okay in this video I'm going to show you
how I have found two restric or Ramesh
the frames that I have for screen
printing
there are commercial units available of
course you know pneumatics and so forth
the ones I looked at were close to
$3,000 I'm not doing this as a business
I'm not doing this every day all day I'm
not getting paid to do it
I'm doing this as a matter of
convenience for me Mendelson amount of
particularly large space here I don't
want to have dozens of screens you know
covering all the different meshes so
that I have at least four or six or
eight of everyone's screen size or mesh
count not to mention you know extras for
different jobs and so forth recently I
found myself I needed just one extra 156
I had empty frames and I did I do that
inherited as it were for a month from my
mother-in-law and didn't have a way to
stretch the screen on add the mesh I
bought years ago because I was going to
do it someday Wilma
yesterday was the day and I got to
figure it out today I'm going to
document that for you so what I have
here is I have this table is actually my
exposure table that's why it has the
glass top on here I put my screen
hardwork and so forth up here and I use
a kneeling pad as a pressure pad that
put a bunch of weight across it and then
I have my exposure lights that go
underneath I actually have built
actually pretty cool some LED panels
here to expose these are UV LEDs to
expose the screens in width so it's my
exposure table and then I put some
counter mats over there like you might
find in a parts store and then it
doubles as my mounting table for my
homemade one on one color press one on
one dirt press which I said is a pretty
good job made those circuit boards for
the lights it also made this circuit
board here so it's it's homemade niche
but it still it works very well but
anyway now it's going to do triple duty
it's going to sort of work as my screen
stretching station so what I have here
is I have some 80/20
distribution okay and what this is is
this is their 15 series product and you
can find them by going to WWE at
8020.net I really like this stuff it is
this is incredibly rigid it's remarkably
heavy for what it is even though this is
their light series nom which means it
has a little bit thinner webbing in here
and also has this is hollow here on
these four corners but it's not cheap
this is this product right here is 45
cents per foot the last time I checked
it sorry 45 cents per inch per inch the
last time I checked it so but it works
very well it's very rigid and what's
going to happen here what I found worked
very well I said yesterday I went around
this is all I got figured out is I got a
number of things okay I tried three inch
wood dowel which fits in there very
nicely wouldn't bite against the mesh
and the aluminum so then I coated it two
wraps of my blue tape this is the super
expensive fancy pants blue haw clothes
brand tape that I use for taping off
screens and stuff it's inexpensive it's
easy to come by it works very well but
no no worky it would get up close to
tension and it would just slip so that
didn't work the next thing that correct
was just for grins I went down and I got
some quarter inch I forget exactly what
this material is ones vinyl the other
one is I don't know what this is anyway
doesn't matter
ah it's kind of tough and slick but I
was there I thought I'd buy it and try
it no worky then I also got some vinyl
tubing and this stuff is grippier softer
I thought ah that's going to get it no
worky it still would continue to twist
in here allowing the mesh to go through
and out this will work however if you
once it's in here with a mesh wrapped
around it if then you'll shove a 1/16
inch dowel rod or watchtower 1/8 inch
dowel rod along the side of it over here
but pushing that dowel rod in on the
second of the two parallel pieces is a
booger it's already tight you try to
shove that in it's tight it will work it
will hold
it's not ideal what did work very well
is this is I believe half inch quarter
round and this came from Lowe's so I
believe this dimension is 1/2 inch
that's that's half inch course they call
it a half inch Tavish radius obviously
quarter round and this works very well
it just fits in here it's it's not snug
really but by the time you put the mesh
on there it is kind of snug so that
worked for me yesterday and that's we'll
be doing today ah ah the next thing is
this is really really cool the whichever
one of these knobs you'll notice I have
two of these black knobs over here
unfortunately they only had three blows
so I put to one side on the inside
this is just a clamping knob really
clamping is a technical term meaning
that it can pass through the backside
they had other knobs down there which
were not labeled as clamping knobs
