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翻譯 滾成一個裘花 馬丁馬丁回音山
翻譯 Margaery 辰星曉Reginamoon
校對 杏仁斯嘉麗
時間軸 DA 紫夏
后期 武漢加油！中國加油！
總監 杏仁斯嘉麗
這些都是愛扭曲的樣子 They're all distortions of love.
歇斯底里是其中一種 Hysteria of one sort or another.
圣父就是這樣定義它們的 That's how the Holy Father defined them.
我們認識嗎 Do we know each other?
你是 You are...
索菲婭·杜布瓦 Sofia Dubois,
湯馬西·阿特布魯克的妻子 人人都認識你 Tomas Altbruck's wife. Everybody knows you.
而我是 And I am...
利奧波德·埃塞斯 Leopold Essence.
一位無名小卒 Whom no one knows.
你剛才說什么 What were you saying just now?
我剛才說 跟隨心中之愛 Follow the love, I was saying.
你將會找到失敗 That's where you will find failure.
抱歉 但你是誰 Excuse me, but who are you?
我是這世界上第二智慧之人 I am the second most intelligent man in the world.
既然我們在討論這個話題 While we are on that subject,
我們能將 is it possible to call...
湯馬西·阿特布魯克 Tomas Altbruck...
稱為一個"人"嗎 a "Man"?
跟隨心中所愛 索菲婭 Follow the love, Sofia.
新教宗 第六集
你更喜歡誰 Whom did you prefer?
庇護十三世還是方濟各二世 Pius XIII or Francis II?
我更了解庇護十三世 I knew Pius XIII better.
那你選庇護十三世了 為什么 So Pius XIII, then. Why?
-因為他相信我 -我也一樣 - Because he believed in me. - I believe in you, too.
但你會相信我嗎 But will you believe in me?
我會把虧欠你的給法比亞諾 I'll give what's owed to you to Fabiano.
不 直接給我 No. You will give it to me.
法比亞諾已經不存在了 對你我而言 Fabiano no longer exists. For me or for you.
我來決定金額 And I will decide the amount.
每次一萬五 15000 a visit.
這是應該的 As it should be.
你來之前 阿塔納西奧會叫一整晚 Before you arrived, Attanasio would scream all night.
二十年來這房子里沒人能睡個好覺 For 20 years, no one in this house got any sleep.
但現在他熟睡如嬰兒 But now he sleeps like a baby.
多虧了你 Thanks to you.
你呢 埃斯特 你好嗎 And you, Ester, how are you?
你和阿塔納西奧一樣平靜下來了嗎 Are you calm, like Attanasio?
或像大海般波濤洶涌 Or stormy, like the sea?
洶涌 Stormy.
因為 你看到危險了嗎 Because... you see the danger?
-什么危險 -愉悅 - What danger? - Pleasure.
一種你從未體驗 A pleasure you didn't experience before,
從未渴求 didn't long for,
甚至不知其存在的愉悅 didn't even know existed.
一種意料之外的愉悅正在滲透你 An unexpected pleasure is seeping into you,
一種你沒有考慮過的感受 a sensation you hadn't reckoned with.
我知道我在說什么 埃斯特 I know what I'm talking about, Ester.
我知道 I know.
為母者可以... A mother is capable of...
做一切來... anything in order to...
我得和你談談某件事 I have to talk to you about something,
但我不知道怎么開口 but I don't know how.
阿塔納西奧不是唯一一個 Attanasio is not the only one.
我不明白 I don't understand.
阿塔納西奧不是唯一一個 Attanasio is not the only one
我也不是唯一一個受苦的母親 and I am not the only mother who suffers.
世上有千萬個我們 埃斯特 There are lots of us, Ester.
有許多富足卻不快樂的父母 Lots of well-off, unhappy parents
他們的孩子沒人想多看一眼 with children no one wants to look at,
因為自然并未賜福于他們 because nature has turned against them.
他們都在等著你 埃斯特 They are all waiting for you, Ester.
你有一種天賦 You have a gift,
而你終于開始認識到這種天賦了 which you are finally beginning to recognize.
-什么天賦 -人類的溫暖 - What gift? - The gift of human warmth.
你是位圣人 埃斯特 You're a saint, Ester!
我只是娼妓 I am a whore.
