谎言有何后果 What is the cost of lies?
并非是我们会把谎言误认为真相 It's not that we'll mistake them for the truth.
真正危险的是 我们听多了谎言 The real danger is that if we hear enough lies,
便不再能分辨出真相 then we no longer recognize the truth at all.
那时我们能做什么 What can we do then?
除了放弃对真理的信仰 满足于谎言堆砌的故事 What else is left but to abandon even the hope of truth
我们还剩下什么 and content ourselves instead with stories?
这些故事里 谁是英雄不重要 In these stories, it doesn't matter who the heroes are.
我们想知道的只是 是谁的错 All we want to know is: who is to blame?
这个故事里 错在阿纳托利·迪亚特洛夫 In this story, it was Anatoly Dyatlov.
他是最应该担责的人 He was the best choice.
一个傲慢又讨人厌的男人 An arrogant, unpleasant man,
他当晚出现在控制室 发出指令... he ran the room that night, he gave the orders...
没有朋友在旁 and no friends.
或者说 至少没有重要的朋友 Or, at least, not important ones.
如今 迪亚特洛夫的未来十年 And now Dyatlov will spend the next ten years
都要在监狱劳教所度过 in a prison labor camp.
当然 这个判决非常不公 Of course, that sentence is doubly unfair.
有许多比他罪孽更深重的罪犯 There were far greater criminals than him at work.
迪亚特洛夫的行为 And as for what Dyatlov did do,
不足以让他入狱 the man doesn't deserve prison.
他应该被就地正法 He deserves death.
可是反过来说 判刑十年对"严重渎职"来说 But instead, ten years for "criminal mismanagement."
意味着什么 What does that mean?
没人能回答 也不重要了 No one knows. It doesn't matter.
重要的是 对人们来说 What does matter is that, to them,
正义被伸张 justice was done.
因为对人们来说 Because, you see, to them
公正等同于理智 a just world is a sane world.
切尔诺贝利事件无理智可言 There was nothing sane about Chernobyl.
在那发生的事 以及后来发生的事 What happened there, what happened after,
甚至我们做的那些好事 一切... even the good we did, all of it...
一切的一切... 都尤为疯狂 all of it... madness.
我已经告诉你们我知道的一切 Well, I've given you everything I know.
当然 他们会否认 They'll deny it, of course.
他们一向如此 They always do.
我知道你会尽力而为 I know you'll try your best.
卢米拉 Lyudmilla?
迪亚特洛夫同志 Comrade Dyatlov!
迪亚特洛夫同志 迪亚特洛夫同志 Comrade Dyatlov! Comrade Dyatlov!
刚才发生了什么 What just happened?
我不知道 I don't know.
涡轮舱着火了 There's a fire in the turbine hall.
涡轮舱 The turbine hall.
控制系统箱 氢 The control system tank. Hydrogen.
你和托普顿诺夫 你们两个蠢货弄坏了控制箱 You and Toptunov, you morons blew the tank!
-不 不是... -这是个突发事件 - No, that's not... - This is an emergency.
大家都保持冷静 我们首先要做的是... Everyone stay calm. Our first priority is...
-爆炸了 -我们知道 - It's exploded! - We know.
阿基莫夫 反应堆堆芯冷却了吗 Akimov, are we cooling the reactor core?
我们关闭了 但控制棒还在激活状态 We shut it down, but the control rods are still active.
控制棒没全部插进去 我把扳手扳下来了 They're not all the way in, I disengaged the clutch.
尝试从备用控制台断开服务器 Try and disconnect the servos from the standby console.
你们两个 去启动备用水泵 You two, get the backup pumps running.
我们要把冷却水输送到反应堆堆芯 We need water moving through the core.
-这是目前最重要的 -反应堆堆芯不存在了 - That is all that matters. - There is no core.
它已经爆炸了 反应堆堆芯爆炸了 It exploded, the core exploded.
他吓坏了 把他带走 He's in shock. Get him out of here.
反应堆盖炸开了 The lid is off!
烟囱在燃烧 我亲眼看见的 The stack is burning. I saw it.
你神志不清了 石墨核反应堆芯是不会爆炸的 You're confused. RBMK reactor cores don't explode.
-阿基莫夫... -萨莎 - Akimov... - Sasha.
别担心 我们的操作没问题 Don't worry, we did everything right.
有... 有怪事发生了 Something... something strange has happened.
-你闻到金属的味道了吗 -阿基莫夫 - Do you taste metal? - Akimov!
帕勒沃斯谢科同志 你说的根本不可能 Comrade Perevozschenko, what you're saying is physically impossible.
