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[melancholy orchestral music]
[birds chirping]
- Remember now, girls.
You're staying with your mom this weekend.
- But we're supposed to be with you.
- I know, but we switched a few weeks back.
She had somewhere to go? - Oh, yeah, I forgot.
- Girls know where she went? - She went to see some man.
- Michelle.
- Some man who?
- We don't know, Dad, we never met him.
- It's about the tenth one, isn't it?
- What, Dad?
- Nothing.
- I'm sorry, Dad, I didn't mean to.
- I know, it's okay.
Come on, let's get going.
I don't want you girls late for school.
[pensive orchestral music]
- Morning, Dave. - Morning, Sue.
- She called at 8:01.
- Was she mad? - No, she was in a good mood.
She said hello and even asked how I was doing.
- She must want something.
No, I can take it.
No, I'm sure.
Okay, well...
Bye.
Wants me to take another weekend for her.
This time, no switching.
Must be in love.
- Must be.
You okay?
- Not really.
Sue?
- Yeah.
- Do you ever get used to this?
- Used to it?
Yes.
Like it?
No.
- [Dave] You know, it still hurts me
every time I think about it.
- [Paul] I'm sorry, man.
- It's just not right.
It's never been right, it's never gonna be right.
- [Paul] Well, maybe you should try to avoid her.
- I do.
Most of the time, I don't see her,
the way custody's set up, but every once in a while,
we run into each other.
She knows it hurts me when I see her.
- Oh, if she knows it hurts you,
I'm sure she arranges it once in a while.
- You know what she does?
When I've got the girls and she calls
to talk to them at night,
instead of calling me from her cell phone,
she'll call me from her boyfriend's phone,
so I'll see his name pop up on the caller ID.
- It's just the devil that's using her, man.
He's just trying to tear you up inside.
- Yeah, he's doing a really good job of it, let me tell ya.
- You know, Dave,
maybe it's time you try and meet someone else.
You are free to remarry.
- I don't know.
- You should try and get out a little more.
Get involved with a singles group or something.
- [chuckles] I don't think so.
- [Paul] Probably do you a lot of good.
- Ah, it's not me.
- Well, hang in there, you gonna make it.
God's gonna see you through.
- Sometimes I wonder.
- Hey, when we get the contract with the client group,
that'll make you feel better.
- Oh, right, like the contract of the century's
gonna make me feel all better.
- It can't hurt.
- Yeah, we'll see if they go for it.
- Oh, they're gonna go for it, it's very fair.
- Oh, it's fair all right,
but these guys don't want fair, do they?
They wanna have the edge.
- [chuckles] Yeah, you got that right.
But I think God's gonna make it happen.
I got a good feeling about this.
We'll soon enough, tomorrow is June 2nd,
and that is the deadline.
We should know something, first thing in the morning.
- What did you just say?
- [Paul] We should know first thing in the morning.
- No, no, what day it was.
- June 2nd.
[Dave chuckles]
What?
What about it?
- Well, June 2nd was the day I broke up
with my old high school girlfriend.
- You still remember the date?
- Yeah.
She was my first love.
- First love, huh?
- Name was Mary.
Did you ever have a girlfriend in high school?
- Not really, I mean, I played football,
and there was this girl named Regina.
We dated on and off a little, but nothing serious.
I mean, I was a lineman, not many girls get excited
about dating a lineman, if you know what I mean.
- Mary was a cheerleader.
- [Paul] And what were you, a running back?
- Me?
No, I didn't play football.
I ran cross country and track.
- So, how'd you get the cheerleader, then?
- What're you talking about, us runners got all the chicks.
Z-
E-
B-
U.
- "Zebu?"
- And that is a triple-letter score on the Z.
- Zebu's a word?
- Sure it is.
- What does zebu mean?
- What do I look like, a dictionary here?
I don't know what all the Z words mean.
I just know that I memorized a bunch of 'em once.
It's a word!
- Ashley, is zebu a word?
- No, he's just making it up.
- Your father got straight A's in English and spelling
all through school, I'm not making anything up.
- Yes, you are, zebu is not a word.
- Zebra is, but not zebu.
- Hey, hey, hey, young lady.
That is my word and I'm leaving it.
It's an animal overseas somewhere.
- Challenge him!
He's trying to trick you.
- I'm not trying to trick anybody.
- I'm going to challenge you.
- Okay.
But if you challenge and you're wrong, you lose a turn.
Then you'll probably lose the game.
- I'm challenging.
[phone rings]
- Tried to warn ya.
[phone rings]
Hello.
Hold on just a minute.
It's your mom.
- Hey, Mom.
- I don't believe it, you are so lucky.
- There is no such thing as luck, it's an animal, isn't it?
- Yes, "a mammal of Africa and Asia."
[chuckles] Dad.
[Dave chuckles]
[melancholy orchestral music]
- [Paul] Did you hear the news?
- They signed the contract.
- [Paul] How'd you know?
- [Dave] I didn't, you just told me.
- They signed the contract.
Aren't you excited?
- Yeah, that's good.
- "That's good?"
What do you mean? That's great.
- Do you remember that girl I told you about yesterday?
- [Paul] What girl?
- Mary. - The old girlfriend?
- Yeah.
I was flippin' through the stations
on the way into work this morning,
and I heard a song from 1974 that was "our song."
Now what do you think the chances of that happening are?
- I don't know, but who cares?
The contract!
- Come on, man, it brought back a lot of good memories.
- We just landed the biggest marketing deal
in the history of this company,
and you're thinking about some high school girl?
- Not just some girl, Paul.
She was the greatest.
January 5th, 1974, is the day we met.
We lived in different towns, about three miles apart.
My cousin played for her high school basketball team.
He was a junior and so was she.
I was a senior.
He arranged for me to meet her at one of the games.
So I talked to her a little bit that night,
and then I called her the next day and asked her out.
And she said yes. [chuckles]
And that's how it all started.
And I remember telling my brother on February 5th,
just one month later, that I would never,
ever break up with this girl.
That she was the most perfect,
beautiful girl in the world for me.
- But you broke up with her.
- We dated for two years, four months and 28 days.
Yeah, I broke up with her.
- Which was June 2nd,
the day that this company landed its biggest contract.
- No, it was June 2nd, 1976, the day that I was
a total idiot and let go of the greatest thing I ever had.
I should've married that girl.
[Paul sighs]
- You know, Dave.
Maybe you should see a counselor or somethin'.
Go to one of those divorce recovery groups.
- Are you kidding me, and listen to all those sob stories?
No way.
- Well, they've got Christian groups that meet.
