:14:48,875 --> 01:14:50,877 - You have a nice house. 1455 01:14:51,050 --> 01:14:52,575 - Thanks, it's home. 1456 01:14:54,054 --> 01:14:55,447 Well, come on in, sit down. 1457 01:14:55,621 --> 01:14:56,621 - Thank you. 1458 01:15:05,588 --> 01:15:07,546 You have two daughters, right? 1459 01:15:07,719 --> 01:15:09,330 How are they? 1460 01:15:09,505 --> 01:15:12,638 - Fine, my oldest daughter is out of college now, 1461 01:15:12,812 --> 01:15:14,553 and my youngest just started. 1462 01:15:14,727 --> 01:15:15,684 - College? 1463 01:15:15,859 --> 01:15:16,816 Wow. 1464 01:15:16,990 --> 01:15:17,861 You're really gettin' old. 1465 01:15:18,035 --> 01:15:18,992 [Mary chuckles] 1466 01:15:19,166 --> 01:15:20,951 - Not any older than you. 1467 01:15:21,125 --> 01:15:23,910 So how about you, are you married, do you have children? 1468 01:15:24,084 --> 01:15:26,434 - Yes, I have two daughters as well, 1469 01:15:26,609 --> 01:15:28,698 but no, I'm not married anymore. 1470 01:15:28,871 --> 01:15:30,656 My wife left me about 20 months ago. 1471 01:15:30,830 --> 01:15:32,571 - I'm sorry to hear that. 1472 01:15:32,745 --> 01:15:34,878 - Yeah, it's been difficult, long story. 1473 01:15:39,621 --> 01:15:41,580 - How old are your daughters? 1474 01:15:41,754 --> 01:15:44,496 - 17 and 15, Ashley and Michelle. 1475 01:15:44,670 --> 01:15:47,107 They split time between their mother and I. 1476 01:15:47,281 --> 01:15:49,327 - Any chance you might get back together? 1477 01:15:51,329 --> 01:15:52,896 - No, I don't think so. 1478 01:15:54,637 --> 01:15:56,900 Too much has happened and it's been too painful. 1479 01:16:00,294 --> 01:16:02,427 Hey, [chuckles] look, it's great to see ya. 1480 01:16:02,601 --> 01:16:03,994 - It's nice to see you, too. 1481 01:16:05,648 --> 01:16:07,563 - What do you do, do you work? 1482 01:16:07,737 --> 01:16:10,522 - I'm a secretary over at the elementary school. 1483 01:16:10,696 --> 01:16:11,478 - Yeah, you like it? 1484 01:16:11,654 --> 01:16:12,959 - I love it. 1485 01:16:13,133 --> 01:16:14,700 I like seeing the kids every day. 1486 01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:18,661 How about you? 1487 01:16:18,835 --> 01:16:21,446 - I work for a media firm in North Carolina, marketing. 1488 01:16:21,620 --> 01:16:23,840 Good job and I really like the people I work with. 1489 01:16:24,014 --> 01:16:24,841 - That's nice. 1490 01:16:29,672 --> 01:16:31,021 - Do you still do art? 1491 01:16:31,195 --> 01:16:32,675 - [chuckles] Not really. 1492 01:16:32,849 --> 01:16:35,939 Just a little, I doodle now and then. 1493 01:16:36,112 --> 01:16:38,681 - Well, you sure made some great doodles for me. 1494 01:16:39,986 --> 01:16:42,162 You know, I really loved those things you made me. 1495 01:16:42,335 --> 01:16:44,208 - Do you still have any of them? 1496 01:16:45,688 --> 01:16:47,210 - No, I wish I did. 1497 01:16:48,342 --> 01:16:49,952 I got rid of 'em when I got married. 1498 01:16:51,302 --> 01:16:52,085 - I understand. 