>> Announcer: TODAY AN ALL NEW DR. PHIL. UPON VIDEO CAMESCAN BE FUN,
BUT FOR SOME
>> JUSTIN'S VIDEO GAME
ADDICTION IS KILLING HIM.
>> DR. PHIL: HE'S PLAYING 16
HOURS A DAY.
>> IT'S AN OBSESSION.
>> DR. PHIL: HE'S NOT EATING,
HE'S EMACIATED AND HE'S
DROPPED OUT OF COLLEGE
>> Announcer: THE DARK SIDE OF
GAMING.
>> ARE YOU KILLING YOURSELF?
>> I KNOW I AM.
>> DR. PHIL: LET'S DO IT.
>> HAVE A GOOD SHOW EVERYBODY.
>> DR. PHIL: THIS IS A SAVE
PLACE TO TALK ABOUT HARD THINGS.
>> STANDBY.
WE WILL COUNT YOU.
>> DR. PHIL: I TRY TO BE AN
EMOTIONAL COMPASS AND POINT YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
>> I AM NOT GIVING UP ON YOU!
>> Audience: DR. PHIL. DR. PHIL! [ APPLAUSE ]
¶ ¶
[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]
¶ ¶
>> HOW YOU DOING?
HOW ARE YOU?
HEY, GUYS!
[ APPLAUSE ]
>> DR. PHIL: THANK YOU VERY
MUCH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH! [ CROWD CHEERING ]
>> OKAY, EVERYBODY HAVE A
SEAT.
YOU KNOW, 19 72 WAS THE YEAR
THAT VIDEO GAME PONG WAS
RELEASED.
REMEMBER THAT?
AND IN THE EARLY 80S, EVERYONE
WAS TRYING TO GOBBLE UP THE
DOTS WITH PAC MAN, AND WHO CAN
FORGET THE FIRST ATARRI,
CONSOLE, AND MARIO, AND LUIGI,
IT'S NO SURPRISE VIDEO GAMING
IS A HUGE PART OF OUR CULTURE.
NOW ADACE, ANYONE CAN CREATE
THEIR OWN ON LINE VIRT TUAL
WORLD, LIKE IN THE POPULAR 2ND
LIFE.
I WILL ZOOM IN HERE.
ALL RIGHT.
[ LAUGHTER ]
[ APPLAUSE ]
>> DR. PHIL: ALL RIGHT?
AND THERE I AM.
OKAY?
NOW, I CAN TURN AROUND.
I CAN WALK AROUND.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> DR. PHIL: OH, MY GOD, OH,
MY GOD.
OH! ALL RIGHT, CHECK THIS.
[ AUDIENCE OOHS ]
[ APPLAUSE ]
>> DR. PHIL: ALL RIGHT, CHECK
THIS.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> DR. PHIL: ALL RIGHT.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> DR. PHIL: ALL RIGHT, NOW
LET ME SEE YOU DO THAT, ALL
RIGHT?
I CAN LITERALLY CREATE AN
ENTIRE WORLD FOR MYSELF, AND
MEET OTHER PEOPLE, AT LEAST
THEIR AVATRS.
I CAN RIDE A BIKE, FLY AN
AIRPLANE, PLAY THE PIANO, GO
SHOPPING IN A VIRTUAL STORE, I
CAN RIDE A LIFE CYCLE, LIKE IN
THE MOVIE TRON, I CAN FLY
WITHOUT A PLANE.
PLAYING IN THE COMPUTER
VIRTUAL WORLD IS MEANT TO BE
FUN AND ENTERTAINING.
BUT FOR SOME PEOPLE, THE WORLD
INSIDE THE COMPUTER HAS BECOME
A BETTER LIFE THAN THEIR REAL
LIVES.
I AM NOT CONDEMING VIDEO
GAMES, THEY CAN BE GOOD.
BUT IT'S THE ABUSE (NOT THE
USE OF THEM) THAT'S THE
PROBLEM.
FOR SOME, GAMING CAN BECOME AN
ADDICTION.
THAT'S MY FEAR FOR MY FIRST
GUEST.
SARAH SAYS HER 23-YEAR-OLD
SON, JUSTIN ISO CONSUMED WITH
GAMING, THAT HE HAS DROPPED
OUT OF SCHOOL, CANNOT HOLD A
JOB, AND IN THE RECENT MONTHS
HAS LOST OVER 50 POUNDS.
HE DIDN'T HAVE IT TO LOSE.
SARAH SAYS SHE IS TERRIFIED
HER SON WILL LITERALLY GAME
HIMSELF TO DEATH.
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
>> I ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE
JUSTIN'S VIDEO GAME ADDICTION
IS KILLING HIM.
HE WON'T EVEN EAT.
JUSTIN WEIGHED 160 POUNDS AND
BECAUSE OF THIS VIDEO GAME
ADDICTION HE GOT DOWN TO 110
POUNDS.
JUSTIN TOLD ME LAST YEAR, HE
PREFERS THE VIRTUAL WORLD OVER
THE REAL WORLD.
>>I WOULD RATHER LIVE IN A
VIRTUAL WORLD THAN THE REAL ONE.
>> DO YOU WANT TO GET HELP,
FIGURE OUT IF THERE'S A WAY
OUT OF IT?
>> NO.
>> DO YOU THINK IT'S
SUSTAINABLE?
>> NO.
>> JUSTIN'S YEARS -- 23 YEARS
OLD, HE TRIED TO GO TO COLLEGE
AND CAN'T PASS A CLASS.
>> I SAID, DO YOU THINK ABOUT
KILLING YOURSELF?
HE SAYS, , I AM PASSIVELY
KILLING HIMSELF
>> HEARING HIM SAY HE WAS
DYING BECAUSE OF HIS VIDEO
GAME ADDICTION IS THE MOST
FRIGHTENING THING.
I LOVE HIM SO MUCH, HE'S MY
ONLY BABY.
I COULD ON LOSE HIM AT ANY
MOMENT.
[ SOBBING ]
>> DR. PHIL: JUSTIN'S STEP
FATHER, GRAHAM, SAYS JUSTIN LIVES IN HIS COMPUTER
GENERATED WORLD SO HE CAN
ESCAPE LIVING IN THE REAL
WORLD.
>> JUSTIN'S ADDICTION TO
GAMING COULD VERY WILL BE
KILLING HIM.
LEFT TO HIS OWN DEVICE HE
WOULD BE GAMING ALL THE TIME.
HE'S COMPLETELY TUNED OUT,
HE'S ALMOST CATATONIC.
WE HAVE ATTEMPTED TO CUT HIM
OFF, BUT HE FOUND OTHER WAYS
TO DO IT.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK
JUSTIN IS AN ESCAPIST.
IF YOU TOOK GAMINGACIOUS --
GAMING AWAY, HE WOULD FIND
ANOTHER WAY TO ESCAPE.