- No, I don't need any of that stuff, I'm fine.
- You might wanna check it out.
Besides, you need to move forward, not backward.
- Why, because I told you a little bit about Mary?
There's nothing wrong in talking about her.
- But it just wasn't in God's plan.
That's why you didn't marry her.
- No, I didn't marry her because I was young and stupid.
- But you once told me that if you had not moved out
of New York State, you probably would've never found Jesus.
Now, you know there's nothing more valuable
than having God in your life.
- That's true, but,
why didn't he allow me to become a Christian up there?
And why didn't he allow Mary and I to get married?
How was school, sweetie, did you learn anything?
- [Michelle] Um, nope.
- [chuckles] Michelle, you've been in school all year
and you haven't learned a thing?
- [Michelle] Dad. [chuckles]
Do you wanna talk to Ashley again?
- No, no, honey, I don't need to talk to her.
I love you both. - Love you, too.
- Have a good weekend, I'll call you tomorrow night, okay?
- All right. - All right, goodnight.
God bless. - Goodnight.
[Dave sighs]
[melancholy orchestral music]
- [Cheerleaders] Defense!
Defense, defense!
[audience cheers]
- Hey, Paul?
You ever think of that high school sweetheart of yours?
- [Paul] Who?
- The girl you dated in high school.
You ever think about her?
- You mean Regina? - Yeah.
- [chuckles] No, man, we only dated a little.
I told you, I was a lineman.
[Dave chuckles]
Besides, I have got the godliest lady the Lord
ever put on this earth for a wife.
- You've really got a good marriage, don't you?
- I've got a great marriage.
And it's not because of me, it's because of her.
- I'm glad for you.
God knows I tried in my marriage.
- I hear you.
But it takes two.
- It takes two to get married,
and it only takes one to get divorced.
- I'm telling you, you need to go
to one of those recovery groups.
Talk to people who've walked through this stuff before.
It'll help you work through it.
- You know what I really need to do?
I need to travel back to 1974 and start all over again
with the greatest girl that ever came my way.
And this time, hang onto her.
- You've really been thinking a lot about this girl.
- Yeah, I have.
- Well, that was 30 years ago, you can't do that.
- Do what?
- Well, you can't live in the past,
and you can't go back in time.
- I can, in my mind and in my dreams.
- Yeah, but when you wake up, you'll be back
in the real world where you're divorced with two daughters.
Dave, you gotta go on from here.
[melancholy orchestral music]
[keyboard clacks]
- Here's the Calaway file. - Oh, thanks.
- [Sue] You okay?
- Yeah, I was just doing a little daydreaming.
- [Sue] Okay.
- Hey, Sue?
Did you ever go to one of those
divorce recovery groups when, you know?
- Yeah, I went to the one that meets over
at Southside Fellowship.
Don't have to be a member of the church to go.
- Does it still meet?
- As far as I know, I can find out, if you'd like.
- Did it help you?
- You know what? It really did.
- How?
- Um, just listening to other people
who were going through the same things I was.
It's mostly the victims that are in those classes.
Pretty good therapy, though.
- Think I should go?
- Well it wouldn't hurt you, if that's what you're thinking.
- That's not what I'm thinkin'.
- And it would not be a waste of time,
if that's what you're thinking.
- Here's what I'm thinking.
No matter how I look at this, it just doesn't add up.
How does a woman destroy a family,
with two children and a devoted husband,
after 19 years of marriage, I mean,
why does God allow something like that to happen?
- You can't blame God, Dave.
She's the one that made the choice.
- But he allowed it, he saw this coming,
and he could've done something to prevent it.
- Maybe he tried?
- He didn't try hard enough.
- I don't have the answers for you.
- Does anybody?
- Well, the group will help and you should go.
I'm gonna get the information for you.
- I probably won't use it, but thanks.
- So, what're you gonna do with that bonus check?
- [Dave] I don't know, haven't really thought about it.
- Well, I'll tell you what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna take the little lady on a cruise.
We're gonna spend some quality time together,
praise the Lord, and enjoy seven days in the Caribbean.
Or is it Caribbean?
- It's fine, either way.
Hey, I'd love to go.
- Sorry, buddy, this trip is just for two.
- [Dave] When do you leave?
- Well, as soon as I can schedule the time off.
Hopefully next month.
- Well, happy sailing.
- Thank you.
[Dave chuckles]
You know, the Lord is really blessing us.
I mean, we made that big deal,
and God has rewarded us with a nice bonus.
Everybody needs a little R&R.
Even Jesus took some R&R when he was on earth.
- I wonder if he took a little cruise.
- Hey, he didn't have to take a cruise on the water.
He just took a walk on it.
[Dave chuckles]
[somber orchestral music]
- This class is to help you cope with your situation.
Now, everybody here is either divorced or separated,
or going through a divorce.
Some of you still want your marriages to come back together.
Some of you don't know what happened.
And all of you probably wish this had never happened
and are wondering where God is in all of this.
Well, I'm here to tell you
that he's right in the middle of it.
And if you let him, he'll see you through it.
One way or another.
And he has a purpose for allowing you to go through this.
Even though you may not see it, or understand why.
We've got a couple of new people with us tonight,
and what we usually do is have you introduce yourself,
share with us what you want.
Everything that is said in this room, stays in this room.
Just remember that everybody here
is going through the same thing that you are.
We're just here to help each other, okay?
Dave?
- My name is Dave and I'm divorced,
but not by my own choice.
I have two daughters.
And that's about it.
- Is there anything else you'd like to share with us?
- No.
To tell you the truth, I really don't know why I'm here.
- Well, you're here for a reason, Dave.
The Lord guided you here tonight.
- I guess.
- Well, we're just here to help you if we can.
- Think you can turn back the clock?
- You mean like turn back time and start all over again?
- Yeah, you got it.
- Well, a time machine I haven't perfected yet, Dave.
[chuckles] But we're glad you came.
You wanna tell us who you are?
- My name is Amanda.
I'm separated.
My husband was unfaithful and left with another woman.
We have two kids, boy and a girl,
and they're eleven and eight years old,
and this is the first time I've done anything like this.
[birds chirping]
- Good morning, Sue. - Morning, Dave.
- Well, I went to that meeting last night.
- And?
- It was just what I thought it was gonna be.
- Which was?
- Bunch of people sittin' around for an hour,
sharing one heartache after another.
The leader makes his introduction speech saying,
"God has a purpose in this situation."
You tell me, what purpose could God
possibly have in allowing divorce?
- God hates divorce. - Well, I got news for him.
In case he hasn't noticed lately, there's an epidemic
of it going on in this country, and more so in the church.
