我听说大号安全套... I heard Magnum condoms are basically
基本上和普通安全套尺寸一样 the same size as regular condoms.
嗯哼 Mmm-mmm.
这让你思考 Which makes you think, like,
我们还有什么是 仅仅因为营销而相信的？ what else do we believe just because of marketing?
比如 如果你从小就被告知 Like, if you grew up being told
《摩门经》是假的 the Book of Mormon is fake,
你可能就会相信它是假的 因为 you'd probably believe it was fake 'cause
这就是你被告知的 that's what you were told.
不 大号安全套很大 No, Magnums are huge.
我姐姐说她前夫有个吓人的大家伙 My sister said her ex-husband had a scary big peen,
就是 大得吓人 他们不得不用大号安全套 like, frighteningly big, and they had to wear Magnums.
听起来像编的 Sounds made up.
大象鼻子 Elephant trunk.
没错 她就是这么称呼它的 Yup. That's what she would call it.
我看了这个视频 I was watching this video,
不太确定在哪里看到的 I'm not sure where I saw it.
是两个人在发生性行为 It was these two people having intercourse,
呃 性交 um, sexual intercourse,
做爱 还有 呃 还有一个摄影师在拍摄他们 sex, and, uh, and a cameraman filming them.
就像一个业余...色情片那样的东西？ Like an amateur porno... nography type thing?
呃 视频里的女孩在大声呻吟 Um, and the girl in the video was moaning loudly,
我想在那种视频里这是典型的 as in typical, I assume, in that kind of video.
就是在尖叫 Just screaming.
然后 突然间 And then, all of a sudden,
在镜头外的走廊里 off camera, in the hallway,
你听到一个女人隔着墙喊道 you hear this lady yell, through the wall,
"我们能听到你们！" "We can hear you!"
那对情侣停止了做爱 And the couple stop sex-ing.
他们脸上尴尬和惊恐的表情 And the look of embarrassment and horror on their faces
真是痛苦至极 was so painful.
那个色情片女孩 就是那个 And the porno-girl who's, like,
在后面被进入的 说了些挑衅的话 比如 taking it from behind-ish, says something defiant, like,
低声说"很好！" "Good!" under her breath,
但你可以清楚地看到她的灵魂 but you can literally see her soul
就在那时从她身体里被吸走了 being sucked out of her body, right then and there.
她所有的尊严都消失了 All of her dignity gone,
就好像她第一次意识到 as if realizing for the first time, like,
"哇 这就是我的生活 "Wow, this is my life,
"我在镜头前和陌生人做爱来赚钱 " "I'm f-ing a stranger on camera for money."
我就在想 And I just thought,
"天哪 这真是令人深思 " "Like, wow, that is really poignant."
因为 就在那一刻 Because, like, in that moment,
我心想 "是啊 " I was like, "Yeah."
上帝是真实存在的 God's real.
我们有灵魂 We have souls.
这是神圣的确认 It's divine confirmation.
你是不是经常看... Do you watch a lot of...
不! 我没有! 不 No! I do not! No.
- 我不看色情片 - 好的 好的 - I do not watch porno-ography. - Okay, okay.
不 No.
- 没关系的 - 不! 我说了不! - It's okay. - No! I said no!
- 我没有! - 嗯嗯 我知道 - I'm not! - Mmm-hmm. I know.
- 我不是看色情片的人 - 好的 好的 - Not a pornography watcher. - Okay. Okay.
哦 我希望这次能顺利进行 Oh, I hope this goes well.
我知道这不是竞争 I know it's not a competition,
但我在传教期间还没有 but I haven't baptized a single investigator
为一个调查员施洗过 on my mission yet.
没关系 我只归化了 It's okay, I've only converted,
- 大概八九个人 - 八九个? - like, eight or nine people. - Eight or nine?
该死 Balls.
总之 你觉得我刚才说的怎么样? Anyway, what do you think about what I was saying?
色情片的事? The porno thing?
就像... Like...
上帝是如何向你证明教会是真实的? How has God shown you that the church is true?
我不知道 我想我还没有真正... I don't know. I guess I haven't really...
我还没有真正考虑过这个问题 I haven't really thought about it.
但你知道这是真的 But you know it's true.
如果你在信仰的考验之后 If ye receive no witness
才得到见证... until after the trial of your faith...
如果你没有得到见证... If ye receive no witness...
这对夫妇之后 Who do we have...
我们还要见谁? after this couple again?
我想是我们在好市多 遇到的那个秃头男人 I think we have the bald guy we met at Costco.
好的 哦 对 Okay. Oh, yeah.
好的 每爬一层楼梯... Okay, for every flight of stairs...
嗯? ...我们的丈夫 Yeah? ...our husband
就会变帅五倍 gets five times hotter.
嗨 下午好 女士 我叫巴恩斯姐妹 Hi, good afternoon, ma'am. My name is Sister Barnes,
这是我的同伴帕克斯顿姐妹 and this is my companion, Sister Paxton.
您有兴趣了解 Are you interested in learning
我们的救主耶稣基督吗? about our savior, Jesus Christ?
好的 Okay.
- 嗨! - 下午好 - Hi! - Good afternoon.
- 嗨 您有兴趣... - 我叫 呃 - Hi, are you interest... - My name is, uh,
巴恩斯姐妹 而且... Sister Barnes, and...
你有没有觉得当你唱歌时 You ever feel like when you sing,
音调要么太高要么太低? it's, like, too high or too low?
我不太喜欢唱歌 I don't really like to sing.
我觉得你的声音很美 I think you have a beautiful voice.
我知道我的声音不好听 但是... I know I don't have a beautiful voice, but...
不,你喜欢 你喜欢 No, you do. You do.
我很享受 I enjoy it.
哦,天啊 我已经喜欢上这些女孩了 Oh, my gosh. I already love these girls.
嘿... Hey...
对不起! Sorry!
对不起!我们能拍张照吗? Sorry! Can we get a pic?
哦,当然可以! Oh, of course!
呃,来吧 Uh, here.
- 是真的吗? - 什么是真的? - Is it true? - Is what true?
- 你们真的穿魔法内衣吗? - 什么? - Do you wear magic underwear? - What?
哦,天啊!来吧,我们走 Oh, my gosh! Come on, let's go.
就是这里 This is it.
人们认为我们很奇怪 People think we're weird.
你是什么意思? What do you mean?
我不知道 那部《南方公园》音乐剧 I don't know. That South Park musical
有点嘲笑我们 kind of makes fun of us.
我听了一些歌, I listened to some of the songs,
其实挺好笑的 and they're actually pretty funny.
不管怎样,谁...谁在乎别人怎么想? Anyway, who... who cares what people think?
你很棒 You're awesome.
谢谢 Thanks.
嗨,我是帕克斯顿姐妹 嗨 Hi, I'm Sister Paxton. Hi.
你好,我是帕克斯顿姐妹 这是我的同伴, Hello, I'm Sister Paxton. This is my companion,
巴恩斯姐妹 Sister Barnes.
上帝选择先知, God chooses prophets,
比如亚当, such as Adam,
诺亚、亚伯拉罕和摩西 Noah, Abraham and Moses.
先知们教导关于 上帝的知识并接受启示 The prophets teach about God and receive revelation.
好的 All right.
让我们为你安排洗礼吧 Let's get you a baptism.
好的 Okay.
啊! Ah!
下午好 Good afternoon.
- 嗨 - 下午好 - Hi. - Good afternoon.
我是帕克斯顿姐妹 这是我的同伴巴恩斯姐妹 I'm Sister Paxton, and this is my companion, Sister Barnes.
嗯,你是里德先生吗? Um, are you Mr. Reed?
是的 你们好 I am. Hello to you.
- 你好 等等 - 嗨 - Hello. Wait. - Hi.
你是帕克斯顿,你是巴恩斯 You are Paxton, you are Barnes.
- 巴恩斯? - 呃,不 我是... - Barnes? - Um, no. I'm...
- 帕克斯顿,巴恩斯 - 巴恩斯,对 - Paxton, Barnes. - Barnes, yes.
- 帕克斯顿,巴恩斯 - 对 - Paxton, Barnes. -Yeah.
里德先生,很高兴终于见到你 Mr. Reed, it's so nice to meet you, finally.
我们正好在这个地区,想顺便来拜访, We were just in the area, and we wanted to stop by
因为你提到过你可能有兴趣 because you mentioned you might be interested
了解更多关于耶稣基督后期圣徒教会 in learning more about the Church of Jesus Christ
的信息? of Latter-day Saints?
对!对,对,对 Yeah! Yeah, yeah, yeah.
里德先生 我们想给您这本小册子 Mr. Reed, we would like to give you this booklet,
它会帮助您了解复兴 as it will help you understand the restoration.
我...我其实已经有一本了 I... I actually have one already,
但是 嗯 这种东西多多益善 but, um, you can never have too many.
它...它告诉你所有天父 It... it tells you all the ways
可以启示祂福音的方式 the Heavenly Father can reveal His gospel.
- 作为祂计划的一部分... - 谢谢 - As a part of His plan... - Thank you.
...上帝选择先知 ...God chooses prophets,
比如亚当、诺亚、亚伯拉罕和摩西 such as Adam, Noah, Abraham and Moses.
- 呃 先知... - 是啊 说到诺亚... - Uh, prophets... - Yeah, well, talking of Noah...
...现在真是非常非常潮湿 ...it is very, very wet.
...教导关于上帝的知识并接受启示 ...teach about God and receive revelation,
他们解释上帝的话语 并向世界 and they interpret the word of God, and preach
传播福音 由于叛教... the gospel to the world, and because of Apostasy...
你们要进来吗？ Would you like to come inside?
...人们失去了对福音的了解 ...people lose knowledge of the gospel.
你有女性室友吗？ Do you have a girl roommate?
女性 谁？ A girl, who?
一个...一个室友？ A... a roommate?
除非有另一位女性在场 否则我们不能进去 We can't come inside unless another woman is present
但是 嗯 我们可以 呃 待在这里 but, um, we can, uh, stay out here
门口 如果你不介意的话？ in the doorway, if that's fine with you?
这只是为了安全 我们不介意雨水 It's just for safety. We don't mind the rain.
嗯 我妻子在家 这算数吗？ Well, my wife is home. Does that count?
- 当然！ - 太好了 - Yeah! - Perfect.
当你说"室友"时 我慌了 我... When you said "roommate,",I panicked. I...
我自从 呃...就没有过室友了 I haven't had a roommate since, uh...
总之 我...我有一个灵魂伴侣 这就够了吧？ Anyway, I... I have a soulmate and that is good enough?
- 是的！ - 太棒了！ - Yes! - That's great!
我们很乐意进去见见你的妻子 We'd love to come in and meet your wife.
那就请进吧！太好了！ Then come on in! Great!
- 你们喜欢派吗？ - 喜欢！ - Do you like pie? - Yeah!
我妻子正在烤派 My wife has pie in the oven.
我在传教期间增加了很多体重 I've gained so much weight on my mission.
人们总是给我们吃各种小点心 People are always feeding us treats.
我们似乎从来不拒绝 We never seem to turn them down.
嗯 我妻子喜欢烘焙 Well, my wife loves to bake.
- 我可以帮你们拿外套吗？ - 哦 好的 - May I take your coats? -Oh, yes.
我真的很喜欢派 我超级兴奋 I really love pie. I'm super excited.
我奶奶以前做的派是最好吃的 My grandma used to make the best pie.
好吧 那你和我妻子 一定会相处得很好 Okay, well, you and my wife are gonna get on very well.
- 太好了 - 哦 还有一件事 - Great. - Oh, one thing,
墙壁和天花板里有金属 the walls and ceilings have metal in them.