你知道圣人和娼妓間的區別 Do you know what the difference is
是什么嗎 between a whore and a saint?
沒有區別 None.
早安
請見諒 大人 現在很晚了 Forgive me, Eminence. It's late.
我打擾到你了嗎 Have I disturbed you?
你發現什么關于 What have you discovered
斯巴拉提 圭恰迪尼和你丈夫的事了 about Spalletta, Guicciardini, and your husband?
他們都經常與同一位 All three of them frequent
未成年少女來往 而且是同時 the same under-age girl. At the same time.
我明白了 I see.
你看上去沒有很困擾的樣子 You don't seem particularly perturbed.
斯巴拉提的事我已經知道了 I knew about Spalletta already.
圭恰迪尼和你丈夫都沒有教職 Guicciardini and your husband are laymen.
我對他們沒有那么在意 They concern me only up to a certain point.
你要說的就是這些嗎 That's all you have to say?
一百二十九次呼吸 然后一聲嘆息 129 breaths. Then a sigh.
-所以他們還在廣播嗎 -對 - So they are still broadcasting? - Yes.
這只是新情況其一 還有一件事 It's not the only new developments. There is another.
某個行事方式 A certain threesome
明顯不透明的三人組 who are operating in a decidedly opaque manner.
不僅在金錢方面 Both at the financial level,
我說的是我們自己的金融機構 I am referring to various unscrupulous operations
做出的各種虛假無底線的操作 carried out by our own financial organization,
還有在私人層面上 and at the private level.
更準確地說 是在道德層面上 The moral level, to be precise.
您想讓我詳細說明一下嗎 Would you like me to elaborate?
我痛恨政治 同樣痛恨流言 I detest politics and gossip in equal measure,
但在我們的這個小小國度 but in this little state of ours,
連教宗都無法 it seems impossible for even the pope
避免事情落得空前下流 to avoid matters from unprecedented vulgarity.
我很高興能在這里幫您 I am delighted to be here and help you.
那就方便了 大人 因為只有你能幫我 That is convenient, Eminence, for only you can help me.
因為我們在說的就是你 As it's you we're talking about.
我們得重新考慮一些事 We need to rethink things.
有些行為一旦公開 就會暴露我 Certain behaviors, if made public, would expose me,
人們就會說若望·保祿三世放任這種行為 and people would say John Paul III does nothing.
請容我解釋 圣父 Allow me to explain, Holy Father.
阿特布魯克和我是在取悅圭恰迪尼 Altbruck and I are making Guicciardini happy.
作為交換 In exchange,
他勸阻了總統采用極端措施 he has dissuaded the prime minister from taking lethal measures.
廢除《千分之八法》并非他們唯一的考慮 Repealing the eight per thousand wasn't the only item on the table.
他們甚至在考慮 They were even considering
對教會資產征收稅款 introducing a tax on the Church properties,
追溯生效 effective retroactively.
我提醒一下 Let me remind you that
我們的資產從沒納過稅 we have never paid taxes on our properties.
您知道那對于教會的經濟 Do you have any idea what that would mean
會有多大的影響嗎 in economic terms for the Church?
一場災難 A catastrophe.
教會不想那樣 The Church doesn't want that,
很明顯 nor, obviously,
那些直接牽扯其中的人也不想 do those directly involved.
只有兩個人 There are only two people
會泄露圭恰迪尼 阿特布魯克 who could divulge the agreement
和我之間的協議 between Guicciardini, Altbruck and me.
一個是你 One is you,
但你我 but you and I have...
已經確認過我們的情分 already affirmed our mutual affection,
并不會想威脅對方 rather than any inclination to blackmail.
另一個就是國務樞機卿 The other is the Secretary of State
就他而言 who, however,
他總是傾向于 has always tended
完完全全的自主權 toward complete and total autonomy,
甚至教宗也管不了他 even in regard to the pope,
他追求的那些神秘的利益 and who purses mysterious interests
除了他自己沒人知道 that are completely unknown to everyone but himself.
所以國務樞機卿那邊 So, regarding the Secretary of State,
情況要無常得多 the situation is far more volatile,
而您 教宗陛下 and you, Your Holiness,
只有您才能化解 are the only one who can diffuse it.
