Liberty. Liberty ♪
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Tucker: GOOD EVENING, AND
WELCOME TO
"TUCKER CARLSON TONIGHT."
TONIGHT, THE NEWS KEEPS COMING.
THE PRESIDENT IS SCHEDULED TO
SPEAK TONIGHT AT A RALLY IN
MONTANA, ONE OF THE GREAT
STATES.
WE WILL TAKE YOU THERE LIVE AS
SOON AS HE DOES BEGIN.EA
IT GOT VERY HEATED AT
CAPITOL HILL TODAY, THE Y
CONFIRMATION HEARING FOR BRETT
KAVANAUGH, THAT HEARING IS STILLL
GOING ON AT THIS HOUR.
WE WILL SHOW YOU SOME OF THE
INTENSE ALTERCATIONS, INCLUDING H
ONE WITH SENATOR CORY BOOKER OF
NEW JERSEY, WHICH WAS AMAZING.
BUT FIRST, DONALD TRUMP HAS
COMPLAINED FOR MONTHS THAT THE
PERMANENT CLASS IN WASHINGTON IS
WORKING IN SECRET TO UNDERMINE
HIS PRESIDENCY.
VIRTUALLY EVERYONE IN
WASHINGTON THINKS THAT IS
HILARIOUS.
IT IS DELUSIONAL.
THE VERY FACT THAT TRUMP SAYS
STUFF LIKE THAT SAYS HE IS
PROBABLY MENTALLY ILL, AND NUTS.
THE GUY SITTING NEXT TO YOU ON
THE BUS BABBLING ABOUT THE
TRILATERAL CONDITION.
BUT SUDDENLY THEY ARE NOT SAYING
THAT ANYMORE.
WHY?
BECAUSE YESTERDAY AFTERNOON,
"THE NEW YORK TIMES" RAN AN
ANONYMOUS OP-ED THAT CONFIRMED
EVERY SINGLE ONE OFININ TRUMP'S
SUPPOSEDLY PARANOID CLAIMS.
AND MANY MORE.
EXECUTIVE BRANCH EMPLOYEES ARERE
IN FACT WORKING SECRETLY TO STOP
THE PRESIDENT'S AGENDA.
UNACCOUNTABLE FUNCTIONARIES ARE
ACTUALLY CONDUCTING AGAINST HIM.
IT IS ALL REAL.
SO HOW DID WASHINGTON RESPOND TO
THE NEWS THAT TRUMP WAS RIGHT?
BY CALLING FOR HIM TO BE REMOVED
FROM OFFICE WITHOUT AN ELECTION.
HERE IS THAT SENATOR ELIZABETH
WARREN OF MASSACHUSETTS.
IF SENIOR ADMINISTRATIVE
OFFICIALS THINK THAT THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
IS UNABLE TO DO HIS JOB, THEN
THEY SHOULD INVOKE THE 25TH
AMENDMENT.
Tucker: IN AN INTERVIEW
WITH CNN LAST NIGHT, FORMER
SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN KERRY
SEEMED TO AGREE.
HE ANNOUNCED THAT AMERICA IS INN
THE MIDST OF A FULL-BLOWN
CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS.
THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE.
THIS IS A PRESIDENCY.
THIS IS A GENUINE CONSTITUTIONAL
CRISIS.
Tucker: FOR ONCE,
JOHN KERRY IS RIGHT.
IT IS UNBELIEVABLE.
IT IS A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS.
BUT NOT FOR THE REASONS HE
THINKS.
AMERICA IS A CONSTITUTIONAL
DEMOCRACY.
THE CENTRAL PRINCIPLE OF OUR
SYSTEM IS THAT VOTERS RULE.
VOTERS ELECT POLITICIANS TO DO
THEIR WILL.
POLITICIANS LISTEN TO VOTERS,E.
GET TO KEEP THEIR JOBS, THOSE
WHO DO NOT LISTEN GET FIRED.
ELECTIONS MAKE OUR SYSTEM
ACCOUNTABLE.E. J
VOTERS GET TO DECIDE WHO IS IN
CHARGE BECAUSE ULTIMATELY VOTERS
THEMSELVES ARE IN CHARGE.CI
THAT IS WHY UNDER OUR
CONSTITUTION, THE CHEAP
DECISION-MAKERS ARE POLITICIANS,
THEY ARE ELECTED.DE
IN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OF
GOVERNMENT, ALL POWER DERIVES
FROM THE PRESIDENT.
HE AND THE VICE PRESIDENT ARE
THE ONLY ONES IN THE BUILDING
WHO HAVE BEEN INSTALLED BY
VOTERS.
NO ONE ELSE HAS.S
SO WHEN AN EXECUTIVE BRANCH
EMPLOYEE SUBVERTS THE PRESIDENT,
HE IS SUBVERTING THE WILL OF
VOTERS AND THEREFORE THE
CONSTITUTION.
THAT USED TO BE OBVIOUS, THIS IS
NOT SOME CRAZY NEW LEGAL THEORY.
IT IS THE BASIS OF OUR
DEMOCRACY.
AND NOW IT IS CRUMBLING.
TRUMP WON BECAUSE HE PROMISED TO
DO THINGS THAT OTHER POLITICIANSNS
HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO BUT FAILED
TO DO.
HE PLEDGED TO KEEP THE
UNITED STATES OUT OF POINTLESS
WARS, TO PROTECT OUR BORDERS,
AND TO RENEGOTIATE OUR TRADE
DEALS.
VOTERS WANTED THESE THINGS.
THEY SAID SO ON ELECTION DAY.
PROMINENT WASHINGTON DID NOT
WANT THESE THINGS.
SO GUESS WHO IS GETTING THEIR
WAY?
NOT VOTERS.
WHAT KIND OF GOVERNMENT IS THAT?
IT IS NOT A DEMOCRACY, IT IS
SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT.
IT IS A SYSTEM WHERE A SMALL
NUMBER OF PEOPLE YOU'VE NEVER
HEARD OF AND CANNOT FIRE MAKE
ALL OF THE KEY DECISIONS AND
REAP MOST THE REWARDS.
IT IS AN OLIGARCHY, AND IT IS
NOT EVEN A STRAIGHTFORWARD
OLIGARCHY.
IF THE 500 SMARTEST, WISEST,
MOST DECENT PEOPLE IN AMERICA
SUDDENLY OVERTHREW OUR
GOVERNMENT AND TOOK OVER, THINGS
MIGHT ACTUALLY IMPROVE, WHO
KNOWS.LY
BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT IS
HAPPENING.VE
INSTEAD, THE ASSISTANT UNDER
SECRETARY OF GOD-KNOWS-WHAT HAS
DECIDED THAT HE IS THE
KING AND YOU ARE A MORON.
WE ARE DOING THINGS HIS WAY OR
ELSE.
BUT HE IS NOT EVEN ADMITTING
THAT HE IS DOING THAT.
HE HAS NOT HELD A PRESS
CONFERENCE TO ANNOUNCE HE IS IN
CHARGE.
INSTEAD, HE IS DOING IT ALL IN
SECRET, SURELY FOR HIS OWN
BENEFIT AND THAT HIS FRIENDS.
IF YOU CALL HIM ON IT, HE
SCREAMS THAT YOU ARE A RACIST
AND CANCELS YOUR TWITTER
ACCOUNT.
MEANWHILE, HE NEVER STOPS
LECTURING YOU ON HOW VITAL
DEMOCRACY IS AND HOW YOU ARE
SOMEHOW A THREAT TO DEMOCRACY.
THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT
NOW.
IT IS INFURIATING AND IT IS
WRONG.
A FEW MINUTES AGO WE SPOKE TO
CALIFORNIA CONGRESSMAN ERIC
SWALWELL ABOUT IT.
CONGRESSMAN, THANK YOU A LOT FOR
JOINING US TONIGHT.
YOU'VE GOT A STAFF IN
WASHINGTON, OF COURSE.
WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU FOUND
OUT THAT A MEMBER OF YOUR STAFF
WAS TRYING TO SUBVERT YOUR
POLICY GOALS?
TAKING MEMOS OFF YOUR DESK,
HIDING INFORMATION FROM YOU,
MAKING DECISIONS THAT YOU ARE
NOT APPROVED, LEAKING THAT
INFORMATION TO THE PRESS.
HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT?
THEY WOULD BE GONE, TUCKER.
THEY WOULD NOT BE WORKING FOR
ME, BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT I
WOULD HIRE PEOPLE WHO WOULD NOT
HAVE TO DO THAT.
Tucker: WHAT DO YOU MEAN
"HAVE TO DO THAT"?
IF YOU ARE ELECTED BY YOUR
CONSTITUENTS AND THE VOTERS IN
YOUR DISTRICT TO DO THE THINGS
THAT YOU RUN ON.
SO YOU SAY "I'M GOING TO DO
THIS" AND NOT EVERYONE AGREES
WITH THOSE OBJECTIVES, BUT THE
VOTERS WHO VOTED FOR YOU DID.
YOU GET ELECTED AND YOUR STAFF
SAYS "THAT IS UNWISE, THAT IS
WHAT THE VOTERS ELECTED HIM TO
DO, BUT WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT
VOTERS."
WE ARE GOING TO STOP THOSE
THINGS FROM HAPPENING.
WOULD THAT BE A DEMOCRATIC
PROCESS, WOULD YOU SAY?
IT IS NOT DEMOCRATIC.
I BELIEVE DONALD TRUMP WAS
ELECTED AS PRESIDENT AND WE
SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE WHO HE IS.
THE FACT THAT THESE AIDES ARE
GOING ROGUE, AND I DON'T THINK
THEY ARE PATRIOTIC AT ALL, I LAY
THAT BLAME SQUARELY AT THE FEET
OF CONGRESS.
THIS CONGRESS THAT HAS NOT
CHECKED THE PRESIDENT, AND NOW
WE ARE IN A POSITION WHERE WE
HAVE A NEW BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT:CH
THESE AIDES, WHO THINK THAT THEYIN
GET TO DECIDE WHAT IS RIGHT OR
WRONG, AND THEY PREVENT THE
PRESIDENT FROM DOING WHAT HE
WANTS TO DO, AND THAT PREVENTS
DEMOCRACY FROM WORKING AND TRULY
UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE INTENT
AND DIRECTIONS ARE OF THE
PRESIDENT.
THAT IS A PROBLEM.
Tucker: THAT IS THE
WEIRDEST TALKING POINT I'VE
HEARD OF, NOT SURE I FULLY
UNDERSTAND IT.
LET'S GET SPECIFIC.
"THE NEW YORK TIMES" OP-ED FROM
YESTERDAY AFTERNOON SAID THAT
THE PRESIDENT WAS ATTEMPTING OR
RESISTING EFFORTS TO INCREASE
THE SEVERITY OF SANCTIONS ON
RUSSIA.
I KNOW THAT YOU ARE FOR MORE
AGGRESSIVE SANCTIONS ON RUSSIA,
MANY PEOPLE ARE, BUT THE
PRESIDENT WAS ELECTED ON THE
OPPOSITE POSITION, WHICH IS WE
SHOULD NORMALIZE RELATIONS WITH
RUSSIA TO A GREATER EXTENT.
BY TAKING THAT POSITION, HE WAS
REPRESENTING THE WILL OF THE
PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR HIM.
AND YET HIS STAFF DID NOT AGREE,
SO THEY TRIED TO PREVENT THAT
FROM HAPPENING.
THAT RIGHT THERE IS DEMOCRACY
SHORT-CIRCUITED, ISN'T IT, BY
DEFINITION?
THE STAFF DOING THAT IS
ABSOLUTELY DEMOCRACY
SHORT-CIRCUITED.
I ALSO BELIEVE IN THE RULE OF
CHANGED CIRCUMSTANCES.
WE LEARNED AFTER THE ELECTION
THE FULL EXTENT OF WHAT RUSSIA
DID TO MEDDLE IN THE ELECTION,
SO CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE.
CONGRESS SHOULD HAVE FULLY
INTERVENED TO MAKE SURE THIS
PRESIDENT WAS CHECKED AND HIS
WORST INSTINCTS --
Tucker: YOU'RE MAKING A
SEPARATE POINT ABOUT WHAT SHOULD
HAPPEN IN CONGRESS, MAYBE IT IS
A FAIR POINT OR MAYBE IT IS NOT,
WE DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW THAT MUCH
ABOUT --
WE KNOW CONGRESS HAS DONE
ZERO.
Tucker: WE DID ACTUALLY
SANCTION RUSSIA.
THE POINT IS ABOUT THE PRESIDENT
AND THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH OF
GOVERNMENT.YUS
ALL POWER IN THE EXECUTIVE
BRANCH DERIVES FROM THE GUY WHO
IS ELECTED.
THERE ARE ONLY TWO PEOPLE IN THE
ENTIRE EXECUTIVE BRANCH.
MORE THAN 100,000 EMPLOYEES, TWO
PEOPLE ELECTED.
PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT.
SO ANYBODY SUBVERTING THE
DECISIONS OF THE PRESIDENT IS
SUBVERTING THE CONSTITUTION, BY
DEFINITION.
SO WHY ARE DEMOCRATS APPLAUDING
THIS? I
DON'T YOU WANT THE PRESIDENT TO
DO THE THINGS HE SAID HE WAS
GOING TO DO?
I AM NOT APPLAUDING THIS AT
ALL.
I ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT THE
PATRIOTIC THING TO DO IS COME
FORWARD AND RAISE YOUR RIGHT
HAND BEFORE A CONGRESSIONALO
COMMITTEE AND TELL THAT
COMMITTEE WHAT CONCERNS YOU.
IF YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN AT HOME
RIGHT NOW AND YOU FIND COMFORT
THAT AIDES ARE WORKING IN THIS
WAY TO PREVENT THE PRESIDENT
FROM ABUSING HIS POWER, YOU ARE
ON THE WAY TO ELECTING A
DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS.
BUT YOU SHOULD LET ELECTED
LEADERS CHECK THE PRESIDENT,
NOT HIS AIDES.
I SHARE THE SAME CONCERNS.
Tucker: LAST TIME I
CHECKED -- AND AGAIN, WHAT YOU
ARE DOING IS MAKING A
SOPHISTICATED ARGUMENT THAT
AGAIN I DO NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND.
GOD FORBID WE ARE
SOPHISTICATED HERE.
Tucker: MAY BE
SOPHISTICATED IS THE WRONG WORD.
CONFUSING ABOUT DEMOCRATS IN THE
UPCOMING MIDTERM ELECTION, I GET
THAT IS A PRIORITY FOR YOU.
I BELIEVE IN A CONSTITUTION
THAT WOULD CHECK THE PRESIDENT.
Tucker: I AM NOT SURE YOU
BELIEVE IN THE CONSTITUTION.
WHY DON'T YOU BELIEVE I
BELIEVE IN THE CONSTITUTION?
Tucker: I WILL TELL YOU WHY,
BECAUSE YOU ARE A MEMBER OF A
PARTY THAT IS
CALLING FOR REMOVING A
DULY-ELECTED PRESIDENT FROM
OFFICE WITHOUT AN ELECTION.
I AM NOT CALLING FOR THAT. '
Tucker: SO WHAT DO YOU MAKE
OF ELIZABETH WARREN CALLING FOR
THAT TODAY?
IN EFFECT, SAYING HIS AIDES DO
NOT LIKE HIM, WE NEED TO INVOKE
THE 25TH AMENDMENT AND REMOVE
HIM WITHOUT AN ELECTION.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
I THINK WE NEED TO INVOKE
DEMOCRACY.
