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[reporter] On Capitol Hill today,
[记者]今天在国会山，
a bipartisan call for more government transparency on UFOs,
两党共同呼吁增加 政府在不明飞行物问题上保持透明度
or as the military calls them, Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, UAPs.
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The objects have been detected essentially where all operations,
已检测到这些物体 基本上所有操作都在这里进行，
Navy operations are being conducted across the world.
海军行动正在进行中 在全球范围内进行。
The technology that we faced was far superior
该技术 我们面对的敌人远比我们想象的要强大得多。
than anything we have currently or we're gonna have in the next 20 years.
比我们目前拥有的任何东西都多。 或者说，我们将在未来20年内拥有它。
Unidentified aerial phenomena are a potential national security threat
不明空中现象 构成潜在的国家安全威胁
and they need to be treated that way.
他们需要受到那样的对待。
[man] United States government has gathered a great deal of information
[人]美国政府
about UAPs over many decades,
关于不明空中现象（UAP）数十年的研究，
but has refused to share it with the American people.
但他拒绝分享。 与美国人民站在一起。
That is wrong, and additionally, it breeds mistrust.
这是错误的，此外， 这会滋生不信任。
I spent 11 years in the US Navy as a fighter pilot.
我曾在美国海军服役11年。 作为一名战斗机飞行员。
For 18 years, I flew fighters for the US Navy.
18年来， 我曾在美国海军驾驶战斗机。
I spent 20 years working in the US intelligence community.
我花了20年时间工作 在美国情报界。
I served as the fourth Director of National Intelligence.
我担任第四任 国家情报总监。
I spent 25 years as a senior official with the CIA.
我花了25年 担任中央情报局高级官员。
I retired from the Navy as a one-star admiral after 32 years of service.
我从海军退役时军衔是准将。 服役32年后晋升为海军上将。
I worked on highly classified UAP programs for the government as a senior scientist.
我曾参与高度机密的UAP项目。 担任政府高级科学家。
I spent 32 years in and out of government in national security.
我断断续续地待了32年。 政府在国家安全中的作用。
I've worked 28 years as an astrophysicist on highly classified UAP programs
我从事天体物理学工作已有28年。 关于高度机密的UAP项目
for the United States government and for the defense industry.
对于美国政府 以及国防工业。
I'm a professor in the department of pathology
我是一名教授 病理科
at Stanford University School of Medicine.
在斯坦福大学医学院。
And for the last ten years or so,
在过去的十年左右时间里，
I've been working with the Department of Defense
我一直在工作 与国防部合作
and people in the CIA on the UAP topic.
以及中央情报局关于不明空中现象（UAP）的人员。
I've come to the conclusion that we are not only not alone in the universe,
我得出的结论是： 我们不仅在宇宙中并不孤单，
but we have been discovered
但我们被发现了
by an intelligence from some other part of the universe.
通过智能 来自宇宙的某个其他地方。
There's evidence we are not alone.
有证据表明我们并不孤单。
Humanity is not the only intelligent species in the universe.
人类并非唯一 宇宙中存在的智慧物种。
We're not alone in the universe.
我们并非宇宙中唯一的生命。
I wouldn't be so arrogant to suggest
我不敢如此狂妄地提出这样的建议。
there are no other forms of life out there.
没有其他 世间存在着各种各样的生命形式。
Humanity is not the only intelligence in the universe.
人类并非唯一的智慧体。 在宇宙中。
UAPs are real. They're here and they're not human.
UAP（不明空中现象）是真实存在的。 它们就在这里，但它们不是人类。
There are other intelligences that have highly advanced exotic craft
还有其他智能体 拥有高度先进的异域飞行器
interacting with the human population.
与人类群体互动。
They are here. This is real. It's happening. It's happening now.
他们就在这里。这是真的。 它正在发生。它现在正在发生。
Non-human intelligence exists.
非人类智能是存在的。
It's been interacting with humanity
它一直在与人类互动。
and it's been doing so on this planet for a long time.
而且它一直都在这样做。 在这个星球上生活了很久。
We are not the only intelligent life form in the universe.
我们并非唯一聪明的种族。 宇宙中的生命形式。
There's something here on the planet with us that is intelligent
这颗星球上存在着某种东西 对我们来说，这很聪明
and more intelligent than us.
而且比我们更聪明。
This is the biggest discovery in human history.
这是最重大的发现 在人类历史上。
My name is Lue Elizondo. In 2009, my life changed forever.
我的名字是 Lue Elizondo。
That's when I was recruited into a highly sensitive government program
就在那时，我被招募了 一项高度敏感的政府计划
that investigated Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon, UAP,
调查 不明空中现象，UAP
also commonly known as UFOs.
也常被称为不明飞行物。
My work for the US government goes back
我为美国政府工作的历史可以追溯到很久以前。
almost 30 years to when I joined the US Army.
近30年
From there, I had the good fortune
从那以后，我很幸运。
of being recruited into various programs within military intelligence.
被招募到各种项目中
During my career, I served my country
在我的职业生涯中，我为我的国家服务。
around the world, managing and directing missions,
在全球范围内，
including counter-narcotics, counter-espionage,
包括禁毒药物
counter-terrorism and counter-insurgency.
反恐和反叛乱。
And it was later in my career that I actually began running
那是在我职业生涯后期。 我开始跑步了
special access programs for the US government,
特殊准入计划 对于美国政府而言，
and in some cases reported directly to the White House
在某些情况下，已有报道。
and the National Security Council.
以及国家安全委员会。
My name is Jay Stratton,
我的名字是杰伊·斯特拉顿，
and for over 16 years on behalf of the US government,
并且超过16年 代表美国政府，
I worked as a senior intelligence official on the UAP topic.
我曾担任高级情报官员 关于不明空中现象（UAP）的话题。
I joined the Army at the age of 17 and left for a career
我17岁参军。
in military intelligence with eight combat deployments,
在军事情报领域
including Iraq and Afghanistan.
包括伊拉克和阿富汗。
After the Army, I joined Naval Intelligence,
退伍后，
and then I transitioned to the Defense Intelligence Agency,
然后我完成了转型。
where I was the chief of air and space warfare
我当时是主管 空天战争
inside of the Defense Warning office.
在国防预警办公室内部。
It was at the DIA that my colleagues and I started getting reports
正是在国防情报局，我的同事们 我开始收到报告。
of what are now called UAP.
也就是现在所说的UAP。
We went all over the government, pentagon, every intelligence agency,
我们走遍了政府各部门，
anywhere we could think to try to find the UAP program, assuming there was one.
我们想尽一切办法去寻找 UAP项目，假设真的存在的话。
As far as we could tell,
据我们所知，
no one in the United States government had a UAP program,
美国政府中没有人 曾有一个UAP项目，
so my colleagues and I began a new program,
所以我和我的同事们 启动了一项新计划，
which ultimately became AATIP.
最终发展成为AATIP。
The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, AATIP.
先进航空航天 威胁识别计划，AATIP。
[Jay] The funding for this effort was sponsored by
[杰伊]资金
then Senate majority leader Senator Harry Reid.