You know, I read that there are more divorces among
so-called Christians than there are in the secular world?
And why is that?
Nobody knows.
Nobody's doing anything about it, either.
- Sounds like you're made at God.
- Why not?
He's the one running the show, isn't he?
- Look, I know how painful this is, Dave.
Remember me, a few years ago?
- It just doesn't make any sense.
- I know, but trust me, the group will help.
It's a place for you to vent.
- "Vent?"
I'm borderline wanting to rip somebody's head off,
and we both know her name.
- I'm so sorry you're going through this, I really am.
- Yeah, I know.
Thanks.
- But you're gonna get through this, Dave.
It might not seem like it now, but you will.
[dramatic orchestral music]
[peaceful orchestral music]
[melancholy orchestral music]
[birds chirping]
- I heard another Dave and Mary song today.
- Huh?
- On the oldies station on the way in.
Play a lot of songs from the '70s.
- I thought you listened to the Word
when you drove into work?
- I do, usually.
Just been catching a few tunes.
- Must've been some girl. - She was, man.
I told you, she was the greatest.
I've been thinking about going to see her.
- [Paul] What?
- I've been thinking about going to see her.
- No way, man.
You don't need to be doing anything like that.
Isn't she married?
- Yeah, her name's Simmons now, Mary Simmons.
At least, she was married last time I knew.
She's got a couple of daughters,
they must be college age by now.
- Well, then you definitely need to stay away from her,
if she's married and has a family.
- I just wanna say hi.
- Dave, no, that would be wrong.
This ain't the Lord telling you to do this.
- [Dave] Well, who is it then, the devil?
- Well, sounds like you are telling you to do this.
- Come on, man, I thought you were my friend.
- I am your friend, I'm your best friend and that's why
I'm telling you, you don't need to be going to see
your old girlfriend, who's married with her own family.
Now, nothing good can come of that, only trouble.
- Nothing bad is gonna happen.
- No, man, you wouldn't want your wife's old boyfriend
coming around if the roles were reversed, would you?
- I don't know.
- Dave, come on, be serious.
Would you?
[phone rings]
- Hello.
- [Carla] May I speak with Dave, please?
- Speaking.
- [Carla] Dave, my name's Carla.
I was at the divorce meeting last week.
We didn't meet or anything, but,
I noticed you weren't there tonight.
- Well, I don't think I'm coming back.
I just kinda went to check it out.
- [Carla] I was wondering if we could talk for a minute.
Do you have a moment?
- Yes.
- [Carla] I know you might think this is kind of strange but
I feel like I'm supposed to talk to you.
I wanted to talk to you last week, but I didn't get up
the nerve and then I didn't see you there tonight.
- Well, like I said, I don't think I'm coming back.
Just out of curiosity, how did you get my number?
- [Carla] I got it from the registration sheet.
Look, I don't mean to bother you or anything.
I just thought maybe you could use a friend.
- I'm fine, really, thank you.
- Well, then I thought maybe I could use a friend.
Do you think we could just get together and talk?
[coffee splashes]
I was born and raised near Cleveland,
but moved here after I got married.
My husband was transferred with his job.
I met him about 12 years ago, just after college.
We only dated for eight months.
He left after our ninth anniversary.
The divorce was filed another year later.
We had no children.
- [Dave] Was he a Christian?
- He said he was.
- [Dave] Was there a Biblical reason for him to leave?
- No, not at all.
- [Dave] Why'd he leave, then?
- Looking back, I realized that our relationship
was based mostly on physical attraction.
We didn't have a strong spiritual base
and quickly grew apart over the years.
We both knew that our marriage was a mistake,
but I was committed to it, I didn't want it to end.
We started arguing a lot and then one day,
he decided to leave.
You know, I think he got tired of trying,
or at least tired of me.
- Do you think he was seeing another woman?
- I don't think so, but I don't know.
- People get divorced today like it's nothing.
They must think God's blind or something.
Is it still hard for you?
- No, not anymore.
I wasn't devastated by it.
I'd married the wrong person and I knew it.
But I tried to stick with it and he didn't.
- Well why do you go to the group, then?
Listen to other people's stories?
- Why I go to the group
has very little to do with my ex-husband.
I go for something to do, for fellowship.
It gets lonely sometimes and...
It's really weird what your mind starts to do
when you're alone again.
- How do you mean?
- Well, I hope you don't think this is silly, but,
for a while, I was thinking a lot
about this guy I dated in high school.
Pretty stupid, huh?
- In high school?
- Yeah.
His name was Brian, he was a great guy.
We got along really well.
We dated for almost two years.
I must've been pretty lonely to be thinking about him.
Don't you think?
- Oh, I don't know. [chuckles]
So what happened to the happy couple?
- After we'd been dating for about a year and a half,
I just didn't feel the same way about him.
I can't really explain it.
I tried to keep it going, but I knew that it was gonna end.
So I broke up with him, the summer after we graduated.
I hurt him really badly.
He's been married now for 13 years.
And I'm divorced.
- I'm sorry.
- Me, too.
He was my first love.
You know what they say about first loves.
[Dave chuckles]
- So when was the last time you saw him?
- About seven or eight years.
Seven and a half, at least.
So, why did you go to the group?
- My wife left me about a year and a half ago,
but we've been officially divorced for five months.
I have two daughters, 15 and 17.
Joint custody, she gets them one week, I get them the other.
Monday to Monday, one phone call a night.
- [Carla] So what happened?
- She said she didn't have feelings for me,
and she didn't love me anymore.
That's not the real reason, though,
that's just the one she gave me.
- [Carla] Oh?
- She started seeing another man before we were separated.
- [Carla] How do you know?
- I know.
- [Carla] Are you sure?
- Yes, I'm sure.
- Is she a Christian?
- Said she was.
- Biblical reason to leave?
[Dave chuckles]
- Not at all.
- That sounds familiar.
- Yeah. [chuckles]
Anyway, the last thing I ever wanted was to be divorced,
and have my family split up.
I've remained faithful to her, even till now.
- Are you still hoping she'll come back?
- I don't know what I'm hoping for anymore.
I mean, the girls and I prayed about it and they want it.
And she's dated quite a few men since she left.
It's a nightmare, any way you look at it.
- How are your daughters taking all of this?
- They're going along with it, I mean what else can they do?
They go back and forth from house to house, it's awful.
If that's what she wants, [chuckles] at least she's happy.
- She's not happy, Dave, she just thinks that she is.
One day, she is gonna wake up and realize what she's done.
- Yeah, I'd like to see that.
But I doubt it.
