你可能已听说过Blur you have probably heard that Blur
这支来自埃塞克斯的摇滚乐队又聚在一起 the rock band from Essex,is getting together again
经过多年的期待 After years of speculation
可以确定的是英摇传奇乐队Blur正在重组 it's been confirmed that Britpop legends Blur are reforming
Damon和Graham终于重归于好 Damon and Graham finally buried the hatchet
距离他们上次一起演出过了多久? How long is it since they last played together?
Blur于七年前解散 Blur fell apart seven years ago
但他们已准备好重夺摇滚界的最高席位 but have been preparing to reclaim their place at the top table of rock
所有原有成员包括吉他手Graham Coxon All the original band including guitarist Graham Coxon
都将在海德公园演出 will play Hyde Park
他们俩之间出了什么问题 音乐上的分歧? What was the problem between the two of them? Musical differences?
-诸如此类? -说来话长 - Something like that? - That's a long story
中午的消息过去了很久 我必须告诉你 Far too long for the midday news l have to tell you
有些事是我一直渴望许久的 真的 我日思夜想 lt was something l'd longed for, really. l'd thought about it every day
我真正需要的一切 All l really needed
就是和其他三位成员在屋子里演奏歌曲 was to get in a room with the other three and play the songs
我并不在乎是不是有人看 l didn't really care if anyone was watching or not
让我的朋友们回来 那才是我要的 Getting my friends back, that's what l needed
更甚于那种来自观众的认同 more than, kind of, approbation of an audience
更甚金钱 更甚一切 more than cash, more than anything
只要我的朋友们回来 Needed my friends back
我非常想念Damon l had missed Damon quite a lot
我开始想念总是把我逗乐的他 But l started to miss the side of him that made me laugh
我真的没想那么多 l really hadn't thought about that an awful lot
因为我觉得Damon一定对我非常生气 because l thought,"Damon's just bloody angry with me."
两天前 我正在听第四电台 Two days before, l was listening to Radio 4
电台那端传来The Police鼓手的声音 and on the radio came the Police's drummer
Stewart Copeland说The Police再次回归 Stewart Copeland, who said that the Police had got back together again
他说 当一个乐队又走到一起 He said "When a band gets back together again, the thing is
这些年来你们都变了 you've all changed in the intervening years,
就好像你们终于完成了拼图 and it's like you've got this jigsaw puzzle
没有比在一块更适合的了 but none of the pieces quite fit any more"
我想 天呐 如果是真的 我们真的麻烦了 And l thought "Shit. lf that's true, we're in real trouble"
所有闲言碎语看上去都落空了 All that rubbish on both sides seemed to have evaporated
就好像 好吧 来吧 让我们... and at that point it was like, "OK. Come on. Let's...
让我们的乐队再次聚首 Let's get the band back together one more time!"
- 我们是今天唯一的新闻 - 你们是我今天唯一的新闻 - We're the only news for today. - you're my only news for today
Bruce会做很多... Bruce? Bruce will be doing lots of... Bruce?
这是Damon 最后一个我们还没拍过的乐队成员 And this is Damon the final member of the band we haven't filmed yet
在你后面 behind you there
嗨 Damon 我是Steph Hi, Damon. l'm Steph
-很高兴见到你 -嗨 你好 - Nice to meet you - Hi Hello
-这是我的摄像师Bruce -嗨 Bruce - And this is Bruce my cameraman - Hi Bruce
我们想你们喜欢一起拍摄 这样会快一些 We thought you'd like to do it all together so then it was quicker.
越快越好 The quicker the better
我是不是显得太狂热了 Have l got to be really wildly enthusiastic
没有 你可以... No you can be...
耶！热辣流行！ yeah! Hot pop!
从你说的那天起 这是美妙的六个月 或者八个月 lt's a good six months,maybe eight now, since you said
我们又在一起表演了 We're gonna play together again
你们在一起排练多久了 How much have you been able to get together and rehearse
这种感觉是不是又回来了 有没有什么不同? and has it just come straight back, has it felt different?
首先这很有趣 因为 The first one was fun because
我一到这儿就想 天哪 我是不是第一个到的?谁在这儿? l got here and l was like, "Oh, gosh,am l the first one arrived? Who's here?"
我朝门里探了探 看见Dave的鼓在那儿 And l poked my head round the door and Dave's drums were there
紧挨着的是我的扩音器 还有Alex的贝斯 and my amp was sitting next to it and then Alex's bass.
就好像开始很惊讶 然后变得懂了 lt was like, "Crikey" Made me go a bit "ooh"
-看到所有乐器觉得很有意思 -就像回到了学校? - lt was funny seeing all the instruments. - Like being back at school?
不 就是很美好 看到所有的乐器又在一起的感觉很美好 No, it was just nice, a nice feeling to see all the instruments together.
你知道 这种感觉很亲切 lt was so familiar, you know.
虽然越来越吵了 lt's got louder and louder though.
-你们排练得很小声 -是的 我不知道为什么 - you were playing really quietly. - l was. l don't know why.
非常安静 Very quietly.
他们总让我大声点 不过之前都是我让他们大声点 They kept telling me to turn it up which used to be the other way round.
我们都来自只有姐妹而没有兄弟的家庭 We all come from families with one sister and no brothers,
我们真的变得亲如兄弟一样 and we kind of became each other's surrogate brothers, really.
我记得那些日子 l remember those days.
噢 是的！ Oh, yeah!
也意味着我们轻易就能惹恼彼此 That means we can all push each other's buttons quite easily.
但是在最初的日子里我们互相依赖 But it means we relied on each other a lot as well, in the early days.
我们变得如此亲近 We became quite close...
又亲近又疏远 quite close and quite distant simultaneously
只有亲兄弟才会这样 in the way that only brothers can,
这是想象的 因为我没有兄弟 l imagine, cos l haven't got any.
当我们在一起表演的时候也是如此 When we're playing, it's just the same.
我耳边回荡的全都是过往岁月里我们一起表演的声音 All l can hear is the echoes of all the times we've played in the past.
就像时光倒回你出生的时候 lt's like going back to where you were born,or something. lt felt like that.
你很久没有踏上的街道 引起了连锁反应 Streets that you haven't walked for ages,triggering...
被遗忘时刻奇异闪回 bizarre flashes of forgotten moments.
我住在埃塞克斯郡一个小镇的外边 l lived in a place outside of a town in Essex.
我几乎不知道伦敦是什么样 l had absolutely no idea what London was like,
除此之外 在我的想象中它就像一个类似纽约一样的地方 apart from, in my imagination it was a place a bit like New york,
即使你在马路走去买些牛奶也会中枪 where you'd get shot if you walked down to get some milk.
你知道 我们这儿的牛奶都是配送的 you know, our milk was delivered,
蓝山雀会站在瓶子上 啄去牛奶上层的乳脂 you know, blue tits sat on the top of it and pecked the cream off the top.
我一点儿也不知道其他地方的事 l didn't know anything about anywhere else.
直到九岁我仍住在伦敦 When l lived in London, until l was nine,
我在雷顿斯通的一所男女合校就读 l went to a very mixed school in Leytonstone.
我们搬到了乡下 We moved to the countryside,
那年夏天我去土耳其待了几个月 and that summer,l went to Turkey for a few months.
然后我回来了 去了远离科尔切斯特的这所小学 And l came back and went to this little primary school outside Colchester,
1980年 那时候 都是白人 completely white, at that point, 1980
那里没有黑人家庭 在整个埃塞克斯完全看不到他们 there were no black families didn't see them in the whole of Essex
这是众多新兴变化之一 比如那种 撒切尔实验 lt was one of those burgeoning kind of Thatcher experiments
他们在修建大量的那种小公寓 They were building lots of,kind of, small estates.
从伦敦到科尔切斯特仅须乘50分钟的火车 With Colchester being a mere 50-minute train ride from London,
远距离上下班的人都住了过去 commuters have moved in.
这些在旧瑞智城址的新式菲尔克拉夫房子 These new Fairclough houses on the old rechl site
是平民的理想想居住地 正好在火车站的门口 are ideal for folk, right on the doorstep of the railway station.
我真的不适应这里的政治 l didn't really fit in with the politics of the place.
我第一次看到他是在学校的晨会上 First time l saw him was in a school assembly.
他正在唱那首西区故事的歌 He was doing the song from West Side Story,
我不知道是不是这么叫的 哎 警官库克或者就是库克警官 l don't know whether it's called Gee, Officer Krupke or just Officer Krupke.
但他就是这伙人里的主唱 But he was the main boy of the gang singing that.
你知道 就是像 我得了一种社会病 you know,"l got a social disease!"
以及其他乱七八糟的东西 and all that stuff.
我不太相信他的痛苦和信心 And l couldn't quite believe the gall of him and the confidence.
我毫不怀疑地想 l definitely immediately thought,
我的天 多么惊艳自信的表演者 My gosh, what an amazingly confident performer
而且 这么出风头 and also, "Gosh, what a show-off"
醒醒 醒醒！ Wakey-wakey!
那时是第二波浪潮的尾声 然后摩登派复兴 lt was the end of the 2 Tone and mod revival thing.
布洛克鞋和白袜开始流行 Brogues and white socks were in,
你可以买到非常贵的皮底的布洛克鞋 and you could either get the very expensive leather-soled brogues,
Damon就有一双 当然 还有一件黑色的双排钮外套 which Damon had, of course,and a black trench coat.
他过来告诉我 我的鞋子并不如他的好 He approached me to tell me that my shoes weren't as good as his.
Graham 显而易见 一直跟我作对 Graham, obviously,still holds that against me.
你的鞋子不如我的好 我的是正宗的 your shoes aren't as good as mine.Mine are the proper kind.
然后在打量他自己 And checked himself out in the
在活动房的窗口 音乐大楼的外边 in the window of the Portakabin outside the music block, and flounced off.
因为我玩萨克斯 我和Damon成了朋友 Me and Damon became friends because l was playing the saxophone.
他在写一首歌 他需要一个萨克斯独奏 He'd written this song and he needed a saxophone solo,
而我是唯一会吹萨克斯的人 我猜 and l was the only boy who could play the sax, l suppose.
在不同的人群中他看起来就是不一样 He just seemed different,made from different stuff.
我在学校真的很不起眼 Graham就不是那样 l was really unpopular at school.Graham didn't have that sort of...
他温和得多 而我似乎惹恼了很多人 He was much more mild, whereas l just seemed to irritate a lot of people.
我们一般会用我们的午休时间 We used to spend our lunch breaks
在音乐教室外面的这个小活动房 in this little Portakabin outside the music building.
我们一起开怀大笑 我们都沉浸在音乐里 We had a great laugh together. We were both really into music.
-见到你很高兴 -谢谢 - Nice to meet you. - Thanks.
我是个记者 当然我为之骄傲 l'm a journalist, of course l have a conceit,
那就是 我觉得有趣的 and that is, what l find interesting is that,
你知道 很明显你们以经典传统作为乐队的开始 you know, obviously you started off as a band in the classic tradition.
现在'你们都又重聚在同一个房间又玩起音乐 Now, you're all back together in the same room playing music again,
但在这段时间 你们做的都是与此完全不相干的事情 but in the intervening time, you've all done completely different things,
然后重聚成一个包含进化后个体的集体 then reconvened as a kind of collective of evolved individuals.
