嘿,纽约 Hey, New York.
每次我扔东西的时候 Every time I throw something out,
感觉就像我在逃避什么 It feels like I'm getting away with something.
每周二和周五 On Tuesday and Friday every week,
所有我可耻生活方式的证据 all the evidence of my shameful lifestyle
毫无疑问地被移除 is removed without any question.
我再也不用想这件事了 And I never have to think about it ever again.
想到它这么简单就很神奇 It's amazing to think that it's this easy
摆脱某物 to get rid of something.
但总会有一些东西 But there's always going to be some stuff
你永远不知道该怎么抛弃 that you're never quite sure how to throw away.
我有一大盒旧电池 I have a big box of used batteries
放在我公寓里 that I keep in my apartment.
他们 我想他们都死了 They're, uh-- I think they're all dead,
但我不敢把它们扔进普通的垃圾桶 but I'm afraid to throw them into the normal trash
原因我不太明白 for reasons I don't quite understand.
我以为我是唯一一个 I thought I was the only one,
但当我和我的邻居交谈时 but when I-- but when I talked to my neighbors,
看来他们和我有同样的问题 it seems like they had the same problem as me.
-这是我的包… -This is my bag for...
诸如此类的事情 我想 things like that, I guess.
里面还有什么? What else is in there?
我也不知道该拿他们怎么办 I don't know what to do with them, either.
你被他们困住了 然后他们就没了 You're stuck with them, and then they dry up,
你根本不能使用它们 and you can't use them at all.
似乎有很多混杂的信息 There seemed to be a lot of mixed messaging
如何处理这些东西 about how to get rid of stuff like this and,
这导致一些人无限期地持有一些东西 and that causes some people to hold on to things indefinitely.
所以如果我把它扔进垃圾桶 And so if I just put it out in the trash,
我觉得我不是个好公民 I feel like I'm not being a good citizen.
我真的 I really do.
正确处理事情会让你感觉 Disposing of things correctly can make you feel
好像你在做上帝的工作 like you're doing the Lord's work.
所以为了不让这些东西拖得太久 So instead of holding onto this stuff longer than you have to,
跟着我 我教你 stick with me, and I'll show you
如何让你的生活井然有序 how to get your life in order
最终找到正确的方法 and finally figure out the right way
扔掉你所有的电池 to get rid of all your batteries.
你应该去的第一个地方是 The first place you should try is the
市里设立的危险废物降落点 hazardous waste drop-off site that the city has set up
就在下东区的曼哈顿大桥下面 right under the Manhattan Bridge on the Lower East Side.
但当你到了那里 就好像 But when you get there, it seems like
暂时关闭, it's temporarily closed,
他们没有给出任何暗示 and they don't give any indication
至于何时重新开放 as to when it's going to reopen.
所以你得想点别的办法 So, you're gonna have to figure something else out.
幸运的是 当你在你的社区散步时 Thankfully, when you're walking around your neighborhood,
你会偶然发现 you actually stumble across,
一个电子垃圾事件 uh, an electronic waste event,
在那里你可以扔掉这些东西 where you're supposed to throw out stuff like this.
但当你问他们能不能拿走你的电池时 But when you ask them if they can, uh, take your batteries,
你有个令人失望的消息 uh, you get some disappointing news.
-你不带电池?-不 -You don't take batteries? -No.
我们以前在布鲁克林有个仓库 So, we used to have a warehouse in Brooklyn,
然后房东提高了租金 and then the landlord raised the rent.
现在 如果你回头看 你会发现有一辆卡车 And so now, if you look behind you, we've got a truck there.
那么 我要把电池扔哪儿呢? So, where would I throw out my batteries?
百思买 史泰博 家得宝 Best Buy, Staples, Home Depot,
劳氏或宜家会接受他们 Lowe's, or IKEA will take them.
-哦,真的吗?-是的 -Oh, really? -Yeah.
所以 带着你的电池去地铁站 So, take your batteries down to the subway station
把他们带到那个地方 and bring them all the way to the place
他说的 he was talking about.
第一个地方 呃 没有 呃… The first place, uh, didn't, um...
现在好像还没打开 所以, it didn't seem open right now. So,
回地铁去 带上你的电池 get back on the subway and take your batteries
一直到他提到的下一个地方 all the way to the next place that he mentioned.
但当你进去的时候 But when you get in there,
你很难找到容器 you have a tough time finding the receptacle
他说的那个 that he was talking about.
你的日子就更难过了 And you have an even harder time,
找个员工 uh, finding an employee.
请问 你在这里工作吗? Excuse me, do you work here?
-不 -哦,抱歉 -No. -Oh, sorry.
