走! 走! Move! Move!
举手! 把手举起来! Hands! Let me see your hands!
- 上帝啊 那是赫尔曼·戈林 - 谁? - Jesus Christ, that's Hermann Göring. - Who?
希特勒的副手 带着恐惧和等待 Hitler's second- in- command. With fear and waiting.
他说了什么? What did he say?
他让我们去拿他的行李 He asked us to get his luggage.
大法官杰克逊吗? Justice Jackson?
那得看你三点敲我的门是否有充分的理由 That depends on if you have a good reason to be banging on my door at three o'clock.
他们活捉了赫尔曼·戈林 They captured Hermann Göring alive.
- 在哪里? - 奥地利 - Where? - Austria.
他们要怎么处置他? What are they going to do with him?
这才是真正的问题 不是吗? 我能进来吗? Well, that's the real question, isn't it? Can I come in?
- 没有 - 但是在下雨 - No. - But it's raining.
我看得出来 他们要枪毙他吗? I can see that. Are they going to shoot him?
据我所知没有 Not that I know of.
好吧 很长一段时间他们都准备枪毙他 Well, for a long time they were going to shoot him.
是的 先生 Yes, sir.
丘吉尔和罗斯福亲自签署了命令 Churchill and Roosevelt signed the order themselves.
我命令你反对 On order that you oppose.
我是最高法院的法官 我不赞成不经审判就处死人 I'm a Supreme Court Justice. I tend to frown on executing men without a trial.
这就是我来这里的目的 That's what I'm here to talk about.
这是不可能的 It can't be done.
- 你一直这么说 - 因为这是不可能的 - You keep saying that. - Because it can't be done.
给我一个不去的理由 Give me one good reason why not.
没有进行审判的法律先例 There's no legal precedent for a trial.
没有国际法作为指控的依据 There's no international law to base the charges on.
从来没有人在一个国家的管辖范围之外审判过战犯 No one has ever tried war criminals outside of one nation's jurisdiction
因为国际法的整个概念是 because the whole concept of international law is
一个国家不能告诉另一个国家的公民如何行事 that one country can't tell another country's citizens how to conduct themselves.
埃尔希 Elsie.
在德国法庭审判这些人将是另一回事 Trying these men in a German court would be different.
但你说的是尝试 But what you're talking about is trying them
在某种根本不存在的法律边缘 in some sort of legal limbo that doesn't exist
使用尚未成文的判例法 using case law that hasn't been written yet.
万一你没跟上进度 And on the off chance that you're not keeping
这是四个很好的理由 track, that's about four good reasons why not.
我给你拿杯喝的 I'm getting you a drink.
我不想喝酒 I don't want a drink.
然后我再给自己买一个 给你买一个做秀 Then I'm getting me another and getting you one for show.
你审判谁? Who do you put on trial?
德军指挥官? 士兵? The German commanders? Enlisted men?
那些执行种族法规的法官呢? What about the judges who enforce the racial codes?
显然我们得把它算出来 Obviously we'd have to work that out.
一旦你决定要审判谁 你会指控他们什么? And once you decide who to put on trial, what do you charge them with?
对世界发动侵略战争的阴谋 Conspiracy to wage aggressive war on the world.
你想让美国政府以此作为起诉理由吗? And you want the United States to argue that as prosecution?
我是 I do.
对德国? 一个从未攻击过我们的国家? Against Germany? A country that never attacked us?
就说这是可以做到的 Say just for a second it could be done.
- 罗伯特 - 你不想知道我会怎么做吗? - Robert. - Don't you want to know how I'd do it?
这必须是一个完全的国际努力 It would have to be a completely international effort.
所有盟国都必须参与 All of the allies would have to participate.
美国 英国 法国 俄罗斯 没有俄国人你做不到 The US, Britain, France, Russia. You can't do it without the Russians.
四位国际法官 Four international judges.
你说的是法庭 You're talking about a tribunal.
完全正确 世界需要知道这些人做了什么 Exactly. The world needs to know what these men did.
这是后勤方面的噩梦 It's a logistical nightmare.
我知道 I know.
但这是必须要做的 But it has to be done.
选一张牌 Pick a card.
我不这么想 I don't think so.
让我挑一个 Ask me to pick one.
选一张牌 Pick a card.
现在请我记住它 并把它放回甲板上 Now ask me to please remember it and put it back in the deck.
请记住 把它放回甲板上 Please remember it and put it back in the deck.
现在洗牌 Now shuffle.
现在怎么办呢? Now what?
我的牌是黑桃3 My card was a three of spades.
- 哦 这算不上把戏 - 把上面那个翻过来 - Oh, that's hardly a trick. - Turn over the top one.
你是谁? Who are you?
我是心理医生 I'm a psychiatrist.
你为什么要去蒙多夫? Oh, and why are you going to Mondorf?
我希望我知道 I wish I knew.
他们现在派精神科医生执行秘密任务 They send psychiatrists on secret missions now.
我很确定我是第一个 I'm pretty sure I'm the first.
你是怎么做到的? How did you do that?
用牌? With the cards?
我什么都没做 I didn't do anything.
你真是个很棒的魔术师 You're a really good magician.
凯利医生 Dr. Kelly.
豪伊·崔斯特中士为您服务 Sgt. Howie Triest at your service.
我要带你去司令官办公室 I'm going to run you under the commandant's office.
- 老虎? - 是的 先生 - Tigers, huh? - Yes, sir.
也许我们以后再见 Perhaps I'll see you around.
天啊 Jiminy.
你是谁? Who is that?
豪伊是个很有魅力的女人 That Howie was a very attractive woman.
她是指挥官 She's a commandant.
啊 是的 先生 上校安德鲁斯 Ah, yes, sir. Colonel Andrews.
你能告诉我 我在这里应该做什么吗? So can you tell me what I'm supposed to be doing here?
我以为战争已经结束了 I thought the war was over.
我说不上来 I couldn't say.
你不能说 因为你不知道 或者你 You couldn't say because you don't know, or you
不能说 因为有人告诉你不能说? couldn't say because somebody told you you couldn't say?
我说不上来 I couldn't say.
别生我的气 医生 我只是个翻译 Don't get sore with me, Doc. I'm just a translator.
翻译什么? Translator for what?
我们将会看到 We'll see.
凯利医生 Dr. Kelly.
显然 中央司令部认为你是什么大牌心理医生 Apparently Central Command thinks you're some kind of hotshot head- shrinker.
我猜你有问题要问我 I imagine you have some questions for me.
不止几个 让我们开始吧 More than a few. Let's get to it.
你正站在一个秘密的军事监狱里 You are standing inside a secret military prison.
目前这里是纳粹最高指挥部的遗存 It currently houses what's left of the Nazi high command.
俄国 法国 英国和美国的政府 The governments of Russia, France, Great Britain, and our United States
正在决定是否要对这些人进行生死审判 are deciding right now whether to put these men on trial for their lives.
你是来检查并确保 You have been brought in to inspect and ensure the
犯人的心理健康如果审判继续进行 prisoners' mental health should that trial go forward.
自杀 Suicide.
这将是大多数囚犯最关心的问题 That'll be the main concern with most of the prisoners.
希特勒 戈培尔和希姆莱已经结束了自己的生命 Hitler, Goebbels, and Himmler have already taken their own lives.
我们不能再承受任何损失了 We cannot afford any more losses.
戈培尔和希姆莱就是这样做的 Goebbels and Himmler did it with this.
隐藏氰化物胶囊 Hidden cyanide capsule.
你要看的最接近的是戈林 The one you'll have to watch the closest is Göring.
戈林吗? Göring?
为什么不是赫尔曼·戈林? Why isn't Hermann Göring?
就是这个 That's the one.
赫尔曼·戈林在吗? Hermann Göring's here?
中士 有没有可能是他让你受苦 Sergeant, is it possible that he made you suffer
在去我办公室的路上给他头上一记重击? a large blow to his head on the way to my office?
据我所知没有 长官 Not that I'm aware of, sir.
抱歉 只是有点难以接受 Sorry, it's just a lot to process.
- 我肯定是的 试着做得快一点 - 是的 先生 - I'm sure it is. Try and do it faster. - Yes, sir.
戈林投降时 他正与家人一起旅行 When Göring surrendered, he was traveling with his family.
他有超过一百万美元的德国货币 He had over a million dollars in German currency
还有珠宝 还有很多这些东西 and jewelry, and a large quantity of these.
我们把它们送回美国进行分类 We had them sent back to the States for classification.
Hydrocodeine Hydrocodeine.
相当强效的止痛药 我是你的粉丝 Fairly potent painkiller. I'm a fan.
他说那是为了他的心脏 He says they're for his heart.
那我在布鲁克林有座相当大的桥可以卖给你 Well, then, I have a rather large bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
这些都与心脏无关 它们是一种麻醉剂 These have nothing to do with the heart. They're an opiate.
他一天吃几片药? How many pills does he take a day?
中士 四十岁 长官 Sergeant, forty, sir.
我想可以肯定地说帝国元帅有毒品问题 Well, I think it's safe to say the Reichsmarschall's got a drug problem.
他的家人现在在哪里? Where's his family now?
他们已经被释放了 你不用担心 They've been released, and they're not your concern.
你唯一的工作就是评估戈林和其他的 就是这样 Your only job is to evaluate Göring and the others. That is it.
长官 我是个好医生 但整个纳粹最高指挥部 Sir, I'm a good doctor, but the entire Nazi high command
可能有点超出我的专业范围了 might be a little bit beyond my area of expertise.
相信我 少校 这不是我的主意 Believe me, Major, this was not my idea.
解雇 Dismissed.
他对毒理不太在行 对吧? He was not great about tox, is he?
卡尔曼不是个热情的人 长官 Kalman's not known for his warmth, sir.
你在干什么? What are you doing?
戈林 现在 Göring. Right now.
- 你不想先安顿下来吗? - 我想知道我面对的是什么 - You don't want to get settled first? - I want to know what I'm dealing with.
好吧 别太吓人了 All right, well, don't be too intimidating.
我不是 告诉我吧 I'm not. Tell me about it.
德国国会议长 航空部部长赫尔曼·戈林： Reichsmarschall Hermann Göring, President of the Reichstag, Minister of Aviation,
德国空军总司令 经济部长 Commandant- in- Chief of the Luftwaffe, Minister of Economics,
卡斯塔菲秘密警察的创始成员 a founding member of the Kastafel secret police,
在1939年被任命为希特勒的继任者 was appointed Hitler's successor in 1939
也是德国历史上军衔最高的军官 and is the highest ranking German military officer of all time.
好吧 现在我有点害怕了 Okay. Now I'm a little intimidated.
不要 你很好 Don't be. You're good.
帝国元帅 ! Reichsmarschall!
帝国元帅 戈林 我是道格拉斯·凯利博士 Reichsmarschall Göring, my name is Dr. Douglas Kelly.
我是道格拉斯·凯利医生 My name is Dr. Douglas Kelly.
他说 太好了 医生 He says, wonderful, a doctor.
我是 我要给你量一下脉搏 I am. I'm going to take your pulse.
是的 是的 Yeah, yeah.
他一直在要他的药 He's been asking for his pills.
他想让你帮他拿过来 He wants you to get them for him.
我知道你有心脏病 I understand you've had heart trouble.
你能把衬衫打开吗? Can you open your shirt, please?
呼吸迅速而浅 不用翻译 Respiration is rapid and shallow. Don't translate that.
这些药片也能缓解疼痛 The pills help with the pain as well.
他说他在一战中被击落 He says he was shot down in World War I.
他右臀部中了一颗子弹 He has a bullet in his right hip.
1923年 他在慕尼黑战役中腹股沟中弹 In 1923 he was shot in the groin during the Munich pooch.
你中过很多枪 先生 You've been shot a lot, sir.
职业危害 Occupational hazard.
如果你真的想照顾好你的心脏 Well, if you really want to look after your heart,
最好的方法就是减肥 the best way to do that is to lose some weight.
我敢保证你看到的是全德国最好的体格 I'm assure you are looking at the best physique in all of Germany.
问问我妻子就知道了 Just ask my wife.
我相信你是对的 先生 但这里的警卫都叫你胖子 Oh, I'm sure you're right, sir, but the guards here call you fat stuff.
我相信一个普通人要减掉这么重肯定很难 I'm sure it would be difficult for a lesser man to lose this weight,
但你有别人没有的刚毅和自律 对吧? but you possess a fortitude and discipline that others do not, yes?
你看 这个人不一样 You see, this man is different.
我们会成为好朋友的 我敢肯定 We're going to be good friends, I'm sure of it.
我很期待 I look forward to that.
- 再见 - Auf Wiedersehen - Good day. - Auf Wiedersehen.
自我意识膨胀 Inflated sense of self.
迷人 Charming.
会说英语 Speaks English.
怎么啦? 怎么啦? 怎么啦? 怎么啦? What? What? What? What?
我说他胖时他看我的眼神 The way he looked at me when I called him fat.
他理解我 他一直在耍你 He understood me. He's been playing you.
不 不 他为什么要假装? No, no, why would he pretend?
翻译给了他更多的时间来考虑他的答案 Translation gives him more time to consider his answers.
他认为这是他的优势 He thinks that gives him an advantage.
等等 等等 Wait, hold on.
你是说我花了三个月的时间 You're saying I spent the last three months
他听得懂每个人的话 却自言自语? mumbling to myself while he understood everyone?
差不多 Pretty much.
你会告诉他你知道了吗? Are you going to tell him that you know?
不,不 他准备好了会告诉我的 No, no. He's going to tell me when he's ready.
- 什么时候? - 当他认定我不构成威胁时 - When's that? - When he determines I'm not a threat.
我想见见其他人 下一个是谁? I want to meet the rest of them. Who's next?
罗伯特·莱伊博士 德国劳工战线的领袖 Dr. Robert Ley, chief of the German labor front,
希特勒最早的追随者之一 one of Hitler's earliest followers.
