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and it's late November 2015 this week 这是本周的 2015年11月下旬
John Palmer the award-winning author of 约翰帕尔默是获奖作家
how to brew joins me to discuss German 如何酿造加入我讨论德语
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at beer Smith calm and now let's jump 在啤酒史密斯平静，现在让我们跳
into this week's episode my guest today 进入本周的剧集今天我的客人
is mr. John Palmer John is the author of 是先生。 约翰帕尔默约翰是作者
how to brew the top-selling beer brewing 如何酿造最畅销的啤酒酿造
book in the world as well as water and 预订世界以及水和
brewing classic styles John also join me 酿造经典款式约翰也和我一起
for the how to brew video series 如何酿造视频系列
available from beer Smith comm slash DVD 从啤酒史密斯COMM斜线DVD
John it's great to have you on the show 约翰，很高兴你有这个节目
well thanks Brett it's great to be here 非常感谢Brett，很高兴来到这里
so we were together just a couple weeks 所以我们在一起只有几个星期
ago at the Wisconsin beer foot craft 以前在威斯康星州的啤酒脚踏船
beer festival a lot of fun there where 那里的啤酒节很有趣
have you been going since then though I 从那以后你有没有去过我
understand you took a big trip your 明白你走了一大段路
reason yeah I recently was in Germany in 是的，我最近在德国
Bamberg visiting wireman malts they're 班贝格访问铁丝网麦芽他们是
having their annual open house and 有他们的年度开放日和
Bavarian fest and there's really a lot 巴伐利亚节日，真的很多
of fun it sounds rough yeah yeah yeah 有趣的是，听起来很粗，是的，是的，是的
lots of lots of beer and sausages and 很多啤酒和香肠
polka music about the great bunch of 波尔卡音乐讲述了一大堆
people 人
really had a great time there and then 真的有一个伟大的时间那里，然后
after Bombur going went down to 在Bombur去了之后
nürnberg for a day and then on down to 纽伦堡一天，然后下来
fry singh and visited the thinking of 炒辛格并参观了思想
some friends at the Technical Institute 技术学院的一些朋友
there university there in Munich in 有大学有在慕尼黑
freising and of course wireman is one of 自由，当然，铁丝网是其中之一
the larger maltsters right right yeah 较大的麦芽威士忌是对的
very good monster a lot of great 非常好的怪物很棒
products and we had a lot of fun doing a 产品，我们有很多的乐趣做
pilot batch brewing a smoked oat 试点批酿造燕麦片
Octoberfest wheat beer so Oh Octoberfest小麦啤酒如此哦
smoked oh tweet Oktoberfest beer yes 烟熏哦推特慕尼黑啤酒节啤酒是的
Erna sorry okay there we go oak smoked Erna抱歉，我们去橡木烟熏
wheat malt beer no it's just so it's all 小麦麦芽啤酒没有它就是这样
tweet then yeah smoke to eat with oak it 然后推特是的，用橡木烟吃它
was a little tongue twister trying to 试图做一个小绕口令
say yeah say it five times really fast 说是的，它说五次真快
yeah I can't okay well today we're gonna 是的我今天不能好，我们会的
talk a little bit about German wheat 谈谈德国小麦
beers I think and you you know you just 啤酒，我想你和你了解你
got back from there I assume you sampled 从那里回来我假设你采样了
some and a few a few yeah can you can 一些和几个，是的，你可以
you start by describing what some of the 你先从描述一些内容开始
major wheat styles are well there's 主要的小麦风格很好
three three I guess dominant styles that 三三我认为主导风格
you read about in the BJCP there's the 你在BJCP中读过的就是
Bavarian Vice beer or white s'en which 巴伐利亚副啤酒或白色s'en哪个
is a lot like just saying wheat Pale Ale 就像只说小麦淡啤酒一样
it's a very broad category and a lot of 这是一个非常广泛的类别和很多
Brewers in Germany you know brew wheat 你知道德国啤酒酿造小麦
Pale Ales with the wheat you know the 苍白的麦芽酒与小麦你知道的
the phenol and clove or clove yeast 酚和丁香或丁香酵母
strain yeah Bavarian I think they called 应该是的巴伐利亚我认为他们打电话
the Varian we east yes or why stamina is 我们东方的瓦里安是或者为什么是耐力
another another word I've heard right 另一个我听过的话
right has that distinctive banana and 没有那种独特的香蕉和香蕉
clove flavor to it and so you get a you 丁香的味道，所以你得到了你
get a lot of different wheat beers 得到很多不同的小麦啤酒
different colors the 不同颜色的
word vise refers both to white and to 单词vise指的是白色和
wheat and you know so these are 小麦， 你知道这些是
predominantly a pale beer a half of Ison 主要是淡啤酒，是Ison的一半
can be more pale and that's a sub style 可以更苍白，这是一种子风格
of Feist beer where then you can also 那时你也可以喝Feist啤酒
have some amber and red versions as well 也有一些琥珀色和红色版本
with and without the east so you've got 有没有东方所以你有
your you got your basic vice beers 你得到了基本的副啤酒
including Hefeweizen and crystal you've 包括Hefeweizen和水晶你
got your Dunkel vice which are a dark 得到你的Dunkel副，这是一个黑暗
beer and kind of very similar in terms 啤酒和一种非常相似的术语
of like a amber ale or brown ale in the 的像在一个琥珀色ALE或棕色麦酒
2a compared to a pale ale and these 2a与淡啤酒和这些相比
beers are darker versions of the 啤酒是更深的版本
standard vice beer and have some toast 标准副啤酒并有一些吐司
caramel notes to them and just add a lot 焦糖对他们说，只是添加了很多
of warmth to the to the beer style all 所有的啤酒风格的温暖
of these viewers are intended to be 这些观众的目的是
session beers they're only about you 会话啤酒他们只是关于你
know four and a half five percent 知道百分之四点五
alcohol most 1050 OG sort of thing 酒精大多数1050 OG的东西
but they do make a strong version known 但他们确实知道一个强大的版本
as a vison bock and that's you know 作为一个vison bock，你知道吗？
exactly what it says is its strong wheat 正是它所说的是强劲的小麦
beer along the lines of say a Bock or 啤酒沿着说Bock 或者
double Bock in terms of you know the 就你所知，双博克
other you know tip traditional lager 其他你知道提示传统的啤酒
styles and they're brewed with 风格和他们酿造的
predominantly all of these beers are 主要是这些啤酒是
predominantly brewed with wheat at least 至少主要用小麦酿造
50% sometimes as much as 60 65 70 % 50％有时高达6065 70％
wheat used in the grist bill so a lot of 在谷物法案使用，因此很多小麦
these are tied closely to bavaria did 这些与巴伐利亚密切相关
you learn anything a little bit about 你学到什么东西约一点点
the history while you were there well 你在那里的历史很好
yes um you can probably better off 是的， 你可能会更好
reading say Stan's book you know on 阅读说你知道斯坦的书
brewing wheat beer to get the real story 酿造小麦啤酒，以获得真实的故事
