THE DISSIDENTS – 54A
翻译：cupric｜校对：emfrosztovis
你来试试
Give it a try.
不用等我 拍手吧
Well, you don't need me. Clap.
达尼埃尔·于伊耶 和 让–马里·斯特劳布在《阶级关系》片场
1983年3月1日 排练 (西柏林)
「晚上好 罗斯曼先生」
Good evening, Mr. Rossmann,
「是我，鲁滨逊」
it's me, Robinson.
「您可是变了样了！」
But you have changed!
「是的，我过得很好」
Yes, it's going well for me.
「可是您喝醉了」
But you drink.
「这只是在路上的时候」
It is only to fortify myself
「为了提神喝的」
when I am on the road.
- 是的 然后你要说... - 「我再也不想纠正您了」
Yes, then comes... "I no longer want to better you."
我改过了 这句话要立刻说
I changed that. The next sentence comes right there,
不带停顿 而且语气要更幽默
there's no pause. And try to make it more amusing.
「我再也不想纠正您了」
"I no longer want to better you."
不要用控诉的语气
Not in such an accusing tone.
「可是您喝醉了」 说得更快 连起来说
"But you drink." And quicker. One right after the other.
「晚上好 罗斯曼先生」
Good evening, Mr. Rossmann,
- 「是我，鲁滨逊」 - 「您可是变了样了！」
it's me, Robinson. - But you have changed!
- 「是的，我过得很好」 - 「可是您喝醉了」
- Yes, it's going well for me. - But you drink.
「这只是在路上的时候为了提神喝的」
It is only to fortify myself when I am on the road.
「我再也不想纠正您了」
I no longer want to better you.
不错 我还想到
Good. Then I was thinking
你左手边可以放个烟灰缸或者篮子
that you would have an ashtray on your left, or a basket,
你可以把剩下的苹果扔进去
and that you'd throw the rest of the apple in it.
但是当然 一开始你要吃一些
But of course in the beginning you eat some
这样就不会剩得太多
so that there isn't much left over.
嗯 再来
So, again.
「可是您喝醉了」 有点奇怪 你不觉得吗
Something is wrong with "But you drink." Don't you think?
我强调了「喝醉」...
I emphasize "drink" and...
「可是您喝醉了」
"But you drink."
- 好难啊 - 要呈现幽默的效果
- That's difficult. - It's more of an amusing realization
而不是控诉
than an accusation.
他认为这是在控诉
He takes it as an accusation,
但我并不觉得这是控诉
but I wouldn't say it like one.
我们再来一遍
Let's do it again.
「晚上好 罗斯曼先生」
「是我，鲁滨逊」
「您可是变了样了！」
「是的，我过得很好」
「可是您喝醉了」
「这只是在路上的时候」
「为了提神喝的」
「我再也不想纠正您了」
结尾那句不错
That was good at the end.
要开始... 再来一次
It's beginning to... Again.
要开始严肃起来了
This is where things are becoming serious.
现在你要理解 Christian 那两个「可是」是什么意思
Now you have to know what Christian is going to do with his two "buts".
Christian Heinisch 饰演卡尔·罗斯曼
以及要不要区分这两个「可是」
If one should vary them or not.
「您可是变了样了！」
"But you have changed!"
「可是您喝醉了」
"But you drink."
第一个要微微停顿 第二个就不用 这样就足够...
One is with a pause, the other isn't. That's enough for them to be...
有点区分
varied a little.
我觉得...
And I would really...
就好像他刚从天上掉下来 简单来说....
It's like he's fallen from the sky, and that's simply...
你自从吵架后就没见过他
You haven't seen him since you both had the fight,
突然间他就站在那儿了
and suddenly he's standing there.
你完全不惊讶 但你还是觉得有点好笑
You're not at all surprised but you're still slightly amused.
你完全不知道接下来要发生什么
You have no idea what's going to happen later on.
「可是」的发音可以被「喝醉」吞掉一点
I'd let "but" get swallowed up by "drink".
「可是您喝醉了 可是您喝醉了」
「晚上好 罗斯曼先生」
「是我，鲁滨逊」
「您可是变了样了！」
「是的，我过得很好」
「可是您喝醉了」
「这只是在路上的时候为了提神喝的」
「我再也不想纠正您了」
是的 就这样 好多了
Yes, like that. That's better.
像意大利人说的那样
And as the Italians say,
「用余光一瞥」
"With the tail of your eye",
你看得见他 但并不是看着他
you see him, but you're not looking at him.
现在做关门的动作
And now the closing action.
「晚上好 罗斯曼先生」
「是我，鲁滨逊」
「您可是变了样了！」
「是的，我过得很好」
「可是您喝醉了」
「这只是在路上的时候为了提神喝的」
「我再也不想纠正您了」
不错 很到位了
Yes, okay. We've got that now.
你要表现得更快乐
Now make it more joyful for me.
他应该抱着胳膊吗？
Is it normal that he's crossing his arms?
他吃苹果的时候没有抱着胳膊
His arms weren't crossed when he was eating the apple.
整体上来说很滑稽了 也有很多动作
As a whole it was funny this time, and had lots of movement,
不过「提神」可以离得更近...
but "fortify" can be even closer...
你要明白 你要试图缩短先前的停顿
You can tell that you're struggling to shorten the old pause,
同时又不要让句子加速
without giving the sentence any momentum.
要更加...
It has to be more...
几乎不是停顿而是一个强制的格律停顿
Almost as if there isn't a pause anymore, just a hard break.
格律停顿 [Zäsur/caesura]： 似为字面意思，即某些古代诗歌格律中某一音节位置上要求的停顿。 正如诗歌分行处在实际朗读时不一定停顿一样，这些格律停顿起到的更多是结构作用
后面的第二个句子更像是...
Then the second sentence has more the character of...
不知道这个怎么说 就是「法国序曲」
I don't know what you call that. In French it's "overture".
法国序曲 [französische Ouvertüre]： 一种巴洛克音乐风格，气势磅礴，多使用附点节奏。英文字幕疑为错译
再来
Again.
- 足够了 现在你明白了 - 是的
Enough. Now you've got the idea. - Yes.
Manfred 你呢？
And Manfred?
Manfred Blank，饰演鲁滨逊
我让结尾更夸张了一点
I exaggerated a bit at the end.
我喜欢这样
I liked that.
我喜欢这样 到时候也会变得平静的
I liked that. That will lessen.
你想再来一遍吗？
Or do you want to do it again?
没 只是想讲讲我觉得该如何演绎
No. I just wanted to show you how I had imagined it.
更像是菲舍尔–迪斯考
It was a bit like Fischer-Dieskau,
菲舍尔–迪斯考 [Fischer-Dieskau]：德国著名男中音歌唱家
在歌剧里念白而不是歌唱的时候那样
when he talks instead of sings in operas.
我们可以修改一下
We can go ahead and change.
今天练得足够吗 你想再来一遍吗？
Is that enough for today? Do you want to do it again?
- 我们可以4号再练一遍 - 什么？
- We could do it again on the 4th. - What?
- 我们也许可以4号再练一遍 - 4号？
- Maybe we could do it again on the 4th. - The 4th?
- 他不知道4号要练！ - 我从来不看日历
- He doesn't know anything about that! - I never look at the calendar.
「罗斯曼，您不想」
Rossmann, won't you
「去我们那儿看看吗」
come visit us once?