No, she's doing what she does best.
Hurt people, cause trouble, be contentious, bring chaos.
That is my beautiful ex-bride.
Sorry, I shouldn't be saying any of this.
- No, it's okay.
- I've got nobody to blame but myself.
I didn't marry the right person, either.
I was totally faithful to her and committed to my family,
and I just made a wrong choice.
You know when you said you dated for eight months?
I've got you beat.
Seven and a half.
And we got married for the physical attraction, too,
so I can totally relate.
- Join the club, huh?
- Join the club.
Anyway, lately it's not my ex that I've been thinking about.
You know on the phone when you said you felt
like you were supposed to talk to me?
Well, let's just say,
I'm normally pretty skeptical about things like that,
but I think maybe this time I was wrong.
See, I've been thinking about this girl
that I dated in high school.
Her name was Mary and she was my first love, too.
- How long were you together?
- Two years, four months, 28 days.
- You mean you know exactly?
- [chuckles] Yes.
She was a great girl.
And we had been dating for about nine months when I went
off to college and she was in her last year of high school.
I used to come home every weekend to see her.
We'd write two or three letters a week.
And then in the spring of '75,
I woke up at college one day and something had changed.
I don't know how or why, but I,
I just wasn't as excited to see her as I used to be.
We continued to date until June of '76,
then I broke it off with her.
We didn't fight or anything, I,
I just lost it for her.
And I don't know why.
[fax machine whines]
[phone rings]
Good morning, Susie Q.
- You're in a good mood.
What's her name?
- Actually, my dear friend, I did meet someone.
- So, does this woman have a name?
- Her name is Carla and it's nice to know that I'm not alone
in what I've been thinking and feeling.
- Carla, nice name!
- It's not what you think, she's much younger than I am.
- So, where'd you meet her?
- At the divorce recovery group.
- Ah-hah, I thought you weren't gonna go back there?
- I didn't.
- Then I don't get it.
- She called me.
- And now you can't stop thinking about her.
- Actually, it's not Carla that I've been thinking about.
- Your ex?
- Nope.
- Not your ex?
Okay, I have no idea what you're talking about.
- Her name is Mary.
- Mary? Who's Mary?
- Mary is a girl that I dated
for about two and a half years,
who I haven't seen in almost 25 years,
who's probably very happily married,
while I'm very miserably divorced, and who, if I'd married,
I wouldn't be in this nightmare today.
How's that for an explanation?
- And all of this came to light
because you met a woman named Carla?
- Not all of it, but some of it.
- Why have you never mentioned Mary to me?
- Well, when you're married,
you don't usually talk about your old girlfriends.
- I guess not, so what about Carla, then?
[bright orchestral music]
- Carla is a new friend,
who is going through the same thing that I'm going through.
- So maybe that meeting wasn't a waste of time after all?
[Dave chuckles]
- Hey, girl. - Oh, what a morning.
The phone has been ringing off the hook.
How you doin'? - I'm fine.
- How was the meeting? - It was good.
- Did you meet someone?
- You know, every time I go to that meeting,
you always ask me that. - Oh, I do not.
- Yes, you do.
- Really?
I hadn't noticed.
- Have my samples come in?
- They're on the table. - Thank you very much.
- Well, did you?
- What?
- Meet someone.
- Oh, I kinda like this one.
- Carla? - What do you think?
- I think you're avoiding the question, yes or no?
- Sort of.
- How do you "sort of" meet someone?
- It's hard to explain.
- Try me.
- It was nothing.
- Does this one have potential?
- Oh, don't be silly.
- Carla, I am your best friend.
- Nikki, I just spoke with a man, that's all.
He's just a friend, and besides, he's much older than I am.
- Well, love comes in many packages.
- Okay, I've gotta go meet a client.
- What's his name?
- Bye.
- [Nikki] His name?
- Bye!
- Carla!
- Brian.
[keyboard clacks] [bright orchestral music]
- [Dave] I wanna go see her.
- Go see Mary? - Mm-hm.
I'm gonna get in a plane, fly to New York and see her.
Does that sound crazy?
I just wanna talk to her for a while, just me and her alone.
Can you relate?
- Perfectly.
- Did you ever feel like that with Brian?
- Several times.
- You ever think about calling him?
- Yeah, but I can't, I mean, he's married now,
and I'm not gonna do anything to hurt that.
Besides, my troubles aren't his problem.
- So you've had no contact with him,
other than that time, eight years ago?
- And that was by accident, I mean,
we just sort of ran into each other.
- But don't you ever wanna see him or talk to him?
- Yes, but I can't.
He's married and that settles it.
I had my chance with him.
What's that old saying, "you're the master of your decisions
but the slave of your choices."
- I don't wanna have a guilt complex about seeing Mary.
I don't wanna break up her marriage or anything.
- Well, then what do you want?
[melancholy orchestral music]
- I don't know.
I think I wanna apologize to her.
I want her to know how sorry I am for breaking up with her.
I wanna tell her what a great person I thought she was.
I want her to know that.
- When I saw Brian, it wasn't the same.
Too many things had happened from the time that we dated
to when I saw him again.
I was remembering the guy that I dated.
Not the man he is now.
- I understand.
It's just that I had such a deep love for Mary.
That first year we were together?
It was the most fantastic feeling in my life.
It was like I couldn't be with her enough,
and she felt the same.
- But that girl doesn't exist anymore.
She's only in your memory.
- I know, I just wanna see her, I wanna talk to her.
She was such a beautiful girl.
- What if she looks completely different now?
- She probably does.
I still wanna see her.
- You really loved her, didn't you?
- Yeah.
I did.
Those were the greatest days of my life.
- So, do you think he likes you?
- Would you stop?
It's not like that, you have a one-track mind.
- Can I help it that I want you to be as happy as I am?
- It's like I told you before, I am not seeking anybody out.
At least, I'm not trying to.
- Okay, so what're you trying to do, then?
- I am trying to wait on the Lord.
- Well, I can't argue with that.
So why did he call you?
- We have something very much in common.
- Oh, yeah, what's that?
- My Brian is his Mary.
- His first love?
- The hardest part for me has been getting over the hurt.
I don't think you ever get over the hurt.
- Speaking from a man's perspective,
I think the only thing that really helps you
get over the hurt is another love interest.
Someone else to love and someone who loves you.
- [Group Leader] The Lord can heal your hurt.
- But in my case, he hasn't.
I'm still hurting very much.
- All I know is that I was totally devastated
by my situation and the only thing that's been helping
is the fact that I've been thinking about another woman.
It's helping ease the pain.
