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﻿Sci-Fi频道于1992年9月24日一跃成为有线电视频道
The sci-fi channel exploded onto cable television September 24 1992.
我们依然在星际联邦的宇宙
We're still in Federation space.
《星际迷航：下一代》正在巅峰期
Star Trek The Next Generation is on its peaking.
当时有星际迷航 但还没有《X档案》
We have that, but you don't have the X-files yet.
科幻作品是有空缺的
There's a void.
Sci-Fy频道建成之后 重播各类经典老剧 空缺被弥补了
When Sci-Fi arrives, it fills that void with mostly reruns.
播放电影 《星球大战》三部曲提高了频道知名度
Movies the Star Wars trilogy aired their famously at one point.
早期的时候
Early on in its life
有些节目用于播放科幻新闻
there are some shows that they produced the news of sci-fi.
就这些东西
You know, those kind of things.
超光速
Faster than lightspeed.
Sci-Fi频道早年
In sci-fi channels early years
显然主要是重播各种经典科幻节目
they concentrated obviously on reruns of classic science-fiction programming.
你正在穿越另一个维度
You're traveling through another dimension.
不仅是视听的维度 而且是心灵的维度
A dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind.
一次进入奇妙土地的旅行 它的边界是无穷想象
A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination.
那就是你们下一站前的路标
That's the signpost up ahead your next stop.
迷离时空
The twilight zone
《迷离时空》是包罗万象的
There's something that's all encompassing about The Twilight Zone.
发现所有的重大问题和生活奥秘
All the big questions and mysteries of life
然后把它们放进一个奇妙的框架
And put it all together in a fantastic framework
让它变得触手可及 引人回味 令人欢欣。
and make it also very accessible, digestible and entertaining.
对我来说 这是伟大电视节目的缩影
That is to me the epitome of what great television can be
我觉得这就应该是一个科幻频道的任务声明
And that epitomizes, I think the mission statement of something like a sci-fi channel.
刚开始都是一种自由凌乱的状态
In the beginning, there was this freewheeling anarchy.
是《星际之门SG-1》帮助让这个刚刚起步的科幻频道
It was Stargate SG-1 that helped establish the fledgling Sci-Fi channel
建成原创节目的新平台
as a new voice in original programming
《星际之门》一开始在有线付费频道Showtime运作了5年
Stargate, which began on pay-cable on Showtime ,ran for five years
成果非常可观
Totally respectable run.
Showtime决定结束它 但是制作人
Showtime was done with it. But the people who made the show
以及热爱这部剧的粉丝都不愿意让它结束
and the fans who loved the show weren't done with it yet.
然后Sci-Fi来了 说
And so Sci-Fi comes in, says
我们愿意为接纳你们
We'll provide you a safe haven.
我们有两个故事线 真的两条完整的故事线
We had two lines, two full lines, really.
五年对于任何电视剧来说都算很久了
Five years is a long time for any television show.
在这个全是同类作品的平台居然能做到超过200集
You get beyond 200 episodes here in rarified air.
转移到新的网络平台其实给予了我们新的活力
The fact that we moved to a new network gave us a renewed energy
新平台的投资推动了这部剧
that network now it was invested in us that helped boost the show.
Sci-Fi台的重播做得非常好
The reruns played really well on the Sci-Fi channel.
在第六、七季的某个时间点
There was a point in time in season 6/7
Sci-Fi就是靠我们坐台的
where we were, we were the show that was on Sci-Fi.
那个时期只要你点进Sci-Fi 肯定有《星际之门》
If you clicked Sci-Fi, chances were Stargate was on.
我们来的时候刚好赶上平台的过渡期
We came in at a time that they were also going through some transitions
他们正在利用自己的内部资源进行开发
growing in terms of their own internal machine
弄清楚如何既进行新剧制作 又能市场化
and figuring out not just how to produce a show but also how to market a show
并且播出我们这样的剧
and get a show like ours out on the air.
从制作和创意的角度来说 这部剧都很有野心
It was such an ambitious show from production standpoint and from a creative standpoint.
我们花了不少时间来思考什么能做 什么不能做
It took a little while for us to figure out what we could and couldn't do
以及如何塑造人物形象
and also figure out the tone of the characters.
我们剧组总是很欢乐
There was always fun to be had among the group.
而且这种欢乐也传递到了剧中
It really translated through the shows.
我还记得刚开始的时候 Rick开始表演O'Neill的角色
I can remember when we first started, how Rick was playing O'Neill.
Richard Dean Anderson接手Jack O'Neill之后
When Richard Dean Anderson became Jack O'Neill,
我们本来打算做一个非常直接 完全严肃的军事科幻
the idea of doing a completely straightforward serious military science fiction series
但是他打消了我们的主意
went out the window.
因为Rick就不喜欢严肃
Because Rick doesn't do that.
他们不是人类
They're not human.
这你都看出来了
You think.
Rick就是Rick 他天生就搞笑
Rick is Rick. He is funny.
忍不住就搞笑了
It just can't help himself.
不论什么时候 他都做不到那种隐忍克制 苦大仇深的角色
He wasn't going to take on that kind of level of stoic arc character for any length of time
因为那就不适合他
because that's just not him.
有时候我就看着他要怎么做
Sometimes I just look in about what do you do like
但是他 从第一天起 就认定O'Neill一定要有幽默感
But he, from day one, got that the O'Neill character had to have a sense of humor.
他想要把他的角色引到那个方向
He wanted to drag his character over in that direction
像那种欢乐沙雕的 愣头青 你懂的
to be more this sort of humorous goofball kind of, you know, airhead.
The Jack O'Neill character was slightly befuddled but still
Jack O'Neill这个角色是有点稀里糊涂的 但是
依然领导力很强
you know, very much in command
他可能会要求我做更详细的解释
and would maybe ask me to explain things a little bit further.
到了第七季他基本就是 啥？啥？
And you know by season 7 he was like: What? What?
啥？
What?
就像这样的
That was kind of it.
这剧肯定是半个相声剧
It was definitely a tongue-in-cheek kind of show.
