本周Vice This week on "Vice"...
我们在叙利亚北部与基地组织的新敌人见面 We meet Al Qaeda's new enemy in Northern Syria.
我们会阻止所有的敌人 直到库尔德斯坦获得自由
然后是亚洲对犀牛角惊人的需求 Then, Asia's devastating demand for rhino horn.
在这我们就像坐在火药桶上 We're sitting on a powder keg here.
我把这东西贩卖给有钱有势的人们
一块是11500美金
把照相机移开 Move that camera, eh?
所以这里曾是基地组织吗 So that was where the... Al Qaeda?
他的头 那是他的头吗 His brain? That's his brain?
我们带了这些隐形摄像机 We brought these hidden camera glasses.
我们准备去买些犀牛角 We're about to go try to buy some rhino horn.
@注释（肖恩 史密斯 VICE创始人）近年来 叙利亚不间断的战事 The story of the ongoing war in Syria
已经在全球新闻媒介中 has been dominating the global news media
占据着最重要的位置 for the past few years.
正如被广泛报导的那样 As has been widely reported,
阿萨德政府试图镇压 the Assad regime has been attempting
不仅限于西方支持的叙利亚自由军 to put down not only the Western-backed Free Syrian Army,
还有日益增多的试图夺得地区支配权的 but also, increasingly, militias of hardcore Islamic jihadists
伊斯兰教圣战分子的中坚民兵组织 that have been trying to gain control of the region.
而在这一团糟的战事中 What hasn't been so widely reported
还未被广泛报导的 in the midst of all this chaos, though,
则是库尔德人 is that the Kurds, an ethnic group
一个主宰着叙利亚东北部的部落族群 that dominates the northeastern part of Syria,
近期宣布拥有完全自主权 have recently declared complete autonomy
并开始保卫他们新宣告的领土 and have started to defend their newly proclaimed territory
从阿萨德政府和伊斯兰激进分子手中争夺 from both the Assad regime and the Islamic militants.
所以 我们派托马斯莫顿与被称为人民保卫组织的 So, we sent Thomas Morton to meet with the Kurdish militia,
库尔德民兵组织见面 known as the People's Protection Units, or the YPG,
来看看叙利亚北部 to see what's happening on the front lines
激烈的内战前线上正在发生什么 of the other civil war that is raging in northern Syria.
@注释（托马斯莫顿 VICE通讯记者）嗨 我是托马斯 Hi. It's Thomas. I'm in
我正在叙利亚库尔德地区（到这里） the Kurdish part of Syria
和库尔德人民保卫组织的战士们在一起 with the fighters of the YPG,
他们正在尽一切努力 who are doing their best
使库尔德地区 to make this Kurdish land
成为库尔德国 a Kurdish country.
字幕
库尔德人是一个中东的部落组织 The Kurds are an ethnic group from the Middle East
他们与阿拉伯大众区分开来 who set themselves apart from the Arab majority
通过不断进步的政治 女权 by being into progressive politics, women's rights,
并试着让他们的国家 库尔德斯坦 and trying to turn their own country, Kurdistan,
变成长久亲西方的民主国家 into a secular, pro-Western democracy.
不幸的是 库尔德人实际上还没有他们的国家 Unfortunately, the Kurds don't have their own country...
至少现在还没 因为如果有的话 at least not yet, because if they did,
这里就已经是了 it would be right here.
库尔德西部的国土就在叙利亚 The Western part of the Kurdish homeland is in Syria...
三年内战 超过十万人死亡 where 3 years of civil war left over 100,000 dead
七百万人流离失所 and 7 million displaced from their homes.
这时 平民主义者开始起义了 What started as a populist uprising
当叙利亚自由军队反抗阿萨德政府的压迫 by the Free Syrian Army against the oppressive Assad regime
演变成日益混乱 has devolved into an increasingly messy
与复杂的战斗时 and complex fight,
平民主义者成为横跨叙利亚 drawing in new factions from across Syria
与整个中东的新势力 and the entire Middle East.
当这个国家其他地区分崩离析时 While the rest of the country falls apart,
叙利亚库尔德已经控制了他们自己的地区 Syria's Kurds have taken control of their part
并把它变成 and made it into an island of
相对稳定与独立的岛屿 relative stability and independence.
