柏林 2001年
请进 Please, come in.
要喝点什么吗 Can I offer you something to drink?
您说您是在哪所报社高就的来着 Which newspaper did you say you work for?
打扰一下 Excuse me?
您还好吗 Is everything ok?
他死了 在总统套房 He's dead. Presidential suite.
无罪谋杀：科林尼案
卡斯帕·莱宁律师 下午好 Counsellor Caspar Leinen, good afternoon.
我是科勒法官 我们通过电话 I'm Judge Koehler, we spoke on the phone.
这位是州检察官莱默斯 This is State Prosecutor Reimers.
-州检察官 -下午好 - State prosecutor... - Good afternoon.
我是莱宁 下午好 Leinen, good afternoon.
那么 So...
被告是法布里齐奥·科林尼 The defendant is Fabrizio Collini,
1934年生于比萨附近的蒙特卡蒂尼 born in 1934 in Montecatini near Pisa.
是意大利公民 Italian citizen.
他的德语很好 He speaks German reasonably well
在斯图加特附近住了超过三十年 and has lived in the Stuttgart area for over 30 years.
未婚 Not married.
他被指控在圆环酒店的总统套房 He stands accused of killing Jean-Baptiste Meyer
谋杀了让-巴蒂斯塔·迈耶 in the presidential suite of the Hotel Circle
被害者死于头部三次中枪 with three shots to the head.
好了 你想在开始前和当事人聊一下吗 Good. Would you like to speak with your client before we begin?
当然了 Of course.
那么请吧 Alright then...
你们两个都在这里等吗 And you'll both wait here?
没错 We will.
一会儿见 See you in a minute.
你好 我叫莱宁 是你的律师 Hello, my name's Leinen. I'm your attorney.
需要我通知谁你在这里吗 Should I inform anyone you're here?
你对警方做出供述了吗 Have you given a statement to the police?
很好 Good...
在我看到他们有什么指控你的证据前 You should refrain from making a statement
你应该保持沉默 until I see what evidence they have against you.
好了 那我们开始吧 Alright, then let's get started, ok?
被告还未给出任何供述 The defendant has not given a statement,
但是针对他的物证强而有力 but the physical evidence against him is compelling:
凶器上的指纹 fingerprints on murder weapon,
衣服和鞋上的血迹 blood on his clothing and shoes,
他手上的硝烟反应 powder burns on his hands,
以及目击者的证词 as well as testimony from witnesses.
科林尼先生 你是否明白对你的指控 Mr. Collini, do you understand the charges against you?
科林尼先生 Mr. Collini?
被告人目前不愿意说话 The defendant does not wish to speak at this time.
科林尼先生 你正在接受审判 Mr. Collini, I'm holding you for trial.
先生们 还有别的要说吗 Gentlemen, any more business?
-我要求证据提审 -同意 - I'd like to file a motion for discovery. - Noted.
我申请被委任为被告的公设辩护人 And l file to be assigned to the accused as his public defender.
州检察院是否反对 Does the State object?
我特此任命卡斯帕·莱宁 I hereby appoint Caspar Leinen
担任法布里齐奥·科林尼的公设辩护人 as public defender to Fabrizio Collini.
休庭 That's all.
好了 那么 Alright, then...
谢谢 先生们 Thank you, gentlemen.
莱宁先生 Mr. Leinen.
你通过律师资格考试多久了 How long is it since you passed the bar?
大概三个月了 About three months.
帮个忙 看看这个房间 Do me a favor and look around the room.
你看到什么观众了吗 Do you see an audience?
没有 No.
那你为什么要穿律师袍 So why are you wearing your robes?
你穿着律师袍去提审的吗 You wore your robes to the arraignment?
你是脑子不好还是怎么的 Are you losing it, or what?
快看 Hey, look.
我以为他辞职了 I thought he quit.
你们知道他老婆去世以后 You know he sailed across the Atlantic
他就驾船横渡了大西洋吗 after his wife died?
单枪匹马 Single-handed.
他现在回到正常的生活了 He's back in the land of the living now.
-马廷格教过你 对吧 -刑法 - You had Mattinger, right? - Criminal law.
我看了一场庭审 I watched a trial where he cross-examined
他交叉盘问了证人57天 57天 a witness for 57 days. 57 days!
法官和检察官 The judge and the prosecutor
都气炸了 were really pissed!
但是他不相信她 But he didn't believe her.
然后在第58天她终于承认 And on day 58 she admitted that
她的丈夫并没有勒索她 her husband hadn't blackmailed her.
一切都是她为了复仇而编的 She made it up, to get revenge.
你的谋杀案听上去很无望 Your murder trial sounds pretty hopeless.
没有哪个案子是真正无望的 No trial is hopeless.
不管怎么说 你还有大事要干 Anyway, you've a big job ahead.
你就该买件新的律师袍 You should buy new robes,
这样你在报纸上才会好看 so you'll look good in the papers.
好了 我们别忘乎所以了 Yeah, let's not get carried away.
怎么 他杀了汉斯·迈耶 What? He killed Hans Meyer.
什么 What?
今早收音机都在说这个 It was on the radio this morning.
MMF的老版 The owner of MMF.
迈耶机械纺织 Meyer Machine Fabrik?
德意志共和国功勋十字的获得者 Member of the Order of Merit of the Federal Republic of Germany.
你还好吗 Are you okay?
我马上回来 I'll be right back.
卡斯帕 快来 Caspar, come on!
还是我 卡斯帕·莱宁 It's me again, Caspar Leinen.
我有个关于让-巴蒂斯塔·迈耶的问题 I have a question about Jean-Baptiste Meyer.
这是我们的湖 恶心的土耳其佬 Hey! This is our lake, you shitty Turk!
你说什么 What did you say?
我不知道我外孙从哪里学来 I've no idea where my grandson learned such
这么失礼的话 真的很抱歉 a disgusting lack of hospitality. I'm truly sorry.
这案子里的受害人 那不是 The victim in the case... It's not the...
我是汉斯·迈耶 下午好 Hans Meyer, good afternoon.
对不起 卡斯帕 我是菲利普 I'm sorry, Caspar. I'm Phillip.
柏林实况转播电台 现在进行新闻播报 Radio FFM Berlin. And now, the news.
在MMF董事长汉斯·迈耶的谋杀调查中 In the investigation into the murder of MMF CEO
警方仍然一无所获 Hans Meyer, the police are still in the dark.
根据遗嘱 约汉娜·迈耶 According to a statement, Johanna Meyer,
死者的孙女 the granddaughter of the deceased,
将继承迈耶机械纺织 will take over management of Meyer Machine Fabrik.
柏林银行业的丑闻 In the Berlin banking scandal
目前还未找到解决方法 there is still no resolution in sight.
仍不清楚柏林是否 It's still unclear whether the state of Berlin...
你还开那种老古董 You're still driving that old thing.
-请节哀 -谢谢 - I'm so sorry. - Thanks.
怎么会有人想杀我祖父 Why would anyone murder my grandfather?
我和他通过电话 I spoke to him on the phone.
就在事发之前 Right before it happened.
他在抱怨 He was moaning about how
他们是怎么毁掉波茨坦广场的 they were ruining Potsdamer Platz.
故意作梗的证据 确凿无误 A testament to bloodymindedness, cast in concrete,
你知道他以前怎么说的 you know how he used to speak...
故意作梗 真有这个词吗 I mean, bloodymindedness... Is that even a word?
如果他说了 那就是有的 If he said it, it's a word.
你丈夫没来吗 Is your husband not here?
他留在伦敦 He stayed in London.
你呢 And you?
你现在肯定是顶级律师了 You must be a top attorney by now.
并不是 Not really.
汉娜马丁 Hanna?
我担任了一个案子的公设辩护人 I took a case as public defender.
好的 Okay.
对你来说是好事吗 Is that a good move for you?
我是为汉斯的凶手辩护 I'm defending Hans's killer.
什么 What?
不是我选的案子 I didn't choose the case.
我甚至不知道是他 I didn't even know it was him.
他护照上写的是让-巴蒂斯塔 不是汉斯 His passport says Jean Baptist, not Hans.
你当然不会接这个案子了 You're not taking the case, of course.
我已经接了这个案子 I already took the case.
想要退出没有那么容易的 It's not that easy to get out of it.
但这里面有个人利益冲突 But it's a conflict of interest!
我们不是亲戚 We're not related.
卡斯帕 你不能为那种人辩护 Caspar, you can't defend someone like that.
但愿上一个人点的不是番茄汤 Let's hope the last guy didn't order tomato soup.
如果真是 那后面十杯都没法喝了 If he did, forget the next 10 cups.
