THEY WILL CONTINUE TO CARRY
VINYL RECORDS.
THAT'S IT FOR US FROM
WASHINGTON. 7
WE WILL SEE YOU TOMORROW NIGHT.
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Tucker: GOOD EVENING AND
WELCOME TO TUCKER CARLSON
TONIGHT.
WE HAVE EXCLUSIVE REPORTING
ON HOW GOOGLE MAY BE
STALKING YOU, TRACKING YOUR
EVERY MOVE.
EVEN IF YOU THINK YOU
KNOW HOW SURVEILLANCE
CAPITALISM WORKS.
THIS WILL SHOCK YOU, IT
SHOCKED US.
WE HAVE AN INVESTIGATION
GOING UP IN A MINUTE.
WE WANT TO START WITH THE
BIGGEST NEWS DEVELOPMENT OF
THE DAY.
THERE IS STILL NO EVIDENCE
THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN COLLUDEDD
WITH VLADIMIR PUTIN.
HUNDREDS OF JOURNALISTS AND
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATORS, TENS
OF MILLIONS OF TAXPAYER
DOLLARS MORE THAN YEAR
RELENTLESS SEARCHING THAT
HAS BASICALLY SHUT THE
GOVERNMENT DOWN.
IN THE END, NOTHING.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE
HAVEN'T LEARNED A GREAT DEAL
ABOUT HOW OUR GOVERNMENT
ACTUALLY WORKS.
WE HAVE.
JUST TODAY ANOTHER TROVE OF
FBI TEXT MESSAGES BECAME
PUBLIC.
LAST NIGHT THE SENATE
RELEASED A CRIMINAL REFERRAL
TO THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT
AGAINST CHRISTOPHER STEELE.
HE'S THE SHADOWY AUTHOR OF
THE TRUMP DOSSIER.
SO THERE IS AN AWFUL LOT
GOING ON.
HERE'S SOME OF THE MOST
SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENTS IN
THE LAST 24 HOURS.
NOW, YOU REMEMBER IN THE
SPRING OF 2016, PRESIDENTN
OBAMA WAS ASKED IF THE
PUBLIC COULD HAVE CONFIDENCE
THAT HIS ADMINISTRATION
WOULD NEVER TAMPER WITH THE
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.
HE RESPONDED
UNEQUIVOCALLABLY QUOTE, I
GUARANTEE THAT THERE NO
POLITICAL INFLUENCE IN ANY
INVESTIGATION CONDUCTED BY
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT OR
THE FBI IN ANY CASE, FULL
STOP, PERIOD.
THAT SOUNDED DEFINITIVE.
AND, YET, NEWLY RELEASED FBI
TEXTS SUGGEST THAT MAY BE
FALSE.
JUST FIVE MONTHS AFTER OBAMA
MADE THAT CLAIM, FBI
ATTORNEY LISA PAGE TEXTED
SENIOR AGENT PETER STRZOK
WITH WHOM SHE WAS HAVING AN
AFFAIR TO SAY, THIS QUOTE:
POTUS WANTS TO KNOW
EVERYTHING WE'RE DOING.
NOW, KEEP IN MIND AT THE
TIME THAT PAGE WROTE THE
HILLARY CLINTON
INVESTIGATION HAD BEEN
CLOSED BUT THE INVESTIGATION
OF DONALD TRUMP HAD BEGUN.
THE FBI CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD
THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS
WATCHING CLOSELY.
THAT'S THE HEADLINE FROM
TODAY'S BATCH OF TEXTS.
THERE ARE MANY MORE TEXTS ON
THE WAY.
REMEMBER THOSE FIVE MONTHS
OF TEXT MESSAGES HAVE
SOMEHOW LOST THEY HAVE
SOMEHOW BEEN FOUND.
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE HAS
THEM AND CONGRESS IS WAITING
TO GET THEM.
YOU CAN EXPECT MORE
REVELATIONS TO COME.
LAST NIGHT AS WE SAID THE
SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
RELEASED A REDACTED VERSION
OF CRIMINAL REFERRAL DOSSIERRY
AUTHOR CHRISTOPHER STEELE A
CAREFULLY WRITTEN DOCUMENT
AND PACKET WITH INFORMATION.
GOT FAR LESS ATTENTION THAN
THE NOW FAMOUS DEVIN NUNES
MEMO BUT MAY TELL US MUCH
MORE.T
FOR EXAMPLE, THE SENATE MEMO
RELEASED LAST NIGHT EXPLAINSNS
HOW CHRISTOPHER STEELE
DELIBERATELY MISLEAD THE FBI
ABOUT THE DOSSIER HE
ASSEMBLED.
STEELE TOLD FEDERAL
INVESTIGATORS HE HAD NOT
SPOKEN TO ANY MEDIA OUTLETS
ABOUT HIS RESEARCH.
IN FACT, HE HAS SPOKEN TO
MANY OF THEM, INCLUDING THE
"NEW YORK TIMES," "THE
WASHINGTON POST," YAHOO
NEWS, THE NEW YORKER AND
CNN.
THAT'S NOT FORGETFULNESS.
IF THIS MEMO IS ACCURATE,
STEELE LIED TO THE FBI.
AND THAT'S A FEDERAL CRIME.
BUT MAYBE MORE IMPORTANT,
THANKS TO STEELE'S
DECEPTION, THE FBI RELIED ON
A YAHOO NEWS REPORT TOBI
VERIFY THE DOSSIER WHEN, IN
FACT, THE YAHOO STORY WAS
ITSELF SIMPLY CITING THEOO
DOSSIER.
CIRCULAR.
IT WOULD BE PRETTY FUNNY IFR.
IT WEREN'T SO INCOMPETENT.
YET, HERE IS THE STRIKING
THING.
EVEN AFTER THE FBI LEARNED
THAT STEELE WAS LYING TO
THEM.
THIS THEY CONTINUED TO USE
HIS DOSSIER TO JUSTIFY
SPYING ON CARTER PAGE.
AS THE SENATE MEMO MAKES
CLEAR, THERE ARE ONLY TWO
POSSIBLE EXPLANATIONS FOR
THIS.
EITHER THE FBI LIED TO THE
FISA COURT BY SAYING STEELE
HAD NOT SPOKEN TO
JOURNALISTS BEFORE OCTOBER
OF 2016, THAT'S ONE.
OR, TWO, STEELE LIED TO THE
FBI AND IS THEREFORE A
DISCREDITED SOURCE.
NEITHER ONE IS GOOD.
BOTH ARE BAD.
THERE IS MORE.
THE SENATE MEMO DESCRIBES
STEELE AS SLOPPY AND
RECKLESS RESEARCHER, INTENSE
PARTISAN WITH PASSIONATELY
LEFT-WING VIEWS ABOUT
AMERICAN POLITICS WHOEN
INCLUDED UNSOLICITED,
UNVERIFIED ALLEGATIONS IN
HIS ASSESSMENTS YOU,
APPARENTLY SOME OF THOSE
ALLEGATIONS CAME FROM
HILLARY CLINTON'S OWN
ASSOCIATES, THAT'S THAT F
SEEMS ODD SINGS THE CLINTON
CAMPAIGN WAS HELPING TO PAY
FOR THE DOSSIER IN THE FIRST T
PLACE.
THERE YOU GO.
AS MEMO PUTS IT DRY
UNDERSTATEMENT.
ALL OF THIS QUOTE RAISES
ADDITIONAL CONCERNS ABOUT
STEELE'S CREDIBILITY.
YEAH, THAT'S FOR SURE.
IN FACT, IT'S HARD TO SEE
HOW ANY FAIR PERSON COULD.
DISAGREE WITH THAT SENTENCE.
YET, FOR SOME REASON, THE
FBI SEEM TO HAVE NO CONCERNS
ABOUT STEELE'S CREDIBILITY.
HIS WORK, THE DOSSIER
APPEARS TO FORM THE BASIS OF
THIS ENTIRE INVESTIGATION.
IF THERE IS MORE EVIDENCE
OUT THERE THAT POINTS TO
COLLUSION DURING THE 2016
CAMPAIGN, WE HAVEN'T SEEN
IT.
WE HAVEN'T EVEN HEARD.
WHISPERS OF IT AT A MOMENT
LIKE THIS LEAKS ARE THE
REALM.