HAS KEPT HIM FROM LAUNCHING AS
AN ADULT.
IT'S EFFECTED HIS PHYSICAL
HEALTH, HE DOESN'T TAKE CARE
OF HIMSELF, DOESN'T EAT.
LAST TIME HE CAME HOME TO LIVE
WITH US, HE WEIGHED IN AT 110
POUNDS
>> DR. PHIL: AM WORRIED ABOUT
THE --
>> I AM WORRIED ABOUT HIS
WEIGHT-LOSS.
THIS IS DIRE, IT'S HIT A
BREAKING POINT.
WE STOPPED OFFER FINANCIAL
SUPPORT.
WE HAVE GIVEN A SERIES OF
ULTIMATUMS.
I AM CONCERNED ABOUT CUTTING
HIM OFF FINANCIALLY.
WE HAVE BEEN TOLD HE NEEDS TO
HIT ROCK BOTTOM BUT MY BIGGEST
FEAR IS THAT ROCK BOTTOM IS,
HIM DYING.
>> DR. PHIL: SARAH YOU THINK
THIS IS AN ADDICTION?
>> IT DOES.
I AM NOT AN EXPERT, BUT IT
SEEMS LIKE TATO ME.
>> DR. PHIL: HE'S SPENDING á
EVERY WAKING HOUR IN FRONT OF
THIS COMPUTER SCREEN, PLAYING
THIS GAME, RIGHT?
>> AND EVEN DAYS.
>> SOMETIMES, YOU SAY HE'S
BEEN UP OVERNIGHT?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
REGULARLY.
>> DR. PHIL: 30 HOURS,
SOMETIMES, AT A TIME.
AND HE'S NOT EATING.
>> CORRECT.
>> DR. PHIL: WHAT DOES HE SAY
ABOUT IT?
>> SOMETIMES HE SAYS, I KNOW
IT'S A PROBLEM BUT I LOVE IT.
IF I BRING IT UP TO HIM, HE
WILL DEFINITELY GO OUT OF MIS
WAY TO MAYBE GO ON A WALK BUT
IT'S TEMPORARY.
>> DR. PHIL: YOU CAN PULL HIM
AWAY, TEMPORARILY, YOU WALK
AROUND THE BLOCK.
BUT YOU BLINK AND HE'S BACK IN
THERE.
>> HE'S LIKE, LOOK I AM ALL
GOOD BUT THEN HE'S BACK ON THE
GAMES .
>> DR. PHIL: HE'S DROPPED OUT
COLLEGE, CAN'T HOLD A JOB, AND
YOU SAY HE'S LOST 50 POUNDS
MAKING HIM EMACIATED NOW,
RIGHT?
>> YEAH.
>> DR. PHIL: YOU SAY THERE
ARE TIMES WHEN HE WOULD GO
INTO HIS ROOM AND THE GARBAGE
IN HIS ROOM WAS 2 FEET DEEP.
>> I KICKED HIM OUT OF THE
HOUSE.
THERE WERE TWO FEET OF
GARBAGE,
>> IT WAS MOLDY BURGERS.
DISHES I HADN'T SEEN FOR
YEARS.
>> DR. PHIL: HOW WORRIED
ABOUT THIS, ARE YOU?
>> REALLY WORRIED.
IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS
IT'S GOTTEN TO A POINT WHERE I
AM WORRIED ABOUT HIM SURVIVING
IT.
>> DR. PHIL: YOU SAID
SOMETHING THAT KINDA STUCK
WITH ME.
I WROTE IT DOWN AS A QUOTE:
YOU SAID, "I HAVE BEEN SAVING
JUSTIN'S VOICE MAILS BECAUSE
IN THE EVENT SOMETHING HAPPENS
TO HIM, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO
HEAR HIS VOICE".
>> IT'S TRUE.
>> DR. PHIL: YOU ARE PLANNING
FOR HER DEATH. >> IT'S A REALITY FOR ME.
IF WE DON'T GET HELP.
>> DR. PHIL: JUSTIN SAYS HE
PREFERS HIS LIFE IN THE
COMPUTER GENERATED WORLD AND
WISHES HE COULD LIVE THERE
PERMANENTLY.
HOW FAR WOULD HE GO TO MAKE
THAT HAPPEN.
WE WILL HEAR HIS LOGIC AND
RHETORIC.
THIS IS AN INTELLIGENT YOUNG
MAN, WE WILL HEAR WHAT HE HAS
TO SAY AND HOW HE REASONS
THROUGH THIS.
WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK.
[ APPLAUSE ]
¶ ¶
>> I DON'T GET AS HUNGRY WHEN I AM GAMING. I AM ONLY GET UP TO GO TO THE
BATHROOM.
I WILL GAME UNTIL I HAVE TO GO
TO SLEEP.
MAYBE 24 HOURS, GAME ALL DAY
UNTIL THE SUN COMES UP!
¶ ¶
>> Announcer: TOMORROW ON AN ALL-NEW DR. PHIL.
SHE STOLE HER SISTER'S
BOYFRIEND! >> DR. PHIL: I STARTED
SLEEPING WITH HIM?
>> I AM SAY HE WAS THE ONE
KNOCKING ON MY DOOR.
>> DR. PHIL: YOU ANSWERED IT
>> SHE MARRIED HIM
>> YOU NEVER ADMITTED YOU HAVE
DONE ANYTHING WRONG.
>> THAT'S NOT TRUE.
>> YOU DON'T CARE.
>> DID YOU SHED A TEAR?
>> WHEN IS AN APOLOGY SUPPOSED
TO COME THROUGH WHEN YOU DO
THIS ALL THE TIME
>> DR. PHIL:
>> HOW DAY.
>> JUSTIN'S BEEN ON A DOWNWARD SPIRAL WITH THIS VIDEO GAME ADDICTION.
OVER THE PAST 5 YEARS I
HAVEN'T GOTTEN UP WITHOUT
WORRYING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT
HE'S OKAY.
IT'S AN INCREDIBLE
ROLERCOASTER.
>> DR. PHIL: MY GUEST á SARAH AND HER HUSBAND, GRAHAM LIVE IN FEAR THAT SARAH'S
23-YEAR-OLD SON IS KILLING
HIMSELF, NOT WITH DRUGS OR A
DANGEROUS LIFE ON THE STREET
BUT WITH A COMPUTER GENERATED
ALTERNATE WORLD.
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
>> I ENJOY GAMING MORE THAN I
ENJOY LIFE.
GAMING IS SIMPLE AND
REWARDING.
PEOPLE CARE ABOUT ME THERE
MORE THAN IN THE REAL WORLD.
AND I AM GOOD AT IT.
I HAVE HAD A LOT OF
OPPORTUNITIES TO SUCCEED IN
THE REAL WORLD, BUT I PASS
THEM UP, AND I FEEL LIKE IT'S
KIND OF HOPELESS NOW.
