>> Osgood: Good morning, I'm Charles osgood and this is "Sunday morning."
First Sunday morning of the new
season.
The season that gives proof to
the saying that everything old
the season that gives proof to the saying that everything old is new again.
The saying that everything old is new again. Three popular music legends,
Bruce, Paul and wrongo are in
three popular music legends, Bruce, Paul and wrongo are in the spotlight yet again.
And this morning they will be
looking back and ahead with our
and this morning they will be looking back and ahead with our Anthony Mason.
Looking back and ahead with our Anthony Mason. >> On his latest tour Bruce
Springsteen was playing four
>> on his latest tour Bruce Springsteen was playing four hours a night.
>> How do you keep doing that?
Hours a night. >> How do you keep doing that? >> Don't try this at home kids.
>> But it was the Beatles who
>> don't try this at home kids. >> But it was the Beatles who invented arena rock.
The noise was constant.
Invented arena rock. The noise was constant. >> Yeah, it was just like, she
the noise was constant. >> Yeah, it was just like, she loves --
>> yeah, it was just like, she loves -- >> later on "Sunday morning," we
go back to abbey road with Paul
and Ringo and to the streets of
Jersey with Bruce.
And Ringo and to the streets of Jersey with Bruce. >> Osgood: Good luck, we say,
when someone begins a brand new
>> osgood: Good luck, we say, when someone begins a brand new venture.
When someone begins a brand new venture. But can we they our words and
deeds actually improve our luck?
This year's emmy awards just
hours away that's a question for
this year's emmy awards just hours away that's a question for our Susan Spencer.
Hours away that's a question for our Susan Spencer. >> Look around you.
Our Susan Spencer. >> Look around you. Roughly seven out of ten
>> look around you. Roughly seven out of ten Americans say they had mostly
roughly seven out of ten Americans say they had mostly good luck in their lives.
So, what's their secret?
Good luck in their lives. So, what's their secret? >> There are things that you can
so, what's their secret? >> There are things that you can do to increase your luck and
>> there are things that you can do to increase your luck and increase your chances.
Do to increase your luck and increase your chances. >> That implies that we have
control over luck.
>> I think we do, absolutely.
Control over luck. >> I think we do, absolutely. >> This is good news.
>> Good luck.
Later on "Sunday morning."
>> Osgood: It's the new season
later on "Sunday morning." >> Osgood: It's the new season in just about every creative
>> osgood: It's the new season in just about every creative field.
In just about every creative field. David edelstein will have our
fall movie preview.
Our Ben Tracy has been surveying
the world of art.
>> Leaves aren't the only
things changing this season.
From coast to coast, museums
around the country are preparing
from coast to coast, museums around the country are preparing their fall season, making way
for new exhibits and hopefully
new visitors.
For new exhibits and hopefully new visitors. >> We'll take a bite out of the
some of the best art in the
>> we'll take a bite out of the some of the best art in the country ahead on "Sunday
morning."
Country ahead on "Sunday morning." >> Osgood: Conor knighton is
on the trail to another one of
>> osgood: Conor knighton is on the trail to another one of our great national parks this
morning.
Our great national parks this morning. This time, he has some very
special travel can companions.
>> This is cupcake.
Special travel can companions. >> This is cupcake. It hurts, it hurts so much.
>> These adorable little guys
it hurts, it hurts so much. >> These adorable little guys and girls, born in July at the
>> these adorable little guys and girls, born in July at the denali national park.
And girls, born in July at the denali national park. >> The happiest government
employees you'll ever meet.
It's really true.
Employees you'll ever meet. It's really true. >> Ahead on "Sunday morning,"
it's really true. >> Ahead on "Sunday morning," take a deep breath and say --
>> ahead on "Sunday morning," take a deep breath and say -- ahhhh.
Take a deep breath and say -- ahhhh. >> Osgood: Lee cowan visits
the big easy with Scott bakula
>> osgood: Lee cowan visits the big easy with Scott bakula of "NCIS: New Orleans."
The big easy with Scott bakula of "NCIS: New Orleans." Mo rocco talks with "Sunday
morning" make up artist rise see
mo rocco talks with "Sunday morning" make up artist rise see Johnson about her life long
brush with fame.
Steve hartman mourns the passing
of a 600-year-old tree.
First, the headlines, the 18th
of September.
2016.
Of September. 2016. United States is apologizing for
any loss of life after a
coalition airstrike apparently
struck government troops in
Syria.
Struck government troops in Syria. Russia says more than 60 people
were killed.
Elizabeth Palmer is in the city
of aleppo.
>> Charlie, these airstrikes
have put extra strain on what
we're calling a cease fire
although both sides accuse the
others of multiple violations.
Although both sides accuse the others of multiple violations. Here in aleppo hearing
intermittent sounds of gunfire
here in aleppo hearing intermittent sounds of gunfire and artillery and have done
since we arrived several days
ago.
Since we arrived several days ago. The airstrikes happened in
eastern Syria, deep in isis
the airstrikes happened in eastern Syria, deep in isis territory.
Eastern Syria, deep in isis territory. The Pentagon says it was
targeting an isis convoy, but
the Pentagon says it was targeting an isis convoy, but stopped bombing as soon as
Russians warned that they were
falling on Syrian soldiers and
their venges.
Falling on Syrian soldiers and their venges. The army has come out and said,
that this is proof that the U.S.
is supporting isis and Russia's
ambassador to the united nation
says it puts a great big
question mark over the whole
cease fire agreement.
Question mark over the whole cease fire agreement. >> Osgood: Elizabeth Palmer in
Syria.
29 people were hurt, one of them
seriously when a device exploded
in garbage container in Chelsea
neighborhood last night.
In garbage container in Chelsea neighborhood last night. Sheer Anna Warner.
Neighborhood last night. Sheer Anna Warner. >> Surveillance video show
sheer Anna Warner. >> Surveillance video show people running just moments
>> surveillance video show people running just moments after the blast.
People running just moments after the blast. >> Just like, boom.
After the blast. >> Just like, boom. Just like a huge steel plate
>> just like, boom. Just like a huge steel plate hitting the ground.
That's what it sounded like.
Hitting the ground. That's what it sounded like. >> Police and FBI cordoned off
that's what it sounded like. >> Police and FBI cordoned off the area and began intensive
>> police and FBI cordoned off the area and began intensive search.
The area and began intensive search. Late last nightmare bill de
blasio said no connections to
late last nightmare bill de blasio said no connections to terrorism.
Blasio said no connections to terrorism. >> This wasn't an intentional
act.
>> Police were called to second
site four blocks north where
>> police were called to second site four blocks north where device described as pressure
cooker was found it was removed
by a bomb disposal truck.
Cooker was found it was removed by a bomb disposal truck. This morning, some streets in
the area are still closed as
this morning, some streets in the area are still closed as police continue to investigate
who placed these devices and
why.
Who placed these devices and why. For "Sunday morning" I'm Anna
Warner in New York City.
>> Osgood: Showers and
thunderstorms are possible from
>> osgood: Showers and thunderstorms are possible from the Gulf coast to the northeast.
Thunderstorms are possible from the Gulf coast to the northeast. Hot in the desert southwest to
the California coast.
Is the week ahead summer ends
and autumn falls into place.
Next --
>> you have the power over your
next -- >> you have the power over your destiny.
>> You have the power over your destiny. >> Osgood: It's your lucky
day.
>> Osgood: Many of us have our own good luck charms and rituals, but do they really make
any difference?
Rituals, but do they really make any difference? Can we really make our own luck?
Any difference? Can we really make our own luck? Our cover story is reported by
can we really make our own luck? Our cover story is reported by Susan Spencer.
>> Whether you're hitting the
slots in Vegas --
>> whether you're hitting the slots in Vegas -- >> we're going to rebuild
America!
>> We're going to rebuild America! >> Running for president.
>> Thank you everyone, God
>> running for president. >> Thank you everyone, God bless.
>> Or hoping to hear your name
called out at tonight's emmy
>> or hoping to hear your name called out at tonight's emmy awards, you probably could use a
little luck.
Awards, you probably could use a little luck. ?They call you lady luck ?
Little luck. ?They call you lady luck ? >> As emmy hosts like Neal
Patrick Harris knows so well.
>> Luck itself is beating the
odds.
You have the power over your
destiny.
>> Mathematician Joseph mazur
harnesses his luck by writing
>> mathematician Joseph mazur harnesses his luck by writing about it.
Harnesses his luck by writing about it. He says there's a reason why
people have believed in luck
he says there's a reason why people have believed in luck since the cave man days.
People have believed in luck since the cave man days. It helps us cope with life's
uncertainties.
>> We know the present, we know
the past, but that future is
>> we know the present, we know the past, but that future is really -- we want to be sure
that we have it all under
control.
That we have it all under control. Many people have some lucky
charm like a rabbit's foot.
>> Or whatever else gives them
that elusive feeling of control.
One in three Americans believes
that finding a penny brings good
one in three Americans believes that finding a penny brings good luck.
That finding a penny brings good luck. One in five knocks on wood to
ward off bad luck.
And about that same number
avoids walking under ladders.
Is this nuts?