-你不在这里工作 是吗?-不,我不喜欢 -You don't work here, do you? -No, I don't.
-好的 是那件橙色的衬衫 -Okay. It's the orange shirt.
在寻找了一段时间后 And after searching for a while,
你开始怀疑他们为什么把事情搞得这么难 you start to wonder why they make this so hard.
如果你要买电池的话 If you're gonna be buying batteries
在你的余生里 for the rest of your life,
你一定要回来吗 are you going to have to come back
去这个该死的地方 to this godforsaken place
每首歌 每一次你的包厢满了? every sing-- every time your box fills up?
你希望能摆脱这些 And you wish you could just get rid of these
和你做其他事情的方法一样 the same way that you do everything else.
但是 出于某种原因 But, for some reason,
这不是一个选择 that's not an option.
即使你要回收这些东西 Even if you were to recycle these things,
你都不确定这样会不会让你好受点 you're not even sure if that would make you feel better.
你把所有的罐头和东西分开 You separate all your cans and stuff
从普通的垃圾中 但是 from the normal garbage, but
你在哪里读到过只有9%的塑料 you read somewhere that only 9% of plastic
实际上是回收 is actually recycled.
不管环境意识有多强 And no matter how environmentally conscious
你觉得你在 you think you're being,
感觉就像幻觉一样 it feels like it's just an illusion
为了让你良心安宁 to ease your conscience.
也许这只是人性的一部分 Maybe it's just part of human nature
希望某事 to hope that something
能接受另一种生活吗 can take on another life
然后以另一种形式返回 and return in a different form.
我们在转世的例子中看到的一点是 One thing that we see in reincarnation cases
我们基本上是同一个人吗 is we're basically the same person
从一生到一生 from lifetime to lifetime.
灵魂投射出全息图 The soul projects a hologram,
如果你愿意 进入发育中的胎儿 if you will, into the developing fetus,
是什么导致了面部特征 which results in the facial features
一生一世相似的一生一世相似的 being similar from lifetime to lifetime.
嗯…马克•扎克伯格 Uh... Mark Zuckerberg
是早期的数据程序员吗 was an early data programmer
美国人口普查 for the US Census.
杰·雷诺是莫里哀的转世 Uh, Jay Leno is the reincarnation of Moliere.
迈克尔·杰克逊10岁时 Michael Jackson, at age 10,
是加入了 was recruited into
这孩子的军队 this children's army
和被杀 and was killed.
非常相似 The resemblance is very striking.
你知道 嘴巴和下巴差不多 You know, the mouth and the chin are pretty much the same.
是,你呢?是的 -Is that you? -Yep.
-几年前 你是说 -A few years back. -You're saying
你是美国第二任总统? you were the second President of the United States?
正确的 Correct.
我遇到了一个女人 I met a woman,
不到六个月 我们就结婚了 and within six months, we were married.
结果是 And it turned out that
她是我的儿子 she was my son
在亚当斯的有生之年 in the Adams lifetime.
等等 你妻子是你的 那个转世 Wait, your wife was your-- the reincarnation
-你 约翰·亚当斯的儿子?-是的 -of your, John Adams' son? -Yes.
这是乱伦吗? Is that, is that incest?
这不是乱伦 因为… Well, it's not incest because...
它们是不同的 they're different lifetimes.
-哦,好的 -是的 -Oh, okay. -Yeah.
当纽约人不知道如何处理某样东西时 When New Yorkers aren't sure how to dispose of something,
它通常会停在人行道上 it usually ends up on the sidewalk.
他们经常把它放在显眼的地方 They often place it somewhere conspicuous
希望环卫员工 in the hopes that sanitation employees
会移除它 因为它挡道了 will remove it because it's in the way.
执法部门是 And law enforcement is
完全无力阻止它 absolutely powerless to stop it.
人行道上有个保险箱 There's a safe that's been on the sidewalk
在我公寓附近待了很长时间 near my apartment for a long time,
我也不知道怎么会在那里 and I have no idea how it got there.
你知道这个保险箱是怎么回事吗? Do you know what's up with this safe?
哦,好的 Oh, okay.
似乎很难移动 It seems extremely hard to move,
不管有多少 and no matter how many
我最喜欢的组合 of my favorite combinations I try,
我好像进不去 I can't seem to get inside.
城市的垃圾桶也装满了物品 City garbage cans are also filled with objects
人们不知道该怎么扔 that people aren't sure how to throw out.
但如果你放错了东西 But if you put the wrong stuff in there,
它会严重损害收集它的人 it can seriously damage the people that collect it.
-你好吗 伙计?早....早上 -How you doing, man? Morning. -Morning.
人们扔掉牛排刀 People throw out steak knives
在垃圾袋 针 in garbage bags. Needles.
