好吧 All right.
接收大量的参与者 Receive the influx of participants.
是啊 Yea,
你好 hello,
每一个人 everybody,
好了 alright,
欢迎每一个人 welcome everybody.
我们将在这里给我们的与会者一分钟来加入另一个 We're going to give a minute here for our attendees to join in another.
直播的势头太好了 The livestream is just going up so well.
欢迎所有已经注册的人 Welcome to everybody who has registered.
这是与大师们一起学习的每个人都很兴奋 this is learning with masters were excited to have everybody.
在这里 here.
我们看到很多人加入 we see a lot of people joining,
现在加入xoom电话 joining the xoom call now.
所以欢迎各位 so welcome guys,
再次感谢您的出席 thank you for your attendance again.
这就是大师给你带来的学习 This is learning with masters is brought you by tack,
解决培训 resolve training.
这是一种慈善募捐活动 也是一个很好的机会来认识并听取一些业内顶尖人士的意见 This is a kind of charity fundraiser event and also just a really great opportunity to meet and listened to some of the top people in the industry,
一些在彩色光栅后期制作不同领域的专家将会与你们分享一些信息并在后期制作的过程中帮助我们 some of the experts in different areas of color grating in post production that are going to be able to share some information with you and kind of help us along in the journey for postproduction.
妈咪的雷蒙德 Mammy's Raymond.
你们之前可能见过我 Some guy you guys may have seen me before.
还有一些网络研讨会用的是改头换面面试 And some of the webinars with tack resold interviewing.
如果你们是我们杰出的嘉宾在接下来的八小时里开车来表演的不是别人 正是沃尔特·瓦帕托 if you are our illustrious guests the person is going to be driving to show today for the next eight hours or so is none other than Walter Wappato.
你知道蒸汽 You know steam,
高级 senior,
配色师和所有东西的大师超过公司三 colorist and master of all things post over a company three,
沃尔特 Walter,
感谢你们来到这里 感谢你们帮助组建了这个了不起的kasten和了不起的团队 thank you for being here and thank you for helping assemble this amazing kasten and amazing crew of an incredible people here,
所以我再给你一杯水 so a water I will hand it over to you again.
这是包装工训练时留下的 This is from packers all training.
这也是一项慈善活动 This is a charity event as well.
先生 Sir,
沃尔特 Walter,
你想告诉我们一些信息 you want to give us an info.
所以你们好 So hi guys,
每一个人 everybody.
你好 Hi,
每个人都看到 everybody you see,
以下是今天晚些时候我们将会见的一些小组成员 Here are some of the panelists that we will meet later in the day.
好吧 Well,
我想说的第一件事 the first thing I want to say.
谢谢你们邀请我 谢谢你们所有人加入我的冒险 Thank you for having me and thank you all of you guys for joining me in this adventure.
我想分享一个小视频 因为我们做这个 I want to share a little video because we do this one,
不是因为钱 not for money,
对我们来说不是 对你们来说至少有一个 not for us with at least one one for you guys.
这样你们就能学到新东西了 so you guys can learn something new.
结束 end.
我们收集的钱 the money that we collect.
我们用它做慈善 We use it for charity.
我看看能不能给你们分享一段视频 So let me see if I can share a little video for you guys.
C C.
然后呢 And?
的吗 The?
好的 OK.
的吗 The?
好吧 OK,
谢谢你们 thank you guys,
想你阿施施 think you Ashish.
我知道你在后台帮我们 I know you are in background and helping us,
让我们从我的朋友开始 so let's start with my friend there,
你是这里的高级色彩师 and you're a senior colorists here,
经纪人一年要经历25次左右的风雨 twenty five or so a year of rocks that brokers experience.
现在你知道颜色了 你就是在线创意数字广告公司的创始人 And now you know color you are the founder of Digital Ad Agency Online Creative.
你是一个黑人 You're a black,
我的黑魔法设计大师培训师 my black magic design master trainer,
恭喜你在Youtube上发布了20个同性恋 and congratulation for your twenty gay people on Youtube.
因为为什么不谢谢你 Because why not thank you very much.
这块地是你的了 The field is yours.
我想问你一个问题你是怎么从广播跳到电影广告的 Let me let me ask a question how did you jump from broadcast to cinema advertisement?
我们现在做什么 What we do now?
因为这是一个有趣的跳跃 而我还在做电视广播 Because that's an interesting jump while I'm still very much television broadcast,
所以我还是一团糟 so I'm still really wrecks.
没有九来点 Have no nine to point,
秋季交付 fall deliverable all the way.
一些不错的老式电视纪录片长形式短形式 Some good oldfashioned TV documentary long form short form.
这就是我的世界 So that's that's kind of my world.
但你知道 But you know,
即使是现在的广播 even in broadcast now,
大部分的产品要适当的上色 他们要做适当的整理 most of the production to proper color they do proper finishing.
所以今天你在这里告诉我们一些技巧来提高工作流程来平衡镜头的效率 因为这不只是制作一个短片 而是制作整个电影 整个电视节目 so you're here today to tell us about tricks to improve work flow to balance shots the efficient because it's not just making one short pretty is making a whole movie a whole TV show a whole,
无论你在做什么 whatever you are doing,
很好 pretty well,
至少是前后一致的 at least coherent and consistent.
所以请帮助我们 so please help us.
好吧 OK,
是要我去吗 is that for me to go?
是的 Yes,
不要给我们看一些我们不懂的东西和定律 just don't show us something and then a law when we don't understand,
我问你 I'll ask you,
好吧 OK,
好吧 all right.
那么它的公司是什么呢 So what is its firm?
我在布赖顿市中心 What times an assets just gone midnight here I'm in Central Brighton,
它是英国著名的派对城市 which is quite a famous party city in England.
我才意识到我就在这个城市最大的酒吧的隔壁 and I've just realized I'm actually next door to the largest pub in the city,
大约25分钟前 and about twenty five minutes ago.
比赛开始了 所以他们会喝得酩酊大醉 it was all kicking off so they will get very drunk.
人们在这场关于足球比赛的争吵中会在你的头脑中发生 并且通常会崩溃 People be much in this quarrel over large football match is going on in your head and typically breaks.
是的 Yes,
是的 yeah,
所以你可能会听到人们尖叫 唱歌 呕吐 眼镜被一个人超越 so the world so you might hear people screaming and singing and throwing up and glasses getting surmounted by a person.
这是一个非常热闹的酒吧 It's a pretty lively pub actually,
所以当我说我要在我的工作室里做的时候 我完全忘记了 so I forgot all about that when I said I'd do in my studio.
这就是 So that's out.
欢迎来到布莱顿 Welcome to Brighton.
你将看到你是否可能听到它的真实 You'll see if you'll probably hear it for real.
我有个方向性很强的麦克 I got quite a directional Mike,
这样我们就没事了 so we could be okay.
我很荣幸能成为你们共同努力的伟大事业的一份子 I'm very honored to be part of this amazing thing that you've pulled together.
你在彩色世界里有十一个或十二个传说 You got eleven or twelve legends in the world of colour.
我很幸运认识他们中的一些人 I'm very fortunate to know quite a few of them,
所以一个真正的伟大的骑士 and so a real real Great Knight head of youth,
整整八个小时 all eight hours of it.
我要留下来 为了整洁 我要跑回家 我因为家里舒适而被逮捕了 I'm going to stick around for neat and I'm going to race back home and was arrested for the comfort of my home.
所以我要用大号来及格 So I'm gonna pass mark with large.
如果你在Facebook上回复人们绝望的信息和技术支持 if you're there to have a night off Facebook answering people's desperate messages and tech support on that,
别再盯着我的腿看了 看看你是怎么做到的 give yourself an eye off my lap and how you can do that.
这就是为什么我的电脑显示的快速时间比亚马逊上要暗 That's why is why my computer show the quick time darker there than on Amazon.
让我们看看X是不是每隔一天保存一个 Let's see X like the other is kept every other day.
我是说打电话给柯林斯应该是唯一的答案我要去找马克 I mean called Collins should be the one answer that question I'm going to check Mark.
我说你在治疗过程中还会回答一些问题 I said that you still answer a few during your session.
但你为Facebook社区做了出色的工作 But you do a sterling job for the Facebook community.
但是没有 so but no,
这是 this is.
这真是太棒了 This is amazing and this has come together,
所以你知道 so you know,
沃尔特开始伪装的坦克训练 Walter Initiation the guise of tankers off training.
我记得沃尔特 I remember when Walter,
几个月前我们上的大师课 it was sure your master class we did a couple of months ago,
技术决心的全体成员都被 隐蔽 和另一位母亲袭击了 and the whole crew from tech resolve all got hit with covert and another mother.
也 Also.
所以这是一个非常严重的情况 so it's a really serious situation that's happening.
这让我感到非常幸运 因为我生活在一个有氧气的国家 That makes me feel very lucky that I live in a country where we do have oxygen,
我们有病床 We have hospital beds,
我们有疫苗接种 we have vaccination,
它真的让我回家了 it really brought home.
一张床单在他病床上给我发短信 An a sheet was actually messaging me from his hospital bed.
他亲眼目睹身边的人死去 He was literally seeing people die around him.
所以你知道 So you know,
这是一件很神奇的事情 this is a really amazing thing,
令人惊讶的是 一堆卡路里可以聚集在一起 你可以做到这一点 然后筹到一些钱来帮助他在足球方面的出色工作 and it's quite amazing that a bunch of calories can come together and you can pull this off and then get some money together for to help the amazing job that guy's at soccer doing so.
我只想对他们说声谢谢 你应该是一个很小的合作伙伴 I just want to say thank you to them and you are supposed to be a very small partner.
所以 So,
是的 yes,
好吧 well,
说我是被你替换的调色师 said I'm a colorist you replace.
它帮助了大约25年的业务 其中的13年 It helps roughly twenty five years in the business for the thirteen of that,
作为一个画家 as a colorist,
我开始拍电视电影 大师 and I started on the television film Master.
我刚开始读普通的交响乐 I just started on average Symphony,
真的 Really.
但他们的填补大师苹果颜色 然后一直在达·芬奇的决心 因为黑魔法接管 But their fill Master over Apple Color and then have been on Da Vinci resolve since Black Magic took over.
我想大概是11年 So I think it's about eleven years.
就像你说的那样 something like that you have about that.
是的 Yeah,
是的 yeah,
自从我喝完粥后你就一直在用它 itself that you have been on it since I've done my porridge on it,
我认为它是第一个在长形上做长形的 and I think it was one of the first to do long form at the long form.
BBC四频道在黑魔法公司购买他们后的第一个版本中播出 BBC Four it on one of the first versions that came out after Black Magic bought them.
所以这是一个非常可怕的权利 so that was quite a hefty scary right,
但它在传播过程中发挥了作用 从那以后我一直是它的忠实粉丝 所以主要是纪录片 but it worked within it transmitted and I've been a loyal fan since so it's mainly documentaries that includes a long form,
纪录片 documentaries,
BBC电视台的很多节目 lots of a BBC TV sky.
我在世界各地工作过 我很幸运能带着我的工作去过中国 去过印度 I have worked all over the world and I'm very lucky to have traveled with my work up into China up into India,
他们在哪里 where the guys are.
澳大利亚的工作太好吃了 It's Australia working so tasty.
我会让它有一个好的回合 I 'll get it ever a good good innings.
但在许多 But in many,
他们说现在在布莱恩工作室里 They say now in our brightened in our Brian studio,
所以我想给你们展示的是音乐 so I want to show you we also do is like music,
宣传片和简短形式 promos and short form as well.
但我想给你们看这个平衡的镜头 but I want to show you this of balancing shots,
但我觉得这是你在他们身上找不到的东西 but I think it's something that you don't find a lot on them.
在Youtube上 On Youtube,
一个瓶颈或非常小的Youtube频道Duff做的是在20或20K的路径上是小的 a bottleneck or very small Youtube Channel Duff do is on the path of twenty or twenty K is small.
请把它给我 Please give it to me.
我就要它了 I'll take it.
所以当你试着 So when you try to actually.
让我们不要为小的数字争吵 这样做也很有趣 Let's not bicker over small numbers that no less than has been a lot of fun doing it.
我照做了这其实是一级防范禁闭 I did that was it that was actually a lockdown,
这是通过秘密进行的 and that came about through covert.
如果你知道 So if you know,
如果好东西可以垂涎 if good things can come to covet,
我想我们都找到了新的工作方式 I think we've all finding new ways of working.
是的 and yeah,
希望这一切都结束吧 let's just hope this is all over.
很快 Very soon.
我至少可以恢复正常旅行 I can get back to some normality at least travelling,
所以我想告诉你们我是怎么做的 so I want to show you how I go about with.
所以当我们做广播工作时 So when we do in broadcast job.
我有一个平衡的整体场景 I've got a balanced whole scenes,
但我会很快地做这个 but I'm going to do that pretty quick.
好吧 Okay,
所以你有典型的 so you've got typically,
我可以在评分 I could be grading,
说 say,
每天注射500针 five hundred shots a day.
所以如果你把它分成他们所说的9小时一天 That's so if you divide that into their said nine hour day,
一年多的时间里我每天工作不超过10个小时 I don't really do ten hour days in more than a year.
虽然我们的行业坚持认为有一天十小时这样的事情 While our industry insists that there is such a thing as ten hour days,
但你仍然可能是每小时65次 but you are still looking at probably sixty five shots an hour,
有很多事情要做 which is a lot to do.
记住 Bear in mind.
可以是3个 That could be three,
4 four,
每10秒就有5到6个节点 所以你得快点 five or six nodes of a node every ten seconds you're working on so you gotta be quick,
我将向你们展示我们是如何做到的 and I'm going to show you how we do that.
所以你并不是每分钟给60个节点分级 so you don't actually grade sixty nodes a minute.
有一些捷径 但仍然得到一个良好的平衡 There are ways of short cutting that but still getting a good balance.
所以最好的办法是 如果我在屏幕上分享一些笔记 So pretty best thing is if I share my screen up a few notes,
我要试着用它来保持我在轨道上 I'm going to try and use just to keep me on there on track,
但这是关于快速平衡的也要记住每小时65枪不算 but it's really about balancing quick and also remember that sixty five shots an hour that's not counting.
你吃了一顿午餐 You have got a bit of a bit lunch or yeah,
他要去上厕所 He needs to go to the toilet.
这不是 That's not.
这是不允许的 That's not allowed.
我不认识多少生产线的老板 The owner I don't know many line produces.
你想去厕所 在这里拿一分钟 you'd like to go to the toilet and carrying a minute here.
让我们听听有多少人共享我的屏幕 So let's listen to how many share my screen.
如果我对着错误的屏幕说话而没有正确地分享我的屏幕 就把我拉上来 And pull me up if I don't share my screen correctly on talking to the wrong screen on or whatever.
得到你的好 可以看到我的鼠标是 Get your good OK and can see my mouse is,
是的 yeah,
他们不是好的 they're not OK,
这是 so this is.
这是我做的一部戏剧 This is a drama that I did.
它被称为 It's called.
我要感谢本杰明·琼斯和耐克电影公司让我真正使用 Relationships are just like to thank Benjamin Jones and Nike Films for letting me actually use.
要拿到正式的录像可不容易 This is quite hard to get footage to keep all official,
比如BBC暴动之类的事情 like BBC riots and all that sort of stuff.
非常感谢你们让我用这个我正在研究一个未评分的进度大师 So it's very kind of you to let me actually use this and I'm working off a ungraded progress master,
所以我们所做的 so we did.
这也是我们有原始文件的地方 This is also on areas that we did actually have the raw files,
但我已经没有它们了 but I don't have them anymore,
但它仍然可以传达信息 but it still gets to get the information across all right.
要评分的场景是这个 So the scene going to grade is this one,
这个 this one here,
所以它只是在叙利亚的一个办公室 and so it's just an office in Syria.
我还要讲另一个关于我们的故事 And I'm also going to do another bit of us.
另一个场景 我将向你们展示两个完全不同的体验 another scene where I'm going to show you two completely different an experience.
所以这是不同的 So this is just different.
摄像头角度或商店区域雷克萨斯非常好 Camera angles or shop area Lexus are so nice and yeah,
好看的东西 good looking stuff.
所以我打赌你想要快速但有效地展示你的平衡现在一切都是关于瞄准镜完全停止 So I bet you want to show your balancing fast but efficiently now it's all about the scopes full stop.
好吧 OK,
你得到了 you got.
如果你不知道如何使用作用域 If you don't know how to use scopes,
让我们忘记平衡短说 它是如此简单 let's forget even trying to balance short says it's as simple as that.
好吧 Okay.
斯考特是你最好的朋友 Scopes are your best friend.
这就像黑魔法的作用范围一样简单 This is simple as that the black magic scopes.
我在角落里坐了一个 I've got one sat down here in the corner,
你可以在下面看到 我可以在不同的选项之间切换 so you can just see that down here and I can switch between different ones.
我在预算范围内强烈推荐一些 I strongly recommend a few on a budget.
如果你能有第二个显示器并且让这些示波器永远打开这真的会帮助你提高速度如果你需要一直盯着示波器 If you can get a second monitor and hath those scopes permanently open is that's honestly going to help you for speed if you need to be looking at the scopes all the time.
我看脚本和我看图像一样多 所以你可能只需要C 我将拉我的范围 I'm looking at scripts as much as I'm looking at my images so you can probably just C and I'm going to pull my scopes round.
但是你不能 but you can't.
你看到我的瞄准镜了 You see my scopes.
在一个单独的 On a separate,
他们实际上是在一个独立的机器上运行的 以确保我的医生 they were actually running on a separate machine so that make sure that my GP,
他没有任何需要监视的东西 who has not been held up with anything that need on scopes.
也因为我只使用scope and also because I use only scope,
我实际上并不使用资源作用域 I don't actually use the resource scopes.
结果Scripts工作得很好 The result Scripts work perfectly.
好 well.
他们完全没有问题 There's nothing wrong with them at all,
但我很喜欢Aliscope给我的工具 but I actually like what Ali scope gives me in terms of tools,
我才做了五个月的妈妈 and I've only been on mommy scope for five months or something,
但我认为它改进了我们的伟大和效率升级没有 but I actually think it's improve the way that our great and efficiency upgrades without.
我就是喜欢 I just love it.
我很快会给你们看 So what I'm going to show you very quickly.
我不打算详细地告诉你们它是什么样子的 it I'm not going to do detailed was going to show you quickly what it looks like,
我只是需要搬家 I just need to move.
我要继续移动这个区屏幕路径 I'm going to keep moving This zoon screen pathway.
这里只有一个节点 So I've just got a single node,
他什么也没做 and he has not done anything.
这一点都不好 This has gotten no great on it at all,
你要知道 and just so you know,
我没有任何颜色 I'm not in any color.
管理层也不是达芬奇的一部分 Management either aren't some in da Vinci.
为什么Rgb非核心管理时间轴视网膜九保证点四 Why Rgb Noncore managed with a timeline of Retina Nine Guarantee Point four.
好吧 All right,
让我快速地给你们展示一下范围 so just let me quickly show you only scope.
所以当你买了这个瞄准镜 然后打八五折快速使用 So when you buy on the scope and just a quick on using at fifteen percent off,
这是我唯一要看的地方 this is the only place I'm going to be looking at.
在我的Youtube频道上有一集打八五折的节目叫做whichscopesintwentyone Fifteen percent off have got an episode on my Youtube channel that's called which scopes in two thousand and twenty one.
在像素和产品中有任何时间的链接 There is a link in there for any of the time in pixels and products,
但其中一个就是范围 but one of them is only scope,
目标是打八五折 aiming at fifteen percent off.
所以如果你真的去了 So if you do go for it,
美国 the United States,
大约打五折 about fifty percent off.
我把答案拖到这里 然后打开 I'm going to drag that answer here I'm going to open.
显示器只是一个第三方插入的开放效果 The displays is just a third party plug in an open effect,
如果我打开那个显示 and if I open that display there,
你只能看到scope的样子 you can see what only scope looks like,
这不是我的计划 and this is not exactly my set up,
但它给你展示了一些 but it's it shows you a few,
上帝的工具 而我真正喜欢的是这些载体 the tools of God and what I really like is these vectors.
作用域 scopes up here.
好吧 Okay,
我有 I've got.
我的矢量范围分为低 My vector scope split into low,
中 高 mid and high,
这样我就能很快地看到我的黑白平衡 so I can see my black balance and my white balance really quickly.
好吧 All right.
所以我只需要瞥一眼 看看我的生活区域是不是白色的 So I need to just be able to glance at that and just check that my blocks of life from a whites are white,
这是一个很好的方法因为它分离了亮度值 and this is a really nice way than because it's separating the luminance values.
好吧 All right,
这样我就可以计算工资了 我还得到了整个向量范围 so I can calculate salaries and I've got to overall vector scope here.
我唯一喜欢的就是这个假颜色 The only thing I like is this false color,
你可以自定义这个 then here is well such that you can really customize this,
但这真的很好 but this is really nice to quickly.
只要让我知道大概就行了 Just get me in the ballpark.
当我使用我的偏移只是一个检查风险在设置方面 When I'm using my offset just a check risk in terms of setting,
诸如此类的事情 and that sort of stuff.
我要做的第一件事就是让你的皮肤看起来很好 The first thing I'd like to get right and so you get the skin turns looking good,
差不多了 so that's almost got there.
我要告诉你们的是这是关于我孩子的一集如果你们想深入了解 So what I'm going to tell you about it looks like this is an episode on my child if you want to see it in depth,
但是我真的推荐它 but I really recommend it.
它太神奇了 It's fantastic,
不想断开连接 Don't want to disconnect.
是的 Yes,
我做的 I do,
好吧 alright.
我把这个擦掉 So let me clear that off.
好吧 All right,
这是裙子 so that's the skirts,
我会看到你想要的另一件事是 and I'll see the other thing you want is a decent,
校准显示器 calibrated monitor.
所以这个问题一直出现在Facebook上 So the question comes up on Facebook all time.
它是好吗 Is it OK?
如果我没有一个校准过的怪物 If I don't have a calibrated monster,
OK使用300磅你能得到的最好的显示器显然会在这方面帮助你 OK uses three hundred pounds of the best monitor you can get will obviously help you in this.
如果你的答案没有经过校准 If your answer is not calibrated.
这些技巧展示了一天之后 After the techniques are shows a day,
至少你可以让它们平衡 at least you can have them balanced,
他们会平衡的 而我仍然在扯淡 没有自己的校准 they'll be evenly balanced and I'm still at crap doesn't own a calibrated on this.
但至少我会一直保持平衡 But at least I'll be consistently balanced,
所以现在你推荐一个好的 so that now do you recommend a good,
校准显示器 calibrated display.
让我们继续 现在我要做的第一件事是 So let's go ahead and grade this up now the first thing I do is,
我不你们现在开始打分 把糖浆放下去 开始写作首先要做的是上色 I don't You start grading put syrup now down and just start writing the first able to do is color.
管理我的场景这个场景 Manage my my scene this scene here.
这里有一些无人机拍摄的混合视频 There's a mixture of drone footage in here.
还有一些库存录像 There's a couple of stock footage as well,
但大部分是非常 but the majority of it is ery.
Alexa Alexa.
现在我用固定 Now I've worked with fixed,
没有树木 no trees.
我已经说了很多关于这些国家我认为这里的大部分卡路里都是用不种树 I have been a lot of talk about the countries I think most of the calories are on here probably use fix no trees,
我说 I said.
你知道你有 You know you do,
沃尔特和我的手术马上就要揭晓了 Walter and my surgery is about to be revealed here,
这是我的权力等级 so I've got in my power grade here.
我这里只有三个 I've got just three of them in here,
但我有几个不同的 but I've got a couple of different ones,
对于音乐视频 I use and for music videos,
有些对纪录片很有用 some very useful for documentary.
这是更多的老鼠戏剧一 and this is more mice of drama One.
所以这是Arial超过了记录七和九 So this is Arial exceeds a record seven and nine,
我有这些小窍门 and I've got these little tips.
你可以在上面看到 you can just see on that.
上面还写着文字 It's actually got text written on it.
当我把它保存为电力等级时 So when I save this as a power grade,
这很容易做到 this is really easy to do.
我很快就会告诉你 I'll show you quick.
一个胖 A fat mark.
我们在四五年前得到这个消息 we large getting this tip about four five years ago.
如果你猜我的编辑页面 If you guess my edit page.
如果你只是想写个标题 And if you just literally create a title suggests,
抓住一个标题 grab a title,
使它成为 make it into.
一种化合物 A compound note,
好吧 OK,
我需要 I need,
你可以随便写个标题 let you just put the title of whatever you want.
如果我点击这里 So if I click on there,
你可以写MaryAlexa的表情 这样你就能得到它了 you can just write Mary Alexa look so you would ever get it.
减少一个页面 Cut a page.
把衬衫放在这里 造你的无树 The shirt on here and build your no tree.
你想在哪里多放几套平头和颈线 Where do you want to have several sets for some parallels and neck?
系列 The serial,
不管你想要什么 whatever you want it to be grabbed still,
然后办公室可以抓住它 上面的标题写得很好 and then offices can grab it with that title on it says quite a nice little.
这不是很有趣 It's just not so fun.
小费 Tip.
好吧 All right,
把我的录像拿回来 let's bring back my footage.
我无法接受 I can't get past that.
温和的 Mild,
看到你不想看 也不想上来 seeing that you don't want to look at and you don't come up.
看到他的时候 我觉得有点不自在 There's a little bit of a racy seeing him,
奥巴马 Mr Obama,
所以我尽量不去了 So I'm going to try not to show up right.
我们来看看我的笔记 So let's go and have a look at my notes.
我用鼠标中间点这里和那里 I'm going a middle mouse click on here and there.
它是如此 It is so.
规范我的公证人 Regulate the kind of notary I've got.
我的第一个 my first,
谁知道我的曝光率是多少 who knows are my exposure?
我在很多视频网站上都报道过这个 I've covered this on quite a few of my Youtube,
你知道我的固定公证人是怎么工作的 and you have kind of how my fixed notary works.
它偶尔会被修改 It gets modified every now and again,
但是这里除了这个节点什么都没有发生 but there's nothing going on here except for this node here,
没有愚蠢的艾滋病 no dumb AIDS,
这个已经在上面了 and that has got on it.
如果我猜我的开放效果 If I guess my open effects,
它有我的颜色空间变换 it's got my color space transform,
所以我仍然在颜色空间变换中 so I still within a color space transform.
我使用的不是真正的媒体管理器工作流 I'm not using true media manager workflows,
我不在ace工作 and I don't work in aces,
尽管我现在正在尝试更多的界面 although I am now experimenting a bit more interfaces,
我仍然倾向于从默认的工作流程 I still tend to just go from a default workflows,
所以我们从不开始工作 so we never start a job.
我要像 I'm going like.
在亚洲做这个 当它面对 do this one in Asia to do this when it faces,
但我还是你刚开始工作我只是用我习惯的方式工作因为我必须做得很快 But I still just you just start the job and I just work in the way that I'm used to just four again because I have to do these so fast.
我一天要去五百家店 I've got five hundred shops to do in a day,
我看的是基 so I am looking at basis.
但现在我用的是这种颜色 But at the minute I'm working with this color.
空间变换 所以它的airyAlexa输入 space transform so its airy Alexa input,
我真的很喜欢看海 I really like to look sea,
我的输出是用时间轴写的铁保证点4 and my output is used timeline which is written an iron guarantee point four.
在csd之后 我有一些笔记 And then I've got a few notes after the csd.
这是我在你之后想做的任何工作 So this is for any work that I want to do after the after thee.
后直肠是否正常 After the rectum or not.
所以我的第一个 So my first,
现在有谁知道基本用户的暴露程度 who knows of basic users exposure right now.
我之所以用固定的无树是因为它能让我保持纪律 the reason I'm using a fixed no tree is It keeps me disciplined,
好吧 OK,
所以当我锻炼的时候当我快速锻炼的时候 so when I'm working out when I'm working fast,
如果诱惑只是给SaraNode一个耳光 然后再给你一个 然后你又赶紧换了一个新的 你想尽快完成工作 时间压力 你会去上厕所 if the temptation is just a slap at Sara Node on and put another one on and you put another one in new in a hurry and you want to get the job done quickly time pressure you go to the toilet.
你又浪费了4秒 you just lost another four seconds,
我们的年级 our grade.
这让我保持自律 This keeps me disciplined.
好吧 OK,
这让我花钱 this gets me to spend,
但我使用固定公证人还有另一个原因 but there's another reason why I use a fixed notary,
我一会儿就会给你们看 and I'm going to show you that in a little while.
我做下一步的原因也是在那个原因之前 And the reason I'm doing this next step is also before that reason.
好吧 OK,
这是让我快速评分的最基本的东西 So this is this one fundamental thing that gets me grading very quick,
过一会儿我会强调一下 and I'm going to highlight it in a few moments.
所以我要做的第一件事就是第一次去现场 So the first thing to do is take my first shot at the scene,
我要转移 and I'm going to shift.
选择我的最后一个镜头我的场景 我要把它们放在一个组里 select my last shot my scene and I'm going to put these in a group.
我要向右 So I'm just going to right,
单击说 Click and say,
添加到一个新组 Add into a new group.
该组织表示 这次会议叫什么并不重要 The group said it doesn't matter what is called this session,
它们现在属于一个组 and these are now within a group,
我这样做不是为了在这里使用无组剪辑或使用组发布的东西 and I'm not doing this to come up here and use group free clip or use group posted that is for something else,
也不是出于特殊的原因 我马上就会告诉你们 nor I am using this for a special reason which I'm going to show you shortly.
好了 Alright,
我们来看看第一家店 so let's go to our first shop,
现在我们来看一下 and this now has a bit of a look going on it,
当然 of course,
因为我们重新选择了XML和9看这里 because we've got reelected to XML and nine Look going on here.
它能听懂我的笔记 It understood my notes.
是的 Yeah,
好吧 OK,
我们可以这样写 so we could write.
现在让我们开始平衡 So let's just start balancing this now.
我没有两个平衡来应付另一个冲击 I'm not got two balances to another shock,
因为这是第一次有商店或民兵摆出这样的形象 because this is the first shops or militia gonna set the look that is seen.
所以我们要做的第一件事就是他会给我们另一个建议 And so the first thing that we do and he's going to go to one of the other bit of advice.
当你做这些当你做修复的时候没有树 when you make these when you make your fix no trees.
如果在应用它时 在保存它之前突出显示第一个节点 if you highlight the first node before you save it when you apply it.
第一个音符已经被激活了 the first note will already be active.
如果你说 如果你在这里处理CSRt 然后保存它 So if you say that if you do you work on the CSR t here and then save it.
当你应用电网节点8时它总是活跃的你要做的第一件事就是因为你不知道在对接之间有多少时间如果你不知道 When you apply that power grid node eight will always be active to see your first thing you have to do is because you have no idea how many time that between the butt and if you don't,
你一天会有500次 you're going to have five hundred times a day.
这真的很痛苦 And that's a real pain,
所以说 so it says,
在你拯救它之前要记住一件事 just one thing to remember just before you save it,
点击你想启动它们的提示 hit the note that you want to start them.
这是我的偏移量 So this is going to be my offset.
我要在这里加一点 So I'm just going to bring up a little bit here.
我看了看望远镜 So I'm looking a bit the scopes,
我看了一下现场 and I'm looking a bit at the scene here.
我可能想把它提上去一点 I might want to bring it up a little bit there.
我要杀一点绿色的 I'm just going to kill a bit green.
我要去我的小组了 I'm going to go to my panel now.
希望你们能看到它足够大 so hopefully you can see it's big enough.
你可以看到我在面板上工作 You can actually see me working on the panel,
但我基本上是在用偏移 but I'm basically working with offset here.
所以值会改变 So the values will change.
但是另一个omagh面板 But another omagh panel,
就像我 as I would.
现在我将看到我正在做的高级面板 Now I'll see the advanced panel that I'm working on.
嘿 Hey,
我只是在调整绿色对于做长篇纪录片来说速度是惊人的快 I'm just adjusting the green is amazingly fast for doing long form documentary work.
这是它真正闪耀的地方 因为我有24个记忆停下来 This is where it really shines because I've got twenty four memories for stop so,
以及我一开始设定的功率等级 and also this power grade that I had loaded on to start with.
它已经在内存中了 That's it already in memory.
所以当我进入下一个镜头 我想要应用空中效果 So when I go to my next shot and I want to apply the airy,
比我看起来更富有 richer than I look.
它更简单 你可以通过节点看到 It's a simpler and you see there by node.
一个高亮显示 one highlighted,
准备好了 ready to go.
所以这个小组让我觉得这也意味着一切都只是 So the panel gets me going really think that it also means that everything's just.
它就在你要去的地方 it's just there where you are going.
我认为如果不是这样 I think if else,
如果你没有高级面板的预算 if you don't have the budget for an advanced panel,
任何小组都将帮助你确定 这真的帮助时 纪录片将剪切 any panel is going to help you for sure that this really helps when documentary will cut.
苹果公司在制作了关于这个的第一部纪录片之后 the Apple is after doing the first documentaries about this,
它很快就在速度和效率方面为自己付出了代价 and it paid for itself in no time in terms of speed and efficiency.
让我们看看我的成绩 这些就在下面 So let's have a look at my grade and these are just beneath.
这是放大的 this is zooming up.
梅根总是问我哪里不需要 Megan asked me always where I don't need it.
班尼斯特付了钱 So we've Bannister pay.
如果你看这里 If you look up here,
我们有一个很好的 we've got a pretty nice,
对他一贯的指责突然消失了 consistent line going on at him suddenly come away,
看起来很不错 form that's looking pretty good.
有一些亮点看起来不错 There are highlights are looking good.
我们来看看还能做些什么 And let's just see what else we can do in here.
我不认为它需要更多的饱和 我将能够知道 通常我会做什么 I don't think it needs any more saturation in that and I'm going to be able to know to and often what I'll do.
这是一些温度工作 Here is a bit of temperature works.
我的意思是 I mean,
这是我的原色 检查一下我的颜色 that's my primaries here just checked my color.
温度 temperature.
我还发现色温不仅存在于灵长类动物中 And I also find that the color temperature not only in the primate,
但如果你想深入阅读这些文章 but if you actually go into the hasty articles here if you want to get really deep in it,
如果你说她也是 if you say she also was,
温度的变化实际上略有不同 the temperature actually behave slightly differently,
而我却常常忘记它的存在 and I often forget that it's there.
但当我记起的时候 But when I do remember,
其实 it's actually,
这是一个很好的工具 你可以从中得到一些不同的效果 really nice tool to play around with you that you get a slightly different look from it,
这是我的首要任务 so you know that's my primary,
这就是我调整过的温度 so that's my kind of temperature adjusted,
这是第一个基本的平衡 and that's a first basic balance therewith,
有点密集 Kind of done intensive,
平衡 balancing.
所以我首先要做的是平衡场景 so what I would do first is balanced the scene out,
然后再做第二层 and then I would do a second layer through.
我的窗户上挂着 It racked up at my windows on there,
我们一直在往下掉东西 and we have been dropping things down.
但我要做的第一件事是让场景平衡 But the first thing I want to do is get the scene balanced.
让我们再来一遍 So let's go strands and second shot.
哦 Oh,
在那之前 before I do that.
所以他的电影演员又来了 So his movie guys over again.
我刚到这儿 I just got here,
我这里有个柠檬大师的小文件夹 I've got a lemon masters little folder down here.
我要正确的 I'm gonna right,
单击说 Click and say,
抓住还是好的 Grab still OK,
所以在我的第二个节目中 so onto my second show,
他需要用我的功率等级或者可以按我键盘上的a those he needs to do apply my power grade or could press a on my keyboard on my panel.
如果你们没有小组 我也会这样做 If you don't have a panel by the way I would do that.
如果你选择这里的颜色 if you go to color here,
你有记忆 你有8个 他说你可以节省内存节省内存B和一种新的加载内存援助 这样你就可以有一个老的和一个命令将做同样的为我按这里所以你仍然可以不用面板会和引导面临loadin这是格拉巴酒Tebow 拥有面板或新闻 you've got memories and you've got eight and he says you can save memory a save memory B and a new load memory aid so you can have an old one and a command one will do the same as me pressing a on here so you can still do it without panel right would go and loadin this and facing the boot is on a Grappa Tebow owned the panel or of the press.
一对图像擦除 A pair for image wipe.
我来看看这里发生了什么 I'm going to have a look at what's going on here.
所以 So in terms or again,
我会因为它而移动 I'm going to just move because of it.
所以在平衡方面 so in terms of balance here,
因为你可以看到这些线 你可以看到这里 because you see where the lines so you can see here,
中间有一条分界线 there's a split line down the middle.
好吧 OK,
这就是我如何影响我的平衡 This is how I am affecting my balance,
所以我可以看到这边的黑色实际上被压扁了 so I can see on this side are blacks are actually crushed down.
那是因为我们在看苹果Mac的界面 And that's because we're looking at the minute at the at the Apple Mac interface.
所以我要做的就是 so I'm going to do is literally.
把我的商店 Take my shop.
把它结束了 Put it over.
比酒的形象更有说服力 A better bet at the image to liquor.
好吧 OK,
所以这里还是有点被压扁了 so it was still a little bit crushed down here,
我要检查一下偏移量 so I'm going to go check my offset.
一点 Up a bit.
我挑染的地方太高了 And my highlights too high up here,
这气球 so this balloon,
因为我一直在看望远镜 as I'm just constantly looking at the scopes.
当我得到我的 while I'm getting my,
班尼特说 Bennett said.
丙烯下降了一点 Acrylic came down a little bit.
在某些情况下 In some of the kind of looking okay,
这是一个有点尴尬的镜头来平衡这一个 因为它主要是黑色的峡谷可以重置那些 it's a bit of an awkward shot to balance out this one because it's predominantly black chasms can reset those.
我注意到的另一件事是在实际的计算机界面上 And the other thing I've noticed here on the actual computer interface itself.
你有蓝色的石膏 You've got blue cast.
这是非常典型的拍摄电脑屏幕 That's very typical of shooting a computer screen,
所以我现在不打算去平衡它 so I'm not going to try and balance this out just yet.
这是第二次了 That's going to be a second pass,
所以我会在它周围画一个窗口 然后跟踪它 so I would draw a window shaped round this and track it,
可能只是用了色温 and just probably used color temperature,
或者这里有一点蓝色偏移 or a little bit of blue offset on there.
让我们在这里再试一次 So let's take a next shot here.
现在我要在这里增加我的威望 Now I'm going to add my power grows on a prestige on here,
这是我的7或9个 so that's my just my seven or nine.
注意 一旦准备好 Note once ready to go,
这是一个小技巧 and this is a little tips,
我要证明它是正确的 I'm going to show it right.
我们在这里 我想平衡这两张照片 So we're in here and I want to balance these two shots.
现在我已经把水放到了背景中 Now at the minute I've got the water in the background,
所以我的瞄准器在开关上给了我一个错误的读数 so my scopes are giving me a kind of false reading against on the switch.
湿巾 the wipes.
如果你需要听 你可以在擦除中说view If you've got to hear you can say view in that wipe.
R说宠物们现在都在看我们的天赋 R says pets are now looking at our talent,
但现在我的引用完全错了 but my reference is now completely in the wrong place,
我们可以做的是到这里来 so we can do is come down here.
使用缩放工具 而不是强调你可以下拉到参考缩放 你现在可以移动这些 Get your sizing tool and instead of emphasizing you can drop down to reference sizing and you can now move these over.
所以我把它移过来了 So I moved it over now.
我的问题是 The problem I've got here,
所以我们现在两边都有人才 so we've now got the talent on both sides,
所以我现在可以匹配这两个 然后看我的作用域来匹配 so I can now match both and looking at my scopes here to match.
但问题出在参考文献上 But the problem has got with the reference.
点击它们的用途是我们有很多天空和地面 Click them using is we've got tons of sky and tons of floor,
而在这家店 我们没有 and on this shop we don't.
我们有一半的人才 We've got half of it filled with the talent,
所以我要做的是使用我的工具 so what I'm going to do is use my tools here.
它们在我的软件里因为它不是直接的面板 So here they are in the software that I've got them because it's not the panel this straight there straightaway.
所以我猜 So I guess,
怎样才能在广播中快速做到这一点呢 how can do this really quick for broadcast?
感谢和达伦 Thanks and Darren,
有趣的是 你要花更多的时间向我们解释你在做什么 it's funny because it takes more time for you to explain to us what you're doing.
如果你有面板 If you have the panel,
你只要用手去做 you just go there with a hand you do it,
我的意思是 I mean,
它的速度要快得多你可以看到左右两边是你想要的 it's something much much faster than it's there all the time you can see the left and right sides to be whatever you want,
这样我就可以把它永久地作为背诵 so I can have that permanently as recites in which I do so,
我经常这样做 I do this all the time,
这让我对发生的事情有了更好的了解 so that to me is giving me a much better idea of what's going on.
甚至还有所有这些扫描仪都在放变焦 Even still have all this scanners are putting zooming.
不管他在印第安纳州多远 It doesn't matter how far he's in Indiana.
我们把它搬到那边去 Let's get it right over there we go.
实际上 这能让我在示波器上有更好的表现 In fact that's going to give me a much better representation on the scopes.
好吧 All right,
现在我们来看看它们能做什么只有当我再次偏移时 so now let's have a look what they can do so only as my offset here again,
我想拥有这个软件 I'm trying to own the software.
这是为了向你们展示在大多数人面前 It is to show you that at a majority on the panel.
我猜你会提起这事 And I guess you're bringing that up.
对不起 我十岁了 I'm sorry I'm ten.
我离开吗 Am I left?
是的 Yes,
我要把它拿出来 看看这个瞄准镜 I'm going to bring might lift out and just look at the scope.
我根本不是在看图像 I'm not looking at the image at all.
好吧 OK,
所以我不会打倒你 so I won't bring down.
这些高光部分 these highlights up here,
就在红色的海峡上 and it's just really on the red Channel.
实际上 actually.
我们要做的是 so what we're going to do.
我要走了 I'm going to go,
我要把我的亮度调低 I'm going to get my luma mix down,
这样做的原因是当我只有一个频道时 and the reason to do this is because when I just a single channel,
如果你只是碰巧 if you will just happening,
你能看到绿色和蓝色通道在互相补偿吗 can you see that the green and blue channels are compensating for each other?
这是因为分辨率试图保持亮度水平在同一点 And that's because resolve is trying to keep the luminance level at the same point,
哪个可以重置它们 which can reset them?
我也做过一期关于这个的节目 I've done an episode on this as well.
所以如果你想把这看做是一个叫做 为这些批判性的疯子而发光 的章节并且非常详细地解释了这个项目在做什么 So if you want to look at that as an episode called luminous for these critical lunatics and explains in very good detail exactly what this item is doing.
事实上 In fact,
作为一个预设 as a preset,
你可以一直把它设为0来建立风险 you can actually set that to be zero at all times and to set up venture zero.
第一点 On the first note,
然后飞奔而去 and just gonna pull red gallop.
我的绿色 My green.
就像这样 Something like that.
让我们来看看这种平衡 So let's have a look at that balance.
现在 Now.
另一种平衡的好方法不仅仅是白色 而是切 And another good way balance is not just to white is to actually cut.
你要做的就是把它拿下来 so what you do is take that off.
在那里 There.
它刚刚重置了我的参考位置这是一个小问题当你玩弄参考位置时 And it has just reset my reference or so this is a little gotcha that happens here when you've played around with the reference positioning.
好吧 OK,
你需要重置到它的状态 you need to reset in its state.
所有的疫苗都是这样 It stays at that for all the vaccines.
这让我有几次被抓住了 so that catches me a few times right,
所以我不会在两者之间切 so I'm not going to cut between the two.
看看发生了什么 再看看望远镜 Just see what's going on and look at the scopes as well,
但是它们看起来很匹配 but they look like they're going to match nicely.
你知道的 You know,
实际上 actually,
我真的很喜欢这个想法 因为在一天结束的时候 I really liked the idea because at the end of the day,
人们会把这个看成一系列卡片 people will look at this one as a sequence of cards.
播放一段又一段 模拟回放 so show one cut after the other simulate the playback.
所以这是个好主意 实际上我接下来要做的是在给整个场景打分之前先过敏 So it's a great idea and in fact what I do next is allergic before grade this whole scene.
所以我说 so I'm going like,
是的 yeah,
这很好 That's good.
这很好 That's good,
这很好 that's good.
我先播放这些 I'm just going to play these first.
三枪就能把他们打个落花流水 Three shots literally just play them out.
如果这是一个很好的例子 If that's a probably just great this one.
一开始看起来和现场一样 First it looks like it's the same as the scene.
你只是玩通过秘密时 你的评分投篮 You just play through the secret when your grading shot.
不要只走到商店的前面 Dont just go to the front of the shop.
好吧 Ok,
你需要把球打穿然后看一看 you need to play the shot through and have a look.
发生什么事情了 What's happening?
所以实际上 So in fact,
我们店里有两个人 we've got two people in the shop,
所以我只是想碰碰运气 也许它和这个一样好 so I'm just going to take a chance that it might be the same great as this,
点击鼠标中键 so I'm going to middle mouse,
点击它 就复制出来了 click on it and that's copied that great over,
看起来很不错 and it looks pretty good,
但我们要做的是播放它 but we're going to do is just play it,
所以我要到前面去 so I'm going to go to the front,
所以在填补这些空白和诗歌技巧之前 so before filling in all those blanks and skill of poetry.
所以这个还需要一些改进 So that one still needs a bit of work.
最右边的高光部分 the highlights on that far to the right.
现在 Now.
为什么平原 why are plain,
我在问你 I'm asking you.
你有玩过速度游戏还是双倍速度游戏 Did you ever play at speed or you play a double speed?
你知道的 you know,
你想利用你的决心吗 do you try to take advantage of resolve?
我们可以玩得更快 或者你就像平常一样撒谎 We've been able to play faster or you just lie as normal play,
所以你在回放框架的平面线上 so you get on the plane line on the playback framework.
是的 Yeah,
有时我喜欢做得更快 sometimes I like to do it faster,
尤其是和平运动进展缓慢的时候 especially when it's a very slow peace movement,
上次我们可以看到更多的削减 and we can just see more cuts in last time.
我做过的 我做过的 经常是这样的 这样的 I have done I have done and often with this sort of with this.
我要做的是检查前三四个镜头是否合适 而不是播放整个场景 What I'm trying to do is just check for the first three or four shots are OK as opposed to playing the whole scene,
但这是一个很好的方法你可以在这里切换到回放框架 but it's a good one to do so you just in here you can change to playback framework,
而且不需要和你的时间匹配 and it doesn't have to match your time I've ever met.
你可以把它设为100 You can set this to a one hundred.
如果你愿意 If you want,
然后回放 then it plays back.
根据系统的性能 Depending on the performance of your system,
假设这是 so let's say that's looking,
这是好看 that's looking good.
没有 有工作 there aren't there are working,
所以我现在可以复制粘贴到场景的其他部分 so I can now do a bit of a copy and paste between the rest of the scene.
那我该怎么做呢 So what I'm going to do?
另一种简单的方法是走到灯箱上 Another way of doing it easily is to go up to light box,
我爱我的书现在它是一个灯箱给你的 and I love my books now it's a lightbox gives you,
我知道很多人都不知道lightbox的存在 and I know a lot of people don't even know lightbox is there.
这是场景 So here's the scene.
我们已经评分了 这些公告都是快速复制粘贴的 That we're just graded and this announcements are really quickly copy and paste.
通过这个场景 Through that scene,
所以当你们坐在我需要按屏幕的地方时 我就试着把我的缩放缩小 so I'm just going to try and move my zoom out whenever you guys were sitting exactly where I need to be pressing on the screen.
我们有了这个镜头 so we've got this shot.
这里没有所以我要平衡一下 Here aren't so I'm going to balance this.
这里需要镜头 So this needs the shots here,
还有一个我现在不用做的就是中鼠标 and it is also here like I don't have got to do now is Middle Mouse.
点击这个完成的等级 Click this one grade done.
这一对是她的正面 This one pair so her front view.
但是这里 这里 还有这里 老鼠夫人剪短了 But here here and here Madame Mouse click short.
记住 Remember,
这只是一个基本的平衡 this is just a basic balance,
所以这是在6月才得到的 so this is just getting getting it in June.
我要再做一次微调 I'm going to do a second pass on this and do my fine tuning.
但这只是粗略的估计 But this is just to get it in the ballpark.
然后是这个 And then we got this one here,
还没评分呢 which hasn't been graded yet.
我要回去 So I'm going to go back.
我经常说 Into my regular saying,
所以什么书是复制粘贴的好方法 So what books are just really good way of just copy pasting,
好了 Alright,
所以只要多选鼠标中键 so just multiple select middle mouse click.
对吧 Right?
我们来看看这个 so let's have a look at this one.
我要加上电量 I'm going to add my power rate.
点击 Click on,
是吗 eh?
我将使用 I'm going to use.
这是我的参考 this shows my reference.
是的 Yeah,
我只要把我的变焦移远一点 I've just got to move my zoom at way.
再一次 So again,
我们这里有个问题 we've got this problem going on here,
所以我要去老加斯金 so I'm going to old W Gaskin.
W将会分裂我的屏幕 现在我得到了一个新的字符 它实际上不会看着它写 W is going to split my screen and I've now got off new character in which would not actually looks at writing it.
让我们看看我们要做什么 And let's just see where we're going on here.
在德里建成之前 如果你只占一半 那可能会更好 That is probably better if among half until you've built Delhi,
事实上我现在能做的是 and in fact what I can do now,
平移一下 if I just pan this over.
他很好 And his great OK,
我们可以看到这里有一些高亮的部分 so we can see here are highlights a little bit higher,
我们的升力比这些要低一点 and our lift is a little bit lower than just go to just those.
把它拿出来 你可以看到它完全依赖于望远镜 And bring out so you can see how much it's just totally relying on the scopes.
当他们点击这里时 我必须去一个更好的公园 I must go down a better park when they click on here,
我要检查一下色温 I'm going to check my color temperature.
它很好 It's good,
现在我们的匹配更靠眼睛了 and now our matching more by eye.
好吧 Okay,
我们得到了 so we've got that,
现在我要去抓一个还记得这个吗 and now I need to grab a still have this one?
因为我们有这个委员会 Because we've got this Council,
他说我们现在的角色很棒 he said that we've got this characters are great now,
所以在坟墓里 so in a graver still.
狼 Wolf.
我们移到这里 And we're going to move over to here.
好了 Alright,
把他带进来 let's bring him in.
再一次 Again,
我想移动我的引用 I want to move my referencing.
这就是我强调的翱翔 That's my emphasizing soaring,
更容易引用大小调整以使其工作 easier to reference sizing to make that work.
又有一根钢又一根钢又一根可以直跳 And there is again a steel zoomed again can skip straight.
我的面板 My panel.
把他带过来 让他供给后者 Bring him over and let supply the latter,
这并不是不可能的 not that outside the fix.
公证人 Notary.
好吧 Okay,
所以我们会在店里看到一些不同 so we'll see a bit of difference in the shop.
好吧 Ok,
他的头发更浅 he's much lighter hair,
但他自然会好很多 因为我们从不同的角度看 but naturally he is much nicer because we're looking at a different angle.
他要接的案子 The case he was going to take.
即考虑到rgb不完全匹配这样的情况 That into account is not an exact rgb matches such so.
让我再多做一点 Let me just play around with this a little bit more.
谢谢你 And thank you for that.
有些人被他们遗忘了 There are people they forget about.
布景上有灯光 There is lighting on the set.
一边可以比另一边暗一分钟 问问你的摄影指导 One side can be darker than the other a minute and ask your director of photography.
这是故意的吗 Is that intentional?
是的 Yeah,
不是每个像素都是精确的RGB匹配 it's not at each pixel is not an exact rgb match.
平衡一下 Well and balancing here,
你看的是一般水平 正确的让它们通过光 you're looking at the general level and getting it right allowed them to move through light,
当然 of course,
它 it.
它看起来就像卡通片 it would look like a cartoon.
否则你就知道是否完全匹配rgb如果你正确的话你可以得到rgb值 Otherwise you know if it's exact rgb matching and you can get rgb values if you right,
单击显示选择器RGB值 click show picker rgb value.
去看你的资格赛 Go to your qualifier.
你可以对rgb值进行采样 And you can actually sample rgb values,
但我可以很清楚地告诉你 这里的汤有一点不同 but I can quite tell you see here there is a slight difference in a soup.
还不算太糟 It's not too bad,
但我还是往上点 这样就得到了曲线 but I'm going to click up here this way we get curve.
我称之为 I would call this.
在这一点上 我想调整一下 这样我就能看到一些东西了 This is at this point that I want to adjust that I'll get some eye.
