1 00:00:01,661 --> 00:00:02,494 ‫-: Dang. 2 00:00:02,494 --> 00:00:03,867 ‫-: Hello everybody. 3 00:00:04,701 --> 00:00:06,677 ‫Group: Hey. 4 00:00:06,677 --> 00:00:08,100 ‫-: Hello. Oh. 5 00:00:08,100 --> 00:00:09,570 ‫-: What year is it? 6 00:00:09,570 --> 00:00:11,730 ‫-: Wild. ‫-: Where are we? 7 00:00:11,730 --> 00:00:13,230 ‫-: 2030. 8 00:00:13,230 --> 00:00:16,473 ‫-: Feels like 2030. What is up everybody? 9 00:00:18,060 --> 00:00:19,797 ‫Welcome. ‫-: We are live. 10 00:00:19,797 --> 00:00:22,553 ‫Yeah, we're like so rusty. ‫-: How do I do this again? 11 00:00:22,553 --> 00:00:24,280 ‫-: When was the last time we went live? 12 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:25,200 ‫(Phil laughing) 13 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,443 ‫-: Welcome to "Photography and Friends Live" 14 00:00:29,820 --> 00:00:34,020 ‫Will, Sam and I are in the house 15 00:00:34,020 --> 00:00:35,070 ‫and we're so excited to be ‫-: We're back. 16 00:00:35,070 --> 00:00:36,243 ‫-: back in action. 17 00:00:37,350 --> 00:00:39,390 ‫-: We back. ‫-: What's up guys? 18 00:00:39,390 --> 00:00:40,260 ‫-: Nothing man. What's up with you? 19 00:00:40,260 --> 00:00:41,790 ‫How's your summer been? Where have you been? 20 00:00:41,790 --> 00:00:43,410 ‫What's going on? What's your name? 21 00:00:43,410 --> 00:00:44,940 ‫Who are you? (chuckles) 22 00:00:44,940 --> 00:00:49,043 ‫-: I don't even remember any of those things anymore. 23 00:00:49,043 --> 00:00:50,700 ‫(both laughing) 24 00:00:50,700 --> 00:00:52,023 ‫Summer has been good. 25 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,420 ‫Hello everyone in the chat. 26 00:00:54,420 --> 00:00:57,270 ‫Let us know where you are tuning in from. 27 00:00:57,270 --> 00:01:00,330 ‫We got some of our favorite people in the house. 28 00:01:00,330 --> 00:01:04,230 ‫Barry, Brian, Jose, Persante, 29 00:01:04,230 --> 00:01:06,840 ‫thank you so much for being here, for chatting. 30 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,720 ‫Head over to the "Photography and Friends" YouTube channel 31 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:10,920 ‫and chat us there. 32 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,480 ‫That's, like, the easiest place for us 33 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,430 ‫to see those chats coming in. 34 00:01:14,430 --> 00:01:17,250 ‫-: Oh yeah. ‫-: But yeah, summer. 35 00:01:17,250 --> 00:01:20,430 ‫I took a lot of time off this summer to be with the kids. 36 00:01:20,430 --> 00:01:23,460 ‫It was the last time that my kids, 37 00:01:23,460 --> 00:01:27,240 ‫little kids aren't in grade school. 38 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,490 ‫My boys are in grade school now. 39 00:01:29,490 --> 00:01:33,690 ‫So yeah, it was fun summer. Did a couple trips. 40 00:01:33,690 --> 00:01:37,560 ‫Went to Idaho, which was amazing. 41 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:42,367 ‫Super beautiful up there and did a little oceanside trip 42 00:01:43,380 --> 00:01:45,270 ‫and a lot of time just hanging out at home. 43 00:01:45,270 --> 00:01:47,613 ‫Swim lessons with the kids. 44 00:01:48,540 --> 00:01:49,500 ‫-: Wow. 45 00:01:49,500 --> 00:01:52,470 ‫-: Trying to stay cool. ‫-: They good swimmers? 46 00:01:52,470 --> 00:01:56,613 ‫-: No they are not, but they're trying to learn. 47 00:01:57,983 --> 00:02:01,770 ‫Lucia, my little one, she's better than the boys. 48 00:02:01,770 --> 00:02:04,830 ‫And it's all the teacher because the boys were in, like, 49 00:02:04,830 --> 00:02:09,810 ‫a upper level, but the teacher would, like, ask them 50 00:02:09,810 --> 00:02:12,780 ‫oh, do you want to jump in, like, go under the water? 51 00:02:12,780 --> 00:02:13,770 ‫And they'd be like, "No." 52 00:02:13,770 --> 00:02:15,330 ‫And so they just wouldn't do it. 53 00:02:15,330 --> 00:02:17,610 ‫But then Lucia had like a hardcore teacher 54 00:02:17,610 --> 00:02:19,890 ‫that was just like, you're jumping in the water. 55 00:02:19,890 --> 00:02:22,290 ‫You're gonna have to swim to the top. 56 00:02:22,290 --> 00:02:23,880 ‫-: Oh my God. ‫-: And she, like, did it 57 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,593 ‫and it's pretty exciting. 58 00:02:26,716 --> 00:02:28,710 ‫But yeah. So I've just been up to that kind of stuff. 59 00:02:28,710 --> 00:02:30,840 ‫And yeah, boys just started school. 60 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,250 ‫So ready to get back into "Photography and Friends" 61 00:02:35,250 --> 00:02:37,380 ‫and classes and all that kind of stuff too. 62 00:02:37,380 --> 00:02:38,970 ‫So how are you guys doing? 63 00:02:38,970 --> 00:02:40,833 ‫What'd you guys do this summer? 64 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:43,193 ‫-: Sam. 65 00:02:46,324 --> 00:02:48,660 ‫Oh, did we lose audio or is that just me? 66 00:02:48,660 --> 00:02:50,790 ‫-: No, I muted myself. 67 00:02:50,790 --> 00:02:53,760 ‫-: Oh, okay. (laughing) 68 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,160 ‫Hi. We're new here. ‫-: Yeah. 69 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,030 ‫Summertime. Summer started in July, I guess. 70 00:03:00,030 --> 00:03:02,730 ‫I got stuck in a category five hurricane. 71 00:03:02,730 --> 00:03:04,260 ‫-: Oh, that's right. 72 00:03:04,260 --> 00:03:05,313 ‫-: That was a thing. 73 00:03:06,150 --> 00:03:07,890 ‫Have we talked since then? 74 00:03:07,890 --> 00:03:09,060 ‫-: I don't think so. 75 00:03:09,060 --> 00:03:10,050 ‫-: Yeah. 76 00:03:10,050 --> 00:03:11,550 ‫Went to Nepal then Thailand. 77 00:03:11,550 --> 00:03:13,680 ‫Then was supposed to go to Micronesia, 78 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,930 ‫but there's a hurricane- 79 00:03:15,930 --> 00:03:16,833 ‫-: Oh wait. 80 00:03:16,833 --> 00:03:19,380 ‫This was when you were supposed to be filming a project? 81 00:03:19,380 --> 00:03:20,213 ‫-: Yeah. 82 00:03:20,213 --> 00:03:21,046 ‫-: Yes. Okay. 83 00:03:22,890 --> 00:03:26,356 ‫-: And then came back and then had- 84 00:03:26,356 --> 00:03:27,189 ‫Yeah, it's been busy. 85 00:03:27,189 --> 00:03:29,730 ‫It was like tons of work there for a moment. 86 00:03:29,730 --> 00:03:32,850 ‫Went to a ranch with Will for a week, hung out with horses. 87 00:03:32,850 --> 00:03:34,466 ‫-: Oh yeah. I forgot about that. (laughing) 88 00:03:34,466 --> 00:03:36,570 ‫-: Did a little photography. 89 00:03:36,570 --> 00:03:39,573 ‫I took photos at my friend's elopement. 90 00:03:40,410 --> 00:03:44,220 ‫My fiance was the officiant, 91 00:03:44,220 --> 00:03:47,430 ‫and so I said I'd do photos and videos and stuff. 92 00:03:47,430 --> 00:03:52,430 ‫And it was actually really fun to be in that wedding mindset 93 00:03:52,770 --> 00:03:55,260 ‫and getting shots and posing a couple 94 00:03:55,260 --> 00:03:57,560 ‫and doing all that stuff, it was a lot of fun. 95 00:04:00,048 --> 00:04:03,000 ‫And then just, yeah, lot of video projects 96 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:03,960 ‫and stuff like that. 97 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,180 ‫But it's been lovely. 98 00:04:06,180 --> 00:04:08,400 ‫I realized how hot it's been everywhere else 99 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,490 ‫and Santa Cruz isn't a little microclimate. 100 00:04:11,490 --> 00:04:15,090 ‫So it was, like, 90 yesterday. It's very hot. 101 00:04:15,090 --> 00:04:18,630 ‫But today, it's super overcast and like 60 degrees 102 00:04:18,630 --> 00:04:21,000 ‫and it's sort of been like that throughout summer. 103 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,350 ‫We'll get a couple nice days 104 00:04:22,350 --> 00:04:25,140 ‫and then it'll get nice and cold again, so. 105 00:04:25,140 --> 00:04:27,728 ‫-: That sounds nice. 106 00:04:27,728 --> 00:04:29,070 ‫(Sam laughing) 107 00:04:29,070 --> 00:04:31,380 ‫-: It's pretty humid here in Tennessee. (laughing) 108 00:04:31,380 --> 00:04:33,330 ‫-: Oh, I can only imagine. 109 00:04:33,330 --> 00:04:35,130 ‫-: Will, what have you been up to? 110 00:04:35,130 --> 00:04:37,530 ‫-: Oh man, I've been doing a lot of video stuff. 111 00:04:37,530 --> 00:04:39,090 ‫Yeah. I mean, Phil and I were talking about earlier. 112 00:04:39,090 --> 00:04:41,190 ‫I think the biggest thing I did that's coming out soon 113 00:04:41,190 --> 00:04:44,913 ‫is I directed and shot some videos for Kolbie Kalay. 114 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,513 ‫Totally cool. Those will be acoustic set. 115 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:51,480 ‫I've done some concert stuff. 116 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:52,650 ‫Some friends around here, we're doing a lot 117 00:04:52,650 --> 00:04:55,830 ‫of acoustic video stuff. 118 00:04:55,830 --> 00:04:59,130 ‫I've been shooting a lot of film, but I just got a couple 119 00:04:59,130 --> 00:05:03,453 ‫rolls of 120 back that I took to the county fair. 120 00:05:05,310 --> 00:05:07,830 ‫And yeah, with some friends and the film- 121 00:05:07,830 --> 00:05:10,230 ‫Actually, I think I traveled with these two rolls 122 00:05:10,230 --> 00:05:13,980 ‫back and forth to LA too much, 'cause they're supposed to be 123 00:05:13,980 --> 00:05:18,150 ‫fine in the X-ray, but I have gone through the X-ray, like, 124 00:05:18,150 --> 00:05:20,430 ‫maybe six times (laughing) with those rolls. 125 00:05:20,430 --> 00:05:22,230 ‫And so now they're, like, there's a streak 126 00:05:22,230 --> 00:05:25,239 ‫across all of 'em, which is kind of a bummer. 127 00:05:25,239 --> 00:05:26,730 ‫(indistinct talking) 128 00:05:26,730 --> 00:05:28,050 ‫It's on both rolls. 129 00:05:28,050 --> 00:05:31,140 ‫It's 800 Cinestill and it's on both rolls 130 00:05:31,140 --> 00:05:33,981 ‫in two different magazines for my Hasselblad. 131 00:05:33,981 --> 00:05:35,913 ‫So I'm pretty sure that's the case. 132 00:05:37,410 --> 00:05:40,380 ‫But yeah, I know I've been seen a lot of film doing that. 133 00:05:40,380 --> 00:05:43,890 ‫I had a wedding at LMU and I shot, which was fun. 134 00:05:43,890 --> 00:05:44,940 ‫-: That's cool. 135 00:05:44,940 --> 00:05:47,310 ‫Had you shot a wedding at LMU before, which is the college- 136 00:05:47,310 --> 00:05:50,418 ‫-: I did for Courtney, 137 00:05:50,418 --> 00:05:52,470 ‫-: Oh, yes. ‫-: or for Donovan. 138 00:05:52,470 --> 00:05:53,610 ‫-: Yeah. ‫-: Yeah. 139 00:05:53,610 --> 00:05:56,880 ‫But that was, like, 12 years ago maybe. (laughing) 140 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,596 ‫-: Yeah. Yeah. 141 00:05:58,596 --> 00:06:01,650 ‫-: And so then I reshot. I shot one recently. 142 00:06:01,650 --> 00:06:05,160 ‫And I did some medium format photos too, alongside that. 143 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:06,330 ‫I wonder if I can find those? 144 00:06:06,330 --> 00:06:08,130 ‫I'll have to send 'em to you guys. 145 00:06:08,130 --> 00:06:10,023 ‫But that was super fun. 146 00:06:11,070 --> 00:06:13,320 ‫I do have a wedding inquiry I got today. 147 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,230 ‫Shooting a wedding in April in Mexico. 148 00:06:16,230 --> 00:06:17,748 ‫-: Nice. 149 00:06:17,748 --> 00:06:21,450 ‫And you separated all your Instagram accounts? 150 00:06:21,450 --> 00:06:22,920 ‫-: Oh yeah. Have you noticed that? 151 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:23,753 ‫Yeah. 152 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,660 ‫This is a whole diatribe that we go on. 153 00:06:27,660 --> 00:06:29,580 ‫If you guys have questions about why I'm doing this 154 00:06:29,580 --> 00:06:31,410 ‫for social media, please feel free to post 155 00:06:31,410 --> 00:06:32,280 ‫in the YouTube chat. 156 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:35,547 ‫But I had this long break from Instagram 157 00:06:35,547 --> 00:06:36,690 ‫and I'm really kind of- 158 00:06:36,690 --> 00:06:38,970 ‫I'm not anti Instagram, but I'm trying to step away more 159 00:06:38,970 --> 00:06:41,130 ‫from social media or at least have a better 160 00:06:41,130 --> 00:06:42,780 ‫relationship with it. 161 00:06:42,780 --> 00:06:45,960 ‫And my main account, my William Carnahan account 162 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,520 ‫is for pretty much work only. 163 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,800 ‫So from now on, I'm only posting anything that has to do 164 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,180 ‫with things I've shot. 165 00:06:51,180 --> 00:06:54,630 ‫My blog posts, classes, all that stuff. 166 00:06:54,630 --> 00:06:57,450 ‫And then I have an adventures account, 167 00:06:57,450 --> 00:06:59,550 ‫which is more about like camping and, like, 168 00:06:59,550 --> 00:07:03,990 ‫I'm going on a backpacking elk hunt with A Day in the Field. 169 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:06,330 ‫We just saw a comment in there. 170 00:07:06,330 --> 00:07:09,420 ‫Next week where we're gonna be making a YouTube video. 171 00:07:09,420 --> 00:07:11,850 ‫And then I have my wedding only Instagram account, 172 00:07:11,850 --> 00:07:14,370 ‫which is like something I'm just gonna be 173 00:07:14,370 --> 00:07:17,040 ‫posting wedding stuff for, and that just has come about 174 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,600 ‫because like I have a lot of people that are like, 175 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:19,920 ‫I don't see any of your wedding stuff. 176 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,970 ‫Like, I wanna see your portfolio and the websites are fine, 177 00:07:23,970 --> 00:07:26,730 ‫which is good, but Instagram allows me to tag people 178 00:07:26,730 --> 00:07:30,210 ‫and get more wedding content built. 179 00:07:30,210 --> 00:07:32,280 ‫And so if you're interested in following me, 180 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,588 ‫I forgot the name of it already. 181 00:07:34,588 --> 00:07:36,090 ‫I think it was William... 182 00:07:36,090 --> 00:07:37,380 ‫What was it, Sam? 183 00:07:37,380 --> 00:07:40,103 ‫I had a long talk with Sam about what I should name it. 184 00:07:41,340 --> 00:07:43,890 ‫And yeah, so I'm slowly trying to build up 185 00:07:43,890 --> 00:07:46,550 ‫my wedding Instagram account and that's where I'll... 186 00:07:47,777 --> 00:07:49,080 ‫WilliamCarnahan_Weddings. 