这是最糟糕的部分 That's the worst part.
你拿起一个袋子 当它荡回来的时候…… You pick up a bag, and when it swings back...
有针 There was stitches.
我割到了腿内侧 I cut the inside of my leg,
我想是在别的地方 三次, and I think somewhere else. Three times,
-我最后不得不在腿上缝针 该死的! -I wind up having to get stitches on my leg. -Damn!
哦,看,看 看!在这里 Oh, look, look. Look! Here.
——这是什么?——开放 -What's that? -Open it.
-哦,大便 -一个在街边车库的人 -Oh, shit. -A guy in a garage down the street
有一个在他身上爆炸了 had one of these explode on him,
他在医院住了大概… and he was in the hospital for about...
-你说大约一个月?-是的 -What'd you say, about a month? -Yeah.
大约一个月 For about a month.
好了 现在 如果那是那个坦克 There we go. Now, if that was that tank,
它在我们身上爆炸 it's exploding on us.
知道你扔掉的是什么 做好你的工作 Know what you're throwing out, do your work.
如果你不确定 打3-1-1 If you're not sure, call 3-1-1.
似乎如果你扔掉了不该扔掉的东西 It seems like if you throw out something you shouldn't,
他们不得不叫一个专门的废物处理部门来处理 they have to call in a special waste department to handle it.
如果你粗心大意 And if you're sloppy,
它甚至会被记入你的永久档案 it could even go on your permanent record.
十有八九 我们会找到 Nine out of 10 times, we will locate
存款的人 the individual that deposited it,
如果发现他们违反规定 我们会处罚他们 and if they're found in violation, we'll issue a violation.
这可能会导致犯罪 It could potentially go criminal,
-特别是如果有人严重受伤 -哇 -especially if someone's severely injured. -Wow.
一旦他们把坦克拿走 Once they took the tank away,
你得多跟他们聊聊 you got to talking with them a bit more,
你问我能不能过来看看 and you asked if you could come see
卫生部门是如何运作的 how the Department of Sanitation works.
他们说可以 And they actually said yeah.
每个人的垃圾都会被运回这里 Everyone's garbage is brought back to this facility
然后被倾倒在一个又大又臭的坑里 旁边是自卸卡车 and dumped into a big, stinky pit by the dump trucks.
他们有危险物体的照片 And they have photos of dangerous objects
他们会告诉你的 that they'll show you.
这是爆炸氧气罐的残骸 This is the remnants of an oxygen tank that exploded.
封锁曼哈顿两个街区的范围 Shut down a two-block radius in Manhattan.
你可以看到有一些注射器 You can see there's some syringes.
你有酸 毒药 砒霜 You have some acid, poison, arsenic.
只是一张我们办公室的简单照片 Just a simple photograph of our offices.
然后他们让你去隔壁的回收设施 Then they let you go to the recycling facility next door,
他们让人用手把东西分开 where they have people separating things by hand.
他们会花几秒钟告诉你它有多危险 And they take a second to tell you how dangerous it is
把电池和回收物混在一起 to have batteries mixed in with the recycling.
比如音乐贺卡 So, musical greeting cards, for example, um,
你想都不用想 里面有个电池 you don't think about it, but there's a battery in there.
新泽西州真的发生了火灾 And there is actually a fire in New Jersey,
有一个纸张回收设施 there's a paper recycling facility,
整个基地都被夷为平地 and the entire facility burned to the ground.
这是一个电池的例子 So, here's an example of a battery.
这是一个电动自行车电池 它进入了我们的设施 This is an e-bike battery. It came into our facility.
我们并没有要求这样做 We didn't actually ask for this,
但有人认为它们应该被回收利用 but someone thought they should be recycled.
这可能会造成一种闷烧的状态 And it could create a smoldering condition,
而且非常危险 and it's hugely dangerous.
我们很好!-好的,没问题 -We're good! -Alright, no problem.
嗯… Um...
这次旅行让我大开眼界 而你没有意识到 The tour was really eye-opening, and you didn't realize
那是多么温和的家居用品啊 that such a gentle household object
可能会造成如此大的破坏 could be responsible for so much devastation.
当你在YouTube上看的时候 你会看到真的有一个人 When you look on YouTube, you see that there's actually a guy
谁奉献了他的一生 who's dedicated his entire life
提醒人们注意这种事 to warning people about stuff like this.
这个电锯可能会意外启动 This chainsaw may unexpectedly start
不按电源开关 without pressing the power switch
当延长线适配器颠倒连接时 when the extension cord adapter is connected upside down.
这些糕点可能含有霉菌 These pastries may contain mold.