反应堆芯不会爆炸的 只能是控制箱爆炸 The core can't explode. It has to be the tank.
我们在浪费时间 我们走 We're wasting time. Let's go.
把氢从发动机抽出来 把冷却水灌入反应堆芯 Get the hydrogen out of the generators and pump water into the core.
-那起火的地方怎么办 -呼叫消防队 - What about the fire? - Call the fire brigade.
你今晚不待命 You're not on call tonight.
他们把所有人都叫去了 军队和民兵 They're bringing everybody in, military and civil.
普里皮亚季 玻列斯科 基夫 Pripyat, Polesskoe, Kiev.
这是个大事故 This is a big one.
看起来不太正常 这个颜色 But it doesn't look right, the color.
普拉维克认为那是强光灯什么的 Pravik says he thinks they're shining floodlights or something.
如果是化学品会怎么样 And what if there are chemicals?
化学品 Chemicals?
问题在屋顶上 The problem's the roof.
上面铺满了焦油 所以要烧整晚 It's covered in tar, so it's gonna burn all night,
还有味道会很难闻 就这样 and it'll stink like hell. That's it.
这就是最坏的情况 That's the worst of it.
回去睡觉吧 Go back to bed.
-是开战了吗 -放射量测定器在哪 - Is it war? - Where's the dosimeter?
在这... 拿着 Here... Here.
是有人投炸弹吗 Are they bombing?
这该死的是怎么回事 达到了3.6伦琴 What the fuck is this? It's 3.6 roentgen.
爆表了 更好的那个锁在保险箱里 That's as high as it goes. The good one's locked in a safe.
我没钥匙 I don't have a key.
瓦莱拉... 你的脸 Valera... your face.
快起来 Come on.
我要去找泵房的霍登查克 I'm going to find Khodemchuk in the pump room.
你... 待在这 You... here.
去找沙西诺克 他在604房 快去 Get Shashenok. He's in 604. Go.
我们要疏散所有人 We need to get everyone out!
该死 Shit.
嘿 我们要去反应舱 Hey! We need to get to the reactor hall.
-电梯坏了 -爬两层楼再穿过去 - The lift's destroyed. - Up two flights and across.
-好的 -你们去那做什么 - Right. - Why are you going there?
你们看到霍登查克了吗 Have you seen Khodemchuk?
-没有 维克托在哪 -还在泵房里 - No. Where's Viktor? - Still in the pump room.
待在这 我会回来的 Stay here. I'll come back.
维克托 Viktor!
维克托 Viktor.
维克托 我要带你离开这 Viktor. I'm gonna get you out of here.
能站起来吗啊 Can you stand?
霍登查克... 在哪 Khodemchuk... Where?
去找霍登查克 Get Khodemchuk.
我从其他的面板拔出了控制棒 I dropped the control rods from the other panel.
-它们还是激活状态 -什么 - They're still up. - What?
仍有三分之一插在里面 我不知道原因 They're still only a third of the way in, I don't know why.
我已经派了受训的人去反应舱手动取出控制棒 I already sent the trainees down to the reactor hall to lower them by hand.
-冷却泵那边怎么样 -我联系不上霍登查克 - What about the pumps? - I can't get through to Khodemchuk.
-电话一直断线 -去他妈的电话 去他妈的霍姆查克 - The lines are down. - Fuck the phones and fuck Khodemchuk.
-水泵现在开着吗 -斯托利亚丘克 - Are the pumps on or not? - Stolyarchuk?
我的控制板没用了 My control panel's not working.
我给电工打了电话 I tried calling for the electricians.
我不管什么狗屁控制板怎样 I don't give a shit about the panel!
堆芯现在需要水 I need water in my reactor core!
去把水泵都打开 Get down there and make sure those pumps are on.
现在就去 Now!
-测量仪现在数字多少 -每小时3.6伦琴 但测量表... - What does the dosimeter say? - 3.6 roentgen, but that's as high as the meter...
3.6... 不太妙 也没多糟 3.6... not great, not terrible.
我们什么都没做错 We did everything right.
你 把钩子连起来 You, connect those hooks!
水泵打开 Get the pumps going!
快 在这 Yeah, over here!
我们从底下往上灭火 快点 We're working bottom to top. Go in fast.
瓦西里... Vasily...
-看 瓦西里 这是什么 -我不知道 米沙 - Hey, Vasily, what's this? - I don't know, Misha.
别拿着了 把钩子扣起来 快来 Don't fuck around with it. Hook these up, come on.
你嘴里有金属的味道吗 Do you taste metal?
-有 怎么回事 -我不知道 - Yeah, what is that? - I don't know.