- I agree, I think meeting someone else,
or even thinking about someone else really does help.
- Let's face it, divorce is total destruction of the heart.
It's like a grenade goes off inside and shatters you
into a million little pieces.
Now I know the Lord can put 'em back together again,
but how does he do it?
I think maybe he brings in another love.
Someone even greater than what you thought you had before.
Only another person can really heal the hurt.
That's how I see it.
- So, you spoke up a bit tonight.
You getting into this a little?
- I don't know why I say anything at all.
I'm the one who needs the answers.
You know, in the few times I've talked with you,
I've never even asked you what you do.
I'm sorry, it shows you how consumed I am with myself.
- That's all right.
I'm an interior decorator, I own my own business.
- No kidding.
- Yeah, I've been doing it for several years.
- You still like it? - I do.
- You do okay with it? - I do okay.
- How do you get business?
- Well, I have my name in some places around the city,
plus word of mouth.
The Lord keeps me goin'.
- Sounds good.
Glad for ya.
- So, I guess I'll just see you next week.
- Hey, listen, um, the girls are with their mother tonight.
Do you wanna get a cup of coffee or somethin'?
- What'd you guys talk about?
- Different things, but mostly about Mary.
- [chuckles] Okay, this guy is starting to sound obsessed.
- I can tell she was really special to him.
She was an artist, she used to make him things.
- [Nikki] Oh, yeah, like that?
- Like anniversary cards.
- What do you mean, anniversary cards?
- You know, "we've been together six months, nine months,"
that sort of thing?
She used to make him something different every month.
One time, she took a glass bottle and put little memories
and pictures of their relationship inside it.
- Oh, very romantic.
All right, so if this girl was so special,
why did he break up with her?
- I asked him about that last night.
- There were two things that hurt our relationship,
and they were both my fault.
I was a very immature person and then I was jealous.
I didn't wanna be, but I was.
And she never gave me a reason to be jealous.
I was just possessive.
I was even jealous of guys she dated before I came along.
- A lot of teenage boys are like that.
- I was pretty bad.
Anyway, that hurt our relationship.
- What was the second thing?
[melancholy orchestral music]
- After I'd gone to college for a while,
I thought I wanted to date other girls.
I don't know why.
I already had the perfect one for me.
- Dave, almost everyone has a first love
that they don't marry.
- I really blew it.
If I could, I would go back and start all over.
And this time, I wouldn't let her go.
- But you didn't have Christ back then.
- And I don't have her now.
- Now I'm starting to feel sorry for this guy.
Have you seen a picture of her?
- No. - Well, where is she now?
- In New York State, about 20 miles from where they grew up.
- So he left and she stayed?
- Yeah.
- Carla, you are an attractive woman.
Do you think he's interested in you?
- I don't know.
- Are you interested in him?
- I don't know that, either.
All I do know is that I've walked
the road that he's on right now.
I've gone through all of the emotions
of wanting my first love again.
- You've never sounded as bad off as this guy.
- Well, maybe my relationship with Brian
wasn't the same as his with Mary.
- Maybe?
We're talking about a girl he dated 30 years ago.
[chuckles] She must've been really something.
- Yeah, she must have been.
- Do we need potatoes?
- I think so.
- Yes, we do.
- Russet or red?
- Take your pick.
- Oh, hey, there's Mom.
[melancholy orchestral music]
- You should've called him.
- He had his girls all weekend, he was probably busy.
- You still should've called.
- Maybe I should stop meeting him.
- Incredible, she meets a guy she likes,
and he doesn't even know she's there.
- I don't like anybody.
- Oh, no? - No.
- I think you do.
- Well, you think wrong, he's just a friend.
Someone to talk to.
I don't know why I tell you anything.
I mean, I even talk to a guy,
and you've got me walking down the aisle with him.
- Who, me?
- Besides, he's 13 years older than I am,
and if we were to be married, when he was 95 I'd only be 82.
- [gasps] Oh, we wouldn't want that now, would we?
- Hey, Dave.
Come here, I wanna show you something.
Check it out.
- Well, look at this.
Seven-day cruise, five ports of call.
And here I thought you were all talk.
- No way, man.
This is the second honeymoon that is long overdue.
I went online this morning to check the weather.
68 degrees here, 86 degrees there.
I love hot weather.
- Well, I'm glad for ya, when do you leave?
- In four weeks, and I am looking forward to it.
You just try and keep things in order while I'm gone.
I don't wanna come back to an office that needs patching up.
- Well, we'll do our best.
- Are you all right, Dave?
You know I wasn't trying to hurt you,
showing you these tickets?
I apologize if I was insensitive.
- No, you were fine, Paul.
I'm glad for you, [chuckles] really, I am.
Thanks anyway.
[light orchestral music]
[peaceful orchestral music]
[melancholy orchestral music]
Hi.
- Hi.
- How you doin'?
- I'm okay, how are you doin'?
- Doin' good, I'm doin' good.
You don't mind if I sit over on this side
of the room tonight, do you?
- No, not at all.
- I, uh,
I made a reservation today.
- So how do you make sense of your life?
My husband's seeing someone else, and that kills me.
Even if he decided to come back, how do I...
People say you need to forgive.
Okay, I can, I can do that, but how do you forget?
When I look ahead, I don't see daylight.
I feel I'm walking in total darkness.
- [Dave] I know exactly how she feels.
- Can you offer her any advice?
- You're the man with all the answers, not me.
[group leader chuckles]
- Well, I'm not sure there are any answers,
when you're going through something like this.
Nothing really makes sense.
The hardest part's just accepting what's happened.
And if you can do that, then you're on the road to healing.
But most people have a hard time doing that.
And so they deal with their hurt in different ways.
And all of these are understandable.
You know, some people tell themselves that they're okay.
That they can handle this,
that they're just going to be strong and move on.
But it's really only a front and usually, in time,
they break down.
Some people get very bitter and angry.
And they stay that way for quite some time.
Makes them feel better.
But the Bible says that bitterness troubles us.
And so that's really not a road you wanna travel.
And others, [chuckles] tend to look backwards.
Since it's only a nightmare when you look ahead,
you try to return to a more pleasant time in your life.
Or relive an old relationship.
[melancholy orchestral music]
But the key element is to accept the things that did happen,
and accept the things that didn't.
I know it's not easy,
and you can't do this on your own.
In your time of deepest pain,
you really need to turn to the Lord.
Jesus Christ is the only one who can see you through this.
- I have concluded that separation and divorce are no fun.
- Agreed.
- We agree about a lot of things.
- Yeah, we do, don't we?
So, um, are you going home?
Do you wanna get something to eat?