doesn't matter who cares just watch this
some of them don't have a hole all the
way through so like this where the bolts
is way too long it would actually bought
them out they had brass inserts and they
would bottom out in case runs through
drainie what's cool about this 80/20
product here is and I'm sure that this
was by careful design I'm not being
sarcastic this is a 5/16 inch carriage
head bolt and if you'll notice it just
beautifully fits down in there so what
I'm doing is I have these flat metal
pieces now these are these started out
in life is 12 inch long pieces and I cut
them in half with a reciprocating saw
they are found in the gate and hinge
area gate hinge area brackets similar
brackets and so forth at Lowe's I'm sure
Home Depot and other hardware stores
should have them I believe it's so it's
the brand
beats that got me it's not hearts who
cares
maybe Stanley maybe not it's one 1/8
inch wide it's approximately it's
getting close to 1/4 inch thick it's
probably every bit of 3/16 it may be
some millimeter I don't know but any
case it's it's quite thick and then what
I've done is I've bolted it down below
here I just ran the 5/16 inch carriage
head bolts in here and snug them up here
and that's set my whole point down here
drill the hole pinched it and what's
going to happen is now when the screen
tries to pull this metal this way it's
going to pull this tab of metal over
like this over this way until it hits
the top piece here and it's at leverage
it just it works very well it doesn't go
anywhere the nice thing is that even
though these fairly snug you'll see I
can lower it down so I'm not moving left
with it's nasty screen grabbing love
handle grabbing whatever that's going to
bite a hold of things and tear it up I
can just pivot this down so when I'm
done I have my table nice and smooth but
yeah and that's going to give us our
pull basically we're just going to
tighten these these bolts up so we'll
get back to that
so that was that was the first challenge
was how was I going to get a hold of the
mesh and the 820 extrusion along with a
half inch quarter round saw that it
works very well next the next challenge
is how to glue this stuff down though
your screen printing supply source
online the ones that I looked at it's
going to cost you about $40 for 16
ounces of screen mesh adhesive reading
around online I find that this general
consensus is that the screen mesh
adhesive is nothing but science a no
acrylic glue that would be super glue so
I went and found some different super
glues to try yesterday I use this this
is a tight bond product if you've done
any what woodworking you're probably
familiar with tight bond wood glues well
this is there CA or cyanoacrylate wood
glue product now this is a medium body
and they have their thin medium and
thick and then gel and you presumably
are supposed to use the thicker stuff
for the larger mesh counts I'm doing a
160 mesh here I thought I would try the
medium it seemed to work very very well
thin probably would have been a little
too thin I did have some troubles with
dribbles running down the side of my
frame which is why this is now taped off
and blue tape to keep you from getting
some of that glue onto my piece of on my
tabletop here because I don't like peel
it off like I did yesterday cuz it
sucked
now if you've ever played with super
glue I also have this brand here Bob
Smith none of this was particularly
inexpensive and it was certainly not
less expensive than buying each one of
these cost me about ten dollars okay so
for about thirty dollars for the product
here I have six ounces of glue for forty
dollars I've had gotten 16 ounces so in
the future I'm probably going to go and
buy the commercial stuff sold by the
screen printing supply has is now the
reason why I did this was one for
testing and two that I can get this
quite easily in small quantities because
apparently cyano acrylic will go bad
period and I've seen that firsthand the
superglue tubes going bad although
keeping the freezers supposed to keep
that from happening now I've only tried
that recently I've got a tube sitting in
the
they had it in the fridge for a week and
was able to use it again without any
troubles no Krusty's on the on the lid
so freezing it may be a good solution
but I'm not going to promise that I
haven't tried it long enough so buying
in small quantities even if it's more
expensive per unit is good if you're not
doing a whole lot because it doesn't do
any good to get it for 50 cents a unit
instead of $2 a unit if 3/4 of the units
get thrown in the trash because it goes
bad ok anyway so I've got these three
different glues I want to tell you
something about this real quick now if
you everything super glue and you glue
your fingers get like Italy my cooking