PRIMARY WAY PEOPLE
COMMUNICATE INFORMATION,
IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE WE
HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANY OTHERAR
EVIDENCE.UN
SO MAYBE THERE ISN'T ANY.
IS THE STEELE DOSSIER THE
ENTIRE THING ALL THEY HAVE
GOT
THE STEELE DOSSIER
SEEMS TO ME THE REASON WE
ARE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION
IN THE FIRST PLACE.
THAT DOES NOT INSPIRE
CONFIDENCE.
CONGRESSMAN MATT GETZ IS A
REPUBLICAN REPRESENTING THE
STATE OF FLORIDA.
HE JOINS US TONIGHT.
THANKS FOR COMING ON.
GOOD TO BE ON, TUCKER.
Tucker: I WANT TO POINT
OUT A STORY WE HAD ON LAST
NIGHT THE DAILY MAIL BROKE.
THE LEAD ON THE RUSSIA PROBE
IN THE HOUSE AMONG DEMOCRATS
WAS SUCKERED IN A PRANK
PHONE CALL INTO BELIEVING
THAT THE UKRAINIAN GROUP HAD
NAKED PICTURES PRESIDENT
TRUMP WAS REPORTEDLY HAVING
AN AFFAIR WITH HE THEN
DISPATCHED RESEARCHER OR
AIDE ON THE COMMITTEE TO
CALL BACK THE NUMBER AND SET
UP A DOCUMENT DROP AT THE
UKRAINIAN EMBASSY.
THAT SEEMS LIKE A
SIGNIFICANT STORY.
IT'S NOT BEING COVERED
TODAY.
DO YOU THINK THAT'S A
MEANINGFUL THING TO KNOW?
ABSOLUTELY, TUCKER.
ADAM SCHIFF SHOULD STEP
ASIDE AS THE LEAD DEMOCRAT
ON THE INTELLIGENCE
COMMITTEE AS A CONSEQUENCE
OF THIS SCANDAL.L.
WHILE OUR FBI AND JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT WERE SUFFERING
THROUGH AN OBAMA NATION, AN
OBAMA INFLUENCE WITH THESE
ATEEMPTS TO INFLUENCE
INVESTIGATIONS, HAD YOU ADAM
SCHIFF OFF PLAYING FOOTIES
WITH THE UKRAINIANS TRYING
TO GET NAKED PICTURES OF
DONALD TRUMP.
ADAM SCHIFF HAS GONE WITH
SOMEONE WITH OVERSIGHT
RESPONSIBILITIES TO AN
ACTUAL PRINCIPLE IN THIS
INVESTIGATION ENGAGING IN
THE UKRAINIANS AND I THINK
FOR BETTER OBJECTIVITY, HE
OUGHT TO STEP ASIDE.
Tucker: CORRECT ME IF I
AM WRONG, AND I'M REALLY
TRYING TO BE OPEN-MINDED
BECAUSE MAYBE TRUMP COLLUDED
WITH PUTIN.
I'M WAITING FOR THE
EVIDENCE.
BUT THE ALLEGATION APPEARS
TO BE THIS.
THAT TRUMP'S ASSOCIATES,
INCLUDING ONE OF HIS
CHILDREN, SPOKE TO A RUSSIAN
LAWYER IN AN EFFORT TO GET
DAMAGING INFORMATION ON THE
OTHER CAMPAIGN, ON A
POLITICAL RIVAL, HILLARY
CLINTON.
ADAM SCHIFF IS BASICALLY
ADMITTED THAT HE SOUGHT
DAMAGING CAMPAIGN POLITICAL
RIVAL FROM A FOREIGN
GOVERNMENT.
WHY IS THAT DIFFERENT?OL
WELL, EVEN MORE ANALOGOUS
WOULD BE JEFF SESSIONS..
JEFF SESSIONS WAS TALKED
INTO RECUSING HIMSELF
BECAUSE OF A HAND SHAKE IN A
GREETING LINE.
HERE YOU HAVE ADAM SCHIFF
ENGAGING WITH UKRAINIANS
TRYING TO DIG UP DIRT ON THE
PRESIDENT WITH SEEMINGLY NO
INTEREST IN WHETHER OR NOT
THE INFORMATION IS TRUE OR
FALSE OR DOCTORED.
IF YOU USE THE SAME STANDARD
APPLIED TO SCHIFF HE SHOULD
HAVE NO ROLE AS A LEAD ON
THIS ISSUE.
IF YOU LOOK AT HIS
CREDIBILITY WITH THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE, IT'SK
ERODED.
I MEAN, IT WAS ONLY A FEW
WEEKS AGO ADAM SCHIFF SAYING
IF WE RELEASED THE NATIONAL
SECURITY MEMO THERE WOULD BE
NATIONAL SECURITY
CATASTROPHE THAT'S BEEN
PROVEN TO BE FALSE.
TIME AND AGAIN HE HAS LOST
CREDIBILITY.
THE FACT THAT HE ACTIVELY
ENGAGED WITH UKRAINIAN A
PRINCIPLES.
THE FACT THAT HE GOES ON
RUSSIAN
SPONSORED TELEVISION CHANNEL TO
TALK ABOUT OUR INTELLIGENCE
SYSTEM CERTAINLY INDICATES
THAT ADAM SCHIFF SHOULD STEP
ASIDE.
Tucker: THAT'S THE LEVEL
OF HYPOCRISY THAT WOULD
REALLY EMBARRASS MOST
PEOPLE.
IF YOU ARE CALLING FOR A
PRESIDENT TO LEAVE OFFICE
BASED ON CHARGES, STANDARDS T
THAT YOU YOURSELF VIOLATEDED
WOULDN'T YOU LOOK AT
YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR AND
SAY THAT'S TOO HYPOCRITICAL?
WHY DOES NANCY PELOSI
THINK.
AS SHE WAS CALLING FOR DEVIN
NUNES TO BE RELEASED AS
INTELLIGENCE CHAIRMAN EVEN
THOUGH THERE WAS AN
INVESTIGATION THAT CLEARED
DEVIN NUNES THAT FOUND HE
DID NOTHING WRONG.
ADAM SCHIFF CLEARLY ENGAGING
IN SHADY TACTICS AND NANCY
PELOSI SPENT HER 8 HOURS ONNG
THE FLOOR WITH A DIFFERENT
RAMBLING NARRATIVE.
Tucker: REALLY QUICK ARE F
WE OUT ON A LIMB SUGGESTINGRA
THAT THE DOSSIER SEEMS TO BE
THE CORE DOCUMENT THAT
SPURRED THIS INVESTIGATION?
IS THERE OTHER EVIDENCE THAT
YOU KNOW OF?
I HAVE SEEN NO OTHER
EVIDENCE.
THE REASON YOU KNOW DOSSIER
IS THE CORE PIECE OF
EVIDENCE BECAUSE THEY HAD TO
HAVE CHRISTOPHER STEELE GO
PLANT NEWS ARTICLES TO H
VALIDATE THE DOSSIER.
THE VERY AUTHOR OF THE DOSSIER
HAS TO CREATE AND
MANUFACTURE OTHER FAX TO
VALIDATE THE DOSSIER IT
CANNOT VALIDATE ITSELF..
IT HAS NO MECHANISM TO BE
PROVEN TRUE BECAUSE IT'S ALL
FALSE.
Tucker: FRESHMAN
PHILOSOPHY CLASS.
YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT THOUGH.
CONGRESSMAN, THANK YOU.HY
THANK YOU, TUCKER.
Tucker: STEVEN COHEN IS
PROFESSOR EMERITUS OF
RUSSIAN STUDIES AND POLITICS S
AT NYU AND PRINCETON, A
CONTRIBUTING EDITOR OF THE
NATION MAYBE THE MOST FAMOUS
RUSSIAN SCHOLAR IN THE
UNITED STATES.
HE JOINS US TONIGHT.
PROFESSOR, THANKS FOR COMING
ON.
SO, AM I MISSING -- I JUST
WANT TO BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR
BECAUSE I THINK THIS HELPS
INFORM HOW WE SEE THIS
INVESTIGATION.
ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY OTHER
EVIDENCE AT ALL OF COLLUSION
BETWEEN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN
AND RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT OTHER
THAN THE DOSSIER?
NO.
NONE.