时任参议院多数党领袖
And together myself, Jay Stratton and our team
还有我自己， 杰伊·斯特拉顿和我们的团队
for nearly a decade investigated UAP incidents around the world.
近十年来一直在调查 世界各地的不明空中现象事件。
Based on hard evidence and data,
基于确凿的证据和数据，
we learned that UAPs present serious national security concerns
我们了解到，UAP 构成严重的国家安全问题
and a potential existential threat.
以及潜在的生存威胁。
Simply put, transmedium crafts,
简而言之，跨媒介工艺，
vehicles that have the capability to operate in space, air,
具备这种能力的车辆
and water, and seemingly defy all that humanity knows about physics
还有水，而且似乎违背了
have been operating with complete impunity around the world since at least the 1940s.
一直逍遥法外
At AATIP, we had access to some of the most sensitive videos
在AATIP，我们拥有访问权限 一些最敏感的视频
in the Department of Defense inventory.
已列入国防部库存。
If you could be in my shoes and see what I've seen, and folks like Jay Stratton,
如果你能设身处地地看看会发生什么…… 我见过，还有像杰伊·斯特拉顿这样的人，
there would be zero shadow of a doubt that these things are real
这一点毋庸置疑。 这些事情都是真实的。
and they are not made by humans.
而且它们并非人类制造的。
The things that I've seen, the clearest videos,
我所看到的那些事， 最清晰的视频
the best evidence that we have
我们所掌握的最佳证据
that these are non-human intelligence remain classified.
这些是非人类智能 仍属机密。
The classified data that we had access to
我们能够获取的机密数据
when we joined the program was indisputable.
当我们加入该计划时 这是无可争议的。
There's 80 years of this data that the public isn't even aware of.
这些数据已有80年的历史。 公众甚至都不知道的事情。
I have seen with my own eyes non-human craft and non-human beings.
我亲眼所见 非人类的飞行器和非人类生物。
For 23 years and ten months,
23年零10个月，
I was in the United States Air Force as an A-10 pilot.
我曾在美国空军服役 作为一名A-10飞行员。
And while I was at NORAD,
当我在北美防空司令部工作时，
I witnessed an event that I will remember forever.
我目睹了一件事
There was a unknown object we were tracking on radars.
有一个不明物体
And the commander says, "I want that target."
指挥官说： “我想要那个目标。”
That means intercept it.
这意味着要拦截它。
Fighters all the way down the eastern seaboard were scrambled,
一路都是战士
and none of the fighters were successful in intercepting or running it down.
所有参战者均告失败。 拦截或追捕它。
We were unable to maintain air sovereignty over North America.
我们无法维持 北美上空的领空主权。
On November 14th, 2004, we were onboard the USS Nimitz,
2004年11月14日， 我们当时在尼米兹号航空母舰上。
which is a nuclear aircraft carrier.
这是一艘核动力航空母舰。
I was the most senior person in the squadron flying.
我是资历最深的人
I had launched off Nimitz to do
我乘坐尼米兹号起飞去做……
an air defense exercise off the coast of San Diego, California.
防空演习
And I ended up chasing a UAP known as the Tic Tac UAP.
结果我却去追逐一个不明空中现象（UAP）。 被称为 Tic Tac UAP。
It was about 40 feet long and just sitting there in space.
它大约有40英尺长
You can see it start to accelerate. And as it gets in front of us, it's gone.
你可以看到它开始加速。 而当它来到我们面前时，却又消失了。
This thing was doing 32,000 miles an hour,
这东西当时的时速是32000英里，
so obviously that technology is not the United States.
很明显，这项技术 不是美国。
[Alex Dietrich] As we were watching this Tic Tac object
[亚历克斯·迪特里希]正如我们当时
maneuver in this bizarre way,
以这种奇特的方式进行操作
it was obvious that it wasn't conventional.
显而易见
This was defying those laws of physics,
这违背了物理定律，
laws of gravity that as pilots we live and die by.
万有引力定律 这是飞行员赖以生存和牺牲的准则。
We literally had these things stalking Navy vessels on deployment.
我们确实拥有过这些东西。 跟踪部署中的海军舰艇。
The frequency in which UAP were being reported to us was increasing.
UAP 的发生频率 向我们举报的案件数量正在增加。
They were ubiquitous. We were seeing them nearly daily.
它们无处不在。 我们几乎每天都能看到他们。
[man] My gosh, there's a whole fleet of 'em. Look on the SA!
我的天哪，这里有一整个
And then we actually almost had a midair with one of these objects.
然后我们实际上几乎 曾与其中一个物体在半空中发生碰撞。
This now became a safety issue.
这现在变成了一个安全问题。
Two aircraft from my squadron were flying in close proximity to each other
我所在中队的两架飞机是 彼此近距离飞行
in section formation, so about 150 feet apart or so.
在剖面形成中， 所以大概相距150英尺左右。
One of these objects went right in between those two aircraft,
其中一个物体向右移动了。
right past the lead aircraft.
正好越过领头飞机。
The lead aircraft was visually able to see the object,
领头飞机 能够用肉眼看到该物体，
and he simply described it as a dark gray or a black cube inside of a clear sphere.
他只是简单地将其描述为深灰色。 或者一个透明球体内的黑色立方体。
To be clear,
说清楚点，
non-human intelligence has been actively conducting
非人类智能 一直在积极开展
ISR, Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance
ISR（情报监视侦察）、情报 监视与侦察
of some of our most sensitive US military facilities and nuclear sites.
我们一些最敏感的人 美国军事设施和核设施。
They have both deactivated and activated nuclear weapons
它们都已停用。 并已启动核武器
with both the United States and Russia.
与美国和俄罗斯都有联系。
The nuclear weapons that were activated in Russia were pointed at us,
那些核武器 在俄罗斯被激活的警报都指向了我们。
and from that perspective, the stakes really could not be any higher.
从这个角度来看， 事关重大，不能再高了。
This is an emerging and disruptive threat for the US
这是一种新兴现象 对美国构成破坏性威胁
and truly a national security concern.
这的确是一个国家安全问题。
By the way, this isn't just happening here in the US.
顺便说一句，这不仅仅是 这件事就发生在美国。
It's happening all over the world and occurring with greater frequency.
这种情况在世界各地都在发生。 而且发生的频率越来越高。
[Christopher Mellon] When I met Lue Elizondo in the Pentagon,
[克里斯托弗·梅隆] 我在五角大楼见到卢·埃利桑多时，
he made me aware not only that this phenomenon was real,
他让我意识到，不仅如此
but it was an ongoing persistent phenomenon.
但这却是一个持续的过程。
The Secretary of Defense didn't know, the Congress didn't know,
国防部长并不知情。 国会对此并不知情。
senior policymakers didn't know,
高级政策制定者并不知情，
and nobody was doing anything about it other than Lue
没有人采取任何行动。 除了卢之外，关于这件事还有什么要说的吗？
and a handful of colleagues.