Waverley fingers okay and it'll
eventually come off this does not don't
try that I accidentally got some on
there and I thought okay I'll just
monkey around a little bit and stuck my
fingers but good and had to go find the
acetone and it took me about five
minutes of soaking and acetone and going
back and forth like this before going to
fingers free so um this stuff is not
that crappy superglue stuff you buy at
the store
this is serious though I also got the
accelerator and this worked very well
neat just sprayed on it I mean boom that
quick it was set I put my hands on it
was the glue was set uh the problem is
the activator is only filled about the
top where it says instant bond right
there this is not a full jug of spray
when you get it I suspect that maybe
some of the the contents of leaked out
that's 2 ounces that's 2 ounces this
should have been full but it was not um
but this is also about eleven dollars so
I have read that this is uh alcohol and
art that you can use alcohol and
something to make it alkaline or basic
so I'm thinking that a little alcohol
mixed in with some baking soda or mixed
in with maybe some pH up for pools pool
chemicals which I also use in
electrolysis for cleaning
rust off of steel goods something like
that might work at eleven dollars a job
you can damn sure bet I'm gonna try to
homebrew something okay but this does
work it worked very well the last thing
I wanted today and this is what I'm
going to write
last thing that I bought was this I got
from Lowe's it says it has sound acrylic
esters I might even try to get that
right doesn't matter it has that this
may be the same thing it says no
accelerator is needed I'm going to try
it anyway it says it cures in 30 minutes
that's great
the nice thing about this is that for
ten dollars I can buy four ounces now if
you did the math there you realize that
four times four is 16 4 times 10 is 40
so it's the same per ounce cost if you
buy it in 4 ounces not this this is more
expensive if you buy the 4 ounce
container it's the same per ounce cost
as buying it from at least where I was
going to buy it the commercial screen
adhesive that means that I can buy in
small quantities I can buy it locally
and have it right now yes I'm going to
pay sales tax but I'm not paying
shipping so today we're going to try
this and see if this works right of
course I wish I had more of these knobs
at 3:02 on here I'm gonna have to wait
until they reach three stock and then
I'll get these on because it's just this
suck having it having to use your nut
sorry okay anyway so what's gonna happen
is
my screen up here give it would ready
don't say it don't say okay here's one
of the screens that I have I said I sort
of inherited these to my mother-in-law
she has given my wife and myself all of
her screen printing stuff to use any
case I'm going to rescreen this so
remesh this I've had much for years I'm
excited to finally get a chance to use
this stuff all I did was I went along
and used some 120 grit sandpaper with
sanding block and this sanded it a
little bit and then I used some acetone
wipe this down the next time I get ready
to clean one of these I'm going to try
some lacquer thinner
I think lacquer thinner might have been
more aggressive than a stone as Tom's
cool and everything but it not only does
it evaporate you know incredibly quickly
not the lacquer thinner doesn't but it
doesn't seem like it's got that that
lacquer thinner does but anyway I've got
it fairly clean so this is going to go
up on top here now these are
approximately and I swear these are
metric dimensions okay this is not
exactly 1.38
this is going to be about one point
three eighths but not quite the 80/20
aluminum extrusion remember I said this
was the 15 series there's a reason why
there's a 1 and a 5 in there it's 1.5
inches okay they have a 30 series can
anybody guess what how many inches that
is in each direction so ladies up here
but oops this is below this level so
here's what we do to solve that super
possible sticks
tongue depressors craft sticks whatever
you want to call them okay there you go
I'm putting four diagonally on each
corner
and that gets me a little bit above the
air of the level of 80/20 extrude my
reason why I do that is that means that
the strength the screen mesh is being
pulled down over the French which is
actually really awesome now due to the
magic of the none idiot or disorganize
this before that my little son came
through and helped me I missing that
super mega pop still stick so grab
Xtreme okay I said it's going to raise
that up so the mesh is pulled down over
the frame gets a skip contact it's going
to scoop that out I use the glass to
kind of Center out where the screen is
and then take these just back this
outfit already do this now you'll notice
