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Hello, dear friends, I'm interviewing Akbar Butaev aka SoNNeikO. Hello, Akbar

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Hi.

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We can finally talk. I've been trying to arrange this interview for quite a long time.

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Thank you very much for agreeing to it. Many people are waiting for it.

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So I'll ask a lot, but not too much, so that you don't get tired.

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My first question is: you're a newcomer in eSports.

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Tell us how you understood that you wanted to play Dota and video games.

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I began playing Dota 2 2-3 years ago, but before that I'd been playing first Dota for 1,5 months.

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The first Dota didn't impress me much, and I decided to try the second Dota,

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'cause people suggested me trying it, when I played first Dota.

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I began playing in late December 2012. My friend gave me invite with a gift or something like that.

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I began playing it. Eventually, I liked playing it. I played for about 2 years...

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However, I didn't know there was a competitive scene.

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Later I found out about it and I became interested in the way people play there.

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At the time, I thought that the role of mid-laner is mine, I preferred it.

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Then I tried playing support. I chose this goal and I always picked support including public games.

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I liked it. I was never bored to play supports all the time.

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As a result, after summer vacations, in September I was invited to Cleave Gaming.

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- I began to... 
- Act as a professional gamer.

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Yes. I got engaged in eSports.

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Tell me about Cleave Gaming. Which players played there? How were you invited there?

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I played ranked games and I had good MMR.

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My friend from Cleave Gaming (he lived in Lipetsk and he knew me) was astonished with my development.

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We hadn't played before that. He didn't knew that I played at such level.

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He invited me as a support. In a couple of days he told me I was good and that we could play together.

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I was glad. And that's the story.

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Did that game succeed? You know that they gave you the start in pro Dota.

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Well, I don't really remember those events. We did achieved results in some minor tournaments

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(either top 3, or took the first place). But these were minor tournaments.

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Apart from that we performed öóää at StarLadder.

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If not taking Cleave Gaming into account , which team do you consider to be your first pro team?

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Was it Power Rangers or Empire, where you played as a stand-in in the very beginning?

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In the very beginning I was invited to PR, cause I had got acquainted with Shachlo,

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who invited me as a stand-in player, when their player couldn't play the match for some reason.

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I seemed to perform well. We played against Na`Vi. The score was 1:1 in a best of 2 series.

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Afterwards you played in Empire a bit.

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Afterwards I was invited to Empire to play at LAN. I was to stay there,

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However after having played for some time with them, I changed my vision of how to play further with them.

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Because I interacted with some players very well, while with others...

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I don't know, maybe it's due to the character, maybe it's because I'm not used to it

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or maybe they couldn't compromise. I decided not to move this path

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Instead I chose the players I feel comfortable with. I decided to play with PR.

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Afterwards PR invited me and I began acting as a support at Power Rangers.

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What can you tell us about PR. You played there for a long time.

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Apparently as per moment that's the team you played most time in.

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Was there interaction? This Belorussian team performs very well at the global arena.

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However, they don't  manage to achieve big results. Why does it happen so in your opinion?

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Yes, they don't achieve big results.

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However, after I had joined them, we managed to win the top places in the first months,

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which they hadn't won before. We were glad.

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Before that we had had 28th rating at gosugamers, and then it increased up to the 15th or 10th.

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And the guys told me that we'd improved.

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However, things turned to bad after we had lost. So we didn't manage to fix it.

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Were you surprized that PR defeated Alliance in The International 2015 qualifiers?

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No. The guys are experienced there. We played CW with them and they performed very well.

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I thought they'd reach top 2 at least. Well, they might've been too nervous,

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or something might've gone wrong. However, I believed they'd manage to do it.

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Tell us how you got to Na`Vi chronologically, since it is interesting to everyone.

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Who offered you? Did you think about it for a long time? Did you hesitate?

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When I left PR, I played IDEC League with pro players.

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In a couple of weeks XBOCT wrote me that they needed a stand-in for about 2 weeks.

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I thought about it for about an hour. I had other plans at the time. Eventually I answered "yes".

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Afterwards, we played for 2 weeks, and I seemed to fit in. And now it is what it is.

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So you were invited as an official player in the squad, and you didn't think over this offer,

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'cause you understood that you felt comfortable in the team.

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Or did you understand that there are things to be worked at.

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At the time it didn't go well. There was no leader or captain. there was no confidence in the team.