- 希望没问题 - 我们不介意 - I hope that's okay. - We don't mind.
很好！ Good!
那我去看看点心准备得怎么样了 Well, I will go and check on the snacks.
请自便 Make yourselves at home.
谢谢 Thank you.
我妻子有点害羞 My wife is being shy.
但是派 派马上就要好了 But the pie, the pie is nigh.
她也得和我们一起在房间里 She'll have to be in the room with us too.
是的 当然！当然 好的 我明白 Yes, of course! Of course, right. I understand.
请坐 请坐 Please take a seat, take a seat, take a seat.
这里有几瓶可乐 请...请自便 Couple of colas. Help... help yourself.
我想... I think...
有信仰是件好事 it is good to be religious.
好吧 我们的工作完成了 Well, our work here is done.
不 我只是想在我们开始前 让你知道这一点 No. I just want you to know that before we start.
是的 我想我们会认为 Yeah, I think that we would consider
听到这话很令人耳目一新 that refreshing to hear.
嗯 有时感觉 Well, sometimes, it feels like
宗教可能不再是文化的中心了 maybe religion isn't at the center of culture anymore.
嗯 它正在衰退 不是吗？ Well, it's fading, isn't it?
是的 随着时间推移 嗯哼 Yeah, over time. Mm-hmm.
好的 你准备好听听 Okay, are you ready to hear about
我们天父为你制定的计划了吗？ our Heavenly Father's plan for you?
我准备好了！等等 I am! Wait.
你们两个都是从哪里来的？ Where are you both from?
我？犹他州奥格登 Me? Ogden, Utah.
八个女儿中的一个 我知道 One of eight daughters. I know,
听起来和实际一样糟糕 it's as bad as it sounds.
巴恩斯姐妹来自盐湖城 And Sister Barnes is from Salt Lake City.
呃 原本是费城人 Uh, Philadelphia, originally.
啊 Ah.
你们都是在教会长大的 对吧？ And you're both raised in the church, yeah?
生来就是教徒 Born and raised.
我母亲是后来皈依的 所以 嗯 My mother was a convert, so, um,
当我父亲去世后 when my dad passed away,
我们尝试了几个不同的教会 we auditioned a few different churches,
只是想看看外面还有什么 just to see what was out there
看看我们是否仍然相信它 and see if we still believed in it.
我理解那种感觉 I know that feeling.
我非常理解那种感觉 I know that feeling very well.
在你真正相信的教义中 It's so important to find your faith
找到自己的信仰是如此重要 in a doctrine you actually believe,
这是一个非常非常个人的挣扎 and that's a very, very personal struggle.
这是我长期以来一直 在努力进行的一个 个人挑战 That is a personal challenge that I have struggled with
已经很长很长时间了 for a very, very long time.
你知道 You know,
什么是唯一真正的宗教？ what is the one, true religion?
有趣的是 霍尔姐妹告诉我们 It's funny, Sister Hall was telling us
我们应该 that we should
优先考虑其他调查对象 prioritize other investigators.
- 哦 - 哦 但不是！我... - Oh. - Oh, but no! I...
我只是想说 I'm just saying
我能看出你 that I could tell that you
是一个对精神世界非常好奇的人 are a very spiritually curious person,
就像约瑟·史密斯一样 just like Joseph Smith.
你知道 约瑟调查了许多不同的教派 You know, Joseph investigated many different denominations,
长老会、卫理公会、天主教 Presbyterian, Methodist, Catholicism.
但它们都不太合适 And none of them quite fit,
这就是为什么约瑟创立了我们的教会 which is why,Joseph founded our church.
嗯嗯 Mm-hmm.
据我所知 如果我说错了请纠正我 As I understand it, stop me when I go wrong,
他在夜里被一位叫莫罗尼的天使拜访 he was visited in the night by an angel called Morony.
莫罗乃 莫罗乃 对 Moroni. Moroni. Yeah.
莫罗乃 他向约瑟展示了 Moroni, who showed him where he could locate
在他家附近可以找到一些金页片的地方 some golden plates near his home.
他对那些页片的神秘翻译 His mysterious translation of those plates
构成了这个的基础 form the basis of this.
哇！ Wow!
不 你读的比我们还多！ No, you read more than we do!
不 说真的 No, seriously,
我们应该更像你 里德先生！ we should be more like you, Mr. Reed!
里德先生 Mr. "Read."
派闻起来太棒了 The pie smells amazing.
现在你已经研究了《摩门经》 And now that you've been studying The Book of Mormon,
它让你感觉如何？ how does it make you feel?
你能猜到她在做什么派吗？ Can you guess what kind of pie she's making?
是... Is it...
蓝莓派吗？ blueberry pie?
确实是蓝莓派！ It is blueberry pie!
是的！我就知道！ Yes! I knew it!
我最喜欢的！ My favorite!
回到刚才的话题 我能问一下 Going back, can I ask
你父亲是怎么去世的吗？ how did your father pass away?
- 嗯... - 对不起 - Um... -I'm sorry.
- 我不应该... - 渐冻症 - I shouldn't... - Lou Gehrig's disease.
蓝莓病？ Blueberry disease?
好吧 那是... Okay, that's...
那是...那真是太好了 蓝莓病 That's... that's wonderful, blueberry disease.
谁不想得那个呢？是啊 Who wouldn't want that? Yeah.
呃... Uh...
卢·埃里格病 Lou Gehrig's disease.
埃里格病 Gehrig's.
哦,那真是...太可怕了 Oh, that's... that's awful.
我很抱歉 我...我...我听错了 I'm so sorry. I... I... I misheard.
那是一种恶性疾病 That is a malicious affliction.
我...我以为你在开玩笑 I... I thought you were making a joke
说派的事 我很抱歉 about the pie. I'm sorry.
是啊 Yeah.
你父亲去世后,你有见过他的迹象吗? Have you seen any signs of your father since he passed?
他有试图从另一边与你沟通吗? Has he tried to communicate from the other side?
嗯,没有 Mmm, no.
奇怪 Strange.
好吧,我... Well, I'm...
我真的很抱歉,也为那个... I'm really sorry, and I'm sorry about the...
蓝莓的误会道歉 blueberry mix-up.
没关系 It's okay.
当我死后,我想变成一只蝴蝶, When I die, I want to come back as a butterfly,
只为了跟随我爱的人 just to follow around the people I love.
我会直接落在他们的手上 I'll land right on their hand.
不是他们的胳膊,不是他们的...头, Not their arm, not their... their head,
而是直接落在他们的指尖,这样他们就知道是我 right on their fingertip, so they know it's me.
啊 Ah.
那很甜蜜 That's sweet.
哦! Oh!
抱歉!这是这房子的一个小毛病 Apologies! That is a foible of the house.
对不起 它经常这样 它经常这样 I'm sorry. It does that. It does that.
嗯,好吧... Um, well...
女士们,我现在看不到你们了 Ladies, I can't see you now.
- 嗯,我想是时候了 - 嗯 - Um, I think it is time. - Hmm.
什么时候? Time for what?
吃派的时候! Time for pie!
派! Pie!
喔呼! Woohoo!
还有,呃,启发的时候 And, uh, time for enlightenment.
哦? Oh?
对不起,我应该给你们水的 I'm sorry, I should have offered you water.
智慧之言禁止 The word of wisdom forbids
咖啡因和酒精,对吧? caffeine and alcohol, doesn't it?
嗯,它并没有特别提到苏打水 Well, it doesn't, uh, specifically mention soda.
当然,避免含咖啡因的饮料可能更健康, Sure, it may be healthier to avoid caffeinated drinks,
但我们只是不渴 but we're just not thirsty.
啊哈 Aha.
你们对尴尬的问题有什么看法? How do you feel about awkward questions?
那个梗? The meme?
呵,不是 我想问一个尴尬的,呃, Heh, no. I want to ask an awkward, uh,
一个令人不快的问题, an icky question,
一个不敏感的问题,我认为 an insensitive question that I think
这会给我们的谈话增添深度 will add depth to our conversation
在太阳下山之前非常快速地 very quickly before the sun goes down
今晚我们就结束了 and we're done for the evening.
但前提是你们觉得没问题 But only if you're comfortable with that.
好吧,在你问之前我们也不知道 Well, we won't know if we're comfortable
- 我们是否觉得没问题,所以... - 说得对 - until you ask, so... - Fair point.
也许你直接问吧? Maybe you just ask?
好的 Okay.
如果你不问, If you don't ask,
我离开这里时 会想知道我们错过了什么 I'm gonna leave here wondering what we missed out on.
好吧 我的问题是这样的 呃... Very well. My question is this. Um...
现在我觉得气氛已经酝酿好了 呃... Now I feel it's been built up to. Uh...
我要不要请求一个鼓点? Should I request a drum roll?
我要请求一个鼓点 I'm going to request a drum roll.
女士们,请给我一个鼓点! A drum roll please, ladies!
继续!继续!继续! Keep going! Keep going! Keep going!
再多一点!再多一点!再多一点! More! More! More!
现在,我....我的问题是, Now, I... I... I... my question is,
你们对一夫多妻制怎么看? how do you feel about polygamy?
你们...你们对于 How do you... how do you feel about the concept of
一个男人有多个妻子这个概念怎么看? a man having multiple wives?
我的意思是...这对我来说不适合,呃... I mean, it's... it's not for me, um...
你是从圣经的角度来问这个问题吗? Are you asking from a biblical perspective?
呃,摩门教在历史上有一个有争议的 Uh, Mormonism has a controversial history
男性歧视女性的做法 with the misogynist practice
就是男人可以娶多个妻子 of men claiming multiple wives.
但我对现代启示的概念很感兴趣, But I am fascinated by the idea of Modern Revelation,
它被用来在1890年 which was used to erase this behavior
从教会中消除这种行为 from the church in 1890.
我觉得这值得讨论 I just think that's worthy of conversation.
是吧?呃... Yeah? Uh...
我的意思是 And what I mean by that
我们在讨论的是一个教会 is that we're discussing a church that
它决定一个有争议的做法 decided that a controversial practice
玷污了它的声誉,实际上阻碍了 was a stain on its reputation, and an actual hindrance
招募新成员,所以它利用启示, to recruiting new members, and so it used revelation,
上帝告诉先知的话 word of God told unto the prophet
来禁止一个在现代看来 to banish a provocative religious pillar
令人不快的宗教支柱 that seemed unsavory in contemporary times.
是的,我知道,呃, Yeah, I know that, um,
这可能很难理解,呃, it may be difficult to understand, um,
但是,呃,一夫多妻制是当时 but, uh, polygamy was a spiritual mission
需要的一项精神使命 needed at the time in order
为了扩大我们教会成员的队伍 to grow the ranks of our membership
在经历了许多艰难和流血之后 in the wake of much hardship and bloodshed.
嗯...一个男人有多个妻子 Um... a man having plural wives
意味着...更多的婴儿来帮助社区发展 meant more... more babies to help the community grow.
嗯 Hmm.
是的 这肯定是有争议的 It's, yeah, it's sketch for sure,
- 对我们现代人来说 - 而且它被... - to our modern brains. -And it was...
它被教会废除不仅是因为 it was removed from the church not just because
它令人反感或有争议 it was grotesque or controversial,
而只是因为它不再必要了 but just because it wasn't necessary anymore.
你看 我担心 而且... You see, I worry, and...
请原谅我用词激烈 forgive my loud language,
呃 uh,
我担心约瑟·斯密利用一夫多妻的概念 I worry that Joseph Smith used the concept of polygamy
来为他与其他女性的外遇正当化 to legitimize his affairs with other women.