- I'd like to, but I got the girls tonight,
so I should probably get home.
- Of course, yeah.
- So I guess I'll just, um,
I'll see you later, then.
- Okay.
Have a good night.
- You, too.
[light orchestral music]
- He's actually gonna go see her?
- He made a reservation.
- Is she gonna call her first? - I don't know, I didn't ask.
- Well, you don't think he's just gonna
show up on her doorstep, do you?
- I don't know.
- So he wants to go see his old girlfriend, who is married,
and he wants to see her alone?
How's he think he's gonna pull that off?
- My wife has already packed.
We don't leave for three weeks and she's ready to go.
- [chuckles] No kiddin'.
- I should've done this a long time ago.
- Yeah, but a long time ago,
you didn't have that big fat bonus check.
- You got any plans?
- Hm?
- Your bonus check.
Have you decided what you're gonna do with it?
- Not with all of it.
[phone rings]
- You're still going to that divorce recovery group, right?
- Yeah.
- Is it helping?
- Not really, I like talking to Carla.
That's why I keep going.
- Well, I guess it's helping, then.
- Yeah, I guess.
- So, when do I get to meet this lady?
- We're just friends, we're a couple of people
going through the same thing at the same time, that's all.
- I understand.
[somber orchestral music]
[keyboard clacks]
[phone rings]
- Yes.
- You have a visitor.
- Well, I'm not expecting anyone, did I miss a meeting?
- She says her name is Carla.
- Hey! - Hi.
- How are ya? - I'm good.
- Have you two met?
- Yes, we introduced ourselves.
- Come on in.
- Am I interrupting anything? - No, no, not at all.
- I just got a call this morning from a potential client
across the street and finished up there
and thought I'd stop by and say hello.
- Well, hello, please sit.
Hey, did you get the job?
- Yes, I did, they are completely renovating
their lobby area and meeting rooms.
- Wow, you must be quite the irresistible saleswoman.
- Actually, I pray a lot when I get a new client,
and remind the Lord that I've got bills to pay.
- Hey, when you're done over there,
do you think you can come and spice this place up?
- I think it looks pretty good in here.
- It's been like this for years.
- It still looks good.
[phone rings] - Excuse me.
Yes?
Which Thursday?
No, I can't, I'm gonna be out of town.
Right, so we're gonna have to do it the following week.
Oh, pick any day, but just make sure you run it by Paul.
We don't wanna interfere with his second honeymoon here.
Right.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
- [Carla] Is your trip to New York next Thursday?
- Yes, it is.
- I didn't realize it was coming so soon.
- And I'm feeling really nervous about this.
It's like the first time I met her, I was nervous then.
- I'm sure she was, too.
- Yeah but that's because she knew I was coming to meet her.
This time, she doesn't know I'm coming at all.
- Well, then she won't have time to get nervous.
[Dave chuckles]
- You know, I wonder how she's gonna respond to this.
- Well, if she loved you the way you said she did,
then all the memories will be there.
I think when you date someone for that length of time,
you give them a piece of your heart,
and I don't think you ever get it back.
We can both relate to that, can't we?
- Yes.
Yes, we can.
Girls, I'm gonna be taking a short trip at the end
of this week, so you'll be staying at your mother's.
I will be gone early Thursday till late Friday,
so you're gonna be staying at your mother's Wednesday
and Thursday and then we'll get back on schedule, okay?
- Where are you going?
- New York.
- Oh, you gonna visit Grandma and Grandpa?
- Uh, no, actually, I'm gonna be seeing an old friend.
- Like an old buddy from high school?
- You could say that, sorta.
- Well, can I go with you?
- Well, you'd have to miss the first week of school.
- Yeah?
- How about no?
[chuckles] Nice try, though.
- Thanks a lot. - You're welcome. [chuckles]
[pensive orchestral music]
[keyboard clacks]
[door knocking]
- I got your email about you taking a couple days off.
Is everything okay?
- Yeah, everything's fine.
- Are you sure?
- I'm gonna be taking a little trip.
I thought I should let you know ahead of time,
so I don't have to play 20 Questions when I come back.
- I don't understand.
- I'm goin' up north.
- Up north?
- Going to New York.
- The high school girl.
- What can I say? [chuckles]
- Does she know you're coming?
- No, she doesn't.
- So when are you leaving?
- I'm leaving Thursday, coming back late Friday.
By the way, keep the place running while I'm gone.
I don't wanna have to patch things up when I come back.
- Dave, God doesn't want you to go out
and mess up somebody's marriage.
I can't support you on this.
- I'm just going to say hello to an old friend.
- Well, like I said before, if the roles were reversed,
you wouldn't want this happening to you.
- It's already happened to me,
so don't lay a guilt trip on me.
- I am not trying to lay a guilt trip on you.
- Well, then why do I feel guilty
every time I talk to you about Mary?
- Dave, come on, man.
If were doing this, you'd be all over me!
- I don't think so.
- Just because your wife did you wrong,
doesn't mean you should do the same.
- I'm not doing anything wrong.
I'm not going out there to commit adultery,
and I'm not trying to ruin anybody's marriage.
I'm just going up to talk to someone who, at one time,
was the most special person on the face of the planet to me!
I don't see why I have to ignore her and pretend she doesn't
exist for the rest of my life, you follow what I'm saying?
- I follow, but you've lost your focus on Christ.
- I just wanna see her one time.
- And what're you hoping for?
That she's the same girl you left 30 years ago,
and that you'll fall in love again?
And if that happens, Dave, where does that leave her family?
Now, come on, man, get back in line with Jesus.
Get back on course.
- I'll see you when I get back.
- Dave-
- I said, I'll see you when I get back!
- You always refer to that girl as Mary,
but she is not your Mary anymore.
She's another man's wife.
You need accept that.
- She'll always be Mary to me.
Do you ever get mad at God?
- Well, I think we all get mad at God
at one point or another in life.
- Sometimes it doesn't even seem like he's up there.
- Yeah, it seems that way.
- And what do you do when you get mad at God?
- Well, why do people get mad at God?
- I can think of a few reasons.
- There's only two reasons I can think of.
We get mad at God because we don't get our way.
- When my wife left, the girls and I prayed every day,
every day, that God would put our family back together.
We're praying for his will here, a good thing, right?
He did nothing, absolutely nothing, he just let it happen.
- Remember what the Bible says, "thy will be done on earth,
as it is in heaven?"
Well, sometimes, God's will isn't done here on earth, Dave.
Even if it is a righteous thing.
- What's the second reason?
- Well, we get mad at God because we know he can do
something about a certain situation and he doesn't.