but from what I remember wheat beer was 但从我记得小麦啤酒是
a loved kind of an invention or a 喜欢的发明或者
proprietary brand of nobility in the 自主品牌贵族的
1600s and 17世纪和17世纪
Brewed and you know license to that one 酿造，你知道那个的许可证
family and they they brewed it and then 家人和他们一起酿造它
by the early 1800s that brewery had gone 到了19世纪初，啤酒厂已经消失了
out of business for that family had had 这个家庭的生意已经过去了
ended their brewing and then Schneider 结束了他们的酿造，然后是施奈德
was a Schneider and son picked up the 是一个施奈德和儿子拿起了
brand in Osh not sure way here late 奥什的品牌在这里不太确定
1800s Early 1900s okay and they you know 19世纪初19世纪初好吗，他们你知道
revived the style and it has become much 恢复了风格，它已经变得很多
more popular in the last you know 70 70 在最后你知道70 70更受欢迎
years or so and you can you know find 大约一年，你知道吗
lots of wheat beer brewers all around 周围有很多小麦啤酒酿造商
southern Germany its Bavaria is in the 德国南部的巴伐利亚州
southern part of Germany it's like the 德国南部的部分就好像
southern state or counties and so these 南部州，县等这些
are predominantly referred to as a 主要被称为a
southern beer style those are southern 那些南方的南方啤酒风格
wheat beer style there are northern 小麦啤酒风格有北方
wheat beer style such as Berliner Weisse 小麦啤酒风格如Berliner Weisse
which is you know a a slightly sour or 你知道这有点酸或者
you know wheat beer a little in much 你知道小麦啤酒有点多了
paler and lower gravity than these 比这些更苍白，重力更低
Dunkel vice or what vice box and but you Dunkel副或什么副箱而且你
know the the the the Reinheitsgebot in 知道了在中纯净法
fact kind of the German German purity 事实上德国人的纯洁
law right 法律权利
yeah the German beer Purity law actually 是的德国啤酒纯度法实际上
prevented you know brewing wheat beer 阻止你知道酿造小麦啤酒
and now that's why one reason why I was 而现在这就是为什么我的原因之一
reserved to a to one family again my my 保留给一个家庭我的我的
history on these may not be perfect so 这些历史可能并不完美
there's a lot of other oh that's fine 还有很多其他的哦，没关系
yeah but I mean it's an interesting 是的，但我的意思是这是一个有趣的
story and being there in Germany it was 故事，在德国就 在那里
just amazing experience to really get a 真正获得一个惊人的经验
sense of the history and seeing some of 历史感和看到的一些
these breweries and realizing that 这些啤酒厂实现了这一点
they've been you know in production for 他们一直都知道你的生产
the last you know two hundred four 最后你知道二百四十四
hundred even a thousand years you know 你知道甚至一千年
and some in some cases 还有一些在某些情况下
there in Germany so great brewing 在德国有如此伟大的酿造
tradition there and it was a lot of fun 那里的传统很有趣
awesome 真棒
well what are some of the 那么什么是一些
characteristics to make the German wheat 制作德国小麦的特点
beer so unique well again it's it's the 啤酒如此独特，再次它是它的
high percentage of wheat malt 小麦芽的比例很高
it's the characteristic banana and you 这是特色香蕉和你
know fruity esters the clove phenyl 知道水果酯丁香苯
character that comes from the east these 是从东边这些字符
are very low bitterness beers the act 是非常低的苦味啤酒的行为
the emphasis is definitely on the malt 重点肯定是麦芽
these are a soft bread II warm session 这些是温暖的面包II温暖的会议
beer and the clove and banana aromas 啤酒和丁香和香蕉的香气
really act as a complement to that soft 真的是对那种柔软的补充
bready body and you know in base beer bready身体，你知道在基础啤酒
then you're not brewing an aggressively 那你就不是在咄咄逼人
hopped beer by any stretch of 任何一段时间都可以喝啤酒
imagination you shouldn't be tasting 想象力你不应该品尝
hops really in these beers although some 有些啤酒真是在这些啤酒中
subtle character may be present and 可能存在微妙的特征
you're not brewing a beer that where the 你没有酝酿的是，当一个啤酒
the yeast character is the dominant 酵母特征是主导的
characteristic again is since me it's 特征再次是因为我
meant to be an accent it'sa meant to be 意味着要成为一种口音
a warm pretty malt character with 温暖漂亮的麦芽与性格
accents of fruit and cloves to give it 水果和丁香的口音给它
some some liveliness mmm what are the 一些活力mmm是什么
differences between German Hefeweizen 德国Hefeweizen之间的差异
regular wheat beer and Cristal okay well 普通小麦啤酒和Cristal还好
um these are you know kind of like sub 嗯， 这些你知道有点像sub
styles of Vice beer a regular high 副啤酒的风格定期很高
spirit which again is kind of like 精神再次有点像
referring to Pale Ale you know there's a 指的是淡啤酒，你知道有一个
lot of different sub styles you know 你知道很多不同的子风格
East you know here in the United States 东知道这里在美国
East Coast West Coast ALL terms of the 东海岸西海岸所有条款
hopping rates well in Germany you'll 在德国你的跳跃率很高
have half of Ison you'll have Cristal 有一半的Ison，你会有Cristal
which is a filtered Vice beer brewed 这是一款经过过滤的副啤酒酿造而成
with the same yeast brewed 用相同的酵母酿造
cases with the same Chris bill the main 案件与主要的克里斯法案相同
difference being that the yeast is 差异在于酵母是
filtered out to make the body a little 过滤掉身体一点点
bit lighter and more visually appealing 位更轻，更视觉吸引力
so not everybody not every brewery has 所以不是每个啤酒厂都不是
both a half and a crystal some will have 两个半和晶体有的则要
one or the other depending on their 一方或另一方取决于其
preference the the flavor profile 喜欢风味特征
between these different beer these 这些不同啤酒之间的这些
different styles is is very very similar 不同的款式是非常相似的
the the again the clove and phenol are 丁香和苯酚也是如此
sorry the clove and esters from the east 对不起来自东方的丁香和酯类
act as an accent a nice nice accent to 充当口音一个很好的口音
the beer so here's a here's a picture I 啤酒所以这里是一张照片我
guess of to what this looks like 猜测这是什么样的
looks like at least to me you get the 看起来至少对我来说你得到了
clear on the on the left and the hefa on 清楚左边和hefa上
the right right right and earning nur is 右右和赚钱是
one brew that does does you know both 一个泡制，做不你都知道
versions you can also see the white 版本你也可以看到白色
fluffy head here they obviously they 蓬松的头在这里他们显然是他们
very highly carbonate these beers right 非常高度碳酸盐这些啤酒吧
yes you know that's another 是的，你知道那是另一个
characteristic of these beers I didn't 这些啤酒的特点我没有