「我们 现在过得可美了，我们和布鲁娜妲住在一起」
We live with Brunelda,
「她是一位了不起的歌唱家」
a splendid singer.
「是您 邀请我」
Are you inviting me,
- 「还是德拉马什？」 - 「我」
- or Delamarche? - I am...
「以及德拉马什 我们一致邀请的」
and Delamarche. In that we are agreed.
好的
Yes.
对 Manfred 来说最困难的是 他要换个语调
The difficult thing for Manfred is that he has to change the tone.
是的 要死气沉沉的
Yes, the thing doesn't have any life in it yet.
要删掉所有正常的停顿
We have to destroy all the pauses.
停顿还是要有 但是要隐藏在底色之下...
They still have to be there but as a very deep... undertone. We have to...
他需要念出文本
He'll need to have a chance to speak the text.
目前为止他还没有... 独自试过
He hasn't done that yet... alone.
我们要绷紧语调 直到它断裂
We have to pull on it until it snaps. Again.
「罗斯曼，您不想」
Rossmann, won't you
「去我们那儿看看吗」
come visit us once?
「我们现在过得可美了」
We live with Brunelda, a splendid singer.
「我们和布鲁娜妲住在一起，她是一位了不起的歌唱家」
「是您 邀请我」
Are you inviting me,
- 「还是德拉马什？」 - 「我」
- or Delamarche? - I am...
「以及德拉马什 我们一致邀请的」
and Delamarche. In that we are agreed.
再来
Again.
Manfred 你说完「看看」之后 为什么等那么久
Why do you wait so long, Manfred, after "come"?
虽然卡夫卡用的是逗号
I'd like to feel the colon there,
但是这里要有冒号的感觉
even though Kafka used a comma.
「那我就告诉您，并请您转告德拉马什」
Then I say to you, and ask you to communicate to Delamarche:
「我们的那次告别」
our parting was final.
「如果这件事本身还不够清楚的话」
「已成终局」
「你们两个人」
You two...
「给我带来的痛苦 比谁都多」
have done me more hurt than anyone.
谢谢你
Thanks.
再来一遍吗？还不错
Do it again? It's good.
只差一些发音练习了 剩下的...
It's just a matter of a few lip exercises, the rest...
是的 我也注意到了
Yes, I noticed that.
不过「痛苦」这个词 有些...
But that "hurt", that was...
真是直击灵魂
It hit home somehow.
很感人 却又不做作
It was moving, without being whiny.
「那我就告诉您，并请您转告德拉马什」
Then let me tell you, and ask you to communicate to Delamarche:
「我们的那次告别」
our parting,
「如果这件事本身还不够清楚的话」
was final.
「已成终局」
「你们两个人」
You two...
「给我带来的痛苦」
have done me more hurt
「比谁都多」
than anyone.
接近成功了
Almost there.
「那我就告诉您，并请您转告德拉马什」
「我们的那次告别」
「如果这件事本身还不够清楚的话」
「已成终局」
「你们两个人」
「给我带来的痛苦」
「比谁都多」
好的 还不错
Okay. That's good.
要注意结尾
Just be careful at the end.
那段著名的结局... 要有些张力
The famous coda... So there will be some tension.
有些地方真的很不错
Something about that was quite good.
最后一遍
One last time.
「我们是 您的伙伴呀」
But we are your comrades.
「您现在有了 这么一个美差事」
And you have such a fine position here.
「可以接济我一点钱吗？」
Could you let me have some money?
「大概是德拉马什」
You have received from Delamarche the charge of bringing back money.
「给您任务来带钱回去的」
「好，我给您钱」
I will give you money...
「但必须有个条件」
but only on the condition...
「就是您立即离开这里并且再也不」
that you leave immediately and never again...
「来这里找我」
visit me here.
「我在这里工作，没有时间 接待客人」
I'm in service here and I have no time...
for visitors.
「以这个条件为前提您想还要钱吗？」
Do you want money on this condition?
「愿意还是不愿意？」
Yes or no?
我忘完了
I forgot everything.
这种飘飘然 是因为你进入状态了
That's just the usual giddiness that one feels when it starts to sink in.
就像是在走钢丝 尽管你暂时不知道发挥如何
You're a bit like the tight-rope walker, who doesn't know what he's doing yet,
- 但仍然表现很好 - 你能再说一遍吗？
- but it was nevertheless a good run. - Can you repeat that?
「来这里找我」
"Visit me here."
- 这样行 吗？ - 可以
- Was that alright? - Yes.
「来这里找我」
"Visit me here."
三个断开的词 不要停顿 要断开
Three words with breaks. No pauses, just breaks.
如果你做不到
If you can't do it,
可以不管这句 但是我想让你试试
we'll leave it out, but I want you to try.
「来这里找我」 对吗？
"To visit me here." Right?
「来这里找我」
要断开 不是「来-这里-找我」
With breaks. Not "visit-me-here."
「来 这里 找我」
「罗斯曼」
Rossmann,
「我很不舒服」
I feel very sick.
不过要像这样...
But like this...
笨拙地抓住这个东西
Grab the thing clumsily like this,
- 是的 一开始就要这样
at first. Yes, I'd start like this.
不 要几乎抱住它 不 这里
No, almost hug it. No, here.
对 对
然后滑下去
Then slide down.
你要边看他边说「罗斯曼 罗斯曼」
And you're looking at him like this: "Rossmann. Rossmann".
说完这句话之后...
Then at the end of the sentence...
不要先解释为什么倒地 先往下滑再解释
The sentence doesn't explain the sliding down. The sentence comes later.
「罗斯曼」
「我很不舒服」
好的 咱们就这样演
Yes. Then we'll do it like that.
我觉得如果你抓得高一点更好
And I think it's even better for you if it's higher.
- 你一开始在哪？ - 大概在这
- Where were you? - About here.
不... 对 你一开始在那 从这开始试试
No... Yes, you were there. Try it from here.
抱得要更紧一点
Hug the thing even more.
如果可以的话 你就真的去抱它 像这样
A real hug if it's possible. A bit like this.
如果行的话 你不一定非要 不过...
If it's possible. You don't have to, but...
「罗斯曼」
Rossmann,
「我很不舒服」
I feel very sick.
- 「见鬼！」 - 总之是个折中的办法
- What the devil! - But somehow a compromise.
下一个分镜你要抓住他
In the next shot you grab him.
我们得...
We have to...
在这里做可能意义不大 但我们还是要有个大致的样子
There's not much point in doing it here, but we still have to get an idea.
下一镜的时候你如何抓他？
And how do you grab him in the next shot?
我觉得可以这样子
I was thinking something like this.
- 或者这样 - 他也可以抓他的胳膊
- Or like this. - He could also grab his arms.
他抓不到那里
He won't be able to.
他能抓到 如果这样抓的话
Yes he can, if he does it like this.
大概只能由 Manfred 瘫倒的姿势决定...
It also just depends on how Manfred lands...
「见鬼！」
不如之前练得好了
That wasn't as good as before.
- 不知道为什么 - 我动得太早了
- I don't know why. - I was too early.
你比我更清楚
You know better than I.
嗯 对了 Manfred
Yes, and Manfred,
我离这么近观看 才意识到
I realized something as I was watching you so closely.
不要看着他说「罗斯曼」
I wouldn't look at him when I say "Rossmann".
如果你按照商量好的断句说「罗斯曼」
It's more amusing if you say "Rossmann", the way we separated it,
同时看都不看他一眼 会更好笑
and you don't even look at him.
