This programme contains some strong language.
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Thank you. Welcome to this amazing room.
I love the decay, I love the room, I love the artists in it.
And we begin,
and welcome The 1975!
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All right.
# She showed me what love is
# I'm actin' like I know myself
# Oh, in case you didn't notice
# Oh, oh, I would go blind just to see you
# I'd go too far just to have you near
# In my soul, I've got this feeling, I
# Didn't know until I seen ya
# My, my, my, oh, my, my, my
# You mind my mind Oh, mind my mind
# You mind my mind
# She's insatiable, is what she is
# Her body's like a modern art
# Take it out in front of me
# I'm gonna stop messin' it up because I'm
# Feelin' like I'm messin' it up
# Because I'm
# Callin' out your name and God help me
# Cos, oh, I'm never gonna love again, hey
# I'm never gonna love again, hey, oh... #
Come on, boys.
# Show me your love
# Why don't you grow up and see
# Show me your love
# Why don't you grow up and see
# Show me your love
# Why don't you grow up and see
# Show me your love
# Why don't you
# You met me at the right time
# Met me at the right time, oh
# Show me your love, why don't you
# Oh, oh, oh, oh
# Oh, oh, oh
# Oh-oh-oh-oh
# She showed me what love is Showed me what love is
# Now I'm actin' like I know myself Actin' like I know myself
# Oh, in case you didn't notice Ooh-ooh
# Oh, oh, oh, I'm never gonna love again, hey
# I'm never gonna love again, hey, oh... #
Oh, yeah, here we go.
# Show me your love
# Why don't you grow up and see
# Show me your love
# Why don't you grow up and see
# Show me your love
# Why don't you grow up and see
# Show me your love, why don't you... #
Now loop it round. Go!
All right, keep it going.
Nothing wrong with a bit of self-indulgence. Let's go.
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Fabulous popular music.
The 1975!
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More number ones than I've had hot dinners today.
Who are marvellous guests today?
Let me tell you, we have, from Portland, Oregon,
Ural Thomas & The Pain.
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In this direction, an incredible, wonderful singer
and songwriter, Victoria Canal.
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I'm not sure where they're from,
but it feels that they must be from outer space,
it is The Comet Is Coming!
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And over here, from Rotherham,
I'm delighted to welcome Self Esteem!
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# We're still texting then
# But I'm certainly not your friend
# I don't know where this began
# But I know where it ends
# What could you possibly be gaining
# By asking how my day has been
# And forwarding things that you've seen?
# I know you want me back I know, I know
# But you, you can't say that Cos you yellow
# My hunger
# Times my impatience
# Makes me feel reckless
# So I let ya
# Let you be selfish
# And careless with my head
# OK
# No-one believed in you
# Can't be sure why I did do
# The ex got back in touch
# To be sure you couldn't see this through
# So she's jealous of me
# You should have wrote better songs, honey
# Make yourself the sun
# And not just be a waiting daisy
# And I can see it now I see, I see
# What it was all about And it ain't me
# My hunger
# Times my impatience
# Makes me feel reckless
# So I let ya
# I let you be selfish
# And careless with my head
# Part of being funny is having some sincerity
# And using both of them wisely
# I hope one day you'll finally see
# So I'll leave you unread
# I don't care how you feel about it
# I wish you all the best
# It was almost fun while it lasted
# I say almost - I mean that
# I say almost - I mean it
# Hunger
# Times my impatience Makes me feel reckless
# So I let ya
# I let you be selfish
# And careless with my head
# I cannot stress this enough
# You'll never know how to love
# To learn it like this was rough
# It's not something I'm proud of
# To even get near to me
# Was some fucking wizardry
# I ignored the warnings
# But from that, I'm learning
# My hunger
# Times my impatience
# Makes me feel reckless
# So I let ya
# I let you be selfish
# And careless with my head
# My hunger
# Times my impatience
# Makes me feel reckless
# So I let ya
# I let ya be selfish Careless with my head
# My hunger
# Oh, oh-oh
# My hunger Hunger
# Oh, oh-oh
# I cannot stress this enough
# You'll never know how to love
# To learn it like this was rough
# It's not something I'm proud of
# To even get near to me
# Was some fucking wizardry
# I ignored the warnings
# But from that, I'm learning. #
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Self Esteem!