think to mention that these would be 想提一下，这些都是
these will be carbonated too like three 这些将被碳化得像三个
and a half four volumes of co2 versus 和四分之二的二氧化碳对比
say a typical two to two and a half 比如典型的两到两个半
volumes for most American styles yeah 大多数美国风格的卷是啊
and they have if I recall when I was in 如果我记得我在的时候他们就有
Germany they have so much carbonation 德国他们有这么多的碳酸化
they actually pour it in stages right 他们实际上正好分阶段浇灌它
yes they do they'll they'll start 是的他们会这样他们会开始
pouring set it aside let that phone let 把它放在一边让那个电话让
the head subside a bit and then they'll 头稍微平息然后他们会
bring it back and fill it you know until 把它带回去填充你知道的直到
they until they get the beer level up to 他们，直到他们得到的啤酒水平 达到
the right level and maintain a nice head 正确的水平，保持良好的头脑
on top trying to let's look at my saw my 在顶部试图让我看看我看到了我的
notes here again you will with in wheat 这里再次指出，你会用小麦
beer you'll have both amber and red 啤酒你会有琥珀色和红色
versions where the amber will be a nice 琥珀会很好的版本
soft amber orange color and the red 柔和的琥珀色橙色和红色
versions would be 版本将是
have some extra say Kara wheat or you 有一些额外的说卡拉麦或你
know medium crystal malts in there some 知道一些中等水晶麦芽
darker you know some traces of dark 你知道一些黑暗的痕迹
crystal to give a nice red color like a 水晶给人一种漂亮的红色
sunset and that's a very popular style 夕阳，这是一种非常流行的风格
variation there in Germany so let's look 德国那里的变化 让我们看看吧
at a typical German rice beer what is a 在一个典型的德国大米啤酒是什么
profile of it look like you know color 它的轮廓看起来像你知道的颜色
bitterness gravity where are we yeah 苦涩引力我们在哪里
well in terms of the color you're 就你的颜色而言
looking at two to six SRM which is 看着二至六个SRM是
equivalent to 4 to 12 EBC so it's it's a 相当于4到12个EBC所以它就是一个
pale gold to yellow kind of color at the 淡金色到黄色的那种颜色
high end at 6 SRM you'll see starting to 6 SRM的高端你会看到开始
go to a little deeper gold almost amber 去更深一点的黄金几乎琥珀色
but again typically pale and that's 但同样通常脸色苍白，那就是
where the device the white name 设备的白名称
description for these beers comes from 这些啤酒的描述来自
the gravity on these beers is not high 这些啤酒的重力不高
typically the original gravity is 典型的原始重力是
anywhere from 1044 to 1050 - and that's 从1044到1050的任何地方- 那就是
you know producing four and a half to 你知道生产四个半
five percent ABV the IBUs are low eight 百分之八的 ABV IBU低八
to fifteen because again you really 到十五岁，因为你真的
don't want to taste hops you just want 不想品尝你想要的啤酒花
just enough bitterness to balance the 只是足够的苦涩来平衡
sweetness of the malt but you know this 麦芽的甜味，但你知道这一点
is a this is a malt beer that you're 这是一种麦芽啤酒，你是
drinking so you can't just wave the hops 喝酒所以你不能只是挥动啤酒花
over the top of the yeah yeah yeah 在耶的顶部是的，是的
perhaps not as much as Budweiser des but 也许并不像 百威，但宫
you know what close yeah yeah it's you 你知道什么是接近是的是的，是你
know these are light sessionable beers 知道这些是轻质的会话啤酒
the Dunkel Wyson is a little darker and Dunkel Wyson有点暗
that's going from 14 to 23 SRM so 那是从14到23SRM
there's a little bit of a gap there you 还有的差距一点点有你
know you're kind of skipping over the 知道你有点跳过了
amber color zone the amber - - copper 琥珀色区琥珀色- 铜色
right again because 再好吧因为
that's that's often and in not in terms 那是经常而不是根本的
of the BJCP style but in terms of the BJCP风格，但在
actual typical German beers that you 你真正的典型德国啤酒
drinkin that you find in Germany they 你在德国找到他们的饮料
include those amber colors but a Dunkel 包括那些琥珀色但是Dunkel
is has a some more caramel malt some 有一些焦糖麦芽
toast malt some melanoidins added in and 吐司麦芽 加入了一些黑精和
it helps to change the flavor profile of 它有助于改变的风味概况
the beer from a soft white bread to a 从柔软的白面包到啤酒
deep dark bread a richness and kind of a 深深的黑面包丰富而有种
sweetness warmer bread flavor to the 甜味温暖的面包味道
beer again with those same esters neuro 啤酒再次与那些相同的酯类神经
and phenols too you know to liven up the 和酚类你也知道要活跃起来
aroma same kind of hot profile you know 你知道，同样的热门香气
that is very little to none but now 除了现在 ，这几乎没有
you're going from a soft bread to a rich 你要从软面包变成富人
bread warmer beer if it's old 面包加温啤酒，如果它已经老了
so John walk us through brewing a 约翰带我们去酿造一个
typical Vice beer starting with a grain 典型的副啤酒从谷物开始
bill okay well um you start off with 好吧，好吧，你开始吧
about 65% let's say wheat malt that's a 大约65％让我们说小麦麦芽是一种
good number good starting point 好数字好起点
typically the next malty is either a 通常下一个麦芽是a
very fine pilsner malt or a Vienna malt 非常好的比尔森麦芽或维也纳麦芽
is also a popular choice at about 30% of 也是约30％的 受欢迎的选择
the grain of the grist bill and then 然后是谷物法案
you'll have say 3% of like a caramel 30 你会说3％像焦糖30
or Karastan you know kind of a medium 或Karastan你知道一种媒介
crystal malt to give it some color again 水晶麦芽再给它点颜色
you know Joe's hints of orange and to 你知道乔的橙色和暗示
kind of liven it up and then very often 有点活泼，然后经常
the Brewers will use like two to three 酿酒师将使用两到三个
percent acidulated malt this is to help 酸化麦芽的百分比这是有帮助的
get the pH of the mash that would be we 得到我们的糊状物的pH值
call it acid mole right yes 称之为酸痣是的
right and that's the malt that has a 正确的，这就是 具有麦芽
lactic acid in it or you know coating it 其中的乳酸或你知道涂上它
and helps bring your mash 并帮助带来你的土豆泥
down closer to that 5.2 level that the 接近那个5.2级的那个
Brewers strive for and mash PHS is very 酿酒商争取和混合PHS非常
important in these pale beers to make to 在这些淡啤酒做出重要
keep them lively if the pH of these pale 如果这些苍白的pH值，让他们保持活泼
beers climbs to say like five six or 啤酒爬上去说像五六或
higher then you don't get the the 高于你没有得到的
brightness from the malt character it 来自麦芽特征的亮度吧
becomes a much softer and not as 变得更柔软，而不是
interesting beer to drink and what kind 有趣的啤酒喝什么的
of hops do you recommend for for rice 啤酒花你推荐用于米饭
bread well uh hops should be your 面包好吧呃啤酒花应该是你的
