1 00:02:03,069 --> 00:02:05,333 I took an English course. 2 00:02:05,524 --> 00:02:08,425 I speak the language fairly well. 3 00:02:08,625 --> 00:02:11,564 In a year, I'll speak English without an accent. 4 00:02:11,764 --> 00:02:13,699 That's what I want. 5 00:02:14,742 --> 00:02:17,853 Do you have plans to leave? -Yes, absolutely. 6 00:02:18,053 --> 00:02:20,599 Yes, the Netherlands are a small country and... 7 00:02:20,799 --> 00:02:25,678 ...I want to work with other directors. 8 00:02:25,878 --> 00:02:28,839 The Netherlands are too small. I want to remain a movie actor. 9 00:02:29,278 --> 00:02:35,801 And that chance... I could wait for it in the Netherlands... 10 00:02:36,584 --> 00:02:38,949 I have to go abroad. 11 00:02:43,300 --> 00:02:50,688 In the beginning I was a bit distant and arrogant. 12 00:02:51,636 --> 00:02:56,938 They've often told me to change my name. 13 00:02:58,893 --> 00:03:02,598 But to change my name for one movie. No way. 14 00:03:03,609 --> 00:03:07,331 I was fooling around with people. 15 00:03:08,192 --> 00:03:10,795 With the people I'd be talking to... And if they really wanted me... 16 00:03:11,015 --> 00:03:14,782 ...they'd say "maybe we don't understand him". 17 00:03:14,982 --> 00:03:17,373 "Maybe he wants more money." 18 00:03:17,679 --> 00:03:20,010 But I didn't give a shit. 19 00:03:20,210 --> 00:03:24,711 And they'd make my agent an offer. 20 00:03:24,911 --> 00:03:27,684 Or I'd say it wasn't really interesting. 21 00:03:27,884 --> 00:03:30,654 That was how I felt. 22 00:03:31,538 --> 00:03:35,887 And later they'd say "we know he's not interested"... 23 00:03:36,087 --> 00:03:38,060 "...but we'll just pay him a bit more." 24 00:03:38,260 --> 00:03:41,646 And sometimes... most of the time... 25 00:03:41,846 --> 00:03:44,072 Would you do it after all? -No, generally not. 26 00:03:44,272 --> 00:03:46,795 But sometimes I would. 27 00:03:47,407 --> 00:03:50,499 People are very easily offended here. 28 00:03:53,278 --> 00:03:56,143 If you're at a party here and you turn your back to someone... 29 00:03:56,343 --> 00:04:00,503 ...at the wrong moment, you're in trouble. 30 00:04:01,648 --> 00:04:04,595 That's why those parties are so strange. 31 00:04:04,795 --> 00:04:07,393 Everybody goes "Oh, how are you? Hi, how are you?" 32 00:04:07,488 --> 00:04:11,891 They're all constantly not turning their backs to each other. 33 00:04:13,893 --> 00:04:16,063 Very scary. 34 00:04:40,971 --> 00:04:43,807 Let me see. 35 00:04:47,462 --> 00:04:50,599 I'll open the screen. 36 00:04:50,799 --> 00:04:53,522 That's fun. 37 00:05:09,706 --> 00:05:12,080 Well... -What's this? 38 00:05:13,338 --> 00:05:16,977 This is a kind of garage. 39 00:05:17,177 --> 00:05:20,438 This is great fun. 40 00:05:21,511 --> 00:05:26,812 Bordering on strange. 41 00:05:29,185 --> 00:05:32,725 This is a couple of fans who thought they had to give me a star. 42 00:05:32,925 --> 00:05:38,762 Not an Oscar, but a real star. You can buy the name of a star. 43 00:05:38,962 --> 00:05:42,254 So they found a star next to Orion. 44 00:05:42,454 --> 00:05:45,220 Who thinks of that? 45 00:05:47,269 --> 00:05:50,834 This is a wall with stuff. 46 00:05:52,785 --> 00:05:56,413 Dandelions, a movie in Germany. 47 00:05:56,613 --> 00:05:59,992 After Turkish Delight, Eureka. 48 00:06:01,442 --> 00:06:03,257 Golden Globe Awards. 49 00:06:04,734 --> 00:06:09,235 A documentary about a homeless guy that I made. 50 00:06:09,771 --> 00:06:12,073 Dead or Alive. 51 00:06:12,273 --> 00:06:15,532 Wedlock, Blind Fury, Ladyhawke, Blind Side. 52 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:21,150 I made around a hundred of them. 53 00:06:21,350 --> 00:06:23,664 Legend of the Holy Drinker, NTSC. 54 00:06:29,900 --> 00:06:33,822 Buffy the Vampire Slayer, ok. 55 00:06:34,846 --> 00:06:39,018 Blind Fury. This is all VHS. 56 00:06:40,023 --> 00:06:44,640 This is almost all behind the scenes. 57 00:06:45,878 --> 00:06:48,073 This is really old stuff. 58 00:06:48,273 --> 00:06:52,961 I had around 15 movies documented in this way. 59 00:06:53,161 --> 00:06:55,649 What's on them? You? 60 00:06:55,849 --> 00:07:02,721 The rough work in action. 61 00:07:02,921 --> 00:07:03,722 What it's really like. 62 00:07:04,415 --> 00:07:08,448 Not how it's said to be. 63 00:07:16,583 --> 00:07:18,764 This is the dialogue coach. 64 00:07:18,964 --> 00:07:22,194 I pay 500 dollars for a session. 65 00:07:22,444 --> 00:07:26,311 What does he do? -He has to check my accent. 66 00:07:35,819 --> 00:07:37,920 For which part was this? 67 00:07:39,344 --> 00:07:42,070 I haven't figured that out yet. 68 00:08:04,669 --> 00:08:06,993 Let's see. 69 00:08:07,193 --> 00:08:10,021 This one, I think. 70 00:08:10,221 --> 00:08:13,447 REHEARSALS BLIND FURY (1989) 71 00:08:28,005 --> 00:08:31,116 Is this priceless? 72 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,962 In a week, he did the fight with me. 73 00:08:34,162 --> 00:08:36,028 I though I couldn't do it. 74 00:08:36,228 --> 00:08:39,328 The funny thing is that in a sword fight... 75 00:08:39,528 --> 00:08:44,241 ...if the other person's good, you look good too. 76 00:09:00,248 --> 00:09:06,256 The funny thing is that, for me, this isn't long ago. 77 00:09:07,101 --> 00:09:08,607 This is yesterday for me. 78 00:09:08,807 --> 00:09:10,927 Really? -Yes. 79 00:11:12,876 --> 00:11:16,148 This is how I pay the rent. It's good. 80 00:11:43,647 --> 00:11:48,746 I'm in the picture in a very strange way. Still. 