还有几位同事。
I was shocked and I was stunned,
我当时震惊极了，目瞪口呆。
and immediately was concerned about
并立即对此感到担忧
intelligence failures that have occurred in the past
情报失误 过去发生的那些事
and the disasters that have ensued,
以及随之而来的灾难，
and determined immediately to do whatever I could to help get Lue
并立即确定
to the Secretary of Defense to move that information forward.
致国防部长
Each time Jay and I and others tried to raise the alarm bells
每次杰伊、我和其他人尝试 拉响警报
and bring this issue up to the appropriate level,
并提出这个问题 达到适当水平，
we were met with fierce resistance.
我们遭到了顽强抵抗。
The stigma alone and the taboo of the topic,
仅仅是这种污名而已。 以及这个话题的禁忌性，
the historical association of "UFOs" was something that
“不明飞行物”的历史渊源 这是某件事
for most people in leadership positions was too big of a pill to swallow.
对于大多数身居领导职位的人来说 这件事太让人难以接受了。
In fact, the stigma was so strong that people either believed, A,
事实上，这种污名化非常严重。 人们要么相信，A，
the topic wasn't real, or B,
这个话题不是真的，或者 B，
the stigma was going to somehow taint or tarnish their career,
这种污名总会以某种方式消失。 玷污或损害他们的职业生涯，
so they didn't want to touch it.
所以他们不想碰它。
We couldn't get the leadership in the Pentagon
我们没能获得领导权。 在五角大楼
to look at the actual scientific data
查看实际的科学数据
that showed that there is a strong national security threat.
这表明存在 对国家安全构成严重威胁。
They were more worried about the impact on their reputation
他们更担心的是 对他们声誉的影响
than they were about the safety of the nation.
比他们当时所处的时代要早得多 国家安全。
[Jay] On top of that,
[杰伊]除此之外，
we were shocked to find we were getting pushback from people in the Pentagon
我们震惊地发现我们得到了
based on their religious beliefs.
基于他们的宗教信仰。
There really were religious fundamentalist extremists with in the Pentagon
确实存在宗教原教旨主义者 五角大楼内部的极端分子
that had a severe adversity to this topic.
对此话题存在严重的抵触情绪。
These are national security experts,
这些都是国家安全专家，
senior members of the national intelligence community
国家高级成员 情报界
who are putting their religion above national security.
那些把宗教信仰挂在嘴边的人 高于国家安全。
A senior DOD official actually stopped me in the hallways in the Pentagon
一位国防部高级官员拦住了我。 在五角大楼的走廊里
and told me that we were doing the devil's work.
然后告诉我 我们当时是在做魔鬼的工作。
I had to deal with people who were senior to me who were telling me
我不得不和那些人打交道 比我资历深的人告诉我
in their world that these are demons, and we are poking demons
在他们的世界里，这些都是恶魔。 我们这是在挑衅恶魔
and messing in Satan's world and all these other things.
以及在撒旦的世界里胡闹 以及其他所有事情。
I was like, "I can't believe this is coming out of your mouth."
我当时想，“我简直不敢相信 这话是从你嘴里说出来的。
I'm briefing about an advanced aerospace vehicle that has been detected
我正在介绍一个高级技术。 已探测到的航空航天飞行器
on multiple sensors that's absolutely there,
在多个传感器上
and you're telling me that you think these are demons
你是这么说的 你认为这些是恶魔吗？
and we shouldn't look at them and study them.
我们不应该 观察它们，研究它们。
My mind was blown.
我简直震惊了。
[Jay] While we were trying to overcome all of these hurdles,
[杰伊]当我们尝试的时候
we discovered another deeply hidden and much larger UAP program.
我们又发现了一个深藏不露的秘密。
This program was so sensitive
这个项目非常敏感。
that it was withheld from the Secretary of Defense, Congress,
它被隐瞒了 国防部长、国会、
and even the President of the United States.
甚至 美国总统。
This program is referred to as "The Legacy Program."
这个项目被称为 “传承计划”。
This program had been capturing,
这个项目一直在记录，
retrieving and reverse engineering UAPs since at least 1947.
检索和逆向工程UAP 至少从1947年起。
On numerous occasions,
在很多情况下，
these retrievals included the bodies of non-humans,
这些检索结果包括 非人类的身体，
some sort of intelligence, intelligent being that is not human.
某种智能， 非人类的智能生物。
When Jay and I began knocking on doors
当我和杰伊开始敲门时
and trying to get access into the Legacy Program,
并尝试获取访问权限 加入传承计划，
there was this almost like an immune response
几乎 就像免疫反应一样
by the Legacy Program, and antibodies came out of everywhere
通过传承计划， 抗体从四面八方涌现出来。
to try to shut us down.
试图让我们闭嘴。
We began communicating with scientists involved in the Legacy Program,
我们开始与科学家交流 参与传承计划，
but their leaders when they learned of this, shut it down aggressively.
但当他们的领导人得知 对于这种情况，必须坚决制止。
Not only were we met with fierce resistance and stonewalling,
我们不仅遇到了 激烈的抵抗和阻挠
we actually had people angry at us that we're even asking the question itself,
事实上，确实有人因此对我们感到生气。 我们甚至在提出这个问题。
as in, you know, what right do we have to inquire about the Legacy Program,
也就是说，你知道，我们有什么权利？ 如需了解传承计划，
despite the fact we were running AATIP.
尽管我们当时正在运行 AATIP。
Put yourself in my shoes.
设身处地想想。
I'm conducting investigations of ongoing UAP activity
我正在进行调查 持续的UAP活动
and there's this Legacy Program that has at least 80 years of information
还有这个传承计划 至少拥有80年的信息
that could help us better understand this problem
那可能会对我们有所帮助。 更好地理解这个问题
and protect national security, and they refuse to give it to us.
并维护国家安全 他们拒绝给我们。
When it became clear that we couldn't work through the system,
当情况变得明朗时 我们无法通过这个系统解决问题。
I knew from experience having worked with the Senate Armed Services Committee,
我凭借工作经验知道这一点。 与参议院军事委员会
what it takes to move this oil tanker.
移动这艘油轮需要哪些条件？
Think about this immense, immense ship that has massive inertia,
想想这巨大的…… 一艘拥有巨大惯性的巨型船舶，
and you're trying to get it to change course.
你正在尝试 让它改变航向。
When it comes to the Department of Defense,
当…… 致国防部
only Congress has the wherewithal to do that.
只有国会 有能力做到这一点。
And the way to get Congress's attention is first and foremost through the press.
以及如何引起国会的注意 首先是通过媒体。
I knew we had to get the press engaged to help get the Hill engaged,
我知道我们必须让媒体参与进来。 为了帮助国会山参与进来，
to then get back to changing the Defense Department
然后继续改变 国防部
to study this problem to figure out is there a threat?
研究这个问题 弄清楚是否存在威胁？
Where are these things coming from and how do they work?
这些东西是从哪里来的？ 它们是如何运作的？
[Jay] As government employees, we're not allowed to talk to the media,
[杰伊] 作为政府雇员， 我们不允许接受媒体采访。
so Lue and I strategized on how to overcome this hurdle.
于是，我和卢制定了策略。
There were really only two choices.