traditional German varieties assault 传统的德国品种攻击
hollow tower middle frou techni 空心塔中间技术
some of the newer varieties like hollow 一些较新的品种，如空心
tile tradition or opal Saphir most 瓷砖传统或蛋白石Saphir最
another one others others a lot of 另外一个人其他人很多
mandarina is another recent addition so mandarina是另一个新近添加的
a lot of the flavor I should say do you 很多我应该说的味道
anything unusual during the mass or the 在群众或群众中任何不寻常的事情
boil process yeah the German Brewers 煮沸过程是的德国酿酒人
traditionally use a decoction mash with 传统上使用煎汤
these beers and the reason for that is 这些啤酒及其原因是
because you have so much more protein in 因为你有更多的蛋白质
the wheat malts than you do the barley 小麦麦芽比你大麦麦芽
malt a lot more gluten you know it makes 麦芽你知道它 更多的麸质
up the total protein of a wheat beer and 提高小麦啤酒的总蛋白质
so they'll use a long protein rest to 因此，他们将使用长蛋白质休息
kind of break that up some more get some 有点休息，有些人会得到一些
better extract out of the malt and make 更好地从麦芽中提取出来
them the words in the mash less and 他们在土豆泥中的话少了
viscous much easier to handle into water 粘性更容易处理成水
so they'll do a decoction mash and often 所以他们经常做煎汤
starting off this it can be a single or 从这开始它可以是单个或
double decoction if they do a double 双煎汤，如果他们做双倍
decoction they may very well start out 汤剂他们可能很好地开始
in what we call the freulich acid rest 我们称之为氟尿酸休息
range which is about 40 degrees C 40 43 范围大约是40℃4043
which works out to about 108 to 这可以达到大约108到
ten degrees Fahrenheit and they'll let 华氏 十度 ，他们会放过
that rest there for about 10-15 minutes 在那里休息大约10-15分钟
and then boost that up to the protein 然后将其提升到蛋白质
rest and let and let the protein rest go 休息，让让蛋白质休息去吧
for about 10-15 minutes and then they'll 大约10-15分钟，然后他们会
pull a decoction from their braised the 从他们的红烧中 取出汤剂
decoction up to the sacrificial 煎煮至牺牲
temperature say you know 65 C maybe even 温度说你知道65C甚至可能
up Saiga 67 68 let it rest there for a 高达67羚羊68让它休息有 一
few minutes then bring it to a boil let 几分钟然后把它煮沸
it boil for about 10 minutes and then 它煮约10分钟，然后
bring that decoction back into the main 把那个汤剂带回主体
mash and that will raise the temperature 捣碎，这将提高温度
of them of the main mash up to your 他们的主要混搭到你的
sacrifice in step which again 65 degrees 再次牺牲65度
C 150 152 degrees Fahrenheit and that's C 150 152华氏度，那是
what they're trying to do 他们想要做什么
they'll also then do a mash out say 然后他们也会做一个混搭说
around 165 170 degrees Fahrenheit and 大约165 170华氏度和
they may do that by direct heating you 他们可以通过直接加热你这样做
know dick these are modern breweries so 知道这些是现代啤酒厂所以
even though they do a decoction the 尽管他们做了汤剂
they're you know mashing vessels or 他们你知道捣碎的船只或者
steam jacketed and you know fully heated 蒸汽夹套，你知道充分加热
just like anywhere else so so I they do 就像其他地方一样，所以我他们这样做
a mash out and I assume we're just a 混搭，我认为我们只是一个
traditional sponge at that point right 传统的海绵在那一点上
yes using all that wheat makes makes the 是的，使用小麦制造的所有产品
beers you know much harder to water the 啤酒，你知道更难浇水
water tends to take a little bit longer 水往往需要更长的时间
but again that long you know protein 但是那么久你就会知道蛋白质
rest during the mashing process helps 在糖化过程中休息有帮助
break up some of that viscosity to 打破一些粘度
anything one of their aspects come into 他们的任何一个方面都会产生
play the the boil is also changed from 玩熬也改变了
say a traditional barley loCash boil the 说传统的大麦loCash沸腾了
boil times tend to be about an hour and 煮沸时间往往是一个小时左右
a half to two hours because there's a 一半到两个小时， 因为有一个
lot more protein to coagulate in the 更多的蛋白质凝结在
boil 煮
I'm so fairly long boil fairly long boil 我很相当长熬相当长疖
you you do have again with wheat malts 你还有小麦麦芽
you have a very low killing temperature 你的杀伤温度很低
these are not you know Highland kilns so 这些都不是你知道的高地窑
they're very similar to your your 他们很相似，你对你的
standard pilsner malt which have a lot 标准比尔森麦芽，有很多
of DMS precursor in them so which is 其中的DMS前体就是这样的
yeah so the longer boil also helps 是的，所以更长的沸腾也有帮助
reduce the DMS then right yes 减少DMS然后是的
very much so and so you you really don't 非常如此，你真的没有
want DMS or other off flavors and these 想要DMS或其他异味和这些
you know light and you know really very 你知道光，你知道的非常
lightly flavored beers because it really 轻微的味道啤酒， 因为它真的
sticks out now you mentioned earlier a 现在你提到了一个问题
lot of the flavor in these beers is 这些啤酒的味道很多
derived from the Bavarian wheat yeast 来自巴伐利亚小麦酵母
that's used what's so special about this 那用起来就是这么特别的
yeast well it's it's what we call a 酵母很好，这就是我们所说的
phenol off flavor positive yeast and 苯酚脱味风味阳性酵母和
that is and and in some regards it's 这是和在某些方面它是
very your your traditional baking yeast 非常你的传统烘焙酵母
tend to be this same kind of phenol off 往往是同样的苯酚脱落
flavor positive if you were to try to do 如果你试图做的 话味道很好
some home brewing with a traditional 一些传统的家庭酿造
baking yeast you would get some of these 烤酵母你会得到一些这些
strong phenols but in the case of the 强酚类但在的情况下
these German wheat beer yeast this is 这是德国小麦啤酒酵母
this strain it's a strain that's been in 这种应变是一种已经存在的应变
you know continuous use for hundreds of 你知道连续使用数百个
years and it's one a you know they 多年，这是你知道的一个
maintain a lot it produces of chemical 保持很多它产生的化学物质
we call for VG which is a long name 我们呼吁VG这是一个很长的名字
basically a phenol that gives that 基本上是苯酚给出了
characteristic clove flavor and the 特色丁香的味道和
source of that chemical is the Fralick 这种化学物质的来源是Fralick
acid which is present in malt Boulton 麦芽布尔顿中存在的酸
barley malt and wheat malt but there's a 大麦麦芽和小麦麦芽，但有一个
lot more of an in wheat malt and like I 小麦麦芽和我一样多
said you can do a flick acid rest during 说你可以做一次轻弹酸休息
the match to enhance the amount of that 比赛进行到提升的量