That's probably the real issue here, isn't it?
- That's it exactly, he just lets it happen.
What kind of a God are we serving here?
[group leader sighs] [melancholy music]
- Sometimes it is difficult to understand why God allows
or doesn't allow certain things to happen.
I wrestled with that myself years ago.
But then I discovered a verse in Proverbs
that really helped me through it.
Proverbs 21:30.
"There is no counsel against the Lord."
If the Lord Jesus Christ were to appear to you right now,
and he would answer any question you had
about your situation, the whys, the why-nots,
when he was finished, you'd say, "Thank you.
Thank you, Lord.
You're right."
There wouldn't be any correction,
or anything you could say to him when he was finished,
because there is no counsel against the Lord.
God is perfect, he doesn't make mistakes.
- And this is supposed to make me feel better?
- It will, if you'll give it time to settle in.
You know, I believe God always has
our best interest at heart.
He's trying to form Jesus Christ in us, and that ain't easy.
And it's during these trials that he does his greatest work.
Remember, Dave, nothing grows at 12,000 feet,
but things sure do grow in the valley.
And it's during these valley times of life
that he's doing something big in us.
- I just can't see anything good coming out of this.
I just can't.
- I understand.
But you know, I've also noticed that God doesn't always
let us in on what he's doing, at the time.
He wants us to walk by faith.
The Bible says, "Faith is what pleases God."
You know, when this is all over,
and you've had time to look back,
you're gonna see a great work that he's done in your life.
- 30 years ago,
I dated a girl who was absolutely perfect for me.
And I wonder why we didn't get married.
- You know, Dave, sometimes you just gotta trust
what God allows and doesn't allow.
[keyboard clacks]
[door knocking]
- Hey, Paul.
Listen, I'm sorry about this morning.
I know you're just trying to help.
And I hear what you're saying, you're not wrong.
I'm just still bothered about the whole thing.
- Sure you are.
- I'm very sorry I got upset with you.
- Hey, completely forgiven.
And, um, I don't mean to be pushy with you.
- Nah, you're not.
I love you, man.
- Love you, too, brother.
Hey, Dave.
If, um, if she's not a Christian,
and doesn't know about Jesus,
maybe you can tell her.
[light orchestral music]
[door knocking]
[door creaks]
- I know I should've called,
but I just wanted to stop by for a minute, is that okay?
- [Dave] [chuckles] Sure, come on in.
- Thanks.
[door creaks]
- How are you? - I'm good, how are you?
- I'm okay.
- Just have a seat right in there.
- You have a nice home. - Thank you.
- Do you realize that what I just did to you
is what you'll be doing when you knock on Mary's door?
- Now that you mention it, I guess you're right.
- Are you surprised to see me? - I wasn't expecting you.
- She'll be surprised to see you, too.
Did I catch you off guard? - A little.
- Well, you'll be catching her off guard a lot, so,
don't be worried if she keeps her distance.
- I don't know what I'm expecting.
All I know is I get there at 11:55,
and she lives 30 minutes from the airport.
- Have you thought about how you want her to feel,
when she sees you?
- What do you mean? - Well, just what I said.
Have you really thought about how you want her to feel?
- We're diving into my inner man
a little bit here, aren't we?
- [chuckles] I'm sorry, I'm getting too personal.
- No, no, you're fine.
Okay, you wanna hear a couple of scenarios?
- If you wanna share them.
- Scenario number one.
I get there and I immediately feel guilty, because
she's married and Paul's right, I never should've come.
Kinda like you respecting Brian's marriage
by staying away from him?
Mary feels awkward, too,
because she knows it's not right that I'm there,
and the whole meeting is an absolute disaster.
- And scenario number two?
- Scenario number two.
I find out that her husband divorced her a few years ago,
and she's crushed.
When she sees me, she sees an old, but very special friend.
She forgives me for my immaturity of long ago,
and we pick up our relationship like it never ended.
How does that sound to you?
- It sounds like a fantasy.
[Dave chuckles]
- I am acting like a high schooler here.
Do you think I'm making a mistake doing this?
- I can't answer that.
- Why not?
- I just can't.
- You think I'm wrong for doing this, don't you?
- Next question?
- Come on, Carla.
- Look, I've gotta go, but I got this for you.
- What is it? - It's for you.
- Wait a minute, you just got here!
- Have a good trip, okay? - Hey!
Are you upset?
- No, not at all.
- Well, you don't have to leave.
- Have a great trip, bye.
[melancholy orchestral music]
- If you and I were married and Brian wanted to talk to you,
I'd let him.
I'd understand.
- I'll keep that in mind.
[door creaks]
[melancholy orchestral music]
[birds chirping]
[pensive orchestral music]
[phone rings]
Hey, I was thinking about you, how's it going?
- Well, I'm in a hotel room about five miles from her place.
I gotta tell you, I'm pretty nervous.
- [chuckles] Well, so now what're you gonna do?
- I'm gonna drop by her house early this afternoon,
and try to determine her routine.
I don't know where she works or when she does.
- Or what he does.
- Well, yeah.
You had to say it, didn't ya?
- Sorry.
- Well, like I was saying, I don't know what she does.
If she stays at home or if she works, I need to know that.
- Well, what're you gonna do, spy on her house?
- No.
- Well, it seems like you are.
- Don't make it sound like I'm stalking her or something.
- Well, it will be, sort of.
- I'm not going to be stalking her.
- Well, some people might take it that way.
Why don't you just drive by and if you see a car,
stop in and say hello?
- [chuckles] Are you crazy?
What if her husband's there? I can't do that.
- Why not?
- [Dave] Carla, be serious, I can't do that.
- Why?
- I can't!
I wanna be alone with her.
You know what I mean.
- Well, maybe Paul was right, then.
- What?
Whose side are you on here, anyway?
- I'm on your side, silly!
- Well, it doesn't sound like it to me.
- I just didn't think you were gonna go scope out her house.
I mean, is that why you're there for two days?
One day to check it out and the next day you're gonna-
- Look, I can't just pop in, all right?
And I'm not gonna be stalking her.
- All right, whatever you say.
Just do what you think is best.
- "Just drive by and say hello."
What if her husband answers the door?
What am I gonna do then?
- Dave, God knows what's going on here.
You're not fooling him.
Why don't you just knock on the door,
and leave the results to him?
Are you still there?
- Yeah.
- Are you okay?
- Yeah.
Look, I'm sorry, I'll talk to you later.
- Dave.
- I gotta go, okay?
- Okay.
- Thanks.
I'll see ya later.
- See ya.