WE WILL DO THAT IN 60 DAYS AND
WE WILL CONDUCT THE
INVESTIGATIONS THAT THE
REPUBLICANS HAVE BEEN UNWILLING
TOATNV CONDUCT.
AND FOLLOW THEYO EVIDENCE.
Tucker: FOR TWO YEARS
YOU'VE BEEN TELLING ME THAT
THERE IS EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION
THAT HAS STILL NOT --
I CAME ON YOUR SHOW AND
SHOWED YOU.
IF YOU WANT TO DO ANOTHER N
30 MINUTES I CAN COME ON YOUR
SHOW AGAIN.
Tucker: I DID NOT WANT TO
BE MEAN.
CALLING FOR REMOVING THE ELECTED
PRESIDENT --
THAT IS NOT WHAT SHE SAID.
Tucker: WE JUST PLAYED A
SOUND BITE SAYING THAT SHE SAID
THAT.
THE OP-ED ABOUT HIS STAFF IS
EVIDENCE THAT WE NEED TO REMOVE
HIM WITHOUT HAVING AN ELECTION.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT,
NOT JUST THE SENATOR FROM
MASSACHUSETTS.
I SPEAK FOR MYSELF, TUCKER.
Tucker: BUT IT IS YOUR
PARTY AND YOU ARE TELLING OUR
VIEWERS THAT THEY NEED TO VOTE
FOR YOUR PARTY IN 60 DAYS IN THE
ELECTION, BUT IN CASE YOU DID
NOT SEE IT, HERE IS THE
ELIZABETH WARREN SOUND BITE THAT
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT.T
IF SENIOR ADMINISTRATION
OFFICIALS THINK THAT THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATESWE
IS NOT ABLE TO DO HIS JOB, THEN
THEY SHOULD INVOKE THE 25TH
AMENDMENT.
Tucker: OKAY, SO IF
BUREAUCRATS ELECTED BY NOBODY
DISAGREE WITH THE POLICY GOALS B
THAT VOTERS RATIFIED IN THE LAST
ELECTION, THE PRESIDENT SHOULD
BE REMOVED WITHOUT AN ELECTION.
THAT IS WHAT SHE IS SAYING.
SHE IS REFERRING TO THE
CONSTITUTION.
THERE IS A REMEDY IN THE
CONSTITUTION IF THESE ANONYMOUS
AIDES BELIEVE THAT THIS IS OUT
THERE.
AND I AGREE.S
SHOW YOURSELF.
SHOW US THE EVIDENCE.
Tucker: BELIEVE THAT WHAT IS
OUT THERE?
THE OP-ED THAT I READ, AND
DOUBTLESS YOU READ, TOO, SAYS
THE PRESIDENT IS MERCURIAL AND
SAYS WILD THINGS, WHICH HE DOES
IN PUBLIC EVERY DAY.Y.
WE KNEW THAT.
THE GOVERNMENT IS STILL
FUNCTIONING.
TWO, THAT HE IS DOING THINGS THE
PERMANENT WASHINGTON CLASS DOES
NOT LIKE.
TOO NICE TO RUSSIA, AGAINST
FREE TRADE, WANTS TO SECURE
BORDERS.
THAT IS GROUNDS FOR REMOVAL
WITHOUT AN ELECTION?
TUCKER, I THINK IT MAYY
SURPRISE YOU, WE ARE MORE
ALIGNED ON THIS ISSUE THAN YOU
THINK.
I DON'T SUPPORT WHAT THESE
AIDES ARE DOING.
I THINK THE BEST WAY TO CHECK
THE PRESIDENT IS TO HAVE A
CONGRESS --
Tucker: I'M NOT TALKING
ABOUT THE AIDES.
I THINK WE ARE IN AGREEMENT
THERE.
YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO DISAGREE
WITH THE PRESIDENT, YOU DO NOT
HAVE A RIGHT TO SUBVERT THE
AUTHORITY.Y.
LET'S CONDUCT THE
INVESTIGATIONS --
Tucker: TALKING POINT,
TALKING POINT.
I WANT YOU TO COMMENT ON WHAT WE
JUST HEARD FROM ELIZABETH
WARREN..
WHAT WOULD BE THE GROUNDS --
SHE IS SAYING THEY SHOULD
COME FORWARD, AND I AGREE WITHTH
THAT.
SHOW THE EVIDENCE.
Tucker: WHAT EVIDENCE --
I DON'T KNOW.
IT WAS THE PRESIDENT'S
SENIOR OFFICIALS SAYING THE 25TH
AMENDMENT WAS BEING DISCUSSED.
THAT IS SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE
TO LEARN MORE ABOUT.
Tucker: IT IS SO FUNNY
BECAUSE --
I DON'T WANT A DANGER TO
NATIONAL SECURITY GOVERNING OUR
COUNTRY, SO WE SHOULD LEARN MORE
ABOUT THAT.
LET'S COLLECT THAT EVIDENCE.
I WANT LAWFUL INVESTIGATIONS AND
LET JUSTICE RUN ITS COURSE.
Tucker: SOUNDS LIKE YOU ARE
ENGAGED IN THAT.
CONGRESSMAN, THANK YOU. T
MICHAEL ANTON IS A LECTURER AT
HILLSDALE COLLEGE IN MICHIGAN.
HE IS A FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY
ADVISOR TO THE PRESIDENT.
HE JOINS US TONIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING
ON.
YOU WATCHED FOR THE PAST TWO
YEARS AS TRUMP HAS BEEN CALLED A
NUTCASE FOR SUGGESTING THAT
THERE IS A PERMANENT CLASS
AGAINST HIM IN THE DEEP STATE.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?
THE NARRATIVE IMMEDIATELY
SHIFTED FROM "THE PRESIDENT IS
CRAZY FOR SAYING THIS AND
BELIEVING IT, TO "THE PRESIDENT
HAS IT COMING, HE DESERVES THE
DEEP STATE UNDERMINING HIM."
ONE THING I FOUND NOTABLE --
MANY THINGS NOTABLE IN THE
OP-ED -- BUT ONE IS THAT THIS
PERSON, WHOEVER WROTE IT, CLAIMS
TO BE A POLITICAL APPOINTEE.RMS
WHEN THEY SAY DEEP STATE, PEOPLE
USUALLY MEAN THE -- WHOEVER GETS
ELECTED.
THIS IS WORSE.
THIS PERSON CLAIMS TO BE SOMEONE
WHO WAS APPOINTED BY THE
PRESIDENT, ONE OF THE PEOPLE
THAT COMES IN AS THE RESULT OF
AN ELECTION TO IMPLEMENT THE
WILL OF THE VOTERS AS EXPRESSED
IN THE ELECTION.
THIS PERSON HAS SAID "I AM TOO
SUBVERTING THAT, UNDERMINING
THAT DELIBERATELY."
I AGREE WITH YOU, THAT IS
FUNDAMENTALLY UNDEMOCRATIC.
Tucker: WHAT IS INTERESTING
IS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
THE SUBVERSION OF STANDARDS AND
NORMS, THE BLUE CHECK TWITTER C
IDIOT, "THE NORMS ARE GOINGRE
AWAY."
THE NORMS ARE CHANGING,
ACTUALLY.
THEY ARE DRIVING THE CHANGE IN
THOSE NORMS.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN, AS A
HISTORIAN, AS YOU ARE, WHAT DOES
THIS MEAN FOR FUTURE
ADMINISTRATIONS?
IS IT OKAY FOR THE UNELECTED TO
RUN THE GOVERNMENT?
THAT IS WHAT I AM WORRIED
ABOUT.
PERHAPS AS PENANCE FOR MY PAST
SINS I WAS SENT BOOKS BY
LIBERALS ALL SAYING THAT THE
PRESIDENT IS SUBVERTING
DEMOCRACY, AND WHAT I FOUND ISRA
THAT THE PURPOSE OF EACH BOOK IS
PREPOSTEROUS.
