FOR NOW, MOST WATCHED, MOST
TRUSTED, MOST GRATEFUL YOU SPENT
THE NIGHT WITH US.
FROM WASHINGTON, I'M
SHANNON BREAM.
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Tucker:r: WELL, GOOD EVENING
AND WELCOME TO
"TUCKER CARLSON TONIGHT."
PRESIDENT TRUMP GAVE HIS FIRST
STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS LAST
NIGHT, YOU PROBABLY SAW IT.
THE STRIKING THING ABOUT THIS
BREACH WAS HOW NORMAL IT SEEMED,
HOW ORDINARY IT WAS.
HE STUCK TO THE SCRIPT, PRETTY
MUCH THE LETTER, IT WAS IN THE
CENTER OF AMERICAN OPINION,
CALLS FOR STRONG BORDERS, UNITY,
A ROBUST MILITARY, WARM WORDS
FOR THE COUNTRY'S BEDROCK
INSTITUTION, FROM THE FAMILY
INTO OUR DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.
MOST AMERICANS LIKE THESE
THINGS, THEYY AGREE WITH THEM.
DONALD TRUMP REMAINS
CONTROVERSIAL AS A PERSON BUT
THE BULK OF HIS POSITIONS ARE
NOT CONTROVERSIAL, NOT VERY.
CHECK THE POLLING ON THAT.
THAT MAY BE THE KEY THING TO
KNOW ABOUT OUR CURRENT POLITICS.
IT'S MOSTLY PERSONAL.
IF YOU READ A TRUMP SPEECH IN A
BRITISH ACCENT, PRETTY MUCH
EVERYONE WOULD APPLAUD.
NOT EVERYBODY BUT MOST PEOPLE.
MAYBE UNFORTUNATELY LAST NIGHT'S
STATE OF THE UNION WAS NOT
DELIVERED IN A BRITISH ACCENT.
DEMOCRATS ARE NOT APPLIED.
THE MODERN DEMOCRATIC PARTY,
EVERYTHINGRY DONALD TRUMP SAYS IS
THE HEAT SPEECH, EVEN THINGS
THAT THE LEFT ONCE AGREED WITH.
NOT NEARLY AS MUCH AS HIS
ADMINISTRATION HAS CHANGED
DEMOCRATS.
IF YOU JUST RETURNED FROM A YEAR
ABROAD, PREPARE YOURSELF, YOU
WILL NOT RECOGNIZE THE NEW
DEMOCRATICDE PARTY.
LAST NIGHT, DEMOCRATIC MEMBERS
REFUSED TO STAND OR CLAP WHEN
TRUMP PRAISED THE
NATIONAL ANTHEM, WHEN HE PRAISED
MILITARY VETERANS, WHEN HE
POINTED OUT NEW LOW BLACK
UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBERS.
SOME REFUSED TO STAND FOR STEVE
SCALISE, LOUISIANA CONGRESSMANUS
HE NEARLY MURDERED LAST YEAR BY
A BERNIE SANDERS SUPPORTER.
WHAT IS GOING ON?
THEY ARE GIVING TRUMP THE
FINGER.
BAD MANNERS ARE NOT A FORM OF
RESISTANCE.
WHAT IT IS MORE THAN THAT?
WHAT IF DEMOCRATS DON'T LIKE
THOSE THINGS ANYMORE?
WHAT ARE PRAISING OUR VETERANS
OR FLAG REALLY DOES ENRAGE THE
MODERN LEFT?
IN ITS TWEETS DURING THE SPEECH,
MSNBC HOST JOY REID PUT IT THIS
WAY, "CHURCH, FAMILY, POLICE,
NATIONAL ANTHEM, TRUMP TRYING TO
CALL ON ALL THE TROPES OF
1950s ERA NATIONALISM, THE
GOAL OF THIS SPEECH APPEARS TOOA
BE TO FORCE THE NORMALIZATION OF
TRUMP ON THE TERMS OF THE BYGONE
ERA."
THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE.
CHURCH, FAMILY, POLICE,
MILITARY, AND LOVE OF COUNTRY,E
ARE NOW TROPES FOR MY BYGONE
ERA?
MOST AMERICANS CONSIDER THOSE
THINGS THE PILLARS OF OUR
CIVILIZATION.
IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THAT,
IMAGINE A SOCIETY WITHOUT THOSE
THINGS.
WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE?
HOW COULD AT LAST?
WOULD YOU WANT TO LIVE THERE?
JOY REID WOULD COME SO WOULD
MANY OF HER COANCHOR'S OVER AT
MSNBC
ENTER AND
HER HARVARD -- THIS IS IN
POLITICAL RESISTANCE, IT'S NOT
ABOUT DONALD TRUMP, ITS
NIHILISM, THE MINDLESS IMPULSE
TO TEAR DOWN WHAT YOU DID NOTHE
BUILD.
RICHARD YOUR FATHER TRANSLATED
INTO POLITICAL TURNS.
IT SEEKS TO UNDERMINE THE DECENT
AND BEAUTIFUL AND ALL THAT CAME
BEFORE.
THIS ISN'T A PHILOSOPHY, IT'S A
SICKNESS, AND ONCE YOU CATCH IT,
YOU ARE APT TO SAY THINGS LIKE
THIS.
SPEAK IF HE GIVES A SPEECH
TONIGHT IN WHICH HE MAKES IT
SOUND LIKE THE BIGGEST ISSUE IN
THEGE UNITED STATES, IS MS-13,
AGAIN NOBODY THAT DOESN'T WATCH
FOX NEWS HAS EVERUT HEARD OF.
FOR THIS PRESIDENT TO
CONFLATE THE DREAMERS WITH GANG
MEMBERS, HE WAS DEMONIZING OUR
IMMIGRANTS HERE, AND I WAS
OFFENDED W.
Tucker: SO MS-13 IS MERELY
SOMETHING THAT FOX NEWS CREATED
TO DEMONIZE IMMIGRANTS?
PRESUMABLY LEAVE THOSE WOULD BE
THE SAME IMMIGRANTS THAT GANG
ROUTINELY KILLS BECAUSE THEY
ONLY KILL
IMMIGRANTS.
WE DON'T WANT TO THANK THE LEFT
REALLY BELIEVES ANY OF THIS BUT
WE ARE STARTING TO THINK THEY
DO.
JOE CONCHA WRITES ABOUT MEDIA
FOR "THE HILL" HE JOINS US
TONIGHT.
JOE, AND ANOTHER CABLE CHANNEL,
ONE OF THE CONTRIBUTORS AND SAID
THAT SHE WAS IN EFFECT TRIGGERED
BY THE WORD "FAMILY," THAT WAS
OFFENSIVE,IV A DOG WHISTLE OR
CODE WORD.
THAT, TO ME, CRYSTALLIZED THE
RESPONSE.
WHAT WAS YOUR VIEW OF IT?
SPEAK WITH A VIEW OVER ALL IS
WHO ARE YOU GOING TO BELIEVE?
POLLS THAT WERE TAKEN BY PEOPLE
FROM PEOPLE FROM ACROSS THE
COUNTRY BY CBS AND CNN, I GET
THERE/POST, YOU CAN ONLY HOLD
THEM IN SO MUCH WEIGHT, MAYBE A
COUPLE MORE REPUBLICANS WATCHED
LAST NIGHT THEN ANSWERED, SO
YOU EITHER BELIEVE THEM OR YOU
BELIEVE PENDANTS THAT PRIMARILY
TO THEIR PRIOR SUFFOCATING -- DO
THEIRND PONTIFICATING FROM
NEW YORK OR D.C., ALL I COULDHE
THINK ABOUT WAS WISCONSIN,
PENNSYLVANIA, MICHIGAN, THE FACT
THAT NO ONE GOT ANYTHING CLOSE
TO GETTING THE STATES RIGHT IN
TERMS EFFECTIVELY WHILE COMING
DOWN BECAUSE NO ONE CAN GAIN THE
DELL MIGHT GAUGE THE TRUE PULSE
OF THE
COUNTRY.