「罗斯曼」
好像罗斯曼就是台阶一样
As if Rossmann were the stairs.
「罗斯曼」
「我很不舒服」
好一些了！
That's better!
- 再来一遍 - 我要冲他弯腰吗？
- Do it again. - Should I bend down over him?
- 什么？ - 我走过去然后说「见鬼！」
- What? - I walk over and say "What the devil!",
然后我再弯下腰
and then I bend down.
- 但是如果他走太快... - 我也想到一个还没解决的问题
- But if he goes to him so quickly... - I also have a problem I've yet to solve.
先练着 我们会逐渐改进的
Do it, and we'll improve it gradually.
「见鬼！」
What the devil!
我说完之后走到他旁边 对吧？
I would go over to him after saying it, right?
对 你要做和 Manfred 相反的事情
Yes. Then it's the opposite of what Manfred does.
「见鬼！」
嗯 这样好多了
Yes, that's much better.
我回答不了你的问题 因为我还没解决我的问题
I can't even answer your question, because I have yet to solve my problem.
我觉得他得站在那
I think he has to stay there.
对 然后你站在他旁边
Yes, then you stand next to him,
我们会拍到你的靴子 鞋子和腿
and then we'll see your boots, your shoes, your legs.
就是这样 然后你要听他讲话
That's it. And you listen to his speech.
- 他会对你小小演讲一番 - 我离他多近比较好？
- He has a little speech for you. - How close to him should I be?
离近点 就像一个...
Close. Like someone who...
不要像抓稳他一样那么近 要像...
Not as close as someone who's already got a hold of him, but rather...
他叫什么？那个决定... 的人... 还说...
What's his name? The one who decides to... who says...
说什么来着
Where is that?
「你为何要...」
"Why have you..."
《赤胆屠龙》里那个角色叫什么？
What's his name, the one in "Rio Bravo"?
那个一直不想参与的男孩？
That boy who never wants to get involved?
那个演员叫 Ricky Nelson
Ricky Nelson, that's the actor's name.
别的都无所谓 主要是...
That has nothing to do with us. Except that...
John Wayne 抓住了他 突然他开枪了
John Wayne catches him... Suddenly he shoots,
Wayne 问他为什么要参与 他说
and Wayne asks him why he got involved. He says,
「我想要...
"I wanted to take a...
看得更近些」
a closer look."
为了近距离观察
To see it up close.
你走过去 然后近距离观察那个坐着的人 就是这样
You go over there and get a closer look at the man sitting there. That's all.
「见鬼！」
- 嗯 - 对 真好
- Yes. - Yes, that's good.
我记得一开始大概在哪里
But I know where it comes from, somewhat.
你和刚才的位置...
You don't have the same...
- 不太一样了 - 结束的位置还是开始的位置？
- Position. - Exit position or starting position...
你回到一大段对话那个位置
Go stand where you were for the long text.
- 我想起来了 - 就是进行那段不舒服对话的位置
- Now I remember. - Where you were for the uncomfortable text.
- 就这样 - 好 从这开始
- Like that. - Okay, start like that.
整个走位都和之前不同了
It'll be totally different now.
「见鬼！」
现在你只站起来
Now just the standing up.
走过来 这样我就能看到
Walk in, so I can see it.
「鲁滨逊 如果您想让我来照顾您」
Robinson, if you want me to take care of you, then make an effort.
「您可得自己使劲」
- 你之前没有离那么远... - 只是为了让我看得更清楚
- You weren't that far along... - This is just so I can see it.
注意电线
Be careful with the cables.
肯定没问题的
That won't be a problem.
肯定没问题 因为他...
That won't be a problem because he...
我只是想留个印象 足够了 谢谢
I just wanted to get an impression. That's enough, thanks.
「您真是个好孩子」
You are really a good boy.
「我愿意做所有，您觉得对的事」
I will do everything you consider right...
「请你在这里 替代我一小会儿」
You must please replace me here a while.
别忘记按按钮
Don't forget to push the button.
- 电梯门关上我才能按 - 对 但你得先准备好
- I can't push it until the door shuts. - Yes, but you have to be prepared.
你在那里有点胆怯
You're a bit timid in there.
- 你的手最好是能... - 你...
- It's better if you have your hand... - You're...
你需要像这样子...
You're still a bit like this...
我的意思不是说要芭蕾
By that, I don't mean ballet.
你要迈出一步
You have to take a step,
同时脑子想着按按钮
and be thinking about the button,
而且...
and...
你可以把手的位置放好 直到门...
You can already have your hand ready, like this, until the door...
这样会好很多 我们不会拍到你这样...
That would be better anyway. We wouldn't have you like this...
落幅的时候你就是这样的
Then the last image of you is like this.
唯一的问题就是 你如何...
The only question is how you...
你怎么距离 Manfred 稍远 又不...
how you separate yourself from Manfred a little, but not...
但我还没太想清楚
But I can't see that so clearly.
「您真是个好孩子」
You are really a good boy.
「我愿意做所有，您觉得对的事」
I will do everything you consider right...
「请你在这里 替代我一小会儿」
You must please replace me here a while.
1983年3月3日 排练（西柏林）
March 3, 1983 Rehearsals (West Berlin)
「他好像在耍脾气」
He seems to be moody.
看 这样是对的 你走得太早了
See, that was right. Over there, it was too early.
太早了...
Too early...
- 对 他起身的时候 - 嗯
- Okay, so when he gets up. - Yes.
「他好像在耍脾气」
He seems to be moody.
- 他起身晚了 - 是的
- That was too late. - Yes.
起晚了 但是你懂了 不用再练一遍 站过去吧
It was late, but now you know. We don't have to do it again. Stay there.
- 还是说你想... - 不
- Or do you want... - No.
好 站在中间的位置
Okay, somewhere in between.
下一句台词是什么？
So, what's the next line?
「我没有耍脾气」
"I am not moody..."
你得想好你在那里的动作
You have to see what you do there.
他会拎上箱子 你要决定眼睛看不看着他
He'll take it, and you have to see whether you follow him with your eyes or not.
- 所以 我们只会看见他的脚 - 是的 但对他来说很重要
- So we only see his feet. - Yes, but it's important for him.
所以他要在那做什么？
So, what does he do there?
谁 他吗？他要坐下
Who? Him? He sits down.
- 我们要拍出过程吗？ - 不
- Will we be able to see that? - No.
他们找到他的时候 他就坐下
When they find him he sits down.
另一个人说话的时候 他有足够时间坐好
While the other is speaking, he has enough time to sit down.
对 但我们也许可以拍他坐下
Yes, but maybe we could see him sit down.
取决于 从一开始的距离...
That depends on the distance... From the beginning.
我又不太确定了
I'm unsure again.
拍手吧 Danièle
Clap, Danièle.
「我没有耍脾气」
I am not moody,...
- 对 - 他一说完我就要拎箱子吗？
- Yes. - Do I pick it up after his line?
是啊... 我不知道
Yeah... I don't know.
他边说我边拎 可以吗？
I'll do it while he's talking, okay?
- 你可以试试... - 他的台词更长了 对吧？
- You can try... - What he says is longer now, right?
你可以试试 在他说「我没有耍脾气」的时候拎箱子
You can try to do it as he says, "I am not moody".
咱们看看他这样演合不合适
We'll see if it bothers him or not.