我担心约瑟的妻子艾玛·斯密 I worry that Joseph's wife, Emma Smith,
当他与芬妮·阿尔杰发生关系时非常不安 was upset when he slept with Fanny Alger,
芬妮是他们16岁的女仆 their sixteen-year-old maid.
我担心他制定了一个计划 I worry that he formulated a plan
利用启示来进行无后果的性行为 to use revelation for consequence-free sex
在那次不当行为之后 in the aftermath of that indiscretion
以及其他类似的行为 and others like it.
你知道 "能力越大 责任越大 " You know, "With great power comes great responsibility."
蜘蛛侠 Spiderman.
伏尔泰 Voltaire.
对 Right.
我想向大家提出的是 我担心 I guess what I would pose to the room is my concern
一夫多妻制完全没有精神意义 that polygamy has no spiritual bearing whatsoever.
这有些歪曲事实 我认为... That is somewhat of a distortion, I think...
教会自己的历史证实 The church's own history corroborates
并暗示了这一点... and implies this...
...这种玩世不恭的洗脑策略 ...cynical brainwashing tactic.
是这样吗？ Is that true?
我...我...对不起 I... I... I'm sorry,
我...我不确定你从哪里得到这些信息 I... I'm not sure where you're getting this.
如果上帝的启示是通过人来传达的 If revelation by God is filtered through man
而人是有缺陷的 人会犯罪 人会说谎 and man is flawed and man sins and man lies,
那我们怎么知道 其中任何一点是真的呢？ then how do we know any of it's true?
我们知道它是真的 因为它让我们有什么感觉 We know it's true because of how it makes us feel.
对了！没错！ Bingo! That's exactly right!
完全正确 我完全同意 That's exactly right. Couldn't agree more.
重要的是我们与上帝的个人关系 It's our personal relationship with God which matters.
让我们和我们的主教谈谈 Let us talk with our bishop
你提出的一些观点 嗯... about some of the points you're raising. Um...
问题 你最喜欢的快餐是什么? Question. What's your favorite fast food?
我尽量不吃快餐 I try not to eat it.
我们都不吃,但说实话,我们都有最爱的 None of us do, but go on, we've all got one.
嗯... Um...
好吧 汉堡王比卡尔斯二世好... Okay. Burger King is better than Carl's Junior...
什么是卡尔斯二世? What's Carl's Junior?
东海岸的哈迪斯 Hardee's on the East Coast.
汉堡王比哈迪斯好 Burger King is better than Hardee's
哈迪斯又比拉力赛好... which is better than Rally's...
- 拉力赛? - 棋盘格 - Rally's? - Checkers.
汉堡王比 Burger King is better
哈迪斯好,哈迪斯比棋盘格好, than Hardee's, which is better than Checkers,
棋盘格比温蒂好 温蒂比In-N-Out（连锁汉堡店）好, which is better than Wendy's, which is better than In-N-Out,
In-N-Out比麦当劳好, which is better than McDonalds,
麦当劳比杰克盒子好, which is better than Jack in the Box,
杰克盒子比没有好 which is better than nothing.
杰克盒子全天供应早餐 Jack in the Box serves breakfast all day.
我喜欢早餐! I love breakfast!
塔可钟呢? What about Taco Bell?
我们不谈论塔可钟 We don't talk about Taco Bell.
为什么我们不谈论塔可钟? Why don't we talk about Taco Bell?
我们得谈论塔可钟才能谈论... We'd have to talk about,Taco Bell to talk about...
为什么我们不谈论塔可钟 why we don't talk about Taco Bell.
好吧,那么...所以汉堡王是第一名 All right, so... so Burger King is number one.
- 我觉得它是垃圾 - 哦 - I think it's trash. - Oh.
对 不是杰克盒子 Right. Not Jack in the Box.
我投温蒂一票 I vote Wendy's.
我可以支持 I could support.
好!就温蒂了 是的 Good! Wendy's it is. Yeah.
你知道吗?我从未吃过温蒂 Do you know? I've never had a Wendy.
这话说得有点不对劲 That came out wrong.
没关系 It's okay.
所以当我开始研究神学时, So when I started studying theology,
我最不想做的就是找出... the last thing,I wanted to do was find...
宗教界的温蒂 the Wendy's of religions.
我只是在为大学课程 I was just writing a research paper
写一篇研究论文,我满足于浅尝辄止 for a college class, and I was content with dabbling.
所以,这里吃点麦乐鸡,那里来个汉堡王皇堡, So, some McNuggets here, BK Whopper over there,
随心所欲 whatever fit the mood.
当我研究这些流派,麦当劳、汉堡王、In-N-Out, As I studied the genres, McD, BK, In-N-Out,
即摩门教、科学教、伊斯兰教、佛教, i.e., Mormonism, Scientology, Islam, Buddhism,
当我更接近上帝时 as I got closer to God
通过深入研究和严谨学习 through genre and rigorous study,
当我努力改善我与天父的 as I worked on my personal relationship
个人关系,并认为加强了这种关系时 with Heavenly Father, and I think strengthened it,
你知道我发现了什么吗？ do you know what I found?
知道得越多 就越发现自己无知 The more you know, the less you know.
到我50岁时 我已经因为... And by the time I was 50, I was malnourished
近十年来塞进大脑的 宗教快餐而营养不良 from the fast food of religion,I'd been packing into my brain
每个教派、邪教、信条、教会 for the best part of a decade.
都声称自己是唯一真正的教义 Every sect, cult, creed, denomination
然而在显微镜下观察时 all claimed to be the one, true doctrine,
没有一个看起来是真实的 and yet none seemed true when held under the microscope.
所以我想知道还有什么别的东西 So I wondered what else was out there.
我向你保证 I promise you,
我最不想做的事就是 the last thing I wanted to do
找到唯一真正的宗教 was find the one true religion.
但不幸的是 我找到了 But unfortunately, I did.
我们能见见你的妻子吗？ Can we meet your wife?
拜托了？ Please?
当然可以 没问题！ Of course, yes!
她只需要在场 我们也想 She just has to be present, and we want
- 见见她 - 好的 - to meet her as well. -Yeah.
抱歉 我去...我去问问 Sorry. I'll... I'll go ask.
巴恩斯姐妹 我不...我不知道 Sister Barnes, I don't... I don't know.
是的 我不想吓到他 Yeah, I don't want to spook him,
但我们应该结束了 but we should wrap this.
有什么消息吗？ Any messages?
没有 Nothing.
好吧 嗯... Okay. Um...
让我们礼貌地结束这次拜访然后回去 let's just politely wrap this and head back.
只说重点... Just the highlights...
她终于准备好了 And she is finally ready.
抱歉让你们久等了 Sorry about that.
请进来 她很想...见你们 Come on through. She's eager to... meet you.
就这儿 There we are.
- 这边 - 好的 - This way. - Okay.
稍等一下 里德先生 呃 我们刚接到 One moment, Mr. Reed. Uh, we're just getting a call
慈助会会长的电话 from the Relief Society president.
- 我们马上就来 - 哦 你们需要一点时间吗？ - We'll be right there. - Oh, do you need a minute?
你好 Hi.
- 这是巴恩斯姐妹 嗯... - 我会等的 - This is Sister Barnes. Um... - I'll wait.
- 我会在另一边等 - 好的 稍等一下 - I'll wait on the other side. - Yeah. Just one moment.
- 谢谢 - 好的 - Thank you. - Yeah.
- 我们应该离开吗？ - 现在？ - Should we leave? - Now?
- 是吗？ - 是吗？是的 - Yeah? - Yes? Yes.
怎么了？ What is it?
我们的自行车 Our bikes.
是的？ Yeah?
它们锁在外面 They're locked outside.
那又怎样？ So what?
他拿着我们的外套 He has our coats.
自行车锁的钥匙在我的外套口袋里 The key to the bike lock is in my coat pocket.
所以我们需要我们的外套 So we need our coats.
是的 Yeah.
- 我们确实需要 - 我不知道 我们需要吗？ - We do. - I don't know, do we?
没有外套和自行车走回去？ Walk back without coats and bikes?
那是多远 两英里吗？ What is that, two miles?
不 我觉得是四英里 No, I think it's four.
这有点过分 但我... It's a little over the top, but I...
我没问题 我可以走路 是吧？ I'm fine. I'm fine to walk, yeah?
- 它卡住了 - 把它解锁 - It's stuck. - Unlock it.
没有...锁 There's no... lock.
什么？用力拉 What? Pull harder.
来 来 Here. Here.
好吧 All right.
他还在那里吗？ Is he still there?
我们不是听到他离开了吗？ Didn't we hear him leave?
你确定吗？ Are you sure?
我们要向他求助吗？ Should we ask him for help?
不 No.
你能从这里钻过去吗？ Can you fit through this?
你疯了吗？ You crazy?
呃 我们应该试试霍尔姐妹 好吗？ Um, we should try Sister Hall, okay?
或者肯尼迪长老 至少让他们知道我们在哪里 Or Elder Kennedy, just so they know where we are.
打不通 It's not going through.
是暴风雨的原因 继续尝试 好吗？ It's the storm. Keep trying, okay?
好的 Okay.
我们要求助 嗯？ We ask for help, hmm?
没事的 It'll be fine.
里德先生？ Mr. Reed?
他们来了！欢迎 And there they are! Welcome.
里德先生 您太慷慨了 Mr. Reed, you have been too generous with your time.
帕克斯顿姐妹和我刚才还在说 Sister Paxton and I were just saying
这真是一次愉快的经历 what a pleasure it's been.
呃 但我们刚刚接到霍尔姐妹的电话 Um, but we just got off the phone with Sister Hall,
她需要我们回到教堂 and she needs us to return to the church.
-哦！哦 好吧... - 很遗憾 是的 -Oh! Oh, well... - Unfortunately, yeah.
如果你们想离开 我不会挽留你们 I won't keep you if you wish to leave.
我们被召回去了 We've been summoned back.
是的 Yeah.
该死！该死 因为我们才刚刚 Damn it! Damn it, 'cause we were just
开始 不是吗？ getting started, weren't we?
你知道 你让我觉得也许你们 You know, you had me thinking that maybe you were
这次拜访有些特别之处 onto something with your visit.
我印象深刻 但我理解 I've been impressed, but I understand.
呃 是的 你们的外套在这里 Uh, yeah, your coats are here,
挂在长椅的后面 hanging on the back of the pew.
请原谅我失陪一下 Excuse me one moment.
好的 Yeah.
钥匙 Key.
所以...所以我们只是 呃 需要你帮忙 So... so we just, uh, need your help
开门 嗯... with the door. Um...
门...门有点不好开 It's... it's a little tricky.
对不起 你说什么？ I'm sorry?
我想你那边的门好像有点卡住了 I think your door is a bit stuck out there.
门打不开 The door won't open.
前门 The front door.
是的 前门又打不开了 Yeah, the front door won't open again.
我们进来的时候还能打开呢 It opened when we came in.
是啊 Yeah.
也许你把它解锁 它就能打开了？ Maybe if you unlock it, it will open?
不 不 我...我明白你们在问什么 No, no, I... I... I understand what you're asking me,
但是 呃 but, uh,
门栓是定时的 the deadbolts are on a timer.
我聊天时太投入了 I got carried away with our conversation,
没注意到门栓已经锁上了 I didn't realize the brace had been set.
你们进来的时候我应该拔掉销子的 I should have pulled the pin when you came in,
但我忘了 所以如果你们现在 but I forgot. So if you are now
遗憾地想要离开 regrettably ready to leave,
你们得从我房子的后门出去 you'll have to exit through the back of my house.
