1
00:00:06,487 --> 00:00:09,977
[MUSIC PLAYING]

2
00:00:26,095 --> 00:00:28,125
MATT DUFFER: We're from
Durham, North Carolina.

3
00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,430
Growing up we were
just nerdy kids

4
00:00:30,430 --> 00:00:33,250
playing Dungeons and
Dragons with our friends.

5
00:00:33,250 --> 00:00:34,690
ROSS DUFFER: We
always loved films

6
00:00:34,690 --> 00:00:36,310
and we wanted to do
that for a living,

7
00:00:36,310 --> 00:00:39,170
but we had no idea how
to make that possible.

8
00:00:39,170 --> 00:00:41,650
How do you get from the
suburbs of North Carolina

9
00:00:41,650 --> 00:00:44,050
to where we are now
in Hollywood, making

10
00:00:44,050 --> 00:00:45,280
a show for Netflix?

11
00:01:04,772 --> 00:01:06,232
MATT DUFFER: So
around third grade,

12
00:01:06,230 --> 00:01:09,200
our parents for Christmas
gave us a Hi8 video camera.

13
00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,070
We were really
excited about this.

14
00:01:13,068 --> 00:01:14,858
Starting in the summer
of the fourth grade,

15
00:01:14,860 --> 00:01:16,490
that's kind of when
everything changed.

16
00:01:16,485 --> 00:01:18,395
We made our first
full length movie.

17
00:01:18,390 --> 00:01:19,950
We will fight honorably.

18
00:01:19,950 --> 00:01:23,090
And one more thing,
onward to battle!

19
00:01:26,110 --> 00:01:28,720
ROSS DUFFER: Then when we
moved in to high school,

20
00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,720
we said, is there a way to
make these movies even better?

21
00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,420
So what we would
do is every summer

22
00:01:34,420 --> 00:01:37,210
we would actually start
to write some scripts down

23
00:01:37,210 --> 00:01:39,970
and this was our first
instance of us writing scripts.

24
00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,300
I made it.

25
00:01:44,300 --> 00:01:46,760
MATT DUFFER: And that continued
all the way into college.

26
00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,740
We went to Film School
at Chapman University.

27
00:01:48,740 --> 00:01:51,590
We were still mostly
focused on directing.

28
00:01:51,590 --> 00:01:53,780
We realized at a certain
point that no one

29
00:01:53,780 --> 00:01:56,330
was going to let us
direct anything if we

30
00:01:56,330 --> 00:01:59,090
didn't have a script that we
could attach ourselves to.

31
00:01:59,090 --> 00:02:00,300
Forget about it.

32
00:02:00,295 --> 00:02:02,425
MATT DUFFER: So we took
some screenwriting classes,

33
00:02:02,420 --> 00:02:04,280
we learned the basics
of screenwriting.

34
00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,050
Structure, inciting incident.

35
00:02:06,050 --> 00:02:09,050
We started to learn
some big ideas about how

36
00:02:09,050 --> 00:02:10,080
to write a screenplay.

37
00:02:10,077 --> 00:02:11,657
But father, you're
a man of science.

38
00:02:11,660 --> 00:02:13,510
And a man of reason.

39
00:02:13,513 --> 00:02:15,683
MATT DUFFER: So there was
a big turning point for us

40
00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,370
and that was after
we had struggled

41
00:02:17,372 --> 00:02:18,832
for a while in a
couple of scripts,

42
00:02:18,830 --> 00:02:20,480
we weren't getting
anywhere with them.

43
00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,000
And a lot of this was because
we were focused on what

44
00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,530
we thought the industry wanted.

45
00:02:24,530 --> 00:02:29,090
What was selling in the moment,
what people were excited about.

46
00:02:29,090 --> 00:02:31,550
We just cut out all
the noise and we just

47
00:02:31,550 --> 00:02:34,430
wrote something that was
really personal to us.

48
00:02:34,430 --> 00:02:37,010
The story was called
"Hidden," and it

49
00:02:37,010 --> 00:02:39,290
was about a family that was
hiding in a bomb shelter

50
00:02:39,290 --> 00:02:42,410
from some mysterious
threat above the surface.

