1 00:00:09,860 --> 00:00:15,340 USA! USA! 2 00:00:19,140 --> 00:00:22,940 # We have come a long, long way together. 3 00:00:22,940 --> 00:00:28,180 # Through the hard times and the good. Thank you. Look what happened, 4 00:00:28,180 --> 00:00:35,740 is this crazy? # I have to celebrate you, baby. 5 00:00:35,740 --> 00:00:44,340 # I have to praise ye like I should. # We have come a long, long way 6 00:00:44,340 --> 00:00:50,660 together. # Through the hard times and the 7 00:00:50,660 --> 00:00:57,380 good. # I have to celebrate you, baby. 8 00:00:57,380 --> 00:01:06,340 # I have to praise you like I should. 9 00:01:07,260 --> 00:01:17,220 should. Donald Trump will become the 47th president of the United States. 10 00:01:18,060 --> 00:01:24,540 # I have to praise you. # I have to praise you like I 11 00:01:24,540 --> 00:01:33,540 should. He asked, are there any place where 12 00:01:33,540 --> 00:01:40,940 the vice-president is over performing? 13 00:01:41,060 --> 00:01:48,340 Literally nothing? Literally not one? 14 00:01:48,780 --> 00:01:54,380 I know many people feel like we are entering a dark time. If it is, let 15 00:01:54,380 --> 00:02:10,300 us fill the sky with the light of a brilliant, brilliant billion stars. 16 00:02:10,300 --> 00:02:13,700 # I have to praise you like I should. 17 00:02:13,700 --> 00:02:16,780 Welcome to Newsnight, live from the White House. 18 00:02:16,780 --> 00:02:19,420 America has hired a strongman who promised to save the country 19 00:02:19,420 --> 00:02:24,580 and rejected a woman who promised to bring the country together. 20 00:02:24,580 --> 00:02:30,660 Why did Trump win so comprehensively and why did Harris lose? 21 00:02:30,660 --> 00:02:33,260 It's a stunning political comeback - a landslide for Donald Trump 22 00:02:33,260 --> 00:02:35,660 as voters emphatically chose him to be the 47th president 23 00:02:35,660 --> 00:02:37,740 of the United States. 24 00:02:37,740 --> 00:02:41,580 Tonight, what happens next for this nation and the world? 25 00:02:41,580 --> 00:02:43,500 On this live extended special, the conservative news 26 00:02:43,500 --> 00:02:48,980 anchor and friend of Donald Trump - Eric Bolling. 27 00:02:48,980 --> 00:02:53,100 He's the author of Wake Up America and The Swamp who is also the host 28 00:02:53,100 --> 00:02:56,180 of the new politics based talk show called Bolling! 29 00:02:56,180 --> 00:02:59,500 Also, Democratic strategist Ameshia Cross is back with us - 30 00:02:59,500 --> 00:03:04,020 she worked for President Obama. 31 00:03:04,020 --> 00:03:08,900 And journalist and Talk TV presenter Piers Morgan who has been a friend 32 00:03:08,900 --> 00:03:12,740 of Mr Trump for 20 years but kind of fell out with him after Mr Trump 33 00:03:12,740 --> 00:03:14,420 falsely claimed the 2020 election was stolen. 34 00:03:14,420 --> 00:03:17,300 But you are now friends again because he took your call today. 35 00:03:17,300 --> 00:03:22,460 What did he say? 36 00:03:22,540 --> 00:03:26,860 He did, I was quite surprised, actually. I obviously didn't get to 37 00:03:26,860 --> 00:03:30,740 bed until very late and I rang him about 9.30 and it rang a few times 38 00:03:30,740 --> 00:03:35,020 and he picked the phone up. He said, Piers, can you believe this? And I 39 00:03:35,020 --> 00:03:38,900 was like, not really, because the scale of the win was beyond anything 40 00:03:38,900 --> 00:03:43,060 anyone anticipated. It's not beyond the realms of fantasy that Trump 41 00:03:43,060 --> 00:03:49,820 could have a complete clean sweep. The Senate, the White House, US 42 00:03:49,820 --> 00:03:53,020 House of Representatives, everything, the popular vote, and 43 00:03:53,020 --> 00:03:57,260 who would have thought that would be the case if you went back to and 44 00:03:57,260 --> 00:04:01,500 have yet to when Donald Trump was dead and buried politically? It is 45 00:04:01,500 --> 00:04:04,740 the greatest political comeback of all time and I told him that this 46 00:04:04,740 --> 00:04:09,820 morning. He did not demur from that categorisation. But I think even he, 47 00:04:09,820 --> 00:04:13,660 when I spoke to him, was quite shell-shocked by the size of the win 48 00:04:13,660 --> 00:04:18,820 was that even in his wildest dreams, and obviously, he dreams big, I 49 00:04:18,820 --> 00:04:24,100 don't think he expected to have such a vindication, as he would see it, 50 00:04:24,100 --> 00:04:28,860 of his policies, and such a repudiation of Kamala Harris and 51 00:04:28,860 --> 00:04:33,900 Harris Biden administration. But that what happened. Let's get into 52 00:04:33,900 --> 00:04:38,380 how he did it. Eric Bolling, it was so emphatic. How did he do it? I 53 00:04:38,380 --> 00:04:41,620 would like to push back a bit on this notion that this is the 54 00:04:41,620 --> 00:04:44,900 greatest political comeback in history. Why is it a political 55 00:04:44,900 --> 00:04:52,980 comeback? Because he lost in 2020. But he never really went away. He 56 00:04:52,980 --> 00:04:58,060 was the face of the Maga movement, replacing the establishment, the old 57 00:04:58,060 --> 00:05:02,900 school republicanism with a new America First Conservative political 58 00:05:02,900 --> 00:05:10,500 system. How has he done it this time? He went up against a failing 59 00:05:10,500 --> 00:05:14,340 Joe Biden at the beginning of this cycle and he finished with someone 60 00:05:14,340 --> 00:05:17,980 who had to drop out of the 2020 cycle because she wasn't impressed 61 00:05:17,980 --> 00:05:24,540 by the Democrat party. So it's about them rather than him? It's about 62 00:05:24,540 --> 00:05:28,660 change. In America, we have been through a rough time over the last 63 00:05:28,660 --> 00:05:34,900 four years with inflation soaring, crime soaring, open borders and 64 00:05:34,900 --> 00:05:38,220 illegal immigrants who are raping and murdering some of our women and 65 00:05:38,220 --> 00:05:45,340 children in America. It was a failed Democrat policy. America rejected 66 00:05:45,340 --> 00:05:53,060 Kamala Harris and this notion that men should play in women's sports, 67 00:05:53,060 --> 00:05:58,700 that transgender boys should be in girls' bathrooms. America set, 68 00:05:58,700 --> 00:06:06,700 enough. They rejected her, they also rejected the policies of the 69 00:06:06,700 --> 00:06:10,180 Democrat party. Ameshia Cross, are you in shock that 72 million people 70 00:06:10,180 --> 00:06:13,980 voted for Eric Bolling has just described? I think the beginning of 71 00:06:13,980 --> 00:06:22,220 what Eric said was actually factual. I don't think that this should have 72 00:06:22,220 --> 00:06:26,420 been a surprise to a lot of people. The voter turnout was seismic, yes, 73 00:06:26,420 --> 00:06:30,820 but the fact that Trump stood a high chance of winning was not a shock to 74 00:06:30,820 --> 00:06:35,500 a lot of folks. Come on, it must have been a shock to you. I always 75 00:06:35,500 --> 00:06:39,900 thought this would be extremely competitive. But you did not imagine 76 00:06:39,900 --> 00:06:44,540 it would be such a comprehensive defeat. No. But did I think it would 77 00:06:44,540 --> 00:06:49,860 be competitive? Absolutely. 78 00:06:49,940 --> 00:06:51,780 be competitive? Absolutely. Partly because America is extremely 79 00:06:51,780 --> 00:06:57,860 partisan. We cannot underscore how vital the push to come back after 80 00:06:57,860 --> 00:07:00,780 the pandemic was. Pandemic fatigue affected a lot of Americans in all 81 00:07:00,780 --> 00:07:04,620 income ratios, irrespective of the job gains that were made by the 82 00:07:04,620 --> 00:07:09,700 Biden administration, irrespective of the gains in health care, 83 00:07:09,700 --> 00:07:13,780 particularly Medicare and affordable health care when it comes to drugs 84 00:07:13,780 --> 00:07:19,140 like insulin for diabetics. When we talk about some of the things the 85 00:07:19,140 --> 00:07:22,500 Biden administration has taken on, a lot of that did not translate to 86 00:07:22,500 --> 00:07:26,220 people on the ground because of price gouging and what translated to 87 00:07:26,220 --> 00:07:30,420 some people as inflation, when we had the lowest inflation of anybody 88 00:07:30,420 --> 00:07:34,860 in the developed world. Those things were not translating. I also think 89 00:07:34,860 --> 00:07:37,660 Kamala Harris bet big on women's reproductive rights because polling 90 00:07:37,660 --> 00:07:41,860 showed that that was a huge virtue for women. When it came to the 91 00:07:41,860 --> 00:07:45,980 actual exit polls on election day, women went in a different direction 92 00:07:45,980 --> 00:07:49,940 and that was not a top policy issue for them. We are going to delve into 93 00:07:49,940 --> 00:07:54,500 where she and Biden and her campaign went wrong. Piers Morgan, let's talk 94 00:07:54,500 --> 00:07:58,620 about what Donald Trump said he would do. Donald Trump talked about 95 00:07:58,620 --> 00:08:06,500 going after the enemy within, "The crazy lunatics, fascists, Marxists, 96 00:08:06,500 --> 00:08:10,540 the people running the country. These people are more dangerous, the 97 00:08:10,540 --> 00:08:14,300 enemy within, than Russia and China". What does that mean in 98 00:08:14,300 --> 00:08:21,900 practical terms? If you know Donald Trump well, it means he was sick and 99 00:08:21,900 --> 00:08:25,140 tired of being called the new Hitler and presiding over a bunch of 100 00:08:25,140 --> 00:08:29,100 neo-Nazis and fascists who were going to be an exact existential 101 00:08:29,100 --> 00:08:32,940 threat to American democracy. So he decided to return fire with fire and 102 00:08:32,940 --> 00:08:36,740 say, if you are going to call me Hitler for years on end, I'm going 103 00:08:36,740 --> 00:08:41,580 to return the favour. As with all things that Trump says, it's better 104 00:08:41,580 --> 00:08:45,300 for my estimation of knowing him a long time through good and bad 105 00:08:45,300 --> 00:08:48,780 periods of our relationship, to not take everything he says at face 106 00:08:48,780 --> 00:08:54,500 value but to judge him on his actions. But there is a wider point. 