IN THE BACK OF MY HEAD, I CAN
NOTICE MY LIFE IS DEGRADING.
IT MAKES ME WANT TO PLAY MORE,
BECAUSE THEN I DON'T HAVE TO
THINK ABOUT IT, AS MUCH.
A DAY IN THE LIFE FOR ME?
I WAKE UP AT 4 P.M., BECAUSE I
WAS UP ALL NIGHT GAMING, I EAT
ONCE A DAY TO GET IT OVER
WITH.
I DON'T GET AS HUNGRY WHEN I
AM GAMING, MY BODY GOES TO THE
WAYSIDE.
I GET UP TO GO TO THE BATHROOM
>> DR. PHIL: AM GAME 24 HOUR
-- >> I AM GAME 24 HOURS AND EVEN
STAY UP LONGER AND REPEAT THE
SAME PROCESS.
GAME ALL DAY UNTIL THE SUN
COMES UP, ALL NIGHT.
IF I DO HAVE WEED, I WILL
SMEEK IT EVERY DAY ALL DAY.
YOU GET MORE IMMERSED INTO THE
GAME WHEN YOU ARE HIGH.
I FIRST STARTED PLAYING AND IT
WAS MALE CHARACTERS.
I STARTED CHANGING ALL OF MY
CHARACTERS TO THE FEMALE
PERSONA, IT'S NEW AND
EXCITING.
AT TIMES MY ARE CONSIDERED THE
BEST NEWSCAST WORLD.
PEOPLE -- BEST IN THE WORLD.
PEOPLE FEAR AND LOOK UP TO MY
CHARACTERS T. MAKES MAY FEEL
LIKE IT WASN'T A WASTE.
MY DREAM IS SHIFTING BECAUSE I
REALIZE, BEING A PROFESSIONAL
GAMER IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY.
IN THE PAST YEAR OR TWO, I
FEEL LIKE MY LIFE IS WASTING
AWAY.
IT FRIGHTENS ME, BECAUSE I
HAVE BEEN LIVING ON LINE, FOR
THE PAST 10 YEARS.
I DO BELIEVE I HAVE A PROBLEM
WITH GAMING.
>> DR. PHIL: I AM GLAD TO
MEET YOU, DEFINE THE PROBLEM
FOR ME; WHAT DO YOU THINK YOUR
PROBLEM IS?
>> I THINK THAT I JUST, I AM
JUST NOT MOTIVATED TO DO
ANYTHING IN THE REAL WORLD
ANYMORE, BECAUSE I HAVE
ACHIEVED SO OFP MUCH -- SO
MUCH ON LINE.
I HAVE GAINED SO MUCH, IT
WOULD ALDALL FEEL LIKE A
WASTE.
>> DR. PHIL: CONTRAST YOUR ON
LINE WORLD WITH THE REAL
WORLD.
>> I HAVEN'T GAINED ANYTHING
FOR MY LIFE WITH MY GAMING
LIFE.
>> DR. PHIL: WOULD IT
SURPRISE YOU TO FIND OUT I
DON'T BELIEVE THAT?
THEY HAVE SAYING, WHAT, SHUT
UP.
YOU ARE SUPPOSED TOO ON OUR
SIDE.
NO, LISTEN THERE ARE DIFFERENT
KINDS OF CURRENCY IN LIFE.
THERE'S ALL KINDS OF CURRENCY,
MONETARY CURRENCY WHERE YOU
GET PAID FOR DOING SOMETHING,
SOCIAL CURRENCY, WHERE YOU
HAVE FRIENDS, FELLOWSHIP AND
CAMARADERIE AND ALL OF THAT.
AND THERE'S CURRENCY THAT
COMES FROM A FEELING OF
ACHIEVEMENT.
WHY DO PEOPLE CLIMB MOUNTAINS?
THERE'S NOT A PRIZE AT THE TOP
OF THE MOUNTAIN?
THEY OBSERVE THEMSELVES MASTER
THAT OBSTACLE AND SAY, WOW I
DID THAT, IT'S
SELF-ATRIBULATION, THEY
ATTRIBUTE THEMSELVES FROM
DOING IT.
AND THEY SAY, "WOW, I AM á
PROUD OF MYSELF, DID THAT".
YOU GET CURRENCY IN TERMS OF
ACHIEVEMENT IN THE GAMING
WORLD.
YOU ARE GOOD AT WHAT YOU DO?
>> YEAH.
DEFINITELY.
>> DR. PHIL: YOU ARE PROUD OF
THAT.
YOU HAVE BEEN RANKED LIKE THE
TOP 20 IN THE WORLD.
>> IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT
GAMES.
>> DR. PHIL: YOU DON'T GET
THAT CURRENCY OUT OF THE REAL
WORD?
IS THERE ANYTHING YOU DO IN
THE REAL WORLD THAT GIVES YOU
THE KIND OF FEEDBACK AND
CONFIDENCE AND ACHIEVEMENT
HIGH THAT YOU GET OUT OF THE
VIRTUAL WORLD?
>> NOT THAT I HAVE FOUND, NO.
>> DR. PHIL: YOU SAY YOU
THINK IT'S TOO LATE?
FOR YOU.
THAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING THIS
SO MUCH YOU HAVE MISSED SO
MUCH IN THE REAL WORLD YOU CAN
NEVER CATCH UP?
>> YEAH, WELL, A LOT OF TIMES
I FEEL THAT WAY.
>> DR. PHIL: YEAH.
WHAT IS IT YOU HAVE MISSED?
HOW OLD ARE YOU?
>> 23.
>> DR. PHIL: YEAH?
>> I FEEL LIKE MOST OF THE PEOPLE I KNOW ARE WAY AHEAD OF
ME IN LIFE BY NOW.
AND YOU KNOW, I HAVE MESSED UP
ON COLLEGE A COUPLE OF TIMES.
I JUST CAN'T REALLY SEE MYSELF
BEING SUCCESSFUL ANYMORE.
>> DR. PHIL: UH-HUH.
BECAUSE YOU SHOULD HAVE GRADUATED BY NOW.
AND SO YOU CAN GIVEN UP ON
THAT.
AND SO NOW YOU ARE STUCK IN
THIS?
BUT ARE YOU GONNA BE DOING
THIS WHEN YOU ARE 50?
>> I THINK SO.
>> DR. PHIL: THE TRASH IN
YOUR ROOM WILL THEN BE LIKE 8 FEET HIGH AND YOU WILL HAVE
TUNNELS THROUGH IT?
YOU GOTTA DO SOMEMEMEING
DIFFERENT, RIGHT?
>> I DEFINITELY HAVE TO DO
SOMETHING DIFFERENT, OTHERWISE
I DON'T THINK I WILL MAKE IT
TO 50, RIGHT.
>> YOU ARE WASTING AWAY,
RIGHT?