而今阻挡他们完成 Now all that stands in the way of achieving
库尔德家园梦的 their dream of a Kurdish homeland...
是阿萨德政府余党 is the remnants of the Assad regime...
以及新一轮激进的圣战分子 and a whole new wave of militant jihadi fighters
在他们边界不断镇压 pressing down on their borders.
而今还有三千万库尔德人存活着 There are 30 million Kurds alive today,
这让他们成为世界上最大的无国家群体 making them the biggest stateless group in the world.
David Phillips是哥伦比亚大学研究所 David Phillips is director of Columbia's
研究人权的所长 Institute for the Study of Human Rights
也是研究库尔德人的专家 and an expert on the Kurdish people.
库尔德人建国的强烈愿望被否定 The Kurds' national aspirations have been denied.
世上并没有叫做库尔德斯坦的国家 There is no state called Kurdistan.
九十年代第一次海湾战争时 During the First Gulf War in the nineties,
库尔德人就有能力把他们与 the Kurds were able to carve out
萨达姆执政时的伊拉克分离出来 a space for themselves from Saddam's Iraq,
使他们成为拥有自治权 which they turned into a self-governing,
明确独立自主的库尔德迷你国家 functionally independent Kurdish mini-state.
在伊拉克的库尔德人渴望拥有 The Kurds of Iraq aspire to having
一个民主的伊拉克联邦共和国 a democratic federal republic of Iraq
并在库尔德地区拥有自主权 with autonomy in the Kurdish areas
他们有能力得以实现这个目标 and they've pretty much been able to achieve that goal.
伊拉克库尔德斯坦是一个独立的世界 Iraqi Kurdistan is a world unto itself.
而今叙利亚其余地区也面临同样的情况 Now with similar conditions in the rest of Syria,
叙利亚的库尔德人又一次利用喧闹 Syria's Kurds are again making use of the tumult
来提高他们对这个地区的掌控 to shore up control of their part of the country
或许还能在此过程中达到建国的目的 and maybe make it its own country in the process.
当叙利亚变得难以管理时 As Syria becomes unmanageable,
将会有一些由当地民兵组织 we're gonna see statelets emerging
管理的小国从中独立出来 that are run by local militias,
而叙利亚的库尔德地区就将会是其中一个 and one of those will be in the Kurdish regions of Syria.
叙利亚库尔德人想要拥有与伊拉克库尔德人 The Kurds of Syria want to have the same kind of self-rule
同样的自治权 as the Iraqi Kurds have in Iraq.
我们正在等一些士兵 We're just waiting on some soldiers to, uh,
带我们穿过这条大河 usher us across this mighty river
然后我们就能到因战事而千疮百孔的叙利亚 and then we will be in war-torn Syria.
到了 我们的欢迎会 Here we are. So, our welcoming party,
由三个伙计 一个男孩 和一台拖拉机 which appears to be 3 guys, a boy, and a tractor,
还有一个库尔德人民保卫组织成员组成 um, also includes a YPG van.
这些人都要与 These guys are the guys fighting, um,
所有来犯的疯狂圣战分子和极端主义者 all the crazy jihadists and extremists who've come
在政府与反对党战斗后 in in the vacuum created by the fight between, uh,
创造的真空地带作斗争 the regime and its opposition.
这就是战线 So, this is the front.
你只能勉强看见 但其实在地平线那边 You can barely see it but there's another village
有另一个被Al-Nusra控制的村庄 right on the horizon and that's controlled by Al-Nusra.
Al-Nusra是一个与基地组织类似的伊斯兰派系 It's an Islamist faction similar to Al Qaeda.
是叫我走快点吗 Come quickly?
哦 狙击手 Ah, snipers.
不错的开阔场地 Pretty open area.
他们就在那吗 嗯 That's where they are? OK.
好 Ok.
这个村庄已经满目苍夷 This village is not in good shape.
@补充（他们用迫击炮袭击了这个地方 少数几个妇女存活了下来）
@补充（但是当他们抵进这里时，杀了200多号人）
@补充（许多人被活活烧死之后 尸体就被遗弃在这里）
@补充（那是努斯拉阵线士兵的）你怎么知道 哦，因为那个 How can you tell? Oh, because of that.