好 就这样吧
Yes, do it like that.
「我没有耍脾气」
I am not moody,
「但是我要在酒店里过夜」
but I will spend the night at the hotel
「不去巴特福德了」
and am not going to Butterford.
「请你们快吃，我需要把篮子还回去」
Eat quickly, I have to give back the basket.
可以再早一些
It can be even sooner.
- 那你就这样做 - 好
- Then I'll have you do it that way. - Yes.
无论如何 Christian 说「请你们快吃」的时候 他们就已经...
Anyway, when Christian says, "Eat quickly", they're already...
另外 如果你等太久会显得有点傻
Besides, it's a bit stupid if you wait too long.
先前的犹豫是好的 但这样就太过了
A hesitation before is good, but that was too much.
再来 但走得快些
Again, but come in a bit earlier.
可能就像你第一次的时候那样
That will probably be something like how you did it the first time.
你的想法没错
You were right about that.
- 也没那么难 - 他一开始...
- Not so difficult. - Right after he...
他一开始说话我就拎箱子 还是？
Right after he starts talking I pick it up, or what?
- 是的 一说话就拎 - 好
- Yes, yes. Right after. - Yeah?
你之前是不是站得更近？
Weren't you closer?
- 我吗？不 只是... - 不 不
- Me? No, I just... - No, no.
不 这样是对的
No. That's right.
「我没有耍脾气」
「但是我要在酒店里过夜」
「不去巴特福德了」
「请你们快吃，我需要把篮子还回去」
- 不错嘛 - 还行
- That's not bad. - It's okay.
我觉得要早一店开始
I'd start just a 'bat' sooner.
- 「一点」 - 我说什么？ - 你说「一店」
- A 'bit'. - What did I say? - 'Bat'.
再来
Again.
「我没有耍脾气」
「但是我要在酒店里过夜」
「不去巴特福德了」
「请你们快吃，我需要把篮子还回去」
对 大概就这样
Yeah, about like that.
- 我们还能... - 你还是对那句话很着迷
- We can still... - You're still fascinated with that sentence.
- 我会说清楚「我」 - 最后再练一遍
- I start on "I am". - Do it one last time.
- 最后再练一遍 动得早一点 - 可以
- Try it earlier one last time. - Alright.
- 我觉得你这样做就挺好 - 不
- I think it's better the way you do it. - No.
这是唯一一处... 你不够... 应该...
That's the only thing... you don't have enough... It has to be...
快一些
Faster.
- 那个... - 快点？
- The... - Faster?
- 整个... - 整段对话
- The whole... - The whole text.
- 整段对话？ - 是的 是的
- The whole text? - Yes, yes.
加一点速
Speed it up a bit.
我确实希望这段慢一点
I mean, I want to have it that way. I want it to be slow,
但是现在有点太慢了
but it's a bit too much.
来吧 开始
Alright, let's go.
「你看，鲁滨逊」
You see, Robinson,
「我们对他信任」
we gave him our trust...
「有加，一整天拉着他」
A whole day...
「和我们一起走，至少因此浪费了半天的功夫」
we dragged him with us.
「而现在 因为酒店里有谁诱惑了他」
And now, because someone down at the hotel lured him on,
「他要告辞了，干脆就告辞了」
he simply takes his leave.
「但因为他是个虚伪的德国人」
But because he is a deceitful German...
「他又不直接这样做」
he doesn't do this openly...
「而是 找箱子的事作为借口」
but looks for the pretext of the suitcase.
- 很好 - 但是「而是」不太对
- Good. - But the "but" was wrong.
是的 错了两处
Yes. Two things were wrong.
「而现在，因为酒店里有谁诱惑了他」
是的 你在「现在」后面停顿了
Exactly. You took a pause after "now".
对 「而现在，因为酒店里有谁诱惑了他」
还有 「他又不直接这样做，而是」
And, "he doesn't do this openly, but".
要有威胁的口气 「他又不直接这样做，而是」
More threateningly. "he doesn't do this openly, but".
「他又不直接这样做，而是」
「找箱子的事作为借口」
「一切忍耐都是有限度的」
All patience has an end.
对
Yes.
- 他有点晚了 - 现在就要... 好
- He's a little late. - Now we can... yes.
我已经完全明白了
Now I've taken it apart.
是的 最好一直这样子
Exactly, that's always better.
「一切忍耐都是有限度的」
All patience has an end.
对 我说岔了
Yeah, I changed that.
好的 我再来一遍
Okay, I'll do it again.
「一切忍耐都是有限度的」
瓶子一开始放在哪？
Where is the bottle in the beginning?
- 在我手里 - 好的 再来
- In my hand. - Okay, again.
「一切忍耐都是有限度的」
All patience has an end.
咱们在哪切镜头？
Where do we make the cut?
在噪音的位置吗？
On the noise?
不 不
No, no.
我会在他手动的时候剪辑
I'll cut on his hand movement.
我不知道 我可能会稍微增强... 但是我觉得手部运动...
I don't know, I'd gain a bit... But on the hand movement, I think...
对我来说在那一刻切走还不够
It wouldn't be enough for me to cut it right on the sound.
这不重要 这就叫暴力
That doesn't matter. That's the violence.
我还是没想好要怎么办
I still can't say how it will be yet.
是的 再来
Yes, again.
「一切忍耐都是有限度的」
很不错
That's good.
再演一遍 因为他问了我个问题
Do that one more time for me, because he asked me a question.
「一切忍耐都是有限度的」
All patience has an end.
在他碰到地面之后剪辑 会好得多
It's much better after he touches the floor.
- 好的 - 这就算是我们的「厨房」
- Yes. - Okay, that's our "kitchen" so to speak.
他这样没有什么意义
It doesn't make any sense to see him like that.
咱们得想一个更准确的方案
We have to find a precise solution.
或者不让瓶子入画？
Or else the bottle isn't in the picture?
不行 不然我就得在那一帧一帧一帧地监督
No, or else I'll be there... A frame, a frame, a frame...
还有剪辑的时候 它和音乐
Where it begins exactly, during editing,
音乐：意义不详
什么时候进入 准备过程我们是不放进去的
with the music. We don't take your preparations.
一定要...
One has to...
- 就是在声音和剪辑上… - 一定要坚决
- work on the sound, the cuts. - To be deliberate.
到了35毫米胶片上 她最后总是切掉半帧 然后把那帧留在镜头里
She always ends up cutting half a frame in 35 mm and leaves the frame in the shot.
切掉半帧 [schneidet sie mal(?) halbes Feld]：意义不详
再来
Again.
「一切忍耐都是有限度的」
很好
Very good.
你还记不记得我们怎么...
Can you remember how we...
我记得我介绍过他
I think I introduced him.
你在等着吗？
And you waited?
这一段换位我心里有数
I have the exchange.
亲爱的先生们 所以我把它都写下来了
My dear gentlemen, that is why I write it down.
「服务员拎上篮子」
"Waiter takes the basket."
- 然后我再微微鞠躬 - 服务员在哪？
- And then I bow a little. - Where is the waiter?
很对
Exactly.
是的 不用担心 这里会剪掉 然后就近距离只拍你
Yes. Don't worry, there's a cut and then we only see you alone, close up.
然后... 就继续
Then... and so on.
停在拎上篮子的动作
It stops with the gesture of the taking of the basket.
所以...
So...