51
00:02:42,410 --> 00:02:44,240
And we did something
which we hadn't really

52
00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,550
been doing, which because
of the time crunch,

53
00:02:46,550 --> 00:02:48,740
because of the financial
pressures, we just sat down

54
00:02:48,735 --> 00:02:51,115
and we're like, we better
figure out this story before we

55
00:02:51,110 --> 00:02:52,010
go into writing it.

56
00:02:52,010 --> 00:02:53,270
And we outlined it.

57
00:02:53,270 --> 00:02:56,090
And when we outlined it,
the outline worked and then

58
00:02:56,090 --> 00:02:58,320
we wrote the script
incredibly fast.

59
00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,850
It just fell into place
and "Hidden," was born.

60
00:03:01,850 --> 00:03:04,510
It sold in a bidding
war to Warner Brothers

61
00:03:04,508 --> 00:03:06,048
and we were suddenly
back on our feet

62
00:03:06,050 --> 00:03:07,280
and feeling confident again.

63
00:03:09,813 --> 00:03:11,983
ROSS DUFFER: There are many
ups and downs over that,

64
00:03:11,980 --> 00:03:14,110
but that was a huge hurdle.

65
00:03:14,110 --> 00:03:17,770
We didn't even know how to write
a screenplay to suddenly we

66
00:03:17,770 --> 00:03:20,080
had sold a screenplay
and we had made money

67
00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,630
with just words that we
have written on paper.

68
00:03:22,630 --> 00:03:24,640
That night we went
to get a meal and I

69
00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:26,470
remember it was such
a big moment for us

70
00:03:26,470 --> 00:03:29,200
that we were able to
order soda with our meals,

71
00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,720
because prior to that we
could only afford really

72
00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,010
water with any of our meals.

73
00:03:33,010 --> 00:03:35,980
To me it was Thai iced tea
at the local Thai restaurant,

74
00:03:35,980 --> 00:03:37,450
that we were able to do that.

75
00:03:37,450 --> 00:03:39,310
Like, Thai iced tea, please.

76
00:03:39,310 --> 00:03:41,320
Also I felt a little bit
like sheepish about it,

77
00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,870
but it was like, oh man, this
is a really good Thai iced tea.

78
00:03:44,870 --> 00:03:47,040
It was a huge moment,
we're like OK, this is it.

79
00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:47,810
We've made it.

80
00:03:47,810 --> 00:03:50,380
But the big take away from
us was write something

81
00:03:50,382 --> 00:03:51,592
that you're passionate about.

82
00:03:51,590 --> 00:03:53,540
Write something that you
truly love, not something

83
00:03:53,540 --> 00:03:55,460
that you think other
people are going to love.

84
00:03:55,460 --> 00:03:59,300
And outline, outline, outline,
outline, plan, plan, plan.

85
00:03:59,298 --> 00:04:01,588
But there was a shift in
the industry around the time

86
00:04:01,590 --> 00:04:03,020
and there were a
lot of producers

87
00:04:03,020 --> 00:04:06,020
that kept going, hey, well,
that's an OK movie idea,

88
00:04:06,020 --> 00:04:07,470
but do you have a TV idea?

89
00:04:07,470 --> 00:04:10,820
And so there was really
a move towards television

90
00:04:10,820 --> 00:04:14,420
becoming more cinematic and
that started to get us excited.

91
00:04:14,420 --> 00:04:17,090
And so we started to
go, well, you know what?

92
00:04:17,089 --> 00:04:18,619
Maybe this is a
type of storytelling

93
00:04:18,620 --> 00:04:20,780
that we could get
into and that's

94
00:04:20,779 --> 00:04:24,259
what led us to eventually
develop "Montauk," which

95
00:04:24,260 --> 00:04:26,270
is the pilot script
that would eventually

96
00:04:26,270 --> 00:04:27,620
become "Stranger Things."

97
00:04:27,620 --> 00:04:30,290
MATT DUFFER: It ended
up selling to Netflix,

98
00:04:30,290 --> 00:04:33,890
and that moment, receiving
that call that Netflix was not

99
00:04:33,890 --> 00:04:38,030
only buying our script, but
was greenlighting it to series,

100
00:04:38,030 --> 00:04:41,270
and that they were comfortable
with Ross and I directing it,

101
00:04:41,270 --> 00:04:43,760
was probably the best
moment of my life.