187 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,930 ‫-: I think the thing about that, which we could talk, 188 00:07:51,930 --> 00:07:54,864 ‫I mean, we could keep talking about this, but I don't wanna- 189 00:07:54,864 --> 00:07:55,697 ‫-: Yeah, do you like it? Do you not like it? 190 00:07:55,697 --> 00:07:58,710 ‫-: Diving into Instagram, but it's an interesting idea. 191 00:07:58,710 --> 00:08:02,100 ‫I think as photographers, 192 00:08:02,100 --> 00:08:04,170 ‫a lot of people are just over Instagram, 193 00:08:04,170 --> 00:08:06,960 ‫but it's still important to have it 194 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,650 ‫as a wedding photographer, an active photographer, 195 00:08:10,650 --> 00:08:15,030 ‫that profile where people can go see your work and it gives 196 00:08:15,030 --> 00:08:17,640 ‫you an excuse to post more photos than what would be 197 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,480 ‫on your website portfolio, which is usually more 198 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,700 ‫curated and limited, so. 199 00:08:23,700 --> 00:08:26,490 ‫-: Yeah, and personally I feel like I get into these, 200 00:08:26,490 --> 00:08:28,089 ‫and this is like a personal thing. 201 00:08:28,089 --> 00:08:30,090 ‫And I don't know if people can relate, but I get into these 202 00:08:30,090 --> 00:08:33,150 ‫Instagram holes where I'm just endlessly scrolling 203 00:08:33,150 --> 00:08:35,763 ‫and it feels like a waste of time. 204 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,270 ‫And then, like, I don't know, if I see other people's posts, 205 00:08:39,270 --> 00:08:41,670 ‫I'm like, "Man, I wish I was doing that." 206 00:08:41,670 --> 00:08:45,420 ‫It's like this, Instagram has this weird mental control 207 00:08:45,420 --> 00:08:47,190 ‫over me that I've been trying to step away from 208 00:08:47,190 --> 00:08:49,347 ‫or change my relationship with. 209 00:08:49,347 --> 00:08:52,470 ‫And I think by separating all these things, 210 00:08:52,470 --> 00:08:53,820 ‫it's an experiment. 211 00:08:53,820 --> 00:08:55,290 ‫So we'll see how it goes. 212 00:08:55,290 --> 00:08:56,550 ‫-: It's all an experiment. 213 00:08:56,550 --> 00:08:58,662 ‫We're all going through it. 214 00:08:58,662 --> 00:09:00,600 ‫(indistinct talking) 215 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,450 ‫-: And also, I mean, I think to your point, Will, 216 00:09:03,450 --> 00:09:06,783 ‫of what you're doing and for photography people on here, 217 00:09:07,950 --> 00:09:11,550 ‫having a dedicated thing that is your body of work 218 00:09:11,550 --> 00:09:13,110 ‫that you're trying to share with people, 219 00:09:13,110 --> 00:09:16,149 ‫Instagram's a great tool to share that with someone. 220 00:09:16,149 --> 00:09:16,982 ‫-: Absolutely. ‫-: And can share your website 221 00:09:16,982 --> 00:09:18,840 ‫of course and your Instagram account should lead 222 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,600 ‫to your website that showcases, you know, that stuff. 223 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,470 ‫But, you know, I've been going through rebuilding my website 224 00:09:25,470 --> 00:09:28,170 ‫and I won't get to Brittany and Barry's websites 225 00:09:28,170 --> 00:09:31,170 ‫'cause they've been posting some cool, they're new websites. 226 00:09:31,170 --> 00:09:34,620 ‫But curating what the work is that's gonna be on there 227 00:09:34,620 --> 00:09:39,240 ‫and all this stuff, like, the Instagram feed is also a tool 228 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:40,560 ‫that's gonna, like, showcase all that. 229 00:09:40,560 --> 00:09:44,910 ‫But if you do specific things, having specific accounts 230 00:09:44,910 --> 00:09:47,063 ‫for each of those makes a lot of sense, I think. 231 00:09:47,966 --> 00:09:49,290 ‫-: Yeah, and I'm into that. 232 00:09:49,290 --> 00:09:51,210 ‫I feel like it's a nice separation in my head. 233 00:09:51,210 --> 00:09:53,070 ‫I was talking to, I think he's in the chat. 234 00:09:53,070 --> 00:09:54,780 ‫Again, A Day in the Field. 235 00:09:54,780 --> 00:09:57,570 ‫He's on TikTok a lot and he's like, I just don't... 236 00:09:57,570 --> 00:10:00,540 ‫If I didn't wanna become a personality to share my work, 237 00:10:00,540 --> 00:10:03,603 ‫I wouldn't have to be across all social media platforms. 238 00:10:04,950 --> 00:10:05,820 ‫I don't know. 239 00:10:05,820 --> 00:10:09,420 ‫It's different for everybody and, like, what you're doing. 240 00:10:09,420 --> 00:10:10,920 ‫But yeah, if you guys have questions about that, 241 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:11,753 ‫let us know. 242 00:10:11,753 --> 00:10:13,440 ‫I like the website idea. 243 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,130 ‫It's just not as easily accessible on a whim 244 00:10:17,130 --> 00:10:18,870 ‫or if you're trying to get clients, you know, 245 00:10:18,870 --> 00:10:20,400 ‫to get exposure. 246 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:21,870 ‫-: Yeah. 247 00:10:21,870 --> 00:10:25,470 ‫-: See. Also, I've never, I don't think I've ever, 248 00:10:25,470 --> 00:10:27,720 ‫I don't know if my Instagram account played a role 249 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,290 ‫in me getting a job, but I've never had, to my knowledge, 250 00:10:31,290 --> 00:10:34,350 ‫a job because of my Instagram account. 251 00:10:34,350 --> 00:10:36,090 ‫-: Oh, I have for sure. 252 00:10:36,090 --> 00:10:37,383 ‫-: Yeah. So. 253 00:10:38,490 --> 00:10:40,470 ‫-: You're not very active. 254 00:10:40,470 --> 00:10:42,480 ‫-: Yeah. You utilize yours more, I guess. 255 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,510 ‫-: Everyone tuning in right now, how are you guys feeling 256 00:10:45,510 --> 00:10:48,030 ‫all about Instagram or... 257 00:10:48,030 --> 00:10:50,013 ‫-: We got a Vero person on here. 258 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,747 ‫-: Remember that fun experiment? (laughing) 259 00:10:54,747 --> 00:10:56,610 ‫-: Yeah. 260 00:10:56,610 --> 00:10:59,640 ‫-: It's just hard because the user base is in Instagram 261 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,790 ‫and it's not necessarily connecting 262 00:11:02,790 --> 00:11:03,960 ‫with other photographers. 263 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,830 ‫Like, I love the Vero concept there, but it's that everyone, 264 00:11:07,830 --> 00:11:10,620 ‫including clients are on Instagram. 265 00:11:10,620 --> 00:11:12,480 ‫And so it's getting people that are non-photo photographers 266 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:13,830 ‫to see your work as well. 267 00:11:13,830 --> 00:11:15,189 ‫-: Right. 268 00:11:15,189 --> 00:11:18,570 ‫-: The thing though is, like, Instagram doesn't push 269 00:11:18,570 --> 00:11:21,360 ‫photos at all anymore. 270 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,050 ‫My entire feed is videos and I don't care about 271 00:11:25,050 --> 00:11:28,050 ‫getting a lot of likes, but I pay attention. 272 00:11:28,050 --> 00:11:32,010 ‫And it's like, okay, I posted to 25,000 followers 273 00:11:32,010 --> 00:11:34,320 ‫and 30 people liked a photo. 274 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,420 ‫It's like, that's because Instagram 275 00:11:36,420 --> 00:11:38,040 ‫isn't showing it to anybody. 276 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,650 ‫And that's fine, because the only reason, honestly, 277 00:11:40,650 --> 00:11:43,710 ‫I use Instagram is so that I personally can look back 278 00:11:43,710 --> 00:11:46,860 ‫and be like, oh, this is like a diary 279 00:11:46,860 --> 00:11:49,530 ‫of my life via photography. 280 00:11:49,530 --> 00:11:52,050 ‫For me, it's not a place to get jobs, 281 00:11:52,050 --> 00:11:57,050 ‫but it's as photographers recommending it, it's hard. 282 00:11:57,510 --> 00:11:58,740 ‫I don't know. 283 00:11:58,740 --> 00:12:01,080 ‫-: But you can send your Instagram to someone, 284 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,400 ‫they can see your work. 285 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:03,849 ‫-: Yeah. 286 00:12:03,849 --> 00:12:07,380 ‫-: I think that's, like, the most utilized part of it. 287 00:12:07,380 --> 00:12:08,550 ‫-: Totally. 288 00:12:08,550 --> 00:12:10,860 ‫-: And however many likes you get are not like, 289 00:12:10,860 --> 00:12:13,380 ‫I mean, there's all the strategy of when to post 290 00:12:13,380 --> 00:12:14,880 ‫and doing reels and like if you're trying 291 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,000 ‫to get insta-famous, then that's a thing. 292 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,283 ‫But if you're just trying to share your work, 293 00:12:21,300 --> 00:12:22,200 ‫who cares about likes? 294 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:23,550 ‫Who cares about how many comments it gets? 295 00:12:23,550 --> 00:12:25,260 ‫Who cares about all that stuff? 296 00:12:25,260 --> 00:12:29,070 ‫Share your work, have a portfolio and it's a great tool 297 00:12:29,070 --> 00:12:30,483 ‫to share what you do. 298 00:12:32,070 --> 00:12:33,480 ‫-: I'm doing some- 299 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,180 ‫Okay, there's so many tangents. 300 00:12:36,180 --> 00:12:38,460 ‫And first, I just wanna say thank you all for being here. 301 00:12:38,460 --> 00:12:40,650 ‫Again, we see people in the comments. 302 00:12:40,650 --> 00:12:45,650 ‫Barsha, Pasa, Red Rose Skull, Carlos, Robert, Marta. 303 00:12:49,110 --> 00:12:51,873 ‫Bob, Denise, thank you for being here. 304 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,110 ‫Let us know 'cause I wanna ask Will and Sam this. 305 00:12:55,110 --> 00:12:57,870 ‫What camera are you currently using? 306 00:12:57,870 --> 00:12:58,703 ‫-: Oh boy. 307 00:12:58,703 --> 00:13:00,120 ‫-: What's your favorite lens? 308 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,140 ‫So put in the chat, the camera you're on right now 309 00:13:04,140 --> 00:13:05,880 ‫and your favorite lens you're using. 310 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:10,023 ‫But speaking of Instagram. So last thing about Instagram. 311 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,490 ‫My wife and I were doing something for the kids' preschool 312 00:13:14,490 --> 00:13:19,490 ‫where we're offering affordable family photos 313 00:13:19,560 --> 00:13:21,450 ‫for the holidays. 314 00:13:21,450 --> 00:13:23,913 ‫And it's gonna be like a one-day thing where- 315 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,250 ‫It's a fundraiser for the school. 316 00:13:26,250 --> 00:13:29,520 ‫So we're doing it, like, basically for free. 317 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,040 ‫But we were looking for another photographer 318 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,970 ‫and there was a mom at the school who has an Instagram 319 00:13:35,970 --> 00:13:38,490 ‫and my wife sends me like, oh, check out their Instagram. 320 00:13:38,490 --> 00:13:40,920 ‫Do you think they would be good? And it was exactly that. 321 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,990 ‫I looked at her Instagram, it was a thing like, 322 00:13:42,990 --> 00:13:46,770 ‫okay, I can see, yes, you have quality photos. 323 00:13:46,770 --> 00:13:50,103 ‫You're hired for this free fundraiser. 324 00:13:51,636 --> 00:13:54,150 ‫But yeah, it was like using Instagram to verify 325 00:13:54,150 --> 00:13:57,480 ‫that you can take photos for this event. 326 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:58,890 ‫And that is an idea. 327 00:13:58,890 --> 00:14:01,470 ‫If you're looking for a way to get- 328 00:14:01,470 --> 00:14:03,150 ‫You could probably do this and get paid to do it. 329 00:14:03,150 --> 00:14:04,830 ‫I'm doing it for free 'cause I'm a parent. 330 00:14:04,830 --> 00:14:08,940 ‫But go around to schools and they're always 331 00:14:08,940 --> 00:14:10,260 ‫looking for fundraisers. 332 00:14:10,260 --> 00:14:14,670 ‫Holidays, people want to get photos done ahead of time, 333 00:14:14,670 --> 00:14:17,880 ‫so you should probably be planning this right now 334 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,450 ‫for doing it in October or November. 335 00:14:21,450 --> 00:14:24,420 ‫But hook up with a school, nonprofit school. 336 00:14:24,420 --> 00:14:29,420 ‫Nonprofit around and yeah, put together a one-day thing 337 00:14:29,550 --> 00:14:34,550 ‫where you can get, you know, one batch of photos 338 00:14:34,770 --> 00:14:39,060 ‫in one location, have a new family come in every 45 minutes 339 00:14:39,060 --> 00:14:43,440 ‫or something and work with the school or whatever. 340 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:44,940 ‫I'll let you guys know how it goes, 341 00:14:44,940 --> 00:14:47,850 ‫but I think it could be a viable way to make a bunch 342 00:14:47,850 --> 00:14:49,743 ‫of connections as a photographer. 343 00:14:50,610 --> 00:14:53,460 ‫Lock in those families for family photos year after year 344 00:14:53,460 --> 00:14:55,440 ‫after year for any event. 345 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,490 ‫It's a great way to start a business as a photographer. 346 00:14:59,490 --> 00:15:03,420 ‫-: Mama say Instagram is the devil. (laughing) 347 00:15:03,420 --> 00:15:06,820 ‫-: I like that. ‫-: It is. It really is. 348 00:15:06,820 --> 00:15:09,060 ‫-: Look at all the Canons people are using. 349 00:15:09,060 --> 00:15:12,690 ‫-: You know, I think Canon has done such an amazing job. 350 00:15:12,690 --> 00:15:15,270 ‫Their step into mirrorless world 351 00:15:15,270 --> 00:15:19,590 ‫was a little bumpy at first, but, like, the specs on their 352 00:15:19,590 --> 00:15:22,830 ‫cameras they're putting out and the usability and the fact 353 00:15:22,830 --> 00:15:25,770 ‫that their adapter actually works well with old class. 354 00:15:25,770 --> 00:15:28,990 ‫It's, yeah, they do good stuff. 355 00:15:28,990 --> 00:15:32,700 ‫-: Yeah, I would've gone Canon if they had mirrorless 356 00:15:32,700 --> 00:15:35,220 ‫when I jumped over to Fuji. 357 00:15:35,220 --> 00:15:38,370 ‫Nicholas Tarsky with the Sony. 358 00:15:38,370 --> 00:15:40,200 ‫-: Nicholas. ‫-: I'm curious how everything's 359 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,240 ‫going with you wedding wise. 360 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,960 ‫We did a great, well, Will and Sam did a great interview 361 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:50,960 ‫with you about your wedding photography business. 