Avoids walking under ladders. Is this nuts? >> There are things that you can
is this nuts? >> There are things that you can do to increase your luck.
>> But that implies that we have
control over luck.
>> Exactly.
Control over luck. >> Exactly. >> You think we do?
>> I think we do, absolutely.
>> This is good news.
>> Yeah.
>> Unlike the superstitious
>> yeah. >> Unlike the superstitious masses, writer karla starr
>> unlike the superstitious masses, writer karla starr claims to have luck down to a
science, even naming her blog
"the science of luck."
Science, even naming her blog "the science of luck." You think you're lucky.
"The science of luck." You think you're lucky. >> Yes, absolutely.
>> It's that upbeat attitude
>> yes, absolutely. >> It's that upbeat attitude that makes lucky people lucky,
>> it's that upbeat attitude that makes lucky people lucky, she says.
That makes lucky people lucky, she says. Think positive and things will
turn out that way.
>> Lot of research showing that
optimistic people do make their
>> lot of research showing that optimistic people do make their own luck because they have a
higher self-esteem so they're
more likely to persist after
failure.
More likely to persist after failure. >> Take actor jon hamm who
seemed to credit luck when he
>> take actor jon hamm who seemed to credit luck when he won an emmy last year.
Seemed to credit luck when he won an emmy last year. >> There has been a terrible
mistake clearly.
>> Before he landed his starring
role on "mad men" hamm had been
>> before he landed his starring role on "mad men" hamm had been acting in relative obscurity for
more than a decade.
Acting in relative obscurity for more than a decade. He simply kept at it.
More than a decade. He simply kept at it. >> All it takes is that one
he simply kept at it. >> All it takes is that one audition.
>> So this is the science of
luck?
>> If we're lucky it will end up
being a little piece of it
>> if we're lucky it will end up being a little piece of it perhaps.
Being a little piece of it perhaps. >> For university of
Pennsylvania Professor Michael
>> for university of Pennsylvania Professor Michael kearns this is what luck really
looks like.
Kearns this is what luck really looks like. >> This is basically a curve
representing -- kept of
>> this is basically a curve representing -- kept of representation of your pay off
as a function of a probability
of event.
As a function of a probability of event. >> He writes algorithms designed
to control luck.
In investing.
To control luck. In investing. >> Many people on wall street
in investing. >> Many people on wall street take a pretty scientific
>> many people on wall street take a pretty scientific approach to thinking about luck
and to shaping their luck.
Approach to thinking about luck and to shaping their luck. >> Along with teaching, kearns
works for a hedge fund coming up
>> along with teaching, kearns works for a hedge fund coming up with luck shaping formulas,
combining a stock's history with
a client's appetite for risk.
Combining a stock's history with a client's appetite for risk. >> I'm going to compute what the
optimal portfolio or mixture of
stocks would have been to
maximize your pay off.
Stocks would have been to maximize your pay off. >> Make me lucky.
Maximize your pay off. >> Make me lucky. >> That's right, exactly.
>> But the science of luck goes
>> that's right, exactly. >> But the science of luck goes out to window when it comes to
>> but the science of luck goes out to window when it comes to other get rich quick schemes we
love.
Other get rich quick schemes we love. Take the lottery, no, on second
thought, don't.
>> Your expected pay off is
negative.
You expect to lose your money.
Negative. You expect to lose your money. >> You've never bought a lottery
you expect to lose your money. >> You've never bought a lottery ticket?
>> No.
Ticket? >> No. >> Come on.
Everybody --
>> come on. Everybody -- >> I've never bought a lottery
everybody -- >> I've never bought a lottery ticket.
>> Not one?
Ticket. >> Not one? >> No.
>> You don't like lotteries much
>> no. >> You don't like lotteries much as an investment strategy.
>> No, I don't.
As an investment strategy. >> No, I don't. >> Okay, by now you're probably
>> no, I don't. >> Okay, by now you're probably feeling pretty lucky with the
>> okay, by now you're probably feeling pretty lucky with the right algorithm and alternates
woman take Mitch you, too, can
be rich and happy, right?
Woman take Mitch you, too, can be rich and happy, right? Not so fast.
Be rich and happy, right? Not so fast. At your local book store you are
not so fast. At your local book store you are may find entirely different
at your local book store you are may find entirely different story, like the one behind this
award-winning novel.
Story, like the one behind this award-winning novel. >> There's a book called
"fieldwork" it did okay.
It didn't do very well.
"Fieldwork" it did okay. It didn't do very well. >> Until it got an astonishly
it didn't do very well. >> Until it got an astonishly lucky break.
>> Steven king walks into a book
store.
>> The Steven king?
Store. >> The Steven king? >> He picks up this copy of a
>> the Steven king? >> He picks up this copy of a thing called "field work" he
>> he picks up this copy of a thing called "field work" he goes home, reads it.
Thing called "field work" he goes home, reads it. Thinks it's wonderful.
Goes home, reads it. Thinks it's wonderful. He writes for "entertainment
thinks it's wonderful. He writes for "entertainment weekly.
He said this is -- essentially
he's saying this is the great
he said this is -- essentially he's saying this is the great American novel.
He's saying this is the great American novel. >> That's probably all it took.
>> He was a finalist for the
>> that's probably all it took. >> He was a finalist for the national book 'or.
>> Talk about luck.
National book 'or. >> Talk about luck. >> In other words, luck is not
>> talk about luck. >> In other words, luck is not something we control.
Stuff just happens.
Something we control. Stuff just happens. >> The world in some sense is
stuff just happens. >> The world in some sense is just intrinsically random.
>> Sociologist, Duncan watts, a
principle researcher at
>> sociologist, Duncan watts, a principle researcher at Microsoft, says success is
mostly arbitrary.
>> So the Mona Lisa is probably
my favorite example of the role
>> so the Mona Lisa is probably my favorite example of the role of luck in success.
My favorite example of the role of luck in success. Probably the most famous
painting in the world and most
probably the most famous painting in the world and most famous pointing -- painting in
history.
Famous pointing -- painting in history. Like me, and other people going
to the louvre you finally saw
like me, and other people going to the louvre you finally saw the Mona Lisa you might have
been a little disbusiness
pointed.
Been a little disbusiness pointed. You think, really?
Pointed. You think, really? That's what all the fuss is
you think, really? That's what all the fuss is about?
>> The fuss all began with a
series of chance occurrences.
>> The Mona Lisa really only
started to get famous in the
>> the Mona Lisa really only started to get famous in the last century.
Started to get famous in the last century. It sort of sat in palaces of
kings for, you know, a couple of
it sort of sat in palaces of kings for, you know, a couple of hundred years.
Kings for, you know, a couple of hundred years. >> So what changed?
Hundred years. >> So what changed? >> This young Italian who was
>> so what changed? >> This young Italian who was working at the louvre was
>> this young Italian who was working at the louvre was apparently disgruntled that
this, you know, masterpiece that
rightfully belonged in Italy was
sitting in France so he stole
it.
Sitting in France so he stole it. It became this media fiasco and
really drew a lot of attention
it became this media fiasco and really drew a lot of attention to this painting.
Really drew a lot of attention to this painting. >> You're saying that absent
that it might never have become
>> you're saying that absent that it might never have become famous?
That it might never have become famous? >> I suspect that ab isn't that
it would never have become
famous.
It would never have become famous. >> The Mona Lisa got lucky.
Famous. >> The Mona Lisa got lucky. >> It did.
>> But what about the actual
>> it did. >> But what about the actual painting.
Was Leonardo on to something or
is the moan Felicia's fame just
was Leonardo on to something or is the moan Felicia's fame just blind luck?
Is the moan Felicia's fame just blind luck? I could do a painting.
Blind luck? I could do a painting. And, you know, no matter how
much hype it goss, it's unlikely
and, you know, no matter how much hype it goss, it's unlikely it would be put in the same
category with the Mona Lisa.
It would be put in the same category with the Mona Lisa. >> It's not that the things that
success said don't have to be
>> it's not that the things that success said don't have to be good in some sense, many things
are equally good and could
equally have been as successful
and we've never heard of any of
those things.
And we've never heard of any of those things. >> So if you could rewind the
world and let luck play out
>> so if you could rewind the world and let luck play out again, watts says there might
not ab Mona Lisa, or a Bob Dylan
or Harry Potter.
Not ab Mona Lisa, or a Bob Dylan or Harry Potter. All of whom benefited from being
at the right place at the right
all of whom benefited from being at the right place at the right time.
At the right place at the right time. >> There's some random accident
that happens early on.
And then that builds on itself
and that builds on itself.
And then many years later we
have this huge effect that we
and then many years later we have this huge effect that we are unable to explain except by
saying this thing is unique and
special.
Saying this thing is unique and special. >> Do you think you're lucky?
Special. >> Do you think you're lucky? >> Oh, absolutely.
>> Our CBS news poll found seven
>> oh, absolutely. >> Our CBS news poll found seven out of ten Americans feel the
>> our CBS news poll found seven out of ten Americans feel the same way.
Out of ten Americans feel the same way. They are mostly lucky.
Same way. They are mostly lucky. And as luck would have it, that
they are mostly lucky. And as luck would have it, that includes everyone we interview
and as luck would have it, that includes everyone we interview interviewed.