107 00:08:54,500 --> 00:08:58,140 The Democrats in this election campaign began by saying it was 108 00:08:58,140 --> 00:09:01,900 going to be about hope and joy. Remember the start of her campaign? 109 00:09:01,900 --> 00:09:07,100 It was going to be joyous, and it took about three microseconds to 110 00:09:07,100 --> 00:09:10,900 revert back to the Hillary Clinton playbook which was unsuccessful in 111 00:09:10,900 --> 00:09:14,900 2016 of just branding Trump and his supporters a bunch of fascists and 112 00:09:14,900 --> 00:09:19,700 garbage and the rest of it. And most Americans want, we are done with 113 00:09:19,700 --> 00:09:25,380 this rhetoric, this ludicrous demonisation of Donald Trump. He is 114 00:09:25,380 --> 00:09:28,540 not a Nazi. Adolf Hitler killed 12 million people including 6 billion 115 00:09:28,540 --> 00:09:38,020 Jews in the Holocaust. So are you saying he is not going to go after 116 00:09:38,020 --> 00:09:43,140 those people that he regards as his enemies? If I were him, I wouldn't 117 00:09:43,140 --> 00:09:48,500 waste my energy. Trump has been given a rare chance to have a second 118 00:09:48,500 --> 00:09:52,300 go at his legacy. He knows he not going to run again, so he hasn't got 119 00:09:52,300 --> 00:09:56,460 to compete in that sense. I would hope he would park the energy he may 120 00:09:56,460 --> 00:10:00,820 be feeling towards revenge on actually doing what he is promising, 121 00:10:00,820 --> 00:10:04,060 which is to make America great again. He has a good chance. 122 00:10:04,060 --> 00:10:09,220 Inflation is nearly over, the economy is beginning to roar back. 123 00:10:09,220 --> 00:10:13,220 He is coming in at a good time to run America. It has done better than 124 00:10:13,220 --> 00:10:17,580 most countries coming out of the pandemic, and he has a chance, 125 00:10:17,580 --> 00:10:21,020 through the economic policies he has espoused and through a tough stance 126 00:10:21,020 --> 00:10:25,020 on the border, which has been out of control, if we think we have 127 00:10:25,020 --> 00:10:27,780 problems in the UK, nearly 10 million illegal immigrants have come 128 00:10:27,780 --> 00:10:32,420 through the American southern border in the last four years, it is 129 00:10:32,420 --> 00:10:36,140 ridiculous. So Trump is aware of what average Americans care about. I 130 00:10:36,140 --> 00:10:39,460 had Ameshia saying the issue of abortion was not that big. It was 131 00:10:39,460 --> 00:10:46,140 never going to be, primarily because Americans want, hang on, the 132 00:10:46,140 --> 00:10:51,340 Democrats are the party of women's rights. So how are they allowing 133 00:10:51,340 --> 00:10:56,140 transgender athletes to destroy women's rights in sport? You can't 134 00:10:56,140 --> 00:11:01,380 be both. One erodes women's rights and one protects them, so there were 135 00:11:01,380 --> 00:11:05,700 lots of inconsistencies in the way the Democrats presented themselves. 136 00:11:05,700 --> 00:11:09,660 It has been a culture war argument that the right has taken on for some 137 00:11:09,660 --> 00:11:14,380 time. Do you want to answer that point from peers Morgan? About 138 00:11:14,380 --> 00:11:18,140 transgender rights? And how you reconcile that with the party 139 00:11:18,140 --> 00:11:21,100 women's rights. When you're talking about what I would consider a red 140 00:11:21,100 --> 00:11:25,340 herring. Less than 1% of the American population identify as 141 00:11:25,340 --> 00:11:33,020 transgender. This is not a major issue, it is something they utilised 142 00:11:33,020 --> 00:11:38,180 their base. I would like you to answer that point. I just did, less 143 00:11:38,180 --> 00:11:47,660 than 1% identify as transgender. This was not the top issue. No one 144 00:11:47,660 --> 00:11:51,820 said transgender issues whether think they cared about. How do you 145 00:11:51,820 --> 00:11:55,060 reconcile the two as a Democrat? The thing the Democrats need to 146 00:11:55,060 --> 00:11:59,380 reconcile is how to maintain working class voters. You are ignoring the 147 00:11:59,380 --> 00:12:05,220 question. I answered the question, it is less than 1% who care. It is 148 00:12:05,220 --> 00:12:11,220 not a talking point for voters. Is it because you can't answer? I don't 149 00:12:11,220 --> 00:12:18,260 engage in conversations about red herrings. 150 00:12:18,340 --> 00:12:27,740 herrings. Can I get in? She was handed the nomination in Joe Biden 151 00:12:27,740 --> 00:12:31,420 was clearly not going to perform well, so they gave them two Kamala 152 00:12:31,420 --> 00:12:34,940 Harris. Then there is the issue of the first Gentleman, who could no 153 00:12:34,940 --> 00:12:37,740 longer be called the first Gentleman because there were accusations of 154 00:12:37,740 --> 00:12:41,540 him slapping his girlfriend at the time so hard, her face went around 155 00:12:41,540 --> 00:12:45,020 backwards. Asking a pregnant girlfriend who happened to be the 156 00:12:45,020 --> 00:12:50,780 nanny to one of his children he got pregnant, to have an abortion. There 157 00:12:50,780 --> 00:12:59,860 are so many things. I am going back to Piers Morgan in New York. Come 158 00:12:59,860 --> 00:13:05,380 back to Ameshia Cross, please. There is a complete delusion and 159 00:13:05,380 --> 00:13:09,940 self-denial in Ameshia's refusal to address the issue. She has 1% of 160 00:13:09,940 --> 00:13:13,940 Americans are trans, fine. But this trans debate has been massively loud 161 00:13:13,940 --> 00:13:17,700 and noisy for several years and Trump set an interesting thing last 162 00:13:17,700 --> 00:13:22,020 night. He talked about the reason that so many people from different 163 00:13:22,020 --> 00:13:25,900 groups, Latinos, black Americans, women, why have they gravitated to 164 00:13:25,900 --> 00:13:32,340 him in big numbers? He said it was because he has, at the heart of a 165 00:13:32,340 --> 00:13:36,260 realignment of the voters in America, a core of common sense. If 166 00:13:36,260 --> 00:13:41,300 you take the trans issue, only last week the United Nations had a report 167 00:13:41,300 --> 00:13:46,220 that said 900 medals that should have gone to women in women's sport 168 00:13:46,220 --> 00:13:50,860 around the world had done to transgender athletes, in other 169 00:13:50,860 --> 00:13:53,940 words, biological males. We also witnessed the appalling scenes in 170 00:13:53,940 --> 00:13:59,380 Paris where a boxer in women's boxing beat up a woman so badly that 171 00:13:59,380 --> 00:14:04,580 she quit after 40 seconds. It has now been reported in the last few 172 00:14:04,580 --> 00:14:08,340 days that the boxer, who went on to win a gold medal, has male 173 00:14:08,340 --> 00:14:14,700 chromosomes and male physiology. This is where it gets to the point 174 00:14:14,700 --> 00:14:18,220 where women are going to start dying at the altar of transgender virtue 175 00:14:18,220 --> 00:14:22,260 signalling. I believe in fairness and equality for trans people, but I 176 00:14:22,260 --> 00:14:25,900 do not believe that gives them the right to erode women's rights. I 177 00:14:25,900 --> 00:14:30,700 come back to Ameshia to answer the question. How do you address the 178 00:14:30,700 --> 00:14:33,900 fact that the Democrats had a female candidate as their nominee who kept 179 00:14:33,900 --> 00:14:38,380 going on about being the person who would defend women's rights, when 180 00:14:38,380 --> 00:14:42,460 you are also encouraging, as Kamala Harris and Joe Biden did, this 181 00:14:42,460 --> 00:14:50,420 ridiculous assault on women's rights in sport? 