The president is calling his former and long time attorney 总统将其前任长期律师
and fixer Michael Cohen a rat. 及解决问题能手迈克尔·科恩称为“鼠辈”。
And tweeted that Cone is a rat, 他发推说科恩是“鼠辈”，
that’s typically a term associated with mobs. 这一词汇是典型的黑帮用语。
Rat is a term that’s often applied in Mafia cases. “鼠辈”一词经常用于黑手党案件中。
Donald Trump sounds like a crime boss. 糖春波的语气就像个黑帮老大。
How are you doing,President Trump? 最近可好，春波总统？
I would deeply appreciate it if you would stop using mob terms like "rat." 如果您能停止使用黑帮词汇，比如说“鼠辈”，我会不胜感激。
It just makes wise guys like me look bad. 你的使用会让我这种聪明人看起来很糟糕。
He’s right. 他说得有道理。
It diminishes what they do. 这会贬低他们的所作所为。
Thank you, Ted. 谢谢你，泰德。
Don’t mention it. 不用谢。
Now, torturing a guy’s head in a vice because he’s short on the vig is one thing 你看，因为一个男的付不起贷款利息而拷打他的头部是一回事，
but colluding with a foreign enemy 但是和外敌勾结
or cheating on your third wife while she’s pregnant, 或在你第三任太太怀孕时出轨
that's just wrong！ 就太不地到了！
I agree with that！ 我同意！
Thanks again, Ted. 再次感谢，泰德。
Besides, you don’t see me using your words like 另外，我不是也没用你的词汇吗？像是
"no collusion" or "witch hunt" or "smocking gun," “无勾结”、“政治迫害”或是“证据雀坐”（这里讽刺春波总是拼写错误，嘻嘻）
So don’t use mine. 所以你也别用我的。
Stay in your lane. 待在你自己的车道上。
Now, if you’ll excuse me, I gotta get back to work. 抱歉，现在我要继续工作了。
How much longer is this going to take? 这要用多长时间？
I have dinner plans. 我还有晚餐安排呢。
It’s "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert”! 您正在收看的是“史蒂芬·科拜尔晚间秀”！
Tonight, “Crimes Aren’t Crimes” 今夜的主题是“犯罪不是犯罪”，
Stephen welcomes Sandra Bullock and Barry Jenkins, 嘉宾是桑德拉·布洛克和巴里·詹金斯，
featuring Jon Batiste and "Stay Human." 主演是约翰·巴提斯特和他的“坚守人性”乐队。
And now live on tape from the Ed Sullivan theater in New York city. 现在是来自纽约市艾德·沙利文剧院的实况录放。
It’s Stephen Colbert! 欢迎主持人史蒂芬·科拜尔！
Thanks, everybody! 谢谢大家！
Welcome to "The Late Show." 欢迎来看“晚间秀”。
Ladies and gentlemen, I’m your host Stephen Colbert. 女士们先生们，我是主持人史蒂芬·科拜尔。
We’re learning...We’re learning more about the 我们在了解。。。我们在了解更多关于
Russia investigation. 俄罗斯调查的事情。
The walls are clearly closing in on Trump. 这些墙很显然向春波包抄过来了。
And after all those cheeseburgers, 在他吃了那么多芝士汉堡后，
the walls don’t have very far to go. 大墙也移动不了多远了。
( laughter ) "the washington post" got their
hands on a leaked copy of a report commissioned by the
senate intelligence committee, and theres some damning stuff
in there.
for instance, to help trump in the election, the committee
found that russia used every major social media platform.
yes, vladimir putin even created his own bitmoji.
( laughter ) "lets collude, american dude!"
at this point, trump faces 17 investigations, "a legal assault
unlike anything previously seen by any president."
quite a distinction for trump.
(as trump) "no other president has had more big, beautiful
investigations.
and theyre naturals, okay?
im telling you, if i had a dollar for everything im being
investigated for, youd never know because i wont show my tax
returns."
( cheers and applause ) big naturals.
big -- what trump needs is a good
lawyer.
or rudy giuliani, seen here realizing what hes become.
( laughter ) giuliani went on the sunday
shows and insisted that no one is guilty of any crimes during
the campaign, because those crimes werent crimes.