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Who I shall enjoy chatting with later.
But now, at the piano, I'm going to have a little chat
with a man that has an extraordinary story
and he's on the show tonight, we welcome Ural Thomas.
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Welcome to the show,
it's great to have you here.
So, you just finished your UK tour here,
have you enjoyed your time over here?
Oh, it's been wonderful, I tell you, it's just wonderful,
I can't even put it into words.
It's just been spectacular.
And your story is amazing,
because you start but then you pull back from music for many years,
and then you come back. But where does music start for you -
when you were a little child, what did you hear?
Well, I was actually in the bench under my mum's feet
while she was playing, she backed up the choir at the church,
and one day I was in the kitchen
and I started singing some of the songs, washing dishes,
I was about four years old
and she says, "Boy, I didn't know you knew all those songs."
She says, "How did you do that?"
I said, "Mom, I listened."
"I was at your feet underneath the organ!"
Yes, "I listened at your feet, going down with the beat!"
Now, you had great success, you were working,
you did 40 shows at the Apollo,
you were working with all these amazing people and everything,
and then you backed away from the music industry - why was that?
It was, er...
..not what I expected. I just...
I thought that it would be, like, you know, you'd get up
and you'd sing and you enjoy everything,
but I stepped into a world of business,
it wasn't a world of just music and entertainment, it was...
It was like...
I don't know, I had my heart broken.
Because it was so cut-throat? It was really bad.
And the people that I thought I would get a chance to sing
and enjoy, as a... You know, just as a team,
or just to do things with, they were...
..just disappointing in a lot of ways.
But I didn't take it that way.
I took it as a lesson for learning,
and I learned that life is what you make it. Mm.
So I went back home and I started working with people,
and children, that love the music.
And so, from there, I just continued to grow,
and I haven't really looked back,
and then I ended up with a group of wonderful fellas,
and that's the guys in The Pain.
They're an amazing group, aren't they, The Pain?
But you did completely go away from music
and you were doing other work, and then you came back, triumphantly,
if I may say so, with this great band
and this album that you've got out... Yes. ..at the moment.
And of course, you worked at the Apollo, right back in the time
when all those great legends were coming through -
it must have been a fantastic atmosphere.
What sort of people were there?
Well, it was... It was really wonderful,
I worked with some wonderful players at that particular time, too.
I worked with Otis Redding and Carla Thomas...
You were saying you heard Jackie Wilson singing?
Yes, I heard Jackie Wilson singing, and I heard these people sing.
That is a fabulous man.
And I got to hear him, and he was,
he was one of the most fabulous entertainers I've ever seen.
He was a very, very, very, talented man.
You told me earlier, what was the song that you heard him singing?
Well, the one that I heard at that particular time,
it wasn't very popular, but it was called Stand By Me.
Was he just in his dressing room singing the...?
Well, I was doing something different at the time,
but then I heard this song and I loved it and I performed it myself
in other places, and I said, "Well, this is a wonderful song."
Because it had a good message.
Like, stand by me, you know.
And I...
JOOLS PLAYS OPENING CHORDS
# When the night
# Has come
# And the land is dark
# And the moon
# Is the only
# Light we'll see
# No, I won't
# Be afraid
# I-I won't
# Be afraid
# Just as long
# As you stand
# Stand by me
# So, darlin', darlin'
# Stand
# Stand by me
# Oh, stand
# Stand by me
Stand by me
# Stand by me
# If the sky
# That we live under
# Oh, should crumble and fall
# Or the mountain
# Should crumble
# To the sea
# No, no, no, I won't
# I won't be afraid
# Just as long
# As you stand
# Stand by me
# Darlin', darlin'
# Stand
# Stand by me
# Oh-oh
# Stand by me
Stand by me
# Stand by me. #
APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
Ural Thomas!
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Let's go into a completely different universe, perhaps literally,
because this next group describe this exquisite work
that you're about to hear as an intergalactic head-banger.
That's my kind of music, my kind of talk.
We welcome The Comet Is Coming!
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
The Comet is Coming!
Let's move over this way a little bit.
Chris Martin describes this next song as one of the best ever.
I quite agree with him.