如果你买了胡萝卜 不要吃掉它们 而是销毁它们 If you bought the carrots, don't consume them, but destroy them.
这些服装不符合联邦易燃标准 These garments failed to meet federal flammability standards
儿童睡衣, for children's sleepwear,
它们还会增加儿童烧伤的风险 and they create a risk for childhood burn injuries.
不要允许你的孩子穿这些睡袍 Do not permit your child to wear these nightgowns.
联系拉帕洛玛 安排退款 Contact La Paloma and arrange a refund.
易燃的睡衣? Nightgowns are flammable?
是的 它们应该是不易燃的 Yep. Well, they're supposed to be not be flammable.
-哦,对,对 但是,他们也是 -Oh, right, right. -But, they are.
你认为人们为什么会保留召回的产品 Why do you think people hold on to recalled products
即使他们知道自己很危险? even if they know they've-- they're dangerous?
嗯 大多数人收集任何产品 Well, most people collect any product
因为他们认为这是收藏品 because they think it is a collector's item.
也就是说 它是有价值的 That is, it's valuable.
我想如果你有一个瓶子 So, I imagine if you had a bottle,
一个装着东西的罐子 a jar with something in it,
就像螺丝钉、螺栓或螺母一样 like a screw or a bolt or a nut,
这可能会成为一个有趣的收藏品 that probably would be an interesting collector's item.
你以前从没这么想过 You never really thought of it like that before.
你认为有缺陷的东西 That something you thought was defective
也许有一天会成为收藏品 could actually become a collectible one day.
也许我们只需要处理物品 Maybe if we just take care of objects
没有人想要 that nobody else wants,
它们可能最终会被送进博物馆 they might actually end up in a museum.
甚至可能有隐藏的价值 And there could even be hidden value
在你的东西里面 inside of your stuff
如果你能学习的话 if you could just learn
如何破解密码 how to crack the code.
这是美泰椰菜补丁零食小子 This is the Mattel Cabbage Patch Snacktime Kid,
它被召回是因为它… and it was recalled because it was...
他们不吃盒装的零食 Instead of eating the snacks that came in the box,
它实际上在吃孩子的头发 it was actually eating children's hair.
-用什么电池?——“c” -What kind of batteries does it take? -"C."
问题是它不会停止 That's the problem is that it doesn't stop
在你给它食物之后 after you give it the food.
这么说 这可能会让一个孩子头皮发软? So, this could, like, potentially scalp a, a child?
是的 是的 也许可以 Yeah. Yeah, it, it probably could.
这样的东西值多少钱? How-how much is something like this worth?
我想现在大约500美元 I think around $500 right now.
-真的?哇 -是的 -Really? Wow. -Yeah.
每当我无聊的时候 我就喜欢到处闲逛 Whenever I'm bored, I like to cruise around
在克雷格列表网站的免费版块 on the free section of Craigslist.
里面装满了 It's filled with items that
人们已经决定不再想要了 people have decided they don't want anymore,
但出于某种原因 他们不能让自己扔掉 but they can't bring themselves to throw away for some reason.
很多这样的东西 A lot of these objects would make
完美的垃圾 the perfect piece of trash,
但他们仍然觉得自己有价值 but they still feel like they could be of value
给其他人 to somebody else.
你看到有人真的在努力 You saw that someone was actually trying
把旧电池送人 to give away some old batteries.
他们看起来像是五十年代的人 They looked like they were from the 1950s or something,
你觉得也许 and you thought maybe
总有一天会值点钱的 they could be worth something one day.
所以你去他们家 和他们见面 So, you go to their house to, uh, meet up with them.
那你为什么要扔掉这些电池? So, wh-wh-why are you getting rid of these batteries?
我前夫让他们装饰他做的架子的顶部 My ex had them decorating the top of shelves he built,
你可以在那边看到它的残骸 which you can see the remains of over there.
我喜欢他们 我喜欢他 他们使我想起了他 I liked them. I liked him. They reminded me of him.
你还有什么 Is there anything else that you,
从你的上一段感情中得到的 like, held on to from your last relationship
很难摆脱吗? that's hard to get rid of?
是啊 我还留着我的结婚戒指 Yeah, I still got my wedding rings.
-哦,真的吗?-是的 -Oh, really? -Yeah.
你 你打算近期内摆脱他们吗? Do you, do you plan on getting rid of them anytime soon?
不 我想我…… No. I guess I...
因为我觉得超级内疚 呃,我… because I feel super guilty. Uh, I...
我觉得我甩不掉他们 I don't think I could get rid of them,
但我也从来没想过我能穿它们 but I also don't ever think I could wear them.
我房间里有五样东西 I got all my-- Like, I have five things in my room.