呃 在哪里？ Uh, where?
就从这里过去 Just through here.
呃 你能不能直接把前门解锁呢 拜托了？ Well, can you just unlock the front one, please?
我们想从那边走 We would like to go that way.
这样我们出去后就不会迷路 Just so we don't get turned around
和感到困惑 and confused when we get outside.
是啊 它要到早上才能再次打开 Yeah, it won't open again,'til morning.
拜托 先生？ Please, sir?
哦 我很抱歉 Oh, I'm sorry.
我向你们保证 从这边离开是安全的 I promise you, it's safe to leave this way.
嗯？ Huh?
有一扇门是定时 It's a little unusual to have a door
锁上的 这有点不寻常？ that, um, locks on a timer?
呃... Uh...
是的 我明白 Yes, well, I see that.
是啊 Yeah.
而且这... And it's...
嗯 不能解锁这点也有点不寻常 Well, it's a little unusual that it can't be unlocked.
不 我...我...我知道 No, I... I... I know.
我很清楚这看起来可能有点奇怪 I am self-aware enough to know how this might look.
一个年长的男人 两个年轻女性在他家里 Older man, two young women in his house,
但我向你们保证 你们随时可以离开 but I assure you, you are welcome to leave
从...从后面 through... through the back.
你从外面看过我的房子,对吧? You saw my house from the outside, right?
嗯嗯 没错! Mm-hmm. Right!
所以,你知道它的占地面积很小 So, you know it's a tiny footprint.
房子的后面就在那里 The back of the house is just there.
是的 Yeah.
总之,我会给你空间自由地做出决定 Anyway, I will leave you space to make your decision freely.
好的 Yeah.
为了说明,我正在尝试... To clarify, I am trying...
一直在非常努力地强调 have been trying very hard to make it a point
不给你压力, not to pressure you,
所以你甚至不应该觉得有必要 so you shouldn't even feel the need
编造一个你病房里有人 to fabricate a story about someone from your ward
打电话让你离开的故事 这...完全没问题 calling you to leave. It's... perfectly fine.
你想什么时候离开就什么时候离开 Leave when you want.
这不是借口,他们确实需要我们回去 It wasn't an excuse, they do need us back.
不,我知道,但你说你接了 No, I know, but you're saying you took a call
你病房里某人的电话 with someone from your ward.
是的,刚刚 Yeah, a moment ago.
但当你进来时,我问你是否介意 But when you came inside, I asked if you were okay
墙壁和天花板里的金属 with the metal in the walls and ceilings.
你什么意思? What do you mean?
我是说金属会阻挡手机信号, I mean that the metal obstructs cell phone signals,
所以我知道你没有接电话 但是... so I do know you didn't take a call. But...
我只是想说清楚, Just to be clear,
让你感到舒服, so you're comfortable,
你完全可以自己决定离开 it is totally fine for you to leave on your own accord.
你永远不需要觉得必须... You never need to feel like you have to...
...找借口或者...或者告诉我一些... ...make excuses or... or tell me little...
小...小...小谎言 little... little white lies.
那么哪扇门可以让我们出去? So which door takes us outside?
呃 Pff.
嗯...你有偏好吗? Well... do you have a preference?
什...为什么我会有偏好? Wh... why would I have a preference?
我们应该有偏好吗? Should we have a preference?
这是个公平的问题 That is a fair question.
不是要完全奇怪,但你的妻子能不能 Not to be completely weird, but can your wife
请进来房间, please just step in the room,
打个招呼然后带我们到房子后面? say hello and walk us to the back of the house?
我不是想无理取闹, I'm not trying to be silly,
我保证,我真的不是, I promise, I'm really not,
但我们有规则要遵守 我们一开始就说得很清楚 but there are rules we follow, and we were upfront with them.
我去问问 I will ask.
我能先问你一个问题吗？ Can I ask you a question first?
你... Do you...
还相信我妻子在隔壁房间吗？ still believe that my wife is in the next room?
尽管有所有相反的证据 Despite all the evidence to the contrary,
香薰蜡烛 the scented candle,
没有烤蓝莓派的烤箱？ the absence of an oven with blueberry pie?
还是你一直在礼貌地纵容一个谎言？ Or have you been politely indulging a lie?
如果你还相信她在里面 我可以去问问 If you still believe that she's in there, I'll go ask,
但这是我想让你思考的事情 but it's something,I want you to think about
也许你可以 and maybe think about
在你的信仰背景下思考一下 in the context of your beliefs.
你相信上帝是因为 Do you believe in God because
有人在你容易被影响的年纪 somebody told you at an impressionable age
告诉你上帝是真实的 尽管长大后有疑虑 that God is real, despite having doubts
尽管... as you got older, despite...
你一生都看到相反的证据？ seeing evidence to the contrary your whole lives?
当你父亲失去对身体的控制时 When your father lost control of his body,
你认为这是上帝毁掉他生活的计划吗？ did you think it was,God's plan to ruin his life?
还是你继续相信 Or did you go on believing something
你知道不是真的东西只是为了给自己安慰 that you know is not true just to give you comfort
因为你害怕如果一切都是谎言 because you were afraid of what it might mean
会意味着什么？ if it was all a lie?
我把香薰蜡烛放在桌上 I put the scented candle on the table
是因为我想让你思考 because I wanted you to think
那些你相信的事情 about the things that you believe
仅仅因为有人要求你相信它们 just because somebody asked you to believe them.
能... Can...
能借用你的电话吗？ Can we use your phone?
拜托？ Please?
我...我没有电话 I... I don't have a telephone.
里德先生 你的家真漂亮 You have a really beautiful home, Mr. Reed.
这里就像一座教堂 It's like a church in here.
是你自己建的吗？ Did you build it yourself?
是我妻子建的 My wife built it.
我们要从 We're gonna leave
你房子后面离开 through the back of your house.
可以吗？ Now, is that okay?
当然可以 Of course.
就像你说的 没问题 Just like you said, it's okay,
我们可以离开 对吧？ and we can leave, right?
没错 That's right.
怎么了？ What is it?
巴恩斯姐妹？ Sister Barnes?
那是地下室 That's a basement.
看起来这条路不通向外面 It doesn't look like this goes outside.
我想你们可以看出 我们对今晚的情况 I think that you can tell that we're regrettably
感到非常不舒服 uncomfortable with this situation here tonight.
抱歉 但你刚才不是说 I'm sorry, but didn't you just say a moment ago
你看到了我房子的外部吗？ that you saw the outside of my house?
那么你肯定看到了... So then you clearly saw...
...我房子的后面悬在一个山坡上 ...that the back of my house overhangs a hill,
所以你应该知道你必须往下走... so you would know that you have to go down...
...才能出去 ...in order to go out.
我想对你们和我们所有人来说 I think it would be best for you
最好的办法是你能帮助我们 and for all of us if you could help us
回家 因为 go home because
支联会会长知道我们在哪里 the Stake President, he knows where we are.
还有传教区的传教士也知道 And the Ward,Missionaries know.
他们会等着我们的 And they'll be expecting us.
而且有目击者 对吧 巴恩斯姐妹？ And there were witnesses, weren't there, Sister Barnes?
在来这里的路上 我们还经过了一名警察？ On our way here, we passed a police officer?
哇！警察？我向你保证 Whoa! The police? I promise you,
你们实在是太太太紧张了 you're getting way, way, way, way too worked up.
对 Right.
但我想我们害怕是因为 But I think that we're scared
你之前对我们撒谎了 because you lied to us earlier.
你想让我帮忙吗？ Do you want me to help?
你刚才问我是否应该 You asked me earlier if you should
在门之间有所偏好 have a preference between the doors.
我认为你应该 我觉得这是 I think you should. I think it's something
你需要非常仔细考虑的事情 you should consider very carefully,
然后做出正确的决定 and then make the right decision.
你想要我帮你吗？ Do you want me to help you?
是的 Yes.
好的 Okay.
那么 请... Then, please...
站到这里来 你们两个都过来 come and stand here. Both of you come.
就在这里 Just here.
就是这样 That's it.
这是一个简单的选择 It's a simple choice.
但不应该简单地做出决定 But it should not be made simply.
我需要你们深思熟虑 I need you to reflect very, very deeply
然后做出真诚的决定 and then make a sincere decision.
你们有没有玩过 Have you ever played
帕克兄弟公司的大富翁游戏？ the Parker Brothers game, Monopoly?
大富翁目前以47种语言出版 Monopoly is currently published in 47 languages.
它在114多个国家销售 They sell it in over 114 countries.
♪ 如果我能许一个愿望 ♪ ♪ If I could make a wish ♪
据说有超过10亿人玩过大富翁 They say over a billion people have played Monopoly.
但我猜测这十亿人中只有一小部分 But I'm guessing that only a fraction of that billion
真正玩完了整个游戏 have actually finished it.
也许这让你想起了 Maybe that reminds you
其他什么事情？ of something else?
只是一个想法 Just a thought.
这就是大多数人听到 "大富翁"时想到的东西 This is what most people mean when they hear "Monopoly."
有那些锡制棋子 There's the pewter avatars.
每个人都有自己的最爱 我不会告诉你我的是哪个 Everyone has their favorite. I shall not tell you mine.
喵！ Meow!
还有各种面额的粉色钞票 There's the pastel money in various denominations,
当然 还有监狱 and, of course, the jail.
接下来这部分非常重要 Now, this next part is very important.
你们有没有玩过1904年的一款桌游叫做 Have you ever played the 1904 board game called
《房东游戏》？ The Landlord's Game?
它在每个基本方面都与大富翁 It is very nearly identical to Monopoly
几乎完全相同 有监狱 in every fundamental way. There's the jail.
有免费停车场 There's free parking.
有罚款和费用 有惩罚 There's fines and fees. There's penalties.
落在别人的地产上要付费 for landing on other people's properties,
最终目标是形成垄断 and the ultimate goal of forming monopolies
迫使对手退出游戏 to force your opponent out of the game.
游戏和我们离开有什么关系？ What do games have to do with us leaving?
一切 Everything.
《房东游戏》是由 The Landlord's Game was designed by
美国女权主义者伊丽莎白·麦吉设计的 American feminist,Elizabeth Magie,
比费城的一个暖气推销员 almost three decades before
巴恩斯姐妹将游戏名改为大富翁 a heater salesman from Philadelphia,
并在1935年将这个概念作为自己的发明 Sister Barnes, changed the name to Monopoly
卖给帕克兄弟公司 and sold the concept as his own
早了将近三十年 to Parker Brothers in 1935.
这个叫查尔斯·达罗的家伙 This chap was called,Charles Darrow,
成为了世界历史上第一个 百万富翁游戏设计师 went on to become the first millionaire games designer
而可怜的伊丽莎白·麦吉去世时 in the history of the world, while poor old Elizabeth Magie
却从未因她对美国文化的影响 died without ever being credited for the impact
而得到任何认可 she had on American culture.
我跟你们讲的是 I'm talking to you
迭代 about iterations.
我需要你们对迭代有一个 I need you to have a very basic understanding
非常基本的理解 因为今晚我将提出 of iterating, because I'm going to make
一个非常令人不安的说法 a very disturbing claim tonight.
它会让你们的胃有点下沉 It will make your stomachs sink a little
心跳加快 and your hearts beat faster.
这会让你感到不适 It will make you sick.
它甚至可能...我很抱歉... It may even... I'm very sorry...
让你想要...想要死去 make you want to... to die.
你以前听过这首歌吗？ Have you heard this song before?
你刚刚播放过 You just played it.
不 我是说在今晚之前 No, I mean before tonight.
嗯嗯 Mmm-mmm.