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As of now we seem to propose different things, work, analyse everything as a team. I like it.

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You got to the squad before ArtSyle. That was a short period of time.

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Can you compare the team before him and with him? Has the leader emerged?

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Or do you still have troubles with that? Vania don't seem to me to be an apparent leader.

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The difference is significant. Dendi used to pick and he had never been a captain before.

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It was very hard to him. We tried to help him, but it was very difficult.

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The team kept silence almost all the time. We made many mistakes.

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However, when ArtStyle came, he became a captain.

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The guys were very confident, telling me all the time: "Vania will do it!"

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I trusted him too. Due to our trust we started to offer more, make more and discuss more.

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Before that it was ok, but we didn't do it so well.

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As I see it from my point of you, you propose many things in game, maybe not as a captain, but as a leader.

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Do you think you have talent to become a captain? Are you capable of taking full control over gaming process?

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I think I will be capable, but not now. I'm preparing myself now.

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Perhaps, in future I will offer to become a captain in some team.

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- If it is necessary... 
- Yes. If it is necessary

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Ok. You said you began your eSports career in the pro teams in September 2014.

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Do you feel the lack of experience, in LANs, in social interactions.

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As this is organization, and this is grand eSports, big  business.

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Do you feel you need more time to feel better and more confident as pro player?

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I think that my substantial drawback is that I haven't participated in many LANs.

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I've noticed that I underperform during LANs, because the atmosphere changes.

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We're now flying to China, and I'll try to see if it has changed,

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if I feel equally at LAN and at bootcamp and at home. This is my main task for now.

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Let's talk about bootcamps. Have you been to bootcamps with your previous teams?

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Only with Power Rangers. We made bootcamps twice and they seemed to be successful.

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Due to one of the bootcamps, we were qualified to DAC. We participated in online qualifiers.

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We noticed that the bootcamp was successful for us.

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What can you tell me about the current bootcamp in Kyiv. You live in an apartment and train at the other place.

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Previously, you lived and trained in one appartment. Is this format convenient for you?

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How do you spend your time during the bootcamp? Are you satisfied with it?

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I am satisfied with the current bootcamp. The previous bootcamp was arranged differently.

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We used to play at one location and had to drive home to get some rest.

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Now, we're playing at home. So we have everything in the apartment.

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You simply can sit down or lie down and watch.

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You don't have to think that it is late and you need to go home, where there's no PC.

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Even if you want to sleep, you still think what if.... Well, we did lack something.

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So, during the previous bootcamp, you had to....

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We had to go home, simply because it was too late, but not because we didn't want to play anymore.

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So you've understood that it is more convenient for you to both live and play in one apartment

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rather than playing official games at office or training base. Right?

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Right. Even the guys voted for this. And it is so now.

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Well, you have achieved the main task of this bootcamp, namely to get to TI 2015.

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Tell us, if you are satisfied with the team's performance at the qualifiers

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not taking into account the final match you are to play now.

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I can't describe it in words. I didn't think, we'd... manage to get that far

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I didn't think that after the defeat in a match with LC we'd manage to gather strengths and win.

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We hadn't done that before at such tournaments.

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However, the guys prepared very well, we aspired and we did what we did now.

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Were there the teams in your group you didn't train against?

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I think that we didn't play against any team in our group - I don't remember is it A or B.

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The teams refused training with us. I think the reason was that we were in one group.

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So we couldn't play with them. As concerns the other group, we played with all the teams.

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since they didn't care much about it, because we were in different groups.

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What can you say about the performance of CIS teams at the qualifiers?

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It is sad that 3 or 4 CIS teams get to one group.

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Should they divide it differently, a CIS team would get more chances to get to the play off.

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As per moment, as far as I know, Vega Squadron is defeating  4 Anchors + SC,

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so they have chance to get to the final with us. I'd be very pleased to play with them

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and meet them at TI, as the players are very outgoing. It'd be better with them.

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Let’s talk about that significant game versus HR, where you managed to snatch aegis.

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Can you recall your thoughts at the moment, what made you stay there and go for such a move?

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Well, I remember seeing invis rune and I did know there was a gem on puck.

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But, when I took the rune, I seemingly saw puck on the ward heading towards base, so I decided to go for it.

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As it turned out, they didn’t see me, so I had stayed there for about 10 seconds up until rosh died,

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still worrying about puck being able to tp in and arrive in time for them to kill me.