所以远胜于这种共生的单一乐队 So rather than being this kind of symbiotic mono-band,
你们就是四个进化后的个体 you are these four evolved individuals.
现在 你们又重新走到一起 在同一个房间又玩起音乐 Now, you're all back together in the same room playing music again.
- 所以这几乎是一支新的乐队 即使 - 是的 - So it's almost a new band, even though... - yes
这是同样一只乐队 it's the same band.
你说什么?我们已经是... What did you say? We've become...
有点像一个融合更多个体的集合 Kind of like more of a collection of evolved individuals.
是啊 yeah.
一开始总是从一伙儿人开始 就是那样 lt always starts off feeling like a gang band.That's what it is.
我认为你们样的出发点是试图与彼此一致 And l think you all start off sort of trying to agree with each other.
你知道 这是一条统一战线 you know, it's a sort of united front.
但我认为对Blur乐队来说最有趣的是 But l think what's interesting about Blur is that,
时间飞逝 我们都... as the years have gone by, we've all...
我们彼此之间大不相同 become quite different from each other,
四个完全不同的个性 four very different personalities, really.
这是否像我 Terry? Does that look like me, though, Terry?
这是否像我 Does that look like me?
我需要和你们看一下更衣室里的车手 l need to look at the rider with you guys dressing-room rider.
所以我们为客人准备一瓶红酒和一瓶白酒? So do we want a bottle of red and a bottle of white for guests?
-家庭 朋友? -以及汽水 - Family, friends? - And a bottle of pop.
- 一瓶菲兹? - 施勒尔 我喜欢这个 - Bottle of fizz? - Shloer. l like that.
- 苹果味的施勒尔还是葡萄味的施勒尔? - 可口可乐? - Apple Shloer or grape Shloer? - Coca-Cola?
- 我这里还有一些红牛饮料 - 红葡萄味的施勒尔 - l've got some Red Bull, here. - Shloer, red grape one.
我喝了红牛饮料 各种各样的苏打水 还有一些可乐 l've got Red Bull, l've got assorted sodas,and a case of Cokes.
可乐 柠檬汁 姜汁啤酒 Coke, lemonade, ginger beer.
你要么? All right for you?
来一些吉百利巧克力棒? Get a couple of Crunchies?
自从我第一次见到他开始我就想与Graham组一个乐队 l sort of wanted to be in a band with Graham from the moment l first saw him, actually.
他是我到达伦敦后看到的第一个人 And he was the very first person l saw when l got to London.
他是从他父母的车上下来 还拿着把吉他 He was getting out of his parents' car holding a guitar,
那一刹那我知道 他将成为我生命中重要的部分 and l knew, that instant, that he was going to play a major part in my life.
我去了金史密斯学院 因为我觉得我不得不去伦敦 真的 l went to Goldsmiths because l thought l had to get to London, really,
如果我要与Damon再做更多音乐上的事情 if l was gonna do anything musically any more with Damon.
我的导师们对此有点儿悲观 My tutors were kind of pessimistic about getting in.
他们说 "你看 这是一个途径 但是..." They said, "Look, by all means have a go, but...
如果你不去那里 就去斯肯索普" "if you don't get in there,it's Scunthorpe for you."
我不知道什么是斯肯索普 l didn't know what Scunthorpe was.
这是全国最好的艺术学校 lt was the best art school in the country.
达明安 赫斯特在那里 还有山姆 泰勒 伍德 Damien Hirst was there,and Sam Taylor-Wood.
也许我是一个对人们严肃谈话没准备的人 l was kind of maybe not ready for how seriously people were taking themselves.
某些图像在渲染 The rendering of certain images
让整个绘画里的形式主义的空间更大 allows that greater formalistic space to occur throughout the whole painting.
我只是觉得 "哦 不 这些东西里有很多垃圾" And l just thought,"Oh, no, these lot are rubbish."
当我离开斯坦韦 我去了戏剧学校 l went to drama school when l left Stanway,
我不适合在那里 真的 and l didn't fit in there, really, either.
我们曾相互做出承诺 We did make a promise to each other that we'd include each other
如果当时来点儿音乐 if anything was happening musically.
这是我们彼此说过的 所以我想... That's something we said to each other,so l suppose...
即使我在打手鼓 我还有工作 Even if it was just me playing the tambourine, l had the job.
Graham经常提起他 Graham talked about him a lot, you know.
Damon总能成为那些让人们谈论的人 He's always been somebody that people talk about, Damon.
我只是假设他们真的很相像 l just assumed they'd be really similar.
你很难遇到两个更不同的人 you couldn't meet two more different people.
我认为Dave在那过着他双重的生活 l think Dave was there Cos Dave was leading this double life...
为柯彻斯特康瑟尔计算机编程工作 working for Colchester Council programming computers...
玩弄莫西干人 sporting a mohican.
就像莫霍克人 lt was more of a mohawk.
这是科尔切斯特的区别 lt was a very Colchestrian difference,
莫西干人很瘦弱 莫霍克人很粗壮 the mohican was thin the mohawk was thick.
乐队里的人有很多化身 There were various incarnations of people in bands,
在我们四个人站成一排前 before we settled on the line-up of the four of us.
事实上当我第一次和Damon合作时 ln fact, the first time l played with Damon,
Graham甚至不在乐队里 Graham wasn't even in the band.
吉他手退出后Graham才加入我们 The guitarist dropped out and Graham came in
一切马上变得很好 and it was infinitely better, straightaway.
Graham把我介绍给Alex Graham introduced me to Alex,
那时我们已经完成了一个录音 and l think we'd done a demo
我演奏后他评价说这是一团糟 and l played it and he said it was shit.
这是个很戏剧性的社团 需要更多艺术 lt was too drama college,and it needed to be more art college.
这样的评论 从熟悉Alex之后 就知道是很典型的 That comment, knowing Alex now,was typical, really.
两周后后来我认为Dave洗劫了吉他手和贝斯手 Then l think Dave sacked the guitarist and bass player two weeks later,
Graham说:"你希望我们加入吗?" and Graham said, "Wanna have a go?"
后来我们就变成了现在这样的一个组合 So we became the group then,l suppose, that we are now.
我认为我们想要重新开始 l think we wanted to revisit, with going back,
在火车车厢 you know, the train shed.
我和Damon经常去那个高架桥 and that viaduct that Damon and l used to muck around on, you know.
我认为我们想记录那段情感经历 And l think we wanted to almost emotionally précis our journey,
做我们喜欢的事情 do a few things that would just feel good.
就像能名垂青史 用某种方式来记住我们 and sort of, historic,remind ourselves of our roots in some way.
90年代的流行组合Blur乐队在今晚演出 90s pop group Blur are performing tonight
在科尔切斯特的英国东盎格鲁铁路博物馆 at the East Anglian Railway Museum near Colchester.
事实上他们正在巡演 They're kicking off quite a tour,in actual fact.
今晚 为我们邀请的一个特别的观众 Tonight, it'll be for an exclusive audience of invited guests.
加入我们的英国东盎格鲁铁路博物馆 Joining us from the East Anglian Railway Museum
是伊恩·里德理事 is trustee lan Reed.
- 伊恩 早上好 - 早 - lan, good morning. - Good morning.
你习惯了你的蒸汽火车 当然 有一点喧闹 you're used to your steam trains,of course, making a bit of a racket.
但你们这儿有现场音乐吗? but do you have a lot of live music there?
20年前当我们第一次在货仓复合 20 years ago, when we'd first restoredthe goods shed,
我们有一个经常见面的音乐俱乐部 we had a music club who met regularly,
其中一个正在表演的乐队 and one of the bands that were playing then
一个不知名的乐队叫做Blur was an unknown group called Blur.
这是他们第一次公开的演唱会 lt was their first public gig, was here,
实际上是在那个博物馆 20年前了 actually at the museum, 20 years ago.
在英国东盎格鲁铁路博物馆 今晚举行Blur的回归演唱会 From the East Anglian Railway Museum, hosting Blur's comeback gig tonight.
多好的一个本地故事 是吗? What a great local story, hey?
我认为我们喜欢这些富于感情的东西 l think we just liked the resonant emotional stuff.
我们喜欢有象征意义的回归 We appreciate the symbolism,l suppose, of going back
故地重游 and revisiting those places.
他说停下他们 他找不到驾驶舱 He says stall them, cos he can't find a cab.
- 我们不能停 - 我认为他在开玩笑 - We can't stall. - l think he's joking.
我们是火力充足的机器 We're this well-oiled machine.
- 那么多的歌词是如何记忆的? - 我现在记住他们了 - How's it been remembering all the lyrics? - l've got them now. l think.
Damon 你能把手臂放在Graham的肩上吗? Damon, can you just put your arm over the top of Graham's shoulder?
就这样这样很棒很棒 That's it. That's nice. Nice, nice, nice, nice.
Alex 别躲开 出来一些 Alex, don't get lost. Come out a little bit.
- 就这样 - Alex'出来 - That's it. - Alex, come out.
就这样 That's it.
一起做一个乐队 这很有意思 lt's great fun, you know,being in a band. Great.
- 很好我的工作完成了 - 棒极了 - Brilliant. As far as l'm concerned, job done. - Great.
- 不 等下等下 - 我们能再做些什么? - No, no. Hold on, hold on. - Are we doing more?
她告诉我只拍一次 She told me it was one shot!
我们的演出很吸引人 Our shows were pretty crackers.
我们疯狂的歌迷们会一直跟随我们 We had a mad little audience that would faithfully follow us around.
我们演唱会的结束都只因为机器报废 Most of our gigs ended up with the equipment going over,
Damon受不了我的扩音器 或者别的理由 Damon being sick behind my amplifier or whatever.
他需要靠住Alex的肩膀 He would start to get Alex onto his shoulders.
他们受不了我 每样东西都不插电 They would sort of fall on me and everything would become unplugged.
所以那时虽然我们可能要唱十首歌 So although we had something like ten songs by that point,
在结束前我们只唱的了四首 we'd normally only get through four before it was all over.
谢谢 Thank you very much.
我觉得和Damon在一个乐队十分幸运 l'm lucky that l was in a group with Damon.
他很好的地方是对团队充满着雄心壮志 He was ambitious for the group,which is good, you know.
他就像小猎犬 紧盯着我们在各处的账单 He was the terrier, forcing us onto the bill all over the place.
我租了一个排练厅 有段时间没有人露面 l'd booked a studio, a rehearsal studio,for a certain time, and no one turned up.
Dave出现了 他从科尔切斯特开车来 Dave turned up, bless him.He'd driven from Colchester.
但他们俩没有一个人来 But they hadn't turned up at all.
我很气愤然后去坐了地铁 And l was so fucked off that l got on the Tube
我一直走到他们的住处 and l went all the way down to New Cross to their halls of residence.
他们正在派对狂欢中 And they were in the midst of a big party.
我打开门 事实上是踢开门 l literally opened the door,so l just sort of kicked the door in,
我就站在那儿 气得冒烟 and l was just standing there, fuming.
他正在钢琴上演奏蓝月亮 And he was playing Blue Moon on the piano,
我很不愉快 and l was not amused, you know.