其实只有两种选择。
The first choice was make peace with silence
第一个选择是 与寂静和平相处
and sit on what is humanity's greatest secret,
然后坐在 人类最大的秘密是什么？
all the while keeping Americans in the dark.
同时保持
Or two, I could resign my position in protest
或者，我可以辞职。
and fulfill my obligations to the American people
并履行我的义务
by telling the truth about what I know about UAP.
通过说出真相 关于我对不明空中现象的了解。
There was this difficult moment where Lue had to decide,
那是一个艰难的时刻。 卢必须做出决定，
"Do I throw in the towel? Do we give up on this?"
“我该认输吗？” 我们放弃吗？
"Do we ignore this?"
“我们要对此视而不见吗？”
Or does he fall on his sword?
还是他会自刎？
I couldn't, nor would I ever reveal classified information,
我不能，也永远不会。 泄露机密信息
but I knew that if I could say just enough at the unclassified level
但我知道，如果我能说 仅够达到非机密级别
to make the media aware and our government officials aware
让媒体了解 我们的政府官员也意识到了这一点。
of the reality of the UAP topic,
关于不明空中现象（UAP）的真实情况，
then Jay hopefully would be able to use that momentum to go ahead and achieve
那么杰伊或许就能使用
the goals that we set out to achieve inside the government.
我们设定的目标
[Mellon] And we had a number of difficult conversations
[梅隆]我们当时有
because Lue is giving up a very promising career.
因为卢要放弃了。
He loved what he was doing. He was very good at what he was doing.
他热爱自己所做的事。
It's such a profound life decision for Lue to make for himself and his family.
对卢来说，这是一个意义深远的重大人生决定。 为了他自己和家人的生计。
During one of my routine hellish commutes back home,
在我的一次例行活动中 回家路上简直是噩梦般的通勤，
as I was stuck in traffic, looking in front of me and behind me
当我被堵在路上时，
and seeing thousands of cars, I had this profound sense of isolation,
看到成千上万辆汽车， 我当时感到无比孤独，
a feeling I had never felt before in my life,
我有一种感觉 我这辈子从未有过这种感觉。
a feeling that I was completely alone.
一种彻底孤独的感觉。
I might as well have been living on the dark side of the moon.
我感觉自己就像一直生活在…… 在月球背面。
None of these people around me,
我周围的这些人，没有一个是
in fact, no one anywhere had any idea
事实上，当时任何地方都没有人知道这件事。
of what was actually going on around them.
实际上​
Not a clue.
一点头绪都没有。
I thought to myself, these individuals deserve to know the truth,
我心想，这些人
the mere fact that we're not alone in the universe.
仅仅是我们存在这一事实 在宇宙中，你并不孤单。
How can any one organization, institution, religion, or government
任何一个组织如何才能做到这一点？ 机构、宗教或政府
control that or censor that or gatekeep that?
控制 或者审查或限制这类内容？
No one has the right to keep fundamental truths
任何人都没有权利 坚守基本真理
away from the American people and humanity.
远离美国人民 以及全人类。
[reporter] CNN has learned the Pentagon had a secretive program to research UFOs.
[记者] CNN获悉五角大楼
The existence of a secret government program to investigate UFO sightings.
秘密政府的存在 一项调查不明飞行物目击事件的计划。
A recent report by the New York Times unveiled the existence of a real life
《纽约时报》最近的一份报告 揭示了真实生活的存在
X-Files department,
X档案部门
their secret government program to investigate mysterious flying objects.
他们的秘密政府计划
This seems potentially like one of the biggest stories of my lifetime.
这似乎有可能 这是我一生中最重大的事件之一。
These aircraft, we'll call 'em aircraft,
这些飞机，我们就称它们为飞机吧，
are displaying characteristics that are not currently
正在展现特征 目前尚未
within the US inventory nor in any foreign inventory.
在美国库存中 也不在任何国外库存中。
[man] Look at that thing, dude. My gosh.
[男]看看那东西，老兄。我的天哪。
This is a very serious national security issue.
这是非常严重的问题。 国家安全问题。
Something is in our skies. It has been there for quite some time.
我们的天空中似乎有什么东西。 它在那里已经有一段时间了。
[man] There's a whole fleet of 'em.
[man]有一整队呢。
You have objects that are doing things,
你有一些正在执行某些操作的对象，
maneuvering in ways without any obvious sign of propulsion.
以各种方式操纵 没有明显的推进迹象。
My submission is that what we are looking at is truly,
我的论点是 我们所看到的，的确是……
by definition, exotic technologies, beyond next generation technologies.
根据定义，异域技术
And the bureaucracy and the Department of Defense really limited our ability
以及官僚机构和部门 国防部的政策确实限制了我们的能力
to keep leadership informed of what we were seeing.
让领导层了解情况 我们所看到的。
As soon as the media started paying attention,
媒体一出现 开始注意了，
Congress started paying attention,
国会开始关注此事，
and I started getting calls from the Hill for briefings.
然后我开始接到电话 从国会山听取简报。
Senators received a classified briefing about UFOs at the Pentagon.
参议员们收到了一份机密简报 关于五角大楼的UFO事件。
[reporter] Senator Mark Warner,
[记者]参议员马克·沃纳，
the vice chair of the Intelligence Committee said,
副主席
"Look, I think it's important that the military is taking this more seriously now
“你看，我认为重要的是……” 军方现在更加重视此事了。
than they did in the past."
比他们过去做得更好。”
[Mellon] Senator Rubio and Warner, to their great credit,
[梅隆]参议员卢比奥和华纳，
put national security above their own personal political careers
将国家安全置于首位
and took the risk of engaging publicly on this issue.
并承担了参与的风险
When they began to engage, the Defense Department had to admit
当他们开始交战时， 国防部不得不承认
to the world that this was real and it was happening,
对世界而言，这是真的 事情正在发生。
and that immediately took the entire credibility of the issue up a huge notch.
而这立刻占据了整个 该问题的可信度大幅提升。
The US Navy has finally acknowledged that videos appearing to show UFOs flying
美国海军终于承认了 那些似乎显示不明飞行物飞行的视频
through the air are real.
空气中的物体是真实的。
[reporter] Commander David Fravor describing it like a 40 foot long Tic Tac.
记者大卫·弗拉沃指挥官
The ability to hover over the water and then start a vertical climb
悬浮在水面上的能力 然后开始垂直攀升
from basically zero up towards about 12,000 feet
从基本零开始 高达约 12,000 英尺
and then accelerate in less than two seconds
然后加速 不到两秒
and disappear is something I had never seen in my life.
消失是某种东西 我这辈子都没见过。
We've had repeated instances of something operating in the airspace
我们已经多次遇到这种情况。 在空域作业
over restricted nuclear facilities,
8 受限核设施
and it's not ours and we don't know whose it is.
而且它不是我们的 我们不知道是谁的。
That alone, just that statement alone,
仅此一点，仅此一句话，
deserves inquiry, deserves attention, deserves focus.