81 00:11:48,946 --> 00:11:52,614 Sometimes I'm on the big screen. 82 00:11:52,794 --> 00:11:58,832 The rest travels the world on video, television and DVD. 83 00:11:59,032 --> 00:12:02,140 And I've done very different things. 84 00:12:08,265 --> 00:12:11,203 You can be good a certain number of times. 85 00:12:11,403 --> 00:12:17,953 When I do 10 movies, 7 are good. 86 00:12:19,323 --> 00:12:22,446 Five are quite decent and... 87 00:12:22,646 --> 00:12:26,242 ...two or three can be really good. 88 00:12:28,795 --> 00:12:36,651 To become an actor who's wanted, they have to see your face. 89 00:12:36,851 --> 00:12:40,370 And don't be too difficult about that. 90 00:12:40,479 --> 00:12:43,858 If they don't see your face, you're gone in no time. 91 00:12:50,491 --> 00:12:54,723 What I do is search. Search for... 92 00:12:54,923 --> 00:12:58,696 ...your limits, mainly. 93 00:12:59,843 --> 00:13:02,390 And it all depends on how hard you search. 94 00:13:02,590 --> 00:13:07,318 But... -Did you ever hit your head? 95 00:13:07,518 --> 00:13:13,372 Of course, definitely. But generally, that gets cut out of the movie. 96 00:13:14,036 --> 00:13:16,890 When you go too far. 97 00:13:17,090 --> 00:13:18,409 What happens then? 98 00:13:18,609 --> 00:13:22,272 That's not what we were talking about. 99 00:13:24,894 --> 00:13:28,434 What happens when it goes wrong? -Yes. 100 00:13:32,703 --> 00:13:34,772 I wanted to tell you something else, but now I lost it. 101 00:13:34,972 --> 00:13:37,000 But now I want to know this first. -Yes. 102 00:13:48,376 --> 00:13:52,101 You don't find my searching interesting. 103 00:13:52,301 --> 00:13:57,953 Yes, I do. But when you say that sometimes you end up somewhere... 104 00:13:58,828 --> 00:13:59,904 That seems scary to me. 105 00:14:00,104 --> 00:14:02,826 Then you make a movie that sucks. 106 00:14:03,026 --> 00:14:06,521 But it's so typically Dutch to start hammering on that. 107 00:14:06,721 --> 00:14:09,242 That's up to people themselves. 108 00:14:09,442 --> 00:14:13,722 How often can someone be brilliant in their lives? Add it up. 109 00:14:14,561 --> 00:14:18,385 Well? -No, that's up to you. 110 00:14:18,585 --> 00:14:21,741 I keep that to myself. 111 00:14:22,609 --> 00:14:24,409 Yes? -But a couple of times. 112 00:14:24,609 --> 00:14:26,613 A number of times, you'd say. 113 00:14:27,234 --> 00:14:28,698 But you don't want to say when. 114 00:14:28,898 --> 00:14:31,430 It's probably very different from what people think... 115 00:14:31,630 --> 00:14:34,593 ...no that's not true. They're just very special... 116 00:14:34,793 --> 00:14:36,928 It's your own standard. 117 00:14:37,128 --> 00:14:41,939 I think you found yourself brilliant in Legend of the Holy Drinker. 118 00:14:42,894 --> 00:14:44,870 Yes, that's true. 119 00:15:00,838 --> 00:15:10,562 It's best when you hardly notice it's acting. 120 00:15:10,762 --> 00:15:12,479 That's beautiful. 121 00:15:13,549 --> 00:15:16,874 When the skin's really thin... 122 00:15:17,074 --> 00:15:20,120 ...between the camera and your character. 123 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,388 I don't know how to explain, but there's a difference. 124 00:15:23,588 --> 00:15:28,450 The first thing the director, Ermanno Olmi, said to me... 125 00:15:37,072 --> 00:15:40,614 And I thought "I have to do this". 126 00:15:40,814 --> 00:15:44,526 Too much fun. See if I can do it. 127 00:15:47,486 --> 00:15:54,764 It's a fight between what you find interesting, in your heart... 128 00:15:56,086 --> 00:15:59,427 ...and what comes on your path. 129 00:16:00,244 --> 00:16:07,208 The fight's about to which degree you hold your ground. 130 00:16:07,408 --> 00:16:09,229 Can't you present yourself differently? 131 00:16:09,429 --> 00:16:13,625 As in "Mr Hauer wants to play romantic movies"? 132 00:16:13,825 --> 00:16:16,897 As in "Don't ask him to play the crazy creep anymore". 133 00:16:17,119 --> 00:16:19,927 No you shouldn't tell people what they have to do. 134 00:16:20,127 --> 00:16:22,455 Just look for it yourself. 135 00:16:22,655 --> 00:16:26,815 But how can you make them know you're in for something else? 136 00:16:29,186 --> 00:16:32,864 They don't think of it. It's always the same struggle. 137 00:16:33,706 --> 00:16:36,918 It's a struggle that you won't often win. 138 00:16:40,070 --> 00:16:42,016 Well, that's the question and... 139 00:16:42,216 --> 00:16:46,086 ...whether you... who wins. 140 00:16:48,439 --> 00:16:55,076 I think you can answer that yourself. 141 00:17:03,919 --> 00:17:07,136 ROMANIA 142 00:17:10,505 --> 00:17:13,751 SET SHOOTS CAMERA ASCUNSA (2004) 143 00:17:35,673 --> 00:17:37,645 I received an offer. 144 00:17:37,845 --> 00:17:39,942 Did I want to read the script? 145 00:17:40,142 --> 00:17:41,754 As simple as that. 146 00:17:41,954 --> 00:17:47,473 I read the script and I thought it could be fun. 147 00:17:47,673 --> 00:17:50,462 Good, exciting story. 148 00:17:52,238 --> 00:17:57,309 A love story and thirty years after Turkish Delight... 149 00:17:57,509 --> 00:17:59,888 ...I felt like it. 150 00:18:00,402 --> 00:18:04,737 It's the way we do it. That's the main thing. 151 00:18:04,937 --> 00:18:06,750 You can do it in many ways. 152 00:18:06,950 --> 00:18:09,778 But I like this way. Just in the street. 