湯馬西·阿特布魯克和斯巴拉提在洗錢 Tomas Altbruck and Spalletta are laundering money.
他們通過離岸公司付錢給圭恰迪尼 They're paying Guicciardini through offshore companies,
從我們的金融結構里抽取資金 withdrawing funds from our financial structure.
對于這些操作 我不做道德評判 I make no moral judgment regarding these operations.
對我來說這就只是權宜之計 For me it's merely a question of expediency.
遲早哪個雄心勃勃的記者 Sooner or later some enterprising journalist
會來探查我們的事 will stick his nose in our business
然后揭露一切 and uncover everything.
您就會被扯進接踵而至的丑聞 And you will be dragged in to the ensuing scandal.
我對丑聞無感 對名聲也一樣 Scandal leaves me indifferent, as does reputation.
那些是小資產階級關心的事 Those are concerns for the petite bourgeoisie.
我并不屬于那個階級 A class which I do not belong.
我則被認作合適的人選 I was thought proper form,
打磨至完美 成為"神秘"之人 polished to perfection, becomes "mystical".
隨您的便 教宗陛下 As you like, Your Holiness.
你要知道 大人 You know, Eminence,
我這么說是為了你好 I am saying that for your own good,
或許你是時候退讓一步了 perhaps it's time you took the step back.
我不明白 您什么意思 I don't understand. What do you mean?
拜托 跟你明說會讓我很痛苦 Please, it will pain me to spell it out for you.
你很清楚我的意思 You understand perfectly well what I mean.
我是這個教會 I am the longest-serving
在位時間最長的國務樞機卿 Secretary of State in the history of the Church.
肯定是有理由的 There must be a reason!
我相信理由有很多 There are hundreds, I am sure.
但是既然你已經有了 But since you already hold the record
侍奉教宗時間上的紀錄 for service to the papacy,
何不把你煞費苦心 why not use the network
歷時多年建造 you have painstakingly constructed over decades
飽含豐富知識與經驗的關系網絡 in the vast wealth of knowledge and experience you have acquired,
傳給下一代人 as a bequest to a new generation?
由新任國務樞機卿為首 比如 Represented by a new Secretary of State, say...
阿森特紅衣主教那樣的 someone like Cardinal Assente.
您是在詢問還是命令我 Are you asking or ordering me?
我不喜歡被迫選擇 I do not like to have to choose
我也不喜歡下命令 and I do not like giving orders.
我喜歡 我很喜歡下命令 I do. I adore giving orders.
這是我的一生 It's my whole life.
安排采訪吧 我準備好了 Schedule the interview. I'm ready.
-我正準備去見你 -你怎么樣 - I was on my way to see you. - How are you?
很緊張 埃塞斯在我車里放了只蟑螂 Tense. Essence planted a cockroach in my car.
你覺得他是想威脅我嗎 大人 Do you think he was trying to intimidate me, Eminence?
是非常隱晦的威脅 但的確是 A rather crude form of intimidation, but yes.
他們想保證你不會說出去 They want to make sure you don't talk.
-我該怎么做 -什么都別說 - What am I supposed to do? - Don't talk.
怎么了 你看起來不太一樣 毫無生氣 What's wrong? You look different... You look lifeless.
那不勒斯隊輸了 Napoli lost.
-你想見我嗎 大人 -對 很緊急 - You wanted to see me, Eminence? - Yes, rather urgently.
我要給你調任 立刻生效 I am transferring you. Effective immediately.
-你是要提拔我嗎 -不僅如此 - You're promoting me? - Even better!
-我要讓你作傳教士 -我要去哪里 - I'm making you a missionary. - Where am I going?
去喀布爾 To Kabul.
喀布爾 Kabul?
但是喀布爾沒有天主教徒 But there are no Catholics in Kabul!
正是 傳教士要做什么 開創先河 Exactly! What does a missionary do? He begins.
你為什么要這樣 Why are you doing this?
在喀布爾 In Kabul there are no pedophile priests
沒有需要掩蓋戀童罪惡的神父 whose sins need to be covered.
再見 赫爾南德斯 Goodbye Hernandez!
我要跟你們談談 I have to talk to you.
我專斷地違背了你們所有的請求 Imperiously, and in violation of all your demands,
替你們當中的一些人做出了決定 I have made some decisions for a number of you.