他想念他的羊 He missed his sheep.
我刚说了你们还没拿到样本 I just said you guys on the wagon on the sample.
掉了 Off.
这里有一个样本 把它放低一点 A sample that and that's come up here and just put it down a little bit.
这只是周末新闻中的一个小插曲 And that is such a tiny moves of weekend news.
扩大这些 Expand these out.
我就那样跑过去的 I ran there something like that,
你可以看到那部电影有多小 and you can see how small that movie's so.
这是更好的平衡 that's now better balanced.
正确的 right.
让我看看我的笔记本 Let me just check my notebook.
我不吃披萨 I'm not going to have pizza.
但现在这很好 Yet now that's good,
好吧 Okay.
所以我们现在有了基本的平衡 So so we've got that basic balance now said.
我现在要做的就是把这个复制到这里 What I can do now is very quickly copy this over to here,
所以我要到这里 so I'm gonna go here,
我在这里用鼠标点击这里 它就被复制过来了 and here I am in a middle mouse click in here and that's now copied across.
所以我们应该对砷进行分级 So we should have the beginnings of arsene graded.
所以我想回到固定公证人的问题上 我的另一个原因是你习惯使用固定公证人 我告诉你这是有原因的 So I want to go back to the fixed notary and the reason that I another reason why you used to fix notary and I said to you there's a reason.
我把它们分成一组 我会给你们看是什么 I put these into a group and I'm going to show you what it is.
我们来看看更短的 建立余额 Let's go to the shorter and we set up balance.
现在一切都很平衡了 Everything's nicely balanced now.
所以如果我们做任何治疗 so if we do any treatment,
任何颜色或洗涤或任何你想做的 any color look or wash or anything that you want to do,
因为事物是平衡的 it's because of things balanced.
我们会一直做这个晚上 We're going to be doing that uniformly night,
但是有一个好的 but there's a good,
很简单的方法 easy way of doing it.
我选择了这些节点中的一个 我知道它在其他拍摄中没有用过 I select one of these nodes that I know has not been used on any other shots,
我知道没人是六岁 and I know that no one was six.
例如 For example,
这里还没有用到任何 here this has not been used on any.
到目前为止 我认为任何使用123 I think of any use one two and three so far,
我太胖了 and I am so fat,
那么美丽的 less beautiful.
我从没用过 I've not used for anyone.
我要做的是改变一下外观 写一个公告的引子 And a note for what I'm gonna do is make a change to the look and writes an announcement primers.
我只考虑色温 I'm going to just my color temperature,
它将使商店暖和起来 so it is going to warm the shop.
我们刚刚 So we've just,
我只是想要一个更温暖的人只是想要一点温暖的外观 I just go for a much warmer who just want a bit of a warmer look.
里面看起来有点冷 It looks a bit cold in there,
他会说 我要做的是使用锁工具 关闭这里的曲线 and he'll say I'm going to do is I'm going to go to my lock tools and closed down my curves here.
我要打开锁工具 我要做的就是在阴影处放一点酷炫的东西 I wanna get to my lock tools and what I want to do is just put a little bit of coolness in the shadows.
只要一点点 just just a tiny bit,
所以我打算把它拿下来 so I was going to bring it down.
我还没在我的小组里做过这个 I've yet to do this on my panel as well.
我只是叫他们停下 I just call them off a little bit,
这只是一个开始的样子 我们想要这样的东西 just this just the beginnings of a of a look that were going for something like that.
有些东西是命令D来开关它 Something is commands D to switch it on and off.
只是看看温度可能是一个强大的闪电战对我们刮回一点 Just to see the temperature is probably a blitz of its strong on us and scraped back off a little bit.
我现在要做的就是把它复制到场景的其他部分 So what I need to do now is copy that to all the rest of the scene,
因为我把他们分组了 and because I've put them into a group,
我能做的就是做出美味的涟漪 what I can do is ripple great,
这个问题已经解决了 and this has been resolved.
思想 Thought ever.
这是一个最有效的工具 可以把原来的每小时70次减少到大约每小时30次 It's the most useful tool for getting those seventy shots an hour down to something more like thirty shots an hour.
好吧 All right,
这真的 this really,
所以 so.
她有那么多时间 She's so much time,
但你至少需要一个固定的公证人来做 but you need to be working on at least the basis of a fixed notary to do it.
它依赖于节点数 It relies on the node number when you're doing this,
所以我要做的是选择颜色 so what I'm gonna do is go to color,
我要说的是涟漪效应没有变化 I'm going to say rippled no changes,
你可以选择日食或石油依赖 and you have the choice of selected eclipse or the oil dependency,
或者没有对当前群体产生影响 or rippled no changes to current group.
我把一个人分组的原因是 Now the reason I put one in a group.
我们能先做吗 can we just do it first?
现在 So now,
如果我们看过去 if we look through.
让我们在第三和第四部分做一个改变 我们就一直这样你可以看到色温和冷度 Let's have a change in the third fourth and I we just to stay with it and you can see the color temperature and the coolness.
这张照片 This shot here,
这里有圣殿这些都很微妙你能看到祖玛身上的吗 so it's got the sanctuary are those that subtlety can you see that on Zuma?
希望 Hope?
这是一件很微妙的事情 And it's a quite subtle thing,
但希望这是变焦的结果 but hopefully that's coming across on zoom.
这张照片我也站着 I stand this shot as well.
所以我们对已经达到的平衡进行了全球性的调整 这似乎是一种非常快速的方式 So we've applied a global adjustment to an already balance seems as really quick way of just going.
是的 Yeah,
我只是想整件事再亮一点 I just want the whole thing a bit brighter,
少一点 暖和一点 a little bit less a little bit warmer,
无论什么 whatever.
它很好 It's good,
我们正在这样做 we're doing it now.
问题是 我来的时候已经十六七岁了 The problem with this is in result I've come in for sixteen or seventeen,
但他们改了 所以当你 but they changed it so that when you,
如果你在某处添加了一个新节点 if you added a new node somewhere,
假设在no树的中间 let's say here in the middle of my no tree,
我以前就是这么做的 which is how I used to do it before I had fixed.
公证人只是随机地在某个地方敲打串行节点 Notaries are just randomly slapper serial node on somewhere.
节点数会改变 因为他们想要保留他们认为软根很聪明的东西 The node numbers would change because they're trying to keep that they wanted they thought was clever of roots of soft.
去一两个 Go one two,
三 three,
为了让你们在这里看到它们 four in order that you see them here,
这对涟漪分级没有帮助 and that doesn't help ripple grading,
所以如果你要做波纹分级 so you need to go if you're going to do ripple grading,
你需要进入你的首选项 you need to go to your preferences.
并且你必须在用户中选择颜色 And you must select in the user in colour.
这将在添加笔记时保存笔记编号 This would have preserved note numbers when adding notes.
如果你没有把我的笔记号码固定在那上面 If you don't have that on that that keeps my note numbers fixed,
所以在这里再加一个节点都没有关系 so it doesn't matter if I add another node here.
这不会影响我的笔记 把它关掉 It doesn't affect my note for and with that off,
然后所有的笔记号都会更新 then all the note numbers updates.
你是不是彻底完蛋了 Are you totally screwed?
塔拉 Tara,
我想我们还有几分钟 I think we have a few more minutes.
还有一些快速的人类也展示给我们 There is something quick human are also show us.
这个是那个的主要部分 A lot of this is the bulk of that.
这种善意 This sort of good will.
让我告诉你一些捷径 Let me show you a few little shortcuts.
然后 Then.
那家伙嘲笑了一下 That guy goes quipped on it right,
我们来看一个增强其他东西的形状 Let me just going to look at a shape enhancing something else this.
这是两个镜头 so this is two shots here.
好的 我想给你们看的是 OK and what I want to show you here.
这个已经评分了 This is already graded,
所以我要做的是 我要禁用这个这实际上是在白天拍摄的 so what I'm going to do is I'm going to disable this is this was actually shot in daytime.
所以这不是一个很好的日子如果你喜欢 这是一个从黄昏开始的一天 所以我们只能继续 So this is not a day for nice is kind of a day from dusk if you like so all we've got on.
这是节点 There is the node.
如果我把它放回去 If I put that back on,
我们现在是黄昏时间 we've got this sort of dusk time.
看看这个 Look now this here.
这是没有评分的 This is ungraded in it.
啊 Ah,
这个节点 this node here,
如果我有一些开放的效果 就不会进行颜色空间变换 if I got some open effects is as not going to color space transformation it,
但是你看 but you see,
我仍然保留着固定的公证人 以防我想换掉整部电影 I'm still keeping my fixed notary in case I want to change the whole film.
我可以用波纹级来做 I can do that with a ripple grade.
所以我们要做的是平衡它 使它不是结构 So what we need to do is balanced this that so it's not structure.
这是一个无人机商店 It's a drone shop to this.
现在 Now.
我想做的是当它抓住一个蒸馏器 就像我在上面做的那样 what I wanted to do when it grabbed a still for it which I've done up here,
我确定了这个字不正确的前面是叫亮紫色soogan I made sure that this character was not right in the front is called bright purple soogan.
所以我从这里随机取了一张静止的照片 So I took my still from random out here,
所以他在右边的图像中更小 so he is smaller in the image right,
所以你就会明白我在试图匹配我的白色图像 以使我的望远镜看起来正确 so you get the idea that I'm trying to match my images in the white to get my scopes looking correct.
那我们去开这家店吧 So let's go and take this shop.
我仍然保留了之前的参考擦除设置 I've still got my reference wipes settings from before,
所以它只是改变它们 so it's just change them,
好了 and there we go.
所以我现在可以很清楚地看到 我们从侧面看到了一个非常不同的景象 So what I can do now see quite clearly on here that we've got a much different look down on the side,
所以我真的要 so I'm gonna really,
我会尽快帮你查完的 I'm going through this quick as I can for you.
这是我的车 It's my wheels here,
下一个上场的是我 I'm going to be maluma next down,
我要向下抵消 and I'm going to offset down.
看这里 And look at these up here,
虽然有很大的区别 though there's a big difference,
所以我要得到一些事实 so I'm going to get some facts.
我专注于我的驳船和东南亚 I focus my barge and se Asia.
所以如果我带来收益 So if I bring gained,
因为Linux是零 and because Linux is zero,
它不会影响绿色和蓝色 it doesn't affect the green and blue.
它是绿色的 It's been the green,
把它们排好 just line them up,
蓝线也在上面 having blue line that up as well.
我当时甚至都没看那张照片 and I didn't even look at the image then,
你可以看到我们现在有 and you see that we've now got.
它会被压碎 it gets a little bit crushed.
你看 You see,
我们对黄昏有了更好的表现 we've got a much better representation of dusk.
搬进这家店 Moving into this shop,
这是另一个 so that's just another,
说 said,
我只是想给你们展示一下平衡两个完全不同的商店因为所有的平衡和内部都是一样的如果我有一些时间在这里玩的话可以很快给你们看 I just want to show you balancing two completely different shops because all very well balancing and interior that's identical whilst can show you super quick if I've got a few moments and play here doesn't have one one minute,
耶稣好了 Jesus all right,
我告诉你我要展示什么 I'll tell you what I was going to show.
你在一场演出后就扮演Sharenow的头 you play heads of Sharenow after one show.
如果你真的陷入困境 而且一切都很糟糕 If you're really stuck and it's all going really wrong.
好吧 okay.
这是这场戏的开场镜头 This is the opening shot for this scene.
好吧 OK,
现在是一种平衡 now is kind of balanced,
但还没到那个地步 but it's not quite there.
所以如果你想找点乐子 So if you're feeling like a bit of fun,
你能做的甚至是在同一个节点上 what you can do go on to it can be even on the same node.
我要用右手 I'm going a right hand.
点击图片 Click on the shot,
我想让它与 I want to match it to.
答案与剧本相符 Answer shot match to the script.
现在它是一种不饱和状态更符合这里的情况 And it's now a sort of de saturated that a little bit more to match what's going on in here.
好吧 All right,
有时它的工作原理 sometimes it works.
有时它不 Sometimes it doesn't.
一旦你时不时地粘上它 就会非常有趣 非常快 It's quite fun once you stick on every now and again just really super quick.
如果我有时间 if I've got time,
这里有一些技巧 here's some tips,
这是凯伦 so this is Karen.
我们之前说过 what we're saying before,
时不时地离开房间 leave the room every now and again.
如果他想平衡休假 If he's struggling with the balancing leave,
房间又来了 the room come again.
你应该每隔几个小时做一次 you should do that every few hours anyway.
可以重新开始 It's okay to start again.
如果出了问题 If it's going wrong.
删除旧的股票 不要让你的程序或只是删除枪毙伊朗 Deleted old stock and don't let your program or just delete the shot Iran.
有时你会更快地得到它 Sometimes you'll get it much quicker.
你可能推得太远了 You might have pushed and pulled too far.
提前回放一下场景 Play back the scene early,
所以你看到我了 so you saw me.
做三四个动作 Do that integrated three or four shots,
然后回放 then play it back.
不要给整个场景评分 然后回放需要做的事情 Don't grade the whole scene and then play it back of needing to do that as well,
但先回放一下 看看信任范围 but play it back early just to see trust scopes.
正如我提到的 它喜欢变化 And as I mentioned that it like changes,
用你的直觉 不需要精确匹配rgb So use your instincts don't have to exact rgb match.
我曾经做过一个电视广告 我让客户拿着一块布料 I did a TV commercial once and I had the client literally holding a piece of fabric.
这是一个布料广告 他们反对我们的颜色 It was a fabric commercial and they were holding against the color on us,
只是想让我跟它匹配 just trying to get me to match it,
那就是 which is,
我的意思是 I mean,
总是喜欢 that's always fond.
是的 Yeah,
我是最 I was the most.
我只是随波逐流 I just went with it.
这是我的Youtube频道 So here's my Youtube channel.
快速插入Youtube刚刚从奥斯汀搜索 Quick Plug Youtube just searched from Austin.
你会找到我停止我的份额 You'll find me stop my share.
所以当莉比在最后的时候 So that when a Libby quick at the end,
我没想到时间会过得这么快 I didn't realize the time is going to go that quick,
你知道时间总是不够的 you know there is never enough time.
我是百万新人 I'm a million new.
我们大概可以聊两个小时 We can probably talk for two hours.
好吧 OK,
谢谢你 thank you,
你用了一个Youtube上大部分视频都不会显示的东西 you use actually show something that most of the Youtube video don't show it.
我做了一个短的 I did one short,
美丽的 beautiful,
但我对整个序列所做的 but what I do for a whole sequence.
这是最重要的 That's what's important.
这是一个除非你在做 That's an unless you're doing,
你知道一个小广告 每一个镜头都是独立的 you know a small commercial where you have every shot by itself.
我们在连贯地讲述一个恒星故事 We were telling a story that the stellar story coherently.
所以谢谢你 So thank you,
达尔文 Darwin.
啊 Ah,
这是伟大的 it was great,
所以下一个是汤姆·普尔 so you got Tom Poole on next.
我相信如此 I believe so.
我明白了 I see,
我看到我坐在他们匆忙的广播时间里 I see I sit on their hurried airtime for us,
我说过是我最喜欢的 I told you is one of my favorite,
我喜欢那部电影和那些需要样本的小表演 I love that film and small acts that needed sample.
这是一个美丽的伟大的 That's just a beautiful great,
所以我 So am.
在你这么做之前我花了一大笔钱 I spent an honest going before you do this?
非常感谢 Thank you very much.
我第二天至少能坚持29分钟 I'm going at least twenty nine minutes over on the next day.
我会在木棍上呆上几年 I'm going to stay on the stick around for years,
汤姆 Tom,
那我回家的时候就得一身打扮 then I'm going to have to go home so cosmopolitan.
谢谢你和我一起畅所欲言 Thank you for joining a tongue edifies either man,
是公司高级调色师之一 Good one of the senior colorist at company,
三个纽约很有成就 three New York very accomplished.
你演的那部电影至少很精彩 There is the least of the movie you did is amazing.
我看到了庄稼歉收疫情爆发后我在电影院看的第一部电影 I saw actually crop failure first movie I saw in the theatre after the pandemic,
每次我看你演的电影 and every time I see a movie done by you,
我觉得自己很差劲 I look at myself in a way I suck.
我不知道 I don't know man,
他在我们的天王星上做了一些很好的事情 he'd done some really good stuff in our urania's.
让我们在那里 get us there,
你得到的村庄 the village that you get given an,
我很幸运能得到一些很棒的 I'm pretty fortunate to get some pretty great.
你有一些很棒的DP关系让我看起来很好当我得到伟大的确定 You have some pretty great DP Relationships that make me look good when I get the great definite,
所以我很幸运 so I'm lucky,
这是非常正确的 so that's very true that yeah,
怎么裁剪出来的 how was the thing cropping crap out?
垃圾输入 垃圾输入 垃圾输出 Garbage in garbage in garbage out,
我总是开玩笑说 一堆颜色的讽刺之处在于 你画得越好 I always joked the irony of a cluster of coloring is that the better you get,
工作越简单 the easier the job is,
因为你和更好的人一起工作 because you're working with better people.
讽刺的是 It's like the irony,
当你长出牙齿的时候 as you cut your teeth coming up.
每一本书都很难 Working on really difficult for each book,
很明显 obviously,
我认为在某种程度上它给了你所需的工具集 所以当你在那里的时候 I think in a way that gives you the tool set you then need so that when you are there,
你知道的 you know.
很明显 第二辆救护车会带来工作福利 Obviously working benefits come second ambulance.
它是漂亮 It's pretty,
这是很有趣的一小时 但是你得到的经验越多 it's pretty funny hour yet the more experience you get,
和你一起工作的村庄越容易 the easier of the villages that you're working with,
汤姆说 said so Tom.
和你在一起 With you,
我们想谈谈导演或演员摄影的关系 we want to talk about relationship relationship with director or actor photography,
视觉效果当你看一部有这么多人参与的电影时 visual effect how you approach a movie where there are all these people involved,
你知道你和他们的私人关系 and you know your personal relationship with all of them.
告诉我们 Tell us,
你工作吗 Are you work?
你的工作流程是什么 What's your workflow?
是的 Yeah,
你知道很多DP是我现在的同事 you know a lot of the DP is who I work with now,
她发出了类似于你的通告 and as she issued a similar to you.
我认为尤其是长形式 I think especially a long form.
你最终会得到这样的旋转 You end up with this sort of rotation.
可能是6到10个或者其他什么深度你和他们的关系真的很好 It may be six to ten or whatever deep is that you have really good relationships with that?
你经常每一两年和他们一起做一个项目 You're constantly every year or two doing a project with them policy.
一路上你会遇到新朋友 You meet new people along the way,
但我想我真的在努力发展 but I think I really try and develop.
友谊在韩国 Friendships in Korea,
和这些人保持良好的人际关系 good personal relationships with these people and you know,
有一个座位 have a seat.
这使得在房间里以速记的方式诚实变得容易得多 It makes honesty in the room in a shorthand that much easier.
首先我想 And so I think first off.
你知道的 You know,
与电影摄影师建立亲密的友谊和关系至少是其中一部分 developing those close friendships and those relationships with the cinematographer is at least a few of them.
它使沟通更容易和海外 It makes communication much easier and overseas.
你知道紫外线不适的舒适程度之类的 You know the comfort level of UV disagreeing and things like that,
但你是典型的民进党规则 but you are so typically what will happen as a DPP rule.
我们会打电话给我说 We'll call me up and say,
嘿 Hey,
你知道你是一个直接联系我的导演打电话给我说 you know you're a director who's direct relationships to call me up to say,
嘿 Hey,
我将向一个你十有八九会感兴趣的人拍摄这个项目 I'm going to be shooting this project to someone you'd be interested in nine times out of ten it with someone.
我和超级感兴趣的课程关系很好 I have a good relationship with the course on super interested,
他们会把剧本发给我的 they'll send me the script.
我每十年会读九次剧本 I'll read the scripts nine times out of ten may.
更 Be more,
我很喜欢这个剧本 也很愿意做这个节目 I love the script and commit to doing the show,
然后我就会参与其中 and then I'll be involved in.
你 you.
知道测试 Know the test,
从相机到相机 everything from camera to camera,
镜片测试和化妆测试 test lens test and makeup test,
我们经常用这个来开发一个节目 and we use that a lot of the time to develop a show look up,
偶尔会用到的桌子都被做成了幸运包 table there will be used occasionally has been times were all built like a luck package,
但我现在试着回避这个问题 用一个肩膀 然后建立一个CDR包 可以用来做一些繁重的工作 比如这些人穿的是神的衣服吗 but I've tried to kind of shy away from that now and kind of come up with one shoulder and then build a CDR package that can be used to do the heavy lifting for did the deity of the dailies guys wear?
我会在你的测试中告诉后海湾 I'll tell the deep bay in your tests,
你射日光钨越多 the more you could shoot daylight tungsten,
钠蒸汽更干净 sodium vapor for clearer.
在民用场合 在测试场合很难做到 In a civic and it's hard to do in a test situation,
但至少你知道 but at least you know,
给我一个例子 你是什么样的思考你的照明 give me an example of what you are kind of thinking for your lighting.
在此之前 根据这些测试构建一个CDR包 然后将其导入到生产环境中 Set up till then build a CDR package based off of those tests which then carries forward into the into production.
所以你基本上是一个粉丝 让我们在实际拍摄之前构建整个外观 而不是试图在它完成后用一个查看表锤子 So you are basically a fan of let's build the whole look before the actual shooting were not trying to hammer a look in with a look at table after it's done.
不 No,
我的意思是 I mean it's.
这很难 对吧 除非你真的看了电影 并对电影有了情感上的反应 it's difficult right because until you actually see the movie and have an emotional response to the movie.
你知道的 You know,
我认为这样做的好处是 至少你对导演想要在他们的日常生活中看到的美学有了一个大致的概念 I think the good thing about it is at least you're getting a rough idea of the aesthetic that the deep in the director want on their dailies.
这样你就不会被爱所诱惑 So that you don't end up with tempt love.
无论是从电影制作人还是制作人那里都不能代表他想要做的深度以平面为主 Either from the filmmakers or from produces that isn't representative of what the deep he is going to intend to do to predominantly flat or you know,
一个通用的排名 a generic rank,
七 九定律 seven and nine law,
或者是一些不具备这种能力的东西 or something that just doesn't have that.
营造出他们想要的氛围 Vibe that they're going to go for,
然后就变得很困难了 and then it becomes really difficult,
我敢肯定你也遇到过这样的情况 也许你所知道的日报编辑的是一个很扁平的人或者一个老太太 and I'm sure you've been in a situation to where maybe the dailies that you know that they've been editing with a quite flat or an old woman.
你开始玩 You start playing around,
特别是当你开始加入一些打印模拟时 especially if you start up throwing in some print emulation,
有很多胶片仿真 纹理和密度 lots of film emulation and grain and density,
你从黑色的一团往下走 and you go from a clump of black in a deeper curve.
对我们来说 它的细节很漂亮 and to us it looks beautiful to the detail.
根据男制片人和导演的经验 威尔逊觉得一切都太黑暗了 Experience for the men to producer and director Wilson freaks out that everything's too dark,
你知道的 You know,
是的 yeah,
有一种黑暗 there is that the darkness,
其主要提示 its mainly hint.
有时他们不想要 Sometimes they don't want it,
你如何 how you,
当你处于那种情况下 when you're in that situation,
所以DP真的很高兴 他们也会有一个制作人对你唠叨 so you have the DP is really happy and they will have a producer nagging you about this too.
你怎么踮脚太暗了 Dark is too dark how you tip toe.
那个特殊的时刻 That particular moment.
我的意思是 I mean,
这只是个案分析 最终 it's just case by case basis and ultimately.
你知道的 You know,
这是艰难的 it's tough,
但我的忠诚永远是对电影制作人的 but my loyalty is always to the filmmaker it doesn't.
有时我相信你也经历过 Sometimes I'm sure you've been in it.
你可能会陷入一些政治变革中 You can get stuck in some pretty political alterations,
但最终我还是被导演深深聘用了 but ultimately I'm hired by the director in the deepest way,
即使他们可能是 even though they may be,
大多数情况下 他们并没有为此付费 they are not paying for it most of the time.
这就是我的恋情不存在的地方 That's where my relationship isn't,
但我也不怕与别人和你意见相左 but I'm also not scared to disagree with somebody and disagree with you.
知道 Know.
很多时候我觉得自己是DP 可能会过度考虑自己需要推动什么 Plenty of times where I feel like a DP May be as overthinking how far they need to push something.
为了让你们知道 In order to you know,
有品位地表达自己 express themselves with grade,
你知道 and you know,
我觉得这要追溯到我们谈话的开始 I think that that goes back to the beginning about this conversation.
通过与你认识的人建立亲密的友谊和良好的创造性关系 by developing close friendships and good creative relationships with with people you know,
好的事情可能来自创造性的冲突和不同意 good things can come from from creative conflict and disagreeing.
你知道的 you know.
我知道我学过的最好的东西 and I know most of the best stuff I've ever learned.
当我被推出我的舒适区 It has been when I'd been pushed outside of my comfort zone,
也许它没有意识到我会想要创造一些东西 where maybe it wasn't aware I would think about creating something.
或者你知道 or maybe you know,
被推得比我想要的更远 有新的发现 being pushed further than maybe I want to go and something new is discovered,
所以我在被逼的过程中学到了很多 so I've learned a huge amount by being pushed,
所以真的 so it's just really.
这很困难 It's hard,
男人 man,
我的意思是 I mean,
你知道的 you know.
值得庆幸的是 Thankfully,
触摸木头 touch wood.
这并没有发生太多 我们认为这部电影的大量工作在导演的内心深处都有很大的创作自主权 It doesn't happen too much and thought that a huge amount of the film's our work on the directors in the deepest have a lot of creative autonomy.
你知道这很有趣 You know it was funny,
克鲁拉 doing Cruella,
显然是迪士尼的电影 which obviously being a Disney movie.
他们给了民主党的克雷格和尼古拉斯世界上所有的自治权 they gave Craig and Nicolas the DP All the autonomy in the world.
没有 There was not.
整部电影中大概有三个亮点非常棒 There was maybe like three notes on the whole film that that's amazing.
使吃惊 That's amaze,
特别是 为了更好的理解 我的意思是 我们绝对没有给它打分 especially which for which further for a look like that I mean it's quite it's quite we definitely didn't grade it,
你通常是如何给这样的电影评分的 how you it may be typically approach grading a film like that,
制作设计师也不是这样拍的 and they didn't shoot it that way either in the production designer,
它更像是 it was done a bit more like,
哦 uh,
一个传统的独立时期的作品或者其他东西会怎样 How may be a traditional independent period piece or something would be done,
所以现在他们还是卡罗拉 so now they still Corolla for a second.
我猜你有线索了 I'm assuming you had something.
一千种视觉效果 A thousand visual effects.
如何混合它们 How you blend them,
如何反馈给缺陷设施 how you feed back to the Defects facility.
一个 A.
这并不工作 This doesn't work,
我需要帮助 I need help.
我们很幸运 因为麦克斯 While we were really fortunate in that because Max,
他是最大的影响 he was the big effect.
西装是惊人的 Suit is amazing.
如果你有很好的视觉效果 And if you have a really good visual effects,
主管 supervisor.
你知道的 他把船管理得很好 Who is running that ship well and you know,
我认为最大的障碍显然是 I think the biggest hindrance obviously,
我认为对于调色师来说 我们是分板还是分网是当你花了这么多时间来平衡音阶的时候然后音阶的视觉在伽玛变换中很常见 I think for colorists is whether we graded plates or webs is when you spend all this time balancing and then the visual of finals so common in the Gamma shifts all over the place.
也可能是他现在对我有欲望 or it happened him desiring to me right now.
是的 Yeah,
我的意思是他们的成绩可能很棒 I mean that grade maybe they're great.
大胆尝试雕刻和视觉效果 浆果类的东西会隐藏一些东西 这可能是他们现在不能单独做的东西的边缘 dare do engraving and visual effects to try and kind of berry stuff will hide stuff that maybe it's like an edge to something that they can't quite now alone.
我说这很令人沮丧 and I said that that can be quite frustrating.
但是一把伞升起来了 But an umbrella risen.
不是这样的 It is not the case you know,
就像以前一样 it's like it was.
这是 It was,
跟你说实话 这简直是天衣无缝 it was pretty pretty seamless to be honest with you,
所以我很幸运 which so I was fortunate.
从这个意义上说 In that sense.
我的意思是 我拍的一些电影不是这样的 I mean I've done some movies where that wasn't the case,
这完全是一场噩梦 and it was a total nightmare.
老实说 Honestly,
这是yemi 你知道的 it's yemi you know what it's like.
当你起床时 When you get up.
那里会给你事实 那后肥皂的匹配是不反应的 there would give you the facts that the match of that post soap that is not reactive.
我也 I also,
我记得有一部电影有一个镜头出了问题 I remember one movie where there was a shot with a problem and the facility was,
我被诱导去点亮魔法 I am induced to lighten magic.
我把纸条寄了回去 Post部队害怕追踪艺术家吃 and I sent the note back and the Post Troop was afraid to trail the artist ate.
有一个问题 There is a problem.
这是我们的问题 It's our problem at hand.
我刚看完 星球大战 I just finished Star War.
我知道你想让我直接打给那些人 I know those guys you want me to call the guy directly.
我认识他 I know the guy.
有时很难 因为第一个应该帮助你 so sometimes it's difficult because the first one that should help you.
这实际上没有帮助 It's actually not helpful.
不 No,
我的意思是 I mean,
是的 yeah,
我的意思是 I mean,
当他把它放进一些更大的电影里 when he stuck it into some of the bigger films.
你知道的 You know,
它是 it's,
你知道的 you know,
除了成为一名熟练的调色师 beyond just being a skilled colorist,
你必须是一名优秀的政治家 you have to be a good politician and.
你管理着很多不同性格的不同期望 You're managing a lot of different expectations in a lot of different personalities,
特别是在最大的员工中 especially on the biggest staff,
我认为这本身就是一个巨大的学习曲线 and I think that's a huge learning curve in itself.
当你开始这样做的时候 When you start doing that,
你知道的 you know.
每个孩子的占主导地位 Every kid's predominate,
作为一种商业色彩出现了很多年 came up for years as a commercial colors,
然后开始独立开发这些独立电影这是作为一棵树最好的体验 and then started moving into kind of independent development on those independent films that it was the best experience ever as the tree.
他不理会任何在深处认识导演的人 he didn't answer to anyone who knew the director in the deep,
他把它变成了你想要的样子 he made it what you want it to be.
如果它被卖掉了 and if it does go that got sold,
就是这样 and that was it.
太棒了 It's great.
是的 Yeah,
这肯定要复杂一点 it's definitely a little bit more complex.
在岸上那颗更大的星星上 On the bigger star from the shore.
你还记得 Do you remember,
你最近一次拍独立电影是什么时候 你觉得这种经历怎么样 还是太熟悉了 which was the last time you took an independent movie and how was the experience or is too familiar?
没有 None,
我的意思是 I mean,
我现在还在拍很多独立电影 I still do a lot of independent film like it's,
这是你知道的 it's something that you know.
我从来没有 I never.
捡起 Pick up,
选择一个项目要基于它能给公司带来多少钱 pick a project based on how much money it's going to make the company on myself.
我现在总是去喜欢小表演系列 I always go by now to like the small acts series.
现在 Now,
即使是BBC even though it was BBC,
亚马逊 an Amazon,
没有 there was not.
有非常 There was very,
那节目赚的钱很少 very little money on that show.
基本上有一笔股权交易 和伦敦的邮政设施捆绑在一起 it would Basically there had been a post equity deal there had been strapped up with a post facility in London.
和史蒂夫 And Steve,
这是在还没有人跟史蒂夫和艾弗说过话之前就完成的 it was done before anyone had even spoken to Steve and Ive oversee dens,
小偷 thieves,
和他一起看了一堆电影 a bunch of movies with him,
他说 不 and he was like no,
(我需要时间做这件事 ) I need time to do it.
基本上 Basically,
我们最终匹配了股权交易后的情况 we ended up matching whenever the post equity deal was,
或不是 or it wasn't.
是否特别 Whether is a particular,
你知道的 you know,
一个包 a package,
交易或者其他 deal or whatever?
但我并不在乎如何整合 为不同的免费自从这样一个如此伟大的机会 But I didn't care how integrated that for different free ever since such a such a great opportunity.
但是 是的 And but yeah,
我拍了一部叫BlueBy的独立电影 I think I did a movie called Blue By which was an independent film,
她被贾斯丁·乔恩收买了 and she got bought by focused with Justin Chon,
一部很棒的电影 a great great movie,
应该是一个罐子 which is Gonna be a can.
是的 Yeah,
我还在为她争取荣誉做很多独立的事情 I still work on her honor on a lot of independent stuff.
我刚做的 I just did.
一部与梅兰妮合作的法国独立电影 An independent French film with Melanie.
劳伦特和尼古拉斯在他们的克鲁拉上用了这个我开枪打死了美丽 Laurent with Nicholas used that the DPP on their cruella I shot and found Beautiful,
法国电影和理论家 a French movie and theorist.
但我还是在这里研究了很多独立的国家 But I still do a lot of independent states here.
假设有人想和3号公司合作 so let's say there's somebody want to work with company three.
他们能直接要求你吗 还是取决于你是否免费 Can they request you directly or it's just depending on your free or not?
这是一个转弯的问题 It's a question of turning the line.
是的 Yeah,
我的意思是 I mean,
所以通常情况下 so typically,
事情是这样的 有时候他们会在我的Instagram上被直接看到 how what happened is they get hit up direct sometimes through my Instagram,
有时是通过一个仓库的朋友的朋友 sometimes through a friend of a friend of a depot in all other times,
吉姆的花园 Jim Garden,
我们在纽约或者连续三个雅克 ourselves down in New York or Jacques three in a row.
是什么告诉我 What hit me up and say,
嘿 Hey,
你想知道吗 do you want to know?
你对这个项目感兴趣吗 Are you interested in this project?
你知道的 You know,
我很想对任何事都说 是 I'd love to be able to say yes to everything,
但你一天只有二十个小时 but you only have one twenty hours a day.
是的 Yeah,
我是我个人的终结 I'm an end for me personally,
就像 like,
我是一个我做不到的人 I am somebody that I cannot do.
像那样漫长的日子 Long days like that,
我宁愿 I would rather.
我宁愿 I would rather,
我认为 I think,
对我来说 for me,
我认为 I think,
工作就像现在 working like now,
就像11点12分 like eleven twelve out,
我对这个很在行 I am good with that anything more.
我的意思是 I mean,
显然 看电影的关键时刻和视觉效果在最后一刻出现 obviously looking at crunch time on a film and visual effects to come in at the eleventh hour,
诸如此类的事情 and all this kind of stuff.
但我强迫自己接受一切就是这样 But I feel forcing myself just to say yes to everything is that that's it.
这是我必须学习的技能 That's a skill that I have had to learn.
你也会拒绝一些事情有时候会开始 As well as saying no to stuff and it sometimes it starts,
特别是有时候 and sometimes especially you know,
因为我现在大部分时间都花在了电视节目上 because most of my time now is taken up with features and TV.
很多时候 一个类似的伟大的广告和音乐视频 人们想要工作 There's a lot of times a similarly great commercials and music videos and people want to work.
我很乐意去做 And I'd love to do it.
我有一个家庭 我吃他们 因为我们的自我意识有时会说 I have a family and eat them as our egos learning to say now sometimes,
是的 yeah,
你从事现场模拟工作吗 do you work with field simulation?
你是否喜欢现场模拟是你在项目中用到的东西 Do you like field simulation is something that you employed in your project.
你不知道什么 So what don't you know?
这很有趣 It was interesting right,
所以当我开车的时候 so when I did drive,
这是 which was,
我想我拍的第一部Alexa电影 I think the first Alexa movie that I did,
这是宣传 it was preached.
我的意思是 那时候是前吼 I mean back then it is pre roar.
它基本上不会去射击过于草率的委员拴在沙子上 It would never basically go shooting too hasty commissars tethered on sand.
我在实验室用过一个孕妇 I used a pregnant at a lab,
纽约的技术人员 因为他们很幸运 the Technical in New York for an emulation luck on that.
我想你也知道 And I think you know it was,
这是非常快速的 整个等级和地震 我认为很多好酒只是因为它的本能 it was very running gun that that that whole grade and by quake and I think a lot of wine that good was just because it was instinctual,
它原本只是一个很短的时间 然后我们打算在戛纳电影节结束后重新审视这部电影 and it was originally just going to be like a very quick past before can and then we were going to revisit the movie after Cannes.
但董事 But the directors,
喜欢它 like it,
看起来不错 looks good,
所以为什么要搅乱它呢 so why mess with it?
这是完成了 It's done.
但这是真的 but that was true.
在上面打印仿真 我用的是背面 Print emulation on that and I was using back.
那时我们还在为印刷发行制作电影输出 Then we were still in the very tail end of doing film outputs for print distribution,
所以我们仍然用 so we would still use.
打印机模拟从技术的角度来看 Printer emulation lots from a technical standpoint,
即使是数码拍摄 even for digital capture,
我相信你也参加了 and I'm sure you enter it too,
但有时候真的很热 but sometimes it was really hot right,
你做了你使用的这些土地主要是用来建造一个原木胶片架 you did you are using these lots that were predominantly used built for in a log film stands.
当你用它们的时候 When you're using them on these,
无论是支持 即使是这样一个衡量进步的项目 whether it's to back that even such a program to gauge progress,
卢克索不错的边缘 the Luxor Good edge.
你知道 And you know,
绿色通道就会被剥离 你会看到黄色绿色的叶子 肤色看起来就像荒芜的橡皮泥 the green Channel just would get stripped and you would have like the yellowy green leaves and skin tone would look like it was plasticine over their barren.
这有点令人沮丧 And it was kind of frustrating,
但我仍然在使用它们 寻找博物馆的方式 实现商业是正确的 在一点点我喜欢使用的电影模拟和数字镜头 and but I was still used them and to find ways of museum is achieving commercial was right on a honed in a little bit how I like to use the film emulation and digital footage.
我有两种方法 And there's two ways I do it.
我敢打赌他废弃了打印仿真的亮度元素 就像曲线中的黑色故事中的肩膀 I have one where I bet he disused the luminance element of a print emulation lot where as the shoulder in the tale of the blacks in the curve.
然后我有了彩色符号 But then I had color signs.
退回到实际发生的彩色事件 Dial back on the actual chromatic happening,
你知道的 you know,
但我经常做的另一件事是 我会用一个非常干净的污点在另一个干净的肩膀后面 but then another thing I often do is I'll use a very clean blot on the back end of the another clean shoulder.
然后我会让你们使用电影模拟 And then I'll let you use film emulation.
但我用了一个输入键 只使用了它的一半 But I used a key input key and just use like fifty per cent of it,
或者说百分之四十是百分之六十 or forty percent of it was sixty per cent of it.
虽然我喜欢用这个 And while I kind of like using the looked at that,
胶片印友好地在悬崖边发现了一部操纵胶片 the film print amicable found a film of manipulation on the cliff side.
因为你总是可以在它后面添加一个节点 Because you can always add a node after it.
所以如果你想保留一种特定的颜色 So if you want to keep a particular color without being kind of,
你知道的 you know,
特别是红色或者绿色或者其他可能有限制的东西在后面的左边有时可能会有点限制 如果你想的话 especially like a red or where green or something that may be having that restriction on the left of the back end can sometimes be a bit restrictive if you want,
我想要一把钥匙 I'd like a key,
一种特殊的颜色或别的什么 a particular color or something.
哦 Oh,
这是有道理的 that makes sense,
它是有意义的 it makes sense,
我是说我们终于 I mean we are finally,
除了 except,
你知道的 you know.
非常 Very.
很少有案例不是一定要回到电影的 所以这解放了很多艺术史 Very few cases were not bound to go back to film so that free up a lot the art history.
在这一点上 At this point,
我告诉她 I tell her,
我还是用我在一个有权势的人身上涂的颜色 很有趣 I still color the same way I colored on a powerful man like it's so funny,
我看到每个人都在做非常复杂的成绩 like I see everyone doing that very complex grades,
我可能只用 and I probably only use.
百分之十的决心能力 Like ten percent of the capabilities of resolve.
我们这里很多人都这么做 A lot a lot of us do that over here.
像这样 like that,
我想说 I would say,
有时候你就是没有时间 sometimes you just don't have time.
是的 Yeah,
但我如何做我的国王和一切我仍然手动 but how I even do my king and everything I still manually.
齐离开了木匠 Qi leaves the carpenter.
对胶片拍摄的东西和数码拍摄的东西评分的方法有什么不同吗 Is there a difference in approach if your grading something shot on film or something shot on the digital?
嗯 Um,
是的 yeah,
我的意思是 I mean,
看电影 look film.
当地的 The local,
最深的光线是如何嵌入的 how that the deepest lighting is much more embedded.
菲尔 And Phil,
你知道的 you know,
我是说像你今天这样 I mean like you today.
如果他们决定隐瞒什么 If they decided to under expose something.
肯定的是 Sure,
有一些现实可以挖掘出来 there's some reality to be able to dig it out,
但它跟你不一样 but it's not like a digital like you.
看看这些摄像机 Look at these cameras now,
对于民主党来说 要把他们的意愿强加在民主党的Sheets胶片上就困难得多了 and it's much harder for the DPJ is to impose their will on the footage of a DP with Sheets film.
他就像 and he's like,
我想让这黑暗 I want to make this dark.
天要黑了 It's gonna be dark.
在其他时间我们只能用他的颜色来编写新的代码 there's only so much at other times we can do his colours to write new code.
你只是在一个黑色的东西上升起死空间 You are just lifting dead space on a black or something.
但我还是没有找到负面的 Yet still I didn't hit the negative.
然后我有一年 then I get a year,
那么就像你知道的那样 有时会发生什么 then as it is about it is you know which sometimes can be?
我的意思是 I mean,
如果这能成为一种祝福 if it could be a blessing than other times,
最终的情况是 有人生产或者有人想要正确的产品 you ended up in a situation where people produces or someone who wanted it right,
它会进来 it would come in,
他们会相信拉伸薄膜会给他们更多 and they would be convinced that stretching the film was giving them more,
尽管事实并非如此 even though it wasn't.
上面只有死灰色的黑色 It's just a dead grey black over them.
但我想说的是 这是与数码技术最大的区别 And yet I would say that's the biggest differences with digital,
尤其是在感官 especially with senses.
现在我们可以好好挖掘一下了 Now we can really dig at a time you know.
用这个 With this,
看到有人问当你和GDP主管做那些初步的测试时你创造了这个表情 see someone is asking when you do those preliminary tests with the director of the GDP and you create the look.
这是他们付钱买的还是因为你知道他们会和你一起拍电影而包装上的东西 Is that something that actually they pay for it or something that is on the package because you know they are going to work with you on the movie?
哦 Oh,
是的 yeah,
我很确定都藏在原来的床底下 I'm pretty sure all goes under the the original bed,
我几乎可以肯定 and I'm almost positive,
你知道的 you know,
是的 yeah,
我想是的 I would think so.
我从来没有做过测试 也没有拍过电影 I've never had I'd never done a test and then not done the film they then.
是的 Yes,
然后可能安娜 then probably Anna,
埃尔莎 Elsa.
是的 Yes,
说实话 I can I honestly,
我不知道 I don't know.
我可能会发现你是诚实的 I could probably find out to be honest.
你最喜欢的是什么 Now what's the yours you're most?
小薇礼貌地拒绝了我们的客户 Wei was polite way to say no to our client.
不 No,
因为他们可能要求你做的事是不可能的 because what they may ask you to do is impossible,
困难的 difficult,
或者只是一个错误的选择 or just a wrong choice.
眼睛也可以很漂亮 The eye can be pretty.
我没有多少额外的补丁和犯罪记录 I don't have much of an added patches and crimes.
所以你不知道 So you don't know,
现在你会注意到 and now you'll notice,
他们说 they say,
你觉得呢 what do you think?
我就像手术后报废了一样 I be like scrapped from surgery.
我漂亮 I'm pretty,
我很直接 I'm pretty direct,
我是认真的 每当我不同意别人的意见时 我都会这样说 I mean this and I say this whenever I disagree with someone,
如果董事或DP对我感到失望 因为我不同意他们的观点 我就告诉他们 if a directors get or a DP is getting frustrated with me because I disagree with them and I say to them.
我不同意 因为我在乎 I disagree because I care.
你知道的 You know,
我半辈子所做的一切 all I've done for half my life.
你坐在暗室里 You sit in the dark room.
在很长一段时间里观察那些错综复杂的图像 Looking at images in the intricacies that you kind of pick up on over a long period of time,
i 我也很肯定 like you have m sure as well.
我只是这不是我的问题 I'm only it's not about me like you know,
因为它的颜色我们得不到太多的认可和赞扬 because its color as we don't get a huge amount of recognition and praise,
我不介意 因为如果摄影是赞美的话 which I'm fine with because if the cinematography is praise,
这对我来说已经足够了 that's enough for me,
但你知道 but you know,
我告诉他们 当我不同意他们时 I tell them like when I disagree with them,
我是说我从来没有 I mean I've never.
我种过类似的东西 I grow anything like it.
我们不想成为一条路 We don't want to be a road,
你知道的 you know.
是的 Yeah,
但我会像你一样 but I'll just be like you.
如果 如果 如果这个保险真的很激烈 If if if it really gets heated in this insurance,
少让他们说话 少听他们说话 have their say less than to sit with it.
如果你在接下来的游戏中仍然感到困扰 and if it still bothers you on the next play through.
将推 will tweeted.
跟我说说现在 Tell me about now.
你喜欢创作黑白美学吗 Do you like to work on the black and white aesthetic?
我知道你 I know you,
你知道你的生活中有照片 you know you did photo in your life.
你做了黑白分明的事 you did black and white.
这是你喜欢拍的电影吗 Is it something that you like Enjoy to do as a movie,
还是你更喜欢静止的图片 or do you prefer just for still picture No,
我喜欢黑色和白色 I love black and white.
我的意思是 I mean,
我做到了 I did.
马尔科姆记忆大系列尖锐 Malcolm Memory Large series with sharp,
黑白胶片 black and white film.
还有一些海外项目是黑白分明的 Then a bunch of oversea are the black and white projects.
这个音乐录影带是短形式的 The music video is short form.
黑市上唯一棘手的事就是弄到你知道的 The only tricky thing sometimes with the black market is getting that you know.
P3是黑白的 P3看起来是绿色的 绿色的 for P three true black and white and P three looks kind of green green and going out,
所以你觉得这很好 and so you're finding that finding that nice,
他几乎要去看p3 he almost had to tend to the P three.
你也知道 You know too,
特别是如果你只是为了得到正确的胶片 especially if you're working with film just to get that right,
你知道的 you know,
黑白色调应该去掉一点绿色的通道 black and white tone should take a little of the green channel out.
我补充道 I added.
我做的一件事 当我不得不黑白分明 One thing I do when I have to the black and white,
我总是问 你想要胶卷吗 I always asked the question Do you want film,
黑白或数码 black and white or digital,
黑与白就像我们被效仿 black and white like the we were emulate.
就像一个真正的打印投影 而且更温暖 like it's a real print production projection and it's warmer,
暖和得多 it's much warmer,
我的意思是 I mean,
我总是用一些类似电影的东西在黑白上织布机 I always use some semblance of a film loom a curb on black and white.
只是因为 just because.
黑白有一种倾向 There's a tendency with black and white,
你也一样 you too,
你知道的 you know,
添加对比 add contrast,
相比之下 Contrast,
你知道每当有人说我可以增加一点对比每当你像修剪办公室一样修剪大脑总是会像月亮一样反应 you know whenever someone says I can add a bit more contrast whenever you trimmer on an office like the brain is always going to react like the moon,
信任更好 and trust is better.
所以至少如果你有一个薄膜肩膀当你开始压碎东西时 发光的肩膀 So at least if you have that that film shoulder that luminous shoulder when you start crushing stuff,
至少它强调的方式仍然很好 仍然模仿 at least it highlights arose often in a way that still nice and still emulates how,
就像过度曝光的王子那样 like an overexposed prince would be or something.
所以我总是用一些类似电影的东西 so I always use some semblance of a film.
即使是数码黑白 Even with digital black and white,
会有数字 there'd be digital,
黑色和白色 black and white,
就像一艘沉船 just like a wreck.
7 seven,
八个 eight,
九个 nine,
黑白两色的休息 black and white kind of repose,
和他的经理有点关系 his manager about a little bit.
这有点太苛刻了 It's a little bit too harshly.
我才发现 黑的给女佣的 白的两个分开 I just find out the black to the maid to the white two separated.
它没有任何平滑的图像 It doesn't have any of that smoothness across the image,
比如我在看一个美丽的黑白照片王子之类的东西 like if I'm looking at a beautiful black and white photographic princes and thing you know.
假设你要创作一部经典电影 Let's say you have to create a classic film.
看 Look,
有人问你 somebody ask you,
我想要经典的五六十岁 want something classic for all my own fifty or sixty.
你能解释一下吗 Can you explain me?
思维过程 the thought process,
经典的哪一部分是你的经典 以及你如何在造型的创造中实现它 which which part of the classic is for your classic and how you implement it in the creation of the look,
他们的东西 they stuff right.
我的意思是 I mean,
如果最近没有显示出我们复制的原因 if it didn't show recently why we were kind of replicating,
喜欢三道严格的特彩工艺 like the three strict Technicolor process.
你知道的 You know,
它是 it's,
我认为 I think,
很多时候 a lot of times,
你知道的 you know,
人 people.
他们知道他们所想的是什么和它实际的样子是什么 They have an idea of what they think it is versus what it actually looks like.
当你看三次脱衣的真实例子时 When you look at real examples of three stripping and so much of that whole aesthetic,
以及生产设计的方式 他们只是阻止光在一切 as well as production designed the way they were just blocks light on everything.
他们的服装 他们化妆的方式有很多细节 不仅仅是化学过程带来了很多美感 Wardrobe that the way they do make up like there was a lot of specifics beyond just the chemical process that brought on the aesthetic of a lot of those.
但是当我想到这个的时候 But when I think about this,
这类股票更常被引用 this sort of stocks that are more commonly referenced,
硅酸盐就像柯达胶卷一样犯罪 silicate like Kodachrome bagged a crime.
所以 And so,
是的 yeah,
首先 I'll predominantly start with.
如果真有人想这样 If someone really wants that,
看 look,
我使用一个完全限制的仿真满足 I use a fully restrictive for an emulation met.
也许我会说 Maybe what I'll do is I'll say,
哦 Oh,
我已经赢了 I have won.
垃圾旅馆建造了我 The junk hotel built me,
它没有用true得到的黄色高光 which doesn't have quite have a yellow highlight that you would get using a true.
你知道的 You know,
漂亮的仿真 pretty emulation.
运气是你在模仿 Luck is you're emulating,
比如11英尺半的兰伯特·怀特尖顶 like an eleven and a half twelve foot Lambert White point,
这和你在这个院子里的真实情况相比 which is quite warm versus your true this yard,
14英尺朗伯 fourteen foot Lambert.
所以我会保留 So I'll kind of keep.
它离开了 但可能不是那么黄 也不像夹在蓝色的海峡 It rode off but may be not quite so yellow and not quite as clamped on the blue channel.
是的 Yeah,
他们现在是一个挪威卡特尔是公司的珊瑚科学家的颜色科学 they are now for good as a Norwegian cartel is the color science at coral scientist at Company,
三 Three,
与迈克·利(MikeLeigh)暂时合作 in collaboration with Mike Leigh on a break.
对他大声喊一声 Take big shout out to him.
一辆埃默里汽车已铺开 An Emory laid out.
是的 Yeah,
你知道的 you know,
他们都是很棒的人 很棒的合作者 just just wonderful people and great collaborators,
我想他现在了解色彩师了 and I think he knows colorists now.
这就像是对色彩科学的基本理解你的收获是必须的 It's like a fundamental understanding of color science and an evolving that side of your gain is is is like imperative.
我认为这是成功的 I think it's a success and you know.
家里有四个人 他们没有颜色科学家 for four people at home they don't have a color scientist.
实际上 我在不止一部电影中使用了相同的标准分辨率 I actually for more than one movie used the standard resolve the same block they are given within us all there.
有一个很好的起点来建立一个电影色调的外观 There are pretty nice starting point to build a filming tonal look.
是的 Yeah,
我的意思是 I mean,
听着 listen,
我 I,
啊 ah,
你不需要太多就能取得好成绩 you don't need a lot to be able to do nice grades.
我的意思是这个很明显 I mean this obviously look.
