本周 Vice This week on "Vice,"
我们追随着波士顿爆炸案 we follow in the footsteps
@（我能做些什么）（我将会杀了所有人）凶手的脚步在达吉斯坦 of the Boston bomber in Dagestan.
然后 在终结日 Then, it's the end of times.
因为主会亲自从天而降 The Lord himself will descend from heaven,
我们尊耶稣为王中之王 and we are going to crown Jesus Christ King of Kings
万主之主 and Lord of Lords.
别拿着那个相机 Don't point that camera, eh?
哦 Oh!
美国在这场国际性的大战中会因为支持以色列 Can America get on the right side of Armageddon
而站在正确的一边吗 by supporting Israel?
我们要和这里的人谈一谈 We're gonna talk to some of the people that were here
关于在达吉斯坦发生的秘密战争 about the secret war that's going on in Dagestan.
俄罗斯联邦中的小小的达吉斯坦@（时间轴不对） The tiny Russian republic of Dagestan
最近经常出现在新闻里 has been in the news a lot lately.
许多美国人第一次听到它 Many in America first heard of it
是在它成为据说是一位波士顿爆炸案凶手 when it became known that one of the alleged Boston bombers,
Tamerlan Tsarnaev 在返回美国前 Tamerlan Tsarnaev, spent 6 months there
在那里待了六个月 然后制造了一次恐怖袭击 before returning to America to carry out this terrible crime.
最近 达吉斯坦的恐怖分子 More recently, Dagestani terrorists
以一系列的自杀式炸弹袭击俄罗斯 attacked Russia in a series of suicide bombings.
现在 这些极端分子同时宣称 Now, these same extremists also vowed
会破坏索契冬奥会举办地周边的安全 to disrupt the Winter Olympics in nearby Sochi,
造成国际上对俄罗斯安保问题的担忧 causing international concerns over Russian security
围绕全球事件 surrounding the global event
@（我们会继续坚持反抗恐怖组织）（而且我们承诺如果他们不被完全消灭 我们就会继续坚持）获得了来自总统普京的严厉回应 and a harsh response from President Putin.
现在 为了理解为什么 Now, in order to understand why
有如此之多的自杀式炸弹在这个国家发生 so many suicide bombers are coming out of this tiny republic
同时第一手的了解Tamerlan Tsarnaev在那里的经历 and to see firsthand what Tamerlan Tsarnaev went through
我们跟随着他的脚步 during his time there, we traveled to Dagestan
来到了达吉斯坦 to follow in his footsteps.
我们到达的第一站是在Makhachkala@（时间轴不对） Our first stop upon arriving in Makhachkala,
达吉斯坦的首府城市 Dagestan's capital city,
与Tamerlan在达吉斯坦的一位熟人 was to meet one of Tamerlan's Dagestani connections
同时对他来说还是某种 who also served as kind of
非官方的宗教导师 an unofficial religious mentor to him
来向我们解释了在他在这里的这段时间内 to explain to us exactly what he experienced
他究竟经历了什么 during his time here.
现在 由于紧张的国际审查关于 Now, due to the intense international scrutiny
爆炸案凶手在达吉斯坦的行为 of the bomber's actions while in Dagestan,
我只在我们同意隐瞒他的身份的情况下 接受采访 he would only speak to us if we agreed to conceal his identity.
我知道Tamerlan Tsarnaev到这来六个月 I know that Tamerlan Tsarnaev came here for 6 months,
大约六个月 在2012年 about 6 months, in 2012.
@（他经常去清真寺）（他学习阿拉伯语）（他对伊斯兰教关于怎样吃和穿的法律 特别感兴趣）（基本上就是 如今达吉斯坦青年人感兴趣的那些）（Makhachkala或者达吉斯坦是在驱动俄罗斯的伊斯兰世界）（这里正进行着伊斯兰教化的进程）（去清真寺人数的激增和反抗的情绪）你认为他在这 学到了什么 What do you think he learned here?
FBI和CIA到这里@（时间轴不对） So the FBI or the CIA came here
想要问你问题 或是直接问你问题 and wanted to ask you questions, or asked you questions.
@（他们盘问每一个认识他的人 每一个）（好表现出 在达吉斯坦有特殊的事情发生）（完全的改变了Tamerlan）（导致了他在波士顿的行为）（他们没问他为什么要这样做）（他们问 他有和森林联系过吗 他和激进分子在一起吗）（原来的想法是 他从美国过来 是要去森林里）你是怎么想的 Why do you think that is?
当他在FBI提问的 Now, when he mentions-- quote, unquote--"The forest"
问题里提到的 森林 in the questions that the FBI asked him,
他指的是 去森林里 what he's referring to is "Going to the forest,"
这是本地的对于加入 which is the local term for joining
在达吉斯坦的伊斯兰起义的称呼 the Islamist insurgency in Dagestan.
这指的是年青人不断的 It refers to young people disappearing
在共和国的偏远山区消失 into the republic's remote mountainous region
而加入了武装分子 而且开始接受洗脑教育 to join the militants and begin their indoctrination
加入伊斯兰圣战 into Islamic jihad...