瑪拉妮修女 Sister Melanie,
你會得到一周兩次的 you will receive psychological assistance
免費心理援助 twice a week, free of charge.
為什么 這太無禮了 Why? This is outrageous.
因為瑪拉妮修女有盜竊癖 Because Sister Melanie is a kleptomaniac.
而伊萬卡修女 Sister Ivanka, on the other hand,
將交由蘇麗修女照顧 will be transferred to Sister Suree's care.
-她要在教宗身邊工作 -為什么 - She will work for the pope. - But why?
因為她不斷遭受到三位修女性騷擾 Because she is continually mistreated and sexually harassed
我就不點名字了 by three sisters who shall remain nameless.
幾個世紀以來 Discretion, let it be remembered through the centuries,
謹慎一直是國務卿最重要的 has always been one of the greatest attributes
品德之一 of the Secretary of State.
院長嬤嬤 你一直沒注意到伊萬卡修女的苦楚 Reverend Mother, you never noticed Sister Ivanka's suffering,
但我一點也不責備你 but I do not reproach you in the least.
你沒有注意到是因為 You didn't notice it because you are preoccupied
你為自己的乳房底部憂心忡忡 by something at the base of your breast.
你整日想的都是這個 It is all you think about,
但是你沒有讓自己直面問題 but you cannot bring yourself to confront the issue.
所以我來替你面對 So, I decided to confront it for you.
給你掛了周二上午九點 You have an appointment
杰梅利醫院的號 at the Gemelli Hospital on Tuesday morning at 9:00.
維拉爾醫生 羅馬最好的腫瘤醫生 With Doctor Vilar. One of the best oncologists in Rome.
-怎么樣 -還行 - How is it going? - Fine.
但是我很害怕 But I'm scared.
別怕 我也替你考慮了 Don't be. I have thought about you, too.
我假裝各位向我提出了一個請求 I pretended that you sisters presented me with a request,
要我準許在修院里收養孤兒 to be allowed to receive orphans inside the convent.
我同意你們的請求 And I have authorized your request.
卡特琳娜的孩子 Caterina's baby will be
就是你們假裝收養的第一個孤兒 the first pretend orphan you will receive.
每隔一段時間 你們都要小心翼翼地 Every now and then, with every precaution,
讓費薩爾在園丁的小棚屋里看看孩子 you will let Faisal see the baby, inside the gardeners' shed.
不能在這里 這里太危險了 Not here. It is too dangerous here.
我們的事情你是怎么知道的 How do you know all these things about us?
我是教會有史以來 Because I am the longest-serving
任職時間最長的國務卿 Secretary of State in the history of the Church,
我這一生都在收集信息 and I have spent my life informing myself.
至于你 莉塞特修女 And now for you, Sister Lisette.
我有話要先對你說 大人 I have something to say to you first, Eminence.
wifi速度慢是你故意而為的 The wi-fi is slow because you slowed it deliberately.
你怕我們的抗議會傳播蔓延 You're afraid that our protest will spread.
我說過你會是一個強大的對手 I told you that you would be a formidable adversary.
什么時候能批準我們面見圣父的要求 At what point is our request to meet with the Holy Father?
沒有可能了 At a dead end.
因為從今天開始 我不再是國務樞機卿了 Because as of today I am no longer the Secretary of State.
我離開這里就會上交辭呈 When I leave here, I will submit my resignation.
會得到批準 所以你們要向新的國務樞機卿 And it will be accepted. So you will have to file a new request,
阿森特紅衣主教重新提出請求了 with the new Secretary of State, Cardinal Assente.
您建議我們怎么做 大人 What do you advise us to do, Eminence?
繼續你們的戰斗 To carry on with your battle,
你們有千千萬萬的理由繼續 you have not one but a thousand reasons to.
謝謝 大人 Thank you, Eminence.
你們知道這些無盡的權利之爭 Do you know what is so awful
有什么可怕的嗎 about these endless battles over rights?
一點詩意都沒有 There's no room left for poetry.
你想給他起什么名字 What are you thinking of naming him?
我們還沒想好 We haven't decided yet.
我可以建議給他起名為安吉洛嗎 像我一樣 May I suggest you name him Angelo? Like me.