Includes everyone we interview interviewed. What about you?
Interviewed. What about you? >> I do think I'm a lucky guy?
>> Reel glee do you consider
yourself lucky?
>> I do.
Yourself lucky? >> I do. >> Some things are just luck.
>> Many things are just luck.
>> Osgood: Coming up --
>> it's a combination of things. Combination of people you've seen.
Yourself and stuff you invent.
Seen. Yourself and stuff you invent. >> Osgood: It happened this
yourself and stuff you invent. >> Osgood: It happened this past Friday the passing of
>> osgood: It happened this past Friday the passing of playwright Edward albee who died
at his home in montauk,
New York, estranged from his
wealthy adopted parents and
expelled from college, young
albee struggled to become a
writer while working odd jobs in
greenwich village.
Writer while working odd jobs in greenwich village. His one act play "the zoo story"
won him notice in 1960.
But it was his Tony award
winning 196 play "who's afraid
but it was his Tony award winning 196 play "who's afraid of Virginia woolf?"
Winning 196 play "who's afraid of Virginia woolf?" That problem rocket him to fame.
Of Virginia woolf?" That problem rocket him to fame. His portrayal of a bitterly
that problem rocket him to fame. His portrayal of a bitterly feuding college Professor was
his portrayal of a bitterly feuding college Professor was brought to the screen in 1966
with Richard Burton and
Elizabeth Taylor in starring
roles.
>> Here I am stuck with this --
>> Martha.
>> Who is married to the
president's daughter who some
>> who is married to the president's daughter who some expected to be --
>> Virginia woolf!
Expected to be -- >> Virginia woolf! >> Osgood: The winner of three
pulitzer prizes and three Tony
>> osgood: The winner of three pulitzer prizes and three Tony awards, Edward albee was as
outspoken in real life as his
characters were on stage.
Outspoken in real life as his characters were on stage. He once said "if Attila the hu
>> osgood: And in weeks to come we're previewing the new season.
Come we're previewing the new season. To begin our Ben Tracy is seeing
what's up in the world of art.
>> If you've ever left your
heart in San Francisco, the
>> if you've ever left your heart in San Francisco, the city's just reopened museum of
modern art might provide a very
good reason to come back.
Modern art might provide a very good reason to come back. It's been closed for three years
while undergoing a $300 million
it's been closed for three years while undergoing a $300 million renovation.
While undergoing a $300 million renovation. It cost a lot but now it's a lot
bigger.
Nearly three times bigger.
Bigger. Nearly three times bigger. >> We're one of the largest
nearly three times bigger. >> We're one of the largest museums in the country and at
>> we're one of the largest museums in the country and at the moment the largest museum in
terms of gallery square footage
of any modern museum.
Terms of gallery square footage of any modern museum. >> Neal benezra is the museum's
director.
>> That didn't want to have a
bigger building.
A bigger building allows to you
have more promise, more
a bigger building allows to you have more promise, more educational opportunities and
show more art.
Educational opportunities and show more art. >> Which means the museum can
now dedicate its biggerral
>> which means the museum can now dedicate its biggerral galleries to big name artists
such as ellsworth Kelly, Chuck
close, Frank Stella, Roy
lichtenstein and Andy warhol.
Close, Frank Stella, Roy lichtenstein and Andy warhol. Rest assured Elvis has not left
the building.
But if you can't make it here to
San Francisco, don't worry,
but if you can't make it here to San Francisco, don't worry, there's plenty of art to see
across the country.
There's plenty of art to see across the country. Three states over in Colorado,
the Denver art museum explores
three states over in Colorado, the Denver art museum explores Japanese fashion design in its
latest exhibit, shock wave.
And at the kimbell art museum in
fort worth, Texas, monet, the
and at the kimbell art museum in fort worth, Texas, monet, the early years.
Fort worth, Texas, monet, the early years. On the east coast, the
Philadelphia museum of art looks
on the east coast, the Philadelphia museum of art looks South with "paint the
revolution: Mexican modern."
And then there's New York City.
Revolution: Mexican modern." And then there's New York City. Where two highly anticipated
and then there's New York City. Where two highly anticipated exhibits opened this weekend.
At the Whitney, a retrospective
of works from 101 year old ab
at the Whitney, a retrospective of works from 101 year old ab tract artist Carmen herrera.
Of works from 101 year old ab tract artist Carmen herrera. Uptown at the guggenheim the art
is more, well, interactive.
An 18carat golden toilet.
Is more, well, interactive. An 18carat golden toilet. And, yes, you can use it.
It's artists maurizio cattelan
and, yes, you can use it. It's artists maurizio cattelan commentary on economic
it's artists maurizio cattelan commentary on economic disparity, but also our common
humanity.
Disparity, but also our common humanity. It's perhaps one toilet truly
worthy of being called a throne.
>> Give me an excuse c.
Worthy of being called a throne. >> Give me an excuse c. >> Osgood:
>> Osgood: The new season on TV means a brand new season of "NCIS: New Orleans."
Debuting Tuesday night right
here on CBS.
>> In new Orleans recently on a
mercifully not so hot day, actor
>> in new Orleans recently on a mercifully not so hot day, actor Scott bakula was basking in the
big easy where residents have
welcomed him and the the cast of
"NCIS: New Orleans" with open
arms.
>> There's no place where I've
ever been where people are
>> there's no place where I've ever been where people are constantly saying, how do you
like my city?
Constantly saying, how do you like my city? How do you like new Orleans?
Like my city? How do you like new Orleans? How do you like the city?
How do you like the food?
>> The city itself is as big a
how do you like the food? >> The city itself is as big a character as the special agent
>> the city itself is as big a character as the special agent bakula plays.
Character as the special agent bakula plays. >> Put the gun down.
Bakula plays. >> Put the gun down. >> Considering Katrina and the
>> put the gun down. >> Considering Katrina and the subsequent years and the
>> considering Katrina and the subsequent years and the rebuilding, I think you feel
like, yeah, everybody's rooting
for new Orleans and we're no
different.
For new Orleans and we're no different. >> Oh, boy.
Different. >> Oh, boy. >> He has hopped around a lot in
>> oh, boy. >> He has hopped around a lot in his professional life.
In the late '80s he made a
career out of it as the
in the late '80s he made a career out of it as the time-traveling Sam Beckett in
"quantum leap."
Time-traveling Sam Beckett in "quantum leap." >> Anyway, here I am, bouncing
around in time.
Putting things right that once
went wrong, sort of
putting things right that once went wrong, sort of time-traveling lone ranger.
Went wrong, sort of time-traveling lone ranger. >> It made him a household name
and launched him on a television
>> it made him a household name and launched him on a television career that had him playing all
sorts of roles from the Captain
of the starship enterprise.
Sorts of roles from the Captain of the starship enterprise. >> We still have weapons.
Of the starship enterprise. >> We still have weapons. You're not going to get this
>> we still have weapons. You're not going to get this ship without one hell of a
you're not going to get this ship without one hell of a fight.
Ship without one hell of a fight. >> To the scuk stud on "Murphy
brown."
>> My Spanish isn't what it used
to be it's a dried apricot or
>> my Spanish isn't what it used to be it's a dried apricot or human ear.
To be it's a dried apricot or human ear. Neat, huh?
Human ear. Neat, huh? >> Bakula never really relished
neat, huh? >> Bakula never really relished the idea of being TV famous.
You keep your private life very
private?
>> Yeah.
Private? >> Yeah. For a hundred million years
>> yeah. For a hundred million years "people" magazine wanted to do
for a hundred million years "people" magazine wanted to do interviews with me at my home.
"People" magazine wanted to do interviews with me at my home. I said, I can't.
Interviews with me at my home. I said, I can't. >> Where do you stop?
>> That's why we met him near
>> where do you stop? >> That's why we met him near his home at gracias madrea
>> that's why we met him near his home at gracias madrea popular Mexican restaurant.
His home at gracias madrea popular Mexican restaurant. He commutes home from new
Orleans every weekend to spend
he commutes home from new Orleans every weekend to spend time with his second wife,
actress Chelsea field and his
four children.
Actress Chelsea field and his four children. You're somebody who is so
well-known and yet you're not
you're somebody who is so well-known and yet you're not known for your personal life.
Well-known and yet you're not known for your personal life. You're not known for being in
the tabloids.
You're known purely for your
work.
>> And a lot of it.
Work. >> And a lot of it. >> Which is remarkable.
>> That's what's wrong with my
>> which is remarkable. >> That's what's wrong with my career.
You summed it up in one
sentence.
>> If it all sounds a bit
non-Hollywood, maybe that's
>> if it all sounds a bit non-Hollywood, maybe that's because bakula didn't grow up in
Hollywood.
Because bakula didn't grow up in Hollywood. He was born in the midwest,
St. Louis to be exact.
>> My dad was a hard working
guy, my mom raised three kids
>> my dad was a hard working guy, my mom raised three kids and we grew up kind of
insulated.
And we grew up kind of insulated. >> It was at his presbyterian
church where the acting bug bit,
>> it was at his presbyterian church where the acting bug bit, especially musicals.