153 00:18:09,989 --> 00:18:14,409 Make-up in the street. Very little money, very few tricks. 154 00:18:14,609 --> 00:18:17,947 Everything has to be solved creatively. 155 00:18:18,147 --> 00:18:21,368 You stay very close to reality. 156 00:18:21,568 --> 00:18:23,402 Take this car that's coming. 157 00:18:23,602 --> 00:18:26,548 If we were shooting now, we'd have to use it. 158 00:18:29,897 --> 00:18:34,131 So we have a man with a lot of wood... 159 00:18:34,331 --> 00:18:39,114 ...and you wonder whether we need wood in the movie. 160 00:18:39,314 --> 00:18:44,079 Know what I mean? You're constantly wondering... 161 00:18:44,279 --> 00:18:47,947 ...whether something will be included or not. 162 00:18:50,406 --> 00:18:55,761 It's impossible to do that while it's being paid. 163 00:18:55,961 --> 00:19:00,749 You just give it to yourself as a present. 164 00:19:01,777 --> 00:19:03,355 And then you wait and see if it works. 165 00:19:03,555 --> 00:19:06,198 And if it works really well, you get something very beautiful. 166 00:19:06,398 --> 00:19:09,263 And that becomes part of your career. 167 00:19:09,463 --> 00:19:12,957 Even if no one will ever see it, it still exists. 168 00:19:39,145 --> 00:19:41,319 It's going well. 169 00:19:41,519 --> 00:19:43,804 Do I touch him there? No. Ok. 170 00:20:03,659 --> 00:20:05,767 Can you see your house from here? 171 00:20:05,967 --> 00:20:10,825 Yes, there. One of those concrete stumps. 172 00:20:11,025 --> 00:20:13,858 One of those apartment buildings? -Those concrete stumps, yes. 173 00:20:22,294 --> 00:20:24,428 This is the most beautiful thing there is. 174 00:20:24,628 --> 00:20:30,880 Out on the ocean, you feel finiteness and infiniteness at the same time. 175 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,919 That's such a beautiful feeling. 176 00:20:34,593 --> 00:20:38,086 The big cradle of mama Water. 177 00:20:38,286 --> 00:20:41,063 Have you always felt this? -Yes, always. 178 00:20:42,255 --> 00:20:44,026 Always, yes. 179 00:20:45,198 --> 00:20:47,128 Even as a child? -Yes, definitely. 180 00:20:47,361 --> 00:20:50,964 I was always swimming in the Amstel, in between the turds. 181 00:20:51,164 --> 00:20:53,600 Lovely. 182 00:20:58,288 --> 00:21:01,577 A bit of a wild, rough boy, I think. 183 00:21:01,777 --> 00:21:03,939 And sweet, very sweet. 184 00:21:08,794 --> 00:21:14,094 I think that was the very first sentence I could say. 185 00:21:14,294 --> 00:21:17,632 "Do you think I'm sweet?" I had a thick Amsterdam accent. 186 00:21:18,255 --> 00:21:20,217 "Do you think I'm sweet?" 187 00:21:21,022 --> 00:21:26,964 My mother came back from Indonesia. A cultural trip with my father. 188 00:21:27,164 --> 00:21:30,509 They had done some acting there. Indonesia. On a ship. 189 00:21:31,347 --> 00:21:36,060 And I was two or three. 190 00:21:36,260 --> 00:21:40,085 I was a bit slow with everything. Slow with walking. 191 00:21:40,500 --> 00:21:42,331 Slow with talking. 192 00:21:42,531 --> 00:21:44,989 But my first sentence after they'd come back was... 193 00:21:45,189 --> 00:21:47,276 ..."Do you think I'm sweet?" 194 00:21:47,476 --> 00:21:50,613 But... who was it? 195 00:21:52,607 --> 00:21:54,943 "Els says I'm sweet." 196 00:21:56,338 --> 00:21:58,469 That was the nanny. 197 00:22:00,898 --> 00:22:03,426 Yes. 198 00:22:08,383 --> 00:22:11,263 Let me see. A bit... 199 00:22:19,036 --> 00:22:20,976 There it is. 200 00:22:40,945 --> 00:22:42,986 I like to go away. 201 00:22:43,542 --> 00:22:47,017 To go work and film a bit. 202 00:22:47,217 --> 00:22:49,994 But coming home is the best. 203 00:22:52,084 --> 00:22:55,734 And where is home? -In Friesland. 204 00:22:55,934 --> 00:23:01,132 I found out there are five centuries of Frisians in my mother's blood. 205 00:23:01,332 --> 00:23:05,773 So that's why I've always wanted to live there. 206 00:23:07,070 --> 00:23:10,554 And the other anchor's my wife. 207 00:23:13,823 --> 00:23:16,554 We've been together for 35 years. 208 00:23:16,754 --> 00:23:22,274 It can be difficult. We're away from each other a lot. 209 00:23:22,474 --> 00:23:26,907 And then suddenly we're back together for a month. 210 00:23:31,538 --> 00:23:37,166 It's beautiful. She's a real anchor for me. 211 00:23:39,879 --> 00:23:44,245 And then there's nothing for a long time. 212 00:23:44,445 --> 00:23:47,336 And then there's the rest of the world. 213 00:24:04,159 --> 00:24:06,735 It's always such fun. -Hello, sir. 214 00:24:06,935 --> 00:24:08,477 Do you come here often? 215 00:24:08,780 --> 00:24:12,459 I live here too. Bye! -Have fun. 216 00:24:12,584 --> 00:24:15,086 See you later! -Yes. 217 00:24:18,692 --> 00:24:23,181 I'm having black coffee on the rocks. 218 00:24:24,236 --> 00:24:26,912 Normally, this is a whisky. 219 00:24:27,112 --> 00:24:32,163 That's Ineke when we got to know each other. 220 00:24:32,363 --> 00:24:38,180 This is Ineke's brother and he became my best friend. 221 00:24:39,007 --> 00:24:43,258 He died at the age of 29, from Hodgkin's disease. 222 00:24:44,671 --> 00:24:48,071 The only real movie star. 223 00:24:48,975 --> 00:24:52,676 The statues are also from LA. The first thing I ever bought. 224 00:24:52,876 --> 00:24:55,512 They're made of bumpers. 