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Consequently, I took that aegis. Though, I could have taken both aegis and cheese, but I had no slot for it.

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Hence, I took only the aegis and tped out. At the very last moment puck came in and even threw his orb but I was out of there before he teleported into it.

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In general, the game with HR was very intense, we saw some unreal swings of gold and exp.

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In your opinion, was the victory your achievement or a mistake from your opponents?

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Because you were ahead at first but then you’ve managed to lose the lead, so it seems like you’ve been making more mistakes.

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But, at the end of the day you’ve won. So what do you think loaded the dice in that particular game?

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Loaded the dice…well, they had that one moment when they could have ended the game.

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But SF goes to our fountain and dies, or, wait, maybe he drops low and they just run away.

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We had Magnus and others dead for 60 seconds, so we were rejoicing. XBOCT was like, “Look, we can still win, the fountain did it!”.

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Before it was like a spam, but after that moment we got together and had no more worries.

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We believed, Wyvern and Magnus with refreshers would do it.

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We even thought, we would play against megas, and we felt like it wouldn’t change much.

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Eventually, they went on us 5 vs 5, they died, buybacked

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and diebacked?

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yeah, they had this moment, when they’ve bought back and they needed to destroy the lane. On the other hand, we only had to wait for our ultimates.

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And they didn’t withstand it, they went one by one or something, I don’t even remember.

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So, they make a mistake and we used it to our advantage.

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Did you expect to play with 4ASC for the TI slot, or even for the wildcard slot? No one was taking them seriously.

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What do you mean, them advancing to play-off?

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Yes, and that it will be them who you’ll play against, not Alliance or NiP.

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Well, I think everyone was expecting Alliance or NiP. We did consider 4ASC a little bit, thought they were playing as average.

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But they showed their potential, and we got what we got.

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Now you are going to the International anyway. Do you feel self-fulfillment?

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Objectively, in twitter everyone considers you to be one of the best supports in the world. Do you feel this regalia, the light of fame?

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I don’t know. It is quite pleasant, but I feel neutral about it, because you shouldn’t get above yourself.

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You should simply play as good as you can, or otherwise you can forget about trainings,

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thinking you’re too good for it. And after that you won’t be that good anymore.

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Right after the qualifiers you are going to China for the Mars.tv competition.

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This will be the first off-site LAN-event for you. I can tell you already, get ready, it will be tough in China.

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There is a food issue in China, not everything can suit you. I got it from the very first day there.

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Apart from that, the city and the country are beautiful.

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Anyway, the list of participants is massive. What is your expectation from Mars.tv?

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And will you give it a separate attention or will it just be a preparatory phase and all the focus will be aimed at The International?

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Actually, we didn’t care much about Mars.tv. Our goal was to go to Seattle, and we have basically achieved it.

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Now, we will surely try to win Mars.tv, but we will be testing and perfecting some strategies there.

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I think, it will be a preparation for TI5, though it would be nice to win.

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To your mind, what’s the difference between Chinese and European Dota? Give us your vision of it.

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Well, I’ve been playing Chinese pubs. There you get 4 players and all of them have their mics, they speak out everything, every move is on timing.

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We had Silencers, who would press ult, without thinking, should you just say something in chat at any moment of the game.

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There are ganks and all of the other stuff. They are approaching every game with all the seriousness and I like it a lot.

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Which of the Chinese team can you bring out? Do you follow their scene?

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I don’t follow it that much. Last game I watched was Vici Gaming vs LGD on E-league, I think.

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And LGD won 3:0. I have no idea how they are doing it, how this xiao8 is invigorating his team like that,

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but I think this trio of LGD, IG and Vici Gaming are constantly switching places in the top 3.

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After China you will play at Dreamhack. You will meet Alliance, who won’t go to The International.

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Do you think this failure will drive them to prove themselves or will they be crushed?

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I think they should be more motivated now that they know for sure they are not going.

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So, they should be doing their best to get a direct invitation in the future.

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I believe they will prepare well and be playing at their maximum level.

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Now we’ll have a series of different questions. How do you handle flights and do you like travelling in general?

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I’m okay with flights. Travelling…depends on where to go. I wouldn’t want to go to some places, but, in general, I think travelling is significant, so I would say I like it.

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Can you give any tips for beginners? You made it into e-sports in September, 2014. How does a young player make it to the top in such a short period? What do you need to do?