Please welcome Victoria Canal.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
# If I were you, I would open my curtains
# If I were you, I would have a look outside
# Put on my shoes and leave this sunken room behind
# And I would drive
# And on my way, I would visit your mother
# If I were you, I would ask about her life
# Maybe you'll find that being noticed for so long
# Will make her cry
# Mm, mm-mm, mm
# Who knows how long we've got?
# As long as I'm breathing, I
# Know it's not too late to love
# Oh, oh, mm-mm, mm
# Oh, oh, ooh
# If I were you, I would pass by your brother's
# Oh, oh, oh
# Neither of you could ever throw a fight
# Mm, mm-mm, mm-mm, mm
# But, son, I am asking you
# To try to make amends before you die
# Oh, oh, oh
# Who knows how long we've got?
# Oh, oh
# As long as I am breathing, I
# Know it's not too late to love
# Ah, ah, ah
# Mm, mm-mm, mm, mm-mm, mm. #
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# In the moonlight
# I drift in between
# Caught up in the feeling
# Of my calypso dream
# Crickets are singing
# I strum my guitar
# Hazy colours
# Shooting down from afar
# Oh, I find myself high like a cloud
# Ooh, dancing Dancing, dancing
# Dimensions
# Oh, yeah
# Dancing Dancing, dancing
# Dimensions
# I'm so caught up
# In this emotion
# Ooh, baby, baby
# It's a magical potion
# Crickets are singing
# I strum my guitar
# A rainbow of colours
# Shooting down from the stars
# Oh, I find myself high like a cloud
# Oh, oh, oh, dancing
# Dancing dimensions
# Yeah
# Ooh, dancing Dancing, dancing
# Dimensions
# Dancing Dancing, dancing
# Dimensions
# Ooh, ooh
# Dancing, dancing, dancing
# Dancing dimensions
# I feel like dancing, yeah Dancing, dancing
# In this dimension Dimensions
# Dancing dimensions
# Yeah
# Dance
# Dancing dimension
# Yeah, feels like dancing to me, yeah
# Ooh, dancing dimensions, yeah
# Dancing Dancing, dancing
# Dimensions
# Dancing Dancing, dancing
# Dancing dimensions
# Yeah
# Dancing Dancing, dancing
# Dimensions
# I'm dancing, yeah
# In this dimension
# Ah, that's all. #
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Thank you.
Ural Thomas and the Pain!
CHEERING
Next, we thrilled to her music there.
You're hearing her everywhere.
She is absolutely a wonder, and I'm delighted to welcome...
..Self Esteem!
Aw!
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I'm really pleased for you cos you came on our lockdown shows...
Mm-hm. ..and I saw on Instagram that you said,
"It's all gone bananas - no offence to bananas."
Nicely put.
But also I want to know how the banana situation
has manifested itself. What do you mean, my career going bananas?
Yes.
I don't know, you know!
When I...
I've been doing it a long time,
and I'd made my peace with never getting very big, I suppose,
or whatever, and then, yeah, as soon as you decide that,
it all starts happening, doesn't it?
Do you think that's the case, as soon as you think,
"Well, I couldn't care less," that's when it all starts to happen?
Yeah. And if you worry, then nothing happens.
I'm going to be like, "I don't care about being really rich,"
and, you know, then see what happens.
Now, your second album, Prioritise Pleasure,
is a huge success.
You're selling out the theatres all over the country.
And I must bring these up as well, because on your Instagram
you did a little chart here, and I thought it was so good.
A little chart here of self-fulfilment.
Well, it's a hierarchy of needs, isn't it? Yeah.
So I thought, when I set out to do a solo thing,
I desperately wanted to be on Jools Holland, so thank you. Yes.
And I wanted to be nominated for a Brit. Yes.
One I didn't know I needed was being on Celebrity Gogglebox
with Bimini, but that trail-blazed to the top.
But why was I at the bottom of the pyramid?
Why wasn't I up here...? No, no! Why was I below Celebrity Gogglebox?
Well, no, this was a backdated pyramid, to be fair.
Oh, all right.
Also your fashion is fantastic.
I don't know what you're talking about.
No, well, like, can we have a quick...?
No, no, it is. One of the best things I ever saw -
and we can maybe have a quick look at it -
is your Boots Advantage Card dress.
Yeah. I peaked too early. That was me best idea.
Well... If I'd waited, I could've worn it tonight, but...