他曾经写过一本赞美诗 He once wrote a book that was so complimentary
希特勒把整个竞选活动都毁了 因为他太尴尬了 that Hitler had the entire run destroyed because he was so embarrassed.
莱伊是纳粹奴工计划的先锋 被捕时穿着睡衣 Ley, who spearheaded the Nazi slave labor program, was captured in his pajamas,
自称Distelmaier博士 calling himself Dr. Distelmaier.
我不像你关在这里的那些渴望权力的人 I'm not like these other power- hungry men you have locked up in here.
我能闻到犹太人的味道 I can smell the Jew.
伟大的海军上将卡尔Dönitz Great admiral Karl Dönitz,
德国海军总司令 the German navy's commander in chief,
重创英国海军的德国潜艇袭击的设计者 architect of the U- boat attack that crippled the British navy.
纳粹狂热分子Dönitz被捕 The fanatical Nazi with the arrest of Dönitz.
第三帝国永远结束了 The Third Reich is ended forever.
我被拘留了76天 I've been in custody for 76 days.
我还没有被正式逮捕或被指控犯有特定罪行 I have yet to be formally arrested or charged with a specific crime,
这直接违反了日内瓦公约 which is a direct violation of the Geneva Convention.
要么起诉我 要么释放我 Charge me or release me.
朱利叶斯streich, Julius Streicher,
希特勒的宣传主管 Hitler's director of propaganda,
全国反犹报纸De Sturma的出版商 publisher of the national anti- Semitic paper, De Sturma.
施特赖歇尔 这位反犹太主义的大祭司和弗朗哥尼亚的野兽 Streicher, docked the high priest of anti- Semitism and the beast of Franconia,
领导犹太人抵制 led the Jewish boycott
以铁腕统治纽伦堡 and ruled Nuremberg with an iron fist.
他想知道你是不是犹太人 He wants to know if you're a Jew.
否 No.
但你从事的是犹太人的职业 But you work in a Jewish profession.
你为什么而战 医生? What do you fight for, doctor?
戈林是关键 Göring is the key.
流亡民族的领袖 A leader of a nation in exile.
他把他们都绑在一起 He binds them all together.
他开始严格控制自己的饮食和锻炼 He's begun a strict self- imposed diet and exercise
他正在接受药物治疗 regimen and is going cold turkey on the pills.
就好像他在接受什么训练 It's almost as if he's training for something.
如果有人要写一本关于他的书 那 If one were to write a book about him, it-
镇上有图书馆吗? Is there a library in town?
- 你想去图书馆吗? - 是的! - You want to go to a libray? - Yes!
- 在凌晨2点33分? - 是的 穿上你的外套 - At 2:33 in the morning? - Yes, get your coat.
我去拿外套 I'll get my coat.
我们被关在酒店里的自恋狂 The sheer amount of narcissists we got locked up in that hotel,
我打赌至少有一半的人在这里有书 I bet at least half have books in here
写关于他们或者由他们写的 written about them or written by them.
我们会把它们算出来的 We're going to figure these guys out.
医生 你会说德语吗? Do you speak any German, doc?
一点也没有 Not even a little.
你怎么学的? How'd you learn?
我母亲说德语 My mother spoke German.
我想像她一样 I wanted to be like her.
你真的认为你能做到吗? You really think you can do it?
做什么? Do what?
那就让他们对你敞开心扉吧 Well, get these guys to open up to you.
确定 Sure.
噢 Ow.
每个人都想被倾听 Everybody wants to be listened to.
这是一种本能 It's a natural instinct.
我了解他们 I learn about them.
我让他们信任我 I get them to trust me.
他们敞开心扉 They open up.
我说得很简单 I make it sound so easy.
如果我们能解剖邪恶呢? What if we could dissect evil?
是什么让这些人与众不同? What sets these men apart from all others?
是什么让他们犯下了这些罪行? What enabled them to commit the crimes that they did?
它几乎占领了整个世界 It almost took over the world.
你听说过犹太人的劳改营吗? You've heard about the work camps for Jews?
有传言说 Rumor has it
他们不仅仅是工作营地 they weren't just work camps.
我听说过 I've heard.
那么人们是怎么变成那样的呢? So how do people become like that?
我们其实有机会搞清楚 We actually have a shot to figure that out.
为了找出答案 To find out
是什么让德国人与众不同 what makes the Germans different.
不同吗? Different?
从我们 From us.
写这本书的人可以赚很多钱 A man who writes a book about that can make a lot of money.
刚才我还以为你很高尚呢 You know, for a second I thought you were being noble.
你不高尚? You aren't noble?
很好 Fine.
我们可以从心理上定义邪恶 We could psychologically define evil.
我们可以确保这样的事情不再发生 We could make sure something like this never happens again.
这是怎么呢? What's going on?
赫尔曼·戈林不能呼吸了 Hermann Göring can't breathe.
快走! Move!
哈利! Hallie!
他的呼吸道通畅 His airway is clear.
这很好 对吧? That's good, right?
而且他心脏病发作了 And he's having a heart attack.
没有监狱医生 Without the prison doctor.
他在来的路上了 He's on his way.
叫他快点 Tell him to hurry.
哈莉 拿点阿司匹林 Hallie, get some aspirin.
普通的阿司匹林 Plain old ordinary aspirin.
你不能去 You're going to not go.
嘿 嘿 Hey, hey.
你的心还在跳 Your heart's still beating.
也就是说你还活着 Which means you're alive.
我要让你保持这种状态 I'm going to keep you that way.
我需要你保持冷静 I need you to stay calm.
和我一起呼吸 Breathe with me.
进进出 In and out.
进出 In and out.
我在这里 I'm here.
看着我 Look at me.
我在这里 我不会让你死的 I'm here. I'm not going to let you die.
进进出出 In and out.
那是你妻子吗? Is that your wife?
她在这里 She's here.
和我一起呼吸 Breathe with me.
给我一些 哈莉 Hand me a few of those, Hallie.
谢谢你 哈莉 Thank you, Hallie.
这对心脏是最好的 Best thing for the heart.
相信我 Trust me.
吸气和呼气 Breathe in and out.
你的脉搏很慢 Your pulse is slow.
嘿 你猜怎么着? Hey, guess what?
你活着 You're alive.
我是 I am.
嗯 这个怎么样? Well, how about that?
谢谢你! Thank you.
我们带他去看电视吧 妈妈 Let's get him to the infomerica, mon.
他笑了笑 He smiled for it.
他用英语说谢谢 He said thank you in English.
杜鲁门想在1948年赢得连任 Truman wants to win reelection in 48.
他不会那样纵容纳粹的 He's not going to do that coddling of the Nazis.
这是真的 That's true enough.
另外 审判意味着给他们一个向世界讲述自己故事的机会 Plus, a trial means giving them a chance to tell their stories to the world.
我们害怕听到他们说什么? What are we afraid to hear them tell?
我们赢了这场该死的战争 鲍勃 We won the damn war, Bob.
如果你这么做 它会变成有史以来最大的无用之物 If you do this, it'll turn into the biggest boondoggle of all time.
该死的法庭里有摄像头 Cameras in the damn courtroom.
如果他们有同情心呢? Well, what if they're sympathetic?
如果这一切只是为他们提供了一个 What if all this does is provide them with a
全世界反犹太主义的平台? platform for antisemitism all over the world?
你不会为此负责的 You won't be responsible for that.
你想知道我能不能不经考验就跳几支舞? You want to know if I'm comfortable executing a few dances without trial?
我当然是 Damn right I am.
反正也没关系 It doesn't matter anyway.
我永远也抓不到俄国人 I'll never get the Russians.
我们抓到俄国人了 We got the Russians.
怎么啦? What?
我们抓到俄国人了 We got the Russians.
我们做了吗? We did?
杜鲁门亲自打电话给斯大林 希望尼基琴科担任首席检察官 Truman called Stalin himself, looking at Nikichenko for lead prosecutor.
这真是个好消息 That's fantastic news.
我不知道你是谁 I have no idea who you are.
约翰·阿蒙斯上校 长官 我为司法部长工作 Colonel John Ammons, sir. I work for the Judge Advocate General.
所以军方给我们派了个律师 So, the Army sent us a lawyer.
是的 先生 我带来艾森豪威尔将军的问候 他说他 Yes, sir. I bring greetings from General Eisenhower, who says he
想让你知道他不赞成不经审判就绞死任何人 wants you to know that he's not for hanging anyone without a trial.
这就是进步 Well, that's progress.
他还表示 他希望审判不会太久 He also says he hopes the trial won't take
太久了 所以我们可以继续绞死他们 too long so we can get on with hanging them.
请坐 Have a seat.
我读过很多关于你的事 先生 他们说你将成为下一任首席大法官 I've read a lot about you, sir. They say you're going to be the next Chief Justice.
总统亲自答应给他这个座位 The President promised him the seat personally.
让我发誓保守秘密 所以我们还是别说出去吧 And swore me into secrecy, so let's maybe not tell
每个走进办公室的人都要谈论这件事 好吗? everyone who walks into the office about it, okay?
我办公室的每个人都说你不可能得到审判 Well, everyone in my office says there's no way you get the trial.
你说呢? What do you say?
我说我喜欢失败者 I say I like an underdog.
早上好 朱利叶斯 Good morning, Julius.
我要给你们看一系列的卡片 每张卡片上都有墨迹 I'm going to show you a series of cards, each with ink blots,
你要告诉我每个墨迹让你看到了什么 and you're going to tell me what each ink blot makes you see.
也许它能揭示你的性格 你的 Perhaps it will reveal something about your character, your
智慧 创造力 还有这里的一切 你知我知 intelligence, creativity, and everything here stays between us.
医生吗? A doctor?
是 Yes.
如果有帮助的话 我不能用英语和你说话 I can't speak to you in English if it is of some help.
只要你觉得舒服就行 Only if it makes you comfortable.
我们开始吧? Shall we begin?
我在召唤你 I'm calling you.
我是巫师 I'm Hexen.
我是你们的主管 鱼雷特雷弗 This is your director, Torpedo Trevor.
鱼雷头 Torpedo Head.
有人打翻了什么东西 Somebody has spilled something.
我看到一万匹马 我看见女武神骑马 I see 10,000 horses. I see the Valkyries ride.
阴道 A vagina.
阴道? A vagina?
阴道吗? A vagina?
犹太人的阴道 A Jewish vagina.
这是血 This is blood.
或墨水 Or ink.
你可以用墨水写很多东西 You can say a lot of things with ink.
对不起 鲍勃 今晚有消息传来 答案是否定的 I'm sorry, Bob. Word came down tonight. It's going to be a no.
国会会对审判说不 他们只想要处决 Congress is going to say no to the trial. They just want executions.
我没有招数了 I'm out of moves.
总统呢? What about the president?
总统想找个人躲在后面 这就是为什么他需要国会 The president wants someone to hide behind. That's why he needs Congress.
没有对方谁也做不到 Neither will do it without the other.
所以你需要更大的人来支持吗? So you need someone bigger to back it?
哦 别这样 谁比总统还大? Oh, come on. Who's bigger than the president?
耶稣基督 Jesus Christ.
字面上 Literally.
你是天主教徒吗? Are you a Catholic?
我现在是 I am now.
圣父大人现在要见你 The Holy Father will see you now.
你想用他们的性命来审判这个人 You wish to put this man on trial for their lives.
那么你是来请求教会在这件事上的祝福 Then you have come to ask for the Church's blessing in this.
你们的支持将对建立国际共识大有帮助 Your support would go a long way to building an international consensus.
没有人否认这些人是邪恶的 No one denies these men are evil.
但以眼还眼并不是解决办法 But an eye for an eye is not the answer.
也许不是 但我很确定我第一次读到的地方 Maybe not, but I'm pretty sure where I first read about it.
你是天主教徒吗? Are you Catholic?
不 先生 No, sir.
一个信教的人? A religious man?
没有特别的 Not especially.
但在国内 他们称你为法官 And yet at home they call you a justice.
名字不是我选的 I didn't pick the name.
如果你长时间对别人评头论足 If you sit long enough in judgment of others,
你开始相信人的法则比上帝的法则更重要 you come to believe the laws of man outweigh the laws of God.
我不相信 I don't believe that.
那你相信什么? Then what do you believe?
我相信人类有能力从纳粹手中拯救自己 I believe in man in our capacity to save ourselves from men like the Nazis.
我相信这是一个很好的行为 I believe this to be a good act.
一旦这么好 你必须绕过你自己的法律来实现它 Once so good, you must circumnavigate your own laws to achieve it.
很抱歉 但天主教会不能支持你这么做 I'm sorry, but the Catholic Church cannot support you in this.
但你可以在1933年支持他们 But you could support them in 1933.
我很抱歉? I'm sorry?
你亲自和希特勒签署了协约 You signed the Concordat with Hitler yourself.
那是另一回事 That was a different matter.
你住在慕尼黑 你是驻德意志帝国的大使 You lived in Munich. You were the nuncio to the German Empire.
天主教会是第一个承认纯粹国家的世界大国 The Catholic Church was the first world power to acknowledge the pure state.
你给了纳粹可信性 You gave the Nazis credibility.
为了保护德国的天主教徒 In order to protect Catholics in Germany.
犹太人没有人为他们做这件事 这不是很遗憾吗? Isn't it a pity the Jews didn't have someone to do that for them?
你以为我会宽恕他们的所作所为吗? Do you think I condone what they did?
人们会记得的 先生 People will remember, sir.
你在1933年的所作所为 What you did in 1933.
你现在所做的 What you do now.
他们会告诉他们的孩子 They'll tell their children.
天主教会支持纳粹吗? Did the Catholic Church stand with the Nazis?
还是反对他们? Or against them?
你刚刚是在勒索教皇吗? Did you just blackmail the Pope?
我不想谈这个 I don't want to talk about it.