362 00:15:51,540 --> 00:15:53,970 ‫I want to hear an update. 363 00:15:53,970 --> 00:15:55,980 ‫Everyone check that interview out 364 00:15:55,980 --> 00:15:58,920 ‫over at photographyandfriends.com, under the pod- 365 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,483 ‫I think it's under the podcast. 366 00:16:01,350 --> 00:16:03,510 ‫Unless it was just a live stream. 367 00:16:03,510 --> 00:16:06,211 ‫-: I think it might have been a live stream. 368 00:16:06,211 --> 00:16:07,320 ‫-: I think it was live. 369 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,640 ‫-: Okay. Well, did I post it as that? 370 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,000 ‫Anyways, Nicholas, I'm curious to see if your strategy 371 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,960 ‫of using Yelp ads and and things like that is still working 372 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,140 ‫or if you've found other things to do or whatnot. 373 00:16:22,140 --> 00:16:25,050 ‫But anyways, yeah, lots of Nikon. 374 00:16:25,050 --> 00:16:26,910 ‫If people have questions, shoot 'em at us. 375 00:16:26,910 --> 00:16:31,320 ‫We're just gonna be here for the next 30, 45 minutes, 376 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,200 ‫however long you want us to be answering questions. 377 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,020 ‫I saw someone was in the Nikon camera class 378 00:16:37,020 --> 00:16:38,580 ‫and had a question. 379 00:16:38,580 --> 00:16:43,290 ‫So yeah, go ahead and ask any questions. 380 00:16:43,290 --> 00:16:46,590 ‫Actually, that Nicholas Tarsky is on the podcast. 381 00:16:46,590 --> 00:16:48,450 ‫I added that. So. 382 00:16:48,450 --> 00:16:49,283 ‫-: Cool. 383 00:16:49,283 --> 00:16:51,570 ‫-: Check that out if you're interested in wedding photography 384 00:16:51,570 --> 00:16:55,920 ‫and yeah, launching that kind of business. 385 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,413 ‫-: A lot of Sonys, a lot of Canons. 386 00:17:00,210 --> 00:17:02,310 ‫Sam, what did you shoot your wedding with? 387 00:17:05,700 --> 00:17:10,693 ‫-: I shot it with my Leica Q3, which was wonderful, 388 00:17:11,820 --> 00:17:16,348 ‫and the Sony a7R5, which is the... 389 00:17:16,348 --> 00:17:18,210 ‫(indistinct talking) 390 00:17:18,210 --> 00:17:20,460 ‫Yeah, Will and I got that for our work stuff, 391 00:17:21,570 --> 00:17:25,083 ‫just because we do all of our video stuff with Sonys. 392 00:17:26,790 --> 00:17:30,750 ‫It was really nice having, 'cause we have the full set. 393 00:17:30,750 --> 00:17:35,302 ‫I have the full 16 to 35, 24 to 70 and 70 to 200. 394 00:17:35,302 --> 00:17:36,645 ‫(indistinct) 395 00:17:36,645 --> 00:17:40,290 ‫Sony and having the 7200 on there and then the Q3 396 00:17:40,290 --> 00:17:44,580 ‫which is a fixed 28 was like exactly what I wanted. 397 00:17:44,580 --> 00:17:48,120 ‫I think I would've preferred like a 85 prime lens, probably. 398 00:17:48,120 --> 00:17:52,520 ‫But, man, I just... 399 00:17:54,870 --> 00:17:56,700 ‫Getting the lighting right, getting all the things right, 400 00:17:56,700 --> 00:17:57,840 ‫the Sony looks great. 401 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:02,463 ‫But, like, the quality of the Leica just, it's still, 402 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:06,150 ‫it's kind of hard to look at the two images side by side 403 00:18:06,150 --> 00:18:07,620 ‫'cause it's like, well, that's not. 404 00:18:07,620 --> 00:18:10,143 ‫Why doesn't that look (laughing) as good? 405 00:18:12,090 --> 00:18:13,410 ‫But no, it was super fun. 406 00:18:13,410 --> 00:18:15,497 ‫It ended up being in, like, 407 00:18:15,497 --> 00:18:17,583 ‫it was up in the Pacific Northwest. 408 00:18:18,870 --> 00:18:20,940 ‫I have a friend up there who's a bush pilot 409 00:18:20,940 --> 00:18:22,770 ‫and he has a water plane. 410 00:18:22,770 --> 00:18:25,590 ‫And so he took us out to this remote lake 411 00:18:25,590 --> 00:18:28,590 ‫and we were, you know, in the woods by this lakeside. 412 00:18:28,590 --> 00:18:30,440 ‫-: When are we gonna see these photos? 413 00:18:32,970 --> 00:18:34,799 ‫-: I'll post a couple. 414 00:18:34,799 --> 00:18:35,910 ‫(Will laughing) 415 00:18:35,910 --> 00:18:38,820 ‫-: That's, like, painful. (laughing) 416 00:18:38,820 --> 00:18:40,383 ‫Oh, I'll post a couple. 417 00:18:41,483 --> 00:18:43,593 ‫-: It's a new world for me. 418 00:18:44,534 --> 00:18:45,376 ‫-: I know. 419 00:18:45,376 --> 00:18:46,830 ‫I'm just excited to have one of you guys 420 00:18:46,830 --> 00:18:50,670 ‫be shooting a wedding, you know, that I want to see 421 00:18:50,670 --> 00:18:53,130 ‫and compare and help and contrast and share 422 00:18:53,130 --> 00:18:55,470 ‫and, you know, all the things. 423 00:18:55,470 --> 00:18:57,480 ‫-: Fair, fair, fair, fair. 424 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,760 ‫-: I saw a question in there, speaking of that. 425 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,883 ‫What is it? Do you guys use AI to batch and edit? 426 00:19:03,900 --> 00:19:04,733 ‫-: No. 427 00:19:05,790 --> 00:19:07,920 ‫-: No. (laughing) ‫-: Not photos? 428 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,300 ‫Yeah. ‫-: Not yet. 429 00:19:09,300 --> 00:19:12,120 ‫I'm sure in the future, if there's gonna be like a reason 430 00:19:12,120 --> 00:19:14,850 ‫to do that or it's good enough, I would be willing 431 00:19:14,850 --> 00:19:17,910 ‫to try it on a wedding to cull photos, 432 00:19:17,910 --> 00:19:19,530 ‫but probably not to edit. 433 00:19:19,530 --> 00:19:21,480 ‫I've just gotten it down to a system and I do it by hand 434 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:23,130 ‫and it's, like, it's been working great for me. 435 00:19:23,130 --> 00:19:25,830 ‫So why change it up? 436 00:19:25,830 --> 00:19:27,660 ‫Unless, you know, I could see that there could be a reason 437 00:19:27,660 --> 00:19:29,100 ‫to use it in the future, but I haven't seen it 438 00:19:29,100 --> 00:19:31,080 ‫really perform that way. 439 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,720 ‫-: I've seen someone with, you know, basically anything 440 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,170 ‫where what's supposed to be the main subject 441 00:19:37,170 --> 00:19:38,463 ‫is out of focus. 442 00:19:39,990 --> 00:19:43,263 ‫There's certain things that you can tell it to call out. 443 00:19:44,940 --> 00:19:47,370 ‫I think a big part, like sometimes those accidents actually 444 00:19:47,370 --> 00:19:51,060 ‫end up making wonderful photos and the idea of not 445 00:19:51,060 --> 00:19:53,580 ‫personally going through the photos I take 446 00:19:53,580 --> 00:19:55,563 ‫and selecting which ones I wanna do. 447 00:19:57,150 --> 00:19:58,512 ‫I don't know. 448 00:19:58,512 --> 00:20:03,090 ‫I don't know if I'd fully trust that to a- 449 00:20:03,090 --> 00:20:06,150 ‫-: I did see the article recently, 450 00:20:06,150 --> 00:20:09,660 ‫literally about what we were just talking about, like, 451 00:20:09,660 --> 00:20:10,860 ‫probably last live stream. 452 00:20:10,860 --> 00:20:12,657 ‫-: Yeah we had an AI. Yeah. 453 00:20:14,490 --> 00:20:18,480 ‫-: How, like, someday people aren't even gonna want to do 454 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,240 ‫head shots or anything anymore because they can just 455 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:25,560 ‫throw a photo into a random, you know, AI generator 456 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,270 ‫and then it'll come up with a bunch of headshot 457 00:20:27,270 --> 00:20:32,010 ‫options for them and it's already happening. (laughing) 458 00:20:32,010 --> 00:20:33,432 ‫-: Yeah. 459 00:20:33,432 --> 00:20:34,380 ‫-: That was quick. 460 00:20:34,380 --> 00:20:37,650 ‫-: There's a question on the Nikon camera class. 461 00:20:37,650 --> 00:20:41,253 ‫Marta is asking about the D5600 settings. 462 00:20:42,780 --> 00:20:45,600 ‫I guess this might be a better offline question. 463 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,880 ‫If you're in the photography and friends community, 464 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:52,350 ‫which you can join over at Plus.PhotographyandFriends.com 465 00:20:52,350 --> 00:20:56,400 ‫for free, we can answer a bit better 466 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,980 ‫and maybe you could send a screenshot or a photo 467 00:20:58,980 --> 00:21:01,110 ‫of what the back of your screen looks like, 468 00:21:01,110 --> 00:21:03,300 ‫because the setting should look the same 469 00:21:03,300 --> 00:21:04,380 ‫as what we have in the class. 470 00:21:04,380 --> 00:21:08,730 ‫That class is geared towards DSLR cameras. 471 00:21:08,730 --> 00:21:11,703 ‫But the D5600, I don't know. 472 00:21:12,570 --> 00:21:13,800 ‫-: They might have done a new firmware 473 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,800 ‫that changed the screen layout. 474 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,290 ‫-: Maybe. Yeah, I don't know. 475 00:21:19,290 --> 00:21:20,820 ‫We can dig into that. 476 00:21:20,820 --> 00:21:23,370 ‫But maybe, Martha, if you can post that 477 00:21:23,370 --> 00:21:27,063 ‫over on the Plus Community, that would be helpful. 478 00:21:29,070 --> 00:21:32,583 ‫Nicholas says that he has four weddings this weekend. 479 00:21:33,465 --> 00:21:34,298 ‫(indistinct talking) 480 00:21:34,298 --> 00:21:35,697 ‫Too much. 481 00:21:35,697 --> 00:21:38,070 ‫(group laughing) 482 00:21:38,070 --> 00:21:38,974 ‫-: You monster. 483 00:21:38,974 --> 00:21:39,810 ‫-: Are you, like, running a business 484 00:21:39,810 --> 00:21:42,480 ‫with multiple photographers or are you shooting 485 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,070 ‫four weddings this weekend yourself? 486 00:21:44,070 --> 00:21:46,350 ‫-: I bet he second shoots (indistinct). 487 00:21:46,350 --> 00:21:48,210 ‫I bet one of them that he's at least second shooting, 488 00:21:48,210 --> 00:21:51,780 ‫but I could see him doing full blown weddings for... 489 00:21:51,780 --> 00:21:56,190 ‫I mean, like if you had an elopement on a Friday or like, 490 00:21:56,190 --> 00:21:59,430 ‫you know, one big one on a Saturday or, but you know, 491 00:21:59,430 --> 00:22:00,870 ‫that's what you gotta do, right? 492 00:22:00,870 --> 00:22:02,490 ‫If you're full-time wedding photographer, 493 00:22:02,490 --> 00:22:04,470 ‫knock out four weddings in a weekend. 494 00:22:04,470 --> 00:22:05,303 ‫-: Yeah. 495 00:22:05,303 --> 00:22:06,510 ‫-: And you've made your 496 00:22:06,510 --> 00:22:08,217 ‫money from them. ‫-: That's helpful. 497 00:22:08,217 --> 00:22:10,590 ‫-: And you mentioned that you're getting a lot of leads 498 00:22:10,590 --> 00:22:13,440 ‫from vendors, venues, Instagram, organic. 499 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,040 ‫I think the vendors and venues is super important to be 500 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:18,330 ‫connecting with other people. 501 00:22:18,330 --> 00:22:20,220 ‫But also, like, venues. 502 00:22:20,220 --> 00:22:23,010 ‫That's crucial because a lot of venues 503 00:22:23,010 --> 00:22:27,090 ‫will have their preferred photographers listed 504 00:22:27,090 --> 00:22:31,683 ‫when someone purchases or, you know, rents out a venue. 505 00:22:32,700 --> 00:22:37,110 ‫Nicholas, do you have any advice for how you've been able 506 00:22:37,110 --> 00:22:40,377 ‫to get recommended by venues or (indistinct). 507 00:22:41,340 --> 00:22:42,173 ‫-: Yeah. No. 508 00:22:42,173 --> 00:22:43,680 ‫I mean, I think Nicholas should speak up to that, 509 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,402 ‫'cause you just build relationships and you take time. 510 00:22:46,402 --> 00:22:48,960 ‫If you guys can go follow Nicholas' Instagram page, 511 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,420 ‫I'm not on Instagram, but we can find that, maybe. 512 00:22:51,420 --> 00:22:54,090 ‫Like, he's been doing it now for a few years 513 00:22:54,090 --> 00:22:56,910 ‫and started with our classes way back when 514 00:22:56,910 --> 00:22:59,910 ‫and is killing it, but I think not only 515 00:22:59,910 --> 00:23:02,943 ‫is a good photographer, but over time, 516 00:23:05,850 --> 00:23:07,650 ‫you build up the consistency 517 00:23:07,650 --> 00:23:10,470 ‫and he's been very consistent with stuff. 518 00:23:10,470 --> 00:23:13,050 ‫So I would go check that stuff out. 519 00:23:13,050 --> 00:23:15,503 ‫I wanted to say something else but now I forgot what it was. 520 00:23:16,590 --> 00:23:18,240 ‫Oh, I forgot to tell you guys. 521 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:19,350 ‫Maybe I did this offline, 522 00:23:19,350 --> 00:23:20,520 ‫but we haven't streamed since then. 523 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,560 ‫But that wedding that I shot in Houston, 524 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,180 ‫did we talk about this? 525 00:23:24,180 --> 00:23:25,013 ‫-: No. ‫-: Online. 526 00:23:26,002 --> 00:23:27,630 ‫And I was shooting alongside this videographer, 527 00:23:27,630 --> 00:23:30,457 ‫and halfway through he came up and was like, 528 00:23:30,457 --> 00:23:32,100 ‫"Wait. Are you Will? 529 00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:34,650 ‫Like, do you know Phil Ebner?" 530 00:23:34,650 --> 00:23:36,120 ‫And I was like, "Yeah." 531 00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:37,507 ‫And I was working with him all day and he is like, 532 00:23:37,507 --> 00:23:42,450 ‫"Oh my god. I've taken all your classes online. 533 00:23:42,450 --> 00:23:43,620 ‫If it weren't for Phil, 534 00:23:43,620 --> 00:23:46,590 ‫I wouldn't know how to edit wedding videos. 535 00:23:46,590 --> 00:23:48,453 ‫He, like, inspired me to do this." 536 00:23:48,453 --> 00:23:49,410 ‫And this is in like some random place in Texas. 537 00:23:49,410 --> 00:23:51,690 ‫He's like, "I had no idea we were shooting together. 538 00:23:51,690 --> 00:23:53,760 ‫He wanted to take like a selfie with me." 539 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,302 ‫-: That's so funny. 