阀门打开 米沙 阀门打开 快 The valves, Misha! The valves, let's go!
阀门 快 The valves! Come on!
你们要干什么 What do you need?
我们要进反应堆大厅 We need to get into the reactor hall
拔掉控制棒 但门卡住了 to lower the control rods, but the door is jammed.
我觉得控制棒拔出来了 I don't think there are control rods.
也没有堆芯了 I don't think there's a core.
不 你... 是你弄错了 No, you're... You're mistaken.
阿基莫夫说了 Akimov said.
走吧 Let's go.
不 No!
伊格纳坚科 拿上他的水管 Ignatenko, get on his hose!
没事 深呼吸 It's all right. Breathe.
米沙 Misha.
没事的 没事的 放松点 米沙 All right, all right. Easy, Misha.
你们真要进去 Are you sure?
阿基莫夫... Akimov...
让开 Move.
快点 进去 Come on, go!
快走 Let's go!
快 Let's go!
薇德米拉 要跟我们一起吗 WoLyudmilla! Do you want to come with us?
一起去哪 Come where?
我们要去铁道桥 这样看得更清楚 We're going to the railroad bridge to get a better look.
警报这么响谁还睡得着 It's not like anyone can sleep with all the sirens.
我觉得你们不该去 可能很危险 I don't think you should go. It could be dangerous.
什么危险 着火而已 火在那烧 我们人在这 What do you mean dangerous? It's a fire. It's over there, we're over here.
-米哈伊尔 -怎么了 - Mikhail. - What?
抱歉 Sorry.
-瓦西里他... -是的 - Is Vasily...? - Yeah.
他有说情况很糟吗 Did he say it was bad?
没 他说只是屋顶着火了 No. No, he said it was just the roof.
他没受过伤 Well, he's never gotten hurt before.
没有消防员受过伤 None of the boys have.
他会没事的 He'll be fine.
好好休息 Get some rest.
控制箱足够大 The tank, it's big enough.
这种爆炸 71号控制箱有一百立方米 This kind of explosion, the control tank on 71, it's 100 cubic meters.
一百一十 One hundred and ten.
一百一十立方米 绝对没问题 Hundred and ten. It could do this, definitely.
没了 It's gone.
我进去看过了 I looked right into it.
我看到堆芯了 I looked into the core.
你拔了控制棒吗 Did you lower the control rods or not?
带他去医务室 Take him to the infirmary.
托托诺夫 扶他下去 Toptunov, take him!
-库加斯泰夫呢 -他死了 - Where's Kudryavstev? - He fell.
-我需要医生 有人吗 -他出现幻觉了 - I need a medic! Anyone! - He's delusional.
-他的脸... -冷凝器管路裂了 - His face... - Ruptured condenser lines.
给水受到了轻微污染 The feedwater is mildly contaminated.
他会没事的 我见过更糟的 He'll be fine. I've seen worse.
还有能连通外面的线路吗 Do we still have a phone line to the outside?
阿基莫夫 Akimov?
给白班组打电话 Call in the day shift.
-但如果... -我们得让水不断流进堆芯 - But if the... - We have to keep water flowing into the core.
我们需要电工 技工 我们缺人手 We need electricians, mechanics, we need bodies.
要我说多少遍 How many times do I have to say it?
我现在去行政楼 I'm going to the Administration Building now
给布鲁哈诺夫和福明打电话 to call Bryukhanov and Fomin.
他们要听到完整报告 They're gonna want a full report.
我不知道能不能帮你控制形势 Now, I don't know if I can make things better for you,
但我肯定能帮倒忙 but I can certainly make them worse.
给白班人员打电话 阿基莫夫同志 Call in the day shift, Comrade Akimov.
是 迪亚特洛夫同志 Yes, Comrade Dyatlov.
你做得很好 You're doing fine.
扶她起来 Raise her up.
那位可能再过一小时就生了 That one, maybe an hour.
这位不到早上生不出来的 This one, not until morning.
-楼下怎样了 医生 -很安静 - How's it downstairs, doctor? - Quiet.
总是这样 Always is.
这时候除了婴儿的哭声不会有别的声音 Nothing at this hour but babies.
有次我连续两天都没睡过 You know, I once went two days without sleep?
有十个孕妇同时临产 Ten women went into labor at the same time.
-我跟你说过这事吗 -说过 - Did I ever tell you that story? - Yes.
这会用不到你了 Well, I won't need you in here for a while.
你愿意的话可以去休息室休息 If you want, get some rest in the break room.
这场火灾到现在都没人被送进医院 They haven't brought anyone in from the fire.
-什么火灾 -核电站 - What fire? - The power plant.
