要不然你就得坐到刑满释放 Otherwise, you'll be here until your MR." You know?
那我就坐到刑满释放吧 我不会认罪的 So I guess I'll be in here 'til my MR, 'cause I ain't gonna admit to it.
我不会撒谎 I'm not gonna lie.
这些是上诉法院的文件 Here's the court of appeals.
判决书 Sentencing papers.
这些大概是98年的吧 我发了副本出去 This one must've been in... '98. I sent transcripts out.
发了很多 我复印了10份 A whole bunch of them. I made ten copies.
就坐在客厅用复印机一份一份复印出来的 Sit in the living room and done it on the copy machine.
然后我把文件分十份放在桌上 Then I put the pieces, each on the table to make ten, you know, ten of them.
十分费神 It was nerve-racking.
我估计都弄了有1000多页吧 I think there's about a thousand pages in 'em.
这份送去了纽约 This one went to New York.
我寄去了好多地方 They went all over.
CBS的"60分钟" ABC的"20/20"我都寄过去了 Wherever 60 Minutes is or 20/20 or...
其他的我就不记得了 I can't remember the other ones all.
反正就是那些电视上经常放的节目 All them things that's on TV always.
我以为他们看完这些文件就会帮史蒂文出狱 I thought they'd help Steven to get out if they read all this here script stuff.
但是突然很多都退了回来 Then all of a sudden we got a lot of 'em back, though.
他们就说干不来之类的 They couldn't do it, they said, or something like that.
我花了很多时间去弄这些 Yeah, I put a lot of hours in these boxes.
你得有耐心 You learn to take patience, because everything...
因为凡事都太需要时间 it takes time.
在监狱里 你必须等 In prison, you gotta wait.
没有事情能一刹那就搞定 Nothing happens just like that.
总之 他们拿不走我对于家庭的爱 Anyway, they couldn't take away my love for my family and that.
我从来就没有消极过 一直都保持乐观 I never had bad hopes. It was always good hopes.
他的辩护律师和上诉律师都说 Both his trial lawyer and his appellate lawyer said,
"你能不能看一下史蒂文·艾弗里的案子 "Could you look at this guy's case, at Steven Avery's case?
我们都为这个案子失眠15年了" We've been losing sleep over this case for 15 years."
我们知道相关技术有所提高 于是要求再次测试 We knew the technology had advanced, so we asked for the testing again.
证物再次送到了刑事技术实验室 The material was sent down to the crime laboratory again,
实验室发现了在帮受害人梳理阴毛时 and what they found was that there were 13 pubic hairs
采集到的13根阴毛 that had been collected during the pubic hair combings of the victim.
有11根是没有发根的 Eleven of those hairs had no root.
所以剩下的2根才是有用的 So they were down to two pubic hairs.
其中有一根是女性的 也许就是佩妮·伯恩岑自己的 One of those hairs was from a female, probably Penny Beerntsen's own hair.
最后的那根阴毛就关系到案件的真相 The truth in this matter came down to that one remaining pubic hair.
实验室取得了一份基因全图 They got a full profile.
这份基因全图绝对地排除了史蒂文·艾弗里的嫌疑 That profile conclusively excluded Steven Avery.
这绝对不是他的 现在我们完全确定了 It could not have come from him. Now we know that with certainty.
我不知道这足不足够让此案重新审理 Whether that alone would've been enough to grant him a new trial, I don't know.
不过更加戏剧性的是 他们把从阴毛中提取的基因全图 But even more dramatically, they took that profile from that pubic hair
拿到州里的刑事技术实验室数据库里进行比对 and they ran it through the state crime laboratory data bank
找到了匹配之人 and they got a cold hit.
也就是说 这份基因全图匹配到了一个 That is to say, they matched it to somebody in the data bank
他们并不知道其存在于数据库的人 who they didn't know was in there.
那个人就是格雷戈里·艾伦 And that somebody was Gregory Allen.
我感受到了自由 I feel free.
当我出狱的时候 愤怒也随风飘散了 When I left the prison, the anger left.
消失不见了 It was gone.
我的愤怒留在了狱门之后 It stayed there, behind them gates.
它没有随着我一起出来 It didn't come out with me.
我出狱的时候十分开心 I was happy when I got out.
我大概是地球上最开心的人了 I probably was the happiest man on the Earth.
-你好吗 -你们好 - How you doing? - Oh, hello.
-你怎么样 -我挺好 - How are you? - I'm pretty good.
-感觉如何 -特别好 - How's it feel? - It feels wonderful.
史蒂文 天啊 Oh, God! Oh, Stevie!
咱们终于摆脱了这事儿 Let's get rid of this thing.
对于捉到了真正的罪犯我很开心 I'm just glad they got the guy who did it.
你能不能原谅受害者 Do you forgive the victim?
这根本不是她的错 It ain't at all her fault, you know.
无心之过而已 Honest mistake, you know.
I mean, most the time, I think the cops put it in her head more.
Who's this?
I don't know.
The revelation hit the DA's office and the sheriff's office like a bomb.
And as it began to unfold what had happened,
there was then a huge set of repercussions
on a whole series of people in those offices.
The day of or the day after Steven's release,
law enforcement officers in Manitowoc
are writing memos to describe activity
that had occurred almost ten years earlier.
They don't do that unless they feel threatened.
When I called Denis Vogel to tell him the news
that Steven Avery wasn't guilty of assaulting Penny Beerntsen,
I was expecting to hear some shock or some surprise, like,
"Oh, my goodness. How did this happen?"
Or "I feel terrible about it" Or...
"Thank goodness the DNA proved it."
But I didn't hear any of that from Mr. Vogel.
What I heard instead was a question,
whether or not there was anything on Gregory Allen in his file.
I couldn't believe it. I mean, it showed me two things.
It showed me that he suspected that Gregory Allen was the assailant.
But it also showed me... I didn't know how else to take it,
other than that he was worried about his exposure.
That something about Gregory Allen was in his file.
I started leafing through denis Vogel's file on Avery and I come across
a criminal complaint.
"State of Wisconsin v. Gregory Allen" In the Avery file,
which didn't make a lot of sense.
It was a charge of lewd and lascivious behavior.
He had dropped his shorts, he exposed himself and he lunged at this woman.
And it was the same basic section of the beach
where Penny Beerntsen was assaulted two... two years later.
Um, and I looked at which prosecutor had prosecuted Gregory Allen earlier,
and it was Denis Vogel.
That was evidence that at least made it possible
that the DA and the sheriff
either knew or should have known
that Steven Avery was not the assailant.
And not only that,
we believe there was the potential that they knew, in fact,
who the assailant was, but continued with the prosecution.
We needed for somebody else to look at it
and the logical office would be the Attorney General's office.
It's extraordinarily significant
that a prosecutor asks the Attorney General,
the chief prosecutor of the state,
to investigate his own department
and law enforcement in that community. That doesn't happen.
Would you tell us what your occupation is, please?
I am a special agent with the Wisconsin Department of Justice
Division of Criminal Investigation.
What are your duties as a special agent?
To investigate crimes relating to misconduct in office.
And you were one of two DCI agents
to work on an investigation involving the prosecution in 1985
- of Steven Avery, is that right? - Yes.
We wanted to interview everybody we could identify as being involved
in the investigation or in the prosecution.
Understand, this is all happening in public view.
The public knew an Attorney General's investigation was underway.