540 00:23:55,302 --> 00:23:57,193 ‫-: The couple was like, what is happening right now? 541 00:23:57,193 --> 00:23:58,320 ‫(Will laughing) ‫-: That is so funny. 542 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,890 ‫Oh, I have a little buddy who wants to come chat. 543 00:24:01,890 --> 00:24:03,487 ‫-: Oh, what up? 544 00:24:03,487 --> 00:24:04,320 ‫-: Can you answer the questions ‫-: Oh, hey. 545 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,200 ‫-: about photography? 546 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:07,383 ‫-: She's like, no. 547 00:24:09,030 --> 00:24:10,130 ‫-: Where are you going? 548 00:24:10,980 --> 00:24:12,567 ‫-: Love you. 549 00:24:12,567 --> 00:24:13,914 ‫(indistinct talking) 550 00:24:13,914 --> 00:24:14,747 ‫-: Okay. 551 00:24:14,747 --> 00:24:15,580 ‫-: Anyway, sorry, not to hijack that. 552 00:24:15,580 --> 00:24:16,440 ‫But I thought that was cool. 553 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,563 ‫It's just nice seeing in person 554 00:24:18,563 --> 00:24:22,293 ‫the effect that we can have on people shooting stuff. 555 00:24:23,648 --> 00:24:24,570 ‫-: That's a great reminder. 556 00:24:24,570 --> 00:24:26,010 ‫I mean, like we mentioned. 557 00:24:26,010 --> 00:24:28,860 ‫So you kind of hinted at, but we have a couple students, 558 00:24:28,860 --> 00:24:33,860 ‫a couple maybe here, Barry and Brittany who started out 559 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:39,080 ‫with us on Plus and taking classes and now you have these 560 00:24:39,210 --> 00:24:41,790 ‫great websites that you've been working on 561 00:24:41,790 --> 00:24:43,350 ‫and sharing with us. 562 00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:45,630 ‫And, Barry, you have a question about 563 00:24:45,630 --> 00:24:50,580 ‫overcoming imposter syndrome, but it's great to see 564 00:24:50,580 --> 00:24:53,223 ‫students, you know, actually taking action. 565 00:24:55,170 --> 00:24:56,100 ‫It's not just us. 566 00:24:56,100 --> 00:25:00,510 ‫It's, like, taking action and doing the work and... 567 00:25:00,510 --> 00:25:03,260 ‫-: Yeah, and that's, I think, one of the biggest things. 568 00:25:05,730 --> 00:25:10,730 ‫It's taking photography from a hobby to a job or a career 569 00:25:11,860 --> 00:25:14,100 ‫or even a part-time job. 570 00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:18,510 ‫But like Brittany went out and set up a photo shoot 571 00:25:18,510 --> 00:25:20,790 ‫with 10 models and hair and makeup 572 00:25:20,790 --> 00:25:23,940 ‫and I mean, had this crazy day of production, 573 00:25:23,940 --> 00:25:25,830 ‫but she just posted her new website 574 00:25:25,830 --> 00:25:27,900 ‫and there's tons of amazing work. 575 00:25:27,900 --> 00:25:29,580 ‫I mean, some from other photo shoots as well, 576 00:25:29,580 --> 00:25:30,600 ‫but a bunch from that. 577 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:35,600 ‫And, you know, it's kind of all the conversations we have, 578 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,110 ‫all the courses we teach. 579 00:25:37,110 --> 00:25:39,450 ‫It's all great and it's a good base, 580 00:25:39,450 --> 00:25:42,660 ‫but until you're going out and doing the work 581 00:25:42,660 --> 00:25:45,600 ‫and doing four weddings in a single weekend 582 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,300 ‫or getting clients and working with people 583 00:25:48,300 --> 00:25:49,890 ‫and establishing those relationships, 584 00:25:49,890 --> 00:25:53,430 ‫I mean, that's the real marathon to all this 585 00:25:53,430 --> 00:25:56,610 ‫because you gotta keep going and you gotta keep connecting 586 00:25:56,610 --> 00:25:58,770 ‫with people and you gotta keep, you know. 587 00:25:58,770 --> 00:26:02,670 ‫There's a question in "Photo and Friends" about, you know, 588 00:26:02,670 --> 00:26:05,760 ‫leaving a client or moving on 589 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,370 ‫and the fear of losing that connection. 590 00:26:08,370 --> 00:26:10,560 ‫And it's like, well, why do you have to stop 591 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,980 ‫that connection, unless it's, like, you don't like working 592 00:26:13,980 --> 00:26:16,020 ‫with the people, then yeah, don't work with people. 593 00:26:16,020 --> 00:26:18,630 ‫But, you know, it's kind of like, 594 00:26:18,630 --> 00:26:19,770 ‫Will and I have this whole rule, 595 00:26:19,770 --> 00:26:20,790 ‫and I'm sure we've talked about it, 596 00:26:20,790 --> 00:26:23,580 ‫but you always give something a year, you know. 597 00:26:23,580 --> 00:26:26,610 ‫You might have a conversation today and you give it a year 598 00:26:26,610 --> 00:26:29,460 ‫because it's not gonna happen overnight that someone's like, 599 00:26:29,460 --> 00:26:31,980 ‫oh yeah, like let's work together tomorrow. 600 00:26:31,980 --> 00:26:34,890 ‫It's probably gonna be in a year. 601 00:26:34,890 --> 00:26:37,230 ‫And if you keep posting to Instagram, 602 00:26:37,230 --> 00:26:40,320 ‫if you remind people about the work you're doing or share 603 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,690 ‫new work with, you know, important vendors 604 00:26:42,690 --> 00:26:45,360 ‫or important people, you know, that's how you keep them 605 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:48,210 ‫on your radar and you keep them reminded of, you know, 606 00:26:48,210 --> 00:26:49,710 ‫the work you do and that you do good work 607 00:26:49,710 --> 00:26:52,323 ‫and the type of photography you do or video. 608 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,610 ‫But, Barry, you're an amazing photographer 609 00:26:56,610 --> 00:27:00,210 ‫and I understand imposter syndrome, 610 00:27:00,210 --> 00:27:03,870 ‫but you are more than capable than taking great photos 611 00:27:03,870 --> 00:27:05,190 ‫and you've worked with clients and they've been 612 00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:06,303 ‫happy with your work. 613 00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:11,610 ‫Asking for money is just always a kind of a strange thing 614 00:27:11,610 --> 00:27:14,580 ‫and everyone approaches it differently. 615 00:27:14,580 --> 00:27:16,770 ‫Will and I have talked that we're horrible at business 616 00:27:16,770 --> 00:27:20,593 ‫because we're oftentimes too to lax 617 00:27:22,410 --> 00:27:24,450 ‫with our conversations around money. 618 00:27:24,450 --> 00:27:29,450 ‫But, you know, finding what's fair, finding what's justified 619 00:27:29,490 --> 00:27:32,220 ‫and setting out those parameters beforehand, 620 00:27:32,220 --> 00:27:33,750 ‫I think is what's most important, 621 00:27:33,750 --> 00:27:35,700 ‫just so you don't get in awkward situations. 622 00:27:35,700 --> 00:27:38,040 ‫It's like we went to Ghirardelli 623 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,373 ‫and when we first got started and we gave them a budget. 624 00:27:42,210 --> 00:27:43,350 ‫Oh yeah, this is great. 625 00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:45,450 ‫And then we were locked in for the next 10 years 626 00:27:45,450 --> 00:27:48,540 ‫and we slowly could charge more, but our initial rate 627 00:27:48,540 --> 00:27:51,990 ‫was so low, but that's what we set it at. 628 00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:53,340 ‫And so they're like, "Oh yeah, these guys are great. 629 00:27:53,340 --> 00:27:54,570 ‫and they worked for cheap." 630 00:27:54,570 --> 00:27:58,920 ‫And it took so many years to, like, slowly build that up. 631 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,890 ‫But once we went to the next big client, 632 00:28:01,890 --> 00:28:05,250 ‫we were able to from the get go, start at a higher number. 633 00:28:05,250 --> 00:28:06,720 ‫But it took... 634 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,170 ‫-: Sometimes, I mean, this is different than photography. 635 00:28:10,170 --> 00:28:15,170 ‫But I feel the same way too with, like, my online business 636 00:28:15,180 --> 00:28:19,980 ‫and I'll get approached by people who want me to partner 637 00:28:19,980 --> 00:28:22,080 ‫on a video or do a sponsored video. 638 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:27,080 ‫And usually I'm, either just don't do it or I say, 639 00:28:27,330 --> 00:28:31,440 ‫okay, yeah, I'll do it, but I'll just do it for free 640 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,170 ‫or whatever, reviewing things. 641 00:28:34,170 --> 00:28:37,413 ‫But there was a recent company that reached out to me. 642 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,110 ‫I was like, I'm at a point where I'm like, 643 00:28:40,110 --> 00:28:43,440 ‫I don't need to do every video partnership 644 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,300 ‫that someone comes to me with. 645 00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:47,927 ‫And so I was, like, I'm just gonna throw out this random 646 00:28:47,927 --> 00:28:51,240 ‫big number and they agreed to it. 647 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,459 ‫And I was like... ‫-: You're like, "Dang it." 648 00:28:53,459 --> 00:28:55,240 ‫-: Yeah, I was like, "I should've been doing that." 649 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,240 ‫Yeah. I was like, "Aww man, now I have to do the work." 650 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:58,374 ‫But no. 651 00:28:58,374 --> 00:29:01,890 ‫It was like, I have that imposter syndrome 652 00:29:01,890 --> 00:29:03,783 ‫with my online business still. 653 00:29:05,849 --> 00:29:08,220 ‫Yeah, I don't have any advice other than just, like, 654 00:29:08,220 --> 00:29:11,133 ‫you just gotta do it and see how it goes. 655 00:29:13,170 --> 00:29:15,570 ‫I think the thing is people, like when you're- 656 00:29:15,570 --> 00:29:18,360 ‫It's the same, like when you're doing photos at a wedding 657 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,900 ‫or if you're doing photos of, you know, portraits, 658 00:29:21,900 --> 00:29:26,790 ‫headshots, couples, photography, you might be nervous, 659 00:29:26,790 --> 00:29:29,760 ‫but they're nervous too and they don't, you know. 660 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,880 ‫They're hiring you because they don't know how to do it 661 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,640 ‫and they don't have anyone else to do it for them. 662 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:40,640 ‫And you know so much more than them about photography. 663 00:29:41,340 --> 00:29:42,173 ‫So. 664 00:29:43,950 --> 00:29:45,873 ‫Yeah. Barry, you can do it for sure. 665 00:29:47,610 --> 00:29:49,680 ‫We got a question. Let's see. 666 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,040 ‫ShutterbugDenise asked, "What causes the slight variation 667 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,830 ‫in aperture measured by my camera, 668 00:29:55,830 --> 00:30:00,060 ‫such as 5.5999 instead of 5.6?" 669 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,200 ‫84 and... ‫-: Huh. 670 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,820 ‫I've never heard of that. 671 00:30:05,820 --> 00:30:09,480 ‫The zoom one, if it's 84 instead of 85 millimeters, 672 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,900 ‫if you're on a zoom lens, that when you zoom in, 673 00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:14,133 ‫it would change that. 674 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,580 ‫-: Yeah, I guess I'm curious what lens 675 00:30:17,580 --> 00:30:18,630 ‫and what camera is this? 676 00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:23,510 ‫Because maybe it's like a lens that doesn't... 677 00:30:25,170 --> 00:30:28,230 ‫-: Oh, like a declicked aperture ring. 678 00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:29,899 ‫It looks like it's that plastic. 679 00:30:29,899 --> 00:30:33,330 ‫-: Maybe it's a knockoff brand kind of lens or something 680 00:30:33,330 --> 00:30:36,895 ‫that doesn't read properly in the camera. 681 00:30:36,895 --> 00:30:41,250 ‫'Cause 84 to 85 millimeter, that's not the aperture. 682 00:30:41,250 --> 00:30:44,190 ‫That's the focal length, right? 683 00:30:44,190 --> 00:30:45,023 ‫-: Yeah. 684 00:30:45,976 --> 00:30:48,120 ‫-: I don't know, Denise. 685 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,720 ‫-: It's not the focusing ring, it's for the prime. 686 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,557 ‫If it's a prime lens, it's just... 687 00:30:54,557 --> 00:30:56,640 ‫I mean, maybe your camera got an update 688 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:01,503 ‫and your 85 is more like an 84. 689 00:31:02,610 --> 00:31:04,050 ‫There's a whole thing, like. 690 00:31:04,050 --> 00:31:06,180 ‫Well, like the 28-millimeter on the Leica, 691 00:31:06,180 --> 00:31:08,530 ‫everyone's just like, it's not a 28-millimeter. 692 00:31:09,750 --> 00:31:13,143 ‫It really measures at, like, 26 or something like that. 693 00:31:14,644 --> 00:31:15,830 ‫It's a 28 and... 694 00:31:17,257 --> 00:31:19,840 ‫-: 55 to 250, is that the milli? 695 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:20,877 ‫(indistinct talking) 696 00:31:20,877 --> 00:31:23,430 ‫85 at 55 to 250? 697 00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:25,230 ‫-: Yeah, so you just, you were zooming in 698 00:31:25,230 --> 00:31:27,120 ‫and you weren't at exactly 85. 699 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,130 ‫You were slightly wider than 85, 700 00:31:29,130 --> 00:31:30,750 ‫and so that's why it said 84. 701 00:31:30,750 --> 00:31:33,150 ‫The aperture thing, I've no idea why it would 702 00:31:33,150 --> 00:31:37,050 ‫give you a 5.59999 readout. 703 00:31:37,050 --> 00:31:38,500 ‫-: Yeah, I've never seen that. 704 00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:46,083 ‫-: Any other questions, thoughts, things? 705 00:31:47,490 --> 00:31:48,600 ‫Oi. Wait. 706 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,550 ‫So you mentioned, Sam, ‫-: Oi. Oi, mate. 707 00:31:50,550 --> 00:31:53,940 ‫-: about your camera that you use for the wedding, 708 00:31:53,940 --> 00:31:57,723 ‫but what's your everyday carry nowadays? 709 00:31:58,830 --> 00:32:00,540 ‫-: Me? ‫-: Yeah, or both of you guys? 710 00:32:00,540 --> 00:32:01,805 ‫Yeah. 711 00:32:01,805 --> 00:32:02,640 ‫-: I mean... 712 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:03,930 ‫-: I sold everything. 