我不同意！ I disagree!
我认为你已经听过很多很多次了 I think you've heard it many, many times before,
但我们稍后会回到这个话题 but we will come back to that.
你是一神论者 对吗？ You are, are you not, monotheistic?
是的 我们相信天父 We believe in Heavenly Father, yes.
好的 Okay.
有三大一神教 There are three major monotheistic religions,
犹太教、基督教和伊斯兰教 Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
我称它们为"三巨头" I call them, "The Big Three."
犹太教 即 Judaism, i.e.
"原始版本" "The Original Edition."
基督教 即"最流行的版本" Christianity, i.e. "The Most Popular Edition,"
以及伊斯兰教 "较新的 and Islam, "The Newer,
第二流行的版本" "Second Most Popular Edition."
我能看看你的摩门经吗？ May I see your Book of Mormon, please?
我会还给你的 I'll give it back.
谢谢 Thank you.
最后 在800年后 这个！ And finally, after 800 years, this!
摩门教 即 Mormonism, i.e.
"古怪的地区衍生版本" "The zany regional spin-off edition."
这些都是同一源材料的 These are all iterations
不同迭代 of the same source material.
这些文本共享许多相同的角色 These texts share many of the same characters
和历史 尽管呈现方式 and histories albeit presented
有不同的含义和观点 with different meanings and perspectives.
所以不 So no,
我不接受...你站在那里 I will not accept... ...that you stand there
告诉我你从未听过 and tell me that you've never heard
霍利乐队的《我呼吸的空气》 The Air That I Breathe by The Hollies,
当我知道你听过电台司令的《爬行者》 when I know that you have heard Creep by Radiohead.
哦 是的 你听过 来吧 Oh, yes, you have. Come on.
♪ 但我是个爬行者！ ♪ ♪ But I'm a creep! ♪
是吧？ Yeah?
♪ 我是个怪人 ♪ ♪ I'm a weirdo ♪
好的！"我在这里做什么？" Okay! "What the hell am I doing here?"
我知道这些是你现在正在想的事情 I know these are things you are thinking right now,
但它们也是你认识的歌词 对吗？ but they're also lyrics you recognize, yes?
对吗？ Yes?
霍利乐队对电台司令提起了抄袭诉讼 The Hollies filed a plagiarism lawsuit against Radiohead,
他们后来通过证明 which they later settled by proving
《我呼吸的空气》的旋律和节奏 that the melody and rhythm of The Air That I Breathe
出现在《蠢货》中来解决这个问题 appear in Creep.
你多大了？19还是20岁？ How old are you? 19 or 20?
- 差不多吧 好的 -嗯 - Something like that. Okay. -Hmm.
所以你可能知道拉娜·德雷, So maybe you know,Lana Del Rey,
她居然被电台司令起诉 who remarkably was sued by Radiohead
抄袭《蠢货》在她2017年的歌曲 for plagiarizing Creep in her 2017 song
《获得自由》中 Get Free.
反复迭代 Iterations.
随着时间推移 Over time.
稀释了信息 Diluting the message.
掩盖了原作 Obscuring the original.
犹太教是最原始的一神教 Judaism is the OG monotheistic religion.
按理说 它应该以很大的优势 It should, by a wide margin,
拥有最多的信徒 然而 have the most number of practicing members. And yet,
它只占世界人口的0.2% it makes up only 0.2% of the world's population.
为什么会这样？ Why is that?
为什么原作不如 Why is the original less popular
衍生作品受欢迎？ than the iteration?
它比其他宗教更不真实吗？ Is it any less true than the others?
我们在谈论宗教还是桌游还是音乐？ Are we talking about religion or board games or music?
是的 Yes.
它的信徒最少是因为它不做广告 It has the fewest members because it doesn't advertise.
它没有像你这样的人 It doesn't have people like you,
敲门推销 knocking on doors,
向人们兜售更好的生活 selling people a better life,
更好的桌游 更好的歌曲 a better board game, a better song.
你有没有想过这一点？ You ever think about that?
传教士其实就是组织的 How missionaries are really just salespeople
销售人员？ for an organization?
你们销售的产品是一种想法 The product you're selling is an idea.
你敲我的门来推销 You knock on my door and you sell,
也许我买 也许我不买 maybe I buy, maybe I don't buy.
这就是我邀请你进我家时 Those are the rules of engagement
的交往规则 when I invite you into my house.
我们在进行一场意识形态的交易谈判 We are negotiating a transaction of ideologies.
我今晚想对你说的是 And what I'm trying to say to you tonight
我有一个想法 我想卖给你 is that I have an idea which,I would like to sell to you.
我的论点是 我们崇敬的圣典 My argument is that the holy texts
只不过是 which we revere
古代人们几个世纪以来 are just mythological iterations of stories
相互讲述的故事 which ancient people have been
的神话化迭代 telling each other for centuries.
从字面意义上讲 它们并不是真实的 They're not true or real in any literal sense.
它们只是通向更古老真理的一个渠道 They are merely a conduit to a more ancient truth.
关于一个救世主的故事... The story of a savior...
他由童贞女所生 who was born to a virgin,
能够创造奇迹 who could perform miracles
并且超自然地复活 and was supernaturally resurrected,
这是一个非常流行的故事 was a very popular story
至少在耶稣诞生前 for at least a thousand years
就已经存在一千多年了 before Jesus was born.
其中一个有金发 One of them has blonde hair,
一个是棕发 两人穿着相似 one of them's brunette, both dressed similar.
不 从未来过 No. Never stopped by.
密特拉创造了奇迹 Mithras performed miracles.
他身上有十字架的标记 He was marked by the sign of the cross.
荷鲁斯在水上行走 Horus, walked on water,
被钉在十字架上 有12个门徒 was crucified, had 12 disciples.
克里希纳是个木匠 由童贞女所生 Krishna, he was a carpenter, born to a virgin,
在河中受洗 从死里复活 baptized in a river, rose from the dead
升入天堂 and ascended into heaven.
这个小画廊描绘了12位神 This little gallery depicts 12 gods
他们都出生于12月25日 who were born on December the 25th,
且都比耶稣的存在更早 all of whom predate the existence of Jesus.
我很抱歉 I am sorry,
但我们不能忽视 一个叙事对另一个的影响 but it is impossible to ignore the influence
也不能忽视这些故事 of one narrative upon another,
都演变成了... or to ignore the fact that all these stories
星球大战： iterate into...
第一集 - 幽灵的威胁 Star Wars: Episode I -,The Phantom Menace.
你能想象几千年后 Can you imagine thousands of years from now
人们会接受贾贾 people accepting Jar Jar
作为一个重要的宗教人物吗？ as a significant religious figure?
你说什么？ Beg your pardon?
贾贾 贾贾·宾克斯 Jar Jar. Jar Jar Binks.
贾贾！请原谅我 Jar Jar! Ex-squeeze me.
别在意 Never mind.
这一切都很可怕 不是吗？我很抱歉 It is all terrifying, isn't it? I'm sorry.
是的 It is.
确实是... It is all...
可怕 Scary.
我很害怕 I'm scared.
说实话 我只是大声 说出来就感到害怕 I'm scared just saying it out loud, really.
如果上帝是真实的 他看着我们自慰 If God is real, and he watches when we masturbate,
而且他的自尊心如此脆弱 只有当我们 and he has such a fragile ego that he only helps us
乞求他并用赞美淹没他时 他才帮助我们 when we beg him and shower him with praise,
而且他讨厌同性恋者 and he hates gay people
因为他们成为他创造的样子, for being what he made them to be,
嗯,那真是可怕 well, that's terrifying.
如果没有上帝 If there's no God
我们只是一群好色的微小蚂蚁 and we're just horny, microscopic ants
漂浮在太空中的一块岩石上 floating on a rock through space
没有神圣目的 with no divine purpose
也没有希望获得永生, and no hope to achieve eternal life,
那么... well...
那也很可怕 that's terrifying too.
"要么教会是真实的,要么它是骗局 " "Either the church is true or it is a fraud."
"它要么是上帝的教会和国度, "It is the church and kingdom of God,
"要么它什么都不是 " "or it is nothing."
你同意这个观点吗? Do you agree with that?
如果我告诉你这是戈登·兴格莱说的, Would it help if I told you this is Gordon B. Hinckley,
你们教会的第15任总会会长,会有帮助吗? the 15th President of your church.
- 你同意戈登的观点吗? - 是的 - Do you agree with Gordon? - Yes.
嗯嗯 我想你会同意 Mm-hmm. Thought you might.
所以要么全是真的 So either it is all true
要么全是假的,对吗? or none of it's true, yes?
是的 嗯嗯 Yes. Mm-hmm.
好的 Okay.
那么我要你根据你的信仰 Then I want you to choose which door
选择要通过哪扇门 to go through based on your faith.
你是... Are...
你是在要求我们 are you asking us
考虑我们对教会的信仰吗? for us to deliberate our belief in the church?
这是决定我们能否回家的 Is that a factor which will correspond
一个因素吗? to us going home?
我是在要求你们在信仰 I'm asking you to choose between belief
和不信之间做出选择 and disbelief.
我的观点是,今天世界上存在的 所有10,000种可验证的宗教...... My own claim is that all,10,000 verifiable religions
都是人为的, that exist in the world today
就像你们现在站着的这个象征性教堂 are as artificial as the symbolic church
一样人为 you are currently standing in.
这是一场闹剧 It is farce.
这里没有什么神圣的东西 There is nothing holy here.
你们的宗教经文只是装饰品... Your religious text is mere ornament...
...和这些荒谬的游戏一样 ...as hollow and as capitalistic
空洞且资本主义 as these ridiculous games.
我想知道在我们选择之前 I want to know what is going to happen to us
- 会发生什么 - 我甚至不知道 - before we choose. - I don't even know
如何回答这个问题 how to begin to answer that question
如果它还没有发生的话 if it hasn't happened yet.
哇,里德先生, Wow, Mr. Reed,
你提出了很多有趣的观点 you've introduced a lot of interesting points.
我想我们可以承认 你是一个非常聪明的人 I think we can admit that you're a very smart man
而我们还有很多要学习的 and we still have a lot to learn.
所以基于此 我想同意 So with that, I would like to agree
你已经... that you've...
说服了我们 convinced us,
我们想要通过 and we'd like to leave
不信之门离开 现在回家 through the disbelief door and go home now.
对吧 巴恩斯姐妹？ Right, Sister Barnes?
姐妹？ Sister?
巴恩斯姐妹？ Sister Barnes?
我觉得我们应该听从我们这位超级整洁 I think we should listen to our super neat
又体贴的主人 选择正确的门？ and thoughtful host and choose the right door?
你知道 选择"正确"？ You know, choose the "right"?
就像他们在初级班教我们的那样？ Like they taught us in primary?
这并不... It doesn't...
重要你对他说什么 matter what you say to him.
他不会因为我们承认他是对的 He's not gonna let us go
就让我们离开 just because we admit he's right.
趁我们的主人还慷慨地允许我们离开 Let's just get out of here while our host is being
我们赶紧离开这里吧 gracious enough to let us leave.
我认为我们正在被研究 I think that we're being studied.
我觉得他想根据我们打开哪扇门 I think he wants to learn something about us
来了解我们的一些情况 based on which door we open.
这就是游戏吗？ Is that the game?
有人挠脖子 他在观察 Someone scratches their neck, and he's watching.
我们说错话 他就会结巴 We say the wrong thing, and he stumbles on his words.
蜡烛火焰闪烁 就会吸引他的注意力 A candle flame flickers, and it captures his attention.
你一直在寻找什么？ What have you been looking for?