所以 那些努斯拉阵线士兵 So, the Al-Nusra fighters who come over
都穿一身黑 这可以说是 像一种 军服一样 all wear black, as opposed to, like, military fatigues.
@补充（他们全都着黑色衣服）这些衣服就像平时的便服 These are, like, street clothes.
那些士兵戴着可怕的窃贼面巾 With creepy burglar masks over them.
嗯哼 是啊 Mm-hmm. Yeah.
@补充（他们以前就驻扎在这里）
你们开展这个小型军事行动的目的是什么 What's your goal with this little operation?
只是在这里占据这个山丘 Are you guys just here to kind of hold this hill
控制这个小镇 还是计划着从他们手中 and hold this town or do you plan to
夺走越来越多的领地 try to take more and more space away from them?
@补充（我们想要他们离开我们的土地）
@补充（他们才是入侵者 而不是我们）
你认为你们会建立起库尔德斯坦独立国吗 Do you think you'll ever have a Kurdish state?
@补充（如果我们不相信 就不会一直坚持战斗了）
@补充（我们的目的不仅仅只是寻求南库尔德斯坦的自治（即叙利亚部分））
@补充（而是整个库尔德斯坦的独立）
所以 当这些伙计做着这样一项 So while these guys are doing, you know,
一项 光荣的工作 kind of the, the glory work
即建立库尔德斯坦 与此同时 如果要创建一个国家 他们还需要做很多比杀死 in building Kurdistan, there's a lot more than
阿拉伯人更必要的事情 killing Arabs that goes into making a country.
你需要经济 需要政府 You need an economy, you need government,
需要建立基础设施 学校 you need infrastructure, you need schools
邮局 还有类似种种 and post offices, and stuff like that.
我们现在要回到小镇 We're going to go back into town
去看看 嗯 那个 嗯 and see what, uh, the, uh,
让YPG 为之效力的 political organization that supports the YPG
政治组织 is doing to meet those needs.
事实证明有很多 Turns out a lot!
自从这场战争引起阿萨德政权的注意后 Since the fighting drew the Assad regime's attention
库尔德的民众便不再受他们制服 away from subjugating the Kurds,
到现在 库尔德人已经自己制造机动车牌照 they've established their own DMV for Kurdish licenses,
接管了原属阿萨德政府的监狱 taken over Assad-era prisons
并在那儿关押了常规的 非政治性囚犯 and filled them with regular, non-political prisoners,
采集并精炼燃油 为自己所用 are pumping and refining their own fuel
建立了一个成熟的现代化国家所需的所有必备设施 all the fixings of a full-blown modern country.
他们还设立国内警察机关 They've also set up their own internal police force,
包括女警官 including armed female officers.
是的 女警官 That's right... female.
现在 库尔德人对女性较之以前 有很大的改观 比如 The Kurds' stance on women goes way past, like,
允许她们驾车并拥有选举权 letting them drive and letting them vote.
他们非常看重两性平等问题 They're, you know, very big on gender equality
库尔德的女性 to the point that they have females
可以在战场上和男性并肩作战 fighting alongside men in their army and, um, this is, you know,
在这点上 叙利亚的其它地区 难以望其项背 a very far cry from the rest of the region.
现在 我们来到了YPJ We're at a YPJ base right now,
它是YPG的女子附属机构 which is the women's auxiliary of the YPG,
我们刚才在战场看到的那些人就属于这里 who are the guys we've been seeing out fighting.
@补充（大家好）（您好）
@补充（稍息）
@补充（立正）(稍息)（立正）
作为一个女人 How different was life like as a woman,
生活在政府的庇护下 back during the regime
和现在这种受YPG各种管制的生活 有什么不同呢 than it is now that the YPG controls everything?
@补充（过去 女人就像奴隶一样 受到各种压迫）
@补充（被告知只能呆在家里 服侍自己的丈夫）
@补充（而在YPG 我知道了女人值得拥有更多）
@补充（还要去争取自己的应有权利）
你第一次持枪是什么感受？ What did it feel like the first time you held a gun?
@补充（我感觉自己是自由的 我能解放我们的人民）
实际上 在这里 库尔德人为人所熟知的 Kurds are actually known throughout the region
是它的女兵 for, um, their female fighters.
