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jon: Welcome to the daily
Show, my name is jon
Stewart.
We have a fine one tonight,
Our guest tonight, president
Bill clinton will be joining
Us
(cheers and applause)
He is from what I am being
Told right now just wrapping
Up his piece at the
Democratic convention.
He'll be here, I make jokes
For a living.
first, big, big, big
News.
new evidence from an
Ancient text that suggests
Jesus may have been married.
Jesus was married, that is
Some pure, uncut sitcom
Bait.
He can raise the dead but
Heaven help him when he
Forgets to put down the
Toilet seat.
Kevin james is jesus in the
King of kings.
(applause)
Hang on here, that would be
A good show.
Unless he's going to take it
On stage.
Water walking, resurrected
Son of god was married.
Where is the evidence?
this mattered piece of
Papyrus may look like a
Discarded business card.
jon: Let me interrupt you
Right there.
(laughter)
In what world does that look
Like a discarded business
Card?
Physicals it's a business
Card for an arc builder,
Maybe.
But it really does look like
A tattered piece of papyrus.
You can't just say something
In the voice over and expect
To us go along with it in
The off chance that our eyes
Are closed.
It's really... Sorry w what
Is the evidence.
a harvard scholar has
Just revealed that a faded
Piece of papyrus written in
The coptic language 400
Years after jesus died
Contained the phrase, jesus
Said to them, my wife.
that word, that phrase,
Jesus said, my wife, is cut
Off.
(laughter)
jon: Wait, that's it?
A piece of papyrus 400 years
After the life of jesus that
Has the two words "my wife"
And then just ends.
That's your proof.
Well, let me see if I can
Fill that sentence out for
You.
Jesus said my wife, if I
Ever find one, will really
Have to like thai food.
Or how about this.
My wife, question mark, no,
I'm not married.
(laughter)
What would real life brick
Tammblin say about this
News.
did you know this
Stunning claim, jesus had a
Wife?
Huh?
The stunning new artifact
Just uncovered will bring
You that information.
lucky lady.
(laughter)
jon: What's with the
Vegas wayne newton cabaret
Matter about the marriage of
Jesus.
Hey, folks, how about a hand
For these two newly-wed
Nazarenes, huh, jesus yoois
And what's your name,
Sweetheart, you're a lucky
Lady, all right.
Moving on now.
(laughter)
Hey, that must have been
Some honeymoon, huh,
Gretchen, huh?
Hey.
Moving on to our main story.
The unemployment rate for
Veterans, 11%.
3% higher than the general
Population.
Luckily the senate today has
Taken up a bill that would
Help get jobs for the over
700,000 veterans currently
Out of work.
on capitol hill
Legislation aimed at putting
The nation's veterans back
To work has been blocked in
The senate.
jon: Oh, right, I forgot.
It's time for our recurring
Segment, oh, right, because
Doing something would have
The... Yes, the senate voted
On a bill that would provide
A billion dollars to veterans,
A bill that would provide a
Billion dollars to veterans
To help them get jobs in law
Enforcement, fire
Departments and or federal
Land.
The bill was affirmed by 58
Senators, rejected by only
40, thus failing to pass
Because apparently in senate
World 58 to 40 is a losing
Score and you eat out of
Your anus and [bleep] out of
Your ears.
(laughter)
Leading the charge against
America's fighting men,
Oklahoma senator tom coburn
Who opposes on grounds of
Fiscal responsibility.
if, in fact, we're going
To start addressing the
Bigger economic problems of
This country, you got to
Quit playing felonious
Accounting with what you are
Doing, which is exactly what
That bill did.
It's exactly the same kind
Of, pardon my word, crap
That congress has done for
Years.
jon: That's right.
This bill is felonious crap!
(laughter)
By the way, also the name of
My jazz fusion band back in
High school.
I was... The senator... Yeah.
Here is the sad part.
That picture was taken last
Year.
The senator and some of his
Colleagues felt that the
Proposed methods of paying
For this bill imposing
Penalties on medicare
Providers who have been
Delinquent on taxes was a
Less than solid fiscal
Foundation.