值得调查， 值得关注，值得重视。
If you have objects in the sky that you cannot identify,
如果您有对象 在你无法辨认的天空中，
that's a problem because it could be China, it could be Russia,
那是个问题，因为 可能是中国，也可能是俄罗斯。
it could be any adversary.
它可以是任何对手。
Well, any unexplained phenomenon could pose a national security threat.
嗯，任何无法解释的现象 可能构成国家安全威胁。
That's the way you have to treat those things.
就是这样 你必须处理这些问题。
There's something violating our airspace.
有东西侵犯了我们的领空。
There's something fouling arranges
有什么东西在干扰安排
that even the people we've tasked in the executive branch to understand this
即使是我们委派的人 行政部门需要理解这一点
cannot provide an explanation,
无法提供解释。
so I would say in addition to the national security implications,
所以，我还要补充一点。 对国家安全的影响，
this has implications for basic trust and confidence in the American government.
这会对基本信任产生影响。 以及对美国政府的信心。
We don't know the origin of the phenomenon,
我们不知道 该现象的起源，
and we're gonna try to get to the bottom of it
我们会尝试 查明真相
because for national defense purposes,
因为出于国防目的，
some of these have been in areas that we train.
其中一些已经 在我们训练的领域。
These have been in areas where we've got some of our best equipment,
这些地区位于 我们带来了一些最好的设备，
and yet our best equipment has not been able to tag these things.
然而，我们最好的设备 一直无法给这些内容添加标签。
We've not been able to go in and catch them.
我们一直无法 进去抓住他们。
No matter what they are, they're invading our airspace
无论它们是什么， 他们正在入侵我们的领空
and we don't know exactly why they're doing it,
我们并不确切知道。 他们为什么要这样做？
what their intent is and what their capabilities are.
他们的意图是什么？ 以及他们的能力。
In addition to the national security concerns,
此外 出于国家安全考虑，
this violation of all nations' sovereign airspace
这种违规行为 所有国家主权领空
presents a safety of flight concern for all military and civilian aviation.
存在飞行安全隐患 适用于所有军用和民用航空。
And the even scarier thing is that the Federal Aviation Administration
更可怕的是……
stopped using radar to track our air travel.
停止使用雷达 追踪我们的航空旅行。
They only track aircraft,
他们只追踪飞机。
predominantly commercial and civilian, that are squawking,
主要用于商业和民用领域， 那些发出刺耳叫声的，
so they're actually putting a signal into the system saying,
所以他们实际上是在投入 向系统发送一个信号，内容是：
"Here's where I am."
“我在这里。”
The only way they know the UAP are there
他们唯一知道不明空中现象存在的方法就是
is if the pilot sees something and says something.
如果飞行员看到了什么
The fact that the FAA is not tracking UAP
美国联邦航空管理局没有追踪不明空中现象这一事实
is putting American lives at risk every day.
危及美国人的生命
I'm Brett Feddersen.
我是布雷特·费德森。
I served as the director of aviation security on the National Security Council
我曾担任航空主管 国家安全委员会的安全问题
and as the acting director for the Federal Aviation Administration's
并担任代理主任 美国联邦航空管理局
National Security Programs Office.
国家安全项目办公室。
I can say through my experience
根据我的经验，我可以这么说。
that we are absolutely not alone in this universe.
我们绝对 在这个宇宙中，你并不孤单。
The biggest thing that concerns me with UAPs is the national security concern.
我最担心的是 不明空中现象是国家安全问题。
It's the unknown.
未知的事物总是令人恐惧。
It's the fact that this technology does stuff that we can't do.
事实是，这项技术 做我们做不到的事情。
And if we can't figure out what it is or what it wants,
如果我们无法弄清楚 它是什么，或者它想要什么，
uh, or what it's being used for,
呃，或者说，它的用途是什么。
that keeps me up at night and the idea that we're behind the power curve.
这让我夜不能寐，还有这个想法 我们在电力发展方面落后了。
We want to be able to maintain the cutting edge technology and the advantage
我们希望能够维持 尖端技术及其优势
here in the United States so that we can sleep comfortably at night
在美国这里 这样我们晚上才能睡得安稳。
and feel the safety of what the American government has provided.
并感受到安全感 美国政府已提供。
There's sort of, I think, four hypotheses out there,
我觉得，某种程度上来说， 目前有四种假设，
one of which is that this is foreign adversary technology
其中之一是，这是 外国敌对技术
that we simply don't understand or weren't aware of,
我们根本不理解 或者他们并不知情，
and that would amount to probably the biggest intelligence failure
那可能相当于 最大的情报失误
in modern American history.
在现代美国历史上。
The second of which is that this is a robust counter-intelligence program
第二点是，这是 一项强有力的反间谍计划
to cover up for a US government effort that has fallen,
掩盖美国 政府的努力已经失败，
kind of, away from congressional oversight.
有点儿，远离 免受国会监督。
A third hypothesis is obviously that this is, uh, interdimensional
第三个假设显然是 这是，呃，跨维度的。
or extra-terrestrial.
或者外星人。
The fourth could be a combination of the previous three.
第四个可能是 前三者的结合。
Some of the biggest strategic blunders in human history,
一些最重要的战略 人类历史上的错误，
the foundation of those blunders were a lack of imagination.
这些错误的根源 缺乏想象力。
The belief that an adversary or whoever could not do something
认为对手 或者任何无法做某事的人
because it had never been done before.
因为以前从来没有人这样做过。
The US thought it was safe for those ships in Pearl Harbor
美国方面认为这是安全的。 珍珠港的那些船只
because we didn't think the Japanese could get there,
因为我们当时没想过 日本人或许能到达那里。
much less have torpedoes that could navigate such a narrow straight
拥有鱼雷的就少得多了。 能够通过如此狭窄的直道
and hit these ships until they did.
并不断攻击这些船只，直到它们倒下为止。
We never thought in our wildest dreams that terrorists would strike us
我们做梦也没想到 恐怖分子会袭击我们
in the homeland by training for a year to become pilots
在祖国通过训练 一年时间成为飞行员
and then hijacking commercial aircraft
然后劫持商用飞机
and crashing them into buildings, and they did.
并将它们撞向建筑物，
The thing that keeps me up at night, something in the human psyche that says,
让我夜不能寐的那件事 人类心理中某种东西在说：
I don't have time or energy to sort of prepare for the unforeseen
我既没时间也没精力 为应对不可预见的情况做好准备
or what I've never seen done before,
或者说，是我以前从未见过的做法。
and, um, you know, that leads to strategic surprise
嗯，你知道， 这会导致战略上的出其不意
and sometimes strategic surprises
有时还会带来战略上的惊喜
change the course of human history.
改变人类历史的进程。
[Jay] There was one classified briefing
[杰伊]有
that I gave to members of the House and Senate,
我给成员们的
where I took military pilots to tell them the story of their encounters with UAP.
我带军方飞行员去告诉他们 他们与不明空中现象（UAP）遭遇的故事。
Those stories left them so rattled that they had trouble sleeping that night.
那些故事让他们心神不宁。 他们当晚都没能入睡。
[Lue] The United States' most trusted military servicemen and women
[卢]美国最
and irrefutable data from our intelligence collection systems
以及来自我们公司的无可辩驳的数据
have been observing UAP for decades.