>> YEP.
>> DR. PHIL: TELL ME ABOUT
SMOKING DOPE.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> UM, --
>> DR. PHIL: HOW DOES THAT
FIGURE INTO ALL OF THIS?
>> AT FIRST IT WAS A HABIT,
BUT THEN ... IT JUST BECAME MY
LIFE.
I MEAN.
IT HELPS ME ESCAPE WHEN I AM
HIGH I DON'T WORRY ABOUT
ANYTHING.
>> DR. PHIL: WHAT ARE YOU
ESCAPING?
>> THE LIFE I LEFT BEHIND,
PRETTY MUCH.
>> DR. PHIL: YOU ARE ESCAPING
THAT IN THE VIRTUAL WORLD. >> YEAH, BUT, A LOT OF TIMES I
AM RESTRICTED TO GO ON THE
VIRTUAL WORLD SO I HAVE TO
KEEP OCCUPIED WITH OTHER
THINGS.
>> DR. PHIL: RESTRICTED FROM
PLAYING YOU MEAN?
HOW ARE YOU RESTRICTED?
>> IF I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH
MONEY TO LIVE, THE PEOPLE I AM
LIVING WITH, SOMETIMES WON'T
ALLOW ME TO PLAY OR THEY MAKE
IT UNCOMFORTABLE TO PLAY.
>> DR. PHIL: AND SO YOU
DON'T?
>> I WILL GET HIGH, INSTEAD,
YEAH. >> DR. PHIL: WHEN SOMEONE
SAYS, NO, YOU CAN'T DO IT,
THAT WORKED AND YOU DON'T DO
IT?
>> UM, ONLY WHEN THEY HAVE --
>> DR. PHIL: WHAT A NOVEL
CONCEPT.
GO AHEAD.
>> ONLY WHEN IT'S PRETTY
CERTAIN THAT I AM NOT ABLE TO
PLAY, I WILL RESORT TO OTHER
THINGS, YEAH.
>> DR. PHIL: ALL RIGHT, SO, I
AM KINDA LOOKINGING AT SARAH
OUT OF THE CORNER OF MY EYE.
HAS SHE á ENABLED JUSTIN'S
GAMING LIFESTYLE?
I THINK YES.
WE WILL GET INTO THAT WHEN WE
COME BACK.
[ APPLAUSE ]
¶ ¶
>> DR. PHIL: YOU KNOW THAT SHE'S AFRAID SHE WILL WIND UP BURYING HER SON.
>> I
>> I CONSIDER MYSELF A VIDEO GAME ADDICT. I THINK IT'S COMMON FOR MOST
ADDICTS TO DEFEND THEIR
BEHAVIOR.
I FEEL LIKE I NEED HELP, BUT I
WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO ACCEPT
THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT THAT
HELP WOULD MEAN, IT WOULD MEAN
THE END OF GAMING AND I DON'T
WANT TO GIVE UP GAMING.
>> JUSTIN IS 23 YEARS OLD AND
HE ADMITS TO HAVING 4 FEMALE
AND 1 MALE AVATARS, BEINGS HE
PLAYS GAMES THROUGH 16 HOURS A
DAY.
AND SAYS HE HAS BETTER
RELATIONSHIPS IN THE VIRTUAL
WORLD INNY STEAD - INESTEAD OF
THE REAL WORLD.
JUSTIN'S MOTHER, SARAH SAYS
GAMING HAS HAD AN ADVERSE
EFFECT ON HIM AND HIS LIFE,
HER AND HER LIFE, HER
RELATIONSHIP WITH GRAHAM.
IT'S AFFECTED THE WHOLE
FAMILY.
>> WITH JUSTIN LIVING WITH US,
THINGS BETWEEN ME AND SARAH
WERE MORE STRAINED.
>> GRAHAM AND I FIGHT ABOUT
JUSTIN.
GRAHAM CAN BE A BULLY AND
GRAHAM DOESN'T WANT JUSTIN IN
THE HOUSE.
GRAHAM TOLD ME I NEED TO LET
JUSTIN SINK OR SWIM.
>> I THINK WE HAVE BEEN
ENABLING JUSTIN WITH FINANCIAL
SUPPORT, GIVING HIM THE
OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A SAFETY
NET AND IT'S PREVENTING HIM
FROM STANDING ON HIS OWN 2
FEET AND TAKING CARE OF
HIMSELF.
SCARES ME BECAUSE I BELIEVE
LETTING HIM SINK MIGHT MEAN HE
WOULD DROWN AND IT WOULD LEAD
TO HIS DEATH.
I AM READY TO LET HIM SWIM;
BUT I NEED TO KNOW FROM DR.
PHIL HE WON'T SINK
>> DR. PHIL: I CAN'T TELL YOU
WHETHER HE WILL OR WHETHER HE
WON'T.
AND I WILL ASKING THIS FOR THE
PARENTS AS MUCH AS I AM ASKING
YOU.
DID YOU PICK THIS BATTLE TOO
LATE?
>> PROBABLY.
>> BECAUSE AT 8 YEARS OLD YOU
WERE SOMETIMES LETTING HIM
STAY UP ALL NIGHT LONG PLAYING
VIDEO GAMES.
>> MAYBE NOT ALL NIGHT.
BUT, OKAY.
>> DR. PHIL: OKAY.
YOU WOULD LET HIM STAY UP LATE
INTO THE NIGHT PLAYING VIDEO
GAMES.
>> IF IT WAS NOT A SCHOOL
NIGHT, YEAH.
>> DR. PHIL: YOU WERE LETTING
HIM GET INTO THIS AND GET
ROLLING.
NOT THAT YOU SAW WHERE THIS
WAS HEADED.
>>I HAD NO IDEA.
HE ENJOYED IT. >> DR. PHIL: IF THAT WERE
FORESEEABLE, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE
DONE IT.
BUT I AM ASKING YOU THIS
QUESTION AS MUCH AS THOSE AT
HOME.
I TAKE A HARDER LINE ON THIS
THAN SHE DOES.
>> I TRY.
>> I DON'T WANNA LIFT REST OF
MY LIFE WITHOUT HIM.
>> DR. PHIL: DO YOU KNOW SHE
WORRIES ABOUT YOU.
>> YEAH, IT MAKES ME FEEL
GUILTY.
>> DR. PHIL: DO YOU KNOW IT
CREATES PAIN IN HER, AND SHE'S
AFRAID SHE WILL WIND UP
BURYING HER SON.
>> I DO, YEAH.
I CAN SEE IT IN HER EYES, I
MEAN.
>> DR. PHIL: VUASKED HIM IF
-- VUASKED HIM IF HE WANTS TO
DIE?
>> I ASK á ASKED HIM -- I HAVE
ASKED HIM IF HE FEELS LIKE
KILLING HIMSELF.
HE SAYS HE'S PASSIVELY KILLING
HIMSELF.
>> WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
>> MY BODY IS FALLING APART,
IT CAN'T KEEP UP WITH THE
LIFESTYLE I AM LIVING.
THE LIFE I HAVE BEEN LIVING,
IT'S A SUICIDAL BEHAVIOR.
>> DR. PHIL: DO YOU THINK YOU
ARE SLOWLY KILLING YOURSELF?
>> I KNOW I AM.
>> DR. PHIL: I ALWAYS THINK
THAT 50% OF THE SOLUTION TO
ANY PROBLEM LIES IN DEFINING
THE PROBLEM, RIGHT?
>> THANK YOU.
YEAH.
>> DR. PHIL: SO I HAVE REALLY
TRIED TO DECONSTRUCT THIS
SITUATION AND SAY, HOW DID WE
GET HERE?
SOME OF IT IS, I THINK, YOU
HAVE LET HIM GET TOO DEEP INTO
THIS, TOO SOON.
WE CAN'T CHANGE THAT, IT IS
WHAT IT IS.
I ALSO WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK
AT WHAT I THINK ARE SOME OF
THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS THAT
HAVE TAKEN PLACE HERE.
BEFORE JUSTIN WAS EVER BORN,
BACK IN 1984, YOUR GRANDMOTHER
KILLED HERSELF.
CORRECT
SHE HUNG HERSELF?
IN 1991, JUSTIN WAS BORN.
AT AGE 4, THE FRATERNAL
GRANDFATHER, COMMITTED
SUICIDE.
THE MATERNAL GRANDFATHER
COMMITTED SUICIDE.
SO WE HAVE A GREAT GRAND
PARENT AND TWO GRANDPARENTS
HAVE HAVE -- THAT HAVE KILLED
THEMSELVES.
AND AT THE AGE OF 5-8, AROUND
THIS TIME YOU WERE INTRODUCED
TO VIDEO GAMES.
INTERESTING, AT AGE 7, YOU
START SHOWING REAL CREATIVITY.
YOU WON A CONTEST THAT WINDS
UP ON 10 MILLION KRAFT, MAC &
CHEESE BOXES, WHICH IS NO
SMALL FEET.
YOU WIN A CONTEST, YOUR ART
WINDS UP ON A DISNEYLAND
FLOAT.
HE'S STARTING TO SHOW REAL
TALENT AND CREATIVITY.
AT AGE 7.
AT AGE 11 YOU DREAM OF BEING A
LAWYER.
YOU WANNA USE YOUR NEGOTIATION
SKILLS TO HELP PEOPLE.
AT THAT POINT.
AT AGE 13, YOU ARE ON YOUR WAY
TO MIDDLE SCHOOL ON A BIKE,
AND YOU GET HIT BY A CAR.
AND IT'S THAT SAME YEAR THAT
YOU START SMOKING MARIJUANA.
YOU ARE AGE 13.
THIS IS SIGNIFICANT TO ME.
AGE 13, BECAUSE AT AGE 11,
THERE'S DREAMS OF BEING A
LAWYER.
AT AGE 13, THIT AND THEN
STARTS SMOKING MARIJUANA.
-- HIT AND THEN STARTS SMOKING
MARIJUANA.
I GOTTA TELL YOU, WHEN I WAS
IN PRACTICE, MY SPECIALTY WAS
BRAIN AND CENTRAL NERVOUS
SYSTEM.
I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I START
WONDERING DO WE HAVE A CLOSED
HEAD INJURY HERE THAT GUESS
UNDIAGNOSED.
IS HE SELF-MEDICATING WITH
MARIJUANA AFTER THIS HAPPENS?
I DON'T KNOW.
BUT THIS STARTS CLICKING WITH
ME.
AT AGE 15, HE FAILS OUT OF
HIGH SCHOOL, STILL INVOLVED
WITH DRUGS BECAUSE HE GETS
BEAT UP DURING A DRUG DEAL.
AGE 18, NOW, VIDEO GAMES 16
HOURS A DAY; MARIJUANA ALL
DAY!
OKAY?
THEN HERE WE ARE, DRUGS ARE
STILL A FACTOR AT AGE 19.
AGE 21.
HOMELESS AND IN HIS CAR.
HERE WE ARE AGAIN AT 22.
DRUGS STILL INVOLVED.
FRIENDS OVERDOSE.
CAN'T HOLD A JOB AT 23.
EVICTED FROM APARTMENT.
AND THIS IS HIS WORD: HE
LOOKS AT THE WORLD, AND IT'S
JUST HOPELESS.
BUT THE KEY FOR ME IS THAT , AT
THIS POINT HE'S HIT BY A CAR,
STARTING SMOKING DOPE; AND TWO
YEARS EARLIER HE'S GOT DREAMS
OF BEING A LAWYER.
IS THAT SIGNIFICANT?
I DON'T KNOW.
BUT IT CERTAINLY JUMPS OUT AT
ME.
UM, BECAUSE FROM THAT POINT
FORWARD, THINGS SURE TO BE
GOING DOWNHILL WITH A LOT OF
DRUG INVOLVEMENT AND WITHDRAW
FROM LIFE.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
>> DR. PHIL: HAVE I HAVE
THOUGHTOS THAT, TOO, AND I WILL TELL YOU WHAT THEY ARE,
AFTER THE BREAK!
[ APPLAUSE ]
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>> JUSTIN STARTED PLAYING VIDEO GAMES AT 5 YEARS OLD. IF I TRIED TO TAKE THE GAMES
AWAY IN HIGH SCHOOL HE WOULD
CRY AND SCREAM, SAY I AM
RU
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>> DR. PHIL: I LOOKED AT THIS
AND SAID, WHY ARE YOU THE WAY
YOU ARE?
WHY ARE YOU WITHDRAWING FROM
LIFE AND ESCAPING SO MUCH?
SO MUCH FROM THE REAL WORLD.
I JUST HAVE THEORIES.
I AM NOT SAYING THEY ARE
RIGHT.
BUT I THINK THEY ARE WORTHY OF
CONSIDERATION.
THAT'S YOU.
YOU ARE RIGHT THERE IN THE
MIDDLE.
AND I WANTED TO LOOK AT WHAT'S
IN YOUR WORLD.
WE HAVE ONE GRANDMOTHER THAT
HAS COMMITTED SUICIDE.
WE HAVE GOT TWO GRANDFATHERS
THAT HAVE COMMITTED SUICIDE.
WE HAVE GOT 5 ALCOHOLICS.
WE HAVE 4 DRUG ADITHS.
WE HAVE 5 -- ADDICTS.
WE HAVE 5 UNEMPLOYED
RELATIVES.
TWO HOMELESS RELATIVES.
WE HAVE TWO RELATIVES WITH
DEPRESSION.
WE HAVE A FAMILY HISTORY,
OBVIOUSLY, OF ADDICTION AND
MENTAL ILLNESS.