1499 01:16:53,609 --> 01:16:55,306 - Yeah. 1500 01:16:55,480 --> 01:16:56,960 You don't have any of the things I gave you, do ya? 1501 01:16:58,701 --> 01:17:00,224 - No, I don't think so. 1502 01:17:00,398 --> 01:17:02,661 It was at my mom's and when she passed away, 1503 01:17:02,835 --> 01:17:04,794 I think it just all got thrown out. 1504 01:17:04,968 --> 01:17:06,709 - [chuckles] Threw me out in the trash, eh? 1505 01:17:06,883 --> 01:17:09,625 - Wait a minute, I think I'm the one that got dumped on. 1506 01:17:11,888 --> 01:17:13,411 [melancholy orchestral music] 1507 01:17:13,585 --> 01:17:15,761 - And I'm really sorry that I ever did that to you. 1508 01:17:17,807 --> 01:17:19,591 I'd like to talk with you about it. 1509 01:17:19,764 --> 01:17:20,723 That's why I came. 1510 01:17:23,073 --> 01:17:24,552 Mary, I want you to know, 1511 01:17:24,727 --> 01:17:27,643 from the most sincere place in my heart, 1512 01:17:27,817 --> 01:17:30,341 that I am very sorry I ever broke up with you. 1513 01:17:32,125 --> 01:17:34,040 And I'm very sorry that I ever hurt you. 1514 01:17:35,389 --> 01:17:36,564 I never, ever wanted to hurt you, 1515 01:17:36,739 --> 01:17:38,436 and I'm really sorry that I did. 1516 01:17:40,873 --> 01:17:42,266 We were best friends. 1517 01:17:43,789 --> 01:17:45,269 I don't know what got into me. 1518 01:17:49,228 --> 01:17:50,013 - We were young. 1519 01:17:53,843 --> 01:17:55,975 And you said you wanted to date other girls. 1520 01:17:57,063 --> 01:17:57,934 - Yeah, I did. 1521 01:17:58,108 --> 01:17:59,109 And I don't know why. 1522 01:18:00,763 --> 01:18:02,764 When I already had the perfect one for me. 1523 01:18:04,853 --> 01:18:08,205 In fact, you are still the finest girl I have ever known. 1524 01:18:10,076 --> 01:18:12,209 I've never loved anybody like I loved you. 1525 01:18:15,734 --> 01:18:16,822 - I don't know what to say. 1526 01:18:19,172 --> 01:18:20,739 - Just know that I'm sorry, 1527 01:18:22,001 --> 01:18:24,743 and you never did anything wrong, it wasn't your fault. 1528 01:18:26,179 --> 01:18:27,224 Just know that. 1529 01:18:30,270 --> 01:18:31,141 - Okay. 1530 01:18:32,795 --> 01:18:33,883 - Have you had a good life? 1531 01:18:37,887 --> 01:18:38,496 - Overall, yes. 1532 01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,067 - I think we could've had a great life together. 1533 01:18:48,462 --> 01:18:50,202 - Yeah, well you blew it, buddy. 1534 01:18:50,377 --> 01:18:51,727 [Dave chuckles] 1535 01:18:51,901 --> 01:18:53,728 - Yeah, I did. 1536 01:18:53,903 --> 01:18:54,512 I did. 1537 01:18:56,469 --> 01:18:58,559 Now I'm 47 years old. 1538 01:18:58,734 --> 01:19:00,257 Divorced, two children. 1539 01:19:01,867 --> 01:19:02,520 And I'm alone. 1540 01:19:05,349 --> 01:19:06,785 - You'll meet someone else. 1541 01:19:07,830 --> 01:19:08,439 - Not like you. 1542 01:19:10,136 --> 01:19:11,181 You know, I've thought about you 1543 01:19:11,355 --> 01:19:12,835 so many times over the years. 1544 01:19:14,837 --> 01:19:16,882 Every January 5th, I think about you. 1545 01:19:18,362 --> 01:19:20,886 Every time I'd hear one of our songs you'd pop into my mind. 1546 01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:24,803 - Well, I'm flattered, I didn't know. 1547 01:19:26,413 --> 01:19:27,937 - Can I ask you a question? 1548 01:19:29,373 --> 01:19:30,896 Do you ever think about me? 1549 01:19:35,379 --> 01:19:36,206 - Um, 1550 01:19:39,296 --> 01:19:40,818 maybe not like you, but 1551 01:19:42,907 --> 01:19:45,563 if I hear a song, it jogs a memory. 1552 01:19:46,477 --> 01:19:49,654 [Dave chuckles] 1553 01:19:49,827 --> 01:19:52,700 - It's really weird seeing you. 1554 01:19:52,875 --> 01:19:53,484 You look great. 