尽管 有着可怕的后果 which, despite its dire consequences,
@（他们叫他们做亡命之徒 支持他们陷入了绝境 这就像单程票）（一旦他走进了森林 那就完了 他的生命的距离就已注定）但越来越多的达吉斯坦青年 每年都在这么做 more and more Dagestani youth are doing every year.
有一件是我无法理解的 One thing I didn't understand
如果加入了起义 就是一张单程票 is that if joining the insurgency is a one-way ticket--
也就是 你加入了 然后你肯定要死 i.E., you join, and then you die--
那为什么 起义还在年青人之间 then, despite that fact, why is the insurgency
@（当年轻的达吉斯坦穆斯林们 看到现在的体制的无能）（那么这个替换的体制 伊斯兰教法 非常受欢迎）非常的流行 still so popular amongst young people?
为了更好的理解这一切@（时间轴不对） In an effort to understand all of this
我们见了一位当地的伊玛目@注（回教国家对宗教领袖的称号） a bit better, we met with a local imam
他的学生被当局 whose students have been targeted
认为是叛军而作为目标 by the authorities as insurgents
而这座清真寺 我们被告知 正是Tamerlan去的 and whose mosque, we were told, Tamerlan attended.
@（伊斯兰教角阀不仅是给达吉斯坦的 更是给世界的）（因为如此 我们不教除了古兰经 或者穆罕默德言行以外的东西）（我们告诉他们 写在古兰经上的 就是我们的法律）（这是伊斯兰教 所有先知的信仰）你认为这本书里的人 Do you think that the People of the Book,
像基督徒和犹太人 like Christians and Jews,
或世俗的人们都应该皈依伊斯兰教 or secular people should convert to Islam
@（是的 上帝在圣神的古兰经里就是这么说的）（每一个人都应该按照伊斯兰教法生活 成为一名穆斯林）而世界应该由伊斯兰教法统治 and the world should be under Sharia?
只是为了提醒一下 他在这里说的是什么 So, just to be clear, what he is saying here
一 不仅整个世界的人都应该皈依伊斯兰教 is that, "A," Not only in the world convert to Islam,
@（我们对美国 英国 欧洲 和世界上其他地区要说的是）（按照圣神的古兰经行事）二 而且所有人都应该接受伊斯兰教法的统治 but that, "B," They should all be under Sharia law.
安全部队因为这样的言论 Not surprisingly because of messages like this,
而关注伊玛目的追随者 一点也不奇怪 the security forces have targeted the imam's followers.
有没有年青人来到这座清真寺 Are young men who come to this mosque
而被特种部队给带走 being taken away by the Special Forces
@（有很多的警察来这里）（他们监视我们 他们以前常常早上来这 然后将人带走）（许多人都失踪了）而且被拘留 and being detained?
因为很多的青年人被带走 Because young people are being taken
远离家庭 在年青人心中 away from their homes, there's a lot of anger
有很多的怨恨 with the young people,
他们加入了叛军 and they're joining the rebels.
@（政府机关 无论是地方还是联邦）（真的引起了我们年青人的关注）（他们开始折磨 杀害年青人）（他们除了加入森林 没有其他的选择）（他们加入是有原因的 我们不经审判就被杀害）（没有调查 没有审判 他们就是杀了）（当局说这是他们自作自受）这就是在这里所发生的吗 Is this happening here?
警方绑架和拷问这些起义嫌疑人 Police abductions and torture of suspected militants
每天都在发生 are everyday occurrences here.
有无数个这样的事例 There are countless stories of young men
Tamerlan年龄的年青人 被绑架 严刑拷问 around Tamerlan's age being kidnapped, tortured,
在许多情况下 被谋杀 and, in many cases, murdered.
一个青年Sokhrab Abakar就是这样 One such young man is Sokhrab Abakar,
来自Makhachkala的二十三岁出租车司机 a 23-year-old taxi driver from Makhachkala.
我们在一个家庭的房子里 We're here at a house with a family
他们在向我们展示他们儿子的照片 who's showing me pictures of their son,
我在想也许你能告诉我 and I was wondering maybe if you could tell me
@（在三月二十日 他离开了他的家庭）（抛弃了他的妻子 永远也没有回来）在你儿子身上发生的故事 the story of what happened to your son.
在他们儿子失踪后 After their son's disappearance,
家庭从同情者手中拿到了 the family was given cell phone footage
手机录像 清楚的显示 from the sympathizer that clearly shows
他们的儿子在光天化日之下被绑架 their son's abduction in the plain light of day.
你能告诉我在这段录像里发生了什么 Can you tell me what's happening in this--
@（这里是他的车）（他们正在倒车靠近他）（现在这些特工 走出来了）（全部都穿着白衬衫）（只有政府人员穿成那样）（他现在尖叫着 让他们放开他）（他在说 我做了什么）（你为什么在打我）是的 Right.
所以他们从他的车里绑架了他 So they've taken him from his car
然后将他带进这辆车 and put him in this car.
@（他们将他在车里电死了）（那个声音 我认识那个声音）政府不承认他们绑架了他是吗 So they don't admit that they've taken him.
因为没有相关法律 And because there's no law
警察又做出这样的行为 and the police are acting like this,
所以很多年轻人就越来越生气 对吗 are a lot of young people getting angrier?