一旦他开始即兴发挥 就要影响其他演员
Once he started to take licensed and improvised and that gave the other actors
我们其他人能做的就是跟着一起即兴 因为已经脱离剧本了
the only thing we could do is improvise because we're off the page now.
只要有Rick在 剧本就变成了过期的牛奶
With Rick, the script was kind of, just like the expiration date on milk.
只是指导一个大致方向
It was just a suggestion.
他想到什么就说什么
He was gonna say what he's gonna say
想做什么就做什么
and do what he was gonna do anyway.
我这儿正上杆呢！
In the middle of my backswing!
那我们就只好都配合他
So we might as well make everything else work around him.
作为演员 你表演严肃的场景
You could play these great gravitas moments as an actor and
结果他就突然来了一句段子
that he would say something flip.
她不可能让我回去看小熊队世界职业棒球锦标赛夺冠的
She wouldn't let me go back and watch the cub to win the World Series.
我们差一点点就笑出声了 每次都是 差点笑出来
We were that close to the giggle, all the time, just below the surface.
要多搞笑就有多搞笑
How as much fun as possible. Tell us many jokes.
彼此的时间就这么过去了
You can time track each other up.
摸鱼过程中 如果一天的任务恰好完成了 那就正好
And in the process, if the day happens to get done, so be it.
虽然很欢乐 但是当剧集转移平台的时候
Despite the fun, when the show changed networks,
Michael Shanks并没有一起来
Michael Shanks didn't come along.
留给这个角色的发展空间似乎越来越少了
There seemed to be less and less a place for the character.
我就想着 是时候各奔东西了 你懂的
I thought, you know, good time to part ways.
最后一次见面的时候 我告诉他
I said to him on our last meeting.
听着 我们会这么做
I said, look, here's what we're gonna do.
我们不会把你写死 可以让你回来
You're gonna leave in a way that you can come back.
我们理解Michael的决定 也明白他的理由
We understood Michael's decision and where it was coming from
所以就找到一种能够允许他回来的方式
and then found a way to make it work to bring him back.
Daniel复活的时候没穿衣服
Daniel was resurrected naked.
感觉像是Rob Cooper为了当时离开剧组的决定报复我
It was like Rob Cooper's payback for me leaving the show in the first place.
3月3号 好像是在温哥华的早上 晨霜还没化的时候
March third, like in the morning in Vancouver where this frost on the ground.
我都不知道Daniel死过多少回了
I have no idea how many times Daniel actually died.
我确定 我演过所有角色有三分之一都死过
I pretty much have died three-quarters of the things I've been in
但是Daniel的死亡次数肯定不下20次
But Daniel himself probably died, it's definitely over 20
但我不确定具体数字是多少
but I'm not sure the entire head count.
我们开玩笑时给他起外号叫Kenny 《南方公园》的那位
We joked about him being nicknamed Kenny from South Park.
唉妈呀 我们杀了Kenny
Oh my god! We've killed Kenny.
Daniel先升天再回来 就这么循环往复
Daniel just kept descending and coming back
我们就一直在想杀死他的新方式
and we just kept finding new ways to kill him
他们很多角色都死过很多次
A lot of them died a lot of times
科幻剧刺激啊
Speedy science fiction
死得最多的还是那些个性丰富的反派角色
And the designers of most of those deaths were the colorful villains
Goa'uld作为情节主要推动者的时间是最长的
The main thrust of the show for the longest time with Goa'uld.
我们认为这个种族叫做Gold
Race of people we believe were called the gold.
Goa'uld
Goa'uld.
是嘛？
Really?
没法发音
Impossible to pronounce.
每个客串演员的发音都不一样
Every guest star who came on the show said it different.
古欧德 苟欧德 苟挖欧德 污欧德
like Guold，Gould, Gouald, Woarld...
发音就成了一个笑点
This became this joke who is gonna pronounce it
苟噫吁嚱呜呼
The girl ha
哪有人这么说话啊
No one could ever say it.
我就说 我就叫他古欧德
I just like Well I called him the Guold
但他们非要叫苟尔欧德
but they were like the go I would go out
Chris Judge说的最好 苟污欧尔德
Chris Judge can say it a lot better like Goa'uld
Goa'uld或者Jaffa语言的发音通常都要靠我
The pronunciation of anything Gou'ald or Jaffa was was kind of up to me
（苟语）
...
苟欧德 嗯 没错 我是对的
Goa'uld. Yeah yeah. That's right.
最有趣的反派当然是复制者
The villains that were most fun of course were the Replicators.
Apophis 这个角色搞笑的地方在于
The Apophis, the hilarity of that characters is that
他在全剧中尊严扫地的次数和Daniel差不多
he almost suffered as many indignity as as Daniel did over the course of the show
两眼放光 说话嗡嗡嗡
with his glowing eyes and bur bur bur voice.
- 嘿 老波 - 肃静！
- Hey pops. - Silence!
他的很多情节都很滑稽
It's kind of comical a lot of a time.
服装
Costume
就很 你懂的 符合变装皇后的梦想
is very, I mean, you know, a drag queen's dream.
之后我们又有了新的苦主 Ori
Later we had a new nemesis called the Ori.
他们就没有Goa'uld那么搞笑了
They weren't as kind of comic booky as Goa'uld.
Julian Sands演这个反派 他真的很酷
We had Julian Sands played and he was really cool.
之后的一季我们又有了Adria 可爱的Miranda Baccarin演的
In the latter season, we had Adria played by the lovely Miranda Baccarin
在SG-1第七季结尾
At the end of Season 7 of SG-1,
制作方打算继续拓展这个系列
the producers had a plan to continue the franchise.
第七季最后
At the end of Season 7
出现了一个消失古城之谜 差不多是在引入亚特兰蒂斯
was a lost city which was sort of an introduction to Atlantis.
只要稍作调整 这集就可以当成全剧终
With a few adjustments, that could have been a series finale.
一部剧能做到七季已经很罕见了
It's very rare for a show to go beyond seven seasons.
非常难得
Very rare.