225 00:24:55,712 --> 00:24:59,719 They are? -Yes. 226 00:25:00,893 --> 00:25:03,753 Statues made of bumpers. Who thinks of that? 227 00:25:05,385 --> 00:25:10,051 This is my KLM... That's is how often I flew up and down. 228 00:25:12,863 --> 00:25:14,749 See? 229 00:25:14,949 --> 00:25:18,062 They used to give you a house each time. 230 00:25:18,262 --> 00:25:23,258 Only in Business class. -I don't fly Economy. 231 00:25:23,458 --> 00:25:25,258 That's clear? 232 00:25:27,302 --> 00:25:29,018 Well. 233 00:25:33,206 --> 00:25:37,951 "De boer moat sels de leie hauwe." A Frisian saying. 234 00:25:38,151 --> 00:25:39,776 What does it mean? 235 00:25:39,976 --> 00:25:44,584 That the farmer has to hold the reins himself. 236 00:25:44,784 --> 00:25:47,348 This one's also good. "Fan bûgjen frjemd." 237 00:25:47,907 --> 00:25:49,982 It basically means "stubborn". 238 00:25:51,088 --> 00:25:54,047 "Fan bûgjen frjemd." 239 00:25:59,932 --> 00:26:02,685 Do you spend much time here? -Yes. 240 00:26:03,774 --> 00:26:05,869 When we're home, we're here. 241 00:26:06,069 --> 00:26:08,471 Are you ever home? -Yes. 242 00:26:09,465 --> 00:26:14,268 You haven't been home for a year. -That's true. 243 00:26:17,638 --> 00:26:22,918 When we're both home, we're here. We live in all the rooms. 244 00:26:26,041 --> 00:26:34,113 This is from... let me see... just after Floris. 245 00:26:34,628 --> 00:26:39,115 This is Nellie... Two of our dogs. We had three of them. 246 00:26:39,957 --> 00:26:47,001 I had done a workshop with poetry reading. Very artistic and all. 247 00:26:47,201 --> 00:26:48,723 In Heerenveen. 248 00:26:49,331 --> 00:26:54,622 And my car didn't start. It was cold. 249 00:26:54,822 --> 00:26:59,754 And her brother said I could sleep at his place. 250 00:27:00,750 --> 00:27:03,708 Ok. 251 00:27:03,908 --> 00:27:09,022 The next day I woke up and I got breakfast in bed. 252 00:27:09,222 --> 00:27:12,726 I'd never had that before. From her mother. 253 00:27:12,926 --> 00:27:15,658 And she was in the room. 254 00:27:18,057 --> 00:27:20,966 She said "let's go to the dyke". 255 00:27:21,166 --> 00:27:23,126 "I'll get some wood." 256 00:27:23,326 --> 00:27:26,132 So I said "sure, I'll come to the dyke". 257 00:27:28,963 --> 00:27:34,310 So we talked a bit on the dyke. Very exciting. 258 00:27:35,185 --> 00:27:37,498 And very warm, from the start. 259 00:27:39,084 --> 00:27:41,477 And she knew right away. 260 00:27:41,652 --> 00:27:44,127 I didn't get it at first. 261 00:27:44,672 --> 00:27:51,177 But I did think she was a very special woman. 262 00:27:52,189 --> 00:27:53,921 A bit scary, actually. 263 00:27:54,121 --> 00:27:56,762 "She's mine", you thought. 264 00:27:57,078 --> 00:27:59,561 No, I didn't think that was possible. 265 00:27:59,761 --> 00:28:01,655 That can't be true. 266 00:28:02,949 --> 00:28:05,018 That's not possible. 267 00:28:05,218 --> 00:28:08,226 You can't... 268 00:28:09,630 --> 00:28:13,858 I had no plans at all, but I did think... 269 00:28:15,323 --> 00:28:19,027 ...you can't just... 270 00:28:19,227 --> 00:28:22,542 You can't feel that at home with someone. Impossible. 271 00:28:22,742 --> 00:28:24,381 That's scary. 272 00:28:25,336 --> 00:28:29,560 I had to think about it for a long time, but you can't stop it. 273 00:28:30,340 --> 00:28:32,456 That would be very stupid. 274 00:28:34,244 --> 00:28:36,669 Yes. 275 00:28:37,417 --> 00:28:42,383 He made a big impression on me. I thought he was very handsome. 276 00:28:42,583 --> 00:28:47,010 Jesus, what was that at my mother's kitchen table all of a sudden? 277 00:28:47,210 --> 00:28:51,182 A blond God. Totally innocent. 278 00:28:51,382 --> 00:28:54,243 Right away, I thought "bloody hell". 279 00:28:54,443 --> 00:28:58,623 I was rather experienced. I was a naughty girl. 280 00:28:58,823 --> 00:29:02,714 It felt like I had come home. 281 00:29:02,914 --> 00:29:05,724 I knew it was him, right away. Such a strange feeling. 282 00:29:06,242 --> 00:29:09,503 As if I knew him from a previous life. 283 00:29:09,703 --> 00:29:11,772 That's him. Over and out. 284 00:29:12,407 --> 00:29:15,197 And that's how it went. We never left each other since that day. 285 00:29:35,184 --> 00:29:38,603 I was attracted by the intellectual farmer. 286 00:29:38,803 --> 00:29:42,079 A man with big hands, on a tractor... 287 00:29:45,647 --> 00:29:50,937 ...reading beautiful poetry and saying beautiful things. 288 00:29:51,137 --> 00:29:56,639 Totally obsessed by theatre and poetry. 289 00:29:57,625 --> 00:30:02,954 I thought it was beautiful and I felt touched by it. 290 00:30:03,154 --> 00:30:10,026 He was familiar with Chet Baker, but also with Bach's cantata's. 291 00:30:10,909 --> 00:30:16,440 The combination of down to earth and very poetic. 292 00:30:20,708 --> 00:30:24,224 His car was always full of costume parts. 293 00:30:24,424 --> 00:30:26,817 Shoes with big buckles... 294 00:30:27,453 --> 00:30:29,491 Really strange things. 295 00:30:29,691 --> 00:30:31,950 And I thought he was very interesting. 296 00:30:32,150 --> 00:30:35,109 That's how it came about. And then he moved in. 297 00:30:35,309 --> 00:30:36,414 Right away? 298 00:30:37,035 --> 00:30:40,242 Yes, he had no house so he moved in with my parents and me. 299 00:30:41,165 --> 00:30:42,835 I lived at home at that time. 300 00:30:43,035 --> 00:30:48,245 After three months we rented a house together, here in Friesland. 301 00:30:48,445 --> 00:30:49,829 He was with the Noorder Compagnie theatre company. 302 00:30:50,029 --> 00:30:52,291 Floris was just being released. 