Just out of curiosity, I'm
Just spit balling here, how
Did we pay for the actual
Wars that made these
Individuals veterans who now
Need jobs?
engaging in accounting
Gimmicks over the years
Leaving big ticket items
Like war spending out of
Official budgets.
jon: Oh, right!
By not paying for them!
(laughter)
At all!
We didn't even put the wars
On lay away and pay them
Down a little bit at a time.
Only taking the wars home
When we were done with them.
Of course!
We could have funded it,
That would have been wrong
For america.
Obviously senator coburn was
Not in the senate when the
War began but I'm sure the
Minute he got there he
Brought the fiscal integrity
He is famous for to even the
Supplement war funding
Bills.
the congress has taken a
Vacation while we haven't
Passed the supplement for
Our troops.
The american people ought to
Be outraged that we would
Leave here before we've
Taken care of our troops.
I think it's unconscionable.
jon: What kind of
Felonious crap...
(laughter)
So once again, $800 billion
Unfunded for war, a billion
Dollars, but paid for in a
Way you aren't crazy about
To help the guys who fought
The war get jobs afterwards,
We're not made out of money,
People.
And that's why... Oh, right,
Because doing something
Would help the... We'll be
stephen: My guest
Tonights the 42nd president
Of the United States.
The annual initiative quicks
Off this Thursday, please
Welcome back to the program
President bill clinton.
(cheers and applause)
thank you, thank you.
jon: Let me ask you, so
Give any good speeches
Lately?
Or, how did that feel at the
Convention?
Could you tell that you were
Crushing it as you were
Doing it?
Did you feel that?
yes and no but, you know,
What I mean by that is I
Work so hard on that, for
Weeks and weeks and weeks.
And then the white house
Designated bruce reed who
Worked for vice president
Biden now, and worked with
Me for eight years.
jon: Right.
and worked with erskine
Bowles on that budget
Project to help me.
And gene sperling, the
National economics adviser
Who also worked with me for
Eight years came in and we
Worked the last day and a
Half after doing all this
Other work.
And I was just determined to
Get the facts right and I,
And to simplify the
Argument.
right.
without being simplistic.
I didn't want to talk down
To people.
I wanted to explain what I
Thought was going on.
jon: That's what was so
Stunning, I think, that was
Why it was such a bracing
Speech.
The phrase you mentioned
Earlier about getting the
Facts right.
The idea that you would us
Use... You would use, in
Your argument, I know this
Is interesting, that you
Thought would you utilize in
Your artifacts.
(laughter)
jon: And they would
Have... You would attach
Numbers to them, that were
Real.
I thought was a bold choice
On your part.
well, you know, we were
Talking before the show
Started, I think just forget
About politics.
Think about any time in your
Life you have been confused
Or angry or frightened or
Resentful or anything, and
You didn't know what was
Going on.
In those moments explanation
Is way more important than
El consequence.
And rhetoric falls on deaf
Ears, so the only chance I
Have to get anybody to
Really listen was to say,
Look, here is what I think
Happened.
Boom, boom, boom, boom.
And one of my favorite
Responses came from a guy
Who said I'm a conservative
Republican, I never voted
For clinton.
I never even thought he was
Eloquent, but he treated me
Like a grown-up.
And I appreciated that.
Because the american people
Are plenty smart enough to
Figure all this out.
But you know, I have a wife
With a traveling job so I'm
Home alone a lot.
And... .
jon: What does she do,
What line of work is she in,
That's interesting.
depends on what day it
Is.
But seriously, and I was
President and I was a
Governor for 12 years and a
Grap well all kinds of
Economic challenges.
And I have the time now to
Spend an hour or two a day
Trying to work this out.
And yeah, you can get all
Kinds of information off the
Internet but you can't be
Sure if it is right or not.
And there are all these
Dispar at facts out there.
So what I fried to do is to
Organize the information in
A way I thought would be
Most helpful to people and
Make the arguments that I
Believe that persuade me
That the course that the
President is taking is
Better than the one
Advocated by governor
Romney.