嗯 我一直有个疑问 Uh, one question I've always had, though,
这些女兵到底有多少是真正上到前线 is how many of these women actually go to the front lines
投入实战的呢 and see active combat.
我们现在正朝着战场而去 We're going to head to the battlefield
一个叫艾因角的地方 a place called Ras al-Ayn...
在那儿 库尔德人一直同基地组织在战斗 where the Kurds are fighting off with Al Qaeda.
我想 我们可以在那里找到一些女兵 I guess we'll look for some women there.
我们刚刚通过了最后一个检查点 We just clear the last checkpoint.
现在 跟随这些士兵回到前线去 We're now with soldiers going back to the front line.
这是库尔德的最终领地 前方就是叙利亚阿拉伯领地 This is the last stop before Arab-controlled Syria.
你好 所以 她们是在真正的战斗 Girls. So, they do actually fight.
太不可思议了 她们是真正的战士 This is amazing. These are actual fighters.
@补充（把头低下）
你在这战斗多久了 How long have you been fighting here?
@补充（一星期）
这是你参加过的最艰难的一次战斗吗 This is the hardest fighting you've done?
@补充（是的 确实很艰难 但我们还是赢了）
@补充（我们的财产被摧毁了）
@补充（这是难以容忍的）
@补充（我们不喜欢外人入侵我们的土地）（我们要在这里居住）
我们通常认为 I think the common expectation is that
没有任何女孩想去当一名战士 any girl igoing to be a soldier,
她必须要尽可能的让自己男性化 she's going to try to, like, butch up
强壮起来 and make herself as masculine as possible,
但是女人本就是很女性化的 but these girls are very, you know, feminine.
她们是士兵 但同时也是女人 They are women who are soldiers, too.
身兼两种身份 They don't give that up.
也许我从根本上 And maybe I'm a sexist asshole
就是一个性别歧视的混蛋吧 for not thinking about that in the first place.
卧槽 卧槽 Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck,
我去 我去 fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.
我被吓尿了 That scared the shit out of me.
库尔德赋予女人应有的权利 The Kurds' gusto for women's rights
不仅仅让它在阿拉伯世界鹤立鸡群 doesn't just put them at odds with the rest of the Arab world.
给予女性同等的社会地位 Giving women an equal role in their society
并为基地组织所知 put them on Al Qaeda's radar,
这也许也是圣战分子对库尔德集中火力 and is one of the major reasons jihadists have begun
的主要原因之一 focusing their attacks on the Kurds.
近来 很多圣战组织 What's happened recently is that
包括努斯拉阵线 jihadi groups including the Al-Nusra front
都出现在了战场上 have emerged in the battlefield.
所以 在叙利亚的库尔德人越来越腹背受敌 Increasingly, the Kurds of Syria have been targeted.
叙利亚反对派武装组织发出指令声称 Al-Nusra issued a fatwa saying that
杀害库尔德人的妇孺是合理的 it was permissible to kill Kurdish women and children.
该指令发布到了很多区域 The fatwa was issued in large part
它们借力于叙利亚的库尔德人群体中的 because of the pro-Western orientation
反西方组织 of the Kurds of Syria.
一夜之间我们看见了两万多名叙利亚的库尔德人 We saw overnight 20,000 Syrian Kurds
横穿过河奔向伊拉克的库尔德斯坦区 crossing the river into Iraqi Kurdistan
因为他们知道这次恐吓是认真的 because they know that this is a real menace.
@(在哪里)
@(基地组织在哪儿呢)
@(他们在那儿 那边呢)
@(我们打他们 然后他们就跑了)
@(匿名)(人民保护联盟)(那天晚上非常黑 我们看不清楚)
@(但是我们杀掉了他们的一部分人)
@(他们有些人的尸体还在这儿呢)
现在我觉得他们被带去看了 Now I think we are being taken to see
一名基地组织成员的尸体 the body of an Al Qaeda fighter.
及时是在这边 那种味道都十分强烈 And the smell, even from here, is intense.
噢 他们把他埋了吗 Oh, it's buried?
他们是在那儿杀掉他的 They killed him over there?
这堵墙边 Against the wall?
我知道了 就在这里 I see. Right here?
噢 是的 Oh, yeah.
哦 哦 天啊 Oh. Oh, wow.