我们设想了一个非常复杂的情节
We had conceived a complicated scenario
有必要把任务从SG-1转交给亚特兰蒂斯
in which we would essentially hand the ball off from sg-1 to Atlantis.
我们无论如何都没想到
Never in a million years did it occur to us
要尝试在一年内制作40集电视剧
to try and produce 40 episodes of television a year.
要推出《亚特兰蒂斯》
Let me pitch Atlantis.
实际上我以为要从一个过渡到另一个
In fact I thought it was as a transition.
结果他们说两个都要
They said they want both.
然后我就：疯了吧？
And I went: Are you crazy?
制作人是一样的 我们要做两部剧
It's the same guys. We make both shows.
他们问 你们行吗？
They said, can you do it?
我们大概想了两秒钟 然后说
We kind of thought about it for two seconds and said,
当然了 我们没问题
Sure, of course we can do that.
我实际上应该去SGA的
I was actually going to move to Atlantis
因为当时不确定我们还能不能续订
because we didn't know if we'd be renewed.
Daniel和Jack在SGA的初次交叉登场
Daniel and Jack's first interaction in that show
就是为了把任务交接给这个新剧组
was to pass the baton over to these people
把我们之前七年构建的一切
and take all the sort of build-up that we had done for the first seven years
交给他们 由他们在亚特兰蒂斯继续这个宇宙的故事
and hand it off to them and have them take the ball and run with it to Atlantis.
两部剧在同一时间线内共存了三年
Two shows managed to co-exist for three years on the same line.
简直不敢相信我们做到了 整整三年 但我们成功了
I can't believe we managed to do that for three years. But we did.
SG-1十季之后 他们叫停了这个主线系列
After ten seasons of SG-1, they pulled the plug on the flagship series.
实际上我们在拍摄第200集的时候就知道了
We actually found out while we were filming the 200th episode
除了砍剧的消息 这就是我们在片场度过的最黄金的一周
which other than that was like the most glorious week we'd ever had on set.
梦幻般的一周
It was just a magical week
然后就发现我们被砍了
and then we find out we're cancelled.
这就是演艺圈啊
That's showbiz
太神奇了
That's amazing.
每年我们都差点被抛弃 然后又能被捡起来
Every year we were sort of blown away that we kept getting picked up
但等到终于全都结束的时候
and when it was finally over.
我们依然觉得 不是吧 怎么这样啊
It was like, no way, come on.
我们很多人生活的一部分画上了句号
It was the end of a large chapter of a lot of our lives.
剧集取消是板上钉钉
He made sure that they aborted it so that
拍摄的最后一天拍的就是最后一集的最后一幕
the last scene of the last episode was going to be shot on the last day
真的是最后一幕了
and on the last, in the last shots.
所有人都聚到星门室
Everyone just gathered in the gateroom
当小队最后一次穿过星门时
As the team went through the gate for the final time
很多人都哽咽了
and a lot of people were quite choked up.
那一整天我都在嚎啕大哭
I just bawled the rest of the day.
我是说 太荒唐了
I mean it was ridiculous.
Michael和Christopher还有我悄悄上楼 躲在会议室
Michael and Christopher and I snuck upstairs to the briefing room
就我们三个站在那里
just the three of us and we stood there and
互相抱着对方
kind of put our arms around each other
一边说 好吧 还是来了
and went, well, that happened.
最后 我是说 是真的为我们累积的成果而庆祝
At the end, I mean it was truly just a collective celebration of what we had accomplished.
《星际之门：亚特兰蒂斯》又继续了两季
Stargate Atlantis would continue for two years more.
但即使是在这部剧被砍之后 《星际之门》系列依然没有结束
But even after that show was cancelled, Stargate wasn't dead.
《星际之门：宇宙》只拍了两季
Stargate Universe only lasted two seasons.
但是SG-1小队还在战斗
But the crew of SG-1 also soldiered on.
我们就知道有一天我们会做电影
We knew at some point we were gonna do the movies
我觉得从先导集开始就有这种想法了
because I think that was the thinking even from the pilot
我们要先做剧集 然后开始做电影
that we wanted to do these episodes and then start doing movies.
《连续体》《真理之箱》都是空前的成功
Continuum, An Arc of Truth had been incredibly successful from gen.
我们想每年给每个故事线做一到两部电影
We expected to do one or two a year of each brand
从而扩大这个系列 但是没想到
and just grow it out that one unforeseeable thing happened
这个最低预期还是退出了DVD市场
that bottom fell right out of the DVD market.
很有意思 利用星际之门这个名号
It was interesting that you could take that name Stargate
在这个系列中创作不同形式的作品
and create different shows within the franchise
这对于Sci-Fi而言是非常有力的渠道拓展途径
and it was just a completely powerful brand for Sci-Fi.
这个场景一直都在电视上
It's on television constantly
拨号 然后 星门 星门 星门
just flip the dial stargate stargate stargate
父母可以和孩子一起看我们的剧集
We're a show that parents could watch with their kids
而当年看剧的孩子现在又成了父母
where those kids are now have their own kids
他们又会给自己的孩子介绍这部剧
They have introduced their children to it.
我数不清有多少母女或者父女
I cannot tell you how many mothers and daughters or fathers and daughters
来找我 对我说 我们会一起看你的剧
come up to me and say we watched your show together
这是我们的家庭活动
That was our family night.
父亲们说 你知道吗 你的角色真的鼓舞了我女儿
Dads who would say you know my daughter was really inspired by your character
我们绝对不会说
We never gonna say
好吧 完事了 咱回家吧
Okay, done, we're all going home now
我们永远不会那样
We were never gonna do that
因为我们愿意想象某个地方会有星门计划
because we like to imagine that there will always be a Stargate program somewhere happening
可能现在就在运作 哪怕星际之门现在没播
even right now even though there's no Stargate on the air
但可能就在月球的一侧有一座星门基地 有SG-1小队
somewhere maybe on the other side of the Moon is a base where SG-1
或者随便什么人 正在完成任务
whoever they are are off doing their thing
这些人物活在我的想象中
That's where the character lives in my imagination
他们会继续旅行 继续探索 不断历险
is continuing to travel, continuing to to journey and going those adventures.