我在羊角面包店工作 而且我没有很多现金 l was working in the croissant shop,and l didn't have any cash,
但我为排练音乐厅付费 and l'd paid for the rehearsal studio,and it was like...
我没什么其他的想法 l had nothing else...
我唯一想做的就是让乐队能运作 This was all l wanted to do,was make this band work.
在音乐新闻里报道的都是小镇夜晚秘密的演唱会 ln music news, it's all about secret gigs in town tonight.
在九年后周六的科尔切斯特的第一次演出中 After their first gig in nine years in Colchester on Saturday,
今晚Blur将在伦敦带来只有170个人的私密演唱会 Blur are gonna play another intimate gig in London tonight for just 170 people.
我在店内做了很多 l've done a few in-stores in my time.
我只希望能保证人们知道是这里 l just hope they've made sure people know it's here.
你有多余的吗? Have you got any spares?
Si在外面 但他没有入场卷 Cos Si is outside and he ain't got a ticket or nothing.
- 你喜欢这个? - 是的！ - you enjoying it? - yeah!
- 太棒了 - 是的 - lt's wonderful. - lt is.
- 这很不可思议不是吗? - 是的 - lt's a marvellous thing, isn't it? - yeah.
我意识到我的老年痴呆症并不糟 我能唱每个音符 l've realised my Alzheimer's isn't as bad.l can sing every note.
比我好多了 Better than me.
- 再见 - 再见 欢呼 - l'll see you. - See you. Cheers.
- 明天见 - 你有纸牌吗? - See you tomorrow. - Have you got a deck with you?
我们很快弄好了我们的录音 有好有坏 We got our record deal pretty quickly,which was good and bad, you know.
很有特色 很大胆 lt's distinctive. lt's brave.
谁能全部做到? l mean, anybody who can do all that,
我很赞赏 因为你相信你做的事情 l've got a lot of respect for, cos you believe in what you're actually doing.
我们那时才20 21岁 We were about 20, 21 , you know.
一半确定一半未知的自己 Part of you's certain and part of you's completely unsure.
你好 我们是Blur乐队 Hello, we're Blur,
我是Damon 我是主唱 and l'm Damon and l'm the singer.
我是Graham 我是吉他手 l'm Graham and l play the guitar.
我有一把大大大大贝斯吉他 我叫Alex l've got a big, big, big, big bass guitar and l'm called Alex.
我是Dave 我是鼓手 l'm called Dave and l play the drums.
你20岁的时候知道些什么 我甚至不知道录音是什么意思 What do you know when you're 20?l didn't know what a record deal meant.
"哇 录音合同" 我从来没有见过 "Wow a record contract." l'd never seen one.
我希望我们能仔细的听这些会议 因为现在我们还在合约期内 l wish we'd listened in those meetings,cos we're still in that contract now.
我想说我们是常规的英国事物 l think it'd be true to say that we're a stereotypical English thing.
但我们就是这样 我认为这是我们希望的样子 But that's what we are,and l think that's what we want to be.
我们的第一次录音 Our first record...
被录音公司紧紧得控制住 was very tightly controlled by the record company.
福德唱片尝试做一个录音 Food Records were just trying to make a record
正好说准了后来发生的事 that fitted in with what was happening then.
第一张专辑的选歌 Choice of songs for the first album...
一些我们使用的画像 some of the kind of imagery we used,you know.
谢天谢地那时候 即使不对也依然可以做录音 Thank God that was a time when you could still make a record that wasn't right
不像是忽略下一分钟 and not be kind of just sort of discarded the next minute.
他们生活在边缘 像外星球来的人 或者是科尔切斯特人? They live on the edge, they come from outer space, or is it Colchester?
有四个字母 这个词是Blur They are a four-letter word.That word is Blur.
There's No Other Way 得到了第八名 There's No Other Way got to number eight.
我们欣喜若狂 We were pretty overjoyed.
像往常唱歌一样有种攀上绳索的感觉 lt sort of crawled up the charts like songs used to in those days.
我们的经纪人把我们带到一边 说 Our tour manager took us to one side and said,
抓紧一切时间睡觉 you'd better grab sleep while you can
因为一切都即将发疯 because everything's gonna go mental
在那时我们接到电台宣传员的电话说 Up until that point, we'd get a call from the radio plugger saying,
你们的录音将在周四的7点45分在Mark Goodier的节目上播出 your record's gonna be on Mark Goodier on Thursday at quarter to eight
我们都去其中一人的家然后听着 and we'd all go round to one of our houses and listen round.
突然放到了There's No Other Way But suddenly, with There's No Other Way,
然后就变了 突然消失了 that changed, and it just went into the ether.
- 他们是谁? - 他们看起来… - What are they? - They're looking very sort of...
是加利福尼亚人? ..Californian?
我是有很多情绪的人 l'm a man of many moods.
在那天早上体会了英式忧郁后 Been reading all about English melancholy this morning.
- 噢耶 - 这是在采访Blur吗? - Oh, yeah. - Was it a Blur review?
- 耶 - 你想知道些什么? - yeah! - What do you want to know about it?
我们是一起有数百年的历史了 We've all...we've had it since hundreds and hundreds of years.
- 我们当然有 - 这是我们的天性 - Course we have. - lt's in our natures.
- 这是个传统 - 对的 - lt's a grand tradition. - yeah.
那就是我们所做的 lt's... That's what we do.
- 我们组合在一起刚刚好 - 绝对是的 - We mix in just the right amount of wit. - yeah. Exactly.
这首歌是关于住在岛上的人们 你并不是 This song is about people who live on islands. And you don't.
显而易见 我真的想看看美国 Obviously, l want to see America, really.
现在我们很大一部分的文化都来自于美国 So much of our culture is sort of American culture now,
我认为建一个文化联系十分重要 and it would be...l think it's important to make a connection.
我们第一个经纪人不是贪污钱就是搞错钱 Our first manager either stole or bungled the money.
我认为在这个现代化的世界 l was convinced that, in this modern world,
所有的音乐产业片子都将公布于众 all the music-business sharks must be well-known by now,
确保没有人再上当 and surely there was nobody still ripping people off,
因为那很可笑 cos that would be ridiculous.
无论如何 我们签的这位经纪人欺骗了我们 So anyway, we signed to this manager who promptly ripped us off.
所以我们换了新的经纪人来获得一些钱 So we got a new manager,and in order to raise some cash,
一些T恤公司给了我们足够的钱来还债 some T-shirt company had given us enough money to pay out debts back,
但是我们的情况是必须继续这场大巡演 but the condition was we had to go on this huge tour.
一个个小俱乐部满是从未听说过我们的人 From little club to little club,full of people who'd never heard of us.
我们只是一直不停地喝酒 喝酒 喝酒 We just started drinking,and drinking and drinking and drinking.
任何能脱离关系或者无聊的工作都好 Anything to escape the realities and the drudgery of it were welcomed.
一天晚上我们起床 One day we woke up and, in the night,
Graham砸碎了车上所有的玻璃 Graham had smashed every piece of glass on the bus.
所有的盘子 杯子 门和镜子 他砸碎了所有的镜子 All the plates, all the glasses, the doors had mirrors on, he'd smashed all the mirrors.
这太糟糕了 lt was just grim.
对我来说也是艰难的时刻 lt was very...it was kind of difficult,for me, as well.
我很想家 l was very homesick.
我们对于这场没有意义的巡演越来越失望 We were getting more and more depressed doing this pointless tour,
我们在英国的事业差到极点 and seeing our career in the UK going down the toilet, really.
所以我们开始了打架 So that was when we started fighting.
我打肿了Alex的眼睛 l remember giving Alex a black eye.
后来我们每个人都眼眶发青 There was one point where we all had a black eye from each other.
巡演的八周时间 我都以啤酒当早饭 Eight weeks into a tour where l was drinking beer for breaakfast, it just...
最后总是被酒精麻痹 you know, alcohol just eventually, it's just...
有的时候动手 Sometimes it's easier to thump someone than...
比告诉他们闭嘴有用 tell them to shut up.
当我们回到美国 音乐事业彻底改变了 While we were in the States, the music industry focus had shifted completely,
我们不再相关联 没人再有兴趣 we were no longer relevant,and nobody was interested.
涅槃和那整个有点令人恶心的浪潮 Nirvana and that whole kind of disgusting movement
它从美国而来 that came over from America.
我的意思是 涅槃不令人恶心 l mean, Nirvana were not disgusting,
但是他们复兴的就是一堆狗屁 but in their wake was just the most awful shit.
我想它对Damon的作用是 l think the effect it had on Damon...
让他有些反抗英国 made him sort of defiantly British.
我不知道 它只是让我们思考我们是谁 l don't know, it just made us think about who we were.
英国流行文化在与美国流行文化的交流中被推到了一边 British popular culture was being pushed aside in exchange for American.
令人不愉快的美国巡演以及美国化的英国流行音乐 The unpleasant American tour, plus the Americanisation of British pop music,
给我们点方便的东西来反抗 因为我们总是需要它 gave us something convenient to kick against, cos we always needed that.
英伦摇滚百分之百是Damon Albarn的主意 Britpop was 100% Damon Albarn's idea.
我们录制了Modern Life ls Rubbish We were recording Modern Life ls Rubbish,
我记得唱片公司很失望 and l remember the record company coming down
在Star Shaped这首歌中间的一段贝斯中 in the middle of a bass take,actually, for Star Shaped,
只是在说 你疯了 你绝对是疯了 英伦摇滚 你疯了 just saying, you're mad. you're absolutely mad. British pop... you're mad.
你怎么能预见未来呢?你怎么可能知道呢? How can you predict the future?How could you know?''
Damon说 你要相信我 Damon said, "you've gotta trust me."
他说 这张专辑我相信你 要给我证明 He said, "l'll trust you for one album.Prove it to me, then."
上帝 我想我们应该考虑考虑 Gosh. l suppose we should think about getting...
是的 我们能开始吗 能向前发展了吗 yeah, shall we go? Shall we get on?
是的 所有人 我们开始 Right, everyone, we're starting.
为了二专 我们做了很多巡演 We did a lot of touring on Modern Life ls Rubbish.
我们用了很多真是很奇怪的东西表演 We played aroundwith some really strange sets.
所以我们是在用自己的方式做事 So we were really doing stuff our own way.
但是没有一个音乐编辑认为我们的新专辑值得一听 Not one music editor thought it was worth
甚至是看一看的价值都没有 even having a look at our new record.
确实有点麻烦 That was sort of...up shit creek.
但是我们有浆 我们不停地划 But we did have a paddle,and we kept on paddling.
慢慢的 我们有点感觉到 一场新的运动开始了 Slowly, we kind of felt there was a real movement starting.
你知道 在我们在意大利演出的时候 孩子们骑着摩托车出现 you know, we played in ltaly and kids'd turn up on mopeds,
这些摩登族到了 他们就像一对对怪异的骑兵 the mods arrived,they were like a strange cavalry.
这是非常经典的事情 它越来越壮大和激烈 lt was the classic thing,it just got bigger and more intense.
对我们来说 那是我们转变成新一代Blur的新生 That was really the birth of us turning into the kind of modern Blur.
我记得在雷丁音乐节的演出 l remember playing Reading,headlining the tent there.
那以后它就变得非常狂热 lt had got to fever pitch by that point.
