1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,250 it is my privilege to be here this 2 00:00:00,250 --> 00:00:03,530 索尔金：很荣幸 今晚能与马云先生坐在这里 it is my privilege to be here this 3 00:00:03,530 --> 00:00:03,630 索尔金：很荣幸 今晚能与马云先生坐在这里 4 00:00:03,630 --> 00:00:04,070 索尔金：很荣幸 今晚能与马云先生坐在这里 evening with Jack Ma one of the great 5 00:00:04,070 --> 00:00:05,080 我们时代的最优秀的企业家之一 evening with Jack Ma one of the great 6 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,160 我们时代的最优秀的企业家之一 entrepreneurs of our time of course the 7 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:07,410 阿里巴巴的创立者 entrepreneurs of our time of course the 8 00:00:07,410 --> 00:00:07,870 阿里巴巴的创立者 entrepreneurs of our time of course the 9 00:00:07,870 --> 00:00:09,120 阿里巴巴的创立者 founder of Alibaba and we have so many 10 00:00:09,120 --> 00:00:09,450 接下来的半小时 我们要讨论很多话题 founder of Alibaba and we have so many 11 00:00:09,450 --> 00:00:10,030 接下来的半小时 我们要讨论很多话题 founder of Alibaba and we have so many 12 00:00:10,030 --> 00:00:11,080 接下来的半小时 我们要讨论很多话题 things to talk about 13 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,150 接下来的半小时 我们要讨论很多话题 over the next half an hour and of course 14 00:00:13,150 --> 00:00:13,270 我们也会尽量让观众提问 over the next half an hour and of course 15 00:00:13,270 --> 00:00:14,380 我们也会尽量让观众提问 we also want to try to get to your 16 00:00:14,380 --> 00:00:15,520 我们也会尽量让观众提问 questions as well we're going to talk 17 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:16,900 并且谈谈阿里巴巴、中国 questions as well we're going to talk 18 00:00:16,900 --> 00:00:19,470 并且谈谈阿里巴巴、中国 about Alibaba of course but also China 19 00:00:19,470 --> 00:00:19,720 并且谈谈阿里巴巴、中国 the Trump world that we all live in 20 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,640 特朗普和美国、全球化与贸易等话题 the Trump world that we all live in 21 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,310 特朗普和美国、全球化与贸易等话题 globalization trade and so many 22 00:00:26,310 --> 00:00:27,150 特朗普和美国、全球化与贸易等话题 other issues but first of all thank you 23 00:00:27,150 --> 00:00:29,190 首先感谢马云先生 other issues but first of all thank you 24 00:00:29,190 --> 00:00:29,420 首先感谢马云先生 my honour this yeah let me 25 00:00:29,420 --> 00:00:30,920 my honour this yeah let me 26 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:31,720 你刚刚到访了特朗普大厦 my honour this yeah let me 27 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,970 你刚刚到访了特朗普大厦 start with this which is to say that you 28 00:00:33,970 --> 00:00:36,490 你刚刚到访了特朗普大厦 just spent some time inside Trump Tower 29 00:00:36,490 --> 00:00:36,920 你刚刚到访了特朗普大厦 and went to go visit with Donald yeah 30 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,420 and went to go visit with Donald yeah 31 00:00:38,420 --> 00:00:40,960 与候任总统特朗普会面 and went to go visit with Donald yeah 32 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:42,420 与候任总统特朗普会面 our president-elect in the United States 33 00:00:42,420 --> 00:00:42,450 our president-elect in the United States 34 00:00:42,450 --> 00:00:43,260 可否介绍一下这次会面 our president-elect in the United States 35 00:00:43,260 --> 00:00:44,950 可否介绍一下这次会面 tell us about that meeting that's very 36 00:00:44,950 --> 00:00:45,250 tell us about that meeting that's very 37 00:00:45,250 --> 00:00:46,300 马云：这次会面富有成效，比我预期好 tell us about that meeting that's very 38 00:00:46,300 --> 00:00:48,940 马云：这次会面富有成效，比我预期好 productive meeting much better than I 39 00:00:48,940 --> 00:00:49,440 马云：这次会面富有成效，比我预期好 thought 40 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:50,170 马云：这次会面富有成效，比我预期好 than I expected what did you expect well 41 00:00:50,170 --> 00:00:50,420 than I expected what did you expect well 42 00:00:50,420 --> 00:00:52,000 索尔思：你有什么预期 than I expected what did you expect well 43 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:52,400 than I expected what did you expect well 44 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:52,870 马云：我和大家一样也听说了很多 than I expected what did you expect well 45 00:00:52,870 --> 00:00:55,620 马云：我和大家一样也听说了很多 I heard a lot and a watch like everybody 46 00:00:55,620 --> 00:00:55,650 看到了很多关于他的新闻 I heard a lot and a watch like everybody 47 00:00:55,650 --> 00:00:57,940 看到了很多关于他的新闻 I watch all the news and heard a lot about 48 00:00:57,940 --> 00:00:59,070 看到了很多关于他的新闻 him so when I go inside and saw mmm 49 00:00:59,070 --> 00:01:00,990 进去之后，感到他心态开放而且乐于倾听我的看法 him so when I go inside and saw mmm 50 00:01:00,990 --> 00:01:04,940 进去之后，感到他心态开放而且乐于倾听我的看法 anything that but he's very sort of 51 00:01:04,940 --> 00:01:08,070 进去之后，感到他心态开放而且乐于倾听我的看法 open minded listen what I talk so I 52 00:01:08,070 --> 00:01:08,900 open minded listen what I talk so I 53 00:01:08,900 --> 00:01:09,570 我对于谈话的成果非常高兴 open minded listen what I talk so I 54 00:01:09,570 --> 00:01:11,520 我对于谈话的成果非常高兴 think I am very happy about results 55 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:11,640 我对于谈话的成果非常高兴 56 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:12,700 我对于谈话的成果非常高兴 finally when he said he offered said Jack 57 00:01:12,700 --> 00:01:13,860 他主动提出来要送我下楼 finally when he said he offered said Jack 58 00:01:13,860 --> 00:01:15,300 他主动提出来要送我下楼 let me walk you down so I think he's 59 00:01:15,300 --> 00:01:16,210 我想他对此次会面的成果应该也非常高兴 let me walk you down so I think he's 60 00:01:16,210 --> 00:01:18,320 我想他对此次会面的成果应该也非常高兴 very happy about the results we had can 61 00:01:18,320 --> 00:01:18,790 索尔金：其实是你打给他，还是他打给你 very happy about the results we had can 62 00:01:18,790 --> 00:01:20,070 索尔金：其实是你打给他，还是他打给你 I ask how does that meeting like that 63 00:01:20,070 --> 00:01:23,460 索尔金：其实是你打给他，还是他打给你 happen do you call him does he call you 64 00:01:23,460 --> 00:01:23,850 索尔金：其实是你打给他，还是他打给你 well how does this take place well 65 00:01:23,850 --> 00:01:24,220 well how does this take place well 66 00:01:24,220 --> 00:01:26,200 这次会面是如何促成的 well how does this take place well 67 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:26,320 well how does this take place well 68 00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:26,820 马云：这也是我问自己的问题 well how does this take place well 69 00:01:26,820 --> 00:01:28,890 马云：这也是我问自己的问题 that's that's the question I'm asking 70 00:01:28,890 --> 00:01:30,150 马云：这也是我问自己的问题 myself because some day I got some 71 00:01:30,150 --> 00:01:30,920 myself because some day I got some 72 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,710 有一天，有人问我你想不想与候任总统见面 myself because some day I got some 73 00:01:34,710 --> 00:01:36,960 有一天，有人问我你想不想与候任总统见面 requests from people say Jack do you 74 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:38,920 有一天，有人问我你想不想与候任总统见面 want a meeting with President-elect I say 75 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:39,450 want a meeting with President-elect I say 76 00:01:39,450 --> 00:01:39,870 我说真的吗，我还没准备好 want a meeting with President-elect I say 77 00:01:39,870 --> 00:01:43,440 我说真的吗，我还没准备好 is that true because I'm not ready 78 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:44,200 我说真的吗，我还没准备好 for that because I don't know what to 79 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:45,370 for that because I don't know what to 80 00:01:45,370 --> 00:01:46,930 我不知道要谈些什么 for that because I don't know what to 81 00:01:46,930 --> 00:01:47,500 我不知道要谈些什么 talk about and then few days later I got 82 00:01:47,500 --> 00:01:47,700 talk about and then few days later I got 83 00:01:47,700 --> 00:01:49,350 过了几天，又收到了几次 talk about and then few days later I got 84 00:01:49,350 --> 00:01:50,940 过了几天，又收到了几次 another request I got several requests 85 00:01:50,940 --> 00:01:51,520 过了几天，又收到了几次 and then I saw one email with friend 86 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,250 有个朋友发邮件给我问同一件事情 and then I saw one email with friend 87 00:01:53,250 --> 00:01:56,190 有个朋友发邮件给我问同一件事情 and very sort of specific I 88 00:01:56,190 --> 00:01:57,500 有个朋友发邮件给我问同一件事情 thought about it I think yes maybe I 89 00:01:57,500 --> 00:01:59,250 我想了想也许我应该去谈一谈 thought about it I think yes maybe I 90 00:01:59,250 --> 00:02:01,050 我想了想也许我应该去谈一谈 should go and have a talk and at least I 91 00:02:01,050 --> 00:02:03,150 至少特朗普可能会对我说的东西感到高兴 should go and have a talk and at least I 92 00:02:03,150 --> 00:02:08,490 至少特朗普可能会对我说的东西感到高兴 think President elect Donald trump would 93 00:02:08,490 --> 00:02:10,710 至少特朗普可能会对我说的东西感到高兴 be happy to hear what I want to talk 94 00:02:10,710 --> 00:02:11,170 至少特朗普可能会对我说的东西感到高兴 about so I went and what did 95 00:02:11,170 --> 00:02:11,300 about so I went and what did 96 00:02:11,300 --> 00:02:12,370 所以我就去了 about so I went and what did 97 00:02:12,370 --> 00:02:12,600 about so I went and what did 98 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:13,210 索尔金：你跟他说什么了？？ about so I went and what did 99 00:02:13,210 --> 00:02:13,870 索尔金：你跟他说什么了？？ you tell him talk about the small business 100 00:02:13,870 --> 00:02:14,170 you tell him talk about the small business 101 00:02:14,170 --> 00:02:16,380 我们谈论了中小企业、农产品、中美贸易 you tell him talk about the small business 102 00:02:16,380 --> 00:02:19,240 我们谈论了中小企业、农产品、中美贸易 talk about agriculture products talk 103 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,630 我们谈论了中小企业、农产品、中美贸易 about the trade between China and the 104 00:02:21,630 --> 00:02:22,400 我们谈论了中小企业、农产品、中美贸易 USA we special focus on Talk telling 105 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:22,770 USA we special focus on Talk telling 106 00:02:22,770 --> 00:02:25,120 特别是聚焦让美国企业通过我们的网络面向亚洲销售 USA we special focus on Talk telling 107 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,160 特别是聚焦让美国企业通过我们的网络面向亚洲销售 about how can we bring this small 108 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,370 特别是聚焦让美国企业通过我们的网络面向亚洲销售 business in America sell them to China 109 00:02:30,370 --> 00:02:32,550 特别是聚焦让美国企业通过我们的网络面向亚洲销售 to Asia through our network which can 110 00:02:32,550 --> 00:02:32,770 to Asia through our network which can 111 00:02:32,770 --> 00:02:33,370 而这将为他们创造大量工作机会 to Asia through our network which can 112 00:02:33,370 --> 00:02:34,800 而这将为他们创造大量工作机会 create a lot of jobs for them and you 113 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:35,320 索尔金：你承诺未来五年为美国创造100万个职位 create a lot of jobs for them and you 114 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,300 索尔金：你承诺未来五年为美国创造100万个职位 committed to create what you say is 115 00:02:37,300 --> 00:02:38,820 索尔金：你承诺未来五年为美国创造100万个职位 we're going to 1 million jobs in the 116 00:02:38,820 --> 00:02:41,100 索尔金：你承诺未来五年为美国创造100万个职位 United States yeah over five 117 00:02:41,100 --> 00:02:41,700 索尔金：你承诺未来五年为美国创造100万个职位 years yeah now that's not a million jobs 118 00:02:41,700 --> 00:02:42,650 years yeah now that's not a million jobs 119 00:02:42,650 --> 00:02:43,510 不是阿里巴巴直接雇佣？ years yeah now that's not a million jobs 120 00:02:43,510 --> 00:02:45,160 不是阿里巴巴直接雇佣？ that Alibaba itself but you're 121 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:46,000 不是阿里巴巴直接雇佣？ not hiring a million people no we are 122 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:46,810 马云：不是我们雇佣 not hiring a million people no we are 123 00:02:46,810 --> 00:02:46,840 马云：不是我们雇佣 124 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,370 马云：不是我们雇佣 all totally Alibaba employed put 125 00:02:48,370 --> 00:02:49,270 all totally Alibaba employed put 126 00:02:49,270 --> 00:02:50,430 阿里巴巴有4.5万名员工 all totally Alibaba employed put 127 00:02:50,430 --> 00:02:52,520 阿里巴巴有4.5万名员工 together it's like a forty five thousand 128 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:52,540 together it's like a forty five thousand 129 00:02:52,540 --> 00:02:52,700 people we cannot hire one million I 130 00:02:52,700 --> 00:02:54,570 我们没法办请100万人 people we cannot hire one million I 131 00:02:54,570 --> 00:02:54,620 我们没法办请100万人 cannot imagine I can manage one million 132 00:02:54,620 --> 00:02:56,260 我无法想象我们可以管理100万人 cannot imagine I can manage one million 133 00:02:56,260 --> 00:02:58,570 我无法想象我们可以管理100万人 people explain to us how you think about 134 00:02:58,570 --> 00:02:58,720 people explain to us how you think about 135 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,490 索尔金；请谈谈你如何看待中美关系 people explain to us how you think about 136 00:03:00,490 --> 00:03:03,050 索尔金；请谈谈你如何看待中美关系 the us-china relationship given some of 137 00:03:03,050 --> 00:03:03,820 如何评论特朗普 之前对于中国操纵货币的言论？ the us-china relationship given some of 138 00:03:03,820 --> 00:03:05,350 如何评论特朗普 之前对于中国操纵货币的言论？ the comments that Donald Trump has made 139 00:03:05,350 --> 00:03:08,020 如何评论特朗普 之前对于中国操纵货币的言论？ about China being a manipulate 140 00:03:08,020 --> 00:03:08,520 如何评论特朗普 之前对于中国操纵货币的言论？ currency manipulated did that come up there 141 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:08,850 你们再会面中谈到这些了吗 currency manipulated did that come up there 142 00:03:08,850 --> 00:03:09,550 你们再会面中谈到这些了吗 currency manipulated did that come up there 143 00:03:09,550 --> 00:03:10,500 你们再会面中谈到这些了吗 in your meeting well I think first in 144 00:03:10,500 --> 00:03:10,850 in your meeting well I think first in 145 00:03:10,850 --> 00:03:12,690 马云：首先在美国言论自由 in your meeting well I think first in 146 00:03:12,690 --> 00:03:14,380 马云：首先在美国言论自由 America there's a freedom of speech 147 00:03:14,380 --> 00:03:15,250 马云：首先在美国言论自由 All right so he can say whatever he want and 148 00:03:15,250 --> 00:03:15,920 All right so he can say whatever he want and 149 00:03:15,920 --> 00:03:18,220 他可以说任何他想说的 All right so he can say whatever he want and 150 00:03:18,220 --> 00:03:18,370 他可以说任何他想说的 I respect and I understand but of course I 151 00:03:18,370 --> 00:03:20,020 我尊重而且也理解 I respect and I understand but of course I 152 00:03:20,020 --> 00:03:20,420 I respect and I understand but of course I 153 00:03:20,420 --> 00:03:21,720 但我也有自己的观点 I respect and I understand but of course I 154 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,020 但我也有自己的观点 have my views we did not debate about 155 00:03:23,020 --> 00:03:24,910 我们不会辩论中美贸易、操纵这些 have my views we did not debate about 156 00:03:24,910 --> 00:03:27,970 我们不会辩论中美贸易、操纵这些 the china-us a trade or manipulation 157 00:03:27,970 --> 00:03:28,870 我们不会辩论中美贸易、操纵这些 we did not debate 158 00:03:28,870 --> 00:03:28,990 we did not debate 159 00:03:28,990 --> 00:03:29,300 actually we agreed 160 00:03:29,300 --> 00:03:32,190 但我们达成了一些共识 actually we agreed 161 00:03:32,190 --> 00:03:33,550 但我们达成了一些共识 on something small business developed in 162 00:03:33,550 --> 00:03:33,800 on something small business developed in 163 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,430 中小企业、开发中西部，帮助当地农民和中小企业出口到中国 on something small business developed in 164 00:03:35,430 --> 00:03:37,380 中小企业、开发中西部，帮助当地农民和中小企业出口到中国 the Middle West America helping the 165 00:03:37,380 --> 00:03:39,660 中小企业、开发中西部，帮助当地农民和中小企业出口到中国 farmers there's small business there to 166 00:03:39,660 --> 00:03:41,400 中小企业、开发中西部，帮助当地农民和中小企业出口到中国 exporting to China so we all agree but 167 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:41,820 exporting to China so we all agree but 168 00:03:41,820 --> 00:03:42,250 我们不会谈美国的就业岗位流失到墨西哥、中国等 exporting to China so we all agree but 169 00:03:42,250 --> 00:03:43,570 我们不会谈美国的就业岗位流失到墨西哥、中国等 something that we did not discuss about 170 00:03:43,570 --> 00:03:46,960 我们不会谈美国的就业岗位流失到墨西哥、中国等 the you know the American the job 171 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,120 我们不会谈美国的就业岗位流失到墨西哥、中国等 losing to China and Mexico and this 172 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:50,350 losing to China and Mexico and this 173 00:03:50,350 --> 00:03:50,850 我可以分享下我的看法吗？ losing to China and Mexico and this 174 00:03:50,850 --> 00:03:52,220 我可以分享下我的看法吗？ can I share with you my ideas please yeah 175 00:03:52,220 --> 00:03:54,750 can I share with you my ideas please yeah 176 00:03:54,970 --> 00:03:55,020 首先，30年前当我刚刚大学毕业时 177 00:03:55,020 --> 00:03:58,530 首先，30年前当我刚刚大学毕业时 first I think thirty years ago when I 178 00:03:58,530 --> 00:04:00,100 首先，30年前当我刚刚大学毕业时 just graduate from universities I 179 00:04:00,100 --> 00:04:00,420 just graduate from universities I 180 00:04:00,420 --> 00:04:00,690 我们听说的是美国的美好战略 just graduate from universities I 181 00:04:00,690 --> 00:04:03,750 我们听说的是美国的美好战略 heard America and a wonderful strategy 182 00:04:03,750 --> 00:04:03,770 我们听说的是美国的美好战略 they outsource the manufactured job 183 00:04:03,770 --> 00:04:04,250 they outsource the manufactured job 184 00:04:04,250 --> 00:04:06,960 将制造就业外包给墨西哥、中国 they outsource the manufactured job 185 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,060 将制造就业外包给墨西哥、中国 service jobs they outsource the manufacturers 186 00:04:10,060 --> 00:04:11,570 将制造就业外包给墨西哥、中国 to Mexico and China outsource the service 187 00:04:11,570 --> 00:04:11,800 to Mexico and China outsource the service 188 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,210 把服务业外包给印度 to Mexico and China outsource the service 189 00:04:13,210 --> 00:04:14,500 把服务业外包给印度 jobs to Indian there's a book called 190 00:04:14,500 --> 00:04:14,750 jobs to Indian there's a book called 191 00:04:14,750 --> 00:04:16,000 有本书叫世界是平的 jobs to Indian there's a book called 192 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,300 有本书叫世界是平的 the world is flat yeah 193 00:04:17,300 --> 00:04:18,460 the world is flat yeah 194 00:04:18,460 --> 00:04:19,220 and I think this is 195 00:04:19,220 --> 00:04:20,250 我觉得这是完美战略 and I think this is 196 00:04:20,250 --> 00:04:21,900 我觉得这是完美战略 perfect strategy and all that the 197 00:04:21,900 --> 00:04:22,000 perfect strategy and all that the 198 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,340 美国说只想控制知识产权、科技、品牌 perfect strategy and all that the 199 00:04:23,340 --> 00:04:25,420 美国说只想控制知识产权、科技、品牌 American said we just want to control 200 00:04:25,420 --> 00:04:25,790 美国说只想控制知识产权、科技、品牌 the IP 201 00:04:25,790 --> 00:04:28,070 美国说只想控制知识产权、科技、品牌 we just want to technology we just 202 00:04:28,070 --> 00:04:30,920 美国说只想控制知识产权、科技、品牌 want a brand leave the low and 203 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:31,500 美国说只想控制知识产权、科技、品牌 the jobs for the world grace strategy 204 00:04:31,500 --> 00:04:31,820 而降较低层次的工作交给世界 the jobs for the world grace strategy 205 00:04:31,820 --> 00:04:33,920 这是伟大的战略 the jobs for the world grace strategy 206 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:34,270 and second is that the American 207 00:04:34,270 --> 00:04:37,310 第二，美国的国际公司通过全球化赚了数以百万计美元 and second is that the American 208 00:04:37,310 --> 00:04:39,710 第二，美国的国际公司通过全球化赚了数以百万计美元 international companies made millions 209 00:04:39,710 --> 00:04:41,920 第二，美国的国际公司通过全球化赚了数以百万计美元 millions of dollars from globalization 210 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:42,080 美国100强企业令人惊叹 millions of dollars from globalization 211 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,790 美国100强企业令人惊叹 the top 10 top 100 companies in America 212 00:04:45,790 --> 00:04:45,950 美国100强企业令人惊叹 amazing I remember when I graduate from 213 00:04:45,950 --> 00:04:46,350 amazing I remember when I graduate from 214 00:04:46,350 --> 00:04:49,010 我刚刚大学毕业 amazing I remember when I graduate from 215 00:04:49,010 --> 00:04:50,120 我刚刚大学毕业 university I try to buy a beeper the 216 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:50,420 university I try to buy a beeper the 217 00:04:50,420 --> 00:04:51,740 当时想买摩托罗拉手机 university I try to buy a beeper the 218 00:04:51,740 --> 00:04:52,750 当时想买摩托罗拉手机 Motorola beeper cost me $250 my pay at 219 00:04:52,750 --> 00:04:57,950 售价是250美元，我的工资只有每月10美元，作为一个老师 Motorola beeper cost me $250 my pay at 220 00:04:57,950 --> 00:04:59,990 售价是250美元，我的工资只有每月10美元，作为一个老师 that time ten dollars a month as a 221 00:04:59,990 --> 00:05:00,320 售价是250美元，我的工资只有每月10美元，作为一个老师 teacher and cost of making that 222 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:00,720 teacher and cost of making that 223 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,710 而制造BB机的成本只有8美元 teacher and cost of making that 224 00:05:03,710 --> 00:05:06,170 而制造BB机的成本只有8美元 beeper is only eight dollars for a chip 225 00:05:06,170 --> 00:05:06,670 而制造BB机的成本只有8美元 so past thirty years IBM Cisco 226 00:05:06,670 --> 00:05:08,250 so past thirty years IBM Cisco 227 00:05:08,250 --> 00:05:11,690 过去30年，微软、思科、IBM赚的钱数以千万计 so past thirty years IBM Cisco 228 00:05:11,690 --> 00:05:14,520 过去30年，微软、思科、IBM赚的钱数以千万计 Microsoft they make a tens of money the 229 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:14,690 比中国四大行赚的钱加起来都多 Microsoft they make a tens of money the 230 00:05:14,690 --> 00:05:17,510 比中国四大行赚的钱加起来都多 money the profited made a much more than 231 00:05:17,510 --> 00:05:19,880 比中国四大行赚的钱加起来都多 the four largest banks in China put 232 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:19,970 比中国四大行赚的钱加起来都多 together the China mobile phone 233 00:05:19,970 --> 00:05:20,220 together the China mobile phone 234 00:05:20,220 --> 00:05:21,830 比中国移动、中国联通等等加起来都多 together the China mobile phone 235 00:05:21,830 --> 00:05:23,780 比中国移动、中国联通等等加起来都多 China Unicom or whatever you name it 236 00:05:23,780 --> 00:05:26,120 比中国移动、中国联通等等加起来都多 put together still these multinational 237 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,870 比中国移动、中国联通等等加起来都多 companies made more money so the 238 00:05:27,870 --> 00:05:28,300 companies made more money so the 239 00:05:28,300 --> 00:05:29,090 他们的市值在过去30年增长了100% companies made more money so the 240 00:05:29,090 --> 00:05:31,250 他们的市值在过去30年增长了100% market cap grow more than 100 times in 241 00:05:31,250 --> 00:05:32,150 他们的市值在过去30年增长了100% past 30 years but where the money go 242 00:05:32,150 --> 00:05:32,470 past 30 years but where the money go 243 00:05:32,470 --> 00:05:33,820 那么赚来的钱去了哪里？ past 30 years but where the money go 244 00:05:33,820 --> 00:05:33,830 作为商人我很关心资产负债表 past 30 years but where the money go 245 00:05:33,830 --> 00:05:35,990 作为商人我很关心资产负债表 this is what I would cares because as 246 00:05:35,990 --> 00:05:36,850 作为商人我很关心资产负债表 business people I always care about the 247 00:05:36,850 --> 00:05:37,100 business people I always care about the 248 00:05:37,100 --> 00:05:38,390 关心钱由何而来、去往何处 business people I always care about the 249 00:05:38,390 --> 00:05:39,590 关心钱由何而来、去往何处 balance sheet where is the money 250 00:05:39,590 --> 00:05:40,750 关心钱由何而来、去往何处 coming where the money go past 30 years 251 00:05:40,750 --> 00:05:41,300 coming where the money go past 30 years 252 00:05:41,300 --> 00:05:42,800 过去30年，美国在13场战争中花费了14.2万亿美元 coming where the money go past 30 years 253 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,310 过去30年，美国在13场战争中花费了14.2万亿美元 the American had 13 wars spending 254 00:05:46,310 --> 00:05:48,520 过去30年，美国在13场战争中花费了14.2万亿美元 fourteen point two trillion dollars the 255 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:49,170 fourteen point two trillion dollars the 256 00:05:49,170 --> 00:05:49,940 如果这些资金有一部分 fourteen point two trillion dollars the 257 00:05:49,940 --> 00:05:52,070 如果这些资金有一部分 money going there what if they spent a 258 00:05:52,070 --> 00:05:53,020 如果这些资金有一部分 part of their money on building up the 259 00:05:53,020 --> 00:05:53,070 part of their money on building up the 260 00:05:53,070 --> 00:05:54,470 用于投资基建、帮助白领和蓝领呢? part of their money on building up the 261 00:05:54,470 --> 00:05:57,170 用于投资基建、帮助白领和蓝领呢? infrastructure helping the divided colors 262 00:05:57,170 --> 00:05:59,420 用于投资基建、帮助白领和蓝领呢? the divided colors and blue colors no 263 00:05:59,420 --> 00:05:59,800 the divided colors and blue colors no 264 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:00,620 无论你们的战略有多好 the divided colors and blue colors no 265 00:06:00,620 --> 00:06:02,420 无论你们的战略有多好 matter how strategy good it is you're 266 00:06:02,420 --> 00:06:02,600 matter how strategy good it is you're 267 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:03,050 你们应该为民众而投资 matter how strategy good it is you're 268 00:06:03,050 --> 00:06:04,880 你们应该为民众而投资 supposed to spend money on your own 269 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:05,620 你们应该为民众而投资 people right not everybody can pass 270 00:06:05,620 --> 00:06:05,950 people right not everybody can pass 271 00:06:05,950 --> 00:06:08,720 不是每个人都有机会上哈佛大学 people right not everybody can pass 272 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:09,570 不是每个人都有机会上哈佛大学 Harvard like me we balabala 273 00:06:09,570 --> 00:06:09,920 Harvard like me we balabala 274 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,260 像我就不行 Harvard like me we balabala 275 00:06:12,260 --> 00:06:13,600 像我就不行 education right we should spend 276 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:14,100 education right we should spend 277 00:06:14,100 --> 00:06:14,960 我们应该为那些无力上学的人们投入资金 education right we should spend 278 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,640 我们应该为那些无力上学的人们投入资金 money on those people who are not good 279 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:17,150 我们应该为那些无力上学的人们投入资金 at schooling and the other money which I 280 00:06:17,150 --> 00:06:17,570 at schooling and the other money which I 281 00:06:17,570 --> 00:06:19,190 另外令我好奇的是 at schooling and the other money which I 282 00:06:19,190 --> 00:06:20,420 另外令我好奇的是 curious about is that when I was young I 283 00:06:20,420 --> 00:06:22,500 curious about is that when I was young I 284 00:06:22,500 --> 00:06:24,050 我年轻时听说美国有福特、波音等大型制造企业 curious about is that when I was young I 285 00:06:24,050 --> 00:06:27,530 我年轻时听说美国有福特、波音等大型制造企业 heard America's better ford ford and 286 00:06:27,530 --> 00:06:29,800 我年轻时听说美国有福特、波音等大型制造企业 Boeing those big manufactured companies 287 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:29,900 而过去20年听到的都是硅谷和华尔街 Boeing those big manufactured companies 288 00:06:29,900 --> 00:06:32,000 而过去20年听到的都是硅谷和华尔街 last 10 20 years I heard about is 289 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,450 而过去20年听到的都是硅谷和华尔街 Silicon Valley and Wall Street the money 290 00:06:34,450 --> 00:06:34,500 Silicon Valley and Wall Street the money 291 00:06:34,500 --> 00:06:35,240 资金流向了华尔街 Silicon Valley and Wall Street the money 292 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:36,020 资金流向了华尔街 go to the Wall Street 293 00:06:36,020 --> 00:06:36,950 go to the Wall Street 294 00:06:36,950 --> 00:06:37,400 然后，2008年金融危机发生了 go to the Wall Street 295 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,600 然后，2008年金融危机发生了 what happened year 2008 the financial 296 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:40,400 what happened year 2008 the financial 297 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:41,450 损失了19.2万亿美金 what happened year 2008 the financial 298 00:06:41,450 --> 00:06:44,150 损失了19.2万亿美金 crisis wipe it out nineteen point two 299 00:06:44,150 --> 00:06:46,270 损失了19.2万亿美金 trillion dollars US alone 300 00:06:46,270 --> 00:06:46,620 trillion dollars US alone 301 00:06:46,620 --> 00:06:47,150 这是一笔巨资，洗劫了白领，毁灭了全球3400万工作 trillion dollars US alone 302 00:06:47,150 --> 00:06:49,550 这是一笔巨资，洗劫了白领，毁灭了全球3400万工作 they raped all the white colors and 303 00:06:49,550 --> 00:06:52,010 这是一笔巨资，洗劫了白领，毁灭了全球3400万工作 destroyed thirty four million jobs 304 00:06:52,010 --> 00:06:53,150 这是一笔巨资，洗劫了白领，毁灭了全球3400万工作 globally so what if the money not wall 305 00:06:53,150 --> 00:06:53,400 globally so what if the money not wall 306 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,000 如果这些钱不是流向华尔街 globally so what if the money not wall 307 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,150 如果这些钱不是流向华尔街 street what if the money spent on a 308 00:06:57,150 --> 00:06:57,300 street what if the money spent on a 309 00:06:57,300 --> 00:06:57,950 而是投资了中西部、开发那里的产业 street what if the money spent on a 310 00:06:57,950 --> 00:07:01,010 而是投资了中西部、开发那里的产业 Middle East Middle West of the United 311 00:07:01,010 --> 00:07:03,420 而是投资了中西部、开发那里的产业 States developing the industry there 312 00:07:03,420 --> 00:07:03,550 that could be changed a lot so it's not 313 00:07:03,550 --> 00:07:05,550 那会带来很大的改变 that could be changed a lot so it's not 314 00:07:05,550 --> 00:07:06,260 不是其他国家投了你们的就业机会 that could be changed a lot so it's not 315 00:07:06,260 --> 00:07:09,560 不是其他国家投了你们的就业机会 the other countries steal jobs from you 316 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:10,050 不是其他国家投了你们的就业机会 guys it is your strategy okay but you do 317 00:07:10,050 --> 00:07:11,620 这是你们的战略 guys it is your strategy okay but you do 318 00:07:11,620 --> 00:07:11,800 guys it is your strategy okay but you do 319 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:12,860 是你们没有合理思考、分配资金 guys it is your strategy okay but you do 320 00:07:12,860 --> 00:07:15,500 是你们没有合理思考、分配资金 not distribute the money that the money 321 00:07:15,500 --> 00:07:16,770 是你们没有合理思考、分配资金 and things in a proper way this is what 322 00:07:16,770 --> 00:07:17,750 这是我的看法 and things in a proper way this is what 323 00:07:17,750 --> 00:07:18,470 这是我的看法 I and now we are having a backlash and 324 00:07:18,470 --> 00:07:20,610 索尔金：现在我们看到了关于重构全球化的强烈抵制 I and now we are having a backlash and 325 00:07:20,610 --> 00:07:23,360 索尔金：现在我们看到了关于重构全球化的强烈抵制 that backlash is a rebuke of 326 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:23,520 索尔金：现在我们看到了关于重构全球化的强烈抵制 globalization and so much of the 327 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:24,920 实际上在达沃斯的多数讨论都是围绕这一话题 globalization and so much of the 328 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:26,960 实际上在达沃斯的多数讨论都是围绕这一话题 conversation frankly that we have here 329 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:27,020 实际上在达沃斯的多数讨论都是围绕这一话题 and that backlash is happening in the 330 00:07:27,020 --> 00:07:27,550 and that backlash is happening in the 331 00:07:27,550 --> 00:07:29,420 抵制发生于美国 and that backlash is happening in the 332 00:07:29,420 --> 00:07:30,400 抵制发生于美国 United States but I will say President 333 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:31,010 但是习近平主席昨天来到了达沃斯 United States but I will say President 334 00:07:31,010 --> 00:07:32,200 但是习近平主席昨天来到了达沃斯 Xi was here yesterday you had lunch with 335 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:32,750 你们共进了午餐 Xi was here yesterday you had lunch with 336 00:07:32,750 --> 00:07:33,570 你们共进了午餐 him and he was quoting Abraham Lincoln 337 00:07:33,570 --> 00:07:35,830 他应用了林肯的话，你怎么看？ him and he was quoting Abraham Lincoln 338 00:07:35,830 --> 00:07:38,200 他应用了林肯的话，你怎么看？ what did you make of that well I would 339 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:39,100 what did you make of that well I would 340 00:07:39,100 --> 00:07:40,670 马云：全球化是很好的东西 what did you make of that well I would 341 00:07:40,670 --> 00:07:45,720 马云：全球化是很好的东西 say that globalization is a great stuff 342 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:46,450 say that globalization is a great stuff 343 00:07:46,450 --> 00:07:46,490 美国是教育我们如何进行全球化的发达国家 say that globalization is a great stuff 344 00:07:46,490 --> 00:07:50,000 美国是教育我们如何进行全球化的发达国家 it's the US developed countries to teach 345 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,800 美国是教育我们如何进行全球化的发达国家 us how to do globalization I remember 346 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:52,250 us how to do globalization I remember 347 00:07:52,250 --> 00:07:52,310 记得2001年前后我们加入WTO时 us how to do globalization I remember 348 00:07:52,310 --> 00:07:54,480 记得2001年前后我们加入WTO时 2002 or one people trying to join 349 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,950 记得2001年前后我们加入WTO时 the WTO everybody in China was worried 350 00:07:56,950 --> 00:07:57,140 the WTO everybody in China was worried 351 00:07:57,140 --> 00:07:57,520 me I was worried because what if all the 352 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,750 我们都很担心--如果国际品牌和产业都来到中国 me I was worried because what if all the 353 00:07:59,750 --> 00:08:01,550 我们都很担心--如果国际品牌和产业都来到中国 international products come to China 354 00:08:01,550 --> 00:08:01,800 毁灭我们的产业，让我们失去工作 international products come to China 355 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,650 毁灭我们的产业，让我们失去工作 destroy our industry and we have lose a 356 00:08:03,650 --> 00:08:04,150 毁灭我们的产业，让我们失去工作 job so convince the China after 357 00:08:04,150 --> 00:08:05,570 job so convince the China after 358 00:08:05,570 --> 00:08:07,700 当时说服了我们 job so convince the China after 359 00:08:07,700 --> 00:08:08,060 20年之后你们却说全球化是可怕的事 job so convince the China after 360 00:08:08,060 --> 00:08:10,860 20年之后你们却说全球化是可怕的事 twenty years then you guys tell and say 361 00:08:10,860 --> 00:08:12,850 20年之后你们却说全球化是可怕的事 this is a terrible thing I believe 362 00:08:12,850 --> 00:08:13,770 this is a terrible thing I believe 363 00:08:13,770 --> 00:08:14,930 我认为全球化是好的，但全球化需要优化 this is a terrible thing I believe 364 00:08:14,930 --> 00:08:17,480 我认为全球化是好的，但全球化需要优化 globalization is good but globalization 365 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,000 我认为全球化是好的，但全球化需要优化 needs to be improved 366 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:19,150 needs to be improved 367 00:08:19,150 --> 00:08:19,500 this is Donald Trump presently liked 368 00:08:19,500 --> 00:08:22,130 这是总统特朗普希望解决的问题 this is Donald Trump presently liked 369 00:08:22,130 --> 00:08:23,700 这是总统特朗普希望解决的问题 want to solve it the problems that 370 00:08:23,700 --> 00:08:23,970 want to solve it the problems that 371 00:08:23,970 --> 00:08:24,450 我认为全球化应该是普惠的全球化 want to solve it the problems that 372 00:08:24,450 --> 00:08:26,560 我认为全球化应该是普惠的全球化 globalization I think should be 373 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,450 我认为全球化应该是普惠的全球化 inclusive globalization in the past 374 00:08:28,450 --> 00:08:28,700 inclusive globalization in the past 375 00:08:28,700 --> 00:08:30,020 过去30年，全球化由6万家大企业控制 inclusive globalization in the past 376 00:08:30,020 --> 00:08:30,750 过去30年，全球化由6万家大企业控制 thirty years 377 00:08:30,750 --> 00:08:33,200 过去30年，全球化由6万家大企业控制 the globalization was controlled by 378 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,970 过去30年，全球化由6万家大企业控制 sixty thousand big companies a hundred 379 00:08:34,970 --> 00:08:35,200 sixty thousand big companies a hundred 380 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:36,240 100年之前，是由几位国王控制 sixty thousand big companies a hundred 381 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,120 100年之前，是由几位国王控制 years ago globalization was controlled 382 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,370 100年之前，是由几位国王控制 by several kings and Empress what if 383 00:08:41,370 --> 00:08:41,800 by several kings and Empress what if 384 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:42,620 如果未来30年我们能够支持600万家企业跨境运营 by several kings and Empress what if 385 00:08:42,620 --> 00:08:45,680 如果未来30年我们能够支持600万家企业跨境运营 next for thirty years we can support six 386 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:48,320 如果未来30年我们能够支持600万家企业跨境运营 million business doing this Cross-border 387 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:48,500 million business doing this Cross-border 388 00:08:48,500 --> 00:08:48,670 what if in next thirty years we can 389 00:08:48,670 --> 00:08:50,970 如果未来30年我们能够支持2000万家中小企业跨境运营呢 what if in next thirty years we can 390 00:08:50,970 --> 00:08:53,670 如果未来30年我们能够支持2000万家中小企业跨境运营呢 help support 20 million small business 391 00:08:53,670 --> 00:08:55,750 如果未来30年我们能够支持2000万家中小企业跨境运营呢 can do business across the board so this 392 00:08:55,750 --> 00:08:56,370 我们相信全球化应该是普惠的 can do business across the board so this 393 00:08:56,370 --> 00:08:58,430 我们相信全球化应该是普惠的 is something which I believe 394 00:08:58,430 --> 00:09:00,600 我们相信全球化应该是普惠的 globalization should be inclusive and do 395 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:00,870 globalization should be inclusive and do 396 00:09:00,870 --> 00:09:01,500 索尔金：你认为习近平主席提到的事情会发生吗？ globalization should be inclusive and do 397 00:09:01,500 --> 00:09:04,180 索尔金：你认为习近平主席提到的事情会发生吗？ you think that the words President Xi 398 00:09:04,180 --> 00:09:06,600 索尔金：你认为习近平主席提到的事情会发生吗？ will happen in reality which is to say 399 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:06,930 will happen in reality which is to say 400 00:09:06,930 --> 00:09:07,400 yeah that China has largely acted on its 401 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,640 中国代表了东方很多年 yeah that China has largely acted on its 402 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,800 中国代表了东方很多年 own behalf for many many years and now 403 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:13,200 own behalf for many many years and now 404 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,180 现在如果说美国继续代表所有人而行动? own behalf for many many years and now 405 00:09:14,180 --> 00:09:17,120 现在如果说美国继续代表所有人而行动? is effectively we saying that the US needs 406 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:18,930 现在如果说美国继续代表所有人而行动? to continue acting on to everybody 407 00:09:18,930 --> 00:09:20,000 现在如果说美国继续代表所有人而行动? else's behalf yeah I think you know the 408 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:20,950 else's behalf yeah I think you know the 409 00:09:20,950 --> 00:09:23,000 马云：习主席昨天提到，这是最好的时代 else's behalf yeah I think you know the 410 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:28,190 马云：习主席昨天提到，这是最好的时代 world need some as being it is such a mr. 411 00:09:28,190 --> 00:09:30,120 马云：习主席昨天提到，这是最好的时代 Xi yesterday said it's a wonderful time 412 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:30,300 马云：习主席昨天提到，这是最好的时代 it's the best time or the worst time the 413 00:09:30,300 --> 00:09:31,800 也是最坏的时代 it's the best time or the worst time the 414 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:32,420 it's the best time or the worst time the 415 00:09:32,420 --> 00:09:32,610 世界需要新的领袖，但新的领袖意味着携手共进 it's the best time or the worst time the 416 00:09:32,610 --> 00:09:34,620 世界需要新的领袖，但新的领袖意味着携手共进 world need a new leadership but the new 417 00:09:34,620 --> 00:09:35,520 世界需要新的领袖，但新的领袖意味着携手共进 leadership is about working together 418 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:35,850 leadership is about working together 419 00:09:35,850 --> 00:09:36,300 这是我的理解 leadership is about working together 420 00:09:36,300 --> 00:09:37,600 这是我的理解 this is what I understand we do not 421 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:38,690 新的领袖并不需要是特定的某一个 this is what I understand we do not 422 00:09:38,690 --> 00:09:41,320 新的领袖并不需要是特定的某一个 necessarily need one specific leader to 423 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:41,730 来教导大家什么可以做、什么不能做 necessarily need one specific leader to 424 00:09:41,730 --> 00:09:43,720 来教导大家什么可以做、什么不能做 teach us what to do what not to do but 425 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:43,880 但全世界需要团结在一起 teach us what to do what not to do but 426 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,070 但全世界需要团结在一起 the world had to partner together this 427 00:09:46,070 --> 00:09:46,560 the world had to partner together this 428 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:47,300 is what I think and I think I like as 429 00:09:47,300 --> 00:09:48,780 作为一个中国的商人 is what I think and I think I like as 430 00:09:48,780 --> 00:09:50,600 作为一个中国的商人 a Chinese as a business people I like 431 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:50,720 a Chinese as a business people I like 432 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:51,540 我很喜欢也很自豪习主席昨天提到的一个--作为一个商人 a Chinese as a business people I like 433 00:09:51,540 --> 00:09:54,720 我很喜欢也很自豪习主席昨天提到的一个--作为一个商人 I feel proud for what President Xi said 434 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,520 我很喜欢也很自豪习主席昨天提到的一个--作为一个商人 yesterday as a business person I want 435 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:57,270 yesterday as a business person I want 436 00:09:57,270 --> 00:09:58,190 我希望全世界能够共同负担起责任、携手合作 yesterday as a business person I want 437 00:09:58,190 --> 00:10:00,780 我希望全世界能够共同负担起责任、携手合作 the world to share the prosperity 438 00:10:00,780 --> 00:10:02,900 我希望全世界能够共同负担起责任、携手合作 together to join the post together as a 439 00:10:02,900 --> 00:10:04,070 作为一个中国人 together to join the post together as a 440 00:10:04,070 --> 00:10:04,820 作为一个中国人 Chinese I'm happy about what he 441 00:10:04,820 --> 00:10:05,070 Chinese I'm happy about what he 442 00:10:05,070 --> 00:10:06,440 我也对他所做出的承诺感到高兴 Chinese I'm happy about what he 443 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:07,700 我也对他所做出的承诺感到高兴 committed yesterday he said you know he 444 00:10:07,700 --> 00:10:08,120 committed yesterday he said you know he 445 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,230 昨天他提及中国作为世界第二大经济体应该担负起责任 committed yesterday he said you know he 446 00:10:10,230 --> 00:10:12,990 昨天他提及中国作为世界第二大经济体应该担负起责任 speaks like us take the responsibility 447 00:10:12,990 --> 00:10:15,600 昨天他提及中国作为世界第二大经济体应该担负起责任 of the second largest economy as the 448 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,610 昨天他提及中国作为世界第二大经济体应该担负起责任 China's second largest economy he has to 449 00:10:17,610 --> 00:10:18,520 昨天他提及中国作为世界第二大经济体应该担负起责任 take some responsibility this is the 450 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:18,850 take some responsibility this is the 451 00:10:18,850 --> 00:10:19,530 这是我第一次听到中国领导人做出量化承诺 take some responsibility this is the 452 00:10:19,530 --> 00:10:23,100 这是我第一次听到中国领导人做出量化承诺 first time I heard a Chinese leader make 453 00:10:23,100 --> 00:10:24,850 这是我第一次听到中国领导人做出量化承诺 number commitment he said next 10 years 454 00:10:24,850 --> 00:10:24,950 number commitment he said next 10 years 455 00:10:24,950 --> 00:10:27,120 他说未来10年我们的进口将达到8万亿美元 number commitment he said next 10 years 456 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:31,300 他说未来10年我们的进口将达到8万亿美元 we are going to import eight trillion US dollars 457 00:10:31,300 --> 00:10:31,500 we are going to import eight trillion US dollars 458 00:10:31,500 --> 00:10:31,800 this make me feel 459 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,770 这让我感到兴奋 this make me feel 460 00:10:34,770 --> 00:10:35,120 this make me feel 461 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:35,250 excited because China is transforming 462 00:10:35,250 --> 00:10:37,920 因为中国正从出口向进口转型 excited because China is transforming 463 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,870 因为中国正从出口向进口转型 from exporting to importing if there's a 464 00:10:39,870 --> 00:10:39,920 from exporting to importing if there's a 465 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:40,820 如果能够达成一个具体的数据 from exporting to importing if there's a 466 00:10:40,820 --> 00:10:43,820 如果能够达成一个具体的数据 concrete number if we can fulfill it 467 00:10:43,820 --> 00:10:44,350 如果能够达成一个具体的数据 this going to be huge change to China 468 00:10:44,350 --> 00:10:48,140 这对中国和世界都将是巨大的转变 this going to be huge change to China 469 00:10:48,140 --> 00:10:48,850 这对中国和世界都将是巨大的转变 and to the world what I think it's easier 470 00:10:48,850 --> 00:10:48,970 and to the world what I think it's easier 471 00:10:48,970 --> 00:10:50,670 索尔金：今天中国对全球化相对会更有兴趣 and to the world what I think it's easier 472 00:10:50,670 --> 00:10:52,940 索尔金：今天中国对全球化相对会更有兴趣 today for China to be interested in 473 00:10:52,940 --> 00:10:53,820 索尔金：今天中国对全球化相对会更有兴趣 globalization because of the benefits 474 00:10:53,820 --> 00:10:54,100 globalization because of the benefits 475 00:10:54,100 --> 00:10:55,070 因为其带来的益处将继续支持中国朝着“发达国家”成长 globalization because of the benefits 476 00:10:55,070 --> 00:10:56,610 因为其带来的益处将继续支持中国朝着“发达国家”成长 that accrue that can accrue to China 477 00:10:56,610 --> 00:10:57,980 因为其带来的益处将继续支持中国朝着“发达国家”成长 because you're continuing to develop 478 00:10:57,980 --> 00:11:01,130 因为其带来的益处将继续支持中国朝着“发达国家”成长 than it is for countries that are quote 479 00:11:01,130 --> 00:11:02,400 因为其带来的益处将继续支持中国朝着“发达国家”成长 unquote developed 480 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:03,420 unquote developed 481 00:11:03,420 --> 00:11:03,740 马云：首先，WTO规则不是中国定的 unquote developed 482 00:11:03,740 --> 00:11:08,970 马云：首先，WTO规则不是中国定的 well first the WTO rule is not designed 483 00:11:08,970 --> 00:11:09,570 马云：首先，WTO规则不是中国定的 by China it's not made by China I will 484 00:11:09,570 --> 00:11:09,870 by China it's not made by China I will 485 00:11:09,870 --> 00:11:11,760 也不是为中国制定的 by China it's not made by China I will 486 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:12,500 也不是为中国制定的 say there's something that I want to 487 00:11:12,500 --> 00:11:12,770 say there's something that I want to 488 00:11:12,770 --> 00:11:13,500 我想改变的是，过去WTO是为大企业而设计的 say there's something that I want to 489 00:11:13,500 --> 00:11:16,380 我想改变的是，过去WTO是为大企业而设计的 change the WTO is designed a lot 490 00:11:16,380 --> 00:11:17,850 我想改变的是，过去WTO是为大企业而设计的 rules designed for big companies in 491 00:11:17,850 --> 00:11:18,220 我想改变的是，过去WTO是为大企业而设计的 past years and only big 492 00:11:18,220 --> 00:11:18,520 past years and only big 493 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:19,410 只有大企业能参与 past years and only big 494 00:11:19,410 --> 00:11:20,500 只有大企业能参与 companies can do it and China definitely 495 00:11:20,500 --> 00:11:20,700 companies can do it and China definitely 496 00:11:20,700 --> 00:11:23,040 中国也从开放中受益良多 companies can do it and China definitely 497 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,000 中国也从开放中受益良多 benefit a lot from opening I think China 498 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:25,170 benefit a lot from opening I think China 499 00:11:25,170 --> 00:11:26,100 我认为中国应该学会一件事--过去中国能够增长 benefit a lot from opening I think China 500 00:11:26,100 --> 00:11:28,350 我认为中国应该学会一件事--过去中国能够增长 should learn one thing that we grow in 501 00:11:28,350 --> 00:11:29,520 我认为中国应该学会一件事--过去中国能够增长 the past 30 years it's because we open 502 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:30,100 the past 30 years it's because we open 503 00:11:30,100 --> 00:11:31,740 是因为我们面向世界开放 the past 30 years it's because we open 504 00:11:31,740 --> 00:11:32,170 是因为我们面向世界开放 to the world it will continue to open 505 00:11:32,170 --> 00:11:32,520 to the world it will continue to open 506 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:33,860 如果我们能够继续开放 to the world it will continue to open 507 00:11:33,860 --> 00:11:33,960 如果我们能够继续开放 not fully not fully American business 508 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:34,020 如果我们能够继续开放 not fully not fully American business 509 00:11:34,020 --> 00:11:36,420 不是完全开放，但不是完全开放 not fully not fully American business 510 00:11:36,420 --> 00:11:36,670 not fully not fully American business 511 00:11:36,670 --> 00:11:37,250 比如美国企业要进入中国就需要和当地企业合作 not fully not fully American business 512 00:11:37,250 --> 00:11:37,350 比如美国企业要进入中国就需要和当地企业合作 513 00:11:37,350 --> 00:11:39,630 比如美国企业要进入中国就需要和当地企业合作 that wants to affect we go into business 514 00:11:39,630 --> 00:11:41,130 比如美国企业要进入中国就需要和当地企业合作 in China has a very difficult time has 515 00:11:41,130 --> 00:11:43,020 比如美国企业要进入中国就需要和当地企业合作 to partner effectively with a company 516 00:11:43,020 --> 00:11:43,600 比如美国企业要进入中国就需要和当地企业合作 that's there already this is why I said 517 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:43,850 that's there already this is why I said 518 00:11:43,850 --> 00:11:44,910 这就是为什么我说中国也存在它的问题 that's there already this is why I said 519 00:11:44,910 --> 00:11:46,400 这就是为什么我说中国也存在它的问题 China has the problems too the world has 520 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:46,860 这个世界存在着问题，中国当然也有很多自己的问题 China has the problems too the world has 521 00:11:46,860 --> 00:11:49,170 这个世界存在着问题，中国当然也有很多自己的问题 problem and China has definitely a lot 522 00:11:49,170 --> 00:11:49,700 这个世界存在着问题，中国当然也有很多自己的问题 of problems China should open we should 523 00:11:49,700 --> 00:11:50,670 中国应该开放，应该自信 of problems China should open we should 524 00:11:50,670 --> 00:11:51,170 中国应该开放，应该自信 have been more confidence this is what I 525 00:11:51,170 --> 00:11:51,500 have been more confidence this is what I 526 00:11:51,500 --> 00:11:52,410 昨天习主席的话让我很有信心 have been more confidence this is what I 527 00:11:52,410 --> 00:11:54,540 昨天习主席的话让我很有信心 feel yesterday I feel the confidence of 528 00:11:54,540 --> 00:11:56,470 昨天习主席的话让我很有信心 mr. XI that he is ready to open more 529 00:11:56,470 --> 00:11:58,890 他已经准备好让中国面向世界进一步开放 mr. XI that he is ready to open more 530 00:11:58,890 --> 00:11:59,950 他已经准备好让中国面向世界进一步开放 to the world this is what I 531 00:11:59,950 --> 00:12:01,500 这是我的建议 to the world this is what I 532 00:12:01,500 --> 00:12:02,420 这是我的建议 suggest that we should solve the problem 533 00:12:02,420 --> 00:12:02,500 suggest that we should solve the problem 534 00:12:02,500 --> 00:12:05,330 我们应该通过商业团体、通过谈判来解决问题 suggest that we should solve the problem 535 00:12:05,330 --> 00:12:08,800 我们应该通过商业团体、通过谈判来解决问题 by business community by negotiation 536 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:09,500 by business community by negotiation 537 00:12:09,500 --> 00:12:09,560 中国已经加入WTO十几年 by business community by negotiation 538 00:12:09,560 --> 00:12:13,560 中国已经加入WTO十几年 WTO China join WTO for twenty years 539 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:15,810 中国已经加入WTO十几年 or 17 years I do not remeber 540 00:12:15,810 --> 00:12:16,150 中国已经加入WTO十几年 but the past years that I think 541 00:12:16,150 --> 00:12:16,300 but the past years that I think 542 00:12:16,300 --> 00:12:20,430 我想无论作为企业、作为国家、还是整个世界 but the past years that I think 543 00:12:20,430 --> 00:12:23,820 我想无论作为企业、作为国家、还是整个世界 we as a business we as a country we as 544 00:12:23,820 --> 00:12:23,970 我想无论作为企业、作为国家、还是整个世界 the world we have to review something 545 00:12:23,970 --> 00:12:24,170 the world we have to review something 546 00:12:24,170 --> 00:12:25,590 都需要重新进行审视 the world we have to review something 547 00:12:25,590 --> 00:12:26,100 都需要重新进行审视 right but not because imbalance the 548 00:12:26,100 --> 00:12:26,170 right but not because imbalance the 549 00:12:26,170 --> 00:12:28,710 不仅仅是因为不平衡的事物--我们可以喊停 right but