WE SEE THE ANALYSIS TODAY AND
LAST NIGHT AND WE COMPARE TWO
POLES THAT HAVE ASTOUNDING
NUMBERS, CNN SAW THE
RESPONDENT'S ESSAY THE SPEECH
WAS
VERY OR SOMEWHAT POSITIVE.
ITPE GOES HIGHER ON CBS, 75%.
TWO KEY STATS.
EIGHT AND TEN IN THE CBS POLL
THOUGHT THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS
TRYING TO UNITE THE COUNTRY
RATHER THAN DIVIDED YET ALL WE
HEARD FROM PUNDITS IS THAT THIS
WAS A GLOOMY AND DIVISIVE
SPEECH.
FINALLY, THE CBS POLL, PUTTING
THE PARTISANS ASIDE, THOSE WHO
IDENTIFY AS INDEPENDENTS, 73%
SAW THE SPEECH AS PART POSITIVE BUT
IF YOU JUST WATCH THE COVERAGE
TODAY, YOU WOULD THINK THIS WAS
ONE OF THE WORST, MOST DIVISIVE,
MOST DARKEST BEACHES WE'VE EVER
SEEN FROM A PRESIDENT.
Tucker: IT'S ALMOST AS IF
THERE IS A DISCONNECT BETWEEN
THE PUBLIC ON THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
SUPPOSED TO BE GATHERING ITS
NEWS AND PRESENTINGG REALITY TO
THEM.
YES.
LOOK AT JOY REID AND HER SAYING
THAT MS-13 IS A FOX STORY.
I THINK SHE GOT HER AFT MIXED
UP.
AS AN FBI STORY AS AND THEY ARE
ON THE FBI LIST.
IT'S NOT IT AGAIN THAT YOU CAN
PUT TOGETHER A FOOTBALL TEAM
WITH. C
THERE ARE 70,000 MEMBERS IN
MS-13 IN LONG ISLAND NOT TOO FAR
FOR ME HERE IN JERSEY.
THEY COMMITTED 25 MURDERS
ACCORDING TO LOCAL AUTHORITIES
SINCE 2016, THAT'S A BIG DEAL.
Tucker: IF YOU DIG DOWN A
LITTLE BIT, HOW MANY OF THOSE
MURDERS ARE PEOPLE IN YOUR
NEIGHBORHOOD OR MIND?
'S ZERO.
HOW MANY WERE A FELLOW
IMMIGRANTS?
100%.
SO HOW WAS IT ANTI-IMMIGRANT TO
OPPOSE A GANG THAT KILLS
IMMIGRANTS?
IT CONTRADICTS WITH THE
PRESIDENT SAID TO THE WEEK
BEFORE,US WHICH WAS HE EXTENDED
HIS DACA PROPOSAL TO 1.8 MILLION
PEOPLE.
THAT IS FAR MORE THAN THE
800,000 THAT WE HAD BEEN
HEARING.
SO HOW CAN HE PROPOSE SOMETHING
LIKE THAT AND BE ANTI-IMMIGRANT
AT THE SAME TIME?
IT'S A ROCKING CONTRADICTION.
Tucker: IS THERE ANYONE AT
THESE NETWORKS WHO IS THINKING
THROUGH WHAT LIFE AFTER TRUMP
MIGHT LOOK LIKE?
IF YOU ALIENATE HALF THE COUNTRY
OR DEVALUE YOUR CREDIBILITY WITH
ALL THE COUNTRY, BECAUSE THEY
HAVE, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HE'S
GONE?
OH, BOY.
[LAUGHS]
IT'S GOING TO BE A COMPLETE
DISASTER I WOULD SAY.
THE ONLY REASON WHY RATINGS ARE
A LITTLE BIT HIGHER IS BECAUSE
OF DONALD TRUMP AND OBVIOUSLY
THE VITRIOL TOWARDS HIM.
I THINK WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW,
AND I HONESTLY BELIEVE THIS, YOU
HAVE A LOT OF PENDANTS,
PARTICULARLY REPUBLICAN PUNDITS
THAT ARE ANTI-TRUMP, THAT ARE
TELLING THEIR AUDIENCE ON THOSE
NETWORKS WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR,
IN ESSENCE, COMFORT FOOD.
ON THEIR PHONES AFTERWARDS THEY
ARE CHECKING TWITTER AND IF THEY
ARE REMOTELY CONTRADICTORY INND
TERMS OF NOT BEING ANTI-TRUMP,
WE SAW THIS LAST YEAR WITH VAN
JONES AFTER THE PRESIDENT'S
ADDRESS TO THE JOINT SESSION OF
CONGRESS, HE PRAISED THE
PRESIDENT, SAID HE LOOKED
PRESIDENTIAL, ANDON HE GOT BULLIED
AND DESTROYED ON SOCIAL MEDIA TO
THE POINTEN WHERE HE HAD TO SAY,
WAIT A MINUTE, LET ME CLARIFY
WHAT I SAID.
I THINK AT THIS POINT YOU HAVE
ANCHORS AND PUNDITS THAT ARE
VERY, VERY AFRAID THAT THEIR
AUDIENCES WILL TURN ON THEMY
UNLESS THEY SAY EXACTLY WHAT
THEY WANT TO HEAR, AND IT'S
TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME, AS
WELL, WHICH OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU
SUFFER FROM NOT FOR MORE THAN
FOUR HOURS, GO TO A SAFE SPACE
IMMEDIATELY.
Tucker: IT'S AN AIRLESS
ROOM.
GOOD TO SEE IT.
IN THE WAKE OF THE PRESIDENT'S
SPEECH, MEMBERS OF THE PRESS AND
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TRY TO
OUTDO EACH OTHER IN AN EFFORT TO
BE AS PANICKED AND TERRIFIED AS
THEY COULD.
HOW COULD THE PRESIDENT SPEAK
FOR AN HOUR AND NOT SPEAK THAT
FAR OFF NATION RUSSIA?
THERE IS A MISSING FIGURE IN
THIS HALL TONIGHT THAT WE F OUGHT
NOT TO FORGET ABOUT.
AND THAT IS THE SPECIAL
PROSECUTOR OF THE UNITED STATES
WHO WAS AT THIS HOUR PROBABLY
MEETING WITH HIS TEAM.
HE'S NOT THERE.
HE SORT OF HOVERS OVER.
NOT IS AN EXTRAORDINARILY
IMPORTANT PART OF WHAT IS GOING
ONHI IN D.C.
WHEN PUTIN IS NOT MET BY
POWER, IT IS ALMOST LIKE HE IS
GIVING AN INVITATION TO CONTINUE
HIS ASSAULT.
THAT IS TANTAMOUNT TO
MALFEASANCE.
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS COMPLETELY
SILENT ABOUT RUSSIA'S ONGOING
ASSAULT ON OUR DEMOCRACY.
HIS ADMINISTRATION'S OUTRAGEOUS
REFUSAL TO IMPOSE SANCTIONS,
WHAT'S THAT ABOUT?
WHAT IS THAT ABOUT?
WHAT DO THE RUSSIANS HAVE ON HIM
POLITICALLY, PERSONALLY,
FINANCIALLY?
Tucker: NOTED FOREIGN
POLICY EXPERTS NANCY PELOSI ANDER
CORY BOOKER, FOLKS.
LUIS GUTIERREZ WENT VERY
HYSTERICAL.
HE SAID THE PRESIDENT'S
SPEECH -- "WHOEVER TRANSLATED IT
FOR HIM FROM RUSSIAN DID A
GOOD JOB."