that I'm the commercial immunise Lisa
Moser I've seen each one of these bars
offsets the next one so it wasn't making
kind of like this each one overhangs the
next one okay so it means you can take
this and make little bitty screens or
really big screens all without having to
change your bar lengths okay so this one
is going to overlays going to cover the
tail end of this one okay so let's go
and run this up frame
yeah this one overhangs this in I said
it's very unfortunately don't have
knowledge everywhere we show knobs there
were slowest Christmas is going to make
the video a little painful to watch it
so there we go there's up against that
and this one overhangs this one there
okay so that's pretty much it
we just need to measure throw on there
and we should be in good shape
now one of the things you can do it's my
mesh ah I think that plenty of it what
I'm going to do here is actually I think
it's pretty cool and if you don't
believe me just ask me and I'll tell you
this is pretty cool I'm going to lay
this out here now this one I'm going to
turn this around this is still a factory
edge up here and I'm assuming that
whenever they package this for me from
whichever place I don't remember about
three years ago that it was probably cut
pretty square so what I'm going to do is
I'm going to make it square to frame
because what I don't have happens I
don't want the mesh running across like
this is it really that big a friggin
deal probably not but I'm gonna try to
make it as much where the runs this way
or parallel to this the runs this way or
parallel over here again I don't really
matter so that's how I'm choosing to do
it and it's my ball I set the rules now
now that I've got that drop into place
I have Puffy's onto various links so
that is one there's one of the long one
and these are my short ones here I'll
set those off sighs I'm gonna get it
drink it
say that bad
now if the screen is dropped in there
and really all we're doing here is we're
just going to get a pocket started here
and then pulls that it's not a huge big
deal but it should say we have this was
50 inches when I had a whole other piece
hanging over there trying to pull out
that was kind of a pill there we go pull
this out and just kind of pull it a sock
on just work it work it I see you baby
shitting it ass I see you baby okay
there we go
all right just push it on in there it
does get tight and I'm not entirely sure
why that is for whatever doesn't matter
the dowel rod you know the third quarter
around may not be perfectly straight
there we go shove it back up against the
frame make sure they're touching okay
and I will go in through this other one
and again go to sit this one overhangs
here so that means that one's going to
overhang over there and do the kitty get
out of the way and I'm going to do this
to kind of get that pocket started what
I also did which may or may not show it
very well is you'll notice that rounded
that off of sandpaper okay
I didn't just cut it and try to shove it
through there it's round it off with 180
grit sandpaper I probably could have
gone to 220 and then up to maybe 320 or
so but I didn't hey I'm gonna hold the
fabric here on either side trying to
keep that pocket let out see how that
pop right out it's not gonna be a huge
deal show that
and notice this one's going smooth
divorce excellent for me actually you
guys aren't anything you're watching all
right there we go
there's the sides and make sure that
there are extrusions up against that
frame and what I'm going to do this is
what I screw this up yes sure this is
Fionna sir decision Oh what I'm going to
do is I'm gonna cut strangle you here in
the corners now this is important I hope
it'll show up on a video here we're
going to cut our strangly into the
corners here in line with our overhang
that what that that's going to do is
that's going to AH so here a minute when
I get ready to cut this but I'm going to
cut this before I show that B sinks you
may already see that it's bunching up
well if you cut diagonally you don't
have a sock leading into this channel
right here now use my other stuff that
that is not good so let's take this and
I probably take a razor blade up close
to it okay there right there that will
be plenty good yeah I'm like I said
we're trying to leave ourselves a sock
or we can pull on to our rod there say
same thing here or in line with that
overhang
we're now going all with the point of
the frame we don't need it that far up
now it goes on cutting a little bit this
way it's the whole materials kick that
way I'm going to cut it over that way so
when I cut this free I get that strong
belief that looking for see it kind of
popped up and maybe didn't show up it
does max getting out on your own okay so
do the same thing
drop that 5/16 inch downrod fits nicely