我是马廷格 Mattinger.
教授 我上过你的 Professor... I know, I had you in...
刑法 Criminal law.
我喜欢了解一下对手 莱宁先生 I like to know about my opponent, Mr. Leinen.
我在起诉科林尼的民事诉讼中 I'm representing the Meyer family
代表迈耶一家 in the civil case against Collini.
番茄汤 Tomato soup...
祝贺你 这是个很不错的案子 Congratulations. It's a fascinating case.
我昨天提出了动议 我想放弃这案子 I filed a motion yesterday. I want to give up the case.
那家人看着我长大 I grew up with the family.
汉斯·迈耶就像我父亲 Hans Meyer was like a father to me.
我倒不知道这些 I didn't know that.
措辞很好 Excellent wording.
我想这是你第一个走到庭审的案子 I take it this is your first case that made it to trial?
你的下一个案子可能会 You know, your next case might remind you
唤起你童年的痛苦回忆 of a tragic experience from your childhood.
或者你可能不喜欢你当事人的鼻子 Or maybe you don't like your client's nose,
再或者你觉得当事人贩那种毒 or you think the drugs he sold
真的是人渣中的人渣 make him the worst of the worst.
你觉得法庭上 Do you think personal opinions
应该存在个人观点吗 belong in a courtroom?
不 No.
你要是想当个辩护律师 You want to be a defense attorney,
就有点辩护律师的样子 then act like one.
这位是公设辩护人 莱宁先生 This is the public defender, Mr. Leinen.
我代表了被告科林尼 I'm representing the defendant, Collini.
这年轻人非常努力 The young man is very committed.
那么 Well, then...
好吧 Right...
被害人为男性 84岁 The victim is male, 84 years old,
身高1米80 93公斤 5 foot 11 inches, 205 pounds.
鼻骨粉碎 The nose is shattered,
据推测是钝器打击 presumably from blunt force...
从左边打向头部 From the left, to the head...
这些伤是死后造成的 These injuries were post-mortem.
血液与体液漏出 Blood and fluid leakage,
双耳皆有损伤迹象 signs of abrasion in both ears.
三枚子弹 严重变形了 3 projectiles, heavily deformed.
我不会做 I can't do it.
再问一次 期望值是从哪个词变来的 Once more, where does expectandum come from?
你要尝试把它看作一个物体 You try to look at it as an object,
而非一个人 not as a person.
但也不是每次都能奏效 But you don't always succeed.
期望 Expectare...
期待 To expect!
期待 期待 Expecto, expectas...
这些都是"期待"的拉丁语人称变位
期待 期待 Expectat, expectamus, expectatis, expectant.
肝 1200克 Liver, 2 pounds, 13 ounces.
右肺 800克 Right lung, 1 pound, 12 ounces.
左肺 600克 Left, 1 pound, 6 ounces.
教授 我们先走了 Professor, we're leaving.
非常感谢 Thank you.
心脏 480克 Heart, 1 pound, 1 ounce...
就这些 That's it.
第一枪来自前方 正中 The first shot, front, center...
他那时可能跪着 He was probably kneeling.
另外两枪都射穿他的左脸 The other 2 through the left side of his face...
那时他已经躺在地上了 he was already lying on the ground.
没有防御伤 No defensive wounds.
受害人一定是遭到突然袭击 The victim must have been caught unawares.
既然被告拒绝做声明 Since the defendant refuses to make a statement,
我们就要推断这是蓄意谋杀 we must assume it was intentional.
当然是有预谋的 Certainly premeditated.
莱宁先生 这些都指向了 Mr. Leinen, this all leads to a charge
一级谋杀的罪名 of first-degree murder.
晚安 Good night.
看守所 柏林 莫阿比特
你大概会被指控谋杀 You'll probably be charged with murder.
你可能会判死刑 You could get life.
如果案子中有一些感情动机 If a crime has some emotional motivation,
在法庭上会有很大影响 it can make a big difference in court.
想象一下你开了一家店 Imagine you have a shop, and a boy
一个男孩偷了一个苹果 你生气了 steals an apple, then you're angry.
但如果男孩说他两天没吃饭了 But if the kid tells you he hasn't eaten
你就没那么生气了 懂我意思吗 in two days, you're not so mad, you know?
你为什么要这么做 Why did you do it?
公司老板死后 Johanna Meyer成为MMF的董事长
动机
警方目前尚未 Investigators have so far been unable
建立起法布里齐奥·科林尼 to establish a direct connection...
与他的受害者之间的直接联系 between Fabrizio Collini and his victim...
德国功勋十字的获得者 The funeral of the Federal Cross of Merit holder
汉斯·迈耶的葬礼将在今天举行 Hans Meyer will be held today...
卡斯帕 Caspar!
多久没见了 How long has it been?
肯定有十年了 Must be 10 years.
从事故往后 对吧 Since the accident, right?
现在又是迈耶老先生 And now old Mr. Meyer.
这就像是诅咒 It's like a curse.
外套给我 我帮你熨一下 Give me your jacket. I'll iron it for you.
这又不是博物馆 去玩吧 lt's not a museum, off you go!
给你 There you go,
和新的一样 good as new!
Jo汉娜 你得吃点东西 Johanna, you have to eat something.
你没告诉她是吧 You didn't tell her.
不然她会把这菜糊你脸上 If you had, she would have thrown that food in your face.
你怎么做得出这种事 How can you do it?
爷爷以前为你做了那么多 After everything Grandpa did for you.
我是律师啊 I'm an attorney.
医生也得去救连环杀人犯 If I was a doctor, I'd have to save a serial killer.
好吧 Sure.
你说 这事和MMF有关系吗 Do you think it might have something to do with the MMF?
我问谁好呢 Who can I ask?
你现在要我帮忙吗 You want me to help you now?
或许和有组织的犯罪有关 Maybe there's a connection to organized crime.
汉斯提到过敲诈勒索的打算吗 Did Hans ever talk about blackmail attempts?
他永远不会让他的公司接触灰色地带 He would never have taken his firm into grey areas.
你明明知道 And you know that.
连内幕交易都没有吗 Not even insider trading?
或者任何不那么正常的交易 Some kind of dodgy dealing?
我想感谢在座的所有人 l'd like to thank you all very much
感谢你们的到来和同情 for coming and for your sympathy.
在座大多把汉斯·迈耶看作企业家和朋友 Most of you knew Hans Meyer as an entrepreneur and a friend...
而我却想在这里谈谈我的爷爷 ...but I would like to say a few words about my grandfather.
正如各位所知 我们不是一个大家族 As many of you know, our family wasn't very big...
我的父母与我的弟弟 And when my parents and my brother
不幸英年早逝 were taken from us far too young...
爷爷就成了我唯一的家人 ...he was the only person I had.
我会十分想念我的爷爷 I'll miss my grandfather very much.
他的大度和率真 他的耐心和毅力 His openness, his patience,
他对于古董车的如同孩子般的热情 his almost childlike enthusiasm for old cars...
还有他发明的那些单词 他总是坚持说 ...and the words he would create, which he always insisted...
在字典里也可以找到 ...were to be found in the dictionary.
他也有另外一面 不是所有人都知道 And there was another side to him that not everyone knew...
他可以去爱 并且不求任何回报 He could love without expecting anything in return.
于是任何被他放在心上的人 And anyone he took to his heart...
都能感觉到满满的爱和慷慨 ...was overwhelmed with love and generosity.
猜猜我是谁 Guess who!
你有一双粗糙的手 With those rough hands,
你只可能是园丁弗朗茨了 you could only be Franz the gardener.
你什么时候回来的 When did you get back?
等一下 住手啦 Stop it! Get off me!
那他是谁 And who's that?
他是卡斯帕 That's Caspar.
啊哈 所以你就是饥饿的毛毛虫 Aha! So you're the hungry caterpillar
搬进我们家 吃光我们所有食物的那位 who's moved in and is eating all our food?
那你就是在说出来吓死人的英国名校 And you're the older sister who's studying art history...
读美术史的姐姐 ...at the "oh my god" academy in England.
不 不 不 你们疯了吗 Oh, no, no, no! Are you crazy?
伯恩哈德 你怎么会来这里 What are you doing here, Bernhard?
你好 卡斯帕 Hello, Caspar.
我想着至少得参加他的葬礼 I thought I shouId at least come to the funeral...
我知道他死讯后给你写了封信 I wrote you a letter after I heard he was dead.
我本想见他一面 I wish I had met him.
好冲他扔西红柿 叫他资本主义的猪吗 So you could throw tomatoes at him and call him a capitalist pig?
是感谢他为我儿子所做的一切 To thank him for everything he did for my son.