>> collusion is not a crime, it doesnt exist.
paying $130,000 to stormy whatever and paying $130,000 to
the other one is not a crime.
if roger stone gave anybody a heads-up about wikileaks leaks,
thats not a crime.
>> stephen: slow down, i cant write these crimes down that
fast.
( laughter ) okay.
just transcribe that, please.
okay.
and what does he mean, "collusion is not a crime"?
okay, i understand the actual crime is called "conspiracy to
defraud the united states."
thats like saying, "my client is accused of murdering his
neighbor, but he merely stabbed him in the aorta with a fondue
fork.
( laughter ) fondue forking is not a crime."
( laughter ) giuliani then went after cohens
credibility.
>> hes changed his story four or five times.
>> so has the president.
>> the presidents not under oath.
( audience reacts ) >> stephen: good point.
thats a really good point, jon.
>> jon: what?
>> stephen: if only presidents had some sort of ceremony where
a judge had to swear them in before they took office.
( laughter ) mueller got trumps written
answers to his questions last month, and reportedly now
he wants to interview the president, but rudy says thats
not going to happen.
>> is the special counsel-- does he want to interview the
president?
>> yeah, good luck.
over my dead body.
>> stephen: well, great, well schedule the interview for
tomorrow!
( laughter ) ( applause )
oh, wait, thats your alive body.
oh...
is all of it alive?
( laughter ) trump is also fighting back.
against everything.
since friday, hes tweeted about china, obamacare, the wonderful
wife of rod blagojevich, peter s. and the lovely lisa page,
child separation, smugglers use the kids, witch hunt, witch
hunt, witch hunt, hoax, and the russian witch hunt hoax.
( laughter ) ( piano riff )
( cheers and applause ) it sounds like the collusion
version of "duck, duck, goose."
(as trump) "witch hunt, witch hunt, the
russian witch hunt hoax!
don jr., youre it."
( laughter ) ( cheers and applause )
>> stephen: one thing that really got
trumps goat was the plea deal mueller struck with trumps
former lawyer, and man whose doctor just delivered the bad
news that hes going to live through this, michael cohen.
trump tweeted "remember, michael cohen only became a rat after
the f.b.i. did something which was absolutely unthinkable and
unheard of until the witch hunt was illegally started.
they broke into an attorneys office!"
first, they didnt break into his office.
they had a warrant.
and they knocked.
( laughter ) they are allowed to come in.
(as trump) "that valet just stole my car--
after i gave him my keys."
( laughter ) get him!
( laughter ) ( cheers and applause )
( piano riff ) i think i have run more tonight
pretending to be trump than trump has run in his liar life.
( laughter ) and "rat?"
innocent people always describe their accusers as "rats."
( laughter ) like jesus said, to judas in the
garden of gethsemane, "way to rat me out, judy.
youre going to sleep with the loaves and the fishes, see?"
( laughter ) ( applause )
trump also got mad at the tv people.
"a real scandal is the one-sided coverage, hour by
hour, of networks like nbc and democrat spin machines like
saturday night live. it is all nothing less than
unfair news coverage and dem commercials.
should be tested in courts, cant be legal?
only defame and belittle!
collusion?" ( laughter )
not sure how to read any of that.
mr. president, you might not like "snl," but thats not a
crime.
what are his yelp reviews like?
(as trump) "the service was slow and the
minestrone was too salty.
murder?" ( laughter )
( cheers and applause ) ( piano riff )
ill say this: he thinks "snl" sketches "should be tested in
courts."
( laughter ) are they going to put their
jokes on trial, or does he think "saturday night live" is news?
(as trump) "id like to introduce my new
nominee for attorney general, david s. pumpkins.
david?" >> any questions?
( laughter ) >> stephen: speaking of new
hires, trumps just appointed a new chief of staff.
director of the office of management and budget and bad
guy from "raiders" before he looks in the ark, mick mulvaney.
( applause ) thats uncanny!
thats extraordinary!
mulvaney was also the head of the "consumer financial
protection bureau" but he required employees to call it
"the bureau of consumer financial protection" and
rearranged the letters in the agencys front office.
well, as long as were shuffling letters around because we feel
like it, i want to welcome trumps new chief of staff "my,
an evil muck."
( cheers and applause ) >> jon: scramble it!
scrambled eggs.