昨晚有消息传来 Word came down last night.
会有一场审判 There's going to be a trial.
一场审判? A trial?
好 Good.
应该是这样的 As it should be.
你给我看的那些牌 Those cards that you showed me.
他们是怎么教你了解我的? What did they teach you about me?
老实说 你非常聪明 Honestly, that you are highly intelligent.
我本可以告诉你的 I could have told you this.
你是个自恋狂 And that you're a narcissist.
沉溺于一种野心勃勃的幻想生活 Given to an expansive and aggressive fantasy life.
当你发现世界的时候 你有强大的野心和征服世界的动力 With a strong ambition and drive to subjugate the world as you find it.
你自己的思维模式 To your own pattern of thinking.
你对此感到惊讶吗? And you were surprised by this?
不 No.
那扑克牌什么也没教会你 Then the cards have taught you nothing.
特丽丝 他告诉我你会魔法 Now, Tris, he tells me you do magic.
单纯 Einsauber.
对不起 Sorry.
如果不是太麻烦的话 我们没有娱乐活动 Perhaps if it's not too much trouble, we don't get entertainment.
为什么不呢? Why not?
这是一个普通的银币 Here's an average ordinary silver dollar.
哈! Ta- da!
很好 很好 Very good. Very good.
总有一天我会给你表演一个魔术 I will show you a magic trick one day.
那是什么? What's that?
我要逃离刽子手的绞索 I am going to escape the hangman's noose.
你打算怎么做? How do you plan on doing that?
如果我告诉你 那就不是把戏了 If I were to tell you, it would not be a trick.
不 我不是 No, I'm not.
这一集结束了 This is the end of the episode.
你看到盟军的能力了吗? You see what the allies are capable of?
什么都没剩下 There is nothing left.
是你说的 You said that.
正义之宫 The palace of justice.
屋顶被空袭破坏了 The roof has been damaged by the air raids.
大火烧毁了楼上的建筑 摧毁了钟楼 Fire gutted the upper floors and collapsed the clock tower.
但这个法庭建成后应该能容纳600人 But this court room should be able to hold 600 people when it's finished.
这些补给是怎么回事? What's with all the supplies?
当纳粹占领这座城市时 他们在这里进行了最后的抵抗 The Nazis fought their last stand here when the city was taken.
所以他们会再次这样做 And so they will again.
这片被征服的土地上所有美丽的城市 All the beautiful cities in this conquered land.
你想在这破壳里试试吗? You want to try them in this bombed out husk?
这位是大卫·麦克斯韦·菲夫爵士 英国方面的助理检察官 This is Sir David Maxwell Fyfe, assistant prosecutor for the British.
是的 先生 我们有 Yes, sir, we do.
首先 我们可以控制空间 For one thing, we can control the space.
另一方面 有一座毗邻的监狱 最多可容纳1200名囚犯 For another, there's an adjoining prison with room for up to 1200 inmates.
当他需要22个人的空间时 When he needs space for 22.
对不起 22个人 先生 Sorry, 22, sir.
这是我们在第一次审判中要起诉的人数 That's the number of men we're indicting for the first trial.
你看 如果我们不能赢得这次审判 以后就不会再有审判了 You see, if we don't win that trial, there won't be any more trials to come.
还有你 我和杰克逊法官以及我们各自的 And you, myself and Justice Jackson and our respective
政府将成为全世界的笑柄 governments will be the laughingstock of the world,
被我们囚禁的人打败了 defeated by the very men we've imprisoned.
那将会很有趣 So that will be fun.
我在华盛顿的朋友们说 他的意见会转而反对你 My friends in Washington say opinions turn to him against you.
有传言说斯通卸任后你将得不到首席大法官的位子 There's talk that you won't get the Chief Justice's seat when Stone steps down.
好吧 谁来选呢? 本森吗? 本森太政治化了 Well, who's truly going to pick? Benson? Benson's too political.
是的 但是他在那里 整件事变得 Yes, but he's there. This whole thing's become
小插曲 罗伯特 它甚至还没有开始 a sideshow, Robert. It hasn't even begun.
他们说简报都是你自己写的 They say you're writing all the briefs yourself,
拒绝其他律师的帮助 refusing help from other lawyers.
因为这件事必须做对 Because it has to be done right.
会的 但你一个人做不到 And it will, but you can't do it alone.
只要上了法庭一切都会好起来的 Oh, everything will be fine once we actually get to trial.
你这么说 就好像用未经检验的判例法审判纳粹最高指挥官一样 You say that, as though trying the Nazi high command with untested case law,
全世界都在关注是比较容易的部分 the whole world watching is going to be the easy part.
既然你这么说了 Well, when you put it like that.
任何不能完全胜利的事情都将被视为彻底失败 Anything less than total victory will be considered utter defeat,
也就是说你不仅要赢 罗伯特你必须完美无缺 which means you don't just have to win, Robert. You have to be flawless.
没有压力 No pressure.
我爱他 我爱他 I love him, I love him.
你的牢房是石头做的 九英尺乘十三英尺 Your cells are made of stone, nine feet by thirteen.
你们的床是用螺栓固定在墙上的 Your beds are bolted to the wall.
你的床垫是用稻草填的 而不是弹簧 Your mattress is stuffed with straw instead of springs.
你们的桌子是硬纸板做的 支撑不了一个人的全部体重 Your desks are made of cardboard and will not support a man's full weight.
你们的椅子不能靠墙 Your chairs are never allowed against any wall
每晚日落时就会被移走 and will be removed every night at sundown.
当你睡觉时 你的头和手也会 When you sleep, your head and hands will
始终保持在你的毯子之上 remain above your blanket visible at all times.
不会给你们发腰带 你们会 You will be given no belts, you will be given
不系鞋带 不给你马桶盖 no shoelaces, you will be given no toilet seats,
你们没有任何东西可以用来作为结束自己生命的武器 you will be given nothing with which to use as a weapon to take your own lives.
欢迎来到纽伦堡 Welcome to Nuremberg.
这是一个细胞 Now this is a cell.
你的证明吗? Your proof?
谢尔曼建造 我怎么能不呢? SHermann built. How could I not?
他们很快就会起诉我们的 They will charge us soon, yeah.
你很期待吗? You're looking forward to it?
我相信我是 就像你说的 我要上法庭了 I believe I am. I will have, as you say, my day in court.
你认识杰克逊法官吗? Do you know this Jackson, the Justice Jackson?
不 我不知道 No, I do not.
他想给我装备 但他不会成功的 He will try to outfit me, but he will not succeed.
对自己很有信心 Very sure of yourself.
医生 从来没有人打败过我 Doctor, no man has ever beaten me.
有些书里写满了那些尝试过的人的名字 There are books filled with the names of those who have tried.
我听到你说 谢尔曼建 I hear you said, SHermann built.
你觉得我就因为被关在牢房里就处于不利地位 You think I am at some sort of disadvantage because I sit in a cell.
我会提醒你 我投降了 I will remind you, I surrendered.
这正是我想去的地方 This is exactly where I desired to be.
戈林对我来说仍然是个谜 Göring remains an enigma to me.
我们越接近起诉书 他就越有信心 The closer we get to the indictments, the more confident he becomes.
我得想个办法接近他 I need to figure out a way to get closer to him.
我们怎么做呢? So how do we do that?
我们请求他的帮助 We ask for his help.
与什么? With what?
鲁道夫·赫斯 Rudolf Hess.
鲁道夫·赫斯要来了 Rudolf Hess is coming here.
鲁道夫·赫斯 元首的副手 Rudolf Hess, deputy to the Fuhrer.
他是继希特勒和歌德之后的第三位继承人 Third in line for succession following Hitler and Goethe.
赫斯把我的收入记录给了希特勒 Hess transcribed my income for Hitler while the two were in
他是他最狂热的追随者之一 prison and was known as one of his most fanatical followers.
胜利! Sieg Heil!
别再在我的监狱里这么做了 Never do that in my prison again.
1941年5月10日 战争最激烈的时候 赫斯爬进了 On May 10th, 1941, at the height of the war, Hess climbed into
一架梅塞施密特战斗机独自在北海上空飞行 a Messerschmitt fighter plane alone and flew over the North Sea.
他在苏格兰上空的某处跳伞 结果撞断了脚踝 He bailed out somewhere over Scotland and broke his ankle upon impact.
在他被发现后 他宣布他就是鲁道夫·赫斯 Upon his discovery, he announced that he was Rudolf Hess.
赫斯是德国最高统帅部的第三顺位人物 他来这里是为了和平 他想说话 Hess was third in line of the German high command and he was here on a mission of peace and wanted to speak
还有道格拉斯·道格拉斯·汉密尔顿 第13任汉密尔顿公爵 赫斯在1936年柏林奥运会上认识了他 with Douglas Douglas Hamilton, the 13th Duke of Hamilton, whom Hess had met at the 1936 Olympic Games in Berlin.
在经历了一些困难之后 赫斯终于如愿以偿 After some obstacles, Hess was granted his meeting.
在那里 他宣布他打算会见乔治六世国王 解雇温斯顿·丘吉尔 还有 There he announced his intention to meet with King George VI, have Winston Churchill fired, and
与英国谈判停战 允许两国联合起来打败苏联 negotiate a truce with Britain allowing the two nations to join forces and defeat the Soviet Union.
赫斯立即被扔进了伦敦塔 Hess was immediately thrown into the Tower of London.
在那里 赫斯开始声称他不记得过去的事情 甚至不记得他的童年 There Hess began claiming he had no memory of past events, even his childhood.
这种情况一直持续到1945年2月 当时他说他之前的健忘症是伪造的 This lasted until February 1945 when he said his previous amnesia had been faked.
然后他又疯了 说他失忆了 He then flipped again and said his amnesia had
1945年7月 当德国崩溃时 他回到了美国 returned in July 1945 when Germany collapsed.
所以现在你会来赫尔曼·戈林诋毁我的老朋友 So now you would come to Hermann Göring to discredit my old friend.
这对我有什么好处? What would be in this for me?
你想要什么? What do you want?
我的妻子和女儿 My wife and my daughter.
自从我投降后就没人能找到他们 No one has been able to locate them since I surrendered.
我要你帮我女儿找到他们把这些信交给他们 I need you to find them for my daughter and to give to them these letters.
我们先和赫斯谈谈 然后是你的家人 First we talk to Hess and then your family.
怎么样? How about that?
那又怎样? 这家伙几乎占据了整个 So what? This guy almost takes over the whole
世界 现在他想给它邮寄吗? world and now he wants to do a mail run for it?
我对他的感情比任何人都深 I'm a deeper with this guy than anyone's ever been.
读他的家人只会告诉我更多 And reading his family will only tell me more.
斯库多夫 你还记得我吗? So, Scudorf, do you remember me?
是的 我们在一起过 We were together, yes.
事情一定是这样的 That must have been the case.
但我不记得任何人 But I don't remember anyone.
是我们三个 斯库多夫 It was the three of us, Scudorf.
你和我 You and I.
和阿道夫 And Adolf.
我们统治着一个帝国 We ruled an empire.
我很抱歉 I'm sorry.
你很可能是我的朋友 You may well have been a friend.
但我已经不认识你了 But I don't know you anymore.
他在说谎 He is lying.
他刚刚花了一个小时说他不记得我了 He has just spent an hour to say he does not remember me.
但当他来到监狱看到我时 他做了什么? But when he arrived in the prison and he saw me, what did he do?
敬礼 Salute.
西西勒 Sicile.
非常好 That was very good.
这太蠢了 我是愚蠢的 This is dumb. I'm dumb.
我就知道你会帮我渡过难关 I knew you'd come through for me.
是啊 因为我是个笨蛋 Yeah, because I'm a dummy.
你怎么找到他的? How'd you find him?
当地的八卦 告诉我他们在巴尔德斯坦 Local gossip. Told me they were in Baldurstein.
抽烟吗? Smoke?
从没见过你抽烟 Never seen you smoke.
是的 我不知道 我放弃了 Yeah, I don't. Gave it up.
我父母不喜欢这样 My parents hated this.
你总是带在身上 You always got them on you.
这是跟军官搞好关系的伎俩 It's a trick to get in good with the officers.
告诉自己战争结束后我要抽根烟 Tell myself I'll have a smoke when the war is done.
战争结束了 豪伊 The war is done, Howie.
这对他们来说并不过分 It's not too much for them.
格里格太太 Mrs. Gerig.
我叫道格拉斯·凯利 My name is Douglas Kelly.
我在监狱工作 我是心理医生 I work at the prison. I'm a psychiatrist.
我叫道格拉斯·凯利 My name is Douglas Kelly.
我在医院工作 我是老师 I work in the hospital. I'm a teacher.
你丈夫让我给你带些信来 Your husband asked me to bring you some letters.
是 Yes.
他怎么样了? How is he?
他很好 He's good.
他举着它 He's holding it up.
是你在弹吗? Was that you playing?
它是美丽的 It was beautiful.
她说他是你父亲的朋友 Ah, she said he's a friend of your father.
是吗? Is he?
他是你的父亲吗? Is he your father?
爸爸怎么样了? How is papa?
他做得很好 He's doing very well.
他是不是很勇敢? Is he being brave?
非常勇敢 Very brave.
他也想变得勇敢 He wants to be brave too.
他很聪明 He's smart.
他有很多事情要做 He has a lot of stuff to do.
他给你写了一封信 He wrote you a letter.
谢谢你! Thank you.
你想去医院吗? 谢谢你! Do you want to go to the hospital? Thank you.
她会来100次的 谢谢你! She will be here 100 times. Thank you.
谢谢你! Thank you.
医生 Doctor.
赫尔曼博士 Dr. Hermann.
我不知道我能不能 I don't know if I can.
彼得 Peter.
回来了 Come back.
好吧,医生 Okay, doctor.
搞什么鬼? What the hell?
赫尔曼 戈林吗? Hermann Göring?