一直拍你们两个 直到他拎篮子 然后他的点位就空了 他要过来
Until then it's both of you. Then his spot is empty and he comes back,
在这里交换篮子 像一出小小的戏剧一样
and there is the exchange. It's a little theatre piece.
交换好篮子 然后
The exchange of the basket and then,
切到你的那个动作
cut to you in that movement.
不过那就是新的一条了
But then it's a new take.
我不像显得做作 但有点像...
I don't want to be pretentious but it's a bit...
就像《黄金马车》...
like "Carrosse d'or"...
《黄金马车》[Le carrosse d』or, 1952]：让·雷诺阿的电影
「我可没想过这样」
Wouldn't think of it. I am glad to...
「我很高兴」
「我要离开，我不想和你们当中的任何人」
leave and want to have no more to...
「继续打交道了」
do with either of you.
「厨师长夫人」
The Head Cook says to tell you that she urgently needs the basket she lent you.
「要我告诉您，那个借给您的」
「稻草篮子 她急着要用」
「就在这里」
Here it is.
「厨师长夫人还问您」
Then the Head Cook says to ask you if you maybe don't want...
「您是否考虑过，或许愿意」
「您是否考虑过，是否或许愿意在酒店里过夜」
to spend the night at the hotel after all.
「另外两位先生也欢迎过来」
「如果您愿意带他们去的话」
「今晚还暖和，可是睡在这里坡地上」
The night is warm...
「绝不是没有危险」
"it is not without danger to sleep here..."
「今晚还暖和」
The night is warm but it is not
「可是睡在这里坡地上绝不是没有危险」
without danger to sleep here on the slope. There are often snakes.
「经常有蛇出现」
是「这里经常有蛇」
"One often finds snakes."
不过不用担心 那些是下一条的内容 再来
But don't worry, we'll do that in a new take. Again.
篮子的交换还不够有戏剧性
The exchange was not theatrical enough.
你们要从对的位置开始交换篮子
You have to do the exchange starting from the right position,
所以之后你在... 然后鞠躬...
so that afterward you are... and a bow...
- 要不你就站在他前面 - 不行 我一直站在这里
- Or you'll be in front of him. - That won't work. I'm always standing here.
- 像这样吗？ - 不 不是从这里
- Like this? - No, not from here.
那里
There.
- 那么我就不用... - 中间必须有足够的距离
- Then I don't need to... - And there has to be enough distance,
这样鞠躬就会更明显
so that the bow is more obvious.
你还要再练练 类似于「就在这里」
You'll have to practice. Something like, "Here it is."
然后镜头切走
And then cut.
这样你就不必从头开始了 我们会在下一段里完成这步
Then you won't be starting everything off. We'll do that with the next part.
这样你就不用... 去吧
And then you don't need... Go ahead.
「我可没想过这样」
Wouldn't think of it.
「我很高兴」
I am glad to leave and want to have no more to...
「我要离开，我不想和你们当中的任何人」
「继续打交道了」
do with either of you.
The Head Cook says to tell you that she urgently needs the basket she lent you.
「厨师长夫人」
「要我告诉您，那个借给您的」
「稻草篮子 她急着要用」
「就在这里」
Here it is.
「我可没想过这样」
「我很高兴」
「我要离开，我不想和你们当中的任何人」
「继续打交道了」
「厨师长夫人」
「要我告诉您，那个借给您的」
「稻草篮子 她急着要用」
谢谢大家
Thank you.
好的 再来 拍手吧
All right. Again. Clap.
最后一个问题：Harun 坐着还是站着？
The final question is: Does Harun sit or stand?
Harun Farocki，饰演德拉马什
我们之后必须要决定一下
We'll have to decide that afterward.
「我找不到那张照片了」
I cannot find the photograph.
「什么样的照片？」
What photograph?
「我父母的照片」
The photograph of my parents.
「我们没」
We have seen
「看见过照片」
no photograph.
「罗斯曼先生，里面没有照片」
There was no photograph inside, Mr. Rossmann.
「但这不可能。它本来就放在上面」
But that is impossible, it was lying on the top.
「现在不见了」
And now it is gone.
「假如你们没有玩弄我的照片就好了」
If only you had not fooled with the photograph.
- 是「玩弄我的箱子」 - 我知道 我大意了
- "With the suitcase." - I know, I'm an ignoramus.
好的 我们再来一遍
Okay, let's do it again.
他站起来的时候 眼神要和之前不同
When he stands up, his look won't be the same.
- 他要一直坐着？ - 不 不
- He stays sitting? - No, no.
「我找不到那张照片了」
I cannot find the photograph.
「什么样的照片？」
What photograph?
「我父母的照片」
The photograph of my parents.
不错 轮到你了
Good. Now you start.
你最一开始在干什么？
What are you doing in the beginning?
我想这样坐 伸出腿来放在前面
I wanted to do it like this. With my leg out in front of me.
我之前就是这么坐着的
I was sitting like this before.
我想要... 就像完全没看到他一样
I wanted to... Like I don't see him at all.
但是之后我们没看到你挪开腿
But then we don't see you move your leg.
好吧
All right.
就是说他找不到... 行
So, he can't find... yeah.
「我找不到那张照片了」
I cannot find the photograph.
「什么样的照片？」
What photograph?
「我父母的照片」
The photograph of my parents.
「我们没 看见过照片」
We have seen no photograph.
「但这不可能。它本来就放在上面」
But that is impossible, it was lying on the top.
「现在不见了」
And now it is gone.
「假如你们没有玩弄我的箱子就好了」
If only you had not fooled with the suitcase.
「不可能搞错，箱子里没有照片」
All error is out of the question. There was no photograph.
- Manfred 漏了一句台词 - 确实是
- I'm missing one of Manfred's lines. - Exactly.
对的
Exactly.
什么？我们来分析一下
What? Let's dissect it.
Christian 的第二句话：
Christian's second sentence:
拍手！你去看...
Clap! You look at...
这样对吗 Harun 的动作？
So, is that right, what Harun is doing?
？？？
等等 先来安排 Christian 吧
Wait. Let's do Christian first.
你不要注视行李箱内部 你要...
You don't look in the suitcase now, but...
Christian 从一开始就在那 拿着雨伞
Christian is there at the beginning, with the umbrella.
好 从头开始 第一条
Okay, then at the beginning. The first take.
「我找不到那张照片了」
我说 你也可以翻开那本书找找
I said, you can look in the book, too.
- 也请把你的手放在行李箱里 - 好的
- And please leave your hands in there. - Okay.
拍手吧
Clap.
「我找不到那张照片了」
「什么样的照片？」
停 好的
再来 说「什么样的照片？」
Again. "What photograph?"
- 你还记得我的坐姿吗？ - 忘了
- Do you know how I was sitting? - No.
这样吗？
Like this?
「我找不到那张照片了」
「什么样的照片？」
再来
Again.
「什么样的照片？」
好的 就这样就好
Okay, we'll do it like that.
Christian 你的手仍然要放在里面
Christian, your hands are still in there.
你现在可以把手放在顶上了 我看见刚才你没把手放在里面
You can put your hands on top now. They weren't in there, I saw that.
你可以把手放在箱子里 有一只手也许可以放在书上
You can keep them in there. Perhaps one hand on the book.
好的 现在看他 拍手吧
Yes, now look at him. Clap.
「什么样的照片？」
「我父母的照片」
「我们没 看见过照片」
等等 有新的问题
Wait! Wait! That's new...