303 00:30:53,408 --> 00:30:59,624 And then it all started. Fame, bags of mail. A good time. 304 00:30:59,824 --> 00:31:02,612 We didn't have a cent, but it was great. 305 00:31:02,812 --> 00:31:05,856 Hippies having a lot of fun. 306 00:31:35,102 --> 00:31:39,433 I really enjoy driving somewhere, instead of flying. 307 00:31:39,633 --> 00:31:40,829 I built it myself. 308 00:31:41,679 --> 00:31:45,907 I made 15 films with it, abroad. 309 00:31:47,255 --> 00:31:50,267 Driving is the most fun, because it's always a big adventure. 310 00:31:50,467 --> 00:31:54,882 It's a big thing and I want to park on top of the mountain, of course. 311 00:31:55,738 --> 00:31:59,737 Where it's beautiful and nice. 312 00:31:59,937 --> 00:32:03,399 But that's why I have my motorcycle, so I can drive around... 313 00:32:03,599 --> 00:32:04,781 ...to see where I can park. 314 00:32:04,980 --> 00:32:07,763 So your motorcycle is included. -Yes, it's at the front. 315 00:32:09,358 --> 00:32:11,686 This wallpaper fascinates me. 316 00:32:12,094 --> 00:32:14,602 It's a wild little wallpaper. 317 00:32:14,802 --> 00:32:17,481 Who picked it? -I did. 318 00:32:17,681 --> 00:32:21,122 I saw it and I thought it would be fun. 319 00:32:22,059 --> 00:32:23,763 I see a knight. 320 00:32:23,963 --> 00:32:27,562 Maybe it has some psychological meaning. 321 00:32:27,762 --> 00:32:29,763 The old knight, yes. 322 00:32:38,405 --> 00:32:42,082 I started it because I thought it would be fun. 323 00:32:42,282 --> 00:32:45,510 I didn't have a career abroad yet. 324 00:32:45,710 --> 00:32:47,861 During Soldier of Orange, I had a bus and... 325 00:32:48,061 --> 00:32:53,089 ...afterwards I thought that if I would ever work abroad... 326 00:32:53,289 --> 00:32:55,508 ...then it would be handy to have one. 327 00:32:55,708 --> 00:32:58,057 That's how it started. I didn't know what would happen. 328 00:32:58,257 --> 00:33:00,124 It was just a gamble. 329 00:33:00,324 --> 00:33:05,564 I've seen a few things coming and anticipated a bit. 330 00:33:05,764 --> 00:33:08,148 Or you wanted it a lot. 331 00:33:08,348 --> 00:33:13,144 I didn't give a shit. It was interesting and fun... 332 00:33:13,444 --> 00:33:17,685 ...but I didn't think "that has to become my career". 333 00:33:17,885 --> 00:33:20,331 I thought it wasn't possible, actually. 334 00:33:20,531 --> 00:33:27,857 It took me a long time to realise I was really a movie actor and... 335 00:33:28,057 --> 00:33:30,592 ...it just kept going. 336 00:33:30,730 --> 00:33:34,567 He was still searching. He was only 25 or 26. 337 00:33:34,767 --> 00:33:41,348 He was kind of the first famous movie star in the Netherlands. 338 00:33:41,548 --> 00:33:47,868 We didn't know a thing. We just went to the US for fun. 339 00:33:48,068 --> 00:33:52,782 Sometimes we were barefoot. You wouldn't do that anymore. 340 00:33:53,138 --> 00:33:56,454 We just parked the camper in front of a huge agent's office... 341 00:33:57,173 --> 00:34:01,303 Dirty, straight from the mountains. We weren't even wearing shoes. 342 00:34:01,503 --> 00:34:03,939 In a filthy suit and we'd just go there. 343 00:34:04,139 --> 00:34:07,938 To see if they wanted to represent him. 344 00:34:08,138 --> 00:34:12,267 And that didn't work. 345 00:34:12,467 --> 00:34:16,654 Didn't you have to go to parties in Los Angeles and things like that? 346 00:34:16,854 --> 00:34:19,970 We never did that. No. 347 00:34:21,739 --> 00:34:25,777 No, except if it was fun. If there was a reason. 348 00:34:25,977 --> 00:34:29,741 We didn't do things because it's good for your career. 349 00:34:29,941 --> 00:34:33,103 Or because it's important for later. Never. 350 00:34:33,303 --> 00:34:37,260 Only for people we loved and who we had fun with. 351 00:34:37,460 --> 00:34:40,043 How did you get out of it? -We just didn't go. 352 00:34:41,070 --> 00:34:43,121 No, we just didn't do that. 353 00:35:04,117 --> 00:35:08,280 During shooting of The Hitcher, I decided to... 354 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,626 ...become more flexible in the way I worked. 355 00:35:11,826 --> 00:35:18,573 Less stubborn or angry or grumpy or pig-headed. 356 00:35:19,383 --> 00:35:22,079 And a bit scared, maybe. 357 00:35:22,867 --> 00:35:25,889 I was always fighting against everything. That was very difficult. 358 00:35:26,089 --> 00:35:27,585 A waste of energy. 359 00:35:27,854 --> 00:35:30,747 RUTGER OUR HERO 360 00:35:31,733 --> 00:35:34,145 He's become a lot more accessible. 361 00:35:34,345 --> 00:35:40,166 He used to be considered inaccessible and fairly difficult. 362 00:35:40,366 --> 00:35:43,890 And that has changed. 363 00:35:46,509 --> 00:35:51,653 Are you involved with the things he does? Roles and scripts? 364 00:35:51,853 --> 00:35:52,923 I'm not. 365 00:35:53,721 --> 00:35:56,732 Not that I don't care, but he does what he does. 366 00:35:56,932 --> 00:36:01,290 I can say that I like something or that I don't, of course. 367 00:36:01,490 --> 00:36:03,817 But that doesn't make much of a difference to him. 368 00:36:12,233 --> 00:36:15,346 When you're together you want the other person to be happy and... 369 00:36:15,646 --> 00:36:22,695 ...you have to allow them to do what they want to do in life. 370 00:36:22,895 --> 00:36:28,405 You have to encourage them and give them that freedom, even if that's hard. 371 00:36:28,996 --> 00:36:32,815 You have to let them go. 372 00:36:33,015 --> 00:36:36,914 If you can't, you're destined to fail. 373 00:36:37,114 --> 00:36:41,245 I can't live without him, but I'm almost always without him. 374 00:37:06,168 --> 00:37:08,639 Is that true? 375 00:37:09,094 --> 00:37:11,906 I'll do what she says. 376 00:37:15,561 --> 00:37:20,085 The past 18 months... 