MARK GREEN ISB. A DEMOCRAT, HE'S
PUBLISHED 23 BOOKS ON PUBLIC
AFFAIRS, HE'S BEEN AROUND.
MARK, YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND LONG
ENOUGH TO REMEMBER WHEN
McCARTHY ERA WAS A CENTRAL
LESSON FOR AMERICAN LIBERALS,
WHEN HYSTERIA OVERTOOK THE
POLITICAL SYSTEM AND PEOPLE
STARTED ACCUSING EACH OTHER AND
PEOPLE WERE DRUMMED OUT OF THE
PUBLIC SPHERE BECAUSE OF IT AND
AT THE TIME, PEOPLE SAID THINGS
EXACTLY LIKE CONGRESSMAN
GUTIERREZ SAID.
TRANSLATED FROM THE ORIGINAL
RUSSIAN.
DOES IT STRIKE YOU THAT YOUR
SITE IS DOING THAT EXACT THING
RIGHT NOW?
NOT AT ALL.
LET'S STICK TO THE FACTS.
Tucker: [LAUGHS]
I DO THINK TRUMPS STATE OF
THE UNION WAS POSSIBLE IF YOU
HAVEHA AMNESIA.
OVER 18 MONTHS IN THE PAST, HE
OF COURSE MOCKED AND INSULTED
MERYL STREEP, MEXICANS,
MUSLIMS --
Tucker: HEAT MOCKED MERYL
STREEP?
I DIDN'T KNOW.
I'M OUT.
THAT'S IT.
I'M DONE.
MERYL STREEP, THAT'S IT.
GIVE ME ONE MINUTE.
ALL FACT-CHECKERS LED BY
"THE WASHINGTON POST" HAVE
DOCUMENTED OVER 2,000 MISLEADING
OR FALSE STATEMENTS.
BARACK OBAMA ILLEGALLY
WIRETAPPING DONALD TRUMP.
SHOULD HE HAVE SAID --
Tucker: NOW YOU ARE GETTING
STUPID.
LISTEN, LISTEN.
Tucker: CAN I ASK YOU A
REAL QUESTION?
SPEAK OF HIS INTELLIGENCE
AGENCIES HAVE SAID THAT RUSSIA
HACKED OUR ELECTION.
SO HE IS SILENT ON PUTIN, AND HE
PLAYS UP MS-13.
SO IF THE DEMOCRATS ARE UPSET,
YOU SAY THEY ARE HYSTERICAL, HIS
TWEETS AND HAS PUBLIC COMMENTS
ARE SO HYSTERICAL, WORLD POPULAR O
OPINION HAS GONE FROM 60%
FAVORABLE TO AMERICA TO 20%.
TUCKER, THEY ARE LAUGHING AT
YOU.
Tucker: OKAY.
CAN I ASK YOU A COUPLE OF
QUESTIONS?
I GET DEMOCRATS DON'T LIKE
TRUMP, THEY HATE HIS TWEETS, I
KIND OF HATE HIS TWEETS, TOO.
AND HIS FALSE STATEMENTS.
Tucker: AND HE ATTACKED
MERYL STREEP, THAT IS TOO MUCH.
BUT WHY WOULD THEY SIT AND
REFUSE TO CLAP WHEN HE SAID NICE
WORDS ABOUT THE NATIONAL ANTHEM
AT THE MILITARY VETERANS?
WHAT MESSAGE DOES THAT SEND?
YOU WHEN I KNOW THAT
DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS HAVE A
BIPARTISAN AFFECTION FOR THE
MILITARY.
FOR YOU TO PRETEND DEMOCRATS --
Tucker: I'M NOT PRETENDING
ANYTHING.
I'M ASKING YOU A QUESTION.
WHAT IS THE ANSWER?
YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH
THE
FLAG.
Tucker: ARE YOU TRIGGERED
BY VETERANS?
SPEAK OF THE FLAG IS NOT ABOUT
VETERANS.
Tucker: I'M ASKING YOU
ABOUT VETERANS.
VETERANS SAT THERE.
THE RIGHT TO SALUTE THE FLAG,
YOU KNOW THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS
GONE AFTER BLACK ATHLETES LIKE
COLIN KAEPERNICK, HE DID THAT.
HE IS SO ANTI-MINORITY --
Tucker: OH, TOTALLY.
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION,
THOUGH?
WHY, WHEN HE SAYS COMPLEMENTARY
THINGS -- I WILL LET YOU ANSWER.
PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTION I
ASKED, WHICH IS, WHEN THEY SIT
THERE AND HEAR HIM COMPLEMENT
OUR MILITARY VETERANS AND REFUSE
TO APPLAUD, I KNOW THEY DON'T
LIKE HIM, THAT'S FINE.
BUT WHY NOT APPLAUD VETERANS?
OF COURSE --
Tucker: WHY NOT APPLAUD
THEM?
I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE
AUDIENCE RESPONSE.
I THOUGHT THIS WAS ABOUT TRUMPS
STATE OF THE UNION.
Tucker: WHEN STEVE SCALISE
GOES A STANDING OVATION, WHY NOT
JOIN IT?
HE'S A MEMBER OF CONGRESS THAT
WAS SHOT.
HE'S ALIVE.
BY NOT?ND
I WOULD HATE TO THINK DEMOCRATS
ARE BECOMING EXTREME AND
ARRANGED AN OUT OF TOUCH WITH
POPULAR OPINION BUT THAT IS THE
CONCLUSION I'M REACHING BECAUSE
I WATCHED LAST NIGHT.
JOE, WHO TALKED ABOUT POST,
HE SAID OUT OF TOUCH WITH
POPULAR OPINION.
Tucker: WHY CAN'T YOU
APPLAUD FOR STEVE SCALISE? T
ANSWER MY QUESTION.
ALLOW ME TO FINISH A SENTENCE
AFTER THE COMMA.
DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT POLLS?
BECAUSE HE IS AN INCESSANT LIAR
AND BECAUSE HE IS INSULTING
DREAMERS AS IF THEY ARE ALL
MS-13 --
Tucker: OH, I THOUGHT HE
WAS OFFERING AMNESTY TO
2 MILLION OF THEM.
FOR $30 BILLION WALL THAT
MEXICAN DIDN'T PAY FOR. F
COME ON, TUCKER.
Tucker: MARK, YOU USED TO
BE SO REASONABLE.
A LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPE AND I
THINK, I THINK TRUMPS THAT SOME
UNREASONABLE THINGS AND ON THE
LEFT BECOMES SO MUCH MORE
UNREASONABLE THAN TRUMP.
YOU WILL GET HIM REELECTED BY
YOUR INABILITY TO FOLLOW A
LINEAR PLOT.
YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT HE SAYS
UNREASONABLE THINGS BUT THE
DEMOCRATS DIDN'T APPLAUD BECAUSE
HE TOOK FALSE CREDIT FOR BLACK
UNEMPLOYMENT.
LOOK, LET'S TALK NUMBERS.
JOE TALKED TO NUMBERS ABOUT WHO
WATCHED THE STATE OF THE UNION.
Tucker: ANSWER MY QUESTION!
WHY DON'T YOU ANSWER THAT AND WE
CAN MOVE ON?
BY 2-1, THE PUBLIC DOESN'T
TRUST HIM.
YOUR AUDIENCE DOES AND YOU DO,
BUT THE WORLD IS LAUGHING --
Tucker: I DON'T TRUST ANY
POLITICIAN.
I'M INTERESTED IN THEIR IDEAS
AND I SUPPORT THE ONES THAT I
THINK I'M RIGHT AND I OPPOSE THE
ONE I DON'T.
THE ISSUE ISN'T MERYL STREEP.