Church where the acting bug bit, especially musicals. He liked singing so much, he
dropped out of college where he
he liked singing so much, he dropped out of college where he was planning to be a lawyer and
headed for the bright lights of
Broadway.
Headed for the bright lights of Broadway. Fingers crossed.
>> I went to New York to be an
fingers crossed. >> I went to New York to be an actor and hope that I could do
stage work and be on Broadway
and do musicals.
Stage work and be on Broadway and do musicals. I just had to go to New York and
see if I could make it.
>> And make it he did.
See if I could make it. >> And make it he did. Eventually landing the lead role
>> and make it he did. Eventually landing the lead role in the musical "romance romance"
eventually landing the lead role in the musical "romance romance" a performance that earned bakula
a Tony nomination.
A performance that earned bakula a Tony nomination. ?
A Tony nomination. ? >> But then a funny thing
happened, bakula bailed on
>> but then a funny thing happened, bakula bailed on Broadway and headed west.
Happened, bakula bailed on Broadway and headed west. >> People are like, what are you
doing?
You're starring in a Broadway
show and you're six months into
you're starring in a Broadway show and you're six months into the run and you got a Tony
nomination and you're going back
to L.A., why?
Nomination and you're going back to L.A., why? >> Why?
To L.A., why? >> Why? To see if his musical chops on
>> why? To see if his musical chops on stage could get him noticed by
to see if his musical chops on stage could get him noticed by Hollywood, even if the process a
little odd.
>> Nobody in L.A. goes to see
the theater but if they hear
>> nobody in L.A. goes to see the theater but if they hear that you're good then that's
enough.
That you're good then that's enough. >> Is that true?
Enough. >> Is that true? >> Maybe it's changed.
My gosh, you saw the show?
No, but we heard it was great.
>> The word of mouth spread,
no, but we heard it was great. >> The word of mouth spread, what musicals had to do with
>> the word of mouth spread, what musicals had to do with Sci-Fi shows is anybody's guess
but bakula rose to the occasion.
And even found a way to squeeze
in a little music when he could.
>> ?Imagine there's no
heaven ?
>> Not only sings he plays, too,
especially the piano.
>> I'm not as good as I'd like
to be.
>> But you still play quite a
bit.
>> I do.
Bit. >> I do. But I'm a hack.
Especially in new Orleans.
>> A hack, hardly.
>> ?Take care of the
>> a hack, hardly. >> ?Take care of the children, children of the
world ?
Children, children of the world ? Par may the strongest hope for
the future ?
>> He's good enough that even in
the middle of a police
>> he's good enough that even in the middle of a police procedural, the writers have
made room for bakula to play.
Procedural, the writers have made room for bakula to play. >> Makes the show a little
different, a little unique, a
>> makes the show a little different, a little unique, a little special.
Different, a little unique, a little special. Make the world a better place.
Little special. Make the world a better place. >> Being on a show with some 15
make the world a better place. >> Being on a show with some 15 million viewers and being
>> being on a show with some 15 million viewers and being immersed in the new Orleans
music scenes for bakula the best
of both worlds.
Music scenes for bakula the best of both worlds. >> I'm overwhelmed by, not just
being here but in the history of
the music, but the number of
good players that are in the
city.
Good players that are in the city. >> He took us to the new Orleans
jazz museum where a piano used
>> he took us to the new Orleans jazz museum where a piano used by legendary jazz and blues
artist Dr. John is on display
which holds a special
significance.
Which holds a special significance. Dr. John actually dropped by as
a guest on "NCIS: New Orleans"
awhile back, a perk bakula says
you might not get in any other
city.
You might not get in any other city. >> He plays crazy, he was
telling me a story about getting
>> he plays crazy, he was telling me a story about getting his fingers shot off that
affected his playing for awhile.
His fingers shot off that affected his playing for awhile. ?
Affected his playing for awhile. ? >> Music remains the single note
that resonates through a career
>> music remains the single note that resonates through a career that has gone in every which
direction, whether he's a
special agent, a friend of
liberace's or just a man of a
certain age.
Liberace's or just a man of a certain age. Scott bakula has become a
familiar face in the sea of
faces he's had the opportunity
to play.
Faces he's had the opportunity to play. >> I've tried to do different
things and I think that's kind
of kept me alive and vital.
Things and I think that's kind of kept me alive and vital. >> Is that the secret you think
is just to keep trying to rein
>> is that the secret you think is just to keep trying to rein haven't yourself?
Is just to keep trying to rein haven't yourself? >> Maybe.
Haven't yourself? >> Maybe. However I present myself I guess
>> maybe. However I present myself I guess and people's perception of me, I
however I present myself I guess and people's perception of me, I don't seem to be stuck in any
kind of a creative rut.
Don't seem to be stuck in any kind of a creative rut. I'm grateful for that, people
are giving me the chance to do
that.
Are giving me the chance to do that. ?
That. ? >> Osgood: Next, on tour with
the Beatles.
But later -- >> home is right up here. It is now a parking lot.
>> Home is right up here. It is now a parking lot. >> Osgood:
? >> Osgood: All my loving" was a hit for the Beatles way back
>> osgood: All my loving" was a hit for the Beatles way back in 1963.
A hit for the Beatles way back in 1963. Now with the release of a new
documentary film about the
now with the release of a new documentary film about the batched's touring days, Anthony
Mason sat down with the two
surviving Beatles for some
questions and answers.
Surviving Beatles for some questions and answers. >> Here are the Beatles!
Questions and answers. >> Here are the Beatles! >> The Beatles assent was like a
>> here are the Beatles! >> The Beatles assent was like a space shot.
?And when Ringo starr joined
John Lennon, Paul McCartney
and George Harrison in is the 26
all the astronauts were aboard.
And George Harrison in is the 26 all the astronauts were aboard. ?
All the astronauts were aboard. ? >> When Ringo joined, then it
was like a real rocketship.
It was like, whoa, wait a
minute.
This is it.
Minute. This is it. >> You became a band then.
>> We were out to capture the
>> you became a band then. >> We were out to capture the world.
>> The new documentary "eight
days a week: The touring years"
>> the new documentary "eight days a week: The touring years" follows the Beatles on the road
from 1963 to '66 in hire heady
climb into the pop culture
heavens.
Climb into the pop culture heavens. ?
Heavens. ? >> Before the real craziness
started.
They were just an unbelievably
tight band.
>> Ron Howard, brought in to
direct the film, says many of
the performances include newly
restored footage.
The performances include newly restored footage. >> This is candlestick park?
Restored footage. >> This is candlestick park? >> It's the last live
>> this is candlestick park? >> It's the last live appearance.
>> And newly discovered film.
Appearance. >> And newly discovered film. >> There was actually no
>> and newly discovered film. >> There was actually no official footage of candlestick.
>> No, that footage was found
under a lady's bed, most of it.
This lady called in and
basically said, you know, I went
this lady called in and basically said, you know, I went to that candlestick.
Basically said, you know, I went to that candlestick. I took some movies.
To that candlestick. I took some movies. I never developed 'em.
Do you guys wanted to look?
>> I love it being under her
do you guys wanted to look? >> I love it being under her bed.
>> Yeah.
Bed. >> Yeah. I didn't realize she had never
>> yeah. I didn't realize she had never looked at it.
>> That's great.
Looked at it. >> That's great. >> Like, who's Picasso?
>> We talked with Howard and the
>> like, who's Picasso? >> We talked with Howard and the two surviving Beatles, Paul and
>> we talked with Howard and the two surviving Beatles, Paul and Ringo, this past week at abbey
road studios in London, where
the Beatles used to make pit
stops between tour dates to
record with producer George
Martin.
Record with producer George Martin. >> We'd come in here.
It was only me and John knew
>> we'd come in here. It was only me and John knew what we were going to do that
it was only me and John knew what we were going to do that day.
What we were going to do that day. Because we just written it.
Day. Because we just written it. George Martin would come down
because we just written it. George Martin would come down from the sort of gone up's box
he'd say, what are you going to
do?
He'd say, what are you going to do? Okay, whatever it was.
Do? Okay, whatever it was. Next one and half hours we'd
okay, whatever it was. Next one and half hours we'd make that song.
?
>> What do you feel when you hear the Beatles singing? >> I think I'm going to drop
dead.
>> Sheer beauty.
Dead. >> Sheer beauty. ?
>> As beatle mania built, the
flood of fans forced them to
>> as beatle mania built, the flood of fans forced them to invent arena rock.
Flood of fans forced them to invent arena rock. >> And then when we end up the
shea, because that was the
>> and then when we end up the shea, because that was the biggest thing we'd ever done.
Shea, because that was the biggest thing we'd ever done. It was like, far out.
Biggest thing we'd ever done. It was like, far out. It was like, what?
?
>> At New York's shea stadium in
August of 1965, they played
>> at New York's shea stadium in August of 1965, they played before 56,000 fans.
When you started playing
stadiums, arenas, did you plan
when you started playing stadiums, arenas, did you plan for that in any way?
Stadiums, arenas, did you plan for that in any way? >> No, not really.
For that in any way? >> No, not really. I don't think we planned for
>> no, not really. I don't think we planned for anything.
>> We just went on with what we
had.
>> They had only two roadies one
of them, mo Evans.