not because imbalance the 550 00:12:28,710 --> 00:12:30,200 不仅仅是因为不平衡的事物--我们可以喊停 things we stopped it 551 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:30,410 things we stopped it 552 00:12:30,410 --> 00:12:30,720 you've been calling for something called 553 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,540 索尔金：你提出的EWPT，具体是什么 you've been calling for something called 554 00:12:32,540 --> 00:12:35,270 索尔金：你提出的EWPT，具体是什么 EWTP yeah what is that this is what I 555 00:12:35,270 --> 00:12:35,800 EWTP yeah what is that this is what I 556 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:36,900 马云 :WTO很伟大 EWTP yeah what is that this is what I 557 00:12:36,900 --> 00:12:39,570 马云 :WTO很伟大 would talk about is that the WTO was 558 00:12:39,570 --> 00:12:39,820 马云 :WTO很伟大 great but they mainly designed for 559 00:12:39,820 --> 00:12:41,760 但它主要是为发达国家及其企业所设计的 great but they mainly designed for 560 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,200 但它主要是为发达国家及其企业所设计的 developed countries big companies 561 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:44,210 developed countries big companies 562 00:12:44,210 --> 00:12:44,620 there's no opportunity for small 563 00:12:44,620 --> 00:12:47,280 对中小企业而言没有机会 there's no opportunity for small 564 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:47,750 对中小企业而言没有机会 business we want to build up Electronic 565 00:12:47,750 --> 00:12:47,970 business we want to build up Electronic 566 00:12:47,970 --> 00:12:49,850 我们希望建立EWTP business we want to build up Electronic 567 00:12:49,850 --> 00:12:50,070 business we want to build up Electronic 568 00:12:50,070 --> 00:12:51,060 Electronic World Trade Platform business we want to build up Electronic 569 00:12:51,060 --> 00:12:53,670 Electronic World Trade Platform world trade platform to 570 00:12:53,670 --> 00:12:53,770 world trade platform to 571 00:12:53,770 --> 00:12:53,790 来支持年轻人和小企业 world trade platform to 572 00:12:53,790 --> 00:12:56,340 来支持年轻人和小企业 support young people small business 573 00:12:56,340 --> 00:12:56,870 来支持年轻人和小企业 thinks through mobile phones internet 574 00:12:56,870 --> 00:12:59,010 他们可以通过手机和互联网在网上进行跨境买卖 thinks through mobile phones internet 575 00:12:59,010 --> 00:13:01,120 他们可以通过手机和互联网在网上进行跨境买卖 they can sell buy across the board and 576 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:01,370 they can sell buy across the board and 577 00:13:01,370 --> 00:13:01,920 此外，WTO也是一家非常有意思的机构 they can sell buy across the board and 578 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,840 此外，WTO也是一家非常有意思的机构 the other thing is that WTO 579 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,850 此外，WTO也是一家非常有意思的机构 is a very interesting organization 580 00:13:05,850 --> 00:13:06,000 此外，WTO也是一家非常有意思的机构 when you put the Doha round we put 200 581 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:06,020 when you put the Doha round we put 200 582 00:13:06,020 --> 00:13:08,970 它能够200国政府走到一起，就一件事达成共识 when you put the Doha round we put 200 583 00:13:08,970 --> 00:13:11,040 它能够200国政府走到一起，就一件事达成共识 government offices in a one room 584 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,650 它能够200国政府走到一起，就一件事达成共识 ask them to agree on something it's 585 00:13:13,650 --> 00:13:13,720 ask them to agree on something it's 586 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:14,240 这简直是不可能的 ask them to agree on something it's 587 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:14,970 这简直是不可能的 impossible I can never imagine that they 588 00:13:14,970 --> 00:13:15,300 impossible I can never imagine that they 589 00:13:15,300 --> 00:13:18,800 我无法想像各方能够达成共识 impossible I can never imagine that they 590 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,520 我无法想像各方能够达成共识 can agree on something together business 591 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:20,800 can agree on something together business 592 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:21,920 商业应该由商人决定 can agree on something together business 593 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:23,270 商业应该由商人决定 should be designed about business people 594 00:13:23,270 --> 00:13:23,320 should be designed about business people 595 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:23,380 我认为EWPT应该由商界人士们坐下来谈论、谈判，达成共识 should be designed about business people 596 00:13:23,380 --> 00:13:26,030 我认为EWPT应该由商界人士们坐下来谈论、谈判，达成共识 so we believe EWTP should be 597 00:13:26,030 --> 00:13:28,750 我认为EWPT应该由商界人士们坐下来谈论、谈判，达成共识 something that the business people sit 598 00:13:28,750 --> 00:13:31,100 我认为EWPT应该由商界人士们坐下来谈论、谈判，达成共识 down together agree on something 599 00:13:31,100 --> 00:13:33,170 我认为EWPT应该由商界人士们坐下来谈论、谈判，达成共识 negotiate on something and get 600 00:13:33,170 --> 00:13:34,550 我认为EWPT应该由商界人士们坐下来谈论、谈判，达成共识 endorsement from the government we 601 00:13:34,550 --> 00:13:34,570 endorsement from the government we 602 00:13:34,570 --> 00:13:35,110 索尔金：关于阿里巴巴，关于你们自身的商业模式 endorsement from the government we 603 00:13:35,110 --> 00:13:36,530 索尔金：关于阿里巴巴，关于你们自身的商业模式 talked a little bit about Alibaba and 604 00:13:36,530 --> 00:13:38,270 索尔金：关于阿里巴巴，关于你们自身的商业模式 the model itself because I think for 605 00:13:38,270 --> 00:13:38,680 我想大部分西方人可能不太理解 the model itself because I think for 606 00:13:38,680 --> 00:13:40,910 我想大部分西方人可能不太理解 many in the West if you will they don't 607 00:13:40,910 --> 00:13:42,700 我想大部分西方人可能不太理解 necessarily understand it and to the 608 00:13:42,700 --> 00:13:42,850 necessarily understand it and to the 609 00:13:42,850 --> 00:13:43,220 我能否尝试让你们与亚马逊做一下比较？ necessarily understand it and to the 610 00:13:43,220 --> 00:13:45,470 我能否尝试让你们与亚马逊做一下比较？ extent on that I 611 00:13:45,470 --> 00:13:47,200 我能否尝试让你们与亚马逊做一下比较？ could try to compare it to Amazon which 612 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:47,420 我能否尝试让你们与亚马逊做一下比较？ I know you think is an unfair comparison 613 00:13:47,420 --> 00:13:47,550 I know you think is an unfair comparison 614 00:13:47,550 --> 00:13:48,700 这样比较可能你们会觉得不太公平 I know you think is an unfair comparison 615 00:13:48,700 --> 00:13:48,850 这样比较可能你们会觉得不太公平 one of the things that's so fascinating 616 00:13:48,850 --> 00:13:49,000 one of the things that's so fascinating 617 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,860 不过令我感觉很有意思的一点是 one of the things that's so fascinating 618 00:13:50,860 --> 00:13:51,320 不过令我感觉很有意思的一点是 to me is that Amazon and Jeff Bezos have 619 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:51,500 to me is that Amazon and Jeff Bezos have 620 00:13:51,500 --> 00:13:53,540 亚马逊所追求的，我感觉比较像是重资产的商业模式 to me is that Amazon and Jeff Bezos have 621 00:13:53,540 --> 00:13:55,060 亚马逊所追求的，我感觉比较像是重资产的商业模式 pursued what might be described as a 622 00:13:55,060 --> 00:13:57,590 亚马逊所追求的，我感觉比较像是重资产的商业模式 very asset heavy business model they're 623 00:13:57,590 --> 00:13:57,770 亚马逊所追求的，我感觉比较像是重资产的商业模式 buying airplanes they want only entire 624 00:13:57,770 --> 00:13:57,900 buying airplanes they want only entire 625 00:13:57,900 --> 00:14:00,170 他们购买飞机，想拥有整个供应链 buying airplanes they want only entire 626 00:14:00,170 --> 00:14:01,920 他们购买飞机，想拥有整个供应链 supply chain from beginning to end and 627 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:02,200 而阿里巴巴就零售部分来看，相反地 supply chain from beginning to end and 628 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,970 而阿里巴巴就零售部分来看，相反地 Alibaba has effectively acted like this 629 00:14:04,970 --> 00:14:06,920 而阿里巴巴就零售部分来看，相反地 it is very much in terms of the retail 630 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:07,900 而阿里巴巴就零售部分来看，相反地 piece of this the opposite you don't 631 00:14:07,900 --> 00:14:09,170 你们并不像自营仓库、不想自营物流公司 piece of this the opposite you don't 632 00:14:09,170 --> 00:14:10,450 你们并不像自营仓库、不想自营物流公司 want to own the warehouses you don't 633 00:14:10,450 --> 00:14:12,170 你们并不像自营仓库、不想自营物流公司 want to own the logistics company how do 634 00:14:12,170 --> 00:14:12,500 want to own the logistics company how do 635 00:14:12,500 --> 00:14:13,390 对此你怎么看？ want to own the logistics company how do 636 00:14:13,390 --> 00:14:14,320 对此你怎么看？ you think about that is Jeff Bezos right 637 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:14,400 you think about that is Jeff Bezos right 638 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,160 杰弗里贝索斯（亚马逊创始人）正确 you think about that is Jeff Bezos right 639 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:16,550 杰弗里贝索斯（亚马逊创始人）正确 or you right and is there is there going 640 00:14:16,550 --> 00:14:18,130 还是你们正确‘ or you right and is there is there going 641 00:14:18,130 --> 00:14:18,200 还是你们正确‘ to be a meeting in the middle I hope 642 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,320 还是你们会在中建地带会合 to be a meeting in the middle I hope 643 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:20,770 to be a meeting in the middle I hope 644 00:14:20,770 --> 00:14:20,950 马云：我希望双方都正确 to be a meeting in the middle I hope 645 00:14:20,950 --> 00:14:22,820 马云：我希望双方都正确 both are right and because the world 646 00:14:22,820 --> 00:14:23,250 both are right and because the world 647 00:14:23,250 --> 00:14:24,980 因为世界不只是只有一种商业模式 both are right and because the world 648 00:14:24,980 --> 00:14:26,020 因为世界不只是只有一种商业模式 can never have one model if the world 649 00:14:26,020 --> 00:14:26,270 can never have one model if the world 650 00:14:26,270 --> 00:14:27,130 如果世界只有一种正确模式 can never have one model if the world 651 00:14:27,130 --> 00:14:28,650 如果世界只有一种正确模式 has only one correct model it was too 652 00:14:28,650 --> 00:14:29,480 这个世界将非常乏味 has only one correct model it was too 653 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:30,020 这个世界将非常乏味 boring right we need to have all kinds 654 00:14:30,020 --> 00:14:30,320 boring right we need to have all kinds 655 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,090 我们需要各种各样的模式 boring right we need to have all kinds 656 00:14:32,090 --> 00:14:32,950 我们需要各种各样的模式 of models and the people who do the 657 00:14:32,950 --> 00:14:33,170 of models and the people who do the 658 00:14:33,170 --> 00:14:34,750 为某种模式而努力的人们必须相信这种模式 of models and the people who do the 659 00:14:34,750 --> 00:14:36,270 为某种模式而努力的人们必须相信这种模式 model should believe in the model and I 660 00:14:36,270 --> 00:14:36,350 model should believe in the model and I 661 00:14:36,350 --> 00:14:36,940 我相信我所做的 model should believe in the model and I 662 00:14:36,940 --> 00:14:38,000 我相信我所做的 believe what I do right the difference 663 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,070 believe what I do right the difference 664 00:14:39,070 --> 00:14:40,280 至于亚马逊的不同 believe what I do right the difference 665 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:41,570 至于亚马逊的不同 between Amazon and us Amazon is more 666 00:14:41,570 --> 00:14:41,670 between Amazon and us Amazon is more 667 00:14:41,670 --> 00:14:42,860 亚马逊更像是一个帝国 between Amazon and us Amazon is more 668 00:14:42,860 --> 00:14:44,270 亚马逊更像是一个帝国 like an empire everything they should 669 00:14:44,270 --> 00:14:45,290 他们自己控制所有环节，从买到卖 like an empire everything they should 670 00:14:45,290 --> 00:14:47,600 他们自己控制所有环节，从买到卖 control themselves buy and sell and our 671 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:47,950 control themselves buy and sell and our 672 00:14:47,950 --> 00:14:48,590 我们的哲学则是希望打造生态系统 control themselves buy and sell and our 673 00:14:48,590 --> 00:14:50,440 我们的哲学则是希望打造生态系统 philosophy is that we want to be a 674 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:51,500 我们的哲学则是希望打造生态系统 ecosystem our philosophy is to empower 675 00:14:51,500 --> 00:14:51,670 ecosystem our philosophy is to empower 676 00:14:51,670 --> 00:14:53,840 我们的哲学是赋能其他人 ecosystem our philosophy is to empower 677 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:54,820 我们的哲学是赋能其他人 others to sell empower others to 678 00:14:54,820 --> 00:14:55,120 others to sell empower others to 679 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,390 协助他们去销售、去服务 others to sell empower others to 680 00:14:58,390 --> 00:14:58,720 协助他们去销售、去服务 service empower making sure the other 681 00:14:58,720 --> 00:14:58,900 service empower making sure the other 682 00:14:58,900 --> 00:15:01,100 确保他们能够比我们更有力量 service empower making sure the other 683 00:15:01,100 --> 00:15:02,700 确保他们能够比我们更有力量 people are more powerful than us making 684 00:15:02,700 --> 00:15:02,770 people are more powerful than us making 685 00:15:02,770 --> 00:15:03,550 确保我们的伙伴、10万个品牌 people are more powerful than us making 686 00:15:03,550 --> 00:15:05,920 确保我们的伙伴、10万个品牌 sure with our technology our innovation 687 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,800 确保我们的伙伴、10万个品牌 our partners our 10 millions small business 688 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:08,840 和中小企业能够因为我们的科技和创新 our partners our 10 millions small business 689 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,600 和中小企业能够因为我们的科技和创新 sellers they can compete with Microsoft 690 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,230 而拥有与微软、IBM竞争的了力量 sellers they can compete with Microsoft 691 00:15:12,230 --> 00:15:13,270 而拥有与微软、IBM竞争的了力量 IBM our philosophy is that we think 692 00:15:13,270 --> 00:15:15,470 我们相信通过互联网技术 IBM our philosophy is that we think 693 00:15:15,470 --> 00:15:17,320 我们相信通过互联网技术 using Internet technology we can make 694 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:18,010 我们能够让每一家企业成为亚马逊 using Internet technology we can make 695 00:15:18,010 --> 00:15:19,650 我们能够让每一家企业成为亚马逊 every company become amazon remember 696 00:15:19,650 --> 00:15:20,170 every company become amazon remember 697 00:15:20,170 --> 00:15:21,230 去年我们的GMV（商品交易额）超过5500亿美元 every company become amazon remember 698 00:15:21,230 --> 00:15:24,860 去年我们的GMV（商品交易额）超过5500亿美元 one thing today for ourselves our GMV last 699 00:15:24,860 --> 00:15:27,120 去年我们的GMV（商品交易额）超过5500亿美元 year is more than 550 700 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,520 去年我们的GMV（商品交易额）超过5500亿美元 billion US dollars too high people 701 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:29,750 billion US dollars too high people 702 00:15:29,750 --> 00:15:30,750 如果要雇佣员工来负责 billion US dollars too high people 703 00:15:30,750 --> 00:15:32,050 如果要雇佣员工来负责 deliver for us we need five million 704 00:15:32,050 --> 00:15:32,200 deliver for us we need five million 705 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:33,810 我们需要500万人 deliver for us we need five million 706 00:15:33,810 --> 00:15:34,300 我们需要500万人 people so how can we hide five-million 707 00:15:34,300 --> 00:15:34,570 people so how can we hide five-million 708 00:15:34,570 --> 00:15:37,490 我们不可能请500万人来运送我们平台上销售的商品 people so how can we hide five-million 709 00:15:37,490 --> 00:15:37,500 我们不可能请500万人来运送我们平台上销售的商品 people deliver things for us to deliver 710 00:15:37,500 --> 00:15:39,840 我们不可能请500万人来运送我们平台上销售的商品 people deliver things for us to deliver 711 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:40,920 我们不可能请500万人来运送我们平台上销售的商品 the things we thought the only way we do 712 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:41,120 the things we thought the only way we do 713 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:42,570 我们唯一能采取的方式就是赋能公司、物流公司 the things we thought the only way we do 714 00:15:42,570 --> 00:15:45,480 我们唯一能采取的方式就是赋能公司、物流公司 is empower the service company no just 715 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:45,770 我们唯一能采取的方式就是赋能公司、物流公司 companies making sure they are efficient 716 00:15:45,770 --> 00:15:45,920 companies making sure they are efficient 717 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,390 确保他们能够高效运作、能够盈利、能够雇佣更多人 companies making sure they are efficient 718 00:15:48,390 --> 00:15:51,180 确保他们能够高效运作、能够盈利、能够雇佣更多人 making sure that they make the money and 719 00:15:51,180 --> 00:15:53,040 确保他们能够高效运作、能够盈利、能够雇佣更多人 making sure that they can hire more 720 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:53,250 确保他们能够高效运作、能够盈利、能够雇佣更多人 people without owning the whole chain 721 00:15:53,250 --> 00:15:54,750 如果自己不拥有供应链，是都能保证高效 people without owning the whole chain 722 00:15:54,750 --> 00:15:57,090 如果自己不拥有供应链，是都能保证高效 can you do it as effectively the idea 723 00:15:57,090 --> 00:15:57,150 如果自己不拥有供应链，是都能保证高效 that you're having watching Amazon being 724 00:15:57,150 --> 00:15:57,450 that you're having watching Amazon being 725 00:15:57,450 --> 00:15:59,400 人家亚马逊现在已经能够在几个小时内送货到家 that you're having watching Amazon being 726 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,410 人家亚马逊现在已经能够在几个小时内送货到家 able to deliver things now within hours literally 727 00:16:01,410 --> 00:16:02,400 人家亚马逊现在已经能够在几个小时内送货到家 