这味儿真难闻 嗯 That smells really bad. Um...
所以 那就是 呃 基地组织的地方 So, that was where the... Al Qaeda?
他的脑袋 那就’他的脑袋 好吧 His brain? That's his brain? OK.
@(你是美国人吧)
@(要是给他们抓到你 他们会砍掉你的头)
明白了他们的言外之意 因为我认为 Figure out what they're saying because I think
有些事情可能 嗯 可能会闹大 something might be, uh, might be an issue.
喔喔喔喔喔 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
喔 什么 什么鬼 Whoa, what? What?
@(刚才有一颗子弹嗖一下从咱脑袋顶上灰过去了)
-真的 怎么回事 -你看 咱们走吧 - Really? What? - MAN: OK, let's go.
我擦 你认真的 Are you serious? Fuck.
哥们儿 就是那个声音啊对不对 Dude. That's exactly what that sound was, wasn't it?
就是那种一颗子弹径直 Somehow a bullet makes it all the way
从村子另一头传过来 through the village from the other side
从我们上方灰过去的声音 and whizzes past our heads.
我现在要准备离开这儿了 I'm about ready to get out of here now.
除却对战争的恐惧 Despite the horrors of war,
还有必须要在基地组织的不断侵袭下 and having to hold their border
守护领土的重任 against constant attack by Al Qaeda,
库尔德和叙利亚人民所做的选择 the Kurds of Syria are actually doing
实际上是很正确的 pretty all right for themselves.
如果叙利亚分崩离析 那么你便有机会 If Syria falls apart, then there's the chance
看到伊拉克籍的库尔德人 that you're going to see Iraqi Kurdistan
还有叙利亚籍库尔德人 and the Kurds of Syria
加入到某种联盟组织中去 joining in some kind of confederation,
甚至以领土为单位组织团队 maybe even a territorial unit.
随着叙利亚的其他地区 While the rest of Syria becomes
愈发不像一个真正的国家 less and less of a real country every day,
他们会把他们的非国家地域 they've turned their non-country
组成一个崭新的国家 into the realest country in the area:
完完全全属于库尔德人的领土 their own private Kurdistan.
全世界都在处理着一场前所未有的 The world is dealing with an unprecedented spike
非法猎杀野生动物的邪恶事件 in illegal wildlife trade,
预计它会在全球产生十一美元的损失 which is estimated to be worth as much as $10 billion globally.
有组织的黑暗财阀控制着这场交易 Organized crime syndicates control the trade
他们用贩卖毒品的走私网络 and use networks originally developed for drug smuggling
来在全球运输动物器官 to transport animal parts around the globe.
其中最为受欢迎的是 Some of the most popular illegal items
老虎和金钱豹的皮毛 are tiger and leopard pelts,
海龟壳 当然 还有象牙 sea turtle shells, and, of course, elephant ivory.
然而 这些都不如黑市中最受瞩目的货物 But those are nothing compared to the most desired
即犀牛角 black market product of all, which is rhino horn.
由于它在亚洲的需求量上涨 Because of rising demand from Asia,
它已经成为了世界上最昂贵的 it has become one of the most valuable
非法货物 illegal commodities on Earth.
同样是走私货物 它比黑市上得主流货物 Pound for pound, it's now worth more than
诸如黄金和可卡因等值钱得多 such black market staples as gold and cocaine.
结果 自2007年以来 As a result, since 2007,
犀牛的猎杀数已经增长了超过百分之七 there's been an over 7,000% increase in rhino killings
这个数字还只是在南非 in South Africa alone.
简而言之 犀牛正逐渐消失 Simply put, the rhino is disappearing.
于是我们派Vikram Gandhi前往非洲 So, we sent Vikram Gandhi to Africa
去调查犀牛在我们现代社会 to investigate the perilous state
岌岌可危的生存现状 of rhinos in our modern age.
@(白金)
@(斯坦利和列文斯顿的禁猎区 维多利亚瀑布 赞比亚)津巴布韦是 GANDHI: Zimbabwe is the front line of the conflict
狩猎非洲犀牛的重灾区 raging over Africa's rhino.
这里的野生动物面临着偷猎者的巨大威胁 The wildlife here is under constant threat from poachers.