acid that's in the malt in it and then 酸中的麦芽然后在麦芽中
when you get to fermentation the yeast 当你发酵酵母
metabolize that freulich acid to produce 代谢产生的氟尿嘧啶酸
that 4vg compound and so that's where 那4vg化合物就是这样的
that flavor that characteristic flavor 那种特色风味的味道
comes from these are the wet wine Stefan 来自这些是 Stefan 的湿酒
wheat beer yeast wlp 300 Y yeast needed 小麦啤酒酵母wlp 300Y酵母需要
to find that number 20 papers here on my 我在这里找到20篇论文
desk that's okay anyway there we go 无论如何我们去的桌子都没关系
30:56 why is 30 56 is the other : these 30:56为什么30 56是另一个：这些
these yeasts are a top cropping yeast 这些酵母是顶级种植酵母
and open fermentation is very 和开放式发酵非常
traditional in these german breweries 这些德国啤酒厂的传统
for brewing wheat beers and the open 用于酿造小麦啤酒和开放式啤酒
open fermentation helps enhance the 开放式发酵有助于提高
ester profile one there's a lot of art 酯谱有一个很多的艺术
to producing a really good Bavarian 生产一个非常好的巴伐利亚人
wheat beer you want a balance between 小麦啤酒你想要平衡
the fruity esters and the clove you 果味酯和丁香你
don't want one you know dominating the 不要一个你知道支配的人
other you don't want it to be District 其他你不希望它是区
Li banana you don't want to be strictly 李香蕉你不想严格
clove you want them nice balanced and it 丁香，你希望他们平衡和它
also you don't want so much ester and 你也不要那么多酯和
clove that the beer ends up tasting like 丁香，啤酒最终品尝如此
bubblegum bubblegum a readily 泡泡糖泡泡糖很容易
identifiable bubblegum aroma is a flaw 可识别的泡泡糖香气是一个缺陷
you so there's like I say there's a 你这就像我说的那样
delicate balance between looking for 寻找之间的微妙平衡
balance and complexity of the esters 酯的平衡和复杂性
both banana apricot pear apple peach you 香蕉杏梨苹果桃子你
know these you know a medley of fruit 知道这些你知道的水果混合物
flavor a flip fruit aromas besides 另外还有一种翻转水果香味
banana balancing the clove too to make 香蕉平衡丁香也是如此
for a very interesting wheat beer and so 对于一个非常有趣的小麦啤酒等
all this comes back to the fermentation 这一切又回到 发酵
the yeast the pitching rates and the the 酵母的投球率和投球率
fermentation well that's John let's talk 发酵很好，约翰让我们谈谈
about that for a minute what do you do 关于那一分钟你做了什么
special during fermentation ageing 发酵过程中特别老化
pitching the oxygenate 投球含氧化合物
to make it perform well yeah 使它表现良好是的
pitching rates typically you're looking 投球率通常你正在寻找
at like a 1.2 million cells per 就像每个120万个细胞一样
milliliter kind of pitching rate so a 毫升的投球率如此a
little high a little higher than a nail 比指甲略高一点
but not quite a larger right right and 但权利并没有那么大
you're looking at open fermentation now 你现在正在看开放式发酵
at the last year's national home brewing 在去年的全国家庭酿造
conference one of the barley angels from 来自大麦天使之一的会议
Milwaukee 密尔沃基
Paula cartridge a real nice presentation 宝拉墨盒是一个非常好的演示文稿
on her efforts to brew a better wheat 她努力酿造出更好的小麦
beer and she experimented with open 啤酒和她试验开放
fermentation using plastic storage bins 使用塑料储存箱发酵
like you get at Target and versus say 就像你得到Target 而不是说
the you know our traditional buckets or 你知道我们传统的桶或
other fermenters and reported a definite 其他发酵罐并报告确定
difference in the amount of ester that 酯量的差异
she obtained in the beer as a result so 她在啤酒获得的结果使
it this mimics the way that the German 这模仿了德国人的方式
Brewers make de beers these wide shallow 酿酒商将这些广泛的浅色啤酒制成啤酒
fermenters that they can easily skim the 发酵罐，他们可以轻松地撇去
hop residue the produc old break in her 跳残余产品老破了她
sorry the hot break residue another you 对不起你的热休息残渣
know in in the in the fermentation pull 知道在发酵拉动中
that off and then top crop the yeast for 关闭然后顶部裁剪酵母
you know subsequent batches 你知道后续的批次
that an open fermentation you know 你知道的开放式发酵
allows better access to oxygen makes the 允许更好地获取氧气使
yeast you know the this yeast is used to 酵母，你知道这种酵母是习惯的
a lot of oxygen and if you don't have it 很多，如果你没有它的氧气和
then you're gonna get either suppressed 然后你会受到压制
ester production where the faint the 酯类生产的地方微弱的
females will dominate the beer or if you 女性会主宰啤酒， 或者如果你
conversely if you oxygen too much you 相反，如果你氧气太多了
can get the esters dominating sorry yet 能获得主导对不起尚未酯类
the phenols dominating again because the 由于苯酚，酚类再次占据主导地位
ester production will be suppressed so 酯生产将被如此抑制
there's a lot of balance in the 还有很多平衡的
and the way these are fermented so you 以及这些发酵的方式让你如此
want some ester production are you are 想要一些酯类生产你是谁
you fermenting fairly warm then no the 你发酵相当温暖，然后没有
there again this is there's some 再一次，这是有一些
variability I think on the homebrew 我认为自制的可变性
scale talking to Jamil and other people 与Jamil和其他人 交谈
that brew we'd peers such as Harold GU 我们和HaroldGU 这样的同行酿造
Branson of from quaff in San Diego they 来自quaff的布兰森在圣地亚哥他们
prefer a temperature of like 62 degrees 喜欢62度的温度
so lunar on the cooler side but the key 所以月球在较冷的一侧，但关键
is to let that fermentation will start 是让发酵开始
rising start free rising after the first 第一次上升后开始自由上升
two days two to three days of 两天两到三天
fermentation to let that free rise up a 发酵让自由升起了
couple of degrees to say 6465 even up to 几度说6465甚至高达
68 by the end of fermentation and this 68 发酵结束和此
helps to clean up any diacetyl in the 有助于清理任何双乙酰
beer and also again it Courage's these 啤酒，还有勇气的这些
these esters and phenols that were that 这些酯类和酚类就是这样的
you're looking for in the beer so you're 你正在寻找啤酒，所以你
looking for more of a late ester 寻找更多的晚酯
production not necessarily too early in 生产不一定太早
the in the fermentation then huh well 在发酵中然后好吧
yeah or esters are actually produced 是的还是酯类实际产生的
very early in the fermentation within 在内部发酵很早
the first 36 hours typically but what 通常前36个小时，但是什么
you don't want to happen is you don't 你不想发生的事情就是你没有
want these these aroma compounds to be 想要这些芳香化合物