情况肯定很糟 Then it mustn't be too bad.
我们有备碘药吗 Do we stock iodine?
碘药 Iodine.
-你说消毒的碘酒 -不是 药片 医院里有备碘药片吗 - You mean disinfectant? - No, pills. Does the hospital stock iodine pills?
碘药片 我们为什么要有碘药片 Iodine pills? Why would we have iodine pills?
喂 Hello?
还有谁知道 Who else knows this?
你给福明打电话了吗 Have you called Fomin?
你当然得给他打电话 Of course I want you to call him.
我起来 他就得起来 If I'm up, he's up.
不管是什么原因 重要的是 Whatever the cause, the important thing is
你和我都不... that neither you nor I...
我猜安全系统测试又失败了吧 I take it the safety test was a failure?
-事况在控制中 -在控制中 - We have the situation under control. - Under control?
-看上去可不像在控制中 -闭嘴 福明 - It doesn't look like it's under control. - Shut up, Fomin.
我得把情况告知中央委员会 明白吗 I have to tell the Central Committee about this. Do you realize that?
我得打电话向马文报告 I have to get on the phone and tell Maryin,
还可能要上报给他妈的弗洛里舍夫 or God forbid Frolyshev,
说我的核电站着火了 that my power plant is on fire.
不会有人把责任推到你头上的 布留哈诺夫主管 No one can blame you for this, Director Bryukhanov.
当然不会 Of course no one can blame me for this.
怎么可能让我负责 我当时在睡觉 How can I be responsible? I was sleeping.
说说到底怎么了 快点 Tell me what happened, quickly.
我们做的所有测试都是经过总工程师福明批准的 We ran the test exactly as Chief Engineer Fomin approved.
只是值班主任阿基莫夫和操作员托普图诺夫 Unit Shift Chief Akimov and Engineer Toptunov
遇到了一些技术上的问题 encountered technical difficulties leading
导致控制槽中氢含量迅速累积 to an accumulation of hydrogen in the control system tank.
很糟糕 它爆炸了 It regrettably ignited,
核电站损毁 屋顶着火了 damaging the plant, setting the roof on fire.
控制箱容积很大 The tank is quite large.
这是唯一合理的解释 It's the only logical explanation.
当然 当时的代理总工程师迪亚特洛夫 Of course, Deputy Chief Engineer Dyatlov
全程直接监控测试 was directly supervising the test,
他应该知道原因 so he would know best.
充满氢元素的槽 火... A hydrogen tank, fire...
-反应堆呢 -我们目前正在 -Reactor? -We're taking measures to ensure
向反应堆芯注入稳定的水流 a steady flow of water through the core.
-辐射情况呢 -显然 这里毫无影响 What about radiation? -Obviously, down here it's nothing.
但职员告诉我 反应堆那栋楼 But in the reactor building, I'm being told
辐射外泄速率是每小时3.6伦琴 3.6 roentgen per hour.
行吧 情况不太好 但也没太严重 Well, that's not great, but it's not horrifying.
嗯 不严重 Not at all.
关于注水 我觉得 From the feedwater, I assume?-
我们得把轮班时间 We'll have to limit shifts
限制在六小时 另外... to six hours at a time, but otherwise...
让核辐射测量员定期测量 The dosimetrists should be checking regularly.
让他们用保险箱里的高端测量仪 Have them use the good meter from the safe.
行吧 我去给马文打电话了 Right. I'll call Maryin.
去叫醒当地执行委员会的人 Have them wake up the local executive committee.
等待上面的指令 There'll be orders coming down.
-给 -我不要 -Here. -No.
你确定 好吧 You sure? Okay.
-你觉得那颜色是怎么回事 -哦... -What do you think makes the colors? -Oh...
-肯定是燃料 -"肯定是燃料"? -It's the fuel for sure. -"Oh. It's the fuel for sure"?
你懂什么 你就是个在火车站扫地的 What do you know about it? You clean floors at a train station.
我的朋友尤里在核电站工作 My friend, Yuri, works at the power plant.
他说这都是些冷反应 He says it runs cold.
不用汽油 不用火 就是些原子 No gas, no fire. Just atoms.
但是尤里说过 绝对不能靠近燃料 Yuri says the only thing is, you can't walk right up to the fuel.
如果靠近了 就感觉跟伏特加喝吐了一样难受 If you do, a glass of vodka an hour for four hours.
尤里不是个水管工吗 Isn't Yuri a plumber?
是啊 是在核电站工作的水管工 At the nuclear power plant, yeah.
真好看 It is beautiful.
是啊 Yeah.
有烟吗 Do you have a cigarette?