into that eight tiny groove with the
fabric to shut it down in there and it
makes a liar out of every time there we
go we've got that get ready with our or
around here
again kind of get soft on ya there's
probably something near I'm gonna pull
that tight first there's probably
something neither for holding the stuff
together in here this work for me now
this is only something I'm going to do
occasionally when I need to you know I'm
going to do on the way on that oh whoa I
feel like rematching screens today I'm
gonna do this all three no but when you
consider them a rematch this thing for
about six dollars including mission
adhesive versus $25 plus shipping to get
another one
the heat mission and inexpensive and
plenty of it that this becomes kind of
interesting because it's something you
might want to consider doing why
sometimes sometimes it the border I
probably sand those down there
okay and the last one
right night room look not to put that in
sure it's up against the frame in Pocket
started sock
okay there we go
that was it books um intermission I'm
going to pull the memory card on my
camera dump that and pick up and we're
going to stretch this
okay so after those important messages
were right back ah we're about to
stretch this puppy let me tell you a
couple details so that I feel like it
kind of left out there
ah the extrusion I cut I had to slipped
over for another project if he orders
directly from 80/20 you can tell them
down to that I think even the eighth of
an inch or sixteenth of an inch how long
you want the stuff I had some litter
from a CNC plasma table that I built so
I had a couple of decent sized sticks ah
I cut this one this is 20 inches by 24
screen more or less like says swartz
metric anyway I cut it to 21 that I cut
to 25 make sure I can overhanging screen
and then what I did was i centered the
pole points up basically one quarter of
the length one quarter another quarter
so half the length and then a quarter so
I've got an even pull across there and
this is of a sword rigid it doesn't bend
or flex I mean not not in a pre Nunda no
not even a noticeable amount I mean I
can't see it when I've got these things
and attention so I think that pretty
much covers hopefully from what you've
seen here if you're handy enough to use
the tools to do so to build one you
should be able to you should be able to
anyway you should be able to build it I
just realized I didn't sync the audio
after I stopped to start the camera oops
we'll figure it out figure that out
later clean that up post-production
alright so what we're going to do is
sort of a hard one first don't have
enough so here don't say this guy gives
us my office's sucks
ah and I don't saw deep enough to get
there so I'm going to use my present
branch you guys I don't plan ahead well
enough for remember to bring the
half-inch gearwrench up here okay and
I'm going to pull it over over already
other attention that's nice very grams
there that will side side on right there
front and back side side okay black see
how it's easier than almost okay very
nice how I do not have a tension meter I
don't have one below it but it does have
one side bar oh I asked my screen print
suppliers they're not that far away from
me he's over there enabled er and online
whatever and I say you have on the note
so probably they send screens up to out
to be remesh there we go good attention
there so what I'm going to be doing to
determine if these are properly
tensioned and what I would do is on hold
trying to pull equally from side to side
so I over strain the corners and such
what I'm going to do oh nice that is
really nice
I'm going to use the tap tap test
compared to a factory stretched string
not building a mesh frames for NASA here
okay so doesn't have to be perfect it
just has to be really damn good very
nice instead of the knobs this would be
a lot of fast that's for sure
unfortunately it's rod over here is
hanging in so
he's hitting her out of the wrench
Oh
doggone it as nice
yes that is feeling very very awesome
now the first one did yesterday those it
felt like it lost some tension after I
blew cut it free ice probably is the
frame to be able to flex to a circus I
know but I can't believe it stretches
that are extending moves that little
tired what I had yesterday that feels
pretty good
excellent all right that's good enough
so I'm going to fold these little ears
back up they keep giving me crap like
they are but I think scissors cut those
off we're about to glue this and find
out that other that other glue works
where some happens always some mesh here
and we'll both learn something thank you
get rid of that so it's off my glue area
that's fine that's not really my way
that's not in my way through our gloom
and for a blue spreader I'm using this