THE ISSUE IS A PRESIDENT WHO
DEMEANS MINORITIES --
Tucker: ONE SIMPLE
QUESTION, A FACTUAL QUESTION.
IF THE PRESIDENT OFFERED, AS HE
DID LAST NIGHT, AMNESTY TO
OVER -- AND THE FINAL NUMBER
WILL BE OVER 2 MILLION PEOPLE
HERE ILLEGALLY --LI A BIGGER OFFER
THAN OBAMA EVER GAVE, THEN HOW
IS HE AGAINST THEM?
HE'S OFFERING THEM CITIZENSHIP.
I KNOW THE ANSWER.
Tucker: WHAT'S THE ANSWER?
ALL OF US WOULD AGREE TO IT
IN A BILL JUST ABOUT DREAMERS.
BUT WHAT TRUMP IS SAYING IS I
WILL DO IT IF YOU GIVE ME
$30 BILLION FOR A WALL THAT IS
NOT NECESSARY.
WHY IS HE LINKING THE DREAMERS
TO SOMETHING ELSE?
Tucker: WHY IS HE LINKING
PEOPLE WHO SNUCK IN THE COUNTRY
TO ATTEMPTS TO OTHER PEOPLE'S
THINKING IN THE COUNTRY?
I'LL GET YOU BACK TOMORROW.
DID THEY SNEAK INTO THE
COUNTRY OVER THEIR BABIES?
TUCKER --
Tucker: THEIR PARENTS SNUCK
INTO THE COUNTRY.
FOR THEIR BABIES?
STOP MISLEADING YOUR AUDIENCE!
Tucker: THANKS FOR JOINING
US ON GOOD LUCK.
TOP SILICON VALLEY COMPANY
AIRBNB TRIED TO WIN OVER
CUSTOMERS BY TOUTING ITS OWN
VIRTUE, IN CONTRAST TO THE
PRESIDENT, WHO WAS REPULSIVE.
IS THAT WORKING?
WE TALKED TO ONE OF THE
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Tucker: THE TECH COMPANY
AIRBNB, WHICH IS RUN BY VERY
RICH PEOPLE WHO ARE DEFINITELY
YOUR MORAL BETTERS, USED THE
STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESSED AS AN
OPPORTUNITY TO DENOUNCE THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND ITS
IMMIGRATION POLICY.
THEY DEBUTED IN AD THAT
RIDICULES THE PRESIDENT'S RECENT
ADS ABOUT POOR AND DANGEROUS
COUNTRIES.
HE
IS A PART OF IT.
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Tucker: WE'LL SEE YOU IN
PORT-AU-PRINCE.
A SHORT TIME AGO, WE SPOKE TO
AIRBNB HEAD OF POLICY, CHRIS
LEHANE.
CHRIS, THANKS FOR COMING ON.
THANKS FOR HAVING ME COME AT
TUCKER.
HOW ARE YOU DOING?
Tucker: I'M DOING GREAT.
I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH YOUR
WORK, FOR MANY YEARS IN THE
POLITICAL SPHERE, NOW YOU ARE
WORKING FOR A BIG COMMERCIAL
COMPANY.
I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED BY THE
MESSAGE OF THE AD.
THE MESSAGE APPEARS TO BE, THE
PRESIDENT IS IMMORAL BUT WE ARE
VIRTUOUS, THEREFORE, SPEND MONEY
WITH US?
IS THAT THE MESSAGE?
I DON'T THINK, TUCKER, THE
WORDS YOU USED ARE ANYWHERE IN
THE AD --
Tucker: THEY DON'T.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE
TRAJECTORY, WE RAN OUR FIRST AT
ALONG THE LINES ON FOX LAST YEAR
DURING THE SUPER BOWL --
Tucker: WE APPRECIATE THAT.
UR I'M SURE YOU DO.
I'M SURE THE COMPANY DEAD.
[LAUGHS]
THE AD WAS REALLY FOCUSED ON THE
SAME SUBJECT MATTER THAT THIS AD
IS FOCUSED ON, WHICH IS THIS
CONCEPT OF WE ACCEPT, WE ARE A
PEOPLE TO PEOPLE BASED PLATFORM,
WE HAVE OVER 250 MILLION USERS,
191 COUNTRIES, AND WE DO
BELIEVE, OUR MISSION IS TO ALLOW
ANYONE TO BELONG ANYWHERE, AND
SO LAST YEAR ON THE SUPER BOWL,
WE RAN AN AD ABOUT WE ACCEPT,
WHICH REALLY EMBRACED THE IDEA
OF INCLUSION AND DIVERSITY, IT
WAS A RESPONSE TO THE TRAVEL
BAN.
OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, WE
CONTINUE TO STEP OUT AND
INCONSISTENT WITH OUR CORE
MISSION OF ALLOWING ANYONE TO
BELONG ANYWHERE.
THIS AD THAT WE RAN --
Tucker: THAT'S NOT YOUR
CORE MISSION.
YOUR CORE MISSION IS TO MAKE
MONEY.
[LAUGHS]
ARE YOU A CHURCH NOW?
IT EXTOLS THE VIRTUES OF SOME
WONDERFUL PEOPLE.
Tucker: BECAUSE YOU ARE
VIRTUOUS AND YOU ARE NOT IN
THOSE TO GET RICH.
I DOUBT YOU TAKE A SALARY FROM
AIRBNB, JUST THE MORAL
SATISFACTION.
LET ME ASK YOU, TUCKER --
Tucker: [LAUGHS]
HILARIOUS.
HOW MUCH DO THE HOSTS MAKE ON
EACH TRANSACTION?
Tucker:E I'M NOT ATTACKING
AIRBNB.
YOU ARE.
Tucker: I'M ATTACKING YOUR
MISCHARACTERIZATION OF IT AS A
MISSIONARY ORGANIZATION.
I THINK YOU'RE MISSING THE
POINT.
Tucker: IN ALLKI SERIOUSNESS,
THE POINT IS CLEAR, WE ARE A
VIRTUOUS COMPANY, WE ACCEPT, IN
CONTRAST TO THE BIGOTED
PRESIDENT, WHO SEEKS TO EXCLUDE,
WE ARE GOOD, HE'S EVIL, SPEND
MONEY WITH US.
I MERELY ASKING YOU A COMMERCIAL
QUESTION, IS THAT A GOOD PLAY
FOR YOU, TO SAY, WE ARE THE
VIRTUOUS COMPANY, WE ARE NOT IN
US WHERE THE MONEY, WE ARE JUST
REALLY GOOD PEOPLE?
THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.
THERE'S A REASON YOU ARE NOT
WRITING AD SCRIPTS BECAUSE THAT
IS NOT WHAT THE AD SAYS.
IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO LOOKWR
AT WHAT THE AD SAYS.
WHAT ARE THE ADS THEY SAY?
THE AD SAID THERE IS SOME
BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE AND BEAUTIFUL
PLACES.
ULTIMATELY, WHAT YOU COME BACK
TO IS WHAT IS OUR MISSION?
THE MISSION IS TO ALLOW ANYONE
TO BELONG ANYWHERE.
Tucker: LET'S GET SPECIFIC.OP
I GET IT.
TO TAKE PEOPLE OFF-LINE,
ONLINE AND CONNECT THEM OFF-LINE
FROM DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS.
Tucker: AND ALSO MAKE
BILLIONS.
THAT'S GREAT.
I'M JUSTUS SAYING, YOU, AND THIS
OUTCOME I SAY, COME TO HAITI.
HOLD ON.
SERIOUS QUESTION.
HAVE YOU WALKED WITHOUT
PRODUCTION THROUGH DOWNTOWN
PORT-AU-PRINCE RECENTLY AND IF
SO, HOW DID IT GO?