我的一堆衣服 我的迪斯科灯 My stack of clothes, my disco lamp.
然后 这是… And then, this is...
-是我猫的骨灰 在那里? -It's my cat's ashes. -In there?
是的 她出生在这个公寓 然后死在这里 所以… Yeah, she was born and then died in this apartment, so...
也许摆脱痛苦的东西才是 Maybe getting rid of painful stuff is
比看起来复杂得多 more complicated than it seems
因为即使你用不上它 because even if you don't have a use for it,
你还是不忍心看到它被扔掉 you still can't bear to see it thrown away.
当你回到你的公寓 环顾四周… And when you go back to your apartment and look around...
你意识到有多少不必要的东西 you realize how much unnecessary stuff
你也躺了这么多年了 you've had lying around for years, too.
有些是感情用事 Some of it is sentimental.
其中一些可能会变得有价值 Some of it might become valuable.
还有一些你随身携带的东西 And some of the stuff you keep around
是情感上的放射性 is emotionally radioactive.
我小时候拍过电影 When I was growing up, I used to make a movie
每一天 every single day.
我还保存着所有的录像带 I still have all the tapes
放在我公寓的盒子里 that I keep in a box in my apartment.
但是 我从不给任何人看 But, I never show them to anyone
因为它们太令人尴尬了 because they're too embarrassing to watch.
我甚至在高中的时候拍了一部故事片 I even made a feature film when I was in high school.
这是一部圣诞电影 It was a Christmas movie
被称为“叮当浆果”, called "Jingle Berry,"
这花了三年多的时间 and it took over three years to make.
到了首映的时候 When the time came for the premiere, uh,
我和我的朋友克里斯介绍了这部电影 I introduced the movie with my friend Chris,
然后跑上楼去收拾桌子以防万一 and then ran upstairs to man the merch table in case
有人想买吗 anyone wanted to buy
200张手工制作的dvd之一 one of the 200 handmade DVDs
我们为这次活动做了准备 that we'd prepared for the event.
但当电影最终结束时 But when the movie was finally over,
每个离开剧院的人都直接走过 everyone that exited the theater walked directly past
尽量避免和我眼神接触 and tried to avoid eye contact with me.
我一本书都没卖给来的人 I didn't sell a single copy to anyone that came.
那是最痛苦的经历之一 And it was one of the most painful experiences
我的一生 of my entire life.
我也为我的父母做了筛查 I also screened it for my parents,
这是我父亲告诉我的 and my own father told me that
这是他看过的最糟糕的电影 it was the worst movie he had ever seen.
之后我觉得很尴尬 I was so embarrassed afterwards that
我把自己做的所有磁盘都销毁了 I destroyed every single disk that I made.
但出于某种原因 But for some reason,
我现在还留着一张 I still hold on to one of them.
如果有一天我被公交车撞了 If I was hit by a bus one day,
这是我最不希望别人发现的 it would be the last thing I'd want anyone to discover.
这肯定是有原因的 And there has to be some reason
我们有这样的东西 we hold on to stuff like this.
好吧…… Okay...
-好的 -哦哇 -Okay. -Oh wow.
这是我叔叔伯尼带回来的 Um, this was brought back by my Uncle Bernie
他在第二次世界大战期间参加了第45步兵团 who fought in the 45th Infantry during World War II.
你觉得你还能坚持多久? How long do you feel like you'll hold on to this?
嗯… Um...
它是……我 我 我真的不知道 It is... I, I, I don't really know.
我是说 这不是什么 I mean, this is not something
我们会随手扔进垃圾桶 we would casually throw out in the trash.
有一件事……我当然不想 For one thing... I certainly wouldn't want,
你知道 任何市政环卫工人 you know, any municipal sanitation worker
在我们的垃圾桶里发现一面纳粹旗帜… to find a Nazi flag in our trash can...
-对 ——首先 -Right. - for starters.
只是 你知道 就像 It's just, you know, it's like
-“邪恶的象征 ”-嗯 -"the very symbol of evil." -Mm-hmm.
它是 但它也是 Which it is, but it's also
一块破布-是的 -a crappy piece of cloth. -Yeah.
你知道 也许 也许有话要说 And, you know, maybe, maybe there's something to be said
因为不像我们那样迷恋它 for like not fetishizing it the way we do.
这是我们存放东西的仓库 This is the warehouse where we store
大约120万件物品 approximately 1.2 million items
被没收或扣押的人 that have either been confiscated or seized by
美国鱼类和野生动物执法局 the US Fish and Wildlife Service Office of Law Enforcement.
如果你能想象某种产品 If you can imagine a product of some kind,
可能以这样或那样的形式存在 it's probably here in one form or another.
这是我们最独特的物品之一 This is one of our more unique objects.