有很多繁重的工作 我认为很多人都能做到 There's a lot of heavy lifting that I think a lot can do,
当你在做一个节目 你有成千上万的镜头 which when you're doing a show and you have thousands of shots.
他的伟大看起来是一种美学 没有很多东西是无法实现的 His greatness look a certain aesthetics that can't be achieved without a lot.
也许你可以很接近它 Maybe you can grade pretty close to it.
这是相当困难的 It can be pretty tough,
但其中一个大秘密 but one of the big secrets.
有一天我说 and I said this the other day,
我在使用大量之前是如何使用降级的 how I used degraded before I use lots is if you have your lift game again,
我会把左边换成黑色 以保持亮点 I would keep my highlight by taking my left my black,
把它们卷成白色然后以一种奇怪的方式突出显示 winding them up to white and then king that highlight in and in a weird way.
这样做的目的是让你的高亮键更加柔和 而不是使用游戏来保持灯光 What that does is it gives you that same kind of soft shoulder to your highlight key rather than using the games to keep your lights.
这是你可以做的一件事 so that's one thing you can do.
成就很高的人 The kind of high achievers,
微软 白色 slightly soft and white.
另一个问题是 Now another question that it particularly,
你知道这让我很痛苦 you know pain me.
你有没有遇到过这样的情况 你去剧院看早期的成长 然后看其他的 did it happen to you that you go to the theater are like you know you go see growth early on and look at the other,
它看起来一点也不像你创造的 and it doesn't look anything like you created.
你有多痛苦 How much pain is that for you?
每当我去电影院的时候 我都在我身边 I am at me whenever I would go to the movie theater.
我很少花钱去看电影 I was very rarely with a pay to go and see a movie.
在我完成之前 我已经在基础上工作了 I worked on a basis by the time I'm done.
我永远不想看到那个人影 I never want to see the figure,
至少从现在起四五年 at least for like four or five years from now,
随便看看 我发现它看起来很漂亮 randomly look at it and realized it actually look nice,
我很享受 and I enjoy it.
我很喜欢它 I enjoyed it.
唯一一部你和观众一起看的电影是 开车 因为我真的很想看 The only movie actually pay Dad you go see with an audience was drive because I really wanted to see,
我大部分时间都在看观众 而不是看屏幕上的反应 and I spent most of the time just watching the audience rather than watching the screen just against the reaction.
但在大多数情况下 But for the most part,
在大多数情况下 for the most part,
我会去看电影 I would go and watch a movie,
如果我参与制作的电影在播放 and if a movie I worked on was playing,
我会把头伸进剧院里 只为找到发泄的方式 I'd put my head in the theater just to see outlet.
百分之九十九的几率 And ninety nine times out of a hundred.
我只是感到羞愧 I just be like mortified,
特别是如果是连锁电影院的主旋律 especially if it's one of the leitmotifs chain movie theaters,
并看到你的自我或什么东西 他们喜欢拖晚光 and see your ego or something where they like dragging the late light.
灯泡的寿命用掉灯泡来省钱 The lamp life out of the bulbs to save money.
是的 Yeah,
这是我一直告诉你的事情 it's stuff that I always told you know,
很多德里克是一个关键的部分 有时把它提到现在 A lot of Derek is a key piece of sometimes bring that up to now be like,
哦 Oh,
但剧院里的灯泡会变暗 but that bulbs get dimmer in the theater.
和迈克不打分 and Mike don't grade.
是的 Yeah,
就像Ipad上的渐变 it's like it's a gradient on Ipad.
是的 Yeah,
我的意思是 I mean,
这就像他们遇到了完美的校准你在剧院里看到的显示器 it's like where they met the perfect calibration you are seeing on the theater with the monitor.
这是底线 that's the line in the sand.
它总是左边和右边的变量 That's always going to be variables to the left and right there,
也许一个球茎是绿色的 紫红色的 maybe one bulbs green magenta.
也许我有过粉色或浅色的 谁知道呢 Maybe one I've had is pink or light who the hell knows,
我总是这么告诉他们 and so I always tell them.
让它看起来好一点 Just get it looking good.
你觉得这里怎么样然后再把它送进人间 How do you like it here and then send it off into the world.
现在你是第一批获准进入运动学院的有色人种之一 Now you are one of the first colour is admitted that the Academy of Motion,
图片和科学 Picture and Science.
你觉得他的工作跟他们谈这个问题 and do you think his work to talk to them about this problem,
喜欢 为什么 like why,
现在我们有了数字投影 now that we have digital projections,
它们甚至还远未达到可以校准的程度 they are not even close to be calibrated.
有时候就是很痛苦 Sometimes it's just painful.
是的 Yeah,
我的意思是 I mean,
我认为 I think.
你知道18个月后的海湾 You know the cove in eighteen months,
或者我们所反对的可能会稍微阻碍这些讨论 因为我认为他们最终只是想让人们回到影院 or whatever we just counter is probably going to hinder some of those talks a little bit because I think ultimately they just want to get people back in the theaters,
所以你知道这很好 and so you know it's been good.
看到一些制造商现在开始制作电影 Seeing some of the manufacturers now make filmmaker mode,
我宁愿人们在更大的屏幕上看ipad和iphone 或者至少校准得相当好 接近记录的7或9个 the Ipads and the Iphones in the notes I would rather people look at on a bigger screen or at least calibrated pretty good and close to a record seven or nine,
我希望他们不要做真正的小镇之类的事情 and I wish they wouldn't do true town and all that kind of stuff,
因为我认为至少 because I think at least.
开箱即用 因为它会让所有东西都变成黄色 Out of the box have it off because it makes everything in yellow.
这不是我最好的选择 你可以用它来喝啤酒 It's not the best I have it as an option that you can turn on beer.
在大多数情况下 For the most part,
你知道的 you know,
家庭录像的东西越来越好了 而且我觉得你认识很多人 the home video stuff is getting better and I think you know people.
我认为人们 I think people,
尤其是消费者 especially of even consumers,
也变得越来越精明 are becoming more savvy too.
美学和你知道的 Aesthetic and the idea of you know,
准确观察环境 accurate viewing the environments,
不仅仅是我们在专业领域 and it's not just us that in the professional fields,
我认为人们也变得越来越精明了 I think people are becoming more savvy too.
现在我很抱歉 Now I'm sorry,
我知道在公司有三种特定的颜色是如此忙碌 以至于他们很大程度上依赖于其他调色师的预计时die I know at company three certain colours that are so busy that they rely a lot on a pre timing die by other colorist.
你从开始到结束的过程 Do you do from beginning to end all your process,
或者你要依靠别人来帮助你 我的意思是 有时候这取决于项目 可能会主导电视 我的大多数老师说 不 or you rely on other people helping you to know I mean occasionally that it depends on the project could dominate TV it most most of my teachers that no,
我会做一切 I'll do everything.
因为你知道 Because you know,
但有时在电视上 but sometimes on TV,
接下来我要做的可能是试播集 what will happen is I'll do may be the pilot episode,
因为这将超过我强调的饮食和db的关系可能是试播集和另外一两个集 for that will outdo the emphasized that the diet and the db that I have the relationship with which is probably maybe the pilot and another one or two episodes,
但主要是在电视上 but mostly in TV.
只是因为我不知道我所做的工作 just because I don't where the amount of feed your work and stuff I do,
我用另一种颜色表示 I'll work with another color is,
但我不做所有的预计时的事情 或者实际上 我会把那个人和我一起作为一个调色师 这是他们所能做的 建立他们自己的四倍 but I don't do the whole like pre timing thing or actually give that I'll bring that person on with me as a colorist that that's all that they had the ability to build their own fourfold.
是的 Yeah,
我的意思是 I mean,
我的意思是那些对我来说很重要的事情 I mean that which is really important to me right and I think also,
如果有人觉得他们拥有项目的所有权 if someone feels like they have ownership of the projects as well as they're getting,
颜色就是荣誉 a color is credit.
这里面有一种骄傲这里面有一种骄傲 There's a pride in that there's a pride and in in in that credit,
所以我总是想尽一切办法确保我不会 and so I've always gone out of my way to to make sure that I don't.
当我给一个色彩师评分的时候给他们额外的色彩评分同时也要监督高级画廊老板的色彩 Give additional color credits whenever I gave a colorist credit and also all be supervising colors to senior gallerist,
可能还有另一种颜色 and there might be another colors.
我几乎所有的功能都是从零开始 Most nearly all my features I'm just doing from from scratch,
偶尔我也会得到帮助 and occasionally I'll get help,
但只有在必要的时候 but only if it's out of necessity,
萨姆特堡 Sumter,
想象一下 你是一名刚开始染发的人 你已经做好了基本的准备 So imagine for a second that you are a starting colorist you have the basics down,
你知道的 you know,
一个解决的基于你使用的任何东西 a resolved based like whatever you use.
你会建议我从一个初级的后期制作人员做起吗 Will you recommend to start as a junior in a postproduction facility as a freelancer,
我的意思是 一个人是如何积累技能的 I mean how somebody can build up the skill,
让欧洲的穷人成为一个有成就的色彩师 the poor for Europe to become an accomplished colorist.
我认为现在有趣的是一些年轻人 一些人正在成长 I think what's interesting now is that the younger guys that a few people that are coming up now.
他们觉得学习软件对他们来说就像是第二天性 They've come up where learning software to them is like second nature,
他们可以坐下来 我想在一个周末学习原始细胞和它们的租借蛋白质 they can sit down and I want to learn protocells and their loan proteins in a weekend.
你知道对我来说 You know for me,
他的老疙瘩跟你在同一条船上 his older lumpy at you in the same boat as they're like,
学习软件就像我提到过的 learning software was like I've mentioned this,
我们推出了一个新软件 a new piece of software we come out like you know,
我来自他的手处理电影实验室的一面 I come from the hands on him handling film lab side of it.
这就是我的背景 That was my kind of background,
所以你知道 and so it's you know,
我不知道我是否赶上了 and I don't know I've caught up.
但不像现在的年轻人 but not like the younger guys coming up now.
我认为成为一名好的调色师非常重要的不仅仅是被攻击或者有一个好的眼睛 I think what is such so important to becoming a good colorist is not just about being attacked or even having a good eye,
沟通技巧和管理人们的期望是非常主观的 it's communication skills and and managing people's expectations of a very subjective.
艺术或更多 Art or more,
或者是行业和媒体的一部分真的是颜色 or a part of the industry and media is really colors,
一件既好又坏的怪事 a weird thing that is definitely good and bad.
但一个人爱另一个人有对与错吗 but is there a right or wrong in one person to love is another person's?
嘿 Hey,
这很难管理 it's a difficult thing to manager,
我认为你可以接受一个真正擅长管理的人的指导 and I think that you can buy being mentored by someone who is really good at managing around.
你会学到很多东西 比如我在伦敦的工厂 还有那些教我亚当·斯科特进球的人 You learn a huge amount like I came up at the mill in London and the guys who taught me the Adam Scott found in the goal.
他们真的很擅长管理房间 我年轻的时候学到了很多东西 They were really good at managing the room and I had learned so much as a young guy.
你知道的 You know,
我从他们那里学到了很多如何控制别人 I learned so much about how to handle people from them.
我也从他们那里学会了如何涂颜色 I learned how to color from them as well.
但我会说 but I would say,
但实际上这还不到一半的选票我是说 没有瑕疵的着色技术和创意方面的着色很快就来了 But that's actually not even a half of the vote judea that I mean the coloring in the technical and the creative side of coloring without blemish that came fairly quickly to me.
我从来没有做过太多的挣扎 I didn't ever really struggle with it too much,
但是但是学着用自己的方式控制自己的情绪 but but but learning to control your emotions in your own,
特别是在开始的时候 especially in the beginning,
如果有更大的进展告诉我 let me know when this is working on bigger stuff,
你会变得非常非常紧张或没有安全感 you'd get quite quite nervous or insecure.
你知道 and you know,
我记得我第一次像奔驰一样做商业活动 在我们抽筋前的那个晚上在大医院度过 I remember the first time I was doing like a big Mercedes commercialism and spending my first big hospital the night before us cramping myself,
我走到哪里 I go,
我的上帝 my God,
你知道的 you know,
我是什么 我要处理变化和如此紧张吗 what am I a pan am I gonna handle variation and so nervous?
我不再紧张了 I don't really get nervous anymore,
但从早期开始 but began in the early days,
在精神上没有渴望去帮助你打破你的成绩也许你知道在某种程度上 having not mentally eager to go to to help you break down your grade and maybe you know in a kind.
你知道的 You know,
你知道指导批评也许你可以用不同的方法来处理一些事情 you know mentoring critique of maybe some things you could approach differently,
或者是一些我认为可以从导师身上学到很多东西的东西 or maybe something that was I think there's a lot to be learned from from from getting some mentorship.
这很重要吗 也许不重要 我认为这对安德鲁很有帮助 Is it vital maybe not do I think it really helps Andrew percent,
所以你要确保广告 so you just make sure commercial.
从实际的技术角度来看 你给一个广告或一个特征上色的方式有什么不同吗 Is that a different in the way you approach coloring a commercial or a feature in terms of your actual technicality?
客户关系到目前为止 Client relationship is so far,
或者它们只是同一种野兽的两个不同方面 or they're just two different aspects of the same beast.
哦 Oh,
男人 man,
只是 it's just,
你知道的 you know,
他们太不一样了 they're just so different,
你知道的 you know.
在很长一段时间里 商业广播广告 Once again with commercial radio commercials a long time,
所以我最近拍的很多广告都是和人一起拍的 so a lot of the commercials I do these days with people.
我将发送一个关系与创意总监的创意总监在仓库 I will send a relationship with both creative director of the creative director at the depot.
我想说的是 我在商业广告中的表现可能比我在长篇广告中的表现要好 I would say probably have a harder time in commercials than I do in the long form.
我认为一个广告需要处理更多的意见 I think there's just a lot more opinions to manage on a commercial.
真的有 There really is,
我认为 and I think,
很多时候 a lot of the time.
也许我是被一些广告雇佣的 Maybe I'm hired on some commercials,
因为人们是我未来的工作 because people are kind of like my future work.
不 No,
我得到了它 I got it.
是的 Yeah,
我们要把这件事做得更高端因为他做了这件事 we're going to high end this thing because he did this thing,
然后我做了那件事 那件事太黑暗或太高贵了 and then I do that thing and that things too dark or its dignity.
有时候这可能是 and this is sometimes that can be a you know.
我是商业广告里那个喜怒无常的家伙 I've got this to the reputation of being the moody guy I think in commercials,
没那么早 not not as early right there,
正确的方式 the way aright,
我打分是因为我已经习惯了给特征打分 I grade because I'm used to grading features now,
然后我们就有了一个很长的叙述 and then we're in a long narrative,
你知道你会有黑暗的时刻 you know you can have moments of darkness.
他之前说过有时黑暗是很重要的故事另一次在广告中 And he talked about it before were sometimes darkness is important story another time and in commercials,
如果它想推什么东西 if it deep has tried to push something,
把它调暗 go dark on it.
我爱 I love that.
这样一来 犯罪就更难让当事人信服了 The crime was as much much more difficult to make the client by that.
所以作为一个调色师 so as a colorist.
你认为电影制作过程的其他部分重要吗 do you think other part of the filmmaking process are important,
例如 for example,
了解了灯光是如何在片场完成的 understanding how light is done on the set,
相机的工作原理 how camera work,
工作流程 how the work flow,
实际的物理工作的图像从胶囊的屏幕和您如何使用它 the actual physical work of the image from the capsule of the screen and how you use it.
你知道的 You know,
如果是你用的东西 if it's something you use,
你如何在日常工作中写作时使用它 how you use it on your day to day job while writing,
我认为这在海外非常重要 I think is really important overseas.
做日报 Doing dailies.
他的出现是理解光线的一种很好的方式 你必须与深处进行交流 and he'd come up is a really good way of sort of understanding lighting and you would have to be communicating with the deep,
更容易 easier.
告诉你很多关于他们如何点燃东西的信息 Tell you a lot of information about how they lit something,
理解文字 and so understanding writing,
我认为这很重要 I think is important.
我认为 I think it,
尤其是当你要平衡小姐的时候 especially if you're having to balance Miss.
匹配灯光的鲨鱼对感觉关键和说话有基本的理解 Matching lit sharks have a fundamental understanding of feeling key and talk,
所有这些东西都有助于使用Windows更好地匹配东西 and all those kind of things really helps in terms of being able to use windows to match things in a bit better.
是的 Yeah,
我的意思是 I mean,
我认为 I think.
在理解方面 In terms of understanding,
工作流程 work flow.
你知道的 You know,
这又回到了我的观点 which goes back to my point,
一点关于色彩科学的知识和理解有一个基本的理解 a little bit about color science and an understanding having a fundamental understanding of.
不同的文件格式 查找表 受限查找表和C语言都很重要 Different file formats and lookup tables and restricted lookup Table and C are all those things are important,
所以我觉得我可以边喝茶边吃对话 which is why I think I mean I can eat dialogue with the tea.
很多时候 在开始的时候 神灵也会参与到这些测试中 A lot of times in the beginning of the deities will be involved in those tests as well.
我会和神交流 说 And I'll communicate with the deity and say,
嘿 Hey,
这些是ceo们 these are the Ceos.
这是你应该下的订单 This is the order you should put the.
我要确保首席执行官们在法律面前 I make sure the Ceos before the law and if anything,
看起来很奇怪 looks weird,
打我 hit me up,
与我交流 communicate with me.
如果你经常做同样的补偿 and if you have any constantly do the same kind of compensation that we know,
我会把它植入肩膀之类的部位 and I'll build that into the shoulder and things like that.
所以 So,
是的 yeah,
我确实认为这很重要 I do think it's important.
你只工作或解决或你的工作在其他软件 Do you only work or resolve or yours to work on other software,
或者你以前在其他软件上工作过 or did you work in the past on other software,
唯一知道的就是弹跳 the only knows on pogo coming up.
我告诉我们晴天是昨天的事 I tell us sunny days that's yesterday.
对的 right,
那是20年前的事了 I mean that was a two decades ago.
我仍然是个公平的人 I'm still a fair,
一个问题 a problem,
当我加入公司的时候我经历了一段艰难的时期 the way that the way I had a really hard time when I joined company,
因为有达芬奇要携带 three in two thousand and seven because there is the Vinci to carry.
是的 Yep.
你知道弹簧单高跷的反应 and you know the way the pogo would react.
锁骨和亮度恒星的对比是如此不同 the collarbones and the contrast out where the luma stars were so different.
如此多的领袖 And so much leader,
达芬奇屠库是相当粗糙的 它不需要很多公民从上市开始迅速膨胀 the da Vinci TUCO was quite crude and it wouldn't take a lot of gain citizen from listings to start blowing out pretty quickly,
所以这确实花了我一分钟 so it definitely took me a minute,
但 是的 but yeah,
然后我认为2000年在2007年和2008年是当我们第一次像第一个解决ziggy在旧的公司搬迁时我开始Grady在那方面 And then I think the two thousand see at two thousand and seven two thousand and eight was when we were first getting like the first resolving ziggy had it set up in the old company relocation and I just started Grady on that,
因为我找到了一个比用达芬奇更简单的方法然后回到纽约 because I just found a way easier than using the da Vinci to go and then came back to New York,
重复使用剪出的石头 and be reusing clipstone like starting to come out of.
眼睛被达·芬奇密码遮住了 the eyes is eclipsed over the Da Vinci Code.
几年后 他们解决了问题 A few years after that they went to resolve.
然而 当我在邮局可能结束工厂最后的日子时 And yet when I was at the mail who may end the last days of the mill,
他们得到的是基线 they were getting the baseline.
我知道有很多 I know there's a huge amount of,
特别是在早期 人们是我们更好的基础 especially in the early days people were our basis so much better.
你知道的 You know,
你只会听到客户告诉我 其他机构会告诉他们 3号公司的机器齿轮是劣等的 不管怎样 you only hear clients tell me that other facilities would tell them that company three's machine gear was inferior and whatever I just,
我听 I listen.
如果有人不得不使用机器 那就是他们变得更好的原因 If someone's having to use the machine is a reason why they're better.
是的 Yeah,
好的颜色可以在任何东西上形成好的图像 good colors can make a good image on anything.
是的 Yeah,
但你心里说的不是那种有个武士 but your mind say is not the sort of there's a samurai.
它们完全改变了一切 they make the difference totally turtle.
你还有几分钟的时间来补充一些你想补充的内容 You have another couple of minutes is there is something that you want to add that they will.
也许我们还没接触过 Perhaps we haven't touched.
现在我的意思是 Now I mean,
如果你们有什么问题的话 if there's any questions I am here like,
我看到这些可爱的 I see all these cute,
有趣 funny,
小套的眼睛 little roping eyes,
任何有特殊癖好的人 anyone that has a specific thing,
或者你知道最后一件事 我不知道最后40分钟 or you know the last thing I don't know the last forty minutes.
我只是挑出这些问题 然后扔给你 I'm just picking those question and just throw it to you.
好吧 Okay,
你知道的 you know,
我的意思是 I mean,
我想你知道 I think you know.
你知道的 You know,
我在我的Instagram上很有反应 I'm pretty responsive on on my Instagram,
如果有人想要 so if anyone ever wanted to like,
别问我了 get me out of the question,
有时我想 and I think sometimes,
在这个误解中 as in this misconception,
3号公司太贵了 that company three's too expensive or whatever you know,
我需要一个大制作人 I need a big producer.
我完全被投射的创意所激励 I'm fully motivated off of the creative of projectile.
实际上 我很少知道我所参与的任何项目的收益是多少 从大型工作室到小型工作室 I very rarely actually know what the revenue is attached to any project I worked on and that's from a huge studio film to a small,
独立电影之类的 independent film or whatever I did.
我会纯粹以创意来衡量 I'd purely go by creative.
所以我想说的是 有两个人要么想要一个更大的陪伴 要么想要三个学习的人 因为委员会只是不要害怕接触 so I would say two people out there who either want a greater accompany three of a kind of learn move because committee just don't be afraid to reach out,
坚持下去 然后确定 Be tenacious and then sure,
也许有人不会总是回复你 maybe someone's not always going to reply to you,
但是你要顽强 可以尝试 but just be tenacious and can try.
我发现人们很愿意分享 and I found that people are pretty willing to share,
你知道的 you know,
分享他们的经验在他们的知识 share their experiences in their knowledge.
哦 Oh,
我再给你们最后一个问题在我们给rob机会之前 I'll give you one one last question before we give the floor to rob again,
你认为人工智能会让我们的工作过时吗 do you think the AI will make our job obsolete?
现在 Now?
我想我想我想我的工具可能会帮助加快我们工作的进程 I think I think I think I tools will maybe help speed up some of the process of how we do our job,
但是ultimate太主观了 but ultimate is too subjective.
我认为 I think.
你知道的 You know,
也许对于日报 maybe for dailies,
颜色可以形成 Color may be formed,
匹配的鲨鱼和扩张和交叉 matching sharks and dilate and crossed.
我不知道 I don't know,
我的意思 I mean.
如果是这样 If it does,
这就是它现在的样子 it is what it is now.
好吧 Okay,
我将是你的一个大的不是渔民在希腊作为一个男人和推销员 I'll be a big over your not fishermen in Greece as a man and the salesman,
非常感谢你们从纽约赶来 享受尘世的快乐 thank you very much for joining from New York and earthly pleasure.
的头条新闻 The headlines,
我很高兴你留着坏的那颗星 I'm glad that you're keeping the bad that star,
漂亮和整洁 nice and tidy.
小心SPDC的人 他们可能会得到令人眼花缭乱的快乐 Take care bye the SPDC man facing a dazzling pleasure they get probably.
嘿 Hey,
好友已不复存在 buddy has gone.
很好 看到罗比的亮色师和海领的合作伙伴赢得了最先进的色彩设计你们在华盛顿特区 Good that saw Robbie's lit colorist and partner of the sea collar are winning state of art colour on which their finishing company you're in Washington DC,
区域 area.
你会清楚地记得在过去的25年里 你是在哪里知道独立电影制作人国家宣传活动的 你知道的事情太多了 You'll remember exactly where over the last twenty five years you did you know of indie filmmaker National publicity campaign and yours too many things to actually mentioned.
让我看看 so let me see,
我不记得你到底想说什么了 I don't remember exactly what you want to talk about.
哦 Oh,
这是你心中最亲近的箭或其他东西 it's the arrow or something in the near and dear to your heart,
伙计 buddy,
我要 I'm going,
我们会讲一点HDR你们知道为什么在我看来 we're going to talk a little hdr and you know why it's in my opinion,
它是可访问的 是独立的 it is accessible and something that's indie,
电影和独立 films and indie.
梅克思博士应该考虑 Dr Makers should be thinking about OK,
所以请大家耐心等待大约五分钟 so I will ask you to be patient for about five minutes.
我们现在开始第一个休息 We take up the first break right now,
当然 of course,
然后是地板 and then you will have the floor.
给大家五分钟 我们休息一下 So give us everybody five minutes and we take a little break.
听起来不错 Sounds good.
由于文件夹 thanks folder.
好吧 All right,
这是离我们两个宫殿很远的地方的一些非常棒的东西 so that was some pretty awesome stuff so far from our two palace.
谢谢你们在我们的聊天中加入了东西 Thanks guys for getting stuff into the chat we're trying to pull.
豪猪则像一个冷静的人 试着让它们把饲料投入到工作中 A porcupine is as a calm and try and make them feed into the flow of work.
如果你的一些问题没有 If some of your questions don't,
你知道的 you know,
不要被否定 don't get answer to no,
你知道的 you know,
不要选 don't get picked.
中国为了让我们得到尽可能多的羊毛而苦恼 China distress it so much wool to try and get as many as we can.
我们有很多小组成员 We do have a lot of panelists coming,
所以这将是其中一笔交易 so it's going to be one of those deals were you know,
如果我们能回答所有问题 if we get every question answer,
它将在这里存在大约一百年 it will be here for a hundred years or so,
这仍然是很棒的 which is still awesome.
但是是的 But yes,
我的前两个朋友告诉我一些很棒的信息 some really great information from my first two guys.
是的 Yeah,
我们有一些新的小组成员加入 we have some new panelists joining us,
所以你们要确保 so make sure you guys,
你知道的 you know,
保持联系 Stay connection,
你知道的 you know,
与乍得的火车网络保持联系 Stay in connection with a Chad train network.
很明显 Obviously,
有这些家伙没有好处 there's no benefit to having these guys.
这里的 Here's.
如果你看到有人没摔倒 if you see somebody don't fall,
遵循Instagram follow on Instagram,
一定要跟着他去他的房间 Make sure to follow him in his room.
如果你愿意 And if you want,
你知道的 you know,
你可以自由分享和标记地面上的人让他知道你在这里 feel free to share and tag people on the ground and let him know you're here and yeah,
所以我希望大家都喜欢 so I hope everybody is enjoying the.
享受武器到目前为止 Enjoying the weapon are so far,
然而 我们可能已经进入黑色西装可以是一个很好的展示 and yet we have probably come into black suits can be a good show.
我的意思是 I mean,
汤姆·胡闹 有多好 how good was Tom Tomfoolery?
阿们 Amen.
太棒了 awesome,
是的 yeah,
你知道的 you know,
我看着他们 就像在听他说话 I was watching them just like listening to him,
像男人一样跟我们说话 talk in us like man's got it.
就像从他口中说出的每一个字都是纯金 It's like every word that comes out of his mouth as pure gold,
其妹妹SCA its sister SCA.
他是个很有学问的人 He's a very learned guy.
所以我脸红了 So here I made me blush.
他转动相机 He turned his camera.
你知道的 You know,
我不得不说 I have to say,
我想说的是这些年来汤姆所做的所有令人惊叹的工作我们都很钦佩 I have to say about all the amazing work that Tom has done over the years that we all admire,
我觉得很美 and I think its beautiful.
我还在关注汤姆圣诞节前后在亚马逊上做的广告 I am still caught up on Tom's the Amazon spot he did around Christmas,
亚马逊的芭蕾舞演员广告 the ballerina spot for Amazon.
我只是这是我见过的最美的事情之一时光 I just it's just one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen time.
这是一件漂亮的紧身上衣 That's just gorgeous doublet.
但他仍然需要 But he still needed.
阿曼尼塔驾驶就是其中之一 Amanita drive was one of those.
这是我们的心情就像我和我的电影制作人 It was such a mood for us like me and my my filmmaker.
像我们这样的狗狗根本不用去心理辅导 Buddies like we want to have no use to psych.
是的 Yeah,
我想我想让我印象深刻的是听沃尔特 汤姆和吉尔这样的预言家 I think I think the thing that always impresses me about listening to visionaries like Walter and Tom and Jill,
你知道的是什么东西 and on what kind of stuff is that you know,
我认为在Instagram上关注这些了不起的艺术家的人们有一种态度 I think there's that there's an attitude by people who follow these amazing artists on Instagram,
Facebook和他们生活在这个世界上的东西 Facebook and stuff that they live in this world,
有时候这并不难 where it's like it's not hard sometimes,
我想你们都知道汤姆在房间里和客户谈论他的挣扎 and I think that you know hearing Tom talk about in the room with clients and the struggles.
你也知道他们的意见和其他类似的东西 and you know the opinions and all that kind of stuff.
很高兴听到你知道 it's just great to hear you know,
我也认为 and I think also,
汤姆 Tom,
认识到 recognizing,
你知道的 you know,
你知道他的水平 you know where he's at his level,
镜头要好一些 the footage is a little nicer,
简单一点 a little easier.
这些都是愚蠢的 That's all stupid,
他在这里 he here,
你知道的 you know,
而不是过度曝光 rather than be twelve stops over exposed.
是的 我们很多人都做过孤儿院 yes orphanage that many of us gets done.
我真的很喜欢在其他东西中驾驶的有趣的东西 I really like the funny thing that drivers in something else.
希望我已经讲到水了 Hopefully I've touched on that with water,
我应该在其他的躯干中提到它 and I should have mentioned it in some other torso.
丹尼斯就是那种人 Dennis is just that.
也许有两个这么简单的移民 maybe there is two so simple emigrated,
是的 Yeah,
它不是 it wasn't.
我得有超级重的次级窗户 I'd have to have super heavy secondaries windows,
复杂的层混合和5000个节点在没有树 complicated layer mixes and five thousand nodes in the no trees,
或者两三个的时候 or whenever it was mostly like two three,
四五个节点 four or five nodes,
大部分是原色 and mostly primary color.
你知道污染 低端 高光 在初级水平上做事情 And you know contamination and the low end and highlights and doing things on a primary level.
这是一件事每当我在指导和帮助别人的时候 That's one thing whenever I'm kind of mentoring assistance,
你知道的 you know,
我的前三个助手都成为了非常棒的色彩师 有自己的风格 my last three assistants have gone on to become really great colorist with their own vibe,
但我总是对那辆自行车说 but I would always say to that bike.
试着在一个绝对简单的地方找到一些大湖 Just try to get some great lakes as simple as possible in an absolute.
绝对的 Absolutely.
我的意思是 I mean,
你们有最棒的科学团队 you know you guys with the greatest whole science team.
令人惊讶的是 当你在一个伟大的色彩科学和良好的管道下工作时 It's amazing how when you're working under a great color science and a good pipeline,
一点点就能走很长的路 just how little bit goes a long way.
你知道的 You know,
这里和那里只有几个打印机点 just a couple of printer points here and there.
你知道图像的平衡 you know balance in an image.
我认为很多人 I think that a lot of people,
我指的是包括我自己在内 I mean myself included.
我相信你也有过想做太多的时候 I'm sure you've had these moments to where you try to do a little too much,
有时一个简单的方法可以解决问题 and sometimes a simple approaches the way the way out,
你知道的 you know.
是的 Yeah,
我的意思是 I mean,
就像生活中很多事情一样 it's like a lot of things in life.
我想我看到你的吉他在他同样的音乐中给我们一个简单的 I think I see your guitars by in his same in music at the exact give us that keep a simple,
我其实是业余爱好者 I'm actually in my amateur,
我的音乐室 my music room here,
这比他以前做的更明智 it's more sense than he ever did.
我知道你需要在一个黑暗的房间里刺激城市深处的一种不同的感觉 I understood what like you have to stimulate a different sense of deep in the city in a dark room,
把你的眼球融化在图表上 melting your eyeballs on a diagram.
我的意思是我会在脑海里告诉我的相机 I mean I'll tell my camera in my mind.
我要在这里加一点 I'm going to have a little bit here.
他要说的是 What he does have to say,
但我不想占用任何人问他的时间 but I don't want to take up anyone asked his time.
所以谢谢你 So thank you,
汤姆 Tom,
再一次 again,
唯一曾经是一种真正的快乐 the only ever had been a real pleasure.
人在那里 Guys there,
也许你还有第三个小时 probably you have the third hour.
好了 Alright,
好吧 well,
首先非常感谢你 thank you so much at first of all,
沃尔特 Walter.
谢谢你主持这次会议 让我们大家聚在一起 谢谢你的攻击团队 thank you for hosting this and putting us all together and thank you to attack team,
你知道的 you know,
我知道这个游戏得到的很快 I know that this game to get a pretty quick.
现在我在地面上做了很多了不起的工作 And now this guys I've been doing some amazing work on the ground.
在印度 In India,
战斗不会引发战争之类的 fighting haven't cooked battle and all that kind of stuff.
所以我真的很感激他们 so I really appreciate them,
这对我来说是个绝佳的机会 and this is just an amazing opportunity for me,
与会者 the attendees,
每一个人 everybody.
但我想谈谈每个D but I want to talk a little bit about each D,
我们的东西 our stuff,
我知道 and I know,
沃尔特 Walter,
你对此很固执己见 you're very opinionated about this,
所以我一直没有得到 so I haven't been getting too.
我们来做个简单的旁白 We'll get into something just a quick aside.
我第一次接触帕托是很多年前 当时我还在杜比 My first exposure to multiple pato was many years ago when I was actually at Dolby.
做一些训练 沃尔特在一个非常大的 doing some training and Walter was on a very large,
非常大的电影 very large film,
他的前雇主突然打电话说 where all of a sudden his former employer called and said,
好吧 Well,
我不知道他是不是打了什么电话 I don't know if he called something,
出了问题 杜比的人都跑出去了 there's a problem and all the Dolby guys ran out of the room.
这就是我的第一次接触 So that was my first exposure.
我有自己的观点 现在就去死 I have opinions and die now.
我知道他不会像findoutyoudo那样使用Arial字体 I know he doesn't practical Arial like find out you do if it.
好吧 Well,
让我们从这里开始 let's get started here.
我想谈谈每一年 I want to talk a little bit about each year,
但在这里 我想从独立电影的角度来谈论hdr but in this case I want to talk about hdr in terms of the independent film,
小码头 和它的意义 the Smaller Dock and What it means,
我认为为什么更多人应该关注hdr 因为我认为它是相当成功的东西 and I think why a lot more people should be paying attention in hdr because I think it is something that is pretty successful.
我想以再次介绍我自己作为开始 And I wanted to start off by going to just introduce myself again.
我是罗比 I'm Robbie.
我是华盛顿特区一个叫DCColor的地方的老板和领导国会 I'm the owner and lead Congress a place called DC Color here in the Washington DC area.
每个对华盛顿感到好奇的人 Everybody who's wonders about Washington,
直流 DC.
但华盛顿特区实际上是全国最大的邮政市场之一 But Washington d C is actually one of the largest post markets in the country,
国家地理 探索频道 史密森尼和所有这些网络都在这里 with National Geographic and Discovery Channel and Smithsonian and all those networks based here.
所以我们做了很多长时间的工作 So we do a lot of long form work.
你们很多人都知道电视工作 A lot of you know television work,
但是大量的文件工作和大量的政治工作 But a whole lot of doc work for a lot of political work,
诸如此类的事情 all that kind of stuff.
我也是 com的联合创始人之一 I'm also one of the cofounders of mixing like dotcom,
这是一个叫羞耻的网站 which is a call of shame website.
我写了很多关于腺嘌呤和其他有趣的东西的书 And I've done a lot of books and technical adenine and all that kind of fun stuff.
如果你在旧的Instagram上 If you're on the old Instagram,
你可以叫我罗比·卡门去华盛顿开公司 you could call me a Robbie dot Carmen outward to form a company at DC.
黑暗的颜色 Dark color.
记住我姓的简单方法因为每个人都拼错了是一辆车和一个人 Easy way to remember my last name because everybody was misspells it come is one car and one man all right.
今天我想讲的是为什么她 So what I want to talk about today is a little bit about why is she,
我认为 I think,
这对很多独立电影来说都是有意义的 makes sense for a lot of indie films knocks.
我想谈谈我从很多GPS客户那里听到的三个常见问题 I want to talk about three common concerns that I hear from a lot of GPS clients.
你知道的 You know,
制作人问为什么他们喜欢hdr producers about why they're like out hdr.
这是我们有点害怕的事情 This is something that we're a little scared of,
然后我想做一点技术prime and then I want to do a little bit of a tech prime,
或者我知道这是 or I know this is,
我可以讲上三四个小时 I could probably go on for three or four hours about this stuff,
但是我想谈谈一些重要的技术方面的东西我认为对于我们这些调色师来说了解这些东西是非常重要的在我们学习这些东西的过程中 But I want to talk about some of the important aspects of the technical stuff that I think is really important for us to know as colorist as we're getting into this stuff and of course along the way,
你的问题 your question.
这就是游戏玩法 So that's kind of that's come to game play.
所以为什么我认为它们在电影制作中都有意义 So why do I think that each they are makes sense for in production in the films.
好吧 Well,
我想你知道对我来说 I think you know for me,
我在2015年左右开始投资Hdr I started investing in Hdr around two thousand and fifteen,
2016年 two thousand and sixteen.
这是Hdr早期的说法 This was sort of the quote unquote early days of Hdr,
我记得你在杜比·布斯的时候 I remember being an age when you are being in the Dolby Booth,
它有点像摊位后面的停电室 每次都展示北极星 and it was kind of this blackout room at the back of the booth and every showing the pole star,
那张有4000张网的海报 the poster of four thousand nets and how cool it was,
我当时就被它迷住了 and I was so smitten with it right then,
我开始在这方面大举投资 因为我看到了行业的发展势头 and I kind of have started to invest heavily in it because I just saw a lot of industry momentum.
你知道电视机制造商把它做成电视机 You know TV manufacturers making it your TV sets,
你知道内容 you know the content,
人 people,
Netflix Netflix,
亚马逊 Amazon,
等 etc.
推送HCR的内容 You know pushing HCR content,
软件公司就像resolve software companies like resolve,
和基线 and baseline,
等 etc.
缓冲 Cushion that,
但比我说的更重要 but more so than anything from me.
这是与hdr的一次发自内心的体验 It was a visceral experience with hdr.
我不知道 I don't know,
沃尔特 如果你有过 Walter if you ever had,
我想我知道你确实这么做了 I'm sure I know you did actually.
3d和三四年的经验对我来说一直都是骗人的 对吧 Some experience with three D and three and four year really always felt like a gimmick to me right?
你知道的 You know,
当你谈论被动或主动显示器时 当他们戴上眼镜时 when you're talking about passive or active displays when they put on glasses,
你知道的 You know,
感觉很奇怪 我第一次看到hdr的时候 我就想 你知道 it just felt weird and for the form I first saw hdr I was like you know,
这是一次发自内心的演示 and again it was set up to be a visceral demo.
我觉得多比当时好像有点火什么的 I think Dobby was showing some fire or something like that at the time,
我的天哪 and it was like holy crap.
这是图片 This is image,
我第一次真正关注的是更好的像素 fidelity and what I like to focus on the idea of better pixels for the first time that I had really seen,
尤其是当你谈论广播电视之类的东西时 especially when you talk about broadcast tv and stuff like that.
这让我措手不及 It just floored me,
你知道的 you know,
所以我开始投资 and so I started to invest in it,
我还觉得 and I also thought you know,
嘿 Hey,
这是可伸缩的 this is scalable,
老实说 技术越来越好了 and technology is getting better and to be honest with you guys.
深入hdr让我恢复了活力 It's really diving deep in hdr has revitalized me.
创造性 Creatively,
就好像乌鸦格栅又变得有趣了 it's like it's like crow grating is kind of fun again.
我想很多人都会遇到你 I think a lot of us run into you.
每天都要知道这件事 Know the thing every day.
看起来 it looks like you know,
好的 OK.
提升伽玛游戏或饱和度下一枪 Lift gamma game or saturation next shot,
对吧 right?
HDhdr至少目前是这样 HD hdr has at least for now,
确实促进了移民 比任何事都重要 has really invigorated migrating and more so than anything.
我也认为 I also think that,
我只是觉得我给客户的项目增加了很多价值 like I just feel like I'm adding so much value to clients' projects,
我马上就会讲到它的一些能力 and I will get to battle to get to that in a minute about some ability of it.
不 No,
微软 Microsoft,
但事实上 but it is really,
很有趣的东西 really fun stuff.
你不听 You don't listen.
Hdr现在在这里 Hdr is here now.
我相信每个人都是这样 I'm sure everybody on this collar.
几乎每个参加这个电话的人每年都以某种方式见过 Nearly everybody on this call has seen each year in some fashion.
所有的大型ot供应商 all of the Big O T T providers,
Netflix Netflix,
苹果电视 Apple TV,
迪士尼+沪录 Disney Plus Hu Lu.
永远 ever.
他们都在做一些味道的hdr They're all doing some flavor hdr,
通常是pq口味 usually a pq flavor,
HDR或重视 hdr or double vision,
这是一件很重要的事情 你甚至没有像Youtube这样的在线托管平台支持hdr which is a big thing you don't even online hosting platforms like Youtube are supporting hdr.
对我来说 and to me,
你知道一个技术极客对这种东西的感觉 you know from a tech geek nerve feeling about this stuff.
这真是令人兴奋 It's really exciting,
你知道的 you know,
因为我们说的是你 because we're talking about you.
高清+分辨率指的是更好的像素和更好的10比特压缩 H D plus resolutions were talking about better pixels with ten bit better compression,
每个事实都让我很兴奋 which each fact that stuff's exciting to me,
我想起了你的后援 and I just think back to your backup there.
我只是觉得你知道 I just think that you know,
当你看风景的时候 when you look at the landscape,
现在几乎所有售出的电视都支持hdr almost every single TV that's been sold right now supports hdr to some flavor.
我只是觉得这是我们应该开始考虑投资的事情 I just think that that's something that we should start to think about investing in.
所以你知道 and so you know.
作为一个小精品店的老板 As a small boutique owner,
我只是想想而已 I just think about it.
你知道的 You know,
我几乎 I almost.
他们可以 They can.
商业方面的这一比率 Business aspects of this rate.
我认为对我来说可以归结为三个部分竞争 I'm thinking it really comes down to three parts for me competitive,
有创造力 creative,
和业务优势 and business advantages.
你知道的 you know,
如果你在一个较小的市场 if you are in a smaller market,
你知道你不是那种人 you know you're not in that way.
你不在纽约和伦敦 you're not in New York and London,
我在一个中等规模的市场 I'm in a medium size market,
你会发现 提供hdr功能给了你惊人的竞争优势 你的竞争对手仍然在看你的HTML and you see having offering hdr capabilities gives you amazing aged a competitive advantage to the peers that you're competing with rate where people are still getting into your HTML.
好吧 OK,
你可以进入hdr you can lap them by getting into hdr.
我也认为 对于很多独立电影和码头来说 hdr真的给了他们销售项目的竞争优势 and I also think that hdr for a lot of independent films and docks really gives them a competitive advantage to selling the projects.
现在 Now,
沃尔特负责的一个项目 汤姆负责的 one of the projects the Walter works on Tom works on.
这些项目都是为Netflix和亚马逊定制的 These are projects that are bespoke projects for Netflix and Amazon,
之类的 or whatever.
我们大多数人 the majority of us,
正在做的项目 制片人希望能把他们的项目卖到这些大城市之一 are working on projects where the filmmakers are hoping to get their projects sold to one of these big cities.
所以通过在他们的口袋里有HDR交付 and so by being able to have an hdr deliverable in their pocket.
都准备好了 去这些地方 去 All ready and going to these places and going.
哦 Oh,
是的 yeah,
我完全可以想象利物浦 I would totally vision to Liverpool.
是的 Yeah,
在这里 here it is,
我认为这给了他们一点竞争优势 I think that makes it you give them a little bit of competitive advantage.
你知道的 You know,
在事物的创造性方面 in terms of creative side of things.
我认为每年对我来说最具挑战性最有趣的是视觉语言真的真的 I think what's most challenging most fun was interesting to me about each year is the visual language is really really,
非常独特 不断变化 不断更新 对吧 really unique and changing and always updating right?
你知道的 You know,
你可以看看我所谓的 十一转向 方法 you look at examples of the kind of I call it the turn it to eleven approach.
比如Netflix上的改变碳元素 you know things like an altered carbon on Netflix,
是我见过的最漂亮的hdr设备之一 right one of the most beautiful hdr things I've ever seen.
但很明显 这是在11点 而不是像你们知道的 在El的Apache的人没有厨师的桌子 but it's clearly crank to eleven versus something like you know the guys at Apache in El doing no chef's table.
对吧 right?
很微妙 It's very subtle,
很 it's very,
你们知道百分之九十九的图像你们知道SDR盘子 You know ninety nine percent of the images you know SDR dish,
我认为每个VR都有一个很酷的部分 I think there is that a cool part of each VR,
也就是说 that is,
我们还在努力弄清楚 we're still trying to figure it out right,
但更重要的是 我只是觉得当它做得好时 but more so than anything I just feel like when it's done well,
就是这样 and that's it.
这是一个F That's an F.
但当hdr能接近我们对世界的看法时 最后 But when its humble hell hdr can approximate a little bit how we see the world you know and then finally,
商业智慧 business wise,
你知道的 you know,
毫无疑问 现在 there's no doubt that right now,
HDR要求溢价 hdr demands a premium.
我认为 And I think that's,
你知道的 you know,
作为一个企业主 可以收取更高的小时费率或项目费率 From a business as a business owner being able to charge higher a higher hourly rates or project rates,
这是有道理的 that makes sense,
如果你在一个更大的机构 and that if you are in a larger facility,
请记住 keep in mind.
不仅仅是评分 It's not just grading,
我相信你知道 I am sure you know,
我不知道你是说沃尔特还是时间 I don't know if Walter or time you could say this,
但我很确定 but like I'm sure,
公司三在评分之外赚了很多钱 company three makes a lot of money just outside of the grading speak.
你知道掌握传递你看到的所有这类东西 You know the mastering the delivery that you see all of that kind of stuff.
像我这样的小精品店 I think for a small boutique like me.
它增加了 it adds up.
所有的技术 All technologies,
如果在这里 if is here,
你知道我是这么认为的 you know I think it was.
它是在世界上最大的设备上测试的 It was tested on the largest facilities in the world,
三的公司 the company three's.
这就是当时的颜色 That's how the colours of the time,
等 etc.
你知道的 You know,
我知道沃尔特很擅长测试这些东西 and I know Walter had a lot a lot a hand and testing that stuff.
但是现在你几乎可以使用所有的评分工具来支持任何形式的分享工作流程 But these days you can pretty much every grading tools going to support any share work flow of some sort.
消费者监控无处不在 Consumer monitoring is ubiquitous.
这是 It's out there,
它无处不在 it's everywhere,
对的 right,
专业的HDR监控虽然昂贵 professional hdr monitoring while expensive.
我们马上就会讲到 We'll get to that in a minute.
这是 It's out there,
还有摄像系统 and it's available and camera systems.
我的意思是我有一个黑色魔法口袋 I mean I have a black magic pocket,
我用40台相机来拍摄我的家人和孩子 forty camera that I used just to shoot my family and my kids and stuff.
令人惊异的是正确的 It's amazing right,
这是一个一千美元的相机 and it's a thousand dollar camera.
这是真的 It's really,
这是夸张 it's hyperbole,
但我们从来没有过现在这样的好时机 but we've never really been at a better time.
就很多这种技术的可用性而言 In terms of the availability of a lot of this technology.
而且 And also,
我认为需要注意的是工作流是可访问的 I think it's important to note that the workflows are accessible.
我以前称之为杜比幻象 I used to call a Dolby vision.
例如 For example,
我以前称这个乡村俱乐部为Hdr因为它是在最大的项目上进行测试用最好的颜色来代表世界上最好的豌豆 I used to call the country club Hdr and I call it a country club hdr because it was being tested on the biggest projects with the best colors for the best de peas in the world.
现在所有人都能得到这些东西 Now that stuff is available to everybody right aces and our cm,
或者你用的任何工具 or whatever tool you are using.
所有这些色彩管理 All those color management.
都是杜比数字分析的产物 things are built in Dolby digital analysis.
如果你购买了ResolveStudio If you buy Resolve Studio,
对你有什么影响 what does results to you?
比如300美元 Like three hundred bucks?
现在它是内置的你可以创建AdobeVision These days rate it's built in you can create Adobe Vision,
我的资产与网飞兼容300美元 I am assets Netflix compatible with a three hundred dollars,
一个疯狂的软件 当你把它组合起来 a piece of software which is insane and when you combine,
你知道的 比如来自杜比的磨难 托比切割引擎 甚至Adobe的最终用户认证 you know things like the tribulations from Dolby that Toby cutting engine and even enduser certifications from Adobe,
他们只是改变了 which they just changed.
这是很酷的东西 It's pretty cool stuff,
男人 man.
真的是这样 It really is so.
我每年都听到很多关于这方面的担忧 而且基本上是百分之百的 I hear a lot of concerns about each year and primarily one hundred per cent.
你从每个人那里听到的第一个人每年都很健康 The first one that you hear from everybody is well eight each year.
监控是昂贵的 买一辆车是愚蠢的 Monitoring is expensive is buying a car that's stupid,
我认为数量 I think number.
几年前我买了第一台hdr显示器 When I bought the first hdr monitor that it we've got a couple of years ago,
这对我来说很难开口 it was hard for me to say it.
现在是45美元 Now is forty five grant for I mean,
我可以花四万五千美元买一辆很好的车 开着它在我身边从a地到B地 I could buy a really nice car for forty five thousand dollars and drive it around and against me from point A to point B,
和我说 and I'm saying,
兔兔现在 Rabbit rabbit nowadays,
由于流感大流行 because of pandemic,
我们得分开清洗客户的房间 we have to clean the client's Separately.
有一刻我还多了一百 There was a moment I had one extra hundred for me,
一份给客户 另外两份给火车经过的时候加上面板 one for the client and then two other extra hundred for the train past plus the panel.
那是一个公寓工作的钱进表 That's an apartment work of money into table.
这是疯狂的人 It's insane man,
这是疯了 it's insane,
我的意思是 and I mean,
我认为当你想到hdr时你必须理解它是关于显示的 I think when you think about hdr you have to understand its all about the display right.
这是一种展示 It's a display referred kind of thing you know,
现在 and right now,
当我们看风景电视的时候 when we look at that landscape television,
首页 home,
大规模的梦想 mass dream,
也就是0到100人死亡 That's zero to one hundred deaths,
我们大多数人生活的世界 the world that most of us lives.
和正确的 and right.
当你谈到Netflix的Hdr时 When you talked about Hdr for Netflix,
亚马逊 Amazon,
等 etc.
你知道这可以达到4000网的掌握 You know that can be up to four thousand nets of mastering right,
当你思考这个问题的时候 and when you think about this,
这是一件疯狂的事 here's the thing that's crazy.
一旦你确定了 Once are you sure you're,
你是一个大师吗 You're a guru?
当涉及到这方面的时候你是怎么想的 When it comes to this aspect of it right when you think about it?
这是照片上的样子吗 Photographically like this is we're talking?
你知道的 You know.
特别提款权五 From SDR five,
6 six,
七个停止 seven stops.
你知道图像的图像 you know of image of image.
在页面中 13个站点更多的是图像数据 Data sorting Thirteen stops are more of image data when it comes to page.
如果你是对的 If you are right,
这种对比很重要 that contrasts really matters,
尤其是当你考虑到它与更宽的服装结合时 especially when you consider that it's being married with wider garments,
比如在2000到20之间的Petride65 like Petri de six five between two thousand and twenty stuff like that.
但我知道我现在明白了 But I know I get it now.
就像hdr参考取代了超级昂贵的消费显示器 Like hdr reference displaced super expensive consumer displays,
他们有问题 they have problems.
我想马上介绍一种混合的方法 I want to introduce a kind of a hybrid approach to this in just a second Here,
我说 I said,
这一切都是关于展示 而且是关于他们中的很多人 it's all about the display and it's about a lot of them.
这是一个客户几年前使用的SAP This is a SAP that a client took a few years ago.