>> All our equipment had to be
big enough for mal to carry it.
The noise was constant.
Big enough for mal to carry it. The noise was constant. >> Yeah.
>> It never 'baits.
>> No.
At first the screaming was great
>> no. At first the screaming was great because it meant we were
at first the screaming was great because it meant we were success.
Because it meant we were success. It was just like -- hey, whoa.
Success. It was just like -- hey, whoa. I can't hear you.
>> Just becomes part of it.
It was like, that's what happens
>> just becomes part of it. It was like, that's what happens when we go on stage and this is
it was like, that's what happens when we go on stage and this is what happens.
When we go on stage and this is what happens. It did diminish a little as
musicians.
>> It sounds good.
Musicians. >> It sounds good. >> Why does it sod good?
How could it sound that good
>> why does it sod good? How could it sound that good when you couldn't hear yourself.
>> We played our best no matter
what.
>> I couldn't hear them.
What. >> I couldn't hear them. >> You couldn't hear them?
>> I was playing, you know, to
>> you couldn't hear them? >> I was playing, you know, to his foot tapping, to John's
bouncing.
His foot tapping, to John's bouncing. You know, when they went -- I
couldn't hear that.
I just saw the head always
thought, whoo!
[ Screaming ] >> The thing is, though, because we put in so many hours as kids,
>> the thing is, though, because we put in so many hours as kids, we instinctively knew what to do
as a band.
We instinctively knew what to do as a band. We were making a pretty good
noise most of the time, not
we were making a pretty good noise most of the time, not always.
Noise most of the time, not always. ?
Always. ? >> On their first trip into the
American South, the Beatles
>> on their first trip into the American South, the Beatles unwittingly waded into dangerous
political waters.
Unwittingly waded into dangerous political waters. Before a concert at the gator
bowl in Jacksonville, Florida,
before a concert at the gator bowl in Jacksonville, Florida, the band was told the audience
could be segregated.
The band was told the audience could be segregated. How did that get brought up to
you.
>> Brian would have mentioned
it.
>> Brian Epstein, our manager,
would have just said, you know,
this show, they are segregated.
Would have just said, you know, this show, they are segregated. Be black people over here and
white people over here we were
be black people over here and white people over here we were --
>> what?
>> Are you joking?
>> What? >> Are you joking? We play back, white, all the
>> are you joking? We play back, white, all the bands we just played together.
We actually put in the contract.
Bands we just played together. We actually put in the contract. It wasn't a big political
we actually put in the contract. It wasn't a big political gesture just instinct.
Why shouldn't black and white
people --
why shouldn't black and white people -- >> nobody raised the political
--
>> no, it wasn't political to
us.
>> No, it wasn't political to us. It was just like, no, we're not
doing it.
>> The gator bowl relented and
the audience was integrated.
But the crowds and the commotion
around their appearances grew.
Was there a specific point you
remember when you really started
was there a specific point you remember when you really started getting tired of it?
Remember when you really started getting tired of it? >> Yeah.
Getting tired of it? >> Yeah. Say felt personally I was not
>> yeah. Say felt personally I was not playing the best I could.
Because I just had to like stay
in that song.
>> It came to the final concert
in candlestick park.
We were all getting a bit fed
up.
I was still resisting, oh, yeah,
it's good.
We got put in this van, which
was like chrome interior.
We were just sliding around in
there we all looked at each
we were just sliding around in there we all looked at each other, you're right.
There we all looked at each other, you're right. This is it.
Other, you're right. This is it. Forget it.
This is just stupid.
Because conditions were brutal.
>> After that concert in August
because conditions were brutal. >> After that concert in August 1966, the Beatles retreated to
>> after that concert in August 1966, the Beatles retreated to the studio.
That November at abbey road,
they began recording sergeant
that November at abbey road, they began recording sergeant pepper's lonely hearts club
band.
Pepper's lonely hearts club band. They never toured again.
Band. They never toured again. Three years later they broke up.
By the end it became quite
three years later they broke up. By the end it became quite complicated, McCartney says in
by the end it became quite complicated, McCartney says in the film.
Complicated, McCartney says in the film. But in the beginning, things
were really simple.
>> That was the thing about the
Beatles, we were a great little
>> that was the thing about the Beatles, we were a great little band.
>> What a fall it's going to be, clown comedy, apocalyptic horror and that's just the election.
Clown comedy, apocalyptic horror and that's just the election. I have more confidence in the
movies, show I got to say I
haven't seen them yet so I
reserve the right to get you
excited now and up to the road
say, never mind.
Excited now and up to the road say, never mind. >> You are a child of God.
Say, never mind. >> You are a child of God. You got purpose.
>> The movie everyone's talking
you got purpose. >> The movie everyone's talking about is "birth of a nation" not
>> the movie everyone's talking about is "birth of a nation" not d.W. Griffith's pro-klan epic.
About is "birth of a nation" not d.W. Griffith's pro-klan epic. >> You listen to him.
D.W. Griffith's pro-klan epic. >> You listen to him. You might make it into heaven.
>> The one directed by Nate
you might make it into heaven. >> The one directed by Nate Parker, who stars as the slave
>> the one directed by Nate Parker, who stars as the slave nat Turner.
He doesn't suffer passively like
the hero of "12 years a slave"
he doesn't suffer passively like the hero of "12 years a slave" he becomes a bloody
revolutionary, a terrorist, his
cause righteous but his killing
barbaric.
Cause righteous but his killing barbaric. As if that weren't controversial
enough, park her has been forced
as if that weren't controversial enough, park her has been forced to search his soul publicly over
a sexual assault charge dating
from college days.
A sexual assault charge dating from college days. A court cleared him but the
studio is worried about the
a court cleared him but the studio is worried about the court of Oscar voters.
Studio is worried about the court of Oscar voters. Speaking of controversy, there's
a new movie from Mel Gibson.
Say what you will about mad Mel,
and if you're me you could say
say what you will about mad Mel, and if you're me you could say plenty, he's a sensational
filmmaker and the response to
"hack saw Ridge" at the venice
film festival was ecstatic.
"Hack saw Ridge" at the venice film festival was ecstatic. It's a great subject for Gibson,
who is always ready to pick up a
it's a great subject for Gibson, who is always ready to pick up a gun and start blasting.
Who is always ready to pick up a gun and start blasting. The true story of a
conscientious objector who
the true story of a conscientious objector who refused to kill or even carry a
weapon, but served in world war
ii and saved lives.
Weapon, but served in world war ii and saved lives. There's fantastic buzz on the
Sci-Fi invasion thrill sneer
there's fantastic buzz on the Sci-Fi invasion thrill sneer arrival: "Arrival."
The hero isn't a he-man but a
female linguist played by Amy
the hero isn't a he-man but a female linguist played by Amy Adams who strives to learn the
aillyians' language to avert
war.
Aillyians' language to avert war. >> What, can't speak English?
War. >> What, can't speak English? Not welcome in this country.
The word is also amazing on
not welcome in this country. The word is also amazing on "Manchester by the sea" directed
the word is also amazing on "Manchester by the sea" directed by Kenneth lonergan, one of
America's best living
playwrights in which Casey
affleck plays a Boston janitor
who becomes the guardian of his
dead brother's 15-year-old son.
Who becomes the guardian of his dead brother's 15-year-old son. >> Please just go away.
Dead brother's 15-year-old son. >> Please just go away. >> That takes us through the
>> please just go away. >> That takes us through the holidays which are also jammed
>> that takes us through the holidays which are also jammed with great looking movies that I
hope to love but reserve the
right to say are terrible.
Hope to love but reserve the right to say are terrible. >> Always going to be here.
Right to say are terrible. >> Always going to be here. Apparently it's not.
>> Osgood: Standing the test
apparently it's not. >> Osgood: Standing the test of time, next.
>> Osgood: A long standing witness to American history will soon be no more.
Witness to American history will soon be no more. Steve hartman has been to a town
filled with mourners.
>> At the basketballing Ridge
presbyterian church in basking
>> at the basketballing Ridge presbyterian church in basking Ridge, New Jersey, they don't
need stained glass to make their
windows breathtaking.
Need stained glass to make their windows breathtaking. >> It was built in 1717.
Windows breathtaking. >> It was built in 1717. >> Parishioner jon klippel says
>> it was built in 1717. >> Parishioner jon klippel says for the entire 300 year history
>> parishioner jon klippel says for the entire 300 year history of this church one of the most
magnificent oak trees known to
man has been filling the panes
here.
Man has been filling the panes here. >> Everybody that has ever lived
here has recognized that tree as
>> everybody that has ever lived here has recognized that tree as sort of a symbol of home.
Here has recognized that tree as sort of a symbol of home. >> George Washington walked past
it.
Some of his soldiers are buried
under it.
The tree predates America,
Columbus, pretty much everything
the tree predates America, Columbus, pretty much everything we know came after this one,
this 600 year old oak.
We know came after this one, this 600 year old oak. Now our matriarch is fading.
This 600 year old oak. Now our matriarch is fading. After decades of leaning on
now our matriarch is fading. After decades of leaning on cables and crutches, experts say
after decades of leaning on cables and crutches, experts say the oldest white oak tree in
north America is on its last
limbs.