这是一个老虎的胎儿 It is a tiger fetus
已被制成标本保存 that has been taxidermied for preservation,
这句话 我们有时会发现自己 A phrase that, that we sometimes find ourselves
这里的意思是 “品味差不是犯罪 ” saying here is, "bad taste is not a crime."
也许应该如此 但事实并非如此 It probably should be, but it is not.
是的 这些真的很糟糕 Yeah, these are really awful.
非常糟糕的事 Just awful.
有些东西会无限期地留在这里 Some of this stuff will remain here indefinitely,
当我说“无限期”时 我会说 and, and I would say when I say indefinitely,
我的意思是 I really do mean, um,
至少在存储库的生命周期内是这样 at least for the lifetime of the repository.
呃 有什么好处 Uh, what's the benefit of
保护它而不是摧毁它? preserving it over destroying it?
即使他们不再是 Um, even though they're no longer,
你知道 有生命的生物 you know, living creatures,
他们仍然扮演着重要的角色 they still play a significant role
传播关于保护环境的信息 in getting the message out about conservation
以及打击非法贸易 and, and combating the illegal trade.
一辆高速行驶的摩托车撞上了我 A speeding motorcycle collided into me,
夹了我一下 我的腿马上就断了 clipped me, and took my leg off right away.
基本上 我被告知这条腿 Basically, I was told that this leg
不再是我的一部分 was no longer a part of me.
这甚至不再是人类了 This wasn't even a human anymore.
我想他们把它叫做生物废物 I think they called it like biological waste
或者类似的东西 or something like that.
现在它是他们的财产了 And now it was the property of them.
它不再是我的财产了 那只是… It was no longer my property, and that was just...
我甚至 我甚至不能接受 I couldn't even-- I couldn't even accept that.
他们不想让你截肢 还有 They don't want you taking your leg, and, and
邮寄到…… mailing it to the...
到总统之类的 所以,嗯… to the president or something. So, um...
这是有责任的 这是可以理解的 there's a liability there, and it's understandable.
你为什么要把你的腿寄给总统? Why would you wanna mail your leg to the president?
你知道 人总会做些疯狂的事 Well, you know, people do crazy things.
所以,是的,之后…… So, yeah, after...
大约有一打拒绝 我终于说服了…… about a dozen no's, I was finally able to convince...
某人…… someone...
把我的腿还给我 to give me my leg back.
哇 Wow.
每天看到这些 会让你难过吗? Does it, does it make you upset to, to see this every day?
不!不 我 我 我喜欢! No! No, I, I, I love it!
对我来说 这是一件珍宝 我很乐意展示这个 To me, this is a treasure. Like, I, I will gladly display this.
我会的 我会的…… I will, I will...
我会把这个放在壁炉架上 你知道,我 I will put this on the fireplace mantle. I, you know,
这是我的演讲作品 这是我的一切 this is my talking piece, this is everything to me.
这是无价的 我不能——我永远不能…… It's priceless. I couldn't-- I could never...
我永远都不会给它贴上标签 I could never put a tag on it.
也许所需要的只是一个视角的转变 Maybe all it takes is a shift in perspective.
如果你开始看到一些痛苦的事情 And if you begin to see something traumatic
从积极的角度来看 in a positive light,
它可以是真正让你感觉良好的事情 it can be something that actually makes you feel good.
你坐下来看《铃儿响叮当》 So, you sit down to watch "Jingle Berry"
这是首映后的第一次 for the first time since the premiere.
也许你只是记错了情况有多糟 Maybe you just misremembered how bad it was,
你只是对你的孩子有点太严厉了 and you were really just being a little too hard on yours--
Scrimsly -不,不!你不能! -No, Scrimsly, no! You can't!
我现在比以往任何时候都更需要你! I need you now more than I ever, ever did!
不,不,不 再一想 No, no, no. Uh, and on second thought,
你可能真的需要想个办法 you might actually need to find a way
把它放在某个地方 to put it somewhere
一个永远不会伤害别人的地方 where, uh, it can never hurt anyone else
人了 ever, ever again.
处理有毒物质最负责任的做法是什么? What's the most responsible thing to do with toxic material?
嗯… Well...
试着别做 但那是 嗯… try not making it, but that's, um...
这就是我个人认为 That's one of the reasons why, personally,
我认为我们不应该有新的核电站 I figure that we shouldn't be having new nuclear power plants
直到我们弄清楚我们把产生的废物放在哪里 till we figure out where we're putting the waste we've generated.
废物隔离试验厂 The Waste Isolation Pilot Plant
是他们处理放射性废物的地方 is where they're disposing of radioactive wastes,
这个项目是 and the project was
你是如何标记这个地点的 how do you mark the site and have it be
一万年都能听懂? intelligible for 10,000 years?