am overshadowed by say diacetyl and the 我认为双乙酰和白藜芦醇已经黯然失色了
seagull died which can can happen so you 海鸥死了，这可能发生在你身上
want you want to keep that initial 想要保持最初的状态
fermentation temperature a little on the 发酵温度稍高
lower end and really prevent any fusil 低端，真正防止任何fusil
alcohols from forming during the 在此过程中形成的醇类
fermentation and allow these esters and 发酵并允许这些酯和
phenols to shine free of any off flavors 酚类不含任何异味
in the fermentation so how do you finish 在发酵过程中如何完成
out and then either bottle or carbonate 出来然后是瓶子或碳酸盐
the beer right so these beers again ale 啤酒对， 所以这些啤酒再次啤酒
styled are not really lager doll though 风格虽然不是真正的大型娃娃
some breweries do you know do some cold 你知道有些酿酒厂会感冒吗？
cold crashing to help clarify them 冷崩溃以帮助澄清它们
but typically they everybody agrees that 但通常他们每个人都同意这一点
these beers need to be drank when 这些啤酒需要在喝的时候喝
they're fresh within say the first two 说前两个是新鲜的
months preferably it's not a matter of 几个月最好不是问题
the beers spoiling quickly or you know 啤酒快速破坏或你知道
sailing or aging badly it's really 航行或老化严重，这是真的
talking to talking to some people the 谈到和一些人交谈
the problem is more that these esters 问题更在于这些酯
and phenols dissipate settle out and 和酚类消散沉淀出来，
they are they in other words these 换句话说，他们就是这些
compounds oxidize with time and 化合物随时间而氧化
disappear from the beer and just the 从啤酒中消失而只是消失了
beer becomes less lively less 啤酒变得不那么活泼
interesting to drink so that's why 喝酒很有趣， 这就是为什么
everybody says drink them fresh is 大家都说喝新鲜的是
because that's when these accents are 因为那是这些口音的时候
most perceptive in the beer and the beer 对啤酒和啤酒最敏感
is more complex now the beer is is both 现在啤酒更复杂了
bottled or filtered and of course most 瓶装或过滤，当然大多数
of the Hefeweizen are served from a Hefeweizen 的供应来自a
bottle with the yeast still in the 瓶子里的酵母还在
bottle right yes the all these beers are 瓶子是的，所有这些啤酒都是
Russians collinear this style is 俄罗斯人共线这种风格是
traditionally bottle aged bottle 传统上瓶装瓶
conditioned so the Brewers will inject 因此，酿酒商会注入
fresh Wert and yeast at bottling time 装瓶时新鲜的Wert和酵母
and then age these beers in the bottle 然后将这些啤酒放入瓶中陈酿
to carbonate them the the work that 将他们的工作碳酸化
they'll use varies between brewery they 他们将在啤酒厂之间使用不同
may not use the same strain sometimes 有时可能不会使用相同的菌株
they'll use their house lager strain 他们将使用他们的房子拉链
because you know at the warmer 因为你知道温暖
temperatures the how the lager strain 温度如何变大
will be a little faster you know more 你会知道的更快一点
drier fermentation than say at the the 更干燥的发酵比在说
original W 68 yeast but then but you 原来写入68酵母但随后但是你
know other breweries do use the the W 60 知道其他啤酒厂确实使用W 60
or the wheat beer yeast has their bottle 或小麦啤酒酵母有他们的瓶子
conditioning yeast 调理酵母
and of course you mentioned these beers 当然，你提到了这些啤酒
are all highly carbonated so I assume 都是高度碳酸化的，所以我假设
your carbon 你的碳
in a pretty high level here yeah again 在这里相当高的水平，是的
three and a half four volumes sometimes 有时会有三个半卷
up to five depending on the brewery so 取决于啤酒厂，最多五个
make sure make sure you have your 确保你有自己的
bottles kid that can withstand that too 瓶子孩子也可以承受这一点
right right yeah I mean and that's why 是的，是的，我的意思是，这就是原因
you see the the the bottles that you're 你看到了，你是瓶子
buying in Germany are these these 在德国买这些是这些
heavier you know one liter you know our 你知道我们知道一升你更重
you know 750 milliliter bottles they can 你知道他们可以750毫升瓶
they can take that kind of pressure you 他们可以把这种压力你
do find keg versions of these beers 找到这些啤酒的桶装版本
around you'll find these beers on draft 在你周围你会发现这些啤酒在吃水
but the more traditional and people say 但更传统和人们说
more flavorful flavorful option is to 更美味的选择是
get to drink them from the bottle I mean 我的意思是从瓶子里喝它们
you know to pour them from the bottle 你知道从瓶子里倒出来的
into a tall glass well how do things 进入一个高大的玻璃井怎么办
change when you're brewing something 当你在酿造东西时改变
else like a vison block for example well 否则就像一个视觉块一样好
for the wiesen Bock again it's a very 对于维森博克来说，这是非常的
it's it's much stronger version of the 这是它的强大版本
style very similar to the a Bock or 风格非常类似于博克或
double Bock in terms of a lager 对于一个啤酒来说，双重博克
you know I'm comparison to a lager style 你知道我比较冷静的风格
so the OG on of eisbock is 1064 to 1090 所以eisbock上的OG是1064到1090
so you know a lot more a lot more for 所以你知道很多 很多更多
mandibles in there but the Gris bill 在那里的下颚，但格里斯法案
itself excuse me is very similar to your 本人请原谅我和你的非常相似
standard wheat beer wiesen Box can be 标准小麦啤酒维森盒即可
either pale or dark that is they can be 任一浅或暗即，它们可以是
you know an Augmented Vice beer or an 你知道增强副啤酒还是啤酒
augmented dunk of ice and the there's a 增加了冰的扣篮，并且有一个
dark version dunk ler yes yeah one keys 黑暗的版本扣篮ler 是的是一把钥匙
key flavour note for the vison Bock is 对于VisonBock来说，关键的味道是
that you want in addition to the 你想要的除了
traditional esters and phenols from the 传统的酯类和酚类
yeast you also want to get malt esters 酵母你也想得到麦芽酯
melanoidins type esters you know coming 你知道的黑色素类酯类
from some dark malts so your melanoidins 从一些黑暗的麦芽，所以你的melanoidins
caramel malts 焦糖麦芽
the fermentation of these high gravity 这些高重力的发酵
beers sometimes I'll add a little bit of 啤酒有时我会加一点点
roast malt such as a chocolate malt 烤麦芽，如巧克力麦芽
and the purpose there is to get these 并且目的是获得这些
stone fruit esters that you get from 你从得到核果酯
melanoidins you don't want to use a lot 黑色素， 你不想使用很多
of roast malt you don't want any roast 烤麦芽你不想烤任何东西
malt character in the beer per se but 啤酒中的麦芽特性本身但是
what you want is complexity you want the 你想要的是你想要的复杂性
addition of some of these these darker 其中一些这些更暗
malts to give you these esters so just 麦芽威士忌给你这些酯类