几周前我和你母亲聊天 I talked to your mother a couple of weeks ago.
她在安塔利亚很好 在享受退休生活 She's doing fine in Antalya, she's enjoying her retirement...
我知道 I know.
我自己没剩几年了 I've only got a few more years myseIf.
不过我喜欢在书店工作 Although, l enjoy working in the bookstore.
我挺乐意接着干下去 你知道吗 l'd like to keep working, you know?
你在说什么 伯恩哈德 父子谈心吗 What are you up to, Bernhard? This father-son thing?
我们以前试过 没成 你知道的 We tried all that before, it didn't work, you have to see that?
我们连互相了解都做不到 We don't even know each other.
是的 Yes...
好 Okay.
保重 孩子 Take care, boy.
再见 Bye.
我经常想象如果菲利普没有死会怎么样 l often wonder what would have happened if Philipp hadn't died.
可能也还是只有那一个夏天 Maybe it would have only lasted that one summer anyway.
过后我回到伦敦 你也开始读大学 l'd have gone back to London, you were going to start university...
也许我也会申请伦敦的大学 Maybe l'd have applied to universities in London.
也许这次我们会做得更好 Maybe we'll do better this time?
你去哪了 Where were you?
我没地方停车 l couldn't find a parking space.
你逮住这种世纪大案 You caught the trial of the century
还到处找停车位 and you're looking for a parking space.
我没让你坐公交车 I'm not saying you should take the bus,
但你就不能打辆车吗 but couldn't you have called a cab?
很遗憾 我们现在还不能作出陈述 Unfortunately, we can't make a statement at this time.
或许晚些时候 Maybe later...
控方的主张是 ...it is the prosecution's contention that
法布里齐奥·科林尼为此案凶手 Fabrizio Collini committed this crime...
他作案手段残暴无情 并有充分预谋 ...brutally, in cold blood, with full premeditation.
同时 对于被告人的作案动机 At the same time, we know nothing about
我们一无所知 the defendant's motive...
我们掌握的信息还也不足以判断 We don't know enough to say
被告人计划和作案 whether the defendant planned and committed...
全体起立 Please stand!
是否均为独自一人 ...the crime alone.
不过 今天只有法布里齐奥·科林尼受审 Today, however, only Fabrizio Collini is standing trial...
而我确信 你们会同意公诉方 ...and I am convinced that you will agree with the State...
将此罪行定为谋杀 ...when we characterize this crime as murder...
并主张最高刑罚 ...and demand the maximum penalty.
辩方律师 你方当事人是否愿意作出供述 Counsel for the defense, would your client like to make a statement?
辩方律师 Counsellor?
在 Yes?
你的委托人愿意开口吗 Does your client want to speak?
我的当事人不 My client doesn't...
能否请你对着面前的麦克风说话 Would you please speak into the microphone in front of you?
我的当事人不愿意作出供述 My client doesn't wish to make a statement.
除了被告人的DNA以外 ln addition to the defendant's DNA,
我们在受害人的衣服上 we only found minor traces of one other person...
只发现了些微的痕迹 ...on the victim's clothing.
第二个DNA来自受害人的长期管家 The second DNA is from his long-time housekeeper.
被告人的鞋子上残留着脑部组织 The defendant's shoes had remnants of brain matter...
甚至骨头碎屑 ...and even particles of bone.
法医报告对此怎么说 What did the forensic reports say about those?
这些碎屑也都属于汉斯·迈耶 They belonged to Hans Meyer as well.
我询问他是否一切都好 l asked if he was alright.
他很安静 He was very quiet.
他额头这里溅到了一些血 He had some blood splattered on his forehead here...
然后他说 他死了 Then he said, "He's dead."
当时科林尼先生是否特别焦虑或激动 Was Mr. Collini particularly agitated or emotional?
没有 No.
他看上去有点心不在焉 He was kind of vacant...
我可能不应该这样说 不过 l don't know if I should say this here, but...
如果他点一杯浓缩咖啡 我也不会惊讶 l wouldn't have been surprised if he had ordered an espresso.
左眼破损 脱离眼眶 The left eye was destroyed and hanging out of its socket...
颧骨和鼻子也损毁了 Cheekbone and nose were destroyed.
用外行人的话来说 ln layman's terms...
打破一个人的颧骨容易吗 ls it easy to break someone's cheekbone?
头骨十分坚硬 我猜测 The skull is very solid. l assume that...
我假设加害者用尽全力 l assume that the perpetrator kicked Hans Meyer
对着汉斯·迈耶的脸 with full force several times...
踢了好几次 ...in the face.
马廷格对他的工作很擅长 Mattinger is very good at his job.
这样下去 你会死在狱里 If it goes on like this, you'll die in prison.
现在听我说 科林尼先生 Now you listen to me, Mr. Collini.
你知道汉斯·迈耶对我有多重要吗 Do you know how much Hans Meyer meant to me?
那个男人 你冲他的头开了三枪 The man you shot in the head three times...
又踢他的头踢到鞋子都坏了 ...and then stamped on his head until your shoe broke.
他是唯一一个陪伴过我的人 He was the only one who had time for me
因为我母亲一直在工作 because my mother had to work all the time...
而我父亲在我两岁时离开了家 ...and my father left when I was 2.
你知道吗 You know what?
我不管了 l don't care anymore...
从现在开始 我就按流程走了 From now on, it's all by the book.
法庭上见 See you in court.
他还在吗 ls he still alive?
谁 Who?
你的父亲 他还健在吗 Your father, is he still alive?
是的 他住在法兰克福 Yes. He lives in Frankfurt.
你们经常见面吗 Do you see each other often?
你最好多看望他 You should see him more.
他不会永远都在的 He won't be there forever.
你为什么杀他 Why did you kill him?
我不想给你带来麻烦 律师 l don't want to cause you any trouble, Counsellor.
靠 Fuck!
超级赌注 风水轮流转
我能点个披萨吗 Can I have that pizza there?
外送的打九折 There's a 10 percent discount for take-away
外送谢谢 布雷姆路3号 名字是莱宁 Delivery, please. Brehmstraße 3, the name is Leinen.
我来吧 正好顺路 l can take it. lt's on my way anyway.
那你可以把我带上 So, you can take me with you.
那不可能 出了事保险不赔 That's not possible. Insurance.
你不用担心这个 You don't need to worry.
作为外送司机 你的薪水是披萨店付的 对吧 As the delivery driver, you invoice the pizzeria for your time, right?
所以你是独立的合同雇员 That makes you an autonomous subcontractor,
不承担法律责任 so you're legally excluded from liability.
你经常耍这种手段吗 Do you pull this trick often?
我车坏了 My car broke down.
走吧 Come on.
不送披萨的时候你会做些什么 What do you do when you're not delivering Pizzas?
我在读书 商业管理和意大利语 I'm studying. Business administration and ltalian.
商业管理 我本该猜到的 Sure, business administration...l should've guessed.
你看上去也不像一个律师 You don't look much like a lawyer either.
为什么 Why?
一个土耳其律师吗 Well, a Turkish lawyer?
柏林检察院
头部中三枪
意大利人
枪杀
大企业家
MMF董事会敦促加快进程
投资者开始担心
此案震惊柏林
惊天谜案
背后是黑手党吗
他的动机是什么
意大利共和国
蒙特卡蒂尼
我很高兴你能来 I'm glad you could make it.
我对政治和别人的观点从来不感兴趣 l was never interested in politics or the opinion of others...
不像我的同事们 ...unlike many of my colleagues.
法律始终是我优先考虑的事 The law was always my top priority.
我一直相信法治 l always believed in the rule of law.
那现在呢 过了四十年你依然相信吗 And now, after 40 years? Do you still believe in it?
我管理着30人的律所 l run a law firm with 30 employees,
所以很少关心法律 so it's only rarely about the law...
主要是关心和解 ...it's much more about settlements,
交易 尽可能延长计费工时 deals and billing as many hours as possible.
所以我才有钱买下在瓦恩湖的别墅 lt paid for my villa on Wannsee.
警方发现了科林尼给迈耶的信 The police found a letter from Collini to Meyer
信中他说自己是记者 in which he claimed he was a journalist.
所以迈耶一开始才会让他进入套房 That's why Meyer let him into the suite in the first place.
我知道 l know.
我完全想不到过失杀人的可能 l can forget manslaughter...
我想向你发出要约 l'd like to make you an offer.
让科林尼认罪 Get Collini to confess.
大家都不想花太久在庭审上 Nobody wants a long trial.
公诉方不想 公司也不想 Neither the public prosecutor, nor the company...
我猜约汉娜·迈耶也会愿意结束这一切 And I guess Johanna Meyer will also be glad when it's all over.