几十年来，我们一直在观察不明空中现象。
Everything observed can be categorized
所有观察到的事物都可以进行分类。
by five distinct performance characteristics.
由五个不同的 性能特点。
At AATIP, we call these The Observables.
在 AATIP，我们称这些为“可观测变量”。
The first observable is hypersonic velocity.
第一个可观测的
Our current fastest aircraft can go roughly 4,600 miles per hour.
我们目前最快的飞机
However, the UAP we are observing are traveling at 40,000 miles per hour
然而，我们观测到的UAP 以每小时 40,000 英里的速度行驶
and sometimes faster.
并且有时更快。
The next observable is instantaneous acceleration,
下一个可观测变量是 瞬时加速度
the sudden change in velocity.
速度的突然变化。
At full speed, the SR-71, known as a Blackbird,
全速行驶时， SR-71，又称黑鸟
requires roughly half the state of Ohio to complete its turn.
大约需要俄亥俄州一半的面积
What we are seeing with UAP are vehicles that can make immediate right-angle turns,
我们看到的UAP是飞行器 可以立即进行直角转弯，
instantaneously accelerating and stopping on a dime
瞬间加速 急停
at speeds up to ten times faster than the SR-71.
速度最高可达原来的十倍 比SR-71还强。
If you're in a sustained flight, you can get up to seven-and-a-half Gs.
如果你处于持续飞行状态， 你最多可以获得 7.5 千美元。
It gets physically painful over time to be under that amount of gravity.
随着时间的推移，它会变得很痛苦 承受如此大的重力。
And that's just going from zero to 200 miles an hour
而这仅仅是开始 从零到每小时200英里
in about two-and-a-half seconds.
大约需要两秒半。
Now, think of going zero to thousands of miles an hour
现在，想想归零的情况。 可达数千英里/小时
in less than a second, what the force would be on your body.
不到一秒钟， 你的身体会受到怎样的力？
The human body can only take so much before the internal organs start
人体能承受的量是有限的 在内脏器官开始运作之前
to separate themselves from everything they're hooked to, which is usually bad.
为了与一切事物划清界限 他们对此上瘾了，这通常是件坏事。
Even if it was a drone, it would rip the drone, the unmanned vehicle apart.
即使它是无人机，它也会撕裂 无人机，也就是无人驾驶车辆，是分开来看的。
[Lue] The next observable is low observability.
[卢] 下一个可观测的 可观测性低。
All modern technology have a signature.
所有现代技术都具有独特的特征。
For example, most aircraft leave visible contrails as they fly.
例如，大多数飞机离开
We usually hear a sonic boom associated with the sound barrier being broken.
我们通常会听到与音爆相关的声音。 音障被突破。
UAP, however, leave almost no observable signatures.
然而，不明空中现象几乎完全消失。
Our airplanes actually throw out exhaust behind it and thrust behind it
我们的飞机实际上会抛掷 排气管在后方，推进器在后方。
to push it forward.
推动它向前发展。
Whatever these things are, they're not doing that.
无论这些东西是什么， 他们并没有这样做。
There is no exhaust, no particles coming off of 'em that we can see.
没有尾气，也没有颗粒物 我们看到，他们正在努力争取。
[Lue] The next observable is transmedium travel.
[卢] 下一个可观测的 是跨媒介旅行。
UAP have been observed operating in space, in air and underwater,
已观察到不明空中现象（UAP）活动 在太空、空中和水下
and they're moving seamlessly through each of these environments
它们衔接得天衣无缝。 通过这些环境中的每一种环境
without any normal signature and without compromising performance.
没有常规签名 而且性能丝毫不受影响。
We've observed a transmedium capability of these phenomenon
我们观察到了一种跨介质能力 这些现象
to move from space to the atmosphere to the ocean.
从太空 从大气层到海洋。
[Jay] In the Aguadilla, Puerto Rico case,
[Jay] 在波多黎各阿瓜迪亚案中，
a DHS helicopter caught the spherical object flying.
国土安全部直升机被捕获
It entered the water and exited the water,
它进入水中，然后离开水面。
so transmedium without losing any velocity.
所以跨媒介 速度丝毫未减。
It goes into the ocean and makes no splash or wake at 74 miles per hour.
它流入海洋并产生 时速 74 英里，无水花或尾流。
I calculated how much force you would require just to propel a basketball
我计算了一下你会受到多大的力。
under the water at 74 miles per hour,
水下速度为每小时74英里，
and you'd need a BE-7 rocket motor,
你需要 BE-7火箭发动机
or two Learjet engines that would churn the water up like crazy.
或者两台里尔喷气发动机 那会使水剧烈翻腾。
So this is a technology that's frictionless.
所以这是一项技术 那是无摩擦的。
[Lue] The next observable is anti-gravity.
[卢] 下一个 可观测现象是反重力。
UAP seemed to be defying the natural effects of earth's gravity
UAP似乎在反抗 地球引力的自然效应
without any obvious means of doing so.
没有明显的方法可以做到这一点。
No signs of propulsion or lift, meaning no wings,
没有推进或升力迹象， 意思是没有翅膀，
no control surfaces or ability to maneuver.
无控制面 或机动能力。
In 2014 to 2015,
2014年至2015年，
we were operating off the coast of Virginia Beach, off the eastern seaboard.
我们当时在海岸附近作业 弗吉尼亚海滩，位于东海岸附近。
It was during this time that we upgraded our radar from the APG-73
正是在这段时间里，我们进行了升级改造。
to the APG-79 radar,
至APG-79雷达，
and this allowed us to essentially see more objects we weren't expecting to see.
这使我们能够清楚地看到
And there's a particular case of one of these objects
这里有一个特殊案例。 这些物品之一
maintaining a complete stationary position
保持完全静止状态
inside of 120 knot winds, essentially inside of a hurricane.
在120节风速范围内， 基本上就是在飓风内部。
[man 1] They're all going against the wind.
[man 1]他们都是
The wind's 120 knots from the west.
西风风速为 120 节。
[man 2] Look at that thing! It's rotating.
[man 2] 看那东西！它在旋转。
It just seems like they're not affected by the environment the way we are.
他们似乎并未受到影响。 受环境影响，我们现在的处境就是这样。
They were tracking 'em from above 80,000 feet.
他们一直在追踪他们 从 80,000 英尺以上的高度。
So for those that don't know, above 80,000,
所以对于那些不了解的人来说， 超过80,000，
that's where you start getting into space.
从那时起，你就开始进入太空了。
So these things were coming down.
所以这些东西都陆续被拆下来了。
They would sit for three hours and they'd go back up,
他们会坐上三个小时 然后他们会再次上去，
which to my knowledge,
据我所知，
we don't have anything that has the capabilities
我们什么都没有 具备这种能力
as far as the energy required to come down,
就所需能量而言 下来，
hangout for three hours and go up.
闲逛三个小时然后上去。
The observed UAP capability exceeds that
观察到的UAP能力超过了
of even the most advanced, uh, human technologies
即使是最先进的， 呃，人类技术
that are developed in classified black programs.