377 00:37:20,285 --> 00:37:25,902 ...I've done about 8 different things. 378 00:37:27,612 --> 00:37:30,918 All kinds of things. 379 00:37:31,118 --> 00:37:37,801 I haven't been this busy since '87. 380 00:37:38,001 --> 00:37:40,733 Can you name a few things? 381 00:37:43,345 --> 00:37:46,453 Moving McAllister. 382 00:37:50,796 --> 00:37:53,143 I don't know. 383 00:37:53,343 --> 00:37:55,464 It's gone. 384 00:37:55,664 --> 00:37:59,402 I remember two weeks ago, but not any further. 385 00:37:59,602 --> 00:38:01,283 Why do you do it then? 386 00:38:01,483 --> 00:38:05,470 At the beginning of my career, I already thought... 387 00:38:05,670 --> 00:38:13,022 ...that if I only did what I find really interesting... 388 00:38:13,163 --> 00:38:16,694 ...then I wouldn't exist as an actor, because I wouldn't do enough. 389 00:38:20,963 --> 00:38:26,916 I wouldn't do enough to be an actor. 390 00:38:27,213 --> 00:38:31,519 I do about a third for the money... let me think... 391 00:38:32,110 --> 00:38:42,634 ...a third for the money, a third for artistic reasons and a third for... 392 00:38:44,508 --> 00:38:49,274 ...new talent, interesting strange things... 393 00:38:49,474 --> 00:38:50,846 I follow that line a bit. 394 00:38:51,046 --> 00:38:54,296 In which category does this film, Goal, fall? 395 00:38:54,496 --> 00:38:56,922 That's the category of... 396 00:38:57,563 --> 00:39:01,482 ...a job in... 397 00:39:03,143 --> 00:39:06,715 ...a reasonable job in a... 398 00:39:08,206 --> 00:39:12,984 ...a decent movie for children. More or less. 399 00:39:13,184 --> 00:39:14,647 Something like that. 400 00:39:14,783 --> 00:39:21,923 This is a very nice way to make some money. 401 00:39:23,792 --> 00:39:29,797 This is Real Madrid. The football Mecca of Madrid. 402 00:39:29,997 --> 00:39:33,650 And you're the coach of this team. -Yes. 403 00:40:59,230 --> 00:41:02,094 How much did you know about football? -Nothing. 404 00:41:03,201 --> 00:41:04,803 Still nothing. 405 00:41:05,265 --> 00:41:08,917 So you arrive here and they say you're a football trainer. 406 00:41:09,117 --> 00:41:11,209 And you don't know anything about it. 407 00:41:11,323 --> 00:41:13,887 No, so you wonder what's in the script. 408 00:41:14,087 --> 00:41:18,698 And then the director tells me to have a look at this or that. 409 00:41:18,898 --> 00:41:23,218 And then you see a few matches. 410 00:41:23,418 --> 00:41:26,687 You try to talk to players a bit and then... 411 00:41:26,887 --> 00:41:29,396 ...I know more than enough, I think. 412 00:41:29,596 --> 00:41:35,202 And they want a strict coach. 413 00:41:35,402 --> 00:41:39,594 In football, they want a strict coach who says: "Bloody hell, no bullshit". 414 00:41:40,757 --> 00:41:44,893 So you do that. Not too sweet, not too nice. 415 00:41:45,093 --> 00:41:46,958 That's how it works. 416 00:42:14,122 --> 00:42:16,679 I think I get it. 417 00:42:16,879 --> 00:42:19,763 The ball goes in there or in there. 418 00:42:20,570 --> 00:42:25,315 And when you want to tell them something... 419 00:42:25,515 --> 00:42:29,446 ...you walk forward and you wait. 420 00:42:29,646 --> 00:42:31,618 You always see that. 421 00:42:33,470 --> 00:42:36,099 And that's it. 422 00:42:44,850 --> 00:42:51,984 The hardest thing is that you have to play an authority... 423 00:42:52,767 --> 00:42:55,580 ...with a certain warmth. 424 00:42:55,780 --> 00:42:59,736 The main thing is to achieve that for a role like this. 425 00:42:59,936 --> 00:43:01,977 That's very hard. 426 00:43:03,216 --> 00:43:07,182 A man like that is a bit of a priest and an army commander. 427 00:43:07,382 --> 00:43:11,753 Those clubs are run like the army. 428 00:43:12,908 --> 00:43:17,008 Men! We're going to... 429 00:43:17,286 --> 00:43:20,147 With a lot of this. 430 00:43:20,281 --> 00:43:23,006 But I want to make it exciting. 431 00:45:11,042 --> 00:45:13,244 You always stay at the surface a bit. 432 00:45:13,909 --> 00:45:20,009 I do it, but I stay aware. 433 00:45:21,511 --> 00:45:24,962 I don't lose myself in the... 434 00:45:26,161 --> 00:45:30,840 I don't forget I'm an actor. I act with the audience... 435 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,467 ...that I'm the coach. 436 00:45:33,667 --> 00:45:35,577 That's the game. 437 00:46:02,277 --> 00:46:03,975 What do you have to do? 438 00:46:04,175 --> 00:46:07,049 Walk alongside them or something. 439 00:46:39,616 --> 00:46:42,353 And... let me see... 440 00:46:43,094 --> 00:46:44,649 Well... 441 00:46:47,655 --> 00:46:53,302 Having some fun. Fooling around with that camera. 442 00:46:53,502 --> 00:46:56,284 A glass of wine... 443 00:46:56,484 --> 00:46:59,682 This is about the beginning, about how we met. 444 00:46:59,882 --> 00:47:01,776 For Soldier of Orange. 445 00:47:02,486 --> 00:47:04,088 When did you record this? 446 00:47:05,052 --> 00:47:06,391 About two months ago. 447 00:47:06,591 --> 00:47:09,369 I was on the way home and I went to see him in Hawaii. 