接下来
Coming up next
我觉得所有人都觉得
I think everyone thought
这野心太大了 根本不可能
it was far too ambitious and that it was going to be impossible
1999年 Sci-Fi电视台还在摸索之中
In 1999 the sci-fi channel was still finding its way
这里是经典老剧的家园
It was the home of the old and familiar
没人能料想到 会有那么多原创作品爆炸般出现
and no one foresaw the explosion of original creativity that would come
本来Sci-Fi主要是重播各种老剧
Primarily known for rerunning things
但他们也在尝试推出新的作品 新的剧本
and they were trying to make a push into new material, scripted material
其他的早期项目 例如
Other early original programming such as
《迎接悖论》 《创世纪任务》
Welcome to Paradox and Mission Genesis
都仅出了一季
barely lasted a single season.
但是Sci-Fi要在这种体裁上留下自己的脚印
But Sci-Fi was about to make their mark in the genre.
《遥远星际》对于科幻的意义 就像《星际迷航》对于广播电视
Farscape was the sci-fi what Star Trek was to broadcast television.
敲响开创式的警钟
It was a real shot across the bow.
我们认真地想做伟大的科幻剧
We are serious about doing great sci-fi television.
我一直认定 只有等电视制作能满足我们的需求时
I've always contended that Farscape wouldn't have existed
《遥远星际》才能出现
unless television had come up with exactly what we needed
我们的需求就是一个致力于探险作品的网络平台
which was a network totally devoted to speculative fiction.
Brian Henson做好了计划 他要证明
Brian Henson had an agenda he wanted to prove
汉森公司能够实现史上最高的化妆水平
that the Henson Company could make really high-end makeups on first turn around
很多仿生角色
A lot of the animatronic character and
很多仿生角色
A lot of the animatronic character and
以及生物技术 经常出现在电影里
creature techniques that we've been doing in movies
而我们要把这些用到电视剧里
We wanted to bring to television
所以我们一直希望找到一个最酷的想法
So we were looking for what would be the coolest idea
Rock希望是一个文学艺术性极高的阳春白雪
Rock wanted it to be highbrow and literary and
与众不同 不落俗套
something different something special
而这与众不同正是Sci-Fi想要的
and something special is what Sci-Fi was looking forward to
好吧 我们不懂R2-D2那一套
All right. We don't understand the R2-D2 crap
我们要用《星际迷航》的路子
We're gonna use the Star Trek system
眨眼一次是肯定 两次是否定
One blink for yes. Two blinks for no.
我当时还不知道
And I at that point didn't know that
Sci-Fi居然真敢想委任这样一份原创作品
Sci-Fi was even thinking of commissioning original programming like this
尤其是这么大的制作规模
and particularly on this scale
Sci-Fi毫不犹豫开展这份作品 勇气可嘉
It was impressive the courage took Sci-Fi to jump in and commission the show
最初计划是给我们13集
We had 13 episodes ordered in the first block
只有这样才能让作品计划通过
That was the only way to make it viable
毕竟需要制作那么多场景和生物
given all the sets and the creatures we had to build
所以只能做13集
was to have 13 episodes
他们就完全让我们放开去做
They just totally said go for it
希望这份作品能够打开新世界的大门
We want the show that pushes the envelope
大啊
That's big.
Sci-Fi是真的猛士 都表示热爱这种想法
Sci-Fi was really very bold and saying we love this premise
就是要展示属于我们自己的原创作品
We're looking for something that we could present as uniquely our own
啥？你们都在看啥？
What? What are you all looking at?
通过这样的视角获得更多观众 证明我们不是一般的网络平台
a vision that shows the greater audience that this is not a regular Network.
现在是比尔和特德呢 所以欢迎各种建议（《比尔特德历险记》）
I'm Bill and Ted land here so I'm open to suggestion.
我觉得所有人都觉得这野心太大了
I think everyone thought it was far too ambitious
根本不可能
and that it was going to be impossible
选择在澳大利亚进行制作也拓展了资金来源
Producing the show in Australia was one way to stretch the budget.
澳大利亚方面帮助我们在荧幕上投入了更多资金
The Australian financing structure helped us to put a lot more money on screen.
这是我见过的澳大利亚投入的野心最大的项目
It was the most ambitious project I think Australia had ever seen
在电视节目上 就当时而言
In television. To that point.
在电视节目方面 就当时而言
In television. To that point.
我觉得这部剧很难在其他地方完成
I don't know if the show could have been made anywhere else
考虑到资金成本 以及最终播出成品的制作价值 水平难以匹及
budget and have as much of the production values end up on screen as they did.
完全由我们原创完成
We were off on our own.
完全由我们原创完成
We were off on our own.
没人知道我们什么时候会做错
Nobody knew where we were the time zones were wrong
我们刚一到那里 就发现
Once we got there and discovered
幕后难以置信的美术团队
its incredible pool of artisans behind the scenes
正在等待时机 准备制作（这句没听完整orz）
were just ...
如果没有 《遥远星际》不可能完成
It would never have been Farscape.
不可能达到我们实现的水平
It would never have achieved what it achieved without those people.
成就《遥远星际》的不是我们 而是他们
It wasn't us. It was actually them.
我们完全民主 通过投票决定作品的每一步
We made it a democracy and voting would decide what went in the show.
我不知道哪里能做到像我们当时那样
I don't know how that will ever be recreated somewhere.
电视和电影的制作资金要求不允许这样混乱的片场秩序
The finances of television and film don't allow for that kind of anarchy.
想法都是一步一步积累而来的
It was a collective process
导演的想法 编剧的想法
Directors had ideas. Writers had ideas.
有时还有演员的想法
Sometimes actors have ideas.
聚水成涓
But literally right down to the grips.
声效人员 伙食人员 他们的想法都真的很棒
The sound guys, the caterer, they had a really good idea.
那我们就采用
We use it.
Ben在场景布置方面做了一个神奇的工作
Ben did sort of an amazing thing on set
从剧集开始到结束 他一直都这么做
All the time all the way through Farscape.