102
00:04:48,470 --> 00:04:53,060
This class is really for anyone
who dreams of telling stories

103
00:04:53,058 --> 00:04:53,598
for a living.

104
00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,570
It's for the person who has 20
scripts in their drawer, none

105
00:04:56,573 --> 00:04:57,363
of which have sold.

106
00:04:57,365 --> 00:05:00,925
It's for the person who has only
written 20 pages of a script

107
00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,850
and hasn't been able to
get past the 20 pages.

108
00:05:02,847 --> 00:05:04,427
Or is just staring
at a blank screen

109
00:05:04,430 --> 00:05:05,810
and they can't
write a single word.

110
00:05:05,810 --> 00:05:08,350
You've got the idea, but you
don't know what to do with it.

111
00:05:08,352 --> 00:05:10,192
It's also for people
who, like us, don't

112
00:05:10,190 --> 00:05:12,320
know a single soul
in Hollywood and want

113
00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,810
to see how this works and
see if this is something

114
00:05:14,810 --> 00:05:18,310
that maybe you could actually
do and you can make a reality.

115
00:05:18,310 --> 00:05:20,060
MATT DUFFER: This class
is also for people

116
00:05:20,060 --> 00:05:21,770
who just love "Stranger
Things," and want

117
00:05:21,768 --> 00:05:24,678
to see how we created the show,
how we built it from an idea

118
00:05:24,678 --> 00:05:25,968
all the way through the script.

119
00:05:25,970 --> 00:05:27,400
To show you how
it works, we're

120
00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,260
going to go into documents
and things we wrote.

121
00:05:30,263 --> 00:05:31,433
Netflix has never seen it.

122
00:05:31,430 --> 00:05:32,730
Our actors have never seen it.

123
00:05:32,730 --> 00:05:34,820
So we're going to be showing
you those top secret "Stranger

124
00:05:34,820 --> 00:05:36,380
Things" documents
for the first time.

125
00:05:36,380 --> 00:05:38,810
ROSS DUFFER: We'll use examples
from "Stranger Things,"

126
00:05:38,810 --> 00:05:42,630
from the pilot all the way
through stuff from season 4.

127
00:05:42,630 --> 00:05:43,430
Bitching, right?

128
00:05:43,430 --> 00:05:45,150
Yeah, yeah, bitching.

129
00:05:45,150 --> 00:05:46,650
MATT DUFFER: So
something else we're

130
00:05:46,650 --> 00:05:48,930
going to do to show you
how this process works is

131
00:05:48,930 --> 00:05:52,880
we're going to create our own
fake Dustin and Steve "Stranger

132
00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:53,880
Things" spin-off series.

133
00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,980
This is imaginary, it's
just for this class,

134
00:05:55,980 --> 00:05:58,500
but we're going to generate
the idea in real time

135
00:05:58,498 --> 00:06:00,538
for you and we're going
to write the opening hook

136
00:06:00,540 --> 00:06:02,790
and under extreme
time constraints,

137
00:06:02,790 --> 00:06:04,990
and hopefully it's
going to be some fun.

138
00:06:04,990 --> 00:06:07,920
This is not a real
thing, Netflix.

139
00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,560
ROSS DUFFER: We love
writing, it is a fun process.

140
00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,590
Yes, it is frustrating at
times, it gets scary at times,

141
00:06:13,590 --> 00:06:14,650
you get stuck.

142
00:06:14,650 --> 00:06:17,880
It doesn't feel like you're ever
going to get unstuck sometimes,

143
00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,910
but what we try to do with
this class is show you

144
00:06:20,910 --> 00:06:23,190
our process because
this is what we found

145
00:06:23,190 --> 00:06:26,100
has made writing as smooth
as possible and as fun as

146
00:06:26,100 --> 00:06:26,700
possible.

147
00:06:26,700 --> 00:06:28,410
I'm going to be a
little dramatic here.

148
00:06:28,408 --> 00:06:31,558
Right here we cut to black.

149
00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:32,580
Hey, I'm Ross.

150
00:06:32,580 --> 00:06:33,330
I'm Matt.

151
00:06:33,330 --> 00:06:35,010
Together, we're the
Duffer brothers.

152
00:06:35,010 --> 00:06:37,880
And this is "MasterClass."