THEY'RE ALL WRITTEN BY PEOPLE
WHO HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS
THAT UNELECTED BUREAUCRATS
SHOULD TAKE OVER BECAUSE THEY
ARE SMARTER THAN US AND THAT
ADMINISTRATIVE STATE RULE IS IT
GREATER TO POLITICAL RULE.
THEY ARE SAYING IN THEIR BOOKS
THAT "DONALD TRUMP IS TRYING TO
SUBVERT DEMOCRACY," BUT HE HAS A
WON AN ELECTION.
THAT IS FREUDIAN PRODUCTION, AS
FAR AS I CAN TELL.
Tucker: WE ARE GOING TO
HAVE OTHER PRESIDENTS.
PRESUMABLY.
SO THE NEXT PRESIDENT IS A
DEMOCRAT, WHAT IS NOT GOING TO
BE LIKE?
IS IT OKAY IF YOU DO NOT LIKE
HIS POLICIES TO UNDERMINE HIM
FROM WITHIN?
THE NARRATIVE WILL SWITCH
JUST LIKE IT DID AFTER
"THE NEW YORK TIMES" OP-ED CAME
OUT.
IT ACCORDS WITH WHAT THE WISE
AND GOOD THINK, SO IT IS OKAY,
AND ILLEGITIMATE TO OPPOSE THEM.OR
EVEN DEMOCRATIC MEANS TO OPPOSE
THEM IS ILLEGITIMATE.
ONE THING I'VE LEARNED STUDYING
THE LEFT OVER MANY YEARS IS THEY
ARE ABLE AND CAPABLE OF TURNING
ON A DIME.
WHATEVER THE ARGUMENT THEY NEED
TO MAKE IN THE HERE AND NOW,
THEY WILL MAKE IT.
Tucker: IT IS ACTUALLY A
GOOD THING.
THEY ARE SCARY, THEY SHOULD NOT
BE NEAR POWER.
MICHAEL ANTON, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH.
IT IS ACTUALLY UPSETTING, THEY
ARE POWER-WORSHIPERS.
IT IS A NIGHT OF BIG NAMES ON
THIS PROGRAM.
DANA PERINO COMING UP, MARK
STEYN, ANN COULTER, ALL IN ONE
SHOW.
IT IS LIKE A SNICKERS BAR, A
LITTLE OF EVERYTHING AND IT ADDS
UP TO A GREAT SNACK.
PLUS, THE PRESIDENT IS SCHEDULED
TONIGHT IN BILLINGS, MONTANA.
WE'LL KEEP AN EYE ON THAT STAGE
AS WE AWAIT HIS REMARKS.
STAY TUNED.
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Tucker: 'S WE WERE JU
Tucker: SO WE WERE JUST
TALKING ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD BE
LIKE -- WHAT WILL IT BE LIKE, TO
BE MORE PRECISE -- TO LIVE IN AA
COUNTRY WHERE NO ELECTED
OFFICIAL, ELECTED OFFICIALS AT
THE HEART OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL
DEMOCRACY -- CAN CARRY OUT
POLICY, THE WILL OF VOTERS,
WITHOUT BEING UNDERMINED BY
PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT ELECTED.
THAT IS THE NEW PRECEDENT THAT
HAS JUST BEEN SET.
TO FIND OUT, WE WANT TO TALK TO
SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN AT THE VERY
HEART OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH,
LONGTIME PRESS SECRETARY FOR
GEORGE W. BUSH AND THE MOST
FAMOUS PERSON ON FOX. B
DANA ON "THE FIVE" EVERY DAY,
BUT HAS ACTUAL EXPERIENCE WITH
THIS.
YOU KNOW HOW COMPLEX IT IS TO
RUN AN EXECUTIVE BRANCH, YOU'VE
BEEN RIGHT THERE.
WHAT WILL IT BE LIKE GOING
FORWARD?
AS YOU WERE TALKING TO THE
TWO GENTLEMEN IN THE A BLOCK, IT
OCCURRED TO ME -- IF YOU THINK
BACK TO APRIL 2001,
PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH AT THE
TIME COMES IN AFTER THE RECOUNT,
REMEMBER, AND ALL THE STUFF IS
ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL THINGS.
ARSENIC IN THE WATER, FOR
EXAMPLE, COAL-FIRED POWER
PLANTS.
IN APRIL 2001, PRESIDENT BUSH
DECIDES TO PULL THE
UNITED STATES OUT OF THE KYOTO
PROTOCOL.
IT WAS BASICALLY ALL OF
PROFESSIONAL WASHINGTON AND EVEN
MANY PEOPLE IN THE PRESIDENT'S
CABINET THOUGHT THIS WAS A BAD
IDEA.
Tucker: I REMEMBER.
BUT THE PRESIDENT MADE THE
DECISION, THE VICE PRESIDENT
BACKED HIM ON IT, AND I DON'T
THINK ANYONE LOOKING BACK WOULD
SAY THAT THAT WAS A BAD DECISIONKK
GIVEN THAT AMERICA HAS ACTUALLY
BEEN ABLE TO CUT ITS EMISSIONS
BELOW THOSE LEVELS ANYWAY BASED
ON OUR FREE MARKET.
SO I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT
THAT IN TERMS OF ELECTED
OFFICIALS AND THE ATTEMPT TO
UNDERMINE THEM, WHEN IN
ACTUALITY, LETTING THEM CARRY
OUT WHAT THEY WERE ELECTED TO DO
IS THE RIGHT THING.
THIS STAFFER ABSOLUTELY SHOULD
RESIGN BECAUSE IF YOU ARE A
SENIOR ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL,
GOOD EXAMPLE OF THIS, THERE ARE
BENEFITS TO THAT..
YOU ARE GIVEN A LEVEL OF
CREDIBILITY THAT YOU DID NOT
HAVE BEFORE YOU WERE A SENIOR
ADMINISTRATION OFFICIAL.
WHILE YOU ARE LAPPING UP THOSE
BENEFITS, NO DOUBT THIS OP-EDOT
WRITER IS SCOUTING AROUND FOR
HIS NEXT PRIVATE SECTOR
OPPORTUNITY IN WHICH HE WILL BE
ABLE TO MAKE A LOT OF MONEY, AND
MAYBE HE WILL WHISPER TO
SOMEBODY ALONG THE WAY, "OH, BY
THE WAY, I WAS THE ONE THAT
WROTE THAT OP-ED."
Tucker: EXACTLY.
BY THE WAY, UNDER OUR
CONSTITUTION, STAFFERS HAVE NO
AUTHORITY APART FROM THE
DIRECTIONS GIVEN BY THE ELECTED
GUY WHO WORKS THERE.
ONE OF THE BEST THINGS ABOUT
BEING A STAFFER IS LET'S SAY YOU
COME UP WITH A GOOD LINE FOR THE
PRESIDENT TO USE IN AN INTERVIEW
OR A GOOD LINE THAT HE WRITES IN
A SPEECH..AY
THAT THEN IS THE PRESIDENT'S
LINE.
IT IS SO ABHORRENT TO THINK THAT
YOU WOULD GO OUT AND SAY "THAT
WAS MY LINE, ACTUALLY, HE JUST
USED MY LINE."
IT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING HERE.
IF YOU THINK THE PRESIDENT IS
BEING RESTRAINED, THEN DON'T SAY
ANYTHING.
IF YOU THINK YOU ARE BEING SO
EFFECTIVE, SHUT YOUR MOUTH.
Tucker: GREAT POINT.
I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE
BIZARRE THEATER WE SAW ON
CAPITOL HILL WITH THE KAVANAUGH
HEARINGS.
CORY BOOKER, SENATOR FROM
NEW JERSEY, RELEASED WHAT HE
CLAIMED WERE CONFIDENTIAL EMAILS
AND THEN MADE A HUGE FUSS TO
MAXIMIZE THE ATTENTION.