如果一个场景很滑稽 他就会尝试把吐槽写进台词
If a set looked ridiculous, he would try to put it in the dialogue.
这个旺卡电梯咋开呐？（《查理和巧克力工厂》）
Hey you know how to drive this wonkavator?
他一直很聪明 对剧本进行润色
He always found clever ways to embellish,
增加转折 调整方向 升华剧情
add change, alter, heighten.
目前我看到的只有卑鄙无耻
Everything I have seen so far is despicable.
欢迎来到联邦星舰S.S.屁股沟号
Welcome to the Federation Starship S.S. Buttcrack.
这个广阔遥远的陌生宇宙中 Crichton能够代表观众
Crichton is proxy for the audience in the vast unknown distant universe.
他说的梗 观众都懂
He's the one that knows the references that they know.
我才不想屈从
I don't want to stoop that low.
柯克从来不屈从
Kirk wouldn't stoop that low.
那就是个电视剧 John
That was a television show, John.
他是真正的科幻宅
He is actually a science fiction geek.
他属于看《星际迷航》长大的一代
He is that generation that watched Star Trek
然后就梦想“我要当宇航员”
and then went "I want to be an astronaut".
但是这部剧最激动人心的还是那些令人惊叹的生物
But one of the most exciting parts of the show were the amazing creatures
由吉姆·汉森公司创造而成
created by the Jim Henson Company.
这些作品价值百万
These are million-dollar creations.
我们有两个Rygel模型
We had a couple of Rygels.
一般都用真正的机械Rygel 全身可动
We had the actual mechanical Rygel that was full-service all working.
但还有个玩偶Rygel是可以用来随便扔的
And then we had a doll version that we could kind of throw over cliffs.
而且我记得我们扔的还挺频繁
And I think we did that quite regularly.
数量不多
You don't have five of them.
就这么一个 所以我们需要限制一些动作
You have one of them and so we had some limitations
比如Rygel不能有游泳情节
like Rygel didn't get to go swimming.
他就像我们片场的宝宝
He was like our little devar on set.
我们对Rygel都要小心翼翼的
We couldn't have to be really careful with Rygel
我不是任何人的木偶
I'm nobody's puppet.
演员都很清楚这方面的操作守则
The actors were very aware of all the operation of all that
所以都保持距离 不去碰它
And were very hands-off and kept their distance
直到有一天 Ben Browder真的用手碰了Rygel
And it was Ben Browder who one day actually put his hands onto Rygel.
效果居然非常好 而且让Rigel鲜活起来了
It just totally worked and it just imbued Rigel
因为他可以回应别人的行为
because he could react to that
他药不能停
He needs help.
绝对不能停 我觉得洗脑对他没用
Lots of help. I don't think the mind cleansing is working.
你打木偶 观众会笑
Smack the puppet and people laugh.
木偶还打你 更搞笑了
The puppet smacks you, it's even funnier.
对于演员而言 他做的很大胆
It's a very bold thing for him to do as an actor
而且很天才
and stroke of genius
因为这大概改变了所有人的游戏规则
because it kind of changed the game for everybody.
你要饼干是吧
You wanted crackers.
会有小孩到片场来 是工作人员的孩子
Kids would come to set. Children of the people working on the show.
台下有六个木偶操控人员 但是孩子们不看他们
They would never look at the six puppeteers on the ground.
他们只看木偶 都看呆了
They would look dead in the eyes of the puppet
我心都化了 真的很感人
And it was so touching really sort of melted my heart
能看到想象力对于一个孩子有多重要
to see how important imagination is to a kid
能看到他们多么渴望在生活的世界里
and how they'd live in that world
有人愿意相信这些生物都是真实的
where they wanted to believe that the creature was real
哪怕演员也是
It wasn't hard for the actors though either
很难不信这些生物是真的
to believe that these creatures were real
因为设计太精美了
because they were so beautifully designed
现在看这部剧 要想只把这些生物当成虚拟人物是不可能的
Now it's impossible to watch the show and not just think of them as characters
你真的会把他们当做船员
You really do think of them as other members of the crew
他们说是假的 拉倒吧
Whatever you've heard, forget it.
口碑上 这部剧名声大噪
Critically the show was a smash.
评论都非常好
The reviews were really really positive.
它的暴力元素比其他科幻稍多一些
It's a little bit more brutal than the other science fiction
还有性元素
as well as it's a little more sexy
情绪也更丰富 角色个性更多变
and it's a little more emotional and the characters are a little less stable.
你好啊 宝贝儿
Hi ya honey.
虽然备受好评 但是《遥远星际》并未长久
Despite critical acclaim, Farscape couldn't last.
Sci-Fi那边应该不想砍了我们
Sci-Fi I don't think wanted to cancel us.
至少他们是这么告诉我们的
At least that's what we're told
第四季杀青的那天
We were wrapping the day of season four,
我们还默认肯定会有第五季
thinking we automatically had a season five
然后Brian就告诉我
when I got the word from Brian
不会有第五季了
there would be no season five.
Finally we see John Crichton propose on a boat to Aeryn Sun
最后我们终于看到John Crichton在船上向Ayern Sun求婚
然后他们就被杀了
only to have them both be killed.
《遥远星际》的结局可能永远都是那样了
That was potentially going to be the end of Farscape forever.
已经拍了的就不能改
We can't change what we're doing
所以只能留一个大悬念在那里
so we'll just leave it with a cliffhanger
下面还写着未完待续
and we'll leave the to be continued.
其实Sci-Fi可以把最后的两分钟剪了
Sci-Fi had the option they could have cut those last two minutes off
那么这集结局就是Crichton和Ayern在一起
and let the episode finish with Crichton and Ayern
They're going to get married and live happily ever after
然后他们会结婚 从此过上幸福生活
我爱你
I love you.
他们理解我们的感受
They understood how we felt
也知道《遥远星际》结局永远不可预测
and they also understood that was always the unpredictability of Farscape
这就是它的魅力所在
was always the appeal.