有什么能帮你的吗 Do you need help?
全完了 It's over.
周边只能先这样了 We've done all we can from the perimeter.
我们得到房顶上去 We need to start making our way to the roof.
瓦西里 快去灭火 Vasily! You've gotta put it out.
可以了 同志们 我们要上去了 That's enough, comrades. We're pushing ahead.
走 伙计们 Come on, boys.
瓦西里 那都过去了 挺起腰杆 Vasily, it's just past, straight up.
我们加速前进 All the way up, all the way in.
走吧 Come on!
好 我们在往里走 Yeah. Going in now.
备用设备都怎么样了 What about the auxiliary?
泵也坏了 电气设备也坏了 The pumps are gone, electrical's gone.
-反应堆芯呢 -我没进去看 我不进去 -The core? -I didn't go in there, and I won't.
-我们得面对... -不 我们要把水流注入反应堆芯 I think it's time we faced... -No, we have to get water into the core.
不然反应堆会熔毁 Otherwise, there'll be a meltdown.
我们必须打开阀门 We have to open the valves.
-萨沙... -鲍里斯 你还想怎么样 -Sasha... -What do you want, Boris?
如果反应核真的爆炸了 那我们死定了 上百万人都死定了 If it's true, then we're dead, a million people are dead.
你就想听这些吗 Is that what you need to hear?
我们必须打开阀门 We have to open the valves.
-用手 -用手 -By hand. -By hand?
你知不知道有多少阀门 转开阀门要花多少时间 You know, the number of valves, the amount of time to turn them,
会耗掉好几个小时的 you're talking about hours in there!
-那就帮我们 -帮你干什么 -Then help us. -Help you do what?
把水引到沟里 那已经没东西了 Pump water into a ditch? There's nothing there!
列昂尼德 求你了 Leonid, I'm begging you.
我们走了以后看着仪表盘 Watch the panel while we're gone.
仪表盘坏了 It's not working.
看着就行了 Just watch it.
我大概知道为什么这么早把我们叫起来了 I guess we know why they called us in early.
有人说过发生什么了吗 Is anyone saying what happened?
他们说当时在做涡轮安全测试 They were running the safety test on the turbines,
炸毁了控制箱 blew the control system tank.
我也不知道什么意思 It doesn't make sense to me either.
会不会是蓄意破坏 What about sabotage?
比如炸弹 A bomb?
西特尼科夫 布留哈诺夫让我们用高端的测量仪 Sitnikov! Bryukhanov wants us to use the good dosimeter,
但它在保险箱里 我们找不到钥匙 but it's in the safe, and we can't find the key.
在2号楼里 它不是... It's in Building 2. Hasn't...?
跟我来 Follow me.
欢迎 先生们 Gentlemen, welcome.
请坐 随便坐 Please, find a seat. Plenty of room.
很抱歉这么晚打扰你们 I apologize for the lateness of the hour.
放心 我们这里绝对安全 Rest assured, we are all very safe down here.
这里是专为核辐射造的庇护所 We built this shelter to withstand a nuclear attack
还是美国人造的 这里应该没什么问题 by the Americans, so I think we'll be fine.
大家都知道 发生了一场大事故 As you can see, we have experienced an accident.
一个巨大的控制箱发生故障 A large control tank malfunctioned,
摧毁了4号楼的反应堆 引起大火 damaging reactor Building 4 and starting a fire.
我已经和代理秘书长马文谈过了 Now, I have spoken directly to Deputy Secretary Maryin.
马文又报告了代理主任弗洛里舍夫 Maryin spoke to Deputy Chief Frolyshev,
弗洛里舍夫上报了中央委员会成员多尔吉赫 Frolyshev to Central Committee member Dolgikh,
多尔吉赫又报给了总书记戈尔巴乔夫 and Dolgikh to General Secretary Gorbachev.
那么... Now...
出于中央委员会对普里皮亚季地方执行委员会 Because the Central Committee has the greatest respect
工作的绝对尊重 for the work of the Pripyat Executive Committee,
他们要求我向各位做一个简短的汇报 那么... they have asked me to brief you on matters as they stand, so...
首先 事故... 已经完全控制住了 First, the accident... is well under control.
第二 苏维埃核电工业的工作 And second, because the efforts of the Soviet nuclear industry
属于国家机密 are considered key state secrets, it is important
我们必须确保这起事故 that we ensure that this incident
不会有不良影响 has no adverse consequences.
目前 为了防止人们的恐慌 中央会员会 Now, to prevent a panic, the Central Committee have ordered
向普里皮亚季派遣了一支武警分队 a detachment of military police to Pripyat.