I AM RIGHT NOW, BEFORE YOUR
PROCESS IS FINISHED, I AM GOING
TO RELEASE THE EMAIL ABOUT
RACIAL PROFILING.
AND I UNDERSTAND THE PENALTY
COMES WITH POTENTIAL OUSTING
FROM THE SENATE.
I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS OF MY
COLLEAGUES, THIS IS THE CLOSEST
I WILL HAVE IN MY LIFE TO AN "I
AM SPARTACUS" MOMENT.
Tucker: "KICK ME OUT IF YOU
WANT," BUT DOCUMENTS APPARENTLY
WERE NOT EVEN CLASSIFIED.
WE GOT THIS STATEMENT FROM BILL
BURKE, THE LAWYER WHO HAS BEEN
VETTING THESE DOCUMENTS.
HE SAID WE CLEARED THOSE
DOCUMENTS LAST NIGHT SHORTLY
AFTER THE STAFF ASKED US TO.
WE WERE SURPRISED TO LEARN
ABOUT HIS HISTRIONICS THIS
MORNING BECAUSE WE ALREADY TOLD
HIM HE COULD USE THE DOCUMENTS
PUBLICLY.
[LAUGHS]
I MEAN, WHAT?
SO IS THIS ALL FAKE?
HE FUMBLED IN HIS OWN
END ZONE, AS THOSE WHO WATCH MY
SHOW KNOW, I AM NOT GOOD AT
SPORTS METAPHORS, BUT I GAVE THE
OLD COLLEGE TRY.
ONE OF THE COMPLAINTSS ABOUT
CORY BOOKER HAS BEEN THAT HE IS
A TV SUIT.
AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO CHOOSE A
TV MOMENT WHEN EVERYBODY IS
WATCHING, YOU BETTER MAKE IT A
GOOD ONE.
THIS WAS A REAL OWN GOAL FOR
HIM.
IF HE IS ON YOUR 2020 FANTASY
LEAGUE, YOU COULD BE IN A LITTLE
BIT OF TROUBLE.
HOWEVER, I THINK THE DEMOCRATIC
BASE HAS SHOWN, WE FIGHT, WE
WANT TO FIGHT. F.
ONE OF THE THINGS THEY SAID THE
POLITICO HAS SHOWN,
CHUCK SCHUMER HAS FAILED THEM ON
THIS NOMINATION.
LET ME JUST SAY THIS,
PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS A LOT TO BE
PROUD OF..
JUDGE KAVANAUGH HAS SHOWN THAT
HE IS A JUDGE WITH WONDERFUL
TEMPERAMENT.
HE SAT THERE FOR DAYS ANSWERING
ALL OF THEIR QUESTIONS THAT HE
COULD.D.
TO THE EXTENT THAT HE WAS NOT
GOING TO HAVE TO PREJUDICE
HIMSELF FOR THE FUTURE.
AND I THINK THAT BECAUSE HE DID
NOT DO ANYTHING TO OFFEND LIKE
SENATORS PAUL, COLLINS, OR
MURKOWSKI, I THINK WHEN THIS
VOTE IS CALLED, I PREDICT HE
WILL GET SEVERAL DEMOCRATS TO
VOTE WITH HIM.OW
HE DESERVES MORE, BUT HE WILLAL
PROBABLY END UP WITH 54.
Tucker: IT WOULD BE AMAZING
IF HE COULD PULL THAT OFF.
DANA PERINO, WE ARE GOING TO
KEEP THIS SHORT.
THANK YOU.
OUT OF THE HEADLINES, ROBERT
MUELLER'S INVESTIGATION GRINDS
ON.IS
NEW QUESTIONS THAT THE DOJ MAY
HAVE BROKEN PROTOCOL TO C
INVESTIGATE THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN.
PLUS, WE ARE WAITING THE
PRESIDENT'S SPEECH IN BILLINGS,
MONTANA, WE WILL TAKE YOU THERE.
"FOX & FRIENDS" PETE HEGSETH
WITH AN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW THAT
AIRS TOMORROW MORNING.
Tucker: REPUBLICAN
LAWMAKERS SAY IT IS PAST TIME
FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO
INVESTIGATE WHETHER ITS OWN
PERSONNEL VIOLATED ESTABLISHED
PROTOCOL TO INVESTIGATE THE
TRUMP PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN,
INCLUDING THROUGH CONTACT WITH
THE NOW INFAMOUS DOSSIER AUTHOR
CHRISTOPHER STEELE.E
CONGRESSMAN MARK MEADOWS HAS
SENT A LETTER SAYING TESTIMONY
BY BRUCE OHR REVEALS MULTIPLE
INSTANCES WHERE PROTOCOL WAS
VIOLATED.
HE IS DEMANDING AN INQUIRY ABOUT
BY THE INSPECTOR GENERAL.
JOE DiGENOVA IS A FORMERTI
ATTORNEY FOR THE DISTRICT OF
COLUMBIA AND JOINS US TONIGHT.
DO YOU THINK PROTOCOL WAS
VIOLATED?
WHAT DOES IT MEAN EXACTLY, AND
WHY IS THIS SIGNIFICANT?
I DO NOT THINK THERE'S ANY
DOUBT THAT BRUCE OHR WASNY
OPERATING BEYOND ALL CONSTRAINTS
IN THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT PROTOCOL
REALLY MATTERS.D
WHAT MATTERS HERE IS THAT IN HIS
TESTIMONY, BRUCE OHR SAID THAT
AFTER CHRISTOPHER STEELE WAS
FIRED BY THE FBI AS AN
INFORMANT, BRUCE OHR CONTINUED
TO TALK TO HIM CAN REPEATEDLY,
GOT INFORMATION, SENT IT TO THE
FBI, WHO THEN PUT IT IN FISA
APPLICATIONS.
NOT ONLY THAT, BRUCE OHR
TESTIFIED THAT SENIOR OFFICIALSS
AT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, SALLY
YATES, LORETTA LYNCH, AND
OTHERS, JOHN CARLIN, THE
ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR
NATIONAL SECURITY, WERE TOLD
THAT HE WAS DOING THIS.
WHAT THIS TELLS ME IS THAT THERE
WAS -- THERE'S JUST NO DOUBT
THAT GIVEN THE FALSITY OF THE
FISA APPLICATIONS, THE MATERIAL
FALSEHOODS THAT WERE GIVEN BY
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND THE
FBI, THAT THE SENIOR OFFICIALS
IN THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, ALONG
WITH BRUCE OHR, WERE LYING TO A
FEDERAL COURT AND THAT ALL OF
THEM SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
NOT BECAUSE OF PROTOCOLS,
BECAUSE THEY VIOLATED FEDERAL
CRIMINAL LAW.F
THERE OUGHT TO BE A GRAND
JURY DOING THIS.
WE ARE TOLD THAT THERE THAT THIS
GUY HUBER IS DOING THIS.IN
HE HAS NOT EVEN INTERVIEWED THE
MOST IMPORTANT PERSON, URANIUM
ONE.
GOD ONLY KNOWS WHAT HUBER IS NOT
DOING IN UTAH.
Tucker: WOULD IT NOT BE
USEFUL FOR THE REST OF US TO
KNOW WHAT WAS IN THE FISA
APPLICATIONS?
IT IS ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL
NO
THAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES AUTHORIZED THE
DECLASSIFICATION OF EVERY ONE OF
THOSE APPLICATIONS.
AND IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING,
PRAISE THE LORD, THAT THAT
PROCESS OF DECLASSIFICATION ISER
NOW UNDERWAY AND THAT THE
WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL'S OFFICE IS
REVIEWING THE DOCUMENTS TOND
PROTECT SOURCES THAT WE ALL
WANT, BUT ALSO TO REVEAL THE
FALSEHOODS, THE MATERIALES
FALSEHOODS, THAT WERE GIVEN TO
THE FISA COURT BY SENIOR JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT OFFICIALS AND SENIOR
FBI OFFICIALS IN THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION.