大概是在2017年 This is probably two thousand and seventeen,
2018年我们的一个房间 two thousand and eighteen of one of our rooms.
你们可以看到房间里有很多摩擦监测器 I mean you can see there's a lot of friction monitors in the room,
对吧 right?
我们有 We got,
你知道额外的一百和特别提款权aulad you know extra hundred and SDR aulad,
我们有干净的oled and we have clean oleds there.
如果你要做很多你的工作 If you're going to do a lot of each your work,
准备好进行大量的监控或将你的显示器切换到许多不同的东西 get ready to have a lot of monitoring or being able to switch your monitors to a lot of different things.
了不起的玛娜 确实有 It really does get Mana Terrific.
我猜的 I guess it's,
哦 uh,
是的 yeah,
每次你有一个以上的监视器校准在恐怖主义方面是基本的 and every time you have more than one monitor calibration is fundamental in the terrorism aspects that go on.
我的意思是 I mean,
这是一个噩梦 it's a nightmare,
但如果只是因为你提到过 我就浪费了世界宗教 数学上说他是人眼的一个特殊特征 特定的频率会产生略微不同的颜色 but if it's the world religion I had wasted just because you mentioned it mathematically is he is a particular characteristic of the human eye where certain frequency can yield a slightly different color.
所以如果屏幕的带宽太窄 So if screen as too narrow of a bandwidth,
比如绿色通道 for example on the green channel,
它们通常是最好吃的 they usually the worst yummy,
另一个观察者会得到稍微不同的感知颜色 and another observer can get a slightly different perceptual color.
例如 For example,
我的我倾向于更环保当我们在服药期间 my I tend to be greener when we hit amid the medication.
完全 Totally,
就像你看到的一样 and it's one of those things were like you're looking at,
你知道的 You know,
比如Wrgb 感觉比LCD更温暖 say a W rgb all that it feels warmer than say you know an LCD display.
这可能是一个挑战 It can be a challenge.
但当我们看到今天市场上的hdr显示器时 But when we look at those hdr displays on the market today,
我的意思是 I mean,
我真的想到了一些事情 there's really a few things that come to mind.
我们称之为全阵列局部调光的休耕显示在他自己的显示上 比如FCC口音 What we call the fallow displays of the full array local dimming displays these within his own displays on things like the FCC accents.
保留K Retain K,
你知道他们用了很多区域 You know they use a lot of zones to get really,
非常明亮 really bright.
这些是目前市场上最亮的显示器 These are the brightest monitors on the market right now,
但是他们在人口和繁荣方面存在一些问题 but they have some issues you know in terms of population and sort of glowing blooming,
它们确实需要复杂的反向算法 and they really require sophisticated back right algorithms.
你知道的 You know,
如果你有 if you have it,
你可以有一个非常明亮的显示器 you can have a really bright display.
但是如果它的算法是背光算法就不是很好 But if its algorithm is backlit algorithm is not very good.
你将很难与显示器和许多人一起工作 you're going to have a really hard time working with that display and a lot of people.
这是他们反对的一件事当涉及到全阵列显示器时是一种不同的心情 This is one of the things they object to when it comes to full array displays is kind of the different moods.
我总是说和平阅读展示 I always say that peaceful read displays,
它们是着色活性监测器 they are a colorist active monitors,
也就是说你不能设定好就忘了 meaning that you can't just set it and forget it.
你必须是 You have to be.
你必须驱动监视器 You have to drive the monitor,
这就像 it's like,
正如我妻子所说 as my wife says,
所有的时间 all the time,
她说 she says.
如果你不开车 If you're not driving,
棒 stick,
就好像你只是在操纵 it's like you're just steering,
你知道的 you know,
这就是我对这些显示器的感觉本地显示器就是你必须知道它们发生了什么 and that's kind of the way I feel about these monitors local display monitors is that you really do have to know what's going on with them,
就像调节细胞层到空间 like modulating cell layer to space,
或LM密封显示 or LM seal displays.
这些都是去年流行的 These are all the rage in the past year,
或者想想索尼的支票 or to think about the Sony checks,
三百一十年 three ten,
索尼 the Sony.
我有点像你 I'm sort of thee,
大使馆我接受311 the embassy I accept three eleven,
这些实际上合并了一些面板 these actually merge couple panels together,
所以你得到了大约一千个渔网 so you get about a thousand nets,
但你会得到真正的黑色水平 相当于额外的100和所有的显示 but you get really black levels that are equivalent to say an extra hundred and all that display,
他们真的设定好了 然后忘记了 and they really are set it and forget it.
但是他们在视角方面有一些问题 But they have some problems in terms of viewing angle.
他们有一些问题 They have some problems,
就像他们有共同兴趣爱好的粉丝一样 like they have fans on the mutual interests that backlights on all the time,
所以他们在房间里可能会有点吵 So they can be a little loud in the room.
诸如此类的事情 that kind of thing.
我们有传统的rgb通道 比如X we have traditional rgb legs like X,
三百年 three hundred,
这些都是伟大的 those are great,
然后我们有wrgbled and then we have w rgb Leds,
我们马上会讲到更多 which we'll get to and more in a second,
但是你可以看到一些不同的显示器的峰值亮度 but you can see some peak luminance of some of these various displays.
我很高兴我有一个X从10k到3000生命是他伟大的名字 It's great to live that I have an X tends to be ten K right over here to three thousand and life is his great name.
有一个超亮的显示屏很好 It is nice to have a super bright display,
但在那里有一些差异 but there is some variance about what's out there.
如果我能做广告 因为你们一出来就有广告 If I can advertise because you have that just as soon as you come out,
我想明天 I think tomorrow,
这是我为苹果公司完成的文件 the day after Saddam in it's a document that I finish for Apple.
另外 Plus,
他们实际上选择了2000 they actually pick at two thousand,
只是在监视器上看而已 just watching on the monitors gorgeous.
这不是我确信的相信 It's not some believe I'm sure sure,
所以当你 so when you,
当你看风景的时候 when you look at the landscape right,
我的天啊 the first thing that comes up is holy crap.
专业的波浪按摩太贵了 Professionalise waves are way too expensive.
我需要买一个消费者展示 I need to buy a consumer display,
但是你必须考虑一些事情 but you have to consider a few things here right.
首先 So first of all,
消费者展示将是H Consumer display is going to be H.
你只可以 Do you might only,
这对你来说可能不是什么大事 and that may not be a big deal for you,
但在一个更大的设施中 这可能是一件大事 因为你有ESG背景骨干工程师会对你大喊大叫 让你把东西转换进和输出 but it's a can be a big deal in a larger facility where you have an ESG background backbone and engineers are going to yell at you about converting things in and out.
这只是另一个需要处理的盒子 It's just another box to deal with.
对吧 Right?
我认为消费显示器上会有很多奥托的产品 I'm consumer displays are going to have a lot of Otto stuff on them,
对吧 right?
你知道的 You know,
在过去的几年里 电影制作人 it's gotten better in the past couple years with filmmaker,
心情之类的东西 mood and stuff like that,
我们会讲到的那个大问题 the big one that we'll talk about.
有一点是色调映射 A little bit is tone mapping.
但它可以是一个很大的 But it can be a big,
巨大的关注 gigantic concern.
它是关于咄咄逼人 It's about aggressive,
你知道的 You know,
比如消费者制造商不希望你弄坏电视机 所以他们不会让你接触到面板的全部潜力 limiting like consumer manufacturers don't want you to break your TV so they don't really give you access to the full potential of that panel,
所以你可能得到一千个网 and so you might get a thousand nets.
但在电视上 but on this much of the TV,
这就引发了你的问题 which is which initiates your issue,
我会写 I would write,
我总是打破这条规则我做了一些非常亮的东西打开了你的专业展示 I break that rule all the time I make something really fucking bright opens your professional displays.
当然可以 Of course.
SCI SCI,
你知道他们支持多种标准 you know they support multiple standards.
他们有很多专业功能 They have had a lot of pro features,
所以它的存在 so it's there,
但有件事 沃尔特斯 but here's the thing Walters,
我得到了 I get,
我在Facebook上的各种群组中 I am on Facebook in me on these various groups,
就像你和别人一样 like you and people are just like that.
好吧 Well,
不 no,
它是愚蠢的 it's stupid.
我永远不会花那么多钱 I'm never going to spend that much money.
我只打算买一个消费者展示 我对它的态度是更贫穷 I'm just going to buy a consumer display and my attitude about it is more poverty.
用一个消费者面板开始你的hdr之旅绝对没有错 There is absolutely nothing wrong with getting started in your hdr journey with a consumer panel.
只要你意识到潜在的限制是存在的 As long as you are aware of the potential limitations and there are limitations,
他们没有被打败 they are not defeated.
所有的事情 All things,
他们不会说 they are not like,
这种颜色的东西可以忽略 something that color is just ignore,
对 体积的东西是最大的 每个人都扔这个 right volumetric things being the biggest one volumetric everybody throws this round.
是我们的朋友 Are our buddy,
SteveShaw一直在说这个你知道体积限制 Steve Shaw says this all the time you know volumetric limitations.
这是什么意思 What does that mean?
好吧 Well,
意思是你越聪明 it means the brighter you get,
你得到的音域就越小 the less gamut you're getting as you guys.
白色像素开始说 就像海藻一样 That White Pixel kicks in and say like an algae,
旧信之类的 old letter or something like that.
不能够纠正或关闭的能力 如语气 The ability to not be able to correct or turn off like tone.
在显示器上映射是一个问题 Mapping in the display is is kind of a problem.
对于那些不知道的人 For those who don't know,
我们马上就会讲到 we'll get to in a second,
但是色调映射是一种显示器从一个中心映射到另一个中心的能力作为一个调色师 but tone mapping is kind of the ability of a display to kind of map itself from one center to another as a colorist,
我不想纠正一个色调地图显示 and I don't want to correct on a tone map display.
我不想让显示器显示出什么东西 I don't want the display rolling off somethings.
我想看看剪报 如果我不能写任何潜在的困难在亚洲校准之类的事情 I want to see clipping if I can't write any potential difficulty in Asia calibration that kind of thing.
但问题是 But here's the thing.
我想这是我想站在讲台上说的一件事 and I think this is the one thing I really want to get up on my soapbox for a second and say,
我认为有一种态度让你知道顶级和颜色公司是世界上的三巨头之类的他们只是喜欢花钱 对吧 I think there's an attitude that wake you know top and color as the company three's of the world or whatever like they just like spending money right?
哈 Ha,
我认为那不是真的 I don't think that's true.
我认为如果你和会计和公司3的人谈谈 I think if you talk to the accountants and the people that company three,
他们会去 they'll go.
嘿 Hey,
男人 man.
如果我们能花五千美元买到超过四十美元的显示屏 If we could get away with a five thousand dollar display over forty,
五个 five,
我们每天都要花几千美元 thousands of dollars way we do it every single day.
这是一个专业的展示 Here's a thing professional displays.
它们只是允许更大的可重复性和HDR内容的适当翻译 they just simply allow for greater repeatability and proper translation of hdr content.
前几天我遇到过这样的情况 我的一个客户在L地理上用hdr评分时遇到了我们提到的各种限制 I had a situation the other day where I had a client who graded something in hdr on an L geo led with all the various limitations that we mentioned.
我把它带到我的房间 brought it to my room,
或者我们可以加上X1到10k 然后说 or we can add an X one through ten K and said,
为什么这些挑染都是洋红色的 Why are all those highlights magenta right?
我说 因为他们不像 And I was like because they are not like.
好吧 Well,
我们没看到 我说不行 we didn't see that I'm like no.
当然你没有看到 因为你有体积 Of course you didn't see that because you had volumetric well,
等等等等 blah blah blah.
你知道我说的是对的 You know you get what I'm saying right.
最后 So at the end of that,
一天结束时 at the end of the day,
在hdr上投资很多的设施 facilities that are investing a lot in hdr.
不喜欢 Don't.
我没有理智的现实主义 I don't have a sensible realism.
他们不是想让你难过 They're not trying to make you feel bad,
他们花了很多钱 that they're spending a lot of money,
你知道 他们会认为他们这样做是因为他们的成绩是最可重复的并且可以尽可能多地显示出来 and you know that can think they're doing it because it allows their grades to be the most repeatable and to translate to the most displays as possible.
这才是关键 That's really the thing.
根据先生 According to Sir,
第二个是你的测验 Number two is your quiz,
你的录像很好 your footage Good enough,
你知道的 you know,
在很多独立电影中 in a lot of indie films,
码头 docks,
你可能有十多年的摄像机 you might have cameras that range from a decade.
你可能有十五年前的录像你知道档案和库存 You might have footage that was fifteen years old that you know archival and stock.
现在这里是 Now here's.
问题是 最高质量的录像能拍得更好吗 the thing is that highest quality footage that you can get the better?
当然 Of course,
它总是原始优先级Unix中的规则 it's always going to be the rule in a raw prioritized Unix.
不管怎样 这并不意味着你不能用糟糕的录像 Whatever that doesn't mean that you can't use crappy footage,
这只是意味着你必须小心处理糟糕的视频 it just means that you have to handle crappy footage with care.
你知道的 You know,
很多这样的镜头可以插入到每年的节目中 a lot of that footage can be inserted into an each year programme,
通常情况下就是这样 and oftentimes it is what it is.
这是一个讲故事的过程 It's a storytelling thing.
我一直在想的事 I think the thing that I always think about.
这可真有趣 that's really funny.
几年前我有个朋友 I had somebody a couple of years ago.
来找我 告诉我有人 Come up to me and say there is that anybody.
我说 And I said,
为什么没有人在Hdr相机上做广告 Why is nobody advertising in Hdr camera,
我说我的行为给了我们困惑 因为我不是指一个hdr摄像机 I say that I act gives confusor for us as I wouldn't mean an hdr camera.
问题是我们已经开始拍摄了 The things about it is that we're already shooting each.
你是对的 You are right,
你知道的 you know,
我们有这些相机 可以拍摄121314个镜头的动态范围拍摄10分钟 We have these cameras that can shoot twelve thirteen fourteen stops of dynamic range of shooting ten minute,
加上拍摄原始日志编码 plus the shooting raw log encoding.
无论什么 whatever.
我们这么多年来一直在做的事情是我们一直在做这些巨大的 The thing that we've been doing for so many years is that we've been taking these huge,
动态范围摄像机能够记录并把它塞进一个小的盘子里 dynamic range cameras that are capable of recording and stuffing it down a small plate that is str,
你知道的 you know.
这就是为什么没有人把hdr当作照相机来做广告 That's why nobody's advertising hdr as a camera,
因为我们已经朝那个方向射击了 because we're already shooting that way,
当你开始考虑这个问题时 这是一件令人挠头的事情 which is something that is a head scratcher when you start considering it.
很多冲浪者在射击 Lots of surfer for shooting,
你知道的 you know,
我想如果你知道你每年要在全球范围内拍摄一些东西 I think if you know you're going in to shooting something within each year global,
你可以做很多事情 there's a lot you can do to kind of.
自己受益 benefit yourself,
你知道的 you know,
寻找那些高光部分 寻找颜色和体积的机会 look for those specular highlights look for color volume opportunities.
像衣柜里的布景设计这样的事情不要害怕 Things like set design in wardrobe have don't be afraid.
我想了很多我不知道的 I think a lot of I don't know,
沃尔特 Walter,
你可能很少使用GPS和你使用的产品 You probably have this less working with the GPS and the productions that you work with.
但和我一起工作的很多制作人 But a lot of the production's I work with.
他们害怕动态范围 They're scared of dynamic range.
他们想保持非常保守的利率 因为他们害怕剪短 They want to keep everything very conservative rate because they are scared of clipping.
他们害怕影子 They're scared of shadow,
破碎的阴影 crushing shadows.
这就是为什么我说这是有趣的东西你会尽可能多地捕捉信息 That's why I mean that's the fun stuff you'll capture that information as much as you possibly can.
在每年的工作流程中 and in each year work flow.
我认为有一定程度的预习是很重要的 I think it's vital that you have some level of previewing,
发病和诚实 onset and honestly.
啊 Ah,
一个了解HDR工作流程的神是值得的 a good deity who knows hdr workflows is worth their weight in gold.
对于这些类型的工作流 For for these kind of workflow.
根据我们的圣经 So stock in our Bible,
他听着 he listened.
男人 men,
尤其是在黑暗中 especially in a dark.
到处都是 It's going to be all over the place,
但你会惊讶于现在能找到多少高质量的视频 but you'd be surprised how much good quality footage can be found these days,
甚至在仓库的原材料容器上 even on raw containers on stock sites.
但有时你知道 But sometimes you know,
我们的工作就是这样 our kind of stuff just is what it is you know,
这是兴登堡号的照片 here you see a picture of the Hindenburg.
我们会认为不正确 We'll think not right.
作为一名调色师 你可以用这样的东西做很多事情 You can do a lot as a colorist with stuff like that,
你可能无法拉伸它 you might not be able to stretch it.
两座山峰 Two peaks,
一千比特和大肆宣扬 a thousand bits and hype yell,
但你知道的 我可以用一些额外的流行莱克斯颜色可以走很长的路与一个高度的想法 but you know a little extra pop lex color I can go can go a long way with one of the highly thought.
我觉得我觉得你是麦克风开着 I think maybe I think you're a microphone is on.
当涉及到图形和文本时 When it comes to graphics and text,
显然 人们喜欢的文档大多是图像和文本 obviously loved docs are graphics and text heavy.
要记住的一件事是 图形和文本没有单一的规则 One of the things to keep in mind is that there's no single rule for graphics and text.
很多都是依赖于射击的 It's a lot of it's going to be shot dependent,
你知道的 you know,
如果文本背景是黑色的 if you have text in a way back a black background,
这和一个镜头上的文字有很大的不同 that's a lot different than texts on a shot that has a really high up,
你知道的 you know,
作为一千分钟的俳句其他标准机构 他们确实提出了大约233个网为一个扩散的白色或文本 and as a thousand minutes the haiku other standards body they do suggest about two hundred and three nets for a diffuse white or text.
但这只是个建议 But it's just a suggestion,
这不是你必须要做的事情 我在过去几年里发现了一件事 not something that you have to go with and one thing I've found in the past few years.
那就是和很多运动图像设计师打交道 Is that dealing with a lot of motion graphics artists,
人们的交易价格下跌 people were trading lower.
第三种情况 Third stuff like that.
你开始与他们和ace交流管道 You start talking pipelines to them and aces,
不管他们在哪里掩饰 and wherever they just gloss over,
请记住 just keep in mind.
你可以一直带着 You can always take you know,
标准的七或九 standard seven or nine,
你知道的 you know,
征税 然后把它整合到一个工业项目中 taxed and stuff and integrate it into an industrial project.
好吧 Okay,
啊 ah,
因为3号 cause number three,
然后我们每年都会讨论一些我的客户并不关心的技术问题 and then we'll move on to some of the tech stuff my clients just don't care about each year.
我经常听到这样的话 I hear this all the time.
事情是这样的 你知道有很多客户对每一份工作都没有立即的出路 Here's the thing is that you know there's a lot of clients who don't have an immediate outlet for each job.
他们确实在走电影节的路线 It's true they're doing the film festival route,
或者他们在做什么 or they're doing,
你知道的 you know,
Youtube之类的网站 online Youtube kind of stuff.
但就像我之前说的 But as I've said before,
你知道的 you know,
我真的相信 这样做可以帮助客户让他们的项目在未来更畅销 I really believe that doing this your little can be can help a client make their projects more sellable down the road,
但最重要的是 but more so than anything.
这里有一个很重要的点 大多数客户实际上不知道HtArias是什么样子的 And here's a really big point Most clients don't actually know what Ht Arias basically they're like.
哦 Oh,
是的 yeah,
每年我都听到这个流行语 Each year I've heard that buzzword,
我去过B 听到有人说hdr I went to any B once and I heard somebody talk about hdr,
也许他们不知道那是什么 and probably they don't know what it is.
所以我认为作为色彩师 我们有责任教育客户尽可能多的技术知识 So I think it's our responsibility as colorists to educate clients as much as you can on the technical,
有创意的 the creative you know,
当然 of course,
你给他们很好的hdr参考资料 and you give them good references to hdr.
我想很多人都对此不感兴趣 I think a lot of people are turned off.
当搜索hdr时 他们在Youtube上看到一些糟糕的评论 When the search for hdr they find some crappy review on Youtube about,
嘿 Hey,
看看Hdr和它的超级爆炸超级彩色霓虹灯外观 look this at Hdr and its super blown out super colorful neon looking.
这是废话吧 It's crap right,
有擅长hdr的人 There is good at hdr out there,
我认为我们应该为客户提供好的推荐信 And I think we owe it to our clients to give them good references,
但客户只是在我的经验中 but also a client is only really in my experience.
只有在他们的地盘上才会回应 only going to respond to each yard when it's their stuff.
客户很难把它记在心里因为它是你知道的 It's really hard for clients to put it in mind when it's you know whatever you know.
沃尔特把一些电影的特点复杂化了 some film that Walter complicated trait.
这就是为什么我认为像坐标系I这样的工具 That's why I think that you know tools like frame I,
在示例中 over example,
现在支持HDR工作流 that now supports hdr workflows,
杜比编码引擎 the Dolby Encoding Engine,
这是一个很棒的工具 它可以让你像Netflix一样 which is an amazing tool which allows you just like Netflix,
看起来亚马逊确实创造了对上帝的诚实 does looks like Amazon does actually create real honest to God.
杜比 Dolby,
你可以把视觉成果放在一个u盘里 让客户在一天结束的时候带回家看电视 Vision deliverables that you can then put on a thumb drive for a client to take home at the end of the day to watch on their TV.
移动设备 比如之前提到的ipad和iphone Mobile devices like those previously mentioned Ipads and Iphones.
这些都是对每颗星做一定程度的研究 Those are all doing some level of each star.
这就是你需要关注客户的地方 让他们看到这些地方的潜力 That's where you need to focus with clients to get them to see the potential in those places.
你知道在大流行之前 and you know before the pandemic.
我用我的宝贝女儿做了很多演示 I was doing a lot of demo sessions in my sweet girl.
如图所示 It's pictured,
我尽可能地尝试为不同类型的游戏制作简短的演示轮 and I've tried as much as possible to have kind of short demo wheels for different kinds of genres,
特色叙事 短片 广告和音乐视频 feature narratives and shorts and commercials and music videos.
我试过了 我也会试着回到过去 And I tried it and I'm going to try to get back to it.
现在我们有了一些正常的客户 now that we're getting a little bit back to normal to have clients come in,
你知道的 you know,
也许我们可以每隔几周做一次欢乐时光之类的让他们来看看 maybe we'll do a little happy hour once every couple of weeks or whatever and have them come in and look at it.
我认为这是销售hdr的好方法因为你知道我这么做的原因 I think that's a great way to be able to sell hdr because you know the reason I'm doing.
现在做一个ppt演示 因为我真的不能把hdr放大给你们看 A Powerpoint presentation right now is because I really can't show you hdr over zoom in a tangible,
发自内心的方式 visceral way.
正确的 right.
我只是说说而已 I'm just talking about it.
从概念的角度来看 and from a conceptual point of view,
所以这只是我想为你的客户做的事 so it's just something that I would consider to do you know to do for your clients.
然后 And then,
最后 lastly,
在这里 here.
用潜在的hdr来击败客户 Beat clients over the head with the potential for hdr.
我很努力地跟客户做了一个简短的两分钟的电梯游说 I have worked really hard on a quick two minute elevator pitch you know with clients and say,
好吧 Well,
6欧元是什么意思 what's six euro about?
我希望能在一分钟或更少的憎恨中说出来 I want to be able to say it in a minute or less hate.
这就是人力资源 This is the thing this is what HR is.
我已经开始把hdr集成为一个可选的东西 I have started integrating hdr as an optional thing.
你可以看到一个快照 从最近的建议到几乎每一个我现在做的建议 You can see a snapshot from a recent proposal into almost every proposal I do now right now.
很可能是十分之二 It's probably two out of ten,
每年有十分之三的人选择了我 three out of ten that picked me up on doing that each year,
我们的工作 our work.
但当他们看到的时候 他们就走了 But when they see it there they go.
嘿 Hey,
这是什么 经常进行这样的讨论就能把它完成 what's that and having that discussion often leads to getting it done.
你知道的 You know,
让工作像一件事一样发生 in having that work happen as as a thing.
所以好的软件 so good software.
好吧 All right,
我知道我还有十到十五分钟 I know I got about ten or fifteen minutes left,
我有很多事要做 I got a lot to do.
你的文学速度还真快 You've had some literary quick.
切换你的工作流程 Switch your workflows stuff.
听 Listen.
汤姆谈到了工作流程 颜色科学和大型设备 Tom talked about it with you know what work flow and color science and a large facility,
第三家公司有幸拥有令人惊叹的色彩科学家对于我们很多人来说你们可能没有色彩科学你们在每一个色彩校正应用中都能做到制造商在过 去的几年里一直在推进色彩管理 the company three they are blessed with amazing color scientists for a lot of us who may not have that you have color science at your hands you really do in every single color correction application manufacturer has really forwarded color management over the past couple of years,
你知道这是不是a you know whether that's aces,
rcm 是否 whether that's rcm,
你是否知道scratch和baseline正在使用的系统 whether that's you know the systems that scratch and baseline are using.
可以在每年的项目中单独做一些事情 it's possible to do in each year project just with what's alone,
但是当你处在一个被管理的管道中时 有一些限制 but there are some limitations there when you're in a managed pipeline,
无论你选择什么系统 whatever system you choose,
你有更多的灵活性 you have a lot more flexibility.
你在思考从素材到工作空间到输出的真正数学转换 you're thinking about true mathematical transforms from footage to working space to output.
你考虑的是从SDR到hdr的便捷 You're thinking about an ease of going from SDR to hdr.
我的意思是这是我们将要讨论的问题之一 I mean that's one of the things we'll talk about.
在第二个 In a second.
在SDR工作流程中 In an SDR workflows,
想象一下这样一种情况 你只需要点击一个按钮 你就可以改变你的ot茶或输出变换从STR到每年 imagine a situation where you just click one button you change your ot tea or output transform from STR to each year,
突然之间 and all of a sudden,
我的天哪 在你的每个显示器上看起来都很棒 you're like holy crap that looks amazing on each of your monitor,
只要做一点修剪就可以了 with a little little bit of work in terms of doing trims its is there.
我非常鼓励你们所有人在你们正在使用的这个工具上投入更多的精力来学习更多关于色彩管理的知识 I would really encourage all of you to invest heavily in learning more about color management in this particular tool that you're using,
因为这真的是件大事 because it's a really big deal.
这就是沃尔特可能会对我大吼大叫的地方因为在肮脏的工作流程中 Now this is where Walter is probably going to yell at me a little bit rate because in the dirty work flow,
我们马上就会讲到 as we'll talk about in a second.
传统上 Traditionally,
很多人认为每个TRS都是正确的 a lot of people thought about each trs is sure right,
我要给你的项目捐款 like I'm going to I'm going to donate to your project.
让我先在Hdr中工作 Let me work in Hdr first,
多年来 我一直大力提倡这一点 and I have been in a big advocate for that for a number of years.
但在过去的两三年里 我真的来到了SDR的第一批劳动力 But in the past two or three years I've really come around to this SDR first workforce.
对我来说 And I think comes out for me,
第一件事直到今天 a couple of things number one still to this day,
即使是在2001年 even in two thousand and twenty one.
这可能是最吸引眼球的地方 This is probably where the most eyeballs are going to be right eyeballs matter,
它们应该是你选择的方向的一部分 and they should be a part of the direction that you take.
从工作流程的角度来看 From a work flow point of view.
世界反兴奋剂机构的眼球会一片混乱 WADA eyeballs are going to be a mess,
你的版本和真正的舒适水平 your version and truly the comfort level,
dps董事 dps directors,
的颜色 colors,
等 etc.
看着STR Looking at STR,
图像现在仍然是 images is still right now,
比看HDR图像时要大得多 much greater than it is looking at hdr images.
我房间里有dps I've had dps in the room.
你把它转到人力资源部 You flip it over to HR,
他们走了 they go.
哦 Oh,
我的上帝 my God,
这是什么 What is this?
这是一种新的语言 It's a new language.
这对他们来说是新事物 It's a new thing for them.
你不能指望房间里的每个人都突然 You can't expect everybody in the room to all of a sudden.
除了hdr except hdr.
这样的速度 Like that rate.
能够先写特别提款权 and the ability to work an SDR first write,
它为这些人提供了一个舒适的水平 然后搬进去 it provides a comfort level for those people to then move later into.
每条鲨鱼 each shark is,
毕竟 after all,
在很多项目中 in a lot of projects.
七十年 Seventy,
五千年 five thousand,
图像的990%与Hdr版本相同 nine hundred ninety percent of the image is identical to the Hdr version.
为什么不建个一流的 Why not build that look out first rate,
这非常简单 and this is exceptionally easy.
我认为在一个我称之为修剪工作流程中 你开始你的第一个 你修剪各种可交付房间的hdr I think in a what I call a trim up workflow where you're starting up your first and you are trimming up to hdr for various deliverables room.
但这不是唯一的原因 But that's not the only one.
当然可以 Of course.
每一天 Each day,
我们的第一个工作流 our first workflows,
一件大事 a big thing,
这主要是 and this is principally how,
但他们会有远见 but they'll be vision,
工作流程 work flow,
的作品 works,
在HDR中你的评分是第一其他的都在后面 your grading first in hdr and everything is downstream from there,
我想要的 and I want,
我的意思是 I mean,
购买各种各样的HDR 自由主义者的低净值 buy everything various hdr the liberals' lower net.
这是你的可交付成果 It's your deliverables.
问你的可交付成果 Asked your deliverables.
在这个工作的基础上 你实际上在你想要做的任何选择的掌握水平上都很优秀 你在你工作的任何宽广的范围内都做得很好 In the base of the way this works is you do You're actually are great at whatever chosen mastering level you want to do you do it in whatever wide gamut that you're working with.
这通常是P3dixiede65 this usually P three dixie de sixty five,
或产后抑郁症 or PPD,
2200个集装箱里有65个 sixty five in two thousand and twenty container.
有时候在2000年到2020年之间 Sometimes it's just true between two thousand and twenty,
但这并不常见 but that's not very common.
啊 Ah,
在你完成了每个股份等级的比率后 after you finish that each share grade rate,
你用杜比专有算法分析你的录像 you analyze your footage with the proprietary Dolby algorithm.
这就产生了所谓的市长一级元数据 And this creates what's called El One metadata from mayor.
作为调色师 你可以进一步完善它 You can further refine that as a colorist,
警察背后的想法是流动的 an idea behind bobbies were flow.
这有点接近了 This is to kind of closer.
我提供了更接近原来的hdr等级 I have provided closer match the original hdr grade,
取决于您使用的是哪个版本的额外修剪 depending on which version you are working with this additional trimming.
啊 Ah,
克里奇 Creech,
被称为El元数据 was called El metadata,
或者18个元数据 or l eight metadata,
它在hdr版本中工作得非常好 And it works exceptionally well as far as I'm concerned for hdr versions,
我仍然 I'm still.
如果他在特别提款权衍生的版本 但降低下游 If he on the SDR derived version but for lowered downstream,
你会说有六百八千七百个HDR版本 you'll say six hundred and eighty seven hundred and hdr versions.
现在 Now,
沃尔特 Walter.
我知道你会说你会说这一切都很糟糕 I know you're going to say you're going to say it sucks all around,
但是没有 but no,
不 no.
不 No,
我只是想告诉你我想告诉你的是有一天你坐在我旁边我会告诉你我是怎么做的 I'm just telling you what I want to tell you is one day you sit with me and I'll show you what I do,
然后你说 and then you say,
哦 Oh,
这是辉煌的 that's brilliant.
我相信你所做的一切 I'm sure as everything you do,
我可能会说 我也会说 我们会讲到最后 I would probably say that I would also say I also as we'll get to the end.
在演讲结束时 At the end of this talk,
我想说是90岁 I want to say that ninety,
可能超过95%的衍生版本的失败是由我们大多数人 probably more than that ninety five per cent of failure at derived versions is by most of us.
把它变成hdr年级的11 Turn it to eleven in the hdr grade.
就因为我们可以 just because we can,
我知道 I know.
当我第一次开始给Hdr评分的时候 when I first started grading Hdr I was like,
嘿 Hey,
一切都会变得疯狂 everything's going to be crazy.
向右打破 所有东西都将被推到11 Break right and everything is going to be pushed to eleven.
这就更难了 That's much harder to great.
在剩余部分创建好的驱动版本 Create good drive versions down the remnant.
现在我可以告诉你更多关于杜比视觉的事 Now I can tell you a lot more about Dolby Vision.
但我个人想说的是我和我的生意伙伴 But my little personal plug for you here is myself and my business partner,
我和乔迪·安 Jodi Ann and I for Adobe,
杜比研究所 The Dolby Institute.
几年前 A couple of years ago,
我们做了一系列免费视频 we did a series of free videos.
杜比研究所总共有12部录像 There are twelve videos and total at the Dolby Institute.
你可以去这个链接 You'd go to this link here.
他们是完全免费的 They're completely free,
他们只需要你的电子邮件地址 they just need your email address.
一些解决的东西是有点过时的颜色管理 Some of the resolved stuff is slightly out of date color management,
妻子 wives.
因为这是两年前的事了 Because this was two years ago or so.
但是当涉及到全球视野时 你会得到一般工作流程的想法以及如何那样做 But you will get the idea of the general workflow when it comes to global vision and how that way.
好吧 Okay,
在我们进入第二部分之前还有几件事 couple more things here before we move on to the second part,
我知道你们还剩五六分钟 and I know you've got about five or six minutes left.
所以很容易将SDR内容转换为hdr So it's really easy to do SDR content to hdr.
这是我现在生意的一个重要部分 This is actually a big part of my business right now.
我想问的是 有哪些网络正在寻求将他们已经做过的内容重新货币化 现在他们正在转向类似平台之类的东西 对吗 May I ask what of networks are looking to re monetize content that they've already done Now that they're moving to the kind of ot kind of platform kind of thing right?
他们有一个巨大的化学图书馆 They have a whole huge library of each to chemists.
磁带还在某个架子上 它们要走了 Are tapes sitting on a shelf somewhere and they're going.
我该如何将其货币化 How can I be monetize that?
有很多方法可以做到这一点 And there's a lot of ways to do that.
你可以用这样的方框自动完成 You can do it automatically with a box like this.
每年的FSFhdrFs都来自HJ The FSF hdr Fs each year are from H J.
你可以一枪一枪地打 You can do it shot by shot,
但对于那些有客户的人来说 这是我绝对会考虑的事情 因为他们很快就会来敲门 然后离开 but this is something I would definitely consider for those of you who have clients to have a lot of library content and because they're going to come knocking soon and go.
嘿 Hey,
听着 listen,
我想把东西移到hdr I want to move things hdr.
我们该怎么做呢 How do we do that,
肯定有办法做到这一点 and there's definitely a way to do that.
斯蒂芬妮的好作品 Stephanie good works,
然后我要跳过一点 Then I am going to skip ahead a little bit here,
我想总结几句 and I just want to wrap up with a couple.
技术的东西 Technical things,
因为你知道 because you know,
如果我不同时谈点科技 那我就是失职了 I would be remiss if I didn't talk little tech at the same time.
当然 这并不是结束 And of course this is not the end.
一切都是这一切的保护 All be all of these protect at all.
这只是让你开始 It's just to kind of get you started.
我认为作为一名调色师 I think when it comes to reach Europe as a colorist,
最可怕的事情之一是 它是一个由术语组成的字母汤 E T 和音调 one of the most intimidating things is it's an alphabet soup of terms you know E T s and tone,
映射和所有这些东西 mapping and all this stuff.
这意味着谁的多重标准 What does it all mean whose multiple standards,
他们所有的监控折磨着所有的飞机 而你在互联网上的谷歌机器提供的一个孤儿告诉你的事情 只是没有任何意义 all their monitoring suffering all of that jet and you go on the internet in the Google machine offers an orphan is telling you things that just don't make any sense.
通常 Oftentimes,
谷歌是面向消费者的 Google is geared towards consumer stuff,
而不是我们所做的 and not what we do.
当我想到人们会做视力评估时 我总是会笑 I always have a laugh when I think about people doing like there'll be vision reviews,
然而 不同 unlike yet,
你不知道这对你来说是如何运作的 因为他们从消费者的角度来看 这在一定程度上是有意义的 you have no idea how this works to you because they are looking at it from a consumer in which to a certain degree makes sense.
几年前 大约一年前 So a couple of years ago about a year ago before the pandemic,
好吧 well,
我在做现场直播 I was doing a live event.
我和我的搭档在伦敦询问出席活动的人 My partners and I were due in London when we asked the people in attendance at the event.
你觉得怎么样 What do you think about it?
这对你来说意味着什么 What does it mean to you?
你知道 And you know,
这个组中有31个人说我想要的是非常明亮的视频还有你知道的手在额头上的拍打率 thirty one people in this group said I would just means really bright video and also so you know a hand on the forehead smack rate,
因为对我来说 HDR不仅仅是超级明亮的视频 because to me hdr is way more than just super bright video.
我们被这个编织的小东西缠住了 We get caught up in this little knit thing.
它是关于动态范围率的 It's about dynamic range rate,
但当你仔细想想 but when you think about it,
有很多因素影响图像质量 there's a lot of components to it to image quality,
颜色的体积 color volume,
动态范围 dynamic range,
位深度 bit depth.
所有这些结合在一起都非常重要当我们谈到每年的时候 All of these things combine to be really important in the image it just so happens when we talk about each year.
我们想的是光明的东西 We think about the bright stuff,
但对我来说 我们的每一次谈话都围绕着更好的像素发生了很多事情 but to me there's so much more that's happening in each of our conversation that revolves around better pixels,
这正是我感到兴奋的地方 and that's what I'm excited about.
是的 Yeah,
正确的东西很酷 right stuff is cool,
但影子也是如此 but so are shadows.
作为动态范围 So as dynamic range,
更好的位深度也是如此 so is better bit depth.
所有这些都对创造整体更好的图像很重要 All of those things matter to creating overall better images.
你知道的 you know,
这是一个伟大的 and this is a great,
朋友十点发来的小图表 a little graph from our friends at ten o'clock.
他们几年前做了一个报告 they give a presentation a few years ago.
我从他们那里得到安慰 I solace from them.
你知道的 You know,
所有这些都是独立的 all of these things are independent,
你可以有 you can have.
我们就是不这么做 We just don't do it,
但是你可以有hddhdr but you could have H d hdr.
实际上 actually,
我是一个律师 I'm an advocate.
我坚信如果我们在几年前就放弃了新的HTML而只拥有HDhdr I firmly believe if we had just given up on new HTML for K a number of years ago and just had HD hdr.
我们现在会有比现在更好的像素的电视 We'd have much better pixel some TV right now than we do now,
你知道的 you know,
但所有这些都是独立的 but all of these things are kind of independent.
我们恰好为K分组 We just happen to group for K,
十位 ten bit,
三 P three,
等 etc.
在hdr对话中 In the hdr conversation.
每一年 When it comes to each year,
我想很多人都会想到这样的图像 I think a lot of people think about images like this or you know,
疯了 crazy,
摘要 abstract,
真正强大的图像 really robust images,
或者他们想到HDR眼成像 or they think about hdr eye imaging,
你知道的 you know,
将多重曝光组合在一起 combining multiple exposures together.
Hdr视频不是这样的 That's not what Hdr video is.
Hdr视频是单一曝光 Hdr video is a single exposure.
不是这种合并的方法 It's not this merged approach.
它甚至不是合并的方法 it's not even the merged approach.
就像几年前 Like several years ago,
Red在HdrX上做的 Red did with Hdr X.
它不是把多个图像组合起来 It's not combining multiple images,
这是关于一次曝光 it's about a single exposure,
这是关于动态范围的 and it really is about dynamic range.
色调范围 The tonal range,
的对比 the contrast,
从黑色到白色的差异 the difference from black to white right,
现在有很多显示器可以变得非常明亮和蓝色这并不意味着它们是HDR你可以让一个显示器有3000分钟的时间 and there are plenty of displays out there right now that can get super bright and blue in ways that doesn't mean they're hdr you can make a display have three thousand minutes.
但如果黑端同时向上移动 but if that black end is moving up at the same time,
你变得更明亮 you're getting brighter.
它不会再看了 It's not going to look any more,
你知道稳健的比率 you know robust rate.
还有两件事 还有三件事 Two more things here are three more things we were quickly.
我来包起来 I'll wrap it up.
Hdr也与颜色有关 Hdr is also about color.
宽配子的体积 A volume in wide gametes.
7或9是一个很小的音域 Seven or nine is a really small gamut,
这是真的 and it's really,
我认为 I think,
多年来 我们很多人可能对自己感到沮丧 for a lot of us probably frustrated at us over the years,
我们正转向更宽的钻石领域 这太棒了 it's awesome that we're moving into wider diamonds,
有趣的是 我们正在转向更大的颜色体积 and it's also interesting that we're moving into larger color volume.
一个颜色 A color volume,
当然 of course,
就是当你把选择的色域和亮度结合起来 is what happens when you combine the chosen gamut with luminous right,
大家可以看到 and you can see here you know,
沉船和阿姨 Wrecks and aunt,
一种荣誉 an honor,
海滩七或九 Beachy Seven or Nine,
与2020年相比 compared to be two thousand and twenty.
这是一个更大的蜡笔盒 可以用像P这样的东西覆盖 It's a much larger crayon box to cover with in something like P,
三到二千二十比七到九 three or two thousand and twenty than it is seven or nine.
这是非常令人兴奋的颜色 and that's a really exciting thing as the colors.
就我而言 As far as I'm concerned.
让我跳过一点 Let me skip ahead just a little bit here.
我想说的是 我要跳过杜比法案 I want to talk about I'm going to skip over Dolby Act of the W.
我还想总结一下 Would there be this I just want to wrap up with.
一对夫妻必须知道术语 A couple must know terms.
这些是你们将要看到的东西 These are some things that you're going to see right,
你知道的 you know,
Knit是人人都在谈论的大产品 Knit is the big one that everybody talks about.
这是每平方米的吊唁量 This is a measurement of condolence per meter squared.
这是实际的亮度测量你的TF作为另一个 This is actual brightness measurement your TF as another one.
你会在这段对话中看到很多 You're going to see in this conversation a lot.
它代表电光传递函数 It stands for electro optical transfer function,
但这是我们将数据从一个地方转换到另一个高峰的方式 but it's kind of how we convert data from one place to another peak.
你问每一个184个 You ask each one hundred eighty four.
嘿 Hey,
这些都是 these are all.
这是我们在hdr中用到的很多东西的曲线 This is the curve that we're using in hdr for a lot of things here,
至少在美国是这样 at least in the U.
年代 S.
但是我想要概括的是财富 抱歉我跳过了一些 But the big one I want to wrap up on wealth and I'm sorry I'm skipping over some of these,
根据预算 我按照之前说的做了 I did as daring said earlier by budget.
时间还不够吗 Did that not enough time?
为了这个 For some of this?
在他的语气中 我想说的是最重要的一点 here's the big one that I think I really want to talk about in wrap up on his tone.
我认为映射色调映射是许多人感到困惑的事情之一 Mapping tone mapping is one of those things that I think confuses a lot of people.
但色调映射实际上非常简单 But tone mapping is actually pretty simple.
语气 Tone,
映射 mapping,
动态地图 dynamically maps,
从一个显示的呼叫音量和亮度是标准的另一个 the call volume and luminance from one displayed are standard to another,
它在HDR中扮演着非常重要的角色因为事实上有很多这样的功能 and it plays a really big role in hdr because the fact is there's a lot of this plays out there that have varying capabilities.
在沃尔特斯的房间里 In a walters room,
他可能会有一个x300或者其他什么能造成1000人死亡和一个煤矿的东西 he might have an X three hundred or whatever that does a thousand deaths and a full coal mine.
我可能在家里看录像 I might be watching it on a video at home.
沃尔特斯分数是如何在家里转换到我的hdrvisio上的 How does Walters grade translate to my hdr visio at home right?
这通常是基调映射的作用 That often is often as it is the role of tone mapping,
所以说到色调映射 so when it comes to tone mapping,
这是这个例子 here's that example,
所以我们有了一个参考千位即时沃尔特斯 so we have a reference thousand instant Walters,
在正确的工作 working on right.
他在引诱那些漂亮的客户在房间里跟他击掌 He's baiting it's beautiful clients for giving high fives around the room.
我回家 I get home,
我家里有一台650人观看的电视 and I have a six hundred and fifty men TV at home.
我不想做的是将图像数据从图像顶部截取出来显示在我的650个男性显示器上同样的事情在顶部是正确的 What I don't want to do is just clip image data off of the top of the image to show it on my six hundred and fifty men display same thing is true at the top as it wasn't,
我想做的是 It was the bottom when I want to do is,
我想要动态地将这些数据映射到我正在制作的电视的性能上 I want to dynamically map that data to the performance of my actual TV that I'm working on who are looking out at home.
这就是色调映射的意义所在 And that's what tone mapping is all about.
关于色调映射 每个人的做法都不一样 The thing about tone mapping is that it's done differently by everybody.
所有不同的制造商和你 all the different manufacturers and you,
因为调色师并不能真正控制色调映射 as the colorist don't really have control over that tone mapping.
所以这 so this.
重点是 当你做每一个问候的时候 the point is that when you're doing each of your greeting,
我在杜比的朋友肖恩 my buddy Shane at Dolby,
几个月前我走进他的套房 I walked in his suite a couple of months ago,
他的房间里有十三到十四种不同的展品 and he had like thirteen or fourteen different displays in his room.
这是一个耻辱 And it's a shame.
你为什么会有这个 Why do you have this?
很多显示器你的房间 因为我只是需要能够检查的基调 Many displays your room because I just need to be able to check out the tone.
在西雅图所有这些显示器上的映射性能率 Mapping on all these displays in Seattle performance rate.
这是你们将要面对的 that is something that you will face.
对hdr的分级是由于音调的不同有很多可变性和猜测 Grading hdr is that there's a lot of variability and guesses because of tone.
映射在此执行 Mapping in this performed.
这就是它的结局 And this is kind of how it would end up.
如果你没有色调映射 If you didn't have tone mapping,
你会在质量较差的显示器上看到非常糟糕的图像 you'd have a really crappy image on a lesser quality display.
最后两张幻灯片 Very last thing at two more slides,
最后两杯 these last two glasses,
大量的承诺 lots of promise,
色彩管理管道要注意的五件事 five things to focus on color management pipeline.
正确的 Right.
你必须有一个坚固的公共入口 You have to have a robust common entrance.
我计划在每年工作 I plan to work in each year.
您必须真正了解监视管道 You have to understand a monitoring pipelines you really do.
你必须理解并精通不同的显示器在做什么 you have to understand and be well versed on what different displays are doing.
即使是在消费者方面 Even on the consumer side,
你必须考虑图像分割 you have to think about image segmentation,
我们没有深入讨论它 因为我不能在缩放控制上展示它 and we didn't get into it because I can't really show it on a zoom kong.
但这正是让我兴奋的地方 But that's the thing that's exciting to me about it.
你的问候不仅仅是光明的东西 Your greeting is that it's not just the bright stuff,
这是中音 it's the mid tones.
这是较低的中音 it's the lower mid tones.
它的阴影 it's the shadows.
所有这些东西不仅仅是打破明亮的明亮 超级令人兴奋 控制颜色是非常重要的 It's all of that stuff that is not just break bright bright that super exciting and having control over that as the colors is really important.
我也 I'm also.
这不仅仅是光明的东西 it's not just about bright stuff,
是关于动态范围的 it's about dynamic range.
我认为我在每个分享场景中看到的一些最有力的图像是微妙的 是变化多侧的 是你一遍又一遍地看的 I think some of the most robust images that I've seen in each share landscape are ones that are subtle and are ones that are varied and ones that you watch over and over again and go.
我之前没注意到在阴影里这很酷 I ain't noticed that in the shadows before that's cool right,
同时我认为我们应该把重点放在Hdr是一种讲故事的工具上 and also I think we've got to focus on Hdr is a storytelling tool.
如果我们做hdr If we do hdr,
我们的余生就像这个超酷的技术一样 超级明亮 超级丰富多彩 for the rest of our lives is just like this cool technology that super bright and super colorful.
它会失败的 It's going to fail.
Hdr真的需要帮助电影制作人讲故事 Hdr really needs to help filmmakers tell stories,
最后一件事 and then last thing.
你会犯错误的 You're going to make mistakes.
我做了一个节目 我都要发誓我是法国人了 I make a show I started about to swear I make a French.
我猜一下 I make a guess.
我犯了很多错误 当它的份额 I make a ton of mistakes when it comes to its share of time.
对我来说就是这样 right then that to me that comes up.
我总是对色彩管理管道感到困惑 I get confused in color management pipelines all time,
我在做什么 and like what am I doing?
这发生了什么变化 What does this transform its went on.
你要把它变成11 You're going to turn it to eleven.
我给你该死的 第二 你提供了一个能够的hdr显示器 I gehring damned to you' the second that you are provided with a capable of hdr monitor,
你只要把它调到11 它就会 you're just going to crank it to eleven and it's gonna.
看起来很不错 look great on that display,
在其他人的屏幕上它看起来就像垃圾一样 因为它就在那里 and it's going to look like crap on everybody else display just because it's there,
因为你可以 并不意味着你应该写很多东西 像高光和没有东西 and because you can doesn't mean that you should write a lot of things like specular highlights and not have stuff.
如果你仔细看 就不会发现很多 There's not a lot of if you look at.
通常情况下 Typically,
如果你看我们跳过的pq曲线 if you look at the pq curve which we skipped over,
我很抱歉 因为时间的利益 这不是很多代码值 I'm sorry because the interest of time this is not a lot of code values.
的方式 Way up there.
在最精彩的部分 你不会在3000分钟内讲述详细的故事 In the brightest stuff you're not going to tell detailed stories at three thousand minutes.
你可以有一些很棒的东西 You can have some great stuff,
但是并没有太多的信息来描述人们的脸 but there's not a lot of information up there to really describe people's faces.
天空的音调等等 the tonality of sky is etcetera.
最后 and then finally,
如果你进入了W愿景的工作流程 if you do get into a W vision work flow.
我认为人们犯的最大错误是他们试图把杜比视觉控制当成分级控制 而不是光栅控制 I think the big mistake fell out of people make Is they try to treat Dolby vision controls as grading controls but not grating controls.
他们通过控制来获得输出率 They are massaging controls to get a output rate.
就是这样 So there's that so.
是的 Yeah,
我很抱歉 I'm sorry,
沃尔特 Walter,
我跑得有点长 I ran a little long man.
教育 educate,
我们很快就上去把指挥棒交给布莱恩 we were going up quickly to give thee the baton to Brian,
非常感谢 Thank you very much.
我会修好每一代人都很赞的东西 I'll fix what every generation absolutely awesome.
顺便说一下 Merkel and employed by the way,
我的另一个个人英雄被夹在他和时间之间是很吓人的 is another personal hero of my being sandwiched between him and time is it's intimidating,
但是布莱恩 祝你好运 把信息告诉大家 but Brian best of luck to you man and give the people the knowledge.
现在我绝对要感谢Robbie Now I absolutely thanks Robbie.
我觉得很有趣 因为你和我讨论过Hdr我很想做一些 I thought it was funny because you and I have had these discussions about Hdr and I am so desperate to do some,
就好像我一转身就有人在说这有多棒 and it feels like I can't turn around without somebody talking about how awesome it is,
它只是和眼睛 and it's just and eye.
在我的工作室里流传着一个关于我有多想做hdr的笑话 It's a running joke in my studio about how badly I want to do hdr.
所以在我演讲之前 so it's just absolutely fitting that right before I talk,
你会再次谈论每一个罐子 让我觉得我错过了很多机会 you would talk all about each jar again and make me feel like I'm missing out big time,
但没有一处进展顺利 but nowhere is going well.
嘿 Hey,
祝你和沃尔特好运 best of luck and Walter.
感谢你加入整个税务团队 thank you into the whole tax team,
2月 February,
比利时和贝塞尔 Belgium and Bessel.
每个人都这么想 所以当我失去时间的时候你是一个很有成就的商业人士 What everybody thinks so much so that I either when I lose time you're a very accomplished of commercial,
放很多盐就可以了 very salt for just go.
我不想介绍你就这么走了 I don't really want to introduce to just go.
请给我们看点有趣的东西 Please show us something fun.
好吧 Okay?
明白了 Gotcha,
明白了 gotcha,
明白了 gotcha.
好 Well.
好吧 Well,
我想今天我们要讲一些有点不同的东西 I think today we're going to go over something that's going to be a little different.