分队有多少人 How large of a detachment?
两到四千 Between two and four thousand men.
到底怎么回事 有多危险 What's really going on here? How dangerous is this?
有轻微辐射 但只限于工厂 There's mild radiation, but it's limited to the plant itself.
-不是 -你说什么 - No, it isn't. - Excuse me?
外面有人呕吐 你也看到了 You saw men outside vomiting.
有人烧伤 You saw men with burns.
核辐射范围比他们说的大 There's more radiation than they're saying.
我们都有妻儿 We have wives here, we have children.
不如撤离 I say we evacuate the town.
先生们... Gentlemen...
拜托 拜托 我妻子也在 Please, please. My wife is here.
要是不安全 我会让她留在 Do you think I would keep her in Pripyat
普里皮亚季吗 if it wasn't safe?
布留哈诺夫 空气都没了 Bryukhanov, the air is glowing.
切伦科夫效应 完全是正常现象 The Cherenkov effect. Completely normal phenomenon.
小型辐射也会有 It can happen with minimal radiation.
不知道你们有多少人知道这是什么地方 I wonder how many of you know the name of this place.
当然 我们都叫这里"切尔诺贝利" We all call it "Chernobyl," of course.
真名是什么 What is its real name?
弗拉基米尔·I·列宁核电站 The Vladimir I. Lenin Nuclear Power Station.
对 Exactly.
弗拉基米尔·I·列宁 Vladimir I. Lenin.
今晚特别为各位骄傲 And how proud he would be of you all tonight.
尤其是你 年轻人 Especially you, young man,
你对人民的热情 and the passion you have for the people.
难道不是这个国家机构的唯一宗旨吗 For is that not the sole purpose of the apparatus of the State?
有时 我们会遗忘 Sometimes, we forget.
有时 我们会被恐惧俘虏 Sometimes, we fall prey to fear.
但我们对苏维埃社会主义的信仰 But our faith in Soviet socialism
终将得到回报 will always be rewarded.
现在 联邦告诉我们 这里的情况不危险 Now, the State tells us the situation here is not dangerous.
永怀信仰 同志们 Have faith, comrades.
联邦教导我们 要避免恐慌 The State tells us it wants to prevent a panic.
仔细聆听 Listen well.
是真的 人们看到警察 就会害怕 It's true, when the people see the police, they will be afraid.
但从我的经验来看 But it is my experience
当有人不从自身利益发问 that when the people ask questions that are not in their own best interest,
他们就应当被告知 they should simply be told
恪守本职 to keep their minds on their labor
联邦的问题交给联邦 and leave matters of the State to the State.
我们封城 We seal off the city.
没人可以走 No one leaves.
切断电话线 And cut the phone lines.
控制谣言 Contain the spread of misinformation.
这样才不会让人民的工作成果 That is how we keep the people
毁于自己的手 from undermining the fruits of their own labor.
是的 同志... Yes, comrades...
我们今晚做的一切 都会获得回报 we will all be rewarded for what we do here tonight.
我们该一鸣惊人了 This is our moment to shine.
谢谢 Thank you.
西特尼科夫同志来见首席工程师 Comrade Sitnikov to see the Chief Engineer.
怎样 Well?
我派放射测试员去反应堆了 I sent my dosimetrists into the reactor building.
从保险箱里取到的放射测试器 The large dosimeter from the safe,
能够承受1000伦琴... the one with the 1,000-roentgen capacity...
数字多大 What was the number?
没有 There was none.
测试器一开就坏了 The meter burned out the second it was turned on.
-很正常 -看吧 莫斯科就会这样 -It's typical. -See? This is what Moscow does.
给我们坏仪器 还问我们为什么出错 Sends us shit equipment, then wonders why things go wrong.
我们从军区消防队 We found another dosimeter
又要来一个放射测试器 from the military fire department.
量程只有200伦琴 但也比小的好 It only goes to 200 roentgen, but it's better than the small ones.
结果呢 And?
爆表了 It maxed out.
200伦琴 Two hundred roentgen.
你玩什么 What game are you playing?
不 我... 我... No, I... I...
我问了他 他测过很多次 他很得力 I asked him, he took multiple measurements, he's my best man.
又是坏测量器 你这是浪费时间 It's another faulty meter. You're wasting our time.
我检查过测量器 I checked the meter against the control.
你什么毛病 给炸毁的控制箱加水了 What's wrong with you? How'd you get that number
怎么还能测到那么大数字 from feedwater leaking from a blown tank?
-测不到才对 -那你在说什么 -You don't. -Then what the fuck are you talking about?
我... I, um...
我在4号楼外面走了一下 I walked around the exterior of Building 4.