182 00:14:50,420 --> 00:14:52,020 I'm going to move on. 183 00:14:52,020 --> 00:14:54,420 The Newsnight team has been out today in Washington DC 184 00:14:54,420 --> 00:14:55,860 speaking to voters - here's what 185 00:14:55,860 --> 00:14:58,180 they had to say. 186 00:14:58,180 --> 00:15:02,700 I believe he is going to give us some prosperity. I believe American 187 00:15:02,700 --> 00:15:07,460 citizens want to be feeling down and out about taxes, gasoline, paying 188 00:15:07,460 --> 00:15:16,900 bills. I believe Donald is going to handle it. I think his first term 189 00:15:16,900 --> 00:15:19,420 overall was successful for the country so I'm looking forward to 190 00:15:19,420 --> 00:15:26,220 this and getting away from the high inflation and hopefully bringing 191 00:15:26,220 --> 00:15:29,420 that down because it is hard to pay for groceries as high as they have 192 00:15:29,420 --> 00:15:33,660 gone so I am hopeful for the future. I was not expecting a clear victory 193 00:15:33,660 --> 00:15:41,540 for Donald Trump. But maybe because she started campaigning later and 194 00:15:41,540 --> 00:15:47,460 may be because she has a female candidate, I am not sure if we are 195 00:15:47,460 --> 00:15:53,900 ready for a female president yet. It's 2024. Of course, it is the time 196 00:15:53,900 --> 00:15:59,140 to have it, this was the moment to have it. I voted for Donald Trump, I 197 00:15:59,140 --> 00:16:07,900 did it and I am happy. What are your emotions today? 198 00:16:08,580 --> 00:16:13,180 emotions today? Sad, tired. I'm a university student over at GW and 199 00:16:13,180 --> 00:16:19,580 our professor came in, I could see she was crying before she even came 200 00:16:19,580 --> 00:16:29,100 through the door. How are you feeling? Disgusted. Concerned. Why? 201 00:16:29,100 --> 00:16:31,940 Because of the checks and balances are not there any more in my 202 00:16:31,940 --> 00:16:42,900 estimation. What I have known all my life they will never know and I 203 00:16:42,900 --> 00:16:49,180 can't 204 00:16:49,180 --> 00:16:55,220 can't protect them from that. That is a massive thing to say. It is a 205 00:16:55,220 --> 00:17:01,700 massive thing to feel. Do you think Donald Trump wants to do anything to 206 00:17:01,700 --> 00:17:09,420 harm your ghettos? I think the policies will harm them. Just the 207 00:17:09,420 --> 00:17:14,940 stuff on vaccines. I didn't have to worry about the measles or 208 00:17:14,940 --> 00:17:18,100 diphtheria, I didn't have to worry about a lot of things and now they 209 00:17:18,100 --> 00:17:23,580 are going to have to worry about them. As a trump supporter what do 210 00:17:23,580 --> 00:17:30,780 you say to women like that who were literally crying today? It is 211 00:17:30,780 --> 00:17:35,300 heartbreaking to hear people say those things but far more dangerous 212 00:17:35,300 --> 00:17:39,340 to every community, not just African-American communities are 213 00:17:39,340 --> 00:17:43,140 women with children, are some of the policies of the Biden Harris 214 00:17:43,140 --> 00:17:47,020 administration. I'm asking about Donald Trump and the effect he is 215 00:17:47,020 --> 00:17:50,940 having on some of these voters. Of course they wanted Kamala Harris and 216 00:17:50,940 --> 00:17:55,180 they're going to cry if their candidate didn't win. This is what 217 00:17:55,180 --> 00:17:59,660 she is worried about. She should be worried about a boy hitting a 218 00:17:59,660 --> 00:18:04,740 volleyball into their daughter's faces. Forgive me, she is worried 219 00:18:04,740 --> 00:18:12,940 about someone like Robert Kennedy Junior becoming Donald Trump's... 220 00:18:12,940 --> 00:18:17,020 There is no indication he is going to take vaccines off the market. He 221 00:18:17,020 --> 00:18:25,260 just doesn't want a mandated vaccine. If you want to take a 222 00:18:25,260 --> 00:18:29,860 vaccine, that's great, but not to remove, he didn't say he was going 223 00:18:29,860 --> 00:18:35,540 to remove vaccines. But there is a possibility Robert Kennedy Junior 224 00:18:35,540 --> 00:18:40,740 could be Donald Trump's health tsar and this is he has said wild things 225 00:18:40,740 --> 00:18:41,900 about the vaccines. 226 00:18:41,900 --> 00:18:44,300 Here's what Trump has previously said about the role his 227 00:18:44,300 --> 00:18:46,460 former Presidential rival Robert F Kennedy Junior could play 228 00:18:46,460 --> 00:18:47,660 in a future Trump administration. 229 00:18:47,660 --> 00:18:49,340 Robert F Kennedy Jr, he came on. 230 00:18:49,340 --> 00:18:51,260 And he's going to help make America healthy 231 00:18:51,260 --> 00:18:52,660 again. 232 00:18:52,660 --> 00:18:59,340 CHANTING: Bobby! Bobby! 233 00:18:59,340 --> 00:19:02,300 And he's a great guy and he really means it and 234 00:19:02,300 --> 00:19:06,140 he wants to do some things and we are going to let him go to it. 235 00:19:06,140 --> 00:19:14,100 I just said, but Bobby, leave the oil to me. 236 00:19:18,380 --> 00:19:23,980 So just to quote some of the things he said, he said Melinda and Bill 237 00:19:23,980 --> 00:19:34,300 Gates used the pandemic to promote vaccines, 2020, the historic coup 238 00:19:34,300 --> 00:19:40,100 d'etat against democracy. He said vaccines cause autism, the US 239 00:19:40,100 --> 00:19:42,500 Government knowingly allowed the pharmaceuticals industry to 240 00:19:42,500 --> 00:19:45,940 knowingly poison a generation of children. It is completely false and 241 00:19:45,940 --> 00:19:51,620 that is why women are crying. The actual vaccine for Covid-19 was 242 00:19:51,620 --> 00:19:59,540 developed by Donald Trump. Robert F Kennedy wants to be part... No. No. 243 00:19:59,540 --> 00:20:03,340 Robert F Kennedy is not going to be the Health Secretary, it is not 244 00:20:03,340 --> 00:20:08,420 going to happen. The transition leader said that is not going to be 245 00:20:08,420 --> 00:20:13,580 the case. Donald Trump said it literally last night. To be part of 246 00:20:13,580 --> 00:20:17,420 the administration but not the Health Secretary. What do you think? 247 00:20:17,420 --> 00:20:25,180 I think he will become a health tsar of sorts and he wanted to promote 248 00:20:25,180 --> 00:20:29,540 this. He stands by his vaccine conspiracy theories. He wants to get 249 00:20:29,540 --> 00:20:34,140 all vaccines off of the market. That would cause major chaos for this 250 00:20:34,140 --> 00:20:37,860 nation where we have eradicated things like polio. He is more than 251 00:20:37,860 --> 00:20:41,900 willing to bring those things back because he there has a very strange 252 00:20:41,900 --> 00:20:47,220 view of how science works. He is also somebody who is absolutely fine 253 00:20:47,220 --> 00:20:50,540 pushing wacko conspiracy theories that have been roundly castigated by 254 00:20:50,540 --> 00:20:54,060 everybody who has a medical license in this country. It is a very scary 255 00:20:54,060 --> 00:20:57,820 place to be especially for people who have young kids who live in 256 00:20:57,820 --> 00:21:01,580 these communities where they are sending your kids to school. Your 257 00:21:01,580 --> 00:21:05,220 kids are vaccinated and others are not, you can spread mass disease 258 00:21:05,220 --> 00:21:14,540 very quickly. Only if you are in charge of actually making the 259 00:21:14,540 --> 00:21:18,460 decision. His carrot for RFK was that he was going to be in charge. 260 00:21:18,460 --> 00:21:22,060 Does anyone think Elon Musk are really going to be in charge of 261 00:21:22,060 --> 00:21:27,500 wiping out excess fat in the Government? He might well be. What 262 00:21:27,500 --> 00:21:32,980 job is Elon Musk going to get and why? I hope Elon Musk is heavily 263 00:21:32,980 --> 00:21:38,340 involved in helping Trump to trim down the ridiculously over layered 264 00:21:38,340 --> 00:21:41,860 and over expensive bureaucracy which has crippled the American Government 265 00:21:41,860 --> 00:21:46,420 for many decades. Look at Elon Musk's record. This is a guy behind 266 00:21:46,420 --> 00:21:52,820 space X and Tesla and neuro link, who has taken Twitter and try to 267 00:21:52,820 --> 00:21:56,420 make it a fairer platform for free speech without would argue he has 268 00:21:56,420 --> 00:22:00,500 done. In the last election there was clear interference by the tech 269 00:22:00,500 --> 00:22:05,140 bosses to suppress free speech which could have affected the result of 270 00:22:05,140 --> 00:22:10,140 that election. The hunter Biden laptop story was banned from Twitter 271 00:22:10,140 --> 00:22:13,700 for two weeks because of the election coming up. That is 272 00:22:13,700 --> 00:22:17,020 suppression of information that could have been materially impacting 273 00:22:17,020 --> 00:22:22,620 on the election result. So I think Elon Musk, he is an extraordinary 274 00:22:22,620 --> 00:22:25,620 character. I met him in France earlier this year and he was 275 00:22:25,620 --> 00:22:28,980 mesmerising when he talked about things like colonising Mars and why 276 00:22:28,980 --> 00:22:35,220 we have to do that, about humanoid robots and so on. He is an 277 00:22:35,220 --> 00:22:38,740 extraordinary genius but I would absolutely trust Elon Musk over 278 00:22:38,740 --> 00:22:41,260 anyone in the American Federal Government to work out how to make 279 00:22:41,260 --> 00:22:48,180 savings. He went into X, Twitter as it was, and fired half the staff 280 00:22:48,180 --> 00:22:50,860 almost immediately and the whole thing continued to work perfectly 281 00:22:50,860 --> 00:22:57,460 fine. I would absolutely back Elon Musk and for all the liberals who 282 00:22:57,460 --> 00:23:02,060 throw their toys out of the pram I would say, he was one of you but he 283 00:23:02,060 --> 00:23:07,300 was so put off by what he called the walk mind virus which has been a 284 00:23:07,300 --> 00:23:10,100 really insidious scourge on society, not just here in America but also in 285 00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:16,220 Europe in the UK. And this vote here has been people saying enough of 286 00:23:16,220 --> 00:23:19,900 this nonsense. We are just not going to have a society any more where try 287 00:23:19,900 --> 00:23:25,620 and introduce this walk mind set to every aspect of our lives and Elon 288 00:23:25,620 --> 00:23:31,620 Musk has been leading that. I applaud him. You are 100% correct. 