我们为粉丝难过 为剧组所有人员难过
We were sad for the fans. We were sad for everyone who worked on the show.
因为当时我们就像一家人
because we were a family.
包括所有演员和剧务
The cast and crew at that point
得知剧集被砍的现场有好多楚巴卡猛男落泪
There were grips, big burly hairy guys crying over the cancellation of the show.
因为大家已经对这部剧倾尽心血
because of the crew was invested in this show
生物制作室的工作人员
All the people who worked in the Creature Shop,
化妆美术人员
the makeup artists,
光效人员
the lighting guys,
都直接走下片场 情绪非常激动 大家都对这份艺术作品投入了太多
straight down to the set nerves were emotionally invested in making this piece of art.
粉丝反响也很强烈
There was a massive response from the fans.
我觉得这部剧播出的时候刚好是互联网开始流行
And I think really this show was on that first wave of the internet
网络成了观众表达的有力手段
becoming a very powerful tool for audiences
我震惊了
I was shocked.
-我不敢相信 -我哭了
-I could not believe it. -I cried
粉丝们送来抗议帖 在媒体上发泄情绪
They sent protests and media outlets
反应太强烈 以至于我要到CNN上
so that I end up being on CNN
讨论粉丝们的愤怒行为
discussing the fan outrage.
他们的抗议贴都很有创意
They were very creative in their protest
粉丝就这样和我们站在一起 大声尖叫：现在不能砍！
The fans just joined us in kind of a big shriek of: not now!
还早呢 现在不能砍
This is not the time for this to end.
粉丝的激情起到了积极作用 让大家看到
Then the passionate nature of the fans was a positive that showed everybody
哇哦 这些人在乎的
Wow. These people care.
他们对这部剧不仅是随便看看而已
It isn't just the TV show that they're clicking on.
他们也投入了很多感情
These people have invested something in the show
我是《遥远星际》
I am Farscape.
粉丝反响促成四小时迷你剧的诞生作为结局
The fan response led to a four-hour miniseries to wrap up the story
Brian Henson说如果不是粉丝的力量
Brian Henson said were it not for the power of these fans,
我们永远都不可能有机会拍《和平护卫之战》
we would not have been able to make Peacekeeper Wars.
是这些好莱坞圈子之外的人
It was someone from outside of the normal Hollywood circles
为Brian带来资金
that brought this investor money to Brian
并且说“我们想看故事结局”
and said "We want to see the end of the story."
他们提供资金 以一部制作成本高昂的迷你剧体面地终结全剧
They did finance. A very lavish miniseries to finish the series properly
而且给了我们都想要的结局
and developed the final story the way we really wanted.
我能肯定 《和平卫士之战》
To Peacekeeper Wars, I'm certainly
让我们的剧组团队有了美满的归宿
allowed us to get this group and troupe
大概终于完成了《遥远星际》第一阶段的故事
to a good place where we could complete kind of the first cycle of Farscape.
然后我们又出了一个漫画系列 非常成功
There's been a comic book series that we've done. That's been very successful.
一直有传言会有各种形式来重启这部作品
There's always talk of rekindling the show in some incarnation
不管是网剧还是正片
whether it's online or in features
总之我相信《遥远星际》还没结束 我依然坚信
I don't believe Farscape is done. I still don't.
而我觉得看《遥远星际》的观众
But I think there's a bigger audience out there for Farscape
肯定比我们知道还要多 哪怕是如今
than we that we really know, even to this day.
这好东西可不多见啊
I don't see that every day
接下来
coming up next
他们讨论的是我们社会中存在的各种问题
They're talking about everything that's wrong with our society
针对当下现实社会
in the world right now
而且表现的政治元素非常浓厚
and they're getting a way with doing it in a very political way
因为科幻可以这样
because it's science fiction.
行星时有连成一线 伟大可能来自不可能
Sometimes the planets align and greatness can arise from the unlikeliest of sources.
2004年 一部30年历史的太空歌剧在Sci-Fi频道重现生机
In 2004, that happened for Sci-Fi with the reimagining of a 30-year old space opera.
有时当你冒险尝试一些事情
Sometimes when you put your neck out and try something
就是你收获美妙的时刻
is when you get something fabulous.
真的是在抓住瓶子里的闪电
Really is about catching lightning in a bottle.
《太空堡垒卡拉狄加》的创作是很自由的
There is this freedom that Battlestar had
因为没人对我们较真 因为我们是科幻
because everybody dismissed us because we were science fiction.
Sci-Fi频道对我们非常放得开 允许我们自由发挥
Sci-Fi channel was exceedingly loose in terms of what they allowed us to do
实际上就是他们邀请我们自由发挥的
and actually invited us to do.
他们其实不在意我们对原作怎么修改
They did not really care what we did with the original Battlestar Galactica.
我认为他们只是把这个当做一个已经广泛认可的标题
I think they saw it primarily as a title that was recognizable
便于剧集推广
and that they could mark it.
当时播出了大量太空剧
There was a wealth of space opera on the air
那么问题来了 为什么还需要另一部呢？
and so the immediate question was why does the world need another one
剧集想法是预想人类的毁灭
The show that was predicated on this idea of the destruction of the human race
先导集就出现了这场大规模的灭族
and this massive genocide that takes place in the pilot
那么正片就是关于幸存者的逃生之旅
and that the show is about the survivors that escape
被敌人追杀 一路逃亡
and run off into the night and are pursued by the enemies.
这里是指挥官
This is the commander.
片刻之前 本船得到消息
Moments ago this ship received word
赛昂正在攻击我们的家园
of a Cylon attack against our home worlds is underway.
我开始从古早的角度来思考这个主意
I started thinking about it from a more old-fashioned standpoint
这些科幻小说家
What the original science fiction writers
比如阿西莫夫 海因莱恩 菲利普·K·迪克
like Asimov and Heinlein and Philip K Dick
会怎样利用这种题材实现对于当下社会的隐喻
had done with the genre as a metaphor for contemporary society.