-要是女孩呢 -還是安吉洛 男女都能用 - And if it's a girl? - Still Angelo. It's a unisex name.
米莫大人
如果你不介意 我們在這陪您一會
像您一樣 我也喜歡花
今天我給您帶了一朵最漂亮的
-周四見 -不 埃斯特 - See you on Thursday? - No, Ester.
我們的關系就此結束 Our relationship ends here.
什么 What?
為什么 Why?
阿塔納西奧和其他人厭倦了這樣 Attanasio and the others choose they are tired of this.
就連他們也會對例行安排感到乏味 Even they get bored from routine.
阿塔納西奧才不會厭倦我 Attanasio is not tired of me.
你已經不是小女孩了 埃斯特 You're not a girl anymore, Ester.
我們找到了一些要價很低的非洲女性 And we found some African women who cost a lot less
而且比你年輕許多 and are much younger than you.
況且你也要為自己的未來考慮 Besides you need to think about your future.
你以前很窮 我們讓你富了起來 You were poor, we've made you well-off.
現在你有了大房子 還有保姆 Now you have a nice house, a babysitter,
去給自己找個正常的老公 go find yourself a normal husband,
做點別的事吧 do something else.
你以為會怎樣 就這樣一直下去 What do you expect? That this would go on forever?
這不是重點 That's not the point.
那什么是 What is the point then?
重點是 The point is...
我需要阿塔納西奧 is that I need Attanasio.
這正是不可能的 That's exactly what's not going to work.
你什么意思 What are you saying?
可以做愛 不能相愛 Sex yes, love no?
-正是 -我不明白 - Precisely. - I don't understand.
你真是個傻瓜 埃斯特 You're such a fool, Ester.
性沒有任何價值 因為它即生即滅 Sex has no value, because it lives and dies in the present.
而愛卻不會 But love doesn't.
愛很危險 因為它著眼于未來 Love is dangerous, because it looks to the future.
你和阿塔納西奧能有什么樣的未來 What sort of future could have be for you and Attanasio?
每周四晚上我來這里 這就是未來 Every Thursday night, when I come here, that's the future.
你也不用再付我一分錢了 And you wouldn't have to pay another penny,
如果這是問題所在的話 if that's an issue.
不 No!
到此為止了 It ends here.
阿塔納西奧不會回應你的愛 Attanasio doesn't return your love.
我明白了... I see...
只有你能愛阿塔納西奧 是吧 Only you can love Attanasio, right?
正是如此 埃斯特 That's exactly right Ester.
只有我能愛阿塔納西奧 Only I can love Attanasio.
任何意義上的 In every sense.
圣父 我祈求您 Holy Father, I beg you
我懇求您 I implore you, please.
停下我的手 Stop my hand.
需要我把您的盒子拿來嗎 先生 Shall I bring you your box, Sir?
我覺得我不需要它也可以 謝謝你 丹尼 I think that I can manage without it. Thank you, Danny.
你覺得他們會開電視看我嗎 我爸媽 Do you think they will watch me on telly? My parents?
嗯 我覺得會的 Yes, I do.
你在發抖 我也是 You are trembling. So am I.
圣父 謝謝您 Holy Father, thank you.
我的感激之情溢于言表 Words are not enough to express my gratitude.
您能在全球廣播上回答我們的問題 Answering our questions in a worldwide broadcast
于我們而言是一份無可比擬的殊榮 is an unparalleled privilege for us.
而且這是史上頭一次 And this is the first time that such a thing has happened,
教宗答應接受直播采訪 且內容不受限制 a pontiff agreeing to a live, free-ranging interview.
-謝謝 -那我們就開始吧 - Thank you. - Well then, let's get started.
我們已經了解了若望·保祿三世 We have come to know John Paul III.
但我們也想了解約翰·布蘭諾克斯爵士 But we would also like to get to know Sir John Brannox.
圣父 約翰·布蘭諾克斯是誰 Holy Father, just who is John Brannox?
一位曾有幸 或者說依然有幸 A priest who had, or has,
上帝愛他更勝于他愛自己的神父 the good fortune to be more loved by God than he is by himself.
您是在什么地方長大的 And where did you grow up?
我基本上一輩子都待在我家族的莊園里 I spent almost my entire life on our family's estate,
在倫敦郊外 on the outskirts of London.