Tucker: IF YOU CARE ABOUT
THE CREDIBILITY OF THE U.S.
GOVERNMENT, IF YOU CARE ABOUT
DEMOCRACY, IF YOU WANT THE
PUBLIC ON YOUR SIDE, WHICH IS A
PREREQUISITE FOR RULING AAR
COUNTRY LIKE THIS, WE SHOULD
HAVE MORE INFORMATION.
I DON'T KNOW THE ARGUMENT
AGAINST THAT.TETE
JOE, THANK YOU FOR THAT.NF
THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT
AND FOR TELLING US THAT PROCESS
IS UNDERWAY.
I APPRECIATE IT.
YOU BET.OR
Tucker:
"THE NEW YORK TIMES" OP-ED
YESTERDAY CLEARLY DESIGNED TO
PROVOKE THE PRESIDENT.
HOW ABOUT PROVOKING HIM INTO
BUILDING A WALL ON THE BORDER?
THAT IS ANN COULTER'S
CONCLUSION.
LOOKING AT THE WHOLE THING
CAREFULLY, SHE JOINS US NEXT TO
EXPLAIN IT.
PLUS, IN A FEW MOMENTS, THE
PRESIDENT WILL BE ADDRESSING
SUPPORTERS IN BILLINGS, MONTANA.
WE WILL GO THERE LIVE WHEN HE
DOES.
STAY TUNED.
WE WILL GO THERE LIVE WHEN HE
DOES.
STAY TUNED.
♪ ♪
Liberty. Liberty. ♪
♪ ♪
Tucker: GO OUT TO BILLINGS,
MONTANA, WHERE THE
Tucker: GO OUT TO BILLINGS,
MONTANA, WHERE THE PRESIDENT IS
BUILDING FOR A RALLY RIGHT
THERE.
RIGHT NOW HE IS TAKING AN
INTERVIEW IN THE CORNER FOR
"FOX & FRIENDS."
YOU CAN SEE IT TOMORROW, WITH
PETE HEGSETH, THE PRESIDENT WILL
BE ON THE STAGE AT ANY MINUTE.
PRESIDENT WILL HAVE A LOT TO SAY
ABOUT "THE NEW YORK TIMES"
OP-ED, COLIN KAEPERNICK, AND
MANY MORE THINGS.
THE ISSUE IS IMMIGRATION WITH
ALL OF THE BORDER SECURITY IN
THE BACKGROUND.
ANN COULTER HAS NOTICED THAT.
SHE IS AUTHOR OF MANY BOOKS,
INCLUDING THE NEW ONE
"RESISTANCE IS FUTILE: HOW THE
TRUMP-HATING LEFT LOST IT'S
COLLECTIVE MIND."
IF YOU ARE WRITING THE
PRESIDENT'S SPEECH TONIGHT, WHAT
HE
WOULD YOU SAY?
THAT IS AN INTERESTING
QUESTION.
I WOULD SAY, "SOMEONE JUSTS
REMINDED ME THAT I AM PRESIDENT,
AND I DON'T NEED CONGRESS TO
BUILD THE WALL, SO I THINK I'M
JUST GOING TO START."
Tucker: [LAUGHS]
THE CROWD WOULD CHEER, AND MSNBC
THEY WOULD SAY "BUT THAT IS NOT
TRUE, YOU NEED CONGRESS TO BUILD
THE WALL!"
TO WHICH YOU WOULD SAY WHAT?
PULL OUT YOUR POCKET
CONSTITUTION AND SEE WHO THE
COMMANDER IN CHIEF IS, WHO HAS
ALL OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH
POWER IN HIS HANDS.
HE HAS THE DEPARTMENT OF
DEFENSE, HOMELAND SECURITY, IF
WE WERE SUDDENLY ATTACKED BY
CHINA, HE WOULD NOT SIT
AROUND -- OR NORTH KOREA -- HEY
WOULD NOT SIT AROUND AND SAY
"WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND,EA
BUT CONGRESS JUST WILL NOT WRITE
THAT BILL."
HE IS SAYING "NO, I AM THE
COMMANDER IN CHIEF, I HAVE THE
POWER TO DEFEND AGAINST AN
INVASION."
Tucker: SO HE DOES NOT NEED
CONGRESS TO APPROPRIATE THE
FUNDS FOR THE WALL, HE CAN JUST
DO IT?
EXACTLY.
BASICALLY WHAT OTHERS IN A
SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE,
90% OF ALL FEDERAL MONEY IS IN
THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND ANDND
THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE.
THIS IS BOTH HOMELAND SECURITY
AND DEFENSE.
I AM SURE -- DID HE HAVE TO GET
A SPECIAL BILL WHEN HE BOMBED
SYRIA?
BY MISTAKE, IT TURNED OUT.
NO, OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE
DISCRETIONARY FUNDS THERE.
THEY DON'T NEED TO BE SPENT JUST
TO SEND OFF BOMBS, TO MAKE
BOEING RICHER THAN THEY ALREADY
ARE FOR NO PURPOSE AT ALL.
Tucker: HUH.
SO WHY IS THAT NOT HAPPENING?
I SUSPECT EVERYONE AROUND HIM
IS TELLING HIM, "NO YOU CAN'T DO
THAT."
WHICH IS WHY I'M GLAD I HAVE THE
OPPORTUNITY ON YOUR TV SHOW TO
SAY "YES YOU CAN, MR. PRESIDENT,
REMEMBER NOVEMBER 8TH 2016?
REMEMBER THAT GREAT NIGHT"?
YOU ARE PRESIDENT.
OF COURSE YOU CAN BUILD THE
WALL.
THAT IS MOST OF WHAT THE
MILITARY DID FOR THE FIRST 100
YEARS.SI
WE WERE NOT GOING AROUND
REMAKING THE REST OF THE WORLD.
IT WAS THE MILITARY BUILDING
FORTS ON OUR BORDER, DEFENDING
AMERICAN BORDERS IS THE NUMBER
ONE JOB OF THE COMMANDER IN
CHIEF.
AND AGAIN, THE CONSTITUTION
MAKES HIM --
Tucker: WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.
THE NUMBER ONE JOB FOR THE
MILITARY IS TO INCREASE THE GDP
OF CULTURES THAT HATE IT, RIGHT?
YES, AND TO CREATE A TRAINING
GROUND FOR ISIS.
LET ME FLIP THROUGH THAT LITTLE
BOMBING SYRIA THING, IT HAS
PROBABLY BEEN MENTIONED ON YOUR
SHOW, IT HAS BEEN MENTIONED INT
OTHER PLACES, ON MY TWITTER FEED
IT HAS BEEN MENTIONED, SIX
MONTHS AFTER WE BOMBED SYRIA
BECAUSE THEY WERE ALLEGEDLY
USING NERVE GAS, THE U.N. WAS
OVER THERE DOING TESTS, TAKINGWE
ALL THE CORPSES, CHOPPING THEM
UP, LOOKING FOR "WHAT KILLED
THESE PEOPLE"?
TURNS OUT, NO NERVE GAS WAS
USED.
Tucker: SOME OF US POINTED
THAT OUT THE DAY AFTER IT
HAPPENED.
TRANSPARENTLY FALSE, RIGHT.
IT WAS FAKE, IT WAS A LIE, AND
THAT WAS OBVIOUS TO US.
I GUESS WHAT YOU ARE REALLY
SAYING IS THE STAFF OF THE
EXECUTIVE BRANCH IS NOT SIMPLY
WRITING OP-EDS, BRAGGING ABOUT
THEIR SUBVERSION, THEY ARE
WORKING FULL TIME TO DO THE
OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE PRESIDENT
PROMISED TO DO WHEN HE WAS
ELECTED.
YES.
AND MITCH McCONNELL.
THIS IS KIND OF SHOCKING THAT
McCONNELL COMES OUT AND SAYS,
WE'RE GOING TO SEND YOU AN
OMNIBUS BILL.