WE HAVE GOT ONE FRIEND FROM
SCHOOL THAT HAS DIED OF A DRUG
OVERDOSE.
YOU HAVE HAD A RELATIONSHIP IN
THE REAL WORLD; THAT HAS NOT
WORKED OUT WELL.
AND YOU HAVE BEEN EVICTED FROM
YOUR APARTMENT.
YOUR ROOM FOR RENT.
AND LOST YOUR INTERNET.
SO I SAY: WHY WOULD HE HAVE A
NEGATIVE ATTITUDE ABOUT LIFE?
AND I LOOK AT ALL OF THESE
THINGS.
YOU GOT THIS, YOU GOT THIS.
YOU GOT ALL OF THESE THINGS.
UM, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEM,
BOTH IN TERMS OF EXPERIENCE
AND SOME OF THEM IN TERMS OF
GENETICS, ALL OF THESE THINGS
IMPINGING ON YOU, AND I START
ASKING MYSELF NOT WHY DO YOU
HAVE THIS ATTITUDE, BUT WHY
NOT?
>> YEAH.
I MEAN, IT'S A LOT OF
PRESSURE.
AND I WOULD RATHER JUST -- A
LOT OF TIMES I WOULD RATHER
JUST GIVE UP.
>> DR. PHIL: I ASKED A
COLLEAGUE OF MINE TO COME HERE
TODAY THAT DEALS WITH JUST
THIS KINDA THING.
THE ADDICTION TO GAMING THAT
HAS WORKED IN THIS FIELD, HAS
STUDIED THIS DIRECTLY.
ALTHOUGH, INTERNET GAMING IS
NOT CURRENTLY RECOGNIZED AS A
DISORDER ADDICTION, SOME IN
THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY
CERTAINLY BELIEVE OTHERWISE.
DR. KENNETH WILKENSON IS A
DOCTOR WHO RUNS A COMPUTER
ADDICTION TREATMENT PROGRAM IN
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.
DOCTOR, YOU BELIEVE THIS IS A
VERY REAL PHENOMENON AND
SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS AT A
BRAIN, LEVEL, CORRECT?
>> ABSOLUTELY, IT'S A REAL
PHENOMENON.
>> DR. PHIL: DEFINE THE
ADDICTION, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE
INDIVIDUAL, PHYSICALLY,
PHYSIOLOGICALLY.
>> THE SCIENCE OF ADDICTION
OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS,
THERE'S A REWARD CENTER OF THE
BRAIN.
THAT PART OF THE BRAIN IS
ACTIVATED WHEN WE EXPERIENCE
PLEASURE.
DRUGS OF ADDICTION, HEROIN,
ACTIVATE THAT IN A POWERFUL
WAY.
IT DOESN'T TAKE A LOT OF USE
TO GET ADDICTED.
ON THE GAMING SIDE THEY SEE
THE SAME REWARD PATHWAYS LIGHT
UP WHEN KIDS PLAY GAMES.
BECAUSE THEY PLAY FOR SO LONG
AND SO OFTEN, OVER SUCH A LONG
SPAN OF TIME, THESE SAME
EXPERIENCES OF ADDICTION SEEM
TO COME ABOUT.
SO THEY -- WE SEE THE SAME
RESULT AND IT'S CLEAR THEY
CAN'T QUIT ON THEIR OWN.
YITE -- DESPITE ALL OF THE
NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR
PLAY, THEY STILL CAN'T QUIT ON
THEIR OWN.
THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF
ADDICTION.
>> WHEN YOU HAVE AN
INTERACTIVE EFFECT OF
MARIJUANA, THE CONSTANT USE OF
MARIJUANA, AND THE CONSTANT
GAMING, AND THOSE THINGS
INTERACT, THERE COULD BE A
MULTIPLICITY EFFECT GOING ON?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THIS IS AVOIDANCE.
THE REAL WORLD IS TOUGH, YOU
HAVE TO FACE ANXIETY.
FACE DEPRESSION HEAD-ON.
WHEN YOU GO INTO THE VIRTUAL
WORLD OR USE AN INTOXICATING
DRUG HE CAN ESCAPE THAT.
>> DR. PHIL: SO WHAT EFFECTS
HAVE ALL OF THIS AND
COMPULSIVE GAMING HAD ON HIS
OVERALL HEALTH?
IS HIS LOVE FOR THE ON LINE
WORLD REALLY TRULY SLOWLY
KILLING HIM?
WELL, DR. RACHEL ROSS, FROM
THE DOCTORS IS GONNA JOIN US
NEXT, BECAUSE WE DID AN
EXPERIMENT WITH HIM, HE WILL
FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN
HE'S HOOKED UP!
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[ APPLAUSE ]
¶ ¶
>> Announcer: TOMORROW ON AN ALL-NEW DR. PHIL. SHE SLEPT HAD HER SISTER'S
MAN.
>>
[ APPLAUSE ] ¶ ¶ >> DR. PHIL: JUSTIN'S MOTHER,
SARAH, BELIEVES THAT HER SON'S
ADMITTED GAMING ADDICTION IS
RUINING HIS HEALTH.
HE BARELY SLEEPS OR EATS, HE'S
LOST WEIGHT AND HAS CHIPPED
TEETH.
I MEAN, YOU ARE SEEING A
DETERIORATION ACROSS THE BOARD
WANTED A MEDICAL ASSESSMENT,
SO WE SENT HIM TO SEE DR.
RACHEL ROZ, FROM -- ROSS.
FROM THE EMMY AWARD-WINNING
SHOW THE DOCTORS.
>> WE BROUGHT JUSTIN HERE TO
DO A PHYSICAL EXAM WHILE HE'S
GAMING.
WE WILL LOOK AT HIS PULSE,
HEART RATE, AND BLOOD
PRESSURE.
WHAT I AM GONNA DO TODAY IS WE
WILL GET YOUR GAME OUT; YOU
WILL PLAY IT SO WE CAN CHECK
AND SEE HOW YOUR HEALTH IS
DOING WHILE YOU ARE CONSUMED
WITH YOUR VIDEO GAME.
>> ALL RIGHT, SOUNDS COOL.
>> A -- YOU WILL BE HOOKED UP
TO THE HEART MONITOR.
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>> WHAT WE ARE DOING IS MONITORING YOU IN THE RESTING
STATE.
YOU ARE RELAXED, YOU
ANTICIPATE GAMING AND YOU
HAVEN'T STARTED YET.
NOW LET'S LOOK AT IT WHEN YOU
ACTUALLY START GAMING.
>> OKAY.
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>> HELLO. >> HI.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> WELL, YOU WERE INTO THAT
GAME.
SO, JUSTIN I THINK I HAVE
ENOUGH DATA TO KIND OF ANALYZE
TO LET YOU KNOW HOW GAMING HAS
BEEN EFFECTING YOUR HEALTH,
OKAY?