>> stephen: and mulvaney campaigned hard for his new
position.
according to one insider, "he would have given up a very
valuable appendage to get that job."
okay, so we know hes "chief," were not sure about "staff."
( laughter ) okay.
so he needs for trump to trust him if hes going to be chief of
staff because all relationships are about trust.
maybe he should have thought of that before he said this in
2016: >> do i like donald trump?
no!
is he a role model for my sons?
absolutely not!
i think he is a terrible human being.
>> stephen: (as mulvaney) "will i abandon all my values to
work for him?
you bet!" ( cheering )
and were saying goodbye to another member of trumps
cabinet, secretary of the interior and dudley do-wrong
ryan zinke.
zinke resigned on saturday amid at least 15 ethics
investigations.
in fact, he had so many scandals that white house officials told
him he had until the end of the year to leave or be fired.
thats impressive.
getting fired for ethics violations in the trump
administration is like being fired from the rockettes for
kicking.
( laughter ) they do it in unison.
all the ethics violations are in unison.
( cheers and applause ) in fact, zinke made his
resignation official one day before democrats get oversight
powers.
you realize that you can still be investigated after you quit a
job, right?
"sure i set fire to the library, but you cant arrest me, because
im quitting as librarian!
and you cant prove thats illegal because the law books
are all on fire ."
this was a big fall from grace for zinke, who many dont
realize was the first montanan to have served in a
presidential cabinet.
which trump thinks is a diversity hire.
( laughter ) (as trump)
"the secretary come from-- and i hope im pronouncing this
correctly-- montanya. hola, senor zinkay.
donda esta the clean coal?" ( laughter )
zinke opted to resign on one condition: he be allowed to stay
on until his office christmas party, which he told white house
staffers he wanted to have before his dismissal.
its tradition to hobnob at big party whenever youre resigning
in disgrace.
who can forget nixons farewell fiesta?
( laughter ) weve got a great show for you
tonight.
( cheers and applause ) sandra bullock is here.
but when we return, stephen miller addresses problems at the
border of his hair.
( cheers and applause ) ( band playing )
>> stephen: jon batiste and "stay human," everybody!
( cheers and applause ) >> stephen: im excited.
>> jon: hey!
hey!
( cheers and applause ) >> stephen: john, im really
excited tonight.
weve got some amazing guests this evening in fact just a
moment, sandra bullock will be sitting right there.
( cheers and applause ) >> jon: superstar!
>> stephen: never had a chance to talk to her before.
i cant believe it, all this time.
sitting right there.
i never talked to her before, never had a conversation in
front to have the people before.
its never official until its in front of the people.
( cheers and applause ) and also barry jenkins, director
of moonlight, and his new movie ii"if beale street could talk."
we havent heard a lot lately from white house senior advisor
and man who some day neighbors will describe as "a quiet guy,
kept to himself," stephen miller.
all the money from the books, its a seven-digit if you
remember, jon.
were now at one and a quarter million dollars for those
charities.
>> jon: thats what were taking about!
lets get it!
( cheers and applause ) >> stephen: thank you to
everyone who bought one of these and thank you to simon &
scheuster for making this happen.
its been wonderful.
we havent heard a lot lately from white house senior advisor
and man who some day neighbors will describe as "a quiet guy,
kept to himself," stephen miller.
( laughter ) but this weekend, miller emerged
from his lair for an interview on "face the nation."
and he started out by enforcing the administrations strict
rules on holiday greetings.
>> good to have you here in studio, this--
>> its great to be here.
thank you.
merry christmas.
>> and merry christmas to you.
>> stephen: millers not exactly a people person, but hes
trying to make a connection.
"merry christmas.
what a warm holiday feeling we mutually have.
pa-rum-pum-pum-pum."
( laughter ) now, trump has been threatening
to shut down the government over the border wall.
and miller defended it, and went off on some judges.
>> were going to do whatever is necessary to build the border
wall, to stop this ongoing crisis of illegal immigration--
>> and that means a shutdown?
>> this is a-- this is a very-- if it comes to it, absolutely.
one of the great tragedies that is going on in our country today
is the loopholes in our immigration laws and the
deficiencies in our immigration laws.
and left wing, activist judicial rulings that incentivize the
most vulnerable populations to come to our country.
>> stephen: its true.
theres one left wing activist who spends all day incentivizing
the vulnerable, standing in new york harbor!