BUT, THERE ARE TWO DOCUMENTS
THAT BECAME THE FOUNDATIONAL
SOURCES FOR THE KREMLIN GATE
NARRATIVE.
IT WAS FIRST THE STEELE
DOSSIER WHICH SURELY K
INFORMED THE SO-CALLED
INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY
ASSESSMENT IN JANUARY OF
2017.
WE WERE TOLD THAT WAS THE
JUDGEMENT OF 17 INTELLIGENCE
AGENCIES.
IT NOW TURNS OUT TO HAVE
BEEN THE JUDGMENT OF NO
INTELLIGENCE AGENCY.
JUST A FEW GUYS AT THE TOP.
THAT'S ALL THAT'S EVER BEEN
PRODUCED AND IT'S NOT
CREDIBLE. A
Tucker: WHAT ABOUT, WE
KNOW THAT DOSSIER WAS AT
LEAST PART OF THE RATIONALE
FEW OF THE WARRANT THAT
ALLOWED THE FEDS TO SPY ON
CARTER PAGE.
DO YOU THINK OTHER PEOPLE IN
TRUMP'S ORBIT DURING THE
CAMPAIGN WERE SPIED ON BY
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT?
OH, I DON'T KNOW.GN
THE ARTICLE I JUST PUBLISHEDY
IN THE NATION I ASKED THAT
QUESTION.
WE NEED TO FIND OUT.T.
I MEAN WHY DID THEY, FOR
EXAMPLE, GET A WARRANT ON
CARTER PAGE, WHO ON THE VERY
SURFACE OF IT, IS NO THREAT
TO AMERICAN NATIONAL
SECURITY.
AND THEN ON PAUL MANAFORT.
WE MIGHT ASSUME THEY DID IT
BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT THESE
TWO MEN WOULD BE CLOSE, EVEN
IN THE SAME ROOM WITH DONALD
TRUMP.
AND WANTED TO SURVEIL HIM.
BUT, LET ME JUST MAKE ONE
POINT, CARTER -- TUCKER.
WHAT INTERESTS ME IS NOT WHO
PAID FOR THE DOSSIER.
WE KNOW IT WAS THE CLINTON
CAMPAIGN.
Tucker: RIGHT.
BUT WHERE STEELE GOT THIS
INFORMATION.
IN THE ARTICLE I WRITE, I
SUGGEST THAT IT'S HIGHLY
UNLIKELY HE GOT IT FROM HIS
SO-CALLED CONNECTIONS IN THE
KREMLIN.
NOW, THERE'S A TEMPT
UNDERWAY TO REHABILITATE
STEELE.
ON THE FRONT PAGE OF "THE
WASHINGTON POST" TODAY THEREAT
IS A STORY THAT PORTRAYS HIM
AS A CHARACTER OF THE SPY.
HE MAY WELL BE.
A MAN WITHOUT A PURPOSE IN LIFE.
RETIRED AT AN EARLY AGE AND FOR
HIRE.
THIS IS THE GUY WHO NOWW
ENTERS OUR LIFE AND USED AND
LARGER QUESTION THAT COMES
TO MY MIND BUT YOU KNOW THE
ANSWER BETTER THAN I DO IS
HOW MANY BRANCHES OF
GOVERNMENT DO WE ACTUALLY
HAVE?
I WAS TAUGHT WE HAD THREE.
WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON ABOVE,
WITH THE INTELLIGENCE
SERVICES AND NOT ONLY THE
FBI, RAISES THE QUESTION IS
THERE IS A FOURTH BRANCH OF
GOVERNMENT THAT'S INFLUENCES
NOT ONLY OUR POLITICIANS BUT
BECAUSE THEY WERE LEAKING TO
THE MEDIA, WHAT WE VOTERS
THINK WHEN WE GO TO VOTE.
Tucker: DO YOU THINK THAT
THE INFORMATION IN THE
DOSSIER AND YOU ARE A
CREDIBLE PERSON TO ASK THIS
OF.
DO YOU THINK IT'S CREDIBLE?
I MEAN, DO YOU THINK IT'S
REAL?HI
DO YOU THINK IT CAME FROM
REAL SOURCES?S
IT CAN BE VERIFIED?
IT HASN'T YET BEEN DO YOU
THINK IT WILL BE OR HAS IT
BEEN MADE UP.
WE HAVE TO
DECONSTRUCT IT. I
SOME OF IT IS TRUE BECAUSE
HE GOT IT FROM OPEN SOURCES
FROM NEWSPAPERS.
I MEAN, WAS IT REALLY A
MYSTERY?Y
WHEN I WAS IN MOSCOW OVER
THE YEARS I KNOW DONALD
TRUMP WANTED TO GO TO HOTEL
IN MOSCOW.
IT WAS WIDELY DISCUSSED.
IT WAS IN THE PAPERS.
YOU NEED TO HIRE A GUY FOR
THE MONEY THEY PAID STEELE
TO TELL YOU THAT?
WE KNEW, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT
THE OIL COMPANY THAT
PURPORTEDLY WAS GOING TO PAY
CARTER ZILLION OF DOLLARS.
IT WAS A PREPOSTEROUS TALE
IT WAS KNOWN THEY WERE GOING
TO PRIVATIZE 15% OF THAT OIL
COMPANY.Y.
YOU HAVE SAT STEELE WHOEVER
IT WAS OR HIS ASSOCIATES
WITH AND READ THE RUSSIAN
PRESS AND GOT BEEN 50% OFS
THAT INFORMATION.
Tucker: A LOT OF OUR
INTELLIGENCE COMES FROM
NEWSPAPERS.
THAT'S THE SHOCKING TRUTH ASOT
YOU WELL KNOW.W.
PROFESSOR, THANK YOU FOR
THAT.
I APPRECIATE IT.
WELL ROBIN IS A FORMAL
REGIONAL DIRECTOR FOR BARACK
OBAMA'S 2008 CAMPAIGN.
HE JOINS US TONIGHT.
THANK YOU FOR COMING ON.
THANKS FOR HAVING ME,
TUCKER.RE
Tucker: I THINK IT'S
IMPORTANT TO HAVE AN OPEN
MIND I HAVE NEVER BEEN A
FRIEND OF RUSSIA OR ANYTHING
LIKE THAT.
BEEN GOING ON A YEAR AND
PREVENTED THE GOVERNMENT
FROM DOING WHETHER A IT
OUGHT TO DO AS AN
INVESTIGATION.
FAIR FOR THE AMERICAN
CITIZEN TO SAY WHAT'S THIS
ABOUT?
ACCUSING PEOPLE OF TREASONON A A
BETRAYING THEIR COUNTRY.
ONLY THING I HAVE ABLE TO
COME UP WITH IS THIS DOSSIER
PRIMA FACIE FLAWED.
WHAT ELSE DO YOU KNOW ABOUT.
YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I
DO TO OBTAIN A FISA WARRANT
YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST 10
FORMS OF CORROBORATING
EVIDENCE.
THAT WAS JUST ONE OF THEM.
AND, YOU KNOW, COMEY WAS
CORRECT.
Tucker: WHAT ARE THE
OTHERS?
WE DON'T KNOW.
THAT INVESTIGATION IS STILL
ONGOING.
WE HAVEN'T BEEN PRIVY TO
THAT.
FIVE OTHER INVESTIGATIONS.
Tucker: THAT'S ALL WE DO
IN WASHINGTON IS STAGE
INVESTIGATIONS.
I KNOW.
RIGHT.
Tucker: LOOK, AT A
CERTAIN POINT YOU THINK
THAT'S FINE.
GET IT.RI
ALLEGATION IS OUT THERE.
LET'S GET TO THE BOTTOM OF
IT BUT THIS IS THE BASIS MUCH A
PARTISAN WAR RIGHT NOW.
AT SOME POINT THE REST OFS
HAVE YOU A RIGHT WHAT ARE
YOU TALKING ABOUT?
YOU GOT THE DOSSIER.
WHAT ELSE IS THERE?
CAN YOU POINT TO A SINGLE
OTHER FACT THAT SUGGESTS
ACTUAL COLLUSION BETWEEN THE
TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND THE
GOVERNMENT OF VLADIMIR
PUTIN?
NOW, YOU ARE A SMART MAN,MI
YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO
THAT FBI INVESTIGATIONS
COULD NOT WORK LIKE THAT.