I THINK I WILL HAVE SOME
ANSWERS.
>> I AM EXCITED TO HEAR ABOUT
IT.
>> SO, DR. PHIL, WE FOUND
DEFINITIVE PHYSIOLOGICAL
CHANGES JUSTIN WENT THROUGH
WHILE GAMING, EVEN TO THE
POINT WHEN I WENT TO REMOVE
HIS PADS THEY ALMOST SLIPPED
OFF BECAUSE HE WAS SWEATING SO
MUCH.
>> JOINING US AS A RESULT OF
THESE TESTS IS DR. RACHEL
ROSS.
WHAT DID YOU FIND OUT, WHAT'S
HAPPENING TO HIM
>> HIS RESTING HEARTRATE IS
80.
HIS RESTING HEARTRATE WHILE
PLAYING ALL DAY LONG IS 120.
BUT WHEN HE IS REALLY AT IT,
IT GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO 200.
THE BE WERE IS --
>> DR. PHIL: HIS HEART RATE
WENT TO 200?
>> HIS HEART RATE WENT TO 200,
HE WAS SO INTO THE GAME, AND
HE WASN'T EVEN COMPETING.
WHAT BOTHERS ME ABOUT THIS,
IS, IF FOR THE MAJORITY OF HIS
DAY, HIS HEARTRATE IS 1-20-200,
GET THE RIGHT AMOUNT OF OXYGEN
IT NEEDS TO SURVIVE, HIS HEART
WILL GET BIGGER AND WEAKER.
AND CONVENTIONALLY, END UP
WITH HEART FAILURE.
SO NOT ONLY WITH THAT, WHILE
HE'S GAMING, YOU KNOW HOW WE
REMEMBER TO BREATHE, WE TAKE
DEEP BREATHS HE TAKES SHALLOW
BREATHS.
THE AMOUNT OF OXYGEN THAT'S
SUPPOSED TO GET TO THE BODIES
AND CELLS, 100%, HIS DROPPED
DOWN AS LOW AS 92%.
SO, NOT GETTING THE RIGHT
AMOUNT OF OXYGEN, HIS HEART IS
RACING ALL DAY LONG AND REALLY
THIS IS A SCARY THING FOR YOU.
>> DR. PHIL: IF YOU HAD A
PATIENT THAT WALKED INTO YOUR
OFFICE AND, THEY HAD A 220
HEART RATE, WOULD YOU PUT THEM
IN THE HOSPITAL?
>> WE WOULD ADMIT THEM.
ESPECIALLY FOR A 23-YEAR-OLD
PERSON.
>> YOU WOULD PUT THEM STRAIGHT
IN THE HOSPITAL.
>> THIS WOULD BE CONSIDERED AN
EMERGENCY.
>> DR. PHIL: DO YOU WANT TO
CHANGE THIS?
I AM NOT SAYING YOU KNOW HOW,
AND I AM NOT SAYING THAT AT
ALL.
BUT DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT?
>> I THINK DEEP DOWN, YEAH, I
DO.
>> DR. PHIL: YEAH.
UM, ALL RIGHT. LOOK, LET'S TAKE A BREAK.
HOW CAN JUSTIN END THIS
DESTRUCTIVE PATH OF COMPULSIVE
GAMING?
A GIVE HIM AND HIS PARENTS MY
ADVICE.
WHEN WE COME BACK.
[ APPLAUSE ]
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HEY, DR. PHIL HERE, DID YOU KNOW RIGHT HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, MORE THAN 16 MILLION
KIDS STRUGGLE WITH HUNGER EACH
DAY?
AND WITHOUT FREE SCHOOL
LUNCHES, MANY WILL MISS MEALS
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FORTUNATELY, YOU CAN HELP KIDS
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FOCUSING ON FUN.
VISIT
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FIND YOUR LOCAL FOOD BANK
>>
>> WE CAN'T DO THIS SHOW WITHOUT YOU, OUR STUDIO
AUDIENCE.
>> IF YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN
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AND CLICK ON "BE IN THE
AUDIENCE."
>> OR YOU CAN CALL
323-461-PHIL THAT'S
323-461-7445.
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>> DR. PHIL: EARLIER IN THE SHOW YOU SAW MY "DR. PHIL" AVATAR ROAMING AROUND IN THE
2ND LIFE VIRTUAL WORLD.
AND THE CEO OF LINDON LAB, ARE
THE CREATORS OF 2ND LIFE AND I
ASKED HIM TO COME HERE TODAY
BECAUSE, UM, AS MUCH AS WE ARE
SEEING A TOXIC EFFECT HERE,
UM, IN FAIRNESS, THERE ARE A
LOT OF REALLY POSITIVE THINGS
THAT COME FROM THIS, RIGHT
>> OH, YEAH.
IT'S , UM, AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT
OF GOOD THAT CAN HAPPEN
THROUGH VIRTUAL REALITY
EXPERIENCES N. 2ND LIFE, YOU
HAVE ANYTHING FROM EDUCATION,
TEXAS A & M TEACHING CHEMISTRY
TO STUDENTS IN THE REAL WORLD.
HEALTH, PEOPLE -- HELP PEOPLE
WHO CAN'T WALK.
PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES CAN
PERFORM THINGS IN THE VIRTUAL
WORLD.
EVERYTHING IN SECOND LIFE IS
CREATED BY THE USERS SO IT'S
NOT A GAME, IT'S A PLACE FOR
PEOPLE TO CREATE AND SOCIALIZE
AND SHARE.
>> DR. PHIL: THERE ARE GAMERS
WHO FIND A WAY TO BALANCE
PLAYING IN THE VIRTUAL WORLD
WITH THE REAL WORLD.
24-YEAR-OLD DOMINIC, HAS BEEN
GAMING 20 YEARS, MEANING HE
STARTED WHEN HE WAS 4.
HE SAYS HE'S AAVID GAME PLAYER
WITH 25 GAMES ON HIS CELL
PHONE ALONE.
DOMINIC, YOU PLAY HOW MANY
HOURS A DAY?
>> NOW I ONLY PLAY LIKE 1-2
HOURS A DAY.
PRIOR I WOULD PLAY 16-24 HOURS
SOMETIMES.
>> YEAH.
BUT YOU BALANCED IT, HOW DID
YOU DO THAT?
>> IF I GET ALL OF MY WORK
DONE, I GAME FOR 2 HOURS, IF
NOT, NO GAMING AT ALL.
I USE IT AS LIKE AN INCENTIVE.
>> YOSHI, IS A 27-YEAR-OLD
WHO'S BEEN GAMING SINCE HE WAS
A BOY.
AND HE WORKS FULL TIME, HE HAS
A WAY TO KEEP HIS GAME PLAYING
FROM INTERFERING WITH HIS
LIFE.
HOW DO YOU DO IT?