289 00:23:31,620 --> 00:23:35,740 Elon Musk will be an amazing addition to the Trump administration 290 00:23:35,740 --> 00:23:39,300 just as Jared Kushner was an amazing addition to the Trump 291 00:23:39,300 --> 00:23:45,740 administration, but they are senior advisers. He developed the Abraham 292 00:23:45,740 --> 00:23:49,580 accords which brought Arabs and Israelis together. Elon Musk can be 293 00:23:49,580 --> 00:23:52,980 very effective without the official title of chief staffer or official 294 00:23:52,980 --> 00:24:00,100 title. I agree with Piers Morgan in that respect. I believe you have to 295 00:24:00,100 --> 00:24:03,220 leave us but thank you for your time. Thanks for talking to our 296 00:24:03,220 --> 00:24:04,420 British viewers. 297 00:24:04,420 --> 00:24:06,100 Earlier this evening, Kamala Harris conceded defeat 298 00:24:06,100 --> 00:24:08,260 in a speech at Howard University in Washington DC. 299 00:24:08,260 --> 00:24:10,980 Here she is. 300 00:24:10,980 --> 00:24:13,860 To the young people who are watching, it is OK to feel 301 00:24:13,860 --> 00:24:18,740 sad and disappointed, but please know it's going to be OK. 302 00:24:18,740 --> 00:24:23,860 On the campaign, I would often say, when we fight, we win. 303 00:24:23,860 --> 00:24:26,740 But here's the thing, here's the thing. 304 00:24:26,740 --> 00:24:30,620 Sometimes the fight takes a while. 305 00:24:30,620 --> 00:24:35,940 That doesn't mean we won't win. That doesn't mean we won't win. 306 00:24:35,940 --> 00:24:39,220 The important thing is, don't ever give up. 307 00:24:39,220 --> 00:24:41,500 Don't ever give up. 308 00:24:41,500 --> 00:24:46,820 Don't ever stop trying to make the world a better place. 309 00:24:46,820 --> 00:24:48,900 You have power! 310 00:24:48,900 --> 00:24:51,140 You have power. 311 00:24:51,140 --> 00:24:57,740 Only when it is dark enough can you see the stars. 312 00:24:57,740 --> 00:25:03,260 I know many people feel like we are entering a dark time, 313 00:25:03,260 --> 00:25:08,700 but for the benefit of us all, I hope that is not the case. 314 00:25:08,700 --> 00:25:16,300 But here's the thing, America, if it is, let us fill the sky 315 00:25:16,300 --> 00:25:20,180 with the light of a brilliant, brilliant billions of stars. 316 00:25:20,180 --> 00:25:23,060 APPLAUSE. 317 00:25:23,060 --> 00:25:31,020 The light, the light of optimism, of faith, of truth and service. 318 00:25:32,540 --> 00:25:37,380 CHEERING. 319 00:25:37,380 --> 00:25:44,700 Come on. 320 00:25:44,700 --> 00:25:47,420 Let's talk about what went wrong for the Democrats. 321 00:25:47,420 --> 00:25:49,100 Piers Morgan and Ameshia Cross are staying. 322 00:25:49,100 --> 00:25:51,700 Live in San Francisco is Willie Brown, the former mayor of 323 00:25:51,700 --> 00:25:57,540 San Fran who has been a political mentor to Harris 324 00:25:57,540 --> 00:26:00,420 and briefly went out with her many years ago. 325 00:26:00,420 --> 00:26:02,580 And Lakshya Jain from the election modelling 326 00:26:02,580 --> 00:26:08,900 organisation Split Ticket. 327 00:26:08,980 --> 00:26:14,140 First of all, what was Kamala Harris talking about their? She was trying 328 00:26:14,140 --> 00:26:20,780 to bring about a level of what passing the torch would be, but also 329 00:26:20,780 --> 00:26:23,420 keeping people engaged in the process because obviously she is 330 00:26:23,420 --> 00:26:29,780 talking to her supporters. People unfortunately who had stood outside 331 00:26:29,780 --> 00:26:33,700 Howard University since 2pm yesterday, were out there until 332 00:26:33,700 --> 00:26:37,500 probably around 11:30pm in waiting. They did not see the results they 333 00:26:37,500 --> 00:26:41,700 wanted to see and they think her message was conciliatory, one that 334 00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:47,820 was supposed to give them hope and not give up about a country that can 335 00:26:47,820 --> 00:26:52,060 move forward and be what you envisioned. She must be absolutely 336 00:26:52,060 --> 00:26:56,380 devastated in private, broken? I think anybody would be that loses an 337 00:26:56,380 --> 00:26:59,460 election but I think she is someone who is a very formidable force and 338 00:26:59,460 --> 00:27:04,420 we saw the writing on the wall. We also those numbers coming in earlier 339 00:27:04,420 --> 00:27:07,620 than expected and at the end of the day she is interested in what a 340 00:27:07,620 --> 00:27:13,140 peaceful transfer of power would look like. And let's talk about the 341 00:27:13,140 --> 00:27:18,340 demographics, because she didn't get as many women voters as Joe Biden in 342 00:27:18,340 --> 00:27:23,740 2020. What is going on? That was a bit of a surprise for every observer 343 00:27:23,740 --> 00:27:28,620 who had seen Democrats make gains among the demographic following the 344 00:27:28,620 --> 00:27:34,620 reversal of Roe V Wade and following the heavy messaging put in on 345 00:27:34,620 --> 00:27:38,140 abortion and on women's rights in general so it was a little bit of a 346 00:27:38,140 --> 00:27:41,740 surprise. What is even more noticeable is the gap was bigger 347 00:27:41,740 --> 00:27:46,540 among women of colour and men of colour than it was among white men 348 00:27:46,540 --> 00:27:54,100 in white women. That was quite surprising. What do you mean? The 349 00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:57,620 gender gap between white women and white men was considerably narrower 350 00:27:57,620 --> 00:28:02,300 than the gender gap between women of colour and men of colour. That was 351 00:28:02,300 --> 00:28:10,020 notable and to how starkly die divergence was. 45% of Hispanic and 352 00:28:10,020 --> 00:28:13,780 let you know voters went for Trump. He is pushing those numbers up, how 353 00:28:13,780 --> 00:28:21,620 come? This comes down to a couple of things. A lot of times in the last 354 00:28:21,620 --> 00:28:25,220 decade Democrats misdiagnosed what the Latino and Hispanic community 355 00:28:25,220 --> 00:28:30,220 really wanted. They said they wanted progressivism and liberalism and 356 00:28:30,220 --> 00:28:35,220 interest it seems like pocketbook and cheque-book issues motivate them 357 00:28:35,220 --> 00:28:38,540 more during times of high inflation and there is nothing to condemn the 358 00:28:38,540 --> 00:28:43,180 community on for that, and Democrats really focused on the wrong things 359 00:28:43,180 --> 00:28:47,620 with that group and have been focusing on the wrong things since 360 00:28:47,620 --> 00:28:52,220 2016 when Hillary Clinton hit her high water marks. Why do you think 361 00:28:52,220 --> 00:28:55,420 when traditionally let you know voters vote for the Democrats, they 362 00:28:55,420 --> 00:29:00,620 have moved on so many numbers for Donald Trump? Two reasons, one the 363 00:29:00,620 --> 00:29:05,820 economy. Like every other community they are feeling the pinch 364 00:29:05,820 --> 00:29:09,020 financially, the cost of living crisis has been raging for years. 365 00:29:09,020 --> 00:29:14,300 The inflation has not gone away meaning prices are already 366 00:29:14,300 --> 00:29:19,020 incredibly high, 20% up in most categories. And continue to tick up 367 00:29:19,020 --> 00:29:24,100 and up and up even as inflation has come down. And also immigration. 