它将是 it's going to be,
我们要进入一个点然后谈谈这个点背后的想法 we're going to kind of go into a spot and kind of the thoughts behind the spot,
我认为在打破我试图做的事情的过程中 and I think in the process of kind of breaking down what I tried to do,
我认为会有学习的机会 希望能学到一些东西 I think there will be a chance to to learn to hopefully learn some stuff.
也许能学到一些技巧之类的 Maybe pick up some tips and things like that,
所以我简单介绍一下我自己 so I'll just introduce myself real quick,
我是后期制作 制作和静态照片的配色师 名为布鲁姆街和圣路易斯 and I'm a colourist at the post production and production and still photo facility called Broome Street and St Louis.
所以我不是在大市场 So I'm not in the big markets,
但最酷的是 你仍然可以做很酷的工作 but what's cool is that you can still do really cool work,
无论你在哪里 no matter where you are,
当然 我认为改变改变了一些 and certainly I think of it as change changed some of that,
所以我做了很多事情 so I do a whole lot of stuff.
我可能主要做商业工作 I do probably mostly commercial work.
我做过一些特写和短片 也做过一些音乐视频 I do do feature and short film work here and there some music videos as well.
但它有一点限制因素 But it is a little bit of a limiting factor.
在地理上 Geographically,
只是没有很多人像我一样在写未来的故事 there's just not a lot of people doing big future narratives where I'm at,
所以我不喜欢 so I don't.
我不常做这种事 I don't get those is often I've done.
我只有一把 I had only a handful,
有几个 a handful of those.
我们今天要讲什么呢 So what are we going to talk about today?
虽然我觉得看看如何把它切换到我的桌面会很有趣 While I thought it would be fun to take a look at how to switch this over to my desktop here,
我觉得看火花会很有趣 I thought it would be fun to look at a spark.
你能分享一下吗 还是只是展示一下 Can you share or you just showing that?
哦 Oh,
让我们看看 let's see,
我现在不是在分享吗 am I not sharing right now?
还没有 Not yet.
我们再试一次 Let's try this again.
变焦 Zoom,
共享 sharing.
我换回我自己 I'll switch back to me and.
我的意思是 I mean,
是的 yeah,
我们看到了 所以总有一天我会闭嘴 we see there the thing so I'll shut up someday.
你永远是头版 不然我就酷了 You will always be frontpage or I cool.
如果现在不奏效 你看到整个场景了吗 So if it isn't working now are you seeing the whole scene?
玛雅 Maya?
我们可以看到 We can see that,
好吧 OK,
我会烧 I'll get burnt,
我们要讲的项目是我去年做的一个 so the project we're going to talk about is one that I did last year,
去年年底 a late last year.
不是随便跑 Not kind of run through it,
就像我跟你说的那样 as I'm talking talking to you about it.
一个叫 你的心 的项目又回来了 It's a project called Thy Heart is back.
它是为高级汽车零部件在NFL赛季首次亮相 It was for Advanced Auto Parts it debuted during the NFL season.
这是 And it was.
这是一个很酷的地方我想和你们分享的部分原因是为了谈谈我是怎么得到它的 It was a really cool spot in part of the reason that I wanted to share with you was that you know to talk about how I got it,
然后是如何知道我要把它带到哪里去 and then kind of how approach to know I thought about where I was going to take it.
你知道这是死硬派电影第一次被商业化 You know it was the first time that the diehard movies had ever been commercialized.
很明显 Obviously,
合并的机会很难 the opportunity to merge die hard.
电影系列的死忠电池是人们谈论的话题 The battery with diehard the movie franchise was something that people had talked about,
但从未有人做过 but had never been done,
所以这真的是 so it was just a really,
非常整洁 really neat,
整洁 neat,
整洁的事情 neat thing.
这是 It was,
这是一个很大的预算项目 it was a big big budget project.
我从来没有做过这么高水平的项目 I had never done a project quite at this at this level.
之前 Before.
所以这是一次很好的学习经历 so it was a big learning experience.
我知道确切的预算 I know the exact budget,
但它是 But it was,
以百万计 it was in the millions,
他们在大流行期间注射了l and they shot it in l during the during the pandemic and such so.
是的 Yes,
所以真的 so so really,
很酷 really cool,
你知道的 you know,
我首先想说的是 one of the first things I want kind of wanted to talk about was,
你知道的 you know,
你是如何得到这样一个项目的 how do you get a project like this?
我认为这是一件很重要的事情 我不认为总是能得到 and I think this is something that so that's really important in something that I don't think always gets.
关于Gig的话题很多 Gig gets talked about a lot,
所以我就换到我自己身上 and so I'm a kind of switch it to me,
因为如果我能在这里 just because if I can here,
但是但是你知道 but but you know,
我的意思是 I mean,
我想到了很多人问我关于如何成为一名色彩师之类的问题 I think about a lot of the people who ask me questions about how to become a colorist and all this kind of stuff.
你知道 and you know,
我认为这很大程度上与你如何定位自己有关 I think a lot of it has to do with how you position yourself.
你知道 and you know,
我没有接到过这样的项目 I didn't get a project like this.
你知道的 You know,
花费数百万美元的预算 因为光 因为任何我可能做对的技能 with a multimillion dollar budget because of light because of any perceived skills that I might have done right.
它是在长期建立关系之后产生的 It comes after building relationships over time.
对于这个特殊的例子 and so for this particular one,
我记得我在Instagram上 I remember I was on Instagram,
我看到了一些我觉得很有趣的东西 I saw something that I thought was interesting,
财富的冲击 a wealth shock,
我抬起头 and I looked up,
我仰望他的深邃 I looked up to the deep he was,
这个人就在我的家乡圣路易斯 and it was someone who was actually in my hometown of St Louis,
我想 and I thought,
哇 Wow,
我以为镇上的人我都认识 I thought I knew everyone in town,
所以我联系了他 so I reached out to him,
然后我开始做 and then I started to do.
我联系了他 I reached out to him,
认识了他 got to know him,
他和我马上收钱 he and I collect right away.
我们有一种相似的氛围和方法 在新的地方 我们想要进入我们的职业生涯 We had a kind of a similar sort of vibe and approach in new places that we kind of wanted to go in our careers,
所以我有机会为他做一个spect项目 and so I had a chance to do a spect project for him,
然后我为他做了另一个斯佩克项目 and then I did a another Speck project for him,
我想我为他做了另一个微尘项目 and I think I did another speck project for him,
它是有机生长的 and it just kind of grew organically,
后来他搬到了洛杉矶 and then he ended up moving to LA,
然后他勾搭上了一个导演 and then he hooked up with a director.
然后我为这个导演做了很多项目 and then I did a whole bunch of projects for this director and in this director,
这个项目的土地 land this project,
这就是为什么我得到了一个 and that's kind of how I got a nice.
所以我认为 人们应该记住 你的定位和你自己的定位一样重要 So I just think that it's really important for people to remember that it's just as critical that you position yourself,
你知道的 You know,
通过这种方式获得这样的项目 因为这只是为了培养你的技能 in such a way to get projects like this as it is just to build your skills,
所以我认为这是 and so this is something that I think is just.
这真的很重要吗 Is this really important?
我想我们会更深入一点当我们经过这里的时候会更深入一点 I think we'll kind of get a little more get a little more into that kind of as we as we go through here.
但当我首先回到这个话题时 But as I switch back to this first of all,
我们会稍微讲一下这里的思维过程 we're going to talk a little bit about kind of what the thought process was here,
这很简洁 因为 and this is neat because you know,
我很早就被告知的一件事是我不需要匹配最初的死亡方式 one of the things that I was told very early on was that I didn't have to match how the original die.
电影看 hard movies looked,
而是我觉得他们想让我说出自己的感受 but that I thought they wanted me to give my interpretation of what I felt like.
一个死 A die.
艰难的电影会看起来像今天拍的 Hard movie would look like if it were shot today,
所以你知道 and so you know,
我想了很多 I thought a lot about,
DP和我谈论过像Johnwick这样的电影 看看这里 and the DP and I talked about movies like John wick and let's see here,
约翰 John.
什么也能开车 what can drive as well,
我觉得很有趣 which I thought was funny.
考虑到汤姆在这 Consider we have Tom on here,
但你知道 but you know,
我们讨论过这些 we talked about kind of these.
这些最大的颜色对比非常深 These this maximum color contrast is really deep,
黑人 blacks,
这就是我们所追求的方向 and so that was kind of you know kind of the direction we were going for as a kind of you know,
通过一些其他的 move through some of these other.
还有一些是从这些电影中截取的片段 some of these other you know grabs from these films and things like that.
这就变成了 so that kind of became,
你知道的 you know,
有点像吸血鬼的样子 kind of the V look.
这个项目的DNA是 DNA of the project was,
我们怎么做 How do we make something?
看现代 Look modern,
但你也知道 but also you know,
有点像数字化的有点像数字化的领域因为它新颖又令人兴奋 kind of have a little bit of a digital little bit of a digital field because it's new and exciting.
另外一件我觉得很酷的事是 And then the other thing which I thought was what was really cool was.
如果你们有人看过这个作品 This is a piece where if you any of you have have seen it,
这是一首非常搞笑的作品 布鲁斯在自嘲 it's a piece where that's very tongue in cheek right so Bruce is making fun of himself,
他在拿他之前演过的电影里的一些场景开玩笑之类的 and he's making fun of you know some of the the scenes that he has been in previous movies and things like that.
所以所以也有机会 So so there was a chance too.
对动作类电影进行取笑 并努力将其推向墨黑 以达到最大的色彩对比 Poke fun at kind of the action genre and to really push it push it hard right to go for inky blacks to go for maximum color contrast.
就像罗比在哈佛商业评论里说的那样 And so you know to kind of as Robbie set in his HBR thing,
把它推到11点 to kind of push it to eleven.
这是一种 So that was kind of the.
我们的目标就是成功 The goal here was to make it.
你们知道很多对比 You know a lot of contrast,
很多黑人 a lot of deep blacks,
很多颜色 a lot of color,
对比之类的 contrast and such so,
我要从最开始讲起 I'm just going to kind of start at the beginning.
我们也要讲讲我做过的事 We're gonna go through what I did too,
建造的时候 to build to kind of,
构建这个项目 然后构建外观 build this project and and build the look.
我希望是希望你能 and I hope it's hope you can kind of you know,
学习 Learn,
到处学点东西 learn a thing or two here and there.
让我说我在决议16中做了这个 So let me say that I did this in resolves sixteen.
这是之前 That was before.
这是一种新的色彩管理 It's kind of the new color management things like that.
这也是在我采用固定结点结构之前 So this was also before I had adopted a fixed nodes to have fixed node structure,
我现在几乎一直使用固定节点结构 and I used fixed node structures now almost all the time.
但我并不是特别针对这个 But I didn't in particular for this for this one.
所以我做的更多的是对不同的场景采用不同的结构 So what I'm more did was kind of a little bit of a different structure for different scenes and such so,
你知道的 you know,
所以你可以看到这张照片和这张照片有一点不同的结构 so you can see this shot is a little bit of a different structure than this shot and such.
但是 but.
我们先来看看 But so let's just kind of go through here.
从头再来 kind of start start from the beginning,
这是拍摄的 so this was shot,
通风 airy,
生 raw,
这是另一件好事 and it's another good good thing.
要提到的是 这是你和DP的其中一个对话 to mention is that this is one of those conversations that you have with the DP.
在这一切开始之前你知道你要用什么样的相机格式吗 Before any of this ever begins is you know what camera formats that did that you're going to use and such like that in such?
所以对我来说 So to me,
我谈到这一点 我有机会与通风的raw工作 I talked about this I had had a chance to work with airy raw.
这显然是我最喜欢的格式 It is obviously my favorite format.
到目前为止 所有数据都很重 两分钟后 By far full data heavy this hold two minutes.
Spot本身大约有16tb Spot was about sixteen terabyte itself.
它绝对是巨大的 It was absolutely massive,
但有些东西我真的很喜欢 but there are certain things about airy raw that I really really like,
其中一些和你可以从原始图像中提取的细节量有关 and some have a lot of them have to do with the amount of detail that you can pull out of the raw image Through some of these,
你知道其中一些 you know some of these.
下面的工具就像照相机的中间调 Tools down here in camera roll like mid tone,
细节和清晰度 detail and sharpness.
你可以看到我已经把中间调调了不少 You can see that I've pulled quite a bit of mid tone,
细节和锐度从这个图像 detail and sharpness out of this image.
这个特殊的开始图像 this particular opening image here.
如果我们讨论这里的主要DNA So if we talk about the main DNA of the look here,
从第一个结点开始 it really starts with our first node,
这是我们的电影模拟 which is our film emulation.
这是我的一个富士仿真 This is a a Fuji emulation that I have.
这是log作为输入 that's expecting logs see as its input,
这就是我开始的地方 so that's kind of where I started,
这就给了我们一种 and that just gave us kind of a nice,
一个很好的开始 a nice beginning point,
最后你们会看到 and then as you'll see throughout at the end,
最后有一个小节点 I've got a little one node at the end,
只是因为电影仿真租户没有把黑色的东西放在我想要的地方 just because of the film emulation tenant did not put black kind of right where I wanted.
这只是一点点一点点的黑色向下拉这样就可以让我有更多的控制 It's just a little bit of a just just a little bit of a pull down of the blacks and such just because you know so I can have a little bit more more control,
如果你还记得 and if you remember,
你知道在沃尔特之前 you know in Walter's previous,
如果你看过沃尔特斯之前的训练 If you watch Walters previous tak resolved training,
他说了很多关于从上到下的工作 he talked a lot about kind of working from the top down.
当然 And of course,
我当时看到了沃尔特斯的事 I had seen Walters thing at that point,
所以你知道 so you know,
我有 I have,
我现在就在这么做 I been doing this now.
也许我会把这堆东西放在时间层面上 Maybe I would have taken this lot and put it more at the timeline level.
我能不能把东西再分类一下 May I would have grouped things a little more,
但这是其中一个项目 每个商店都非常不同 but this is one of those projects were each shop is very different than the next,
所以每一个都有自己的事情 so each one can kind of have a little bit of its own thing going on,
所以它不是 so it wasn't.
这不是一种可怕的可怕的方式 It wasn't a terrible a terrible way.
如何接近它 Way way to approach it,
但这正是我想要的 but that's kind of a kind of what I went for there.
当我把它分解的时候 and so as I kind of break this down,
你可以看到 you can see,
我们已经有了 so we've got.
我们有很多我们的外观 还有我建造的地方 We've got a lot of our look here and then we've also got where I built.
颜色 Color.
分离是在这里在上面的这个区域我工作的工作室拍摄了很多红色的相机 Separation was kind of in this in this in this area above here and the studio that I worked for shoots a lot of red cameras,
所以我所做的就是建立三维模型 so what I had done was I have built in three D.
让创造者做很多工作把颜色投进我所说的那种 Let creator a lot that does a really nice job of pushing color casts into kind of what I called.
上面的中色调实际上更像上面的阴影 The kind of the upper mid tones are actually more like the upper shadows,
我认为这是很多这种轰动一时的形象真正存在的地方 which is where I think a lot of a lot of this sort of blockbuster look really lives in.
我的观点 My opinion,
大概在这个区域 is kind of in this area.
对吧 Right?
我的意思是通常特别是当你谈论像这样的轰动一时的事情时 I mean often especially when you're talking about a blockbuster thing like this,
你通常想要一个干净的黑色 你可以在这里看到 you often want a nice clean blacks which you can see down here,
但是你想要推颜色 but you want to push color,
投射到他的上阴影中 casts into kind of his upper shadow mid tone region,
我发现可以让你操纵图像数据的工具 就像在三维立方体中 可以让你把颜色推到中性区域 and I find that tools that let you manipulate image data as in more of like the three D cube lets you push color into neutral areas,
还有由亮度值决定的中性区域 but also neutral areas that are defined by their luminance values as well.
它以一种更独特的方式来做 而不是仅仅抓住你的木轮或你的原色你把颜色推到所有的阴影里 It does it in kind of a more unique way than you would do by perhaps just grabbing your log wheels or your primaries that you're pushing color into all of the shadows,
这并不是我一直想要的 and that's not necessarily what I always want.
我想在阴影中加入中性的色彩 I want to push color into the neutral values of the shadows.
这就是为什么我建造了这片土地来帮助我 就像我说的 And so that's why I had kind of built this lot to kind of help me do that and like I said,
因为我的工作室大部分都是用红色摄像机 because my studio works in largely in red cameras,
这是用3g10的红原木建造的 this was built in red log Three g ten.
你可以看到在每一边都有 so you can see on each side here I've got,
我把logC转换成红对数 I'm doing a conversion from log C into red log,
然后我把所有的东西放在那里 and then I'm doing the putting the lot there,
然后我要把剩下的瑞安换成木头座位 and then I'm converting back into log seat for the rest of my Ryan.
是的 Yes,
只是一件事 just one thing,
因为我们看到你的提要已经压缩到你的演示文稿了 because we are seeing your feed the very compressed to your presentation.
我们要你做的是把你手上的记录通读一遍这样人们就会遇到和你记录气体质量一样的问题 What we will ask you to do is to read through it in your hand recorded so people will have the same present issue did with the quality of your recording of gases,
所以电影有点有点像素化 so cinema is a bit is a bit pixelated.
所以它是一个独行侠吗 So is it a loner?
我想知道 I wonder what,
先生 sir,
别担心 don't worry.
去吧 Go ahead,
我觉得你没有分享真实的屏幕 I think you didn't share the actual screen.
好吧 Well,
我通过obeah分享它 I'm sharing it through obeah,
我们来看看 so let's see as a looker.
看上去很粗略 Look very sketchy.
别担心 Don't worry,
如果你是用苏格兰皇家银行录制的 那么你就会录下来 do your presentation then you will record it if you are recording with RBS,
然后我们和大家分享这个故事 and then we share this one with everybody after the fact Kill,
问题问题 Gotcha gotcha.
好了 So there you are alright,
这看起来好一点了 很完美 So is that does that look a little bit better yet that's perfect.
好了 Alright,
好了 alright,
为什么道歉 why apologized?
我从来没有 I've never,
我必须在这里知道 I've actually got to know right here.
我从没做过现场培训 I've never done a live training,
所以你知道 so you know,
这是你学对的一件事 it's one of the things you learn right,
所以你在那里学习 so you're learning as you go there.
你自己去吧 You go yourself all right.
所以这个外观的主要DNA So so the main DNA of the look,
就像 like,
他说这是关于拇指模仿的 he said It revolves around thummim emulation,
它围绕着我在这里做的分色 然后从这里开始 and it revolves around the color separation that that I did here and then from there you go on into kind of.
我们有 we've got,
我可以在这个区域做平衡然后平行节点我做了很多我的敏锐和窗口之类的事情 I can kind of do balance in this area and then the parallel nodes where I do a lot of my a lot of my keen and windows and things like that,
我这么做是有原因的 and I do that for a specific reason.
所以我想如果我把所有东西都说出来可能会有帮助 And so I thought that might be helpful if I break everything out.
与此同时 In parallel,
指出 Notes,
我知道这是我稍后要排队看到的东西所以在我所有的串行节点上 I know that this is the stuff that I have to queue see later right so so on all of my serial nodes,
我在做最基本的栗子 I'm doing my primary chestnuts,
但在平行 but in parallel,
节点是我做一些windows键的地方 node is where I'm doing like some windows keys,
等 etc.
所以这样 So that way,
我知道当我完成这个项目的时候我想去检查一下 I know that when I am done with the project and I want to go check,
嘿 Hey,
我的Windows是否被正确地跟踪 或者我的钥匙是否抓取了什么东西 are my windows tracked properly or my keys grabbing something?
我不想那样 I didn't want that.
我知道我可以只看垂直的堆叠 I know that I can look at just the vertical stacks,
这样我就可以在以后的日子里重新检查自己 and that's where that's where I can decant a double check myself and for the day in the future.
当我有一个助理或类似的人 when I have an assistant or someone like that,
他们会去那里看 they'll be able to kind of kind of look there.
比如 So some of the things like,
例如 for example,
只是为了提高效果 that I did on the shot just to kind of improve it.
有一点 a little bit was.
我们的车有一个小窗口 We've got a little window going on the car there,
这就是我要讲的 and this is something that I'm going to kind of kind of.
回到这个概念 Go back to this this concept.
然后我们一遍又一遍地回顾 Then we go back to over and over again,
因为这是我一直在想的事情 because this is something that I think about all the time,
我们想让观众往哪个方向看 Which is where do we want the viewer to look right?
这就是我在评分的时候一直在想的因为他的颜色当我们坐在这里看一个镜头时 This is what I am thinking the whole time that I'm grading because his color as we sit here on a single shot,
我们看看画面里发生的一切 and we look at all of the stuff going on in the frame.
但事实是 观众只有几秒钟的时间来吸收它 But the reality is that that viewers have only a couple seconds to actually absorb it.
所以当我问自己 So when I'm always asking myself as wares,
他们应该看哪里 我能帮他们什么忙 where are they supposed to look and how can I help them Look there,
所以你知道 这是一种设置窗口的想法 so you know that's kind of the idea of putting a window there.
然后 Then,
再一次 once again,
考虑到中间这些图像的权重 kind of considering that the weight of the images in the middle here,
我你知道 I'm you know,
在这里做一个小插图 让我们回到这个特殊案例中 kind of doing a vignette here to kind of bring us all back into the image we had in this particular case,
这是他让我做的事 this is something that the deep he asked me to do.
我们这边的人比较聪明 We were a little bit bright on this side from you know,
从那里的光 from the light there,
所以我把它推倒了 and so I knocked it down.
为什么 Why,
对吧 right?
再一次 and once again,
我们为什么要拆掉它 Why do we knock it down?
是因为你的眼睛会被图像中最亮的区域吸引 is because your eyes drawn to the brightest area of the image,
所以如果有人想马上看这张照片 And so if someone is trying to read this shot immediately,
我想让他们看看车 I want them looking at the car.
我想让他们看看 I want them looking at the,
你知道的 you know,
在整个环境的最后 at the end of the whole environment,
为了不被右图中最亮的点吸引 not to be immediately drawn to the brightest spot in the image right,
这里还有一些微调的东西 so a couple other little fine tune things here.
我把起重机的亮度调高了 I kind of pulled up the the brightness of the crane there,
然后想象他们在哪里被看到 and then a kind of imagined right where they were seen or seen.
月光穿过了这里的迷雾 Moonlight kind of going through this sort of fog here,
所以我用钥匙 so I keyed it.
使用温度 把它推过去 然后这里的另一个窗口很松很软 Use temperature and tend to kind of push it through and then another another window here very loose and soft.
让你的注意力集中起来 the kind of just bring your to kind of bring you or your focus,
还有一些其他的事情 and right so a couple other things,
这是我一直在做的事情 and this is stuff that I do all the times the patch replace her,
所以他们想让我干掉那个人 so they wanted me to take the person out.
啊 Ah,
那个时候碰巧坐在火车上操纵火车 who happened to be sitting in operating the the train at that time,
所以我把他干掉了 so I took him out,
然后我也去掉了这个标志 我做了一个彩色生成器 and then I also took off the logo there I took that off by building a colored generator,
在上面放一个简单的窗口 Putting a simple window on it,
把窗户装饰一下 然后用一种很好的方式把它混合起来 feathering the window and kind of just blending it in a nice way.
所以我提出这个问题是因为我认为这很重要 So then I bring that up because I think that's an important thing.
我知道汤姆说过打电话 I know Tom talked about call.
你知道他只使用了你所知道的可能性和解决方法的百分之十 You know that he uses only ten per cent of the you know of of what's possible and resolve,
你知道 and you know,
我试着大量使用它 因为并不是我做的每一件事 I try to use a lot of it just because not everything I do has been,
你知道的 You know,
经历了很多我必须要做的事情 has gone through the effects I have to do a lot of have those sort of things,
所以我鼓励你们都去了解PatrickPlacer以及类似的事情 这样当客户要求你们做一件小事时 比如 so I would encourage you all to really kind of get to know Patrick Placer and things like that so you can be able to when the client asks you to do a little thing like,
嘿 Hey,
你能坐拉戈阿吗 can you take that Lagoa?
你有多种工具 You have multiple tools,
听你差遣 kind of at your at your disposal,
所以从这里继续同样的想法在堆栈中继续你知道的 so kind of moving on from there same same idea and here in the stack and continuing the kind of you know,
使人们的焦点 bring people's focus.
在这个故事里我想要的位置 Where I wanted to be in this case for the story.
他试图发动他的车 但他的车没电了 因为它的电池自己没电了 He's trying to start his car and his car is dead because its battery has died right itself,
这里有个小窗口 so we got a little window there.
我再次在图像的这些区域添加了一些很酷的色调 I pushed a little bit of cool tones into those areas of the image once again.
为什么 Why?
因为我想要创造最大的颜色对比有点开玩笑的意思 Because I'm trying to create maximum color contrast right is kind of tongue in cheek.
这很有趣 It's fun.
它是蓝绿色和橙色的 It's teal and orange,
哪一种尝试去再一次摧毁这个区域 which kind of kind of try to go for that kind of knocking down this area once again,
因为我想把注意力集中在他的手上 而不是故事本身 because I'm trying to bring focus to his hand and kind of thin in the story there.
发生了什么 What's in what's happening?
然后我们第一次我们第一次看到布鲁斯 Then We got our first our first view of Bruce.
这里我们再讲几遍 Here we go through several again,
只是为了增加颜色对比和那边的挡风玻璃 just kind of adding color contrast and the windshield over there,
让建筑区域的颜色和之前的照片更加匹配 kind of bringing the color of the the construction area back into more matched as previous shot,
因为那是他要求我做的事 because that was something that the the deep he had asked me to do.
他其实并不喜欢泥土的颜色 He had not really liked the colour of of the dirt;
有一种更多的稻草 there was a kind of more straw,
如此软弱和律师 so weak and an attorney,
略带红色 a little more reddish,
红棕色 reddish brown there.
这就是我们在基诺沙所做的事情 So that's something that we kind of did did did throughout Kenosha.
布莱恩 Brian,
你能再快速解释一遍吗 can you quickly explain again?
不是三个 not three,
只是因为之前我们看不清它是什么 just because before we couldn't quite see what it was.
哦 Oh,
哦 这是节点3 gosh and node three out this one.
这是 This is,
看来我已经绕过它了 and it looks like I may have bypassed it.
这是我在3d运气创造者中建立的用于做分离颜色的蓝绿色 This was the lot that I built in three D luck creator for doing color separation teal,
一个橙色的推动 an orange pushing.
你可以看到它把颜色转换成更多的中性值 you can see it's pushing color casts into more of the neutral values,
这就是那个特殊的例子 so that was that particular one.
你们也可以看到 and as you can see as well,
我我没有把这些都用上 I'm I'm not using all of that.
我只使用了其中的一部分 I'm using just some of it.
我用了lumaqi I'm using a luma qi,
让它停止 所以它不是 the kind of knock it off so that it's not,
你知道的 you know,
可能是我的阴影太模糊了 may be contaminating my shadows a little bit too much.
就是这样 So so so there is that.
我已经向前看了 I'm kind of moving on.
你 you.
他想把车发动起来 see he's trying to get his car started,
但是天啊 他做不到 but geez he's not able to,
然后我们去洗澡这是我最喜欢的照片之一 and then we get into this shower is one of my favorite shots.
你知道这首曲子 you know of the of the piece,
这是沃尔特讲过的一个例子 and this is an example is something that Walter's talked,
谈了很多 and talked about a lot.
我喜欢 星球大战沃尔特故事 I love Walter Story about Star Wars,
他是如何创造出一个完整的商店仅仅通过一个打印机的视角他去掉了红色或类似的东西 how he was able to create a whole shop by just doing one printer point of view of red he took out or something like that,
整张照片就是这样 and then that was it for the entire shot.
这就是其中一家商店 And this is one of those shops.
这让我想起了 That kind of reminds me of that,
因为你可以看到这个镜头是什么样的以及它在特效完成后会变成什么样 because you can see what the shot was and then what it actually became once the effects was done with it.
在这种情况下 and in this case,
这款产品的视觉特效是由一家叫做Goesto的公司制作的 the vfx for this product was done by a company called Goes to the effects they did a beautiful job.
我得到了5KX的logC I got all this stuff back as five K X ours in log C,
所以和他们一起工作真的很开心他们最终完成了一份非常漂亮的工作 so it was really nice to work with in just what a real wrote really beautiful job that they ended up doing.
所以你知道 so you know,
当我们再次分解这个点时 As we kind of break down this spot again,
我们打开了一些基本节点 we kind of turn on some of our base nodes.
这里我们将建立一个噪音减少和一些平衡 Here we'll build a noise reductions and such some of the balancing,
所以你知道我们不能开始达到平衡 so you know we can't is starting to get to where the balance was,
但当我开始做的时候 but then when I started to do was,
你知道我们又开始建造了吗 you know we start to build once again?
我们在这个特定的情况下塑造了光线 We're kind of shaping the light in this particular case,
对的 right,
我有一堆把这些都关掉 这样我们就可以一个一个地看一遍 so I've got a bunch of just going kind of turn these off so we can kind of go through them one by one,
你可以看到我在我的网站上所做的努力 把这些都抓取下来 然后把它们关掉 and you can kind of see the sort of shaping that I try to do my websites just grab all these and turn them off.
所以我们已经轮流了 So we've had kind of turn,
我们开始看到我在做什么 and we begin to see what I'm doing a little bit,
两边的颜色有点深 and we got a little dark on sides.
我们把葡萄园拉向中心 We pulled the vineyard in towards the center.
这只眼睛看起来像是我把天空从绿色调到了蓝色 This one eye looks like I had taken the sky pushed a little bit more blue into the sky rather than green.
我们再来看看还有什么 Let's see what else here a couple more,
我想我们在边上弄得有点暗的地方 I think areas that we're getting a little dark on the sides,
你的意思是你又明白我的意思了吗 So you mean you kind of get the idea once again?
我们在找什么 Where are we looking?
我们看着他走在街上 We're looking at him walking down the street,
所以我们又把他拉了出来 so we kind of pull him out a little bit again.
我做了几个图层 因为我们开始在角落里变暗 I did a couple of layers just because we started to get dark there on the corners,
所以你知道 so you know,
我有点胸部 I'm kind of chest.
只是慢慢地 just slowly,
有点像是对图像进行修饰 然后决定我们想看的地方 kind of finessing the image and deciding where where we want to look.
这是另一个窗口 So here's another window right here.
这是我们和布鲁斯一起观察的地方 This is along with Bruce where we kind of want to be looking,
所以我就用了一些温度和光线来推动你知道的更多的暖色调进入那个区域 and so I just use temperature and tent in a little glow just to push you know a little bit kind of more warm tones into that area.
这个地方在街上有点褪色 This particular spot was a little washed out on the street,
所以我就好像是穿过那个格子 然后大概知道了那个镜头是在哪里拍的 以及我们是在哪里拍的 so I kind of went back through that cell and kind of get an idea of where that shot was and where we took it.
这里有很多颜色 We've got a lot of color kind of going all over the place,
这就是我们的想法 and that was kind of kind of the the idea there.
所以我们的下一个镜头是布鲁斯出现在场景里 so we get our next shot of Bruce kind of in the scene.
我在这里没做太多 I didn't do as much here.
通过一些皮肤的色调 因为有时候光线可能会让皮肤的色调有点太多 A little bit of passing some skin tones through the lot because sometimes the light would maybe put skin tones a little bit too much.
也许他们不想这样 Maybe they didn't want that.
我们会再讲一遍 and we're going to kind of go through that a little more.
你知道的 You know,
这显然不是你能在大电影假说和我做过的特性上做到的 this is not something obviously that you can do on a big feature film hypothesis and the features I've done.
我不能花哪怕一小部分时间 I can't spend even a fraction of this amount of time,
但因为每个镜头都是独一无二的 都是独立的 but because each shot is kind of unique and stands on its own,
你可以在上面多花点时间 you can spend a little bit more time on it.
我知道你们曾经有一个关于你们正在做的小事情的问题 So I know you ever have a quick question of all this little thing that you are doing.
你和客户有互动吗 或者很多都是基于经验的 Are you interact with the client or a lot of those are based on experience.
我知道我得去看看 I know I need to look there,
你知道的 you know,
在这个项目上 on this particular project I was,
这在大流行期间是正确的 this was kind of right during the pandemic,
所以在这过程中 so like kind of during the thee,
这是一个非常困难的部分 a really kind of difficult part of it.
所以你知道我做了 so you know I did.
我们有流盒 We do have stream box.
为什么要生活品位和复习这些东西 Why live grade and go over a lot of those things.
但你知道 But you know,
我很幸运 因为我知道这个项目要来了 I was lucky enough that that I knew this project was coming.
我要求把硬盘提前送来 I had asked for the hard drive to come early,
所以我有机会在他们来之前把这些照片放进去 so I had a chance to noodle with a lot of these shots before they came.
现在 Now.
所以你知道 So so you know,
但确实两者都有一点 真正的问题是 but there is definitely a little bit of both and what was really off about this,
如你所知 as you know,
对于一个如此重大的项目 for a project of this magnitude that that they had very,
很少的反馈 really very little feedback,
他们基本上就是让我们让我们顺其自然 and they largely just kind of let us let us go with it,
这种忏悔真的很酷 which was kind of penitence really cool,
所以在这一点上 so so at this point,
这是汉娜的下一个镜头 tis Hannah moving on to two to the next shot here.
所以在这个场景中他看到了西奥 So here we're in a scene where he sees Theo,
如果你看过这种死硬的电影 which if you've ever seen the diehard movies on this kind of,
他是坏人 he's the bad guy.
所以他们想在这里做的是他们想引入一种像这样的红色作为一种象征 So what they wanted to do here was they wanted to introduce a kind of red as this as kind of a symbol of you know,
这是这个坏家伙 here's here's the bad guy right so,
这是 and it was.
这是有趣的 It was interesting.
这是一种你赢了也输了的事情 It's one of those things where you win some battles and you lose some battles and you know,
变红不一定是我想做的事 Going red was not necessarily something that I wanted to do,
因为如果你看一下这个点的其余部分 because if you look at the palette of the rest of the of the spot,
它不去那里 it doesn't go there,
但这就是他们想要的 but that's kind of what they wanted,
所以我不得不往那个方向走 so I had to kind of go in that direction.
当我在这里点击的时候 So as I'm looking here and I'm clicking around,
我已经冻结了我的系统 I have managed to freeze my system.
看起来我要退出 然后重新开始 It looks like so I am going to quit and restart.
快速解决这个问题 Resolve real quick here,
这种事在他刚开始的时候时有发生 which happens from time to time while it was over his start.
你有多少时间来完成这个项目 In how much time did you have for the project for the project?
让我们看看 Let's see,
我想我可能有 I think I had maybe.
三天 Three days total,
但我在这上面花了更多的时间 but I was able to spend a little bit more time on it than that you know,
我能在一些视觉特效板进来之前给它们分级 I was able to kind of grade some of the vfx plates before they came in,
诸如此类的事情 and things like that,
所以你知道 so you know,
我本可以做得更快 I could have done it faster,
但这次很特别 but this was kind of a special one,
所以我想多花点时间讲一下 so I wanted to take a little bit more time on itself.
我很幸运 我觉得我比很多人拥有更多的时间 I am very lucky that I feel like I get a little more time than than a lot of people do so,
汤姆 Tom,
是的 so yeah.
当你打电话给她 深入那些黑人 When you call her and you go deep in those blacks,
你还活着吗 do you lie live?
你喜欢留下一点污点还是只喜欢黑色 Do you like to leave a little bit of tainting or you like just black,
干净 clean,
中性的 neutral,
几乎是墨黑的汪汪叫 almost inky black Yap Yap.
所以我可以讲很长时间 So I could talk about this for a long time,
但我想我花在黑人身上的时间可能比其他任何事情都多 but I think I spend more time on blacks than probably anything else,
我认为这很大程度上取决于每个项目 对吧 and I think a lot of it is dependent on each project right?
我觉得有时候当你是黑人的时候 I think that sometimes when you're black goes,
你知道的 you know,
从头到尾都是彩色的 is fully tinted all the way to the bottom.
我觉得这是一种很好的运气 I think that can be a really beautiful luck,
但我觉得干净的黑色很好 因为我觉得干净 but I think clean black can be really nice to because I think you know clean,
纯洁 pure,
视觉上是黑色和纯白色 black and pure white visually,
我一直觉得它是你眼睛的支柱 I've always felt like gives you an anchor for your eye.
如果你的眼睛知道什么是白色 if your eye knows what white is,
我觉得真正的黑色给了你很大的回旋余地 让你在任何事情上都能随心所欲地推动外观 因为我在这个项目中有一个定位 and what true black is that I feel like that gives you a lot of leeway in everything in between to really push the look as far as hard as you want it because you're I kind of has an anchor for where to go in this particular project.
我一直把黑人保持得很干净 I kept blacks pretty clean throughout,
但我爱不干净 But I love non clean.
我也不太喜欢干净的白色 Black's I love not clean whites very much too,
所以我认为这很大程度上取决于项目 因为我想说的是 我想成为公司 so I think a lot of it is project dependent because I was trying to say I was trying to go company.
三部 LaHa 大片 three blockbuster La Ha right,
所以你知道 so so you know,
所以我想我懂了 so that was kind of so so I think I've got it.
也许在最下面有一些织布机和树液 Maybe a little bit of loom versus sap here at the very bottom,
如果我需要清理一下 and if I needed to kind of clean it up,
我做到了 I did.
但无论如何 But but anyway,
所以再一次回顾这些照片 so kind of so once again kind of going back through these shots.
你可以看到我把红色的部分往里推 Here you can see I'm pushing the reds in,
但是 but then,
但我也通过这些窗户引入了对比色 but then I'm also bringing the contrasting colors in through these windows,
所以这是一系列外部节点再次尝试我们尝试推动颜色 so it's a series of outside nodes once again trying to just we're trying to push color.
对比Max只是为了好玩 Contrast the Max just for the fun you,
不是开玩笑 no tongue in cheek,
这是一个自然的地方 kind of nature nature of the spot.
啊 Ah,
我这里还有更多 I've got more going on here.
我们再来看一遍 Let's see kind of passing through once again.
一些肤色通过他们 Some skin tones passing them through the lot,
所以你知道 so you know,
他一点运气都没有 he doesn't kind of luck.
下面超级脆 Super crunchy down there,
所以通过这个场景 他转过身 布鲁斯转过身 So kind of get through that scene and such he turns round Bruce turns round,
他看到了所有的坏人 he sees all all the bad guys,
他又被放走了 and he's let once again.
我们用红色来表示你会觉得这是危险的象征 We kind of this red color to going to give you this idea that you'll read a sort of the symbol of danger,
但就像集 but like set,
只读只存在于项目的一小部分 the read only exists in the small part of the of the project,
我并不想要 which I didn't necessarily want,
但难免有得有失 but you win some and you lose some.
所以我失去了这个 And so I lost that one.
但这一切都很好 But it's it's it's all good,
所以从他们的笑声中 so from their kind of gives a chuckle,
他进入了商店的场景 and he's into the into the store scene,
这是一个 and this was one.
这个场景可能是我做得最努力的一个因为我们花了整段时间 This was a scene that that was that was the one I probably worked on the hardest because we spend this entire spot.
如果我们回到这里的灯箱我们把整个点都放在黑暗中一直都是在黑暗中 If we go back to the light box here we spend this entire spot in the dark right were always in the dark,
所以我一直在努力思考 so I was trying to think really hard about.
我该怎么保持 how would I keep?
你知道的 You know,
保持这种轰动一时的形象 keep this sort of blockbuster look going,
但是记住 but yet remember,
这仍然是一个商业广告商店仍然应该看起来很好 this is still a commercial the store still supposed to look good,
但我们怎么能 but how can we,
你知道吗 you know?
仍然保持一种程式化的大片 still keep it kind of stylized blockbusters and things.
这就是我在这里做的一些分析 So you know that's where I kind of break down a little bit of of what I did here.
这是我可以用力击球的地方 and this is where I can have pushed these shots kind of pretty hard.
这就是我们的英雄布鲁斯 so this is kind of our hero with Bruce here,
如果你知道 and if you know,
当我把它建起来的时候 as I kind of build some of this out,
你可以看到它最初的位置 you know you can kind of see where it was originally.
让我们看看我是否有离线在线 And let's see if I have the offline online or not,
但是这是线下的 but so so there's the offline right,
所以这就是这就是他们的位置 so that's that's kind of where they were,
我想让它闻到我们的味道 and I wanted it to smell us,
不是我想要的调色板 not quite in the palette that I wanted,
所以他们发生的太过稀少或者是治疗中的参考我真的想给你们看 and so they're happened too thin or a reference in the treatment which I really wanted to show you guys.
不幸的是 Unfortunately,
我把它弄丢了 I lost it at some point.
但我看到有个荧光灯穿在身上 But there is a reference where I saw a fluorescent lighting wear.
荧光灯真的可以把这个很重的颜色投 Fluorescent lighting really can take this really heavy color casts.
我在治疗中看到了这一点 我很喜欢 I saw that in the treatment and I loved it,
我想 and I thought well,
如果我们使用更多的这种暖绿色调 what if we went a little bit more of kind of this of these warm green tones,
这就是我最后所做的 so that's kind of what I ended up doing it.
所以当我们转向的时候 So as we kind of turn,
这些胳膊都被贝丝咬了 all this arm here bit by Beth.
再一次 And once again,
如果你做了100个左右的项目已经很长时间了 it's been a long time if you have done one hundred projects or so,
因为这个 since this.
因为他的特殊的 Since his particular ones,
我不记得我做过的每件事 I don't remember everything that I did,
但对我来说真正的关键是这个结点 but the real key here to me is this node right here,
如果我把这个关掉 and this is where if I turn this off,
你可以看到 我按照我想要的方式创建了这个外观 you can see I kind of I built the look in such a way that I got the background where I wanted it to be,
我百分之百同意这个观点 你首先要为肤色工作 and I agree one hundred per cent with this idea that you work for skin tones first,
然后你建立了运气 and then you build the luck,
我喜欢这条规则 即使它对我不起作用 and I love that rule right into the point where the rule didn't work for me,
我想改变它 and I wanted to change it.
所以我用了相反的方法 so I did at kind of the opposite way,
我想说的是 and I would necessarily suggests that.
但当你需要的时候 but when you need to,
你可以尝试一些不同的东西 you can kind of try something different.
所以我用了一个键来打开他的动图 So I ended up using a key here to kind of pull his GIF.
你可以顺着我的思路从最基本的你知道的 从最基本的日志中提取他的肤色 You can follow my chain here and pull in his skin tone from just the basic you know from the basic logs?
C 这是一个层节点 C and I'm routing that this is a layer node,
我要把它传送到整个停车场 and I'm routing that over the over over the lot,
在这里 我还把温度和颜色都调了一下 这样就能稍微增加一点暖绿色的色调 And here I've also pushed temperature and tint in the lot as well to kind of give a little bit of that the warm green tones there,
我认为另一件事 and I think the other thing that really,
我认为 I think,
这张照片很有帮助 kind of helped this shot was,
我在这里做了很多工作 因为这是他的肤色层 I did a bunch of work here since since this is his skin tone layer,
我在增加磨刀的权利 I'm piling on sharpening rights.
我们有很多锋利的东西 We got a whole bunch of sharpening,
我推 I'm pushing,
它在哪里 所以我要让它更饱满一些 我也得到了一些中间色调的细节 and where is it so I'm saturating him a little bit more and I've got some mid tone detail as well.
在这里我相信 Here I believe,
是的 Yeah,
所以我们推了中间色调的细节 so we pushed mid tone detail.
所以如果你打开又关闭它 So if you turn it on and off,
你可以看到 you can see.
我们不仅是通过正常的肤色 也有点锐化 使它看起来真实 Not only are we passing through normal skin tones were also kind of sharpening up and making it look real.
Grady等待他 Grady awaiting him,
出汗的 look sweaty,
我希望他这么做 I wanted him to,
你知道的 You know,
看起来他脸上有他们的东西 look like their stuff on his face,
你知道所有这些好东西 然后卖掉它们 and you know all that kind of good stuff and then sell them.
我做的另一件事 The other thing I did,
这是我在叙事作品中经常做的事情 which is this is something I do a lot in sort of narrative work,
这是一个老把戏 which is an old trick.
但如果只在Y曲线上做一个小突起总是有帮助的 But it's always helpful is to do a little bump in the Y only curve here right.
所以我不是在YRG中做曲线调整 so so I'm not doing a curve adjustment in Y R G,
B B,
我只在亮度通道中做 I'm doing it in just the luminance channel.
当我上下滑动的时候 And as I kind of slide that up and down,
你可以单独看到一点 you can see just that one bit alone,
只是增加了更多的砂砾和纹理 Just kind of adds a whole lot of more grit and texture.
有趣的是 如何使用为什么只有或只有亮度曲线和亮度 It's funny how using why only or luminance only curves and luminance.
只有调整你的基本元素 以一种有机的方式显示纹理 甚至有一点不同的锐化在中城的细节 only adjustments in your primaries kind of bring out texture in an organic way that even a little bit different than sharpening in Midtown detail.
有时你甚至不需要旋转这些字母就能得到你想要的所有粗磨 Sometimes you can get all the gritty sharpening want without even having to twirl those letters,
这是一种很好的方法 which is a really nice way of doing it.
从那以后 你们已经看到了很多东西 So so from there there was a lot of kind of what you've seen already,
继续塑造画面 把注意力集中在布鲁斯身上 which is continuing to shape the frame to bring your you know your focus in on Bruce.
所以我在这里建了很多不同的窗户 So I kind of built a whole bunch of different windows here to kind of you know,
嘿 Hey,
霍华德 Howard,
不过 though,
光线是如何照射下来的 how would the light be coming down and spelling?
你知道背景里的东西 You know on the on the stuff in the background,
我把它拿出来 I kind of lift it out,
你知道这边 我们有 you know the side here and such we've got you know,
这个小插曲能让你了解他 kind of this little vignette to just bring you into him.
我们已经爱上他了 We've got loving yet just on him,
还有你那柔软的形状 只是想把你带回来 as well as thy soft soft shaped there just to kind of bring you back.
客栈 Inn.
当我讲到其他的这些时 And as I go through some of these other ones here,
我做了什么 what did I do?
让我们看看 这是一小块脸 Let's see so here is just a little bit of face,
细化 refinement,
如果你看着他的眼睛 where if you look at his eyes,
你可以看到 把这个眼圈画出来 让他的眼睛变得更锐利我们看到的是布鲁斯·赖特的脸 you can see just bringing this eyelike out and sharpen his eyes a little bit writes where we're looking at looking right of Bruce Wright at his face.
这是另一种乐趣 and then this was another fun.
当这里只有一个简单的亮度键 When here just a simple luminance key,
你可以看到它的拼写 它有点像背景 and you can see its spelling out and it's getting a little bit of the background to,
对此我并不十分担心 and I'm not terribly worried about that,
但是你可以再次看到中间色调的细节 but you can see just once again mid tone detail.
我在磨刀 只是为了让它看起来像他的衬衫你知道就像他被拧过一样 对吧 I'm sharpening just to make it look like his shirt is you know like he's been through the wringer right?
我的意思是 I mean,
也许他的 maybe he's.
他打了其中几个手下 He's beat up some of these henchmen.
他有点 He's kind of you know,
经历了一场战斗 gone through a fight,
所以我只是想把他的那部分你知道他的服装 so I just wanted to kind of grid up that that part of his you know of his of his costume there,
所以我所以这基本上就是布鲁斯所有这些倒转镜头的样子 so I'm so that was largely kind of the look for all of these reverse shots of Bruce.
然后我做了一件和我们的英雄很相似的事 Then I ended up doing something very similar to our kind of hero here.
再一次 Once again,
你知道的 you know,
如果我们通过 if we kind of go through,
你可以看到所有不同的层来写 You can see all the different layers to kind of write.
背景有点暗了 We're going a little dark in the background.
我想让人们看到 I want people to look at.
电池本身 The battery itself,
写在电池里 writes on kind of pop in the battery.
我想提一下赛克斯 I'm kind of lifting that Sikes,
我觉得那边有点暗 I felt we got a little dark over there.
我在旋转色温这样你们就知道我们有一些更好的匹配你们可以看到 I am kind of twirling color temperature so that you know we're kind of have a little bit of a better match that you can see.
他之前的这一枪 His hit in this in his previous shot,
他的衬衫有点暖和 his shirts kind of warm.
所以我想 And so I kind of wanted to.
你知道的 You know,
确保这种冲击持续下去用简单简单的软窗之类的东西 Make sure that that kind of continued on into this shock with just kind of simple simple soft windows and things like that.
如果你认为我们是 if you want to think we are,
你的时间到了 we are up with your time.
还有什么最后的镜头要给我们看吗 Is there any last shots you want to show us?
肯定的是 Sure,
绝对如此 absolutely so.
你知道 我们最终做了类似的事情通过传递肤色等级的想法 you know we kind of ended up doing the similar thing throughout kind of this idea of passing through skin tones ranks.
如果你看线下 So if you look at the offline,
你可以看到我们几乎是一个主导的颜色 you can see that where we were pretty much a dominant colour cast.
但是我在讲剩下的部分的时候会讲到这些 But I'm passing those through as we kind of go through the rest of the piece.
你会看到很多类似的东西 you're going to see a lot of similar things kind of throughout on.
这里有一些通过传真拍摄的非常漂亮的照片这是之前所有的盘子 There's some really beautiful via fax shots in here and kind of show you previously that's all the plate was,
那里什么都没有 他们就建了 there was nothing there and they built it.
同时 Also,
很好的东西 really nice stuff,
你知道的 you know,
也很相似 kind of similar as well.
整个建筑的窗户最大的色彩对比 Throughout maximum color contrast building in windows,
塑造光继续 shaping the light continuing to.
啊 Ah,
你知道的 you know,
尽量多看一看尽可能多看一些视窗 try to give it as big of a look at you know as as as you could get a lot of kind of windows here on.
这是背景中的一些光线 It's you know certain lights in the background and such to to really just kind of you know,
让它看起来很酷 并尽可能对比易眼和东西 make it is cool and contrast yeeyan and stuff as possible.
也许我要在这里打最后一枪 Maybe the one last shot I'll go through here,
就在最后 which is right at the end.
这就是一个例子 This is an example of it.
枪 Gun.
这是最后一个大爆炸镜头 And so this is the final big explosion shot,
你知道 and you know,
我想这张照片带给我最大的启示就是有时候你得知道什么时候该放手 让事情变得简单 and I guess maybe my biggest take away from this particular shot was you know sometimes you've got to know when to just let things go and let them be simple.
在这个例子中 So in this one,
我没有使用我的电影模拟 只是做了一些有趣的事情 你知道的 对爆炸 这样我没有 I didn't use my film emulation lot at all was doing some kind of funky things to the you know to the to the explosions and such that I wasn't.
我没有想要的 I didn't want.
所以我用了非常简单的方法 so I ended up just using very simple look over here,
对比和主 contrast and pivot,
这就是我在一个图层节点上使用的全部 所以它完全绕过了电影模拟运气 and that was all I use it on a layer node so it's completely bypassing the film emulation luck.
我只是在研究初级平衡 And I really just worked on primary balance,
为了确保爆炸时的亮点是非常白热的 making sure that the sort of bright spots of the explosion were very white hot,
所以我用了亮度对比饱和度 so I used luminance versus saturation,
就是把这些白热的区域变得更白 the kind of just take those white hot areas and make them make them obviously more more white and such so.
啊 Ah,
这是一种分类 so that's kind of a breakdown,
他们的沃尔特说 their Walter of saying,
你在这儿干什么 What are you here?
这是惊人的 That was amazing.
是的 Yeah,
所以你能不能停止分享 让我们再看一次你的脸 So would you like to just stop the sharing so we can see your face one more time absolutely.
我们到达那里 We're getting there.
哦 Oh,
它做了这件事 it did this thing.
它会自动吗 Were it automatically?
最小化我的窗口 Minimises my window here.
你知道 And you know,
每个人可以花上三分钟 everybody can take up to three minutes,
我们在做这个的时候休息一下 这样我们就可以 break while we were doing this one so we can have a.
但我开始研究地质学 But I started the geologist.
加入我们 让我们留下来 join us and saying to remain us,
吉尔我和你要好好聊一聊 Jill me and you will do a nice chat.
北欧听起来不错 Nordic sounds good.
试着换一下我的摄像头 Try to switch my webcam.
好吧 Well,
我不知道该怎么离开这里 not quite sure how to get out of here.
我年纪大了 也有了 I'm older and have them.