for complexity so which which row small 对于复杂性，哪一行哪个行
to be recommending again for this this 待此此再次建议
application like like a chocolate wheat 像巧克力小麦一样的应用
malt is it chocolate we yeah yeah or a 麦芽是巧克力我们是啊是啊
pale chocolate regular chocolate malt is 淡巧克力常规巧克力麦芽
also acceptable would but you know keep 也可以接受，但你知道保持
the percentage small what about some of 一些人的百分比小
the new ones that are husk Lasorda 新的那些是稻壳Lasorda
bittered with that one yeah graph a 苦恼那一个是的图表a
little bit of Kraft though but certainly 尽管但肯定有点卡夫
that would add some of the color but you 这会增加一些颜色， 但你
need to the problem with a crapha or a 需要用 crapha或问题
black malt type is that you're gonna get 黑麦芽类型是你会得到的
more color than flavor it's it's the 它的味道比味道更多
chocolate type malts and that degree of 巧克力型麦芽和那种程度的
roast that gives you some of the flavor 烤，给你一些味道
complexity without the say the roast 没有说烤的复杂性
character that you'd get from from a 你从一个角色得到的角色
black multi-or carafe oh yeah there's a 黑色多或玻璃水瓶哦是的有一个
bit more raffia 更多的酒椰
exactly yeah so you want to avoid that 确实是的，所以你想要避免这种情况
you want to jeez you're looking for 你想要jeez你正在寻找
richness so a special be multi very dark 丰富， 所以一个特殊的多非常黑暗
caramel is a good addition because 焦糖是一个很好的补充，因为
they'll give you those complex ester 他们会给你那些复杂的酯
notes and Millwood and sugars you know 笔记和Millwood以及你知道的糖
very um 非常嗯
that'll give you some of that richness 那会给你一些丰富的东西
other you know their caramel malts such 其他你知道他们的焦糖麦芽这样的
as a caramel 60 Carmel 30 caramel 75 作为焦糖60 卡梅尔30焦糖75
caramel 120 焦糖120
those are good balls to use as our 这些都是因为使用好我们的球
biscuit malt sorry melanoidins months 饼干麦芽抱歉melanoidins几个月
you know not necessary caramel but a 你知道没有必要的焦糖，但是
higher killed 更高的死亡
giving you the biscuit and toast flavors 给你饼干和烤面包的味道
that can be very nice in those beers and 那些啤酒可以很好吃
of course a related variation I guess 当然是一个相关的变化我猜
the Dunkle's Vice beer would you use a Dunkle的副啤酒你会用吗？
similar approach for doing something 做某事的类似方法
something like that yeah very much so 类似的东西 呀非常如此
again the Dunkel vice you know fits 再次你知道的Dunkel恶习适合
between the Vice beer and the the wiesen 副啤酒和维森之间
Bock in terms of gravity it's very 博克的引力非常重要
similar to the Vice beer but which 类似于副啤酒，但其中
you're adding these caramel and toast 你加入这些焦糖和烤面包
biscuit malts to give some warmth to the 饼干麦芽给一些暖意
malt profile so just yeah you're just malt profile所以只是，你只是
adding that little bit of malt character 添加一点麦芽特征
make a little more dark bread a little 多做一点黑面包
bit warmer a little bit more complex but 暖和一点儿更复杂 一点点，但
not really increasing the gravity of the 没有真正增加的重力
beer beyond that of the traditional 啤酒超越了传统
advice beer well John do you have any 建议啤酒好约翰你有没有
other tips for brewing the perfect 酿造完美的其他提示
German wheat beer Wow um I would say you 德国小麦啤酒哇嗯，我会说你
know look at look at your your mash look 知道看看你的混搭外观
at that you know a multi-step mash to go 在那，你知道要多步骤的混搭
through these various arrests is is a 通过这些各种逮捕是一个
good approach the decoction I think 我认为好的方法是煎汤
especially in the in the pale versions 特别是在苍白的版本中
like tech auction will really help pull 像科技拍卖会真的有助于拉动
out some of that rich or malt character 一些大富大贵或者麦芽的性格
that you're just not going to get unless 你不会得到除非
you add you know a melanoidins malt 你加你知道一种黑色素麦芽
component to your grain bill yeah you 你的粮食账单的组成部分是的
have you didn't mention that earlier but 你有没有提到过这个，但是
Melvoin malt is one trick you can use to Melvoin麦芽是一招，你可以用它来
kind of simulate it's not exactly the 有点模拟它不完全是
same right decoction right right it has 它具有相同的右煎汤权
some of those deeper malt characters but 其中一些更深层次的麦芽人物，但是
again that's a that's a barley malt so 再说那是一个大麦麦芽所以
it's it's flavors and not going to be 这是它的风味，不会 是
the same as a decocted wheat you know 就像你知道的煎小麦一样
mash and so the flavors gonna be subtly 捣碎，所以味道会微妙
different but you know it's it's still 不同，但你知道它仍然是
beer it's still a very rich you know I'm 啤酒它仍然是一个非常丰富你知道我
satisfying beer so if that's what you 满足啤酒，所以如果这就是你
like if you like it you like it 就像你喜欢它，你喜欢它
the less us mother things hmm 我们妈妈的东西越少嗯
Oh again own emphasize don't go 哦再次自己强调不要去
overboard with the esters in the phenyl 用苯基中的酯过量
don't you know don't raise your 难道你不知道不提高你的
fermentation temperature too high trying 尝试发酵温度太高
to encourage those because what you're 鼓励那些因为你是什么
often going to do is dump one's going to 经常要做的就是抛弃一个人
dominate over the other again you want 再次支配你想要的另一个
these are accents you want complexity 这些是你想要复杂的口音
not not prominence if you will 如果你愿意的话，不要突出
bubblegum is mentioned in the style 风格中提到了泡泡糖
guide as being a an aspect potential 引导作为潜在的方面
aspect of the aroma but I think I think 香气的一面，但我想我想
if you if you get a recognizable 如果你，如果你得到一个识别
bubblegum aroma and flavor out of the 泡泡糖香气和味道出来的
beer it's too much now I would consider 啤酒现在太多了我会考虑
that a flaw 那是一个缺陷
so the Bubblegum comes from what exactly 所以泡泡糖来自究竟是什么
is it it's in all too much too much 是不是太过分了
ester too much ester yeah and you can I 酯太多酯是的，你可以我
mean you may have gone a little too warm 意味着你可能有点过于温暖
you can gone too warm you'll be getting 你可以走得太温暖了
some you know fusil alcohol in there 有些你知道fusil酒精在那里
which will make that those esters pop a 这会使那些酯类流行起来
little more and be a little too sharp 稍微多一点太尖锐
but you want complexity you don't want 但你想要你不想要的复杂性
just banana you want to have banana and 只是香蕉你想要香蕉和
some some apricot some peach you know 你知道一些桃子的一些杏子
glow flavor too in the clove you want 在你想要的丁香中也能发光
that those all to kind of swirl around 那些都是旋转的