2002年1月还是2月 9-11事件过去只有几个月
In January or February of 2002, just a few months after the 9/11 attacks
我突然意识到 如果现在来重现这个故事
I realized immediately that if I retold this story today
就会给观众营造一个完全不同的情感背景
they would having a completely different emotional context from the audience
而且这对于我们现在所处的社会是一个强有力的隐喻
and it would be a powerful metaphor for the world that we were living in right now
可以实现一个与当下息息相关的科幻作品
and we could do a science fiction piece that was relevant to today
评价当今社会正在经历的现象
that could comment on things we were going through as a society
我觉得这是一个有力的机会
and I thought that was a powerful powerful opportunity.
我们可以深入探讨堕胎问题
We could go there further with discussions on abortion,
自杀式袭击问题
discussions on suicide bombings,
好人坏人 正邪之分
who's the bad side and who's the good side
他们讨论的是当下这个社会中存在的各种问题
They're talking about everything that's wrong with our society in the world right now
一切都紧跟时事
but everything that's current
而且表现的政治元素非常浓厚
and they're getting away with doing it in a very political way
因为这是科幻
because it's science fiction
迷你剧里就能看出这不是个幼稚的空想
You could see in the miniseries that this was not juvenile escapism.
我的意思是 这是一个文明社会湮灭的问题
I mean it was about a civilization getting annihilated
人类需要自我重生
and then having to reinvent themselves.
你不可能在一个真实政治社会故事背景下反映这些
You couldn't do all that in a real political social context
但是科幻背景就可以做到
but you can do it in Sci-Fi
而且如果科幻做得好 观众就能理解它
and in really good Sci-Fi, people will actually get it
相信它 开始讨论这个话题
believe it and start debating and talking about it.
你活着吗？
Are you alive?
是的
Yes.
哪怕机器人 也是有生命的
Even if it's a robot, it's still a being.
它有思想 不能盲目地被他人左右
It still has a mind and it still thinks it's not being told what to do
所以我认为我们总是从基本人性的角度来呈现问题
So I think we kind of always approached it in in a basic humanistic way.
改变赛昂设定
The decision to change the Cylons
和原作已有设定有所区别
into something altogether different from what the original show had done
是在剧集想法出现的时候就想好的
was very much a kind of simultaneous conclusion that
考虑到现实性以及制作周期的问题
was driven both by pragmatism and by a creative agenda at the same time
我们也知道 当时的数码特效
We also knew that from a digital effects standpoint,
没法做出形象逼真的机器人
we weren't gonna be able to create authentic looking robots
毕竟我们的资金有限
reasonably within the budgets that we were gonna have
而且显然让人穿盔甲也是不合适的
and certainly putting guys in suits wasn't an option.
所以让赛昂变成人形看来是个高招
So making the Cylons look like us seemed like a masterstroke
有12种模型 我是第6种
There are 12 models. I'm number 6.
既然我们选择了这条路 就要走下去
If we go that route, let's embrace that.
他们看起来像人类的原因是最基本的
Let's say there's a fundamental reason why they look like human beings,
为什么会这样？
Why would you do that?
或许是因为最初就是人类创造了赛昂
Well maybe it's because the humans created them in the first place.
或许是他们对于我们创造他们的方式非常不满
Maybe they're really angry with us for creating that way
或许他们把我们视作父母
and maybe they consider us to be their parents
对父母感到愤怒
and they're angry at their parents
而且过程是动态变化的
and there's a dynamic we start to play
人类之子逐渐变成攻击父母的孩子
where they're the children of humanity striking back against their parents.
父母虐待他们
They treated him badly.
神对你们的爱胜过其他所有生灵
God loved you more than all other living creatures
而你们却报之以罪行
and you repaid his divine love with sin
仇恨 腐朽 邪恶
with hate, corruption, evil.
所以他决定创造赛昂
So then he decided to create the Cylons.
情节设定的层次丰富了起来 是很棒的
Now there's all these layers that I can play and that's great
但其实初衷都来自于实际制作的问题
but it all kind of came from a very practical production problem
如果你能让反派和英雄一样生动有趣
If you can make your villain is interesting as your hero
如果你能让反派和英雄一样令人同情
if you can make your villain as sympathetic as your hero
那你做的剧就很有趣了
then you've got some interesting drama
为了让所有人知道他们的目标 制作方在先导集剧本上加了一段宣言词
To show everyone what they intended, the creators added a manifesto to the pilot script.
宣言就是任务声明 告诉他们这就是我们要做的
The manifesto was a mission statement that said here's what we're intending to do.
我有点想过这部剧的哲学内涵
I kind of went through what the philosophy of the show was.
我们的目的只有一个 颠覆科幻电视剧
Our goal is nothing less than the reinvention of the science fiction television series
科幻剧中花哨的粉饰
A world where science fiction, the bells and whistles
以及避世享乐主义都会因为现实的情感纠葛而黯然失色
and the escapist aspects of science fiction are muted in favor of emotional realism
营造真实感 让你仿佛在看纪录片
and a believability almost as though you were watching a documentary
太空纪录片
that took place in space
看到有人把任务宣言写在先导集剧本封面上 我都吓炸了
I was blown away by the foot spur of someone starting off his pilot script with a manifesto
Edward James Olmos后来跟我说
Edward James Olmos would later reveal to me that
如果没看到封面这句话 他是不会翻开第一页的
he never would have turned past page one if he hadn't read that top sheet
我们所能做的是让这艘船投入战斗
The best thing we can do is get this ship into the fight.
Edward James Olmos真是个现象级的美好人类
Edward James Olmos is truly a phenomenally beautiful human being.
我认为成功的很大一部分原因是因为他接了这个活
He took this job and I think that is a large part of why it was successful.
他知道我们一开始就有很多不一般的东西
He knew that we had something special from the day we showed up.
他告诉我们 我们在做严肃的电视剧
He told us we were making serious television.
这种时候 你懂的 学院奖提名者告诉你
When, you know, an Academy Award nominee tells you that
这个叫《太空堡垒卡拉狄加》的科幻剧是个严肃的电视剧
this sci-fi show called Battlestar Galactica is serious television,
那你首先就会想到 他神志不清了吧
first of all you think is, you know, he's out to lunch.