在我们到达的第二天 我们在早晨五点三十分 On our second day here, we were woken up at 5:30 in the morning
伴随着枪声醒来了 by the sound of a gunshot.
所以 朋友们你们刚刚听到了第二声枪响 So, the guys have just heard a second gunshot.
我们在去另一个营地的路上 We're on our way over to the other camp.
你觉得这附近会有偷猎者吗 Do you think there are poachers over there?
哥们儿 我不确定 我们可以清楚知道的是 Mate, I can't be sure. One thing we do know
这是重型来复枪 is it's a heavy caliber rifle.
我们这片区域有犀牛和大象 We got rhino and elephant in the area
哥们儿 我们得快点离开这边 and we need to get over there, mate,
过去看看到底怎么回事 and check out what's going on.
查理一号 查理一号 我是Delta Mike Charlie one, Charlie one, this is Delta Mike.
确认我们有两队人马 Confirmed we have two sets of tracks
沿着南部边界向北驶去 moving north along the southern perimeter.
我想知道那个弹药筒是干嘛的 好吗 I want to know what that fuckin' cartridge was used for, OK?
如果有血迹 如果有死亡的动物 If there's any blood, if there's a dead animal.
我们刚刚找到一架30-06温彻斯特枪筒 子弹已经用光了 We've just located a 30-06 Winchester cartridge. It's been spent.
它打的是神马呢 What can that shoot down?
如果放对了位置 它可以放到一头大象 That can take down an elephant if it's put in the right place.
犀牛 水牛 狮子 任何他们想要的 A rhino, buffalo, lion, whatever they want.
清理整个区域 MANDER: Sweep the whole area.
我们找不到任何偷猎者的踪迹 所以 We couldn't find any poachers, so,
喔确信他们开的那一枪没成功 I'm pretty sure they fired the shots, didn't succeed.
如果他们成功了 If they had succeeded, we would have seen
我们会看见在尸体上方盘旋的秃鹫 vultures in the air by now circling a carcass.
你看 这真让人失望 It's really frustrating. You know,
这种事情表明了 this sort of stuff demonstrates that
保护犀牛不是一项科学实验 而是一场战斗 conservation isn't a scientific experiment, it's a war.
Damien Mander是一位伊拉克战争老兵 Damien Mander is an Iraq War vet
他来到非洲打击非法狩猎 who's come to Africa to fight poaching.
退 Back.
这些是什么种类的犀牛 What kind of rhinos are these?
这些是黑犀 These are black rhino and
他们已经被列为极度濒危的动物了 they're listed as critically endangered.
现在仅存4800头黑犀了 We're down to 4,800 black rhino
白犀还有大约20000头 and there's about 20,000 white rhinoceros, uh, left.
那还有多少 在津巴布韦这片区域中还有多少呢 And how many are... in this part of Zimbabwe are left?
我们有7头黑犀在这片保护区 We've got 7 black rhino left on this reserve.
沿路下去就是离我们最近的一个保护区 The nearest reserve to us just down the road,
他们那里的黑犀数量在很短的时间内 their black rhino population has gone from
从76头下降到了6头 76 down to 6 in a short space of time.
呃 所以说我们现在的情况很不稳定 Uh, so we're sitting on a powder keg here.
随着犀牛角价格的上升 The threat to the rhino has increased
犀牛生存面临的威胁也在增加 as the price of horn has gone up.
黑市的犀牛角价格据说已经 The street value of rhino horn has been quoted as
高达一公斤75000美元 up to $75,000 U.S. A kilogram.
而现在 想要从一只犀牛那取10公斤的角 Now, it's not uncommon to be able to take up to
并不罕见 10 kilos from one animal.
偷猎者们直接到这里来 Poachers who are actually going out there
猎杀犀牛 and killing the rhino
每公斤能赚5000美元 are being paid up to $5,000 a kilogram.
直接付现 一手交钱 Cash, straight in their hand
一手交货 for getting the job done.
我们就近期交易量上升的问题 We spoke to Crawford Allan, director of Traffic,
采访了Crawford Allan 野生动植物贸易监测网 the wildlife trade monitoring network,
Traffic的主管【Traffic翻译不确定】 about the recent escalation.