we made a hundred twenty five 728 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:02,700 we made a hundred twenty five 729 00:16:02,700 --> 00:16:06,390 马云：去年我们在中国的125个城市实现了当日达 we made a hundred twenty five 730 00:16:06,390 --> 00:16:09,770 马云：去年我们在中国的125个城市实现了当日达 cities deliver within one day last year 731 00:16:09,770 --> 00:16:09,930 cities deliver within one day last year 732 00:16:09,930 --> 00:16:10,170 imagine 10 years ago deliver one thing 733 00:16:10,170 --> 00:16:13,980 10年前从北京到杭州的邮寄就要8天 imagine 10 years ago deliver one thing 734 00:16:13,980 --> 00:16:15,840 10年前从北京到杭州的邮寄就要8天 from Beijing to Hangzhou takes by 735 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:16,370 10年前从北京到杭州的邮寄就要8天 the 80 days 736 00:16:16,370 --> 00:16:16,550 the 80 days 737 00:16:16,550 --> 00:16:16,740 现在你从北京送内蒙古只需要12个小时以内 the 80 days 738 00:16:16,740 --> 00:16:18,600 现在你从北京送内蒙古只需要12个小时以内 now you can deliver things from 739 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,210 现在你从北京送内蒙古只需要12个小时以内 from Beijing to in Mongolia some 740 00:16:21,210 --> 00:16:23,500 现在你从北京送内蒙古只需要12个小时以内 city within 12 hours it's improving you 741 00:16:23,500 --> 00:16:23,670 city within 12 hours it's improving you 742 00:16:23,670 --> 00:16:25,020 物流销量提升了 city within 12 hours it's improving you 743 00:16:25,020 --> 00:16:25,220 city within 12 hours it's improving you 744 00:16:25,220 --> 00:16:25,680 你不可能一天内期望达到这样的进步，我们有足够的耐心 city within 12 hours it's improving you 745 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,480 你不可能一天内期望达到这样的进步，我们有足够的耐心 can never expect these things happen 746 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,450 你不可能一天内期望达到这样的进步，我们有足够的耐心 within 24 hours we have patients so I 747 00:16:30,450 --> 00:16:31,170 within 24 hours we have patients so I 748 00:16:31,170 --> 00:16:31,800 think can you imagine that within 749 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,590 2016年双11我们品台上卖出了170亿美元的商品 think can you imagine that within 750 00:16:34,590 --> 00:16:38,640 2016年双11我们品台上卖出了170亿美元的商品 1111 singles day we sold 17 billion 751 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,170 2016年双11我们品台上卖出了170亿美元的商品 dollars and by 752 00:16:40,170 --> 00:16:40,370 dollars and by 753 00:16:40,370 --> 00:16:41,250 3天内我们就派送了总共6亿个包裹 dollars and by 754 00:16:41,250 --> 00:16:43,500 3天内我们就派送了总共6亿个包裹 delivering more than 600 million 755 00:16:43,500 --> 00:16:45,070 3天内我们就派送了总共6亿个包裹 packages within three days this is 756 00:16:45,070 --> 00:16:45,500 packages within three days this is 757 00:16:45,500 --> 00:16:46,050 这就是真该发生的，也是我们所骄傲的 packages within three days this is 758 00:16:46,050 --> 00:16:48,330 这就是真该发生的，也是我们所骄傲的 happening and this is what we feel proud 759 00:16:48,330 --> 00:16:48,500 这就是真该发生的，也是我们所骄傲的 of it's not how much money we make is 760 00:16:48,500 --> 00:16:48,670 of it's not how much money we make is 761 00:16:48,670 --> 00:16:50,730 不是我们挣了多少钱，而是我们具有多大的能量 of it's not how much money we make is 762 00:16:50,730 --> 00:16:53,050 不是我们挣了多少钱，而是我们具有多大的能量 not how powerful we are we think because 763 00:16:53,050 --> 00:16:53,120 not how powerful we are we think because 764 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,240 我们可以使科技变得更具有包容性 not how powerful we are we think because 765 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,120 我们可以使科技变得更具有包容性 of the technology we can make the 766 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,220 我们可以使科技变得更具有包容性 technology very inclusive that every 767 00:16:59,220 --> 00:16:59,400 technology very inclusive that every 768 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:00,420 每一个小企业都可以使用，这是我的梦想 technology very inclusive that every 769 00:17:00,420 --> 00:17:02,730 每一个小企业都可以使用，这是我的梦想 small companies can use it this is my 770 00:17:02,730 --> 00:17:03,250 每一个小企业都可以使用，这是我的梦想 dream because I start my first business 771 00:17:03,250 --> 00:17:03,650 dream because I start my first business 772 00:17:03,650 --> 00:17:05,800 我1992年在中国创立我的第一家公司 dream because I start my first business 773 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,570 我1992年在中国创立我的第一家公司 1992 in China as a small business in 774 00:17:07,570 --> 00:17:07,920 1992 in China as a small business in 775 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,600 一家小公司，为了向银行借5000美元 1992 in China as a small business in 776 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,270 一家小公司，为了向银行借5000美元 order to borrow money 777 00:17:11,270 --> 00:17:13,700 一家小公司，为了向银行借5000美元 five thousand US dollars from bank took 778 00:17:13,700 --> 00:17:14,300 five thousand US dollars from bank took 779 00:17:14,300 --> 00:17:15,900 花了3个月申请，仍然失败了，做小企业真的很困难 five thousand US dollars from bank took 780 00:17:15,900 --> 00:17:18,950 花了3个月申请，仍然失败了，做小企业真的很困难 me three months to acquire still fail so 781 00:17:18,950 --> 00:17:20,420 花了3个月申请，仍然失败了，做小企业真的很困难 difficult to be a small business today 782 00:17:20,420 --> 00:17:20,550 difficult to be a small business today 783 00:17:20,550 --> 00:17:21,200 今天随着科技的发展，我们可以做到赋能，这是我想做的事事情 difficult to be a small business today 784 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,300 今天随着科技的发展，我们可以做到赋能，这是我想做的事事情 with the technology we can empower them 785 00:17:24,300 --> 00:17:26,000 今天随着科技的发展，我们可以做到赋能，这是我想做的事事情 this is something I want to do one of 786 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:26,120 this is something I want to do one of 787 00:17:26,120 --> 00:17:26,760 一个对阿里巴巴目前仍在持续的批评是侵权问题 this is something I want to do one of 788 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,050 一个对阿里巴巴目前仍在持续的批评是侵权问题 the critiques as you know and it 789 00:17:28,050 --> 00:17:30,030 一个对阿里巴巴目前仍在持续的批评是侵权问题 continues to linger around Alibaba is 790 00:17:30,030 --> 00:17:30,470 一个对阿里巴巴目前仍在持续的批评是侵权问题 the piracy issue this is a not there's 791 00:17:30,470 --> 00:17:30,670 the piracy issue this is a not there's 792 00:17:30,670 --> 00:17:31,710 在中国知识产权是一个很大的问题 the piracy issue this is a not there's 793 00:17:31,710 --> 00:17:34,720 在中国知识产权是一个很大的问题 an IP issue an issue all over China but 794 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:34,740 an IP issue an issue all over China but 795 00:17:34,740 --> 00:17:34,950 it you you take the brunt of a lot of it 796 00:17:34,950 --> 00:17:37,550 但阿里巴巴是个重要的批评对象 it you you take the brunt of a lot of it 797 00:17:37,550 --> 00:17:37,620 it you you take the brunt of a lot of it 798 00:17:37,620 --> 00:17:38,520 now how much progress have you made 799 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,490 您认为阿里巴巴取得了哪些进步 now how much progress have you made 800 00:17:40,490 --> 00:17:41,000 您认为阿里巴巴取得了哪些进步 in your mind and how do you think about 801 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:41,070 in your mind and how do you think about 802 00:17:41,070 --> 00:17:43,320 如何看待其他国家的监管机构，包括美国，仍在质疑阿里巴巴 in your mind and how do you think about 803 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,360 如何看待其他国家的监管机构，包括美国，仍在质疑阿里巴巴 some of the regulatory bodies and other 804 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:47,420 如何看待其他国家的监管机构，包括美国，仍在质疑阿里巴巴 countries including the US that continue 805 00:17:47,420 --> 00:17:49,350 如何看待其他国家的监管机构，包括美国，仍在质疑阿里巴巴 to criticize Alibaba for this issues 806 00:17:49,350 --> 00:17:49,470 to criticize Alibaba for this issues 807 00:17:49,470 --> 00:17:49,620 first when we start do this business as 808 00:17:49,620 --> 00:17:53,220 首先 当你拥有那么大的商业规模的时候 first when we start do this business as 809 00:17:53,220 --> 00:17:54,820 首先 当你拥有那么大的商业规模的时候 a business like this size you have to 810 00:17:54,820 --> 00:17:56,620 你必须学会接受批评 a business like this size you have to 811 00:17:56,620 --> 00:17:58,970 你必须学会接受批评 take all the crazy system you have to 812 00:17:58,970 --> 00:17:59,300 take all the crazy system you have to 813 00:17:59,300 --> 00:18:00,360 你必须倾听，再来判断那些事对的，哪些是错误的 take all the crazy system you have to 814 00:18:00,360 --> 00:18:02,370 你必须倾听，再来判断那些事对的，哪些是错误的 listen what is right what is wrong and 815 00:18:02,370 --> 00:18:02,650 listen what is right what is wrong and 816 00:18:02,650 --> 00:18:03,060 第二、作为一个赋能1000万小商家规模的电商平台 listen what is right what is wrong and 817 00:18:03,060 --> 00:18:06,000 第二、作为一个赋能1000万小商家规模的电商平台 second as ecommerce when you put 10 minutes 818 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:06,570 第二、作为一个赋能1000万小商家规模的电商平台 small business empower them to sell we 819 00:18:06,570 --> 00:18:06,720 small business empower them to sell we 820 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,730 我们不会像亚马逊buy一样 small business empower them to sell we 821 00:18:08,730 --> 00:18:11,120 我们不会像亚马逊buy一样 do not like amazon and buy we cannot 822 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:12,670 我们不会像亚马逊buy一样 even you buy when you buy 550 billion 823 00:18:12,670 --> 00:18:12,770 even you buy when you buy 550 billion 824 00:18:12,770 --> 00:18:17,310 特别是价值5500亿美元的交易商品，你不可能全部检查 even you buy when you buy 550 billion 825 00:18:17,310 --> 00:18:19,400 特别是价值5500亿美元的交易商品，你不可能全部检查 dollars you cannot check every 826 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:19,650 特别是价值5500亿美元的交易商品，你不可能全部检查 products so the model itself and the 827 00:18:19,650 --> 00:18:19,750 products so the model itself and the 828 00:18:19,750 --> 00:18:21,690 这是电子商务模式本身的问题 products so the model itself and the 829 00:18:21,690 --> 00:18:23,850 这是电子商务模式本身的问题 e-commerce itself may have a lot of this 830 00:18:23,850 --> 00:18:24,200 这是电子商务模式本身的问题 false and third I would say in the past 831 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:24,550 false and third I would say in the past 832 00:18:24,550 --> 00:18:27,860 第三，在过去17年，我们在打假和知识产权保护方面一直是领军者 false and third I would say in the past 833 00:18:27,860 --> 00:18:33,240 第三，在过去17年，我们在打假和知识产权保护方面一直是领军者 17 years we are the leader of this empty 834 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,670 第三，在过去17年，我们在打假和知识产权保护方面一直是领军者 privacy issues the IP protect IP but 835 00:18:36,670 --> 00:18:37,200 privacy issues the IP protect IP but 836 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:37,700 但我们是互联网公司，没有执法权 privacy issues the IP protect IP but 837 00:18:37,700 --> 00:18:39,770 但我们是互联网公司，没有执法权 the second we are Internet 838 00:18:39,770 --> 00:18:42,670 但我们是互联网公司，没有执法权 companies we do not have the law 839 00:18:42,670 --> 00:18:43,720 但我们是互联网公司，没有执法权 enforcement we find this guy is selling 840 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:44,000 enforcement we find this guy is selling 841 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,160 我们发现了某人在卖假货 enforcement we find this guy is selling 842 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:47,750 我们发现了某人在卖假货 product and cheaper you know fake 843 00:18:47,750 --> 00:18:48,000 我们发现了某人在卖假货 products we delete them we cannot arrest 844 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,240 我们可以把他从平台上移除，但不能逮捕他 products we delete them we cannot arrest 845 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:51,070 我们可以把他从平台上移除，但不能逮捕他 them but we are huge progress last year 846 00:18:51,070 --> 00:18:52,950 them but we are huge progress last year 847 00:18:52,950 --> 00:18:54,120 去年一年，我们将400名涉假分子送进监狱 them but we are huge progress last year 848 00:18:54,120 --> 00:18:57,470 去年一年，我们将400名涉假分子送进监狱 alone we put 400 people into juice with 849 00:18:57,470 --> 00:18:57,820 alone we put 400 people into juice with 850 00:18:57,820 --> 00:18:58,520 下架了3.7亿件假货 alone we put 400 people into juice with 851 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,490 下架了3.7亿件假货 delete a 370 million fake products 852 00:19:02,490 --> 00:19:03,670 下架了3.7亿件假货 listing on our site I want to say we are 853 00:19:03,670 --> 00:19:03,800 listing on our site I want to say we are 854 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,630 我们不但是打假的领军者 listing on our site I want to say we are 855 00:19:05,630 --> 00:19:06,820 我们不但是打假的领军者 the leaders and we are using the big 856 00:19:06,820 --> 00:19:07,120 the leaders and we are using the big 857 00:19:07,120 --> 00:19:08,970 我们用大数据来监测 the leaders and we are using the big 858 00:19:08,970 --> 00:19:10,220 我们用大数据来监测 datas to check who's buying who's 859 00:19:10,220 --> 00:19:10,500 datas to check who's buying who's 860 00:19:10,500 --> 00:19:12,890 谁在买、谁在制造、谁在销售 datas to check who's buying who's 861 00:19:12,890 --> 00:19:15,530 谁在买、谁在制造、谁在销售 manufacturing who's selling what is there 862 00:19:15,530 --> 00:19:15,920 谁在买、谁在制造、谁在销售 adress so now I'm happy about the whole 863 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:16,070 adress so now I'm happy about the whole 864 00:19:16,070 --> 00:19:19,160 我们现在对全世界尤其中国政府机构 adress so now I'm happy about the whole 865 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,720 我们现在对全世界尤其中国政府机构 world especially China all the 866 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,600 我们现在对全世界尤其中国政府机构 government organization start to realize 867 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:23,620 government organization start to realize 868 00:19:23,620 --> 00:19:24,690 意识到这个问题感到高兴 government organization start to realize 869 00:19:24,690 --> 00:19:25,270 意识到这个问题感到高兴 the issues so I would tell you a good 870 00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:25,520 the issues so I would tell you a good 871 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:26,730 好事是今天你去问这些“犯罪团伙” the issues so I would tell you a good 872 00:19:26,730 --> 00:19:30,740 好事是今天你去问这些“犯罪团伙” thing is that today when you go to those 873 00:19:30,740 --> 00:19:33,360 好事是今天你去问这些“犯罪团伙” criminal group which I call them 874 00:19:33,360 --> 00:19:34,120 好事是今天你去问这些“犯罪团伙” criminals those fake products 875 00:19:34,120 --> 00:19:34,720 criminals those fake products 876 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,910 这些制假者、售假者 criminals those fake products 877 00:19:36,910 --> 00:19:39,100 这些制假者、售假者 manufacturers sellers you praise the 878 00:19:39,100 --> 00:19:39,250 manufacturers sellers you praise the 879 00:19:39,250 --> 00:19:40,160 索尔金：你在称赞那些售假者 manufacturers sellers you praise the 880 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,450 索尔金：你在称赞那些售假者 quality of some these I would 881 00:19:41,450 --> 00:19:41,550 quality of some these I would 882 00:19:41,550 --> 00:19:41,970 马云：这个我等会会说 quality of some these I would 883 00:19:41,970 --> 00:19:43,010 马云：这个我等会会说 talk about it later 884 00:19:43,010 --> 00:19:43,500 马云：这个我等会会说 all right those criminals said that they can go 885 00:19:43,500 --> 00:19:43,620 all right those criminals said that they can go 886 00:19:43,620 --> 00:19:45,890 他们说，他们可以去任何一个平台 all right those criminals said that they can go 887 00:19:45,890 --> 00:19:48,360 他们说，他们可以去任何一个平台 anywhere but not not taobao or tianmao 888 00:19:48,360 --> 00:19:48,650 他们说，他们可以去任何一个平台 because using our data we trace where 889 00:19:48,650 --> 00:19:48,900 because using our data we trace where 890 00:19:48,900 --> 00:19:50,420 但他们现在不敢上淘宝和天猫 because using our data we trace where 891 00:19:50,420 --> 00:19:50,730 因为我们的大数据可以查出他们是谁，地址在哪 because using our data we trace where 892 00:19:50,730 --> 00:19:52,410 因为我们的大数据可以查出他们是谁，地址在哪 they are who they are what is 893 00:19:52,410 --> 00:19:53,820 因为我们的大数据可以查出他们是谁，地址在哪 their adress and I will deliver this to the 894 00:19:53,820 --> 00:19:53,920 their adress and I will deliver this to the 895 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:54,840 并提交给警方，对他们进行抓捕 their adress and I will deliver this to the 896 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,940 并提交给警方，对他们进行抓捕 Police Station and working with them 897 00:19:56,940 --> 00:19:57,070 并提交给警方，对他们进行抓捕 the quality issues is something I 898 00:19:57,070 --> 00:19:59,940 您之前说过有关假货质量的话 the quality issues is something I 899 00:19:59,940 --> 00:20:00,670 您之前说过有关假货质量的话 want to share with people it's not by 900 00:20:00,670 --> 00:20:01,920 我说的假货质量的话不是对假货进行赞扬 want to share with people it's not by 901 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,770 我说的假货质量的话不是对假货进行赞扬 praising the fake products I want to say 902 00:20:03,770 --> 00:20:04,770 而是说经过这么多年，这些品牌商家必须非常小心 praising the fake products I want to say 903 00:20:04,770 --> 00:20:06,780 而是说经过这么多年，这些品牌商家必须非常小心 that for so many years 904 00:20:06,780 --> 00:20:09,600 而是说经过这么多年，这些品牌商家必须非常小心 those branded companies you have to be 905 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:10,550 而是说经过这么多年，这些品牌商家必须非常小心 very careful because the fake products 906 00:20:10,550 --> 00:20:10,750 very careful because the fake products 907 00:20:10,750 --> 00:20:12,950 因为假货的质量正在大幅提高让人感到恐惧 very careful because the fake