（更糟糕 如果没有人能找到我哥哥 我该怎么办呢 我会杀光所有人） 因为在和叛乱分子的争斗中 警察用了 Because of the extreme police tactics used
极端的方法 in fighting the insurgents--
例如绑架 折磨 甚至谋杀 such as kidnapping, torture, and murder--
所以他们就成了激进分子经常袭击的 they've become the focus of almost constant attacks
主要目标 by the militants.
这是一栋政府大楼 This building is a government building
之前遭遇了汽车炸弹袭击 that they had a car bomb come and attack.
他们先引爆了小炸弹 They had a little, tiny bomb
把警察全部引过来之后 so that the police would gather around it,
又引爆了一个大的汽车炸弹 then a big car bomb go off.
我们要和经历过这次袭击的人谈一谈 So we're gonna talk to some of the people that were here,
一些前任警察 some of the ex-policemen,
让他们谈谈 为什么会有那么多炸弹 about why there are so many bombings,
为什么警察会是目标 about why police are the targets,
以及发生在达吉斯坦的秘密战争 about the secret war that's going on in Dagestan
这些战争已经迸发到俄罗斯 that's now bleeding out into Russia,
迸发到叙利亚 甚至美国 bleeding out into Syria, and bleeding out into America
就比如波士顿恐怖袭击 to the Boston bombers.
Magomed Shamilov是一个退休的高级警务人员 Magomed Shamilov is a retired senior police officer
他在反对警察机关贪污的过程中 who was fired when he fought against corruption
被开除 within the police force.
为什么激进分子那么生警察的气 Why are the militants so angry at the police?
为什么他们把警察作为目标 （首先 警察自己就在违法 他们绑架人 折磨人 还让人消失 未经审判就直接处决人 这就是为什么人们讨厌他们 反叛者这么做是因为 贪污腐败引起了所有问题 如果警察按法律办事 谁会想要杀人呢 这是国家恐怖主义 恐怖行动就是人们的反应） Why are they targeting the police?
你是个警察 至少以前是 So you're a policeman, an ex-policeman,
你觉得是警察的腐败 saying that the police corruption
和警察对对恐怖主义的战略 and the police terror tactics
导致了反叛者的 are leading to further radicalization
进一步激化 （当嫌疑犯被折磨和羞辱 当一个人的尊严被夺走 那些人是不会原谅这些行为的 只有用血去洗去耻辱） within the rebels.
所以当地警察的腐败导致了 So the local police force being corrupt has led
达吉斯坦的连续暴力循环 to a continuing cycle of violence in Dagestan...
但是更让暴动升温的是 but what ramps up the insurgency even more are the tactics used
俄罗斯特种部队使用的战略 by the Russian Special Forces, or Spetsnaz,
他们高度暴力的反恐技术 whose hyper violent antiterrorist techniques
让人们更加愤怒 have led to even more and more anger from the people,
这样就导致更多达吉斯坦的年轻人 which, in turn, leads to more Dagestani youth
加入恐怖组织 going to the forest.
现在 我们要和一个来自 Now, we wanted to talk to somebody
特种部队的人谈话 不过显然 如果你要和他们说话 from the Special Forces, but, obviously, if you talk to them,
他们就会成为叛乱分子的目标 they become a target of the insurgents.
我们马上要和一个刚刚离开俄罗斯特种部队的人谈话 So we're talking to one who just left the Spetsnaz.
他还有两个兄弟在特种部队里 He still has two brothers in the Spetsnaz.
所以我们会非常小心 不会拍他的脸 So we have to be very careful. We're not gonna show his face.
他只有在匿名的情况下才会和我们谈话 He would only speak to us on the condition of anonymity.
我们在这座城的市郊 We're here on the outskirts of town.
我们要看看在特种部队里发生了什么 We're gonna go see what happens within the Spetsnaz.
可以告诉我们你在特种部队的 Can you tell us your rank and your duties
级别和任务吗 （陆军中校 主要负责反恐行动） when you were in the Spetsnaz?
你觉得为什么会有那么多 Why do you think that there's
恐怖袭击呢 so many terrorist attacks?
在达吉斯坦就有很多 （这里的狂热太明显了 在达吉斯坦 激进分子会狂热地战斗 对战到最后一秒 甚至炸死他们自己 但就是不投降） There's a lot of them here in Dagestan.
我们让指挥官和我们一起看了 So we asked the commander to walk us through
最近特种部队清除一栋公寓里激进分子的视频 a recent Spetsnaz operation to clear an apartment of militants.
好的 Da. OK.
视频里的内容令人震惊 The video we watched together was shocking.
视频展示了2012年十一月的一起武装包围 The video shows an armed siege from November 2012.
一个叫Zamira Tutusheva的女叛乱者 A female insurgent named Zamira Tutusheva
被包围在一间公寓里 had been cornered in an apartment
和她在一起的还有两个激进分子和两个孩子 along with two other militants and her two young children.
为了让她投降 In an effort to get her to surrender,
特种部队让她的父亲和她谈话 the Spetsnaz got her father to plead with her
希望她放弃 （你没有做错什么事吧 快出来 没人会对你怎么样的 带上孩子 我向你保证） （我不想出来） （什么叫你不想出来 难道你不想养大孩子 见证他们的婚礼吗 你难道不想吗） （不 我不想） to give herself up.