已开发的 在机密黑名单中。
From our exposure, I mean, there's nothing we have that comes close.
我的意思是，就我们所了解的情况而言， 我们目前还没有任何东西能与之媲美。
[Lue] There's actually a six observable,
[读] 实际上有六个可观测的现象，
which is not a flight characteristic, that is biological effects.
这不是飞行特性， 这是生物效应。
[Garry Nolan] I got started working on this actually in this office.
[加里·诺兰]我开始了
There was a knock at the door,
有人敲门，
and two individuals who represented themselves
和两个人
as being with the CIA and an aerospace company came to me and asked for my help.
与中央情报局和航空航天业有关 公司来找我帮忙。
They had, uh, data of military personnel, intelligence officials
他们掌握了军事人员的数据， 情报官员
and others associated with the Department of Defense
以及其他相关人员 与国防部合作
who had direct interactions with UAP.
与不明空中现象有过直接接触的人。
And because of that direct interaction suffered some kind of medical harm.
正是由于这种直接互动 遭受了某种健康损害。
They wanted my help to look at the so-called inflammatory
他们想让我帮忙看看 在所谓的炎症
secondary events that might be measured in the blood,
次要事件 这可以通过血液检测来测量，
anything from the horrific burns that I've seen on some of the individuals
从可怕的烧伤到其他一切 我在一些个人身上看到了这一点
that leads to secondary problems with autoimmune diseases
这会导致次生问题 患有自身免疫性疾病
and sclerosis, et cetera,
以及硬化症等等
and then the internal scarring that I've seen on some individuals.
然后是内部瘢痕 我见过一些人有这种情况。
These people had scarring inside of their bodies and inside of their brains.
这些人体内有疤痕 他们的身体和大脑内部。
And you have to think about it.
你得好好想想。
You know, if you get too close to the back end of a jet engine,
你知道，如果你靠得太近 喷气式发动机的后端，
or for instance, if you get too close to the transformer system
例如，如果你靠得太近
that's just powering your neighborhood, there's energy coming out of those things.
那只是在为你的社区供电。 那些东西里散发着能量。
I mean, those are just human technologies.
我的意思是，那些都只是人类的技术而已。
Now imagine you've got something which is a more advanced technology,
现在想象一下你拥有了一些东西 这是一项更先进的技术。
which is generating some kind of field that allows these objects to move,
它正在生成某种场 这使得这些物体能够移动，
if you get too close to it, you are gonna get harmed.
如果你靠得太近， 你会受到伤害的。
I spent ten years as an intelligence officer for the Navy.
我花了十年时间从事情报工作
And before that, six years as Air Force intelligence.
在此之前， 在空军情报部门工作六年。
And I spent time on the UAP task force.
我曾参与不明空中现象（UAP）工作组的工作。
I'm one of the intelligence officials
我是情报官员之一。
that has experienced biological effects of encountering UAP.
已经历生物效应 遭遇不明空中现象。
Since my first encounter,
自从我第一次遇到他以来，
I've observed other craft, orbs,
我观察到其他工艺品、球体，
we'll call it exotic energy fields.
我们暂且称之为奇异能量场。
Unfortunately, um, those of us who have investigated it,
很遗憾，嗯， 我们这些调查过此事的人，
we become part of the investigation or investigated by our colleagues.
我们参与了调查。 或由我们的同事调查。
The population had about a 25% mortality rate
人口曾 死亡率约为25%。
within seven years of having an interaction.
七年内 进行互动。
Probably important that the public understands
可能很重要 公众理解
that this is more than just an aerial phenomenon.
这不仅仅是 只是一种空中现象。
When you have an anecdote that is accompanied by medical data,
当你有一个轶事 并附有医疗数据，
that's something that I can hand to another scientist, another doctor and say,
这是我可以提供的。 另一位科学家，另一位医生，说道：
"Here it is. You explain it."
“就是这样。你来解释一下。”
We can argue about what the conclusion is, but we can't argue that the data is real.
我们可以争论结论是什么， 但我们不能否认这些数据的真实性。
[Jay] The deputy director of Naval Intelligence,
副主任
who understood the national security concerns of UAP,
谁明白 UAP引发的国家安全问题
directed me to start quietly building out a whole government interagency effort
指示我开始悄悄地进行建设 一项全政府跨部门合作
that ultimately became the UAP task force.
最终发展成为不明空中现象（UAP）工作组。
This new program was much bigger than AATIP ever was.
这个新项目
Our mission was to detect, analyze and catalog UAPs
我们的任务是探测，
that pose a threat to US national security.
构成威胁
I had handpicked members from all 16 agencies of the intelligence community.
我从所有16个成员中精心挑选了成员。
The Secretary of Defense formally announced the UAP task force
国防部长正式
in August 2020, naming me the first director.
2020年8月，
Everyone in authority was paying attention to this topic.
所有掌权者都是 关注这个话题。
One distinctive moment for me was briefing then Secretary of Treasury, Steve Mnuchin.
对我来说，一个特别的时刻是简报会。 时任财政部长史蒂夫·姆努钦。
I got through my briefing. And at the end of the brief,
我完成了简报。
he sat back in his chair and he said, "You know, Jay,
他靠在椅背上。 他说：“你知道，杰伊，
you may wonder why I asked for this briefing."
你可能会想 我为什么要求听取这次简报？
He said, "What are the economic impacts of the president going to the microphone
他说：“经济影响是什么？” 总统走向麦克风
and telling the world we're not alone?"
告诉世界我们并不孤单？
I have to think about those kinds of impacts in order to prepare
我得好好想想这些事。 为应对影响做好准备
if the president were to make that move.
如果总统真的采取了那样的行动。
[Lue] Meanwhile, Chris Mellon and I
[读] 与此同时，克里斯·梅隆和我
were working with the Senate behind the scenes
我们正在与参议院合作。
to craft UAP legislation that was then taken by Marco Rubio
制定不明空中现象立法
and pushed into the coronavirus relief bill.
并推
When President Trump signed this legislation into law,
特朗普总统签署
it then forced the Pentagon and the UAP task force to provide
然后它迫使五角大楼 以及UAP工作组提供
written reports to Congress, both classified and unclassified.
向国会提交书面报告， 包括机密和非机密。
The long-awaited Pentagon report on UFOs has finally been released.
期待已久的五角大楼报告 关于不明飞行物的那本书终于出版了。
The Director of National Intelligence just a few days ago
国家情报总监 就在几天前
released a new report on 144 sightings.
发布了一份关于144起目击事件的新报告。
When we talk about sightings, we're talking about objects
当我们谈论目击事件时， 我们谈论的是物体
that have been seen by Navy or Air Force pilots
已经看到的 由海军或空军飞行员
or have been picked up by satellite imagery.
或者已被捡到 通过卫星图像。
Frankly, there are a lot more sightings than have been made public.
坦白说，目击事件要多得多。
[reporter] The report clarifies that most incidents
记者报道
over the past two decades
在过去的二十年里
are not from the US military or other advanced US government technology.