让我让我看看我能不能分享一下我的屏幕 Let me let me see if I can share my screen for one second.
玛丽亚 停船 Maria and stop ship,
完美的腹泻 perfect diarrhoea,
莎拉 牦牛 Sarah Yak,
我很抱歉陷在泥里把你踢了出来 how sorry I got stuck in the mud and kick you out.
技术 Technology.
好吧 Okay,
谢谢你 thank you,
布莱恩 Brian,
非常感谢 我很抱歉 thank you very much and I'm sorry.
我们没时间问这么多问题了 We don't have time for many questions.
在大家休息的时候 while everybody take a break.
两三天做一则广告 Two three day for an advertisement piece.
这是典型的吗 还是你只是运气好 Is that typical or you just got lucky.
不 No,
我的意思是它有两分钟长 I mean it was two minutes long,
所以 so,
是的 yeah,
我有点他们有点幸运 I kind of they kind of got lucky.
我的广告通常是半天三十秒 I get the usual half a day for thirty second commercial,
有时我会有一整天的时间 只有两分钟 or sometimes I'll get a whole day for a two minute.
像那样的品牌观察员 Branded spotters of the Like That.
但是是的 But yeah.
等的时候我看看还有没有其他问题 Let me see if there is another question while we wait,
先生 Sir.
你看过很多镜了吗 Do you look a lot of your scopes,
还是你觉得我也在看望远镜 or you just go by feeling I look at scopes too?
我看一下窥镜 看我是否明显地在剪切或挤压 I look at scopes to see if I'm obviously clipping or crushing,
或者如果我要开枪了 or if they're if I'm looking at a shot,
我不知道怎么了 I don't know what's wrong with it.
那我一定要看看我的望远镜 Then I'll definitely look at my scopes.
我经常检查范围 I look at scopes a lot to check for.
很明显颜色在我的 Obviously color casts in my.
你知道中立的 黑人 白人 等等 You know neutrals and blacks and whites and stuff back down.
我可能不像其他人那么擅长观察 I maybe not as much a scope person as everybody else.
我的意思是 I mean,
我 I'm,
我觉得很幸运 我被要求把项目做得很好 I feel very lucky that that I am asked to push projects a lot right.
我是说我不是 I mean I'm not.
我没被要求把这部剧变成原版 I'm not being asked to kind of make this the original show.
什么让所有东西都匹配 What kind of make everything matches?
我没被要求这么做 I'm not asked to do that.
我被要求很努力地推进 I'm asked to push it pretty hard,
所以你知道 so you know,
我是 I am,
我更感兴趣的是你知道的 I am more interested than that you know.
如果它得到了它需要的效果 If it is this kind of got the effect that it needs,
然后示波器是 then then the scopes are,
你知道的 you know,
绝对完美的 absolute perfect.
非常感谢 再给你一分钟break押韵 So thank you very much one more minute break rhyme,
如果你有问题要问布莱恩 and if you have a question for Brian,
我也会去上厕所 I also take a potty break.
创造一个米笑话 Create the Mi jest.
再来看看布莱恩·哈里 Pop back on Brian Harry,
嘿 Hey,
做得很好 do well.
现在想想在那个特别的地方发生的可怕的故障 now thinks for that awesome breakdown on that particular spot.
这里有一些问题 there were some questions here about by passing,
就像当你绕过你的肤色 like when you do skin tones of bypassing your other,
你的其他声音来保持它们 your other tones to keep them,
你知道的 you know,
清洁 clean.
我知道你提到过视效风格的作用就像简单的触碰那样 I know you had mentioned that being like a vfx style works like briefly touch on that.
是的 Yeah,
是的 yes,
所以你知道这不是我一直想要的 so you know that's not something that I wanted to all the time.
这是一种 It's kind of,
这很有必要如果你真的很注重你的肤色如果它们看起来不自然 这是我的 it's necessary if you're really really pushing the look you're going to push your skin tones were they don't look natural right and it's it's my,
我一直在想 如果你能把你的肤色调好 I have always thought that if you can get your skin tones right.
就像我们说过的黑人是干净的白人是干净的 just like we talked about having blacks that are that are clean and whites that are clean.
如果你的肤色在这里 If your skin tones are right there,
整个镜头的定位点 只要你的肤色准确 你就可以用力推镜头 an anchor for the whole shot and you can push the shot pretty hard as long as your skin tones are accurate,
作为人类 我们对肤色有很强的记忆 如果我们记对了 and we just we as people have such a strong memory color for what proper skin tone should be that if we get that right,
我们可以把图像的其他部分使劲推一下 we can push the rest of the image pretty hard.
当我们需要和人们仍然相信它是正确的时候 When we need to and people will still believe it right,
所以 是的 so yeah,
对的 right,
在这个过程中 你提取皮肤 and in that process you extract the skin,
变红 turns red.
你把它们从图像中分离出来 而不是Leah和眼睛 我通常 我经常很严肃 你们可以看到在你们的这两张照片中的一些照片中 我对图像进行了两次正确的分级 赋予了沉重的外观 you separate them from the image than Leah and eye yet and I typically I often grave and you can see in some of this some of the shots in your two where I'm grading the image twice right and grant for heavy look,
然后对肤色进行渐变 and then I'm gradient just for skin tones.
然后我用图层节点把皮肤色调放回到图像的顶部 然后用 And then I'm using layer nodes to put the skin tones back over the top of the image and then using you know,
Rodolfo和Keys之类的来确保这些是非常确定的肤色 Rodolfo and Keys and such to you know to kind of make sure that those are so certain skin tone.
值不是框架中其他看起来有趣的地方 Values aren't somewhere else in the frame that looked funny or something like that,
所以这是它们附近所有容易的东西 so it's all the easy stuff near them,
也许很多 perhaps a lot,
我想我还没进去过 and I guess I'll get go had never entered.
我只是说 谢谢你再一次 你得哈 I was saying just thank you one more time you gotta Ha.
谢谢你 Thank you,
布莱恩 Brian.
珠宝和我们在一起 Jewelry with us.
我你好吗 Am I hi?
你怎么这么高的介绍 How are you good so high introduction?
如何 How to,
吉尔说 say Jill,
世界上最美的颜色之一 one of the best colors in the world.
一个公司工作 work a company,
三辆车提前完成生产工作 three cars ahead of production work,
你知道小丑和很多人 you know Joker and many,
很多其他的电影都不是真的从我第一天拍的时候你就在哥哥的位置上工作 many other movie isn't true that you actually worked on where brother are to the first day I ever made.
我做了 I did,
我其实是那部电影的助理 I was actually the assistant on that movie.
我来自纽约 I came out from New York.
然而 yet.
和助理在一起 And with the assistant,
我一天跑了很多时间去上班 I ran a lot of the day to work.
那是完全不同的作品完全是前沿的作品 It was a totally different works totally leading Edge.
我们不知道是什么 We didn't really know what.
哦 Oh,
如何让它工作 how to make it work,
所以有很多 so a lot of it,
因为没人做过这么大规模的实验 because nobody had ever done it really at that scale.
是的 So yes,
我在那里 I was there.
让我从一个简单的问题开始每个人都有同样的问题 So let me start with a simple question everybody has the same question.
你什么时候开始工作的 When did you start?
但我想稍微改变一下问题因为我很好奇 But I want to slightly change the question because I'm curious about it,
我爸爸是一名消防员 so my dad was a fireman.
我妈妈是个异类 My mom was a foreign matter,
在我十几岁的时候 and after when I was a teenager,
我很崇拜他们 说 I look up to them and say,
我不想这么做 I don't want to do this.
这就是没有 That's just not.
你爸爸是个科学家 Your dad is a scientist.
你有没有想过我会因为好玩而被分配到这个岗位上 Is there a moment that you thought I want to be assigned to it because it's fun?
是的 Yeah,
当然 当然 absolutely while there is definitely,
有很多时候 我实际上是一个画家 和我们自己在意大利的艺术学校生活在玛雅 there are many moments that I'm actually a painter with our own to art school in Italy actually lived in Maya.
是的 Yes,
所以我真的对摄影很有激情 and so I really was so passionate about photography.
我11岁时就开始在自己的暗室里做自己的事来打发时间 I started my own doing for time through my own dark room when I was eleven,
我总是很发达 And I'm so always took developed.
我自己的电影拍摄了我自己的照片 对艺术和摄影充满了热情 My own film took my own pictures was so passionate about art and photography.
这些都是我父亲教我的 My father actually taught me all of that,
我父亲是有机化学家 so my father is an organic chemist,
他教我如何冲洗和打印胶片 and he taught me photography how to develop film and print it,
然后教会了我很多其他的技术知识 现在仍然如此 and then taught me many other technical things along the way still does.
我知道 and I know.
嘿 Hey,
鲍勃 Bob,
你能帮我做个这个小电影的查找表吗 can you make me a lookup table for this little movie?
所以你使用真实的摄影和模具工作的事实表明了这对你成为一名色彩师的个人故事是多么重要 So so so the fact that you actually work with real photography and mould shown how that was important to your personal story to become a colorist.
你知道你是如何把色彩融入其中的 you know how was integrated in the way you do color.
现在 Now.
这仍然是一个很大的部分 因为我总是以一种方式来处理每一部电影或每一个电视节目 我想创建一个调色板 以帮助讲述故事 It still is a huge part of it because I always approach every movie or every TV show in in a way where I want to create a palette that helps tell the story.
所以我非常非常想理解剧本 So I'm very very into understanding the script.
理解情绪 Understanding the emotions,
理解时间周期或使用颜色来帮助讲述故事 understanding the time period or using color to help tell the story.
在不同时期的排名所以我会做很多研究 and in different time periods rank so I will do a lot of research,
因为不同的照片摄影师都有一定的错误 as different images of photographers have certain errors.
我会从不同的地方画出不同画家的图像 从我正在创作的外壳中找到电影的氛围或感觉 I'll do images of different painters from different areas and find a vibe or a feel for for the movie out of the shell that I'm working on,
感觉对的东西 something that feels right.
我和电影摄影师聊过 导演经常谈论这类事情 and I talked to the cinematographers and the director is often about this type of thing,
尤其是在我读了剧本之后 but the seal specifically after I read the script,
我会对他们说 I will come to them and say,
这是这是一些给了我灵感的艺术品 this is this is some of the artwork that inspired me.
当然 Of course,
他们给我发了很多情绪板和各种各样的图片给他们灵感 直到我来回发送这些东西 这样我就能帮助你们知道 它会把我的艺术背景融入其中 they send me a lot of the mood boards and things in all the different images that have inspired them until I kind of to send things back and forth so that I can help you know it's going to spring on the government of my arts background into it.
我想我想 I think I think,
布莱恩 Brian,
尼康相机还在 you still have the Nikon.
属于他的母亲 belong to his mother.
所以我现在看到的一件事 So one thing that I see nowadays,
你知道在Youtube视频中 you know in the Youtube video,
他们告诉你技能本身 they tell you the skill itself.
你知道的 You know.
技术性问题 The technicality.
告诉我它的艺术 Tell me about the art of it,
所以你要做一个造型从刮伤开始导演 so you need to create a look you start with a scrape the director,
一个电话你从那里去哪里基本上从那里 a call where do you go from there from there basically,
在图片中找到一个共同的线索 让他们受到启发 and find a common thread in images that they are inspired by,
然后我看了一些他们在他们的领域里拍摄的图片来解释他们的照明 and then I look at some of the images that they've shot in an interpret their lighting in their field for things.
如果有人带我来 So if somebody who brings me,
我有很多非常非常软的图像 I'm very very a lot of very soft images,
就像软对比 meaning like soft contrast,
他们想要感觉非常自然 and they wanted to feel very natural,
然后我要做的是突出非常细微的肤色 then what I'll do is its focus on bringing out very subtle skin tones,
微妙的颜色 subtle color,
深度 depth right.
你必须能够不让它感觉过程 You have to be able to not have to make it feel process.
我是不是一直在说 关于这类书 Did I always say that on those types of books,
事实上 你不知道我在那里做最好的工作 所以我们知道广告有点不同 因为你知道 分支机构看到了我们 the fact that you don't know I was there at the best job right so we know a commercial is a little bit different because you know the branches saw us.
一个非常程式化的商业特征 A very stylized commercials feature.
更重要的是细节 It's more about subtlety.
是的 Yes,
有趣的是 and the interesting thing is,
我拍很多广告 I do a lot of commercials.
我做过很多电视节目 也做过很多特写 它们都是三个不同的世界 I do a lot of TV and I do a lot of features and they're all three very different worlds.
你是对的 You're right,
这就像当你看一个图像30秒 it's just like when you are watching an image for thirty seconds,
看图像播放30秒 watching images run for thirty seconds,
他们可以 they can be,
你知道的 you know,
他们 they're.
它们是为了吸引你的注意力 所以它们可以更程式化 they're meant to capture your attention right so they can be more stylized,
可以更像罂粟花之类的 that can be more poppy or whatever.
当你去看一场两个或两个半小时的电影 你一直生活在那个世界里 When you go to a two or two and a half hour long movie where you're living in that world for that whole time,
如果你有比罂粟花涅槃更强烈的东西 你可能会精疲力尽 it can be almost exhausting if you have something quite that stronger than that that poppy nirvana,
当一个长功能 在一个长功能上你做那种强登录 when a long feature and on a long feature to you do that kind of strong logon,
你很清楚 它把视觉事实分开 as you know very well that it calls apart visual facts.
如果不总是看起来我的意思是你可以让演员看起来很好 If it doesn't really always look my mean you can always make actors look good.
他从未见过布莱恩 He never saw Brian.
你知道如何调肤色吗 Do you know making a skin tones?
你知道我喜欢的一个锚 You know an anchor which I love,
他说得很对 how he said that that's very true.
但你知道 But you know,
我一直在想办法对付大脑 I'm always finding finding some way to deal with a brain.
艺术 the art.
就像软件一样 So like the software,
看起来更像是长电影 Looks could go more towards a longer movies.
通常情况下 usually,
有些电影拍得不怎么样 some of the movies have done no or not.
软件看起来像约翰·威克不是运气好 Software looks like John wick is not a soft luck right,
但现在我喜欢它 but now I love it.
我喜欢JohnBreak I love John Break,
我看到抛物线 I saw parabola,
不幸的是 unfortunately,
一些 some of it,
我在飞机上看到的 I saw it on a plane,
然后我又看了一遍 因为我没有正确的方式来感谢你的演奏 and then I watched again because there was not the right way to say thank you for playing,
但是是的 but yes,
你应该知道如何称呼颜色的另一种方式 你知道它有很多的能量 抓住整个世界 the color you should know how to call the other way that that you know had a lot of energy to it and hold that whole world.
约翰维克的世界 The John wick world right.
他精力充沛 He has got a lot of energy.
有点像复仇幻想之类的东西 It's kind of like almost that revenge fantasy type of thing,
所以这种颜色对比的使用效果非常好 so that type of use those colours in that contrast worked really well for that,
所以当我在创造一个外观时 and so really when I'm creating a looker,
我为每个shell创建查找表 I create lookup tables for every shell,
我有一些查找表 它使用我的基础 and I have certain lookup tables that it uses my base.
看看这些表 look of tables that are,
你知道的 you know,
我称之为固体 不会破坏任何东西 as I call solid and aren't going to break anything,
然后我用它们做皮肤基底 and then I use those as a skin like base.
然后我会说 and then I'll say,
好吧 OK,
你知道的 you know.
基于我想要得到的感觉 Based off of the feeling that I want to get,
我会用一些图片 开始创建一些不同的查询表 然后做一个实验 看看它是否有那种纤维可以用于这个故事 I'll just play with images and start creating a few different lookup tables and use an experimentation to see if it has that fiber that feel that that would work for for this story,
你知道的 you know,
是积木 are those building blocks,
你在耶拉时间里发展出来的东西 something that you developed through the yarra hour,
就像TomImageScience在公司Three的案例因为现在你工作的公司正在帮助你告诉我更多关于这方面的信息 like in case of Tom Image Science at company Three because at the moment you work for a company that is helping you tell me a little bit more about that.
是的 Yeah,
我基本上 I basically,
那里有一个很大的图书馆 there's quite a big library,
一个公司提供免费和资金支持 你可以做的有趣的事情是查看一些基本的查看表 每个人都可以使用它 a company free and fund the funny thing you can do is go through and look at some of the basic look at tables that are there for everybody to use whatever it be.
电影模拟 Film emulation.
轻快的查询台或阅读 airy lookup tables or read,
或者任何让别人比赛一次的摄像权 or whatever camera right to have others race once,
我也 and I also,
晚上当然没有人 of course have no ones at night.
我听说我爸爸很幸运能有一个不懂颜色科学的人 I heard my dad to make lucky to have somebody that no color science as a bad.
是的 Yes,
我知道 我被宠坏了 我从他身上学到了很多 I know and was so spoilt and I've learned so much from him.
但是是的 But yes,
所以我有几个查询表 我知道这些都是通过图像科学进行的 so I have several lookup tables that I know have been busily vetted through image science,
我经常从事图像科学的工作 and I do work often with image science,
所以有时候我会做出一些效果很好的效果 so sometimes I'll make some kind of look that works really well,
然后我总是把它送到图像科学部 以确保我没有破坏任何东西 确保它仍然是固体的 and then I always send it to image science to make sure that I'm not breaking anything to make sure it's still solid.
那天我发现所有的口味都做对了 And the day I found to make all the different flavors right.
所以他们必须为每码织出一千个网 So they have to make the thousand net for each yard right.
所有的不同 All the different,
不管是特别提款权P3 7还是9 whatever SDR P three seven or nine,
诸如此类 and all that so so.
是的 yes,
它肯定与图像科学密切相关 it definitely work very closely with image science for sure,
因为很多创意都是通过感觉产生的 because there's a lot of the creative that just goes by feel,
有时有人问我 and sometimes people ask me,
在很多情况下 表格的外观取决于经验 How do you make look of tables in a lot of it is experience,
刚刚好 And just right,
正确的外场 getting the right field right.
有时候 调色师真的很难解释如何得到一种外观 因为你并不总是知道这是一种本能 会让人感觉它是如何工作的 Sometimes it's really hard as a colorist to explain how to get a look because you don't always know it's kind of instinctual and would make the feel of of how it works,
就像你在画画什么的时候 just like when you're doing a painting or something,
你知道肯定是有技巧的 you know that there are definitely techniques.
你知道某些艺术家肯定会被某些东西所吸引 There is a definite things that you know certain artists will gravitate towards.
但我真的发现方舟的背景 在摄影和艺术中找到灵感 这真的帮助我与创意人士沟通 but really I found it the Ark background and finding inspiration in photography and art is something that really helps me communicate with the creatives,
因为我们总说一张照片胜过千言万语 and because we always say a picture is worth a thousand words fray.
桑德尔 Sandel,
有人总是会说 somebody can always say,
哦 Oh,
我们想通过传递一个高对比达到我们想要的电影制作人 we want to reach by passing one high contrast where we want it filmmaker.
但如果你只展示正确的图像 But if you just show images that are right,
我想要电影电影对你来说意味着什么 I want a cinematic what the cinematic mean for you,
特别是因为每个人的情况都不一样 specifically because it's different for everybody,
因为如果你从文化上考虑 because if you think about it to culturally,
在世界的不同地方 每个人对事物的看法都不一样 everybody sees things differently to different parts of the world.
有不同的方式 There's different ways,
人 people,
他们在电视上看到的更硬的白点 stiffer white points that they see on TV or different types,
电影院 a cinema,
你知道对你来说什么是正常的 and it's you know what's normal for you.
对其他人来说可能不一样 It may be different for somebody else.
是的 Yes,
你有没有想过 比如 did you happen to call or a piece for for example,
日本 他们已经 Japan and they have,
我知道有一天 I know a day,
例如 for example,
嘿 黄色的肤色 hey yellow skin tone,
所以你会发现自己在适应一种不同的哲学 一种不同的文化 so you find yourself actually adapting to a different philosophy to a different culture.
通过地球日你绝对可以做到 Through the Earth day you do absolutely.
我曾与朴泰桓导演合作过 因为斯托克是韩国人 我也曾与日本电影科学合作过 I've worked with director Park for I did Stoker in that he is Korean and the networks on Japanese commercials and worked with Japanese cinema sciences as well.
它是 And it is.
这是非常不同的文化 it's very specifically different cultures.
看到的 See,
你知道的 you know,
你知道具体 you know specific.
在日本 In Japan,
这是一种不同的审美灰色 it's a different aesthetic gray.
看很多电视 A lot of the TV.
甚至我为日本做的一些商业广告实际上是用九千一千三百来着色的 Even some of the commercials I did for Japan were actually colored it at a nine thousand and one thousand three hundred,
开尔文怀特利 Kelvin Whiteley.
是的 Yeah,
这是一个不同的白点 so it's literally a different white point.
诱惑 Lure,
所以蓝色和粉色真的很流行 so the blues and the pinks really pop.
这种狂喜在那种文化中更令人愉悦 And that's the ecstatic really that that is more pleasing in that culture.
所以是的 and so yeah,
当然 absolutely,
我适应了亚伦的完美形象 在那个世界里闪闪发光 I adapt to that Aaron fine images that just shine in that world for shorts,
在探索过程中增添一些精彩 这真的很有趣 it's actually really fun to add splendor to explore.
啊 Ah,
你知道的 you know,
不只是用一种风格去尝试不同的东西 Not just one style rights to try different things,
它真的很好 it's really well.
现在每个人都是我们想要的 Now everyone's we want.
我只是看了一下这个问题 I just glanced here at the question,
还有一些人喜欢丰田普锐斯 and a couple of people love the Toyota Prius.
你在超级碗上做的 You did for the Super Bowl.
哦 Oh,
是的 yeah,
你能谈谈这一点吗 can you talk a little bit about that?
是的 Yes,
这条线和 that line and a really,
真的 really.
我们把这个造型做得很过火 We push the look quite far for that one,
这是一个非常情绪化的线索 and it's a really emotional cues,
美丽的感觉 sense of the beautiful piece.
所以我们做了很多改进 比如电动窗 And so we did a lot of shaping a lot of shaping with power windows and such,
现在你真的 and you now kept really,
非常丰富的颜色 really rich colors.
很多绿色蔬菜 A lot of greens,
我们使用了很多温暖的光线 我在午餐中玩得很开心 A lot of warm light was used in that and I just had a lot of fun with that lunch.
这其实有点像搞笑 That actually kind of is very similar to funny enough.
我想我用了一个和小丑很相似的查找表 I think I used a one of the lookup tables that it was very similar to Joker,
这是一种非常坚硬的薄膜光 which is a very tough filmic light,
它是青色的 and in its got cyan,
阴影和温暖的亮点就像电影一样 and the shadows and warmer highlights just like film.
让我们做正确的 Let's do right.
这就是电影的质量 So that's the filmic quality,
但我也被允许走得很远 从中得到了很多乐趣 but I really was allowed too to push it pretty far and had a lot of fun with it.
这只是一个无辜的例子 和平是情感的 That just puts innocent example that peace is emotional.
这是一个丰富的 很多没有真正奇妙的图像的方式 And it was a rich and a lot of ways that hadn't really fantastic imagery,
所以它能够保持 and so it was able to hold.
这就像是一种幻想 It was kind of like a fantasy,
像梦一样的东西 a dream type of thing,
它能够容纳所有的颜色能够容纳所有真正丰富的颜色并且真正延伸到我所能达到的极限范围 and it was able to hold all that color is able to hold all that really rich color and and really stretched to that terminal range as much as I could,
这样才能在某种程度上符合这个丰富的故事 and that to be able to really fit that rich story in a way.
现在你喜欢我了 Now you like me.
我们为大电影做特效 We work on big movie with the effects,
他补充说 he added,
可能有两到三家通过工厂的线下渠道为社论服务 probably two or three via factories an offline pipeline for the editorial,
最后他的hdr there is the finishing that his hdr.
如何管理工作流程 How you manage the workflows for how you,
作为一个画家 as a colorist,
帮助制作有一个连贯的世界观 help the production to have a coherent worldview,
一个在意象从开始到交付 an in imagery from the beginning to deliverable.
是的 Yes,
这非常重要 so this is super important.
多年来我学到的一件事是如果我在后期制作的时候 Can one of the things I've learned over the years is that if I come in toward the end of postproduction right,
就好了 it's just OK,
是时候把颜色交给我了 酷 it's time to colour handed over to me cool,
我完全可以那样做 I can totally do it that way.
它的工作原理 it works,
但是 but.
要么找到一些真正的 Finding either finding something that's really,
真正有趣和独特的东西可能会让制片人 编辑或导演感到很不舒服 他们可能已经看了很长时间了 really interesting and unique can be very jarring to the producers or may be peopled editors or the director who had been looking at something for a very long time.
那么好吧 So good right,
我们都遇到过这种情况 We've all dealt with that,
但它看起来很神奇 but it looks amazing,
我觉得他长得不像女人 and I think that this is not a woman whom he looks like,
因为他们就像我说的 because they're so as I call it,
爱闯博客 tempt love Ran blog.
每个人都用这个词 That's the word everybody uses.
只要爱上女人 just fall in love with women,
临时版本 the temporary version,
所以我倾向于提早工作 and so what I tend to do is I work early.
所以当每个人都在做电影的前期制作时 So when everybody is in preproduction on a movie,
我会的 I will,
你看到一些肥沃的芽 You know you see some type of fertile shoot,
一些发型和化妆测试 some hair and makeup tests.
我们将开始讨论大姐讲的故事的外观和感觉我将构建来保存五行表 And so we'll start talking about the look and the feel on the story elder sister is talking about and I'll build to save five rows of tables,
然后带他们去片场做发型测试 and then we'll take them on set for the hair makeup test.
然后可能会有一些人在他们的任务中所有的查找表都没问题但却发现查找表不应该做什么 and then maybe a couple on their tasks where everything will be fine with the lookup table altogether won't find that the lookup table should be doing,
然后发生的是他们可以射击比他们开始射击时 And then what happens is that they can shoot than when they're shooting onset.
当然 他们有一个查找表 可以在相机或其他地方 Of course they have a lookup table that can be in the camera or whatever,
你可以在显示器上看到它 所以你可以透过桌子的外观 and you can actually see it on the monitor so you can actually light through the look of table,
这很重要 which is very important right,
这也是我制作查找表的目的 and that's also what I'm making lookup tables.
我必须非常 I have to be very,
在橡木暴露水平和技术方面都很重要 以确保它不会以任何方式改变或伤害他们在其他暴露条件下的射击 very Congress in oak exposure levels and technical stuff to make sure that it doesn't change or a hurt in any way how they're shooting other exposing.
但好吧 我们一起去找 But so well we'll find that look together.
参考是在摄影和脚本所有有趣的东西 References are in photography and scripted all that fun stuff.
然后我们画出这些字母 And then we'll make those letters.
其中一项就是对于大型电影的规则 One lot for show is is usually the rules specifically for a big movie,
我也试着在电视节目中保持这种方式 and I try to keep it that way for TV shows as well.
因此 他们会拍摄 他们很快就会开始拍摄然后是视觉效果公司的典型列表 然后是首席执行官 And so what happens is they'll shoot they'll soon onset and then that same look of typical list in the visual effects companies and then the Ceos,
当然 of course,
一份颜色决定清单和所有的日常照片一起跟随 a color decision lists follow right along with all shots from dailies.
这个是表格 and that one look at table.
然后基本上 Then basically,
每个人和我一开始监督画廊在一些曲线展示的开始或没有时间做任何 everybody and I initially supervise galleries in the beginning on some of the curve shows or don't have time for whatever a.
确保每个人的想法都一致 Make sure that everybody's on the same page.
等视觉效果开始显现的时候 and then by the time the visual facts get going.
他们有更多的信息 他们对电影会是什么样子有更多的见解 they have more information and they have more of an insight as to what the movie's gonna look like.
这是额外的好处 So that's a bonus,
然后你会看到编辑 导演和其他制片人在看他们以前写过的东西 and then you've got the editor and the director and other producers watching something that they're used to write,
所以当它到达我的时候 so by the time it gets to me.
所有在幕后发生的困难都是事实 剪辑和放映的视觉效果 All the hard stuff that's been going on in the background are the visual of facts and editing and screenings,
做决定 如何裁剪因为有很多时间溢出对于一些热门的编辑来说 他们会根据光线的多少或者他们需要如何与承包商沟通来裁剪 and making decisions and how they cut because a lot of time spills and for some hot editors will cut based on how much light there is or how they need to say that the contractor.
但他们必须看到发生了什么 But they have to see what's going on.
所以如果你让他的内心太黑暗 So if you have gave his inner too dark,
里面可能有一些很美的东西 there might be some really beautiful things in there,
但他们可能看不见 所以如果你有合适的长相 这真的可以帮助你在电影中摇摆 but they may not be seeing so It really can help shake to movie if you have the right look.
或者至少最开始的一个很好的近似是 or at least a good approximation from the very beginning is then,
到最后的时候 by the time it gets to me the very end,
如果我把前面的都做完了 等它来的时候 if I've done everything in the front and by the time it gets to me,
然后我就可以专注于精炼 专注于 then I can just focus on refining and can focus on.
我们知道解决任何问题 We know fixing any problem areas.
如果有的话 if there are any,
然后所有人都在看 and then then really the everybody has been watching.
这是发自内心的感受 It really comes into the deep feeling.
这仍然是他们的电影 It's still their movie,
但比起写剧本 你更需要去拍另一部电影 but better right rather than having to have written just you need to make another movie.
如果你做了很多 同样的电影也会变得更好 You just make the same movie better when you create a lot.
你会选择使用哪种工具 Which tool do you use the have a preference,
或者这只是你通常的做法 or it's just what you usually do.
是的 Yeah,
通常我最近赚很多钱的时候 usually when I'm making lot's lately,
你知道我曾经在各种平台上做午餐 you know I used to make lunch in all different types of platforms,
但我现在真正要做的是下定决心 你可以在古巴度过33到65个月 然后把结果写下来 but really what I use now is just the resolve you can make thirty three or sixty five Cuban months and write up the results.
我现在就是这么做的 And that's how I do it now.
它真的很容易 It's really easy.
我中午有幸运图书馆 I've got my luck library at noon.
结合一对或可以添加一些颜色校正或任何我想在那里有曲线或任何其他有趣的东西你决定柏林那里 Combine couple or can add some color correction or whatever I want in there are curves or any other fun things you decided Berlin There.
所以我可以这样做或者我可以结合很多和克里斯蒂亚诺的创造力所以我可以 So I can do that you know or I can combine lots and Cristiano creative capacity so I can.
我会把它们合并在一起 然后创建一个新的光源 I will actually merge them together and then create a new light.
所以你知道 这类事情现在没事了 so you know that kind of stuff is it's all right now.
我使用结果 I use of results.
你能得到实际的生产图像或提前测试吗 Are you able to get actually production images or test ahead of time,
有时你只需要根据你机器上的图像 and sometimes you just have to do by whatever image you have on your machine?
通常情况下 Usually,
我有一些发型和化妆测试 I do get some sort of hair and makeup of production tests.
有时是我在创建表格的外观 Sometimes it's I'm creating a look of tables.
提供的东西 只是在同一相机上拍摄 并从谁的相同类型的照明如此良好的估计 offer something that's just shot on the same camera and from whom the same kind of lighting so good estimate.
但之后我通常可以进行优化 在我们真正开始拍摄之前 But then I will be able to usually refine and before we actually start shooting,
这样他们就能确定那是一个 you know so that they can really be sure that's one.
基本上 你要建立一个你想要做的模型 Basically you build a mockup of what you want to do;
他们应该进行测试 they should a test,
它们会回到你身边 they come back to you,
你知道你需要调整什么 you see what you need to adjust,
你创造了真正的英雄 and you create the actual hero.
洛克 Lok,
是的 Yes,
完全正确 exactly.
这与我有机会与他们一起制作三部作品时所做的非常相似 it's very similar to what I do when when I have the chance to work with them in three production.
有时候你没有机会 sometimes you don't have the chance.
关于ctl的使用你有什么特别的指示吗就像他们有偏好一样 Do you have any particular indications for your daily calories for details about the use of the ctl like they have a preference?
你想让他们保持最低限度 You wanted them to keep it very minimal.
或者只是 or just.
他是怎么付钱的 How did he pay?
它是如何工作的 How does it work?
当你不能在那里的时候 与悲伤的互动是很好的 The interaction with the sad when you cannot be there exactly well.
这取决于每一个dhc和电影摄影师 每一个节目或电影都是非常不同的 It really depends on every every dhc and cinematographer and every show or movie is very different.
但大多数时候 But most of the time,
我尽量不让他们把黑人打倒得太厉害 when the deities I try not to have them bring at the blacks down too much right,
你总是试图保留它 这样CTL就不会破坏任何东西 you always try to keep it so that the ctl isn't crushing anything.
这不是在剪东西 That's not clipping anything,
所以这更像是一种技术上的东西帮助你了解半退休的人 so it's really more of a technical thing and be in helping you know the semiretired from when you're going from,
当我在做一个非常简单的东西时 如果有些东西太亮或太暗 you know whenever something that may be too bright or too dark when I'm doing a very simple stuff,
所以我尽量让它保持简单 so I just try to keep it as simple as possible.
有时我会创建信号dft是一个起点 Sometimes I will create signals for the dft is a starting point.
所以 So,
例如 for example,
如果你知道的没错 if you know right,
所以如果他们有节目 so if they've got a show,
会 that's gonna,
看看表 我指的是任何一个 look at table that I mean any of them,
但是他们有一个闪回 but then they have a flashback.
他们想要非常不同的外观 They want a very different look.
然后我就可以创建一个CEO只用非常简单的颜色校正 Then I can actually create a CEO with just very simple color correction.
我可以创建ctrl键 赋予它某种神性 I can create that ctrl and give that some deity and say,
这将是一个非常相似的外观对于你的闪回所以你不需要改变表 this is going to be a very similar look for you were for your flash back so you don't have to change with the tables,
因为如果你改变你在这个动物身上做的查表射线 because if you change lookup tables ray which you've made in this animal,
你知道这个吗 do you know this?
但是当你改变切割表的时候 他们并没有按照正确的工作流程 那是一个手动的过程 But when you change the cut tables they don't follow along with the workflow right that's a manual process,
再多一点它就不会像CEO一样跟着你走了 a little bit more you it doesn't follow along like a CEO.
他们开始不恰当地使用查找表 They started to use the lookup table inappropriately.
在其他场景 In other scenes.
它们不是设计成这样工作的 They are not designed to work on that way,
完全浸泡就是全部 exactly soaking be a total.
它可能非常复杂 It can be very complicated,
所以如果我看到了细节 so if I do see details,
不过 though,
即使CEO说他们想做一些更复杂的事情 and even if the CEO say they wanted to do something more complicated,
一个CEO不会简单的黑白分明 that a CEO won't you simply black and white,
只是留着红酒 just keeping the reds?
有一些类似的东西 There are something like that.
我能做的是 What I could do is,
我 I.
你能知道 Could you know,
做一些非黑即白的事情 然后说 do something that is just all black and white and just say,
好吧 okay,
我们等会儿再带红酒回来 we'll we bring reds back later or whatever you know,
只是得到一个近似 just getting an approximation you know,
有好几次我给出了不止一个查找表 There have been times where I have given more than one lookup table,
但我只是和神交流 这真的很重要 but just I just communicate with the deity like this is just really important,
你只会用这一次 that you only use it for this time or whatever,
或者这真的是创造性的自由 or if this really creative frees.
你看起来就像一部电影 我也这么做过 you look like a movie I've done that too.
我创造了一个几乎是白天黑夜的东西 I've created something that it's almost like a day for nights,
或一些疯狂的事情 or something crazy,
就像一个幻想 天空有一点粉红色或紫色或类似的东西 like a fantasy where the sky with little pink or purple or something like that right.
这些都很疯狂 So those are some crazy ones,
我刚刚和D组的人谈过 他们确保所有人都在同一页上 这很有效 and those I just talked to the D teams make sure that there were all on the same page and that's worked out pretty well.
效果很好 It's worked out pretty well,
但通常情况下 尤其是当他们用快速射击时 but usually if it's something that especially if they're shooting with the fast,
如果这是一部电视剧或者其他我想做的事情 if it's a TV series or something that I'll try to do something else to be the most of the way,
在那里 there.
你提到了颜色科学 So you mentioned color science.
我们也担心 因为颜色科学家和我想问你们的问题 we mention also fear that because of the colour scientist and the question I want to ask you,
是这个吗现在有很多人 is this one there are a lot of people right now.
听我们的 Listen to us,
当你谈到颜色符号时 and when you talk about color signs,
他们毫无头绪 they have no clue.
比如你能简单地给我们介绍一下颜色科学的简易性吗 like can you briefly introduce us to what the color science ease?
为什么是重要的 Why is important and perhaps suggest,
如你所知 as you know,
一本书或两本书 或者其他地方 我们可以去了解更多关于它的知识 a book or two or some place where we can go and actually learn a little bit more about it.
有趣 Interesting.
好吧 Well,
然而 色彩科学实际上是管理一种工作流程 即理解图像的技术构建模块 yet so color science is really about managing a work flow about understanding the technical building blocks of an image.
好吧 OK,
假设你有一个空中相机它有某种几何感通过某种方式它测量颜色并观察颜色 so say you've got an airy camera and it's got a certain sense of geometry by discus certain way that it measures color and looks at color.
这和红色摄像头很不一样 That's very different than say a red camera right.
那么聪明的科学家会做什么呢 So what a clever scientist does is there?
他们基本上什么都知道 They know basically all.
哦 Oh,
空气是如何工作的红色是如何工作的 how the airy works now how the red works,
他们也了解我的全部 and then they also know all me.
不同颜色空间的优缺点 你必须在其中工作 Pros and cons of different color spaces that you have to work in.
正确的 Right.
不知道哪个颜色空间大 Don't really know which color space is large.
所以 As so,
有X there's like X,
Y Y,
Z颜色空间P三颜色空间有七九个战士面对每一个都意味着不同的东西对吧 Z color space P three color space there are seven or nine fighters face each one of those is meant for different things right.
所以七台或九台主要用于普通电视机 So seven or nine was meant mainly for a normal Tvs.
然后是每个dpr Then there's each dpr,
当然 of course,
这是另一种颜色的脸 which is another whole colors face really,
然后你知道这个XYZ and then you know this X Y Z,
这是恐惧的表现 通常是在影院里看到的 which is what in fears and usually see things projected in theaters.
它通常是卓越色彩空间 It's usually Excellency color Space.
颜色科学家主要做两件事 So what a color scientist does is basically with two things.
收购 There's acquisition.
然后是展示 他们会穿上羊毛 And then there's presentation so they they will go ahead in their wool.
基本上 Basically,
确保在获取图像时 make sure that when you are acquiring image,
所有的谜题都是技术性的 能够使图像不被破坏 或者图像如何 that all the pieces of the puzzle that are technical to be able to make that image not be broken or how that image have,
其中可能包含的信息最多 但处理的信息最少 the most information in it is possible and processed the least right there,
那就是你越练习一个意象就知道睡莲平静年轻对吧 which is the more you practice an image to know that the water lily calm young right,
所以基本上他们的工作就是确保给你提供尽可能多的信息 so they basically the job is in that position to make sure they give you the most information possible,
比如我们喜欢的颜色 such as the colors we love,
信息 information,
汽车的颜色 vehicle color,
所以他们不是最好的搜索对象 and so they weren't the best search up there.
然后 And then,
当涉及到基本的演示时 when it comes to you know basic presentation,
比如我们用p3和大屏幕上的 HenryColor say we go Henry Color something in a P three and a big screen,
现在是六十五 making d sixty five.
那么现在就必须将其映射到SDR then that has to now be mapped to SDR.
没有映射到每个纱玻璃 也必须映射以适应三维 None has mapped to each yarn glass and also has to be mapped to fit three D.
我被要求被映射到任何其他口味 I was asked to be mapped to whatever other flavor.
如果有人看着Ipad告诉你汽车应该是怎样的 If there are any people that look at an Ipad and tell you how the car should be right.
所以 Exactly so,
所有这些都是颜色科学家的重要组成部分 All of that now is is a huge part of a color scientists.
这些都是无声的事情 就这样发生了 It's all kind of a silent thing that just kind of happens,
当你看到图片时 and when you see an image on,
我看到一个大屏幕和HTML 感觉都是一样的 and I caught on a big screen and HTML that all kind of feel at the same thing.
这是一种颜色 and that's a color.
做了伟大工作的科学家们 Scientists that did a great job.
现在有人问了一个问题 我又看了看这个列表 Now somebody is asking a question that I'm looking at the list again.
你有一个韩国妹妹 You have a sister Korean.
如果你以基线为基础 以结果为基础 If you work on a baseline and you work on result,
这是一种选择吗 is that a choice of just it happen.
是的 Yeah,
好吧 well,
我是 I am,
我还会跑垒 I also run base like,
但我觉得我更喜欢自己的决心 but I feel like I am more comfortable the resolve I like,
分辨率的速度 我喜欢它的灵活性 the speed of the resolve and I like how flexible it is.
基线也有很多作用 The baseline does a lot of things as well,
但我觉得我个人对决心更有经验 也更适应它 but I feel I just personally have more experience with the resolve and have a more comfortable with it.
我知道我姐姐在她的职业生涯中也扮演过各种不同肤色的角色 and I know my sister runs resolve as well as she's run all different types of color characters to her career as well.
所以我认为部分原因是你所在的公司的工作流程 So I think part of it is the work flow at a company where you're at right company three,
几乎每个人都是年轻的右派 almost everybody is most on is a line of young right,
还有一些人在不同的事情上 但主要是它的决心 and there's a few other people who are on different things but mainly its resolve.
然后我知道我和我妹妹一起练轻铁 And then I know that at light iron with my sister works,
很长一段时间以来 they had for a long time basically,
或者在巴勃罗离开之前他们还有别的东西 or they had something else before the Pablo leave before that,
这只在我们工作的那个受欢迎的院子里 Which is only on the popular yard around our work on that for a decade,
所以这可能有点类似于基础板然后解决所以这真的是关于你工作的公司的工作流程也只是你觉得舒服的 so that's probably a little bit more similar to the base plate and then resolves so it's really just about the work flow on the company you work for and also just what you're comfortable with.
我觉得发生在我身上的一件事是发生在我身上的一件事 I think one thing that happened to me actually to things that happened to me.
最后我和某人一起做了几个项目 I ended up to work for a couple of projects with somebody.
他们有部分色盲 There was partially colorblind,
还与后期制作主管一起工作 她是TetraChromeOS 所以她可以看到我的生活中看不到的颜色 but also work with Post production supervisor that she was Tetra Chrome OS so that she can see color that I could not see for the life of me.
是的 Yeah,
如果你遇到过这种情况 if you have been in this situation,
你会怎么做 what do you do?
是的 Yes,
我曾经和很多人合作过 他们私下告诉我他们叫兔子 I have worked with many people who secretly tell me they are called bunnies.
一定要确保 因为我们现在再也不会提起他了 Make sure cuz we will never mention him now,
当它谈到威胁本身的有色线时 在彩色糖果中发生的事情就停留在颜色套装中 and what happens in the color sweet stays in the color suit when it talks about colored line at the threat itself.
我们没有 we don't.
我们不谈这个 We don't talk about that,
但因为你知道这是事实 but because it's the fact you know,
每个人对颜色的看法都不一样 对事物的感知也不一样 everybody's human and I must see everybody sees colour differently and perceives things differently.
所以真的 So really,
是的 yeah.
我和很多人一起工作过他们说我们的海岸线和太阳的对比非常好 I've worked with a bunch of people for sure who our coastline and they said the sun I can really see contrast very well.
我真的看不到颜色 I really can't see color,
所以你知道他们的评论主要是对比 so you know the comments if they make will be mainly on contrast,
有时甚至它也不会看到好的结果 and sometimes even it will don't see coming well.
非常清楚地看到对比 See contrast extremely well.
很有趣 Very funny.
实际上 Actually,
我移除了那个人 I removed that person.
他有一种尖锐的 He has an acute,
对蓝调音乐极为敏感 acute sensitivity to the blues.
当你对我来说是个危险的时候 you at the point where for me it was a danger,
我看不清河流 也看不出颜色不对 I couldn't see the rivers a neuron or that the color is wrong.
好吧 OK,
是的 yes,
我的改变是基于我的直觉 因为我能看到其中的区别 I do a change based on I instinct at that point because I can see the difference.
他是见过 He was seen.
是的 Yeah,
完全正确 exactly.
不 no,
我也遇到过这种情况当然 我也遇到过不同的情况 I've run into that for sure I've run into different situations where wherein they interpreter.
他们以不同的方式看待事物 因为他们现在看到的任何两个人都知道很多额外的颜色 They see things differently based on their current and ever two people who could see you know a lot of extra colors.
你知道的 you know,
我认为这完全是关于沟通的 I think it's definitely all about communication at that point right there.
你知道 How about you know,
好吗 OK?
你在哪里看到的蓝色 Where are you seeing the blue?
你看到了吗 我喜欢在舞台上唱歌 或者你在阴影中看到了它 或者你看到了你知道的那种东西 Are you seeing it and I like to sing on stage or you've seen it back in the shadows or where you see you know that kind of thing?
我试着去了解他们的想法 I try to get in their head a little bit.
你刚刚提出了沟通的软技能这是他知道的另一件事 You just filed to talk about communication so soft skill that is one of the other thing that he knew to be.
你知道的 You know,
在工作流程中 你无法通过你与客户之间的关系 the courses you cannot get there on your relationship with the client in the room outside the room during the workflow,
再多告诉我一点 tell me a little bit more about that.
是的 Yeah,
我想你们知道 I think that you know,
我也经常对心理学家说我工作的一部分就是研究颜色 I always say a part of my job as the colors to psychologists as well,
因为如果你仔细想想 because if you think about it,
如果我们和那些在电影上工作了两年或者更长时间的人一起工作 他们的到来是孩子出生之前的最后一步 if we were are working with people who have been working on a movie sometimes two years sometimes longer and they come in were the final step before they leads to baby into the world.
所以要有耐心 要有理解 要设身处地为他们着想 So there is gonna be a lot of patience and an understanding and a lot of putting myself in their shoes.
他们一直在看的 What they've been looking at,
这就是为什么呃 That's why eh,
你知道 让一个调色师从自由的双手进化出来是非常重要的 you know really is so important to have a colorist evolved from free begin hands like is huge,
但无论如何 but anyway,
所以建立起这种沟通和信任首先是和客户建立起来的 so having that communication and that trust built right touches having that first built with a client it is,
它需要时间 it takes time,
但基本上 but it basically,
一旦你开始理解他们看到的是什么 once you start to understand what they're seeing right,
你走到哪里 You go,
我总是看到你 I always see you gotta,
让你的头脑稍微了解一下洞穴 get your mind a little bit and understand a cave.
你在哪里看到的 Where are you seeing this?
我总是问很多问题 你觉得他们的城市怎么样 I always ask a lot of questions how how do you feel about their city?
有时我会非常 And sometimes I'll get very,
非常明确的方向和人 very explicit direction and with people,
主要是电影摄影师 mainly cinematographers,
说着光和色 who speak light and color,
这个人很容易 因为他们也有语言 that someone is as much easier that they also have the language.
有时我和导演一起工作 他们可以告诉我一种感觉 Sometimes I worked with director where they can tell me a feeling,
但很多时候却不能准确地表达自己想要什么 but cannot express what they want exactly in a lot of time.
导演的 The director's,
了 too.
这只是一种不同的语言 感觉不太对 感觉不太对 It's just a different language there like it just doesn't feel right like it doesn't feel the real right.
那么我们该如何解读才能让我来解读他呢 So how do we interpret that so that I can our job to interpret of him?
你觉得什么才是真实的 What does it feel real to you?
好吧 Okay,
是哪一部分 或者你在看什么 what part of it or what have you been looking at?
当你感觉是真实的 When you feel like is real,
我们现在在哪里 and where are we now?
你知道的 You know kind of things.
所以这是可以理解的 So it's interpret figuring that allowed.
当你回过头来看这个表情的时候当你在构建一个已经占主导地位的表情的时候 When you go back to the look for a second when you are building a look aside from having prevailed,
特别是构建模块 building blocks is there in particular,
真正下定决心 你最喜欢打 就像我个人不喜欢曲线一样 truly resolved that you like to play most like I personally don't like curves.
我知道人们喜欢女孩 I know people love girl.
所以有没有一个特别的 So is there a particular you know,
这是一把瑞士刀 你可以用它来处理你想要的效果 a Swiss knife that you use in resolve to manipulate the look to get to where you want it interesting.
好吧 Well,
我也不喜欢路缘 I don't like curbs either.
顺便说一下 我经常 By the way I'm very often very,
非常罕见地快速刹车 very rarely lighting Samak Blake brakes very quickly,
但是 but.
我不知道这一次是否正确 否则我经常使用的颜色扭转是对的 I don't know if this once otherwise there's the colored twist I use often is right.
所以无论是在黑色中添加一点颜色还是在高光中添加一点颜色 so whether it be a little bit of color in the black and a little bit of color in the highlight,
黑而温暖的高地上的一粒沙子 a penny sand in the black and warm in the Highlands,
电影的 very filmic.
这是最基本的 That's kind of a basic one.
分批处理不同的层次 Batch different levels of that very,
非常微小的位元可以增加图像的深度 very slight bits can add a lot of depth to an image.
所以我得说这绝对是我经常做的事 So I'd say that's definitely something I go too often,
你肯定知道 you know for sure,
就像制造一个巨大的完全分离 like creating a big total separation,
这就完成了 and that is done.
通常情况下 Usually,
我什么都不用 I don't use anything,
真的很喜欢 really very fancy.
我只是再次使用分离升力 I just use the separation lift gamma again.
我不需要使用任何具体的 I don't necessarily use any specific,
疯狂的工具 crazy tools.
在很多方面我的方法都很简单 I'm very simple with a lot of my approach with that in a lot of ways,
提升伽玛和增益 找到平衡 lift gamma and gain and is finding that balance.
我是一个强烈的支持者有一个强大的形象 然后做一个键 然后做一个电动窗口 I'm a huge proponent of having a strong image and then doing a key and then doing a power window.
我在同一时间工作 I worked at the same time,
你之前的第一次被称为卓越的结束圈因为他们决定在你开始的地方有一个新的开始 your first before that have called it the closing circle of excellence as they've decided to have a fresh where you start large,
从一张漂亮的图片开始 Where you start with a nice image,
颜色对比很明显 really salad with the color contrast,
当然 看一下表格就知道他们有一些真正可靠的东西 of course with a look of table involved to know that they have something that's really solid,
然后你进去 开始微调 and then you go in and you start fine tuning so you know,
我想很多时候会与肤色相冲突 I think lots sometimes out against skin tones.
我是一个强烈的支持者 让肤色感觉非常真实 I am a big proponent of keeping skin tones feeling very connected in very real.
即使你处在一个有很多疯狂事情发生的环境中 even if you're in an environment that's got a lot of really crazy stuff going on,
有这种感觉很好 因为我觉得当我看到肉的时候 it's nice to have that because I feel when at the flesh,
语气和现实扯得太远了 tone gets pulled too far away from reality.
然后是P Then what happens is P.
我认为这一定会下意识地把观众从电影中带走 I think it is some subliminally like will definitely take the audience away from what's happening in the movie.
这个故事 The story.
我会问你另一个愚蠢的问题如果我想到我可怜的formation I would ask you another silly question if I think about my poor are formation,
我总是在一百九百次中回到它 and I go back always to it in a million nine hundred,
当照片出来的时候 印象是电影明星出现在现场 when photography came out when the impression is movie star to be on the scene,
这是一个角落实验的爆炸 而不是试图破坏现实 and there was an explosion of a corner experimentation versus just trying to disrupt reality.
作为一个调色师 你觉得你只是在欺骗吗 So you as a colorist do you feel you are trying to just deceit?
现实中有一些点缀 reality with some embellishment.
或者你觉得你更像印象派的人穿颜色成为故事的一部分 or you feel you are more of an impressionist wear color become integral part of the story,
这是一个很好的问题 and they're really good question.
我想从来没人问过我这个问题 I don't think I've ever been asked that that is.
这要看是什么电影 It depends on the movie.
我想说 在我职业生涯的这个阶段 I would say at this point in my career,
因为我在这已经有一段时间了 because I have been around for a while.
现在我觉得我可以更像个印象派画家 Now I feel like I've been allowed to be more of an impressionist,
我想很多时候我真的很喜欢它 and I think that's a lot of the time where I really love it,
对的 right,
我真的很想成为那种印象就是把事情推进得更远一点 I'm really passionate about being that impression is about pushing things a little bit further,
找到不同的东西 finding things that are different,
但在为某些电影创作时 也有很多满足感 这些电影就像巨大的视觉事实 应该感觉非常真实 But there's also a lot of satisfaction in creating for certain movies that are like big visual facts that are really supposed to feel very real.