Zamira自己拒绝出来 Zamira herself refuses to come out
但是愿意在袭击前 把她两岁的女儿 but is persuaded to give her two-year-old daughter
和五岁的儿子 and 5-year-old son to their grandfather
交给他们的外公 before the attack begins.
现在孩子们出来了 So now that he's got the children out,
我猜他们和特种部队做交易了 I guess they've had a deal with the Spetsnaz
因为特种部队进去了 because now they come in.
像这样的战斗多久发生一次 （很经常） How often do these kind of battles take place?
她的最后一通电话被特种部队记录了下来 Her last phone calls were recorded by the Spetsnaz.
是她的一个朋友 This one is of a friend of hers
建议她哪怕被杀也不要被活捉 （从窗户旁边射击吧 这样你也会被射中 真主保佑 这样他们就不能活捉你们了 真主保佑） advising her to get killed rather than be taken alive.
所以这个女人愿意 So this woman was willing
她的孩子死 to have her children die,
也愿意自杀 and she was willing to kill herself.
你觉得为什么叛乱分子 Why do you think the insurgents
会那么狂热呢 （她知道自己违法了 像她这种情况坐牢对她来说已经很仁慈了 刑期一定会非常长 因为俄罗斯对和恐怖分子相关的案件判刑非常严格） are so fanatical?
现在在达吉斯坦 这样的视频很普遍 Now, videos like this one are ubiquitous in Dagestan
这些视频会刺激更多人加入暴乱 and only serve to recruit more and more people
因为你会在这里找到 into the insurgency because what you have here
一场完美的风暴【不确定】 is a perfect storm.
一方面 这里有想要打造伊斯兰教法下的 On the one side, you have jihadists
伊斯兰国的圣战们 who have the goal of an Islamic state under Sharia law
另一方面 贪污腐败和暴力的警察们 and on the other, a corrupt and hyperviolent
成为了这里圣战们 security services that serve as the perfect opponent
最大的对手 to the jihadis who train here,
因为战斗实在太残忍 and since the fighting is so brutal
风险又非常大 and the stakes are played so high,
所以从这个地区出来的恐怖分子 the terrorist that come out of this region
是以计划完善的自杀式恐怖袭击 are at the core of the best planned
作为主要任务 and most deadly suicide attacks.
啊 Oh!
达吉斯坦似乎变成了一个恐怖分子学校 Dagestan has become a kind of terrorist university
把毕业生送往世界各地 that sends its graduates all over the world,
包括美国 Tamerlan Tsarnaev在波士顿恐怖袭击前 including America, for it was in this environment
就在这种环境下 that Tamerlan Tsarnaev lived for 6 months
生活了六个月 prior to the Boston bombing.
只要这场叛乱风暴 As long as this perfect storm of insurgency
和反叛乱在达吉斯坦继续下去 and counterinsurgency continues in Dagestan,
像Tamerlan这样的恐怖分子 terrorist just like Tamerlan
就会继续从这个地方走出来 will continue to be created here.
巴以冲突是中东 Israeli-Palestinian conflict has been the focal point
地理政治不稳定的重点 of geopolitical instability in the Middle East
一直从1948年以色列建国到现在 since the establishment of Israel in 1948.
虽然大多数国际社会 Although the vast majority of the international community,
像联合国 美国 the UN, and the United States
公开支持“两个国家”解决方案 publicly support a two-state solution
在数十年的谈判后 希望可以结束冲突 to try and end this conflict, after decades of negotiation,
但是最终协议从来没有达成过 a final settlement has never been reached,
犹太国家与阿拉伯世界的紧张局势 and tensions between the Jewish state
反而愈演愈烈 and the Arab world continue to fester.
在此过程中 作为其坚强后盾的美国 Throughout this process, America has remained
坚定的支持以色列 firmly behind Israel as its greatest supporter.
实际上 比起世界其他国家 In fact, Israel receives more U.S. Foreign aid
美国对以色列的国外援助最大 than any other country in the world.
如今 大多数的援助要归功于美国一个 Now, much of this support has been attributed
坚定 富有以及亲以色列的 to a strong, wealthy, and very pro-Israeli lobby
游说团体 这是对的 但想想看 in America, which is true, but you'd think
大多数力量都在这个团体之后 that the majority of the strength behind this lobby
可能会使犹太社会占据美国 would be the Jewish community in the U.S.,
这只是部分正确 因为 反过来 which is only partially correct because, as it turns out,
按照全部人数来说 这个团体力量的大多数 in terms of sheer numbers, the evangelical Christians
是来自美国圣经地带的 from America's Bible Belt make up the majority
基督教福音派信徒 of this lobby's power base.
我们让Thomas Morton去找找原因 So we sent Thomas Morton to find out
为什么一大批来自德州的基督徒 why a bunch of born-again Christians from Texas
如此深爱着犹太国家 are so in love with the nation of Israel.