你会掌舵吗 Can you take the tiller?
我认识莱默斯很久了 l've known Reimers for a long time.
我想 如果科林尼供认了 l think if Collini confesses...
我可以说服他减轻指控 ...l can persuade him to reduce the charges.
或许能忽视其预谋 Maybe ignore the premeditation.
这样一来就算是过失杀人了 Which would mean manslaughter.
注意风向 Pay attention to the wind!
如果你当庭供认 最少只会被判七年刑期 If you confess in court, you could get as little as seven years.
表现良好的话 三到四年就能出狱 With good behavior, you're out after 3 or 4 years.
我不在乎 l don't care.
你知道 你的一言不发 Do you have any idea how much pain
给那些亲属带去多大的痛苦吗 your silence is causing the relatives?
认罪的事情怎么样了 律师 How's our confession coming along, Counsellor?
再给我几天 Give me a few more days.
我对你很有信心 I have complete faith in you.
别忘了你的承诺 You'll remember your promise?
当然 要约依然成立 Of course, the offer still stands.
我不想一个人 l don't want to be alone.
进来吧 Come in.
马廷格说科林尼已经认罪了 Mattinger said Collini had confessed?
差不多就要结束了 lt's practically over.
早上好 女士们先生们 Good morning, ladies and gentlemen...
我们在柏林地方法院发回报道 ...we're reporting from the Berlin Regional Court.
即便有了戏剧性的认罪 Even after the dramatic confession,
犯罪细节仍不明朗 details of the crime remain unclear.
马廷格先生 对您来说案件已经结束了吗 Mr. Mattinger, the case is over for you, right?
众所周知 没有什么是百分百确定的 As you know, nothing's certain,
无论是在法庭上 还是在大海上 in court and on the high seas.
弹道测试是十分困难的 The ballistics tests were difficult.
但是 弹壳与凶器相吻合 However, the projectiles matched the murder weapon.
瓦尔特P38 Walther P38.
在有预谋的杀人案里 This type of weapon is not typicaI
使用这类武器并不常见 for a perpetrator connected with organized crime...
这种武器不仅相当少见 后坐力也很强 ... the weapon is quite rare and has very heavy recoiI.
被告拒绝供述 The defendant refused to make a statement...
所以我们无从得知他从哪里得到武器 ...so we know nothing about how he found the weapon...
但我们猜想他是从黑市上买来的 ...but we assume that he acquired it on the black market.
枪托上的指纹与被告相吻合 The fingerprints on the grip cIearIy match the defendant...
不好意思 你现在有时间吗 Excuse me. Do you have a second?
律师 Counsellor...
关于凶器 我有个疑问 l have a question about the murder weapon.
你说这种武器很罕见 You said it was rare.
的确 Yes, indeed.
要是我想买把枪 从黑市随便买把枪 If I wanted to buy a gun, any gun on the bIack market...
有可能最终会买一把瓦尔特P38吗 ...wouId I be Iikely to end up with a WaIther P38?
几乎不可能 Almost impossibIe.
不得不说 想买这种枪要花大力气的 l'd say you'd have to Iook for it specificaIIy.
你想说什么 What's your point?
多谢你的宝贵时间 Thank you for your time.
我今天不想一个人 Hey. Today, I don't want to be aIone.
好 那你过来吧 我等你 Okay. Come over. I'm expecting you.
我们来这儿做什么 What are we doing here?
等着看吧 Wait and see.
这是真的吗 ls it reaI?
我觉得是 l think so.
我能摸一下吗 Can I touch it?
站住 Stop!
你们不许再进书房 我说真的 You must never enter the library, and I'm serious!
没有我在场决不能进 Never without me!
律师 Counsellor.
早上好 Good morning.
-睡得好吗 -当然 怎么会不好 - You sIept weIl? - ExcelIent, why shouIdn't l?
没理由睡不好觉啊 There's no reason not to.
我需要跟我的委托人聊聊 拜托了 l need a moment with my client, pIease.
-马上就要开庭了 -很快的 - The trial is about to begin. - It'Il be quick.
-他又怎么了 -这年轻人有些神经质 - What's his probIem now? - The young man's very jumpy.
我想让你看一眼这个 l want you to take a Iook at this.
科林尼先生 你有没有 Had you ever seen a weapon
在犯罪之前见过这把武器 Iike this before the crime, Mr. Collini?
拜托了 科林尼先生 Mr. Collini, pIease!
你为什么要折磨自己呢 Why do you torture yourseIf?
你为什么不直接告诉我发生了什么 Why don't you just teIl me what happened?
因为结果都是一样的 Because it doesn't make a difference.
时间到了 律师 CounseIlor, it's time!
-结果会不一样的 -时间到了 - lt does make a difference! - That's enough!
科林尼先生 我能帮助你的 Mr. Collini, I can heIp you.
请坐下 Please be seated.
由于被告 Since the defendant...
法官阁下 Your honor!
怎么了 Yes?
我想要申请延期一周审理 l wouId like to file for continuance for one week.
辩方律师 这太可笑了 Counsellor, this is ridicuIous!
莱默斯博士 马廷格教授 莱宁先生 Dr. Reimers, Professor Mattinger, Mr. Leinen...
请随我到办公室来 Please join me in my chambers.
今天的审理结束了 The triaI is over for today.
浪费时间 Wasted time.
莱宁先生 你是疯了吗 Mr. Leinen, are you out of your mind?
我必须要确认一件事情 l need to be sure about one thing.
你赶紧向法官道歉 You wiIl apoIogize to the judge immediateIy
并且撤回你的申请 and withdraw your motion.
来听听我们年轻的同事是怎么想的 Right, let's see what our young colleague has on his mind.
莱宁先生 你是想你的第一个案件 Mr. Leinen, are you planning to break alI
就打破所有的规矩吗 the ruIes in your first triaI?
是你这么教他的吗 Did you teach him that?
我可不觉得我能教莱宁先生什么东西 l don't think I can teach Mr. Leinen anything!
直说吧 整这么出闹剧到底想干什么 Out with it, CounselIor. What's the purpose of this farce?
关于我的委托人的动机 有了新的证据 There's new evidence regarding my cIient's motive
我必须要调查清楚 and I need to investigate it.
什么新的证据 What new evidence?
你有四天时间 You have four days.
谢谢您 Thank you.
你的车又坏了吗 还是你要约我出去 Did your car break down again or have you come to ask me out?
你知道一个叫蒙特卡蒂尼的地方吗 Do you know a place caIled Montecatini?
不知道 Nope...
蒙特卡蒂尼吗 Montecatini?
在比萨附近 lt's near Pisa.
我需要一个翻译 l need an interpreter.
一天付150马克 l'II pay 150 Deutschmarks a day.
我能先送完这个吗 Can I deIiver these first?
-路德维希堡联邦档案馆 -还是我卡斯帕·莱宁 - FederaI Archive Ludwigsburg. - It's Caspar Leinen again...
我早上打电话询问过让-巴蒂斯塔·迈耶 l caIIed this morning about Jean-Baptiste Meyer.
你很走运 我们找到了一些他的资料 You're in Iuck. We've got quite a few hits here.
太好了 Great!
可以给我发一份复印件吗 CouId you send me a copy of the documents?
这一共有300多页呢 We're taIking about more than 300 pages.
每一册 Per foIder.
好吧 那一共有多少册呢 Okay, how many foIders are there?
五册 Five.
您得亲自来一趟 律师 You'lI have to come by, CounseIlor.
好的 多谢 之后再联系 Yes, thank you. l'II get back to you.
开车去路德维希堡 Drive to Ludwigsburg,
读1500多页资料 还要去意大利 read 1 ,500 pages and ItaIy?
四天之内怎么可能全部做完 How do you want to do alI that in four days?
靠我们自己肯定是完不成的 We'II never get it done on our own.
莱宁书店 Leinen Books.
床给你了 l made the bed..
洗手间在那边角落 The toiIet's around the corner.
那 你睡哪呢 But... Where wiII you sIeep?
我有个很不错的睡袋 l've got a good sIeeping bag.
晚安 Good night.
很高兴你在这过夜 I'm realIy glad you're staying over.
不了 谢谢 No, thank you.
由于交易会 旅馆都订不到房间 There were no hoteI rooms because of the trade fair.
你要到路德维希堡去 So, you have to go to Ludwigsburg, and read
还要读1000多页材料 只有三天时间 over 1 ,000 pages and you onIy have three days.
我阅读很快 没问题的 I'm a fast reader, I'Il manage.
多谢你 Thank you.
她对你来说太野了点 不是吗 A IittIe wiId for you, isn't she?