这是一个很大的满足感 发现了现实 帮助视觉效果感觉更真实 帮助拍摄可能的镜头 There's a big satisfaction and finding that reality and helping the visual effects to feel more real and helping shots that were may be shot,
一个在澳大利亚 一个在纽约 一个在温哥华 one in Australia and one in New York and one in Vancouver.
我要把他们聚在一起 And I'm bringing them all together.
有些观众没有注意到 Some of the audience doesn't notice,
这也是 so that is also really,
非常令人满意 really satisfying as well.
所以在它的结尾和我的职业生涯中都很有趣 So it's interesting at its end and in my career.
在这一点上 at this point,
我说嗯 I said well,
就像是印象派和现实主义的完美结合 like a pretty healthy mix of both an impressionist and a realist.
你喜欢我 You like me,
我们工作太多了 we work too much.
有时候你知道我过着九分的生活 Sometimes you know I live a nine.
你还 You're still,
他们在做什么 they're doing something,
所以如果你能让你的眼睛保持新鲜 so if how you can keep your eye fresh,
我的意思是 I mean,
我们知道 大度贯穿了一天 we know that the generous through the day.
如果你有一个秘密 比如你如何重置一会儿 让我们长时间 If you have a secret like how you can reset for a moment and kept us long hour,
我的意思是 I mean,
我知道一个市场 I know a market,
他们仍在工作 they are still working committee.
他会死的 He'll die.
想知道 Wonder,
是的 Yeah,
但 是的 but yeah,
哦 oh,
我尽量在有机会的时候休息一下 到外面走走 休息一下 呼吸一下新鲜空气 I try to take breaks when it can and walk outside and just just take a break and take a breath of fresh air.
看看天空 Look at the sky,
你知道 and just you know,
休息一下 just take a break.
同时 Also,
我想这就像我们这些长期从事这项工作的人一样 I think it's just like any of us who have been doing this for a long time.
你会有很好的条件去适应那种环境 You get very condition to to be able to be in that environment,
你知道你的眼睛不会像他使用静止帧那样漂移 and you know your eye doesn't drift as much he used still frames.
我经常这样做 以确保 Often I do anyway to be able to make sure.
好吧 OK,
这是我的英雄在场景开始时的照片 here's my hero shot on the beginning of the scene,
我们要让它流畅地贯穿到场景的最后在场景的最后 and we've got to make it flow to the end of the scene at end of the scene.
要一直仔细地检查 以确保我没有漂移到任何地方 Always double check side by side is still to make sure that I haven't drifted anywhere,
但我的工作时间太长会让我更难做到这一点 but I'm really long hours tend to make it more difficult to do that,
但这真的 but that really,
你知道的 you know,
做了这么久 after doing this for so long,
只是有点 it's just kind of,
我认为是一种学会的技能或一种熟练的状态而不是让它随波随流 I think a skill learned or a condition skilled and not let it drift too.
是的 Yeah,
我倾向于在一开始就做关键的公司决策 这在后来的配色中有所体现 I tend to do the critical corporate decision at the beginning of this has shown in the color matching later on.
因为 because,
就像你说的 like you say,
参考 take reference,
看着他们 look at them off,
这样就更容易保持一致性 then it's much easier to keep consistency.
有一次我们在谈论蓝色的天空 One time we were talking about the blue sky,
我一直在让一个场景做一个修正 让天空变成浅蓝色 and I've been asking a scene to do a correction to make the baby blue sky.
不幸的是 Unfortunately,
太阳的位置就是这样 the position of the sun was such.
只是颜色不对 That is just a wrong color.
你是否处理过类似的请求 Are you approach a similar request where it,
你知道的 you know,
颜色不对 it's the wrong color,
你知道会很糟糕的 you know it's going to be bad.
它看起来像假的 It's going to look like false.
你是被要求这么做的 You have been asked to do it,
所以你如何接近心理这是你必须要做的问题 so how you approach mental it is this problem that you have to do so.
在这种情况下 我通常是被要求这么做的 That's a case where usually it's like I've been asked to do that.
通常跑到阴天或晴天都是白色的天空之类的 Usually run to take a cloudy or a flat day were white sky or something like that.
所以这不仅仅是创造一个蓝天 so it's more than just creating a blue sky right,
它必须在图像的某个地方产生光 and it would have to be creating light somewhere in the image.
我就这么做 so I'll do that.
假设你的天气是阴天 So say if you've got an overcast day,
然后有人说我们需要蓝天 and then somebody says we need blue sky,
它需要感觉阳光明媚 it needs to be feel sunny.
当我没事的时候 When I was OK,
蓝色的天空 well blue sky,
我们会找到找到蓝天的方法 we'll find a way to find some blue sky.
她可能被画在云朵上 或者在天空中创造某种深度 She may be painted like drawn to clouds or create some sort of depth in the sky,
对吧 right?
一些纹理可能会让它感觉那里不可能是蓝色的 然后创建保存 some sort of texture that might make it feel like there couldn't be blue there and then also creating save.
我们在看一个田野的场景 当树木产生几束光线照射到一些树木或草地上 We're looking at a scene of a field as the trees creating maybe a couple of rays of light hitting some trees are hitting the grass or something,
所以感觉就像是有光从某个地方射来这样就能增加一些缝隙 so it feels like it actually could have light coming from somewhere that it could give you a little bit more of that gaps.
在这种情况下 So in that case,
我不会只是去看天空 I would not only just go for the sky and see.
好的 OK.
好吧 Well,
让我们看一看大局 let's look at the bigger picture.
这里是当且仅当我们能让它感觉 如果你想 Here are literally if and only if we could make it feeling if you want,
它是有趣 it's funnier,
这就是为什么你想要一片蓝天 and that's why you're asking for a blue sky,
或者你想找个更有阳光的镜头也许我们应该 or you wanted to match to a sunnier shot than maybe we should just.
试着用一些颜色创造更多的光线来帮助你 Try to create a little bit more light with some color to be able to help,
不仅仅是在天空中 and not just in the sky,
但是重新引入一些光亮 but reintroduce some of the light.
如果有天空 它就会存在 It will be there if there was the sky factly,
我认为时间到了 I think over time is up,
但有件事我没问你 but you know is there is something that I didn't ask you.
你还有几分钟 You have another couple of minutes,
你想跟我们谈谈的事 something that you want to talk to us about.
好吧 Well,
你有一些很好的问题要问 you have some really good questions that have to say,
啊 Ah,
你知道的 you know,
我们来看一下 let's see well basically.
莫森你说我们谈了不少 Mohsen When you say we covered quite a bit,
我的意思是 I mean,
你知道工作时间很长 you know the long hours,
与客户的关系 the relationships with clients,
你知道的 you know.
我想我工作时间长的原因之一是因为我真的很喜欢我的工作 one of the reasons I guess I work a lot of hours and is because I really love what I do,
我喜欢和我的客户一起工作 and I love working with my clients.
你知道的 You know,
我也有类似的经历 因为它对我说 I have a similar time for it comes to me and says,
嘿 Hey,
我们有一个非常棒的脚本可以做这种样子 we've got this really amazing script can do this kind of look,
你知道的 you know,
让我们把它弄清楚 所以有时候我会做这些项目 因为我对它充满了热情 let's let's figure it out right so that sometimes what happens is that I take these projects because it's I'm so passionate about it.
但是他们都非常接近于正确的是在学术上比妓女的传播劝阻起作用 But then they all tend to be very close to get right is in an academically than the spread of harlots dissuade works.
但这就是我们的世界有时会发生的事情吗 But so that's that sometimes what happens in our world?
写作的时候 就像你必须自己想明白一样 Write like you just have to figure it out.
我很幸运我的孩子们理解愚蠢的失败 And I'm lucky that my my children understand stupefy failure.
我现在是第三任妻子了 I'm on my third wife at this point.
最后一个问题你对指导有什么想法吗 One last question Do you have any thought about mentoring likely?
对你来说重要吗 Is it important to you?
这样做吗 Do it?
你能做到并且知道如何传给下一代吗 can you do it and you know how you pass to the next generation?
你知道什么 What you know?
我喜欢分享信息 因为我觉得在我的职业生涯中 I love to share information because I feel that when I was coming up in my career,
有几个人我一直记得 I had a several people that I always remember,
他们非常 who were very,
很有帮助 very helpful.
当我问了无数问题时 我对他们的知识很坦诚 也很耐心 I'm forthcoming with their knowledge and patient with me when I would ask a hundred million questions,
所以我喜欢这样做 so I o love doing that.
我 I,
你知道的 you know,
我最近没做过 但以前在fy教过 I haven't done it lately but used to teach it at fy.
我做尽可能多的教学工作 以便能够分享知识 I do as many teaching things that as I possibly can to be able to to share knowledge.
如果和我一起工作的人想要来 if somebody that I'm working with a company three it wants to come.
看看我没人监督的时候在做什么 See what I'm doing when I'm unsupervised.
欢迎你 Always welcome you,
我总是会解释我在做什么 我在做什么 在标题附近 and I always will explain what I'm doing and what I'm up to and near the heading.
所以我认为这是非常非常重要的事情 so it's definitely is something I think a super super important,
因为有些事你是知道的 because there's just certain things you know.
一个人很难弄清楚是哪五个还是哪几个 It's hard to figure out by herself like a certain five or a certain,
你知道的 you know,
哦 oh,
技术 technique going,
哦 Oh,
这样做很容易 so easily do it that way.
这很简单 It's very simple,
你知道的 you know,
你是电影艺术与科学学院的成员吗 are you a member of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts Science,
不是学院 not the Academy.
现在你必须去学院 Now the academy you have to,
因为他们有一个很好的导师项目 Because they actually have a pretty nice mentorship program where,
作为一名调色师 as aas a colorist,
学院给他们指派了一个初级染发师 they'd been assigned a junior colorist from the Academy.
你知道 And you know,
每两到三周 every two to three weeks.
我们不变焦 风投认为这是一个推卸责任的好方法 we do zoom less sense of VC says it's a nice way to pass the buck.
这里有个冒号在呼叫你 Now is a colon here calling for you here.
艾伦在这里 Ellen is here.
这很好 因为我们从吉尔 it is very nice because we go from Jill.
我们谈论核心科学 它会给你接力棒 实际上是你的课程 We talk about core science and it will give the baton to you that actually your lesson.
我们会成为另一种颜色科学 We'll be other color science.
所以吉尔 So Jill,
我真的很感谢你今晚能来 I really appreciate you were able to be with us tonight.
你是我的灵感之一 You're my one of my inspiration,
所以我可以告诉你我谢谢你 so I can tell you I thank you,
你知道的 you know,
非常非常感谢 thank you very very,
非常 very,
非常感谢 very much.
好吧 Well,
非常感谢你们邀请我 thank you so much for having me,
一直以来都很棒 as has been awesome.
科林 Colin.
我在这里 地板是你的 Here I am floor is yours.
让我重复沃尔特斯对凝胶的赞美 Let me start by echoing Walters praise of gel,
以及她父亲在这一领域和他们之间的杰出人物 as well as of her dad to absolute luminaries in the field and between the two of them,
一大堆我钦佩和渴望的东西 an incredible amount of what I admire and have aspired to,
还有很多知识 and a lot of the knowledge.
具体地说 吉尔 specifically that Jill,
你爸爸这么多年来和我分享的东西简直太酷了 your dad has shared with me over the years is like so so cool,
如此巨大 so huge,
谢谢你这么棒 just thanks for being awesome,
谢谢你告诉我你仍然需要匹配来确保吉尔 and thanks for showing you still need to match to make sure that Jill,
我知道我只会在那里停留一个小时 学习更多东西 但我只会喜欢它 I know I will just be there a token for hour and learning more yet only would love it.
脑科林 Cerebral Colin,
你是一名调色师 有一年的经验你做了很多工作 你在核心科学方面有一些特殊技能 you're a colorist and year of experience you did a lot of a lot of work and you have some special skill on core science.
你能帮我们吗 Can you help us on that?
是的 Yeah,
我有一些游戏 I've got some game,
但具体来说 我想从艺术家的角度和你们谈谈图像科学 but specifically I want to kind of talk to you guys about image science from the perspective of an artist.
我想说的是 对于很多颜色来说 图像科学是一个有问题的话题因为我们并没有接受过很多训练这个学科当然也没有接受过正式的训练 And I want to talk about how image science is kind of a problematic topic for a lot of colors because we don't tend to get a lot of training and the subject certainly no formal training,
我们甚至更不知道如何实际应用它 and we get even less of a sense of how we might practically apply it.
所以我们倾向于在这里和那里收集tid So we tend to kind of pick up tid bits here and there,
我们试图使用正确的行话与我们的客户和我们的同行 and we try to use the right lingo with our clients and our peers.
然后我们试着说服自己 不管我们不知道什么 and then we try to convince ourselves that whatever we don't know,
无论我们在这一领域的知识有多丰富 无论其他知识有多丰富 whatever the edge of our knowledge of this field is is sufficient and whatever else is out,
有一些学者和工程师 there is kind of academics and engineers,
我们不需要担心这个 and we don't need to concern ourselves with it.
今晚我想告诉你们的是图像科学并不是我们创造过程的对手 What I want to talk to you guys about tonight is that image science is not an adversary to our creative process.
它可以成为一个非常有力的盟友 it can actually be an incredibly potent ally.
我想给你们看几个例子来说明我们可以利用的方法 and I want to show you guys a couple of examples of the way that we can leverage.
图像科学创造性指南针应该看着看着它 这有点像可怕的其他工艺 因为让我们面对这是吉尔总结一下前图像科学的支柱从传感器到屏幕上没有图像科学不存在的 我们 Image science as a creative compass had supposed to looking at looking at it as this sort of like scary other to the craft that we do because let's face it as Jill summarized just a moment ago image science is the backbone of the journey from sensor to screen without image science that doesn't exist that we,
因为比起这个过程 艺术家更容易被丢弃 as artists are far more disposable than that process.
我并不是说艺术家是一次性的 And I'm not saying artists are disposable at all were vital.
图像科学是我们赖以生存的基础 The image science that backbones things is what we are resting upon,
这是真的 so it's really,
把这些点连起来真的很有趣 really fun to start to connect those dots and see where image,
科学和创造力可以重叠 science and creativity can overlap.
让我们看一些东西 So let's take a look at some stuff.
我把屏幕拉出来 I'm going to pull up my screen here.
如果我记得缩放的时候怎么做 If I can remember how to do that in zoom,
应该有一个绿色共享方案 there should be a green share scenario.
你知道 你会想 在一年多的时间里 我每一天都在放大 我将成为津巴布韦的大师 you know you would think after a year plus of zooming every single day that I would be a master of Zimbabwe,
我做的最好的事情就是开始谈论 把他们当成奶奶的分享 the best thing I do is start to talk and think of them as Granny share,
有人说 and somebody says,
嘿 Hey,
布拉德 Brad,
我很高兴 I'm so happy.
我不是唯一一个每周去一次的人 I'm not the only one about about once a week that goes down for me,
所以我想从一个非常基本的开始 希望你们都能和我一起看她 so I want to start with a really basic one that hopefully you guys are all going to be with me on her.
你们中的很多人已经和我在一起了 Many of you all will already be with me on.
我想谈谈利用图像科学来集中我们的创造力 I want to talk about using image science to concentrate our creativity.
特别是 And specifically,
我想谈谈色彩管理 I want to talk about color management.
如果我看这样一个坐标系 So if I look at a frame like this,
这只是一个未评分的 which is just an ungraded,
很长时间看图像和它的相机原始状态 very long see image and its camera original state,
对我们很多人来说 直觉告诉我们 最具创造性的方法是用像resolve这样的颜色校正器的工具来手动分级这张图像 the intuition for many of us is that the most creative way to grade this image would be by hand using the tools that are available to us in a color corrector like resolve.
如果我们要这样做 And if we were to do something like that,
也许我们把阴影放下 把高光拉长 Maybe we drop our shadows down and we stretch our highlights out,
像这样 like so.
也许我们可以玩玩 And maybe we play around with our gamma.
也许你会做和我完全不同的事 Maybe you would do something completely different than me,
但我的观点是 这是一种直觉 我们会摆弄这些工具 直到我们得到一个可接受的结果 but my point is that this is kind of the intuition that we would play around with these tools until we get an acceptable result,
我只是想向你们证明 这种直觉其实并不成立 and I just want to demonstrate for you guys that this intuition actually doesn't really hold up.
这是一种误导我们认为我们在最大化我们的创造力 It's kind of a misleading thing where we think we are maximizing our creativity.
我们实际上是在分散我们的创造力 并将其应用于一堆不需要也不从中受益的任务上 We're actually dispersing our creativity and applying it to a bunch of tasks that don't demand and really don't benefit from it.
为了更好地理解我所说的 So to get a better sense of what I'm saying,
让我们转到另一个时间轴 let's kick over to this other timeline.
我们马上要进入核聚变领域这样我们就可以看到在引擎盖下面发生了什么像这样的调整 and we're going to go into fusion land for just a second so that we can get a look at what's going on under the hood with an adjustment like this.
让我们从双重角度来看左边的图像和右边的3drgb表示我们正在做的操作 So let's get kind of a dual view of our image on the left and a three D rgb representation of the manipulations that we're making here on the right,
我们将打开一份和我刚才用颜色校正工具做的操作一模一样的副本 and we're going to start by turning on a copy of the exact same kind of manipulations that I just made with my color correction tools.
好吧 OK,
我要把这个打开 这样会更好 So I'm going to flip this on like so and actually even better.
我们来做一些混合的东西我可以给你们试镜 Let's do a little blending things that I can audition for you guys.
这是我们的原始图像 Here was our original image,
这里我们在处理过的版本中逐渐淡出所以你可以看到不仅仅是在图像中发生了什么 and here we are fading up on the manipulated version so you can see kind of what's happening not only in the image,
但在这个立方体里 所有东西都向外爆炸 but in the cube were exploding everything way far outward,
也许我们能得到不错的视觉效果 and maybe we're getting a decent visual result.
但我想为你们做个比较 But I want to compare for you guys.
这和应用一些基本的色彩管理是不同的 The difference between that and applying some basic color management.
让我淡化这两种说法 So let me just fade between those two versions of things,
我们会看到这里和颜色都有变化 and we're going to see a change here as well as in our color.
库比拉在这两者之间淡出 所以在图像中 Cubillas fade between those so in the image,
明显的不同 definitely a noticeable difference.
也许如果我有一个一对一的比较 Maybe if I had the the one to one comparison,
我可以用这些颜色校正工具得到更紧密的视觉匹配 I could get a tighter visual match using those color correction tools to what I'm visually seeing here,
但是你可以看到这个立方体是白天和黑夜 but you can see that the cube is night and day here,
这里有各种各样奇特的东西你们可能也会被击中 也可能不会 and there's all kinds of fancy stuff going on here that you guys might or might not be hit too.
但这和音调和音域有很大关系 But a lot of it has to do with tone and gamut,
映射 Mapping,
也就是说 我们该如何处理这样一个事实 就是捕捉到这些的摄像机 meaning how do we deal with the fact that the ery cameras that capture this,
例如 for example,
能捕捉到更多的动态范围和颜色信息 比显示器能再现地毯上的任何显示 在Hdr爵士7到9点向地球讲话 captured way more dynamic range and colour information than a display can reproduce any display on a carpet speech to Earth at Sir Hdr at seven to nine.
不管吗 Whatever?
所以 So,
很多东西都是色域映射 a lot of that stuff is gamut mapping,
语气 tone,
映射 mapping,
非线性行为创造了最好的知觉匹配 这样我们作为采访者就能看到当时的摄像机 nonlinear behaviors that are creating a best perceptual match so that we as the interviewer see what the camera was shown at the time,
我会尽量让你们在视觉上把这个版本和那个版本匹配起来 and I would challenge you guys as hard as you might try to visually match this version to that version.
也许你能比我刚才离得更近 Maybe you could get closer than I did just now.
自由自在地做事 doing things kind of free hand,
但你永远不会得到任何接近两个匹配的颜色校正工具 but you will never get anywhere near two matching this with your color correction tools.
它们不是设计来做这些的 they're just not designed to do that.
有更好的解决方案已经被设计和实施 值得庆幸的是 有现成的 There are better solutions that have been engineered and implemented and thankfully there available to us right within sit.
在因此 Within result,
我们有色彩管理 we have colour management,
我们有ace we have aces,
我们有rcm we have rcm,
这是我第一次向你们推荐图像科学 so that's kind of my first pitched you guys for image science.
我们可以用它来集中我们的创造力 In terms of the way we can use it is to concentrate our creativity.
我们不要把它用在有更好解决方案的任务上 Let's not use it on tasks that we have better solutions to that.
那不需要我们的创造力 Don't that don't require our creativity.
让我们以对图像最有利的方式来使用它想想我们的校准就像这幅图像上的一个例子 Let's use it in ways that are actually going to benefit the image most so thinking about our calibrating just as an example on this image,
而不是那个和那个的区别它更像是这个和这个的区别然后可能要稍微看一下它的上游 instead of being the difference between that and that it's more like the difference between this and then may be sticking a little look upstream of it,
我要在这里放一个 and I'm just going to kind of like drop one in here.
这真的不是为拍摄本身量身定做的 This really isn't tailored to the shot per se,
但如果是全屏的话 就更有创意了 but if I go full screen like that's more where the creativity comes in.
我们怎么画这条曲线 How do we draw the curve?
我们怎么播放亮点 How do we roll the highlights?
我们如何把冷推到底部 把热推到顶部 How do we push cool into the bottom or warm into the top?
我们如何处理颜色在密度上上下移动的方式 How do we handle the way that colors move up or down in terms of density?
所有那些对我们发挥创造力至关重要的任务 All of those tasks that are incredibly vital for us to exert authorship over?
这就是我们要集中创造力的地方 That's where we want to concentrate our creativity.
这是我想跟你们讲的第一个概念 so it's kind of the first concept I wanted to talk to you.
就是利用好的图像科学来集中创造力 guys about is concentrating that creativity using good image science,
希望我们中的很多人都不是新手 也不是刚开始学习色彩创作 And hopefully we're a lot of us aren't new or learning colorists,
我们被灌输的方式可能是这个小组里的很多颜色在我们刚开始的时候没有的 and we are being indoctrinated in a way that probably a lot of the colors here on this panel weren't when we first started.
就使用好的色彩管理而言 不只是免费的 in terms of using good color management and not just free.
处理时使用标准工具有色彩校正 Handing things using the standard tools have color correction.
这是第一个概念 接下来我要讲的是我的下一个镜头 So that's kind of concept number one and the next thing I want to talk to you guys about I'm going to advance to my next shot here.
我们先来谈谈简化方法 Let's talk about simplifying methodology for a second,
因为这是伴随图像科学对话的另一种误解 because this is another sort of misconception that tends to accompany conversations around image science.
我们会想 Is we think about like,
哦 Oh,
这很复杂 让我的生活更加困难 it's it's complex and it makes my life more difficult.
而一个市长可能不会带来切实的好处 And a mayor may not yield a tangible benefit.
事实上 图像科学可以帮助我们找到任何任务的理想解决方案 Image science can actually help us to find the ideal solution to any task that were tackling,
我希望大家都同意这是最简单的说法 which I hope we can all agree is the simplest possible version.
我们想用最简单的方法解决问题 We want to solve our problems in the simplest possible way,
最著名的网站 the most reputable web,
这和最方便的方法是不同的 and that's different than the most convenient way.
最方便的方法 the most convenient way,
例如 for example,
像这样的射击 on a shot like this,
如果我仔细看这张漂亮的照片 if I look at it nicely shot image,
我现在已经设置了颜色管理我们在之前的镜头中讨论过它 I've now set up the color management that we were talking about it in the prior shot.
但是我们有点热 But we are a little hot.
我们有点辣 Were a little spicy,
成熟 ripe,
和 and.
如果我的当事人告诉我 If my client were to tell me,
我希望你不要曝光 I want you to drop the exposure,
也许这个房间里的每个人都知道他们可能会做什么 probably every one of us in this room has some idea of what they might do.
我们可能会使用一些原色或hdr调色板的组合 We would probably reach for some combination of our primaries or of our hdr palette.
在这里 Here,
也许是我们定制的曲线 maybe maybe our custom curves.
我们可能会从这三个东西中的一个开始 We'd probably go to one of those three things as a starting point,
我们不会错的 and we wouldn't be wrong,
但我想说明的是这些不一定是最简单的解 but I just want to be clear that those are not necessarily the simplest possible solution.
这些是最方便的解 Those are the most convenient solution.
有一个最明显的解决方案就像我们在给图像科学评分时看到的图像科学能帮助我们发现的最简单的可能的解决方案 There are the most obvious solution that are sort of like up front it to us when we are grading what image science can help us discover is that the simplest possible solution to this what image science tells us.
最简单的解决方案是在线性音调曲线内应用增益 The simplest possible solution to this task is is to apply gain inside of a linear tone curve.
我们来看看它是什么样的 So let's just take a look at what that would look like.
我要把我的 I'm going to switch my.
我把这个结点上的音调曲线称为线性 What resolve calls gamma what I will call a tone curve on this node to linear.
我要回到我的初选 And I'm going to go back to my primaries.
我打算放弃我的游戏 And I'm just going to drop my game.
因为 And because,
我们说过 as we said,
最好的解决方案是最简单的 the best solution is the simplest one possible,
现在举证的责任在其他任何事情上了 the burden of proof is now on anything else.
除了这个 其他任何东西都可以让我的形象看起来很好来解决这个问题 我要么为自己感到痒 要么被我的客户给了某种中和或减少我的曝光 It's on anything other than this to make my image look good to address that note that I've either felt the itch for myself or been given by my client of sort of neutralizing or dropping my exposure.
我想这样做 I want to do it like this,
如果还有别的事 and if there's something more,
这是必须要做的 that needs to be done,
它需要证明自己比一个简单的 it needs to prove itself as being more useful to me than a simple,
线性操作 linear gain operation,
让我们在这里停顿一下 and lets really jam here for a second,
我将向你们展示我们如何将这个想法进一步发展 and I'm going to show you guys how we can take this idea even a little bit further.
如果我们进行完全相同的操作 If we take that exact same operation.
我们应用2的幂 And we applied in powers of two.
我们现在有站点 We have stops so now.
除了最干净的 in addition to having the cleanest,
简单的可能的解决方案 simplest possible solution,
我们有一个解决方案 我们正在大规模实施 这对与我们一起工作的人有意义 不仅仅是色彩师 we have a solution that we are implementing on a scale that's meaningful to the people were working with not just colorists,
所以我们可以说 so we can say,
嘿 Hey,
让我们从这张图片中删除一站 let's trim one stop from this image.
我正在从这张照片上剪下一站就像关闭镜头一样 I am trimming exactly one stop from this image in the same way that shutting the lens down,
当我拍摄这张照片的时候 一站可能会让我屈服 one stop might have yielded me when I was shooting this on the day.
这是标准化可以给我们的第二件事或者说简化的第二件事是我们也可以标准化度规 So that's kind of the second thing that that this standardization can give us or simplification I should say is we can also standardized the metric as well,
让它成为我们这边最干净 最能交流的方法吗 and have it be the cleanest and most communicative possible manipulation that we might make on our end?
所有人都听明白了吗 沃尔特 我有失去什么人吗 Everybody with me so far, walter, am I losing anybody?
也许吧 但你可以继续 所以你才会来这里 好吗 好交易 是的 顺便说一句 男人不会像我的 我的 Um, probably, but you can keep going, that's why you're out here, okay? Good deal. Yeah. And and by the way, guys don't sweat it like my, my, uh,
我今晚向你们展示的所有东西都是为了拓展你们的想象力和告诉你们什么是可能的 Intent with everything that I'm showing you guys tonight is to sort of expand your imaginations and talk to you about what's possible.
我不期望有人会看这个并且能够重现我今晚给你们看的任何东西那将会很酷 如果你们想要的话 应该联系我 但这并不一定 I don't expect that anybody's going to watch this and be able to go and recreate anything that I'm showing you tonight that would be cool, and you should hit me up if you do. but that's not necessarily.
你需要从这里学到的是 我想告诉你更多不同的思考方法 而不是不同的葡萄方法 What you need to take away from this, I want to show you more different ways to think than different ways to grape.
这就是我们 呃 关于曝光的对话 我们将在这个简化的操作中走得更远一些 我将看看我建立的另一个工具 叫做点 So that's our, uh, kind of exposure conversation, and we're going to go even a little bit further with this simplified operation, and I'm going to look at this other tool that I've built called Points.
现在一个点只是六分之一的停止点 但它也被应用在这个线性音调曲线中 它只是一个清晰的增益运算 所以 Now a point is just one sixth of a stop, but it's also being applied in this linear tone curve, and it's just a clean gain operation. So.
我们会用这个工具直观地看到 首先 用全局滑动条 没什么特别的 哦 我想知道我打破了我的 We're going to see visually here with this tool, first of all, with my, uh, global slider here. Nothing is a terribly different, oh, I wondered that I break my.
我的工具 在我继续之前我正在编码 我不敢相信如果我真的在 My tool, I was coding right before I went on, and I cannot believe if I actually did it on a.
实时工具 但我可能已经做过了 让我们来看看 Live tool, but I might very well have done that. Let's see.
好吧 这样吧 我们走吧 稍等一下 让我们来看看这个传统的 可靠的版本 我将继续 OK, tell you what, let's go to hang tight. One second, let's go to a legacy, reliable version of this, and I will continue on.
好吧 我们来想象一下这部分 我会给你们看接下来更酷的部分 OK, well, we'll have to imagine that part, and I'll show you the even cooler part that follows it.
但基本上 我认为 当他们改变结果的时候 17 一些代码有点混乱因为我还有dc t 其他的 But basically, I-I-I think, uh, when they change the results, seventeen, some of the code got a little bit messed up because I also have D. c. t. else.
他们十七岁之前都很正常 所以 They were working perfectly fine before seventeen, so.
我不怕 Not afraid of that.
没错 你说得很对 从16岁到17岁的转变过程中有些事情发生了变化 虽然这次 我担心是我的 Yeah, you're absolutely right, some things got bumped in the the transition from sixteen to seventeen, although in this case, I fear it's my.
喜欢修补它 也许是罪魁祸首 Penchant for for tinkering that. Maybe the culprit here.
但无论如何 这并不是一个难以想象的概念 如果我们把 But in any case, this is not a difficult concept to imagine. If we take.
我们刚刚做的是 将2的幂的线性增益应用到我们的图像上 同时应用到三个红 绿 蓝通道上 What we were just doing, which is applying linear gain in powers of two to our image, to all three red, green, blue channels at once.
我们用同样的方法 细分每一个2的幂 所以我们有六分之一的停顿 We take that same idea, subdivide each of those powers of two, so we have one sixth of a stop.
我们把它分别应用到红色 绿色和蓝色的通道上 我们有一个度规 And we apply it individually to red, green and blue channels. We have a metric that's been around.
几乎和电影诞生的时间一样长 而且它是一个很容易被其他人理解的东西 如果我的 Almost as long as movies have been around, and it's one that is incredibly easy for others to pick up on. So if my.
工具已经为你们工作了 你们会看到视觉结果几乎没有区别 像做一个胶印点 Tool had been working for you guys just now, you would have seen that the visual results are almost indistinguishable from doing something like an offset printer points.
唯一的区别是 人们不是试图向别人解释 The only difference is that instead of people trying to explain to people.
23 95和23 15之间的差在我的偏置轮的绿色通道中 我可以说 我认为我们应该把绿色去掉大约0 5点 The difference between 23.95 and 23.15 in my green channel on my offset wheel, I can say, I think we should take about a half a point of green out of that.
只要稍加练习 即使他们以前从未听说过这些术语 他们也能接受 因为它不需要专业知识 所以 And with a little bit of practice, even if they've never heard those terms before, they can come to terms with it because it doesn't require specialized knowledge, so that's.
有两件事 第一 我觉得杰森 你的麦克风还开着实际上 为了简化 Two things, one, uh, I think Jason, you just have the microphone still on, um it, actually, you know, in order of simplifying.
数学上是正确的 当然 你想要线性光 Mathematically correct, absolutely, you wanna be in linear light.
但在内部 解决当地民族空间的偏移 这实际上是一个很好的近似 也是一个很简单的方法 But within, resolve the offset in a local ethnic space. It's actually a pretty good approximation, and still a very simple way to do it.
你说的很对 这是一个很好的方法 对于你们中的任何一个人来说就像你的偏移轮在一个原木空间里 就像沃尔特说的 那将是 You are absolutely right, and that's a great way for any of you guys to start like your offset wheel within a log space, as Walter says, that's going to be.
当你通过7或9个显示器的镜头看它的时候 它将几乎无法区分 这是一个非常干净 非常简单的工作方式 所以也是一个好地方 By the time you're looking at it through the lens of a seven or nine display, it's going to be virtually indistinguishable. It's a very clean, very simple way to to work, so also a great place to.
试着把你的方法简化一点 Begin trying to simplify your methodology a little bit.
哦 Uh,
再深入一点 因为我们现在要 我要先把我们的方法简化一下 我要 And just to go kind of one further, because we're now off of, I'm gonna move off of simplifying our methodology for a second, and I'm just gonna.
重复这个平衡的话题 因为我觉得很有趣 所以不要太疯狂 Riff on this balancing subject because I find it interesting. So without getting super crazy.
正常的 红的 绿的 蓝的空间 就像我们刚才在融合中看到的立方体 The normal, red, green, blue space, like the cube that we were looking at over in fusion a moment ago.
这是 That is.
我们在图像科学中所说的颜色空间或颜色模型 在感知上是不统一的 A color space, or a color model, which we say in image science, is not perceptually uniform.
这意味着如果我添加一些 如果我把图像的绿色增加50% 根据RGB颜色模型中的数字 Meaning that if I add some, if I, if I make the image 50% more green, according to the numbers in an RGB color model.
这对我来说没有感知上的关联 它不一定看起来多了50%的颗粒 That will not perceptually correlate for me, it won't necessarily look 50% more grain.
所以在RGB颜色模型中保持平衡是所有色彩师都习惯的 我们也知道如何处理 我们对它有一种直觉 So balancing inside of an RGB color model is something that all colorists just get used to, and we figure out how to kind of work with. And we develop an intuition for it.
但有趣的是 这是图像科学支持我们的另一种方式 But interestingly, this is another way that image science can support us.
我们可以把东西映射到所谓的LMS颜色模型 We can map things into what's called an LMS color model.
LMS是我们眼睛内部的长 中 短锥 与RGB不同 LMS, being the long, medium and short cones inside of our eyes, which, unlike RGB,
是均匀的 特别是当我在处理一个控制面并且我在移动我的增益时 Is perceptually uniform, so especially if I am working with a control surface and I am moving my gain.
例如 在右边 Down to the right, for example.
我将得到一个更均匀的响应 它和红 绿 蓝很相似 LMS大致对应 I'm going to get a more perceptually uniform response. It's going to be very similar to red, green and blue, LMS roughly correspond.
红 绿 蓝 但我将得到一个更均匀的反应 这是一种 To red, green and blue, but I'm going to get a more perceptually uniform response. So that's just kind of a.
让我们谈谈我之前忍不住提到的平衡问题 我 Tangent on the the balancing subject that I couldn't resist touching on before. I.
继续 这只是另一个有趣的例子 再说一遍 你们不需要去寻找一种方法在你们的工作流程中实现LMS 但它更只是 Move on, so it's just another fun example, again, you guys don't need to go out and find a way to implement LMS in your workflows tomorrow, but it's more just.
让你思考的概念 比如 当你开始学习图像科学并成为一名图像科学的学生时 我在过去的几年里就变成了这样 Concepts for you to think about in terms of, like, when you start to learn image science and become a student of it, which I have very much become in the last few years.
有很多很酷的想法和机会在等着你 你可能会在你的工作中发现有用的东西 There's just cool ideas and cool opportunities out there waiting for you that you might find useful inside of your workload.
好吧 All right.
最后 我想谈一些可能是在座各位最感兴趣的事情 Finally, I want to talk about something that may be the most interesting to everybody here.
我想谈谈模拟外观 模拟图像 以及模拟过程 了一会儿 I want to talk about emulating looks, emulating images, and also emulating processes. For a moment,
我们可能都意识到了 正如我们今天早些时候演示的那样 So we may have all realized at a certain point, and we actually saw, as we demoed earlier today,
如果我想做一个我称之为地面匹配的东西如果我的客户给我一个参考图像 我说 好吧 我想 That if I'm looking to make what I would call a ground level match if my client brings me a reference image. And I say, okay, I want to.
博罗 我想引用一下我在这张照片里看到的表情 我要试着 Borrow, I want to quote from the look that I'm seeing in this image, and I'm going to try to.
把这些特点中的一些运用到我正在塑造的形象中 我是我是 我被雇来打分 Take some of those characteristics and apply them to the image that I'm working on, that I'm I'm. I've been hired to grade.
当我们创造这样的地面关卡比赛时 也就是一枪对一枪 我们最终将获得地面关卡比赛 这可能会有效也可能不会有效 When we make ground level matches like that, meaning one shot to one shot, we are going to end up with ground level matches, which may or may not carry.
在其他两枪之间 所以我们真的不是 Between any other two shots. So we're really not.
捕捉所使用的外观或过程的本质 我们只是在进行本地化 Capturing the essence of the look or the process that was used. We're just getting a localized.
这是过程的表面复制 或者是结果的表面复制 Sort of a surface level replication of the processes, or of the and results, rather that were achieved.
所以我们能做的更好的方法是 嗯 实现特定的外观 因为我们可以模拟过程 So a better way that we can go about, UH, achieving certain looks, as we can actually model processes.
我们大多数人可能最熟悉的方式是使用印刷 电影模拟 很多好的血统或好的遗产 我们知道来自一个可靠的来源 And the way that most of us are probably the most familiar with this is to use a print, filmimulation, lot of good pedigree or good legacy that we know comes from a reliable source.
我这么做已经很多年了 And I've done this for years.
如果我放下这个 让曲线工具在这里 我会把它翻转到它的默认模式 So if I drop this, let curves tool on here, I'm going to flip it into its default mode of just.
为我应用了很多 实际上 让我们去一个新的图像 更多的是一种中间曝光只是为了好玩 如果我在这里 Apply the lot for me and actually, let's go to a new image, which is more a kind of middle exposed just for fun. So if I go on here.
用这个 这是柯达 23 93的经典股票 And apply this, this is just a Kodak, twenty three, ninety three classic stock.
这已经被改编为一个通风的原木 海洋颜色的空间 所以不是坐着登陆返回7或9 而是吸入logC 返回logC That has been adapted for an airy log, sea color space. So instead of taking sitting on log in and returning seven or nine, it's taking airy log C in and returning airy log C.
这很酷 这个工具我已经用了很多年了 So that's kind of cool. That's a tool that I've used for a number of years.
但有趣的是 我们可以利用图像科学 But what's interesting is that we can use image science.
为了更好地了解这些 我们所说的经验模型 是在做经验的 实际测量的数据 所以任何方法 To get a better window into what these, what we call empirical models, are doing empirical, being actual measured data. So the way that any.
传统的印刷 制版都要做得很好 Traditional print, filmingulation lot is going to work.
你要取一个已知的数据集 比如一个简单的例子 就是一个颜色检查器 一个有已知值的颜色检查器图表 Is, you're going to take a known data set, like a simple example, would be a color checker, a color checker chart that have known values.
你要用底片拍摄 然后把它印成胶片 再投射出来 然后你要捕捉到颜色检查器的区别 You're going to shoot it with a film negative and then print it to film and then project it, and then you're going to capture the difference between what that color checker.
最初是 它显示的是从投影屏幕上出来的 这就是大致的方式 你知道 不同的打印胶片仿真堆 是建立的 Originally was, and what it's showing up is coming off of that projected screen, and that's the way roughly that, you know, different print film emulation lots are, are built.
这很酷 只是给你们一个概念 真光法使用一个9乘9乘9的 That's cool, just to give you an idea, the the true light method use a nine by nine by nine, um,
页数或一千页以上都是32个黑白步骤 Series of pages or a thousand pages plus are full, thirty two um steps of black and white.
就像你说的 你填好我的表格 打印出来 你做投影仪灯的模型 这样食物就能辨别了 Like you say, you fill me out, you print it out, you model the projector lamp, you know, so the food spattrometrical.
测量项目或任何项目 给你一个很好的起点 真正的魔术 Measurement project or any, give you a pretty good starting point of a real magic.
当然 当它被正确地处理时 就像你刚才提到的那样 你会得到一个很好的匹配 有趣的是 多年来我发现的有趣的是 Absolutely it will when it, when it's done correctly, as in the case you just mentioned, you'll get a very nice match to that. What's interesting and what I've found interesting over the years is that.
你会得到一个很好的匹配 你最终会匹配这个特定系统的问题和有益的方面 You will get such a good match that you're going to end up matching both the problematic and the beneficial aspects of that particular system.
实际上 丹 电影 光 里的黄色 他说了很多当他说到光源的不同外观时 And actually, uh, dan, yellow from Uh film, light, talks about this a lot when he's talking about the way that different looks for the Baselight or built.
所以我觉得很有趣的是 具体来说 我接下来要给你们看的是我花了 So what I find really interesting, and specifically, what I'm going to show you guys next is I've spent.
太长了 分析 Way too long. Analyzing.
这里 切换到织布机和lo模式 This right here. Let's go to my loom versus lo mode.
我花了太多时间分析你们看到的这条曲线 I've spent way too long analyzing this curve that you guys are looking at right here.
好的 我们有滚动的膝盖或脚趾 我们有滚动的肩膀 我们有一些频道的交叉对话 比如底部的蓝色推送 Okay, we've got a rolling knee or toe, we've got a rolling shoulder, and we've got some sort of channel cross talk of, like Blue Push in the bottom.
在顶部轻轻推一下 好吧 And a warmer push in the top, like, okay.
很酷 我花了很多很多年做我刚才描述的事情 你们是在工作 从坐在木头上回到七 九 三页 Cool, and I've spent many, many years doing like what I just described. You guys were work, adapting that from taking sitting on log and returning like seven or nine or P. Three.
把它设置好 这样它就能接收每一个日志 看到并返回同样的东西 试图弯曲 扭曲和重新利用 这些 And setting it up so that it will take in every log, see and return the same thing, and trying to sort of bend and contort and repurpose. These.
我的应用程序需要经验数据集 Uh, like empirical sets of data to work for My application.
所以我想做的是 我接下来要给你们展示的是 我想要建模 特别是 只有一个D曲率的传统胶片的一面 So what I wanted to do, and what I'm going to show you guys next, is I wanted to model, specifically, just the one D curvature side of a traditional film print.
我想对我认为最理想的特征建模 而不需要一些问题更大的特征 比如 I wanted to model the characteristics that I find most desirable without some of the more problematic characteristics, such as the fact that.
尽我所能 用传统的印刷胶片 仿真 很多 Try as I might, with a traditional print film, emulation, lot.
我真的没有办法让它爬得比你们看到的高很多 差不多80%或者差不多 就像 There's not really a way for me to get it to climb much higher than you guys see here, kind of around 80% or the equivalent, in, like a.
P-Q HDR 700到800个针织品的空间 真的没有办法让它爬得比这个高得多 同时又不影响仿真剩下部分的完整性 P-Q, HDR, space of like, seven, eight hundred knits, there's really not a way to make it climb much higher than that without compromising the integrity of the rest of the emulation.
我希望能够做到这一点 尽管 我希望能够模仿电影中我喜欢的部分 但我也希望能够一路爬到一千个网 或者10000个网 或者任何我想做的事情 I want to be able to do that, though, I want to be able to emulate the parts that I like about film, but I also want to be able to climb all the way to A thousand nets or 10000 or whatever I want to do.
还有其他方面 很多 我们知道 都是基于样本数据的 所以从字面上来说 And there's, there's other aspects as well, lots, as we know, are based on sample data, so it's literally.
大多数lut的应用都是在测量数据点之间的猜测 所以我想提出我称之为合成打印曲线的东西 The majority of any lut being applied is guesses in between measured data points, so I wanted to come up with what I'm calling a synthetic print curve.
这样我就可以重新创造出我想要的特征 跳过那些不喜欢的特征 然后完成所有的工作 That allows me to recreate the desired characteristics, leap behind the undesired characteristics, and do it all with.
浮点精度在高动态范围内自然地发挥良好 就像生活环境 我想打断你一下 Floating point precision that plays natively nice inside of a high dynamic range, like live environment. I want to stop you for a second, yeah,
因为不幸的是 有很多地方 比如互联网 他们卖给你很多笑话 Because unfortunately, there is a lot of places around, you know, internet, they sell you the joke a lot, the whatever lot.
这些不是真正完整的印刷 但这是一个人试图艺术地复制一个外观 Those are not really full print, emolation, but this is somebody artistically try to reproduce a look.
所以我们必须区分这是Print真正做的和 So we have to make a distinction between this is really what Print was doing versus.
这是对外观的艺术模拟 This is some artistic emulation of a look.
我认为你说得很对 这种张力和找到这两个极端之间的位置是你想要创造性地创作的关键问题之一 I think you're so right about that, and it's that that tension and kind of finding where between those two poles you want to plot creatively is one of the key questions For.
任何想要模拟的人 例如 以我为例 我用的不是 沃尔特说的 一种随意的 Anybody who is trying to do emulation, for example, so for my example, I'm using rather than, as Walter says, kind of an arbitrary, like.
创造性的解释 我至少看到了测量数据然后说 好吧 这是基于高质量的 呃 Creative interpretation, I'm at least looking at the measured data and saying, okay, this is based on a high quality, uh,
Printlet从一个23 93良好的血统 我知道是来自一个可靠的来源 Printlet from a twenty three, ninety three of good pedigree that I know is coming from a reliable source.
我将试图重新创造这个 至少作为我的起点 在我的合成曲线工具中 以一对一的方式 And I'm going to seek to recreate this, at least as my starting point, in a one to one way inside of my synthetic curve tool Here.
然后我再决定 And then I can decide.
我想保留多少 我想离开多远 但这是如此真实 它是不够的 仅仅看到一些东西 复制它 然后说 How much or little of that I wish to preserve, how far from it I wish to depart But it's so true that it's, it's not enough to simply see something and copy it and say, well,
它看起来是这样的 所以我要让我的看起来是这样的 例如 我已经做了小丑Lot 它不是那样工作的 同时 当我们开始我们的对话 It looked like that, so I'm going to make mine look like that, and I've now made the Joker Lot, for example, it just doesn't work that way. At the same time, as we started our conversation with.
建立一个一对一版本的模型是有局限性的 There's a limitation to getting hyper discipline about modeling a one to one version of something that.
比如说 我们的目的和电影印刷的初衷不一样 所以我觉得我们要进行一场有趣的谈判 只要那不是 We have a different intent for than a film print was ever designed to do, for example, so I think there's A-A fun, uh, a negotiation to be made there. And as long as that's not being.
伴随着虚假的声明 嘿 这是这是小丑的Lot 就像我们说的 或者这不是什么 那么这就是公平竞争 这是所有 Accompanied by false claims that, hey, this is this is the Joker Lot, as we said, or this is something that it's not, then it's all fair play. It's all.
创造性 创造性的沃土 Creative, creatively fertile territory.
我会很快地给你们介绍这条曲线 我做的这条曲线 叫做合成印花 So I'll walk you guys real quickly through this curve that I, this curve that I built, rather called synthetic print.
这是基于一个非常聪明的人在电子游戏工程领域的工作 他叫JohnHagel That is based on the work of a really smart guy in the video game engineering field named John Hagel.
约翰·哈格尔为他的电子游戏开发了这条曲线 实际上 因为他想要得到它被称为电影色调映射 他想 John Hagel developed this curve for his video games, actually, because he wanted to get it was literally called filmic tone mapping, and he wanted to get.
胶片印刷的关键特征 就是我们讨论过的这个深趾 这个滚动的肩膀和其他一些我现在要讲的东西 The key characteristics of a film print, which are this deep toe that we talked about, this rolling shoulder and some of the other things that I'm going to go through right Now.
如果我给你们看一下这条曲线的行为 它当然都是动态的 所以我可以在大于0的地方设一个黑点 这是任何曲线的一个关键特征 So if I kind of walk you through the behavior of this curve, it's of course all dynamics, so I can set a black point somewhere above zero, which is a key characteristic of any.
胶片 印刷运气 我可以模仿一个特定的lut的黑点试图剽窃它 或者我可以创造我自己的 只要我不声称这是拍摄的 这是公平竞争 Film, print luck, I can mimic the exact black point of a particular lut from trying to rip it off, or I can create my own, as long as I don't claim that this is filmed, And that's fair Play.
我可以把脚趾设得任意深 任意浅 我可以让它延伸得更远或更深 I can set my toe as deeper, as shallow as I want, I can make it extend further or deeper into the graph.
我的肩膀也一样 我想卷多少就可以卷多少 Same thing on my shoulder, I can set up however much roll I want.
我喜欢我在这里使用的一些参数是因为这辆车是在线性空间中工作的 What I like about a number of the parameters that I'm using here is because this car is working natively in a linear space.
其中很多都是自我表达然后停止 所以我的肩膀力量告诉我 A lot of these are expressing themselves and stops, so my shoulder strength is literally telling me.
我在中灰上方停了多少个站才发现我们之前没有到达所以现在 答案是 How many stops above Middle Grey am I rolling into the signal that we're not there before So right now, that answer is.
2 2停止或2 1停止 2.2 stops or 2.1 stops.
肩长也可以以同样的方式调整 肩角 我们到达顶峰的幅度 Shoulder length can be adjusted in the same way, shoulder angle, how sharply or shallowly we're coming into our peak here.
我的天花板是可调节的 所以如果我想要那种非常传统的胶片 呃 白点 我不能到达容器的顶部 我可以这样做 My ceiling is adjustable, so if I want to get that very traditional kind of film, uh, white point where I'm, I'm not quite reaching the top of the container, I can do that.
最后几个特性可能是我最感兴趣的 And these last couple features are the ones that I may be the most fired up about.
所以我们有了我们的分力 我可以说 好吧 你想要底部有多冷 你想要顶部有多热 我可以清晰地表达出来 So we have our splittown strength, where I can say, okay, how much cool do you want in the bottom How much warm do you want on the top And I can articulate that.
我想怎样就怎样 我也可以决定 好吧 那是什么鸡尾酒 今晚我们已经听到很多不同的艺术家提到过了 To whatever degree I wish, and I can also decide, okay, what is that cocktail We've heard a number of different artists tonight already mentioned.
不同的冷色组合在底部 暖色组合在顶部 我也想这么做 Different combinations of cool colors in the bottom and warm colors in the top. So do I want to do.
更纯的蓝色 我想做更多纯绿色的东西吗 More of a pure blue thing, do I want to do more of a pure green thing?
我不想在两者之间做交易 我可以把这个点画在我想要的任何地方 Don't want to do a deal somewhere between, I can kind of chart that point wherever I wish.
上面的同样的东西 我想要一个更明显的 更金黄的黄色 或者我想要一直像一个绿色 我不会 And same thing on the top do I want more of a ready, highlight, more of a goldy yellow, or do I want to go all the way to like a green, which I wouldn't.
通常推荐 Normally recommend.
这有点像 我们表述这些变量的方式 最后 我很高兴听到 That's kind of like the, the way we can articulate those variables. And finally, I was so glad to hear.
你们俩都提到了沃尔特和吉尔 你们不太喜欢定制曲线 因为 Both of you guys mention Walter and Jill, that you're not the biggest fans of the custom curves, because.
我喜欢自定义曲线的想法 你们可以看到 这实际上是一条自定义曲线 I love the idea of the custom curves, as you guys can see here, this is effectively a custom curve.
但是我也不能用它 我不能让它工作 But I can't use it either. I can't make it work.
我最纠结的一个方面 或者说我最纠结的一个方面 And one of the ways that I struggle with it, or one of the aspects of it that I struggle the most with.
就像吉尔说的 我想确保我的色彩管理链中的每一个环节 Is, just like Jill said, I want to make really, really sure that every single link in the chain of my color management pipeline.
保留中灰 就像中间曝光一样 Is preserving middle grey, so like whatever middle exposure is.
如果我做了很多 或者肯定是在为一部电影做最后的评分 我不想移动那一英寸 我想要保留 不惜一切代价 其他的一切都需要转移 If I'm making a lot or certainly doing the final grade for a film, I don't want to move that an inch, I want to be preserved, at all costs. Everything else needs to move.