突然 它停止了 演出停止了 Suddenly, it clicked.The performance clicked.
我记得 结束后 我坐在宾馆的椅子上 l remember, in the hotel aftereards,sitting in this chair,
NME的编辑 Melody Marker的编辑等等都在那 and there was the editor of the NME and the editor of Melody Maker and...
他们都坐着 and they were all sitting down.
我坐在这个椅子上 我说 l was sitting on this chair, and l was going,
是个好日子 "That was a good day's work."
这有点奇怪 因为它不是完全的布里斯顿式的 你知道 它是 lt's going to be slightly strange, because it's not a full Brixton, it's, you know...
是的 你不知道怎么说 你知道我是什么意思吗? yeah, l don't know how to pitch it.you know what l mean?
并不是有很多人 Not an awful lot of people...
不知道我是不是排练或者表演 Don't know if l'm rehearsing or performing.
- 我认为没有 - 这有什么区别吗? - l don't think there is... - ls there a distinction?
下午好 Good afternoon.
欢迎来到... Welcome to this...
朋友们和亲人们的... friends and family...
演唱会 concert.
真正让我不满的是Will Self在前排 Thing that really put me off was having Will Self at the front,
就那样看着我 just looking at me like that.
- 是的他是这样的 -噢 不 - yeah, he was like that. - Oh, no!
- 不！ - 从头开始 - No! - From the beginning.
我知道Will Self是我注意到的第一个人 l know, and that's the first person l noticed,was Will Self,
因为他比任何人都高 cos he's taller than everyone.
他用那种表情 But he had that expression that...
- 我想 噢 不 - 不 - And l was thinking, "Oh, no." - No.
我要把我的句子组合好 l have to really string my sentences together.
尝试使用大词汇 Try and use big words.
我知道的最长的词 The longest words l've got.
你可以做到 you can do this.
但是我想得越多 越迷惑 And the more l thought about it,the more confused l got,
舌头打结 然后... and tongue-tied, and...
对那些我们最后演出时还没有出生的人 For those out there who were not born when we last played,
更不必说在我们开始时候 let alone when we started,
我们演奏了 十年全部的歌曲 是吗? we're playing songs from all...ten years, were we?
1989年 1989...
12…11或12年 我们良好的运转着 12...1 1 or 12 years that we were sort of functioning properly.
或着 你懂得 Or...you know.
早上好 巡演车 Good morning. Tour bus.
- 是的 - 巡演车 巡演 - yeah. - Tour bus. On tour.
巡演车！噢 该死 Tour bus! Oh, fuck.
谢谢你 Thank you.
我从来没有真正觉得我达到了某种高度 lt never ever feels like you've really arrived.
人们总是想知道有一首热门歌曲或者冠军单曲是什么感觉 People always wanna know what it feels like to have had a hit or had a number one.
其实完全没有任何感觉 There's never any sort of sense of arrival.
它只不过是不变的向前的动力 lt's just constant sort of foreard momentum.
《Parklife》做出来之前 大潮即将到来 Before Parklife came out, the sort of...the tide was starting to turn.
有一种预感 会有什么事情发生 There was a sense that there was something happening,
我们发展起来 that we were developing.
歌词涌现出来 我们有了不错的歌曲 Word got out that we had some good songs.
它轻易就做到了 lt had gone up a notch.
从伦敦97.3电台传出的声音 The voice of London on 97.3 FM...
现在的孩子没法理想解那是什么样子 Kids today wouldn't even understand what it was like,
但是那会 还没有这一说 but at that point, there was no such thing
就像一支局外的独立乐队 变得商业化了 as a left-field indie band that were that commercial.
我想每个人都接受了 它本不应该成为那样 And l think everyone had accepted that it was never going to be like that.
我赢得某些东西非常重要 lt's very important that l win something.
你好 我能花五美元买个一号吗 Hello. Can l have a fiver on number one?
一号 Number one!
就像Damon预期的那样 主流音乐确实变了 Just as Damon had predicted,the mainstream of music did change.
一切关于独立的东西都消失了 独立成了新流行音乐 Everything about indie disappeared and indie became the new pop music.
英国音乐突然间再次被人欣赏真是一大欣慰 lt was quite a relief that British music was suddenly being appreciated again.
噢 棒极了 Oh, fantastic!
蔑视其他任何乐队 没什么能够接近的 Piss all over every other band. Nothing anywhere near 'em.
- 你又来了 - 在我的饮料和一切东西里吐口水 - There you go. - Spat in my drink and everything.
音乐再一次重要起来 而且很积极 Music now was quite important again,and that was positive.
不仅仅是我们自信的做出了一张伟大的唱片 lt wasn't just us that did it, l think it was the coincidence of us making a great record
Oasis也做了一好的唱片 and Oasis making a great record.
但是他们把光环放到了自己的唱片上 But they put this sheen on it,
舞动旗帜 称它为英伦摇滚 and waved flags, and called it Britpop.
如果有两支乐队这样做 就会有一种景象 lf there's two bands doing it,there's a scene,
我们可以围绕它创作 and we can write about it.
英伦摇滚 Britpop.
我不喜欢被称作英伦摇滚 l didn't like being called Britpop.
或者流行 或者英式 或者流行英式 Or pop, or Brit. Or PopBrit.
或者其他你想要给它的名字 Or however way you wanna put it.
英国冠军单曲的获胜者 由第一电台听众投票选出的 The winner of Best British Single as voted by the One FM listeners
他们选择了Blur的Parklife goes to Blur, Parklife!
全英音乐奖的颁奖礼上一切都在上演着 lt all happened on that one night of the Brit Awards.
Blur, Parklife! Blur, Parklife!
Blur！噢 是的 Blur! Oh, yes!
之后人们知道我们是谁了 People knew who we were, then.
Damon非常有政治家的风度 Damon was quite statesmanlike,
他说我们应该跟Oasis一起分享奖杯 he said we should have shared an award with Oasis.
我想这应该跟Oasis一起分享 l think this should have been shared with Oasis.
额滴神啊 Oh, God.
我这么做是为什么啊 What did l do that for?
每次我从肯特回来的时 总是会路过金斯密斯学院 l mean, l go past Goldsmiths every time l come back from Kent.
我总是会去看一眼学生会 l always look at the student union and wince a little bit.
不过 它仍是一个很棒的学生会 lt's a great student union, though.
我曾经在周四晚上去那里跳迪斯科 独立迪斯科 That's where l used to go and have a disco on a Tuesday night. lndie disco.
我记得这个地方有点像个洞穴 l remember this place being kind of cavernous.
我记得每当音乐响起的时候 总会有一群兴奋的孩子跑来跑去 l remember, like, running around like an excited kid when there was music on.
我记得是很多比我小的孩子 Just...it's a lot smaller than l remember.
非常感谢 Thank you very much.
- 啵一个 - 神马? - Give us a kiss. - What?
我也爱你 Damon 你懂得 l like you too, Damon, you know?
你喜欢U2 我们都喜欢U2 不是吗 you like U2. We all like U2, don't we?
我们年轻的时候都喜欢U2 We were very fond of U2 when we were younger.
- 什么 - 我们都喜欢U2 - What? - We were very fond of U2,
- 当我们年轻的时候 - 发生了什么? - when we were younger. - Then what happened?
不是Simple Minds Not Simple Minds.
你什么意思 你不喜欢苏格兰? What d'you mean,you don't like Scotch?
爱尔兰威士忌 lrish whiskey.
- 你得到了吗 - 是的 - Did you get that? - yeah.
非常特别 不是吗 Pretty special, weren't it?
它碰巧成为最棒的酒 And it just happens to be the best fucking wine...
- 草泥马 -世界上最棒的酒 - Bite your fucking nuts off. - Best fucking wine in the world.
好家伙 Good boy.
是的 非常好 我就像个十足的傻瓜 yeah, it was nice, that.l played like a complete prat.
是的 但是还是蛮带感的 yeah, but it had spirit.
- 是挺带感的 - 恩 - lt had spirit. - lt had spirit.
- 我已经尽力了 - 其实我说的是酒气熏天 - l put in my all. - Spirits from the minibar, l think.
不！绝不是！ No! Not at all!
绝不是 Not at all.
- 什么? - 骗子 骗子 - What? - Liar. Liar.
我们没有在嘲笑你 我们在跟你一起笑 We're not laughing at you,we're laughing with you.
这就是悬崖 悬崖 这是Graham This is the brink. The brink.And this is Graham.
在一个乐队里就 像登上了一架复古的横渡大西洋的航班 Being in a band was like getting on an old-fashioned transatlantic flight.
你知道真正的唱片合约 基本都是在酒吧里签署的 you know, record deal was basically signed in a pub,
所有的会议都是在酒吧里开始的 all the meetings were conducted in a pub.
所有一切都是在酒吧和俱乐部里发生的 The whole thing happened in pubs and clubs and bars.
我过去常开一瓶葡萄酒一边演出 在那之前我会痛饮几口 l used to always play with a bottle of wine.l'd have a few swigs beforehand,
演出中我会痛饮一遭 then during the show l'd have a swig.
演出结束前 还会剩点 By the end of the show,l'd have about that much left.
不管观众是不是喜欢 我不是特别在意 Whether the audience liked it or not,l didn't particularly care.
我处在一个不错的有点模糊的世界里 l was already in a nice little fuzzy world.
所以那就是我过去惯有的保护自己感受的方式 So that was sort of how l used to protect my feelings.
简单的说 这时候 Just say, at this point,
我真的非常谢谢你们 a really huge thank you
Stu Smog and Alex to Stu, Smog and Alex,
来自伍尔弗汉普顿的我们的好朋友们 who have been our friends from Wolverhampton
自从我们首次在那里演出之后 since the first time we played here
尤其是Stu和Smog and especially Stu and Smog,
他们差不多 who have kind of...
多年来 一直鼓励着我们 over the years, really encouraged for us
重新聚在一起演出 to get back together and play these gigs,
我只想说谢谢你们 so l just want to say thank you!
对我来说 Blur是一支独立乐队 For me, Blur is an indie band, really.
你知道 你坐上了过山车或者什么别的 you know, and you get on the rollercoaster or whatever,
你不知道它会开向哪里 或者你将会对它有什么感觉 you have no clue where it's gonna go,or how you're gonna feel about it,
但是你坐在上面 不是很多人都能这么做的 but you're on it, and there'snot an awful lot you can do about it.
本来也许你没想着成名 y ou may not start out wanting to be famous...
但是这非常令人上瘾 那是某种成功 But it is quite addictive, that sort of success.
那时候我们不清楚 We had no idea at the time...
成名意味着什么 或者人们对音乐是什么想法 how famous we were,or what people thought of the music,
或者对我们 我们不知道 真的 or thought of us, we had no idea, really,
从外部看来是什么样子 what it looked like from the outside.
Blur是世界上最大牌的乐队吗? Are Blur the biggest band in the world?
不是 是英国最大牌的乐队 但不是世界最大牌的乐队 No. Biggest band in Britain.But not the biggest band in the world.
有很多繁重的工作要做 Got a lot more hard work to do.
所以有一张非常轰动的热门专辑 So having had one big smash hit record,
会使我们成为一个家喻户晓的名字 that had made us household names,
下一张专辑必须很棒 the next record had to be great.