old I don't know some kind of spatula
thing it was my mom's that I I don't
know it's a summer another okay and that
will be a way calling our way out
okay there we've got that audio sync
this time okay uh every our we're about
to put the adhesive down and try this
out I know this stuff says it doesn't
need accelerate I'm going to use the
accelerator because I'm just crazy like
that
first thing I would say is this stuff is
a lot more gelatinous and stuff I used
yesterday in a tight barn
product it's a lot thicker body we
should point out bad things I did have
to fight yesterday with a tight line
product that's spreading out nicely with
type-1 products dripping off my sprayer
tool and on 200 a psionically
god bless I should have never open a
window geez anyway the liquid I said
should not to worry about it spread it
down and dripping down oh yeah that was
awful it drip down
excellent spreading out nicely not sure
I don't actually like the thick body
butter actually since that I am having
to spray in but I don't think that's
such a bad deal okay I definitely some
experience that comes into play of doing
this spreading this
nice not doing this yourself is that
you're not beholding that some service
do it for you means you do it in-house
and I'm sure the experience this is
going to go faster and faster so there
yeah you're not going to wake up nine
o'clock in the morning or at least show
up in shop nine o'clock in morning it is
something to mesh you know a dozen
strings for the day's production but if
you're in pinch you'll get some good
stuff okay I'm getting out into the
screen which is not her comic print
there any but still why
and I'm not sure how important it is get
this coated all the way across that to
like it is on professional maintenance
those guys have a boss waiting down
there next you know about appearances
and so forth and it may not be necessary
to hold this mesh so probably not kill
yourself over every little stinking
detail okay and last run I'm putting a
little bit across there a nice puddle
and then doing streak and Poe gets in my
initial spread and this is going to feed
it as I bring it along okay they're all
matted fumes jeez yeah you're going to
want to do this with their ventilation
of what I did all this was not well
thought out
I'm pretty happy with that right there
back a little bit more here they're all
yeah maybe that's super sexy okay well
there we go now let's see if the
accelerator works I'm going to wait for
30 minutes but it's up to setup first
I'm going to try to wipe the liquid glue
off of this now you know what's
interesting as they say that this stuff
won't set up without moisture or if it's
an acidic environment so I wonder if you
could maybe add some acidic moisture
like some citric acid in water to wipe
this down to keep it from setting up
um as you're trying to wipe it down and
the reason why I say acidic acid is our
sorry citric acid acidic acid cheese
anyway citric acid we're going to say
citric acid is that I happen to keep
some of that stuff in stock ready for me
delivery in the form of let me shine
detergent booster which does an
excellent job in tumbling media for
cleaning brass for reloading crazy shiny
brass it's an acid but anyway that might
work for paying these tools up right now
we want to find out is it that glue is
going to set up with the accelerator
like an idiot I'll just test this and go
yes that's still wet
haha to get out and they say like this
is a alcohol you can do some reading
online by using alcohol the speed dry
sign on the collates alcohol might be a
great idea because it's got the moisture
that cyanoacrylate needs to cure but
it's not 100 centimeters have the
alcohol which will evaporate very
quickly oh yeah that goes quick all
right
but damn clue that it's not the glues no
way no Widow Memorial that's Spanish for
that's not wet anymore
um that is super badass oh hell yeah
I love it that is just awesome it feels
hard yes okay well there you go you saw
me sprint you saw me touch it boiling it
was wet
so I spray it now it's not wet and the
real test there you go folks that's
stuck there how awesome is that
that is an please go
girls thank God that I do not have any
dribble so I didn't get goop down on my
table top so there you go that worked I
love it easily purchased at Lowe's same
cost per ounce in the for if you buy the
4 ounce containers is buying the
commercially produced or commercially
sold stuff for screen stretching or they
still work you know same cost and it
works so whatever and then the instant
bond activator but at 11 dollars $10 a
change this was this was not the way to
go
try will try some rubbing alcohol and
maybe some pH up there you go folks
OPA this helps have it have a great day
and happy screen-printing later