368 00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:26,740 Just because they are Latino it doesn't mean they don't actually 369 00:29:26,740 --> 00:29:32,020 have a view, as it turns out, that illegal immigration being out of 370 00:29:32,020 --> 00:29:35,220 control on the board there is a slap in the face to many in their 371 00:29:35,220 --> 00:29:38,980 community who came into America perfectly legally and dead at the 372 00:29:38,980 --> 00:29:42,620 right way, so certainly picking up a sense of that from some of the 373 00:29:42,620 --> 00:29:46,860 interviews. But I would also add Kamala Harris was a singularly 374 00:29:46,860 --> 00:29:49,780 uninspiring candidates start to finish. Somebody who didn't get 375 00:29:49,780 --> 00:29:53,260 anywhere when she tried to run the first time round as a Democrat 376 00:29:53,260 --> 00:29:59,100 nominee. Went out very early on, and she was a pretty poor vice 377 00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:03,060 President, pulling incredibly low for most of her time as Joe Biden's 378 00:30:03,060 --> 00:30:06,260 number two. A weird coronation which for a party that keeps banging on 379 00:30:06,260 --> 00:30:11,100 about Trump being a threat to democracy, they just coordinated her 380 00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:14,180 as the new nominee when they should have had a convention that works out 381 00:30:14,180 --> 00:30:19,300 to the best candidate can be. And all we have had since, with the 382 00:30:19,300 --> 00:30:22,460 exception of the debate where I thought she beat Trump, but all the 383 00:30:22,460 --> 00:30:25,700 interviews she has given just a load of endless word salad gibberish and 384 00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:30,860 we so much more of that again in her speech. It was perfectly OK and she 385 00:30:30,860 --> 00:30:34,500 said all the right fluffy things but what did it mean? It really meant 386 00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:40,980 nothing. What do you mean by the fight goes on? You just lost the 387 00:30:40,980 --> 00:30:44,460 fight spectacularly badly. This is one of the worst performances by any 388 00:30:44,460 --> 00:30:47,460 Democrat nominee in living memory and I think the reason is that she 389 00:30:47,460 --> 00:30:51,500 was asked what would you do different to Joe Biden and she said, 390 00:30:51,500 --> 00:30:54,860 absolutely nothing. So all the problems of that administration were 391 00:30:54,860 --> 00:30:58,780 immediately her is to take accountability for, and she couldn't 392 00:30:58,780 --> 00:31:01,700 articulate what her view for the country was going to be. And whether 393 00:31:01,700 --> 00:31:06,580 you love or hate Donald Trump he was able to ram home messages about the 394 00:31:06,580 --> 00:31:10,780 economy and about immigration and the big picture themes of his which 395 00:31:10,780 --> 00:31:13,620 were crystal clear and people went to the ballot box knowing what they 396 00:31:13,620 --> 00:31:18,340 were voting for. 397 00:31:18,340 --> 00:31:22,340 Willie Brown, there was a long list of criticism that the Kamala Harris. 398 00:31:22,340 --> 00:31:26,660 You know her well, you were her political mentor. Who bears 399 00:31:26,660 --> 00:31:33,660 responsibility for this crushing defeat? Well, let me be clear that 400 00:31:33,660 --> 00:31:38,580 the criticism of the campaign conducted by the Democrats since 401 00:31:38,580 --> 00:31:42,980 June of this year till their defeat last night, or I should set our 402 00:31:42,980 --> 00:31:50,500 defeat last night, all the criticism is clearly warranted. Under no 403 00:31:50,500 --> 00:32:00,660 circumstances where we as prepared for the jolt of having to become a 404 00:32:00,660 --> 00:32:04,780 candidate different from that who had potentially been a candidate for 405 00:32:04,780 --> 00:32:10,900 a whole year. It's impossible to put together your team. You inherit so 406 00:32:10,900 --> 00:32:19,060 many people who are already part of a group who were ready to get Biden 407 00:32:19,060 --> 00:32:23,580 into operation in such a way to be competitive. Kamala Harris did not 408 00:32:23,580 --> 00:32:28,860 have that opportunity. All the criticism by virtue of these 100 409 00:32:28,860 --> 00:32:33,820 days of judging her is clearly warranted. It will never happen 410 00:32:33,820 --> 00:32:41,060 again. So Joe Biden should have stepped down way earlier? It sounds 411 00:32:41,060 --> 00:32:47,700 like that is what you are saying. The appropriate way in which Joe 412 00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:57,900 Biden should have operated probably would have been the 21st of January 413 00:32:57,900 --> 00:33:04,260 2021, when he got elected, he clearly should have said, my four 414 00:33:04,260 --> 00:33:08,100 years are going to be to make America a place for everybody, a 415 00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:15,980 place with love and care, a place with growth in the value of people's 416 00:33:15,980 --> 00:33:18,780 assets, a place for greater education and greater health care 417 00:33:18,780 --> 00:33:24,740 and at the end of that four years, I'm going to go and do what I want 418 00:33:24,740 --> 00:33:29,900 to do with my family and friends. And I will only consider coming back 419 00:33:29,900 --> 00:33:34,300 if I'm asked come back. Mr Brown, Joe Biden has just released a 420 00:33:34,300 --> 00:33:39,900 statement. Let me read some of it our audience. "What America saw 421 00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:42,780 today was the Kamala Harris I know and admire. She has been a 422 00:33:42,780 --> 00:33:47,180 tremendous partner and public servant with integrity, courage, 423 00:33:47,180 --> 00:33:50,700 character. Under extraordinary circumstances" - the only reference 424 00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:55,700 to what happened in the summer - "She stepped up and embodied what is 425 00:33:55,700 --> 00:34:00,060 possible when guided by a strong moral compass and guided by a vision 426 00:34:00,060 --> 00:34:05,540 for a nation that is more free". No reference to a massive defeat and no 427 00:34:05,540 --> 00:34:09,500 reference to the fact that perhaps he stayed around too long, Ameshia 428 00:34:09,500 --> 00:34:13,860 Cross? He is the still the sitting president of the United States. He 429 00:34:13,860 --> 00:34:20,220 is not going to mention the vote tally or which states were and were 430 00:34:20,220 --> 00:34:23,540 not in play. That would be out of lockstep with how presidents respond 431 00:34:23,540 --> 00:34:27,420 in cases like this. This is not the first sitting president who has lost 432 00:34:27,420 --> 00:34:31,820 in an election cycle and he will not be the last, but he had to say 433 00:34:31,820 --> 00:34:35,660 something. We will probably not hear from him about this again until he 434 00:34:35,660 --> 00:34:43,020 is out of office. Lakshya Jain, what should the Democrats learn from this 435 00:34:43,020 --> 00:34:46,340 defeat in terms of inspiring a coalition of voters and talking to 436 00:34:46,340 --> 00:34:51,540 Republican voters and listening to them ahead of the next US 437 00:34:51,540 --> 00:34:56,100 presidential election? There are a couple of takeaways they can take 438 00:34:56,100 --> 00:35:01,300 from this. But the first lesson should be to internalise that trends 439 00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:04,820 are not fixed. You cannot assume voters are part of your coalition 440 00:35:04,820 --> 00:35:07,100 and that coalitions are much more malleable than anybody wants to 441 00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:13,340 admit. Seven years ago, no one on planet Earth would have thought 442 00:35:13,340 --> 00:35:17,940 Donald Trump would get 45% of the Latino vote. If you understand that 443 00:35:17,940 --> 00:35:22,500 voters are far more movable, you can reach out to them with something 444 00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:27,620 that appeals to them. You can look at the economic issues that motivate 445 00:35:27,620 --> 00:35:32,140 them. You can see what they have reacted against, but until you 446 00:35:32,140 --> 00:35:35,940 realise that votes are there for you to get and that you cannot take 447 00:35:35,940 --> 00:35:39,900 votes for granted, that another party can say, we offer something 448 00:35:39,900 --> 00:35:43,980 more, that your voters can feel dissatisfied, they are not going to 449 00:35:43,980 --> 00:35:47,500 get better. So they have to learn that there voters can go for the 450 00:35:47,500 --> 00:35:51,700 other party, but also that they can get them back. They can get the 451 00:35:51,700 --> 00:35:57,020 white working class voters that Obama lost, even. Piers Morgan, this 452 00:35:57,020 --> 00:36:04,140 is something that bewilders people in the UK and elsewhere. 72 million 453 00:36:04,140 --> 00:36:09,460 can vote for a convicted felon who tells lies, with a history of sexual 454 00:36:09,460 --> 00:36:15,860 assault. Explain. Well, let's take the conviction. Donald Trump was the 455 00:36:15,860 --> 00:36:20,500 first American president in history to ever be dragged through a 456 00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:24,340 criminal court and be convicted of a crime. What was that crime? The 457 00:36:24,340 --> 00:36:28,100 crime was that he shuffled a bit of paperwork over an alleged one night 458 00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:36,820 stand that he still denies with a porn star 18 years ago. No, I am not 459 00:36:36,820 --> 00:36:41,740 going to let you get away with that. It was 34 counts of falsifying 460 00:36:41,740 --> 00:36:47,180 business records in the run-up to the 2016 campaign, found guilty. You 461 00:36:47,180 --> 00:36:53,420 can't just dismiss that. Here is my response. I thought the whole thing 462 00:36:53,420 --> 00:37:00,300 was a joke. It doesn't matter whether you think it was a joke. Let 463 00:37:00,300 --> 00:37:04,340 me finish! When Bill Clinton, a Democrat president, was a sitting 464 00:37:04,340 --> 00:37:08,140 president, he had sex with an intern in the Oval Office and lied about it 465 00:37:08,140 --> 00:37:14,620 to the American people. He also paid off Paula Jones, £850,000 to settle 466 00:37:14,620 --> 00:37:17,900 a sexual harassment case. So there is a clear double standard which was 467 00:37:17,900 --> 00:37:22,980 not lost on the American people. It was an absurd overreach to drag an 468 00:37:22,980 --> 00:37:26,100 American president through a criminal court over something so 469 00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:31,420 trivial, and so did the American people. The general weaponisation of 470 00:37:31,420 --> 00:37:35,140 the justice system against Trump, you can chart the way his polls 471 00:37:35,140 --> 00:37:39,020 began to go upwards from the moment that started, and they kept going 472 00:37:39,020 --> 00:37:46,220 the more times he was dragged into court. 