- 新专辑叫什么名字? - The Great Escape - What's the new album? What's it called? - The Great Escape.
- The Great Escape? -从哪里逃亡? - The Great Escape? -The great escape from what?
从... From...
从意识思想的暴政逃离 Escape from the tyranny of conscious thought.
Parklife让我们获得了很多奖项 We were getting a lot of awards for Parklife,
之后我们又回到了录音室 and then going back to the studio.
我们从没有停止过录音 我们只是继续 We didn't, we never stopped recording.We just carried on.
我们非常疯狂并且经常宿醉 We were quite doolally and hungover quite a lot.
有时候 我有些功能失调 And at times, l was kind of quite unable to function.
这感觉很怪 lt felt weird.
我们有了一个新的不同种类的目标 这感觉很怪 lt felt odd that we were getting a new and different kind of attention.
他们开始作为一个合理的独立乐队 They started off as a reasonable indie band.
他们成了一支巨大的青少年喜欢的乐队 They've become a huge teenybop band.
他们做的与披头士相反 The reverse to what the Beatles did.
有歌迷很棒 但是我有点不满他们 lt's great to have fans, but l was getting a bit disgruntled that they were...
他们太年轻了 我想 that they were so...so young, l suppose.
一个青少年听众 A teenybop audience.
我无法看到每场演出的前两排之外 l couldn't see beyond the first two rows of any shows,
看那是不是有叼着奶嘴的孩子 and see that there was chin-rubbers there,as well,
人们可以在很多不同的层面欣赏我们的音乐 and people that would appreciate our music on many different levels,
而不仅仅是整个演出中都尖叫着摇晃着脑袋 and not just screaming their head off all the way through the gig.
我发现那时候我有点荒谬 l find the me then a little bit ridiculous,
和一惊一乍 如果我跟他们在一个团体里的话 and crikey, if l'd have been in a group with me then
可能我自己一个人的时候会比较好 l would have had a right good go at myself.
说 相当享受 Said, "Just bloody enjoy it."
那是非常奇怪的一年 lt was a very odd year.
感觉我们的世界有点躁狂 lt felt like our world had gone a bit berserk.
所有的标准都改变了 All the rules had changed
并且我们再也没有制造标准 and we were no longer making the rules.
那是一种非常令人紧张的感觉 And that's quite an unnerving feeling.
我们不准备消磨我们的岁月 We're not gonna spend ages and ages...
- 不 - 要做很多很多这样的事 - No. Not ages. - ..doing lots and lots of these.
- 不 你不会的 - 因为它会毁灭灵魂 - No, you're not. - Cos it's soul-destroying.
你好 我叫Alex Blur里面最傻的一个 Hello, l'm Alex, the stupid one from Blur,
你在看更多音乐 and you're watching Más Música.
小小周六 Little Saturday?
你好 我叫Alex Blur里大个儿的一个 Hello, l'm Alex, the big one from Blur,
你在看小小周六 and you're watching Little Saturday!
你这贱人 别吃鲸鱼了 Stop eating whales, you cunts.
你好 我是Alex Blur里善良的那个 Hello, l'm Alex, the nice one from Blur,
你在ATV频道看 周日音乐 快报 and you're watching Sunday Music Express on ATV.
你好 我是Alex 来自Blur Hello, l'm Alex, from Blur,
你在商业台听Alvin Wong的节目 and you're listening to Alvin Wong on Commercial Radio.
我想我们意识到那一点花了不少时间 l think it took us all a while to realise
流行明星的身份其实什么也不是 that pop stardom wasn't the thing we were after.
也许那就是我所追逐的 Maybe it was what l was after.
我非常喜欢 l quite liked it.
- 倒多点? - 我没有拥有多少 - Drop more in there? - l don't have too much.
- 倒多点啊? - 碰杯 碰杯 - Drop more in there? - Just clink, clink.
干杯 Chin-chin.
我在伦敦西区住在一个小的公寓里 l lived in a small flat in the West End,
我从不想回家 and l never wanted to go home,
那是一场没有终止点的派对 and it was a never-ending party.
事实上 我认为成为名人后Damon承受的最多 Actually, l think Damon suffered most from being famous,
因为他是最有名的 cos he was the most famous.
人们成群的围在他的住所外 Crowds of people outside his house,
狗仔们在路上尾随着带着一袋子胡萝卜和面包的他 paparazzi chasing him down the road with his bag of carrots and loaf of bread.
他和Justine是英伦摇滚的国王和王后 He and Justine were the king and queen of Britpop.
我想这一段被很好的记录下来 l think it's been well documented
那时候我正经历地狱般的生活 that l was going through hell at that time.
我的惊恐发作 l had panic attacks.
你知道 参加那样的时髦派对很不错 you know, it's nice going to groovy parties like that,
但是人们太恼人了 but the people are so annoying.
我不明白 l don't see what...
我知道那里有很多女孩子 穿的像蜘蛛一样走来 l know there are a load of girls walking around that sort of look like spiders,
然后说着废话 and talking crap.
我不明白为什么那是这么好的一件事 l don't see why that's such a nice thing.
我想Graham所纠结的不过是胡扯 l think what Graham struggled with was just the sort of bullshit of it all.
我非常厌烦 我想 l just got very browned-off, l suppose,
并且决定 所有这些唱片公司的人 and decided that all these record company people,
所有这些记者和其他团体 all these journalists and other groups,
所有这些在管理机构 代理处自命不凡的人 all these pretentious twanners that are in management, agents,
他们都很讨厌 they can all just piss off,
因为他们很无聊 空虚 because they're so boring, vacuous,
都支持他们自己心中的神 你知道 and all up their own arses, you know.
我更喜欢在酒吧里 跟画家和设计师聊天 l prefer to talk to painters and decorators in the pub,
获得更为真实的体验 获得更有意思的对话 get a more real experience,get a more interesting conversation
离开画家和设计师 去王冠鹅酒吧或其他地方 out of just a painter and decorator down the Crown & Goose, or something.
我想就是那时候 你知道 And l suppose that's when, you know,
我在卡姆登经常去酒吧 l was hitting the pubs a lot more in Camden.
谢谢你 Thank you.
我们变得聪明起来 真的 We were getting quite clever with it, really,
但是有时候 有点聪明过头了 也许 but sometimes, a bit too clever, perhaps.
从那方面说 我们处在危险中 And we were in danger, by that point,
要成为一个讽刺 of becoming a bit caricaturish.
Country House产生的唯一原因 The only reason Country House even came into...
我们在Mile End演出 We played at Mile End,
在结束的时候我们试唱了这首新歌 and we tried out this new song at the end,
然后每个人都变得疯狂 and everyone went insane.
而且 从某种程度说 导火索就是那会儿 And, in a way, the last straw was when
我们公开不承认Country House是我们的 we sort of publicly disowned Country House,
在这些垃圾成功在歌迷中火了之后 after it had all...the shit had truly hit the fan!
如果你能分辨出Blur和Oasis lf you can tell an Oasis from a Blur,
你该整个晚上都如坐针毡了 you should be on tenterhooks this evening.
乐队之战到达了顶点 The battle of the bands is reaching its climax.
两支英国最为流行的组合 Two of Britain's most popular pop groups
开始了三十年来最为激烈的排行榜争战 have begun the biggest chart war in 30 years.
Blur和Oasis在同一天发行单曲 Blur and Oasis released singles on the same day.
周日下午有一支将登上排行榜榜首 On Sunday afternoon,one will go to the top of the charts.
是来自曼彻斯特的Oasis 还是来自伦敦的Blur? Will it be Oasis from Manchester,or Blur from London?
他们自己和唱片公司都没有 Neither the groups nor their record companies are available
告诉我们关于这场战争或者这次成功 to speak to us about the battle or the success.
我想每个人都需要对手 l think everyone needs adversaries.
我想有的人就是擅长让比自己比别人好 l think some people are better at making them than others.
我们都爱当可以与别人竞争的时候 Damon and all of us loved it when we would kick out against somebody,
他们也会回击我们 这很有趣 and they would kick back, it was just fun.
我想我们又回到了摇滚的本源 l think we've gotta get back to rock and roll,
不是Chas n Dave那种扫烟囱音乐 not Chas n Dave chimney-sweeping music.
你知道 在乐队中的天性是 你总是会很有竞争性 you know, by the very nature of being in a band, you're always quite competitive,
你想成为第一 真的 and you wanna come top, really.
是的 他很有竞争性 Damon yeah, he's very competitive, Damon.
而我仍然不知道是谁把发片日改动了 And l still really don't know who moved their release date
跟某些人的发片日重合 to coincide with anybody else's release date.
那也许...也许是Damon lt was probably...it was probably Damon.
我想那就是它的意义 l thought that's what it was about.
也许也是为什么 你知道 这些年来这么多人 And that's probably why, you know, so many people for so many years
对我们非常非常的怀疑 were very, very suspicious of me.
但是 你知道 Noel经常这样选择对我嗤之以鼻 But, you know, Noel chose to kind of take the piss out of me, constantly,
这没什么 但是那时候真的伤害了我 and it's OK,but it really hurt me at the time,
我感到非常非常脆弱 and l felt very, very vulnerable,
因为 你知道 Oasis 从很多方面讲 because, you know, Oasis, in many ways,
有点像在学校里的一霸 无论如何我都要忍受 were kind of like the bullies that l had to put up with at school anyway.
他们给人留下的印象是他们能 They gave the impression that they would...
他们比你们参与过更多的斗争 归根结底就是那样 that they'd been in a lot more fights than you and it came down to that.
我觉得这很廉价 所有的注意力都在它上面 l just found it very cheap,the whole attention that was put on it.
关于焦点 关于英伦摇滚之战 That sort of focus,that sort of ''Battle of Britpop'',
北方的工人阶级和南方的资产阶级你知道 Working-class Northerners and shandy-drinking Southerners, you know...
为了冠军位置而战 battle it out for the number one slot.
来 帮我们个忙 Come on, do us a favour.
在六天内 各自的单曲都卖出了差不多25万 ln just six days, both singles have sold almost a quarter of a million copies.
这是自80年代中期以来流行单曲销量最大的一周 lt's the biggest week for pop singles since the mid-'80s.
我喜欢成为第一名这主意 l loved the idea of a number one,
但是我想要真正实至名归的第一名 but l just wanted a really decent number one,
没有所有的 没有英国标准 你知道吗? without all the...without the BS, you know?
当我还是个年轻人的时候我想成为那种头号乐队 l wanted a number one that bands had when l was a teenager.
我想那天当 我们全都有些困惑 l think we were all quite at sea the day that number...
当Country House成了第一名 that Country House got to number one.
我们都聚在苏荷屋听那首歌 We were all meeting up at Soho House to listen to that.
判决 The rundown.
香槟的软木塞就要在伦敦的今夜跃出 The champagne corks will be popping in London tonight
因为冠军单曲 最高纪录 because the number one song,the highest new entry
是Blur的Country House is Blur's Country House.
那个夜晚不是特别美好 因为Graham lt wasn't a very nice night,because Graham...
他有那么一刻企图跳窗而去 He tried to jump out of a window at one fucking point.