WE ARE NOT PRIVY TO ONGOING
INVESTIGATIONS.
Tucker: NO, NO.
WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE HAVE
BEEN CHARGED.
WE KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN
CHARGES.
Tucker: NONE OF THE
CHARGES HAVE ANYTHING TO DO
WITH COLLUSION WITH THE
RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT.
YOU HAD TWO PEOPLE CHARGED
FOR THINGS THEY DID LONG
BEFORE THE CAMPAIGN AND TWO
OTHERS CHARGED FOR LYING TO
THE FBI.
I MEAN, AND LET'S BE REAL.
WE BOTH KNOW WHAT THAT
MEANS.
IT'S NOT A REAL THING.
HONESTLY, LIKE THE WHOLE
LEADERSHIP OF YOUR PARTY IS
ACCUSING PEOPLE OF BETRAYING
THEIR COUNTRY.
DO WE HAVE ANY EVIDENCE
THAT'S REAL?
LIKE ANY?
I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE
VERY FIRST THING THAT YOU
SAID.
STRUCK A CORD WITH ME
BECAUSE AS A VETERAN I HAD
THE SAME OATH TO UPHOLD THE
CONSTITUTION THAT OUR
FEDERAL AGENTS DO.
THEY ARE JUST DOING THEIR
JOBS TO UPHOLD OUR WAY OF
DEMOCRACY.
Tucker: SLOW DOWN.
I'M NOT ATTACKING THEM.
I'M TALKING ABOUT OURR
ELECTED LEADERS IN CONGRESS
HAVE GONE WAY OUT ON A LIMB
ACCUSING PEOPLE THEY
DISAGREE WITH POLITICALLY
FOR WORK FOR A FOREIGN AND
HOSTILE NATION AND I THINK T
NOW AFTER A YEAR MORE THATST
BE A YEAR IT'S FAIR OF ME TO
ASK WHAT ARE YOU TALKING
ABOUT? O
DO YOU HAVE ANY EVIDENCE
THAT THAT'S TRUE?
AND AS I SAID THE ONLY PIECE
I CAN SEE IS THE DOSSIER
WHICH I DOUBT YOU WILL
DEFEND BECAUSE IT'S
IMPOSSIBLE TO DEFEND.
IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE
THAT'S FORMING THE BASIS OF
THESE ALLEGATIONS?N
YES, LIKE I SAID.
THERE WERE AT LEAST NINE
OTHER FORMS OF CORROBORATING
EVIDENCE.
WE ARE NOT PRIVY TO THAT
INFORMATION BECAUSE IT'S AN
OPEN FBI INVESTIGATION U THE
PUBLIC IS NOT.
Tucker: WHAT PERCENTAGE
OF FISA WARRANTS ARE
GRANTED.
SOMETHING LIKE 52%.
THAT'S A LOT.
Tucker: IT'S A LOT.
IT'S ONLY FAKE IF IT'S LIKE
AN ALBANIAN ELECTION
LIKE YOU GET ALL THE
VOTE.
I THINK IT'S FAIR TORE
ME TO ASK LIKE WHAT WAS THE
EVIDENCE?
HAVE YOU STOPPED OUR
GOVERNMENT FROM WORKING.
WHY ARE YOU DOING THAT?
WHAT DO YOU KNOW THAT WE
SHOULD KNOW ABOUT TRUMP'S
COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA?
AND THE ANSWER IS THERE'S
NOTHING.
IT'S THIS DOSSIER.
THIS IS ALL A BAD JOKE THEN
WHAT ELSE IS THERE?
THAT'S ONE -- I DON'T
WANT TO BE SO REDUNDANT BUT
IT'S ON OF AT LEAST 9 FORMS OF.
Tucker: CAN YOU NAME ME
ANY OF THEM?
NO.
FBI INVESTIGATION.
I DON'T WORK AT THE FBI.
THEY HAVE TO.
I UNDERSTAND.
IN ORDER TO GET A FISA
WARRENT EVEN THOUGH 90% OF
BENCH WARRANT IS GRANTED YOU
DON'T NEED REAL EVIDENCE TO
GET ONE.
ALL OF THE LEGAL ANALYST
THAT I HAVE HEARD THESE FISA
WARRANT BETWEEN 60 AND 90
PAGES SO IT CAN'T JUST BE
SALACIOUS DOSSIER.
Tucker: THEY ARE LONG SO
THEY THEREFORE MUST BE TRUE?
IS THAT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
HAVE FAITH IN A SYSTEM
THAT CLEARLY NEEDS
OVERSIGHTED.
I WONDER WHY I CAN'T HAVE
SOME FACTS.
BECAUSE IT'S AN OPEN
INVESTIGATION.
Tucker: OH.
G.O.P. SHUT PARTY OF LAW
AND ORDER..
I FEEL LIKE THIS IS AN
ATTACK ON THE PREEMINENT LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IN THE
COUNTRY.
Tucker: OH, RIGHT.
YOU FEEL THAT'S A TALKING
POINTS THE DEMOCRATS SENT
OUT THIS MORNING.
IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK ON
THIS SHOW.
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT.
Tucker: I ACTUALLY DO
BELIEVE IN LAW AND ORDER AND
IN ORDER TO BELIEVE IN IT I
NEED TO KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE A
ADMINISTERING IT ARE ON THE
LEVEL AND THEREFORE I HAVE
THE RIGHT TO ASK HONEST
QUESTIONS AND I' M NOT
GETTING ANY HONEST ANSWERS..
IT'S AN OPEN INVESTIGATION.
MY LAST QUESTION THEN
SINCE YOU KNOW KNOW BELIEVE
THIS INVESTIGATION IS BASED
ON.
ONLY THE FBI DOES AND
-- SHOULD
ACCUSE ANYBODY ELSE BEING A
TOOL OF THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT UNTIL WE GET THAT
DATA, THOSE FAX.X.
YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT I
AGREE WITH YOU
WHOLEHEARTEDLY THERE.
I WOULD LIKE FOR THEM TO DO
THEIR JOB WERE LET HIM GO
UNIMPEDED AND LET HIMSELF BE
EXNONENER RATE OFFED.
WE ARE ALL
INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN
GUILTY.
GOOD TO SEE.E.
GOOD TO SEE YOU, THANK
YOU.
FBI TEXT MESSAGES ARE PRETTY
EMBARRASSING.
PRETTY AMAZING, TOO.
MARK STEYN HAS TAKEN A LOOK
AT THEM.
♪ ♪
Tucker: NEWLY RELEASED
TEXT MESSAGES BETWEEN PETER
STRZOK AND LISA PAGE DON'T
SIMPLELY FROM IMPLICATIONS
TO THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION
THEY ARE EMBARRASSING FORM
THE FBI.
THEY TELL US MORE THAN MAYBE
WE WANTED TO KNOW.
ONE TEXT EXCHANGE STRZOK
REFERS TO THE VIRGINIA
CITIZENS HE SERVES AS IGNORANT
HILLBILLIES HE MISSPELLS THE
WORD.ES
FOR THE CRIME OF NOT ELECTING
MCCABE'S WIFE.
STRZOK ADULT MALE MESSAGE
PAGE IN ALL CAPS OMG THIS IS
F'ING TERRIFYING HE
SQUEALED.
PAGE REPLIED OMG I AM SO
DEPRESSED.
OBVIOUSLY AN ARTICULATE GROUP.
A FEW DAYS LATER PAGE WROTE
THIS I BOUGHT ALL THE
PRESIDENT'S MEN I FIGURED I
NEED TO BRUSH UP ON
WATERGATE WHAT OUR TASK WAS W
REMAINS UNCLEAR.
MARK STEYN IS AN AUTHOR AND
COLUMNIST.
HE HAS SEEN THESE TEXTS AND
HE JOINS US TONIGHT.T.
UNEDUCATED HILLBILLIES, HUH?
OMG, TUCKER.
LOL.
I THINK LAST TIME THEY CAME
UP ON YOUR SHOW JOHN
REWRITTEN BY TEEN BEAT.
I'M GLAD TO SAY THEY HAVE
MANAGED TO KEEP THAT UP.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND -- JUST
TO BE SERIOUS FOR A MOMENT
NOBODY EVER RESIGNS IN
WASHINGTON UNLESS THEY ARE
CAUGHT UP IN ME TOO.