I tried to do it in a calm
Way without calling anybody
Any names or getting anybody
Mad.
I thought they had been a
Little rough on him on that
Well fare and medicare rip
They are on.
So I had a little fun with
That, but otherwise.
jon: But that's what we
Were so surprised because
People took to it in a
Manner as though you had
Brought high rhetoric from
The mountain it was in its
Simplicity, I think, that is
What... It was almost as
Though you brought something
To people and they were
Eating it and they were like
Oh my god there sun real, I
Have never had it.
And you are like, it's pizza.
The simplicity of it... .
I think the american
People take this election
Seriously.
They know they have to make
Choices that will affect
Their lives.
jon: Uh-huh.
and it's not very helpful
If you take up their time
And you don't explain what
Those choices are, at least
From your point of view.
So that's what I tried to do.
jon: Are you surprised,
It has struck me that the
Romney campaign has been
Very year that they don't
Want to give the specifics
Of that choice.
They have been given a
Chance time and time again.
Well, what loopholes would
You close, well, you know, I
Will work that out after I'm
Elected.
See me about that after the
Election.
Surprising with a guy of
That kind of business
Experience that you are
Dealing in numbers and you
Would think specifics.
well, part of the problem
That he has is that... .
jon: Part of.
yeah, he made all these
Commitments in the primary
Campaign.
And you remember, and they
Just kept pushing everybody
To the right.
And so seemed like every
Week there was a new
Challenger coming up and he
Was playing whack-a-mole, he
Had to knock them down.
jon: Very kind of you,
Even mole I think is
Actually... .
in the course of that he
Wound up with a lot of
Commitments.
So I mean, just think about,
This debt is a terrible
Problem.
He said that you know, and
They ran that little debt
Clock up.
Well, it will be a problem
When interest rate goes up
If we don't, as I said if we
Don't deal with it, it will
Deal with us.
And we won't like it, none
Of us, without regard to
Party.
But if I come to you and I
Say we have this terrible
National debt and here is my
Opening gambit, first thing
I will do is increase it by
5 trillion dollars over a
Decade by doing another
Round of tax cuts, it mostly
Benefits the people that we
Benefiting in the last
Decade even though it didn't
Produce jobs.
Now we're in a really deep
Hole, much bigger than this
Clock I just showed you.
Now let me tell you how
We're going to get out of
It.
Well, what about the
Details.
See me about that after the
Election.
right.
I wanted to try to explain
That in simple terms.
No one else would do that.
No one... Unless you were
Being driven by ideology
Instead of by evidence, this
Is a practical country.
We have ideals, we have
Philosophies.
But the problem with any
Ideology is it gives the
Answer before you look at
The evidence.
So you have to mull the
Evidence to get the answer
That you've already decided
You've got to have.
If doesn't work that way.
Building an economy,
Rebuilding an economy, is it
Hard, practical, nuts and
Bolts.
jon: When we come back we
Will talk about the clinton
Global initiative.
Wilt come back, we're here
About former president bill
Clinton.
Are you certain of, it's the
Clinton global initiative.
How many years is this now.
eight.
here is what is going to
Be, you are going to there,
President obama is going to
Be there.
Mitt romney is going to be
There.
Condoleezza rice is going to
Be there.
Egyptian president mohammed
Morse sygoing to be there.
How do you get knees
People... What kind of food
Do you serve?
How do you get a group like
This together in cooperation
To move forward?
What's the pitch?
and the leader of libya
Is going to be there.
And the american people will
Hear from him that he really
Liked the american
Ambassador who was killed.
And that they tried to save
His life.
And that he wants america to
Stay there.
jon: Right.
so there are a lot of
Interesting things.
But we started doing this,
They come because it's at
The opening of the u.N..
A lot of them are going to
Be in new york.
We invite them all to come.
We invite many of them to
Participate.
Ellen general son turley,
Nobel prize winning
President of liberia, a good
Friend of mine, she has been
To a lot of our programs, a
Lot of these people come
Year in, year out.