( laughter ) i dont know if shes a judge,
but shes got a robe and a flaming gavel!
( cheers and applause ) >> jon: somebody ought to
check that out.
( applause ) >> stephen: but who am i
kidding?
you cant really hear what hes saying over the sound of you
looking at his sprayed on hair.
( laughter ) he looks like eddie munster and
the count from "sesame street" had a baby, and the baby also
went bald.
( laughter ) now as a reminder, this is how
stephen miller normally looks ( audience reacts )
there hasnt been a right wing propagandist with fake hair that
obvious since joseph goebbels tried that weave.
( laughter ) i gotta salute the hair and
make-up team at "face the nation."
before he went on the air, you know he said to them, "how do i
look?" "...good!"
( laughter ) you look -- you look good.
( laughter ) but this government shutdown is
a serious issue, and stephen miller could be a decisive
voice.
here to tell us more about the showdown over border policy is
white house senior advisor, stephen miller.
thank you for being here, mr. miller.
( cheers and applause ) >> thank you, thank you,
stephen.
merry christmas.
>> stephen: thank you.
now -- >> merry christmas.
>> stephen: sure.
merry christmas.
you have to say it.
stephen, you say it, merry christmas.
>> stephen: merry christmas.
good, good, good.
>> stephen: now, mr. miller, are you
still willing to shut down the entire government in order to
pay for the border wall?
>> first of all, stephen, merry christmas.
and yes, absolutely.
the government is like the raccoon i trapped beneath my
parents porch.
it made a mistake, and it must be taught the lessons.
>> stephen: this is even more extreme than what youve
advocated in the past.
and we all remember, you were the architect of the original
family separation policy.
( laughter ) >> stephen, it is reckless to
call me the architect.
we had no architect.
that is why the children are in tents.
merry christmas.
( cheers and applause ) >> stephen: did your hairline
just move forward?
>> stephen, the only thing moving forward is the pack of
lawless immigrants who will stop at nothing to get into this
country, but also, will be discouraged by a single wall.
>> stephen: but mr. miller, hasnt america always been a
nation of immigrants?
>> wrong.
( laughter ) no, that is absolutely wrong,
stephen.
also -- merry christmas -- america has always been known
for strong borders, just as i, stephen miller, have always been
known for strong, luscious sideburns.
>> stephen: that is not what we know you for.
also, did you just spray on sideburns?
>> i didnt.
no.
but if i did, it would just be to build a wall of hair to
protect my traditional american face against dangerous child
immigrants.
merry christmas.
( laughter ) >> stephen: okay, lets get back
to the government shutdown.
millions of workers will be without paychecks.
are you willing to sacrifice them to make a political point?
( laughter ) >> stephen, please... we will do
whatever it takes to secure the border and enforce the agenda
put forth by president jabba.
>> stephen: im sorry, did you say president jabba?
>> no, i said "trump."
merry christmas.
>> stephen: but how is the president going to get his
border wall built with the democrats controlling the house
if he couldnt do it when the republicans did?
>> the simple fact is, anyone who opposes this president is a
jive turkey who lacks the funkiness to protect our
borders.
for we are one nation, under a groove, gettin down just for
the funk of it.
do you have the capacity to dig it, stephen?
>> stephen: i do not, but well have to leave it there.
merry christmas.
>> oh, is it christmas?
i didnt even realize that.
merry christmas.
>> stephen: stephen miller everybody!
well be right back with sandra bullock.
( cheers and applause ) ( band playing )
>> stephen: hey, everybody!
welcome back to the show!
( cheers and applause ) oh, ladies and gentlemen, im so
excited for this next act of the show right now.
i have waited for this for a long time.
my first guest is an oscar-winning actress you know
from "speed," "the blind side" and "oceans eight."
her latest movie is "bird box."
( phone ringing ) >> this isnt me.
my phone is in the back seat.
the foreman is probably wondering where i am.
>> oh, my god oh, my god -- what are you looking at?
what are you seeing?
talk to me!
tell me what you saw!
( tires screeching ) jess, what is wrong with you?
no, no, no!
stop it!
what are you doing?
stop it!
stop it, jess!
please stop it!
( crashing sounds ) >> stephen: please welcome
sandra bullock!
( cheers and applause ) ( band playing )
>> stephen: hi.
hi.
how are you?