在我的中间 是沙砾 这个曝光锁定滑块就是这样做的 它实际上是动态分析我所做的一切 Around my middle, grit, and so this exposure lock slider is doing exactly that. It is actually dynamically analyzing everything that I'm doing.
它在中间 灰色的曲线上运行 得到结果 然后说 好 这是我需要补偿的整体 And it's running middle, gray through the curve, getting the result and saying, okay, here's how I need to compensate the overall.
就像这条曲线的斜率 为了确保中灰客栈总是总是总是等于中灰 Like slope of this curve, in order to ensure that Middle Gray inn is always always always going to equal Middle Gray out.
所以它的集合是1 它保证了中等成绩的完美保存 不管我做什么 So that's with its set to a one that's ensuring me that middle grades like perfectly preserved, no matter what else I.
在我的合成曲线里面 Might do here, inside of My synthetic curve.
很明显 图表上的每个人都说 我赢了这个D-C-TelseNow Now obviously, everybody in the in the chart say, I've won this D-C-T else Now.
我们的想法是 如果你刚开始 很明显你没有这些工具 The idea is, you know, if you're starting and obviously you don't have those tools,
你可以从曲线开始 You can start with the curves.
当然 我喜欢用曲线的一件事是你可以做得太过了 然后再用盲法混合 这样就可以了 Absolutely, and one thing that I'd like in using curve is that you can overdo in it, and then with the blind blended back, so will give you.
一个更直观的表示 我做过头了 但我知道我要把它拉回来 A much more visual representation of, I'm over doing this, but I know I'm going to pull it back.
我给了训练的抢手 红Alexa的三帧和 And I give to, um, the tackers of training, three frames from Alexa Red and the.
嗯 索尼 有16格曝光的彩色空间 其中18%的灰色轻松 Uh, sony, there has the sixteen stop exposure of the color space, where the 18% grey ease.
这样他们就可以穿过空地 看清楚你在说什么 我是不是把格蕾的80%从它应该在的地方移开了 So they can actually pass through the lot and see exactly what you're saying. Am I moving 80% Grey away from where it should be?
当然 这是个很好的解决方案 而且绝对是 Absolutely, that's A-A great solution, and absolutely where.
我们都应该开始 这是我开始的地方 像这样的工具没有意义 也没有用处 除非你有 We should all start, that's where I started, and tools like this don't make sense and are not useful until you have.
让我提醒大家 我们说的是18%的分数 只是因为在片场 Let me remind everybody, we talk about 18% grade, just because on the set there is.
每一点灯光都是在这里完成的 每一次曝光的关键 光 阴影的填充 The anchor where every single bits of lighting is done, every single exposure to the and the key, the light, the fill the shadow.
就像收音机一样反对这一点 这就是为什么我们要在整个链条中尽可能地保存它 Is done as a radio against that point. That's why we want to preserve that throughout the whole chain as much as we can.
完全正确 而且 这是其中一件事 That's absolutely right, and it's. It's one of the things that is the.
我们在整个过程中所能注意到的最好的事情之一就是确定一个基线 我是让小格雷保持在它应有的位置 还是我有意地喜欢 One of the best things that we can pay attention to throughout our process is just making sure at a baseline, am I keeping little Gray where it belongs Or am I intentionally like.
想要 呃 给予 Wanting to, uh, give.
反馈给我的拍照者 如果我拍了很多 我要给他们反馈吗 这会让他们 Feedback to my send photographer I'm making, if I'm making a lot, do I want to give them feedback That is going to make them.
不断地提升或降低他们的形象 这比你不想喜欢的东西要先进得多 不打招呼就溜进去 Constantly push their image up or push it down. That's much more advanced than something that you would never want to like, slip in without talking to.
你的制作团队 但这是你想搬到其他地方的唯一背景 但完美地复制了 中产阶级 正如沃尔特所说 是的 Your production team about, but that would be the only context in which you would want to move anywhere else, but perfectly reproducing Middlegrade, as Walter says, yep.
所以你们知道 我还会提到另一件事 关于建模过程 因为我觉得这很有趣 So you know that that's, I'll touch on one more thing, kind of about modeling processes, just because I think it's fun and again,
在这个意义上 建模过程是 嗯 取的想法 Modeling processes in this sense being UH, the idea of taking.
实证数据和运用分析手段再现 沃尔特提出了一个很好的观点 我想在这里再强调一下 Empirical data and applying analytical measures to reproduce it. So the Walter made a good point that I just want to reemphasize here.
这不是电影 This is not a film.
打印的运气 这不像 Print luck. This is not like.
对我来说 这和你从侧写中得到的行为是一样的 我创造了我想要的 留下了我不想要的 The exact same behavior that you're going to get out of any legacy piece of profiling that to me is the point, I've recreated what I want and left a side what I don't want.
但它的基本功能和来源与传统的PFF有很大的不同 But it is different in terms of its fundamental function and source than a traditional PFF, lot would be.
最后我要给你们展示的是 如果我回到我正在玩的这个工具 第二个 一个女孩 可能我们还不太明白 And the last thing that I'll kind of show you guys along these same lines is, you know, if I go back to this lot tool that I was playing with, the second, a girl that maybe doesn't make much sense to us yet.
基线 它只是应用了很多 所以你知道 whoopdedo 我可以在解决 And it's baseline. It's just applying a lot, so you know, whoop de do I can do that within resolve.
但我发现 我使用这个工具的目的 我设计它的目的 是给我一扇窗户 But what I find, what I use this tool, for, what I designed it to do, is to give me a window into.
很多次的行为 而不是让我把所有的都看在脸上 因为让我们面对它 这是很多次的挑战之一 它们是黑色的 四四方方的 有一些有趣的 Sub behaviors of a lot, without making me take the entire lot on its face, because let's face it, that's one of the challenges of lots, is that they're kind of black, boxy. There's some interesting.
取一部分的方法 我想 就像汤姆提到的 我们可以 Ways to take a portion of them, or, I think, as Tom mentioned, we can.
就像 把亮度和色度成分从它们中分离出来然后试着 Sort of like, uh, separate out the luminance and chrominants components from them and try to.
只用那些作品 但这些都是挑战和我们必须努力去做的事情 Use just those pieces, but those are all challenges and things that, uh, we have to kind of work at to do.
默认情况下 它们是一个黑盒你把它放到上面 你有一种整体的力量你可以应用它 但你没有 By default, they're a black box you drop it on, and you have kind of an overall strength that you can apply it in, but you don't really have.
了解我们控制这些子行为的能力 这就是我为自己开发的工具 如果我去一个像 Insight into our ability to control these sub behaviors within the lot, but that's what I've developed this tool for for myself. So if I go to something like the.
SAT和SAT模式 SAT versus SAT mode.
我现在可以看类似于 我们在SAT和SAT中看到的约束和决心 And I-I can now look at similar to, like what we would see in our SAT versus sat curb and resolve.
我可以在我选择的亮度下扫过图像中的所有色调 I can sweep through all of the hues in my image at any luminance that I choose.
我可以看到这个胶片打印的方式是处理进入饱和度和映射到输出饱和度 And I can see the way that this film print lot is treating incoming saturations and mapping them into output saturation.
这本身就是一种迷人而美丽的视觉效果 只要看看 哇 它在做所有这些 Which is kind of a fascinating and beautiful visual in and of itself, just to look at, wow, it's doing all that.
不同的东西在这些不同的色调和亮度水平贯穿整个立方体 这很酷 Different stuff at these different hue and luminous levels throughout the cube. That's kind of cool.
但我们也可以用它来推导一个解析模型 But we can also use that again to derive an analytic model.
用类似SAT合成曲线的东西 它和我做的合成打印曲线很接近 这基本上允许我 Using something like a this synthetic SAT curve, which is close to this synthetic print curve that I made. That basically just allows me to.
模仿 在 Mimic that. In.
更有控制的方式 所以我可以放弃这个 A bit more of a controlled way, so I can drop that.
如果我想的话 我可以在上面放一个肩膀 我至少可以模拟出一些子行为 如果不是 Sealing way down, I can put a shoulder on if I want, and I can model out at least some of those sub behaviors, if not the.
整个地块的立方体行为 这对我来说是另一个 Entirety of the cubic behavior of the lot. And that to me is the other.
这个工具的实用之处在于它向我展示了试图重新创造是多么的封建 Real, like utility of this tool is it shows me just how feudal it is to actually try to recreate.
每一寸土地 都要用到工具 没有办法做到 因为你看有多少 Every inch of a lot, using, uh, the tools for the result. There's just no way to do it, because look at how much.
这是一个移动的目标 因为我扫过不同的色调和亮度是整个我的图像 这是一个 This is a moving target as I sweep through different hues and luminance is throughout my image. So that's a.
我最近在研究的一些想法和有趣的小发明 Couple of ideas and fun gizmos that I've been working with lately in terms of.
建模出来 或者看得更清楚 这样我就可以 Modeling out or getting a better glimpse into lots so that I can.
想出我自己的看法 Come up with my own take on them.
但不需要完全从头开始说 好吧 它看起来像这样 也许我可以试试 有更多的起点 But without just completely starting from scratch and saying, well, it looks like this, so maybe I'll try that, having a bit more of a starting point to go off of.
所以我们的想法是 当你知道传统的lot 当我们使用 当我们必须匹配打印 尝试真正模仿打印 So the idea is, while you know traditional lot, when we were using, when we have to match print, try to really mimic print.
你说 我要提取精华 You say, I want to extract the essence.
并且能够操纵本质来获得外观和感觉而不需要真正的集合 在最后 And be able to manipulate the essence to get the look and feel without a real set of that. At the end.
完全正确 完全正确 对吧 我们想要那样 本质是一个完美的词 我们想要得到 Exactly right, exactly, right? We want to get like that, the essence is a perfect word, we want to get.
事情的本质 在这个领域里有一种有趣的张力 The essence of the thing, which there's sort of a, an interesting, like tension in this field where.
我们收集的数据越细致 越准确 就越 The more discreet and detailed and accurate data points we capture, the more uh.
特质 我们也在捕捉 因为如果我们做一个非常非常高质量的描述 就像我们刚才说的 我们不仅仅是描述 Idiosycracy, we're capturing as well, because if we do a really, really high quality profile, like we talked about a minute ago, we're not just profiling.
像吉尔的父亲这样的颜色科学家在设计普林斯的负库存时想到了什么我们正在设计 我们正在建模 确切地说 What the color scientists like Jill's dad had in mind when they designed that negative stock in that Prince stock we're designing, we're modeling, rather that exact.
从生产线上下来的装置 我们正在建模 Unit that came off of the production line. And we are modeling.
这是你的错误模型 你建模了很多东西 This is your model in the error, you modeling up a lot of things.
我们模仿了所有独一无二的特质 这些特质与设计的本质毫无关系 这是几乎 Were modeling all of the the unique and idiosyncratic characteristics that really have nothing to do with the essence of what was designed. So it's almost.
这是一种尝试深入了解颜色科学家的想法的方法他们发明了这些非常美味和复杂的颜色 A way of trying to get a little further into the minds of the color scientists that developed these really, really palatable and complex color.
行为 模仿它 而不是模仿它在特定时刻 在特定管道中的特定成果 Behaviors, and uh, mimic that, as opposed to mimic the specific fruits of it in a specific moment, in an a specific pipeline.
很多人都在问同样的问题 So a lot of people are asking cover the same question, is.
如果他们 如果有人 你知道 是一个新的调色师想要学习更多关于色彩科学的知识 你有出版物吗或者你有一份书单 你知道 书或者 If they, if somebody, you know, it's a new colorist and want to learn more about color science, do you have publications or you have a list of, you know, books or.
的地方去 在哪里 Places to go. Where.
他们可以学到更多 因为这是视觉链的一个基本部分 而且没有真正解释过 They can learn a little bit more because it's a fundamental part of the visual chain, and it's not really explained anywhere.
你说得太对了 这是我多年来问过很多聪明人的问题想要更好地理解这个问题 You're so right about it. And and that's a question that I have asked so many smart people over the years to to try to get a better grip on.
这是我给你们开的处方 如果你们真的想要的话 Here would be my prescription for you guys, if you're serious about wanting to.
更好地掌握图像科学 第一个最简单的开始 就是颜色管理 这是我们所有的颜色都在20 21 Get a better grasp on image science. The first place to start at the easiest place to start, is with color management, that's where all of us as color is in 20:21.
可能与图像科学的概念有着最一致的联系 所以如果你不能完全理解 Are probably having the most consistent contact with the concepts of image science. So if you don't fully understand.
色彩管理的概念 然后从那里开始 The concepts of color management. And then from there.
所有的个人色彩管理系统 aces解决颜色管理的方式 Baselight它真的掌握了如何解决这些不同的解决方案 All of the individual color management systems, aces resolve color management the way Baselight does it really getting grasp on how these different solutions are addressing.
他们所承担的基本任务 The fundamental tasks that, uh, they are charged with.
以及他们所执行的解决方案以及作为一名美术师你所喜欢的 And the solutions that they're implementing and what you prefer as an artist.
你可以花很多时间学习这些东西 你会走得更远 发展你的色彩科学 仅仅通过学习这些东西就能收获很多 You can spend a lot of time just learning those things, and you will go far and develop your color science, chops a lot just by studying that stuff.
除此之外 And then beyond that.
你好像要跳入深渊了 我可以推荐几本我能想到的书 You're kind of going to be jumping into the deep end. So a couple of books that I can recommend off the top of my head that are.
非常密集 而且有 你知道的 一次五页 种类的书 颜色的复制是一个叫R-W-G亨特的人 Seriously dense, and there are, like, you know, five pages at a time, type of books, the reproduction of color by a guy named R-W-G Hunt.
颜色 外观 模特是一个叫马克·弗莱查尔德的人做的 他是一个伟大的基金 但有趣的是 这两本书是我现在所有的桌子上 And color, appearance, models by a guy named Mark Fairchild, the great funds. But the funny thing is that those are the two books I have all my desk right now.
我的床头柜 是吗 My, my night stand? Yeah?
它们很深奥 你知道 他们想推荐一件事如果你有这些书 不要太害怕数学 They're dense, and it, you know, one thing they want to recommend if you get these books, don't get scared about the math too much.
从概念开始 如果你得到这个垫子 它就会掉下来 Start with the concept. The mat will come if you get.
喜欢这个 从一个概念开始 他会告诉你光是如何工作的 为什么会有一个项圈 你的眼睛会做什么等等 我的意思是 In love with that, start with a concept, he will tell you how the light work, why a collar appear, what your eye does and and so forth, I mean,
不要期望不理解这个科学概念 Not to not expect to understand as this science concept.
从一开始 这是不可能的 慢慢解开 你会成功的 From the start, it's not gonna happen, take it unbied slowly, you'll get there.
当然 这是非常好的建议 对我也一直很有帮助 因为我从来没有过 Absolutely, that's such good advice, and it's also always been helpful to me, because I've never had.
我 我 我并没有暗自希望 你知道的 我能被某个机构雇佣当颜色学家 我一直都知道 I-I-I don't secretly wish that, uh, you know, I-I could be hired by some facility as the color scientist. I've always known that.
我想成为一名色彩科学家来支持我的艺术 这其实对我们来说是件好事 因为这意味着我们不需要这么做 I want to be a color scientist in support of my art, and that's actually a really good thing for us to have in mind, because it means we don't need to.
痛斥自己没有在这方面给自己一个研究生学位 如果你能做到那就太好了 但这真的很有帮助 就像 好吗 Beat ourselves up about not giving ourselves the equivalent of a graduate degree in this stuff. That's great if you can get there, but it's really helpful to anchor things in terms of, like, okay?
接下来我能学到什么来帮助我制作更好的图像 而不是我能理解多少章节的色彩复制 What can I learn next that will help me to make better images, instead of how many chapters of the reproduction of color can I get through and understand.
因为你会被这个答案吓到 我保证 哦 不 听着 我 Because you're going to be humbled by the answer, I promise, oh, no, listen, I.
我有二十年的经验 我喜欢色彩学 我读了这本书 我读得越多 我觉得我不知道我在说什么 所以 I have what twenty year of experience, and I like color science, and I read the book, and it's the more I read, I think I don't know what I'm talking about, So.
我完全同意 这也是我的经验 I completely concur, that's been my experience, too.
如果你不想分享你的机器上的任何东西 你想出去分享吗 我们做几分钟的古巴 好的 让我把它关掉 If you don't want to share anything more from your machine, do you want to get out to the share So we do a couple of minutes of Cuban, a, yeah, let me close that down.
这样我们就能看到你了 哈哈 So we can see you. HA, HA,
是的 我来了 让我看看这些问题 等等 等等 等等 呃 颜色管理 Yeah, here I am. Ah, let me see through the the questions, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, um, color management.
有简单的色彩管理 只是嗯 画图像在一个地方和使用 There is simple color management, just um, draw the image in one place and use.
一看多了也好 到头来 有王牌 有新解决 有色彩管理 A look a lot or whatever, at the end, there is aces, there is the new resolve, color management.
你有吗 嗯 Do you have? Um,
建议在简单性观点之间进行折中 同时也要达到最终的结果 A recommendation in terms of compromise between simplicity views, but also how to get to the end result.
以更优雅的方式 In a more elegant way,
好问题 这是我的建议 这是我的处方 Yeah, really good question, so here's what I would recommend. This is my, the general prescription that I offer.
从a开始 不是因为a更好 也不是因为你用a会比其他任何解决方案得到更好的结果 而是因为a有 Start with aces, not because aces is better, not because you will get better results with aces than any other solution, but because aces has.
对我来说 最简单易懂 The most for me, intelligible and simple.
提纲 像the Outline, like the The.
如果我们在颜色管理的基础上 有两个 最多三个变量总是总是需要包含在颜色管理解决方案中 我们所需要的 If we go really, really basic on color management for a second, there's two and a maximum of three variables that always always always need to be included in a color management solution. We need.
输入颜色空间 我们需要一个工作颜色空间 我们需要一个输出颜色空间 An input color space, we need a working color space, and we need an output color space.
a的有趣之处在于它只要求你给它 上面说剩下的部分我有这个 伙计 你只需要给图像打分 现在 What's fun about aces is that's really all it asks you to give it. It says the rest of it I got this, dude, you, you just have to grade the image. Now.
这很好 你可以从色彩管理管道中得到很棒的结果 事实上 我认为最理想的毕业方式是 So that's great, and you can get awesome results out of that color management pipeline. And in fact, I think the ideal way to graduate toward.
稍微 呃 更强大或定制的解决方案 例如分辨率 颜色管理 Slightly, uh, more powerful or customizable solutions like resolve, color management, for example.
就是长时间使用a 然后发现自己在撞墙 然后想 为什么我在撞墙 Is to use aces for long enough and to find yourself bumping into walls and then wonder, well, why am I bumping into that wall.
我能在ace里做些什么或者我是否需要超越 What what is there something I can do within Aces Or do I need to go beyond.
这会给你一个理想的环境来解决问题 而不是在真空中学习 And that will give you the ideal context from which to solve a problem, as opposed to just in a vacuum, learning like.
那么 当它不是一个固定和预设的事情发生在我的代表 就像在ace 现在我必须控制它与解决颜色管理 Well, how does tone mapping work when it's not a fixed and preset thing happening under the hood on my behalf like it is in Aces, and now I have to control it with resolved color management.
我该如何思考这个问题 并让自己接受这方面的教育呢 如果你从一个为你处理它的地方开始 就会容易得多 How should I think about that and get myself educated on the subject It's much easier if you start from a place of having it handled for you.
实际上 你会遇到一些需要定制解决方案的情况 And actually bump into the scenarios and circumstances where you uh need to customize your solution a bit more.
当你被问到一个完全不同的问题时 你需要 在捕捉图像时 Um, when ask you a completely different question, you need to, in capturing image.
有一种误解认为相机可以处理任何色温 Um, there is this misconception that camera can just do any color temperature in any.
曝光水平 然后你会发现有人在6400的红灯下拍摄一盏灯 蜡烛和图像看起来像 Exposure level, and then you find somebody shooting at 6400 on a red under expostory stop on a light, candle and image look like.
A 你能告诉我更多关于摄像机是如何看到图像的吗 A, can you tell a little bit more about how actually cameras see an image?
当然 这是个好问题 我希望我能摇滚起来 Yes, absolutely, this is such a good question, and I-I-I hope I'm gonna rock.
几个人的世界 至少在我接下来要分享的时候 A few people's worlds, at least when I-I share what I'm going to share next.
当我们讨论图像传感器和动态元数据时 我们说 哦 我有了红色 我可以把I-s-o设为400或者设为 When we talk about image sensors and we talk about dynamic metadata, so called, so, when we say like, oh, I've got my red, I can set my I-S-O at 400 or I can set my I-S-O at.
6400 我不知道最新传感器上的峰值是多少 或者我可以改变我的色温 这其实不是真的 6400, I don't know what the peak is so on on those latest sensors is, or I can move my color temperature. It's actually not true.
对传感器有一种固有的灵敏度 这种灵敏度适用于它的曝光 There is a native sensitivity to that sensor that applies both to its exposure.
以及它的颜色边界和被操纵的方式 And to its color bounds and the way that things are being manipulated.
或者其他图像复制的方式是其他版本 通过应用 比如I-S-O 在一个简单的例子中 一个简单的例子 我们一分钟前讨论过的线性增益 Or the way that those other images are being reproduced are other versions, is by applying, like I-S-O, for example, in a simple example, a simple case, we talked about linear gain a minute ago.
如果我在400 我 然后我切换到800 然后我的图像就得到了 If I am on 400, I so and I switched 800, I so, and somehow my image just got.
亮度为200% 这是因为线性增益操作被应用于图像处理 因为它与捕获的状态相背离 就是这样 200% as bright, that's because a linear gain operation is being applied in the processing of that image as it debayers from its captured state. That's it.
没有魔法 我们不受影响的原因是因为传感器 No magic to it. The reason we get away with that is because sensors have.
比我们现有的HDR显示的动态范围更大 所以你其实并不是在做坏事 通过设置I-S-O和 Way more dynamic range than even the most high dynamic range HDR displays that we have. So what you're really doing is not that you're doing something bad. By setting your I-S-O And.
400或3 20或100万 无论你把它放在哪里 400 or three, twenty or a million, wherever you're putting it.
但是你会对你捕获的图像的动态范围产生偏差 所以你想要找出那个传感器的固有灵敏度是多少 然后 But you are biasing the dynamic range of your captured image, so you want to find out what the native sensitivity of that sensor is, and then.
小心地离开它 所以要明白 如果你从天生的敏感度 比如说 640 你会把它提高到1280 Mindfully move off of it so understand that if you go from a native sensitivity of, say, six forty and you'd bump that up to twelve eighty.
现在上面的纬度多了下面的纬度少了 所以要借位 You now have a little bit more latitude of top and a little bit less latitude in the bottom, so you're borrowing.
当你移动ISO旋钮的时候重新映射中间曝光的两边的纬度 And re mapping where your Uh latitude on either side of your middle exposure is When you move that ISO knob.
在色温方面 谢天谢地 它稍微简单一点 再一次 我们要感谢图像科学 因为我们有非常好的 And the color temperature side of it, thankfully, it's a little bit more straightforward, again, we have image science to thank for the fact that we have very good.
所谓的创伤适应转变给了我们一个很好的近似 What are called traumatic adaptation transforms that give us a very good approximation of.
我们知道这个图像在D65下是什么样子 那么它在D65下是什么样子 While we know what this image looked like under D, sixty five, so what would it look like under.
或者低于5600是一个更好的例子 5400或3200以下是什么情况呢 Or under maybe 5600 is a better example. So what might it look like under 5400 or 3200.
我们对这些东西有很好的模型 我们可以非常精确地 估计出它的样子 这就是我们把开尔文从传感器的固有灵敏度上移开时所做的 We have good models for that stuff, and we can pretty accurately, uh, make an estimation of what that would look like, and that's what we're doing when we move our kelvin off of the native sensitivity of our sensor.
不过谢天谢地 Uh, but that's thankfully.
我想说的是 这比曝光更划算 A little bit more of a cost free proposition, I would say, than the exposure thing.
ISO这个东西 我应该说 ISO认为 很好 但我们需要注意的事实是 我们在移动 当我们这样做时 我们动态范围的偏差 The ISO thing, I should say, ISO think, is great, but we need to be mindful of the fact that we are moving, the bias of our dynamic range when we do That.
让我看看我是否理解正确 假设di暴露不足 And let me see if I understood correctly, let's say, di under exposed.
三个停止 Three stops.
所以乘以2 乘以2 乘以4倍得到相同的图像 So you multiply by two, you multiply by two, that's four time multiplication to get the same image.
你基本上是将相机和传感器的噪声以及模拟数字转换器的噪声乘以4 You basically multiplied the noise of the camera and the sensor and the analog to digital converter by four.
嗯 完全正确 这是完全正确的 所以你想找到理想的 MHM, that's exactly right. That's exactly right. So you want to find ideally.
中间就是真正的中间 传感器的固有灵敏度 并以此为目标 除非它对你来说真的很重要 Middle what the true middle, native sensitivity of the sensor is, and aim at that, unless it is actually important to you to prioritize.
更有活力的范围在你的中间或下面 灰色 这是一个常见的事情 你会听到更敏锐的 嗯 制作团队和电影摄影师谈论这个 More dynamic range above or below your middle, gray, which is a common thing, and you'll hear more astute, uh, production teams and cinematographers talk about that.
但总的来说 我们想从先天的敏感度开始 But in general, we want to start with, what's the native sensitivity and uh,
在那里捕捉光线和镜头 而不是考虑ISO是一个免费的 动态的 弹性的参数 Capture there and then light and lens to that, as opposed to thinking of ISO is this cost free, dynamic, elastic parameter.
我想你的时间到了 杰森 你在吗 Um, I think your time is up, jason, are you here.
杰森 我想要你 我就在这 我看不见你 我们看看能不能 Jason, I want you, I'm here. I can't see you. Let's see if we can get.
你就在那里 好吧 锁住他 爸爸 杰森 谢谢你们 There you are. Hey, all right, lock him, dad, jason, thank you guys.
非常感谢 我的意思是 很多人会对这个话题感到震惊 Thank you very much. I mean, a lot of people will be kind of blown away about this topic.
这很有趣 因为你知道 这是我们所做的最基本的事情 这是非常技术性的 It's funny because you know, it's such a fundamental thing of what we do, it's very technical.
很多人都没有意识到这一点 所以谢谢你的来电 欢迎你们 杰森 And a lot of people just don't really realize it, so thank you, call in for all your time. Yeah, you guys are very welcome, jason,
沃尔特 你能听到我说话吗我听得很清楚 谢谢你能来 嗯 现在我们回到 不是技术上的 Walter, can you hear me I can hear you very well, so thank you for being here. Um. And now we go back to, instead of technicality,
艺术性 Artistry.
嗯 So um.
我想告诉大家 你要为我们录一小段 因为你要去的地方 网络连接很粗糙 你不会带着你的电脑 I want to tell everybody you record a little piece for us, because you were going to be in a place where the connection would be sketchy and you would not have your computer with you.
我会从你的平静开始 但首先 告诉我们你是谁 你在哪里工作 你做什么 你怎么来的 So I'll start in a moment with your peace, but first of all, tell us who you are, where you work, what you do, how did you get here?
好吧 Okay?
我叫杰森·博达克 我是加州洛杉矶的一名涂色师 我目前在福克斯工作室的多平台部门工作 这是 Well, my name is Jason Bodak, I'm a colorist in finishing artist based in Los Angeles, california, and I currently work at Fox Studios in their multi platform department, which is.
基本上是他们的社交媒体机器 Basically their social media machine.
我也经营像素工具 这是一家公司 And I also run Pixel Tools, which is a company that.
通过预置和功率等级的使用 致力于改进 使校准更容易 更高效 Dedicates itself to improving, making caligrating easier and making it more efficient through the use of presets and power grades.
事实上 我希望你在演讲中展示了电影工作室 但你决定不展示了 Actually, I was hoping for a moment that you were showing Pictures studio in your presentation, but you decide not.
所以有兴趣的人请给他点颜色看看 他有个网站 我有一些他的预设 因为每隔一段时间 我 So whoever is interested please heat him up. He has a website, and I have some of his preset, because every once in a while, I.
即使我总是做同样的事情 我也喜欢尝试新的想法 因为只有当你走出自己的舒适区 你才能学到东西 所以 Even for, if I do always the same thing, I like to try new ideas, because you can only learn if you go slide outside of your comfortable zone. So.
谢谢你的两个 杰森 如果你想 你想谈谈我们一会儿要展示的东西 Thank you for those two, jason, um, if you do, you wanna talk a little bit about what we're gonna present in a moment.
是的 当然 我会说的 它 它有点倾向于同样的事情 当我创建像素工具和 Yeah, definitely, I'll talk about it, and it, it sort of leans into the same thing. When I created pixel tools and.
这是一样的 我们总是习惯于使用相同的控制 无论是曲线还是对比 It's the same thing. We always get into this habit of using the same controls, whether it's curves or contrast.
或者颜色增强或饱和度 无论你习惯使用什么 只要你习惯使用它 这是你第一个想要的东西 Or color boost or saturation, whatever you get used to using, as soon as you get comfortable using it. It's the first thing that you always reach for.
一旦你在图像中看到这个问题 你就会转向更舒适的控制 这是真的 And as soon as you see a problem with that in the image, you're going to go to your more comfortable control. And that's actually.
我最初创建像素工具的原因是 嗯 我的灵感其实来自SteveAssewitz的一个产品 当时我在灯光室工作 The reason that I originally built Pixel Tools was, UM, I was actually inspired by a product by Steve Assewitz where I was working in light room.
因为他的预设对我来说很容易 我发现自己在做修改 And because he had presets that were so easy for me to access, I found myself doing corrections.
通过简单的预设组合 我可能不会这样做 如果我必须自己做每一个修正 Through the mere combination of presets that I probably wouldn't have done if I had to do every single correction on my own.
我认为这是一个很好的工作和实验的方式 即使我不会像那样做整个年级 And I thought that was a really neat way of working and experimenting, even if I wasn't going to do the whole grade like that.
因为我通过预设的速度和效率想出了外观和修正 Because I came up with looks and corrections that through the speed and efficiency of presets that.
我永远不会完全从零开始建造 无论是因为它们太复杂 还是因为它太远离我的舒适区 我只是会说 MA I would have never built completely from scratch, whether it's because they're too complex, or it's just so away from my comfort zone that I just would have gone, MA,
这不是这幅图所需要的 再举一次 还有你的枪 That's not what this image needs. Lift them again, and your gun.
没错 我想坚持用超级简单的东西 但也许我想 也许这看起来会更好用技术的外观 或黑白 我可以得到 Exactly, I want to stick with something that's super easy, but maybe I want to, maybe this will look better with a technical look, or black and white, and I can get.
比我从零开始做任何事情的速度快了三到四倍 我对重复做同样的事情感到内疚 因为它成功了 还有人 Three or four times as many experiments done quickly than I can building everything from scratch, and I'm guilty of doing the same thing over and over, because it's been successful, and People.
想要我这样 我就变成了一个懒惰的卡路里摄入者 这就是它 Want me for that, and I become a lazy calorist. So that's it.
你是人类 这是 我们进入 You're human, it's it's. We get into the.
习惯 这就是习惯的工作原理 所以我认为这很重要 我今晚的演讲 就是要尝试 The habit, and that's literally how habits work, and so I think it's important, and what my presentation tonight, it's about, is about trying to.
今晚我要讨论的是饱和度 但我邀请你在所有不同的控制中都这么做 如果你发现自己陷入了 Purposely break those habits tonight, I'm talking about saturation, but I invite you to do this with all of your different controls. If you find yourself getting stuck into the.
同样的表情 同样的感觉 或者你只是觉得无聊 后退一步 看看我一直在做什么 然后向左走 The same look or the same feeling, or you're just getting bored, take a step backward and see what do I always do, and then go left.
无论你通常做什么 去一个不同的方向 无论是分辨率或基线光或任何你使用的 试着扩大你的工具 得到一点 Whatever you normally do, go to a different direction, and whether it's resolve or Baselight or whatever you use, try to expand your tool, get a little bit.
好吧 给我点时间 我看看 我能不能让你平静下来 Okay, so give me a second, I see, um, if I can start your peace.
如果我得不到 If I don't get.
我们在这里 你们看到蓝色 黑屏了吗 Here we are, are you guys seeing the the Blues, the black screen?
大家好 我是JasonBodak 我是一名来自加州洛杉矶的色彩和整理艺术家 Hi, I'm Jason Bodak, I'm a colors and finishing artist based in Los Angeles, california.
我在FoxStudios的多平台内容团队中工作 I work with Fox Studios on their multi platform content team.
我还经营PixelTools 这是一家专门让着色过程更快更容易使用的公司 And I also run Pixel Tools, which is a company that specializes in making the colorgrating process faster and easier, using.
预设和电网 专门使用内置到应用程序的本机工具 Presets and power grid that specialize in using the native tools built into the application.
一定要在PixelToolsPost com上查看我们 Be sure to check us out at Pixel Tools Post dot com.
今天我们来看看我们如何能更适应特定的工具和解决的方式 一个只是饱和度 Now today we're going to look at how we can be more tuned to the ways that the specific tools and resolve, a just saturation.
因为有很多 我可以数出来 我相信不止5个 Because there's quite a bit of them, I can count them, I believe there's more than five.
你可能会问 为什么我需要一个以上的工具来调整饱和度 我有饱和度控制 我有色彩增强 我有曲线 And you may ask, why do I need more than one tool to adjust saturation I have the saturation control, I have color boost, I have the curves.
还有各种各样的调整 And a variety of more tweak.
这是因为他们每个人都有不同的方式来调整饱和度 Well, it's because each one of them has a different way of adjusting saturation.
你可能对调整饱和度有不同的需求 今天我们就来看看其中的一些 And you may have different needs of adjusting saturation, and today we're going to look at some of those and.
具体来说 就是这些不同的控件如何以不同的方式调整饱和度 Specifically, how those different controls adjust saturation in different ways.
因为你可能想要调整不同的饱和度在高光和阴影 你可能想要调整不同的高度饱和的颜色 Because you may want adjust saturation differently in the highlights and the shadows, you may want adjust highly saturated colors different from.
饱和度不是很高的颜色 深一点的颜色和亮一点的颜色 我们将看看这些工具如何调整这些颜色和它们的饱和度 Not so highly saturated colors, darker colors and brighter colors, and we're going to look at the ways that some of those tools adjust those colors and their saturations differently.
我们还会看一些使用不同颜色空间的技巧 We're also going to look at a couple tricks using different color spaces.
现在我的目标不是重复你的工作 Now my goal isn't to reinvent the wheel from you.
我所希望的是 当你遇到需要调整饱和度的场景时 给你一个提示 What I'm hoping you walk away with is just one tip that when you are encounter a scene where you need to adjust the saturation.
而不是使用默认的工具来调整饱和度 无论是颜色增强还是饱和度 或者曲线 That instead of just going to the default tool that you use to adjust saturation, whether it be color boost or saturation, or curves.
现在你的工具箱里有了一个新的工具来调整饱和度 That you now have a new tool in your tool kit to adjust saturation with.
和 And.
如果您有一个新的工具 您可能能够创建一个不同的外观的图像 并且 If you have a new tool, you may be able to create a different looking image, and.
再添加一个工具 再添加一个工具 再添加一个工具 Add another tool, and then another tool, and then another tool.
当你遇到这些类型的情况时 你将能够成为一个更好的艺术家 一个更多样化的艺术家 并创造 And when you encounter these types of situations, you're going to be able to be a better artist, a more varied artist, and create.
更好看的艺术作品 因为比起一遍又一遍地使用相同的工具 Better looking art, because instead of just grabbing the same tool over and over.
你需要掌握各种不同的工具 并根据情况和最佳需求来选择它们 You're grabbing a variety of different tools and picking them base on the situation and what it best requires.
让我们来解决并看看这些不同的饱和度控制的工作方式 So let's should have been to resolve and see the way that some of these different saturation controls work.
我们先从这个片段开始 很快的 在我们开始看工具箱之前 So we'll start on this clip right here, real quick, just before we jump in and start looking at the tool kit.
我想提一下 我正在使用达芬奇Y-R-G-B颜色管理工作流 只是为了我们不需要处理剪辑的变换 I wanted to mention that I am using the Da vinci Y-R-G-B color managed workflow, just so we don't need to deal with the transform of the clips.
我们从这个片段开始 We'll start on this clip right here.
我想提到的第一个控制是经过验证的真实饱和度控制 And the first control that I wanted to mention was the tried and true saturation control.
饱和度控制通常是要去的 因为它在面板上很常见 很容易就能拿到 Now the saturation control is usually the go to, because it is very common on panels. It's really easy to just sort of reach for it.
还有一点点的封闭 但我只是稍微把它调大 And a little bit more sancturation, but as I just sort of crank it up.
我们可以清楚地看到为什么很多人 We can see exactly why a lot of people.
确实有些问题 它增加了饱和度 完全相同的数量沿整个范围的色域 Do have some issues with it. It adds saturation, the exact same amount along the entire range of the gamut.
这意味着如果你有一种不太饱和的颜色和一种高度饱和的颜色 它们的饱和度是一样的 Meaning that if you have a color that is not very saturated and one that is highly saturated, it is going to saturate them the same amount.
所以我们最后得到的是正确饱和的颜色和不幸的是过度饱和的颜色 So what we end up with is colors that are now correctly saturated and colors that are unfortunately over saturated.
至少在视觉上是令人愉快的 At least in a visually pleasing manner.
我们该怎么做呢 So what do we do with this?
嗯 我们不想放弃饱和度控制 这是一个很好的控制 它很容易使用 它在大多数面板上快速旋转 但我们还能补充什么呢 Well, we don't want to throw the saturation control out, it's a great control, it's easy to use, it's quick to axis on most panels. But what can we add to this.
所以颜色增强是一个非常简洁的控制 So color boost is a really neat control that.
我建议很多人看一看 我会重置饱和度控制 打开颜色增强 我也会开始 I recommend a lot of people take a look at, and I'll reset the saturation control, and I'll turn on color boost, and I'll start too.
曲柄 Crank it up.
很多人把它比作振动器 它有一点振动的感觉因为它攻击 And a lot of people compare to vibrants, and it has a little bit of a vibrants feel to it in that it attacks.
不太饱和的颜色 第一 现在真正的快 Colors that are not very saturated. First. Now real quick.
我来爆响 I'll pop the sound.
我们现在看到的是我们有很多颜色不是很饱和 What this is showing us right now is that we have a lot of colors that are not very saturated and not.
在高度饱和的范围内有很多颜色 尽管在她的屏幕上看起来是这样的 假设我重置了上次修正后的笔记 A lot of colors in the highly saturated range, despite what it looks like on her screen, assuming I reset that note from our last correction.
颜色的控制是专门设计来帮助工作 它实际上有一条像这样的曲线 The color was control is specifically designed to help work with this. What it does is it actually has a curve that goes sort of like this.
它会朝着正的方向 这个方向 影响 And it will go either in a positive direction, this direction, affecting.
最不饱和的颜色和高度饱和的颜色非常快或在一个负面的方向 冲淡 The least saturated colors and highly saturated them very quickly or in a negative direction. Desaturating.
这些颜色 These colors.
如果我们往负方向走 那么我们可以用这个信息做什么 好吧 If we go in the negative direction, so what can we do with this information? Well,
它本身并没有那么有用 因为这里有一个有趣的怪癖 It's not that useful on its own, because here's an interesting quirk.
如果我们看看这里的中性元素 事实上 所有的 If we look at our neutrals right here, in fact, all.
对这个演示不感兴趣 快点 这不是我想要平衡的 我们会很快地平衡到这里 Be lazy for this demonstration, and quickly, it's not what I want to balance you, we'll quickly to sort of balance out to that right there.
如果我看一下我们的中性色 然后我们开始添加色彩增强 And if I look at our neutrals, and then we start adding color boost.
你可以看到它们很快恢复平衡 You can see that they quickly pick up in, in balance.
在这种情况下 我们有红色和高光和蓝色的阴影 This case, we have red and the highlights and blue in the shadows.
这在色彩增强中很常见 And that's pretty common for color boost.
现在我们能做些什么来解决这个问题或者干脆放弃这个控制 因为它确实是一个很有用的控制 Now what can we do to either combat this or do we just throw this control out, because it's actually a really useful control.
另一件要注意的事情是如果你看矢量示波器 它去饱和的方式 One other thing to notice is if you look at the vectorscope, the way that it desaturates.
就像我之前提到的 Like I mentioned with that.
图 它的目标还是相同的颜色 Graph, it still targets the same colors.
好吧 Okay?
我们能做什么呢 好吧 这两个控制器碰巧也在控制板上 所以如果它们一起工作不是很方便吗 So what can we do with this? Well, these two controllers also happened to be on the panel, so wouldn't it be handy if they did work well together?
如果我增加我的饱和度 Well, it just so happens that they do so If I increase in my saturation.
你可以看到饱和度的变化 就像是中心向外凸出 You can see what's happening with saturation. It's almost like the center is bulging out.
那么如果我们使用颜色增强并向负方向移动会发生什么呢 So what happens if we take color boost and go in the negative direction?
这有点太远了 但你开始得到一个非常令人愉快的效果 It's a little too far, but you start to get a very pleasing effect.
现在我说视觉上的愉悦效果 因为我们还需要做一些修正 Now I say visually pleasing effect, because we still have a little bit of correction that we need to do.
我看我的高光 在我的阴影 我们仍然得到一点颜色和边界 但它远少于我用颜色增强单独 I look in my highlights, in my shadows, we're still getting a little bit of a color and bounds, but it's far less than I would with the color boost alone.
而且我再也不用担心A的肤色会过于艳丽 And I no longer need to worry about the A skin tone being completely garish.
嘴唇有点过度饱和 但除此之外 我喜欢的图像是什么样的 这是一个很简洁的组合 The lips are a little bit over saturated, but otherwise, I like what the image is looking like. So this is a very neat control by compining these two.
特别是他们在一个面板上 我可以推拉这两个类似于你会让他们再次 And especially the fact that they're on a panel, I can sort of push and pull these two similar to you would let them again.
重置一下 So I'll reset that.
当我使用饱和度的时候 首先 它实际上是在操作顺序的前面发生的颜色增强 Now while I am using saturation, first, and it's actually color boost that is happening up front in the order of operation.
所以实际发生的是我们通过颜色增强来增强颜色 然后应用饱和度校正 So what is actually happening is we're boosting the colors through color boost, and then applying our saturation correction.
既然如此 我们将转移到下一个方法 即使用HDR面板 With that being said, we're going to move on to the next method, which is using the HDR panel.
现在你可能会认为HR面板只是为了对比 但这里有一个非常好的方法来调整饱和度 Now you might think that the HR panel is only for contrast, but there is a really great method for adjusting saturation in here.
现在我要做的第一件事就是把它展开 我们可以看到所有这些区域 Now first thing I need to do is expand this, and we can see that we have all of these zones.
现在如果你不熟悉高动态范围面板 它本质上是类固醇的原木车轮 Now if you're not familiar with the high dynamic range panel, it's essentially the log wheels on steroids.
它把图像分割成一些我们可以控制的区域 It splits the image up into a bunch of different zones which we have control over.
并可以定义跌落 And can define the fall off of.
我回到这里 我们可以用这些轮子来来回回 I'll go back here, and we can go back and forth with these wheels.
但是很多人忽略了在每个转盘下面 曝光旁边是饱和度控制 But what a lot of people miss is that underneath each wheel, next to the exposure is a saturation control.
因为高动态范围面板是颜色空间感知的 And because the high dynamic range panel is color space aware,
它完美地映射到你的颜色信号 It is perfectly mapped to your color signal.
这意味着你不需要考虑我使用的是什么相机 只要你在一开始就设置好一切 这是我们这样做的原因之一 Meaning that you don't need to think about what camera am I working with, as long as you set everything up at the beginning, which was one of the reasons we did That.
我可以想 我想要的外观是什么我想要我的饱和度 我想在哪里修改它 I can just think, what do I want the look to be Where do I want my saturation, and where do I want to modify that?
我想让我的高光变得更暗还是更暗 Do I want to make my specular highlights less or more saturated Do one room make my very deepest darks less or more saturated.
我想要在中间的某个地方 也许是非常中间的色调 但我可以控制避免皮肤色调 Do I want to go somewhere in the middle, maybe the very mid tones, but avoiding the skin tones I have the control to do that.
我要做的就是去那些区域然后根据 All I have to do is going to the zones and set that based on.
无论它在哪里 我的形象 Wherever that is, my image.
我可以不用调整或修改我之前的成绩 如果这是一个问题的话 或者我可以在成绩中正确地做 And I can do that without even adjusting or modifying my previous grade, if that's a concern, or I can do that right in the grade.
如果我用高动态范围面板评分 这是一个非常难以置信的工具 可以集成到你的工具包中 If I'm grading with the high dynamic range panel, so it's a really incredible tool to integrate right into your tool kit.
现在我能提到的唯一的电话是它不容易在面板上 Now the only call that I can mention is it's not easily accessible on the panels.
在许多面板上 你必须一直到用户和HDR访问它 On the many panel, you have to go all the way to user and HDR to access it.
而不是一个容易接近的旋钮 As opposed to having an easily accessible knob.
饱和度和颜色都是可控的 That we have with the saturation, and the color was controlled.
但肯定有办法解决这个问题 我想说的是 每种控制都有利弊 But there's definitely ways around that, and there's pros and cons for each control, I'd say.
好 我们的下一个控件是颜色worker Okay, our next control is the color worker.
我到这里来 确保我们的注意 我们设置好了 I'll go over to here, and I'll make sure our notice, we set.
我把有色工作者描述成 Now I described the color worker as something that.
能力越大 责任越大 我既是开玩笑又是认真地说 With great power comes with great responsibility. And I say that both jokingly and seriously,
因为颜色整经是一个令人难以置信的好效果 Because the color warper is an incredibly awesome effect.
但它几乎太强大了 But it is almost too powerful.
这样我们就可以完全控制 只要用鼠标把颜色拉向任何我们想要的方向 In that we have full control to just take our mouse and pull our colors in whatever direction we want.
完全破坏我们的图像 然后想 为什么会这样 现在我在这个例子中完全夸大了它 但是你得到了图像 And completely destroy our image and then wonder, why is it that way Now I've completely exaggerated this in this example, but you get the picture.
不幸的是 我能做的太多太快 I am unfortunately able to do too much too quickly.
在这种特殊的效果中 我强烈推荐使用非常轻的触感 And in this specific effect, I highly recommend having a very light touch.
因为你几乎可以做任何事情 你可以在每一个其他效果 特别是在颜色整经 Because you can do almost anything you can in every other effect, specifically in the color warper.
我们要怎么处理颜色呢 So what do we want to do in the color work?
你可以做任何事情 从应用对比度到颜色通道 Well, you can do everything from apply contrast to the color channels.
你可以瞄准皮肤 稍微调整一下 不需要背景 你可以瞄准高度特定的颜色 You can target skin and tweak it just a little bit without getting the background in there, you can target a highly specific color.
但在这个例子中 我将向你展示如何使色调的一部分饱和而不饱和另一部分 But in this example, I'm going to show you how we can saturate one part of a hue without saturating another.
为了做到这一点 我要弹出颜色变形器 把它放在这里 So to do that, I'm gonna pop out the color warper, and we'll keep it right here.
现在我要做的第一件事就是把中性色固定好 在我这么做之前 颜色如何工作 Now the first thing I like to do with the color worker is to pin the neutrals now real quick, before I do that, how is the color worker work.
这是我们的中性色或白色 我拖着这个 我们会在整个图像上得到诱人的效果 Well, this is our neutral or our whites, I drag this, we're going to get tempting all over our image.
上面这个是最饱和的红色 This up here is our most saturated red.
我把这个往下拉 就得到了Deshat速率 I drag this down, I start to Deshat rate.
我这样拉 我要开始做一个Hew移位 我可以让网格更复杂或更简单 我们要坚持用8 I pull it this way, I'm going to start to get a Hew shift, I can make the grid more or less complex, we're going to stick with eight.
现在我要做的是让饱和度保持红色 饱和度不变 Now what I want to do is I want to keep our saturated red up here, the same saturation.
我要抓住这个家伙 So I'm going to pin this guy.
我想要增加这些 这样我可以像这样拖动 And I want to increase these so I can either drag this like so.
你会看到我的红色越来越饱和 And you'll see that my reds are getting more saturated.
我写 点击重置或 I write, click to reset or.
我也可以在这里增加 I can go over here and increase as well.
现在我也有色相和光亮度效果 所以如果我想让它既饱和又暗 Now I also have both hue and lumma effects as well, so if I wanted to make it both saturated and darker,
我也可以在这里这样做 所以如果我关掉这个效果 我们可以看到发生了什么 I could also do that right here, so if I turn this effect off, we can see what's happening to that.
现在我可以对所有颜色都这样做 Now I could do this to all range of colors.
假设有一个皮肤很脆弱 就那么一点点 她就在那里 这对她的皮肤有一点影响 Let's say one is a tweaker skin, just a little bit, she's right there. It's affecting her skin a tiny bit.
我想看看她的皮肤 I want to desat her skin.
完美的 所以我能得到 Perfect. So I'm able to get.
在饱和度的基础上增加一些强度 而不会把图像弄得太乱 Some intensity to my saturation without messing up the image too much.
如果我发现它有点过了 我当然可以把它拿回来 输入输出或 And if I find it a little bit over the top, I can of course take this back and key output or.
我可以选择我的修正 I can select my corrections.
和 And.
我可以抚平它们 I can smooth them out.
同样值得注意的是 这里有各种各样的颜色空间供你尝试 Also of note, there's a variety of color spaces for you to experiment in here.
我在HSP中做过这个 我们也可以在HSL和HSP中进行实验 I did this in the HSP. We can also experiment in the HSL and the HSP.
说到HSL和HSP Now speaking of HSL and HS, P,
我们将做一个我绝对推荐的实用程序 包括两个串行节点 第一 We're going to do one more utility that I definitely recommend, making a power great of that involves two serial nodes. First.
叫它H-S-L 我们得去 Call this one H-S-L. We need to go to.
是通道并且被禁用 第一频道和第三频道 Are channels and disabled. Channel one and channel three.
它的工作原理是我们从RGB到HSL 我们只需要控制S通道 我们不想把H牵扯进来 So how this works is we're going from RGB to HSL, and we just need control over the S channel. We don't want to involve the H.
或者是L通道 我也要禁用loomut混合 这样就没有交互了 Or the L channel, I'm also going to disabled the loomut mix that way, there is no interaction there.
在一个广告中 还有一个系列 叫做HSV And on an ad, one more serial note, call this HSV.
我们还需要关闭一频道和三频道 And we also need to disabled channels one and channel three.
同样的事情 Same thing.
卢混合到零 Lou mixed down to zero.
我们要做的是在饱和通道下获得增益 So what we're going to do is we're going to gain down our saturation channel.
第一个音符 它的饱和状态是一半 And our first note, which is going to result in it being about half as saturated.
在HS的第二个音符中 P节点 And then in the second note in our HS, P node.
我们将使它恢复到原来的两倍 这将使它恢复到大约和之前一样饱和 We're going to gain it back up to twice as much, and that'll bring it back up to approximately as saturated as it was before.
但是我们会看到它的亮度有点暗 这会给我们一个视觉上的愉悦效果 But we're going to see that it looks a little bit darker in luminance, which is going to give us a visually pleasing effect.
很多人提到它是减去饱和度或深颜色 很多人喜欢它在他们的电影 仿真 看起来 A lot of people refer to it is subtract of saturation or deep color, and a lot of people like it in their film, emulation, looks.
在HSL的第一个节点中 So in our first node in HSL,
我们的收获很好 我要把这个减少 Good our gain, and I'm going to reduce this down.
哈哈 HA, HA,
所以在我们的第一个笔记中 我要把这个降到50% So in our first note, I'm gonna take this, I'll go down to 50%.
或5点 Or point five.
然后在第二个音符中 我们要取这个增益 然后向上到2 在我们上去之前 请注意 And then in our second note, we're going to take this gain, and we're going to go up to a two. Now before we go up, notice that.
如果我把这个开关打开 它基本上是半饱和的 If I turn this on and off, it's basically about half saturated.
你可以添加这个 或者通过面板手动添加 或者输入 现在我要把它变成一个复合音 You can add this, either do this by hand through panel or typing it in. Now I'm going to turn this into a compound note.
如果我打开和关闭这个 你会看到效果 And if I turn this on and off, you'll see the effects of it.
现在这不是完全相同的饱和歌曲 我要把它调高一点 Now it's not quite the same saturation song, going to take this a little bit higher.