473 00:37:46,220 --> 00:37:50,380 court. And now he is president, nothing is going to happen about it. 474 00:37:50,380 --> 00:37:57,300 He is due to be sentenced at the end of November. The American people 475 00:37:57,300 --> 00:38:00,700 just were not buying it. If you look at all the polling on the Stormy 476 00:38:00,700 --> 00:38:04,580 Daniels case, they mostly thought it was a joke. So you can weaponise the 477 00:38:04,580 --> 00:38:09,860 system against him, you can try and put him in jail, but all it did was 478 00:38:09,860 --> 00:38:13,780 help get Trump a massive majority. So from a political point of view, 479 00:38:13,780 --> 00:38:18,900 it was a spectacular act of self-harm by the Democrats. Ameshia 480 00:38:18,900 --> 00:38:24,860 Cross is laughing at what you are saying. What is going to happen with 481 00:38:24,860 --> 00:38:28,780 the sentencing for the charges for falsifying business records? It is 482 00:38:28,780 --> 00:38:33,980 due at the end of November. His new York charges would continue to go 483 00:38:33,980 --> 00:38:39,060 on. The rest of them are all but dead. He was charged in real 484 00:38:39,060 --> 00:38:45,060 multiple jurisdictions with various different cans. The felony counts he 485 00:38:45,060 --> 00:38:48,940 had and convictions he had in New York will come to bear. But a lot of 486 00:38:48,940 --> 00:38:52,900 the strength were now begun because he is again going to walk into the 487 00:38:52,900 --> 00:38:59,140 presidency. These are of course court sketches of Donald Trump in 488 00:38:59,140 --> 00:39:03,100 court. Thank you, all of you. 489 00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:05,020 So how does Donald Trump see America's relationship 490 00:39:05,020 --> 00:39:06,940 with the rest of the globe during his 491 00:39:06,940 --> 00:39:07,980 second Presidential term? 492 00:39:07,980 --> 00:39:10,620 Here's what he had to say during the Presidential campaign back 493 00:39:10,620 --> 00:39:16,860 in September, when he met Ukrainian President Zelensky. 494 00:39:16,940 --> 00:39:22,180 He seemed certain he was going to win this week. We have a very good 495 00:39:22,180 --> 00:39:26,500 relationship, and I also have a good relationship with President Putin 496 00:39:26,500 --> 00:39:33,980 and if we win, we are going to get a result quickly. I hope we have more 497 00:39:33,980 --> 00:39:42,020 good relations. It takes two to tango, you know. We are going to 498 00:39:42,020 --> 00:39:46,620 have a good meeting today. We are going to sit down and discuss it. If 499 00:39:46,620 --> 00:39:52,500 we have a win, I think long before January the 20th, before I would 500 00:39:52,500 --> 00:39:59,740 take the presidency on January the 20th, we can work out something that 501 00:39:59,740 --> 00:40:05,500 is good for both sides. And by the way of the President knows that too. 502 00:40:05,500 --> 00:40:13,980 He wants to get something done. He doesn't want to do this. Piers 503 00:40:13,980 --> 00:40:17,500 Morgan, what does this victory mean for President Zelensky of Ukraine 504 00:40:17,500 --> 00:40:25,060 and the Ukrainian people? It is hard. Trump is a deal-maker, not an 505 00:40:25,060 --> 00:40:28,260 ideologue. I also know because he has told me repeatedly that he 506 00:40:28,260 --> 00:40:32,460 thinks was are bad for business. He comes at this from a business 507 00:40:32,460 --> 00:40:36,540 perspective, not from ideology. He will want to do a deal because he 508 00:40:36,540 --> 00:40:40,620 recognises, as most people do and are looking at what has happened in 509 00:40:40,620 --> 00:40:43,460 Ukraine this year, that it has reached an ugly stalemate with 510 00:40:43,460 --> 00:40:47,620 endless deaths every day on both sides and something has to be 511 00:40:47,620 --> 00:40:52,700 sorted. It can't go on like this unless you want to see endless 512 00:40:52,700 --> 00:40:56,740 people being killed in a meat grinder scenario and a stalemate. So 513 00:40:56,740 --> 00:41:00,940 I think he feels there is a deal to be done. I don't know what 514 00:41:00,940 --> 00:41:06,420 conversations he has had with Zelensky, but knowing Trump and what 515 00:41:06,420 --> 00:41:10,740 a big ego he has, it is unlikely that the first act he would want to 516 00:41:10,740 --> 00:41:14,660 do as president, and he said he would sort this before he even gets 517 00:41:14,660 --> 00:41:18,820 inaugurated, would be to give Vladimir Putin a win. That is not in 518 00:41:18,820 --> 00:41:23,980 Trump's DNA to allow that to happen or to allow "Putin gets win on 519 00:41:23,980 --> 00:41:28,580 Trump's watch" in his first year. So a deal may be done that the 520 00:41:28,580 --> 00:41:31,540 Ukrainians have to stomach to end the bloodshed. All of us would like 521 00:41:31,540 --> 00:41:35,580 to see the war ended. A similar thing may happen with Israel and the 522 00:41:35,580 --> 00:41:40,380 war with Hamas. Trump is coming in at a time when the world would like 523 00:41:40,380 --> 00:41:44,900 both of those was to be brought to an end, and he is a deal-maker. 524 00:41:44,900 --> 00:41:47,100 Let's introduce Gordon Sondland. 525 00:41:47,100 --> 00:41:48,780 Gordon Sondland served as President Trump's ambassador 526 00:41:48,780 --> 00:41:51,900 to the EU during his first term, and David Frum is a political 527 00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:52,940 commentator for The Atlantic. 528 00:41:52,940 --> 00:41:54,620 He wrote speeches for President George W 529 00:41:54,620 --> 00:41:56,540 Bush, but today you quit the Republican Party 530 00:41:56,540 --> 00:42:00,980 in protest at Trump's victory. 531 00:42:00,980 --> 00:42:08,580 Why? I campaign for Ronald Reagan in 1980 and for George W Bush. I'm a 532 00:42:08,580 --> 00:42:12,340 free trader but I believe in alliances and I believe we are a 533 00:42:12,340 --> 00:42:15,340 strong presence in the world to uphold American values. The 534 00:42:15,340 --> 00:42:19,220 Republican Party has clearly said it is opposed to everything I have ever 535 00:42:19,220 --> 00:42:24,060 believed in, so I don't belong there. Mr Sunderland, will the 536 00:42:24,060 --> 00:42:28,340 Ukrainians have to stomach some sort of deal and will it mean Vladimir 537 00:42:28,340 --> 00:42:32,460 Putin can keep the territory he has in Ukraine? Firstly, I'm 538 00:42:32,460 --> 00:42:37,020 disappointed to lose David because the party is evolving. I don't think 539 00:42:37,020 --> 00:42:41,100 it has put everything in the garbage that you believe in, but that's for 540 00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:44,180 another time. As far as Ukraine is concerned, I don't believe for a 541 00:42:44,180 --> 00:42:50,340 minute that Donald Trump wants another flare-up during his term. I 542 00:42:50,340 --> 00:42:54,180 believe he is going to back Zelensky. He will sit down with 543 00:42:54,180 --> 00:42:57,140 Putin and make a half-hearted attempt to make a deal which will go 544 00:42:57,140 --> 00:43:01,420 nowhere and he is going to let Zelensky use the weapons he has got 545 00:43:01,420 --> 00:43:06,100 that the Biden administration provided him. So when he said he 546 00:43:06,100 --> 00:43:11,460 could sort this in 24 hours, what did he mean? That was campaign talk. 547 00:43:11,460 --> 00:43:17,340 So that was rubbish? It wasn't a lie. What was it, then? When he 548 00:43:17,340 --> 00:43:22,220 says, I'm going to do something in 24 hours, he means, I am not going 549 00:43:22,220 --> 00:43:26,660 to let this become a protracted issue. I am going to move 550 00:43:26,660 --> 00:43:30,140 decisively. Nothing can get done in 24 hours. So we shouldn't believe 551 00:43:30,140 --> 00:43:34,980 what comes out of his mouth? It has always been hyperbole. I think he 552 00:43:34,980 --> 00:43:38,460 was telling the truth. He will settle this quickly and the only way 553 00:43:38,460 --> 00:43:41,900 it can be settled quickly is by betraying Ukraine and forcing 554 00:43:41,900 --> 00:43:47,380 Ukraine to surrender and seek terms with Russia was that it's not like 555 00:43:47,380 --> 00:43:52,620 this is theoretical. We know what he recently did. At Trump's 's behest, 556 00:43:52,620 --> 00:43:56,780 his party, for nine months, blockading aid to Ukraine and 557 00:43:56,780 --> 00:44:00,660 Israel. Thousands of Ukrainian soldiers died as a