( cheers and applause ) no, they stand, you sit.
>> i thought you stand, i stand.
>> stephen: no they stand, you sit.
>> i dont know how things work.
this is my first time.
>> stephen: this is the first time you and sri had a chance to
talk on camera.
ive never had a chance to interview you before but weve
met before.
>> yeah, we have kind of.
>> stephen: do you remember the first time we met.
>> yes you accosted myself and sarah paulson in a restaurant.
( laughter ) >> stephen: some say accost,
others say hello!
( laughter ) i saw you in a restaurant in
los angeles.
im not often in town.
when i see you and other big stars i get a little --
>> we were way back in the restaurant.
you couldnt see us.
>> stephen: you were a beacon of talent and i had to say hi.
i dont get to see stars that often.
>> you were a little sweaty.
>> stephen: i was a little star struck to see stars in the
wild like that!
you dont want to make sudden moves.
>> yeah.
>> stephen: thats not the first time we met.
>> oh, god.
>> stephen: the first time we met was at the "daily show."
i went back to say hi because office fan.
>> i dont remember you.
>> stephen: you dont.
why would you remember me.
some shmuck working for jon stewart at the time.
>> he had really good treats.
>> stephen: what do you think of our treats?
>> amazing.
i had the cake ball and more chocolate thing.
this was more chocolate stuck in my teeth.
i found a fork and dug it out and made it here on time.
>> stephen: thats why youre relatable.
( laughter ) welcome back to new york.
so glad to have you here.
>> in my -- i was going to say youth.
>> stephen: now youre in your prime.
>> yes.
i lived here after college.
my father taught opera.
>> stephen: do you sing?
not at all.
>> stephen: you dont sing at all?
>> no, p pi mother was an opera sing snore and your father
taught opera?
>> yes.
>> stephen: and it didnt rub off?
>> it skipped a generation.
>> stephen: they must have tried.
>> they tried a lot of things that werent successful.
>> stephen: oh.
thats why i became an actress.
thats what one does.
>> stephen: when you dont know how to do anything else,
become an actress.
>> thats what we do, yes.
>> stephen: were you a classic actor in new york, being a
waiter?
>> i did.
>> stephen: were you good?
i was.
i feel everyone should wait tables for a year before they go
out into the workforce.
>> stephen: some kind of service job.
>> yes.
>> stephen: so you know what its like to be treated like
garbage.
>> yes.
i was on 19th and park.
do you remember that?
>> stephen: i do not.
okay, while i was there, there was another waiter by the
name of -- i dont know if you know who lawrence is but we do a
lot of on the camera stuff and we pretended we were married and
he spoke german, so we would get better tips.
awkward silence.
( laughter ) >> stephen: i know a few words
of germans.
sclitzel.
( speaking german ) ( laughter )
( speaking german ) >> stephen: the lamp belongs
on the table.
( laughter ) ( speaking german )
>> stephen: its like vodner and gerta talking now.
( laughter ) we have to take a break.
dont go away.
well be right back with more sandra bullock, everybody.
>> stephen: hey, were back here with sandra bullock,
everybody!
sandra, the few film "bird box," which i watched saturday night
in installments because i frighten easily, its a
fascinating film, brilliant performances, yours including,
of course.
they think so, too.
( cheers and applause ) its so nerve racking you dont
know whats going to happen.
i literally had to watch it in chunks and have my wife hold me
for a while and watch some more.
>> how sweet that she does that.
>> stephen: we make it work.
good.
>> stephen: thats in the vows.
>> i hear thats how it works.
but it was hopeful at the end, right?
>> stephen: yeah.
im not going to say why.
>> no, i think its important to say its incredibly hopeful.
its a very scary ride but the reason i loved it is how youre
supposed to love each other a as family.
>> stephen: and your characters literal journey to
finding that.
>> yeah.
>> stephen: and just giving an idea, youre blindfolded for a
lot of this movie.
>> mm-hmm.
>> stephen: and i dont think im giving anything away to show
you in a river with a blindfold on and two children.
>> thats, like, motherhood.
( cheers and applause ) >> stephen: yeah, a little
bit.
its a little scary.
>> stephen: but also youre looking for their socks because
schools about to start.
>> yeah, youre looking for ive i think this.
>> stephen: how much of the movie did you spend as an
actress on set blindfolded?