No, I just thought that was marvellous.
And also using the... Ah, what's the shopping centre in Sheffield?
I love that you did that!
I did my Christmas shopping... The centre, what's it called?
Meadowhall Sheffield. Meadowhall, Sheffield,
which I did do my Christmas shopping in once.
Yes. What? Why? We were on tour, we were playing...
Well, I ask myself that.
Anyway, to this day... I bet you were like, "There's nothing..."
No, it was just too much. Overwhelmed. Yeah, Mecca.
But you've got the two domes of that and you've used it
in a fantastic...scale models.
Yeah, scale models! They were very accurate. I just...
I'm often referencing Madonna, obviously.
I've had this idea for years that I'd do a cone bra
but it's Meadowhall, Sheffield, domes.
LAUGHTER
And also did you design... They look fantastic, the band.
I know, but it's a bit awkward cos 1975 are doing the same vibe.
And then I've gone back to front... A bloody nightmare!
There we go. Reverse. We all planned this. It's fine, yeah.
Exactly. Beautiful. Thanks for the tip.
Just before we have a rummage through our, um...
No, let's have a rummage through. Why not? Let's do.
Where are you rummaging?
Rummaging through my archives, please. Oh, yes. Yes, I'd love to.
Get your hands in there, see what comes out,
and what have you got?
I just want to see my man Richard Hawley.
He's a marvel, isn't he? He's... You know what?
A big part of going solo and what I wanted to do,
I saw him walking through Sheffield Centre, looking amazing,
and I thought, "That's what I want."
Just, like, he makes his music, he's true to himself.
He doesn't really...
..answer to people, and it speaks for itself.
And he's got a massive career.
So here he is. I think this is his first appearance.
So let's have a look.
# But you're still in my mind
# You're still in my mind
# And here's where the sound
# Of my tears hits the ground
# Just like the rain
# When we danced along the shore
# My darkness shaded all we saw
# I was unkind
# I feel so strange, I feel so weak
# I've walked a world of empty streets
# In search alone
I've searched alone
# But you're still in my mind
# You're still in my mind
# And here's where the sound
# Of my tears hits the ground
# Just like the rain
# But you're still in my mind
# You're still in my mind
# And here's where the sound
# Of my tears hits the ground
# Just like the rain
# Just like the rain. #
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And you've recently joined Richard to lend your support
to saving the Leadmill, which is a fantastic club.
I used to play there when Richard was a DJ there. Wow.
One of the most iconic clubs in the whole of Britain,
and certainly the most iconic club in Sheffield.
It just seems mad to me that,
like, Sheffield struggles for venue sizes anyway.
Like, I just feel that if you decimate
these mid sort of sized venues,
all you get is very successful musicians
and really, really sort of, like, small bar kind of musicians,
and you lose so much, and only the privileged make it.
Now, you've been called "a dazzling icon of female empowerment".
Oh, I'll take that! Yes.
Would you take that?
Yeah, it sounds good, that, doesn't it?
It does sound good, yeah.
And I... I do agree. You concur?
Good!
LAUGHTER
I do, I do. OK. Next question.
I read that your greatest joy is making music.
What's your second greatest joy?
Right now, it's getting through me wash basket.
I've had such a busy summer, and I get home and I'm like,
"I'd just love to have a good couple of weeks of this."
It's that Boots Advantage Card dress, needs a...
Yeah, that needs steaming. I love...
Yeah, it's not a very cool answer.
But it's true. I love just pottering about in the house!
Well, it's what everybody loves.
I might've ruined my career, though. No.
People want me to be an edgy female empowerment beacon,
and I'm like, "I just want to do the washing and ironing."
LAUGHTER
Yeah, but everybody wants to be at home and potter about, don't they?
I love it, yeah. It's the dream. It's what I'm craving now, but
I tell you what, give me a couple of weeks at it and I'll be, like,
gagging to get back on the road. Yeah, back into the showbiz pyramid.
Yeah. The tour dog will rise once more. Yeah, exactly.
It's been fantastic having you here this evening. Thank you.
Thank you, Rebecca. We thank Self Esteem!
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Thank you.
Give my love to Sheffield. I will, I will.
Now, we welcome back... I think you stay there and I go this way.
Or you can come... Why don't you come with me?