713 00:32:03,930 --> 00:32:04,860 ‫-: Okay. ‫(Will laughing) 714 00:32:04,860 --> 00:32:07,500 ‫I think that's the same from last call, maybe. 715 00:32:07,500 --> 00:32:08,340 ‫-: Yeah, yeah. ‫-: Yeah. 716 00:32:08,340 --> 00:32:12,870 ‫-: No. He just bought that camera. (chuckles) 717 00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:15,150 ‫-: Well, that's the camera I bought in replacement 718 00:32:15,150 --> 00:32:17,037 ‫of all my other cameras, because now I don't have 719 00:32:17,037 --> 00:32:18,180 ‫any other cameras. 720 00:32:18,180 --> 00:32:19,680 ‫-: Nice camera. 721 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,770 ‫Mine is a Leica Q2, which I've been every day 722 00:32:22,770 --> 00:32:24,693 ‫carrying since 2020. 723 00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:27,810 ‫-: Nice. 724 00:32:27,810 --> 00:32:30,510 ‫-: Three years, and I don't have any plans to get rid of it. 725 00:32:30,510 --> 00:32:34,980 ‫But I was shooting some behind the scenes on a music video. 726 00:32:34,980 --> 00:32:37,290 ‫I was doing video and I had the cue around me and I got some 727 00:32:37,290 --> 00:32:39,839 ‫really awesome photos with the Q2. 728 00:32:39,839 --> 00:32:40,980 ‫(indistinct talking) 729 00:32:40,980 --> 00:32:43,040 ‫Editorial looking shots, (coughing). 730 00:32:44,220 --> 00:32:45,520 ‫Excuse me, which is great. 731 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,170 ‫-: I just found my Nikkormat. 732 00:32:52,170 --> 00:32:55,050 ‫Phil, I think we might have been together. 733 00:32:55,050 --> 00:32:58,770 ‫Phil and I studied abroad in Germany and we did a class trip 734 00:32:58,770 --> 00:33:02,640 ‫to the Czech Republic to Prague, and we went and found 735 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,210 ‫this old camera shop in, like, the old town or something. 736 00:33:06,210 --> 00:33:08,430 ‫And forget exactly who I was with, 737 00:33:08,430 --> 00:33:12,090 ‫but I bought a Nikkormat, which is like an old school 738 00:33:12,090 --> 00:33:13,443 ‫Nikon film camera. 739 00:33:14,458 --> 00:33:17,850 ‫-: Yeah. ‫-: And I was just moving things 740 00:33:17,850 --> 00:33:19,833 ‫around and I found that camera, 741 00:33:20,792 --> 00:33:22,080 ‫-: Awesome. ‫-: and there's a role in it 742 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,083 ‫that's probably a decade old at this point, 743 00:33:26,534 --> 00:33:28,110 ‫I want to shoot out to see if it's still any good, 744 00:33:28,110 --> 00:33:30,870 ‫but pretty excited to find that. 745 00:33:30,870 --> 00:33:32,550 ‫I don't have any Nikon lenses anymore though, 746 00:33:32,550 --> 00:33:36,510 ‫so I need to get something for that. 747 00:33:36,510 --> 00:33:38,280 ‫-: I have some Nikon lenses. ‫-: I'm sure you find, like, 748 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,453 ‫some old lenses. 749 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,820 ‫-: I think I have some old Nikon lenses 750 00:33:44,083 --> 00:33:47,210 ‫in our shared storage unit, Sam. (laughing) 751 00:33:47,210 --> 00:33:48,043 ‫-: Cool. Okay. 752 00:33:49,109 --> 00:33:51,390 ‫(indistinct talking) 753 00:33:51,390 --> 00:33:52,590 ‫-: I've been shooting more film. 754 00:33:52,590 --> 00:33:56,100 ‫I've been carrying around Sam's, like, what is it? 755 00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:57,420 ‫M7? 756 00:33:57,420 --> 00:33:58,253 ‫-: M7. Yeah. 757 00:33:58,253 --> 00:33:59,460 ‫-: I've been carrying that around a lot. 758 00:33:59,460 --> 00:34:02,310 ‫And then also my Hasselblad I've been trying to shoot on. 759 00:34:03,540 --> 00:34:05,340 ‫I had something really sad happen to me when we went- 760 00:34:05,340 --> 00:34:08,040 ‫I went to the ranch that we normally go to, like a couple, 761 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,770 ‫like a month before Sam and I went to work there 762 00:34:10,770 --> 00:34:15,770 ‫and I shot three rolls of 120 and three rolls of 35, 763 00:34:16,020 --> 00:34:17,340 ‫just testing out all these rolls. 764 00:34:17,340 --> 00:34:21,240 ‫I spent, like, 130 on the film itself 765 00:34:21,240 --> 00:34:24,330 ‫and, like, I was just having fun walking around. 766 00:34:24,330 --> 00:34:27,840 ‫I wasn't working. I was just enjoying taking photos. 767 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,750 ‫And I used a service where you're supposed 768 00:34:30,750 --> 00:34:32,790 ‫to mail the film in. 769 00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:34,680 ‫Instead of my traditional going to the shop 770 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,410 ‫in Torrance, California, I shipped these six 771 00:34:37,410 --> 00:34:40,410 ‫rolls of the film, paid for 'em through the service 772 00:34:40,410 --> 00:34:42,873 ‫and the post office lost all six. 773 00:34:44,670 --> 00:34:45,960 ‫-: Dang. 774 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,550 ‫-: I hate that story. ‫-: Are you watching 775 00:34:47,550 --> 00:34:49,830 ‫Peter McKinnon's YouTube videos, 776 00:34:49,830 --> 00:34:51,810 ‫'cause he is all about film photography. 777 00:34:51,810 --> 00:34:54,210 ‫-: Off and on. But, like, it's cool. 778 00:34:54,210 --> 00:34:55,470 ‫I've been in to film. 779 00:34:55,470 --> 00:34:57,660 ‫We've all been in a film our whole life. 780 00:34:57,660 --> 00:35:00,120 ‫Now it's like the trendy thing, which is cool. 781 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,260 ‫I appreciate it, 782 00:35:01,260 --> 00:35:04,020 ‫that everyone's checking it out and doing it. 783 00:35:04,020 --> 00:35:05,640 ‫It just, you know. 784 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,290 ‫Yeah. It's been great watching him. 785 00:35:07,290 --> 00:35:08,340 ‫-: Yeah. 786 00:35:08,340 --> 00:35:11,673 ‫-: I think it's wonderful that people want to get into film. 787 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,340 ‫It's just it's another camera. 788 00:35:17,340 --> 00:35:19,490 ‫It doesn't matter what camera you're using. 789 00:35:20,370 --> 00:35:22,470 ‫I can make any of my digital photos 790 00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:24,360 ‫look like film at this point. 791 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,840 ‫But the process of taking film photos, I think is wonderful. 792 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,820 ‫I think the biggest thing that people are missing out on 793 00:35:29,820 --> 00:35:32,640 ‫with shooting film though, is the darkroom aspect. 794 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,390 ‫I think that is incredibly important. 795 00:35:36,390 --> 00:35:37,860 ‫Like, as a photographer that taught me 796 00:35:37,860 --> 00:35:40,800 ‫so much about really, like- 797 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,590 ‫-: I'm sure that'll be Peter McKenna's next step. 798 00:35:43,590 --> 00:35:44,913 ‫He's gonna make it darker. 799 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,813 ‫-: He has the space, so I hope he does. 800 00:35:51,510 --> 00:35:54,360 ‫-: I don't watch many of his videos anymore, 801 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,600 ‫but I feel like every YouTuber I follow 802 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:02,600 ‫is on the exact same path of, I started YouTube 803 00:36:02,730 --> 00:36:07,200 ‫because I'm into video or photography and then all I do 804 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,460 ‫is make YouTube videos that are for the algorithm, 805 00:36:11,460 --> 00:36:15,060 ‫like camera review reviews and now I need to go back 806 00:36:15,060 --> 00:36:19,140 ‫to the art of what I really love and I'm taking a step back 807 00:36:19,140 --> 00:36:20,910 ‫from YouTube videos, blah, blah blah. 808 00:36:20,910 --> 00:36:24,930 ‫It's like literally the same arc, every creator that I see, 809 00:36:24,930 --> 00:36:27,330 ‫even if it's not photography, it's just like the whole 810 00:36:27,330 --> 00:36:31,982 ‫YouTube lifespan of creators, I feel. 811 00:36:31,982 --> 00:36:35,190 ‫And maybe it's just like the generation that I follow, 812 00:36:35,190 --> 00:36:38,100 ‫it's like this generation of YouTubers who started, like, 813 00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:42,300 ‫five, 10 years ago, they blew up and now they're like 814 00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:43,500 ‫getting burnt out on it. 815 00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:46,320 ‫But I just find it like really funny when every single 816 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,620 ‫YouTuber I follow is like, puts out the same video about 817 00:36:49,620 --> 00:36:52,230 ‫I need to step back and make videos 818 00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:54,150 ‫that I really want to make. 819 00:36:54,150 --> 00:36:55,859 ‫-: I need to do that too. 820 00:36:55,859 --> 00:36:56,953 ‫I'm so behind on my (laughing). 821 00:36:56,953 --> 00:37:00,000 ‫-: I do that too. (laughing) 822 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,340 ‫-: The whole concept of, like, all right, what am I doing 823 00:37:02,340 --> 00:37:04,590 ‫this week that's gonna be interesting 824 00:37:04,590 --> 00:37:07,410 ‫and let me look at the trends of what's pop culture 825 00:37:07,410 --> 00:37:09,720 ‫right now and let me go make- 826 00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:11,100 ‫I don't know, I just... 827 00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:14,070 ‫The thing I've gone really into, which I love 'cause I don't 828 00:37:14,070 --> 00:37:17,280 ‫really watch photography YouTube anymore, 829 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:22,080 ‫I don't care whatsoever is woodworking YouTube videos. 830 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,990 ‫And I love watching other creatives that have learned 831 00:37:24,990 --> 00:37:29,490 ‫how to do video to share their craft. 832 00:37:29,490 --> 00:37:34,490 ‫And, like, this one woman that does incredible woodwork, 833 00:37:34,860 --> 00:37:37,230 ‫she'll do these little video tricks and I can tell 834 00:37:37,230 --> 00:37:39,030 ‫she's so proud of herself. 835 00:37:39,030 --> 00:37:43,650 ‫She attached a GoPro to a piece of wood she's moving, 836 00:37:43,650 --> 00:37:45,840 ‫and the entire time, you see her eyes in the corner 837 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,747 ‫looking at the GoPro. 838 00:37:47,747 --> 00:37:48,630 ‫(Will laughing) 839 00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:49,580 ‫It's kind of funny. 840 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,190 ‫Yeah. That's how a lot of people use this. 841 00:37:53,190 --> 00:37:56,220 ‫And it's like, man, like if you're not a video maker though, 842 00:37:56,220 --> 00:37:59,730 ‫or photo person, like, you're having to take on a whole new 843 00:37:59,730 --> 00:38:03,483 ‫skillset on top of the thing that you're actually doing. 844 00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:07,231 ‫And it's, I don't know. I just got tired of, yeah. 845 00:38:07,231 --> 00:38:08,494 ‫I got tired of it. 846 00:38:08,494 --> 00:38:09,958 ‫-: Oh yeah. 847 00:38:09,958 --> 00:38:11,100 ‫-: Like I could be going out there 848 00:38:11,100 --> 00:38:13,740 ‫and doing some epic trip or doing some... 849 00:38:13,740 --> 00:38:15,333 ‫It's just like, nah. 850 00:38:19,620 --> 00:38:23,310 ‫-: There's one YouTuber that I've been enjoying a lot 851 00:38:23,310 --> 00:38:27,030 ‫that you might like, Sam, 'cause he does some woodwork but, 852 00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:29,700 ‫are just like projects is trout and coffee. 853 00:38:29,700 --> 00:38:32,220 ‫He's this guy that lives in, ‫(Will laughing) 854 00:38:32,220 --> 00:38:33,840 ‫I think Vermont. 855 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,010 ‫He has a cabin. 856 00:38:35,010 --> 00:38:36,590 ‫A lot of it's just like... 857 00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:39,210 ‫A lot of his original stuff was like, 858 00:38:39,210 --> 00:38:43,050 ‫just like fall foliage in Vermont. 859 00:38:43,050 --> 00:38:45,690 ‫But he does, like, a lot of projects around the house 860 00:38:45,690 --> 00:38:48,420 ‫and again, it's like he knows how to use 861 00:38:48,420 --> 00:38:50,550 ‫the camera really well. 862 00:38:50,550 --> 00:38:51,780 ‫So it's beautiful. 863 00:38:51,780 --> 00:38:54,870 ‫His stuff, I really like and it's kind of like 864 00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:59,870 ‫what I wish I would do if I had time or wanted to do video. 865 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,710 ‫Just like following him around the house, 866 00:39:01,710 --> 00:39:03,210 ‫like doing his projects. 867 00:39:03,210 --> 00:39:06,000 ‫But it's, like, beautiful and it's not, like, 868 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,133 ‫camera reviews and that kind of thing. 869 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:13,680 ‫But yeah. I don't know. 870 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:15,153 ‫YouTube. 871 00:39:15,153 --> 00:39:15,986 ‫-: I think we've got some questions. 872 00:39:15,986 --> 00:39:18,482 ‫-: Yeah. We got a lot of questions. (laughing) 873 00:39:18,482 --> 00:39:19,740 ‫(Will laughing) 874 00:39:19,740 --> 00:39:22,140 ‫All right, let's see. 875 00:39:22,140 --> 00:39:24,607 ‫Starting from the top, Amadu says, 876 00:39:24,607 --> 00:39:27,711 ‫"Any tips to call photos faster?" 877 00:39:27,711 --> 00:39:29,040 ‫Do you mean cull photos faster? 878 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,630 ‫Like, go through your photos faster? 879 00:39:31,630 --> 00:39:32,670 ‫-: I think they mean cull photos. 880 00:39:32,670 --> 00:39:35,100 ‫I would say for me, 'cause I cull photos all the time 881 00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:36,870 ‫and I do a lot of 'em. 882 00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:38,490 ‫You just have to find a groove 883 00:39:38,490 --> 00:39:39,750 ‫and you have to practice at it. 884 00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:42,360 ‫But a lot of times in Lightroom, I just scroll through 'em 885 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,590 ‫and use the star system. 