I SPENT A COUPLE OF NIGHTS IN
A TOWNSHIP IN SOUTH AFRICA
OUTSIDE OF CAPE TOWN.
Tucker: [LAUGHS]
HOLD ON.
HAVE YOU BEEN TO THOSE
PLACES?
Tucker: YES, I HAVE.
HAVE YOU SPENT THE NIGHT AND
SOME OF THESE TOWNSHIPS?
Tucker: CHRIS, YOU CAN'T Y
FILIBUSTER.
YOU HAVEOU TO JUST -- LET'S BE
POLITE AND ANSWER SIMPLE
QUESTIONS.
I'M GLAD YOU INDICATE CAPE TOWN,
THE BRIDGES PLACED ON THE
CONTINENT OF AFRICA.
I KNOW A FAIR AMOUNT ABOUT
PORT-AU-PRINCE, AND I'M TELLING
YOU IS A VERY DANGEROUS PLACE.
IS IT IMMORAL, BIGOTED, TO
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT NOT EVERYWHERE
IN THE WORLD IS THE SAME AND
SOME PLACES ARE REALLY DANGEROUS
IN SOME PLACES AREN'T?
IS THAT OKAY OR IS THAT A
SPECIES U OF BIGOTRY?
I THINK WHAT IS WRONG IS TO
CAST ASPERSIONS ON AN ENTIRE
PEOPLE AND AN ENTIRE COUNTRY.
I THINK THE BEST WAY, AND ALL
THE DATA SUPPORTS THIS.PO
THE BEST WAY TO BREAK DOWN
DIFFERENCES IS TO HAVE PEOPLE
FROM DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS SPEND
TIME WITH ONE ANOTHER.
NOT TO CRITICIZE THEM, NOT TO
CONDEMN THEM, BUT ACTUALLY FOR
PEOPLE TO SPEND TIME WITH ONE
ANOTHER.
Tucker: HOLD ON.
YOU PLEDGE TO PERSONALLY COME UP
WITH YOUR FAMILY, GO ON VACATION IN
HAITI, NOT AT SOME RETRIEVAL
RESORT, BUT IN DOWNTOWN
PORT-AU-PRINCE, THE CAPITAL
CITY, AND SPEND A NIGHT, TO GET
THE CROSS-CULTURAL POLORIZATION
THAT IS SO IMPORTANT?
TELL ME WHATZA KIND OF TIME YOU
HAD WHEN YOU COME BACK.
TUCKER, FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU
WANT TO TALK ABOUT MY FAMILY, I
AM HAPPY TO.
MY GUESS IS MY FAMILY MIGHT HAVE
A LITTLE BIT MORE DIVERSITY
Tucker: I'M NOT ATTACKING
YOUR FAMILY.
I'M TALKING ABOUT
PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI.
IT'S A DANGEROUSr: CITY.
I'M NOT ATTACKING YOUR FAMILY.
I'M JUST SAYING --
Tucker: I'M NOT ATTACKING
YOUR FAMILY.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO ANSWER
THE QUESTION?
THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION, WE
ARE PLANNING A TRIP TO AFRICA
AND WE ARE GOING TO SOME OF
THESE TOWNSHIPS THAT I TALKED
ABOUT.
Tucker: YOU'LL BE SURPRISED
TO LEARN THAT HAITI IS NOT IN
AFRICA.
I HOPE THAT OCCURS SOMETIME IN
YOUR TRIP.
YOUR QUESTION IS GETTING AT
RATHER ARE YOU IN MY FAMILY ARE
WILLING TO TRAVEL TO PLACES IN
THE WORLD THAT PEOPLE TYPICALLY
DO P NOT TRAVEL TO.
Tucker: THAT'S NOT MY
QUESTION.
MY QUESTION IS ARE YOU GOING TO
PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI,?
NOT SOME FOR A PLACE?
SPEAK IT WHEN I AM HAPPY TO TAKE
MY FAMILY AND THESE TYPES OF PLACES IN
MY PAST.
I ACTUALLY DO BELIEVE IN WHAT
OUR PLATFORM IS TRYING TO DO,
WHICH IS TO TAKE PEOPLE FROM
DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS, CONNECT
THEM FROM DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS.
NOW I GET THAT YOU MAY NOT --
Tucker: I'M JUST WONDERING,
DID YOU GET ORDAINED BEFORE YOU
GOT THIS JOB?
[LAUGHS]
I LOVE IT, I LOVE GETTING
LECTURES!
YOU DIDN'T ASK ME THESE
QUESTIONS WHEN WE RAN THE AD
DURING FOX ON THE SUPER BOWL.
WHY DIDN'T USC'S LAST YEAR?
Tucker: I DON'T KNOW.
PROBABLY SOME SINISTER REASON.
I DIDN'T SEE THE SPOT.
I APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT
TONIGHT.
THANKS.
PRESIDENT TRUMP TOUT OF THERE
STATE OF THE T ECONOMY LAST NIGHT,
THE DEBATE RAGES OVER WHETHER HE
DESERVES CREDIT FOR THAT, AND
IF SO, HOW MUCH.
WE HAVE A TECH OWNER, HEAD OF
Tucker: THE PRESIDENT SPENT
A BIG CHUNK OF HIS SPEECH
TOUTING THE ECONOMY.
THE STOCK MARKET IS AT ALL-TIME
HIGHS, ALL OF US ARE AWARE OF
THAT.
OF THE WRECK OF THE NEW TAX
BILL, APPLE AND OTHER COMPANIES
HAVE ANNOUNCED PLANS TO
REPATRIATE BILLIONS IN OVERSEAS
EARNINGS AND BRING THEM BACK
HERE.
ARE THE SIGNS AS GOOD AS THE
PRESIDENT SAYS AND IF THEY ARE,
DOESF HE DESERVE CREDIT FOR THEM?
THE FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT OF
Overstock.com, AUSTAN GOOLSBEE
IS A PROFESSOR AT UNIVERSITY OF
CHICAGO'S SCHOOL OF BUSINESS,
ONE OF PRESIDENT OBAMA'S
ECONOMIC ADVISORS MAY JOIN US
TONIGHT.
THANK YOU, BOTH, FOR COMING ON.
PATRICK, YOU RUN A BIG BUSINESS,
A BUSINESS YOU START THAT, YOU
ARE IN A PRETTY GOOD PLACE TO
ASSESS THES EFFECT OF THESE
ECONOMIC POLICIES ON BUSINESS. I
HOW HAS IT BEEN?
SPEAK OF IT'S DEFINITELY BEEN
POSITIVE.
IT'S BEEN POSITIVE AT A NUMBER
OF WAYS.
THE TAX BECOME A PART OF THE
ECONOMY IS THE ANIMAL SPIRIT
UNCERTAINLY, I WOULD SAY THE
PRESIDENT HAS BEEN VERY GOOD FOR
THEL ANIMAL SPIRIT OF THE
ECONOMY.
IN ADDITION TO TAX RELIEF IS
OVERDUE, AND NECESSARY, AND
SOMETHING THAT GETS OVERLOOKED
AS FAR AS THELO ECONOMY IS THE
PEARL RULE OF LAW, HE BASICALLY
WENT TO THE FEDERALIST SOCIETY
IS WHAT WE READ IN THE PAPER AND
HE GOT THEM TO SUGGEST TO THE
FEDERAL JUDGES THAT I SHOULD
APPOINT, AND THAT IS A VERY GOOD
FOR THE ECONOMY.
Tucker: AUSTIN AUSTAN, A MAN
RUNNING THIS MULTIBILLION DOLLAR
COMPANY SAYING THESE POLICIES
HAVE HELPED HIS COMPANY, ISN'T
THAT THE ACID TEST?