我是比赛执法官 赫尔曼·戈林 I am a race marshal, Hermann Göring.
赫尔曼·威廉·戈林 你被指控 Hermann Wilhelm Göring, you are hereby charged by
美利坚合众国 法兰西共和国 the United States of America, the French Republic,
大不列颠及北爱尔兰联合王国 United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the
对苏维埃社会主义共和国联盟的指控 Union of Soviet Socialist Republics on the following four counts.
危害和平罪 战争罪 危害人类罪 Crimes against peace, war crimes, crimes against humanity
以及犯下这些罪行的共同计划或阴谋 and of a common plan or conspiracy to commit those crimes.
你被指控的反人类罪包括谋杀 The crimes against humanity you are accused of include murder,
灭绝 奴役 驱逐和其他不人道行为 extermination, enslavement, deportation and other inhumane acts.
这是你的起诉书副本 你有什么问题吗? This is a copy of your indictment. Do you have any questions?
不 No.
日安 Good day.
下一个是谁? Who's next?
斯特赖克 Striker.
你有什么问题吗? Do you have any questions?
他说了什么? What did he say?
他说他想要一个犹太律师 He said he wants a Jewish lawyer.
我不会上庭的 I'm not going to trial.
你是 莱伊博士 You are, Dr. Ley.
我从没杀过人 I never killed anyone.
没关系 没关系 没关系 It's okay. It's okay. It's okay.
罗伯特 Robert.
别碰我! Don't touch me!
抓住他! Hold him!
出来! Come out!
别让我失望! Don't drive me down!
开枪! 开枪! 开枪! Shoot me! Shoot me! Shoot me!
不顺的一天? Rough day?
火车上的那位女士 Lady from the train.
现在魔法 Magic now.
秘密任务进行得怎么样了? How goes the secret mission?
它遇到了一些障碍 It's hit a few obstacles.
我看得出来 I can see that.
你在这里做什么? What are you doing here?
我是和媒体一起来的 I came in with the press.
赫尔曼·戈林和纳粹今天被起诉 Hermann Göring and the Nazis are being indicted today.
明白了 No say.
系好安全带 Strap yourself in.
这座城市即将成为地球上最伟大的表演 This city is about to become the greatest show on earth.
是的 先生 Yes, sir.
关于纳粹劳改营的真正目的 黑暗的谣言不断流传 Dark rumors continue to swirl about the true purpose of the Nazi work camps.
法律团队正在集结 准备这场有望成为世纪审判的审判 The legal teams are assembling for what promises to be the trial of the century.
通过这条隧道 纳粹分子将被带到法庭 Through this tunnel, the Nazis will be taken to the courtroom.
现在正在为试验重建 Now being rebuilt for the trial.
在那里 电影灯光会很亮 以至于 There, the film lights will be so bright that
法庭将为观众提供太阳镜 the court goers will be provided with sunglasses.
赫尔曼·戈林和他的希特勒亲信 Hermann Göring and his Hitler- loving cronies are
计划在一周内与我们的队员对决 scheduled to face off with our boys in one week.
正义会占上风 还是法西斯会获得自由? Will justice prevail or will the fascists go free?
记者非常希望协约国不要遇到麻烦 This reporter desperately hopes that the Allies run into no problems.
我们有麻烦了 We have a problem.
威塞尔邦德行动是指1940年德国入侵丹麦和挪威 Operation Wieserbund was the German invasion of Denmark and Norway in 1940.
在教科书式的侵略战争中 纳粹 他们 In the textbook aggressive war, the Nazis, they
他们用坦克占领了中立国 rolled tanks and they occupied neutral country.
除了他们会声称入侵是先发制人的打击 Except they're going to claim that the invasion was a preemptive strike.
抢占什么? To preempt what?
英国人计划入侵挪威 The British plan to invade Norway.
这太荒谬了 Well, that's ridiculous.
绝对荒谬 我完全同意 Absolutely ridiculous. I'm in complete agreement.
你现在在这个房间里让我很担心 It concerns me that you're in this room right now.
好吧 除了荒谬之外 这也是真的 Well, in addition to being ridiculous, it also happens to be true.
他们的想法是利用这个国家作为一个集结地 阻止纳粹的进攻 The idea was to use the country as a staging area to hold the Nazis back.
并起诉纳粹策划侵略 And to prosecute the Nazis for planning aggressive
如果你们打算发动侵略战争的话 wars if you guys were planning aggressive wars.
我打赌这其中一定有一定的逻辑 I bet there's a certain logic there.
纳粹能证明吗? Can the Nazis prove it?
德国法律已经提出了要求 The German law has already put in a request
找文件 但他们没有 还没有 for documents, but they don't have it. Not yet.
那我们就没事了 Then we're in the clear.
也许吧 但这引发了一个更大的问题 Maybe. But it raises a bigger issue.
我们得知道纳粹知道什么 他们的防御策略是什么 We have to know what the Nazis know, what their defense strategy is.
我们该怎么做呢? How exactly to propose we do that?
凯利医生 今晚你要见一个非常重要的人 Dr. Kelly, you are going to meet someone very important this evening.
这可能是你发现蜜蜂有用的机会 This might actually be your chance to find the bee of some use.
印象深刻 对吧? Impressive, right?
希特勒想把它建成世界上最大的体育场 Hitler was building it to be the largest stadium on the planet.
你是杰克逊法官 You're Justice Jackson.
你是心理医生 And you're the shrink.
这是他们举行集会的地方 This is where they held the rallies.
每年 希特勒都会聚集在这里 对整个纳粹党发表讲话 Every year, Hitler would pack this place, speak to the Nazi party as a whole.
他们拍摄下来 They filmed it.
1935年 他在这里宣布了纽伦堡法案 In 1935, this is where he announced the Nuremberg Laws.
你知道法律吗? You know the laws?
纽伦堡法案将犹太人定义为任何人 The Nuremberg Laws defined a Jew as any person
有三四个犹太祖父母 having three or four Jewish grandparents.
不管你是信奉犹太教 还是改信基督教 It didn't matter if you practiced Judaism, if you converted to Christianity.
这是关于鲜血的 This was about blood.
这些法律剥夺了所有犹太人的德国公民身份 The laws stripped all Jews of German citizenry.
他们规定犹太人和德国人结婚是非法的 They made it illegal for Jews and Germans to marry
因为对拉森山德的恐惧 each other because of the fear of Rasenschande.
血液的污秽 Defilement of the blood.
根据法律 犹太人被禁止使用公立医院 Under the laws, Jews were prohibited from using state hospitals.
14岁以上的孩子不允许接受公共教育 And not allowed access to public education beyond the age of 14.
图书馆 公园和海滩都不对犹太人开放 Libraries, parks, and beaches were closed to Jews.
战争纪念碑上所有犹太人的名字 War memorials had all Jewish names on them.
被删除 Expunged.
所有这些都是在这里宣布的 All of that was announced right here on this very ground.
你想从我这里得到什么? What do you want from me?
你的病人吗? Your patients?
我需要你开始问他们正确的问题 I need you to start asking them the right questions.
什么是正确的问题? What are the right questions?
他们怎么跟律师说的? What they tell their lawyers?
他们打算如何保护自己? How they plan to defend themselves?
你想让我当间谍? You want me to be a spy?
我要你为你的国家尽你的责任 I want you to do your duty for your country.
不 你是想让我打破病人保密协议 No, you want me to break Dr. Patient Confidentiality.
我想你已经说过了 医生 我们阅读了每一份报告 I think you already have, doctor. We read every report.
我们需要更多 We need more.
为什么不直接毙了他们? Why not just shoot them?
他想要什么都行 Just whatever he wants.
我是说 如果你要作弊…这不是作弊 I mean, if you're just gonna cheat... That's not cheating.
如果你要我背叛我的誓言 If you're asking me to betray my oath...
为什么不直接杀了他们? Why not just shoot them and be done with it?
上次大战之后 我们让德国屈服了 After the last great war, we made Germany crawl.
我们羞辱了他们 We humiliated them.
让他们支付无力支付的赔款 Made them pay reparations they couldn't afford.
我们让他们如此讨厌我们 以至于在不到20年的时间里... We made them hate us so much that in less than two decades...
他们从一个支离破碎的国家变成了近乎世界的征服者 They went from a broken nation to near world conquerors.
我们必须把这件事做好 因为如果我们不... We had to do this right because if we don't...
如果15年后他们卷土重来 变得更加强大... If fifteen years from now they come back even stronger...
我不知道我们能否第三次打败他们 I don't know if we can beat them a third time.
如果我们射杀这些人 他们就成了殉道者 If we just shoot these men, we make them martyrs.
我不会允许他们那样做的 I'm not gonna allow them that.
不会有他们的雕像 There will be no statues of them.
没有赞美之歌 No songs of praise.
我要让赫尔曼·戈林上证人席… I'm gonna put Hermann Göring on the stand...
我要让他告诉全世界他做了什么 And I'm gonna make him tell the world what he did.
这样它就不会再发生了 So that it can never happen again.
你带我来这里是因为戈林 You brought me here because of Göring.
不 No.
我带你来这里是想告诉你 在开枪之前… I brought you here to show you that before the bullets were fired...
在数千万人死亡之前... Before tens of millions of men died...
这一切都始于法律 All of this started with laws.
这场战争在法庭上结束 This war ends in a courtroom.
戈林吗? With Göring?
他现在是纳粹的代言人 He's the face of the Nazis now.
他倒下了 大家也跟着倒下了 As he falls, so do they all.
但如果我要那么做… But if I'm gonna do that...
我得做好准备 I need to be ready for it.
你能帮我吗? Will you help me?
我们来谈谈希特勒 Let's talk about Hitler.
有趣的是你以前没有直接问我这个问题 It is interesting you have not asked me this directly before.
我很好奇是什么吸引了我 I'm curious what the attraction was.
有一个失败的画家 There was a failed painter.
还不是一个好士兵 Not a very good soldier yet.
他受到崇拜和尊敬 He was worshipped and revered.
他使我们重新感到自己是德国人 He made us feel German again.
如何? How?
白皮德国工艺熊 Bears of white skinned Germany craft.
然后走过来一个人说...我们可以重拾昔日的辉煌 And along comes a man who says... We can reclaim our former glory.
难道你不会追随这样的人吗? Would you not follow a man like this?
取决于你还想做什么 Depends what else you wanted to do.
我第一次看到希特勒讲话是...1922年 The first time I saw Hitler talk was... 1922.
在咖啡店楼上 Upstairs of a coffee shop.
大概30个人 For maybe 30 people.
这是和平时期 但这是一个没有食物 工作和鞋子的和平时期 This was peacetime, but it was a peace without food, jobs, shoes.
他站了起来 And he stood up.
他还说 法国人的肚子里装满了德国人的痛苦 And he said French bellies are being filled with German pain.
然后...如果你要威胁别人 你就需要刺刀 And then... If you make threats, you need bayonets.
格里德 打倒凡尔赛 Griard. Down with Versailles.
所以那天晚上... So that night...
我成为了国家社会主义者 I became a National Socialist.
从…一个演讲? Off of... One speech?
我看得出来 他会博得老兵们的好感 I could tell he would appeal to the old soldiers.
如果他们有老兵 他们就有人力 If they have the old soldiers, they have the manpower.
即使是他的反犹主义 这也是有实际目的的 Even with his antisemitism, it served a practical purpose.
它给我们带来了需要其他东西来集中情感的男人 It brought towards us men who needed something else to focus their emotions.
还有别的可责怪的 Something else to blame.
营地呢? And the camps?
它们是我们政敌的劳动营 They were to be work camps for our political opponents.
仅此而已 Nothing more.
你同意了吗? And you signed off on that?
劳动营 是的 For work camps, yeah.
不认为日本人进入了吗 Do not think that the Japanese entered by the
珍珠港事件后美国人没有工作? Americans after Pearl Harbor were not put to work?
当然了 Of course they were.
我建造集中营是为了德国的利益 为了战争 I made the camps for the good of Germany, for the war effort.
不是为了死 Not for death.
希姆莱 Himmler.
海德里希 Heitrich.
他们有责任吗? They were responsible?
如果这是真的 他们所说的都发生在集中营里 If it is true, what they say happened at the camps.
这对伟大的德意志帝国来说是一个严重的灾难 This is a grave blight on the great German Reich.
你告诉你的律师了吗? Have you told your lawyer about this?
道格拉斯 我不会反抗元首的 Douglas, I will not stand against the Fuhrer.
就算我能帮你也不行 Not even if I can help you.
这些不是人们需要知道的 医生 These are not things people need to know, Doctor.
只有你 Only you.
他会有同情心 He can be sympathetic.
这对你来说是个问题 It is going to be a problem for you.
他严肃地声称 他认为那里只是劳改营 He seriously claims that he thought they were only work camps.
没错 That is right.
你相信他吗? Do you believe him?
希姆莱管理着集中营 Himmler ran the camps.
他是党卫军的首领 He was the head of the SS.
戈林是空军司令 Göring was the head of the Air Force.
在美国 空军司令多久来一次 How often in America does the head of the Air Force
知道特勤局局长在做什么吗? know what the head of the Secret Service is doing?
我很抱歉 但我真不敢相信我们现在在讨论这个话题 I am sorry, but I cannot believe that we are having this conversation right now.
我在照你说的做 I am doing what you ask.
不 你是在替他道歉 No, you are apologizing for him.
先生们,请 我不是为纳粹辩护的人 Gentlemen, please. I am not the one defending the Nazi.
你以为我在为他辩护? 我在分析他 你这个乡巴佬 You think I am defending him? I am analyzing him, you provincial moron.
戈林首先是个自恋狂 Göring is, above all things, a narcissist.
他唯一关心的是建设德国 然后成为她的领袖 The only thing he cares about is building Germany up and then becoming her leader.
他不关心犹太人 He does not care about the Jews.