result of the tax 558 00:44:00,660 --> 00:44:06,660 a blockade, because he has made it clear. Maybe it is not ideology. As 559 00:44:06,660 --> 00:44:10,220 Piers Morgan said, he is not ideological, but there is a 560 00:44:10,220 --> 00:44:14,180 connection between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin. The nature of that 561 00:44:14,180 --> 00:44:18,620 connection is unclear, but it is intense. It is one of the most 562 00:44:18,620 --> 00:44:23,900 consistent thing about him. He has always done what Putin wants since 563 00:44:23,900 --> 00:44:27,620 he entered public life. I could not disagree more. There is no 564 00:44:27,620 --> 00:44:36,460 connection. Most of his predecessors condemned Putin the way the 565 00:44:36,460 --> 00:44:41,220 orthodoxy requires, and Putin sits in the Kremlin laughs. What Trump 566 00:44:41,220 --> 00:44:45,620 does is the opposite. He compliments poor, which puts Putin back on his 567 00:44:45,620 --> 00:44:49,900 heels. Why is this guy paying fealty to me? But then in private, in 568 00:44:49,900 --> 00:44:53,660 telephone calls and meetings, he says, don't go into Vladimir, -- 569 00:44:53,660 --> 00:44:58,380 don't go into Ukraine, Vladimir, or I will have to bomb the crap out of 570 00:44:58,380 --> 00:45:04,420 you. So is it not possible, the way Mr Sondland described it? He will 571 00:45:04,420 --> 00:45:11,340 threaten Vladimir Putin. Privately. Privately, fine. So you are saying 572 00:45:11,340 --> 00:45:16,020 Mr Putin will go, I don't want to be threatened by you, Donald, I admire 573 00:45:16,020 --> 00:45:21,020 you, I'm going to withdraw Russian forces from Ukraine? It is too late 574 00:45:21,020 --> 00:45:27,660 now. What do you mean? Now that Biden has allowed to happen what is 575 00:45:27,660 --> 00:45:32,980 happening by talking about minor incursions, which gave the Russians 576 00:45:32,980 --> 00:45:37,900 the green light to invade. Just remember, Vladimir Putin's factory 577 00:45:37,900 --> 00:45:44,780 default setting was, I am getting Ukraine was that are you suggesting 578 00:45:44,780 --> 00:45:50,340 he is going to let Putin keep Crimea and east of Ukraine? It is going to 579 00:45:50,340 --> 00:45:56,740 be far more nuanced. The war is not about territory, is about the 580 00:45:56,740 --> 00:45:59,380 existence of an independent Ukrainian state with an independent 581 00:45:59,380 --> 00:46:06,660 foreign policy. 582 00:46:06,660 --> 00:46:10,780 Trump has never seen anything as relationships of mutual benefit, he 583 00:46:10,780 --> 00:46:13,740 sees it as predation. He doesn't believe in free trade and everything 584 00:46:13,740 --> 00:46:21,060 has a winner or loser. With the Zelensky he blackmailed him. I gave 585 00:46:21,060 --> 00:46:26,300 no such testimony before Congress. His relationships with other 586 00:46:26,300 --> 00:46:32,540 partners is going to be predatory. What Donald Trump understands with 587 00:46:32,540 --> 00:46:36,180 the United States is the opposite of what Ronald Reagan said. He sees it 588 00:46:36,180 --> 00:46:40,940 as a country entirely without a moral dimension. When Bill O'Reilly 589 00:46:40,940 --> 00:46:45,140 asked him about the moral dimension he said, we are killers too, we are 590 00:46:45,140 --> 00:46:49,700 just like Russia. That is the way he sees the powers of the world. He 591 00:46:49,700 --> 00:46:57,340 wants to be one of the great powers, he sees himself as a master. People 592 00:46:57,340 --> 00:47:00,940 voted for him because they don't want words either, they don't want 593 00:47:00,940 --> 00:47:05,740 to be spending dollars in Ukraine. They want to protect, someone to 594 00:47:05,740 --> 00:47:10,060 look out for US interests. We can't ever get into the aggregation of 595 00:47:10,060 --> 00:47:14,220 what 70 million people do but we don't know why they did what they 596 00:47:14,220 --> 00:47:19,180 did but we know what they're going to get. Tariffs, the crackup of the 597 00:47:19,180 --> 00:47:22,700 American alliance system, the abandonment of Ukraine. He doesn't 598 00:47:22,700 --> 00:47:29,500 have to pull out of Nato but he is going to do again what he did as 599 00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:32,580 president in 2016 saying if Russia attacks on Estonia I will not defend 600 00:47:32,580 --> 00:47:37,220 it. That is it. And what was the result, Nato upping defence 601 00:47:37,220 --> 00:47:42,980 spending. Europe is going to need its own nuclear deterrent because it 602 00:47:42,980 --> 00:47:47,980 cannot trust the United States. Let me interject. Jens Stoltenberg in a 603 00:47:47,980 --> 00:47:51,260 moment of candour said the best views collector I have ever had and 604 00:47:51,260 --> 00:47:56,820 that sums it up. The problem with David's worldview is first of all 605 00:47:56,820 --> 00:48:03,740 you can never take Donald Trump literally. You just can't. The 606 00:48:03,740 --> 00:48:08,940 hyperbole is baked in. Your point, which is the right one, leave aside 607 00:48:08,940 --> 00:48:13,780 the rhetoric and what actually happened to? During his four-year 608 00:48:13,780 --> 00:48:17,500 term our borders were generally secure, black unemployment was at an 609 00:48:17,500 --> 00:48:22,460 all-time low, interest rates were at an all-time low, inflation was at 610 00:48:22,460 --> 00:48:26,460 about zero, and our enemies believed when we threaten them. That 611 00:48:26,460 --> 00:48:30,780 disappeared. I wrote speeches for the president. There is no 612 00:48:30,780 --> 00:48:34,180 difference between words and deeds, a president's words are his deeds 613 00:48:34,180 --> 00:48:37,460 and if his words are not credible and he does not say what he means 614 00:48:37,460 --> 00:48:42,340 then he has deprived himself of his most important tool. Donald Trump 615 00:48:42,340 --> 00:48:48,580 does say what he means. He is a predator, he opposes free trade and 616 00:48:48,580 --> 00:48:53,300 alliances, he sees the world is one of the strong and the weak, and he 617 00:48:53,300 --> 00:48:59,620 doesn't see allies and partners. He only sees suckers to be used. Piers 618 00:48:59,620 --> 00:49:03,740 Morgan, you sound sanguine about Ukraine and the Donald Trump's 619 00:49:03,740 --> 00:49:09,060 approach. I want to put the words of Malcolm Turnbull to you, former 620 00:49:09,060 --> 00:49:11,980 Australian Prime Minister. Regarding Trump's view of Vladimir Putin he 621 00:49:11,980 --> 00:49:17,420 said he is like an admiring 12-year-old boy, it is creepy. He 622 00:49:17,420 --> 00:49:22,860 has called him a genius and savvy, is Trump's description of Putin, you 623 00:49:22,860 --> 00:49:28,020 don't worry about that? What did Putin do on Trump's watching his 624 00:49:28,020 --> 00:49:35,740 first term as president? Nothing. I judge actions not words. He had 625 00:49:35,740 --> 00:49:43,420 already invaded Crimea. Hang on, he invaded Crimea in 2014. Not under 626 00:49:43,420 --> 00:49:46,660 Donald Trump and then Donald Trump comes in and does nothing about it. 627 00:49:46,660 --> 00:49:52,820 My point is this, he didn't invade Ukraine when Trump was president. 628 00:49:52,820 --> 00:49:57,980 That might be a total coincidence or it might be because actually Trump 629 00:49:57,980 --> 00:50:01,180 has these guys like Xi Jinping and Kim Jong-un in a strange place where 630 00:50:01,180 --> 00:50:04,620 he wants to be friendly to them in public but perhaps they find him 631 00:50:04,620 --> 00:50:09,380 unpredictable and are not quite sure what he may do if they pull any 632 00:50:09,380 --> 00:50:13,380 levers on him. In relation to Nato, very important to remember what 633 00:50:13,380 --> 00:50:16,780 happened. Trump said Nato would become obsolete if the members 634 00:50:16,780 --> 00:50:22,660 didn't pay their dues. The media ran with what I knew was a disingenuous 635 00:50:22,660 --> 00:50:26,220 interpretation, that he wanted to get rid of Nato. What he said was 636 00:50:26,220 --> 00:50:29,780 why should America keep paying the lion's share of natal money, which 637 00:50:29,780 --> 00:50:35,260 they do anyway, to defend all these countries immediately. And in the 638 00:50:35,260 --> 00:50:38,900 end what happened, exactly what we discussed. The member countries now 639 00:50:38,900 --> 00:50:44,500 pay their dues which makes Nato stronger and not obsolete, so again 640 00:50:44,500 --> 00:50:48,700 tone take everything Trump says in the moment literally. Judge him on 641 00:50:48,700 --> 00:50:53,980 his actions. You keep taking him literally, it is a euphemism for a 642 00:50:53,980 --> 00:50:57,900 percentage of GDP spending. I am sorry to be so old-fashioned that I 643 00:50:57,900 --> 00:51:04,980 take literally what politicians say. Very naive, Victoria. The Europeans 644 00:51:04,980 --> 00:51:10,860 all joke that the Europeans enjoy an incredible lifestyle and an 645 00:51:10,860 --> 00:51:15,500 incredible social safety net, thanks largely to the US largest being the 646 00:51:15,500 --> 00:51:20,540 main benefactor of Nato. If that were not to occur, if Europe had to 647 00:51:20,540 --> 00:51:23,940 