(现在 大决战) (默基多 以色列) 鈾? 265 00:17: 00:17:20,494
这可能是整部圣经中 This may be the most important prophetic spot
最重要的预知地点 in the entire Bible
(Irvin Baxter 末日部门)因为启示录的 because the final act
最终篇章 of the Book of Revelation
将在这里上演 is going to begin right here
就在这里 at this place.
(托马斯 莫顿 Vice记者)圣经说俄罗斯 The Bible teaches that Russia,
伊朗 埃塞俄比亚 利比亚 土耳其 Iran, Ethiopia, Libya, Turkey,
及其他国家将在联合国的统治下失势 and other nations will come down under a UN flag,
他们将会在这个关口侵略以色列 and they will invade Israel at this particular point.
你能想象成千上万辆坦克 Can you imagine thousands of tanks
在这山谷之中 out here in this valley
轰隆作响打击这里的人民 燃烧这里的土地吗 rumbling, fighting, firing?
你能想象直升机呼啸着飞过我们的头顶吗 Can you imagine jet airplanes screaming overhead?
战争将逐渐猛烈 The battle is going to be fierce.
牧师所描述的这场恐怖的多国战争 The horrific, multinational fighting
就是世界末日大决战 this preacher is describing is the Battle of Armageddon,
一旦以色列成为一个完全的犹太国家 which is supposed to happen right here
战争就可能在此发生 just as soon as Israel is a fully Jewish state,
这就是为什么一大批德州的基督徒 which is why a bunch of Christians in Texas
在上帝的沃土之中成为了最狂热的犹太复国主义者 have become the most fervent Zionists on God's green earth.
(圣安东尼奥市 德克萨斯州)虽然大多数的美国人认为亲以色列游说团体 While most Americans probably think the pro-Israeli lobby
是犹太人的事 实际上 大多数它的支持者 is largely a Jewish thing, actually most of its support
来自圣经带 comes from right here in the Bible Belt,
福音派的基督徒多认为 where evangelical Christians overwhelmingly believe
以色列有权存在 因为上帝如此认为 that Israel has a right to exist because God said so.
(Marcus Lamb 晨星电视台)拿起电话 拨那个号码 Go to the phone right now and call that number
说 "是的 我将要同以色列一起 and say, "Yes. I'm gonna stand with Israel.
"我将要保佑圣经里的人们 "I'm gonna bless the people of the Bible.
保佑上帝选中的人们" I'm gonna bless God's chosen people."
(约翰 哈基 基石教会) 在座的你们 Will those of you in this audience
支持以色列的愿意站起来 who support the state of Israel stand to your feet
为此欢呼吗 and give a shout of support?
虽然绝大多数以色列的财政 While a lot of Israel's financial support
来自犹太人的支持 does come from Jewish wallets,
但是相对于全世界只有1,400万犹太人的支持来说 there are close to 70 million evangelicalin America
将近7千万福音派的美国人 versus less than 14 million Jews worldwide,
则占据了基督徒支持以色列的80% and, given that roughly 80% of these Christians support Israel,
使得美国基督徒是全世界当中 that makes American Christians the largest
最多最大的亲以色列投票者 pro-Israeli voting block in the world,
是犹太社区的4倍 about 4 times the size of the Jewish community on Earth.
基督徒复国主义运动出了大部分资金 There's a lot of money behind the Christian Zionist movement.
就是在我身后的这座教堂 基石教堂 This church behind me, Cornerstone,
它不仅在基督徒中 也在全世界中 is one of the biggest supporters of Israel
最大的以色列支持者 not just among Christians, but in the world.
John Hagee牧师在他任职期间 The pastor here, John Hagee, has raised an estimated $70 millions
筹集了约7000万美元 over the course of his ministry.
他还创立了基督徒支持以色列联盟 Pastor Hagee also founded Christians United for Israel,
简称CUFI 是美国最大的亲以色列游说组织 or CUFI, which is the largest pro-Israel lobbying organization
超过了美国-以色列公共事务委员会AIPAC【不确定是否译成中文】 in America, even bigger than AIPAC,
大多数人认为 the organization most people assumed
控制美国 以色列游说的这个组织 dominates the American Israel lobby
因为它是最大的犹太团体 because it's the biggest Jewish one.
(Ariel Settlement 约旦河西岸) 关于CUFI不确定的是 那么一大笔给以色列的钱 What's dicey about CUFI is that a good deal of their money
(Ofra Settlement 约旦河西岸) 是否花在以色列人民定居地 for Israel is spent on buildings and organizations
(Efrat Settlement 约旦河西岸) 用于建造大楼和组建各种组织 in the Israeli settlements.
这些庞大的犹太社区 These are massive Jewish communities
违背国际法 built well within Palestinian territory
在巴勒斯坦的领土内完好建设 in violation of international law.
这些据点由狂热的犹太复国主义者统治 The settlements are run by some of the most fanatical Zionists
他们坚信这是圣经赋予他们的土地 who believe the Bible entitles them to their land
若他们割让其中任何一块给巴勒斯坦 and that ceding any of it back to the Palestinians
都将违反上帝的旨意 would be a violation of God's law.
上帝给予他们土地 那是他们应得的 God gave them that land. They own that land.