同住的有我父親 我母親 Together with my father, my mother,
曾經還有我的孿生兄弟 亞當 once upon a time my twin brother, Adam,
以及一千多只黇鹿 and a thousand or so fallow deer.
您的兄弟 亞當... Your brother Adam...
圣父 青年時發生的不測給您留下了創傷 Your youth, Holy Father, was scarred by a sorrowful event.
有一天 你們正在一起滑雪 One day, while you were skiing together,
您的兄弟忽然發病身亡 your brother suddenly took ill and died.
我知道您二位曾經親密無間 I understand that the two of you were very close.
在那次不幸之后您的生活發生了什么樣的變化 How did your life change after that tragic event?
我的哀傷 和所有悲慟一樣 My grief, like all great sorrows,
是無法言說的 cannot be expressed in words.
字典中 The dictionary
沒有足以表達的詞匯 does not contain the adequate words.
我的人生改變了 My life changed,
但更重要的是 我的信仰變了 but more importantly my faith changed.
在亞當去世之前 Before Adam's death,
生活如同一條漫長而平靜的河流 life was a long and quiet river,
我把生活看作是理所應當 taken for granted.
甚至可以說是純凈的 儀式性的 Perhaps pure and ritualistic even.
但轉瞬之間 在亞當去世之后 But almost immediately, after Adam's passing,
一種隱秘而激烈的宗教篤信擊中了我 a secret and scorching religiosity penetrated me,
它不穩定且隱秘 something rocky and hidden.
我將自己與外界隔絕 I closed myself off from the world.
但那種隔絕... But that closure...
開啟了我內心的某種秘密生活 began a sort of hidden life of the heart.
紐曼紅衣主教也許會稱之為 What Cardinal Newman might have referred to
"心的秘密行動" as the "Secret actions of the heart".
而當圣靈給我啟發 And when the Holy Spirit breathed in me
我的人生再次改變 and my life changed again,
我成為了教宗 羅馬的主教 I was made pope and bishop of Rome,
我意識到我的時機已到 I realized that the time had come for me
是時候將我隱秘的虔誠 獻給世界上的 to offer up to the Catholics of the world
天主教徒了 my secret devotion.
變成了一種公開活躍的虔誠 An active devotion, then.
是的 一種... Yes. An...
公開活躍的虔誠 active devotion.
那其中包含了什么 您優先要解決的問題是什么 What does it consist of? And what are your priorities?
什么 Pardon?
那其中包含了什么 您優先要解決的問題是什么 What does it consist of? And what are your priorities?
我優先要解決的問題是邪惡 My priority is evil.
必須要... Evil that...
坦率面對的邪惡 must be look at openly,
不帶虛偽 without hypocrisy,
不加區別 不帶價值評判地面對 without distinctions, without value scales.
邪惡就是邪惡 Evil is evil.
這么說來 如果您不反對的話 In that case, if you have no objection,
我想和您逐個探討 I'd like to explore with you, one at a time,
困擾教會的"邪惡"的方方面面 all the aspects of this "evil" that assails the church.
我相信您會很樂意告訴我們 I'm sure that you'll be happy to tell us
教會打算何以為繼 how the church intends to proceed.
其中一個最為緊要的議題 One of the most urgent themes
就是席卷神父 主教 和紅衣主教的 is the wave of sex abuse scandals
性侵丑聞風波 that has swept over priests, bishops, and cardinals.
我們中斷采訪吧 Let's break off the interview.
你瘋了嗎 這是直播 Are you mad? We're live!
教會要如何阻止這一切 What can the church do to stop all this?
相信我 他撐不住了 Believe me, he's not going to make it.
他當然能撐住 他只是有點緊張 Of course he will, he's just a little bit nervous.
圣父比其他任何人都更清楚如何掌控全場 The Holy Father knows better than anyone how to take the stage.
-你不知道是吧 -知道什么 - You don't get it, do you? - Get what?
他正在戒斷期 該死 He's in withdrawal, damn it!
失陪 Excuse me.
原諒我 圣父 如果我被愛過 Forgive me, blessed Father, if I have been loved.
或我愛過他人 And if I have loved.
原諒我 圣父 因為它給我帶來過歡愉 Forgive me, blessed Father, for it brought me pleasure.