FRONT OF CAMERA AND SAY PETER
STRZOK ONE
MEETING WEARING HARVEY
WEINSTEIN'S BATH ROBE.
HE IS OUT.
ABSENT THAT NOBODY RESIGNS.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THESE
TWO ARE STILL IN GOVERNMENT
SERVICE? T
WE WERE ACCUSED OF BEING
BIGOTS BY JOY REID AND HER
CHUMS AT MSNBC A WEEK OR TWO
BACK.
THESE PEOPLE ACTUALLY ARE
BIGOTS.
THEY THINK OF VIRGINIANS AS
HILLBILLIES AND ROMANIANS AS
SLEAZY.
ONE POINT THEY ARE TALKING
ABOUT THIS GUCCIFER BIG
INTERNET GUY IN ROMANIA
DESCRIBED AS SLEAZY ROMANIAN
AND LISA PAGE TEXT STRZOK
BACK ALL ROMANIANS ARE
SLEAZY.
COMBINE THE CROOKEDNESS OF
RUSSIANS WITH THE
ENTITLEDNESS OF ITALIANS.
WHAT'S THAT ONE, TWO, THREE
NATION STATES WHOSE ENTIRE
POPULATIONS HAVE JUST BEEN
PUT DOWN THE BANALITY OF THIS.
GO BACK WHAT YOUR PREVIOUS
GUEST WAS SAYING THEY ARE
ALL SWORN.
THEY HAVE ALL TAKEN THIS
OATH TO UPHOLD THE
CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED
STATES.
THEY ARE NOT.
THEY ARE JUST TWO LOVE BIRDS
WHO APPARENTLY GET TURNED ON
BY HYPER PARTISAN POLITICS.
THEY ARE COMPLETELY
UNQUALIFIED FOR THE JOBS
THEY ARE HOLDING AND WAY
THEY ARE STILL TOLDING THOSE
JOBS IS A COMPLETE DISGRACE
TO THIS FBI OF WHICH
MR. BIRO IS SO PROUD.
Tucker: BECAUSE NO ONE IS
EVER FIRED FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT, MORE LIKELY TO
DIE IN THE JOB THAN EVER BE
FIRED FROM THE JOB..
THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM.
YOU WONDER WHAT'S THE FBI'S
RESPONSE TO THIS?
WELL, THE FBI RESPONSEE
HAS BEEN TO PROTECT ITSELF.
YOU KNOW, THIS GOES RIGHTE
BACK TO WHEN THE BUREAU OF
INVESTIGATION WAS SET UP BY
110 YEARS AGO, 1908, I
THINK.
AND CONGRESS WAS ACTUALLY
CONCERNED, SO CONCERNED THAT
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, THEN
BONEPART.
THE GUY WHO WAS NEPHEW.
HE SPECIFICALLY ASSURED
CONGRESS THAT THE FBI WOULD
NOT BE USED TO MONITOR
POLITICAL DISSENT OR TO SET
LOOSE INVESTIGATIONS ON
POLITICIANS AT THE BEHEST OF
THEIR PARTIES AND OPPONENTS
IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
WE ARE SEEING MORE AND MORE
CLEARLY 110 YEARS LATER
THAT'S THE TWO THINGS THE
FBI IS DOING.
THEY SET THEIR DOGS ON
CARTER PAGE BECAUSE THEY
COULD GET TO THEIR POLITICAL
OPPONENTS.
THEY ARE -- THEY LOOSE THEM
ON A WHOLE COLLECTION OF
TRUMP ASSOCIATES BASICALLY
AT THE DIRECTION OF THE MOST
SENIOR FIGURES IN THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE
AND THOSE TWO SHOULD NOT BE
IN OFFICE.E
Tucker: COULDN'T AGREE
MORE.
MARK STEYN, THANK YOU.
GREAT TO SEE YOU.
THANKS, TUCKER.
Tucker: WHITE HOUSE CHIEF
OF STAFF JOHN KELLY HAS
INFURIATED THE LEFT WITH A
COMMENT ABOUT DREAMERS.
WAS IT UNTRUE?
THAT'S ALWAYS THE FIRST
QUESTION.
WAS IT TRUE OR NOT?
THE QUESTION NOBODY ASKS BUT
WE WILL.
Tucker: GOOGLE MAY BE
STALKING YOU.
HOW THAT COMPANY COULD MAY VERY
WELL BE TRACKING YOUR EVERY
MOVE. T
WE HAVE SOME MAJOR
DEVELOPMENTS ON THAT
TONIGHT.
BUT, FIRST, HOUSE MAJORITY
LEADER NANCY PELOSI
DELIVERED THE LONGEST SPEECH
IN HOUSE HISTORY
TODAY.
APPARENTLY SHE WENT ON FOR
MORE THAN 8 HOURS IN AN
EFFORT TO PRESSURE CONGRESSPA
TO GIVE AMNESTY TO ILLEGAL
IMMIGRANTS.
SO NOW WE HAVE THE FIRST
REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT IN.
MODERN TIME, THE FIRST
PRESIDENT, REALLY WHO IS
ANTI-IMMIGRANT.
TO MINISTER TO THE NEEDS
OF GOD'S CREATION IS AN
ACT OF WORSHIP.
TO IGNORE THOSE NEEDS IS TO
DISHONOR THE GOD WHO MADE
US.
WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR
SOMETHING OFF THE WALL --
YEAH MAYBE IT IS OFF THE WALL.
THE VOTE WILL YIELD SOON
UNTIL I YIELD BACK.
I HAVE NO INTENSION
OF YIELDING BACK,
MR. SPEAKER.
NEWCOMERS WITH ALL OF
THAT HOPE AND ASPIRATION
THEY MAKE AMERICA MORE
AMERICAN.IO
Tucker: WENT ON FOR MANYE
HOURS LIKE THIS.
SHE SAID MANY THINGS.
ONE THING SHE SAID WAS
STRIKING..
LISTEN HOW SHE DESCRIBES HOWAI
HER GRANDSON BADLY WISHES HE
WERE OF A DIFFERENT RACE.
WATCH.
I'M REMINDED OF MY OWN
GRANDSON.
HE HAD A VERY CLOSE FRIEND
WHOSE NAME IS ANTONIO, IS HE
FROM GUATEMALA.
AND HE HAS BEAUTIFUL, TAN
SKIN, BEAUTIFUL BROWN EYES.
AND THE REST.
AND THIS WAS SUCH A PROUD
DAY FOR ME BECAUSE WHEN MY
GRANDSON BLEW OUT THE
CANDLES ON HIS CAKE, THEY
SAID DID YOU MAKE A WISH?
AND HE SAID YES, I MADE A
WISH.
I SAID WHAT IS YOUR WISH?
HE SAID I WISH I HAD BROWN
SKIN AND BROWN EYES LIKE
ANTONIO.
SO BEAUTIFUL.
THE BEAUTY IS IN THE MIX.
Tucker: WAS IT HEALTHY TO
HATE YOURSELF FOR THE WAY
THAT GOD MADE YOU?
NANCY PELOSI THINKS IT IS.
HER DELIGHT SAYS
EVERYTHING ABOUT THE MODERN
DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
CERTAIN RACES ARE GOOD.
OTHERS ARE BAD.
SO BAD THAT IT'S CONSIDEREDAC
BEAUTIFUL TO HATE YOUR OWN
INNATE APPEARANCE AND WANT
IT CHANGED.
AND THAT PELOSI IS SAYING
ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS SHE
SUPPORTS MASS IMMIGRATION SO
AMERICA WILL LOOK DIFFERENT
AND IN HER VIEW BETTER THAN M
IT DOES NOW.
NOW, WHATEVER YOU THINK OF
THAT IDEA, IT IS A GENUINELY
RADICAL SENTIMENT.R
NOBODY HAS SAID ANYTHING
LIKE THAT ON THE HOUSE FLOOR
FOR A LONG TIME.
THEY USED TO. A
BUT THEY DON'T ANYMORE.
AND FOR GOOD REASON.
ELEVATING ONE RACE OVER
ANOTHER IS THE DEFINITION OF
BIGOTRY.E
PELOSI MAY NOT BE SHARP
ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THE
CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT SHE
JUST SAY.