我觉得地上碎石里好像有石墨 I think there's graphite on the ground in the rubble.
你没看到 You didn't see graphite.
-我看到了 -你没有 - I did. - You didn't.
你没看到 因为本来就没有 You didn't! Because it's not there!
什么 What?
你是想说堆芯... 什么 Are you suggesting the core... what?
爆炸了 Exploded?
是 Yes.
西特尼科夫 Sitnikov.
你是核工程师 我也是 You're a nuclear engineer, so am I.
解释一下石墨反应堆堆芯的爆炸原因 Please tell me how an RBMK reactor core explodes.
不是熔化 是爆炸 Not a meltdown, an explosion.
我想知道 I'd love to know.
没法解释 I can't.
你是蠢吗 Are you stupid?
-不是 -那为什么不能解释 - No. - Then why can't you?
我... I...
我不知道它为什么会爆炸 I don't see how it could explode.
-但它确实爆炸了 -够了 - But it did. - Enough!
我去屋顶通风口 I'll go up to the vent block roof.
那里可以看到4号反应堆 From there you can look right down into reactor Building 4.
我会亲眼... 看看 I'll see it with my own... my own eyes.
对不起 I apologize.
卫兵 卫兵 Guards! Guards!
送去医生那 或者去医院 Get him to the medic or the hospital! Whatever he needs!
是给水系统 整晚都在附近 It's the feedwater. Been around it all night.
你去 You go then.
什么 What?
-去屋顶通风口 回来报告 -不 -Go to the vent block roof and report back what you see. -No.
-不 我不去 -你得去 - No, I won't do that. - Of course you will.
没事的 相信我 You'll be fine. You'll see.
来吧 Come on.
好 Okay.
开始吧 Let's begin.
雷奥尼 Leonid.
拧到不能再拧 It's all the way, okay?
完全打开 All the way open.
对不起 I'm sorry.
不要道歉 There's nothing to be sorry for.
不是我们的错 I told you, we did nothing wrong.
但的确是我们的错 But we did.
喂 Hello?
-瓦莱利·雷加索夫 -是我 - Valery Legasov? - Yes.
是库尔恰托夫原子能研究所常务副局长 You are the Legasov who is the First Deputy Director
的那个雷加索夫吗 of the Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy?
-是我 你是... -鲍里斯·雪尔比纳 - I am. Who am I...? - This is Boris Shcherbina,
部长理事会副主席 Deputy Chairman of the Council of Ministers
燃能局局长 and head of the Bureau for Fuel and Energy.
切尔诺贝利核电站发生了一起意外 There's been an accident at the Chernobyl Nuclear Power Plant.
有多严重 How bad is it?
不用慌 火灾而已 No. No need to panic. There was a fire.
基本被扑灭了 系统控制箱爆炸了 It's mostly put out. The system control tank exploded.
系统控制箱 内部呢 Control system tank. And the core?
我们已经让他们不停喷水了 We've ordered them to continuously pump water.
好 我知道了 有污染迹象吗 Yes, I see. Any contamination?
没有污染 工厂经理布留哈诺夫报告 It's mild. The plant manager, Bryukhanov, is reporting
每小时辐射3.6伦琴 3.6 roentgen per hour.
这还挺严重的 你得疏散... That's actually significant. You should evacuate the sur...
你是石墨反应堆领域的专家 对吧 You're an expert on RBMK reactors, correct?
-是的 我从... -秘书长葛柏奇夫任命了一个委员会 - Yes, I've studied... -General Secretary Gorbachev has appointed a committee
负责处理这次事故 你在名单里 to manage the accident. You're on it.
下午两点召开会议 We'll convene at two this afternoon.
那就晚了 原谅我 你不觉得 That late? Forgive me, but don't you think
这么严重的辐射会... given the amount of radiation that it would be...
雷加索夫 你要在会议上回答 Legasov, you're on this committee to answer direct questions
石墨反应堆的运行问题 about the function of an RBMK reactor
如果他们提起的话 其他的不用担心 if they should happen to arise. Nothing else.
尤其别提政策 懂了吗 Certainly not policy. Do you understand?
懂了 我不是... Yes, of course. I didn't mean to...
很高兴能带来 I'm pleased to report that
切尔诺贝利的情况已经稳定的消息 the situation in Chernobyl is stable.
我听说辐射程度 In terms of radiation,
相当于胸透 I'm told it's the equivalent of a chest X-ray.
不是的 No!
火势加剧的辐射量 The fire is giving off nearly twice the radiation
接近广岛原子弹的两倍 released by the bomb in Hiroshima.