I BELIEVE DONALD TRUMP
DESERVES SOME CREDIT FOR THE
ECONOMY.
I BELIEVE THATAT THE OBJECTION WAS
THE TRYING TO TAKE 100% OF THE
CREDIT FOR THE ECONOMY, AND THAT
IS WHERE WE DISAGREE.
SO IF YOU TAKE THE BLACK
UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IN THE
UNITED STATES, IT IS AT RECORD
LOWS.
IT IS STILL EIGHT PERCENTAGE
POINTS UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA, IT
HAS FALLEN ANOTHER ONE
PERCENTAGE POINT UNDER
DONALD TRUMP.
I THINK DONALD THINK
DONALD TRUMP DESERVES SOME
CREDIT AND IN THE TAX PLAN,
THERE ARE CERTAINLY THINGS THAT
GAVE LARGE AMOUNTS OF TAX
CUTTING 22 CORPORATIONS AND THEY
ARE QUITE HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
AND I HOPE THAT THAT WILL LEAD
TO HIGHER GROWTH IN THE ECONOMY.
I WANT THAT TO BE TRUE.
BUT I THINK IT'S A LITTLE -- I
DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CORRECT WORD
IS -- MAYBE INCONSIDERATE FOR
THE PRESIDENT IN THE STATE OF
THE UNION TO TRYPR TO PRETEND LIKE
HE DID IT ALL AND I THINK THE
FACT THAT 60% OF THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE CREDIT PRESIDENT OBAMA
FOR THEIR STRONG ECONOMY, AND
35% --
Tucker: THERE IS NO DOUBT
THAT PEOPLE ARE GRATEFUL FOR
PRESIDENT OBAMA.
PATRICK, THE IMMIGRATION
QUESTION IS ONE THAT IS OFTEN
DISCUSSED IN ECONOMICAT TERMS IN
THE IDEA IS THAT IF YOU DON'T
HAVE MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF
PEOPLE WITH LESS THAN A
HIGH SCHOOL EDUCATION COMING
INTO YOUR COUNTRY, AT ALL TIMES,
THEN YOUR ECONOMY WILL COLLAPSE.
IS THAT YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON IT?
NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
I THINK THAT MILTON FRIEDMAN PUT
IT CORRECTLY, THAT WE HAVE TO AT
SOME POINT CHOOSE BETWEEN HAVING
OPEN BORDERS ARE HAVING A SOCIAL
SAFETY NET.
HERE IS A PURE LIBERTARIAN,
WOULD HAVE FAVORED OPEN BORDERS.
I THINK THE GOVERNMENT HAS A
RESPONSIBILITY, CONSENT OF THE
GOVERNED, AND I THINK THE
GOVERNMENT WANT THE GOVERNMENT
TO LOOK OUT FOR THEM AND NOT FOR
THE WHOLE WORLD.
AT SOME POINT, WE HAVE TO
RECOGNIZE THAT NOT ONLY DOES IT
STRESS THE SOCIAL SAFETY NET BUT
IT PROVIDES A LOT OF COMPETITION
FOR LESS SKILLED WORKERS, WHICH
IS -- AND SO BY SLOWING THE DASH
WHAT I REALLY TAKE SOME OFFENSE
THAT, THOUGH, IS THE IDEA -- I
GOT TO FOLLOW THE LAW, YOU AND I
HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAW, SO LET'S
START WITH THE PREMISE THAT WE
ALL AGREE WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE
LAW AND THEN WE CAN AGREE WHAT
IT IS BUT THERE SEEM TO BE
PEOPLEBU SUGGESTING IN THE
CONVERSATION THAT WE DON'T -- WE
CAN BE FUZZY ABOUT THE LAW.
IF THEY CAN BE FUZZY, CANNOT BE
FUZZY ABOUT IT?
Tucker: THAT'S A GREAT
QUESTION, I WANT TO PUT IT TO
AUSTAN GOOLSBEE,TI WHO I THINK IS
A LAW-ABIDING PARTY.
WE ARE HEARINGR YOUR PARTY SAY,
NOT JUST SAY COME BY SHOCK, BUT
THEY ARE SAYING THERE ARE SOME
POLITICAL BENEFIT TO HAVING
A
PERSON BREAKING THE LAW,
THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF
EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE
THEY CAN BE PUNISHED FOR OBEYING
THE LAW?
DOES THAT APPLY TO YOU AND ME OR
THE ILLEGAL ALIENS?
I THINK YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE
TAKING TO AN EXTREME AND NOT
PORTRAYING ACCURATELY --
Tucker: I DON'T THINK SO.
IN THE CASE OF THE DREAM ACT
KIDS, THEY WERE BROUGHT HERE AS
SMALL CHILDREN, AND SO IN THE
SAME WAYKI THAT IF THERE IS A KID
IN A CAR SEAT IN THE BACKSEAT
AND THE PARENT IS SPEEDING,
TECHNICALLY, THE CHILD IS
BREAKING THE LAW BECAUSE THEY
ARE SPEEDING.
BUT THEY AREN'T THE ONES WHO ARE
AT FAULT AND THAT IS THE ROOT OF
THE DISAGREEMENT.
Tucker: IT'S NOT, IF I CAN
EXTEND A TECHNOLOGY, THOUGH.
WE ARE TAKING OFF THE TABLE THE
IDEA PUNISHING THE PARENTS WHO
ARE CONSENTING ADULTS, WHO
SETTLED US WITH THIS PROBLEM
OTHER CHILDREN, IT IS A PROBLEM,
AND THEY ARE NOT BEING PUNISHED
EITHER.
THE ARE GETTING AMNESTY COME
TOO.
THE QUESTION ABOUT DACA WAS
NOT ABOUT THE PARENTS, IT'S
ABOUT THE KIDS, AND WHAT THE
PRESIDENT OUTLINED IN HIS
ORIGINAL IMMIGRATION POLICY WAS
ONE THAT A LOT OF AMERICANS
AGREED WITH, WHICH IS THAT HE
WAS GOING TO START BY DEPORTING
THE "BAD HOMBRES" AND VIOLENT
CRIMINALS.
WHAT WE HAVE SEEN OVER THE FIRST
YEAR IN OFFICE IS THAT NOT WHAT
HE DID AT ALL.
THEY ARE FINDING DOCTORS AND
PEOPLE THAT ARE PROFESSIONALS
AND PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE
FOR 40 YEARS, AND JUST DO NOT
BANG THE BUCK BASIS, IT STRIKES
ME AS AN ODD WAY TO GO ABOUT IT.
SPEAK Tucker: COME PATRICK,
REALLY QUICK, IF YOU COULD
DISOBEY A LAW, WHAT WOULD IT BE
AND WHAT WOULD YOUR EXCUSE BE L
THAT WOULD SATISFY THE LEFT?
THERE WOULD BE NONE.
I HAVE MET AUSTAN, I HAVE
RESPECT FOR AUSTAN.N.
THIS IS AMERICA, WE ARE NOT
GOING TO GO ROUND UP 11 MILLION
PEOPLE.
I AM NOT IN THAT CAMP.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO GO DO THAT.
THERE HAS TO BE SOME PATH OFH
FORGIVENESS TO SEDITIOUS CITIZENSHIP AND
STUFF.
AND I THINK THAT TRUMP TOOK A
VERY CONSTRUCTIVE STEP FORWARD.
JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT.
I THOUGHT THE SPEECH WAS GREAT.
AND I DON'T SUPPORT TRON.
I DID NOT VOTE FOR HIM.
Tucker: HE'S WINNING OVER
ONEVE EXECUTIVE.
THANK YOU BOTH FOR COMING ON.
HILLARY CLINTON TRIED TO SOLVE
HER #MeToo CRISIS IN HIS
FLOWERED INTO A CRISIS.OO
LAST NIGHT, WHILE NO ONE WAS
LOOKING, NOW, EVEN LONGTIME
ALLIES ARE TURNING ON HER.