North America is on its last limbs. Local residents can't believe
it.
>> It just kind of feels like a
part of the town dying with it.
>> No one thought about the tree
drying.
One of those things that was
going to go on forever.
>> That's what a lot of people
thought it was always going to
>> that's what a lot of people thought it was always going to be here.
Thought it was always going to be here. But apparently it's not.
Be here. But apparently it's not. >> For the folks of basking
but apparently it's not. >> For the folks of basking Ridge, is the very much a
>> for the folks of basking Ridge, is the very much a grieving process.
>> Loss, or the anticipation of
loss, is traumatic.
People have to go through their
own steps of reconciliation with
people have to go through their own steps of reconciliation with it.
Own steps of reconciliation with it. >> For centuries, the tree has
been an ever present metaphor
>> for centuries, the tree has been an ever present metaphor for preachers at this pulpit.
Been an ever present metaphor for preachers at this pulpit. Whether the lesson was
perseverance or patience,
whether the lesson was perseverance or patience, creation or resurrection, the
tree helped teach it all.
Creation or resurrection, the tree helped teach it all. And soon will come its final
lesson.
Maybe a sermon about the cycle
of life, or maybe they will just
maybe a sermon about the cycle of life, or maybe they will just take a minute to stare out the
window one last time.
Take a minute to stare out the window one last time. It's the finest stained glass
picture God ever created.
? >> Osgood: Ahead, Bruce
? >> It's the new season on "Sunday morning."
Here again is Charles osgood.
>> Osgood: Songs such as
here again is Charles osgood. >> Osgood: Songs such as "glory days" have made him a
>> osgood: Songs such as "glory days" have made him a music legend.
"Glory days" have made him a music legend. Bruce Springsteen has been
singing about his own life and
times for some 40 years.
Singing about his own life and times for some 40 years. Now at last he's written about
it as well.
Here once again is our music
man, Anthony Mason.
?
Man, Anthony Mason. ? >> In the final dates of his
international tour that ended
>> in the final dates of his international tour that ended this past week, Bruce spring
teen played one four-hour gig
after another.
Teen played one four-hour gig after another. How do you keep doing that?
After another. How do you keep doing that? >> I'm conditioned to do it from
how do you keep doing that? >> I'm conditioned to do it from many, many years of experience.
Don't try this at home kids.
Many, many years of experience. Don't try this at home kids. >> It's the one arena where the
don't try this at home kids. >> It's the one arena where the singer, who turns 67 this week,
>> it's the one arena where the singer, who turns 67 this week, can control the clock.
Singer, who turns 67 this week, can control the clock. >> You're looking for a
particular moment, then when you
>> you're looking for a particular moment, then when you catch that it feels so good
sometimes.
Catch that it feels so good sometimes. Then time disappears, you know?
Sometimes. Then time disappears, you know? ?
Tired, though it's amazing how you can do it every night when you're called to.
You can do it every night when you're called to. >> We met on the singer's new
Jersey farm recently at the
>> we met on the singer's new Jersey farm recently at the recording studio he built there.
What r do you think your drive
comes from?
>> I believe every artist had
someone who told them they
weren't worth dirt and someone
who told them that they were the
second coming of the baby Jesus
and they believed 'em both.
Second coming of the baby Jesus and they believed 'em both. And that's the fuel that starts
the fire.
>> For Springsteen, the fire
started in freehold, New Jersey.
Where was home?
Started in freehold, New Jersey. Where was home? >> Home was right up here.
>> On the block around the
>> home was right up here. >> On the block around the lima catholic
>> on the block around the lima catholic church.
Lima catholic church. >> My house was here, church was
there, my aunt's house was
>> my house was here, church was there, my aunt's house was there.
There, my aunt's house was there. My other aunt's house was right
next door.
>> The grinding hypnotic power
of this ruined place would never
>> the grinding hypnotic power of this ruined place would never leave me, he writes in "born to
run" his new autobiography
published by Simon and shoesera
division of CBS, Doug and Adele
Springsteen's son found both
comfort and fear here.
His mothera legal secretary,
rented him his first guitar.
His father, who worked at Ford,
was an angry man.
He loved me, Springsteen writes,
but cooperate stand me.
>> Oh, my, gosh.
But cooperate stand me. >> Oh, my, gosh. >> My feelings exactly.
>> We made a surprise visit to
>> my feelings exactly. >> We made a surprise visit to the school at St. rose of lima.
>> I'm gettin' the willies.
The school at St. rose of lima. >> I'm gettin' the willies. >> He's beloved here now.
It was different when he was in
>> he's beloved here now. It was different when he was in class.
>> How did do you when you were
here?
>> Not particularly well, you
know.
I was -- I didn't fit in the box
so well.
>> Do I read that they called
you springy?
>> Yes.
You springy? >> Yes. That is correct, my friend.
Amongst many other things.
>> Long after he moved away,
amongst many other things. >> Long after he moved away, Springsteen would drive back at
>> long after he moved away, Springsteen would drive back at times to freehold.
>> I may still cruise through
every once in awhile.
>> What are you looking for when
you do?
>> Well, they say -- they say
you're lookin' to make things
>> well, they say -- they say you're lookin' to make things all right again, you know?
You're lookin' to make things all right again, you know? Of course, there's no going
back, you know.
>> The long haired guitar
slinger who earned his stripes
>> the long haired guitar slinger who earned his stripes in the bars of asbury park was
just 22 when he was signed to
Columbia records.
Just 22 when he was signed to Columbia records. ?His first two albums did not
sell well, so he poured his soul
into a new song called "born to
run."
Into a new song called "born to run." ?You were reaching for
something epic.
>> Well, I was trying to make
the greatest record you'd ever
>> well, I was trying to make the greatest record you'd ever heard.
The greatest record you'd ever heard. The record that after you heard
it, you didn't have to hear
the record that after you heard it, you didn't have to hear another record, you know?
>> "Born to run" launched Bruce Springsteen. The album's now iconic cover
also featured sax player,
the album's now iconic cover also featured sax player, Clarence clemons.
Also featured sax player, Clarence clemons. Bruce's myth I can sidekick.
The big man's imposing presence
came to symbolize the
the big man's imposing presence came to symbolize the brotherhood of the e street
band.
Brotherhood of the e street band. How would you describe your
relationship with Clarence?
>> It was very primal, you know.
Relationship with Clarence? >> It was very primal, you know. It was just, you're some missing
>> it was very primal, you know. It was just, you're some missing part of me, you're some dream
it was just, you're some missing part of me, you're some dream I'm having.
Part of me, you're some dream I'm having. ?He was such this huge force,
you know? While at the same time being very fragile and very dependent
while at the same time being very fragile and very dependent himself, which is maybe what the
two of us had in common.
Himself, which is maybe what the two of us had in common. We were both kinda insecure down
inside.
And we both felt kinda fragile
and unsure of ourselves.
But when we were together we
felt really powerful.
We were very different people,
you know.
Clarence lived fast and loose
and wild and wide open, you
know.
And wild and wide open, you know. I tended to be a little more
conservative.
>> You said off stage you
couldn't be friends.
>> I couldn't because it would
ruin my life.
Clarence could be Clarence
excellently.
He was very good at it.
Excellently. He was very good at it. >> Until his health began a long
he was very good at it. >> Until his health began a long decline.
In 2011, clemons suffered a
stroke and died days later.
"Losing Clarence" Springsteen
twice, "was like losing the
"losing Clarence" Springsteen twice, "was like losing the rain."
Twice, "was like losing the rain." >> It happened very quick and
suddenly was quite
>> it happened very quick and suddenly was quite >> when something like that,
that as you say came magically
to begin with, goes away, you
got to be sitting there going,
how do I replace this?
Got to be sitting there going, how do I replace this? >> There's no replacing
Clarence.
You got to do something else.
>> Clarence had mentioned he
you got to do something else. >> Clarence had mentioned he had a sax playing nephew, Jake
clemons.
Had a sax playing nephew, Jake clemons. Springsteen turned to him to
resolve the band's identity
crisis.
Resolve the band's identity crisis. When you saw this was finally
working, was it a relief?
>> Oh, yeah, are you kidding?
Working, was it a relief? >> Oh, yeah, are you kidding? It was like the weight of the
>> oh, yeah, are you kidding? It was like the weight of the world off my shoulders, you
it was like the weight of the world off my shoulders, you know.
World off my shoulders, you know. >> Springsteen faced an even
greater challenge as he entered
his 60s, a crippling attack of
depression that he'd battle with
the help of his wife and e
street band member, Patti
scialfa.
Street band member, Patti scialfa. >> It lasted for a long time, in
my 60s, it lasted for a year
>> it lasted for a long time, in my 60s, it lasted for a year then strip away then come back
for a year and a half.
Then strip away then come back for a year and a half. >> Do you see it coming?
For a year and a half. >> Do you see it coming? Do you feel it coming?
>> Not really, you know.
It sneaks up on you.
It's like this thing that
it sneaks up on you. It's like this thing that engulfs you.
I got to where I didn't want to
get out of bed, you know?
And you're not behaving very
well at home and you're tough on
and you're not behaving very well at home and you're tough on everybody.