WE WILL GET TO THE WALL AFTER
THE ELECTION.
YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT WILL BE SO
MUCH EASIER AFTER A BLUE WAVE.
Tucker: THIS IS MY LAST
QUESTION, BUT IT IS SINCERE.
AS A POLITICAL MATTER, DO YOU
THINK THE REPUBLICANS IN
CONGRESS WOULD DO BETTER IF THE
PRESIDENT UNILATERALLY BUILT A
WALL?
YES.
YES, I THINK A LOT OF HIS BASETE
IS QUITETE DEMORALIZED.
I EXPRESS IT ON TWITTER, I WAS
AT THIS BIG FAIR THING -- THE
IMMIGRATION OUTFIT IN WASHINGTON
YESTERDAY.
I MET A LOT OF SHERIFFS, A LOT
OF ANGEL MOMS, AND ALSO I GO.
ABOUT MY LIFE AND MEET PEOPLE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DO NOT PUT
IT IN THEIR TWITTER FEEDS
THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEY FEEL
LIKE TRUMP IS OUR ONLY HOPE AND
THEY DO NOT WANT TO CRITICIZE
HIM AT ALL.
BOY, DO THEY LIKE ME DOING THE
BORDER WALL TALKING.
THEY WANT SOMEBODY REMINDING HIM
OF THIS, AND THEY ARE REALLY
DISAPPOINTED.
Tucker: YOU HAVE BEEN
RELENTLESS ON THAT AND WE
APPRECIATE IT.
ANN COULTER, THANK YOU.IM
GOOD LUCK ON THE BOOK.
UP NEXT, KIDS CHANGE THEIR
GENDER AS EASILY AS THEY CHANGE
THEIR CLOTHES, SO WHAT OTHER
BIOLOGICAL TRAITS, BASIC ONES,
ARE ADJUSTABLE?
IF YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR SEX, WHY
NOT YOUR RACE?
IT'S A FAIR QUESTION, AND WE ARE
GOING TO ASK IT.
PLUS, WE ARE WATCHING FOR THE
PRESIDENT'S SPEECH IN BILLINGS,
MONTANA.
WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK.
♪ ♪
Tucker: A NEW LAW IN
CALIFORNIA MAKES IT EASY FOR
CITIZENS TO CHANGE THEIR SEX AND
GET AN UPDATED BIRTH
CERTIFICATE.E.
THREE OPTIONS ARE AVAILABLE:
MALE, FEMALE, AND NONBINARY. A
THERE APPEARS TO BE A LIMIT OF
HOW MANY TIMES YOU CAN CHANGE
IT OR HOW OFTEN.
IF SEX AND GENDER IS FLEXIBLE,
WHAT ELSE IS?
THANKS A LOT FOR COMING ON.
I'M STILL CONFUSED BY A LOT OF
THE PARAMETERS OF THIS
CONVERSATION BECAUSE NOBODY
WANTS TO TALK ABOUT THEM, THEY
JUST WANT TO FORCE THEM ON YOU.
AND BY SCREAMING THEM AT YOU.
IF YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR SEX, OR
IF YOU CAN PROCLAIM THAT IT IS
CHANGED, WHY CAN YOU NOT CHANGE
YOUR RACE?
THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION, AND
I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE
COMING FROM, BUT I WANT TO
APPROACH THIS FROM A SLIGHTLY
DIFFERENT ANGLE, AND I DO NOT
MEAN TO AVOID YOUR QUESTION.RO
I'VE BEEN THINKING A LOT ABOUT
THIS ISSUE, 1.4 MILLION PEOPLE
NOW IDENTIFY AS TRANSGENDER IN
THIS COUNTRY.
WE THINK OF THIS AS A LIBERAL,
PROGRESSIVE THING TO GIVE PEOPLE
THE CHOICE ON THEIR LICENSE AND
BIRTH CERTIFICATE, WHETHER OR
NOT THEY WANT TO IDENTIFY AS
MALE OR FEMALE.
BUT THINK ABOUT IT, IF YOU ARE
IN AN AIRPORT AND AN AIRPORT
SECURITY OFFICER AND YOU HAVE
SOMEONE APPROACH YOU -- AGAIN,
1.4 MILLION PEOPLE ARE
IDENTIFIED -- IDENTIFY
THEMSELVES AS TRANSGENDER IN
THIS COUNTRY.
SO YOU ARE A SECURITY OFFICER
AND YOU HAVE SOMEONE APPROACHED
YOU AND YOU ARE TRYING TOER
IDENTIFY THEM AND YOU HAVE THEIR
LICENSE IN YOUR HAND AND THEY
APPEAR TO BE -- LOOK LIKE A MAN
BUT DRESSED LIKE A WOMAN, BUT ON
THEIR LICENSE, THEY CHECKED
OTHER OR X, THEY DO NOT WANT TO
IDENTIFY, YOU ARE ACTUALLY
ABLE -- I WOULD SAY, SUGGEST,
MORE CORRECTLY IDENTIFY THAT
PERSON.
Tucker: I'M NOT ARGUING
AGAINST THAT.
BY THE WAY, I'M SURE THERE WILL
BE 20 MILLION PEOPLE WHO
IDENTIFY AS TRANSGENDER.
A LOT OF THINGS ARE ACCELERATED,
AND THAT IS WHY IT MAKES IT SO
IMPORTANT FOR THE REST OF US WHO
ARE LOOKING AND WONDERING WHAT
THIS IS TO GET ANSWERS TOES
STRAIGHTFORWARD QUESTIONS LIKE O
WHAT IS THIS EXACTLY AND WHAT
DOES IT MEAN TO CHANGE YOUR SEX?
SPECIFICALLY, WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
I DO NOT KNOW WHY IT IS A
DANGEROUS QUESTION.
IT IS TREATED AS ONE THOUGH.
MOST STRAIGHTFORWARD QUESTIONS
ARE, THOUGH, NOW.
TEN YEARS AGO, WE BELIEVED THAT
SEX WAS IMMUTABLE, THE DNA
LEVEL, YOU COULD TELL FROM
FOSSILS WHETHER IT WAS MALE OR
FEMALE.
NOW WE CLAIM THAT IS NOT TRUE.E.
IF I CAN CHANGE MY SEX, WHYY
CAN'T I CHANGE MY RACE?
WHO IS MAKING THESE RULES?
WHAT ARE THE RULES?
THE GOVERNMENT IS MAKING
THESE RULES, CALIFORNIA,
WASHINGTON, THEY HAVE ALL SAID,
THEY HAVE PASSED LEGISLATION
THAT SAYS --E
Tucker: I KNOW THE
MECHANICS, BUT IF I AM CHANGING
MY SEX, THEY WILL SAY "YOU ARE
COURAGEOUS" OR WHATEVER THEY
SAY, BUT THEY WILL ACCEPT IT AS
REAL.
BUT IF I AM SAYING "I CHANGE MY
RACE," AND BY THE WAY, NOW I AM
POTENTIALLY ELIGIBLE FOR A LOT
OF BENEFITS BECAUSE THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT CLASSIFIES BY RACE, I
AM LEFT THAT WERE SEEN AS A
THREAT.
WHY?
I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
I DO NOT KNOW IF THERE IS
LEGISLATION, I CANNOT ANSWER
THIS QUESTION WELL FOR YOUY?
BECAUSE I DO NOT KNOW IF THERE
IS LEGISLATION OUT THERE IN
TERMS FOR WHAT IS HAPPENING IN
THE GENDER MOVEMENT, IN TERMS OF
RACE.
Tucker: THERE IS NOT, BUT
I'M JUST SAYING, ALL OF THIS
FOLLOWS A PHILOSOPHICAL CHANGE
WHERE WE, TEN YEARS AGO WE
THOUGHT THIS TO BE LUDICROUS AND
I WE ACCEPTED AS NONLUDICROUS.
AND NOW THE LAWS ARE CHANGING TOOW
REFLECT THAT.