虽然基督徒支持以色列 While there's nothing wrong with Christians
并没有错 但他们的行事方法 supporting Israel, the way these Christians
把他们变成一个 have chosen to do so puts them firmly on one side
以色列与巴勒斯坦冲突的坚定维护者 of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict,
其一 他们直接反抗美国政府的官方政策 one that's directly opposed to the U.S. Government's
(本雅明 内塔尼亚胡 以色列总理) 其二 他们用自己巨大的 official policy, and they're using
政治权利和金钱 their massive political power and money
反对现在正打算推行的 to oppose the peace plan John Kerry
约翰 克里的和平计划 is currently trying to push through.
两国方案将给巴勒斯坦 That's the two-state solution that would give the Palestinians
约旦河西岸和加沙地带 the West Bank and Gaza Strip
剩下的土地属于以色列 and the Israelis would get the rest,
希望这样能终结所有暴力 hopefully ending all the violence.
福音派不仅游说华盛顿【不确定 或者美国政府】 Evangelicals not only lobby Washington
还捐助以色列去抗击两国方案 and send money to Israel to fight the two-state solution.
他们还占了每年去以色列旅游的 They also make up over 40%
总人数的40%之多 of American tourists in Israel every year
去朝圣时期最受欢迎的圣地 with popular Holy Land pilgrimage tours.
(Qarne Shomron Settlement 约旦河西岸) 许多导游实际上 Many of these tours actually have stops
在有居民居住的以色列据点已停止 in the Israeli settlements which are used by the settlers
是为了招徕游客的捐赠 to solicit donations for their cause.
我们现在以色列约旦河西岸的Qarne Shomron We're in Qarne Shomron, Israeli settlement.
将要见到Sondra 在美国 We're about to meet Sondra, who deals with Pastor Hagee
她与Hagee牧师一样 in the United States.
她不是基督徒 She is not a Christian.
只是信仰犹太东正教 那么现在 She's an Orthodox Jew, and right now,
她正在为前来游览这一以色列定居点的 She's hosting a bunch of Christian Australians
澳大利亚基督徒们做讲解 who are touring the settlement
而且 运气好的话 还能让他们出点钱 and, hopefully, coughing up the bills.
为了让这一以色列定居点和 To make the settlements more relatable
她们的基督徒朋友的关系显得更密切 Sondra和她的机构 to their Christian friends, Sondra and her organization
采用了巴勒斯坦领土在《圣经》中的名字 use the Palestinian territories' biblical names
犹地亚和撒玛利亚【地名翻译不确定 下同】 of Judea and Samaria.
这是为了我们 这些信仰《圣经》的人 It is for us, as people who believe in the Bible,
能够坚守犹太民族道德与精神的权利 to stand on the moral and spiritual right
坚守犹地亚和撒玛利亚【】 of the Jewish people to Judea and Samaria.
阿门 Amen?
- 阿门 - 好的 - Amen. - Good.
在Sondra的介绍之后 After Sondra's presentation,
我们又回到车上 自己去参观定居点 we reboarded the bus to see the settlement for ourselves.
大家看这边 Come on, guys.
我想让大家试着打一下 I want you to try to punch him
他的肚子 in the stomach.
来 试一下 Let's give it a try.
不幸的是 我们的阿拉伯邻居 Unfortunately, our Arab neighbors
也有这种枪 also have these kinds of guns.
所以你会需要这样的东西 You need to be protected
来保护自己 with something like this.
基督教的支持有多重要呢 How important is Christian support
尤其是对于定居点来说 specifically for the settlement?
基督教的支持对于在犹地亚和撒玛利亚【】的犹太人来说 Christian support for the Jewish presence
是至关重要的 in Judea and Samaria is critical
因为这一群体人数非常多 because it's a very large group of people
并且散布在世界各地 我们需要倾听 all over the world and we need to hear
他们的声音 而且 感谢上帝 their voices, and--thank God--
他们也越来越多地 they are raising their voices on this issue
就此问题发声 louder and louder every day.
另一位基督教圣地导游 Another Christian Holy Land tour leader【时间轴有误】
是一位福音派牧师Irvin Baxter is evangelical pastor Irvin Baxter,
他的Endtime Ministries[一五旬节圣会组织]【不确定】 whose Endtime Ministries
每年两次组织信众去以色列游览 takes its flock to Israel twice a year.
他们旅行的焦点 正是福音派强烈希望 The focus of their tours is actually the real reason
犹太人控制整个以色列 evangelicals overwhelmingly want the Jews
的真正原因 to control all of Israel,
那是真正的世界末日 即《圣经》中所说的末日之战 which is the actual end times, as in Armageddon,
因为 根据他们对《圣经》的解读 because, according to their interpretation of the Bible,
犹太人控制基督教圣地后 Jewish control of the Holy Land will lead directly
会迎来基督的第二次降临 to the second coming of Christ.
" Armageddon " [指末日之战]一词 实际上是由两部分构成的 The word "Armageddon" Is actually two words--
" 哈米吉多顿 " 或 " 美吉多山 "【不确定】 "Har megiddo," Or "Hill of Megiddo."
你们现在正站在美吉多山上 You are standing on the hill of Megiddo right now.