你不知道哪种语言能存活下来 You don't know which language is gonna survive.
特定的面部表情 Certain facial expressions
跨文化工作 work across cultures.
-Mm-hm ——像这样, -Mm-hm. -Something like this,
也就是说这不是一个好地方 which would say it's not a good place to be,
应该在上面 should be on there.
你受伤了 你痛苦了 You've got hurt, you've got pain,
随着时间的推移 and as time goes on,
这些废物的危害减少了 the hazard from these wastes diminish.
我是说 没人喜欢接近有毒物质 I mean, no one likes the idea of being near toxic stuff,
尤其是那些你不知道有毒的东西 and particularly toxic stuff you don't know was toxic.
这是部分原因 And that's part of the reason
告诉大家你真的不想待在这里 to tell people that you really don't wanna be here.
我以前住在放射性最强的街区 I used to live on the most radioactive block
在纽约 in New York City.
在20世纪50年代 他们经常抛尸 In the 1950s, they used to dump
危险废物进入了这家熟食店下面的下水道 hazardous waste into the sewer underneath, uh, this deli
因为他们不知道还能做什么 because they didn't know what else to do with it.
这座城市试图阻止辐射 The city tried to block the radiation
用沉重的铅和钢板覆盖它 by covering it with heavy lead and steel plates,
但这只是权宜之计 but that was only a temporary fix,
辐射仍然会继续伤害人类 and the radiation will still keep harming people
直到他们完全挖掘这个地方 until they fully excavate the site
把上面的人都赶走 and displace everyone above it.
也许这不是优先考虑的问题 Maybe it's such a low priority
因为没有明显的解决方案 because there's no obvious solution,
更容易忽略存在的东西 and it's easier to just ignore what's there.
据说在兰德尔的岛上 Supposedly on Randall's Island,
为性犯罪者提供了更多的住所 there's more housing for sex offenders
比纽约其他任何地方都要多 than anywhere else in New York City.
据我所知 他们很严格 They're pretty strict, as I understand.
你不能被学校 你不能被… You can't be by schools, you can't be by...
不能住在一千英尺的学校里 can't live with a thousand feet of a, a school,
17岁以下的儿童不能参加 can't be by children under the age of 17.
但是 你还是得有地方让他们去 But, you still have to have a place for them to go.
出于某种原因 他们选择了兰德尔岛 And, for some reason, they picked Randall's Island,
这对我来说有点奇怪 which is a little strange to me.
你觉得这里有很多人知道他们很亲密吗? Do you think a lot of people here know that they're so close?
我 我 我很怀疑 I, I, I doubt it.
我怀疑他们甚至…… I doubt that they even...
要知道他们在这里 have a clue that they're here.
你可以看到那里有一个公园 如果你转身 You can see there's a park right there. If you turn around,
孩子们在公园里玩耍 他们到处走动 kids are playing in the parks, and they got about
岛上有27块这样的田地 27 fields like that on this island.
就在那里 性犯罪者 在这里 And right there, sex offenders. Right there.
你甚至不会知道……如果我给你们看 You wouldn't even know... If I showed you them,
你甚至不会说"不可能 "就像, you wouldn't even-- Like, "no way." Like,
我不知道我看起来怎么样 I don't know how I look,
但大多数人不会怀疑我是性侵犯者 but most people would never suspect that I'm a sex offender.
你知道我在说什么吗?-你…… -You know what I'm saying? -Did you...
我是说 有时候我收拾得很好 你知道我在说什么吗? I mean, I clean up good sometimes, you know what I'm sayin'?
我现在无家可归 因为我不能在某些情况下生活 I'm homeless now because I can't live in certain situations
因为我的二级性侵犯 because of my level 2 sex offense.
我和那些疯狂的猥亵儿童的人在一起 I was in with these crazy child molesters and shit.
我无法接受 I couldn't deal with it.
纽约市的大多数性侵犯者 Most of the sex offenders in New York City
通过这个系统 go through this system right here,
大部分都是给克拉克·托马斯的 and most of them go to Clark Thomas.
这就是你下车的地方 就在那里 This is where you get off at, right there.
那是车站 你去克拉克·托马斯站 That's the stop, and you go to Clark Thomas right there.
这是最糟糕的公交车 It's the worst possible bus
你可以继续下去 that you could get on.
你怎么称呼阿富汗的那个? However you call the one in Afghanistan?
那辆巴士就是这样的 That's what that bus is like.
为这些地方做决定的大多数人 Most of the people that make the decisions about these places
我没去过这些地方 haven't experienced these places.