KIND OF A BIG DEVELOPMENT,
THAT'S NEXT.
♪ ♪
Tucker: A LOT OF PEOPLE
WERE WATCHING THE STATE OF THE
UNION LAST NIGHT.
THAT MADE IT A PERFECT TIME TO
PUT ON COMFORTABLE NEWS THE
MEDIA BLOODSTREAM.
THE PERFECT TIME IF YOU ARE S
HILLARY CLINTON.
JUST A FEW MINUTES BEFORE
PRESIDENT TRUMP STARTED TALKING
LAST NIGHT, HILLARY CLINTON
PUBLISHED A LENGTHY NOTE ON HER
FACEBOOK PAGE DEFENDING HER
INTERVENTION TO PROTECT BURNS
STRIDER AFTER HE SEXUALLY
HARASSED A MEMBER OF HER
CAMPAIGN TEAM.
"WASHINGTON POST" WRITER ALYSSA
ROSENBERG ANNOUNCED SHE "WAS
DONE WITH HILLARY CLINTON."
TAMMY BRUCE IS A NEW YORK RADIO
HOST ENTRY JOINS US TO ASSESS
THE STATE OF HILLARY CLINTON IN
THE #MeToo MOMENT.
TAMMY, NICE TO SEE YOU.
WHAT DID YOU THINK OF HER
EXPLANATION LAST NIGHT?
IT SOUNDED TO ME LIKE SHE
PROBABLY THOUGHT THIS WAS HER
STATE OF THE UNIONR ADDRESS TO BE
DELIVERING ANGIE BROKE INTO THE
CHARDONNAY CABINET AND THE REST
IS HISTORY.
IT WAS WAY TOO LONG --
Tucker: DRUNK FACEBOOK PAGE
FOR CALISTA WANT TO FACEBOOK,
WANTING TO MAKE IT ABOUT HER,
REALIZING THAT SHE'D BEEN
EXPOSED FOR BEING A FRAUD THAT
SHE IS.
THIS IS THE IRONY ABOUT
HILLARY CLINTON.
MY FAVORITE PART OF THIS THING,
AND SHE NEVER REALLY APOLOGIZED
FOR WHAT SHECL DID, WHICH WAS
SHIELDING THIS MAN AND
DISRUPTING THE WORK LIFE OF THE
WOMAN WHO WAS THE TARGET.
SHE WROTE IN PART, "I DID THIS
BECAUSE I DIDN'T THINK FIRING
HIM WAS THE BEST SOLUTION TO THE
PROBLEM.
HE NEEDED TO BE PUNISHED,
CHANGES BEHAVIOR, AND UNDERSTAND
WHY HIS ACTIONS WERE WRONG.
II THOUGHT THIS COULD HAPPEN
WITHOUT HIM LOSING HIS JOB.
TUCKER, SHE'S TALKING ABOUT HER
HUSBAND.
THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH
HILLARY CLINTON IS THAT IN ORDER
TO BE ABLE TO REACT TO SEXUAL
HARASSMENT OR PREDATORY
SITUATION, APPROPRIATELY THESE
DAYS, SHE WOULD HAVE TO ADMIT
THAT EVERYTHING SHE HAS DONE IN
THE PAST HAS BEEN WRONG.
AND SHE CAN'T DO IT.
SO HILLARY, AND I'M GLAD THAT
THESE WOMEN ARE REALIZING IT,
HILLARY HAS BEEN THE A LAST PERSON
I CAN RELY ON AS REALLY THE ICON
FOR ENABLERS, AND NOW THAT IT IS
FINALLY CATCHING UP TO HER.
Tucker: WHAT IS SO
INTERESTING, I THINK MOST PEOPLE
WOULD GIVE HILLARY A PASS ON HER
HUSBAND, AS YOU DO UNCOMPLICATED
PERSONAL SITUATIONS.
SHE SAID SHE WOULDN'T WEIGH IN
ON THIS, I HAVE INCONSISTENCIES
IN MY PERSONAL LIFE, I WANT TO
IMPOSE MY VIEWS ON YOU, BUT
INSTEAD SHE LECTURES EVERYBODY
ELSE OF THE MOST HYPOCRITICAL
WAY.
WHY DID SHE DO THAT?
SHE DID GET INVOLVED, THOUGH,
WHEN IT CAME TO SMEARING THE
WOMEN.
Tucker: SHE DID, THAT'S
RIGHT.
IN THE 2008 CAMPAIGN AND '16,
SHE S PRESENTED HERSELF AS THIS
POSITION OF ELECT A WOMAN
BECAUSE A WOMAN WILL GOVERN
DIFFERENTLY, A WOMAN WILL NOT DO
THESE THINGS THATOM MEN DO, AND
THAT IS ALWAYS BEEN UNTRUE.
MY POSITION AS A FEMINIST IS
THAT WOMEN DO EVERYTHING MEN CAN
DO AND THAT WE NEED TO BE IN
MORE POSITIONS OF POWER BUT THIS
IS AN ISSUE OF CHARACTER, NOT AN
ISSUE OF GENDER, AND MAY BE
HILLARY CLINTON WILL DO
SOMETHING THAT'S GOOD JUST BY
HER HISTORY, WHICH IS PROVED TO
US THAT WOMEN ARE LIKE MEN, THAT
WE HAVE THE SAME CHALLENGES, AND
THAT WHEN WE DO HAVE POWER,
WE'VE GOT TO KEEP A CHECK IN
OURSELVES AND MAKE SURE THAT WE
STAY TRUE TO OUR PRINCIPLES.
HILLARY CLINTON HAS NOT IN ANY
OF THAT.
Tucker: THAT'SS A REALLY
DEEP POINT AND A SMART ONE.
WE ARE ALL HUMAN.
THANK YOU, TAMMY.
HERE'S THE LIST, LYNCHINGS,
CROSS BURNINGS, YOGA.
ONE PROFESSOR SAYS THAT YOGA IS
BUILT ON A BEDROCK OF RACISM.
YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
♪ ♪
Tucker: ENJOY YOGA?
PLEASE STOP.
YOU ARE PROMOTING WHITE
SUPREMACY.
A PROFESSOR OF RELIGIOUS STUDIES
AT MICHIGAN STATE ARGUED THAT
"THE EXPLOSION OF YOGA STUDIOS,
YOGA VIDEO APPS, YOGA PANTS, AND
OTHER YOGA SWAG OVER THE PAST
TWO DECADES IS EVIDENCE -- YOU
GUESSED IT -- OF SYSTEMIC RACISM
BUILT ON THE LABOR OF BLACK
PEOPLE AND PEOPLE OF THE GLOBAL
SOUTH."
THE FOUNDING PUBLISHER OF
CATALINA MAGAZINE, MORE THAN
THAT, SHE IS OUR GUIDE TO THE
CHANGING LANDSCAPE OF 2018 AND
THE DEEPEST RECESSES OF THE
LUNATIC LEFT.
WE ARE GLAD TO SEE YOU AS
ALWAYS, KATHY.
SO YOGA IS RACIST?
HOW IS THAT?
ACCORDING TO THIS ARTICLE,
MANY WHITE PEOPLE WHO DO YOGA,
AND IS MOSTLY WHITE PEOPLE WHO
DO YOGA, FEW OF THEM UNDERSTAND
THE CULTURE, THE HISTORY, AND
THE RELIGION BEHIND YOGAIN AND
THEY ARE SIMPLY ENJOYING IT FOR
THE PHYSICAL ASPECTS OF IT, SO
THEY ARE NOT UNDERSTANDING YOGA
ATHLETIC GOES BACK TO YOU.