我想那样做提醒我想起很多人 l just thought that me doing that would remind a lot of those people
很多人都涉及其中 that there was sort of human beings involved,
这不仅仅是商业或者逢迎 and it wasn't just business and backslapping.
你知道 这是 you know, it was...
你知道 我是什么 25岁或者什么 you know, what was l? 25 or something.
你知道 就是个孩子 我们都不过是孩子 you know, just a kid. We were just kids.
我们没有再一起出去混了 We didn't really hang out any more.
嗯 Dave差不多结束了他的感情 Well, Dave was kind of sort of at the end of his relationship
转入了可怕的离婚 and entering an awful divorce.
Graham开始酗酒 Graham was...was an alcoholic.
Alex... Alex was...
很有魅力 très glamorous
在伦敦西区 in the West End.
而我有点在... And l was kind of in a sort of...
演出中处于奇怪的位置 strange permutation of Performance.
我们在伦敦住在不同的地方 We lived in totally different parts of London,
我们有完全不同的朋友 你知道吗 and we had totally different friends,you know?
就是那样 真的 And that was it, really.
我们不再是乡下最酷的乐队了 We went from being the coolest band in the country
我想 你知道 真的 最不酷的 to, l suppose, you know, really,the uncoolest
在 好像在某只单曲里 in, like, in one single.
这不是夸张 This is not an exaggeration.
我不介意我在哪条街道 lt didn't matter what street l was in,
如果有人看到我从某个屋子出来 if someone saw me from a house,
他们会打开窗户打开的Oasis音乐 they'd open the window and put on Oasis.
我每走进一个商店 And every single shop l went into,
只要我一走进大门 就是 Oasis as soon as l walked through the door,it would... Oasis.
他们 就像 They'd be, like...
你知道 有点令人兴奋 you know, a little bit of kind of excitement,
不管我走到哪里 Oasis的音乐都继续着 and Oasis would come on,didn't matter where l went.
看起来我们使我们走入了一个境地 We kind of seemed to manoeuvre ourselves into a position
人们变得恨我们 where everyone hates us,
从每个人都热爱我们 from, really, everybody loving us.
也就是在那时候 我们处在我们的最佳状态 我想 And it's at that point that we're at our best, l think.
Graham处在他个人的 不好的境地 Graham was in his own personal...bad place.
我想我有点处于 l think l'm in a kind of...
中年 中年流行危机 mid-life...mid-pop-life crisis.
就是感觉他 有点像 上帝 我是在一个合适的乐队里么? Just maybe felt he was, like,"God, am l in the right band?"
流行让我恶心 Pop makes me very sick.
每个人之间的对话都变得奇怪起来 Communication had got kind of weird between everybody,
当我在酒吧里 跟画家和设计师聊天的时候 and this is when l was talking to a lot more painters and decorators in the pub.
我给Damon写了一封信 关于音乐的一些事 l wrote Damon a letter.Something about the music
一切开始 变得有点 我们累了 我们需要休息 and everything being...getting a bit,"We're tired, we need a rest."
我想做那种能让人再次惊叹的音乐 l wanna make music that scares people again.
人们讨论Modern Life ls Rubbish三部曲 People talk about this trilogy of Modern Life ls Rubbish,
Parklife和The Great Escape Parklife and The Great Escape,
但是我们的计划不是那样的 and we didn't plan it that way,
我假设在大逃亡时候 我们 but l suppose after The Great Escape, we...
我感觉到了这种需求 我们需要去些别的地方 l did feel the need...that we needed to go somewhere else.
我猜测我们心灵之间存在某种的隔阂 you know, l guess we put some sort of spiritual distance between ourselves,
和其他乱七八糟的东西 and the old whoopsie-daisy, la-di-dah,gor-blimey.
在那之后是一种新的循环 lt was a sort of new cycle after that,you know.
Blur是 Blur was...
这些家伙什么时候长大成人 When did those guys grow balls?
我们是有很多面的乐队之一 We're one of those bands that has a lot of different sides to us,
我们只是想从内而外 and, you know, we just wanted to make visceral,
发自内心去玩摇滚 straight from the heart, straight to the heart,fucking rock music.
我有点想做爵士乐 可是我没有 l kind of wanted to make a jazz record,but l'm not...
在那方面我做的还不够 l'm not good enough at it yet.
那对我可能是一个转折点 That was kind of a turning point for me, probably,
在我作为一个音乐人或者一个吉他演奏者的生涯中 in my whole development as a musician or whatever, guitar player.
我们打算给Graham更自由的空间 We decided to give Graham a much freer hand
在专辑上 with that record.
我受到很多美国吉他手的影像 因为他们 l was getting influenced by a lot of American guitarists, because they...
美国的吉他手们 比如Steve Malkmus American guitarists like Steve Malkmus
真的在做很有意思的活儿 were doing really interesting stuff
我认为作为一个吉他手 我需要汲取这些养分 and l needed to be nourished,l suppose, as a guitar player,
在英国的音乐里面没有这些东西 and there was none of that happening in English music.
虽然英国音乐现在非常流行 Although English music was now very popular
是年度流行的口味或其他什么 and flavour of the year or whatever.
我要跨越国界 l had gone over to the States
听小厂牌的很多的东西 and was listening to a lot of stuff that was on the smaller labels.
Graham听的东西让我感到被拉伸 l kind of got drawn towards what Graham was listening to,
然后进入另一个不同的领域 then got into different parts of it.
Graham应该对这种结果很高兴 l think Graham was much happier as a result.
在很多方面 这是一张充满挑战性的专辑 lt was a much more aggressive record,in many ways,
或者可能是充满感情的 or emotional record, maybe.
我认为我们现在做的音乐 是我们过去一直想做的 l think the music we're making now is the music we've always wanted to make
在某种程度上 有一点偏离 but got distracted from, in a way.
如果你记得 在前15排 lf you bear in mind that the sort of front 15 rows
我们The Great Escape的演唱会上 of the gigs that we were doing on The Great Escape
都是14 15岁的女孩子们 were 14, 15-year-old girls,
这是我们跨越的一大步 it was a fucking big balls move
我不需要哪些 我感兴趣的是这件事 to go, l don't need that.What l'm interested in is this.
这是拯救我们饭碗的真正原因 And, you know,that's what really saved our bacon.
我真的很喜欢这张专辑 我认为是我们最好的一张 l'm really fond of that record. l think it's one of our best.
Damon的歌从某种意义上来说 对我比对他的启示更大 Damon's songs at this point were revealing more to me than him.
当Damon唱给我听那些歌时 像他一直做的那样清唱 When Damon sang me the songs on acoustic, like he normally does,
一样是带着忧郁的歌声 there was the same kind of melancholy songs,
之后我们又听了一些他在家里的录音样带 and then we hear some this little home demos,
可显然他自己忘记了一些 and he was obviously gone off his head a little bit more.
Beetlebum是关于什么的? What's Beetlebum about?
如果这是一个常识 我是不需要解释的 lf it's common knowledge,l don't need to talk about it, do l?
噢 天 这是关于什么的? Oh, God. What's it about?
大多数的人们过着适度的生活 Well, that whole period of a lot of people's lives was fairly...
适度被海洛因迷幻的生活 was fairly muddied by heroin,for a lot of people.
这有一种 在那个地方 And it's sort of...it's in that place.
在那个时间 有很多东西 And a lot of stuff was, at that time.
- 读出来 - 看仔细 - Read it out. - Look carefully...
看仔细 你将在今天看到全镇的命运 Look carefully, and you'll see this lot all over town today.
僵硬的笑容 疲惫的双腿 眼睛里闪烁着激动的余烬 Fixed grins, tired limbs, and the embers of excitement still flickering in their eyes.
是的 他们是昨晚去看演唱会的幸运家伙 yep,they were the lucky so-and-sos at the Blur gig last night.
Blur对于有理智的乐迷来说是合乎情理的国家宝藏 Blur are the thinking music fan's national treasure for good reason.
当英摇逐渐开始走下坡路 While Britpop floundered into Britplop,
这个来自埃塞克斯的四人组 the Essex four-piece...
-流行团体 -好极了 说的是流行团体? - beat combo - Excellent. Does it say "beat combo"?
不 没有说 流行团体 No, it doesn't say "beat combo".
这个埃塞克斯四人组 依旧保持着乐坛霸主地位 ..Essex four-piece were always ahead of the game,
他们改变了风格 并轻松打入美国市场 changing styles and cracking America with ease.
Blur已经推出了他们的第六张专辑13 Blur have put out their sixth album, 13,
它至少被赋予两个标志性的转变 which marks at least two departures.
在过去 Damon写的多是传记性歌曲 ln the past, songwriter Damon Albarn has written biographical songs
淋漓尽致地展现了伦敦的个性 telling stories about London characters.
但这些故事的灵感都来源于自己的生活 But these are autobiographical,many inspired
在和Justine结束八年的感情后 by the end of his eight-year relationship with singer Justine Frischmann.
乐队无忧无虑的英式摇滚风格也随之发生了转变 The jaunty Britpop style has also been replaced,
在全新制作人William Orbit的操刀下 under the supeRVision of a new producer,William Orbit,
专辑中加入了更为复杂的电声 by more sophisticated electronic sounds.
你知道 我认为你需要不断地改变 you know, l think you have to keep changing.
这种想法在某种程度上 That sort of thinking was sort of...
成了关键因素 key.
我觉得 你知道 这是一张绝对有创造力的专辑 l found it real, you know,and it's a hugely creative album.
制作过程与以往完全不同 lt was a different way of working.
所以产生了一连串的 lt came out of a lot of...
干扰杂音 jamming.
你不停地在录音 y ou were recording all the time.
做一张专辑更像是一个编辑的过程 Making a record became more of an editing process.
绝对是这样 天知道做出满意的效果要花上多少时间 There must have been, God knows howmany weeks' worth of sound to go through.
一小时一小时地去构造这些歌曲 Hours and hours and hours and hours to construct these songs.
录制一张专辑 最棒的地方在于 What's great about recording an album like that
你在创作时并不清楚结果是什么 直到它被整合架构完毕 is you don't know what you're doing until it's been organised.
它接近你想要的效果 当你去听自己的音乐 lt was as close as you'd get to hearing your own group without...
出来的效果真的会给你带来惊喜而不是处在表演中时 without being part of the process that really gives the game away to yourself.
整个过程充满魔力 你知道 lt was really full of magic,you know,
当你回过去听那段东西的时候 listening back to that stuff.
不过我们并不是把它们组织在一起 而是分成一段一段 But we didn't really make it together.We made it in bits.
当我在听歌曲地时候 我能听清整首歌曲的脉络 When l listen to them,l hear what was going on at the time,
并且听出我此刻的感想 and hear how l was feeling at the time.
我喜欢这种感觉 我也喜欢把它带到巡演上 l loved it at the time, and l loved taking it on tour.
但是我变得 有点心理想失衡 真的 But l as getting more and more kind of unbalanced, really.
制作13时遇到的麻烦 让局面开始失控 The trouble with 13 was things were starting to fall apart,
扰乱了我们之间的关系 between the four of us.
创作这张专辑的过程真是让人难过 lt was quite a sad process, making it.
连开会的时候人都没到齐 People not turning up to the sessions,
或者就是去哪里喝一杯 or turning up drunk,
要么相互争辩要么愤然离开 being abusive and storming off.