SHE MAY NOT KNOW WHAT SHE IS
SAYING. U
IF YOU WANT TO LIVE IN A
COUNTRY WHERE EVERYONE
DOESN'T HATE EVERYONE ELSE
FOR THE COLOR OF YOUR SKIN,
YOU OUGHT NOT SAY THINGS
LIKE THAT.
DEMOCRATS OUGHT TO STOP
TALKING LIKE THIS IN PUBLIC.
THE WHITE HOUSE MEANWHILE
CHIEF OF STAFF SAYING
HUNDREDS OF ILLEGAL
IMMIGRANTS DIDN'T SIGN UP
FOR DACA IN PART BECAUSE
SOME OF THEM MAY HAVE BEENEG
TOO LAZY, WATCH. D
THERE ARE 690,000
OFFICIAL DACA REGISTRANTS.
AND THE PRESIDENT SENT OVER
WHAT AMOUNTS TO BE 2 AND A
HALF TIMES THAT NUMBER TO
1.8 MILLION.
THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 690
AND 1.8 MILLION WERE THE
PEOPLE THAT SOME WOULD SAYET
WERE TOO AFRAID TO SIGN UP,
OTHERS WERE WOO SAY WERE TOO
LAZY TO GET OFF THEIR -- BUT
THEY DIDN'T SIGN UP.
Tucker: THE LEFT IS
HOWLING OF COURSE AND
JUMPING UP AND DOWN LIKE THE
HYENAS THEY ARE. T
THINK ABOUT WHAT HE SAID.
DACA DID EXIST FOR FIVE
YEARS WITH CARVE OUT PEOPLE
BROUGHT HERE UNDER THE AGE
OF 18.
A LOT OF WAYS TO HELP PEOPLE
SIGN UP FOR IT PROGRAMS,
TRANSLATER, LAWYERS.
AT LOVE THINGS TO HELP
IMMIGRANTS APPLY.
YET MORE THAN A MILLION
PEOPLE WHO ARE ELIGIBLE TO
APPLY TO THE PROGRAM FAILED
TO DO SO.
WHY IS THAT?
EXACTLY?
WHAT DOES IT TELL US ABOUT
THEM?
ROBERTO HERNANDEZ IS AN
IMMIGRATION ACTIVIST.
HE JOINS US.S.
THANKS FOR COMING ON.
HEY, TUCKER.GR
HOW ARE YOU DOING?HE
Tucker: I'M DOING GREAT..
I THINK IT'S A REALLY
INTERESTING QUESTION.
SO THE MAJORITY THE PEOPLELE
WHO WERE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS
PROGRAM, WHICH I THINK IS
UNCONSTITUTIONAL IN THE
FIRST PLACE BUT IT EXISTED.
THEY DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR THE
PROGRAM.
NOW, MAYBE SOME WOULD SAY
THEY ARE LAZY.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE
EXPLANATION.BE
I THINK THEY JUST DIDN'T
CARE THINK DIDN'T CARE ABOUT
OUR LAW.AN
THEY DIDN'T CARE ABOUT THE
FOLLOWING THE RULES IN A
COUNTRY THAT'S NOT THEIRS.
SO HE THIS DIDN'T.
I THINK THAT'S WORSE THAN
LAZINESS, HONESTLY.
YOU KNOW, TUCKER,.
[SPEAKING SPANISH]
OH MY GOD, FIRST OF ALL, I
CAN'T BELIEVE JOHN KELLY THE
CHIEF OF STAFF OF THE WHITE
HOUSE OF THIS COUNTRY USING
THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE?
YOU KNOW, TO ME, IT'S LIKE
IT REMINDS ME OF THE BULLIES
IN 3RD GRADE.
AND IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT
WHY DID PEOPLE NOT APPLY?
PEOPLE ARE AFRAID, TUCKER.UC
LOOK AT ALL THE ICE RAIDS
THAT ARE GOING ON IN THIS
COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.
Tucker: NO, THIS IS NOT
RIGHT NOW.OW
THIS IS.
PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN
RIGHT NOW.
Tucker: RIGHT, OKAY.
BEAUTIFUL.
Tucker: CAN I ASK YOU A
QUESTION.
BEAUTIFUL BROWN SKIN AS
WE'RE.
Tucker: IT'S NOT ABOUT
THAT.
IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH
THIS.
IT IS.
THEY ARE NOT PICKING ON ANY
OTHER RACE.
THEY ARE PICKING ON ANY
OTHER RACE.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY OTHER.
Tucker: YOU ARE SINGLE
HANDEDLY MAKING ME VERY
AGAINST MAKING ANY OF THESE
PEOPLE BECOME CITIZENS
BECAUSE YOU ARE MAKING IT A
RACIAL QUESTION IT'S A
QUESTION OF CITIZENSHIP.
THESE PEOPLE ARE HERE
ILLEGALLY.E
OBAMA SAID LOOK I'M GOING TO
LET YOU STAY THUNDER
PROGRAM.
I'M GOING TO LET YOU SIGN UP
UNDER THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION.Y
NOT TRUMP, OBAMA, FIVE YEARS
AGO AND MOST OF THEM DIDN'T
SIGN UP.
NOW, TRUMP IS SAYING I'M
GIVING YOU CITIZENSHIP
ANYWAY.
I TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH
WHATEVER, THAT'S THE FACT.
BUT THE POINT IS THEY DIDN'T
SIGN UP.
WHAT WERE THEY AFRAID OF?
THE OBAMA PEOPLE ARE LIKE WE
ARE HELPING YOU, GIVE YOU A
TRANSLATOR.
YOU STILL WON'T DO IT?
A
WHY.
BECAUSE YOU DON'T CARE.
YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT BEING
LEGAL.
WHAT'S THE OTHER
EXPLANATION?Y.
BUT, LET'S LOOK, OKAY,
BRING UP TRUMP.
NOW THAT YOU BRING UP TRUMP.
Tucker: IT WAS UNDER
OBAMA, MAN, TUNE IN.
HE CREATED A CRISIS FOR
DACA.
SIMPLE.
IT WASN'T A CRISIS UNTIL HE
MADE IT A CRISIS.
DISTRACTION FOR THIS COUNTRY
WHEN WE HAVE SOME OTHER
ISSUES.
Tucker: I COULDN'T AGREE
MORE.
CRISIS WE HAVE IN THIS
COUNTRY THAT SHOULDN'T BE
THE TOPIC OF THIS SUBJECT OF
WHAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED IN B
THIS COUNTRY.
Tucker: I COULDN'T AGREE
WITH YOU MORE.
WE FOUND COMMON GROUND.
USING IT AS BLACKMAIL
TODAY.
GIVE ME THE WALL.
Tucker: JUST ANSWER THIS
ONE QUESTION.
UNDER BARACK OBAMA, WHO
OFFERED THIS PROGRAM TO
PEOPLE HERE ILLEGALLY HE
SAID LOOK, I WILL LET YOU
STAY, GIVE YOU LEGAL STATUS
AND HELP YOU SIGN UP FOR IT L
THERE IS NOTHING I WON'T DO
TO HELP YOU SIGN UP FOR IT
MOST OF THEM SAID NOT
INTERESTED.
I'M TURNING DOWN THE
PROGRAMS AND TRANSLATER AND
THE SAFE SPACES YOU ARE
GIVING ME.
WHY?
DON'T TELL ME THEY ARE
AFRAID.
HE WAS ASKING THEM TO SIGN
UP AND HELPING THEM AND THEY
DIDN'T. A
WHAT'S THE ANSWER?
WHY DIDN'T THEY DO THAT
UNDER BARACK OBAMA?
HONESTLY?
WELL, THAT WAS TEMPORARY.
AND BARACK OBAMA QUITE
CANDIDLY FAILED BY NOTAC
GETTING IMMIGRATION REFORMRM
DONE THE FIRST YEAR.
Tucker: YOU ARE NOT GOING
TO ANSWER MY QUESTION, ARE
YOU?NE
NO, I AM.
I'M TRYING TO ANSWER YOUR
QUESTION.
DIDN'T BARACK OBAMA PROMISE
THAT HE WAS GOING TO
DO REFORM THE
FIRST YEAR THAT HE WAS IN
OFFICE?