我们只是工作关系 We're coIIeagues. That's aII.
你呢 And you?
你母亲 Your mother...
我们俩过不到一起去这件事 The fact that it didn't work out for us...
我都已经接受了 l've come to terms with that.
但是你和我 But you and me...
意大利托斯卡纳区 蒙特卡蒂尼
你不是说不懂意大利语吗 Didn't you say you don't speak Italian?
我在学校学的拉丁语 l had Latin in schooI.
继续学下去 你就不再需要我了 Keep going Iike that and you won't need me anymore.
他只认识一个叫AntoneIla 科林尼的 WeII, he only knew an AntoneIla Collini,
但是她两个月之前死了 but she died two months ago.
一位老妇人告诉我住在这里的人认识科林尼 An oId woman told me that the guy who lives here knew Collini.
我说德语 l speak German.
我是代表法布里齐奥·科林尼 l represent Fabrizio Collini.
有人告诉我们你认识他 We were toId you know him.
法布里齐奥 他怎么了 Fabrizio. What is it?
他有麻烦了 He's in trouble.
有没有一位叫汉斯·迈耶来敲过门 Does the name Hans Meyer ring a beIl?
-早上好 -早上好 - Good morning. - Good morning.
Jo汉娜在吗 ls Johanna in?
她在客厅会见客人 She's in a meeting in the lounge.
你看起来一团糟 You Iook terribIe!
我必须要求您不要对任何人提起此事 l must ask you not to taIk to anyone about this.
关于发生的事 有一些不愉快的细节 There are some unpIeasant detaiIs about what happened...
我觉得您没有必要知道 ...which l wouId like to spare you.
为公司着想 对莱宁先生一个字都不要讲 And for the good of the company, not a word to Mr. Leinen.
你还是喜欢这一辆 是吗 You aIways Iiked that one, right?
汉斯 我道歉 Hans, l shouId apoIogize...
这是个经典款 lt's a cIassic.
外形 The shape...
还有线条 The straight Iines...
你要是能顺利毕业 它就是你的了 If you finish schooI with the grades you need, it's yours.
我不能接受 l can't accept that.
卡斯帕 不用说了 No discussion, Caspar.
反正我也不喜欢开它 l never Iiked driving it anyway.
开着它就像船在糖浆里打转一样 lt turns like a ship saiIing in molasses.
糖浆 MoIasses?
我去了蒙特卡蒂尼 l was in Montecatini.
我知道发生了什么事情 l know what happened.
1944年6月19日 On 19 June, 1944.
给 外面地上放着的 Here. lt was outside on the ground.
你想干什么 What do you want?
真不错 Nice!
很现代 Modern!
魔鬼前去拜访一位律师 The devil visits a Iawyer...
"我能为你做些什么" "What can I do for you?"
"我是魔鬼" "I'm the devil."
"我看得出来 那么我能为你做什么呢" "WeIl, I can see that. So what can I do for you?"
魔鬼说道 "听着" "Listen", says the deviI.
"你将成为有史以来最伟大的律师" "You wilI be the greatest Iawyer of aIl time,
"你将赢得每一起诉讼" you wiII win every singIe case...
"作为回报 你要将你的灵魂出卖给我" ln return you'Il give me your souI,
"还有你孩子的 你父母的" the souIs of your children, your parents...
"你最好的五个朋友的灵魂" ...and the souIs of your five best friends."
那位律师看了看天花板 思考了片刻 The Iawyer looks at the ceiling, thinks for a moment,
向前探出身体问道 "好 但条件是什么" leans forward again and says: "Fine, but what's the catch?"
放手吧 年轻人 Let it be, young man.
你的新证据 你藏起来的王牌 Your new evidence, the trump card up your sleeve...
把它放回原处吧 Leave it where it is.
真相 或者说你认为的真相 The truth, or what you think is the truth,
对任何人都没有任何好处 is of no use to anyone.
它会对约汉娜·迈耶造成巨大伤害 lt'll hurt Johanna Meyer very badIy.
别把Jo汉娜牵扯进来 Leave Johanna out of this.
我给你最后一次机会 I'm offering you our deal one Iast time.
接受吧 让科林尼多享受享受意大利的美丽夏日 Take it. Let Collini enjoy a few more beautifuI summers in ItaIy.
迈耶公司是杜塞尔多夫一家私人银行的股东 Meyer Factories are part owners of a private bank in Dusseldorf.
它正面临一起有关内幕交易的诉讼 lt's facing an insider trading trial and they'd be happy...
他们很高兴请你去为其中一名被告辩护 ...if you represented one of the defendants.
日薪2500马克以上 其余支出另计 Your daily rate is 2,500 Deutschmarks pIus expenses.
诉讼至少要持续100天 The triaI wiII Iast at Ieast 100 days.
你害怕了 You're scared.
害怕我不会按照你为我安排好的角色去演 You're scared that I won't pIay the roIe you picked out for me.
法庭上见 See you in court.
还有 对这种小事情要上点心 Oh, and pay attention to detaiIs Iike this...
看起来很寒酸 对我们这个行业的影响也不好 lt Iooks shabby and harms our entire profession.
抱歉迟到了 Sorry I'm Iate.
没关系 No problem.
走吧 我饿了 Let's go, I'm hungry.
我有事跟你说 l need to telI you something.
我知道 l know.
他们昨天跟我讲了汉斯的事 They toId me about Hans yesterday.
那是很久以前的事了 lt was so Iong ago.
现在翻出来对大家都没有好处 lt doesn't heIp anyone to bring that aII up now.
可能会帮到科林尼 lt might help Collini.
这不重要 lt's not important.
现在我们才是最重要的 We are aII that matters now.
我打算从公司辞职了 I'm going to step down from the company.
我想重新当个摄影师 l'd like to take photos again...
汉娜 我明天要在法庭呈上新证据 Hanna! I'm going to present the new evidence at court tomorrow.
不 你不会 No, you're not.
我看到你和马廷格一起了 l saw you with Mattinger.
是他授意你的吗 Did he brief you?
-还是你派他来收买我的 -放屁 - Or did you send him here to buy me? - BulIshit!
你时隔许久又跟我重新开始 Was it his idea to start things
也是他的意思吗 up with me again after alI this time?
卡斯帕 你去死吧 Fuck you, Caspar!
你又做了什么呢 And what did you do?
你以为我没发现你在我们家附近 Do you think I didn't notice you
鬼鬼祟祟地不干好事吗 poking around our place?
我会尽我最大的能力为我的顾客辩护 l wiIl defend my cIient as best l can.
你不能这样 Don't do it!
我是一名律师 I'm an attorney.
你能当上律师是谁的功劳 And that's thanks to one man: my grandfather,
是我祖父 and you know it.
现在你却反咬一口 要摧毁他的名声 And now you want to destroy his reputation?
要不是他 你现在还在卖烤肉呢 Without him you'd be working in a kebab shop!
请卡特琳·施万到证人席 CalIing Katrin Schwan to the stand.
请坐 Please, take a seat.
请陈述你的姓名 年龄 职业 Please state your name, age, occupation
及居住地 以供记录 and residence for the record.
卡特琳·施万 历史学家 45岁 Katrin Schwan, historian, 45,
我住在路德维希堡 l Iive in Ludwigsburg.
请提问 Go ahead.
施万女士 感谢您出庭 Ms. Schwan, thank you for coming.
您在联邦档案馆 You've been at the Federal Archive
已经工作了数年 没错吧 for a number of years, is that right?
我是研究项目"记录与评估"的负责人 I'm the head of the research unit "Records/Appraisal."
您能告诉我们让-巴蒂斯塔·迈耶 Can you telI us if Jean-Baptiste Meyer, born
是否生于1916年3月12日 on March 12, 1916,
并曾在二战中服役呢 served in WorId War II?
不能 还是应该说能 他没有 No! Or rather yes, I can. He didn't.
没有吗 No?
应该说他用的不是这个名字 Not under that name.
国防军中有大约一万六千名 There were about 16,000 Wehrmacht
姓迈耶的人 personneI with the surname Meyer...
只不过写法不尽相同 ...with aII of the different speIIings.
其中有1034人名叫汉斯 1 ,034 of them were caIIed Hans,
其中又有408人的姓氏写法完全一致 408 of these speIIed Meyer with -e-y...
只有两个人 ...and exactIy 2 of them shared the same
与被害人让-巴蒂斯塔·迈耶是同一天的生日 birthday as the victim, Jean-Baptiste Meyer.
其中一位四十多岁就去世了 One of them died in his mid 40's.
他是来自乌克马克区利兴的木匠 A carpenter from Lychen in the Uckermark.