我参与了13的整个制作过程 l was really out there, around 13,
也导致了不少激烈的争执 which made for some pretty great noise,
但我也许就是那儿的麻烦者 but l was probably a bit crap to be around.
我并没怎么意识到事情 开始变糟 l didn't have much of a clue that things were going wrong
Damon和Justine的关系愈加棘手 with Damon and Justine,
虽然 你知道 这很容易猜到 although, you know,it was probably easy to guess.
他们俩的感情完全破裂了 That relationship just absolutely crashed.
我的意思是 你明白 l mean, you know.
这是个非常令人伤感的结局 lt really was a spectacularly sort of sad end.
歌曲散发的个性 就像是一种表现手段 Singing about characters was a kind of device,
不过转变似乎也在那时发生 13里突出的不再是技巧 but it seemed like there was a shift awayfrom sort of artifice, on 13,
这让他去真诚地演唱 发自心底深处 that he was genuinely singing from the bottom of his heart.
零距离 No Distance...
当我们听歌词的时候 就能感觉这种转变越来越明显 lt became pretty apparent when we were listening to the lyrics of that.
从另一方面说 它是个暗示 对于那时的我来说 And again, it was a reminder at that point for me
Damon不是 一个无情无义的事业狂 你知道 that Damon wasn't just a ruthless careerist maniac, you know,
那种毫无感知的类型 who had no feelings.
他充满了鲜活的血肉 He was actually flesh and blood
而且在情感上遭受了很大的打击 是的 and was hurting quite a lot, and, yeah.
我 你懂得 l... That... you know...
那件事之后让我又重新爱上了他 在某种程度上 That sort of thing makes me fall in love with him all over again, in a way.
就像"哎呀 他其实是我一样的人没有什么不同的啊" That,"Crikey. He is actually like me,he just does it in a different way."
当他们之间的合作融洽起来 When they were collaborating well,
他们在这张专辑上表现也更为合拍 it was better than ever, on that record.
比如Tender可能是他们至今为止合作最默契的歌 Like, Tender is probably their most collaborative ever tune.
Graham写下一段 Damon便跟着写下另一段 Graham wrote one bit,Damon wrote another.
我简直难以相信 l can't quite believe
那是一首多重要的歌曲 你知道吗? what an important song that is, now, you know?
你很难去达到两方面的平衡 lt's a very difficult thing to balance.
一边是让你保持 一个还算清醒的头脑 How to keep yourself in a reasonable state of mind,
一边同时要继续工作 and still...and still do the work.
我觉得Damon总是协调得很好 有一副男人的样子 l suppose Damon was always pretty good about being a man about it,
- 要是你明白我意思的话 - 我知道 - if you know what l mean. - yeah.
像是 好 那我们就 你知道 Like, "All right, let's..." you know,
处理想这方面他一向很在行 能把自己的事抛在一边 he's very good at putting anything of that about himself aside.
你知道 我们经历过各种事 而我只是说了冰山一角 you know, we were all going through things,but l just showed it more.
- 事情总是 - 你的情绪? - lt just always... - your emotion?
常常直接宣泄出来 但Damon永远可以 ..flying out of me,but Damon would always be able to...
我不清楚他究竟是擅长掩盖情绪 还是总能够置之度外 l don't know whether he buried it or whether he was able to just put it over there,
因为他心里装着些心事 because he had something to get on with.
这真是令人烦心的工作 This is the fucking job.
不过我更像是 But l was just a bit more of a...
Dramarama的一员 Dramarama.
- 每个乐队都需要他们其中的一个 - 没错 - Every band needs one of them. - y eah.
我想问问有关Graham的事 Let me ask you about Graham,
因为Graham已经不在乐队里了 cos Graham's not in the band any more.
- 是的 他不在了 - 我知道他已经开始单飞了 - No. - l know he's done a couple of solo things.
你知道他为什么离队吗 究竟发生了什么事 Do you know why he left? What actually happened?
你的眼睛很漂亮 你知道 you've got lovely eyes, you know.
也许Graham只是不想在乐队里待下去了 Maybe Graham just didn't want to be there any more.
或者他想尝试一些别的 Or needed to do something else.
Damon也想做点别的 而且他做了 Damon needed to do something else,and he did it.
然后当他重新回到Blur乐队 那个时候 And then he needed to do Blur again,and when it was...
Graham就再也不出现了 And then Graham didn't turn up.
我需要某个人在乎中间斡旋 但是没有人这样做 l needed some...someone to step in,but no one was doing it.
除了一个朋友过来劝解 最终做了这件事 Except when a friend stepped in and did it in the end.
但是我把自己关了一个月 But... So l got locked away for a month,
你知道 那真是个明智的决定 which was, you know, brilliant.
当我从里面走出来 我就意识到了 And then l came out and l knew
录音室里可能会出现紧张气氛 it was going to be sort of tense in the studio,
我在那里待了一段日子 l was there for a couple of days...
不太确定有多久 大概是三四天左右 l'm not quite sure.Maybe it was three or four days.
那里的氛围有点不同寻常 你知道吗? And the atmosphere was kind of weird,you know?
我的内心对现实情况 充满了许多悔意 There was a lot of resentfulness about the fact that l'd...
我想这其中存在着很多误解 And a lot of miscommunication, l think,
关于我为什么会进普里奥康复中心 真的 about why l'd gone into the Priory, really.
我想乐队当时真的都以为 l think the group were under the impression, really,
我已经是彻底无药可救了 that l was being deliberately destructive,
但是我没有 真的没有其他选择 but l wasn't, l really didn't have any choice.
我们跟经纪人表达了态度 他又跟Graham传了话 We said something to our manager,who said something to Graham,
天知道是什么状况 and God knows how,
但Graham听到的并不是我们的本意 but what got said to Graham wasn't what we were intending,
这让我们间的关系雪上加霜 and then that made it even worse.
我确信这不是我们经纪人的错 l'm sure it wasn't our manager's fault.
大家的情绪在那时都很激动 Emotions were running high at the time,
这很可能是我们的错 so it could easily have been our fault.
然后发生了一连串不愉快和许多 And there was a lot of crying and a lot of...
是的 那时期的确令人不快 yeah, it was an unpleasant time.
我认为他不是因为被告知才离队的 而是 l don't think he was told to leave, it was...
其实他是该回来的 等他解决好自己的问题之后 it was...just told to come back when he'd sorted himself out.
这就像是你的女友对你说 我不是想抛弃你 lt's like your girlfriend saying, Look, l'm not chucking you,
但最近一段日子我不想再见到你了 你明白我的意思 but l don't want to see you for a bit,and, you know...
是的 这话的意思你自己琢磨吧 yeah. Make of that what you will.
听着 你必须明白 Listen, you've got to understand that...
其实我已经没有兴趣 再去做一张Blur的专辑 l hadn't particularly wanted to make another Blur album,
因为我组建了Gorillaz because l had Gorillaz,
我厌倦了这个乐队 我只想继续好好生活 and l was sick of it,and l just wanted to get on with my life.
但我做过承诺 But l'd made a commitment...
去做下一张专辑 to start another album.
否则我会感觉 我让每个人感到失望 And l felt l would be terribly letting everyone down
即使我说 我已经卖出700万张唱片 非常感谢你们 if l just said, "l've just sold seven million albums, thank you very much"
我不需要这些 l don't need this.
于是我又肩负起重任 So l got back into the kind of saddle,
你知道 从那以后他就不见踪影 you know, and then he just didn't turn up.
我只能说 好吧 这样更好一点 年轻人 And l was just, like,Well, from my perspective, young man,
不是我想做这张专辑 not only did l not want to do this,
我做这张专辑是因为 我觉得这是对整个乐队的承诺 but l'm doing it because l felt the commitment to us,
因为'你知道'我们就像兄弟一样 because, you know, we're like brothers,
可你不但不出现 but also, you just haven't turned up.
还不告诉任何人 And you didn't even tell anyone.
我只想说 好吧 你知道么 我已经受够这些了 And l was just, like, "Well, you know what? l really have had enough."
我走进洗手间 是的 感觉有点别扭 l went into the loo, right, and l... lt was odd.
我看着镜中的自己 心想 l looked at myself in the mirror,and l was like,
这就是音乐背后的一切 This is just like Behind The Music.
我说 哦不 这发生在了我的身上 l was like,"Oh, no. lt's happening to me."
我想这当头一棒 也许能让他清醒过来 Well, l thought a kick in the face might actually sober him up.
这的确起作用了 And it did.
但看了Metallica的纪录片 But having watched the Metallica film,
他们始终在耐心等待歌手的回归 they kind of wait for their singer to be ready.
也许 我想 你知道 And maybe, l think, you know...
也许我们应该等待 不过 Maybe we should have waited,but there was...
也许我们该一直等下去 maybe we would have been waiting forever.
只是我们不知道那会是何时 We didn't know at the time.
The Think Tank. The Think Tank.
- 我们应该把这写在墙上 - 是的 - We should just write on the wall. - yeah.
Think Tank是一张不错的专辑 Think Tank was a good record,
但缺少了Graham确实不一样力度不一样了 but it wasn't the same live without Graham,and it wasn't the same dynamic.
你知道 我想念他 他是我最好的朋友 you know, l missed him.He's my best friend.
Blur的年代在某种程度上结束了 The Blur years were sort of over.
我开始了一段难以置信的发现旅程 和我的伴侣Suzi l went on such a fantastic voyage of discovery with my partner Suzi,
她一直在旅行的途中 整个90年代都是如此 who had been travelling through the whole of the '90s
所以她对英式摇滚很陌生 也不太清楚英国现在的变化 and who was oblivious to Britpop, had no idea what had been going on in Britain.
我去世界各地走了走 还在非洲待了很长一段时间 l saw the world,and l spent a lot of time in Africa,
只是出去走走 了解别人 just hanging out, getting to know people,
变得非常恍恍惚惚的 getting very, very stoned.
只是 And it just...
它似乎不再像过去 那样重要 你知道吗 lt no longer seemed to be that important any more, you know?
仅仅是因为我见识多了 从各个方面了解了世界 Purely because l'd just seen the world from many perspectives,
你知道 因此意识到 and realised that, you know,
英伦三岛有多么小 this little island is,
那片我深爱的土地 which l love so deeply,
实际上这就是个北半球上的小岛国 is, in fact, a little island in the northern hemisphere.
我并不打算去做个人专辑 l didn't plan to make solo albums,necessarily,
我只是想多陪伴自己的孩子 l just planned to spend time with my kid,
多享受一下家庭的乐趣好好思考自己的问题 be a bit more domestic,get my head together,
放松一下 真的 and sort of relax, really.
远离画家和装饰者的角色 只做一个普通人 Wean myself off the painter and decorators,and just be a normal bloke.
接着创作了这些歌曲 就是这样 But these songs came out, and that was it.
所以我又开始与另一支小乐队巡演 So l toured again with another little group.
我在那时好像有了中年危机 l kind of had a mid-life crisis in reverse.
许多银行经理想觉得他们是在蹉跎生命 Most merchant bankers think they're wasting their life,
到底为什么 使他们没能成为摇滚明星? and why on earth didn't they become a rock star?
我决定 l decided...