你发现了什么？ What have you found?
如果我是对的 If I'm right,
那么现在唯一重要的就是 then the only thing that matters right now
我们真正相信什么 is what we actually believe.
而且因为我认为你的言辞很苍白 And because I think your rhetoric is thin,
你那车库拍卖会的棋盘游戏比喻 and your garage sale board game metaphor
有点冒犯人 is kind of offensive.
我是说 你问为什么犹太教只占世界人口的 I mean, you asked why Judaism only makes up
0.2% 0.2% of the world's population
却连停顿一下提及大屠杀都没有 but didn't even pause for the Holocaust.
你完全没有提到犹太人所面临的宗教迫害 You make no acknowledgement of the religious persecution
你只是把它当作 Jewish people have faced.
一个关于传教士的 You just use it as a setup
笑话的铺垫 to a punchline about missionaries.
然后 你跳过了这一切 And then, you skip over the fact
都没有涉及伊斯兰教的事实 that none of this addresses Islam,
穆斯林甚至不相信基督复活了 as Muslims don't even believe,Christ was resurrected.
然后 你指出了这些神话中的神 And then, you point out all the similarities
与耶稣的所有相似之处 these mythological gods have with Jesus,
却轻描淡写了许多明显的不同之处！ but breeze over the many glaring differences!
其中一个家伙有一个该死的鸟头！ One of these guys has a freaking bird head!
我不认为...我的观点... I don't think... that my point of view...
能归类为信或不信 fits into belief or disbelief.
我认为有一整个光谱 I think there's an entire spectrum
是你的游戏忽视了的 that your game is neglecting.
所以我相信什么并不重要 对吗？ So it doesn't matter what I believe, does it?
帕克斯顿修女 你还相信上帝吗？ Sister Paxton, do you still believe in God?
是的 Yes.
那我们从这里离开吧 Then let's leave through here.
让我们诚实而真诚 Let's be honest and sincere
让上帝决定我们接下来的命运 and let God decide what happens next for us.
好的 我们现在要离开了 Okay, we're leaving now.
感谢你所有的指导 Thank you for all your mentorship,
也感谢你让我们离开 and thank you for letting us leave.
你也要来吗？ Are you coming too?
修女... Sister...
没关系 It's okay.
一步一步来 我们会慢慢来的 One step at a time. We'll go slow.
巴恩斯修女 什么都没有 Sister Barnes, there's nothing.
全都被堵住了 It's all blocked off.
你觉得他想要什么？ What do you think he wants?
他会永远把我们关在这里吗？ Is he gonna keep us here forever?
不 他太聪明了 他... No, he's too smart. He...
他知道长老会来检查我们 而且... He knows an Elder will check on us, and...
这意味着他要么得放我们走 要么... which means he'll either have to let us go or...
杀了我们 kill us.
从现在开始 如果他提出一个哲学观点 From now on, if he lands a philosophical point
是我们不同意的 我们就挑战他 that we don't agree with, we challenge him.
我们让他思考 We make him think.
他不必压倒性地胜过我们 He doesn't have to steam roll us.
我们可能不是身体上的威胁 We might not be a physical threat,
但我们可以成为智力上的威胁 but we can be an intellectual one.
我觉得那个窗户上有栅栏 I think that window has a cage on it.
你说得对 You're right.
他来了 他来了 He's coming. He's coming.
拿着这个 Take this.
拿着这个 把它放回去 Take this. Put it back.
如果发生任何事情 你就拿这个 If anything happens, you take this,
然后用尽全力 and you stab him in the neck as hard
快速地刺向他的脖子 and as fast as you can.
- 不!不,不要! - 必须是你来做 - No! No, no! - It has to be you.
他监视我太紧了 He's watching me too closely.
- 他不会料到我们会这么做 - 姐姐,不行! - He won't expect us to do it. - Sister, no!
好吧 我们用个暗号吧 Okay. Let's have a code word.
好吗?嗯... Okay? Um...
嘿,如果我说"神奇内裤", Hey, if I say,"magic underwear,"
那就表示要刺杀 明白吗? that means stab. Okay?
他来了 He's coming.
神奇内裤 那就是暗号 明白吗? Magic underwear. That's the code word. Okay?
里德先生? Mr. Reed?
里德太太? Mrs. Reed?
是你吗? Is that you?
她怎么了? What's happening to her?
♪ 但我是个怪胎 ♪ ♪ But I'm a creep ♪
♪ 我是个古怪的人 ♪ ♪ I'm a weirdo ♪
里德先生? Mr. Reed?
你在哪里? Where are you?
♪ 无法直视你的眼睛 ♪ ♪ Couldn't look you in the eye ♪
♪ 你就像个天使 ♪ ♪ You're just like an angel ♪
♪ 你的肌肤让我流泪 ♪ ♪ Your skin makes me cry ♪
不 No.
♪ 我是个怪胎 ♪ ♪ And I'm a creep ♪
♪ 我想掌控一切 ♪ ♪ I wanna have control ♪
♪ 我想要完美的身体 ♪ ♪ I want a perfect body ♪
♪ 我想要完美的灵魂 ♪ ♪ I want a perfect soul ♪
♪ 我想让你注意到 ♪ ♪ I want you to notice ♪
♪ 我不在身边时 ♪ ♪ When I'm not around ♪
♪ 你是如此特别 ♪ ♪ You're so very special ♪
♪ 但我是个怪胎 ♪ ♪ But I'm a creep ♪
♪ 我是个古怪的人 ♪ ♪ I'm a weirdo ♪
♪ 我在这里干什么? ♪ ♪ What the hell am I doin' here? ♪
♪ 我不属于这里 ♪ ♪ I don't belong here ♪
在介绍她之前,我必须确定 I had to be sure
你是否可靠 before I introduced you to her.
确定什么? Sure about what?
你现在正在 You are now in the presence
上帝的活着的先知面前 of a living prophet of God.
我邀请你今晚 The reason,I invited you
来到我的圣所的原因是 into my sanctuary tonight is because
我见证了一个奇迹 I have been shown a miracle.
我相信这个奇迹证明了 I believe this miracle is proof
所有已知的宗教都明显是错误的, that all known religions are demonstrably false,
只是某种真理的古老回响 and only an ancient echo of something true.
我需要一个见证人, I need a witness,
你,来验证这个奇迹是真实的 you, to verify that the miracle is real.
现在,我们家的蓝莓派配方 Now, our family recipe for blueberry pie is,
我想是传统的 I think, a traditional one.
配料包括黄油、面粉、玉米淀粉, The ingredients include butter, flour, corn starch,
糖、柠檬、 sugar, lemon,
当然还有蓝莓 blueberries, of course,
但今晚我还加入了一些乌头 but tonight I've also included some wolf's bane
和颠茄 and some belladonna,
这意味着 不久之后 which means that, in a short while,
先知吃了这个派就会死 the Prophet will be dead from consuming the pie.
然后 Then,
你们将见证一个奇迹 you will witness a miracle.
借上帝之恩 By the grace of God,
她将复活 she will be resurrected.
现在 请感受她的脉搏 Now, feel her pulse, please.
你们两个都来 Both of you.
我需要你们 I need you
现在就感受她的脉搏！ to feel her pulse right now!
请确认 Acknowledge, please,
她的心脏现在已经停止跳动了 that her heart has now stopped pumping.
你们知道怎么做吗？ Do you know how to do that?
食指和中指放在脖子侧面 Index and middle finger on the side of the neck,
在气管旁边的柔软凹陷处 in the soft, hollow area just beside the windpipe.
你们两个 请抬起她的头以确认 Both of you, please, lift her head to be sure.
她动了！她动了！ She moved! She moved!
那只是临终的抽搐 That was just a catalytic spasm.
她还活着！ She's alive!
不！不 不 还没有 No! No, no. Not yet.
只是化学物质释放到她体内 Chemicals being released into her body.
请确认没有脉搏 Acknowledge, please, that there's no pulse.
确认！ Acknowledge!
- 没有 没有脉搏 - 没有脉搏 - No. No pulse. - No pulse.
谢谢 Thank you.
请确认她已经停止呼吸了 Acknowledge that she is no longer breathing.
你们感觉到呼吸吗？ Do you feel a breath?
没有 没有 No. No.
所以她已经死了 是的 So she's dead. Yes.
好的 Okay.
谢谢 Thank you.
再等一会儿 你们就会见证一次复活 A moment longer, and you will witness a resurrection.
她会回来 然后告诉我们 She'll return and she will tell us
她在来世看到了什么 what she saw in the afterlife.
先知有动静吗？ Has the Prophet moved?
没有 No.
喂？ Hello?
- 没有 没有 - 嗯-嗯 - No. No. - Mmm-mmm.
好的 稍等一下 All right. Just un momentino.
再等一会儿 Only a moment longer.
长老们？ The Elders?
- 我们尖叫 - 我们尖叫 - We scream. - We scream.
但要等到他开门后再叫 But not until he answers the door.
他回来了 尖叫！尖叫！ He's coming back. Scream! Scream!
来了！ Coming!
啊！对不起！ Ah! Sorry!
我刚才在后面 I was at the back.
- 不 是我打扰了 - 没事 - No, I'm sorry to bother you. - No.
我只是在附近... I'm just in the neighborhood looking for
找两位来自我教会的年轻女士 two young ladies from my church.
哦 Oh.
一切都还好吗？ Is everything all right?
她们听不到我们 They can't hear us.
我相信一切都很好 I'm sure everything's fine,
我只是想知道她们是否... I was just wondering if they...
...来过这里 ...stopped by.
没有 很抱歉 No. I'm sorry to say,
你是今天第一个来访的人 所以 you are the first house caller,I've had all day, so.
- 你看到这个了吗？ - 它被锁住了 - Did you see this? - It's locked.
救命 Help.
我们可以拉地毯 We can pull the rug.
火柴 The matches.
我们生一把火 We start a fire,
让烟从说话管道冒出去 确保 smoke out the speaking pipe to make sure
长老知道我们在这里 the Elder knows we're here.
好的 但你确实问过 Okay. But you did ask
关于教会的更多信息 对吧？ for more information on the church, correct?
呃 这...这是哪个教会？ Uh, this... this is the which church?
耶稣基督后期圣徒教会 The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
是的 是的 是的 是的 Yes, yes, yes, yes.
拉 小心 Pull. Careful.
还有什么我可以帮忙的吗？ Is there some other way,I can help?
你要用我的电话报警吗？ Do you want to use my phone, call the police?
- 我可以拿我的外套... - 不 不用 没事 - I could get my coat... - No, no. That's fine.
...然后出去帮你找 ...and come help you look around.
不 不 不 我相信她们就在附近 No, no, no, no, no. I'm sure they're not far.
呃 谢谢你的时间 Uh, thank you for your time.
好的 祝你好运 我是认真的 All right, well, good luck. Yeah, I mean that.
- 好的 - 嗯 - Okay. - Uh-huh.
不 No.
他来了！ He's coming!
怎么样？怎么样？有结果吗？ Yeah? Yeah? Any luck?
她动了 She moved.
- 什么意思？ - 我们离开的时候 - What do you mean? - When we were gone.
不 你记错了 No, you're remembering it wrong.
她根本没动过 She hasn't moved at all.
她的头的位置不一样了 Her head is different.
- 她就在那个位置！ - 不是的！ - That's where she was! - It's not!
姐妹 我记得不是这样的 求你了！ Sister, that's not how I remember it. Please!
求你了 快来！救命！ Please, just come on! Help!
把袖子撩起来 Hold the sleeve up.
如果我不问你一个问题的话 那就太失职了 I'd be remiss if I didn't ask you one question.