WHY ARE PEOPLE WHO THINK THIS IS
NONLUDICROUS SO HOSTILE TO THE
IDEA OF ME SAYING "I AM AMERICAN
INDIAN" OR WHATEVER?IC
WHY IS THAT CONSIDERED
OFFENSIVE?
THAT IS MY QUESTION.
I CANNOT ANSWER THAT QUESTION
CORRECTLY FOR YOU BECAUSE I DO
NOT KNOW IF THERE IS A HOSTILE
MOVEMENT TOWARD PEOPLE WHO
NECESSARILY WANT TO IDENTIFY IN
TERMS OF A DIFFERENT RACE.
HOWEVER, I CAN SAY THAT I
BELIEVE MOST GOVERNMENT
DOCUMENTS I'VE LOOKED AT, THEY
GIVE PEOPLE AN OPTION TO NOT SAYFE
WHAT RACE THEY ARE.
AND I'M SURE PEOPLE LIE ALL THE
TIME.
I THINK NETFLIX DID A
DOCUMENTARY ON THIS WHERE PEOPLE
CLAIM THEY ARE A DIFFERENT RACE
THAN THEY ACTUALLY ARE..
Tucker: PEOPLE WILL
CONTINUE TO LIE ON FEDERAL FORMS
BECAUSE IT IS NO ONE'S BUSINESS
WHAT RACE YOU ARE.
SOME PEOPLE WOULD ARGUE IT IS
NO BUSINESS WHAT GENDER YOU ARE.
Tucker: THAT IS WHAT THEIR
ARGUMENT.
THANK YOU.
PRESIDENT TRUMP SPEAKS ANY
MINUTE IN BILLINGS.
BEFORE HE DOES, WE WILL HAVE
ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS ON
"THE NEW YORK TIMES" OP-ED AND
THE REACTION TO IT AND WHAT IT H
ALL SAYS ABOUT THE PEOPLE
RUNNING OUR COUNTRY.
NO ONE BETTER THAN MARK STEYN ON
THAT, SO HE WILL BE WITH US
NEXT.
NO ONE BETTER THAN MARK STEYN
at customink.com.
Tucker: As you heard us say
earlier in the show, former
Secretary of State John Kerry
saying this country is facing a
crisis of democracy, he is right
and is part of reason for it.
The people in charge of our
democracy no longer believe in
democracy, and that is why Trump
got elected.
Not because Putin sent in agents
or because middle America is
evil, he won because of the
people in charge failed.
THEY HATE VOTERS AS THEY ARE
INCOMPETENT.
THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ARE
DOING.
It is an ugly story but it is
worth knowing and it explains
what is happeningg right now, the
premise of my new book "ship of
fools."
You can order it now as an act
of resistance.
Speaking of resistance, the I
publication of that famous
"New York Times" op-ed, CNN hasOU
THE PRESIDENT APPEARS TO HAVE
A WILDLY DEBILITATING INJURY OR
ILLNESS OR IS ACTING AS IF HE
HAS GONE INSANE.
THE VICE PRESIDENT ON THE
CABINET COULD TELL CONGRESS THAT
HE HAS GOT TO GO.EE
WE ARE NOW IN CHARGE.
AND THEY DO TAKE CONTROL.
MEASURABLE, PROVABLE, MENTAL OR
PHYSICAL INCAPACITY.
SPEAK OF THE OTHER OPTION IS
IMPEACHMENT, WHICH IS IN THE
CONSTITUTION.
TUCKER: I CAN'T BELIEVE I
EVER WORKED THERE.
MARK STEYN, COLUMNIST, JOINS US
TONIGHT.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THIS, MARK?
THEY ARE BASICALLY TREATING
THE PRESIDENT LIKE ONE OF THOSE
OTTOMAN SULTANS IN TURKEY WHERE
ALL OF THE GRAND VIZIER THOUGHT
THEY WERE NUTS.
THEY USED TO CALL THE GIGGLING
ONE, AND THEY KEPT HIM THEY KEPT
HIM IN A CAGE WITH A COUPLE OF
LADIES FROM THE HAREM AND LET
HIM GIGGLE ALL DAY LONG.
THAT IS HOW THEY ARE TREATING
THE PRESIDENT.
I BELIEVE THE CONSTITUTION,
TUCKER, BEGINS WITH THE WORDS
"WE THE PEOPLE."
THIS GUY IN "THE NEW YORK TIMES"
IS BASICALLY SAYING "WE THE
PEOPLE WHO KNOW BETTER THAN YOU
PEOPLE."
WE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO KNOW
BETTER THAN YOU CRASS, VULGAR,
STUPID PEOPLE.
SO WE HAVE DECIDED TO SUBVERT
THE RESULTS OF THE 2016
ELECTIONS.
ALL OF THESE PEOPLE SERVE AT THE
PRESIDENT'S PLEASURE AND THE
IDEA THAT THEY CAN EFFECTIVELY
NULLIFY THE ELECTION IS ACTUALLY
DISGRACEFUL AND DEPRAVED ANDHA
DECADENT.
TUCKER: BUT HOW ARE THEY
EXACTLY THE SAME PEOPLE WHO ARE
FOREVER LECTURING US ABOUT THE
SUBVERSION OF DEMOCRACY?
IT IS MIND-BENDING IN ITS
HYPOCRISY.
RIGHT.
THERE IS A HUGE ELEMENT OF
PROJECTION HERE.N
BY THE WAY, I THINK THAT GOES TO
THE INSANITY, TOO.
BOB WOODWARD'S LOUSY, UNREADABLE
BOOK, PART OF THE EVIDENCE HE
CITES FOR THE FACT THAT TRUMP IS
AN OBVIOUS MORON IS BECAUSE HEBO
IS IN A MEETING ABOUT
AFGHANISTAN AND HE SAYS TO HIS
GENERALS "WHEN ARE WE GOING TO
START WINNING SOME WARS?"
AFTER 17 YEARS RUNNING AROUND
ONE OF THE MOST WORTHLESS BITS
OF REAL ESTATE ON THE PLANET,
THAT IS A VERY LEGITIMATE
QUESTION TO ASK.
SOMETIMES YOU CAN BE THE ONLY
SANE PERSON IN THE ROOM, AND IT
IS EVERYONE AROUND YOU WHO IS
NUTS.
TUCKER: WOODWARD REALLY
CITES THAT AS AN EXAMPLE OF
CRAZINESS?
YEAH, YEAH.
"WHEN ARE WE GOING TO START
WINNING SOME WARS?"
WE BEEN 17 YEARS -- ANN WAS
REFERRING TO THIS 10 MINUTESG
AGO, RUNNING AROUND HELMAND
PROVINCE, WHICH ACTUALLY -- THE
ENTIRE VALUE OF HELMAND PROVINCE
IS WORTH ABOUT HALF OF BARBRA
STREISAND'S TERRACE IN MALIBU.
REMEMBER THE DAYS WHEN WARS
STAND IN VICTORY AND DEFEAT,
WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE?
ON THAT BASIS, HE IS PRESUMED TO
BE THE OTTOMAN SULTAN WHO HAS TO
BE KEPT IN THE CAGE AND THE WISE
GUYS LIKE "NEW YORK TIMES"
WRITER, SUPPOSEDLY THE SAME
ONES.
IT IS RIDICULOUS, IT IS
DECADENT, IT IS DISGUSTING.
TUCKER: YOU ARE THE BEST.
MARK STEYN, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
I ALWAYS LEARN SOMETHING.
STAY RIGHT HERE, THE PRESIDENT
WILL BEGIN SPEAKING AT ANY
MOMENT FROM MONTANA.
THAT IS IT FOR US TONIGHT.
EVERY NIGHT 8:00 P.M., COME BACK
TO THE SHOW THAT IS THE SWORN
ENEMY OF LYING, POMPOSITY,
SMUGNESS, AND GROUPTHINK.