448 00:47:09,469 --> 00:47:10,938 ERIK HAZELHOFF ROELFZEMA SOLDIER OF ORANGE 449 00:47:11,138 --> 00:47:15,410 Our lives are very much connected. 450 00:47:15,490 --> 00:47:19,448 We don't exist without each other, in a strange way. 451 00:47:19,648 --> 00:47:20,978 Because of that movie? -Yes. 452 00:47:21,178 --> 00:47:24,074 Never before did two actors, dressed in evening dress... 453 00:47:24,274 --> 00:47:26,080 ...arrived at a premiere, on motorcycles. 454 00:47:26,373 --> 00:47:30,000 Rutger Hauer and Jeroen Krabbé did this for Soldier of Orange. 455 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,401 After the first showing, Erik Hazelhoff Roelfzema... 456 00:47:33,601 --> 00:47:36,079 ...on whose autobiography the movie was based... 457 00:47:36,321 --> 00:47:38,436 ...introduced the cast to the audience. 458 00:47:38,636 --> 00:47:40,857 First Rutger Hauer. 459 00:47:42,729 --> 00:47:44,217 I just started out as an actor... 460 00:47:44,852 --> 00:47:48,164 ...and I didn't think I amounted to much... 461 00:47:48,623 --> 00:47:51,605 ...as an actor... so that I could... 462 00:47:51,805 --> 00:47:54,157 ...do this in a genuine way. 463 00:47:54,486 --> 00:47:56,613 I doubted that very much. 464 00:47:56,813 --> 00:47:59,098 I felt I had to try really hard... 465 00:47:59,832 --> 00:48:02,212 ...to become him rather than... 466 00:48:02,820 --> 00:48:06,875 ...do what I did in Turkish Delight. 467 00:48:07,075 --> 00:48:13,114 That wasn't so much acting, that character was pretty much me. 468 00:48:14,219 --> 00:48:16,544 This was really a role. 469 00:48:19,911 --> 00:48:22,658 He helped me at many moments. 470 00:48:23,965 --> 00:48:26,784 If didn't know what to do, I talked to him. 471 00:48:26,984 --> 00:48:31,302 And within 15 minutes he'd say something that would help me out. 472 00:48:31,502 --> 00:48:36,214 And he was always like "just do it like this". 473 00:48:36,414 --> 00:48:39,620 And then I'd think he was right. 474 00:48:39,820 --> 00:48:42,607 A team consisting of a man and woman... -Yes, you stop talking now. 475 00:48:42,725 --> 00:48:46,959 About you now. 476 00:48:47,159 --> 00:48:51,723 He's become a father to me. A friend and a father. 477 00:48:51,923 --> 00:48:54,099 For the rest of my life. 478 00:48:54,299 --> 00:48:56,465 But how about your own father? 479 00:48:56,665 --> 00:49:02,546 He was a very exceptional and stubborn man. 480 00:49:02,746 --> 00:49:05,129 And an actor, right? -And an actor. 481 00:49:05,329 --> 00:49:08,618 My father had had a hard time during the war. 482 00:49:08,818 --> 00:49:12,525 He was in his thirties when it started. 483 00:49:12,725 --> 00:49:18,227 He was just becoming successful in theatre. 484 00:49:18,427 --> 00:49:19,887 He had a certain name. 485 00:49:20,256 --> 00:49:23,368 But he kind of missed his chance because the war started. 486 00:49:23,568 --> 00:49:33,391 I always felt he was disappointed about how things went. 487 00:49:33,591 --> 00:49:37,769 Did he witness how successful you became? 488 00:49:37,969 --> 00:49:41,515 He saw a bit of it. 489 00:49:41,715 --> 00:49:46,468 They were a bit afraid of... 490 00:49:47,006 --> 00:49:51,631 Turkish Delight was way too nude. They didn't get that at all. 491 00:49:51,831 --> 00:49:57,375 Turkish Delight just didn't exist in their lives. 492 00:49:57,575 --> 00:49:59,364 Were they at the premiere? 493 00:49:59,564 --> 00:50:05,767 No, they were afraid. I'm not sure why they weren't there. 494 00:50:05,967 --> 00:50:10,281 I don't know if I... I don't know exactly. 495 00:50:10,481 --> 00:50:16,016 It took fairly long before they realised that it was... 496 00:50:16,216 --> 00:50:19,423 ...fairly serious. 497 00:50:20,839 --> 00:50:25,364 Yes, it's very... yes... 498 00:50:26,568 --> 00:50:29,720 At the end of his life, we had one talk... 499 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:34,401 I asked him why we had never done this before. 500 00:50:34,601 --> 00:50:37,146 And he said "I don't know". 501 00:50:37,346 --> 00:50:40,560 And that was the goodbye. That's what happened. 502 00:50:41,689 --> 00:50:44,067 That was the last time I talked to him. 503 00:50:44,267 --> 00:50:49,260 It was very strange. How is it possible? 504 00:50:50,622 --> 00:50:53,427 It's also a bit sad. 505 00:50:53,627 --> 00:50:56,062 It's a shame, isn't it? -Yes. 506 00:50:56,945 --> 00:50:59,010 But the big joke of life is... 507 00:50:59,210 --> 00:51:01,837 ...that when you start thinking about everything that's a shame... 508 00:51:02,037 --> 00:51:03,553 ...then you get very sad. 509 00:51:03,722 --> 00:51:12,328 I think it's the journey, not the destination. 510 00:51:17,309 --> 00:51:20,792 Yes, what you miss in life, was not your destination. 511 00:51:22,927 --> 00:51:24,653 I think that's very funny... 512 00:51:24,853 --> 00:51:27,994 ...because I meet many people who... 513 00:51:29,184 --> 00:51:34,647 ...say "this was missing" and "that was missing". 514 00:51:34,847 --> 00:51:39,484 And that means today isn't good enough. 515 00:51:39,684 --> 00:51:43,531 And then I think "talk about a shame"! 516 00:52:55,939 --> 00:52:59,403 I think I'm much more like my parents than I used to think. 517 00:52:59,824 --> 00:53:01,599 The need to play. 518 00:53:01,799 --> 00:53:04,506 I'm addicted to it. 519 00:53:07,371 --> 00:53:09,447 Life to me is a game. 520 00:53:09,647 --> 00:53:12,210 And I play a role in it. 521 00:53:12,942 --> 00:53:15,528 Which role? -The role of actor. 