886 00:39:43,590 --> 00:39:46,020 ‫So I'll go through 'em once, give 'em three stars 887 00:39:46,020 --> 00:39:48,660 ‫and then see the three stars and then go through 'em again 888 00:39:48,660 --> 00:39:49,530 ‫and get four stars. 889 00:39:49,530 --> 00:39:52,560 ‫But honestly, I'm really fast at it now because I've been 890 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,780 ‫doing it for almost 20 years. 891 00:39:54,780 --> 00:39:58,020 ‫So it just takes practice. 892 00:39:58,020 --> 00:40:00,690 ‫-: I think for me, finding the time of day 893 00:40:00,690 --> 00:40:03,960 ‫that is a good mindset of calling photos. 894 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,193 ‫If I do in the morning, there's other work 895 00:40:06,193 --> 00:40:08,250 ‫I have to get done and I don't like culling 896 00:40:08,250 --> 00:40:09,090 ‫photos in the morning. 897 00:40:09,090 --> 00:40:11,250 ‫But in the afternoon, when I'm kind of like tapped out 898 00:40:11,250 --> 00:40:13,470 ‫for the day, I'm just gonna sit back. 899 00:40:13,470 --> 00:40:17,280 ‫Gonna like, I don't know, drink some iced tea and lemonade 900 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,690 ‫and just, like, sit through thousands of photos, 901 00:40:21,690 --> 00:40:24,780 ‫star rating them, and the more you can do that 902 00:40:24,780 --> 00:40:28,590 ‫on the front end, the easier it all gets later on. 903 00:40:28,590 --> 00:40:29,850 ‫Will, one thing I did start doing 904 00:40:29,850 --> 00:40:32,910 ‫was the colored flags as well. 905 00:40:32,910 --> 00:40:35,550 ‫It's like this is for... 906 00:40:35,550 --> 00:40:37,860 ‫This is gonna be like, you know, 907 00:40:37,860 --> 00:40:40,413 ‫I did for, like, the bride and then for the groom. 908 00:40:41,370 --> 00:40:45,210 ‫So marked different meanings of different photos 909 00:40:45,210 --> 00:40:46,530 ‫and then I also did the star system. 910 00:40:46,530 --> 00:40:51,270 ‫But you just gotta sit there and go through one by one and- 911 00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:52,560 ‫-: Yeah, Lightroom is fast 912 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,530 ‫'cause one, two, three, four, five. 913 00:40:55,530 --> 00:40:57,690 ‫One, two, three, four, five are all star ratings 914 00:40:57,690 --> 00:41:01,470 ‫on your keyboard, and then six is red, seven is green, 915 00:41:01,470 --> 00:41:02,760 ‫eight and nine are colors too. 916 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,033 ‫And then also if you hit F on your keyboard, it'll flag it. 917 00:41:06,930 --> 00:41:10,170 ‫So there's ways to just- ‫-: Well, I mean, that brings up 918 00:41:10,170 --> 00:41:11,550 ‫a good point though. 919 00:41:11,550 --> 00:41:13,750 ‫I don't know, AmaduYourPhotos, 920 00:41:14,610 --> 00:41:17,940 ‫if you use Lightroom Classic to go through your photos, 921 00:41:17,940 --> 00:41:20,010 ‫if you're using another app, if you're trying to do it 922 00:41:20,010 --> 00:41:23,940 ‫in your computer's documents, it's a lot harder than using 923 00:41:23,940 --> 00:41:26,700 ‫a tool that's made for organizing photos 924 00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:28,500 ‫like Lightroom Classic. 925 00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:30,060 ‫-: Yeah. 926 00:41:30,060 --> 00:41:31,800 ‫-: So yeah. 927 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,480 ‫-: What else we got? 928 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,776 ‫-: Let's see. 929 00:41:34,776 --> 00:41:39,180 ‫Okay, Michael asks advice for first wedding. 930 00:41:39,180 --> 00:41:40,290 ‫-: Ooh, congratulations. 931 00:41:40,290 --> 00:41:42,060 ‫-: Yeah. That's awesome. 932 00:41:42,060 --> 00:41:44,220 ‫And I know it can be nerve wracking too, 933 00:41:44,220 --> 00:41:48,153 ‫so that feeling is totally normal. 934 00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:53,340 ‫-: If there's an event planner or somebody 935 00:41:53,340 --> 00:41:56,790 ‫that you can talk to about the schedule beforehand, 936 00:41:56,790 --> 00:41:59,430 ‫knowing, like, what the order of events is gonna be 937 00:41:59,430 --> 00:42:01,410 ‫and knowing where you need to be. 938 00:42:01,410 --> 00:42:03,150 ‫And if you can, also get there earlier 939 00:42:03,150 --> 00:42:05,820 ‫and scout the location and know where, 940 00:42:05,820 --> 00:42:07,830 ‫okay, from four to five is your time to do 941 00:42:07,830 --> 00:42:08,663 ‫photos with the couple. 942 00:42:08,663 --> 00:42:10,080 ‫It's like, well, where are you going? 943 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:11,580 ‫And, like, know location you want to go, 944 00:42:11,580 --> 00:42:14,003 ‫know what the lighting's gonna be, find that place. 945 00:42:15,930 --> 00:42:16,800 ‫Will. 946 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,938 ‫-: Yeah, I mean there's a million things. 947 00:42:18,938 --> 00:42:19,771 ‫(indistinct talking) 948 00:42:19,771 --> 00:42:20,604 ‫I've shot so many weddings. 949 00:42:20,604 --> 00:42:24,450 ‫But I would say, like, know the event order. 950 00:42:24,450 --> 00:42:26,850 ‫That's a really good thing to do. 951 00:42:26,850 --> 00:42:30,030 ‫And remember, like, you're trying to tell a story 952 00:42:30,030 --> 00:42:31,230 ‫more than anything else. 953 00:42:31,230 --> 00:42:34,530 ‫So, you know, and doing that wide, medium, close. 954 00:42:34,530 --> 00:42:37,410 ‫Everything that's happening, do a wide, medium, close. 955 00:42:37,410 --> 00:42:39,900 ‫Like, putting on rings? Wide, medium, close. 956 00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:42,570 ‫Getting ready? Wide, medium, close, you know. 957 00:42:42,570 --> 00:42:44,670 ‫Speech? Wide, medium close. 958 00:42:44,670 --> 00:42:48,390 ‫And then keep in mind that the best photos, 959 00:42:48,390 --> 00:42:50,280 ‫at least for me in a photojournalistic sense, 960 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,630 ‫not every photo is gonna be in what is actually happening. 961 00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:56,250 ‫When the bride and groom are up there 962 00:42:56,250 --> 00:43:00,030 ‫or when the partners are up there, look at the audience. 963 00:43:00,030 --> 00:43:01,260 ‫Is somebody crying? 964 00:43:01,260 --> 00:43:03,840 ‫Does someone have their hand over their mouth? 965 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,280 ‫Think about, there's a speech. 966 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,650 ‫Right after the speech, there's always hugs 967 00:43:07,650 --> 00:43:09,480 ‫and those are really good photos. 968 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,610 ‫So, you know, wide, medium, close of everything. 969 00:43:11,610 --> 00:43:13,360 ‫But keep in mind that it's not just 970 00:43:14,490 --> 00:43:16,920 ‫the event that's happening, it's other people around 971 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:18,180 ‫that are doing things. 972 00:43:18,180 --> 00:43:19,680 ‫So keep an eye out for that. 973 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,390 ‫And then, you'll get really wonderful photos 974 00:43:21,390 --> 00:43:23,490 ‫and a lot of people don't necessarily get all the time, 975 00:43:23,490 --> 00:43:25,050 ‫And just try to be present. 976 00:43:25,050 --> 00:43:28,080 ‫Just try to remember to slow down and, like, be there 977 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,660 ‫and understand what's happening around you. (laughing) 978 00:43:30,660 --> 00:43:34,500 ‫-: From the words of Ted lasso. Be a goldfish. 979 00:43:34,500 --> 00:43:36,510 ‫Should anything happen during the event 980 00:43:36,510 --> 00:43:40,320 ‫that you missed a shot, whatever it is, just keep going. 981 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,390 ‫Like, you're there for someone's wedding. 982 00:43:42,390 --> 00:43:44,280 ‫Everyone there's family and friends. 983 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,450 ‫Be a family and friend. 984 00:43:45,450 --> 00:43:49,200 ‫Like, be in a good mood. Have fun with it. 985 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,490 ‫If you miss something, don't worry about it. 986 00:43:50,490 --> 00:43:52,590 ‫Move on to the next thing, get the next thing. 987 00:43:52,590 --> 00:43:55,590 ‫Just don't, you know... 988 00:43:55,590 --> 00:43:58,110 ‫Try to stay in the moment and stay present 989 00:43:58,110 --> 00:44:01,017 ‫with whatever's happening and have fun with it 990 00:44:01,017 --> 00:44:04,590 ‫and be personable and, you know, yeah. 991 00:44:04,590 --> 00:44:06,960 ‫-: And they've hired you for a purpose. 992 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,010 ‫So, you know. 993 00:44:08,010 --> 00:44:11,100 ‫And this goes for all of you as photographers. 994 00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:14,115 ‫Brittany, Nicholas, like, you guys are hired for a reason 995 00:44:14,115 --> 00:44:16,950 ‫and that's you and you're there to be there 996 00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:20,130 ‫and trust that there's a reason why you're there, you know? 997 00:44:20,130 --> 00:44:21,810 ‫Just be yourself and do your thing. 998 00:44:21,810 --> 00:44:23,160 ‫-: I just wanna echo though. 999 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,010 ‫So, Michael, I'm not sure if this is true 1000 00:44:26,010 --> 00:44:27,030 ‫or I'm reading into it. 1001 00:44:27,030 --> 00:44:29,160 ‫But you're saying for someone who's never shot 1002 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,810 ‫or been to a wedding before. 1003 00:44:30,810 --> 00:44:33,030 ‫So maybe, I don't know how old you are. 1004 00:44:33,030 --> 00:44:34,620 ‫Maybe you're... 1005 00:44:34,620 --> 00:44:37,440 ‫I remember like getting out of college or whatever 1006 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,590 ‫and starting doing wedding videos and feeling like, 1007 00:44:40,590 --> 00:44:44,400 ‫yeah, I don't even know what a wedding, the process is like. 1008 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:49,230 ‫So yeah, talking to the coordinator and just making sure 1009 00:44:49,230 --> 00:44:52,650 ‫you know each of the moments is so important. 1010 00:44:52,650 --> 00:44:55,800 ‫I mean, we go over that in the wedding photography class. 1011 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,100 ‫The other thing that I will say is if you've never been 1012 00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:03,330 ‫to the venue before, if you can go there ahead of time, 1013 00:45:03,330 --> 00:45:07,540 ‫check it out so that you know where you might want to take 1014 00:45:08,550 --> 00:45:12,510 ‫like, couples photos or family photos. 1015 00:45:12,510 --> 00:45:14,970 ‫And if you can't go to the venue, 1016 00:45:14,970 --> 00:45:17,790 ‫maybe look online on Instagram at, like, 1017 00:45:17,790 --> 00:45:20,010 ‫the venue's location or on Google. 1018 00:45:20,010 --> 00:45:23,250 ‫Search for, like, the location and wedding to see 1019 00:45:23,250 --> 00:45:27,150 ‫if there's any wedding photos out there for inspiration. 1020 00:45:27,150 --> 00:45:28,980 ‫So you can see ahead of time, like, 1021 00:45:28,980 --> 00:45:33,360 ‫okay, there's this cool tree or there's this great patio 1022 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:38,250 ‫that at this specific time of day, might have good lighting, 1023 00:45:38,250 --> 00:45:41,040 ‫just so, like, on the day of you're not running around 1024 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:45,720 ‫trying to find these places or at the very least, 1025 00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:49,770 ‫get there early ahead of time and try to do that. 1026 00:45:49,770 --> 00:45:53,940 ‫So yeah, hopefully all that helps. 1027 00:45:53,940 --> 00:45:54,903 ‫-: Keep us posted. 1028 00:45:55,755 --> 00:45:58,170 ‫-: Yeah, good luck. 1029 00:45:58,170 --> 00:46:01,530 ‫Nikolai asks, thank you, great stream so far. 1030 00:46:01,530 --> 00:46:02,363 ‫Appreciate it. 1031 00:46:02,363 --> 00:46:04,542 ‫Hit that like button if you're enjoying the stream 1032 00:46:04,542 --> 00:46:06,334 ‫and want us to do more of them. 1033 00:46:06,334 --> 00:46:08,640 ‫(Will laughing) 1034 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,547 ‫What gear is the best for portrait photography 1035 00:46:11,547 --> 00:46:12,903 ‫and what do we use? 1036 00:46:14,250 --> 00:46:18,030 ‫-: I go back and forth for the headshots that I do corporate. 1037 00:46:18,030 --> 00:46:22,113 ‫Or for actors and stuff, I use an 85-millimeter prime. 1038 00:46:23,190 --> 00:46:28,190 ‫That's like my go-to portrait lens that I use for stuff, 85. 1039 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,980 ‫I think I'll switch over to the 28 on the Q2 when I'm doing 1040 00:46:31,980 --> 00:46:34,230 ‫like a portrait session or just have it on the side create 1041 00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:36,663 ‫some context if it's not in a studio. 1042 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,113 ‫But yeah. 1043 00:46:39,113 --> 00:46:42,659 ‫I mean, primes for me are like the best thing to use. 1044 00:46:42,659 --> 00:46:43,492 ‫85, 50. 1045 00:46:44,850 --> 00:46:49,290 ‫-: I've been going through my, all my photos to create 1046 00:46:49,290 --> 00:46:51,840 ‫a portfolio online for my website 1047 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:56,070 ‫and, like, I do think that a 50-millimeter 1048 00:46:56,070 --> 00:47:00,600 ‫or 85-millimeter prime is best. 1049 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,380 ‫But I've also never done really headshot sessions or formal, 1050 00:47:04,380 --> 00:47:06,060 ‫like that kind of thing. 1051 00:47:06,060 --> 00:47:11,060 ‫All my favorite portraits were taken with my Leica Q or Q2 1052 00:47:11,290 --> 00:47:15,540 ‫and now the Q3 and all of that is a 28-millimeter. 1053 00:47:15,540 --> 00:47:17,790 ‫-: Full frame. 1054 00:47:17,790 --> 00:47:21,933 ‫I'm not sure I would ever suggest someone that for that. 1055 00:47:22,770 --> 00:47:23,670 ‫That use. 1056 00:47:23,670 --> 00:47:26,280 ‫But for my style and traveling 1057 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,590 ‫and the situations I end up in, like, 1058 00:47:28,590 --> 00:47:30,060 ‫I just really like them. 1059 00:47:30,060 --> 00:47:32,832 ‫They're wider portraits. 