《启示录》中最后一幕的情景 The final act of the Book of Revelation
将在此展开 is going to begin right here at this place,
《圣经》告诉我们 and when Israel is about to be defeated,
当以色列即将被击败之时 the Bible tells us
耶稣基督将亲自出面干预此事 that Jesus Christ himself will intervene.
《圣经》如是说 It says it this way.
主将亲自从天降临 有呼叫的声音 The Lord himself will ascend【英文有误应为descend】 from heaven with a shout,
和天使长的声音 又有神的号吹响 with the voice of the archangel, with the trump of God.
他将击败基督的敌人 He is going to defeat the antichrist.
他将击败虚假的先知 He's going to defeat the false prophet.
他们都会被活活投入火海 Both of them will be cast alive into the lake of fire.
当此之时 撒旦将被 At that time, Satan is going to be bound
封印一千年 for the next 1,000 years,
而我们将拥立耶稣基督 and we are going to crown Jesus Christ
为众王之王 万主之主 as King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
@(在那个时候马里兰州会发生什么)很快 我会花一点时间解答大家的一些问题 Real quickly, I will take time for a few questions.
好吧 我无法肯定地回答你 Well, I can't tell you for sure
马里兰州那时候还在么 if Maryland will still be there or not?
除了末日之战外 In addition to Armageddon,
Baxter牧师的旅游团还去到了其他所有 Pastor Baxter's Endtimes tour hits all the other
和《启示录》有关的当地景点 local attractions associated with the apocalypse,
包括地球上最具争议的地方 including the most contested piece of real estate
耶路撒冷 这里涵盖了一些对于 on the planet--Jerusalem, which houses some
犹太人 穆斯林 及基督徒等都 of the more【英文有误应为most】 sacred sites for Jews,
最为重要的宗教圣地 Muslims, and Christians alike.
这里也是末日之战的华丽终场时 It's also were【英文有误应为where】 Jesus lands at the grand finale
耶稣将降临的地方 然而这对于犹太人来说并不乐观【不确定】 of the end times, which doesn't pan out so great for the Jews.
2/3的以色列人将死去 2/3 of Israel will die.
这是《撒迦利亚书》第13章中所说的 我记得大约在第7 8 9节 It's Zechariah 13, I think-- maybe verse 7, 8, 9,
就在那一块 上面说2/3的以色列人都会死去 right in that area-- that 2/3 will die.
1/3将被带离火海 1/3 will be brought through the fire,
那1/3随后都会归附救世主弥赛亚 and that 1/3 will then turn to Messiah en masse
据《圣经》所说 当他返回之时 when He comes back, and the scripture says
他们会向他奔去 that they will run out to Him,
而当他们向他鞠躬致意时 and when they bow to worship Him,
据《撒迦利亚书》中所说 他们将会注意到他的 Zechariah 13:6 says they're gonna notice He has got wounds
足与手有伤 in His feet and in His hand,
然后他们将会问 " 你是耶稣么 " and they're gonna say, "You're Jesus?
" 噢 弥赛亚 我们曾那么固执 "Oh, Messiah, we've been so stubborn.
我们曾那么自负 我们曾那么盲目 "【此处引号应去掉】We've been so proud. We've been so blind.
您还能原谅我们么" 随后 存在2000年之久的障目之叶 Could you ever forgive us?" And 2,000 years of blindness
将从犹太人的眼前除去 is gonna come peeling off the Jewish mind,
而我们这些被鼓舞起来的人 and those of us that have been up,
会无比的欣喜 会跟随耶稣来到这里 caught up in the rapture and come with Jesus here--
哦 因为基督徒们 Oh, because the Christians
被鼓舞起来了【不确定】 have been raptured out.
所有得以重生的人 都会被鼓舞起来 All who are born again will have been raptured.
当耶稣到来之时 我们会被召唤 When Jesus comes, we'll be called up
到他身边 在空中于他相见 随后我们会和他一起 to meet Him in the air, and then we will come
去到橄榄山 with Him to the Mount of Olives,
随着犹太人归附与他们的弥赛亚 and so we're gonna be watching
我们将一起见证 this whole panoramic thing unfold
这一盛况拉开帷幕 as the Jewish people turn to their Messiah.
在那时 我们将会使 We're gonna be converting people
数十万人 by the hundreds of thousands
皈依 during this time.
那将会是最伟大的时刻 It's gonna be the best of times
也将会使最艰难的时刻 and the worst of times.
然而2/3的犹太人死亡 这确实是 While the 2/3 of Jews who die are definitely getting【时间轴有误】
" 最艰难的时刻 " the "Worst of times" End of the stick,
在牧师描绘的末日景象中 世界上其它地方在经历着些什么 it's a little less clear how the rest of the world fares
有些不太清楚 in the pastor's end-of-days scenario.
美国通过支持以色列 Can America get on the right side of Armageddon
能够在末日之战中找准立场么 by supporting Israel?
美国人可以告知【立法机关】 Americans can let their legislatures know,
支持以色列 support Israel.
如今在奥巴马政府掌权下 Right now under the present Obama administration,
离开以色列在某种程度上似乎成了一种趋势 there seems to be a drift somewhat away from Israel,
至少是一种强迫以色列 at least a determination to force Israel
对美国俯首称臣的决心 to do what America thinks it should do.