我们要把动作分解清楚
We have to take it all apart.
Christian 你把手从书上拿开
Christian, you take your hand away from the book,
找个更舒服的姿势放你的腿
and try to find a more comfortable position for your leg.
然后你说：「我父母的照片」
Then you say: "The photograph of my parents",
然后用锐利的目光盯他
and give him a sharp look.
是的 但我希望你能从头开始 手拿出来吧
Yes, but I'd like it from the beginning. Hands out.
拍手吧 Danièle
Clap, Danièle. Hands on the book.
手放在书上
不不不 就像那样 是的
No, no, no! Like that, yes.
好的 现在说台词 再来
Yes, now the line. Again.
我们能从头开始吗？
Can we start at the beginning?
你愿意就可以
If you'd like to.
「我父母的照片」
「我们没 看见过照片」
「罗斯曼先生，里面没有照片」
谢谢
Thank you.
在他们说话的时候 你做的那个动作
The movement you just made while they were speaking,
我希望能在你开口前做
I'd like you to do that before you speak.
因为之后镜头就不拍你了 别浪费掉 继续
Because afterward we don't see you, so it's wasted. Again.
1983年8月22日 拍摄 (哈尔堡丘陵地区)
「既然这样，我的任务就是」
In this case it is my charge...
「带您进入酒店，行李」
to conduct you to the hotel and to carry...
「帮您拿着」
your baggage.
- 好的 - 如果可以的话 「带」字的音长些
- Yes. - Hold "conduct" a little longer if you can.
- 再长一点 - 两个字母u也是
- A hair longer. - With two "U's".
- 你没动位置 对吧？ - 是的
- You didn't move, did you? - No.
在那里试试
Try it there.
别太低了 别对准下方
Not too low. Not pointing down.
是的 就像这样 对
Yes, like that. Yes.
忘了他就行 好吗？
Then forget him, okay?
- 你的鼻子不要太低 - 好的
- Don't point your nose down too far. - Okay.
不错
Good.
确保鼻子在取景框里
Make sure the nose stays in the shot.
- Louis. - 好的 先生
- Louis. - Yes, sir.
- 开拍了吗？ - 是的
- Are we filming? - Yes, yes.
一只蛾子
A moth.
Alf 录下的鸟叫非常美丽
Alf has the most beautiful bird recordings.
对的
Yes.
不对
No.
你的左手一直垂着 对吧？
Your left hand is always down, right?
- 准备好了吗 Louis？ - 好的 来吧
- Ready, Louis? - Yes, go ahead.
要强调「任务」这个词
With the emphasis on "charge".
强调「任务」这个词
Emphasis on "charge".
「既然这样，我的任务就是」
"In this case it is my charge...
「带您进入酒店，行李」
to conduct you to the hotel and to carry...
「帮您拿着」
your baggage."
「任务」对卡夫卡来说非常重要
"Charge" is very important with Kafka.
我们在等着火车离开
We're waiting for the train to pass.
- 开始吧 Louis！ - 不 不
- Go ahead, Louis! - No, no.
- 来吧 Louis！ - 我们好了
- Go ahead, Louis! - We can go.
第139镜 第1遍
139, the first.
「既然这样，我的任务就是」
In this case it is my charge...
「带您进入酒店」
to conduct you to the hotel...
- 「行李」 - 停
- and to carry... - Stop.
「带您进入酒店，行李」
"to conduct you to the hotel and to carry..."
「任务」这个词很好
"Charge" was very good.
来吧 Louis
Go ahead, Louis.
第139镜 第2遍
139, the second.
「既然这样，我的任务就是」
「带您进入酒店，行李 帮您拿着」
谢谢
Thank you.
Georges 你能听明白这些吗
Could you understand all that, Georges?
他要拿麦克风揍你了！
He's about to hit you with the micro!
真的！
Seriously!
我所明白的就是我没有全听明白
I understood: I didn't understand anything.
- 继续吧 Vaglio 在等 - 抱歉 我还有工作要做
- Go on, Vaglio is waiting. - I'm sorry, I have work to do.
真的吗？胡说八道
Really? That's a load of bull.
我看不到你了
I can't see you.
不对
No.
要慢慢地
Very slowly.
都还好吗？
Everything okay?
- 好吗？ - 等你准备好
- Yes? - When you're ready.
开始吧！
Go on then!
开始吧 Danièle！
Go on, Danièle!
第140镜
140,
第1遍
the first.
- 第140镜 - 高一点点
140, - A bit higher.
第11遍
The eleventh.
「请您再稍微等一下」
Please wait a moment.
好 但是第四格又消失了
Yes, but the accusative is disappearing again.
第四格 [Akkusativ]： 指「等一下 [einen Moment]」中的第四格冠词词尾-en
「稍微等一下 稍微等一下」
"Wait a moment. Wait a moment."
这句可以说得更漂亮
You can make that nicer.
我发现 你可能觉得
I think you have the impression
因为你要离开 就必须要仓促结束
that you have to rush the ending because you walk away.
但恰恰相反 你可以让他留一下
It's the opposite. You can hold him there.
只留一小会 不过...
Not for very long but...
站定了再离开 你的台词就不会听上去很仓促
firmly, and then go away. Then your text won't seem rushed.
来吧 Louis
Go ahead, Louis.
开拍！
Rolling!
要慢慢发音 「稍微等一下」
Take your time with the syllables. "Wait a moment."
- 开拍 - 第140镜
- Rolling. - 140,
第12遍
the twelfth.
「请您再稍微等一下」
谢谢大家 这是最好的一条 再来一遍吧
Thank you. That was the best. Do one more.
这真的是最好的一条 人们能...
That was really the best one, I think. One can...
- 哪是什么声音？之前还没有 - 是一辆车
- What are they doing down there? That's new. - A car.
- 什么？ - 车
- What? - A car.
- 不对 是工厂的声音 - 是汽车的声音
- No, it's a factory. - It's a car.
- 那有一只蛾子 - 开始吧
- And that is a moth. - Go ahead.
- 等等 它在往这边飞 - 不 不
- Wait, it's getting closer. - No, no.
等等 是一只蛾子
Wait, it's a moth.
没事的 开始吧
It's fine, go ahead.
开拍！
Rolling!
140镜
140,
第13遍
thirteen.
「请您再稍微等一下」
谢谢大家
Thank you.
我跟你说 他没有看他 他在盯着那两个坐着的人
I'm telling you, he's not looking at him, but at the two who are sitting there.
- 是的 - 好 当然
- Yes. - Yes, of course.
- 好的 Manfred - Manfred
- Okay, Manfred. - Manfred.
Harun！
Harun!
- 都准备好 - 他要从一个人走到另一个人
- Get in position please. - He has to go from one to the other.
我找不到空间上的参考点了
I'm lost without a spatial point of reference.
你得... 我们得决定好
You have to... We have to decide.
从那两个人到 Christian 还是反过来
From the two of them to Christian, or the other way around.
但是 无论如何你的眼神都要换方向
But, in any case, you'll have to change your gaze.
- 从 Christian 到那两个人 你觉得行吗？- 好
Christian towards the gentlemen, don't you think?
是的 这样更好 先是从 Christian 到那两个人
Yes, that's better. First Christian towards the gentlemen.
再到蛇
To the snakes.
继续
Go on.
「也许」
Perhaps...
「我们还可以在」
we could still search...