1060 00:47:32,832 --> 00:47:34,587 ‫They're definitely not like a headshot but. 1061 00:47:34,587 --> 00:47:36,750 ‫-: But they create some context, especially if you're, like, 1062 00:47:36,750 --> 00:47:38,010 ‫out in the fields. 1063 00:47:38,010 --> 00:47:39,840 ‫I think it just depends on your style, like, 1064 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,960 ‫what you're trying to achieve. ‫-: Yeah. Exactly. 1065 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,110 ‫-: And I've done a few, you know, portrait sessions 1066 00:47:46,110 --> 00:47:50,400 ‫with a crop sensor camera, the Fuji XT4, 1067 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:55,020 ‫and I'm on the 56-millimeter, which is close to that 85 1068 00:47:55,020 --> 00:47:57,300 ‫for more of the headshot. 1069 00:47:57,300 --> 00:48:00,030 ‫But when I've done, like, couples, 1070 00:48:00,030 --> 00:48:02,970 ‫like, engagement photos or family photos, 1071 00:48:02,970 --> 00:48:07,170 ‫I like to have a wider lens too, which I'll prob- 1072 00:48:07,170 --> 00:48:09,150 ‫I think, I'm trying to remember what I bring. 1073 00:48:09,150 --> 00:48:12,360 ‫I think I just stick to my 16 to 55, 1074 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:17,360 ‫which is like a 24 to 70, which isn't necessarily, like, 1075 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:22,400 ‫the best portrait lens, but I can be wide enough for those 1076 00:48:23,220 --> 00:48:26,700 ‫family photos where they're like sitting on a bench 1077 00:48:26,700 --> 00:48:29,250 ‫or walking down a path or something where they're more 1078 00:48:29,250 --> 00:48:32,040 ‫in the environment, full body shots. 1079 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:36,210 ‫So I think it depends on who you're photographing. 1080 00:48:36,210 --> 00:48:39,240 ‫But if you're trying to get those more environmental shots, 1081 00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:43,140 ‫a 56 or an 85 might be a little tight 1082 00:48:43,140 --> 00:48:44,883 ‫for those kinds of things. 1083 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:48,593 ‫Cool. 1084 00:48:50,100 --> 00:48:51,900 ‫Just a note, Dickinson Eckhart, 1085 00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:54,000 ‫you asked about a blue moon question. 1086 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,240 ‫I saw your comment about it but I didn't see 1087 00:48:57,240 --> 00:48:58,350 ‫what your question was. 1088 00:48:58,350 --> 00:49:00,783 ‫So maybe repeat that if you have that. 1089 00:49:02,610 --> 00:49:05,613 ‫Jose's asking if we're gonna do portfolio critiques. 1090 00:49:06,930 --> 00:49:09,430 ‫I'm not sure when our next live stream's gonna be. 1091 00:49:10,357 --> 00:49:13,380 ‫We'll try to set up, I think, more regular, 1092 00:49:13,380 --> 00:49:18,000 ‫a regular schedule of live streams for, I don't know. 1093 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,850 ‫In the future and we'll try to set that up soon. 1094 00:49:20,850 --> 00:49:22,950 ‫Maybe for our next live stream, 1095 00:49:22,950 --> 00:49:26,340 ‫we could just do, like, a portfolio critique 1096 00:49:26,340 --> 00:49:29,280 ‫and we can just have anybody who wants us 1097 00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,570 ‫to critique your portfolio, submit your photos ahead of time 1098 00:49:33,570 --> 00:49:36,150 ‫or a link to your portfolio. 1099 00:49:36,150 --> 00:49:39,540 ‫I think that'd be super cool and we'll set that up over 1100 00:49:39,540 --> 00:49:44,103 ‫on Plus, which you can join for free as our community. 1101 00:49:45,240 --> 00:49:48,540 ‫That's where we have all of our events scheduled anyways, 1102 00:49:48,540 --> 00:49:53,540 ‫and you can RSVP there, but we'll have a specific portfolio 1103 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,320 ‫critique session and as many people as we can, 1104 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,720 ‫we'll critique your portfolios. 1105 00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:03,090 ‫So I think we have talked about that in the past 1106 00:50:03,090 --> 00:50:05,010 ‫and we should definitely do that. 1107 00:50:05,010 --> 00:50:06,760 ‫Maybe we'll just do that next time. 1108 00:50:09,390 --> 00:50:14,390 ‫Bill is asking Will, is the 28 millimeter, 1109 00:50:14,430 --> 00:50:18,420 ‫does that fulfill most of your needs for your Q2? 1110 00:50:18,420 --> 00:50:20,250 ‫-: I'd say for my... 1111 00:50:20,250 --> 00:50:23,940 ‫-: For most people who don't know, it's a fixed lens camera. 1112 00:50:23,940 --> 00:50:25,650 ‫-: Yeah, it's a fixed lens camera, 1113 00:50:25,650 --> 00:50:29,850 ‫and I'd say, like, for my everyday carry, it does great. 1114 00:50:29,850 --> 00:50:31,083 ‫It's fine. 1115 00:50:31,083 --> 00:50:32,970 ‫I mean, when I have it and I'm walking around, 1116 00:50:32,970 --> 00:50:34,560 ‫yeah, for sure there are times where I'm like, 1117 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,040 ‫man, I wish I had, like, a 18 to shoot this landscape 1118 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,310 ‫or I had, like, a 200 to snag that thing 1119 00:50:41,310 --> 00:50:45,000 ‫that's really far away, but as an everyday camera, 1120 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,820 ‫I like that I've taken out the ability to make a decision 1121 00:50:47,820 --> 00:50:49,650 ‫on what lens to take out every day. 1122 00:50:49,650 --> 00:50:51,510 ‫It's, like, I just take that camera 1123 00:50:51,510 --> 00:50:54,780 ‫and then I get what I can get and I get what I can't get. 1124 00:50:54,780 --> 00:50:56,370 ‫It's a high megapixel camera. 1125 00:50:56,370 --> 00:50:58,097 ‫It's like what, Sam? Like 46, 47? 1126 00:50:59,330 --> 00:51:00,163 ‫-: 42. 1127 00:51:00,163 --> 00:51:01,140 ‫-: 42 megapixels. 1128 00:51:01,140 --> 00:51:04,200 ‫So, like, even at 28, you can crop in a significant amount 1129 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:08,160 ‫and still maintain, like, a really solid photo. 1130 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,828 ‫Now that's a Q2. The Q3 is 62? 1131 00:51:11,828 --> 00:51:12,661 ‫-: One. 1132 00:51:12,661 --> 00:51:13,830 ‫-: 61 megapixels. 1133 00:51:13,830 --> 00:51:16,743 ‫So even more so, and that's a fixed 28 as well. 1134 00:51:18,343 --> 00:51:19,710 ‫And then even while I'm shooting a wedding, 1135 00:51:19,710 --> 00:51:23,790 ‫during the ceremony, I have the 70 to 200 on my right side 1136 00:51:23,790 --> 00:51:25,560 ‫and then I keep the Q on my left. 1137 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,080 ‫The 28 has been a great wide shot for me, 1138 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,680 ‫at least wide that I want, while I'm using the 70 to 200 1139 00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:36,210 ‫on my other side and then I'll switch that out for 24 to 70 1140 00:51:36,210 --> 00:51:39,000 ‫and the 28's still like a good, you know, in-between 1141 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,790 ‫even though I can get to 24 on the other camera. 1142 00:51:41,790 --> 00:51:44,520 ‫So I don't know. the 28's been fine. 1143 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,590 ‫And I really do think there's something about being 1144 00:51:46,590 --> 00:51:49,140 ‫creative enough to, like, having restrictions 1145 00:51:49,140 --> 00:51:52,950 ‫around your creativity will allow you to push yourself more. 1146 00:51:52,950 --> 00:51:55,920 ‫And so, you know, if you're not close enough, like, 1147 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:57,210 ‫and you can walk up. 1148 00:51:57,210 --> 00:51:58,410 ‫If you can't, you can't. 1149 00:51:58,410 --> 00:52:00,120 ‫if you're not wide enough, walk back. 1150 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:01,470 ‫And if you can't, you can't. 1151 00:52:01,470 --> 00:52:04,410 ‫Do something else to create a creative composition 1152 00:52:04,410 --> 00:52:05,550 ‫or do what you need to do. 1153 00:52:05,550 --> 00:52:07,230 ‫That's just an everyday camera, right? 1154 00:52:07,230 --> 00:52:10,890 ‫If you're trying to shoot something specific, like sports, 1155 00:52:10,890 --> 00:52:12,600 ‫the 28's probably not gonna be great. 1156 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,030 ‫Or if you need to shoot an event, 1157 00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:17,610 ‫just the 28's not gonna be great. 1158 00:52:17,610 --> 00:52:18,990 ‫Or, like, you are doing portraits, 1159 00:52:18,990 --> 00:52:21,960 ‫but you want to have some compression in your subject, 1160 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,370 ‫the 28's not gonna be great. 1161 00:52:23,370 --> 00:52:26,190 ‫But if you're walking around and you want context, 1162 00:52:26,190 --> 00:52:29,340 ‫and you want to show why and you can do street photography, 1163 00:52:29,340 --> 00:52:31,500 ‫I think it's phenomenal and it's great 1164 00:52:31,500 --> 00:52:35,903 ‫and that quality on that camera specifically is phenomenal. 1165 00:52:35,903 --> 00:52:37,950 ‫So. And that's all I have to say about that. 1166 00:52:37,950 --> 00:52:39,510 ‫-: That's interesting, you talking about that 1167 00:52:39,510 --> 00:52:42,660 ‫'cause I'll just bring up this follow up question 1168 00:52:42,660 --> 00:52:46,260 ‫about if we could choose one lens and it had to be 1169 00:52:46,260 --> 00:52:48,780 ‫a prime lens, what would it be? 1170 00:52:48,780 --> 00:52:50,842 ‫-: He's getting to my heart strings here. 1171 00:52:50,842 --> 00:52:52,830 ‫-: Would it be different than the 28-millimeter? 1172 00:52:52,830 --> 00:52:56,190 ‫And personally, I always go back to my 16-millimeter 1173 00:52:56,190 --> 00:53:00,403 ‫on my Fuji film, which is probably 28. 1174 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,288 ‫-: It's pretty close to 28. 1175 00:53:03,288 --> 00:53:04,527 ‫-: 24. 1176 00:53:04,527 --> 00:53:07,590 ‫-: 24, 20, yeah. And so it's a little bit wider. 1177 00:53:07,590 --> 00:53:11,270 ‫I think for my photography it's... 1178 00:53:12,736 --> 00:53:14,850 ‫I mean, I'm just always taking photos of, like, 1179 00:53:14,850 --> 00:53:15,840 ‫my kids and stuff. 1180 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,420 ‫So, like, being too tight is so hard for me. 1181 00:53:18,420 --> 00:53:22,651 ‫So I'm always wider, generally. So. 1182 00:53:22,651 --> 00:53:25,200 ‫That would be mine, and that's on a crop sensor though. 1183 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:26,310 ‫So. 1184 00:53:26,310 --> 00:53:28,860 ‫-: I really am happy with a 28. 1185 00:53:28,860 --> 00:53:33,000 ‫I think even if given the option, I may go to a 35. 1186 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,840 ‫But for some reason, just having that little extra room, 1187 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,550 ‫and again, like I said, because it's a higher 1188 00:53:38,550 --> 00:53:43,500 ‫megapixel camera, we have the ability to crop in 1189 00:53:43,500 --> 00:53:47,490 ‫and the quality of the lens at 1.7 or even 28, 1190 00:53:47,490 --> 00:53:50,463 ‫there's still a ton of fall off on it that looks nice. 1191 00:53:51,930 --> 00:53:54,630 ‫So yeah, I don't know. Maybe it depends on the camera. 1192 00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:56,370 ‫But I like the 28. 1193 00:53:56,370 --> 00:53:57,213 ‫-: Sam. 1194 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:03,150 ‫-: I mean, the Q's, I think, the best camera I ever made. 1195 00:54:03,150 --> 00:54:05,253 ‫I think the 28's perfect. 1196 00:54:07,950 --> 00:54:08,783 ‫Yeah. 1197 00:54:09,846 --> 00:54:12,030 ‫I agree with everything Will was saying. 1198 00:54:12,030 --> 00:54:15,270 ‫It's also like, it's a wonderful standalone camera 1199 00:54:15,270 --> 00:54:16,890 ‫and then it's also if you're doing an event 1200 00:54:16,890 --> 00:54:19,983 ‫or doing something else, it's an amazing second camera. 1201 00:54:21,210 --> 00:54:24,880 ‫If when I was doing the elopement thing, like having a 7,200 1202 00:54:25,950 --> 00:54:30,033 ‫and also ability to go to 16 or 35 or 24 70 as I need to, 1203 00:54:31,380 --> 00:54:36,380 ‫but the images and taking the time to step in closer, 1204 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,450 ‫step farther away with the 28 millimeter and the quality 1205 00:54:39,450 --> 00:54:41,973 ‫of that lens, it's just really hard to beat. 1206 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,420 ‫And I think you can get great portraits. 1207 00:54:45,420 --> 00:54:48,120 ‫You can get great wide shots. 1208 00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,030 ‫Yeah. It's a great all around focal length. 1209 00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:55,500 ‫-: A lot of people would probably like the 35-millimeter 1210 00:54:55,500 --> 00:55:00,500 ‫as an all around or what I have on my Fuji XT4 right now, 1211 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:06,680 ‫which is the 35, which is close to 50 on a full frame. 1212 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,228 ‫So. 1213 00:55:08,228 --> 00:55:09,900 ‫-: When I was learning photography in high school, 1214 00:55:09,900 --> 00:55:11,880 ‫back in the day when I was shooting film, 1215 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,210 ‫I shot on a 35 millimeter all the time, 1216 00:55:15,210 --> 00:55:17,910 ‫like just constantly and that was the only lens I had. 1217 00:55:17,910 --> 00:55:19,920 ‫And I think it taught me how to, like, 1218 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,320 ‫get good in compositions, you know? 1219 00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:23,153 ‫-: Yeah. 1220 00:55:24,030 --> 00:55:26,790 ‫I'm gonna bring up, we got three more questions. 1221 00:55:26,790 --> 00:55:28,110 ‫We'll hit them really quickly. 1222 00:55:28,110 --> 00:55:32,310 ‫I'm gonna start with this one Dickinson about photographing 1223 00:55:32,310 --> 00:55:34,440 ‫the moon with foreground. 