在斯大林格勒死于腹部中枪 He died of a gunshot to the stomach in StaIingrad.
另一位呢 And the other one?
另一位汉斯·迈耶跟让-巴蒂斯塔·迈耶 The other Hans Meyer, the same height and
身高相同 同一天生日 date of birth as Jean-Baptiste Meyer...
1943-1945年间驻扎在意大利 ...was stationed in ItaIy from 1943 to 1945.
他的身份是什么 And what was his roIe?
武装党卫军的一名长官 He was an officer of the Waffen SS.
请肃静 Order, please!
这个你知道吗 Did you know that?
-你不知道吗 -不知道 - Didn't you? - No.
请肃静 谢谢 Order, please. Thank you.
我的提问结束了 谢谢您 施万女士 l have no further questions. Thank you, Ms. Schwan.
控方还需要提问吗 WouId the prosecution care to cross examine?
先生们 GentIemen?
谢谢 Thank you.
法官大人 辩方请求 Your honor! The defense wouId Iike to
克劳迪奥·卢凯西先生出庭作证 caII Mr. CIaudio Lucchesi to the stand.
请等一下 此人不在证人列表里 One moment, pIease. That name is not on the witness Iist.
辩护律师 我必须提醒你 CounseI for the defense, l must urge you
请遵守常规流程 to stick to the usuaI procedures.
这位证人从被告人的家乡 The witness has travelIed up from the
比萨附近的村庄而来 defendant's home viIIage near Pisa...
我也是刚刚得知他的到来 l onIy just found out he had arrived.
好吧 但下不为例 莱宁先生 Alright, but just this once, Mr. Leinen.
-请证人 -克劳迪奥·卢凯西 - So, caIIing the witness... - CIaudio Lucchesi.
克劳迪奥·卢凯西上庭 ...CIaudio Lucchesi to the stand.
克劳迪奥·卢凯西先生 请坐 Mr. CIaudio Lucchesi, pIease.
需要翻译吗 Do we need an interpreter?
证人会说德语 The witness speaks German.
作为记录 你叫什么名字 先生 For the record: What's your name, sir?
你的出生地和居住地分别是哪里 When were you born? PIace of residence?
克劳迪奥·卢凯西 1934年6月9日出生于比萨 CIaudio Lucchesi. Born June 9 1934 in Pisa.
现在居住于蒙特卡蒂尼 l Iive in Montecatini.
你的职业是什么 What do you do for a Iiving?
我是一名德法译员 I'm a transIator for German and French.
卢凯西先生 能否先问问您今天出庭是自愿的吗 Mr. Lucchesi, may I first ask if you came here today voIuntarily?
当然 Of course.
但是一开始您并不想出庭 But initiaIIy you didn't want to.
没错 No.
为什么呢 Why not?
时间无法倒流 You can't turn back time.
您的父亲叫做阿尔伯托 卢凯西 Your father's name was Alberto Lucchesi.
是 Yes.
能跟我们说说他的遭遇吗 CouId you pIease telI us what happened to him?
战后他被判处并执行了死刑 在1945年 He was sentenced to death and executed after the war. In 1945.
反对 这个问题 Objection! I realIy don't see what this
与本案无关 has to do with this triaI.
请继续 Please continue.
他被判有罪并立即处决 就在比萨 He was convicted and executed immediateIy. ln Pisa.
你父亲被指控的罪名是什么 What was your father accused of?
勾结德国人 Collaboration with the Germans.
他当时也是名翻译 He was aIso an interpreter.
名字 Name?
请坐 Please.
你不用怕我 You needn't be afraid of me.
我只是想认识认识我手下的人 l just Iike to get to know alI of my employees.
那位官员的名字叫什么 What was the officer's name?
汉斯·迈耶 Hans Meyer.
肃静 请肃静 Quiet! Quiet, please.
控方需要做陈述吗 WouId the prosecution Iike to make a statement?
是的 Yes.
很显然 辩方律师是想要 The counseI for the defense is cIearIy trying
抹黑让-巴蒂斯塔·迈耶的名声 to bIacken the name of Jean-Baptiste Meyer...
从而扭曲迈耶先生才是此案的受害人 ...and distract from the fact that Mr. Meyer
这个事实 is the victim in this triaI.
请不要忘记这一点 Let's not forget that, pIease.
律师先生 CounseIlor?
卢凯西先生 您刚刚说您的父亲 Mr. Lucchesi, you said that your father
阿尔伯托因为替德国人工作 Alberto was sentenced to death...
被判了死刑 ...for collaboration with the Germans,
而他只是一名翻译官 even though he was onIy an interpreter.
这不太好理解 lt's hard to understand.
1944年夏天的一个晚上 大概十点左右 On a late summer's day in 1944, at around 10 in the evening...
在比萨特伦托咖啡厅里发生了一起爆炸 ...a bomb exploded in the Cafe Trento in Pisa.
造成了两名德国士兵丧生 lt kiIIed two German soIdiers.
那是游击队的一次暗杀行动 A Partisan assassination.
所有人都知道德国人会如何反应 Everyone knew what the Germans' response wouId be.
这里的人在保护那些游击队 The peopIe are protecting these partisans.
很明显 lt's obvious.
所以 从今天开始我们这样做 And so, as of today, we wiIl proceed as foIIows:
有一个德国人被杀 我们就杀十个游击队员 For every German kiIled, 10 partisans wilI die.
或者是他们的支持者 或者俘虏 Or supporters, hostages...
或者是那些看上去像是 ...and anyone who even Iooks Iike he's
想要保护那些强盗的人 thinking of protecting these bandits.
十命偿一命 Ten for one.
只有这样才能彻底摧毁他们的抵抗 lt's the onIy way to break the resistance.
十命偿一命 Ten for one!
卢凯西 你想像上帝一样掌握生杀予夺吗 Lucchesi, wouId you Iike to pIay God?
少校 请不要这样 Mr. Sturmbannführer, pIease no!
那就你来 Then you do it.
这里 怎么样 What about... here!
蒙特卡蒂尼 Montecatini.
是 长官 Yes, Sir!
十命偿一命 Ten for one.
二十名平民被枪杀 20 civilians shot dead...
作为两名德国士兵被杀的代价 ...in retaIiation for the 2 German soIdiers.
带过来 Bring them here.
行动 Let's go!
开门 Open up!
晚上好 Buona sera.
你们好啊 HelIo there...
我们也不想这样做 We don't like doing this.
大点声 Louder!
但是我们希望 But we hope...
以后 不再有人给游击队 ...that in future these partisans...
提供庇护和帮助 ...wiIl not find sheIter and help.
别选小孩 No chiIdren!
老实点 还有你 Quiet! You, too!
你个蠢货 You idiot!
别害怕 小朋友 Don't worry, my boy.
你叫什么名字 What's your name?
法布里齐奥 CoIlini Fabrizio CoIlini.
科林尼先生 Mr. CoIIini?
你愿意作证吗 WouId you be wiIIing to testify?
辩方律师请求法布里齐奥 科林尼作证 The defense caIls Fabrizio CoIIini.
科林尼先生 请上证人席 Mr. CoIIini? Take the stand, pIease.
卢凯西先生 谢谢 Thank you, Mr Lucchesi.
当时发生了什么 科林尼先生 What happened then, Mr. CoIIini?
然后他问到了我父亲 Then he asked me about my father.
你爸爸在哪 Where's your father?
很好 Good...
把他爸带出来 The father.
可他说他爸爸是无辜的 But he says his father had nothing to do with it!
他不是游击队员 He's not a partisan!
准备 Ready!
过去 站成一排 Get over there. ln a row.
瞄准 Aim!
十八 18...
十九 19...
二十 20.
射击 Fire!
准备 Ready!
瞄准 Aim!
射击 Fire!
休庭半小时 The court wiII recess for haIf an hour.
谢谢 Thank you.
谢谢您 再见 Thank you, goodbye.
走吧 回头见 Come on. See you Iater.
我一会儿再去找你 l'II be with you in a second.
我祖父是什么样的人 你再清楚不过 You know exactly what kind of person my grandfather was.
他只是在执行命令 He was foIlowing orders.
附带民事诉讼的原告律师要求作出陈述 The counseI for the civil claim has asked to make a statement.
请开始 马廷格教授 Go ahead, Professor Mattinger.
辩方律师已经为我们 The counciI for the defense has
清晰地描绘了1944年 vividIy demonstrated that in 1944...
在比萨附近 ...near Pisa,
一起为报复游击队袭击 a 10-foId retaliation was inflicted on civilians,
而发起的屠杀数十位平民的行动 in response to a Partisan attack.