[peaceful orchestral music]
[melancholy orchestral music]
[door knocking]
[birds chirping]
[door creaks]
- Dave.
- I know what you're gonna say.
I just get a lot better looking with age.
I'm trying to be humble about it, but what can I say?
- What are you doing here?
- Well, I was driving by and I thought I'd take a chance
and stop by for a moment.
I'm sorry, I should've called ahead.
I hope I'm not interrupting anything.
- No, it's okay.
- I'd like to talk to you for a minute, if that's all right?
- Sure.
Come in.
[door creaks]
Are you up visiting your parents?
- Um, they're fine.
My mother told me about your parents, I'm awfully sorry.
That must've been hard.
- Yes, it was.
- I'm sorry.
Look, I'm probably the last person you expected
to be standing at your front door today, right?
- Well, I can't say that I was expecting you.
- You have a nice house.
- Thanks, it's home.
Well, come on in, sit down.
- Thank you.
You have two daughters, right?
How are they?
- Fine, my oldest daughter is out of college now,
and my youngest just started.
- College?
Wow.
You're really gettin' old.
[Mary chuckles]
- Not any older than you.
So how about you, are you married, do you have children?
- Yes, I have two daughters as well,
but no, I'm not married anymore.
My wife left me about 20 months ago.
- I'm sorry to hear that.
- Yeah, it's been difficult, long story.
- How old are your daughters?
- 17 and 15, Ashley and Michelle.
They split time between their mother and I.
- Any chance you might get back together?
- No, I don't think so.
Too much has happened and it's been too painful.
Hey, [chuckles] look, it's great to see ya.
- It's nice to see you, too.
- What do you do, do you work?
- I'm a secretary over at the elementary school.
- Yeah, you like it?
- I love it.
I like seeing the kids every day.
How about you?
- I work for a media firm in North Carolina, marketing.
Good job and I really like the people I work with.
- That's nice.
- Do you still do art?
- [chuckles] Not really.
Just a little, I doodle now and then.
- Well, you sure made some great doodles for me.
You know, I really loved those things you made me.
- Do you still have any of them?
- No, I wish I did.
I got rid of 'em when I got married.
- I understand.
- Yeah.
You don't have any of the things I gave you, do ya?
- No, I don't think so.
It was at my mom's and when she passed away,
I think it just all got thrown out.
- [chuckles] Threw me out in the trash, eh?
- Wait a minute, I think I'm the one that got dumped on.
[melancholy orchestral music]
- And I'm really sorry that I ever did that to you.
I'd like to talk with you about it.
That's why I came.
Mary, I want you to know,
from the most sincere place in my heart,
that I am very sorry I ever broke up with you.
And I'm very sorry that I ever hurt you.
I never, ever wanted to hurt you,
and I'm really sorry that I did.
We were best friends.
I don't know what got into me.
- We were young.
And you said you wanted to date other girls.
- Yeah, I did.
And I don't know why.
When I already had the perfect one for me.
In fact, you are still the finest girl I have ever known.
I've never loved anybody like I loved you.
- I don't know what to say.
- Just know that I'm sorry,
and you never did anything wrong, it wasn't your fault.
Just know that.
- Okay.
- Have you had a good life?
- Overall, yes.
- I think we could've had a great life together.
- Yeah, well you blew it, buddy.
[Dave chuckles]
- Yeah, I did.
I did.
Now I'm 47 years old.
Divorced, two children.
And I'm alone.
- You'll meet someone else.
- Not like you.
You know, I've thought about you
so many times over the years.
Every January 5th, I think about you.
Every time I'd hear one of our songs you'd pop into my mind.
- Well, I'm flattered, I didn't know.
- Can I ask you a question?
Do you ever think about me?
- Um,
maybe not like you, but
if I hear a song, it jogs a memory.
[Dave chuckles]
- It's really weird seeing you.
You look great.
- You always did have all the lines, didn't you?
- It's not a line.
You know, those two years, four months and 28 days
that we dated were the greatest days of my life.
- I'm surprised you know that.
- What, how long we dated?
[chuckles] Hey, I remember.
We had a great year, that first year together, didn't we?
- Yeah.
Yeah, we did.
- Do you remember that letter you wrote me,
where you pretended we were married and we had two kids?
- A letter?
I don't.
- It was during the summer and I had come to your school,
I was working out on your track and came over
and visited with me and you gave me that letter.
- I don't remember, I'm sorry.
- See, you are gettin' older, your memory's shot.
[both chuckle]
It was a great letter, though.
Nice thought.
- Do you still run?
- No, no, I don't run anymore.
I shoot hoops now and then to keep myself in shape.
- [chuckles] You always wanted to be good at basketball.
- [chuckles] Yeah, I'm still tryin', I guess.
It is so weird to see you again, after all these years.
I've thought about you so many times.
I always wondered how you were doing.
- I'm doin' okay.
- Well, I could sit here and walk down memory lane
with you all day, but that probably wouldn't be wise.
I should go.
I just wanted you to know that I was sorry.
I hope I didn't make you feel uncomfortable.
- No.
No, you were fine.
Just surprised me a little.
[peaceful orchestral music]
- You know, I needed to tell you something else.
When you and I dated,
we never talked about spiritual things.
We both believed in God, but,
the spiritual aspect just didn't exist.
At least I know it wasn't in my being.
But after we broke up and I moved south,
I met a girl who was a Christian,
and she told me about Jesus Christ,
and how important it was that I receive him into my life.
Then I looked into it.
In 1979, I accepted him as my Lord and Savior,
and the moment I did, my spiritual eyes were opened.
I'd like to ask you to look into it, too.
It's most important.
I better go.
- Tell your parents I said hello.
- Thanks for talking with me.
Of all the things you ever made me,
did I ever tell you what my favorite was?
- No.
- It was that drawing of the sun,
and the clouds and the rainbow.
You remember that?
- Yes.
- Do you remember what it said?
What did it say?
- "Me and you, us, forever."
- It's too bad it didn't happen.
[melancholy orchestral music]
Goodbye, Mrs. Simmons.
[melancholy orchestral music continues]
[door creaks]
[car starts]
[melancholy orchestral music]
[door knocking]
Hey.
- Hey.
- I owe you an apology.
The way I ended that phone call today was just wrong.
I'm sorry.
- No, it's okay.
- I never meant to treat you like that.
- It's okay.
[peaceful orchestral music]
- I wanna thank you for being there for me
through all of this.
You've been great.
Well, it's late.
Goodnight.
- Dave?
How did it go?
- The way it was supposed to. [chuckles]
See you Tuesday night?
[light orchestral music]
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