THEY NEED TO IF THEY WANT TO
APPRECIATE IT, IF NOT, THEY ARE
SIMPLY GETTINGNG INTO THIS
VIEWPOINT OF WHITE SUPREMACY,
ACCORDING TO THIS PROFESSOR.
Tucker: SO IF YOGA IS
RACIST, HIS HOT YOGA MORE RACIST
OR LESS?
[LAUGHS]
ALL WESTERN YOGA IS RACIST
ACCORDING TO THIS AUTHOR,
ACCORDING TO THIS PROFESSOR.
ALL WESTERN YOGA.
YOGA THAT IS PRACTICED IN INDIA
HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OLDER
THAT IS PRACTICED IN THE WESTERN
WORLD.
Tucker: WHAT ABOUT PILATES?
ARE THOUGH SAFE?
PILATES WAS NOT DISCUSSED IN
THE ARTICLE.
IT IS WESTERN YOGA AS A WHOLE
BEING PRACTICED BY WHITE PEOPLE,
WHITE WOMEN, UPPER-CLASS,
MIDDLE-CLASS PEOPLE, NOT
MINORITIES, NOT LATINOS OR
IMMIGRANTS.
THIS IS A WHITE SPORT, A WHITE
ACTIVITY.
Tucker: THAT, RIGHT THERE,
IS SUSPECT.
CALL THE POLICE.
WHAT ABOUT TAE KWON DO?
BY THESE STANDARDS, THAT MIGHT
BE BANNED, RIGHT?
BY THIS AUTHOR STANDARDS,
PERHAPS.
SHE REALLY HAS A PROBLEM WITH
YOGA IN INDUSTRIAL -- YOGA
INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX.
THAT IS WHAT SHE CALLED IT.
THE YOGA INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX.
Tucker: IF IT'S WRONG FOR
PEOPLE IN THE WEST TO PRACTICE
YOGA, IS IT WRONG FOR PEOPLE AND
THE REST OF THE ROAD TO USE THE
INTERNET, WHICH WAS CREATED
HERE?
PART OF OUR CULTURAL LEGACY?
I THINK WE UNDERSTAND THE
CULTURE OF THE INTERNET AND IT
DOESN'T GO BACK TO THE BRITISH
COLONIZING INDIA AND WITH THE
INDIANS HADD TO DO TO INTRODUCE
THEM TO YOGA AND SHOW THEM THEIR
CULTURE WAS INTELLIGENT, THAT
WAS PART OF THE YOGA MOVEMENT
AND THAT IS HOW IT CAME TO THE
UNITED STATES IN THE 19 THE 20TH
CENTURY.
THE INTERNET WOULD NOT.
Tucker: WHAT ABOUT
DEMOCRACY?
THAT WAS INVENTED BY THE GREEKS
IN THE WEST, THE BASIS OF
WESTERN CIVILIZATION LYNN.
THEN AGAIN, NO.
YOGA WAS AWAY FOR THE INDIANS TO
SHOW THEIR COLONIZERS THAT THEY
WERE INTELLIGENT AND THEY HAD
THIS WONDERFUL --
Tucker: WHERE DO YOU READ
YOUR HISTORY?
YOGA PREDATES THE BRITISH BY
QUITE A BIT.
I JUST WANT -- I'M INTERESTED,
HOW MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE INTO
YOGA IN THE UNITED STATES, DO
YOU THINK, VOTED FOR
DONALD TRUMP?
OH, ARTICLE DIDN'T TOUCH UPON
THAT.
Tucker: S AS SOMEONE WHO IS
VERY FAMILIAR WITH NONTRUMP
VOTERS, WOULD YOU SAY MAY BE 1%
OF PEOPLE WHO PRACTICE YOGA
VOTED TRUMP?
IS THAT YOU HIGH?
ACCORDING TO THE AUTHOR, MANY
MIDDLE AND UPPER CLASS WHITE
WOMEN PRACTICE YOGA.
SOOS THOSE PEOPLE WHO FIT INTORY
THAT CATEGORY AND ARE TRUMP
SUPPORTERS VOTED FOR TRUMP.
Tucker: [LAUGHS]
ARE YOU STRUCK BY THE FACT THAT
THAT SERIES OF DESCRIPTORS,
UPPER-MIDDLE-CLASS, WHITE, THAT
IS THE WHOLE ARGUMENT ON THE
LEFT.
THAT IS JUST BAD BECAUSE
ANYTHING THAT HASN'T IS IN
SUPERIOR TO THAT.
ACCORDING TO THIS ARTICLE,
THOSE OF THE PEOPLE WHO PRACTICE
YOGA AND DO NOT UNDERSTAND
IMMIGRANTS AND MINORITIES AND
WHAT THEY ARE GOING THROUGH AND
PERHAPS HAVE MORE PRIVILEGE AND
ARE ABLE TO EXPERIENCE YOGA ANDNG
OTHER THINGS THAT OTHER GROUPS
CANNOT EXPERIENCE.
Tucker:AS LAST QUESTION.
IF, IN A MULTICULTURAL SOCIETY,
WHICH WE LIVE IN, AND I AM FOR
THE BASIC B PRINCIPLE, WHICH IS
THEIR ARTICLE THINGS OF OTHER
CULTURES ANDL YOU SHOULD ENJOY
THEM, WOUNDED THE RULES CHANGE?
WE LIVE IN A MULTICULTURAL
SOCIETY BUT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED
TO ENJOY COOL THINGS FROM OTHER
CULTURES OR IF YOU DO YOU HAVE
TO FEEL GUILTY ABOUT IT?
HOW DOES THAT WORK?
THE AUTHOR SAID BY NO MEANS
TO STOP DOING YOGA BUT IF YOU DO
IT, UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE ONLY
UNDERSTANDING AN EIGHTH OF IT,
THEY ARE SO MUCH MORE TO YOGA.
UNDERSTAND WHAT PEOPLE WANT
THROUGH TO INTRODUCE THIS TO YOU
FROM THEIR CULTURE TO YOUR
CULTURE,AN HAVE AN APPRECIATION,
DON'T JUST TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT
THAN BY THE YOGA GEAR AND TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF THIS WONDERFUL
TRADITION THAT WAS BROUGHT TO
YOU BY ANOTHER CULTURE.
Tucker: INTERESTING.
I HAVEN'T TESTED IT BUT I
SUSPECT DOWNWARD DOG IS HARDER
TO ENJOY IF YOU ARE HATING
YOURSELF WHILE YOU DO IT,
WOULDN'T YOU THINK?
I DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD
HATE THEMSELVES, THEY WOULD JUST
KNOW MORE ABOUT DOWNWARD DOG.
Tucker: MORE SELF-LOVE.
GREAT TO SEE YOU AS ALWAYS,
CATHY.
YOU REALLY ARE OUR SHERPA AND WE
APPRECIATE IT.
SORRY, SHERPA, DIFFERENT
The lowest prices.
♪ ♪
Tucker: THAT'S IT!
ANOTHER HOUR HAS SLIPPED THROUGH
OUR FINGERS.
TRYING TO BE THE VOICE OF
REASON, DOING OUR BEST, KIND OF
EXHAUSTING BUT FUN.
AND THAT IS IT FOR YOU TO KNOW
AND EVERY NIGHT AT 8:00 P.M. TO
THEIR SHOW THAT IS THE SWORN
ENEMY OF LYING, POMPOSITY,
SMUGNESS, AND ESPECIALLY OF
GROUPTHINK.
IN WHOSE CLUTCHES THIS COUNTRY
FINDS ITSELF.
BREAK FREE, THINK FOR YOURSELF
IF YOU CAN, DESPITE HOW THEY
ATTACK YOU, IT'S WORTH IT.
OF COURSE, DVR IT.