Well at home and you're tough on everybody. Hopefully not the kids.
Everybody. Hopefully not the kids. I always try to hide it from the
hopefully not the kids. I always try to hide it from the kids.
But, you know, Patti really had
to work with me through it.
And she was -- her strength and
the love she had was very
and she was -- her strength and the love she had was very important as far as guiding me
through it.
Important as far as guiding me through it. You're going to be okay.
Through it. You're going to be okay. Maybe not today or tomorrow.
But it's going to be all right.
>> You still function with it?
>> Yeah.
My thing is, for some reason, it
>> yeah. My thing is, for some reason, it never affected my work or any of
my thing is, for some reason, it never affected my work or any of my playing.
Never affected my work or any of my playing. It was something, if I was dead
down, when I came in the studio
it was something, if I was dead down, when I came in the studio I could work.
Down, when I came in the studio I could work. >> Springsteen, who wrote about
it in the song "this depression"
finally got through it with
therapy and medication.
Finally got through it with therapy and medication. ?This is my confession ?
Therapy and medication. ?This is my confession ? I need your heart in this
depression ]
>> His late father also suffered
from mental illness.
And much of Springsteen's book
is an attempt to write a new
and much of Springsteen's book is an attempt to write a new ending to their relationship.
Is an attempt to write a new ending to their relationship. >> Yeah, my dad was very
important in it, because I felt
>> yeah, my dad was very important in it, because I felt I hadn't completely fair to him
in my music.
>> How do you feel you were
unfair?
>> I think I left an image of
him as sort of this very
domineering character, which he
could be at different times.
Domineering character, which he could be at different times. And he could be frightening.
Could be at different times. And he could be frightening. But he was also much, much more.
He had a much more complicated
but he was also much, much more. He had a much more complicated life.
>> He describes an unannounced
visit his father made to see him
>> he describes an unannounced visit his father made to see him just days before the first of
his three children was born.
Just days before the first of his three children was born. What did he say to you?
His three children was born. What did he say to you? >> You're going to get me now,
what did he say to you? >> You're going to get me now, man.
He showed up at my door.
Man. He showed up at my door. He came in, we had a couple of
he showed up at my door. He came in, we had a couple of beers.
It was early in the morning and
I think he said, hey, you know,
it was early in the morning and I think he said, hey, you know, you've been really good to us.
I said, I wasn't so good to you. I said, well, you did the best you could, you know?
And that was it.
You could, you know? And that was it. That was the only recognition I
and that was it. That was the only recognition I needed of our history.
>> It was a little thing but it
was everything?
>> It was a small thing but it
was everything.
It changed our relationship
immediately.
It was just a lovely gift.
Immediately. It was just a lovely gift. It was a lovely epilogue to our
it was just a lovely gift. It was a lovely epilogue to our relationship, you know.
It really was.
Relationship, you know. It really was. >> The relationship Bruce
it really was. >> The relationship Bruce Springsteen has with his fans is
>> the relationship Bruce Springsteen has with his fans is deep and enduring.
>> I'm still in love with
playing.
And my attitude at this point in
mislive, this is what I love to
and my attitude at this point in mislive, this is what I love to do.
Mislive, this is what I love to do. I want to do as much of it as I
can.
>> Thank you, Philly!
Can. >> Thank you, Philly! >> Again and again on this tour,
>> thank you, Philly! >> Again and again on this tour, he played --
>> again and again on this tour, he played -- >> e street band loves you!
He played -- >> e street band loves you! >> He played his longest shows
ever in the U.S.
around four hours every night.
Ever in the U.S. around four hours every night. You could play for just two and
a half hours, you know?
>> I suppose I could.
A half hours, you know? >> I suppose I could. Nah!
>> Osgood: Coming up --
>> osgood: This is macey a siberian husky puppy who just may grow up to become a sled dog
some day.
May grow up to become a sled dog some day. Same line of work pursued by the
dogs that Conor knighton met at
same line of work pursued by the dogs that Conor knighton met at denali national park in Alaska.
Dogs that Conor knighton met at denali national park in Alaska. >> This is cupcake.
Denali national park in Alaska. >> This is cupcake. >> Hi, cupcake.
Oh.
It hurts, it hurts so much.
>> If you're anything like me
it hurts, it hurts so much. >> If you're anything like me you're going to need a minute
>> if you're anything like me you're going to need a minute here.
You're going to need a minute here. It's okay.
Here. It's okay. Take your time.
Get it out of your system.
Take a deep breath and say
get it out of your system. Take a deep breath and say awwww.
More puppies!
Awwww. More puppies! I want all the puppies?
These adorable little guys and
girls, five of them total, were
these adorable little guys and girls, five of them total, were born in July at the denali
national park.
Born in July at the denali national park. Cupcake, happy, party, pi袮ta
and hundo were named in honor of
cupcake, happy, party, pi袮ta and hundo were named in honor of the hundredth anniversary of the
park service.
The hundredth anniversary of the park service. Denali, formerly mt. McKinley,
turns 100 next year.
And these pups are just the
latest additions to a legacy of
and these pups are just the latest additions to a legacy of Alaskan sled dogs as old as the
park itself.
The first superintendent was a
veteran dog musher named Harry
the first superintendent was a veteran dog musher named Harry karstens who used a team of sled
dogs to patrol the back country
looking for poachers.
Dogs to patrol the back country looking for poachers. As the park grew, it needed a
supply of well-trained dogs.
Karstens established the first
and only working kennel in a
karstens established the first and only working kennel in a national park.
And only working kennel in a national park. >> We always joke that they're
the happiest government
>> we always joke that they're the happiest government employees you'll ever meet.
The happiest government employees you'll ever meet. It's really, really true.
Employees you'll ever meet. It's really, really true. >> The stays between 30-35 dogs.
>> Jennifer is the current
>> the stays between 30-35 dogs. >> Jennifer is the current kennels manager at denali.
Looking after the stable of
canine rangers.
And while a dog team may seem
like a throw back to another
and while a dog team may seem like a throw back to another era, they're very much in use
today.
Era, they're very much in use today. >> The really amazing things
about dog teams in Alaska is
>> the really amazing things about dog teams in Alaska is that sometimes they still prove
to be the most reliable and
effective means of
transportation in really
challenging winter conditions.
Transportation in really challenging winter conditions. You know, if you're out at 50
below you try start upment snow
you know, if you're out at 50 below you try start upment snow machine, it may or may not
start.
Machine, it may or may not start. At 50 below I say good morning
these guys all jump up up and
at 50 below I say good morning these guys all jump up up and ready to go.
These guys all jump up up and ready to go. >> In the trimming it winter
months these dogs can run well
>> in the trimming it winter months these dogs can run well over a thousand Miles, shuttling
supplies and creating trails.
Over a thousand Miles, shuttling supplies and creating trails. They come with a built in GPS.
Supplies and creating trails. They come with a built in GPS. >> Navigation family do they
they come with a built in GPS. >> Navigation family do they help you at all?
>> Incredibly so.
Help you at all? >> Incredibly so. These dogs have brains and
>> incredibly so. These dogs have brains and hearts and memories better than
these dogs have brains and hearts and memories better than most rangers.
Hearts and memories better than most rangers. >> Perhaps most importantly,
they do all of this quietly.
In 1980, two million acres of
denali were designated as
in 1980, two million acres of denali were designated as federally protected wilderness.
Denali were designated as federally protected wilderness. That means no forms of
mechanized transport allowed.
These dogs were bred to sled.
Mechanized transport allowed. These dogs were bred to sled. During summer presentations they
these dogs were bred to sled. During summer presentations they show off their skills around the
during summer presentations they show off their skills around the kennel track.
Show off their skills around the kennel track. As soon as people see the dogs
want to run and pull a sled
as soon as people see the dogs want to run and pull a sled that's the highlight of every
program for them.
That's the highlight of every program for them. >> All summer long the canine
rangers get to meet their
>> all summer long the canine rangers get to meet their adoring public.
Rangers get to meet their adoring public. Volunteer walkers help them stay
in shape.
And the staff takes small groups
out to play.
Eventually after nine years or
so of service it's time for
eventually after nine years or so of service it's time for retirement.
So of service it's time for retirement. The park matches the dogs with
active owners like the winter
the park matches the dogs with active owners like the winter family.
Active owners like the winter family. >> We still go for our two-mile
runs that's pretty much a part
>> we still go for our two-mile runs that's pretty much a part of her routine.
Runs that's pretty much a part of her routine. >> Aurora ran over 7,000 Miles
at denali.
In her retirement she's adopted
a few new routines.
For those who can't bring an
actual sled dog home with them,
for those who can't bring an actual sled dog home with them, the park has popular puppy cam.
Actual sled dog home with them, the park has popular puppy cam. 24 hours a day, visitors can log
on and see what the new gang is
up to, each one has his or her
own fans.
Up to, each one has his or her own fans. I may be partial to pi袮ta.
Own fans. I may be partial to pi袮ta. >> Utah dog whisperer.
You got him pretty comfortable
there.
>> But, you know what they say,
kids grow up so fast.
Before long, these dogs will
join their relatives out on the
before long, these dogs will join their relatives out on the trail, carry gearing and
carrying on a tradition more
than a century old.