也没那么丢人
It's not embarrassing.
但你直视他的眼睛 看到的是信念
When you look in his eyes and you see the conviction.
你发现他是认真的
You saw that he was taking it that seriously
那么我们也会认真起来
and it made us take it seriously
你敢忘了试试
Don't you dare forget that.
这部剧的重要意义得到了舆论认可 而且被认为是文化里程碑
That importance was recognized by the world both critically and as a cultural milestone.
作品收获的美誉是我极大的荣幸 我愧不敢当
I was very humbled and tremendously honored by the acclaim that the show got.
能参加联合国会议是非常振奋的
The UN summit was such a heady experience.
联合国代表在现场
Representatives from the United Nations came
和剧组演员及制作人一起发表讲话
and spoke along with cast members and creators of the show
讨论我们能从这部剧中学到什么
to talk about what we can learn from the show.
全是世界都是 而且只是一个种族
There's but one race and that is it.
万众一心
So say we all.
真的去联合国讨论现实中的恐怖主义
You know literally went to the UN and talked about real-life terrorism
这些话题真的很有吸引力
they were really like interesting fascinating topics
我们讨论的是具有重要意义的事情
We were talking about things that were important
与国家任务息息相关
and things that were related to the nation's mission
这就差不多是一个能引起人们关注这些问题的机会
and that this was an opportunity to sort of bring people into that conversation
通过流行文化的电视剧
by using this pop cultural show.
我不敢相信
I can't believe that
我们这部机器人到处乱跑乱射的剧竟然得到了认可
we're being recognized for this show about running around shooting robots.
我们获得了雨果奖 拿过几年美国电影协会奖
We got a Hugo Award. We won the AFI award a couple of years.
影评人协会奖
The Critics Awards.
剧集收获了洗礼般的盛赞和众多奖项
I mean the show was showered with critical acclaim and awards
我对此非常非常感激
which was very very gratifying.
BSG获得了皮博迪奖
Galactica won a Peabody.
这个奖就是标杆
They were rule.
你知道奖项 电视剧和商业之间的关系
It's you know the award and television and the business
突然我们就都赢了
and suddenly we were we had scored.
那是个意义非凡的时刻
It's really an extraordinary moment.
这真的体现了BSG在科幻剧中有多特别
It's just an a tribute to how different this was as a science fiction show
多么有创意 有多精彩
and how creative and inventive and how good it was
我想那是我第一次意识到
And I think that was that kind of first moment where I realized
我们真的在做一些有意义的事
that we were actually doing something that mattered.
在流行文化中看到BSG梗很有趣
It's fun seeing Battlestar referenced in pop culture.
我喜欢Katee Sackhoff在情景喜剧中的表演
I love it when Katee Sackhoff goes on sitcom.
你好 Howard
Hello, Howard.
我想你了
I miss you.
Salma Hayek在《我为喜剧狂》里穿了一件Frak衬衫
Salma Hayek showing up on 30 rock with a frack t-shirt.
很遗憾我要穿着这么愚蠢的T恤 跟你讲这么黑暗的故事
I'm so sorry to tell you such a dark tale while wearing such a silly t-shirt.
我们真的做到了
Now we've really arrived.
太棒了
That's fantastic.
Frak是史上最好的发明（译注：是1978原版发明的）
Frak was the best invention ever
Frak老天爷爷啊
The fraks sakes.
我喜欢这个词的一点在于
The thing I love about it is that
你的飞行员 战斗机飞行员不需要说
you don't have to have pilots, fighter pilots going
甘霖凉！草泥马！啥玩意儿啊？
Forget you! Duck you! Like What?
Frak我呢吧
Frak me.
Frak这个词对我们极其难
Frak was incredibly difficult for us
因为它本身没有意义
because it made no sense.
我是说 说frak感觉就像说外语
I mean saying frak sounded like a foreign language
有一次我要拍的一段情节是要先说一次fxxk
I used to have to do the scene one time with the f-word in it
找到那个瞬间爆粗口的感觉
to figure out how it would be said in that moment
然后再换成frak一一接上去
and then put frak in on every subsequent take
后来我们就熟能生巧了
and we got so good at it.
哦frak
Oh frak.
这个词的语境基本上都是按照口语或者语法替换的
It was basically used in every verbal and grammatical context.
可以是生理意义上的：你frak她了吗？
It could be biological: Did you frak her?
也可以是生气时的脏话：哦frak
It could be an expletive: Oh frak.
You don't want to frak with me, Bill.
你别想糊弄我 比尔
她frak了他 你frak在逗我？
She fraked them. Are you frakking kidding me?
我要frak整死你 来frak啊 我frak过他
I'm gonna frak you up. Let's frak. I frakked him.
Frak你的 Frak滚开 Frak这 Frak那
Frak you. Frak off. Frak this.
它作为单个词语出现的次数可能比其他词都多
The number times in the episodes used is probably more than any other single word a time.
《太空堡垒卡拉狄加》留下一份遗产
Battlestar Galactica created a legacy
改变了科幻能够实现的意义
and changed the perception about what sci-fi could be
我认为这部剧还会继续
I think it's a show that's going to live on
因为社会寓言及各种社会现象都不是昙花一现
because the social allegory and everything is not just for that time
它能产生持续性的影响 能够一直被人欣赏
It's something that's gonna be continued to be able to be watched and enjoyed.
在专业和创意上 这都是我最满意的一份经历
It was the most satisfying experience I've ever had professionally and creatively
非常非常幸运能够
And I'm very very lucky to have fallen into a situation
协助创作这样一份作品
where I was allowed to help create something like this
每当发现有人刚刚发现《太空堡垒卡拉狄加》 我总是很高兴
but I never tire of hearing that someone's just discovered Battlestar Galactica.
有更多人来看它
More people are looking at it,
现在看它的人比上映期间的还多
watching it today than ever watched it when it was on the air.
他的保质期似乎还没有到
It's got one of those shelf lives that doesn't seem to end.