522 00:53:16,102 --> 00:53:17,793 It's never true. 523 00:53:17,993 --> 00:53:23,790 It's as if you try to peel a bit of skin of... 524 00:53:23,990 --> 00:53:28,046 You want to free yourself of a bit of skin, layers of DNA. 525 00:53:28,246 --> 00:53:31,322 You name it. Layers of pain. 526 00:53:31,522 --> 00:53:34,693 And some don't come off, but others do. 527 00:53:34,893 --> 00:53:37,723 And that's a relief. 528 00:53:38,136 --> 00:53:45,152 That's how you've decided you can deal with life. Or how you want to. 529 00:53:45,316 --> 00:53:47,787 No, I haven't decided that. 530 00:53:47,987 --> 00:53:51,445 I'm not that rational. My head always runs behind. 531 00:53:52,383 --> 00:53:57,672 Just like many of my characters, I act first. 532 00:53:57,872 --> 00:54:01,572 And then they think "2 times 2 = 4". 533 00:54:02,562 --> 00:54:05,337 Or they start calculating or thinking. 534 00:54:06,792 --> 00:54:11,953 It's a very exciting game against myself. 535 00:54:12,153 --> 00:54:16,436 It's strange, but you're looking for something. 536 00:54:17,354 --> 00:54:21,303 When you stop searching, it's over. 537 00:54:21,503 --> 00:54:27,034 To me, almost every movie can become a master piece. 538 00:54:27,234 --> 00:54:30,640 But you do need a master at the helm. 539 00:54:32,999 --> 00:54:36,083 Blade Runner was very funny... 540 00:54:36,283 --> 00:54:41,765 ...because everything had been planned and built months in advance. 541 00:54:41,965 --> 00:54:45,639 It's funny that... 542 00:54:45,839 --> 00:54:48,478 ...a coin can still drop. 543 00:54:48,724 --> 00:54:50,449 And that's unplanned. 544 00:54:50,649 --> 00:54:54,712 A coin like the pigeon... you know. 545 00:54:54,822 --> 00:54:56,439 What do you mean, the pigeon? 546 00:54:56,639 --> 00:55:03,213 That pigeon wasn't in the script. 547 00:55:07,201 --> 00:55:12,534 While you're searching for something, you get these strange ideas or... 548 00:55:12,734 --> 00:55:17,735 ...these ideas come from somewhere. 549 00:55:17,935 --> 00:55:20,039 They're unplanned. 550 00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:27,708 And some of these coincidences, if they work well, make it very special. 551 00:55:48,211 --> 00:55:51,458 There was a page of text and we got rid of it. 552 00:55:51,985 --> 00:55:55,338 Three sentences and then the pigeon. 553 00:55:55,398 --> 00:55:57,757 When you let it go, it flies off. 554 00:55:57,957 --> 00:56:01,974 And then you don't have to say it. Visual language. 555 00:56:02,174 --> 00:56:07,194 It happened to work out well. 556 00:56:08,046 --> 00:56:11,768 The script is often only an indication... 557 00:56:11,968 --> 00:56:15,002 ...of what the movie will become. 558 00:56:34,328 --> 00:56:38,925 The fact that the world thinks you have to be Spielberg... 559 00:56:39,125 --> 00:56:42,157 ...or that you have to win Oscars, doesn't mean anything to me. 560 00:56:43,621 --> 00:56:45,930 I don't care. 561 00:56:50,740 --> 00:56:52,709 If you lose your feeling for the outside world... 562 00:56:52,903 --> 00:56:59,750 ...and if you lose real human feelings... 563 00:56:59,950 --> 00:57:03,928 ...then you've chosen Hollywood and that's not good. 564 00:57:04,128 --> 00:57:09,293 And I don't intend to play along with that. 565 00:57:09,493 --> 00:57:10,543 Did you ever? 566 00:57:10,743 --> 00:57:15,893 Well, as a person, you go through certain developments. 567 00:57:16,093 --> 00:57:18,656 And then you think "couldn't I have thought of this ten years ago?" 568 00:57:18,856 --> 00:57:25,467 That has to do with the phase you're in. 569 00:57:25,667 --> 00:57:27,581 That you're too stupid for something. 570 00:57:27,781 --> 00:57:33,369 The truth is always welcome but your mind has to be open to it. 571 00:57:33,569 --> 00:57:38,318 Certain mistakes you see in your own development... 572 00:57:38,518 --> 00:57:43,686 Like what, for instance? -I... don't know that. 573 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,946 I'm not going to tell you. Wouldn't make me more interesting. 574 00:57:54,146 --> 00:57:56,292 No? 575 00:57:58,005 --> 00:58:01,822 Do you want to be a mystery? -That's fine with me. 576 00:58:09,137 --> 00:58:13,194 The risk is that you start to believe what's not true. 577 00:58:13,394 --> 00:58:19,022 That's typical for an actor... for the outside world. 578 00:58:19,222 --> 00:58:25,253 That so much hot air is blown your way that you start to think they're right. 579 00:58:25,453 --> 00:58:29,499 And I've had that at times, but not for long. 580 00:58:29,699 --> 00:58:32,856 What did you think? -That I'm great. 581 00:58:33,056 --> 00:58:38,685 But I can't keep that up and that's not modesty. 582 00:58:54,380 --> 00:58:57,857 It's in the beginning, you know... 583 00:58:59,750 --> 00:59:02,307 Why can't you keep thinking you're great? 584 00:59:04,052 --> 00:59:06,483 Because it's not true. 585 00:59:06,683 --> 00:59:08,675 Besides, it's not important. 586 00:59:08,875 --> 00:59:11,167 That's for others to decide. 587 00:59:12,416 --> 00:59:14,423 Who gives a shit? 588 00:59:16,694 --> 00:59:18,805 Just do your best. 589 00:59:23,683 --> 00:59:28,563 It's a big relief to understand... 590 00:59:28,763 --> 00:59:32,641 ...that it's alright if people don't understand you. 591 00:59:32,841 --> 00:59:35,484 They get you or they don't.