>> Can I use a little bit of make up right now. >> You look a little --
right here.
>> Osgood: Riccie Johnson of our "Sunday morning" family has had more face time with familiar
faces than anyone we know.
Had more face time with familiar faces than anyone we know. Mo rocca can tell us all about
her life long brush with fame.
>> First thing we do is take off
our glasses, remember?
>> Yes.
Our glasses, remember? >> Yes. >> It's "Sunday morning" on CBS.
But before our beloved host,
>> it's "Sunday morning" on CBS. But before our beloved host, Charles osgood, greets the
but before our beloved host, Charles osgood, greets the millions of you out there --
>> close your eyes.
Millions of you out there -- >> close your eyes. >> He spends time with this
woman.
Make up artist riccie Johnson.
Woman. Make up artist riccie Johnson. >> She's the last person you're
make up artist riccie Johnson. >> She's the last person you're chatting with before going on
>> she's the last person you're chatting with before going on air.
Chatting with before going on air. >> Yes.
Air. >> Yes. We're chatting about any number
>> yes. We're chatting about any number of thing.
>> For our 20 years our beloved
riccie has been making up
>> for our 20 years our beloved riccie has been making up Charlie.
Riccie has been making up Charlie. I'm guessing your rapport
relaxes you with her?
>> Absolutely.
Relaxes you with her? >> Absolutely. >> But riccie's career with CBS
>> absolutely. >> But riccie's career with CBS long predates "Sunday morning."
Among the other tight ans she's
touched up.
>> I'm morley safer.
Touched up. >> I'm morley safer. >> I'm ed Bradley.
>> I'm Harry reasonen.
>> That pioneer of television
news broadcasting -- what was
>> that pioneer of television news broadcasting -- what was Edward r.Murrow like?
News broadcasting -- what was Edward r.Murrow like? >> He was busy smoking and
working and writing, not
>> he was busy smoking and working and writing, not sociable, I mean, to me.
Working and writing, not sociable, I mean, to me. >> After almost 65 years, yes,
65 years at work, riccie Johnson
>> after almost 65 years, yes, 65 years at work, riccie Johnson is a master at reading the room.
>> Most of the time we talk.
Is a master at reading the room. >> Most of the time we talk. We talk about, you know, what
>> most of the time we talk. We talk about, you know, what movie did you see or have you
we talk about, you know, what movie did you see or have you been to the theater.
Movie did you see or have you been to the theater. How's the family.
Been to the theater. How's the family. We do chat.
But sometimes Charlie will come
we do chat. But sometimes Charlie will come in and I can tell from the look
but sometimes Charlie will come in and I can tell from the look on his face that some is going
on and I can't I don't say
anything.
On and I can't I don't say anything. Give him a chance to work it
out.
>> Make up may in fact be
superficial but its impact is
>> make up may in fact be superficial but its impact is deep.
Superficial but its impact is deep. Richard Nixon's biggest mistake
after Watergate?
Probably his decision not to
wear make up in his presidential
probably his decision not to wear make up in his presidential debate with John f. Kennedy.
Wear make up in his presidential debate with John f. Kennedy. Decision which made him look
sweaty and nervous.
>> Make up shows up in history
books when it comes to that 1960
>> make up shows up in history books when it comes to that 1960 election.
Books when it comes to that 1960 election. You made up Richard Nixon when?
Election. You made up Richard Nixon when? >> After he left office.
I made him up twice actually.
He was very gracious and
certainly took make up.
>> This time, I'm accepting make
up.
>> Absolutely.
Up. >> Absolutely. >> Florence riccobono began
>> absolutely. >> Florence riccobono began working in TV right around when
TV began.
Working in TV right around when TV began. An art school graduate and
aspiring actress, riccie, she
an art school graduate and aspiring actress, riccie, she got the nickname in college, got
her start doing make up of sid
Caesar's "your show of shows"
and "the Milton berle show."
And a show like that was watched
by millions of people.
Did you think, I got to get this
right, because about a third of
did you think, I got to get this right, because about a third of the country is going to be
watching this?
The country is going to be watching this? >> I really never thought about
it.
It was my job.
It. It was my job. I did the best I knew how to do.
But I never really thought about
the historical significant of
but I never really thought about the historical significant of it.
The historical significant of it. It was just like something you
did.
>> She liked doing it so much
that even after marrying and
>> she liked doing it so much that even after marrying and having seven children she kept
on working.
Having seven children she kept on working. Muhammad Ali?
On working. Muhammad Ali? >> Next to Bella abzug.
Next to marv Albert.
>> Riccie keeps track of all the
next to marv Albert. >> Riccie keeps track of all the news maker she's made over in a
>> riccie keeps track of all the news maker she's made over in a spiral notebook.
News maker she's made over in a spiral notebook. >> I can just go anywhere
randomly I'm on m I put my
finger there's John mcenroe.
Randomly I'm on m I put my finger there's John mcenroe. What about Margaret mead.
Finger there's John mcenroe. What about Margaret mead. >> She was lovely.
>> Mickey mantle.
>> Yeah.
>> The monkees.
The mcguire sisters, all of
>> the monkees. The mcguire sisters, all of them?
>> Yeah.
Them? >> Yeah. Dudley Moore.
>> Then there are those four
guys from england, the ones who
>> then there are those four guys from england, the ones who in 196 played the ed Sullivan
show.
In 196 played the ed Sullivan show. Where riccie worked at the time.
Show. Where riccie worked at the time. >> I heard all this din outside.
Say looked out the window I saw
all these young people.
I talked to the doorman.
All these young people. I talked to the doorman. He said, some group from
england.
I said, wow, this looks serious.
England. I said, wow, this looks serious. I called home and I said to my
husband, I can get the children
in to a dress rehearsal.
Husband, I can get the children in to a dress rehearsal. The children didn't want to
come.
Of course now they're very sorry
about that.
>> Riccie knew just what those
pop up starts needed to pop on
>> riccie knew just what those pop up starts needed to pop on TV during that now legendary
broadcast.
>> I used a little eye liner.
Broadcast. >> I used a little eye liner. >> Why did you use eye liner?
>> Because it was black and
>> why did you use eye liner? >> Because it was black and white television.
They were a music group.
White television. They were a music group. You want to see their eyes.
You want to see their mouth.
That's what's important.
I met Paul McCartney, maybe
that's what's important. I met Paul McCartney, maybe eight years ago.
I told him who I was.
Eight years ago. I told him who I was. He said, you used pancake make
up and eye liner.
When we asked you about the eye
liner, you said, it will be
when we asked you about the eye liner, you said, it will be fine.
Liner, you said, it will be fine. >> And it was.
Fine. >> And it was. >> It was.
>> Over the decades, riccie has
>> it was. >> Over the decades, riccie has drawn close to more than a few
>> over the decades, riccie has drawn close to more than a few of her colleagues here.
Drawn close to more than a few of her colleagues here. Friendships that mattered dearly
after her husband, Jay, passed
friendships that mattered dearly after her husband, Jay, passed away in 1999.
After her husband, Jay, passed away in 1999. >> I was devastated.
Away in 1999. >> I was devastated. I thought maybe I shouldn't go
back to work.
I didn't know how I could.
Back to work. I didn't know how I could. And Mike Wallace came to the
funeral home.
And Mike took me by the hands
and he looked me in the eyes he
and Mike took me by the hands and he looked me in the eyes he said, you're coming back to
work.
Said, you're coming back to work. I said, I don't know what I'm
doing.
He said, you are coming back to
work.
So he gave me courage, you know.
Work. So he gave me courage, you know. >> I don't do this with my
so he gave me courage, you know. >> I don't do this with my glasses on, can I?
>> No.
Glasses on, can I? >> No. >> It wouldn't be right to end
>> no. >> It wouldn't be right to end this tribute without pointing
>> it wouldn't be right to end this tribute without pointing out that riccie Johnson, the
woman who has made thousands of
other people look good, looks
pretty damn great herself.
Other people look good, looks pretty damn great herself. Are you ever going to retire?
Pretty damn great herself. Are you ever going to retire? >> I don't know, mo.
I love what I do.
I work with the top people in
the industry.
And they still like what I do.
The industry. And they still like what I do. So should I just sit here and
and they still like what I do. So should I just sit here and read a book?
>> Osgood: Now toe John dickerson in Washington for look at what's ahead on "face the
nation."
At what's ahead on "face the nation." Godmother, John.
Nation." Godmother, John. >> Dickerson: Good morning,
godmother, John. >> Dickerson: Good morning, Charles.
We'll have the latest than
explosion overnight in New York.
A conversation with senator Tim
kaine, trump campaign manager
a conversation with senator Tim kaine, trump campaign manager also and sit down with John
Lewis at the African American
museum.
>> Osgood: Thank you, John.
Museum. >> Osgood: Thank you, John. Next week here on "Sunday
>> osgood: Thank you, John. Next week here on "Sunday morning" --
>> osgood: We you this "Sunday morning" in Wisconsin along the banks.
Morning" in Wisconsin along the banks. Of the plover river.
I'm Charles osgood. Please join us again next "Sunday morning."
Until then and beyond then I'll
see you on the radio.