所以他不介意他们死去 So he is fine with them dying.
他也不介意 And he is fine with them not.
赫尔曼·戈林唯一关心的是赫尔曼·戈林 The only thing Hermann Göring cares about is Hermann Göring.
这听起来像一个献身的人吗 Does that sound like a man who dedicates
导致整个种族的灭绝? himself to the extermination of an entire race?
凯利医生 我真的很感谢你的体贴 Well, Dr. Kelly, I really appreciate your thoughtfulness
但我不得不承认这很难让人相信 on this, but I have to admit it is very hard to believe.
你想带着一些假设走进法庭吗? You want to walk into that courtroom with a handful of assumptions?
很好 Fine.
但他会把你当早餐吃掉 But he will eat you for breakfast.
我想为我之前的情绪失控道歉 感觉好多了 I would like to apologize for my outbursts earlier. It felt much better.
我觉得机会来了 I felt a chance to be shifting.
你呢? 你好像有什么心事 And you? Something seems to be troubling you.
我很好 I am fine.
这一切很快就会结束的 This will all be over soon.
火焰模式明显改善 Blaze mode is markedly improved.
他告诉我们他已经开始为自己的辩护做准备了 He told us he has begun making arrangements for his defense.
我觉得好像是他第一次向我伸出援手 I feel as though for the first time he has reached out to me.
他把毛巾的褶边扯下来做绳子 He ripped out the hem of his towel to make a rope.
他把内裤塞进嘴里 这样他就不会尖叫了 然后... He stuffed his underwear into his mouth so he wouldn't scream and then...
他身体前倾 显然很有决心 just leaned forward, apparently with a great deal of determination.
你没想到会发生这样的事吗? You didn't see any of this coming?
他告诉我他好多了 He told me he was doing better.
告诉你了 Told you.
我应该让他们活下去 I'm supposed to keep them alive.
我再找个医生来 I'm bringing in another doctor.
你的一些病人需要一个公司和第二意见 A firm and a second opinion is required for some of your patients.
吉尔伯特医生今天下午到 你向他汇报 Dr. Gilbert arrives this afternoon. You will brief him.
你对自杀怎么看? How do you feel about suicide?
是懦夫最后的避难所 The last refuge of cowards, yeah.
一个绝望之人的最后举动是什么? And the last act of a desperate man?
当然 他所有的例外都是如此 So all his exceptions, of course.
你有麻烦了 You are in trouble.
你为什么这么说? Why would you say that?
新医生 新检查赖死后 他们就不再信任你了 A new doctor, new tests. Since Lai died, they no longer trust you.
你自己的吗? Your own?
道格拉斯 当你身居高位时 Douglas, when you are in a position of power,
他们会一直跟着你 they will always come after you.
你必须保护好自己 You have to protect yourself.
我为什么要保护自己不受盟友的伤害? Why would I have to protect myself from my allies?
就因为一个男人是你的盟友 Just because a man is your ally
不代表他站在你这边 does not mean he is on your side.
我父亲是外交官 我告诉过你吗? My father was a diplomat, did I tell you this?
是的 Yeah.
他被派往非洲 He was posted to Africa.
在那里 他见到了他最好的朋友 And it was there he was to meet his best friend,
一个叫赫尔曼·冯·爱泼斯坦的人 a man named Hermann von Epstein.
我是以他的名字命名的 I was named after him.
是的 Yeah.
我是以犹太人的名字命名的 I was named for a Jew.
我们很爱赫尔曼叔叔 他很有钱 We loved Uncle Hermann so much, he was very rich.
他住在冰霜城堡里 He lived in Frozenstein Castle.
我六岁的时候 And when I was six years old,
他把我全家都搬进去了 he moved my entire family in with him.
你能想象吗? Can you imagine?
住在这样一座城堡里是小孩子的梦想 It was a child's dream to live in such a castle.
我会在大厅里跑来跑去 假装自己是个骑士 I would run down the halls, pretending I was a knight.
我从城垛上往下看 想象着军队列队进攻 I would stare down from the battlements, envisioning armies forming to attack.
赫尔曼叔叔住在顶楼最大最漂亮的房间里 Uncle Hermann, he lived in the largest and most beautiful room on the top floor.
走廊那头 我妈妈有一间卧室 也很漂亮 Down the hall, my mother had a bedroom, also beautiful.
我的父亲 My father,
他住在一楼的一间小卧室里 he lived in a small bedroom on the ground floor.
我才意识到赫尔曼叔叔有多有钱 And I was to realize just how rich Uncle Hermann was.
有钱到可以把我家搬进来 So rich that he could move my family in.
有钱到可以让我父亲住一楼 So rich that he could put my father on the ground floor.
如此富有 只要他想 So rich that whenever he wanted,
他可以穿过大厅 he could walk down the hall
好好享受我的母亲 and enjoy my mother.
就因为一个男人是你的盟友 Just because a man is your ally
不代表他站在你这边 does not mean he is on your side.
你觉得赫尔曼很有想象力吗? You found Hermann going to be imaginative?
我没发现他是那样的 测试做到了 I didn't find him to be that way. The test did.
这就是第二意见的作用 Well, that is what a second opinion is for.
这让我们想到了鲁道夫·赫斯 Which brings us to Rudolph Hess.
我倾向于相信他的健忘症是真的 I'm inclined to believe that his amnesia is genuine.
你是说他忘了自己是纳粹的那部分吗? You mean the part where he forgets about being a Nazi?
好吧 听着 Okay, look, Dr.
凯莉 我不是来冒犯你的 好吗? Kelly, I'm not here to step on your toes, okay?
我将与一位合著者分享研究成果 I'll share research with a co- author.
什么的合著者? Co- author of what?
你不必对我忸怩作态 我们来这里的原因是一样的 You don't have to play coy with me. We're both here for the same reason.
现在 有两本关于纳粹最高指挥官的书即将进入市场 Now, two books about the Nazi high command that's going to cut into the market.
我建议我们一起写 I say we write it together.
祝你考试顺利 Good luck with your tests.
她进去了 She was in.
谢谢你! Thank you.
来看看彼得·海恩斯 Come and see Peter Haines.
哦 她很震惊 Oh, she was, uh, astounded.
教我这个把戏 Teach me this trick.
它是靠耳朵的硬币吗? Is it a coin by the ear?
是的 是的 教我这个把戏 这样我也能吓到她 Yeah, yeah. Teach me this trick so I, too, can astound her.
我把银元给了你女儿 I gave my silver dollar to your daughter.
这是世界上最简单的把戏 It's the simplest trick in the world.
它能起作用是因为 你知道 人们愿意相信 And it works because, you know, people want to believe.
你拿着美元说 Well, you hold up the dollar and you say,
嘿 伙计们 这是一枚普通的银币 Hey, folks, here is an ordinary average silver dollar.
然后把它放在另一只手上 And you put it in your other hand.
你专注于它 You focus on it.
但实际上 它就在这里 But really, it's right here.
你把它放在右手里 You palm it in your right hand.
手掌吗? Palm it?
把它放在这两个手指之间 You put it between these two fingers.
你用手掌包住它 You wrap your palm around it.
但是你把注意力集中在左手上 But you focus on your left hand.
你能感觉到硬币在里面 它的重量 And you feel the coin in there, the weight of it.
如果你相信 And if you believe it,
然后他们就会相信了 then they'll believe it.
然后你就… And then you just, uh,
你把手伸到耳朵后面 well, you reach behind the ear.
唵嘛呢叭咪吽! ( 咒语 ) Abracadabra!
唵嘛呢叭咪吽是什么? What is abracadabra?
这是个神奇的词 Uh, it's a magic word.
它给人一种宇宙重量的错觉 It gives the illusion of a cosmic weight.
而且它总是必须是唵嘛呢叭咪吽的 And it always must be abracadabra.
不 它可以是任何东西 No, it can be anything.
它可以很快 It can be presto.
我想我更喜欢恐怖片 I think I prefer abracadabra.
这么说这个把戏是你父亲教你的? So it was your father who taught you this trick?
我的父亲吗? My father?
不 No.
你说得好像这是不可思议的 You say that like it is unthinkable.
我父亲很满足 And my father was content to
买下他的生意 表现出愉快的性格 buy his trade and display a cheerful disposition.
他是一个没有成就的人 He was a man of no accomplishment.
但你相信 But you believe
你注定会得到更多 you are destined for more.
你想成为一个伟大的人 You want to be known as a great man.
是 Yes.
我就是你的票 And I am your ticket.
你将以研究纳粹的伟大学者的身份回到美国 You will return to America as the great scholar of the Nazis.
我也会有一个小技巧来打动我的女儿 And I will have a trick to impress my daughter
试验结束后 when this trial is done.
别带我去见他了 Stop taking me with you to see him.
我不想这么晚打扰你 I didn't want to bother you so late.
我经常不带我去见他 I've been seeing him a lot without me.
你在干什么 医生? What are you doing, doc?
想学点什么? Trying to learn something?
你确定这事还在继续吗? Are you sure that's what this is still about?
晚安 豪伊 Good night, Howie.
你要为自己辩护吗 赫尔曼? Are you going to defend yourself, Hermann?
哦 不过现在还不算太晚 Oh, but not too late now.
我是认真的 I'm serious.
你有朋友吗 医生? Have you friends, doctor?
我觉得这个词对我们来说太简单了 I think that word is a little too simple for what we are.
但你是以朋友的身份问我的吗? But are you asking me this as a friend?
我是 I am.
明天 当我进行辩护时 Tomorrow, when I enter my plea,
我将宣读一份声明 I will read a statement.
我要说 I am going to say
我为我的行为承担全部责任 that I assume all responsibility for my actions.
但我拒绝 I will refuse, however,
为他人的行为承担责任 to accept responsibility for acts committed by others
我没有意识到 that I was unaware of
我是不会同意的 and I would not have approved of.
但我是 But I did.
我为我的国家做了 I did for my country.
告诉我你没有为你的孩子做同样的事 Tell me you have not done the same for yours.
他们告诉我可以在这里找到你 They told me I could find you here.
七个小时后 In seven hours,
整个世界都会关注这个房间 the whole world is going to be focused on this room.
就是这里 This is it.
这就是一切 This is everything.
这是格哈德计划明天读的声明 This is the statement that Gerhard plans on reading tomorrow.
谢谢你! Thank you.
尊敬的各位 May it please your honors,
特权 the privilege
开启历史上第一次审判 of opening the first trial in history
罪名是危害世界和平 for crimes against the peace of the world
责任重大 imposes a grave responsibility.
我们试图谴责和惩罚的错误 The wrongs which we seek to condemn and punish
都是经过算计的 have been so calculated,
如此恶毒 如此毁灭性 so malignant and so devastating
这种文明不能容忍他们被忽视 that civilization cannot tolerate their being ignored
因为我们无法忍受它们的重复 because we cannot survive their being repeated.
在被告席上 In the prisoner's dock
20多个破碎的男人说 said 20- odd broken men,
我们会展示给他们看 we will show them
成为种族仇恨的活生生的象征 to be living symbols of racial hatreds,
恐怖主义和暴力 of terrorism and violence,
还有傲慢 and of the arrogance
以及权力的残酷 and cruelty of power.
文明负担不起任何东西 Civilization can afford nothing
和这些人在一起 这些力量 with the men in whom these forces
现在岌岌可危的生存 now precariously survive.
战争不再是局部的 Wars are no longer local.
所有现代战争 All modern wars
最终演变成世界大战 become world wars, eventually.
没有一个大国能置身事外 And none of the big nations can stay out.
但是最后一步 But the ultimate step
避免周期性战争 in avoiding periodic wars
在一个国际无法无天的体系中 in a system of international lawlessness
就是使政治家对法律负责 is to make statesmen responsible for the law.
让我说清楚 And let me make clear
虽然这项法律最初是用来对付德国侵略者的 that while this law is first applied against German aggressors,
它必须谴责任何其他国家的侵略 it must condemn aggression by any other nation,
包括现在坐在这里接受审判的人 including those who sit here now in judgment.
我们有能力去做 We are able to do away
国内暴政 with domestic tyranny
暴力和侵略 and violence and aggression
被当权者践踏自己人民的权利 by those in power against the rights of their own people
只有当我们创造了所有的人 only when we make all men
法律可保 insurable to the law.
赫尔曼·克林 Hermann Kering,
被告必须认罪 the defendants are to plead guilty
或者无罪 or not guilty
对他们的指控 to the charges against them.
他们将依次进行 They will proceed in turn
在被告席上 to a point in the dock
麦克风的对面 opposite to the microphone.
我是赫尔曼·威廉·克林 I am Hermann Wilhelm Kering.
今天我站在法庭和全世界面前 I stand before the court today and the world
我只发誓告诉你... and pledge only to tell...
法庭已作出裁决 The tribunal has reached the decision
被告无权做陈述 that the defendants are not entitled to make a statement.
他们将被允许在法庭上发言 They will be permitted to address the court
在他们被判刑之前 prior to their sentencing.
作为德国的帝国元帅 As Reichsmarschall of Germany.
你不是帝国元帅 You are not Reichsmarschall here.
你只是赫尔曼·开云 囚犯 You are only Hermann Kering, the prisoner.
你是认罪还是不认罪? Do you plead guilty or not guilty?
是的 舒蒂格 Yes, Schutig.
艾米! Emmy!
伊娃! Eva!
艾米! Emmy!
发生了什么事? What happened?
发生了什么事? 他们在哪里? What happened? Where are they?
怎么啦? 他们在哪里? What? Where are they?
他们拿走了 They took them.
谁? Who?
美国人 Americans.
你在耍我吧 You've got to be shitting me.
谢谢 我需要它 Thanks. I'm going to need it.
他们逮捕了埃米·格林 They arrested Emmy Gering
她被怀疑与丈夫共谋盗窃艺术品 on suspicion of complicity with her husband's art thefts.
孩子去了修女那里 The kid goes to the nuns.