偷猎者进入保护区 用兽医用枪射击 There's poachers coming and using veterinary guns,
这种枪是一种消音飞镖枪 控制住犀牛后 which are silent dart guns, to tranquilize the rhinos,
就把牛角从吻部砍掉 hack off the horn from their face,
然后趁着夜色 悄无声息地飞离 and fly out again under cover of darkness and not be detected.
被这样砍掉牛角的犀牛多数残废但还活着 The rhino are often left mutilated but alive,
只是也撑不了太久了 although they rarely survive long.
从2007年的数据来看 When you see that in 2007,
那一年在南部非洲有13头犀牛被非法捕猎 there were 13 rhinos poached in that year in southern Africa
然而就今年一年 已经有超过800头犀牛被猎 and this year alone, there's over 800 rhinos poached,
这一悲观的趋势说明了 it's a very sad trajectory that just shows
非法狩猎数量的急剧上升 this incremental surge of poaching going on.
猎杀数量上升背后的原因 The reason why there's been more killings
在于犀牛角价格的急剧上升 is because the price is rising sharply.
而为什么牛角价格会上升呢 Why is it rising?
原因在于其在亚洲需求量的大幅增加 Because of the massive increase in demand from Asia.
我们跟随着犀牛角交易的足迹来到了这里 越南 河内 We followed the trail of rhino horn here, to Hanoi, Vietnam.
很明显 这里就是购买和使用犀牛角人数 Apparently, this is where the most buyers and users
最多的地方 of rhino horn are.
至于他们究竟为什么要使用犀牛角 现在还不清楚 What they're using it for, exactly, is unclear.
所以我们要一探究竟 So, we're here to find out.
我现在要去见一位当地的记者 Hoang【与画面不匹配】 I'm about to go meet a local journalist named Hoang,
在这座城市中他算是研究犀牛角交易 who is kind of the expert in this town
方面的专家 on the rhino horn trade.
他几乎每周都写文章 He writes articles almost every week
并且他将向我们提供河内犀牛角交易的独家新闻 and he's gonna give us the scoop on what's going on in Hanoi.
请谈谈你曾涉及到的 Tell me about the stories you've covered
有关犀牛角交易的情况 when it comes to rhino horn.
@补充 我在文章中探索了有关犀牛角多方面的问题
@补充 比如说交易动态
@补充 我参加了一个犀牛角考察团【不确定】 去了克鲁格国家公园
@补充 当我到非洲的时候 我意识到
@补充 使用犀牛角
@补充 其实就是在直接或间接地杀害犀牛
@补充 这种行为应该受到严惩
你能告诉我据你所知 Can you tell me about what you've seen
犀牛角主要是用来做什么的吗 as a phenomenon of rhino horn use here?
@补充 有传言称 犀牛角是一种特效药
@补充 能够治愈癌症和罕见疾病
@补充 这让富人们 尤其是病患
@补充 纷纷求购这种特效药
@补充 有很多官方公告声明
@补充 使用犀牛角
@补充 无益于治愈癌症或其他疾病
@补充 犀牛角的成分 和人的指甲与头发是相同的
@补充 没有任何科学证据证明犀牛角的用处
@补充 但是人们就是无视真相
谢谢您愿意接受我们的访问 Thank you for meeting with me.
即使犀牛角其实就是由角质构成的 Even though rhino horn is indeed just made of keratin,
和指甲的成分相同 the same substance as fingernails,
很多像Nguyen Van Nhuong这样的人 many people like Nguyen Van Nhuong
还是指望牛角能治愈他们的疾病 are looking to the horn to cure their ailments.
您得的是什么癌呢 What kind of cancer do you have?
@补充 他们在我的左肺部发现了一个肿瘤
@补充 诊断结果是肺癌
@补充 所以他们送我到癌症治疗中心接受化疗
@补充 在第九个疗程之后我停止了化疗
@补充 转而尝试东医[中医]治疗
你相信犀牛角 Do you believe that rhino horn
真的能够治愈癌症么 can actually cure cancer?
@补充 东医认为 犀牛角能帮助人体过滤掉
@补充 人体内的任何外来杂质
@补充 从而帮助人体排毒
@补充 这就是犀牛角的作用了
@补充 [在服用了犀牛角之后]我长了些体重
@补充 但是一个月之后 健康状况又下来了
我们现在在传统药铺一条街的拐角处 We're around the corner from traditional medicine street.