1555 01:19:55,138 --> 01:19:57,096 - You always did have all the lines, didn't you? 1556 01:19:57,270 --> 01:19:58,228 - It's not a line. 1557 01:20:01,884 --> 01:20:04,669 You know, those two years, four months and 28 days 1558 01:20:04,843 --> 01:20:07,150 that we dated were the greatest days of my life. 1559 01:20:08,847 --> 01:20:10,196 - I'm surprised you know that. 1560 01:20:10,370 --> 01:20:12,155 - What, how long we dated? 1561 01:20:12,329 --> 01:20:13,852 [chuckles] Hey, I remember. 1562 01:20:15,071 --> 01:20:17,464 We had a great year, that first year together, didn't we? 1563 01:20:19,989 --> 01:20:21,032 - Yeah. 1564 01:20:21,207 --> 01:20:21,991 Yeah, we did. 1565 01:20:23,601 --> 01:20:25,385 - Do you remember that letter you wrote me, 1566 01:20:25,559 --> 01:20:28,258 where you pretended we were married and we had two kids? 1567 01:20:29,868 --> 01:20:30,869 - A letter? 1568 01:20:32,566 --> 01:20:34,394 I don't. 1569 01:20:34,568 --> 01:20:36,179 - It was during the summer and I had come to your school, 1570 01:20:36,353 --> 01:20:38,398 I was working out on your track and came over 1571 01:20:38,572 --> 01:20:41,749 and visited with me and you gave me that letter. 1572 01:20:41,924 --> 01:20:43,925 - I don't remember, I'm sorry. 1573 01:20:44,100 --> 01:20:46,232 - See, you are gettin' older, your memory's shot. 1574 01:20:46,406 --> 01:20:48,844 [both chuckle] 1575 01:20:50,541 --> 01:20:52,760 It was a great letter, though. 1576 01:20:52,934 --> 01:20:53,544 Nice thought. 1577 01:21:00,420 --> 01:21:02,248 - Do you still run? 1578 01:21:02,422 --> 01:21:05,121 - No, no, I don't run anymore. 1579 01:21:05,295 --> 01:21:08,166 I shoot hoops now and then to keep myself in shape. 1580 01:21:08,341 --> 01:21:11,431 - [chuckles] You always wanted to be good at basketball. 1581 01:21:11,605 --> 01:21:13,956 - [chuckles] Yeah, I'm still tryin', I guess. 1582 01:21:16,567 --> 01:21:19,962 It is so weird to see you again, after all these years. 1583 01:21:20,136 --> 01:21:22,312 I've thought about you so many times. 1584 01:21:22,486 --> 01:21:24,314 I always wondered how you were doing. 1585 01:21:27,447 --> 01:21:29,014 - I'm doin' okay. 1586 01:21:35,193 --> 01:21:37,414 - Well, I could sit here and walk down memory lane 1587 01:21:37,588 --> 01:21:40,939 with you all day, but that probably wouldn't be wise. 1588 01:21:42,114 --> 01:21:42,898 I should go. 1589 01:21:44,987 --> 01:21:47,293 I just wanted you to know that I was sorry. 1590 01:21:47,467 --> 01:21:49,687 I hope I didn't make you feel uncomfortable. 1591 01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:52,777 - No. 1592 01:21:52,951 --> 01:21:53,996 No, you were fine. 1593 01:21:54,952 --> 01:21:56,259 Just surprised me a little. 1594 01:22:08,575 --> 01:22:11,404 [peaceful orchestral music] 1595 01:22:11,577 --> 01:22:14,059 - You know, I needed to tell you something else. 1596 01:22:14,233 --> 01:22:15,843 When you and I dated, 1597 01:22:16,018 --> 01:22:18,020 we never talked about spiritual things. 1598 01:22:19,108 --> 01:22:21,240 We both believed in God, but, 1599 01:22:21,414 --> 01:22:24,156 the spiritual aspect just didn't exist. 1600 01:22:24,330 --> 01:22:26,157 At least I know it wasn't in my being. 