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First of all, you need to choose your role. Then I would suggest watching pro plays, tournaments, team plays. 

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Choose your style, and watch replays in a way to get something out of it, not like, “well, they won, there was a fight” etc.

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You need to choose a person you are watching, need to analyze his moves, his tricks. Only then you will be getting better each day.

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As far as I know, you had a little accident with your PC. Can you tell us more about it? How were you playing before that?

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Well, I was playing on minimum requirements, render quality was at 43% and I had been playing that way for 1,5-2 years up until I got into Na`Vi.

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So, one day we were playing CS, 15 rounds ended, it was time to switch sides.

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Suddenly, my PC turns off and starts smoking. And that is where I knew I should not have switched for counter-terrorists.

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So, your PC just burned out?

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Yeah, right when we were winning.

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You were playing CS, was it just for fun, a way to relax? Or are you a professional Counter-Strike player as well?

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Nah, I have only like 10-15 hours played in CS. I started playing during our bootcamp with the team.

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We played CS after training matches in Dota just to distract ourselves. Or, maybe, it is our ritual, to play 1-2 games of CS together to catch a break.

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I have this opinion, and one of the players has also said this, that you are playing this good as a support, even despite your talent and skill,

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because you’ve been playing so long on a poor PC and then here you got everything of the best quality.

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Did this factor have any influence or did you just lower the setting to the minimum and play like you used to be?

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Well, I put it all on minimum, as usual, I only increased render quality to its maximum.

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But PC does matter, since your FPS is higher, it doesn’t lag during teamfights. On my old PC I could only right click after minute 40.

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It was really difficult, some things won’t even press. As for the rest, I’m just used to it.

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Playing on an old computer, every time I had to get used to a new PC, and it was really uncomfortable.

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Does your nickname have a special meaning, aside from referring to a sunny and bright game? Is there something else?

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I came up with the nickname rather spontaneously.

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It’s a mixture of words, but I liked it and started using. Maybe, it refers to something sunny, I don’t know.

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It is a great nickname, I bet it will become an appellative.

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Most of the time you are playing in conjunction with XBOCT, it looks like that to me. Is it right?

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Basically, yes. Artstyle and Funn1k have already achieved good teamwork, I’ve noticed it a long time ago.

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Artstyle has his hero pool, and I‘ve got my own and though I can play those heroes as well, but he is used to those heroes

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and I don’t want him to play something he doesn’t want or something he hasn’t played for a while.

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Is it comfortable for you to play with XBOCT? He’s sort of a lone wolf, but he spoke good of you, he feels at ease with you.

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Is it mutual in your tandem? You can say it in the interview, “Sasha, you need to work on this”.

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Well, after the game he says I’ve been lasthitting creeps. What he doesn’t understand is that I’m trying to help.

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It happened several times, and I happened to have too much or too little attack damage.

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At that moment, he omits it, but afterwards he starts pointing at the exact moments, when I had a last hit.

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And after that you don’t want to help your carry, you want to last hit, cast Finger of death on creeps, etc.

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Overall, the playstyle, as everyone notices, usually is that supports play for their carry or they play for nukes.

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But, when you said you liked being a support, do you like when the game largely depends on your carry?

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To my mind, everything should be shared.

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Even creeps?

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Creeps and farm… well, no, at the beginning farm can be given away, but during the later stages you need to make use of the map at its maximum potential,

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carry needs to migrate to the woods and leave lanes to supports and so on. This will result in greater profits,

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than if you farm a lane and you support is unable to farm woods.

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So, it is better for you to move you carry to the jungle and stay on the lane, and will be splitting the entire farm.

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Are you going to start streaming?

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If there is an audience, then yes, I will surely start doing that.

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I’m certain, there will be plenty. Yesterday you started your twitter account, how many followers did you get overnight?

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About 5000 or 6000. I was really surprised. But, all the credit goes to my teammates, they retwitted the news.

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Actually, it is your merit, because everybody wants to follow you. Thank you for this big and interesting interview.

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Any greetings, wishes, thanks? You can say all you want in this camera now.

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Well, I would like to shoutout to my mother, to my sister and my brothers first of all.

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Thank you to all of the fans, who believed in us even after the game with LC. Believed we could win and advance to the next stage.

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And thanks to our sponsors.

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Thank you for the interview, good luck in the qualifier finals.

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Thanks.