>> FROM THE OPPOSITE, I JUST,
IF I REALLY FEEL LIKE PLAYING
THAT DAY, SOMETIMES I WILL GET
UP 2 HOURS EARLY, PLAY FOR A
WHILE BEFORE I GO ABOUT THE
REGULAR DAY AND GET MY OTHER
STUFF DONE.
>> DR. PHIL: THE POINT IS,
YOU GUYS ENJOY IT, BUT YOU
BALANCED IT WITH YOUR LIFE AND
BOTH OF YOU HAVE SUCCESSFUL
CAREERS AND DO THINGS THAT YOU
GET REWARDED FOR IN THE REAL
WORLD, RIGHT
>> YES.
>> DR. PHIL: CLEARLY WHAT YOU
ARE DOING HAS GOTTEN TO THE
POINT OF BEING
SELF-DESTRUCTIVE, DO YOU AGREE
WITH THAT?
>> I AGREE.
YEAH.
>> DR. PHIL: WHEN YOU LOOK AT
YOUR FAMILY HISTORY, I LOOK AT
ALL OF THE FORCES THAT ARE
IMPINGING ON YOU RIGHT NOW, I
LOOK AT YOUR CHRONIC DRUG USE,
AND YOUR EXCESSIVE GAMING.
I DON'T THINK THERE IS ONE
CHANCE IN HELL THAT YOU CAN
STOP THIS ON YOUR OWN.
YOU NEED TO BE, UM, EVALUATED
ON A MULTILEVEL FASHION, AND I
AM GOING TO RECOMMEND SENDING
YOU TO THE P & P CENTER, WHICH
IS , UM, WHAT I THINK IS THE
TOP DIAGNOSTICS CENTER IN THE
COUNTRY TO DO EVALUATION, AND
AT THAT POINT, I THINK A PLAN
IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED THAT
I VERY MUCH PREDICT IS GOING
TO INCLUDE RECOMMENDING
PUTTING HIM INTO A DUAL
DIAGNOSIS TREATMENT CENTER
THAT DEALS WITH DEPRESSION,
DEALS WITH ANXIETY , AND DEALS
WITH HIS ADDICTIVE BEHAVIORS.
ALL SIMULTANEOUSLY.
AND I AM GONNA HOPE THAT,
THAT'S ORIGINS RECOVERY CENTER
IN SOUTH TEXAS, UNDER BEN
LEVENSON'S DIRECTION, BUT I
WON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL THE P &
P CENTER DOES THE FULL EVAL TO
SEE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH HIM,
NEUROLOGICALLY, BIOCHEMICALLY
AND FIZZLY.
I WANT TO -- PHYSICALICALLY.
>> I WANT TO OFFER THAT TO
YOUR FAMILY, ARE YOU WILLING
TO TAKE THAT HELP?
>> I THINK SO, YEAH.
[ APPLAUSE ]
>> DR. PHIL: AND, YOU KNOW,
THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH.
AND WHAT I ASK YOU TO DO CAN
IS TAKE IT A STEP AT A TIME.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE FOR YOU?
>> YEAH.
>> DR. PHIL: I THINK WE WILL
BRING IN STRONG RESOURCES.
THANK YOU FOR ALL BEING HERE
AND SHARING YOUR STORIES.
NEXT I HAVE A SPECIAL SURPRISE
THAT COULD CHANGE YOUR LIFE.
WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT AFTER
THE BREAK N.
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>> YOU KNOW, THE #1 QUESTION I GET THIS TIME OF YEAR? DR. PHIL, HOW DOES THIS
HAPPEN?
I SAID I WAS GONNA LOSE WEIGHT
AND I GOT BIGGER NOT SMALLER.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME?
WELL, NOTHING'S WRONG WITH
YOU, BUT I GOTTA TELL YOU THIS
IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.
THE TRUTH IS, IT'S ALL ABOUT
PROGRAMMING AND MANAGEMENT.
IT'S NOT ABOUT WILL POWER,
THAT'S WHAT YOU TRY TO DO,
RIGHT SNUGUT UP, I AM -- YOU
JUST GUT UP.
"I AM GONNA DO THIS".
YOU GET THE NEW JOGGING SHOES
AND YOU PUT THEM ON THE PORCH
BUT THE DAMNED THINGS WILL NOT
JOG.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> IT'S NOT ABOUT FAD DIETS.
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 10 YEARS
I HAVE WRITTEN A WEIGHT-LOSS
BOOK.
IT'S CALLED THE 20/20 DIET!
[ APPLAUSE ]
>> AND THE BEST PART OF THE
20/20 DIET, HERE'S THE DEAL.
20 FOODS, THREE PHASES AND
SERIOUS EMERGING SCIENCE ABOUT
THERMOGENESIS, AND TIME
RELEASED FOODS THAT STICK WITH
YOU SO YOU DON'T GET HUNGRY.
AND EAT ANYTHING THAT'S DEAD
OR SERIOUSLY SLOWED DOWN.
OKAY?
THIS STICKS WITH YOU, AND
EXERCISE THAT MAKES SENSE.
YOU GIVE ME 2-3 MONTHS AND
SOME REAL EFFORT HERE AND IN
YOUR BODY, CHANGE YOUR
LIFESTYLE AND EATING HABITS
LONG-TERM AND I AM GONNA GIVE
YOU A CHANGE YOU CAN BE PROUD
OF.
LET'S DO THIS RIGHT ONE TIME!
SO IN THE SPIRIT OF GIVING,
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU IN THE
AUDIENCE IS GOING HOME WITH
YOUR OWN COPY OF THE 20/20
DIET!
[ APPLAUSE ]
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>> DR. PHIL: NOW, THAT MEANS
I WANNA SEE A WHOLE LOT LESS
OF YOU THE NEXT TIME I SEE
YOU.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> DR. PHIL: WE WILL BE
WORKING OUT OF THIS FOR THE
REST OF THE SEASON, YOU CAN BE
IN PHASE 1 BEFORE YOU KNOW IT.
WE WILL START WITH 5
SUPERFOODS! I SAY "SUPER"
BECAUSE THEY ARE CLEAN,
EFFICIENT AND POWERFUL.
YOU WILL NOT BE HUNGRY! I
WANT TO THANK ALL OF MY GUESTS
TODAY.
I VERY SPECIAL THANKS TO DR.
RACHEL ROSS, CO-HOST OF THE
HIT TV SHOW, THE DOCTORS.
DR. KENNETH WITHOOG, AND CEO
OF LINDON LABS WHERE THEY
CREATED MY AVATAR AND IN THE
SECOND DEGREELIFE.
SO LONG! -- 2ND LIFE.
SO LONG. SEE YOU. [ APPLAUSE ]
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[ APPLAUSE ]
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>> DR. PHIL: SEE YOU. BYE-BYE.
[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]
¶ ¶ [ APPLAUSE ]
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