Tucker: DOES THE
PRESIDENT MAKE THE LAWS IN
THIS COUNTRY OR DOES THE
CONGRESS?
DO YOU KNOW?
IT'S CONGRESS.
Tucker: RIGHT, THERE YOU
GO.
GOOD.
SO CONGRESS DOES.
OBAMA ALSO HAS DEMOCRATICuc
CONTROL HOUSE.
NANCY PELOSI WAS THE HEAD OF
THAT HE ALSO HAD THE SENATE
THAT WAS DEMOCRATIC
CONTROLLED.
Tucker: SO YOU ARE NOT
ANSWERING MY QUESTION.
IT'S A REALLY INTERESTING
QUESTION.
I THINK IT TELLS YOU A LOT
ABOUT THIS POPULATION WE ARE
ABOUT TO GIVE CITIZENSHIP TO
VOTING IN OUR NEXT ELECTION
OR SOME SUBSEQUENT ELECTION.
I HOPE WE GET TO THE BOTTOMM
OF IT BECAUSE IT TELLS US A
LOT. S
ROBERTO GOOD TO SEE.
GOOGLE HAS PATENTS FOR
SPYING ON YOUR HOME YOUR
BEDROOM YOUR KIDS.GO
THEY COULD ALREADY BE SPYING
ON YOU THROUGH YOUR PHONE.
THE ONE THAT'S IN YOUR
POCKET RIGHT NOW.EY
NOT MAKING IT UP TO SCARE
YOU.
WE TESTED IT TODAY.
OUR EXCLUSIVE REPORT IS
NEXT.
♪ ♪
Tucker: LAST NIGHT THE
EXCLUSIVE INVESTIGATION WE
SHOWED YOU TWO PATENTS THATGA
GOOGLE HAS FILED FOR.
THEY SHOW THE COMPANY'S
WILLINGNESS TO STICK A
CAMERA IN YOUR BEDROOM TO
SPY ON YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN
AND USE THE INFORMATION TO
SELL YOU THINGS.
GOOGLE DOESN'T
HAVE CAMERA IN EVERY BEDROOM
OR EVERY HOME.
IT DOES HAVE A PHONE IN
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE'S POCKETSAM
THOUGH.
THE QUESTION IS HOW MUCH
INFORMATION IS GOOGLE
GETTING FROM THOSE PHONES?
WE PUT A COUPLE OF OUR
SMARTEST PRODUCERS ON THIS
AND WE SENT FOX NEWS
HEADLINES ANCHOR BRET LARSON
OUT TO INVESTIGATE.
WATCH.
WE KNOW THAT GOOGLE ISSO
TRACKING US.
WE AGREE TO IT WHEN WE SET
UP OUR PHONES.
SO WE WANTED TO FIGURE OUT
WHAT EXACTLY GOOGLE IS
LEARNING ABOUT US THROUGHOUT
THE DAY.E
SO HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING
TO DO.
WE HAVE TWO IDENTICAL
PHONES.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
THESE TWO PHONES IS THIS ONE
IS IN AIRPLANE MODE.
BOTH OF THE PHONES LACK A
SIM CARD AND HAVEN'T BEEN
SET UP TO ACCESS ANY WI-FI
NETWORKS SO FOR ALL INTENTS
AND PURPOSES THEY HAVE NO
CONNECTION TO A DATA
NETWORK.OR
KEEP THEM WITH US THROUGHOUT
THE DAY.
WHEN I TRAVEL AROUND D.C.
WE WILL FIND OUT WHAT GOOGLE
IS FINDING OUT ABOUT ME.
OUR FIRST STOP SIMS
CONVENIENCE STORE OUTSIDE
THE FOX BUREAU FOR QUICK
COFFEE.
FROM THERE TOOK A WALK TO THE
CAPITOL AND TOOK A QUICK WALK
AROUND THE SENATE OFFICE
BUILDING AND DECIDED TO HOP IN A
CAR AND HEAD AROUND TOWN.
HELLO.
HOW ARE YOU.
GOING TO THE CHILDREN'S
HOSPITAL, PLEASE.
TO RUN OUR TEST, WHEN WERE
TO DO MORE THAN WALK THE
BLOCK.
SO WE TOOK A TOUR AROUND OUR
NATION'S CAPITOL.
FIRST DUE NORTH TO THE
CHILDREN'S NATIONAL MEDICAL
CENTER HOSPITAL AND WEST TO
SAINT ALBAN'S SCHOOL AND
THE NATIONAL CATHEDRAL.
OUR TOUR AROUND TOWN WAS A
14-MILE JOURNEY THAT LASTEDD
MORE THAN AN HOUR.
THE ENTIRE TIME THE PHONES
HAD NO ACCESS TO THE
INTERNET.
OH MY GOODNESS.
NOT A WI-FI CONNECTION AND
NOT ANY CELLULAR DATA
SERVICE.
IT ALMOST SEEMED QUAINT TO
ASSUME THAT GOOGLE WOULDN'T
EVEN BE ABLE TO COLLECT DATA
ON ME.
HEAD BACK TO THE BUREAU,
MY FRIEND.
THAT CHURCH IS BEAUTIFUL.
GOOGLE'S BUSINESS MODEL
IS SIMPLE.
COLLECT DATA ON ITS USERS
AND USE THAT DATA TO SELL
TARGETED ADS.
IT'S A BUSINESS MODEL CALLED
SURVEILLANCE CAPITALISM.
BUT DOES THAT CRITICAL DATA
COLLECTION WORK EVEN WHEN
YOUR PHONES AREN'T
CONNECTED?D?
SO WE'RE BACK HERE AT OUR
FOX BUREAU IN D.C.
AND WE HAVE GOT BOTH OF OUR A
PHONES EXACTLY HOW WE LEFT
WITH THEM.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE, REALLY,
I SNAPPED A COUPLE OF BAD
SHELFIES AT THE NATIONAL
CATHEDRAL:
BUT OTHERWISE
THEY HAVE STAYED IN MY
POCKET FOR THE ENTIRE DAY.
SO LET'S FIND OUT WHAT THEY
KNOW. F
THIS IS OUR MAN IN THE W
MIDDLE DEVICE.
IT'S BASICALLY A WI-FI
NETWORK THAT THESE PHONES
ARE GOING TO CONNECT TO ONCE
WE TURN THEIR WI-FI ON.
IT'S GOING TO PASS DATA T
THROUGH IT ON THE WAY TO O
GOOGLE.
BUT ON THE WAY WE'RE
ACTUALLY GOING TO GET A COPY
OF THE SAME DATA THAT GOOGLE
IS GOING TO GET.
WE WILL BE ABLE TO DECRYPT
IT AND FIND OUT WHERE WE
HAVE BEEN THROUGHOUT THE
DAY.
WITHIN MINUTES THE NUMBERS
ROLLED IN, THE PHONE THAT
WASN'T ON AIRPLANE MODE
REGISTERED MORE THAN 100
LOCATIONS, 130 ACTIVITIES
AND EVEN 152 BAROMETRIC
READINGS.
AS SOON AS IT HOOKED UP TO
OUR WI-FI IT TRANSMITTED
300-KILO BITES OF DATA
STRAIGHT TO GOOGLE.
THE PHONE EVEN LOGGED OUR
EXACT LOCATIONS.
TRACKING US ALL AROUND TOWN.
THE CAPITOL, THE HOSPITAL,L,
THE SCHOOL, AND THEN.
CATHEDRAL.
NOW YOU MAY NOTICE WHAT'S
MISSING HERE IS THE EXACT
ROUTE THAT WE TOOK.
BUT IT GOT THAT DATA, TOO.HE
IT KNOWS WHEN I GOT OUT OF
THE CAR.
THE METADATA HAS A TIME
LOG DOWN TO THE VERY SECOND.
TRACKING EVERYTHING.G.
WHEN THEY THINK THAT YOU AREEC
WALKING, RIDING, AND, YES,
EVEN GETTING OUT OF THE CAR.
OKAY.
SO YOU ARE THINKING THIS
ISN'T A BIG DEAL.
I WILL JUST PUT MY PHONE IN
AIRPLANE MODE.
YEAH, WE THOUGHT OF THAT,
TOO.
THIS IS THE OTHER PHONE THAT
WE HAD WITH US, NO SIM CARD,
ALSO REMAINS IN AIRPLANE T
MODE THE ENTIRE TIME.