「先生们的口袋里找找」
the pockets of these gentlemen?
对
Yes.
等等
Wait.
「也许」
「我们还可以在」
「先生们的口袋里找找」
我有个问题 请大家耐心
I have a problem. Patience, please.
现在再来
Try again now.
「也许」
「我们还可以在」
「先生们的口袋里找找」
对 但你不能动
Yes, but then you have to stay.
再来
Again.
「也许」
「我们还可以在」
「先生们的口袋里找找」
好 真不错 就这么定了
Yes! That was good. We'll do it like that.
「也许」
Perhaps...
「我们还可以在」
we could still search...
「先生们的口袋里找找」
the pockets of these two gentlemen...
- 抱歉 - 停
- Pardon me. - Stop.
卡夫卡说得更好 你不觉得吗？
Kafka's is better, don't you think?
「先生们」比「那两位先生」更有力度
"The gentlemen" is stronger than "the two gentlemen."
你被炒了！继续吧 Louis
You're fired! Go ahead, Louis.
148镜 第2遍
148, the second.
「也许」
「我们还可以在」
「先生们的口袋里找找」
谢谢大家
Thanks.
你盯着那两位先生的眼神还有待商榷
There was something unclear about the way you were looking at the gentlemen.
继续吧 Louis
Go ahead, Louis.
你的眼神要更有力
You have to be stronger and more...
更有威胁感
threatening.
更有威胁感 来吧 Louis
More threateningly. Go ahead, Louis.
148镜 开始吧 Louis
148. Go ahead, Louis.
第3遍
The third.
不过也绝对要讽刺和戏谑的感觉 而不是法西斯式的
But definitely ironic and playful, and in no way fascist.
「也许」
「我们还可以在」
「先生们的口袋里找找」
我喜欢这次的
Yes, I liked that.
我喜欢
I liked that.
记住了
Keep that in mind:
要威胁 讽刺 戏谑 但不要法西斯
Threatening, ironic and playful, but without becoming fascist.
准备好了？来吧 Louis
Ready? Go ahead, Louis!
- Danièle！ - 开始吧
- Danièle! - Go ahead.
- 148镜 - 不 取景再大一些 对的
- 148,... - No, a little more in the shot. Exactly.
第4遍
The fourth.
「也许」
「我们还可以在」
「先生们的口袋里找找」
谢谢大家
Thank you.
结尾的时候你在看哪 你在扫视他们两个吗？
What are you doing at the end? Are you looking from one to the other?
是的 我还没决定好要看哪位先生
Yeah, I haven't decided yet which of the gentlemen I'm going to looking at.
这样也很好 也许更好呢
That's okay too. Maybe it's even better.
1983年8月23日 拍摄 (哈尔堡丘陵地区)
谢谢你 Louis
Thanks, Louis.
他只有一句词 Georges
He only has one line, Georges.
他只用说
He only says,
「我找不到那张照片了」
"I cannot find the photograph."
「我找不到那张照片了」
I cannot find the photograph.
你能拿一下那个该死的...
Will you get this damn...
我更喜欢不盯着
I like it better without the look.
我还是觉得不盯着更好
It's still better without the look.
在他在衬衫下面翻找的时候
When he looks under the shirt.
下一句？
What's the connection?
- 下一句是什么？ - 「什么样的照片？」
- What comes after? - "What photograph?"
我的手要怎么放？
But what do I do with my hands?
- 这只手... - 现在的位置就很好
- This hand... - It's in the right place now.
- 放在这？ - 是的
- It stays here? - Yes.
衬衫边缘有一条手帕 放到衬衫下面 在手帕下面
The edge of the shirt. That's a handkerchief. Under the shirt, under the handkerchief.
一旦... 好的
As soon as... yes.
就这样 对
Like that, yes.
那条手帕必须要回到它该在的位置
The handkerchief has to go back where it belongs.
对
Yes.
所以
So...
就不用盯着了
So, without the look.
- 再来一遍 - 我的右手放在书上？
- Try it again. - My right hand on the book?
要放得更远点...
I'd put it further...
可以一边做动作一边说话
Perhaps speak during the movement.
这就是解决方法
That would be the solution.
请吧
Please.
「我找不到那张照片了」
- 好的 - 不错
- Okay. - That's good.
你要更加注意左手
You have to be more careful with your left hand.
左手要更果断
It has to be more decisive.
把书拿起来很好
Lifting the book is good,
不过要再多翻找一下衬衫下面
but I would look under the shirt a bit more.
然后说台词 再找书的下面
And then under the book, and speak in between.
再来
Again.
「我找不到那张照片了」
来吧 Louis
Go ahead, Louis.
141镜 第1遍
141, the first.
「我找不到那张照片了」
谢谢
Thank you.
这样行吗？
Is that okay?
我们不会因为他兴奋 必须得...
He can't get us excited. It has to...
你不能演得太过 也不能演得太少
You can't do too much, but you can't do too little either.
- 我们在谈论什么？ - 你可以试着更...
- What are we talking about? - You could try a little bit more...
- 更加笨拙？ -是的
- Fumbling around? - Yes.
然后我们就能看到是不是太过了 不行你就再来一遍
Then we'll see if it's too much and if so, you'll do it again.
这种事情...
Things like that...
141镜 第3遍
141, the third.
我是不是太慢了？
Did I take too long?
- 没有 - 我能再慢点吗？
- No. - Could I take longer?
再来一遍一样的
Do another one like that.
不要更慢了 不行
But not longer, no.
- 来吧 Louis - 开拍 - 第4遍
- Go ahead, Louis. - Rolling. - The fourth.
不要摸到睡袋下面 没有的
Don't go under the sleeping bag, that's hopeless.
很明显没有
It's obvious.
轻轻拍拍手帕就行
Pat the handkerchiefs a bit.
好的
Yes.
这样就行了
That's enough.
这样就行了
That's enough!
「我找不到那张照片了」
"I cannot find the photograph."
- 这次... 我知道... - 是啊 有点不对了
- That was... I know... - Yeah, that's wrong somehow.
类似一种问句 比如「你能找到那张照片吗？」
There has to be a question like: "Can you find the photograph?"
之类的
Something like that..
稍微活动下吧 我们正在换胶卷
Run around a bit. We're changing the reels.
我不太确定要强调「找」这个字
I'm not sure it was the right emphasize on "find".
不 不是的
No, it wasn't.
如果你不告诉我演得好不好
If you don't tell me whether it's good or bad,
我就会试着去改善 去改变一些演法
I try to improve, I mean, change something.
这种失误就可能发生
Then things like that happen.
「我找不到那张照片了」
- 是的 - 我知道这是对的
- Yes. - I know that's right.
但是如果你不告诉我该怎么做
But if you don't tell me what to do,
也不说演的好还是坏
or say whether it's good or bad...
- 你不知道你该说点什么？- 是的
- You don't know what you should say? - No.
这一遍不错 这次不用快速读「照片」这个词
That was good. This time, don't rush the word "photograph".
第9遍
The ninth.
「我找不到那张照片了」
谢谢
Thank you.
不要读得太着急
Don't rush the line.
「我找不到那张照片了」
- 就像自言自语一样？ - 是的 有点这意思
- As if I were talking to myself? - Yes, a little bit.
- Danièle？ - 在
- Danièle? - Yes.
「照片」这个词有点...
The word "photograph" is a bit...
太赶了
too rushed.