The secretary-general of the
U.N. And president of the
World bank dr. Jim kim and
The president of wal-mart
Are going to be there at the
Opening to talk about-- .
jon: Does he greet people
As they walk in?
no, he hires unemployed
Senior citizens like me to
Do that.
But... .
jon: All right, fair
Enough.
but look, here's why he
Is coming.
And I got him to change his
Schedule to come for this
Reason.
Wal-mart has deployed more
Photo voltaics on their
Building than any other
Company in america.
They are the number one
Solar company in america
Now.
And they also run some of
Their buildings with wind
Energy.
And they also have cut their
Packaging.
And I want him to describe
What I am trying to get
People to think about, which
Is, most people make money
And decide I want to do
Something good.
That's a noble and good
Thing.
They have decided instead to
Go back to square one and
Say what good do we want.
We want to avoid the worst
Consequence of global
Warming.
We want to cut our energy
Bill, we want to make it
More predictable over the
Long run.
How should we design our
Stores.
How should we design our
Truck routes, how should we
Designed way we package our
Products from the beginning
To get where we want to go
In the end.
We're trying to get people
To think about, instead of
Fixing things when we get
Comfortable, how can we all
At every income level, we're
Also flying nongovernmental
Groups in from some of the
Poorest countries in the
World to be a part of this
Debate.
How do you have the maximum
Impact by thinking more
About it in the beginning,
How you are going to do
Something in the first
Place.
That is what we are focus on
This year.
And it's really quite
Exciting.
But even it is at the nexus
Of what the future of the
Partnership between
Government and ngos and
Private industry will be.
And it's what you were
Talking about earlier, this
Idea that these are not an
Tag nis stick forces.
They can be counterveiling
Forces but they must at some
Level be symbiotic.
They must work together.
let me give you an
Example of the places in
America that are doing well.
Anybody here from san diego?
San diego is... There you
Go.
One of our great naval
Cities, and it still is.
But it is also the center of
Human genome research in
America.
Private sector, craig vinner
Was in a race in affect with
The international government
Con sorecious with the
Sequencing genome in 20
Thousand.
Started with a bipartisan
Commitment to federal
Research at the end of
President bush's term and I
Put $3 billion of your money
In it.
jon: Mine... .
and it's already, I was
At st. Jude's children's
Hospital in memphis just
About three weeks ago
Looking at children whose
Lives have been saved
Because we now can see how
Their difference, genetic
Difference require different
Medicine to cure the same
Kind of cancer it was
Unbelievable.
Okay.
So you have got his
Foundation, and then you've
Got the university of
California san diego medical
Diag putting out all these
Scientists.
You have the republican
Mayor of san diego inviting
People in, and the biggest
Computer company, qualcomm
Headed by a democrat, and
They have spawned 700 more
Computer companies.
And san diego, why?
Because you have the
Government, the nonprofit
Sector, and the business is
Sector working together to
Do this.
Orlando has 100 computer
Simulation companies, why?
Disney world, universal
Theme park, they need those
Computer simulators.
The global ent tainted.
Arch video game, anybody
That has ever been like me
Hooked on a video game knows
That you have to have good
Simulation to keep yourself
In a constant state of
Anxiety... And wait a minute,
And the defense department
And nasa and they all put
Money in there together and
The university of central
Florida has 63,000 students,
They feed them in.
Why are they doing that?
Because when they work
Together, they are so much
More powerful than when they
Sit around and fight all the
Time.
What is the result, 100 new
Computer simulation
Companies.
That is what is working in
America today.
Look, this economics is not
Ideology.
It's hard work.
And it's seeing what the
Competition is doing.
Analyzing the alternative.
jon: Results oriented,
Merit its oriented.
and keeping score, that
Is what america needs, we
Need to gent the show on the
Road here and stop all this
Kind of mindless and
Fighting.
(cheers and applause)
jon: Ladies and gentlemen,
President bill clinton,
We'll be right back.
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Guys, when I was a boy, when
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Becoming famous would make
Me happy.