你收到这本小册子了吗？ Have you received this booklet?
我还没有 I have not,
不过我会看一眼的 but I will give it a look-see.
再试一次 Try another.
我知道 I know.
集中注意力 Focus.
快一点 Faster.
指挥... Conductor...
说...我的...名字 says... my... name.
白色...云彩 White... clouds.
不是...天堂 Not... Heaven.
他们...拔掉... They... unplug...
我的大脑 my brain.
这不是... It is...
真的... not...
真实的 real.
好的 谢谢你 先知 And, thank you, Prophet.
我们非常感谢你通往彼岸的旅程 We are very grateful for your passage
到另一边 to the other side.
你的预言将被记录在 我们的礼仪文本中 Your prophecy will be recorded into our liturgical texts.
来吧 你一定累了 扶着我的胳膊 Come. You must be exhausted. Take my arm.
好吧 现在 Well, now.
你看 这很有趣 因为... You see, this is rather interesting because...
我知道你们中有一个人 从一开始就在撒谎 I know that one of you has been lying
自从你们到这里来 since you first got here.
你知道我是怎么知道的吗？ And do you know how I know that?
对不起 我能...我能拿走那个吗？ Excuse me, can I... can I take that?
我是从火焰 I know from the way
对你们每个人的反应中知道的 that the fire reacts to each of you.
A 。 A.
B 。 B.
是的 你们中有一个人有一个非常非常... Yeah. One of you has a very, very...
...非常大的秘密 但我们很快就会知道更多 ...very big secret, but we will know more soon.
在你看到一个女人 死而复生之前和之后 There will be before you saw a woman die
会有所不同 and come back to life, and there will be after.
关于这件事会有书籍被写出来 Books will be written about it.
所以当我问你的时候 请非常谨慎地选择你的词语 So choose your words very carefully when I ask,
你目睹了什么？ what did you witness?
告诉我 告诉我你看到了什么 Tell me. Tell me what you saw.
她是怎么... How did she...
我不知道... I don't know...
如果你没有看到超凡脱俗的东西 And if you didn't see something transcendental,
你必须告诉我 you absolutely must tell me.
我不知道 I don't know.
因为如果我错了 'Cause if I'm wrong,
我需要听到 这就是你们在这里的原因 I need to hear it. That's why you're here.
这是一个人为设计的实验 我们是你的囚犯！ It's a contrived experiment. We are your prisoners!
- 这没有意义... - 哦 别说了！ - It doesn't make sense... -Oh, pooh!
- 我们都是囚犯 - ...我们没资格发表意见！ - We're all prisoners together. - ...for us to have an opinion!
你们现在应该知道我们随时都可以离开 You must know by now that any of us can leave
但在我们见识到这些之后 谁还会想走呢？ whenever we want, but why would we want,
我们为什么要走？ after what we've seen?
我看到了 我看到了 I saw it. I saw it.
我听到她描述 I heard her describe
她在另一边的经历 what she experienced on the other side.
太好了！你听到了什么？ Great! What did you hear?
她说那里有一个引导者 She said there was a conductor.
- 是的 对 - 她是指天使吗？ - Yes. Yeah. - Did she mean angel?
她有一种脱离感 She had a feeling of disassociation,
感觉有些东西不真实 a feeling that something wasn't real.
就是这样 That's it.
现在你们知道了 So now you know.
现在 我们知道了？ Now, we know?
是的 现在你们知道了 Yeah, now, you know.
知道？ Know?
我可以让你们见到上帝 I can show you God.
如果你们愿意死的话 If you're willing to die.
这...这可以是无痛的 可以是暂时的 It... it can be painless. It can be temporary.
就像先知一样 你们可以被带回来 Like the Prophet, you can be brought back.
这根本不需要害怕 It doesn't have to be frightening at all.
我告诉你...我告诉你什么才是可怕的 I'll tell you... I'll tell you what's frightening.
不知道才是可怕的！ Not knowing is frightening!
我们从哪里来？我们在这里做什么？ Where do we come from? What are we doing here?
我们的目的是什么？ What's our purpose?
这些问题的恐怖就是宗教存在的原因 The terror of those questions is why religions exist.
我可以为你们回答这些问题 I can answer those questions for you.
我可以给你们一种安慰 是世界上任何宗教 I can give you a comfort no religion in the world
都无法给予的 is capable of giving you.
现在一切都说得通了 It all makes sense now.
我整晚都在问自己 I've been asking myself all night,
他怎么会让杀死我们变成 我们自己的主意？ how is he gonna make killing us our idea?
巴恩斯姐妹 你糊涂了 Sister Barnes, you're in a muddle.
我知道 我分不清 I know. I can't tell
你是在下国际象棋还是跳棋 if you're playing chess or checkers.
大富翁！ Monopoly!
来吧 答案就在那里 Come on, it was right there.
你没有向我们展示奇迹 You didn't show us a miracle.
好吧 那我给你们展示了什么？ Okay, what did I show you?
那不是奇迹 That wasn't a miracle.
你是这么说 我给你看了什么? So you say. What did I show you?
那不是奇迹! That was not a miracle!
我给你看了什么? What did I show you?
那是一个魔术 It was a magic trick.
一个魔术? A magic trick?
你想知道为什么我们不提塔可钟吗? You wanna know why we don't talk about Taco Bell?
它在我四岁时差点杀死我 It killed me when I was four years old.
五十个人因大肠杆菌爆发而住院 Fifty people were hospitalized from an E. coli outbreak.
学校里的孩子叫我塔可地狱 The kids at school called me Taco Hell
因为我在医生手术我的肾脏时 'cause I was clinically dead
曾经临床死亡 while doctors operated on my kidneys.
当我死亡时, When I was dead,
我看到了和你的先知 描述的完全一样的景象 I saw exactly what your prophet described.
刺眼的白光, A blinding white light,
云朵,但不是天堂 一种想要回去的感觉, clouds, but not Heaven, a sense of wanting to return,
感觉我所处的现实状态并不真实 a feeling that my state of reality wasn't real.
那不是预言 That wasn't a prophecy.
那是濒死体验 That was a near-death experience.
当大脑缺氧 When the oxygen leaves your brain
或心脏停止跳动时,你的大脑 or your heart stops pumping, your mind
会创造出难以置信的事物 creates unbelievable things.
我认为你一直让这个女人 I think you've been keeping this woman
处于濒死状态,以便询问她 on the edge of death in order to ask her questions
关于无意义的幻觉的问题, about meaningless hallucinations
这样你就可以证实你对 so that you can substantiate your idea
唯一真实宗教的想法 of what the one, true religion really is.
你知道吗... Did you know...
当你回忆某事时, that when you remember something,
你实际上只是在回忆 you're really only remembering
上一次你回忆那个经历的情况? the last time you remembered that experience?
你并不是真的在回忆事件本身 You're not actually recalling the event.
所以你对在塔可钟濒死的记忆... So your memory of dying at Taco Bell...
...并不是真的濒死, ...isn't really of dying,
而是对记忆的记忆 it's of the memory of the memory
的记忆的记忆的记忆的记忆... of the memory of the memory of the memory...
打断我... ...对那个事件的记忆 stop me... ...of that event.
所以你记忆的是一个错误的关联, So you're remembering a false correlation
与你刚刚目睹的经历相关联 with the experience you've just witnessed.
但这个,这正在此时此刻发生! But this, this is happening right now!
这就是为什么我认为 巴恩斯姐妹,帕克斯顿姐妹, That's why I think, Sister Barnes, Sister Paxton,
你们真的需要注意 that you really need to pay attention
因为我向你保证... because I promise you...
...我们说的不是魔术把戏 ...we're not talking about a magic trick.
不, No,
我们说的是神奇内衣... we're talking about magic underwear...
救命啊!救命! Help me! Help!
她会回到我们身边的! She'll come back to us!
我保证! I promise!
帕克斯顿姐妹,不要害怕! Sister Paxton, do not be scared!
她会再次站起来的 She will rise again.
挑战他 Challenge him.
辩论 Debate.
挑战他 Challenge him.
来吧,B姐妹 Come on, now, Sister B.
快醒醒! Wakey-wakey!
哇,哇,哇, Whoa, whoa, whoa,
哇,哇,哇!不,不是这样的 whoa, whoa, whoa! No, that's not it.
不是这样的 这是个...脏兮兮的小狗 That's not it. That's a... a mucky pup.
让我来处理 Let's have that.
很快了 就几分钟的事 Moments. It'll be moments.
来,给我来个鼓点,好吗? Let's have one of your drum rolls, yeah?
呜呼! Whoop!
嘿! Hey!
我很抱歉 I'm very sorry.
出了点问题 Something is wrong.
我现在担心... I'm now worried...
她可能不会... that she's not...
...回到我们身边了 ...coming back to us.
是的 Yeah.
哦,是的 Oh, yeah.
对 Yep.
是的 Yeah.
就是这样 There it is.
不,不是 No, it isn't.
那是根血管 That was a vein.
啊哈! 啊哈 A-ha! A-ha.
植入物 The implant.
这就是为什么她无法回到我们身边 This is why she can't come back to us.
看看! Take a look!
我很抱歉 I'm very sorry.
但巴恩斯姐妹,她是个程序 But Sister Barnes, she's a program.
她不是真实的 She's not real.
你知道是什么暴露了吗? Do you know what gave it away?
蜡烛 The candles.
你在说什么?我不明白 What are you saying? I don't understand.
不,不,我知道 我知道 我知道 No, no, I know. I know. I know.
你怎么可能知道呢? How could you?
你能向我解释一下吗? Can you explain it to me?
帕克斯顿姐妹,你 Are you, Sister Paxton,
熟悉道教的 familiar with the Daoist concept
"蝴蝶之梦"概念吗? of "The Butterfly Dream"?
一只蝴蝶... A butterfly...
蝴蝶扇动翅膀会引起台风吗？ A butterfly flaps its wings and causes a typhoon?
那是"蝴蝶效应" That is,"The Butterfly Effect."
常见误解 不 "蝴蝶之梦"... Common mistake. No. "The Butterfly Dream"...
...是关于一位古代中国哲学家的 ...concerns an ancient,Chinese philosopher
他问自己以下问题： who asked himself the following question.
"我是一个人梦见自己 "Was I a man dreaming
是只蝴蝶 还是现在..." "I'm a butterfly, or am I now..."
"...我是只蝴蝶梦见自己是个人？" "...a butterfly dreaming that I am a man?"
过来坐下 Come and sit down.
来吧 这里 Come on. Here.
这就是我们 This is us.
你和我独处在一起 You and me alone together.
那是巴恩斯 That was Barnes.
再见 巴恩斯 Bye-bye, Barnes.
我得出了一个黑暗的认知 I have come to a dark realization
我们生活在一个 如此先进的模拟世界中 that we exist inside a simulation so advanced
以至于我们无法分辨真实生活 that we cannot tell the difference between real life
和人工梦境的区别 and artificial dream.
你听到先知说的了 她说 "这不是真的 " You heard the Prophet. She said, "It is not real."
你看 火焰动态很难渲染 You see, fire dynamics are very difficult to render.
我注意到它在与模拟NPC互动时 I've noticed this anomaly in its behavior
表现出异常行为 when it interacts with simulated NPCs,
就像可怜的老修女B一样 like poor old Sister B.
她无法回到我们身边 但当你死亡时 She couldn't come back to us, but when you die,
请伸出手指 你将穿越死亡 finger, please, you will pass through death
并醒来... and wake up...
...进入真实世界 ...into the real world.
你怎么看？ What do you think?
是 不是 还是可能？ Yes, no, maybe?
嗯... Um...