「我找不到那张照片了」
对的
Yes.
「我找不到那张照片了」
不对
No.
「我找不到那张照片了」
- 对了 - 这不是一样快吗！
- Yes. - But that's just as fast!
对啊 但你现在可以慢点说
Yes, but you can slow it down now.
上个版本成果丰硕 而且几乎都很好
We have a rich harvest from the other version, and they're almost all good.
「我找不到那张照片了」
- 不 - 读起来慢点更难 Jean-Marie.
- No. - It's hard to say it slower, Jean-Marie.
「我找不到那张照片了」
- 对了 - 强调「照片」这个词？
- Yes. - On the word "photograph"?
强调一点点
Emphasize it a little.
- 不对 - 「我找不到那张照片了」
No.
- 不对 - 「我找不到那张照片了」
No.
对了
Yes.
再慢一点
And a little slower.
准备好了吗 Danièle？
Ready, Danièle?
谢谢
Thank you.
再多强调一点「照片」
Emphasize "photograph" more.
Manfred 快来帮帮他
Manfred, help him out real quick.
「我找不到那张照片了」
- 对的 - 和之前速度是一样的
- Yes. - It's the same speed as before.
- 对 不对 和速度没关系 - 也和速度有关系
- Yes, no. It has nothing to do with speed. - It also has to do with speed.
「我找不到那张照片了」
- 对 - 我一直都是这么说的
- Yes. - That's how I always did it.
我只是想再录一遍 就是这样
But I'd like to record it one more time, that's all.
非常好
Very good.
最好的一次 我们还有两三条的空余
That's the best. We have enough space for two or three more takes.
太棒了
That was great.
动作也很棒
The gestures too.
谢谢 和之前一样棒
Thanks. Just as good.
我们还有三十米胶卷
We've got another 30 meters.
每次都比之前更好 你不用再担心了
It gets better every time. So you don't need to worry anymore.
谢谢 这次很好
Thank you. That was very good.
最后一次
One last time.
我们还有二十米胶卷
We still have 20 meters.
保持这次的方向
Keep going in that direction.
「我找不到那张照片了」
「什么样的照片？」
What photograph?
谢谢 我们拍好了
Thanks. We've got it. Did that work? And the shot?
它正常运转吗？这镜如何？
- 这一镜没问题 - 有什么不对的吗？
- The shot was right. - Is something wrong?
- 光有什么问题吗？ - 不 完全没有
- Is something wrong with the light? - No, not at all.
选个点位吧 Willy
Pick a spot, Willy.
不 会很好的
No, it'll be good.
稍等一下 Caroline 对对焦有点疑问
Stay there for a moment. Caroline has doubts about the focus.
- 有问题吗？ - 很完美
- Is that good? - It's perfect.
- 还好吗？ - 我们继续吧
- All right? - Let's continue.
很好 特别好 我们做到了
That was good. Very good. We've got it.
所以我们再来一次
So we are doing it one more time.
」什么样的照片？「
- 这个动作可以吗？ - 行
- Is this look okay? - Yes.
「但这不可能。它本来就放在上面」
But that is impossible, it was lying on the top
「现在不见了」
and now it is gone.
「假如你们没有玩弄我的箱子就好了」
If only you had not fooled with the suitcase.
非常好 不过我对开头的动作不太满意
Very good. Nevertheless, I don't like the look in the beginning.
- 剩下的还不错 - 哪里？箱子里的动作吗？
- The rest is okay. - Which? In the suitcase?
- 不够... - 太高了吗？
- It isn't... - Too high?
- 我不知道 有点... - 像这样？
- I don't know. It's... - And like this?
来试试
Give it a try.
不对
No.
再高点
Higher.
试着抬头看 Harun...
Try looking up to Harun...
- 然后再低头 - 像这样？
- and then down. - Like this?
对
Yes.
- 像这样 - 对 然后再低头
- Like this? - Yes and then look down.
- 我正在往下看 - 他做对了
- I am looking down. - He is.
继续
Go ahead.
不对 离 Harun 太远了 找个折中的位置
No, that's too far towards Harun. Somewhere in the middle.
- 这样吗？ - 现在... 对
- Like this? - Now the... yes.
看《圣经》试试 有点太过了
Try looking at the Bible. That's too much.
不如冒险向上看 略微冲着我们 也略微冲着 Harun
I'd risk looking up. Slightly towards us, slightly towards Harun.
是的
Yes.
看后面的相机
At the camera back there.
不对 这不是个办法
No, that's not the answer.
你自言自语试试呢？
How about if you were talking to yourself?
你会看哪里？
Where would you look?
「但这不可能」
"But that is impossible,"
- 就像这样 - 那就这样
- Like this. - Then do that.
- 是的 不错 - 看睡袋
- Yes, that's good. - At the sleeping bag.
就这样吧 我刚还在想睡袋是对的 你看！
Go right ahead. I was just thinking the sleeping bag might be right. You see!
开始
Let's go.
- 你要看着吗？ - 是的
- Do you want to see? - Yes.
好的
Okay.
「但这不可能。它本来就放在上面」
「现在不见了」
「假如你们没有玩弄我的箱子就好了」
开拍
Rolling.
第1遍
The first.
进展如何 Willy？
Is that all right, Willy?
- 他必须在取景框里 - 他同时还要在光里
- He has to be in the shot. - But he also has to be in the light.
Lubtchansky 可高兴了
Lubtchansky is happy.
- Louis？ - 你准备好就行
- Louis? - Whenever you're ready.
第2遍
The second.
去吧 没人会伤害你
Go ahead, no one's going to hurt you.
- Louis？ - 开拍
现在更咄咄逼人一点
Now a little more aggressive.
他横向摔倒了
He fell down horizontally.
对
Yes.
开拍
Rolling.
145镜 第7遍
145, the seventh.
- Caroline 检查下灯光没问题吧？ - 没问题
- Check the light, right Caroline? - Yes!
很不错
That was very nice.
注意「上面」这个词
Be careful of "the top".
并不是上面 是下面
So not up, but down.
注意「doch lieber」这个词的D和L
Watch out: "doch lieber", D-L.
注意...
Warning...
"Doch lieber..."
「假如你们...」
"If only you had..."
没出大问题 但是字母D几乎要变成L了
It wasn't bad but the "D" almost turned into an "L".
「假如你们...」
"If only you had..."
一口气说
In one breath.
这是一种变体
That's one variation.
不错 我只是想...
That was good. I just wanted to...
我要一样的动作... 嘿 你在听吗？
I wanted the same movement... Hey, are you listening?
「现在不见了」 然后才是动作
"Now it is gone", and then the movement.
动作之后那句台词也要更早
And the line a bit sooner after the movement.
- 我是在发火 或者什么 - 对
- I blew a fuse or something. - Yeah.
但你成功了吧 Louis？
But you succeeded. Louis?
- 谢谢 - 谢谢你
- Thanks. - Thank you.
很好
It's okay.
还剩多少胶卷？
How much more do we have?
- 用完了 - 那么...
- Nothing. - Well, then...
- 你想什么办？ - 再装一卷？
- What do you want to do? - Load another reel?
- 不 这一镜就算了 - 如果你想 我们就装
- No, not for this shot. - We could if you want.
不 我只是想知道...
No, I just wanted to know...
你不打算停下吗？
Aren't you stopping?
等它停下还需要一会儿
It takes a while before it stops.
它没出来...
It didn't come out...
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