值得一提的是 这种类型的报复行动 By the way, this form of retaIiation was not unusuaI...
在二战中并不罕见 也非德国军队独创 ...and was not onIy used by German forces in World War Il.
我们无法切身地体会到 We cannot imagine the suffering
受害人及其家人所承受的痛苦 of the victims and their famiIies.
但是 But...
尽管是场悲剧 As tragic as it is...
这类的击杀人质事件并不罕见 ...this kind of hostage shooting was not an isoIated incident.
在特定情况下 这一类 ln certain circumstances, these punitive
惩罚行为 是符合 measures were in accordance...
国际法规定的 ...with internationaI Iaw...
前提是 没有妇女和儿童 ...namely when no women and children
在报复行动中受到伤害 were affected by the retaIiatory action.
没有妇女 也没有儿童 No women, no chiIdren.
是这样吗 莱宁先生 ls that correct, Mr Leinen?
极少数情况下 是的 ln rare cases, yes.
战争时期发生的事 Things happen in war...
我们无法想象 也不愿去想象 ...that we cannot and do not want to imagine here.
但是 But...
让-巴蒂斯塔·迈耶是否犯下了战争罪行 ...whether or not Jean-Baptiste Meyer committed a war crime...
需要由军事法庭来裁决 ...is a question for a miIitary tribunaI.
你为什么不去起诉他 Why didn't you fiIe a compIaint against him...
而是决定用自己的方式处理呢 ...instead of taking the law into your own hands?
那不才是正确的解决办法吗 WouIdn't that have been the way to proceed?
我认为是的 l think it wouId.
然而 However...
你和你的姐姐在1968年 lsn't it true that you and your sister fiIed
就已经起诉过迈耶了 不是吗 a criminal compIaint against Meyer in 1968?
我请求休庭 我需要和我的... Recess, pIease. l have to taIk to my...
驳回 No!
然后呢 And?
起诉结果怎么样呢 What happened with the complaint?
1969年夏天 ln the summer of 1969...
检察院中止了 ...the public prosecutor's office suspended the investigation
对让-巴蒂斯塔·迈耶的调查 of Jean-Baptiste Meyer.
本案的事实十分明显 ln this case, the truth is quite simpIe.
让-巴蒂斯塔·迈耶是无罪的 Jean-Baptiste Meyer was not guilty,
他并非一个战犯 there was no war crime.
那只是形势所迫 Those were terribIe times.
句号 Period.
你 科林尼先生 You, Mr. Collini,
谋杀了一个无辜的人 murdered an innocent man.
今天到此休庭 Today's session is over.
很抱歉你又听到这些 l'm sorry you had to hear all that again.
你为什么不告诉我 Why didn't you tell me?
莱宁 这就是场游戏 That's the game, Leinen.
别太当回事 Don't take it personaIly.
当上诉被驳回时 When the complaint was rejected...
我妹妹让我发誓 ...my sister made me swear that
让我不要再白费功夫 l'd never try anything again.
也不允许我再向他人道及此事 Never talk to anyone about it again.
她说 "直到我死的那天" "For as long as I'm alive", she said.
三十多年来 她都备受煎熬 She lived with the pain for more than thirty years.
直到两个月前 Until two months ago.
我希望你可以理解 l hope you understand me...
我懂的 l understand...
也许吧 Well, I think.
律师先生 我知道这对你来说不容易 l know this isn't easy for you, Counsellor.
我要对你道歉 l wanted to apoIogize.
我才应该道歉 l'm the one who should apoIogize.
要是你有个好律师 lf you had a better lawyer,
你坐个三年牢就能重获自由了 you'd have been a free man in three years.
你觉得我在意这些么 l'm not interested in that.
我已无家 无子 l don't have a family anymore, no kids.
所愿者 唯正义二字而已 All I want is justice.
他们怎能驳回对迈耶的控诉 How couId they dismiss the complaint against Meyer?
为什么法律会站在他那边 What law was on his side?
律师先生 什么法律 What law, Counsellor?
这便是最初的判决 This is the original verdict.
波恩 1968年5月24日 BONN, MAY 24 1968
德国联邦议会 VOTE IN THE GERMAN BUNDESTAG
就行政犯罪法案进行表决 ACT ON ADMINISTRATIVE OFFENCES
以下法案表决通过 THE FOLLOWlNG ACT lS VOTED lNTO LAW...
交通部长 乔治·勒伯 MINISTER FOR TRANSPORT GEORG LEBER
司法部长 赫尔内曼博士 MINISTER FOR JUSTICE DR. HElNEMANN
副总理 威利·勃兰特 DEPUTY CHANCELLOR WILLY BRANDT
总统 吕布克 PRESlDENT LÜBKE
你看 Look at this!
Richard 马廷格
早上好 律师先生 Good morning, Counsellor!
抱歉来迟 法官大人 l'm sorry, your honor.
我很高兴你能抽出时间 l'm so glad you were able to take time away
去寻找那位特别的证人 from uncovering surprise witnesses.
我们还担心你不能出庭了呢 We were afraid you wouIdn't make it to court!
法官大人 我确实有个特别的证人 l do have a surprise witness, your honor.
但这位我要传召的证人 But the person l wouId like to call
现在已经在法庭上了 is already here in the court room.
那会是谁呢 And who would that be?
Richard 马廷格教授 Professor Richard Mattinger.
但我不是请他做目击证人 But l don't want to call him as a witness,
而是作为法律史方面的专家证人 but as an expert on legal history.
当然 这并不是按规办事 Again, this is not the usual procedure.
您可以不接受的 You don't have to do this,
马廷格教授 Professor Mattinger.
我知道 l know.
但如果这样能帮助我们找到真相的话 But if it helps us to find the truth...
你想让我坐在证人席上吗 Do you want me to sit in the witness chair?
那也不一定 That's not necessary.
也许换一个角度 Maybe it's not bad to change my perspective.
坐在另一个位置看看也不错 See the room from the other side!
律师先生 可以开始了么 Shall we, CounselIor?
马廷格教授 Professor Mattinger,
你什么时候获得律师资格的 1968年吗 when did you pass the bar? 1968?
是的 Correct.
你一开始就是个好律师吗 Were you a good lawyer from the beginning?
律师 请自重 Please, Counsellor...
我们可以说你一直站在法律的一边 One couId say that you've always been on the side of Iaw,
站在秩序和正义的一边 对吗 order and justice, right?
我曾经因为在霍恩佐伦达姆超速被开罚单 Well, I was once ticketed for speeding on Hohenzollerndamm.
当时的时速超过了限速8英里 I was 8 mph over the limit.
如果非要说的话 这算是我唯一的违法行为 My only 'offence' in that direction, if you will.
我在去朋友婚礼的路上 有点迟到了 l was on my way to a friend's wedding and a little late.
我还是伴郎呢 I was the best man.
我们谈谈爱德华·德雷尔博士吧 Let's talk about Doctor Eduard Dreher.
这是一个问题吗 Was that a question?
还不是 Not yet.
先生 请别这样 Please, gentlemen.
马廷格教授 Professor Mattinger,
对让-巴蒂斯塔e 迈耶的控诉之所以中止 the complaint against Jean-Baptiste Meyer was not suspended...
并不是因为处决人质的合法性 对吗 ...because the execution of the hostages was legal, isn't that right?
检察官没有就此作出判断 The state prosecutor did not make a judgment on that.
正是 Exactly.
因为存在另外的原因 Because there was a different reason.
法布里齐奥·科林尼一直等到他母亲去世 Fabrizio Collini waited until his mother died...
然后和他妹妹安东尼拉一起 Then, together with his sister Antonella,
在1969年初对让-巴蒂斯塔e 迈耶 he filed a compIaint against Jean-Baptiste Meyer...
提起了诉讼 ...in early 1969.
他们两人做了法律范畴内能做的一切 The two did everything that the rule of law
结果得到这个答案 expected of them and then got this answer:
"此案将不予调查" "The matter will not be investigated."
而这是因为一个 And this was due to a law that
于1968年底开始生效的法案 came into force at the end of 1968.
在大屠杀发生的25年后 Almost 25 years after the massacre...
就在兄妹二人起诉迈耶的四个月前 ...but just 4 months before the siblings filed charges against Meyer.
《行政犯罪法施行法》 "Introductory Law to the Law on Administrative Offences."
相当复杂的一个词 不是吗 Quite a mouthful, isn't it.
所以你问的第一个正式问题就是 So your first serious question is about···
一个晦涩难懂的法律名词说出来有多容易吗 How easily the name of an obscure law trips off the tongue?
爱德华·德雷尔博士是这部典律的拟定者 Doctor Eduard Dreher was the author of the law.