这会燃烧扩散有毒物质 It will burn and spread its poison
直到整片大陆变成不毛之地 until the entire continent is dead.
告诉我们的士兵 Tell our soldiers,
"不仅动作要快 "You will need to move quickly,
还要小心 and you will need to move carefully.
这是你们生命中最重要的90秒 These are the most important 90 seconds of your lives.
祝你们健康长寿" I wish you good health and long life."
我效命于苏联 I serve the Soviet Union.
联邦的官方说法是 The official position of the state
这是场全球化的核灾难 is that a global nuclear catastrophe
这不可能发生在苏联 is not possible in the Soviet Union.
谎言的代价是什么 What is the cost of lies?
我们做的最重要的决定之一 One of the big choices we had to make was
是我们的英雄 how to deal with the fact that our hero
最终选择了自杀 ultimately ends up taking his own life.
我们意识到从一开始我们就应该呈现出来 We felt from the very start that we should begin with it.
观众立刻就会清楚谎言的代价 Right away, you know what the cost of it was.
这同时向你们传达了 That also signals to you
这和你知道的故事并不相同 as to that isn't what the story is about.
切尔诺贝利事件已足够令人震惊 The story of Chernobyl is shocking enough.
我们不想从第一集开始铺垫 We didn't feel like we should be building up to that moment
然后在最后一集震惊观众 and then shocking people in the final episode.
我们希望他们从一开始就知道 We wanted them to know right up front.
这一切会发生 This is what happens.
这个人会死 This man is going to die,
这个核反应堆会爆炸 and this nuclear reactor is exploding.
这并不是真正有趣的地方 That, in a sense, isn't the interesting part.
有趣的是发生的原因 以及现在该怎么办 The interesting part is why, and what now?
这一整集总共发生了五六个小时 That whole episode takes place over five, six hours
在事故之后 immediately after the accident.
你要和消防员呆一整晚 You're spending one night with the firefighters
而与他们对抗的凶猛野兽 and this massive, massive beast that they're wrestling with,
被辐射和烈火击打 getting pummeled by radiation and fire
在核电站前死去 and dying in front of the power plant.
放射性污染的狡猾之处 How insidious the idea of radioactive contamination was
在于你看不见 也感觉不到 because you can't see it, and you can't feel it.
但它是确实存在的威胁 There's an existential threat to them.
我为了这部作品所做的研究很恐怖 The research I did for this production was horrible.
最可怕的死法 Possibly the most gruesome way to die
就是严重的辐射中毒 is by severe radiation poisoning.
身体融化 从里 The body melts from the inside out
到外 and the outside in.
那场火灾的另一端 On the other side of that fire,
是一个不愿接受事实的国家 you have the state refusing to accept what happened
完全掩盖事实 and suppressing the truth completely.
他们的本能反应是 "苏联式" 的 Their first instinct was the most Soviet instinct.
保持缄默 Tell no one.
关闭通信 Cut the phone lines.
以及散布错误信息 Contain the spread of misinformation.
这个人物代表了一种 That character represent a certain philosophy
能支撑度过悲剧当晚的哲学 that was being brought to bear that night,
一种能追溯到 a philosophy that goes all the way back
俄国革命的哲学 我希望有一个人物 to the Russian Revolution. I wanted somebody
能代表真正的 who represented that true belief
乌托邦的信徒 in a dream of a utopia that
对这种不可能实现的理想 never was going to be and never was,
依旧执着 but who was still clinging to it.
在惊恐时刻 人们选择闭上双眼 In moments of terror, people turn to their delusions,
在那时 你见证了妄想的胜利 and in that moment, you see the triumph of delusion.
你可以接受信息 You can contain information.
但不能接受核同位素 You can't contain nuclear isotopes.
真相不再可以... The truth was no longer...
被藏起来 something that could be hidden away.
最让我着迷的不是切尔诺贝利爆炸 What's fascinating to me is not that Chernobyl exploded.
而是谎言的代价 It's the cost of lies.
当人们选择撒谎 每个人都参与到 When people choose to lie, and when everyone engages
一个维护谎言的被动阴谋中时 in a very passive conspiracy to promote the lie,
我们可以逃避很久 we can get away with it for a very long time.
但真相不在乎这些 But the truth just doesn't care.
它会找上门来 And it will get you.
我是彼得·萨加 Hi, it's Peter Sagal.
我主持了一档特殊的播客节目 I'm hosting a very different podcast.
围绕电视剧切尔诺贝利 It is about the extraordinary series Chernobyl.
现在订阅 集集精彩 You can subscribe now so you don't miss an episode.
相信我 它值得讨论 Believe me, you will want to talk about this TV show.