禁止接触 No contact allowed.
他们是妇女和儿童 They're women and children.
是的 Yeah.
长官 我们应该做得更好 Sir, we're supposed to be better than this.
这不是我能控制的 It's out of my hands.
不用谢 And you're welcome.
顺便说一下 By the way,
你怎么知道她藏在哪里? how did you know where she was hiding?
埃塔又为你演奏了吗? Did Etta play for you again?
她是 She did.
她很有才华 She's very talented.
她喜欢你 She likes you.
你有信吗? Do you have the letters?
不 No.
不幸的是 没有信 No letters, unfortunately.
没有? No?
下次 Next time.
这是菜单 医生 Here's the menu, Doctor.
你只是在说我的家人 You're just talking about my family.
啊 是的 Ah, yes.
这很好 听到那件事我很难过 That's fine. I'm sorry to hear about that.
这很好 That's fine.
他们的被捕? Their arrest?
你的妻子和女儿五天前被捕了 Your wife and daughter were arrested five days ago.
他没告诉你? He didn't tell you?
嘿 嘿 Hey. Hey.
那是什么鬼东西? What the hell was that?
那是我对病人的坦诚 That was me being honest with my patients.
你什么时候也应该试试 Something you ought to try sometime.
你在那里毁了他 You destroyed him in there.
所以呢? So?
嘿! 嘿! Hey! Hey!
耶稣基督 Jesus Christ.
你们是心理健康专家! You're mental health professionals!
看在上帝的份上! For Christ's sake!
吉尔伯特医生 要我逮捕凯利医生吗? Doctor Gilbert, would you like me to place Doctor Kelly under arrest?
不 先生 No, sir.
那就滚出我的办公室! Then get out of my goddamn office!
全体起立! All rise!
请法廷 May it please the court,
控方现将以下录像作为证据 the prosecution would now like to enter into evidence the following film footage.
你即将看到的图像从未公开展示过 The images you are about to see have never before been shown in public.
这部电影应该提供一个简短的解释 This film should offer a brief explanation
集中营这个词的含义 of what the words concentration camp implied.
这些是最大的集中营和监狱的所在地 These are the locations of the largest concentration and prison camps
在纳粹政权统治下的德国和被占领的欧洲 maintained throughout Germany and occupied Europe under the Nazi regime.
巴顿将军的第四装甲师 The 4th Armored Division of General Patton's
第3军在四月初解放了这个营地 3rd Army liberated this camp early in April.
他们看到了木棚里沾满石灰的尸体 They see the woodshed where lime- covered bodies are
层层堆叠 臭气熏天 stacked in layers and the stench is overpowering.
第1集团军第3装甲师解放的诺德豪森奴隶劳动营 Slave labor camp at Nordhausen liberated by the 3rd Armored Division, 1st Army.
至少有三千名政治犯死于残暴的 At least 3,000 political prisoners died here at the brutal hands of
并赦免了集中营里的德国罪犯 SS troops and pardon German criminals who were the camp's daughter.
诺德豪森一直是不适合工作的奴隶的仓库 Nordhausen has been a depository for slaves found unfit for work in
地下B-弹工厂和其他德国营地和工厂 the underground B-bomb plants and in other German camps and factories.
尸体中间是虚弱得无法移动的人类骨架 Amid the corpses are human skeletons too weak to move.
我们的医疗营没人能工作两天 None of our medical battalions work two days and
晚上包扎伤口 给药 nights binding wounds and giving medications.
但对于晚期的饥饿和肺结核病例 往往无法治愈 But for advanced cases of starvation and tuberculosis there are often no cures.
幸存者被送往盟军医院接受治疗 Survivors are shown being evacuated for treatment in Allied hospitals.
我是杰克·H·泰勒中尉 来自加州好莱坞的美国海军 I'm Lieutenant Senior Grade Jack H. Taylor, U.S. Navy, from Hollywood, California.
信不信由你 这是我第一次拍电影 Believe it or not, this is the first time I've ever been in the movies.
我是12月1日被俘的 I was captured December 1st.
我被带到毛特豪森集中营 一个灭绝营 I was taken to this Mauthausen concentration locker, an extermination camp,
在那里 我们一直在挨饿 挨打 被杀 而我却没有被强迫 where we have been starving and beaten and killed, forcibly my turn hadn't come.
有五六种不同的方式 There were five or six ways by cast, by
射击 殴打 对抗棍棒殴打 shooting, by beating, against beating with clubs,
通过暴露 也就是光着身子站在雪地里48小时 by exposure, that is, standing out in the snow naked for 48 hours
在大冬天的时候被泼冷水 and having cold water thrown on them in the middle of winter,
饥饿 狗 从100英尺高的悬崖上推下去 starvation, dogs, and pushing over a 100- foot cliff.
这都是真的 已经看到了 现在正在报道 This is all true, has been seen, and is now being reported.
囚犯的肚子上纹着国籍和监狱编号 Nationalities and prison numbers are tattooed on the stomachs of the inmates.
在官方报告中 布痕瓦尔德集中营被称为灭绝工厂 In the official report, the Buchenwald camp is termed an extermination factory.
在火葬场外发现了一具叠在一起的尸体 Bodies stacked one upon the other were found outside the crematory.
尸体处理场 里面是火葬场的烤炉 The body disposal plant. Inside are the ovens which gave the crematorium
每10小时最多可处理约400具尸体 a maximum disposal capacity of about 400 bodies per 10- hour day.
在纳粹最古老的战俘营之一慕尼黑附近的一辆汽车 A car near München, one of the oldest of the Nazi prison camp.
这是解放者在大楼里发现的东西 This is what the liberators found inside the building.
一条整齐的道路上挂着囚犯的衣服 Hanging an orderly road were the clothes of prisoners
在致命的毒气室里窒息而死 who had been suffocated in a lethal gas chamber.
在这个借口下 他们被说服脱掉了衣服 They had been persuaded to remove their clothing under the pretext
洗澡时提供了毛巾和肥皂 of taking a shower for which towels and soap were provided.
行星环境如此恶劣 以至于重型设备 Planetary conditions were so appalling that heavy equipment
为了加快清理工作的速度 必须把它带进来 had to be brought in to speed the work of cleaning up.
这是卑尔根-贝尔森 This was Bergen-Belsen.
纠正过来 Righted so.
这怎么可能? How is it possible?
希姆莱 Himmler.
希姆莱不是第二指挥官 Himmler wasn't second in command.
你有1200个集中营? You were 1200 camps?
我怎么能相信他不知道? What am I supposed to believe that he didn't know?
任何人都可以伪造暴行 Anyone can fake an atrocity.
所以你是说这部电影是假的? 这就是你的辩护? So you're saying the film was a fake? That's your defense?
你想让我说什么? What would you have me say?
就说实话一次怎么样? How about the truth for once?
好让你跑去告诉杰克逊吗? So you can run and tell Jackson?
我的朋友 你的虚伪令人震惊 My friend, your hypocrisy is stunning.
我虚伪吗? My hypocrisy?
你以为美国的子弹和炸弹不会杀人吗? You think American bullets and bombs don't kill people?
只要按一下按钮就能蒸发十五万日本人 You vaporize 150,000 Japanese at the touch of a button
你竟敢对我的罪行进行审判吗? and you presume to stand in judgment on me for all crimes?
我们完全有权为自己辩护 We had every right to defend ourselves.
你怎么在别人的土地上为自己辩护? How do you defend yourself on someone else's soil?
美国和轰炸战争是有区别的 There's a difference between us bombing war
工厂和平民作为附带损害而死亡 factories and civilians dying as collateral damage
而你建造了1200个人类屠宰场旨在灭绝整个种族 and you building 1200 human slaughterhouses designed to exterminate an entire race.
你知道的! And you know it!
你认为战争是什么? What do you think war is?
不是我今天想的那样 Not what I thought today.
你觉得俄国人会对德国战俘做什么? What do you think the Russians do to German prisoners of war?
你有你的自由 而我是囚犯因为你赢得了 而我们输了 You have your freedom and I am a prisoner because you've earned and we lost.
不是因为你道德高尚! Not because you are morally superior!
这场审判将在15年后成为一场闹剧 This trial will be a farce in 15 years.
伟大的征服者 而不是杀人犯 Great conquerors and not thought of as murderers.
成吉思汗 亚历山大大帝...你不是亚历山大大帝! Genghis Khan, Alexander the Great... You're not Alexander the Great!
你就是个被关在牢房里的胖子 You are a fat man in a cell.
你知道我犯了个错误 And you know I have made a mistake.
你命中注定不会得到更多 You are not destined for more.
我想 你会过得不开心的 You will have an unhappy life, I think.
一切都会被这件事蒙上阴影 It will all be overshadowed by this.
和我一起度过的时光 By the time spent with me.
你会写你的书试图重温它 You will write your volumes trying to relive it.
这是你一生中唯一的一刻 The one moment in your life.
当你真正站在伟大的一方 When you actually stood with greatness.
你以为你是个了不起的人? You think you're a great man?
你认为这就是你的遗产吗? You think that's your legacy?
至少我会有一个 At least I will have one.
你不会在这个世界上留下任何痕迹 You will leave no mark on this world.
我就是书! I am the book!
你只是一个脚注 You are merely a footnote.
他们会杀了你的 They're gonna kill you.
他们会吊着你的脖子直到你尿裤子 They're gonna hang you by the neck until you piss yourself.
直到死 And die.
你的妻子将成为寡妇 Your wife will be a widow.
你的女儿将成为孤儿 Your daughter will be an orphan.
你也会这样对自己 And you will have done that to yourself.
我知道你是谁 I know who you are.
你喜欢什么? What do you like?
你不会想知道的 You don't wanna know.
杰克逊要让他后天出庭作证吗? Jackson's putting him on the stand day after tomorrow?
杰克逊会被杀的 Jackson's gonna get killed.
你为什么这么说? Why do you say that?
因为加里已经准备好了 Because Gary is ready for him.
他已经为我们所有人做好了准备 He was ready for all of us.
你为什么不跟我说说呢? Why don't you tell me all about it?
快看! Look at that!
你和赫尔曼的私人谈话戈林上了头版 Your private conversations with Hermann Göring made the front page.
你完了 You're finished.
我今早签了你的调任令 I signed your transfer order this morning.
你将被送回美国 在那里你将被遣散 You're to be sent back to the states where you'll be discharged.
你最后一次让我和这个办公室丢脸了 You have embarrassed me and this office for the last time.
对不起 上校 I'm sorry, Colonel.
你应该得到更好的 You deserve better.
是的 我是 Yes, I did.
告诉你 我们要释放戈林的妻子和女儿 And just so you know, we are releasing Göring's wife and daughter.
你是对的 我们做得更好 You were right. We are better than that.
谢谢你 先生 Thank you, sir.
你的火车五点钟开 Your train's at five o'clock.
别误会 但我再也不想见到你了 Don't take this the wrong way, but I never wanna see you again.
想说再见吗? Care to say goodbye?
你是认真的吗? Did you really mean it?
你说杰克逊没机会了? You said Jackson had no chance?
确定 不管怎样 这都只是在镜头前的一场大秀 Sure. It's all just a big show for the cameras anyway.
所以明天发生什么都不重要 So it doesn't matter what happens tomorrow.
如果戈林打败了杰克逊 那就这样吧 If Göring beats Jackson, so be it.
是啊 我不相信 Yeah, I don't believe that.
你也不知道 Neither do you.
你比地球上任何人都了解他 You know more about him than anybody on Earth.
是的 没错 我做的事情 Yeah, that's right. I do.
你知道 我和他相处了几千个小时 You know, I spent thousands of hours with him.
我做了几百个测试 I run hundreds of tests.
你知道他和我们有什么不同吗? You know what sets him apart from us?
没什么 Nothing.
我知道 I know.
你知道吗? You know?
因为我也是其中之一 Because I'm one of them.
你在说什么? What are you talking about?
我是德国人 医生 I'm German, Doc.
我在慕尼黑长大 I grew up in Munich.
你在底特律长大 你说你妈妈会说德语 You grew up in Detroit. You said your mom spoke German.
她是 She did.
但是我的父亲 But my father.
因为我在这里长大 Because I was raised here.
你是一名美国士兵 You're an American soldier.
你为什么要离开? Why'd you leave?
你认为为什么? Why do you think?
你是犹太人 You're a Jew.
就是那个金发碧眼的 You know, with the blonde hair and the blue eyes,
我从来没有遇到过太多麻烦 I never got a hassle much.
我父亲是个爱国者 My father was a patriot.
他在第一次世界大战中为德国而战 He fought for Germany in the First World War.
我们爱这个国家 We loved this country.
最后他意识到我们必须离开 Eventually he realized we had to get out.
你做得怎么样? How'd you do?
问题是如何获得旅行签证 The problem was getting travel visas.
其他国家不会接纳我们 Other countries wouldn't take us.
我爸爸有个表亲在纽约帮忙 My dad had a cousin in New York who helped.
我们终于在1940年拿到了签证 We finally got our visa in 1940.
但是我们的钱只够买一张出去的票 But we only had enough money for one ticket out.
我的妹妹 玛戈... My little sister, Margo...
她才11岁 所以… She was only 11, so...
我父母不希望她独自旅行 My parents didn't want her traveling alone.
直到他们派我来 Until they sent me.
天啊 一路上都晕船 Boy, how seasick the whole way.
当我降落时 我和我的表弟住在一起 When I landed, I stayed with my cousin.
当纳粹入侵荷兰时 When the Nazis invaded Holland,
我的家人没有出现 my family never showed up.
那是我去底特律的时候 That's when I went to Detroit.
我在一家工具厂找到了一份学徒的工作 I got a job as an apprentice in a tool factory
当时英国人在收音机里收听棒球节目 when the English listened to baseball on the radio.
珍珠港事件发生后 When Pearl Harbor happened,
我是第一个 I was the first one
在征兵办公室应征入伍 in the recruitment office to enlist.