shoulder that burden on their own, and I am not suggesting they should 648 00:51:23,940 --> 00:51:28,900 and I'm not suggesting we withdraw from Nato or even reduce our own 649 00:51:28,900 --> 00:51:33,860 commitment, but where are they to do that, all of a sudden instead of 650 00:51:33,860 --> 00:51:40,060 spending 2-3% of GDP they would have to spend 8-9%. It is not just about 651 00:51:40,060 --> 00:51:43,180 Europe, Donald Trump said he regarded Taiwan is impossible to 652 00:51:43,180 --> 00:51:46,660 defend. It is not just Europe and not just Mexico, which he said he 653 00:51:46,660 --> 00:51:52,260 would attack and fire missiles at, and his Vice President-elect said 654 00:51:52,260 --> 00:51:58,180 the same thing. But he has made it clear that Taiwan is going to be on 655 00:51:58,180 --> 00:52:03,380 its own so allies around the world that he has met, because he is mad 656 00:52:03,380 --> 00:52:06,780 at them for selling is great computer chips. It is not just 657 00:52:06,780 --> 00:52:09,460 European allies but all American allies especially democratic ones 658 00:52:09,460 --> 00:52:15,180 who take bribes. Thank you very much for being back with his Newsnight 659 00:52:15,180 --> 00:52:18,340 and talking to our British viewers. We appreciate your time. 660 00:52:18,340 --> 00:52:20,940 Earlier this week I spoke to Robert and Erica Nix - 661 00:52:20,940 --> 00:52:22,860 a married couple who were split on the 662 00:52:22,860 --> 00:52:24,300 issue of who to vote for. 663 00:52:24,300 --> 00:52:32,260 Here's what they had to say. 664 00:52:32,340 --> 00:52:39,260 I and in the garden of the Philadelphia home of Robert and 665 00:52:39,260 --> 00:52:44,620 Erica Nix. Tell our viewers the unusual thing about you. I have been 666 00:52:44,620 --> 00:52:51,460 a lifelong Republican for 44 years and I am voting for Harris at this 667 00:52:51,460 --> 00:52:57,860 time. I voted for Trump in 2016 but I am voting for Biden in 2020 and 668 00:52:57,860 --> 00:53:03,660 Harris in 2024. I will come back to you. Tell our viewers about 669 00:53:03,660 --> 00:53:09,580 yourself. I voted for Reagan after much research in the 80s and I have 670 00:53:09,580 --> 00:53:16,540 remained a devout Republican. I think she has fallen victim, the 671 00:53:16,540 --> 00:53:20,180 same as the MAGA movement, when you drink the Kool-Aid you will see 672 00:53:20,180 --> 00:53:25,220 nothing else but that. We all watched it on January the 6th, the 673 00:53:25,220 --> 00:53:28,180 world seeing us turn into a banana republic is what it looked like to 674 00:53:28,180 --> 00:53:29,340 me. 675 00:53:29,340 --> 00:53:32,700 And I'm pleased to say Robert and Erica are with me again now - 676 00:53:32,700 --> 00:53:38,940 has your relationship survived the past 24 hours? 677 00:53:39,020 --> 00:53:44,540 We survived. We cancelled out each other's votes yesterday but we 678 00:53:44,540 --> 00:53:54,780 survived. And how did you react, to the result? For me of course it was 679 00:53:54,780 --> 00:53:59,660 very disappointing. It is not so much disappointing in the fact that 680 00:53:59,660 --> 00:54:04,060 he won again but that so many of my fellow countrymen voted for him for 681 00:54:04,060 --> 00:54:07,620 a second term in office. Back to me is disappointing and scary, the 682 00:54:07,620 --> 00:54:14,860 direction of where we are heading as a nation. I don't even think he 683 00:54:14,860 --> 00:54:17,740 represents the Republican party, more of a far right ultranationalist 684 00:54:17,740 --> 00:54:21,100 movement and we have fallen for it. I heard David speaking before you 685 00:54:21,100 --> 00:54:25,660 and I agree with him, exactly like him except I stayed a Republican and 686 00:54:25,660 --> 00:54:30,820 I will try and stay defects of the party. I am more of the Liz Cheney 687 00:54:30,820 --> 00:54:38,220 republic and that this point, on the outside but not giving up. 688 00:54:38,300 --> 00:54:42,060 outside but not giving up. He is not giving up on the party that you 689 00:54:42,060 --> 00:54:46,260 support, the leader that you support, who has changed the 690 00:54:46,260 --> 00:54:47,980 Republican party beyond comprehension, according to your 691 00:54:47,980 --> 00:54:56,780 husband. Yes. We will welcome him back if he decides to leave. I don't 692 00:54:56,780 --> 00:55:00,980 think the Republican party has changed all that much. I think we 693 00:55:00,980 --> 00:55:06,260 still hold conservative values and I think Donald Trump represents that 694 00:55:06,260 --> 00:55:09,940 in some ways but the majority of Trump voters that I know were more 695 00:55:09,940 --> 00:55:15,900 concerned about the idea of putting America first. Stop giving money to 696 00:55:15,900 --> 00:55:19,980 foreign words that we have no business being involved with, 697 00:55:19,980 --> 00:55:26,020 putting money back into our economy, creating some confidence in our 698 00:55:26,020 --> 00:55:30,660 economy and our ability to be independent. I am still the same 699 00:55:30,660 --> 00:55:39,980 Republican I was. I am not a MAGA crook, I am not a Kool-Aid drinker, 700 00:55:39,980 --> 00:55:44,180 just an average person who wants my country to succeed. Thank you, 701 00:55:44,180 --> 00:55:49,980 really appreciate you talking as again. Good luck. 702 00:55:49,980 --> 00:55:52,620 Let's speak to Fred Trump III, Donald Trump's nephew, who has 703 00:55:52,620 --> 00:56:00,540 written a book critical of his uncle and he voted for Kamala Harris. 704 00:56:00,620 --> 00:56:05,660 I did. And earlier this year you told your story on the political 705 00:56:05,660 --> 00:56:11,460 advert. This is my uncle Donald and this is my son William. 706 00:56:39,780 --> 00:56:45,700 How did you feel about that? How would any parent feel about that? 707 00:56:45,700 --> 00:56:52,100 How would somebody feel if a person said that about another human being, 708 00:56:52,100 --> 00:56:58,700 least alone your grand nephew who as I mentioned Donald has never met, 709 00:56:58,700 --> 00:57:05,180 never asked to meet. You have described your uncle as crazy. Our 710 00:57:05,180 --> 00:57:08,100 millions and millions of Americans crazy in your view for voting for 711 00:57:08,100 --> 00:57:18,220 him? I don't understand why many of them do it. I think they want to 712 00:57:18,220 --> 00:57:24,980 believe in what he is selling them, in a way. But that is politics. 713 00:57:24,980 --> 00:57:28,820 Kamala Harris and Donald Trump, they sell policies and voters either vote 714 00:57:28,820 --> 00:57:34,420 for them or don't. I look at the vision as a forward moving thing, 715 00:57:34,420 --> 00:57:38,460 not something that we had a horrible country. America is a great country 716 00:57:38,460 --> 00:57:41,940 and we don't have to make it great again. There are problems, no doubt 717 00:57:41,940 --> 00:57:49,940 about it. What will be going through Donald Trump's mind right now, and 718 00:57:49,940 --> 00:57:54,660 his close family, the people who love and support him? I am not 719 00:57:54,660 --> 00:58:00,260 saying I don't love Donald. He is my uncle, he is my Father's younger 720 00:58:00,260 --> 00:58:05,220 brother. I spent many good times with Donald over the years. What 721 00:58:05,220 --> 00:58:10,860 most people say about my book is that it is a nuanced representation 722 00:58:10,860 --> 00:58:14,100 of Donald. Not a hit piece but a personal accounting of my 723 00:58:14,100 --> 00:58:20,580 relationship with him. Do I disagree with him on policy? Absolutely. I 724 00:58:20,580 --> 00:58:25,340 have always voted Democrat because of policies. Character this year has 725 00:58:25,340 --> 00:58:30,780 really played a role in my decision making. Starting with January the 726 00:58:30,780 --> 00:58:36,620 6th, and leading up to what Donald said not just about William, my son, 727 00:58:36,620 --> 00:58:40,860 but in the Oval Office in 2020 saying that people with disabilities 728 00:58:40,860 --> 00:58:46,860 that are costing the Government money should just die. Fred Trump, 729 00:58:46,860 --> 00:58:50,420 we are out of time, thank you for being with us. 730 00:58:50,420 --> 00:58:54,660 Piers Morgan is still with us. 731 00:58:54,660 --> 00:59:01,420 Maybe see you back in London. My pleasure. Thank you. 732 00:59:01,420 --> 00:59:04,060 Newsnight is back in London with Faisal tomorrow, but that's it 733 00:59:04,060 --> 00:59:05,500 from all of us in Washington. 734 00:59:05,500 --> 00:59:07,420 This has surely been the most dramatic comeback 735 00:59:07,420 --> 00:59:08,460 in US political history. 736 00:59:08,460 --> 00:59:09,500 Four years after leaving 737 00:59:09,500 --> 00:59:12,140 the White House, Donald Trump is set to move back in 738 00:59:12,140 --> 00:59:13,580 after voters gave him another term. 739 00:59:13,580 --> 00:59:16,460 The campaign was one for the history books: he survived two assassination 740 00:59:16,460 --> 00:59:18,620 attempts and President Joe Biden dropped out just months 741 00:59:18,620 --> 00:59:19,660 before election day. 742 00:59:19,660 --> 00:59:27,300 From all of the team, thanks for watching, good night.