I'll come with you. Come on. Why not? What harm could it do?
Now we welcome back a band that boasts four number one albums
and has returned from recent festival triumphs.
It is The 1975! Yay!
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# Heartbeat
# Is comin' in so strong
# Oh, if you don't stop
# I'm gonna need a second one
# Oh, there's somethin' I've been meaning to
# Say to you, baby Hold that thought
# Yeah, there's somethin' I've been meaning to
# Say to you, baby, but I just can't do it
# What a call, moving in
# I feel like I can loosen my lips Come on so strong
# I can summarise it for you Ah-ah
# It's simple and it goes like this
# I'm in love with you, I-I-I-I
# In love with you, I-I-I-I
# I'm in love with you, I-I-I-I
# You! I-I-I-I... # Yeah, you sing it.
# I'm in love with you, I-I-I-I
# In love with you, I-I-I-I-I
# She's got a broadsheet
# Reading down the list of the going wrongs
# Yeah, yeah, yeah
# I'm gettin' no sleep
# Tossin' and turnin' all night long
# That's right
# Oh, there's somewhere I've Somewhere I've
# Been meaning to Meaning to
# Take the conversation Hold that thought
# Yeah, there's somewhere I've Somewhere I've
# Been meaning to Meaning to
# Take the conversation, but I just can't do it
# You show me your You show me your
# Black girl thing Black girl thing
# Pretending that I know what it is I wasn't listening
# I apologise, and you meet my eyes
# Yeah, it's simple and it goes like this
# I'm in love with you I-I-I-I
# In love with you I-I-I-I
# Yeah, in love with you I-I-I-I
# I'm in love with you I-I-I-I
# In love with you I-I-I-I
# Yeah, I'm in love with you I-I-I-I-I
# Well, I got it, I found it
# I've just gotta keep it
# "Don't fuck it, you muppet"
# It's not that deep
# But I've been counting my blessings
# Thinking this through
# It's like, one, two, yeah
# I'm in love with you I-I-I-I
# In love with you I-I-I-I
# You, you, you
# I'm in love with you I-I-I-I
# In love with you I-I-I-I
# Yeah, I'm in love with you I-I-I-I-I. #
Yeeha!
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
Thank you, The 1975.
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
How wonderful to have them here.
And thank you to all of my wonderful guests this evening.
I hope you'll come and join us next week.
It's now time to finish the show. We have little time left,
so please big it up, in the biggest possible way,
and welcome back, at this end, Self Esteem!
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
# Listen to my body
# We haven't been in touch much lately
# Never have I calmly
# Dealt with anything they ever gave me
# You should always know
# That I cannot let go of
# Anything that's wronged me
# Anything that made me secondary
# So many of them clearly
# Liked the idea of me in theory
# I shrunk, moved and changed
# And still you felt the same
# So I'm breathing in
# One, two, three
# Prioritise pleasuring me
# No need to wait for bended knee
# I'm free
# So I'm breathing in
# One, two, three
# Prioritise pleasuring me
# No need to wait for bended knee
# I'm free, I'm free
# I got a feeling
# The time is now to start accepting
# Everything I messed up
# All the fucked up shit I did thinking it would make me happy
# Very little of it did, really
# And it happened lately
# As I willed a sunset to go quickly
# Always thinking, "What next?"
# Never have I just enjoyed the moment happening right now
# I've never known how
# So I'm breathing in
# One, two, three
# Prioritise pleasuring me
# No need to wait for bended knee
# I'm free
# So I'm breathing in
# One, two, three
# Prioritise pleasuring me
# No need to wait for bended knee
# I'm free, I'm free
# Shave my pussy That's just for me
# Unfollow him That's just for me
# Keeping busy That's just for me
# And sleeping in That's just for me
# Fuck where I've been That's just for me
# My daydreaming That's just for me
# I'm sexting That's just for me
# My freedom That's just for me
# So I'm breathing in
# One, two, three
# Prioritise pleasuring me
# No need to wait for bended knee
# I'm free, I'm free
# So I'm breathing in
# One, two, three
# Prioritise pleasuring me
# No need to wait for bended knee
# I'm free, I'm free
# Ah, ah-ah-ah
# I thought that you'd be kind to me
# I thought that you'd be kind to me. #
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