你知道他们怎么说吗? You know what they said?
他们带不走我 They couldn't take me.
因为我不是美国公民 Because I wasn't an American citizen.
我得等着应征入伍 I'd have to wait to get drafted.
于是我是 So I did.
我等啊等啊 I waited, and I waited.
两年来 我每天都检查邮箱 I checked the mailbox every day for two years.
1944年6月6日 June 6th, 1944.
登陆日在奥马哈海滩登陆 Landed at Omaha Beach on D- Day.
四年前 Four years earlier.
我离开了这个国家 I left this country,
半夜里又害怕又孤单 scared and alone in the middle of the night.
但我带着一支该死的军队回来了 But I came back with a goddamn army.
我找到玛戈了 I found Margo.
她在瑞士 She's in Switzerland.
她现在16岁了 She's 16 now.
她和亲戚住在一起 She's living with relatives.
她很好 She's good.
她做到了 She made it.
还有她的父母 And her folks.
记录显示 The records show that
我的父母于1942年8月12日抵达奥斯威辛 my parents arrived at Auschwitz August 12th, 1942.
集中营于1945年1月27日解放 The camp was liberated January 27th, 1945.
没有他们的踪迹 No sign of them.
纳粹对我们的所作所为有个名字 The Nazis had a name for what they did to us.
最终解决方案 The Final Solution.
就像我们曾经一样 Like we were
某种挥之不去的谜题 some kind of nagging puzzle
他们最终找到了解决的方法 that they finally figured out how to solve.
对不起 豪伊 So sorry, Howie.
我不想告诉史崔克 I don't want to tell Stryker.
我想告诉他 I want to tell him
就在他们把绳子套在他脖子上之前 right before they put that rope around his neck,
我要告诉那个混蛋他被关在犹太人的牢房里 I'm going to tell that piece of shit that he was confining in a Jew.
你说没关系 You say it doesn't matter
明天会发生什么? what happens tomorrow.
它很重要 It matters.
你知道的更多 More you know
对我来说很重要 matters to me,
致我的家人： to my family,
整个德国 to all of Germany.
戈林必须倒下 Göring has to fall.
你觉得他会打败杰克逊吗? You think he's going to beat Jackson?
唐 请 Don, please.
做点什么吧 Do something about it.
我不能 I can't.
你不能什么? You can't what?
我只是个心理医生 I'm just a shrink.
你想知道为什么会发生在这里吗? You want to know why it happened here?
人们听之任之 People let it happen.
因为他们等到一切都太迟了才站出来 Because they didn't stand up until it was too late.
祝你一路平安 医生 Have a safe trip home, Doc.
是的 先生 当然 Yes, sir. Of course.
不,我...我完全理解 No, I... I completely understand.
谢谢你! Thank you.
该死的 Son of a gun.
杜鲁门刚刚任命弗雷德里克·文森为最高法院首席大法官 Truman's just named Frederick Vinson Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.
是啊 反正我也不想要那份工作 Yeah, I didn't want the job anyway.
谁会? Who would?
欢迎上来 Welcome's up.
你这是在步入陷阱 You're walking into a trap.
凯莉医生 我以为你已经释怀了 Dr. Kelly, I was under the impression you'd been relieved.
让戈林出庭作证给了他想要的一切 Putting Göring on the stand gives him everything he wants.
这就是他当初投降的原因 It's why he surrendered in the first place.
他在世界舞台上拯救帝国的最后机会 His last chance to redeem the Reich on the world stage.
我今早在报纸上看到了这些 After what I read in the paper this morning,
我已经不在乎你怎么想了 I don't believe I care what you think anymore.
你打不过他的 You can't beat him.
查尔斯! Charles!
没有帮助是不行的 Not without help.
这是我掌握的关于他的一切 This is everything I have on him.
私人文件 私下谈话 Private files, off- the- book conversations.
我比世界上任何人都更了解这个人 I know more about this man than anyone else on the planet.
都在这里 And it's all in here.
你怎么会有这个? Why do you have this?
我打算写一本书 I was gonna write a book.
我要出人头地 Make something of myself.
好了 It's okay.
你真的觉得我打不过他吗? So you really think I can't beat him?
诚实? Honestly?
我不知道 I don't know.
我本来是要当首席大法官的 You know, I was gonna be Chief Justice.
当我回来的时候 如果球场上有我的位置 我就很幸运了 I'll be lucky if there's a place on the court for me when I return.
六个小时前 我从军队退伍了 As of six hours ago, I was discharged from the army.
我们没什么可做的了 长官 There's nothing left for us to do, sir.
还是去结束战争吧 Might as well go finish the war.
伎俩就是利用他的虚荣心来对付他 The trick is to use his vanity against him.
他是帝国元帅 He is the Reich Marshall.
帝国元帅永远不会错 And the Reich Marshall is never wrong.
你打不过他的 You can't beat him.
把他带到这里的每一个决定 Every decision that's led him to this place
必须是正确的 has to be the right one.
就像他不想说的那样 So as much as he won't want to talk about
集中营和党卫军以及最终的解决方案 the camps and the SS and the final solution,
你可以让他承认 you can make him own them.
凯利是对的 Kelly's right.
让他承认签了那些命令 Get him to admit to signing those orders.
你会得到他的 And you'll have him.
我要他 I'll have him.
这是你的一天 This is your day.
你准备好了 You're ready.
不知道 先生 No idea, sir.
杰克逊法官 你准备好了吗? Justice Jackson, are you ready?
控方现在传唤赫尔曼·戈林出庭作证 The prosecution now calls Hermann Göring to the stand.
郑重声明 你有什么疑问吗 For the record, is there any doubt in your mind
阿道夫·希特勒死了? that Adolf Hitler is dead?
我毫不怀疑 I have no doubt.
所以你知道 So you are aware
这使你成为唯一能向我们解释的活人 that this makes you the only living man who can expound to us
纳粹党真正的目的 the true purposes of the Nazi party
以及领导层的内部运作? and the inner workings of its leadership?
我很清楚这一点 先生 I am perfectly aware of this, sir.
你们党从一开始就打算推翻魏玛共和国 Your party from the very beginning intended to overthrow the Weimar Republic.
那是我们坚定的意图 That was our firm intention.
搞什么鬼? What the hell?
一旦掌权 And upon coming to power,
你立即废除了德国的议会政府 you immediately abolished parliamentary government in Germany.
我们发现不再需要它了 We found it to be no longer necessary.
那是因为你认为人们没有自治的能力吗? Is that because you believe people are not capable of self- government?
我们是人民选举出来的 We were elected by the people
并给予变革的授权 and given a mandate for change.
以前存在的制度把德国带到了毁灭的边缘 The systems that had previously existed had brought Germany to the verge of ruin.
老总统罗斯福说 The old president of Roosevelt said
欧洲有一些特定的民族 there are certain peoples in Europe
他们抛弃了民主 who have forsaken democracy
不是因为他们不希望这样 not because they did not wish for it,
而是因为民主产生了太软弱的人 but because democracy had brought forth men who were too weak.
你上台后 After you came to power,
您认为有必要镇压所有反对党 对吗? you regarded it necessary to suppress all opposition parties, correct?
我们发现有必要不再允许这里有反对意见 We found it necessary to no longer permit opposition here.
你也认为有必要立即建立集中营? And you also considered it immediately necessary to establish concentration camps?
建立集中营是为了对付共产党及其暴力行为 The camps were set up as a measure against the communists and their violence.
所以有必要为他们建立一个营地 So it was necessary to erect a camp for them,
经营两三个营地 类似这样 run two or three camps, something like this.
你还必须有特定的群体 You also had to have certain groups
执行命令 必要时为你而战 对吗? to carry out orders and fight for you if necessary, right?
某些群体...举个例子 如果你想杀某些人 Certain groups... Well, for example, if you wanted certain people killed,
你得有个组织来杀他们 you had to have some organization that would kill them.
是的 德国的政治是这样的 Yeah, Germany had this level of political
你在其他任何国家都能找到的警察 police that you would find in any other country.
冲锋队和党卫军是执行这些命令的组织 And the SA and the SS were the organizations that carried out these orders
在肉体层面上与人打交道 不是吗? and dealt with people on a physical level, were they not?
冲锋队从来没有接到过杀人的命令 The SA never received orders to kill anybody.
党卫军也没有 在我那个年代没有 Neither did the SS, not in my time.
在一定程度上 我对它没有任何影响 Beyond a certain point, I had no influence on it.
党卫军实施了逮捕 The SS carried out arrests.
他们负责把人运送到集中营 They handled the transportation of people to the concentration camps.
你能回忆不起来吗 Can you not recall a time
当党卫军开始执行任务时 when the SS began to perform the function
充当纳粹党执行者的角色? of acting as the executor of the Nazi party?
这对我来说很难解释 It would be very difficult for me to explain
不管党卫军或盖世太保是否活跃 to an outsider whether the SS or whether the Gestapo may or may not be active.
试一试 Try.
也许随着警察来的越来越多 Perhaps as the police came more and more
落入希姆莱手中 into the hands of Himmler,
预期可能已经改变 expectations may have changed.
当然 众所周知 一些党卫军部队是 And, of course, it is well known that some SS units were
看守营地 后来执行一些警察职能 guarding the camps and later performed some police functions.
在集中营里执行其他任务吗? And carried out other functions in the camps?
你指的是什么功能? To what functions do you refer?
他们执行了集中营的所有功能 不是吗? They carried out all of the functions of the camps, didn't they?
如果有党卫军守卫营地 If an SS unit was guarding a camp,
党卫军领袖是集中营的指挥官 and an SS leader was the camp commandant,
把它交给理性的人去假设 send it to the rational to assume
他们将执行营地的所有功能 that they would have carried out all of the functions of the camp.
你说过你想要一个强大的德国 You have said that you wanted a strong German state to overcome
凡尔赛的条件 对吗? the conditions of Versailles, is that correct?
我们想要一个强大的德国 不管凡尔赛条约如何 We wanted a strong German state, regardless of Versailles.
第一个被德国吞并的国家 The first country to be absorbed by Germany
是奥地利 但它在第一次世界大战之前并不是德国的一部分 was Austria, but it had not been part of Germany before the First World War,
而且它不是根据凡尔赛条约从德国夺走的 对吗? and it had not been taken from Germany by the Treaty of Versailles, is that correct?
这并不完全正确 That is not entirely correct.
德国占领的第二个领土是波希米亚 然后是摩拉维亚 然后是斯洛伐克 The second territory taken by Germany was Bohemia, then Moravia, and then Slovakia.
这些不是根据凡尔赛条约从德国拿走的 These were not taken from Germany by the Treaty of Versailles,
也不是德国的一部分 nor had they been part of Germany
在第一次世界大战之前 是吗? before the First World War, had they?
这是捷克领土的一部分 These parts of Czech territory
在《凡尔赛条约》签订时并不属于较小的德意志帝国 were not part of the smaller German Reich at the time of the Treaty of Versailles.
然而 在形式上 他们与德意志帝国联合了数百年 However, formally, they were united to the German Reich for hundreds of years.
你还没有回答我的问题 You still have not answered my question.
我已经回答了你的问题 I have answered your question.
如果事实不适合你 If the facts do not suit you,
我能做的很少 there is very little I can do.
你能不回答是或不是吗? Can you not answer yes or no?
时间对你来说可能不像对我们其他人那么重要 Time may not mean quite as much to you as it does to the rest of us.
法官先生 法庭认为证人应该 Mr. Justice, the tribunal thinks the witness ought to
他可以做出他认为正确的解释 be allowed to make what explanations he thinks right.
我相信法庭不会不知道在法庭之外 I trust that the court is not unaware that outside of this courtroom
是一个关于纳粹主义复兴的重大社会问题 is a great social question regarding the revival of Nazism,
宣言的目的之一就是鼓励 and that one of the purposes of declaring is to encourage
并通过现在正在进行的审判来宣传它 and perpetuate it by propaganda from this trial now in process.
证人已在证人席和被告席上进行了收养 This witness has adopted in the witness box and the prisoner's dock
对这个法庭的傲慢和轻蔑态度 给了他 an arrogant and contemptuous attitude towards this tribunal, which is giving him
审判的机会 the opportunity of a trial,
但他从来没给过别人 which he never gave a living soul.
判决有效 法官先生 The ruling stands, Mr. Justice.
我当然必须服从法庭的裁决 I must of course bow to the ruling of the tribunal
我只会要求证人想办法让他的回答简洁明了 and would simply request that the witness find a way to keep his answers succinct.
你能重复一下问题吗? Could you please repeat the question?
他们不是从你身边被夺走的 They were not taken from you
凡尔赛条约 by the Treaty of Versailles,
奥地利在凡尔赛条约中被占领 where of course Austria was taken by the Versailles Treaty
也经过德特兰 and also through Detenland.
因为这两个地区都是德国的领土 For both these territories would have been German territories
为了人民的简单权利 for the simple rights of the people
民族自决 to self- determination.
我觉得这很有趣 I find that interesting,
考虑到你刚刚作证说人们 considering you just testified that people's
自我决定是你夺走的第一件事 self- determination was the first thing you took away.
从一开始 From the very beginning,
你认为把犹太人从德国的经济生活中清除出去 you regarded the elimination of Jews from the economic life of Germany
作为你管辖的四年计划的一部分 对吗? as one phase of the four- year plan under your jurisdiction. Is that correct?
部分正确 Partially correct.
部分 我明白了 Partially. I see.
我想和你们简单回顾一下 I would like to review with you briefly
你在犹太人问题上采取的公开行动 public acts taken by you in reference to the Jewish question.
首先 你是否宣布了纽伦堡法案? First, did you proclaim the Nuremberg Laws?
是的 我是 Yes, I did.
作为国会议长 这是我的职责 As president of the Reichstag, that was my job.
那是什么日子? What date was that?