只有我知道其中的缘由 for reasons known only to me,
我天生就该成为一名律师 what l was born to do was to become a lawyer
或者是一位议员或者是更有价值的人物 or an MP or something a bit more worthy.
我不知道究竟该做什么 l didn't know what the hell to do.
我在制作Think Tank的时候结婚了 l got married during Think Tank,
于是一切都改变了 and everything changes then.
这就像是摇滚乐的结束 真的 That was kind of the end of rock and roll, really,
当你结婚了 when you get married.
生活进入不同的阶段 lt's the start of something else.
偶尔撞见他们中任何一个的想法都让人不寒而栗 The idea of bumping into any of them was terrifying, as well,
你知道 因为很多事都被媒体曲解报道了 because, you know, things were being misreported and said in the press,
我那时有点愤恨而愚蠢 and l was being a little bit resentful and silly,
说了些可笑的话 其实我本该闭嘴的 saying daft stuff when l should have just shut up.
我记得在伦敦动物园见到Jamie和Damon l remember seeing Jamie and Damon at London Zoo,
而我整个下午待在伦敦动物园都在躲避Damon and l spent my whole afternoon at London Zoo hiding from Damon!
这太荒唐了 他知道我在躲他 Absolutely ridiculous.And he knew l was hiding.
这实在有点愚蠢 And it was just silly.
其实我真的没有做好 l just wasn't really ready...
见到他们的心理准备 我根本没有料想到 ready to see them, l don't suppose,
无论是在舞台上 私底下还是电视节目上 偏偏 on a stage, personally or on the telly, so...
格拉斯顿伯里音乐节来了 So, Glastonbury coming up.
依旧像以往那样受瞩目 That's sort of as big as it gets.
你还感到紧张吗 Do you still get nervous?
或者你已经达到了一个境界 不会再感到紧张了 Or do you get to a point where you're just not nervous any more?
我只是知道 我知道有多少 l just know what... l know how much...
多少 how much...
努力被投入其中 effort has to go into it to make it...
来达到那种水平 就像昨晚演出的感觉一样 to get it to that level where it feels as it felt like last night.
可以说总是有一种 So there's always a sense of...
表演的期待 anticipation before...
在之前的一小时之前 我才知道我们应该做什么 an hour or so before,l just know how much we've got to do.
我知道得努力表演两个小时 l know l've got to work really hard for two hours.
你不得不为之做好思想准备 you have to psych yourself up for that.
- 你真的 -这就像赛跑比赛 - And you really... - lt's like running a race.
如果你想完这成长距离比赛 你真的要 lf you want to even finish a long race,you've got to really...
你仿佛在某处比赛赛跑 你 you were running a race at one point. you were...
是的 我在跑 我不是在跑一个 yeah, l am running... l'm not running a...
我在跑 l am running.
- 我不知道该往哪里跑 - 你就在现场不停跑动 - l don't know where l'm running to. - y ou were running on the spot.
我不清楚我有没有回避什么 但我确实是不停地奔跑 l don't know if l'm running away from anything, but l'm definitely running.
我喜欢那种感觉 l like that.
我从未想到过 我有机会说这些 l never ever really thought l would get a chance to say this,
但全英国最炙手可热的演唱会票已经近在咫尺了 but the hottest ticket throughout the United Kingdom in the near future
Blur要去格拉斯顿伯里了 is Blur headlining Glastonbury.
当然 要提及的是格莱斯顿伯里最特别之处 Surely the important thing about Glastonbury in particular
在于它使人联想起 is its very clear connection with...
那种非常古老的仪式 在那个特定区域上演 with kind of very ancient rites that were performed in that vicinity.
尽管人类已经改变了太多 自从 And although human beings have changed so much since...
比方说自从德鲁伊时期 since the druids, for example,
但是有一种情感 but there's still a kind of sort of...
仍深深地留存于我们的心底彼此间相互分享 deep need inside of us allto commune with something.
我想我们需要在公开表现这个治愈的过程 l think we all really needed to be very public about this healing process.
而音乐就是治愈的一大良方 And the music was a big part of the healing process.
我想我们能够让人们享受这段时光 l think we thought people would have a good time,
但我们并没有意识到这个过程会是如此奇妙 but we didn't realise just quite what an amazing time,
那种感觉会是那么棒 and how amazing it would feel.
他们唱着 "Oh, my baby" They were singing, "Oh, my baby"
那是我在一个清晨梦到这个场景 that bit that l sort of dreamt one morning,
在半梦半醒的时分 in half-sleep,
然后就写了下来 and sort of wrote down,
在录音室里 我对他说 and in the studio, said,
我想到有一段正适合那首歌 Damon "l've got a bit that'll fit with that song, Damon"
那便是我在歌曲里加入的一小段 and that was my little bit in that song.
但当你听到你写的歌 被几千人一同演唱 But to have that sung back like that by thousands of people
那种感觉太不可思议了 was really unbelievable.
我想有些事永远改变了 在录制Tender的时候 l think something changed forever during Tender.
保重！晚安 Take care! Good night.
今年格拉斯顿伯里的演出 Playing Glastonbury this year was
是我从未有过的美好回忆 as beautiful a memory as l'll ever have.
就像是一个治愈的时刻 And as a kind of, sort of, healing moment,
我感到非常得荣幸 能有机会参与其中 l feel very, very privileged to have been able to participate in it.
这种感觉很美妙 lt was beautiful.
Blur已经准备好表演 他们两场盛大演出中的第一场 Blur are getting ready to play their first of two giant gigs
在今晚的海德公园 in London's Hyde Park tonight.
乐队称他们将把满腔的热情投入于今晚的表演 The band say they're going to put their heart and soul into the performances tonight.
我们将在明天六点的"音乐早餐"节目报道这次的演唱会 We'll have reports from the concert tomorrow on 6 Music Breaakfast.
我想念你们每一个人 而且在几个场合中 l did miss everyone,and it was several events
让我想和台下的观众进行交流 that made me want to talk to them,
唤起几分怀旧的感觉 or have some sort of nostalgia
从另一个角度 来说这让我想起 我的老朋友们 that made me think about my old friends in a different way.
在我看来 这像是个最了不起的故事 lt seemed to me like the most fantastic story...
我从未听过的 直到这一切发生 l'd ever heard, while it was happening,
我一直想把这种感觉写下来 and l always wanted to write it all down.
我想得越多 写得越多 The more l started thinking about it and writing about it,
这是一段多么奇妙的旅程 what a wonderful journey it seemed it was.
我对任何人都没有恶意 l didn't feel any kind of bitterness towards anybody.
Alex的书在某种程度上启发了我 And Alex's book kind of made me...
阅读的过程很愉快 lt was lovely to read that.
它让我们想起了 我们经历过的所有事 lt was a good reminder of everything we've been through.
我很感激 因为他在写的东西 让我觉得很温暖 l was very grateful to Alex, because he was so affectionate towards me in that book.
我不清楚 l had no idea that...
Graham不知道 反正我还想起了他 Graham didn't know that l thought that about him anyway.
我想这种事可谓千载难逢 我有次开车去诺森伯兰 l didn't think it was gonna happen again.l was driving up to Northumberland
就是去年的11月8日 last November, November 8th,
路上我的电话响了 我一看是Blur的经纪人 and my phone went and l saw it was Blur's manager,
于是我就接了电话 so l picked it up.
他开始跟我说 "Damon和Graham见面了" And he started telling me. He said,"Damon and Graham have met each other."
然后我的手机就没信号了 And then l lost the reception.
我们遇上了 我 你知道 相遇过程很直接 We met up, and l... you know, it was pretty immediate.
我真的很想念Damon l had missed Damon quite a lot.
不过我随之想起他逗乐我的一面 But l started to miss the side of him that made me laugh.
我从没有想到过这个 那太可怕了 l really hadn't thought about that an awful lot,
因为我想"Damon肯定对我很生气" because l thought,"Damon's just bloody angry with me."
我根本不会想到 他会出乎意料地高兴 lt was impossible to think of him being unintentionally hilarious.
他见到我第一件事 就是去买葡萄干蛋糕 And the first thing he did was buy an Eccles cake,
然后他把蛋糕分成两半 你知道 which he broke in half with his hands,you know,
把一片扔给我 shoved one in my...
又把咖啡全撒再了他裤子上然后开始咒骂 and then spilt coffee all down his chinos and swore.
好吧 我真的 你懂得 我实在太激动了 Well, l was quite... you know,l was very excited that it had all...
我们之间所有的芥蒂 似乎一下就消失了 All that rubbish on both sides seemed to have evaporated,
我们坐在门口的台阶闲聊了一会儿 We sat on this doorstep and we were having a little chat,
他说 咳 这样很好 不是吗 and he was like, "Well, it's all right, innit?"
我说 是的 没错 这样很好 不是么? l was like, ''Well, yeah, it's all right.lt's all right, innit?''
接着这两个家伙说 哦 真是见鬼 And then these two lads were like,Oh. Fucking hell!
嘿 我们是住在这儿的 你们介意 挪一下位置吗 Wow. We live there. Would you mind...
这是我们家的台阶 That's our doorstep.
哦 抱歉 别人看着我们的表情 就好像 Oh, sorry.And they were looking at us, like...
然后我们走到拐角给了对方一个大大的拥抱 Then we went round the corner and we had a big hug,
突然冒出了一个念头 我们应该再举办一些演唱会 and knocked around the idea of doing some gigs.
是的 在那之后 我的情绪一下子高涨了 yeah, l was on a total high,though, after that.
我知道真正让我快乐的是重新拥有我的朋友和过去的一切 l knew it would make me happy to get my friends back and everything,
我当时笑得合不拢嘴 有好一阵子都是这样 but l really was grinning from ear to ear for days and days,
那种感觉好极了 it was absolutely brilliant.
我有很多工作 但回到乐队绝对不算是工作 l've got lots of jobs,but that definitely wasn't one of them,
作为Blur的一员 去开演唱会 being in Blur, doing those gigs.
这感觉并不像工作 而是像玩耍 就像最一开始一样 lt didn't feel like work, it felt like play.lt felt like it did at the very beginning.
比我最早见到Damon的时候 他现在更容易亲近了 l think Damon is possibly closer now to when l first met him.
我想我们都是 l think we all are.
和20多岁相比我觉得现在的感情变得更单纯了 l feel almost a lot more innocent now than l did during my 20s,
那时我感觉 太过愤世嫉俗 when l just was feeling so much resentfulness and cynicism.
我最近感觉像回到了90年代中期之前 l feel a lot more pre-mid-'90s these days.
我们犯了许多错误 和其他人一样 We've made mistakes,like everybody else has made.
我只是想展现Blur最好的一面 And l just wanted to show the best of Blur.
最终 我们做了 At the end of the day, what we have done,
许多解散乐队所无法做到的 which so many bands who split up didn't do,
我们成功回来了 完好无缺的 is we managed to come back, intact,
带来了前所未有的最好演出 and do the best gigs we've ever done.
你知道 对我而言 那就是我们不同之处 And, you know, that, for me,is what is different about us,
实际上 我想我们做到的是 证明了对我们友情的忠诚 the fact that we did that, l think,is a testament to our original friendship.
这就是为什么我最开始那么做的原因 That was my reason for doing it in the first place.