1224 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:39,157 ‫It sounds like you had trouble getting the moon 1225 00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,360 ‫and the mountains in the shot. 1226 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:46,149 ‫Moon rose from a behind, but homes in front did not- 1227 00:55:46,149 --> 00:55:50,223 ‫-: I feel like that's just a matter of widening out. 1228 00:55:52,500 --> 00:55:54,363 ‫It might also- ‫-: When you say lost. 1229 00:55:55,380 --> 00:55:56,213 ‫Sorry. 1230 00:55:56,213 --> 00:55:58,380 ‫When you say Dickinson, when you lost the foreground, 1231 00:55:58,380 --> 00:56:00,180 ‫are you talking about just, like, 1232 00:56:00,180 --> 00:56:04,020 ‫literally cropping out that, or lost it in like exposure 1233 00:56:04,020 --> 00:56:05,307 ‫or something like that? 1234 00:56:05,307 --> 00:56:09,990 ‫-: Oh. Or maybe it was out of focus too much. 1235 00:56:09,990 --> 00:56:11,490 ‫-: Moon rose from behind, 1236 00:56:11,490 --> 00:56:14,013 ‫but homes in front did not have lights on. 1237 00:56:15,450 --> 00:56:18,990 ‫So I mean, if it's an exposure thing and you're exposing 1238 00:56:18,990 --> 00:56:23,990 ‫to the moon and that whole foreground is gonna be dark, 1239 00:56:24,450 --> 00:56:26,650 ‫then maybe that's what you're talking about. 1240 00:56:27,990 --> 00:56:28,890 ‫That's gonna be tough. 1241 00:56:28,890 --> 00:56:30,780 ‫I mean, if you're shooting in raw, 1242 00:56:30,780 --> 00:56:33,843 ‫maybe you can bring up that exposure. 1243 00:56:36,698 --> 00:56:38,651 ‫If you're more just asking about framing it, 1244 00:56:38,651 --> 00:56:40,680 ‫-: Oh yeah. Lost in exposure. 1245 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,210 ‫-: Okay. 1246 00:56:42,210 --> 00:56:44,400 ‫-: So lost in exposure, meaning they're too dark 1247 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:45,750 ‫compared to the moon probably, 1248 00:56:45,750 --> 00:56:47,760 ‫'cause the moon was so bright. 1249 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:48,593 ‫-: Yeah. 1250 00:56:48,593 --> 00:56:51,690 ‫Like, the foreground mountains were just black like the sky. 1251 00:56:51,690 --> 00:56:52,650 ‫-: Yeah, yeah. 1252 00:56:52,650 --> 00:56:56,010 ‫Which, because the moon is so bright and it's so much 1253 00:56:56,010 --> 00:56:59,493 ‫contrast compared to anything else you're taking a photo of, 1254 00:57:00,570 --> 00:57:02,190 ‫probably the only way to really do that would be 1255 00:57:02,190 --> 00:57:03,693 ‫a bracket exposure. 1256 00:57:04,606 --> 00:57:05,478 ‫-: Yeah. 1257 00:57:05,478 --> 00:57:08,880 ‫-: So taking one shot a lot faster, you know. 1258 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,040 ‫Higher F stop, higher shutter speed, whatever it is. 1259 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:15,060 ‫Lower ISO and then another one that allows in 1260 00:57:15,060 --> 00:57:18,120 ‫a lot more light to get a good exposure to the mountains 1261 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:19,520 ‫and then you just sort of... 1262 00:57:20,790 --> 00:57:22,740 ‫-: You have to comp them together and post. Yeah. 1263 00:57:22,740 --> 00:57:24,333 ‫You marry two photos. 1264 00:57:25,980 --> 00:57:27,480 ‫You're exposing for the moon and then exposing 1265 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,880 ‫for the mountains in two different photos 1266 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:30,720 ‫and then putting 'em together. 1267 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,100 ‫That's, I think, the only way to do it 1268 00:57:32,100 --> 00:57:33,750 ‫if it's that big of a bright difference 1269 00:57:33,750 --> 00:57:35,460 ‫depending on what camera you're using too. 1270 00:57:35,460 --> 00:57:37,230 ‫-: Yeah. Yeah. 1271 00:57:37,230 --> 00:57:40,290 ‫Bracketing. Sam on it with that. 1272 00:57:40,290 --> 00:57:42,570 ‫Good idea. All right. 1273 00:57:42,570 --> 00:57:45,003 ‫Amadu has two questions. 1274 00:57:46,650 --> 00:57:49,810 ‫Considering ever evolving trends in photography 1275 00:57:50,890 --> 00:57:53,010 ‫and the competitive nature of wedding photography, 1276 00:57:53,010 --> 00:57:54,690 ‫how do you envision, ‫-: Oh my god. 1277 00:57:54,690 --> 00:57:57,211 ‫-: adapting your creative style? 1278 00:57:57,211 --> 00:57:59,099 ‫-: Let's do a whole talk on this subject. 1279 00:57:59,099 --> 00:58:00,475 ‫-: Yeah. 1280 00:58:00,475 --> 00:58:03,319 ‫-: Let's do a live stream just on creativity. 1281 00:58:03,319 --> 00:58:06,120 ‫-: We'll have to try not to go too deep into this. 1282 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,523 ‫But I would say it's a tough balance. 1283 00:58:09,489 --> 00:58:11,550 ‫I had a wedding company with a friend 1284 00:58:11,550 --> 00:58:14,730 ‫and part of what he didn't like about it was that he didn't 1285 00:58:14,730 --> 00:58:16,740 ‫want to change his own photography style 1286 00:58:16,740 --> 00:58:21,030 ‫to match business trends, because that's just not 1287 00:58:21,030 --> 00:58:22,860 ‫what he wanted to do in an artistic way. 1288 00:58:22,860 --> 00:58:24,660 ‫Now I think there is a thing to be said about 1289 00:58:24,660 --> 00:58:26,430 ‫wedding photographers and that you are chosen 1290 00:58:26,430 --> 00:58:29,370 ‫as a wedding photographer based on your specific style. 1291 00:58:29,370 --> 00:58:34,370 ‫So should you keep up with the trends and adapting? 1292 00:58:34,650 --> 00:58:37,950 ‫Sure you can or you can try and make a niche for yourself 1293 00:58:37,950 --> 00:58:39,690 ‫in your specific style. 1294 00:58:39,690 --> 00:58:41,490 ‫I don't know. That's like a deep business question. 1295 00:58:41,490 --> 00:58:43,530 ‫It also depends on where you are in the world 1296 00:58:43,530 --> 00:58:45,870 ‫and where you're taking photos 'cause you know, 1297 00:58:45,870 --> 00:58:49,530 ‫a New York wedding photographer who shoots black and white 1298 00:58:49,530 --> 00:58:52,200 ‫is very different from someone that shoots in San Diego 1299 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:56,010 ‫and it's all bright and beachy stuff, so, yeah. 1300 00:58:56,010 --> 00:58:57,510 ‫-: Yeah, yeah. 1301 00:58:57,510 --> 00:58:58,950 ‫-: Hard question to answer 1302 00:58:58,950 --> 00:59:01,100 ‫-: We can talk maybe more. ‫-: In 30 seconds. 1303 00:59:03,150 --> 00:59:05,280 ‫-: Quick question. I think we all agree on this. 1304 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:07,530 ‫Rochelle talks about adding watermark. 1305 00:59:07,530 --> 00:59:10,350 ‫Asked about adding watermarks on social media. 1306 00:59:10,350 --> 00:59:11,790 ‫I would say no. 1307 00:59:11,790 --> 00:59:14,490 ‫Anybody that wants, it's just kind of a distraction 1308 00:59:14,490 --> 00:59:16,740 ‫that takes away from the art of your photo 1309 00:59:16,740 --> 00:59:21,420 ‫and anyone that really wants to steal your photo can easily 1310 00:59:21,420 --> 00:59:25,080 ‫remove a watermark, even if it's intricate, 1311 00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:29,147 ‫in a complicated area, AI can do that super easily now. 1312 00:59:29,147 --> 00:59:32,040 ‫-: And if you put it fully across your photo, 1313 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:33,750 ‫it's like you're taken away from the photo 1314 00:59:33,750 --> 00:59:34,583 ‫in the first place. 1315 00:59:34,583 --> 00:59:35,580 ‫I don't know. (laughing) 1316 00:59:35,580 --> 00:59:37,743 ‫-: Yeah, I don't think- 1317 00:59:38,820 --> 00:59:42,960 ‫Prove me wrong, but I don't think anyone has gotten 1318 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,600 ‫a job or anything because someone saw a photo 1319 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,970 ‫and looked and saw a watermark and was like, 1320 00:59:47,970 --> 00:59:50,130 ‫oh, I'm curious about that photographer. 1321 00:59:50,130 --> 00:59:53,550 ‫If it's on your social media and assuming people 1322 00:59:53,550 --> 00:59:56,043 ‫are seeing it from your social media, 1323 00:59:57,660 --> 01:00:00,090 ‫they already see who took the photo. 1324 01:00:00,090 --> 01:00:02,880 ‫And like I said, if someone wants to steal it, 1325 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,240 ‫regardless of if it has a water mark or not, 1326 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,550 ‫they can remove it and ‫-: Totally. 1327 01:00:08,550 --> 01:00:11,130 ‫-: it's hard to, yeah, prevent that. 1328 01:00:11,130 --> 01:00:11,963 ‫-: Yeah. 1329 01:00:13,410 --> 01:00:15,630 ‫-: We're at time. I think we should cut it. 1330 01:00:15,630 --> 01:00:17,066 ‫There was one more question. 1331 01:00:17,066 --> 01:00:18,780 ‫I don't know if you want to hit this question about, 1332 01:00:18,780 --> 01:00:23,460 ‫again, from Amadu about maintaining your own 1333 01:00:23,460 --> 01:00:26,520 ‫artistic passion and financial stability. 1334 01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:30,630 ‫Balancing that with creating unique 1335 01:00:30,630 --> 01:00:33,630 ‫and memorable experiences for clients. 1336 01:00:33,630 --> 01:00:37,170 ‫-: I think it's really, like, a never ending balance. 1337 01:00:37,170 --> 01:00:42,000 ‫And I'm currently working on a project or two projects that 1338 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:47,000 ‫I did my creative bit and had a plan and executed that 1339 01:00:47,130 --> 01:00:49,923 ‫and then the client came in and changed that. 1340 01:00:51,540 --> 01:00:53,250 ‫I'm not in a place to tell them they're wrong. 1341 01:00:53,250 --> 01:00:54,840 ‫I'm not in a place and I actually, 1342 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,610 ‫some of the changes that I fought against 1343 01:00:56,610 --> 01:01:00,450 ‫or internally fought against, I think did strengthen 1344 01:01:00,450 --> 01:01:02,610 ‫the piece and ultimately they're the ones paying 1345 01:01:02,610 --> 01:01:04,020 ‫and it's their choice. 1346 01:01:04,020 --> 01:01:08,337 ‫So there's times when I think it's good to battle for 1347 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,900 ‫or share that you really, you know, believe something 1348 01:01:12,900 --> 01:01:15,720 ‫should be a certain way, but when it's for a client 1349 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:19,380 ‫and you're doing that, you wanna deliver a good product. 1350 01:01:19,380 --> 01:01:23,100 ‫And the creative process, like, I think photography is very 1351 01:01:23,100 --> 01:01:24,510 ‫singular in a lot of ways. 1352 01:01:24,510 --> 01:01:28,170 ‫I think what film has taught me, working with large teams 1353 01:01:28,170 --> 01:01:31,170 ‫is that other people bring in creativity and other people 1354 01:01:31,170 --> 01:01:33,420 ‫have ideas that you might not see. 1355 01:01:33,420 --> 01:01:35,377 ‫And opposed to just shutting it out and saying, 1356 01:01:35,377 --> 01:01:37,290 ‫"No, I know everything. 1357 01:01:37,290 --> 01:01:39,810 ‫I'm the best at this and this is how we're doing it." 1358 01:01:39,810 --> 01:01:42,750 ‫It's like other people have ideas that can work 1359 01:01:42,750 --> 01:01:45,390 ‫and opposed to making that hard thing, 1360 01:01:45,390 --> 01:01:48,660 ‫but instead making it fun, like, creative endeavor 1361 01:01:48,660 --> 01:01:53,310 ‫and collaborating, I think, is hugely important. 1362 01:01:53,310 --> 01:01:54,270 ‫So. 1363 01:01:54,270 --> 01:01:56,880 ‫-: It's a balance and you're the one that has to decide if, 1364 01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,130 ‫you know, at what level do you wanna be sacrificing 1365 01:01:59,130 --> 01:02:01,530 ‫what you enjoy doing or not enjoy doing or what you wanna 1366 01:02:01,530 --> 01:02:03,000 ‫share as an artist or not. 1367 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,250 ‫It's just a constant balance. 1368 01:02:05,250 --> 01:02:06,600 ‫-: Yeah. 1369 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:10,396 ‫Well, this has been awesome. I'm glad we got back. 1370 01:02:10,396 --> 01:02:15,396 ‫And like I said, Sam, Will and I will chat about 1371 01:02:15,420 --> 01:02:18,360 ‫the frequency and when we can do these. 1372 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:22,740 ‫But Dickinson, thank you for the comment. 1373 01:02:22,740 --> 01:02:24,600 ‫We definitely wanna do this more often 1374 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,900 ‫and I think summer break was just a break 1375 01:02:27,900 --> 01:02:29,853 ‫and we're gonna be back at it. 1376 01:02:30,930 --> 01:02:33,120 ‫If you want us to do more of these, 1377 01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,240 ‫head over to Photography and Friends Plus, 1378 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,520 ‫which is free and let us know. 1379 01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,910 ‫But also, the other thing, just in return that you can do 1380 01:02:41,910 --> 01:02:45,210 ‫is review our classes that you've taken. 1381 01:02:45,210 --> 01:02:49,500 ‫I posted a link to your learning page on Udemy, 1382 01:02:49,500 --> 01:02:51,690 ‫if you've taken our courses on Udemy, 1383 01:02:51,690 --> 01:02:54,180 ‫and on that page you can easily leave reviews 1384 01:02:54,180 --> 01:02:58,290 ‫for the classes and that's so important for us and helps 1385 01:02:58,290 --> 01:03:02,700 ‫the classes and helps us do more stuff like this 1386 01:03:02,700 --> 01:03:03,533 ‫and run the community. 1387 01:03:03,533 --> 01:03:06,240 ‫So if you can take a minute to do that right now, 1388 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,520 ‫if you haven't done so, ‫-: Right now. 1389 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,440 ‫-: that would be amazing. ‫(Will laughing) 1390 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:14,220 ‫So anyways, Will, Sam, anything? 1391 01:03:14,220 --> 01:03:16,860 ‫-: No. Thanks for being here. 1392 01:03:16,860 --> 01:03:18,930 ‫-: Yeah, thanks everyone for being here. 1393 01:03:18,930 --> 01:03:20,700 ‫It was good to catch up with you guys. 1394 01:03:20,700 --> 01:03:22,250 ‫-: Yeah. ‫-: Yeah. We'll be back. 1395 01:03:23,130 --> 01:03:25,140 ‫-: All right, see you all next time. 1396 01:03:25,140 --> 01:03:27,520 ‫Much love. Bye. 1397 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:28,353 ‫-: Bye.