在纳粹统治时期 During the Nazi regime
他是因斯布鲁克特别法庭的高级检察官 he was the Senior Public Prosecutor at the special court in Lnnsbruck
他滥用死刑 He argued for the death penalty if someone,
即使有人偷点吃的也难逃一死 for exampIe, stole food.
对吗 Right?
他确实很严厉 He was quite drastic, yes.
1951年 德雷尔受任于联邦司法部 对吗 ln 1951 , Dreher was appointed to the Federal Ministry of Justice?
又一个问题 没错 And another question, yes!
这位爱德华·德雷尔博士 The same Dr. Eduard Dreher
在那里成为了刑事司法部主任 对吗 became head of the criminaI justice department here?
甭管你在暗示什么 Whatever you're trying to suggest...
他并不是唯一得以为阿登纳工作的纳粹成员 ...he wasn't the only Nazi who made a career under Adenauer.
[联邦德国首任总理]
当1969年科林尼的申诉被拒绝时 When Collini's clalm was rejected in 1969...
这项决定的法律依据是什么 ...the legal basis for that decision was what,
那部法律中的区区五行条文吗 five lines from that law?
你能告诉我们这到底是什么意思吗 Would you mind telling us what exactIy it means?
解释得通俗一些 ln simple words?
简单地说 To put it very simply,
意思是谋杀罪的从犯 it meant that the crime of accessory to murder...
在某些情况下 ...in certain cases, was to be punished
应判过失杀人而非谋杀 as manslaughter, not murder.
什么意思 Which meant?
在某些情况下 That in certain cases,
谋杀的从犯应该被判过失杀人 而不是谋杀 accessory to murder was to be punished as manslaughter, not murder.
这在实践中是什么意思 What did this mean in practice?
我告诉过你两次了啊 l toId you! Twice!
我想让房间里的每个人都明白 l want everyone in the room to understand it.
意思是战争期间犯下的罪行 lt meant that such crimes committed during the war
会受到诉讼时效的限制 wouId fall under the statute of limitations...
犯罪者将不能再被起诉 ...and the perpetrators couId no longer be prosecuted.
因为过失杀人的诉讼时效是20年 Because the statute of limitations for manslaughter is 20 years.
与谋杀不同 ln contrast to murder.
意思是像汉斯·迈耶这样 lt meant that an officer like Hans Meyer
不分青红皂白地处决平民的军官 who indiscriminately executed civilians...
他的罪行被认定为过失杀人 ...his crime was cIassified as manslaughter.
他可以逍遥法外 And he wouId get away with it...
因为过失杀人的诉讼时效 because the statute of limitations
已经过去了 for manslaughter had already passed.
有多少人因为这条法律逃脱罪责 How many got away because of this law?
有多少坐在桌后下令消灭了 How many of the senior killers who sat behind the desks,
欧洲几乎所有犹太人的高级杀人犯 and ordered the extermination of almost all the Jews in Europe?
他们再也不用担心了 对吧 They had nothing to worry about anymore, right?
但这无法改变科林尼杀了一个无辜之人的事实 lt doesn't change a thing, Collini killed an innocent man.
是让我们谈谈罪责 Yes, let's taIk about guilt.
法官大人 我完全不清楚 Your honor, l've no idea what this...
马廷格先生 你在60年代中期 Mr Mattinger, did you serve as an intern
是否在波恩的司法部担任实习生 in the Ministry of Justice in Bonn in the mid-sixties?
是的 Yes.
怎样 So?
讨论这部法律时 ls it true that you took part in meetings
你是不是参加了 where this law was discussed?
会议出席记录 The minutes of the meeting.
就你记得 制定这部法律的过程是否有不愉快 Can you remember if it was unpleasant to work on this law...
是的 会议的过程很长 Yes, some sessions were quite long.
制定这样一部令如此罪行 To work on a law that meant that crimes like these
突然无法再被检控的法律 were suddenly beyond prosecution?
那是一段特殊的时期 lt was a different time back then.
那也许你今天会有不同的看法 Perhaps you see it differently today?
你认为迈耶有罪吗 Do you think Meyer was guilty?
是不是迈耶只是无法 Was it just that Meyer couId never
再因为他的罪行到法庭受审 be brought before a court for his crimes?
这就是法律 lt was the law.
这就是我们在这里讨论的 That's what we discuss here.
没别的了 年轻人 Nothing else, young man.
你在这里享受你的后来之福 You're standing here, protected by the grace of your late birth...
想把我钉在法律的耻辱柱上 而我只是碰巧 ...and want to nail me to a law that was drafted at the same time...
在这个时间受雇于这个部门而已 ...l happened to be employed by the same authority?
你能理解得了么 Have you got the slightest idea?
你能想象当时 Can you even begin to imagine
这个国家是如何运转的吗 how this country worked back then?
说到底 我们的工作是尊重法律 ln the end, our job was to respect the law.
我一向如此 l've aIways done that.
这部法律本身就是个丑闻 The law was a scandal.
如果你当时没有勇气站出来这样说 And if you didn't have the courage to stand up and say it then,
现在也还不迟 at least do it now.
准备 Ready!
瞄准 Aim!
这部法律 This law...
它是公正的吗 Was it just?
射击 Fire!
没有人质疑科林尼是在滥用私刑 No-one is disputing that Collini took the law into his own hands.
但是对迈耶不予起诉是公正的吗 But was it just that no charges were brought against Meyer?
我们难道不该对科林尼的所为区别对待吗 Don't we have to judge Collini's deed differently?
站好 Stand by!
你必须学会勇敢 You must learn to be brave.
汉斯·迈耶 你必须学会勇敢 You must learn to be brave, Hans Meyer.
瞄准 Aim!
射击 Fire!
这是公正的吗 马廷格先生 Was it just, Mr. Mattinger?
这是我们信奉的法律吗 ls this the rule of law we believe in?
不 No.
当然不是 Of course not.
根据我们目前对国际法的理解 According to our current understanding of international law...
让-巴蒂斯塔·迈耶应被指控定罪 ..Jean-Baptiste Meyer should have been charged and convicted.
战争罪 对吗 For a war crime, is that correct?
是的 That's right, yes.
法官大人 我没有其他问题了 l've no further questions, your honor.
今天到此休庭 The court is in recess for today.
明天我们将听取结案辩论 Tomorrow we'll hear closing arguments,
之后进行宣判 and then we'll pass sentence.
到此结束 lt's over.
死者不愿复仇 The dead don't want revenge.
谢谢你 律师先生 Thank you, Counsellor.
我也是一样的吗 Am I all that, too?
你就是你 You are who you are.
我们在庭外现场报道 We're reporting live from outside the court,
今天是许多人期待已久的一天 and today is the long-awaited day.
我们期待着听到科林尼案的判决 We're expecting to hear the verdict in the Collini case
这已牵动了整个国家的心 that has gripped the nation.
在昨天的爆料之后 After yesterday's explosive revelations,
万众期待的问题是 the question on everyone's lips is:
法官将如何判决 How will the judges rule?
这是一个真正的法律难题 lt's a true legal dilemma.
请继续关注最新进展 Stay tuned for more breaking news.
被告法布里齐奥 Maria 科林尼 The defendant, Fabrizio Maria Collini,
昨晚在他的牢房里自杀了 took his own life in his cell last night.
妈的 Shit!
法医在凌晨2点40分宣布其死亡 The coroner pronounced him dead at 2:40 a.m.
因此 我宣布 l therefore have the following decision to announce:
对被告的诉讼就此中止 The proceedings against the accused are closed.
其费用将由国家承担 The costs will be borne by the state.
女士们先生们 庭审已经结束了 Ladies and gentlemen, this hearing is closed.
卡斯帕 LElNEN 律师 CASPAR LElNEN ATTORNEY
你的信 Your mail...
你父亲打过电话 你应该给他回个电 Your father called, you should call him back.
还有 你的航班马上就要起飞了 And your flight is leaving soon.
咱们怎么约定工作时间着装的来着 Listen, what did we say about appropriate clothing at work?
这是我们的父亲 FABRIZlO 科林尼 THIS WAS OUR FATHER FABRIZlO COLLINI
成千上万的平民 Hundreds of thousands of civilians
在第二次世界大战期间 were indiscriminately murdered by the SS...
在党卫军和德国军队的"报复"行动中 ...and the German army
被无差别地屠杀 in the Second WorId War during "retaliatory" measures.
1968年 德国联邦议会通过了所谓的《德雷尔法案》 ln 1968 the so-called "Dreher Law" was passed by the German Bundestag.
这部法律让无数战犯逃脱了法律制裁 This law allowed countless war criminals to escape justice.