@(耶路撒冷 以色列)以色列作为 The only way for Israel
【犹太民主国家忍耐并茁壮成长的】 to endure and thrive as a Jewish
唯一途径 and democratic state
【就是建立】 is through the realization
一个独立自主 of an independent
富有生机的巴勒斯坦 and viable Palestine.
犹太人会说 The Jewish people
看 这是承诺给我们的土地 should say, "Look. This is our promised land.
圣经上说我们不应该放弃 "The Bible says we should not give it up.
所以我们就坚持到底 "So we're not giving it up.
你们必须尊重我们的宗教 You have to respect our religion."
除了暗自阻挠另一 Aside from potentially derailing
相当可靠的和平计划之外 an otherwise pretty solid peace plan,
【基督教认为】 Christian support for the Israeli settlements
【毗邻巴勒斯坦】 further makes life a pain in the ass
【以色列的定居会让生活更痛苦】 for the Palestinians living nearby,
比特杰拉就正发生着这样的事 which is exactly what's happening at Beit Jala,
那是一个座落在耶稣出生地伯利恒郊区 a Palestinian village on the outskirts of Bethlehem
的巴勒斯坦村庄 where Jesus was born.
巴勒斯坦解放组织官员Xavier Abu Eid Xavier Abu Eid is also Christian as well as an official
也是一名基督教徒 in the Palestinian Liberation Organization.
我们在天主教会 We met him at a weekly outdoor Mass
【为抵抗以色列入侵而举行的】 put on by the Catholic church
【每周一次的露天弥撒中遇见他】 as a form of protest against Israeli encroachment.
两年前 一个以色列法院决定 Two years ago, an Israeli court decided
把一堵墙建在我们所处的地方 to build the wall here where we are.
所以基本上 你现在看到的所有山谷 So basically, all this valley that you see here,
都将属于墙那边的以色列 it's going to be on Israeli side of the wall.
嗨 你好 Hello. How are you?
嘿 你好 Hey, how are you?
打个比方 他是58个将要 For example, he is one of the 58 landowners
失去自己领地的地主之一 that are going to lose their land here
也是58个将要失去自己领地的 and are 58 Palestinian Christian families
巴勒斯坦基督教家庭之一 that are going to lose their land here,
你谈论的不是移居这里的 and you're not talking about immigrants
移民问题 that came here.
不 你谈论的是这片土地上的 No. You're talking about indigenous population
土著居民问题 of this land.
我们现在所处的地方 We are standing now over a territory
世界上没有一个国家 that no one in the world,
即使是美国 not even the U.S.,
也不承认这是属于以色列的领地 recognizes as part of Israel.
我认识很多信福音主义者 I know a lot of evangelicals.
现在美国很多人都支持以色列 It's really big in America right now to support Israel
因为他们说 圣经上写道 because, they say, "Well, the Bible says
【以色列归属于犹太人】 Israel belongs to the Jews,"
他们之中很大一部分人还笃信 and a lot of them also believe
一旦犹太人接管了以色列 that once the Jews take over all of Israel,
他们就将迎来世界末日的善恶大决战 then they get to have Armageddon.
我读过圣经 但我从没看到 I read the Bible, and I never saw
圣经中说过上帝是房地产经纪人 the Bible says that God is a real estate agent.
这些基督教犹太复国主义组织 Those Christian Zionist organizations,
实际上他们并没有把钱 they are not giving money, actually,
给以色列这个国家 to the state of Israel.
他们把钱给了 They are giving money
【大多数意识形态上的移民者】 to the most ideological settlers,
当然 我认为 and, of course, I don't think
那不是基督教的做法 that's a very Christian act.
@(荣耀归于父 子 和圣灵)(阿门)如果我是巴勒斯坦基督教徒 If I were a Palestinian Christian,
我不会让自己牵涉进这场冲突中 I wouldn't involve myself in this conflict.
我会置身事外并说 I'd stay out of it and say, "Look.
看 我知道将要到来的是什么 "I know what's coming.
我将侍奉耶稣 "I'm gonna serve Jesus Christ.
当他来临 "When He gets here,
他会将一切都修正 He'll straighten all this out."
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Baxter对在场基督教徒的建议 While Baxter's advice for Christians on the ground
总的来说就是踏踏实实地 is basically just to bunker down
对不可避免的事做好准备 and get ready for the inevitable,
他和他在美国的基督教犹太复国运动拥护者 he and his fellow Christian Zionists in America
正尽一切努力让世界末日成为现实 are working full tilt to make the end of days a reality
他们还利用这些拥护者的投票权 and are using the voting strength of their followers
【试图使华盛顿支持他们】 to try and get Washington on their side...
字幕 and
在一场被巴勒斯坦和以色列两地的 in a political conflict that's already been hijacked
宗教狂热分子操控的政治冲突中 by religious zealots on both the Palestinian
再牵涉入数百万 and Israeli side, adding millions
为世界末日做准备的美国信福音主义者 of doomsday-ready American evangelicals to the table
无异于 is like pouring gas on a fire
在世上最易燃的地区火上浇油 in the most flammable region in the world.