products 908 00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:17,180 因为假货的质量正在大幅提高让人感到恐惧 their quality improving is scary 909 00:20:17,180 --> 00:20:17,300 因为假货的质量正在大幅提高让人感到恐惧 that is the difference between us 910 00:20:17,300 --> 00:20:17,550 that is the difference between us 911 00:20:17,550 --> 00:20:19,590 这就是区别 that is the difference between us 912 00:20:19,590 --> 00:20:19,670 这就是区别 because when you find the guys the thing 913 00:20:19,670 --> 00:20:19,870 because when you find the guys the thing 914 00:20:19,870 --> 00:20:23,130 你找到制假者，有人说，这是假货 because when you find the guys the thing 915 00:20:23,130 --> 00:20:25,620 你找到制假者，有人说，这是假货 that people said this is fake and you 916 00:20:25,620 --> 00:20:25,950 你去找第三方鉴定到底是不是假货 that people said this is fake and you 917 00:20:25,950 --> 00:20:27,510 你去找第三方鉴定到底是不是假货 have to find people you have found a 918 00:20:27,510 --> 00:20:29,670 你去找第三方鉴定到底是不是假货 third-party institution to check it's 919 00:20:29,670 --> 00:20:30,470 你去找第三方鉴定到底是不是假货 a fake or not we find sometimes the 920 00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:30,550 a fake or not we find sometimes the 921 00:20:30,550 --> 00:20:32,310 发现有时假货质量更好 a fake or not we find sometimes the 922 00:20:32,310 --> 00:20:33,220 发现有时假货质量更好 quality is better and I tell you another 923 00:20:33,220 --> 00:20:33,550 quality is better and I tell you another 924 00:20:33,550 --> 00:20:34,890 另一个更吓人的是，一家品牌说你们在卖假货 quality is better and I tell you another 925 00:20:34,890 --> 00:20:37,140 另一个更吓人的是，一家品牌说你们在卖假货 thing is even scary a lot of 926 00:20:37,140 --> 00:20:41,130 另一个更吓人的是，一家品牌说你们在卖假货 there's a one brand company he said we 927 00:20:41,130 --> 00:20:42,170 另一个更吓人的是，一家品牌说你们在卖假货 are selling fake products we check 928 00:20:42,170 --> 00:20:43,260 我们找了很久，想发现问题但找不到 are selling fake products we check 929 00:20:43,260 --> 00:20:45,450 我们找了很久，想发现问题但找不到 everything nothing wrong 930 00:20:45,450 --> 00:20:45,840 everything nothing wrong 931 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:46,070 what is wrong so we buy the product from 932 00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:48,240 后来从旗舰店买了一个 what is wrong so we buy the product from 933 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,800 后来从旗舰店买了一个 his flagship and delivered to them they say this 934 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:50,070 his flagship and delivered to them they say this 935 00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:51,660 送过去检查，他们说这是假货 his flagship and delivered to them they say this 936 00:20:51,660 --> 00:20:53,470 送过去检查，他们说这是假货 is a fake you know the thing we buy shop buy 937 00:20:53,470 --> 00:20:55,420 is a fake you know the thing we buy shop buy 938 00:20:55,420 --> 00:20:57,120 我们从旗舰店买了一个，送过去检查，他们说这是假货 is a fake you know the thing we buy shop buy 939 00:20:57,120 --> 00:20:57,140 我们从旗舰店买了一个，送过去检查，他们说这是假货 940 00:20:57,140 --> 00:21:00,120 我们从旗舰店买了一个，送过去检查，他们说这是假货 things from the Flag shop of this brand 941 00:21:00,120 --> 00:21:00,140 我们从旗舰店买了一个，送过去检查，他们说这是假货 and deliver back it's the fake products 942 00:21:00,140 --> 00:21:03,000 我们从旗舰店买了一个，送过去检查，他们说这是假货 and deliver back it's the fake products 943 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:03,220 我们从旗舰店买了一个，送过去检查，他们说这是假货 they say that's a bit confusing this is 944 00:21:03,220 --> 00:21:06,300 这很令人困惑，打假是同人性的贪婪作斗争 they say that's a bit confusing this is 945 00:21:06,300 --> 00:21:09,690 这很令人困惑，打假是同人性的贪婪作斗争 fighting against the fake product it's a 946 00:21:09,690 --> 00:21:12,060 这很令人困惑，打假是同人性的贪婪作斗争 wall against the greedy human 947 00:21:12,060 --> 00:21:12,670 这很令人困惑，打假是同人性的贪婪作斗争 greediness it's not easy you cannot 948 00:21:12,670 --> 00:21:14,120 一点都不容易 greediness it's not easy you cannot 949 00:21:14,120 --> 00:21:14,300 greediness it's not easy you cannot 950 00:21:14,300 --> 00:21:14,880 也不可能结束，但必须继续战斗 greediness it's not easy you cannot 951 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,100 也不可能结束，但必须继续战斗 finish it but you have to continue to 952 00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:17,270 也不可能结束，但必须继续战斗 fight and I want to say we put two 953 00:21:17,270 --> 00:21:17,420 fight and I want to say we put two 954 00:21:17,420 --> 00:21:19,080 我们每年投入2000名专职人员 fight and I want to say we put two 955 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,220 我们每年投入2000名专职人员 thousand people 1 billion RMB every 956 00:21:20,220 --> 00:21:20,570 thousand people 1 billion RMB every 957 00:21:20,570 --> 00:21:22,590 每年投入10亿元人民币在打假 thousand people 1 billion RMB every 958 00:21:22,590 --> 00:21:23,800 每年投入10亿元人民币在打假 year fighting again bet it can never 959 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:23,870 year fighting again bet it can never 960 00:21:23,870 --> 00:21:25,020 不可能两年内结束战争 year fighting again bet it can never 961 00:21:25,020 --> 00:21:27,220 不可能两年内结束战争 finish the war within 2 years but I'm 962 00:21:27,220 --> 00:21:27,400 finish the war within 2 years but I'm 963 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:28,080 如果人们还在继续批评 finish the war within 2 years but I'm 964 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:28,530 如果人们还在继续批评 happy 965 00:21:28,530 --> 00:21:32,220 如果人们还在继续批评 when people criticize me criticize us 966 00:21:32,220 --> 00:21:32,500 如果人们还在继续批评 the most important is that we are happy 967 00:21:32,500 --> 00:21:35,520 重要的是我们自己对进展是高兴的 the most important is that we are happy 968 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,150 重要的是我们自己对进展是高兴的 about the progress we made if people 969 00:21:38,150 --> 00:21:38,400 about the progress we made if people 970 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,210 如果人们赞扬我，说马云你很棒！ about the progress we made if people 971 00:21:39,210 --> 00:21:41,460 如果人们赞扬我，说马云你很棒！ praise me so you know when people say 972 00:21:41,460 --> 00:21:41,870 如果人们赞扬我，说马云你很棒！ jack you're wonderful I know I'm not 973 00:21:41,870 --> 00:21:42,930 我知道并不是很棒。阿里巴巴很伟大！ jack you're wonderful I know I'm not 974 00:21:42,930 --> 00:21:45,060 我知道并不是很棒。阿里巴巴很伟大！ wonderful right or alibaba is great 975 00:21:45,060 --> 00:21:45,200 我知道并不是很棒。阿里巴巴很伟大！ we are not great we're just a 17 year 976 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:45,270 we are not great we're just a 17 year 977 00:21:45,270 --> 00:21:47,160 我们并非很棒，我们只是个17年历史的公司而已 we are not great we're just a 17 year 978 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:47,850 我们并非很棒，我们只是个17年历史的公司而已 old company but when people say you're 979 00:21:47,850 --> 00:21:48,000 old company but when people say you're 980 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,500 但如果他们说，你们在打假上什么都没做 old company but when people say you're 981 00:21:49,500 --> 00:21:50,250 但如果他们说，你们在打假上什么都没做 doing nothing no we're doing a lot of 982 00:21:50,250 --> 00:21:51,150 不 我们在做很多事情 doing nothing no we're doing a lot of 983 00:21:51,150 --> 00:21:51,920 不 我们在做很多事情 things but you do not have to argue you do not have 984 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:51,970 things but you do not have to argue you do not have 985 00:21:51,970 --> 00:21:53,640 但你不用去争辩，你只要做你相信的事就好 things but you do not have to argue you do not have 986 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,700 但你不用去争辩，你只要做你相信的事就好 debate you do what you believe one of 987 00:21:55,700 --> 00:21:55,920 debate you do what you believe one of 988 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:56,550 您谈到了在打假上运用大数据 debate you do what you believe one of 989 00:21:56,550 --> 00:21:57,810 您谈到了在打假上运用大数据 the things you mentioned was using big 990 00:21:57,810 --> 00:21:59,000 您谈到了在打假上运用大数据 data on the piracy side but the other 991 00:21:59,000 --> 00:21:59,070 data on the piracy side but the other 992 00:21:59,070 --> 00:21:59,460 另一方面你们也在信用体系上运用了大数据 data on the piracy side but the other 993 00:21:59,460 --> 00:22:00,690 另一方面你们也在信用体系上运用了大数据 thing that you're using a lot of that 994 00:22:00,690 --> 00:22:02,300 另一方面你们也在信用体系上运用了大数据 big data to do is provide credit and 995 00:22:02,300 --> 00:22:02,350 big data to do is provide credit and 996 00:22:02,350 --> 00:22:03,270 使贷不到款的人能够得到贷款 big data to do is provide credit and 997 00:22:03,270 --> 00:22:05,650 使贷不到款的人能够得到贷款 effectively banking the unbanked 998 00:22:05,650 --> 00:22:06,920 使贷不到款的人能够得到贷款 and what's so fascinating to me and I 999 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:06,950 我们谈到芝麻信用 and what's so fascinating to me and I 1000 00:22:06,950 --> 00:22:07,060 我们谈到芝麻信用 and what's so fascinating to me and I 1001 00:22:07,060 --> 00:22:08,830 我们谈到芝麻信用 hope you'll share it is we talked about 1002 00:22:08,830 --> 00:22:09,600 我们谈到芝麻信用 the sesame credit yeah how you are able 1003 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:09,620 the sesame credit yeah how you are able 1004 00:22:09,620 --> 00:22:11,590 怎么判断谁到底可以得到贷款，谁不该得到呢？ the sesame credit yeah how you are able 1005 00:22:11,590 --> 00:22:15,010 怎么判断谁到底可以得到贷款，谁不该得到呢？ to use big data effectively to figure 1006 00:22:15,010 --> 00:22:17,890 怎么判断谁到底可以得到贷款，谁不该得到呢？ out who deserves credit and who doesn't 1007 00:22:17,890 --> 00:22:17,950 怎么判断谁到底可以得到贷款，谁不该得到呢？ in a marketplace where some of these 1008 00:22:17,950 --> 00:22:18,050 in a marketplace where some of these 1009 00:22:18,050 --> 00:22:21,160 加入一个可能一些人没有信用记录的交易市场上 in a marketplace where some of these 1010 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,220 加入一个可能一些人没有信用记录的交易市场上 people had no credit history before okay 1011 00:22:23,220 --> 00:22:24,750 people had no credit history before okay 1012 00:22:24,750 --> 00:22:25,050 well before we do that we had a system 1013 00:22:25,050 --> 00:22:28,870 首先，此前，我们有一个系统 well before we do that we had a system 1014 00:22:28,870 --> 00:22:29,950 首先，此前，我们有一个系统 called teach computers to learn how to 1015 00:22:29,950 --> 00:22:30,020 called teach computers to learn how to 1016 00:22:30,020 --> 00:22:30,880 教计算机学会怎么甄别假货 called teach computers to learn how to 1017 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,190 教计算机学会怎么甄别假货 entice fake products teach the computer 1018 00:22:33,190 --> 00:22:37,120 教计算机学会怎么甄别假货 to learn how to because we have alipay 1019 00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:39,040 教计算机学会怎么甄别假货 a lot of people try to use all the ways to 1020 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,890 教计算机学会怎么甄别假货 cheating so we teach the computer how to 1021 00:22:41,890 --> 00:22:44,170 教计算机学会怎么甄别假货 do that the cheating things so we've 1022 00:22:44,170 --> 00:22:44,500 do that the cheating things so we've 1023 00:22:44,500 --> 00:22:45,730 以及支付宝上的诈骗，我们已经做了十年 do that the cheating things so we've 1024 00:22:45,730 --> 00:22:47,070 以及支付宝上的诈骗，我们已经做了十年 been doing that for 10 years until now 1025 00:22:47,070 --> 00:22:47,170 been doing that for 10 years until now 1026 00:22:47,170 --> 00:22:47,800 现在人们把这叫做AI人工智能 been doing that for 10 years until now 1027 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,690 现在人们把这叫做AI人工智能 there's called artificial intelligence 1028 00:22:49,690 --> 00:22:51,300 现在人们把这叫做AI人工智能 because we're doing that we are a data 1029 00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:52,520 because we're doing that we are a data 1030 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,310 我们是一家数据公司，8年前，我们对自己说 because we're doing that we are a data 1031 00:22:54,310 --> 00:22:58,240 我们是一家数据公司，8年前，我们对自己说 company eight years ago we said to 1032 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:58,720 我们是一家数据公司，8年前，我们对自己说 ourselves 1033 00:22:58,720 --> 00:22:58,930 我们不能做一家电商，我们要做一家数据公司 ourselves 1034 00:22:58,930 --> 00:23:00,430 我们不能做一家电商，我们要做一家数据公司 Alibaba should not be an e-commerce 1035 00:23:00,430 --> 00:23:02,350 我们不能做一家电商，我们要做一家数据公司 company we should be a data company 1036 00:23:02,350 --> 00:23:02,400 company we should be a data company 1037 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:02,530 我们有消费者、制造商、物流、交易等等数据 company we should be a data company 1038 00:23:02,530 --> 00:23:04,330 我们有消费者、制造商、物流、交易等等数据 because we have the data from consumers who have 1039 00:23:04,330 --> 00:23:07,630 我们有消费者、制造商、物流、交易等等数据 data from the manufacturer we have datas 1040 00:23:07,630 --> 00:23:10,060 我们有消费者、制造商、物流、交易等等数据 from logistic companies and transactions 1041 00:23:10,060 --> 00:23:10,150 我们有消费者、制造商、物流、交易等等数据 but we think how we can make a data 1042 00:23:10,150 --> 00:23:10,300 but we think how we can make a data 1043 00:23:10,300 --> 00:23:12,250 但如何运用好这些数据造福社会 but we think how we can make a data 1044 00:23:12,250 --> 00:23:14,950 但如何运用好这些数据造福社会 really beneficiary to the society what 1045 00:23:14,950 --> 00:23:15,070 really beneficiary to the society what 1046 00:23:15,070 --> 00:23:15,670 很多中国小企业都非常好，有很好的信用 really beneficiary to the society what 1047 00:23:15,670 --> 00:23:17,380 很多中国小企业都非常好，有很好的信用 China needs is that we have a lot of 1048 00:23:17,380 --> 00:23:21,580 很多中国小企业都非常好，有很好的信用 great people all the small business if 1049 00:23:21,580 --> 00:23:23,590 很多中国小企业都非常好，有很好的信用 they have a very they're very credible 1050 00:23:23,590 --> 00:23:23,620 很多中国小企业都非常好，有很好的信用 but the other we don't have a credit 1051 00:23:23,620 --> 00:23:23,900 but the other we don't have a credit 1052 00:23:23,900 --> 00:23:25,090 但是没有一个适合他们的信用系统 but the other we don't have a credit 1053 00:23:25,090 --> 00:23:26,050 但是没有一个适合他们的信用系统 system for that so how can we using a 1054 00:23:26,050 --> 00:23:26,150 system for that so how can we using a 1055 00:23:26,150 --> 00:23:27,970 怎么用我们的数据打造一个信用体系 system for that so how can we using a 1056 00:23:27,970 --> 00:23:29,620 怎么用我们的数据打造一个信用体系 credit rating system based on the datas 1057 00:23:29,620 --> 00:23:29,770 credit rating system based on the datas 1058 00:23:29,770 --> 00:23:31,090 使所有人都能获及这个信用系统 credit rating system based on the datas 1059 00:23:31,090 --> 00:23:34,750 使所有人都能获及这个信用系统 we have put it giving everybody a sesame 1060 00:23:34,750 --> 00:23:37,550 使所有人都能获及这个信用系统 a rating system that is so powerful in 1061 00:23:37,550 --> 00:23:37,720 a rating system that is so powerful in 1062 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,430 这在过去四年非常强大 a rating system that is so powerful in 1063 00:23:39,430 --> 00:23:40,370 这在过去四年非常强大 the past four years because every 1064 00:23:40,370 --> 00:23:40,470 the past four years because every 1065 00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:41,830 所有用我们服务的人 the past four years because every 1066 00:23:41,830 --> 00:23:44,020 所有用我们服务的人 individual every small business if they 1067 00:23:44,020 --> 00:23:45,300 所有用我们服务的人 have been using our services we give them 1068 00:23:45,300 --> 00:23:45,350 have been using our services we give them 1069 00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:46,510 我们都给他一个信用系统 have been using our services we give them 1070 00:23:46,510 --> 00:23:47,100 我们都给他一个信用系统 rating system so we're giving loans in 1071 00:23:47,100 --> 00:23:47,320 rating system so we're giving loans in 1072 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:48,820 在过去5年，我们放了500万个小企业商业贷款 rating system so we're giving loans in 1073 00:23:48,820 --> 00:23:51,310 在过去5年，我们放了500万个小企业商业贷款 the past five years we giving five 1074 00:23:51,310 --> 00:23:53,350 在过去5年，我们放了500万个小企业商业贷款 million business loans they only bought 1075 00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:53,670 million business loans they only bought 1076 00:23:53,670 --> 00:23:54,520 即使他们只要求5000美金 million business loans they only bought 1077 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:55,970 即使他们只要求5000美金 borrowed $5,000 three minutes we can 1078 00:23:55,970 --> 00:23:56,150 borrowed $5,000 three minutes we can 1079 00:23:56,150 --> 00:23:58,090 3分钟可以决定是否放贷，给多少钱，1秒钟到账 borrowed $5,000 three minutes we can 1080 00:23:58,090 --> 00:23:59,770 3分钟可以决定是否放贷，给多少钱，1秒钟到账 decide whether we should give you money 1081 00:23:59,770 --> 00:24:01,990 3分钟可以决定是否放贷，给多少钱，1秒钟到账 how much money give within one 1082 00:24:01,990 --> 00:24:04,020 3分钟可以决定是否放贷，给多少钱，1秒钟到账 second the money will be in your count 1083 00:24:04,020 --> 00:24:04,030 second the money will be in your count 1084 00:24:04,030 --> 00:24:04,150 and zero people touch so we call it 1085 00:24:04,150 --> 00:24:06,640 不需要任何人去跟他们接触，我们这叫310 and zero people touch so we call it 1086 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,000 不需要任何人去跟他们接触，我们这叫310 three one zero and even today the sesame 1087 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,760 芝麻信用也可以做谈恋爱的 three one zero and even today the sesame 1088 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,270 芝麻信用也可以做谈恋爱的 rating