那是一种理论 That's a theory.
好吧 你很欢迎... Well yeah, you're very welcome to...
挑战我的前提 我喜欢这样 to challenge my premise. I love that.
来吧 Go for it.
我不认为这是一个微芯片 I don't think this is a microchip.
哦？ Oh?
我觉得这是一种避孕器 I think it's a contraceptive.
一个... 一个植入式避孕器 A... a birth control implant.
嗯 Huh.
告诉我 你有没有见过 Tell me, have you ever met
一个使用避孕措施的摩门教传教士？ a Mormon missionary who was on birth control?
"巴恩斯修女"说过她在使用避孕措施吗？ Did "Sister Barnes" say she was on birth control?
我们的教会会让她 Our church would've made her
为此感到羞耻 feel ashamed about it,
她会因此感到太尴尬 and she would've been too embarrassed.
- 模拟理论是... - 啊! - Simulation theory is... - Ah!
"假说" 请用这个词 抱歉 这不重要 "Hypothesis," please. Sorry, it doesn't matter.
模拟假说 Simulation hypothesis
是不可验证的 对吧？ is not testable, is it?
是的 这是一个信仰问题 就像任何宗教一样 No, it's a matter of belief, like any religion.
你要么相信它 选绿门 You either believe it, green door,
要么不相信它 选紫门 or you don't believe it, purple door.
恕我直言 With all due respect,
我... I...
我不相信它 I don't believe it.
我不够聪明到能说出原因 我就是不信 I'm not smart enough to say why, I just don't.
你相信我展示给你的奇迹吗？ Do you believe the miracle that I showed you?
相信 Yes.
- 是吗？ - 一开始是 - Yeah? -At first.
但现在呢？ But now?
我觉得今晚发生了某些 I think something happened tonight
你没有预料到的事情 that you didn't expect.
感觉你在即兴发挥 It feels like you're improvising,
试图说服我相信一个模拟理论 trying to convince me of a simulation theory
但这理论并不能站得住脚 我说得对吗？ that's not sticking. Am I right?
呃 你是在问我你说得对不对 Uh, are you asking me if you're right
我是在即兴发挥 that I am improvising
还是说模拟叙事 or you're right that the simulation narrative
没有说服力？ is not sticking?
是的 Yes.
击掌 High-five.
所以 事实上你同意你朋友的观点 So, in fact, you agree with your friend.
你认为先知只是在产生幻觉 You think that the Prophet was just hallucinating
经历了一次毫无意义的濒死体验 a meaningless, near-death experience.
不 No.
我认为你调换了尸体 I think you switched the bodies.
我只是还没弄清楚你是怎么做到的 I just haven't figured out how yet.
我调换了... I switched...
尸体？ the bodies?
长老到这里时门铃响了 The doorbell rang when the Elder got here.
这引起了我们对楼梯的注意 Which drew our attention to the stairs.
你肯定为此做好了准备 You would have been prepared for that.
当我们回到楼下时 When we came back downstairs,
我注意到那个女人的姿势 和之前不一样了 I noticed the woman wasn't in the same position as before.
很相似... It was similar...
她的头部位置不同 Her head is different.
但不完全一样 But it was not the exact same.
我认为另一个长得一模一样的女人 I think another woman who looked exactly like her
进入了地下室 came into the basement
可能是通过一个隐藏的门之类的 through a hidden door or something,
处理了她的尸体 然后坐到桌前取代了她的位置 disposed of her body and then took her place at the table.
我明白了 I see.
然后 一旦我们回到楼下 And then, once we got back downstairs,
她宣读了一个你为她准备的预言脚本 she read off a scripted prophecy
除了她说的最后一句话是 that you prepared for her.
"这不是真的 " Except the last thing she said was,
"这不是真的 " "It is not real."
...不是...真的... ...not... real...
也许她是想告诉我们 Maybe she was trying to tell us
那个奇迹并不是真的 that the miracle wasn't real.
啊 Ah.
你明白我说的发生了... You see what I mean when I say
你没预料到的事情是什么意思了吗？ something happened that you didn't expect?
我认为你给了她一个脚本 但她没有按照剧本来 I think you gave her a script, and she went off the book,
现在你正试图挽回局面 and now you're trying to recover.
好吧 如果是这样的话 那么 呃 Well, if that's right, then, uh,
这个地下室肯定还有另一个入口 对吧？ there'd have to be another way into this basement, yeah?
我们要不要看看？ Shall we have a look?
我不认为有 I don't think there is.
没有 No.
我做得不太好 I'm not doing very well,
帕克斯顿修女 Sister Paxton.
除非... Unless...
这意味着... Which means that...
如果你是对的 那里应该有一具尸体 there would have to be a dead body down there
对吧？ if you were right, huh?
没错 Correct.
你打算如何验证你的理论？ How will you test your theory?
我不知道 I don't know.
但你会进入那个洞里 But will you go into that hole and
看看下面是否有人吗？ see if there's somebody down there?
如果必要的话 If I have to.
你为什么要这么做？ Why would you do that?
因为我想知道真相 Because I want to know the truth,
而且唯一的出路就是穿过去 and because the only way out is through.
罗伯特·弗罗斯特？ Robert Frost?
沼泽怪物 Swamp Thing.
不要进入那个地窖... Don't go into that cellar...
除非你准备好 unless you are prepared
发现唯一真实的宗教 to discover the one, true religion.
我就知道 I knew it.
嘿 Hey.
抱歉让你受冷 Sorry about the cold.
你想明白了吗？ Have you figured it out yet?
我想是的 I think so.
那是什么？ So what is it?
什么是唯一真实的宗教 帕克斯顿修女？ What is the one, true religion, Sister P?
它是... It's...
当我们最初到达时 When we first arrived,
你把我们单独留在你的客厅里 you left us alone in your living room.
我们以为你在和你妻子说话 We thought you were talking to your wife,
但你在做别的事 but you were doing something else.
没错 I was.
你从巴恩斯姐妹的外套里 拿了一把钥匙 You took a key from Sister Barnes' coat,
出去解锁我们的自行车 并把它们藏起来 went outside to unlock our bikes and hide them.
我注意到你回来端饮料时头发是湿的 I noticed your hair was wet when you came back
好像你刚刚在暴风雨中待过 with the drinks, like you were out in the storm.
我猜你这么做是因为你不想让 You did this, I assume, because you didn't want
长老回来找我们时 the Elder to find our bikes
发现我们的自行车 when he came back looking for us.
但你心里还有别的事 But there was something else on your mind.
确实如此 There was.
你把自行车钥匙 You returned the bike key
放回了错误的外套口袋 to the wrong coat pocket.
我们以为这是你犯的一个错误 We thought this was a mistake you made.
钥匙 Key.
但现在我知道不是 But now I know it wasn't.
为什么？ Why?
你把自行车锁给了你的一个先知 You gave the bike lock to one of your prophets,
指示他们用它锁上最后一道地窖门 instructed them to lock the final cellar door with it.
但为什么？我为什么要那么做？ But why, why, why? Why did I do that?
因为你想让我知道 Because you wanted me to know
我现在站在这里的唯一原因 the only reason,I'm standing here right now
是因为这正是 is because it is exactly
你想让我站的地方 where you want me to be standing.
我不是因为自己选择才在这里 I'm not here because I chose to be.
我在这里是因为你让我选择在这里 I'm here because you made me choose to be.
哦 Oh.
因为你想让我相信唯一真正的宗教是... Because you want me to believe the one, true religion is...
...控制 ...control.
完全正确 That is exactly right.
宗教只是一个控制系统... Religion is just a system of control...
没关系 It's okay.
我会帮助你的 I'll help you.
不 你看 有趣的是 No, you see, that's what's so interesting.
他们不需要你的帮助 They don't want your help.
他们...他们正好 They... they are exactly
在他们选择的地方 where they chose to be.
但你杀了那个女人 But you killed that woman.
我不同意 I disagree.
她...她选择吃了一个有毒的馅饼 She... She chose to eat a poisoned pie
是因为她深厚的信仰 because of her profound faith.
这被称为喝...有人知道吗？ It is called drinking the... anyone?
冷饮 Kool-Aid.
确实... It is true...
我让这些女士们感到有点冷 that I keep these ladies a little chilly,
还有点饿 and a little peckish,
对此我非常抱歉 对不起 女士们 for which I am very sorry. Sorry, ladies.
但这只是出于同样的原因 But only for the same reason
你们的教会在飓风后 that your church goes to Haiti
去海地分发圣经 to give out Bibles after a hurricane.
更容易控制 It's easier to control
那些失去了... someone who has lost...
...一切的人 ...everything.
你说得对 她确实偏离了剧本 You're absolutely right. She did go off-book.
你为什么要这么做？ Why do you do this?
问题是 The question is,
你们为什么让我这么做？ why do you all let me?
抱歉... Sorry...
你们在这里是因为他人的想法 You are here because the ideas of others
从你们出生那天起 就影响了你们的每一个决定 have influenced every single decision you've made
而我能预测你们今晚 会做出的每一个决定 就是因为这个 since the day you were born, and I've been able to predict
你们允许他们 every decision you would make tonight because of that.
决定你们生活中的每一件事 You have allowed them
他们决定你们崇拜谁 to dictate every decision of your life.
在哪里崇拜 崇拜什么 They decide who you worship,
他们甚至决定你们在衣服下面穿的衣物 where you worship, what you worship.
什么？ They even dictate the garments you wear under your clothes.
你们的神奇内衣 The what?
不... 不... Your magic underwear.
不... No... No...
祈祷... No...
祈祷 Pray...
为我们祈祷 Pray.
祈祷... Pray for us.
...是没用的 Praying...
你们听说过伟大的祈祷实验吗？ ...doesn't work.
他们把病人分成几组 Have you ever heard of the great prayer experiment?
一组接受祈祷 一组不接受 They divided patients into groups.
研究结果是明确的 Those who received prayers and those who didn't.
它是无效的 The results of the study were conclusive.
但我觉得很美 It doesn't work.
我们都为彼此祈祷... But I think it's beautiful
...尽管我们可能都知道 that we all pray for each other...
这并不会带来任何改变 ...even though we all probably know
只是很高兴能想到除了自己以外的人 it doesn't make a difference.
即使那个人是你自己 It's just nice to think about someone other than yourself.
1589 Even if it's you.
...我感谢你在我生命中 ...I'm grateful for all the trials
给予我的所有考验 you've given me in my life.
也感谢你为我铺就的道路 And for your path that you've laid out for me.
安静地 Quietly.
再见 修女 Goodbye, Sister.
♪ 妈妈 摘下我的这枚徽章吧 ♪ ♪ Mama take this badge off me ♪
♪ 我再也用不到它了 ♪ ♪ I can't use it anymore ♪
♪ 天色越来越暗 暗得看不清了 ♪ ♪ It's getting dark too dark to see ♪
♪ 我感觉自己在敲着天堂的门 ♪ ♪ I feel like I'm knockin' on,Heaven's door ♪
♪ 咚咚咚 敲着天堂的门 ♪ ♪ Knock-knock-knockin' on Heaven's door ♪
♪ 妈妈 把我的枪埋进地里吧 ♪ ♪ Mama put my guns in the ground ♪
♪ 我再也不能开枪了 ♪ ♪ I can't shoot them anymore ♪
♪ 那片长长的乌云正在降临 ♪ ♪ That long black cloud is comin' down ♪
♪ 感觉像是在敲着天堂的门 ♪ ♪ Feels like I'm knockin' on,Heaven's door ♪
♪ 咚咚咚 敲着天堂的门 ♪ ♪ Knock-knock-knockin' on Heaven's door ♪