each other but if if you affirm it too 对方但如果你确认它太
warm and you get too much ester 温暖，你得到太多的酯
now those esters are going to start 现在这些酯类将开始
dominating it's gonna it's gonna smell 主宰它会闻起来
like juicy fruit gum or bazooka 喜欢多汁的水果口香糖或火箭筒
bubblegum and that's really a flaw so I 泡泡糖，这真的是一个缺陷，所以我
think you'll you'll enjoy the beer more 以为你会更喜欢啤酒
if you can scale that back by watching 如果你可以通过观察来缩小它
your your fermentation temperature and 你的发酵温度和
your pitching rates 你的投球率
well John I want to give you a minute to 约翰，我想给你一分钟
talk a little bit about I get first of 谈谈我先得到的一点
all I noticed you've got a new website 所有我注意到你有一个新的网站
out right yeah finally updated my 出来对是啊终于更新了我的
website it's something I've been wanting 网站这是我一直想要的东西
to do for a long time and there it is 要做很长一段时间，就在那里
how to brew calm yeah 如何酿造平静耶
added references to my other two are 添加了对我的另外两个的引用
like our brewing DVDs some other 像我们酿造DVD其他一些
products I've been working on with 我一直在努力的产品
people these last few years you can see 过去几年你可以看到的人
them and there's links to the brewing 他们和酿酒的链接
Network where we do the brew strong 网络我们做的酿造强大
podcast 播客
there's our DVD that cover there um 有我们的DVD覆盖那里嗯
so try to make the website a little more 所以尽量让网站多一点
useful for people little more up to date 适用于人们更新的更新
I'd understand there's still some some 我知道还有一些
link issues I'm trying to get fixed but 链接问题我试图修复但是
you still have you also have almost the 你仍然有你也有差不多的
whole how to brew book in there right or 整体如何酿造的书在那里的权利或
at least an older version of it right 至少它的旧版本是正确的
yeah it's the first the the online 是的， 这是第一个在线
version of how to brew is you know it's 如何酿造的版本是你知道的
the first version there's a lot more 第一个版本还有更多
information in the current print version 在当前的打印版本信息
and right now I'm currently working on a 而现在我正在努力
revision again so the next time you see 再次修改，以便下次你看到
you're on version what for now Bor yeah 你现在的版本是什么硼是的
so he's working on working on version 4 所以他正致力于第4版的工作
right now alright which is due to be 现在好了，这是应该的
published in early 2017 and that's going 2017年初发布，即将发布
to have even more material you know 拥有更多你知道的材料
talking more about processes such as you 更多地谈论像你这样的过程
know hopping bittering fermentation 知道跳跃苦味发酵
decoction mashing more recipes I mean 汤剂糖化更多食谱我的意思是
sour Bellwood put sour beers in there 酸贝尔伍德把酸啤酒放在那里
ruin a bag you know just trying to 毁掉一个袋子你知道只是想
trying to bring it up to date you know 试图把它和你约会知道
there's a lot going on in the brewing 酿造过程中有很多事情要发生
world these days and trying to make sure 这几天世界并试图确保
I cover it a little bit awesome 我覆盖它有点棒
well I'm looking forward to that new 好，我很期待新
version you said 2017 yeah and in the 你说2017年的版本是啊和在
meantime you can read a lot a lot of 与此同时， 你可以阅读很多
John stuff at how to brew calm mm-hmm a 约翰在如何酿造冷静mm-hmm a
great site with a lot of a lot of great 伟大的网站有很多伟大的
information well John I I just want to 信息很好约翰二世只是想
say Israel anything else you wanted to 以色列说你想要的任何其他东西
add no I guess yeah visit the 添加不，我猜是的，请访问
website there's a companion site called 网站上有一个名为的伴侣网站
Palmer Bruin solutions.com PalmerBruin solutions.com
where there's a link there on the how to 在那里有关于如何的链接
brew know how to brew site and that'll 酿造知道如何酿造现场和那个
take you to the sister website where I 带你到姐姐的网站，我
showcase the different books that I've 展示我所拥有的不同书籍
done with people as well as the current 完成与人和当前
products I'm working with in the 我在工作产品
industry just last week we announced the 业界就在上周我们宣布了
anvil line of products with bleakman 铁砧系列产品与bleakman
engineering just pulled up 工程刚刚拉起来
there's Palmer brewing solutions for 还有帕尔默酿造解决方案
watching on the video and those we just 观看视频和我们刚才的视频
came out with a new line of brewing 推出了酝酿新线
equipment pots burners scales and such 设备锅燃烧器秤等
and very nice products I'm proud to be a 非常好的产品我很自豪能成为一个
part of them so that's uh that's 他们中的一部分就是这样的
bleakman engineering and I was trying to bleakman工程，我试图
pull up their website real quick uh the 拉起他们的网站真正快呃
anvil number if you look go to anvil 如果你看铁砧，那就是铁砧号码
brewing.com and apply this yeah they brewing.com并申请这个他们
yeah I was just I just spent a week week 是的， 我只是花了一周的时间
with John myself with John Glickman 约翰自己和约翰格利克曼在一起
there he is right there 在那里，他就在那里
yeah that's the new website I don't see 是的，那是我看不到的新网站
the anvil on here yet but yeah there 在这里的铁砧但是在那里
yeah just got a new product a lot of 是啊刚得到一个新的产品很多
product line the anvil product line 产品系列铁砧产品系列
which is which I understand you're 这是我理解你的
sporting right yes yeah I hope to help 运动是的是的，我希望能帮到你
design and in you know not fabricate but 设计，你知道不是制造但是
to engineer them a bit so I'm real happy 设计他们一点，所以我真的很开心
doing I think it's uh that's a it's um 我认为这是呃嗯
good line of products gonna help a lot 良好的产品系列会有很大帮助
of people fantastic well John thank you 人们梦幻般的好约翰谢谢
again for being on the show my pleasure 再次表现出我的喜悦
Brad's always fun doing the show with 布拉德总是喜欢这个节目
you always great having my good friend 你总是很有我的好朋友
John Palmer ah thanks again to John 约翰帕尔默啊再次感谢约翰
Palmer he's the author of how to brew 帕尔默他是如何酿造的作者
and how to brew calm you can get copies 如何酿造平静你可以得到副本
of videos that I shot with John also at 我和John一起拍摄的视频
beer Smith comm slash DVD and John 啤酒史密斯通用斜线DVD和约翰
mentioned his other website Palmer 提到他的其他网站帕尔默
brewing solutions John thanks again my 酿造解决方案约翰再次感谢我的
pleasure Brad thank you 快乐布拉德谢谢你
well thanks again to John Palmer for 还有再次感谢约翰·帕尔默为
joining me this week thanks also to 本周加入我，也要感谢
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