>> half of it, which is amazing.
we have someone who came in and gave us within three months a
way to navigate our senses that we possess that, once you dont
have sight, you realize you can hear solid objects, you can
sense that theres a wall and sense at the thats about, you
know, 20, 22 feet.
its amazing.
i ran into the camera a lot, but it made it authentic.
( laughter ) >> stephen: can we tell the
people why youre blindfolded.
is that allowed?
>> yeah, of course.
theres something happening in the world that, apparently, if
you see it, you experience your worst fears and you kill
yourself.
>> stephen: thats what sarah paulson is experiencing in the
clip you just played.
>> yes.
i love sarah paulson.
its her birthday today.
>> stephen: happy birthday ( cheers and applause )
( piano riff ) >> stephen: sarah, if you
happen to be in stone, let us know.
for your birthday dinner, well come by and neil by your table
as i did in los angeles.
>> is that what urpg doing?
is that what that was?
you were kneeling.
>> stephen: didnt i neil by your table?
>> i dont think so.
>> stephen: maybe i mistook you two for nuns and was waiting
for a blessing.
( laughter ) thank you.
thank you, sister.
( laughter ) ( applause )
( piano riff ) sister san di.
did you get seriously injured?
because youre, like, running through forests.
>> yeah.
>> stephen: youre going down steps.
you had to have eaten it.
>> i ate it several times.
the final eating was not my fawvment there was a ravine i
practiced blindfolded and they sat three cameras at the top and
i practiced navigating it -- >> stephen: let me stop you.
so theres a ravine, three cameras at a top and youre
blindfolded and theyre having you walk up a ravine.
>> no, i fell down and was crawling back up.
>> stephen: okay.
then i took off in a run, and there was a flash, and i
realized it was my face meeting with some hard object.
there was a little blood and a few tears, and i was okay.
>> stephen: wow.
( laughter ) now, you have two children.
>> i do.
>> stephen: you can sort of see their heads.
>> i thought you meant in real life.
i was going, i do.
>> stephen: well get them in here.
>> awkward.
>> stephen: you have two children.
can i tell them their names?
>> yes.
in the film, they are boy and girl.
>> stephen: because youve not found your way to love yet.
>> mm-hmm.
its kind of like at home.
boy!
>> stephen: these children are enormously obedient in this
movie.
you tell them to do exactly what you say and they will survive.
>> i tell them if they dont do it, they will die.
these kids.
( laughter ) >> stephen: are your children
as obedient or not?
>> no.
im joking.
they are incredible.
my kids are mischievous enough, they fight the perfect amount.
they are the most beautiful funny, inspiring little people.
im lucky.
( cheers and applause ) >> stephen: do you think if
push comes to shove you could wear a blindfold and get them
down river to safety?
>> no, i dont.
>> stephen: okay.
well, okay.
>> but in my house, i would be amazing.
>> stephen: theres been so much written about you over the
years because you are a big star, youre an actual serious
movie star.
this is why i havent had a chance to talk to you yet
because youre such a big deal.
( cheers and applause ) we with found some facts about
you on the internet.
>> oh, because we know thats where the facts live.
>> stephen: right.
( cheering ) well, thats what we thought.
>> okay.
>> stephen: as we were preparing this interview, we
found so many things out and i didnt know if theyer are true.
>> bring it.
>> stephen: so you as a fact check, lets set the record
straight.
in our new segment "bullock or bollock."
the internet claims you are allergic to horses.
>> fact.
>> stephen: a ding for fact?
we did not think this out very well.
).
( ding ) >> nice.
oh, thank you.
>> stephen: robert duvall taught you how to salsa dance.
>> no.
fact.
no.
well, kind of.
( laughter ) >> stephen: what do you mean
he kind of taught you?
>> he wanted to teach me how to tango, but then someone else
taught me how to salsa, which i liked more than tango at the
time.
so i was inspired to salsa dance by robert duvall.
>> stephen: what was the opportunity he had to try to
tempt you with a tango?
in other words, where was there tango music and robert duvall?
>> robert duvall is a brilliant tango dancer.
>> stephen: i did not know this.
>> fact.
( laughter ) thank you.
>> stephen: we know you grew up in a family of opera singers.
>> fact.
>> stephen: grandfather was a rocket scientist.