我们要试着买点犀牛角 We're about to go try to buy some rhino horn.
虽然我们知道这里有卖 We know they sell it here
但我们也知道对着摄像机镜头他们不会承认的 but we also know they're not going to talk to us on camera
因为这是违法的 because it's illegal.
所以 我们带了装有隐形摄像机的眼镜 So, we brought these hidden camera glasses
试试看能不能买到一些 and we're going to see if we can buy some.
@(药)你这里卖药么 You have medicine here?
@(你买什么药)对 Yeah.
你这里卖犀牛角么 Do you sell rhino horn?
@补充 啊 没有
没有么 No?
@补充 没有
没有么 No?
@补充 这里能买到犀牛角么
你这儿卖这个么 Do you sell this?
他们有标语 你不卖吗 They have a sign. You don't sell?
@（不 不） 你不卖 噢 不卖 好吧 No, you don't. Oh, no. OK.
在得到线索之前我不得不去询问一些人 I only had to ask a few people before I got a lead.
犀牛角 Rhino horn.
@（犀牛角） 犀牛角 是的 Sen te za, yeah.
即使是外国人 Even as a foreigner, it didn't take long
想问到犀牛角黑市的位置 for someone to point us in the direction
也不用花太多时间 of black market rhino horn.
我们已经配备好了 We've rigged the hotel room up
一个到处装有摄像机的酒店房间 so that there are cameras in different corners.
我们邀请到了一个犀牛角商人 And we've invited a rhino horn dealer
他即将到这来与我们会面并且卖给我们一些犀牛角 who's going to come meet us here and sell us some rhino.
抵达这里的商人是越南犯罪集团的 The dealer who arrived is part of a major
主犯之一 Vietnamese crime syndicate,
所以为了保护当地摄制团队的安全 so, we blurred his face for the safety
我们给他的脸打了马赛克 of our local production team.
很感谢你能来 Thank you for coming.
所以现在你可以到酒店来了
- 发生什么了 - 很显然 - What's happening? - It becomes clear
这个商人没有带犀牛角 the dealer doesn't have the horn with him.
但他确认我们不是警察后 But once he confirms we're not the police,
就马上打电话给同伙带犀牛角来 he calls his man to bring the rhino horn.
这是犀牛角的图片吗 要多少钱 This is a picture of it? How much is that?
我把这些东西卖给中国和越南那些有权有钱的人
你好 Hello.
这个商人从他的包里拿了两个犀牛角出来 The dealer pulls two rhino horns from his bag.
所以 这个要多少钱 And so, how much is this?
@（一万一千五百美金一个） 一万一千五百美金 好吧 - $11,500. Ok.
你觉得哪个更好 Which one do you think is better?
这一根的顶端很尖
在你的朋友面前炫耀是很不错的
但是你要确实要使用的话 这一根更好
这是真的犀牛角 不是假货 对吧 This is real rhino, not fake rhino, right?
假的犀牛角不是这种形状
而且还会有烟熏的味道
好吧 很好 谢谢你 All right, good. Thank you.
我告诉商人等我集齐了 I told the dealer I'd call him
一万一千五百美金之后再联系他 once I got the $11,500 in cash together.
可是为什么犀牛角的价格这么贵呢 But how is it that this horn can command this kind of money?
犀牛角价格昂贵并且需求量大主要有两个原因
首先 现在越南的癌症患者越来越多
其次 在越南有很多
没有疾病史的富人
但是他们仍然想用最好的治疗方法延年益寿
这些电视可以播放我的所有电视频道
Hoang把我们介绍给了他的 Hoang introduced us to his friend Nguyen Haoi,
有线电视企业家朋友Nguyen Haoi who's an entrepreneur with a cable TV business.
他同意跟我们谈谈 He agreed to talk to us about
他使用犀牛角的原因 his reasons for using rhino horn.
我知道并没有科学的证据证明犀牛角的好处
但是 这是我们祖传下来的传统
这是我父亲传承给我的
你还记得他第一次使用时的情景吗 Do you remember when you saw him first using it?
记得 小时候如果我发烧了
我父亲就会磨一些下来然后喂我吃
你是从什么时候开始买犀牛角的 When did you get your piece of rhino horn?