system become people dating the 1089 00:24:12,270 --> 00:24:12,500 rating system become people dating the 1090 00:24:12,500 --> 00:24:13,000 丈母娘对未来女婿说 rating system become people dating the 1091 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,700 丈母娘对未来女婿说 mother-in-law want to say hey you want 1092 00:24:14,700 --> 00:24:14,750 mother-in-law want to say hey you want 1093 00:24:14,750 --> 00:24:15,490 你要和我女儿谈恋爱 给我看看你的芝麻信用多少分 mother-in-law want to say hey you want 1094 00:24:15,490 --> 00:24:17,580 你要和我女儿谈恋爱 给我看看你的芝麻信用多少分 to dating with my daughter show me 1095 00:24:17,580 --> 00:24:19,300 你要和我女儿谈恋爱 给我看看你的芝麻信用多少分 your rating system of the sesame cart so 1096 00:24:19,300 --> 00:24:19,570 your rating system of the sesame cart so 1097 00:24:19,570 --> 00:24:20,340 如果人们要去租车，也会被要求看芝麻信用评分 your rating system of the sesame cart so 1098 00:24:20,340 --> 00:24:23,100 如果人们要去租车，也会被要求看芝麻信用评分 it's so funny we go to the people want 1099 00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:24,630 如果人们要去租车，也会被要求看芝麻信用评分 to rent a car people want to rent a 1100 00:24:24,630 --> 00:24:26,370 如果人们要去租车，也会被要求看芝麻信用评分 bicycle they will say show me your 1101 00:24:26,370 --> 00:24:27,900 如果人们要去租车，也会被要求看芝麻信用评分 sesame carts mmm good because if they do 1102 00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:27,970 sesame carts mmm good because if they do 1103 00:24:27,970 --> 00:24:29,420 如果他们不还钱 sesame carts mmm good because if they do 1104 00:24:29,420 --> 00:24:31,000 如果他们不还钱 not have paid back if they do not 1105 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:31,050 not have paid back if they do not 1106 00:24:31,050 --> 00:24:31,980 信用评分会降低，可能无法租房 not have paid back if they do not 1107 00:24:31,980 --> 00:24:33,720 信用评分会降低，可能无法租房 fulfill the radiuses are going to low 1108 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,640 信用评分会降低，可能无法租房 down and they can never rent a house 1109 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:35,950 信用评分会降低，可能无法租房 right this is what we want to do that 1110 00:24:35,950 --> 00:24:36,170 right this is what we want to do that 1111 00:24:36,170 --> 00:24:37,710 这是我们想要打造的系统 right this is what we want to do that 1112 00:24:37,710 --> 00:24:38,950 这是我们想要打造的系统 the system that if you sell or buy fake 1113 00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:39,020 the system that if you sell or buy fake 1114 00:24:39,020 --> 00:24:41,310 如果你买卖假货，芝麻信用也会体现 the system that if you sell or buy fake 1115 00:24:41,310 --> 00:24:44,650 如果你买卖假货，芝麻信用也会体现 products the sesame cars will show 1116 00:24:44,650 --> 00:24:44,950 products the sesame cars will show 1117 00:24:44,950 --> 00:24:45,360 最后一个问题，对你进军好莱坞有很多猜测 products the sesame cars will show 1118 00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:47,490 最后一个问题，对你进军好莱坞有很多猜测 we open up to questions but a final one for me 1119 00:24:47,490 --> 00:24:48,990 最后一个问题，对你进军好莱坞有很多猜测 there's been a lot of speculation that 1120 00:24:48,990 --> 00:24:50,100 最后一个问题，对你进军好莱坞有很多猜测 you're going to get into the business of 1121 00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:50,620 最后一个问题，对你进军好莱坞有很多猜测 Hollywood your name has appeared Alibaba 1122 00:24:50,620 --> 00:24:52,620 您和阿里巴巴的名字出现在年初的几个大片中 Hollywood your name has appeared Alibaba 1123 00:24:52,620 --> 00:24:55,080 您和阿里巴巴的名字出现在年初的几个大片中 Group at the beginning of a couple of 1124 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:56,250 您和阿里巴巴的名字出现在年初的几个大片中 big films recently 1125 00:24:56,250 --> 00:24:56,270 阿里巴巴进军好莱坞的雄心是什么 big films recently 1126 00:24:56,270 --> 00:24:59,700 阿里巴巴进军好莱坞的雄心是什么 what is the ambition for Alibaba in the 1127 00:24:59,700 --> 00:25:00,770 阿里巴巴进军好莱坞的雄心是什么 entertainment world 1128 00:25:00,770 --> 00:25:01,070 阿里巴巴进军好莱坞的雄心是什么 um the beginning were like this several 1129 00:25:01,070 --> 00:25:01,800 um the beginning were like this several 1130 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,620 每隔五年，我们都会做战略回顾，展望未来30年、10年 um the beginning were like this several 1131 00:25:04,620 --> 00:25:07,380 每隔五年，我们都会做战略回顾，展望未来30年、10年 years we every five years we have a 1132 00:25:07,380 --> 00:25:10,010 每隔五年，我们都会做战略回顾，展望未来30年、10年 review for our strategy now our strategy is 1133 00:25:10,010 --> 00:25:12,370 每隔五年，我们都会做战略回顾，展望未来30年、10年 always look at the 30 years and 10 years 1134 00:25:12,370 --> 00:25:12,590 always look at the 30 years and 10 years 1135 00:25:12,590 --> 00:25:12,650 every strategic decisions we make we 1136 00:25:12,650 --> 00:25:16,350 所有战略问题都问自己一个问题，是否解决社会问题 every strategic decisions we make we 1137 00:25:16,350 --> 00:25:18,650 所有战略问题都问自己一个问题，是否解决社会问题 have to ask one question if 1138 00:25:18,650 --> 00:25:22,280 所有战略问题都问自己一个问题，是否解决社会问题 this decision we make solve society 1139 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:22,650 所有战略问题都问自己一个问题，是否解决社会问题 problems because we believe the bigger 1140 00:25:22,650 --> 00:25:24,600 我们相信，，解决的问题越多，你越成功 problems because we believe the bigger 1141 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,970 我们相信，，解决的问题越多，你越成功 social problem you solve the more 1142 00:25:26,970 --> 00:25:27,820 我们相信，，解决的问题越多，你越成功 successful you are so if we do this 1143 00:25:27,820 --> 00:25:28,100 successful you are so if we do this 1144 00:25:28,100 --> 00:25:29,540 如果它不能解决任何社会问题，我们就不做 successful you are so if we do this 1145 00:25:29,540 --> 00:25:31,830 如果它不能解决任何社会问题，我们就不做 cannot solve any social problems we 1146 00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:32,170 如果它不能解决任何社会问题，我们就不做 don't do it second is this project is 1147 00:25:32,170 --> 00:25:32,270 don't do it second is this project is 1148 00:25:32,270 --> 00:25:34,380 第二个问题，这个项目十年内会成功？ don't do it second is this project is 1149 00:25:34,380 --> 00:25:36,820 第二个问题，这个项目十年内会成功？ going to be successful in 10 years if 1150 00:25:36,820 --> 00:25:37,100 going to be successful in 10 years if 1151 00:25:37,100 --> 00:25:37,500 那我们就做 going to be successful in 10 years if 1152 00:25:37,500 --> 00:25:40,250 那我们就做 it's going to be successful in 10 years 1153 00:25:40,250 --> 00:25:40,320 如果一个月或一年就能成功，那就不用做了 it's going to be successful in 10 years 1154 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,210 如果一个月或一年就能成功，那就不用做了 let's do it if it's going to be 1155 00:25:42,210 --> 00:25:44,880 如果一个月或一年就能成功，那就不用做了 successful in one year or one month 1156 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,450 如果一个月或一年就能成功，那就不用做了 normally I say forget about it because 1157 00:25:47,450 --> 00:25:47,650 normally I say forget about it because 1158 00:25:47,650 --> 00:25:48,360 怎么可能在一年和一个月成功？ normally I say forget about it because 1159 00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:51,000 怎么可能在一年和一个月成功？ why you can be successful in one year or 1160 00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:51,650 怎么可能在一年和一个月成功？ one mouth so we all have to put term and 1161 00:25:51,650 --> 00:25:51,970 one mouth so we all have to put term and 1162 00:25:51,970 --> 00:25:53,760 五年前，我们有过一个大辩论 one mouth so we all have to put term and 1163 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:57,020 五年前，我们有过一个大辩论 five years ago we had a big debate about 1164 00:25:57,020 --> 00:25:57,370 五年前，我们有过一个大辩论 10 years later 20 years what are the 1165 00:25:57,370 --> 00:25:57,420 10 years later 20 years what are the 1166 00:25:57,420 --> 00:26:00,170 对未来10年，20年中国最需要什么 10 years later 20 years what are the 1167 00:26:00,170 --> 00:26:02,510 对未来10年，20年中国最需要什么 things the China Society the world want 1168 00:26:02,510 --> 00:26:02,970 对未来10年，20年中国最需要什么 so we say happiness and health 2 H 1169 00:26:02,970 --> 00:26:03,150 so we say happiness and health 2 H 1170 00:26:03,150 --> 00:26:06,840 最后决定是happiness和health，双H战略 so we say happiness and health 2 H 1171 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,370 最后决定是happiness和health，双H战略 strategy happiness and health we 1172 00:26:09,370 --> 00:26:09,420 strategy happiness and health we 1173 00:26:09,420 --> 00:26:09,960 好莱坞电影能带给人快乐 strategy happiness and health we 1174 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,260 好莱坞电影能带给人快乐 believe hollywood you know the movie 1175 00:26:12,260 --> 00:26:14,520 好莱坞电影能带给人快乐 industry bring people happy because today 1176 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:14,750 industry bring people happy because today 1177 00:26:14,750 --> 00:26:15,530 现在没有人快乐，富有的人不快乐，穷人不快乐 industry bring people happy because today 1178 00:26:15,530 --> 00:26:17,340 现在没有人快乐，富有的人不快乐，穷人不快乐 nobody is happy rich people no happy 1179 00:26:17,340 --> 00:26:19,120 现在没有人快乐，富有的人不快乐，穷人不快乐 poor people no happy you know at least 1180 00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:19,710 至少看电影能让人快乐 poor people no happy you know at least 1181 00:26:19,710 --> 00:26:21,390 至少看电影能让人快乐 where I watch movie you're happy but 1182 00:26:21,390 --> 00:26:22,150 至少看电影能让人快乐 but so I think we should partner with 1183 00:26:22,150 --> 00:26:22,320 but so I think we should partner with 1184 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,840 我觉得我们应该和好莱坞合作 but so I think we should partner with 1185 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,600 我觉得我们应该和好莱坞合作 the Hollywood especially like a lot of 1186 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:27,790 the Hollywood especially like a lot of 1187 00:26:27,790 --> 00:26:30,170 you know we have a different way of 1188 00:26:30,170 --> 00:26:30,990 living 1189 00:26:30,990 --> 00:26:31,750 in China the movie we have a lot of 1190 00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:34,110 中国有很多英雄，中国英雄总有死 in China the movie we have a lot of 1191 00:26:34,110 --> 00:26:36,330 中国有很多英雄，中国英雄总有死 heroes but China movie's heroes always dead 1192 00:26:36,330 --> 00:26:37,050 中国有很多英雄，中国英雄总有死 the American movie hero never 1193 00:26:37,050 --> 00:26:38,910 美国英雄永远不会死 the American movie hero never 1194 00:26:38,910 --> 00:26:40,000 美国英雄永远不会死 die if all the heroes die who want to 1195 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:40,370 die if all the heroes die who want to 1196 00:26:40,370 --> 00:26:43,380 如果所有英雄都死了，谁愿意做英雄 die if all the heroes die who want to 1197 00:26:43,380 --> 00:26:44,550 如果所有英雄都死了，谁愿意做英雄 be the hero so my movie I want to make 1198 00:26:44,550 --> 00:26:44,900 be the hero so my movie I want to make 1199 00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:46,710 我想要我的英雄活下来，这个我们应该多多学习 be the hero so my movie I want to make 1200 00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:49,890 我想要我的英雄活下来，这个我们应该多多学习 the hero live right so this is this 1201 00:26:49,890 --> 00:26:51,300 我想要我的英雄活下来，这个我们应该多多学习 is I think we should learn a lot and 1202 00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:51,650 is I think we should learn a lot and 1203 00:26:51,650 --> 00:26:51,920 目前我们只做了2年，还有8年 is I think we should learn a lot and 1204 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,570 目前我们只做了2年，还有8年 it's all about two years so we have 1205 00:26:54,570 --> 00:26:55,970 目前我们只做了2年，还有8年 another eight years to go I want to make 1206 00:26:55,970 --> 00:26:56,150 another eight years to go I want to make 1207 00:26:56,150 --> 00:26:57,270 我想让我的公司不只是电商，而是给人启示 another eight years to go I want to make 1208 00:26:57,270 --> 00:27:03,420 我想让我的公司不只是电商，而是给人启示 our company that it's not ecommerce it's 1209 00:27:03,420 --> 00:27:04,910 我想让我的公司不只是电商，而是给人启示 something that giving people 1210 00:27:04,910 --> 00:27:06,400 我想让我的公司不只是电商，而是给人启示 inspirations given people because I 1211 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:06,600 inspirations given people because I 1212 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:07,890 我从电影中得到很多启示 inspirations given people because I 1213 00:27:07,890 --> 00:27:10,020 我从电影中得到很多启示 learn a lot for example I will say that 1214 00:27:10,020 --> 00:27:10,220 learn a lot for example I will say that 1215 00:27:10,220 --> 00:27:10,710 我最喜欢的电影是《阿甘正传》 learn a lot for example I will say that 1216 00:27:10,710 --> 00:27:13,900 我最喜欢的电影是《阿甘正传》 my favorite movie Forrest Gump 1217 00:27:13,900 --> 00:27:14,270 my favorite movie Forrest Gump 1218 00:27:14,270 --> 00:27:14,760 生活是艰难的，这是我从中学到的，得到了很多启示 my favorite movie Forrest Gump 1219 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,150 生活是艰难的，这是我从中学到的，得到了很多启示 you know life is tough this is I learned and 1220 00:27:18,150 --> 00:27:19,920 生活是艰难的，这是我从中学到的，得到了很多启示 that inspired me that is why when people 1221 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:20,170 that inspired me that is why when people 1222 00:27:20,170 --> 00:27:21,290 在过去的17年别人说我是疯子，笨蛋 that inspired me that is why when people 1223 00:27:21,290 --> 00:27:24,330 在过去的17年别人说我是疯子，笨蛋 call me crazy stupid past 17 years 1224 00:27:24,330 --> 00:27:24,600 在过去的17年别人说我是疯子，笨蛋 you're crazy you are doing something never 1225 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,100 你疯了，去做不可能的事 you're crazy you are doing something never 1226 00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:26,370 你疯了，去做不可能的事 work you're stupid how can do that model 1227 00:27:26,370 --> 00:27:26,450 work you're stupid how can do that model 1228 00:27:26,450 --> 00:27:28,470 你是个笨蛋，怎么能做这种模式 work you're stupid how can do that model 1229 00:27:28,470 --> 00:27:28,550 work you're stupid how can do that model 1230 00:27:28,550 --> 00:27:28,590 亚马逊是这个模式，Ebay这个模式，阿里巴巴为什么这个模式 work you're stupid how can do that model 1231 00:27:28,590 --> 00:27:31,080 亚马逊是这个模式，Ebay这个模式，阿里巴巴为什么这个模式 amazon this model eBay this model 1232 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,000 亚马逊是这个模式，Ebay这个模式，阿里巴巴为什么这个模式 wyh aliBaba this model I told myself Forrest Gump 1233 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:32,270 wyh aliBaba this model I told myself Forrest Gump 1234 00:27:32,270 --> 00:27:34,200 我对自己说，阿甘说，继续干，别在意别人的想法 wyh aliBaba this model I told myself Forrest Gump 1235 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,660 我对自己说，阿甘说，继续干，别在意别人的想法 said go ahead never care about 1236 00:27:36,660 --> 00:27:37,100 我对自己说，阿甘说，继续干，别在意别人的想法 what the other people and the other 1237 00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:37,420 what the other people and the other 1238 00:27:37,420 --> 00:27:38,280 阿甘还说，没有人能靠抓鲸鱼挣钱，人们靠抓小虾赚钱 what the other people and the other 1239 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,650 阿甘还说，没有人能靠抓鲸鱼挣钱，人们靠抓小虾赚钱 thing Forrest Gump said nobody make 1240 00:27:40,650 --> 00:27:43,320 阿甘还说，没有人能靠抓鲸鱼挣钱，人们靠抓小虾赚钱 money out of the catch whales people 1241 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,970 阿甘还说，没有人能靠抓鲸鱼挣钱，人们靠抓小虾赚钱 make money by catching shrimps so we 1242 00:27:45,970 --> 00:27:46,150 make money by catching shrimps so we 1243 00:27:46,150 --> 00:27:46,950 所以，我们服务小企业 make money by catching shrimps so we 1244 00:27:46,950 --> 00:27:48,920 所以，我们服务小企业 serve small business fair enough 1245 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:49,970 serve small business fair enough 1246 00:27:49,970 --> 00:27:50,100 马云，我们现在差不多应该要停了 serve small business fair enough 1247 00:27:50,100 --> 00:27:52,770 马云，我们现在差不多应该要停了 Jack Ma we should probably end it there 1248 00:27:52,770 --> 00:27:52,860 Jack Ma we should probably end it there 1249 00:27:52,860 --> 00:27:52,900 it going to run out of time but I 1250 00:27:52,900 --> 00:27:54,720 谢谢 谢谢您跟我们聊天 it going to run out of time but I 1251 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,850 谢谢 谢谢您跟我们聊天 thank you I thank you so much for the 1252 00:27:56,850 --> 00:27:57,800 谢谢 谢谢您跟我们聊天 conversation I promise we speak in a 1253 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,100 我们只剩下两分钟了 真的两分钟了 conversation I promise we speak in a 1254 00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:00,540 我们只剩下两分钟了 真的两分钟了 question or two when we literally have 1255 00:28:00,540 --> 00:28:01,440 我们只剩下两分钟了 真的两分钟了 two minutes and they're going to get 1256 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,070 我们只剩下两分钟了 真的两分钟了 upset with me if you have a 1257 00:28:02,070 --> 00:28:02,200 upset with me if you have a 1258 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,000 如果大家要提问 求你们了 1秒钟问完 upset with me if you have a 1259 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,010 如果大家要提问 求你们了 1秒钟问完 question of and we're going to yeah 1260 00:28:05,010 --> 00:28:06,840 如果大家要提问 求你们了 1秒钟问完 I got beg you to do it within literally 1261 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,400 如果大家要提问 求你们了 1秒钟问完 you know a second to go for it right 1262 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:08,620 如果大家要提问 求你们了 1秒钟问完 there 1263 00:28:08,620 --> 00:28:09,970 there 1264 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:18,420 你觉得中国会进入贸易战吗 1265 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:20,020 well I don't think so I think China and 1266 00:28:20,020 --> 00:28:23,200 我认为中美不应该打贸易战，永远也不应该打贸易战 well I don't think so I think China and 1267 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,240 我认为中美不应该打贸易战，永远也不应该打贸易战 US should never have a trade or will 1268 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,420 我认为中美不应该打贸易战，永远也不应该打贸易战 never have a trade war and I think we 1269 00:28:26,420 --> 00:28:26,700 never have a trade war and I think we 1270 00:28:26,700 --> 00:28:28,120 我认为我们应该给川普总统一些时间 never have a trade war and I think we 1271 00:28:28,120 --> 00:28:29,740 我认为我们应该给川普总统一些时间 should giving president elect Donald 1272 00:28:29,740 --> 00:28:30,550 我认为我们应该给川普总统一些时间 Trump some time and he's open-minded 1273 00:28:30,550 --> 00:28:30,750 Trump some time and he's open-minded 1274 00:28:30,750 --> 00:28:31,890 他是一个思想开明的人，他在听大家的声音 Trump some time and he's open-minded 1275 00:28:31,890 --> 00:28:33,970 他是一个思想开明的人，他在听大家的声音 he's listening and I think the world is 1276 00:28:33,970 --> 00:28:34,050 he's listening and I think the world is 1277 00:28:34,050 --> 00:28:36,820 我认为发动战争是非常容易，但结束战争是很困难的 he's listening and I think the world is 1278 00:28:36,820 --> 00:28:40,150 我认为发动战争是非常容易，但结束战争是很困难的 so easy to launch a war but it's so 1279 00:28:40,150 --> 00:28:41,350 我认为发动战争是非常容易，但结束战争是很困难的 difficult almost impossible sometimes to 1280 00:28:41,350 --> 00:28:43,090 甚至是没有可能 difficult almost impossible sometimes to 1281 00:28:43,090 --> 00:28:44,050 甚至是没有可能 terminated a war the Iraq war Afghanistan 1282 00:28:44,050 --> 00:28:45,460 你看伊朗战争，阿富汗战争，它结束了吗？ terminated a war the Iraq war Afghanistan 1283 00:28:45,460 --> 00:28:47,520 你看伊朗战争，阿富汗战争，它结束了吗？ war is that finished no trade war I 1284 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:47,820 war is that finished no trade war I 1285 00:28:47,820 --> 00:28:49,990 没有！我相信一件事，当贸易停止时，战争就会开始 war is that finished no trade war I 1286 00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:53,500 没有！我相信一件事，当贸易停止时，战争就会开始 believe one thing when trade stops the 1287 00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:54,550 没有！我相信一件事，当贸易停止时，战争就会开始 war starts trade is something that 1288 00:28:54,550 --> 00:28:54,750 war starts trade is something that 1289 00:28:54,750 --> 00:28:56,740 贸易让人们开始沟通，大家交流文化和价值 war starts trade is something that 1290 00:28:56,740 --> 00:28:59,080 贸易让人们开始沟通，大家交流文化和价值 people start to communicate trade is 1291 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,000 贸易让人们开始沟通，大家交流文化和价值 something people exchange culture and 1292 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:01,570 贸易让人们开始沟通，大家交流文化和价值 Value and I will be happy if China USA 1293 00:29:01,570 --> 00:29:01,800 Value and I will be happy if China USA 1294 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,780 如果中美两个国达成一致，阿里巴巴的商业模式将被摧毁 Value and I will be happy if China USA 1295 00:29:04,780 --> 00:29:06,700 如果中美两个国达成一致，阿里巴巴的商业模式将被摧毁 agree on something and Alibaba business 1296 00:29:06,700 --> 00:29:08,200 如果中美两个国达成一致，阿里巴巴的商业模式将被摧毁 business model destroyed I will destroy 1297 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:08,550 business model destroyed I will destroy 1298 00:29:08,550 --> 00:29:09,700 如果是这样可以停滞贸易战的话，我也乐意去毁灭阿里巴巴 business model destroyed I will destroy 1299 00:29:09,700 --> 00:29:11,560 如果是这样可以停滞贸易战的话，我也乐意去毁灭阿里巴巴 Alibaba model by stopping the war 1300 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:12,250 如果是这样可以停滞贸易战的话，我也乐意去毁灭阿里巴巴 because how can you imagine the 1301 00:29:12,250 --> 00:29:14,410 你怎么能想象世界最大的经济体和世界第二大经济体有贸易战争 because how can you imagine the 1302 00:29:14,410 --> 00:29:16,720 你怎么能想象世界最大的经济体和世界第二大经济体有贸易战争 first largest economy of the world 1303 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,330 你怎么能想象世界最大的经济体和世界第二大经济体有贸易战争 second largest economy of the world have 1304 00:29:19,330 --> 00:29:19,950 你怎么能想象世界最大的经济体和世界第二大经济体有贸易战争 a trada war it's going to be a disaster 1305 00:29:19,950 --> 00:29:20,120 a trada war it's going to be a disaster 1306 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,760 这将是一场对世界的灾难 a trada war it's going to be a disaster 1307 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,450 这将是一场对世界的灾难 for two countries and for the world if 1308 00:29:23,450 --> 00:29:23,570 for two countries and for the world if 1309 00:29:23,570 --> 00:29:24,040 如果我们能够吧战争停下来 for two countries and for the world if 1310 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,870 如果我们能够吧战争停下来 we can anybody can do something to stop 1311 00:29:25,870 --> 00:29:26,200 如果我们能够吧战争停下来 it do anything to stop it 1312 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:26,320 it do anything to stop it 1313 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,720 我们应该做任何事情来组织它 it do anything to stop it 1314 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:27,850 it do anything to stop it 1315 00:29:27,850 --> 00:29:27,920 did you reaction to trump the 1316 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,430 你跟川普聊了台湾问题没？它什么反应？ did you reaction to trump the 1317 00:29:30,430 --> 00:29:32,170 你跟川普聊了台湾问题没？它什么反应？ situation with Taiwan and how he's 1318 00:29:32,170 --> 00:29:33,870 你跟川普聊了台湾问题没？它什么反应？ thinking about that well Taiwan I think 1319 00:29:33,870 --> 00:29:33,900 thinking about that well Taiwan I think 1320 00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:35,650 台湾，跟政府无关，跟商业无关 thinking about that well Taiwan I think 1321 00:29:35,650 --> 00:29:38,250 台湾，跟政府无关，跟商业无关 this is this is not the something about 1322 00:29:38,250 --> 00:29:41,380 台湾，跟政府无关，跟商业无关 government this is not something about 1323 00:29:41,380 --> 00:29:41,800 台湾，跟政府无关，跟商业无关 business this is something about people 1324 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:41,820 跟人有关 business this is something about people 1325 00:29:41,820 --> 00:29:42,970 跟人有关 business this is something about people 1326 00:29:42,970 --> 00:29:43,450 跟人有关 if the taiwan issue is the population 1327 00:29:43,450 --> 00:29:43,720 if the taiwan issue is the population 1328 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,970 台湾问题 你是与十四亿人作对 if the taiwan issue is the population 1329 00:29:45,970 --> 00:29:49,090 台湾问题 你是与十四亿人作对 if you do taiwan issue it like against 1.4 1330 00:29:49,090 --> 00:29:50,150 台湾问题 你是与十四亿人作对 billion people so this is another issue 1331 00:29:50,150 --> 00:29:50,170 billion people so this is another issue 1332 00:29:50,170 --> 00:29:51,960 这是两个问题 我们讨论贸易 不讨论台湾 billion people so this is another issue 1333 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,790 这是两个问题 我们讨论贸易 不讨论台湾 so we're talking about trade we're not 1334 00:29:54,790 --> 00:29:56,250 这是两个问题 我们讨论贸易 不讨论台湾 talking about Taiwan very politic let's 1335 00:29:56,250 --> 00:29:56,770 talking about Taiwan very politic let's 1336 00:29:56,770 --> 00:29:58,630 如果有可能的话 我们再问一个问题 talking about Taiwan very politic let's 1337 00:29:58,630 --> 00:30:00,340 如果有可能的话 我们再问一个问题 take one final question if we can I 1338 00:30:00,340 --> 00:30:01,670 如果有可能的话 我们再问一个问题 think we can still one we're in yes 1339 00:30:01,670 --> 00:30:03,040 think we can still one we're in yes 1340 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:03,670 there right there 1341 00:30:03,670 --> 00:30:04,600 I'm not politicion 1342 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:05,890 你如何确定自己没有在搞乱别人的生活 I'm not politicion 1343 00:30:05,890 --> 00:30:09,070 你如何确定自己没有在搞乱别人的生活 how do you assure you are 1344 00:30:09,070 --> 00:30:11,650 你如何确定自己没有在搞乱别人的生活 not messing up these people's life and 1345 00:30:11,650 --> 00:30:11,680 not messing up these people's life and 1346 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:11,870 you are not dictating the whole you know 1347 00:30:11,870 --> 00:30:14,410 你不是在对人们的信誉进行独裁 you are not dictating the whole you know 1348 00:30:14,410 --> 00:30:16,900 你不是在对人们的信誉进行独裁 credit Kingdom over the system because 1349 00:30:16,900 --> 00:30:17,000 credit Kingdom over the system because 1350 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:17,410 因为你决定了规则 credit Kingdom over the system because 1351 00:30:17,410 --> 00:30:19,780 因为你决定了规则 now you are the decision-makers you are 1352 00:30:19,780 --> 00:30:20,650 因为你决定了规则 the rule makers okay first I'm not sure 1353 00:30:20,650 --> 00:30:21,700 the rule makers okay first I'm not sure 1354 00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:22,990 首先我不确定，这是一个不确定的世界 the rule makers okay first I'm not sure 1355 00:30:22,990 --> 00:30:25,970 首先我不确定，这是一个不确定的世界 people say Oh this is uncertain 1356 00:30:25,970 --> 00:30:26,750 首先我不确定，这是一个不确定的世界 world everyday is uncertain the only 1357 00:30:26,750 --> 00:30:27,000 world everyday is uncertain the only 1358 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,510 每一天都不确定，唯一能确定的是昨天 world everyday is uncertain the only 1359 00:30:29,510 --> 00:30:31,220 每一天都不确定，唯一能确定的是昨天 certain day was yesterday 1360 00:30:31,220 --> 00:30:31,360 certain day was yesterday 1361 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:31,570 I'm not sure about that in the future 1362 00:30:31,570 --> 00:30:35,000 我不知道我会不会变独裁，或者很愚蠢 I'm not sure about that in the future 1363 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,130 我不知道我会不会变独裁，或者很愚蠢 I would dictate I would be stupid 1364 00:30:37,130 --> 00:30:37,220 我不知道我会不会变独裁，或者很愚蠢 that's why I should retire early when 1365 00:30:37,220 --> 00:30:37,400 that's why I should retire early when 1366 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,310 这就是为什么我认为我应该年轻时就退休 that's why I should retire early when 1367 00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:40,940 这就是为什么我认为我应该年轻时就退休 I'm young 1368 00:30:40,940 --> 00:30:40,950 这就是为什么我认为我应该年轻时就退休 that is why I have a lot of things that 1369 00:30:40,950 --> 00:30:41,120 that is why I have a lot of things that 1370 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,280 我有很多事情想做，我想做慈善，想做老师，想做环保 that is why I have a lot of things that 1371 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,810 我有很多事情想做，我想做慈善，想做老师，想做环保 to dream I want to do I want to philanthropic 1372 00:30:44,810 --> 00:30:46,420 我有很多事情想做，我想做慈善，想做老师，想做环保 I want to be a teacher I want to 1373 00:30:46,420 --> 00:30:48,040 我有很多事情想做，我想做慈善，想做老师，想做环保 go back to school I want to do the 1374 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:48,520 我有很多事情想做，我想做慈善，想做老师，想做环保 environment and the world is so 1375 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:48,720 environment and the world is so 1376 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,510 世界如此美好，我为什么总是要作为阿里巴巴的集团CEO environment and the world is so 1377 00:30:50,510 --> 00:30:52,190 世界如此美好，我为什么总是要作为阿里巴巴的集团CEO wonderful why you should be the CEO 1378 00:30:52,190 --> 00:30:53,470 世界如此美好，我为什么总是要作为阿里巴巴的集团CEO for Alibaba all the time I'm coming to this 1379 00:30:53,470 --> 00:30:53,600 for Alibaba all the time I'm coming to this 1380 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,250 我来到世界不是为了工作，而是来这个世界享受我的人生 for Alibaba all the time I'm coming to this 1381 00:30:55,250 --> 00:30:58,660 我来到世界不是为了工作，而是来这个世界享受我的人生 world not to work I want to come to this world 1382 00:30:58,660 --> 00:30:59,720 我来到世界不是为了工作，而是来这个世界享受我的人生 to enjoy my life I don't want to 1383 00:30:59,720 --> 00:30:59,820 to enjoy my life I don't want to 1384 00:30:59,820 --> 00:31:00,520 我不想死在办公室，而是在阳光沙滩上 to enjoy my life I don't want to 1385 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,150 我不想死在办公室，而是在阳光沙滩上 die my office I want to die on the 1386 00:31:02,150 --> 00:31:02,600 我不想死在办公室，而是在阳光沙滩上 beaches it's a wonderful message Jack Ma 1387 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,920 beaches it's a wonderful message Jack Ma 1388 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:06,600 thank you for the Conversation well can I say one last please 1389 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,270 我可以最后谈几句吗？ thank you for the Conversation well can I say one last please 1390 00:31:09,270 --> 00:31:09,350 我可以最后谈几句吗？ I just want to give my last advice to any people 1391 00:31:09,350 --> 00:31:09,550 I just want to give my last advice to any people 1392 00:31:09,550 --> 00:31:11,960 所有政府都需要注意-未来30年对世界而言很重要 I just want to give my last advice to any people 1393 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,900 所有政府都需要注意-未来30年对世界而言很重要 here that every government should pay 1394 00:31:13,900 --> 00:31:16,900 所有政府都需要注意-未来30年对世界而言很重要 attention to in the next 30 years a 1395 00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:18,270 所有政府都需要注意-未来30年对世界而言很重要 critical for the world every 1396 00:31:18,270 --> 00:31:18,900 critical for the world every 1397 00:31:18,900 --> 00:31:20,090 每次科技革命都需要50年，前20年科技公司出现，后30年科技得以应用 critical for the world every 1398 00:31:20,090 --> 00:31:21,770 每次科技革命都需要50年，前20年科技公司出现，后30年科技得以应用 technical revolution takes by 1399 00:31:21,770 --> 00:31:24,320 每次科技革命都需要50年，前20年科技公司出现，后30年科技得以应用 50 years the first 20 years technology 1400 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,990 每次科技革命都需要50年，前20年科技公司出现，后30年科技得以应用 company next 30 years the application 1401 00:31:26,990 --> 00:31:28,500 每次科技革命都需要50年，前20年科技公司出现，后30年科技得以应用 of the technology focus on next 30 1402 00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:28,850 of the technology focus on next 30 1403 00:31:28,850 --> 00:31:30,950 所以让我们关注未来30年 of the technology focus on next 30 1404 00:31:30,950 --> 00:31:31,400 所以让我们关注未来30年 years the first 20 years eBay Amazon 1405 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:31,500 years the first 20 years eBay Amazon 1406 00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:33,970 在此前的20年中出现了ebay、亚马逊、facebook，阿里巴巴，google years the first 20 years eBay Amazon 1407 00:31:33,970 --> 00:31:37,370 在此前的20年中出现了ebay、亚马逊、facebook，阿里巴巴，google Facebook Alibaba Google good the most 1408 00:31:37,370 --> 00:31:39,020 很好但最重要的是让科技更具有包容性 Facebook Alibaba Google good the most 1409 00:31:39,020 --> 00:31:41,000 很好但最重要的是让科技更具有包容性 important is that make the technology 1410 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,470 很好但最重要的是让科技更具有包容性 inclusive make the world change this 30 1411 00:31:42,470 --> 00:31:42,870 inclusive make the world change this 30 1412 00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:43,900 这就是未来三十年 inclusive make the world change this 30 1413 00:31:43,900 --> 00:31:44,700 这就是未来三十年 years next pay attention to those people 1414 00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:44,800 years next pay attention to those people 1415 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,580 让我们留意那些30岁的人们，因为他们是互联网时代 years next pay attention to those people 1416 00:31:46,580 --> 00:31:49,820 让我们留意那些30岁的人们，因为他们是互联网时代 who are 30 years old because those are 1417 00:31:49,820 --> 00:31:51,380 让我们留意那些30岁的人们，因为他们是互联网时代 the international generation internet 1418 00:31:51,380 --> 00:31:52,050 让我们留意那些30岁的人们，因为他们是互联网时代 generation they will change the world 1419 00:31:52,050 --> 00:31:52,120 generation they will change the world 1420 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,840 他们会改变世界、会成为世界的建造者 generation they will change the world 1421 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,570 他们会改变世界、会成为世界的建造者 they are the builder of the world third 1422 00:31:56,570 --> 00:31:56,620 他们会改变世界、会成为世界的建造者 let's pay attention to the company 1423 00:31:56,620 --> 00:31:56,650 let's pay attention to the company 1424 00:31:56,650 --> 00:31:59,410 第三，让我们留意那些雇员可能尚不足30人 let's pay attention to the company 1425 00:31:59,410 --> 00:32:01,820 第三，让我们留意那些雇员可能尚不足30人 who have fewer that 30 1426 00:32:01,820 --> 00:32:02,500 第三，让我们留意那些雇员可能尚不足30人 employees so 30 years and 30 years old 1427 00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:02,950 employees so 30 years and 30 years old 1428 00:32:02,950 --> 00:32:06,830 未来三十年，30岁的人们，30人组成的企业，将会让世界变得更好！ employees so 30 years and 30 years old 1429 00:32:06,830 --> 00:32:10,190 未来三十年，30岁的人们，30人组成的企业，将会让世界变得更好！ and 30 employees that would can make the 1430 00:32:10,190 --> 00:32:11,170 未来三十年，30岁的人们，30人组成的企业，将会让世界变得更好！ world much better Jack Ma thank you very 1431 00:32:11,170 --> 00:32:11,470 world much better Jack Ma thank you very 1432 00:32:11,470 --> 00:32:12,650 马云 非常感谢 world much better Jack Ma thank you very 1433 00:32:12,650 --> 00:32:14,450 马云 非常感谢 very much thank you thank you thank you 1434 00:32:14,450 --> 00:32:16,520 very much thank you thank you thank you 1435 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:21,360 [Applause]