>> so were told.
( laughter ) >> stephen: "bird box" is
available on netflix and in select theaters on friday.
sandra bullock, everybody!
well be right back with barry jenkins!
( cheers and applause ) ( band playing )
>> stephen: hey, everybody!
welcome back to "the late show"!
folks, my next guest tonight is if academy award-winning
filmmaker who wrote and directed mo"moonlight."
his new film is "if beale street could talk."
>> my daddy is working and youre working at the department
store and your daddy is working at the waterfront.
you want me to die in here?
you know whats happening to me?
to me in here?
>> stephen: please welcome barry jenkins.
( cheers and applause ) ( band playing )
( cheers and applause ) >> thank you.
thank you.
>> stephen: well, as i said backstage just a moment ago, "if
beale street could talk" is an extraordinarily beautiful film.
>> thank you.
>> stephen: its beautiful to look at.
the performances are incredibly moving, are real, human
interaction.
it has a -- its both heartbreaking and hopeful at the
same time.
congratulations on two golden globe nominations for best
picture and best screenplay.
>> thank you.
thank you.
( cheers and applause ) >> stephen: after winning the
oscar for "moonlight" two years ago --
( cheers and applause ) >> thank you.
>> stephen: -- why was this novel by james baldwin from 1974
the thing you wanted to adapt?
why was that the thing you said, i will take what i have earned
here with my oscar and make this movie?
>> yeah, ive always been a fan of james baldwins work ever
since i was young, i was really obsessed with his writing.
i wrote this screenplay for "i wish we could talk" same time as
"moonlight."
i didnt have the rights to the novel --
>> stephen: one summer you wrote both?
>> six weeks.
i was in brussels and berlin.
but i had no life.
( laughter ) i had no friends, no email.
>> stephen: where were you?
i want to picture you writing these movies.
>> it was very james baldwin.
i had a cafe in brussels, belgium, called lord by ron, i
would sit in the window of the cafe and write.
it was all cafes, man.
>> stephen: somebody should make a movie about that.
>> a very boring movie.
( laughter ) >> stephen: what is it about
this story that was so important to you?
>> james baldwin had many different voices he wrote in.
one was obsessed with sensuality and romanticism and
relationships and the other with systemic injustice.
its a love story but its about very real things in america.
>> stephen: its been two years, as i said, since you won
the oscar, the most famous oscar mixup of all time, la-la land
and "moonlight ."
have you seen warren beatty since that moment?
>> yes and know.
you know sometimes when something happens and you didnt
think of that thing now you see it everywhere?
i see warren beatty everywhere.
>> stephen: haunted.
>> stephen:?
no, because hes one of my best memories of that night.
but i will literally be in france and there will be a
portrait of warren beatty.
whenever that happens -- >> stephen: like this.
is this -- did you tweet this?
>> i dont think i tweeted it, but i did take that photo.
( laughter ) >> stephen: did you send it to
him?
>> i did not send it to him.
( applause ) but whenever i see his portrait,
yeah, i take a selfie with him.
>> stephen: thats nice.
you guys look good together.
now, the film is getting a lot of oscar buzz.
your ceremony is in flux.
-week-old you like to see whos it?
>> oh, you know, i think oprah would be an amazing host for the
oscars.
>> stephen: oprah will be fantastic.
>> it will be like you get a car, you get a car!
it will be, like, you get an oscar, you get an oscar.
it will be amazing.
>> stephen: have you called her to suggest that?
>> i have not.
ill let you handle that, all right.
>> stephen: >> stephen: shes watching.
absolutely.
oprah, if youre not going to run for president, at least do
this.
you owe us something.
( cheers and applause ) he said.
so well, thank you so much for being here.
it was lovely to have you.
congratulations on "if beale street could talk."
such a beautiful movie.
everyone should go see it.
its in theaters now and nationwide on christmas.
barry jenkins everybody
well be right back
( cheers and applause ) ( band playing )
>> stephen: thats it for "the late show," everybody.
tune in tomorrow when my guests will be emily blunt, congressman
adam schiff, and musical guest, saint paul and the broken bones.
now stick around for james corden.
good night!
(laughs
) >> meanwhile, this looks like
elvis.
>> stephen: that looks like a very specific sect of judaism.
i dont know which one it is.
>> its all about sideburns!
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