1935年9月15日 The 15th of September, 1935.
1936年12月的第一天 And on the first day of December 1936,
你们通过了一项法案让德国人被判死刑 you passed an act making it a death penalty for Germans
将财产转移到国外? to transfer property abroad?
这是正确的 That is correct.
那是关于限制外国合同的法令 That was the decree governing restriction on foreign contracts.
1938年4月22日 And on April 22, 1938,
你公布了处罚 you published penalties
在德国境内 within the Reich.
隐瞒 Concealing.
1938年4月26日 Then on April 26, 1938,
你签署了一项法令要求登记 you signed a decree ordering the registration of
所有德国境内外的犹太人财产 all Jewish property inside and outside of Germany.
如果是我签的…然后是1938年11月12日的法令 If it is signed by me... Then a decree on November 12, 1938
对所有犹太人处以10亿马克的罚款 imposing a fine of one billion Reichsmarks for atonement on all Jews.
以及所有对犹太人财产造成的损失 And that all damages caused to Jewish property
1938年的暴动 by the riots of 1938
这里有很多细节 are many details here.
保险公司...以及1940年9月17日的法令 The insurance company... And the decree on the 17th of September 1940
下令扣押在波兰的所有犹太人财产 ordering the sequestration of all Jewish property in Poland.
是啊 在波兰的那个地方 那以前是 Yeah, in that part of Poland that was a former
德国的一个省 并将返回德国 German province and would return to Germany.
命令希姆莱和海德里希 A decree asking Himmler and Heydrich
为最终解决方案制定计划 to make plans for the final solution
犹太人的问题 of the Jewish question.
这是不正确的 That is not correct.
我很清楚那项法令 I know that decree very well.
我要求你表演一下 I ask that you show
文件编号1110 the document number 1110,
展品编号USA509 exhibit number USA509.
我认为这应该写入记录 所以 I think it should be read into the record so
我们可能对它的翻译没有异议 we may have no argument about its translation.
那份文件被签署了 That document is signed
是你 不是吗? by you, is it not?
这是正确的吗? Is that just correct?
如果我说错了 请纠正我 Please correct me if I am wrong.
作为对1939年1月24日给你的任务的补充 Supplementing the task that was assigned to you on 1- 24- 1939,
哪一个涉及到到达 which dealt with arriving at
通过移民的推进 实际上是撤离 through furtherance of immigration and, in fact, the evacuation.
尽可能有利地解决犹太人问题 A solution of the Jewish problem as advantageous as possible,
我在此指控你 I hereby charge you
做好一切必要的准备工作 with making all necessary preparations in
关于组织和财务问题 regards to organizational and financial matters
为了带来 for bringing about
最终解决方案 a final solution
犹太人的问题 of the Jewish question.
他拿到了 He's got them.
到目前为止我说的对吗? Am I correct so far?
不 你的翻译不对 No, your translation is not correct.
那么请给我们你的翻译 Then please give us your translation.
补充被委托的任务 Supplementing the task which was entrusted
在1939年1月21日的法令中 to you in the decree dated January 21, 1939
通过移民和疏散来解决犹太人的问题 to solve the Jewish question by immigration and evacuation
以最有利的方式 in the most favorable way possible.
鉴于目前的情况 Given present conditions,
我在此委托你 I hereby commission you
就...进行一切必要的准备 to carry out all necessary preparations with regard to
组织实体和财务观点 organizational substantive and financial viewpoints.
现在 句子是这样的 Now, here is the sentence
对于一个完整的解 for a complete solution,
这不是最终的解决方案 not a final solution,
对于一个总解 for a total solution
犹太人的问题 of the Jewish question.
一个完整的解决方案 A complete and total solution.
完全 总的 是的 Complete and total, yeah.
你想让党卫军首领制定一个完整的解决方案 A complete and total solution you wanted the chief of the SS to enact.
是的 但我想做个解释 Yeah, but I would like to make an explanation.
哦 请说 Oh, please do.
我寄了这封信 I sent this letter
希姆莱和海德里希 to Himmler and to Heydrich
因为距离1939年1月24日的宣言已经过去了18个月 because it was some 18 months now since the declaration of the 24th of January, 1939
海德里希几乎一无所获 and Heydrich had achieved very little.
因此 我责成他加快处理犹太人移民问题的工作 So I charged him to accelerate the task of dealing with the immigration of the Jews.
移民 你说 Immigration, you contend
是关于移民的吗? was about immigration?
第一行就这么说了 It says so in the first line.
这只是第一句话 That's just the first sentence.
这封信接着陈述了我的愿望 The letter goes on to state My desire
彻底解决犹太人的问题 for a complete solution to the Jewish problem
结束了他们的经济影响力 and an end to their financial influence by
他们从德国移民和撤离 their emigration and evacuation from Germany.
你给我看的就是这份文件 It is in this document that you present to me.
还有问题要问证人吗 杰克逊法官? Are there any more questions for the witness, Justice Jackson?
法官先生 Mr. Justice,
证人可以回避吗? is the witness excused?
我有一个问题 I have a question.
法庭的印象是美国人 The tribunal was under the impression the American
检察官今天会对证人进行调查 prosecutor would be examining this witness today.
美国永远是 The United States is always
很高兴收到我们杰出的英国同事的来信 happy to hear from our distinguished colleague from Great Britain.
一会儿就能搞定 It won't take more than a moment.
你向本庭暗示 1942年你对阿道夫·希特勒失去了一些影响力 You've implied to this court that you lost some influence with Adolf Hitler in 1942.
对吗? Is that correct?
我相信是这样的 是的 I believe this to be the case, yes.
但1942年你还是德国帝国元帅 But you were still Reichsmarshal of Germany in 1942.
希特勒的继任者 对吗? Hitler's successor, yes?
是的 我是帝国元帅 Yes, I was the Reichsmarschall.
而你告诉我你完全不知情 And you're telling me that you were totally unaware
三百万犹太人在1942年被谋杀? that three million Jews were murdered in 1942?
我不知道这一点 I was unaware of this.
在1943年 In 1943,
至少有80万犹太人 at least 800,000 Jews
都在集中营里被处决了 were executed in the camps.
你还是帝国元帅 You were still Reichsmarshal
1943年 对吗? in 1943, is that correct?
这是正确的 That is correct.
在1944年 In 1944,
另外还有80万犹太人 an additional 800,000 Jews
死在集中营里 died in the camps.
你还是帝国元帅 You were still Reichsmarshal
1944年 对吗? in 1944, is that correct?
这是正确的 That is correct.
在1945年 In 1945,
25万 250,000,
据估计 an estimated
总共600万犹太人 six million Jews in total,
以及苏联和波兰公民 as well as Soviet and Polish citizens,
罗马尼人 Romani people,
艺术家 科学家 作家 artists, scientists, writers,
记者 摄影师 journalists, photographers,
电影人 被杀的人 filmmakers, people killed,
不是在战斗中 not in combat,
不是在敌人的炮火中 not in enemy fire,
但被德国政府灭绝了 but exterminated by the state of Germany.
你曾是帝国元帅的国家 The state which you were the Reichsmarshal of,
你们国家的最高政治职位 the preeminent political post of your country.
你认为 You contend
你对此一无所知 that you had no knowledge.
至少给我这个 At least give me this.
知道我们现在所知道的 Knowing what we know now,
知道发生了什么 knowing what happened
600万犹太人 to six million Jews,
我不得不问 I have to ask,
你还会跟随我吗? would you still follow
元首阿道夫·希特勒? the Fuhrer, Adolf Hitler?
是的 Yeah.
艾菲尔 Eiffel.
秩序! 秩序! Order! Order!
希特勒万岁 Heil Hitler.
没有其他问题了 No further questions.
我认为这是今天休会的好地方 I think this is as good a place as any to adjourn for the day.
哦,很好 Oh, great.
绝对好 Absolutely great.
我活了下来 I survived.
你做到了 You did.
你是对的 You were right.
我打不过他 I couldn't beat him.
没有帮助是不行的 Not without help.
格林无法对抗元首 Gering cannot stand against the Fuhrer.
宝贵的信息 医生 Invaluable information, doctor.
那现在怎么办? So what now?
格林倒下了 他们也倒下了 As Gering falls, so do they all.
我们会没事的 We'll be okay.
在这里 Here.
你了吗? You off?
还有一件事你要做 One more thing you have to do.
你帮助了他们 不是吗? You helped them, didn't you?
我做到了 I did.
我离开 I'm leaving.
离开? Leaving?
要回家了 Going home.
我是来告别的 I've come to say goodbye.
我们现在该怎么办 医生? What do we do now, doctor?
我们要握手吗? Do we shake hands?
我知道我们曾经是朋友 道格拉斯 I know we were friends, Douglas.
有一段时间 For a while.
再见,赫尔曼 Goodbye, Hermann.
多年以后 Years from now,
你对我们的评价是对的 happen to what you say about us.
你会承认我们是人类吗? Will you even acknowledge we were human?
现在宣读国际军事法庭的判决 The judgment of the International Military Tribunal will now be read.
每位被告将依次接受审讯 Each defendant will be addressed in turn.
赫尔曼·格林 Hermann Gering,
证据表明 在希特勒之后 the evidence shows that after Hitler,
你是纳粹政权中最杰出的人物 you were the most prominent man in the Nazi regime.
你的罪恶之大是独一无二的 Your guilt is unique in its enormity.
你的记录显示没有任何借口 Your record discloses no excuses.
国际军事法庭判处你绞刑 The International Military Tribunal sentences you to death by hanging.
鲁道夫·赫斯 Rudolf Hess,
你被起诉了 you are indicted.
死刑将于今晚午夜执行 The executions are scheduled for midnight tonight.
为了保持纪律 囚犯们要到11点才会被通知 In order to maintain discipline, the prisoners will not be informed until 11.
下午45点 他们将在牢房里被唤醒 并进行最后的仪式 45 pm, when they will be awakened in their cells and offered last rites.
晚上8点 8名精心挑选的记者将抵达监狱 At 8 pm, eight hand- picked journalists will arrive at the prison.
两个法国人 两个英国人 两个美国人 两个俄国人 Two French, two British, two American, two Russian.
熄灯时间是9点 Lights out is at 9.
30 这是医生例行的最后一次检查 30, which is when the doctor will do his normal final rounds.
任何请求助眠的囚犯都会得到掺有小苏打的安慰剂 Any prisoner requesting a sleep aid will be given a placebo with baking soda.
10点钟的时候 At 10 o'clock,
我们会把新闻界送上绞刑架 we will bring the press down to the gallows,
我将向他们简要介绍今晚的最后准备工作 where I will brief them of the final preparations for tonight.
囚犯将被一个接一个带进来 The prisoners will be brought in one by one
并有机会说出他们的遗言 and given the opportunity to speak their last words.
然后他们会... They will then...
是谁? Who is it?
格林 先生 Gering, sir.
不 不 不 不! No, no, no, no!
不 你这个狗娘养的! 你没资格这么做! No, you son of a bitch! You don't get to do this!
他死了 长官 标志 我…该死的! He's dead, sir. Sign, I... God damn it!
对不起 先生 I'm sorry, sir.
我们得做个决定 We have a decision to make.
我们要么取消今晚的死刑要么继续执行 We can either scrub the executions for tonight or proceed.
我们带着它回家吧 Let's just get home with it.
先生 我...史崔克拒绝穿衣服 Sir, I... Stryker is refusing to put his clothes on.
来吧 Come on.
滚出去! Get out of here!
你这该死的婊子! You fucking stupid whore!
放开他! 放开他! Let him go! Let him go!
朱利叶斯 Julius.
你...你... You... You...
你得到了保护 You have been defended.
来吧 Come on.
让我们一起做吧 Let's do it together.
来吧 Come on.
给我一件衬衫 Give me a shirt.
问他的名字 Ask him his name.
你知道我的名字 You know my name.
有什么遗言吗? Any last words?
冷静点 1946年的盛宴 Cool him, feast 1946.
因为她是受害者... For she victim...
本齐亚迪斯·塔古斯·哈根! Benziadis Tagus Hagen!
哦 该死! Oh, damn it!
你为什么离开酒吧? Why do you leave the bar?
是的 凯 Yes, Kay.
我得说实话 凯利医生 I have to be honest, Dr. Kelly.
我觉得你书中的一些结论令人难以置信 I find some of the conclusions in your book quite unbelievable.
你在和纳粹打交道 你必须承认他们是独一无二的人 You were dealing with the Nazis, who you must admit are unique people.
他们不是独一无二的人 They are not unique people.
现在世界上每个国家都有像纳粹一样的人 There are people like the Nazis in every country in the world today.
在美国不是这样 Not in America.
是的 在美国 Yes, in America.
他们的性格模式并不晦涩 Their personality patterns are not obscure.
有些人想要掌权 There are people who want to be in power.
虽然你说它们不存在 但我很确定 And while you say they don't exist here, I would say I'm quite certain
美国也有人愿意这么做 there are people in America who would willingly
爬过半数美国民众的尸体 climb over the corpses of half the American public
如果他们知道他们可以控制另一半 if they knew they could gain control of the other half.
请医生 Doctor, please.
他们煽动仇恨 They stoke hatred.
这就是希特勒和戈林所做的 这是教科书 It's what Hitler and Göring did, and it is textbook.
如果你觉得下次再发生这种事 And if you think the next time it happens
我们会认出来 因为他们穿着可怕的制服 we're going to recognize it because they're wearing scary uniforms,
你真是疯了 you're out of your damn mind.
等我们回来再跟我们的小组讨论 More with our panel when we return.
是的 嗯 Yeah, uh- huh.
他们不会邀请你留下来参加下一个环节 They're not going to invite you to stay for the next segment.
我们走吧 Let's go.
你要知道 And just so you know,
诋毁我们的国家可能不是推销你的书的最佳方式 trashing our country is probably not the best way to sell your book.