1601 01:22:27,377 --> 01:22:29,422 But after we broke up and I moved south, 1602 01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:32,512 I met a girl who was a Christian, 1603 01:22:32,686 --> 01:22:35,037 and she told me about Jesus Christ, 1604 01:22:35,210 --> 01:22:38,562 and how important it was that I receive him into my life. 1605 01:22:38,736 --> 01:22:39,998 Then I looked into it. 1606 01:22:41,695 --> 01:22:44,394 In 1979, I accepted him as my Lord and Savior, 1607 01:22:46,091 --> 01:22:48,964 and the moment I did, my spiritual eyes were opened. 1608 01:22:50,487 --> 01:22:52,445 I'd like to ask you to look into it, too. 1609 01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:55,318 It's most important. 1610 01:23:01,106 --> 01:23:02,064 I better go. 1611 01:23:04,544 --> 01:23:05,981 - Tell your parents I said hello. 1612 01:23:10,376 --> 01:23:11,769 - Thanks for talking with me. 1613 01:23:21,692 --> 01:23:23,955 Of all the things you ever made me, 1614 01:23:24,129 --> 01:23:26,130 did I ever tell you what my favorite was? 1615 01:23:28,046 --> 01:23:28,655 - No. 1616 01:23:30,222 --> 01:23:32,050 - It was that drawing of the sun, 1617 01:23:32,224 --> 01:23:34,313 and the clouds and the rainbow. 1618 01:23:34,487 --> 01:23:35,358 You remember that? 1619 01:23:38,013 --> 01:23:38,621 - Yes. 1620 01:23:40,362 --> 01:23:42,059 - Do you remember what it said? 1621 01:23:45,716 --> 01:23:46,499 What did it say? 1622 01:23:50,721 --> 01:23:54,072 - "Me and you, us, forever." 1623 01:23:58,642 --> 01:24:00,818 - It's too bad it didn't happen. 1624 01:24:06,215 --> 01:24:09,827 [melancholy orchestral music] 1625 01:24:21,752 --> 01:24:23,971 Goodbye, Mrs. Simmons. 1626 01:24:24,146 --> 01:24:27,932 [melancholy orchestral music continues] 1627 01:24:28,106 --> 01:24:30,587 [door creaks] 1628 01:24:46,342 --> 01:24:48,735 [car starts] 1629 01:26:03,897 --> 01:26:07,597 [melancholy orchestral music] 1630 01:26:18,434 --> 01:26:21,263 [door knocking] 1631 01:26:32,404 --> 01:26:33,188 Hey. 1632 01:26:34,276 --> 01:26:35,320 - Hey. 1633 01:26:35,494 --> 01:26:37,322 - I owe you an apology. 1634 01:26:38,628 --> 01:26:42,153 The way I ended that phone call today was just wrong. 1635 01:26:42,327 --> 01:26:43,459 I'm sorry. 1636 01:26:43,633 --> 01:26:45,460 - No, it's okay. 1637 01:26:45,635 --> 01:26:47,463 - I never meant to treat you like that. 1638 01:26:49,769 --> 01:26:50,727 - It's okay. 1639 01:26:54,731 --> 01:26:56,776 [peaceful orchestral music] 1640 01:26:56,950 --> 01:26:59,300 - I wanna thank you for being there for me 1641 01:26:59,475 --> 01:27:00,476 through all of this. 1642 01:27:01,781 --> 01:27:02,652 You've been great. 1643 01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:10,746 Well, it's late. 1644 01:27:11,878 --> 01:27:12,705 Goodnight. 1645 01:27:14,794 --> 01:27:15,665 - Dave? 1646 01:27:19,407 --> 01:27:20,278 How did it go? 1647 01:27:25,675 --> 01:27:28,678 - The way it was supposed to. [chuckles] 1648 01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:31,855 See you Tuesday night? 1649 01:27:36,816 --> 01:27:40,385 [light orchestral music] 1650 01:28:05,758 --> 01:28:09,980 [light orchestral music continues] 1651 01:28:35,614 --> 01:28:39,835 [light orchestral music continues] 1652 01:29:05,383 --> 01:29:09,518 [light orchestral music continues] 1653 01:29:35,152 --> 01:29:39,374 [light orchestral music continues] 1654 01:30:05,617 --> 01:30:09,839 [light orchestral music continues] 1655 01:30:35,473 --> 01:30:39,434 [light orchestral music continues] 1656 01:31:05,677 --> 01:31:09,812 [light orchestral music continues]