LET'S SEE WHAT KIND OF DATA
IT CAPTURED.HE
THE PHONE WITH AIRPLANE
MODE ACTIVATED ACTUALLY
LOGGED MORE LOCATIONS AND
ACTIVITIES THAN THE OTHER
PHONE.
AND IT ALSO TRANSFERRED
HUNDREDS OF KILO BITES OF
DATA TO GOOGLE AS SOON AS IT
WAS ACTIVATED.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S
MISSING FROM THIS MAP IS OURUR
STOP AT THE CHILDREN'S
HOSPITAL.
BUT IT STILL KNOWS WE WERE
THERE.
THERE IT IS.
EXITING THE VEHICLE.
100 PERCENT ACCURACY..
THROUGH COMPLICATED USER
AGREEMENTS AND FREE SOFTWARE
GOOGLE GETS USERS TO SIGN
AWAY THEIR PRIVACY FOR
NOTHING.
THEY ARE EVEN FOLLOWING YOU
INTO PLACES THAT MOST PEOPLE
WOULD EXPECT TOTAL PRIVACY.
GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS, A
CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL.
A PRIVATE SCHOOL.
A CHURCH.
EVERY MOVE YOU MAKE, EVERY
STEP YOU TAKE, GOOGLE IS
WATCHING YOU.
NOW, IN A STATEMENT TO FOX
NEWS, GOOGLE TOLD US THAT
USERS WHO WANT TO OPT OUT OFOO
TRACKING SHOULD TURN OFF
LOCATION HISTORY.
BUT DOING THAT IS HARDER
THAN YOU WOULD THINK AND
MOST OF GOOGLE'S APPSAR
INCLUDE HITTING QUERIES THAT
AUTOMATICALLY SIGN YOU UP
FOR THE SURVEILLANCE.
FOR NOW WE WILL CONTINUE TOO
LOOKING INTO HOW SILICON
VALLEY SELLS YOUR PRIVACY.
JUST REMEMBER WHEN YOU ARE
USING A FREE ONLINE SERVICE,
YOU ARE PROBABLY NOT THE
CUSTOMER.
YOU ARE ACTUALLY THE
PRODUCT.
TUCKER?
Tucker: SHOCKING. A
AIRPLANE MODE ON, THEY ARE
STILL FOLLOWING EVERYTHING
YOU DO AND AUTOMATICALLY
UPDATES THEM.
I CAN'T WAIT TO FIND OUT
WHAT THEY DO WITH ALL THAT
DATA.
THANK YOU FOR THAT.
THAT'S GREAT REPORT.
THANKS, TUCKER.
Tucker: AND ALSO THE
TECHNOLOGY FRONT, RED LINENE
CAMERAS ARE AN IMPORTANT
CONTRIBUTOR TO HUNDREDS OF
CITY'S BUDGETS.N
IN FACT, THEY KEEP CITIES H
AFLOAT.
THEY ARE STEALING FROM YOU.AC
THAT'S WHY.
QUESTIONS ARE THEY
CONSTITUTIONAL?
LEGISLATORS WANT THOSE
CAMERAS BANNED JOINS US NEXT
TO EXPLAIN HIS CRUSADE ANDS
SO WE CAN ROOT FOR HIM.
♪ ♪
Tucker: RED LIGHT CAMS
ARE SUDDENLY UBIQUITOUS IN
HUNDREDS OF CITIES.
HUNDREDS OF PLACES ARE
INSTALLED CAMERAS RACKING UP
MILLIONS OF FINES THAT
SUSTAIN CITY BUDGETS.
ARE THEY A WISE IDEA?
IS IT CONSTITUTIONAL IS
THERE A MOMENT WHEN
GOVERNMENT GOES FROM BEING
PEOPLE TO PROTECT YOU TO
THOSE DISRESPECT YOU.
THANK YOU, TUCKER, GOOD
TO BE WITH YOU.
THANK YOU, TUCKER, GOOD
TO BE WITH YOU.
IS THERE ANY
PRETENSE.
ARE WE PRETENDING RED LIGHT
CAMERAS ARE HERE TO HELP US
OR HERE TO FLEECE US,
TREATING US AS MARKS FOR
POLITICIANS?
NO, IT'S PRETTY OBVIOUS
WHAT THEY ARE HERE FOR I WAS
TAUGHT EARLY ON IN MY
POLITICAL CAREER WHICH HAS
ALWAYS BEEN A COUPLE YEARS
SO FAR.
IF YOU EVER WANT THE ANSWER
TO SOMETHING JUST FOLLOW THE
MONEY.
IRONICALLY, WE HAVE HAD THIS
BILL IN FRONT OF COMMITTEE.
THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR IN A
ROW PASSED IT OUT OF THE
HOUSE LAST YEAR.
AND THE CITIES AND TOWNSNS
THAT COME IN AND ARGUE FOR
THIS TYPE OF MECHANISM AND
THIS TYPE OF DEVICE, IT
ALWAYS COMES DOWN TO
REVENUE, REVENUE, REVENUE.
I SAID WELL OPEN UP SOME
TOLL ROADS IN YOUR TOWNS AND
CITIES AND THROW THESEPE
CAMERAS IN THE GARBAGE.
Tucker: I THOUGHT
GOVERNMENT WAS THERE TO
PROTECT YOU, NOT EXPLOIT
YOU.
TAKE YOUR MONEY.
IT'S A NICE THOUGHT.
THE UNFORTUNATE REALITY IS
THAT IT'S AN INDUSTRY THAT'S
NOT ONLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL,
IT'S CAUSED A LOT OF UNSAFE
CONDITIONS.
ALSO RIFE WITH FRAUD.
YOU GET TO THIS MONEY ASPECT
OF IT ONE OF THE BIGGEST
PROBLEMS I HAVE IS THIS
PRIVATIZATION OF LAW
ENFORCEMENT WHERE YOU ARE
INCENTIVIZING A FOR PROFIT
COMPANY TO ISSUE MORE AND
MORE TICKETS TO PEOPLE BY
THE WAY YOUR GOOGLE SEGMENTRE
WAS INTERESTING TO ME
BECAUSE THERE THEY ARE
HARVESTING ALL THIS DATA RED
FLEX ONE THE BIG COMPANIES
IN ARIZONA THAT DOES IT IS
AUSTRALIAN BASED COMPANY.
THEY WIND UP WITH ALL THIS
INFORMATION THAT BELONGS TO
DRIVERS AND THEIR PERSONAL
LIVES.
FRIGHTENING.
Tucker: SNEAK INTO THIS
COUNTRY AND USE OUR SERVICES
AND INFRASTRUCTURE WE
PROTECT YOU.
IF YOU WERE TO SPRAY PAINTUR
THE FRONT OF A RED LIGHT
CAMERAS THEREBY SAVING YOUR
FELLOW CITIZENS YOU WILL BE
ARRESTED.
IT'S HAPPENED HERE.
YOU WILL BE ARRESTED AND DO
SOME TIME.IL
Tucker: TELLS YOU
EVERYTHING, DOESN'T IT.TE
TRAVIS, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW
MUCH WE ARE ON YOUR SIDE.
GOD SPEED TELL US IF YOU WIN
AND COME BACK AND CELEBRATE.OU
THANK YOU.R
THANKS, TUCKER.
WILL DO.
Tucker: RIGHT BACK.
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Tucker: HEAR SOMETHING NEW.
NEW YORK CITY WILL NO LONGER
PROSECUTE MOST SUBWAY TURNSTILE
JUMPERS, EFFECTIVELY GIVING
CRIMINALS A FREE RIDE..
MANHATTAN D.A. CYRUS VANCE IS
BEHIND THE MOVE, THEY WILL NOT
LET HARVEY WEINSTEIN OFF THE
MOVE.
LIBERALS SAY ENFORCING THE LAW
WAS RACIST.
THEY SAID THE SAME THING ABOUT
PUBLIC BAN IN NEW YORK CITY,
WHICH IS NOW NO LONGER IN PLACE.
AS THE CITY GETTING BETTER?
WHO CARES.:0
THAT'S IT FOR US TONIGHT.
TUNE IN EVERY NIGHT AT 8:00 TO
THE SHOW THAT IS THE SWORN ENEMY