他们只是想到一个主意 比如 “那太棒了 They just come up with an idea, like, "That would be great.
我们去月球上生活吧 ”你从没去过月球! Let's go live on the moon." You never been to the moon!
但是 “让我们去月球生活吧!” But, "Let's go live on the moon!
“让我们在月球上建一些房子 "Let's make some housing on the moon.
那就太棒了!”他们登上了月球 That shit would be great!" And they make it on the moon,
然后他们意识到 “该死 这里没有大气 then they realize, "Damn. There's no atmosphere here.
我们在这里怎么生活?” How are we gonna live here?"
就性侵犯而言 With being a sex offense,
你肯定得承认 you definitely have to admit to it.
即使在他们给你安排的项目里 Even in the programs that they put you in,
如果你不承认 你就不能回家 if you don't admit it, you're not going home.
很多人承认这一点只是为了回家 And a lot of people admit it just to go home.
你自己承认过吗? Have you admitted it to yourself?
一开始 我没有 我拒绝承认 At first, I didn't. I was in denial.
我拒绝承认 现在说到这个 I was in denial. Even talking about it now,
我都不想跟你说太多 I don't even wanna fully get into it
因为我一想到我做过的事就会哭 because I start to cry when I even think about what I did
我对她做的事 and what I did to her,
以及我对自己和家人做的事 and what I did to me and my family.
你明白我的意思吗?我这辈子都很自私 You know what I mean? I've been selfish my whole life,
所以我想 当然 但是 so I think about it, of course, but
我还没有原谅自己的所作所为 I haven't forgiven myself for what I've done.
我现在还活在这阴影里 你明白我的意思吗? I'm still living with that right now, you know what I mean?
试着原谅自己所做的一切 Trying to forgive myself for what I've done.
所以即使她原谅了我 So, you know, even if she forgave me...
我得原谅我自己 你明白我的意思吗? I got to forgive me. You know what I mean?
我不能 我得原谅我自己 这对我来说很难 I can't-- I gotta forgive me, and it's hard for me to do that.
也许你的过去不是什么 Maybe your past isn't something
你可以把它扔掉 that you can just throw away.
因为无论如何它都是你的一部分 Because it'll always be part of you in one way or another.
当我要离开小岛时 As I was about to leave the island,
我看到垃圾桶着火了 I saw that a fire started in the trashcan
我们在公共汽车站经过 at the bus stop we passed.
这似乎并没有让那里的任何人感到不安 And it didn't really seem to faze anybody there.
尽管我就站在它旁边 And even though I was standing right next to it
整个时间, the whole time,
我还是不知道是怎么开始的 I still had no idea how it started.
这不过是在收容所的又一天 This is just another day in a shelter system, man.
这就是他们所做的 你处理 This is what they do. You're dealing
和精神病患者在一起 with mentally ill people, man.
当你把一堆 Like what do you expect when you put a bunch
智障人士 你却不帮助他们? of mentally challenged people and you're not helping them?
马上就要出去了 但还是很危险 It's about to go out, but it's still dangerous.
像那样的烟雾 Fumes and shit like that.
撞到底部 底部! Hit at the bottom, the bottom!
一旦你觉得某样东西是垃圾 Once you decide something is a piece of trash,
很难将其视为其他事物 it becomes hard to see it as anything else.
即使你的内心深处还有你的一部分 Even though there's still a part of you in there somewhere.
如果你找不到正确的方法 And if you don't figure out the right way
处理你所有的东西 to deal with all your stuff,
它最终可能会对别人造成持久的伤害 it could end up doing lasting damage to somebody else.
所以即使你的问题现在看起来微不足道 So even if your problem seems insignificant in the moment,
趁你还能想办法解决它 you should find a way to deal with it while you still can.
因为一旦你能认出这个人 Because once you're able to recognize the person
你是 你可以 that you were, you can
最后 开始为你想成为的人而努力吧 finally start to work on who you want to become.
这样你就不用扔掉任何东西了 And then you might not have to throw anything out.
因为即使有些东西现在看起来有毒 Because even if something seems toxic now,
很有可能会很值钱 there's a good chance it'll be valuable
对别人说 to someone else one day,
甚至可以用来教育他们 and could even be used to educate them
-不要做什么 -about what not to do.
只要你警告他们 So long as you warn them about
你留下的东西 the stuff that you left behind,
他们应该能够做出决定 they should be able to decide
他们有多想接近它 how close they want to get to it.
即使你为自己制造的混乱感到难过 And even though you feel bad for having created a mess
首先 in the first place,
子孙后代会感谢你 future generations will thank you
做了正确的事 for doing the right thing.
我是约翰·威尔逊 谢谢收看 This is John Wilson. Thanks for watching.