并非来自美国军方或其他
So the issue now is why are they here, where are they coming from
所以现在的问题是，他们为什么会在这里？ 他们来自哪里？
and what is the technology behind these devices that we're observing?
这项技术是什么？ 我们正在观察的这些设备背后是什么？
As noisy as that first unclassified report was,
就像那样吵闹 第一份非机密报告是：
it barely scratched the surface.
这仅仅触及了皮毛。
The few elected officials that got to read the classified version of the report,
少数有机会阅读的民选官员 该报告的机密版本
it opened their eyes to the national security concerns surrounding this topic.
它让他们看到了国家 该话题存在安全隐患。
There's enough obvious evidence here that we need to take this seriously,
这里有足够的明显证据。 我们需要认真对待此事，
not downplay it.
不要轻描淡写。
I don't believe they're coming from foreign adversaries.
我不相信他们会来。 来自外国敌对势力。
Uh, if they were, that would suggest that they have a technology
呃，如果他们真是那样，那就表明 他们拥有一项技术
which is in a whole different sphere than anything we understand.
这完全是另一个领域。 比我们理解的任何东西都重要。
Uh, frankly, China and Russia aren't there and neither are we by the way.
呃，坦白说，中国和俄罗斯都不在列。 顺便说一句，我们也不是。
Trillions of galaxies out there,
宇宙中存在着数万亿个星系，
so who knows what might've developed somewhere else?
所以谁知道可能会发生什么呢？ 在其他地方开发的？
[woman speaking]
[女人说话]
What we believe is that there are unexplained aerial phenomena
我们相信的是 存在一些无法解释的空中现象
that have been cited and reported by pilots,
已被引用的 据飞行员报告，
Navy and Air Force,
海军和空军
that these phenomena have in some cases had an impact on our training ranges,
这些现象在某些情况下确实存在 对我们的训练靶场产生了影响，
on our pilot's ability to fly, train, operate and stay ready.
关于我们飞行员的飞行能力， 训练、操作并保持准备状态。
Um, that alone makes it a national security issue worth looking at.
嗯，光这一点就足以让它成为一个国家级的事件。 值得关注的安全问题。
We don't know.
我们不知道。
We don't have the answers about what these phenomena are.
我们没有答案。 关于这些现象究竟是什么。
[Lue] As we continued to make progress,
[卢]我们继续
a very powerful disinformation campaign began.
非常强大的 虚假信息传播活动开始了。
This effort was to destroy my reputation and credibility, full stop.
这项行动的目的是摧毁
[Jay] When the government started running
[Jay]当政府开始运转时
this despicable disinformation campaign against Lue,
这场卑鄙的虚假信息宣传活动
I actually received an email one day from the Pentagon Public Affairs office
有一天，我竟然收到了一封电子邮件。 来自五角大楼公共事务办公室
with this narrative that they were providing back to the media
这段叙述 他们向媒体提供的反馈
that was completely false.
那完全是错误的。
I replied all to that email and said, "This is wrong,"
我回复了那封邮件的所有内容，并说道： “这是错误的，”
and they ran with it anyway.
他们还是这么做了。
They actually told the American people that Lue Elizondo did not work there,
他们实际上告诉了美国人民
and that was an outright lie.
那完全是谎言。
[Lue] My family and I suffered greatly for it.
[Lue]我和我的家人
All you have in your life is really your credibility and your word.
你生命中所拥有的一切
It's heartbreaking.
太令人心碎了。
They don't want anybody that's based on facts being involved in this,
他们不想要任何这样的人 基于此事所涉及的事实，
so what do they do?
那么他们会做什么呢？
They go online and try to belittle Elizondo and me and anybody else
他们上网试图贬低 Elizondo、我以及其他任何人
that's trying to do it in a scientific way.
那是在尝试这样做 以科学的方式。
[Lue] As hard as it was,
[卢]尽管这很艰难，
I was still being privately encouraged by former members of AATIP
我当时仍然受到私下的鼓励
to continue the fight,
为了继续战斗，
and so that gave me the motivation to continue to press forward,
这给了我动力。 继续努力前进，
and the fire that we started continued to spread.
还有我们点燃的那场火 持续蔓延。
After decades of public denial,
经过数十年的公开否认，
the Pentagon now admits there's something out there,
五角大楼现在承认 外面有什么东西，
and the US Senate wants to know what it is.
以及美国参议院 想知道那是什么。
UFOs, Unidentified Flying Objects, are real?
UFO，不明飞行物 是真的吗？
The government has already stated for the record that they're real.
政府已经声明 郑重声明，它们都是真实存在的。
I'm not telling you that, the US government is telling you that.
我不会告诉你这些。 美国政府是这么告诉你的。
There's footage and records of objects in the skies
有影像资料和记录。 天空中的物体
that we don't know exactly what they are.
我们并不确切知道它们是什么。
What's your viewpoint on what these objects,
你的看法是什么？ 这些物体基于什么？
uh, that seem to defy all laws of physics are?
呃，这似乎违背了 所有的物理定律都是如此吗？
Well, first of all, that's a legitimate question now.
首先， 现在这的确是个值得探讨的问题。
There are lots of mysteries out there.
世上有很多谜团。
It should keep us humble. There's a lot of stuff we don't know.
这应该让我们保持谦逊。 有很多事情我们不知道。
There've been sightings all over the world.
有人目击过 遍布世界各地。
And when we talk about sightings, the other thing I will tell you is
当我们谈论目击事件时， 我还要告诉你的另一件事是：
it's not just a pilot or just a satellite or some, um, intelligence collection.
它不仅仅是一架试飞机或一颗卫星 或者进行一些情报收集。
Usually we have multiple sensors that are picking up these things.
通常我们有多个传感器 那些注意到这些事情的人。
There's always the question of is there something else
总会有这样的问题： 还有其他的吗？
that we simply do not understand that might come extra-terrestrially?
我们根本不理解 那可能是来自外星的物质？
I think it's a bit presumptuous,
我觉得这有点狂妄自大了。
if not arrogant for us to believe that there's no other form of life anywhere
如果我们相信这一点并非狂妄之举，那么 世界上再也没有其他生命形式了。
in the entire universe.
在整个宇宙中。
I've seen some of those videos from Navy pilots,
我看过其中一些视频。
and I must tell you that they are quite eyebrow-raising,
我必须告诉你
and, um, might in fact be some type of phenomenon
而且，嗯，实际上可能是 某种现象
that is the result of something that, um, we don't yet understand,
这是某种结果。 嗯，我们还不理解。
and that could involve some type of activity
这可能涉及
that some might say constitutes a different form of life.
有些人可能会说
We don't know if the non-human intelligence that is already here
我们不知道非人类是否 已经存在的智能
is exclusively extraterrestrial
完全是外星的
or perhaps some sort of cryptoterrestrial.
或许 某种神秘的外星生物。
Some people who are into the physics of time travel think
有些人喜欢 时间旅行的物理学思考
well, maybe they're time travelers.
或许他们是时间旅行者。
Even some sort of proto-human
甚至是某种原始人类
that somehow branched off from the human family tree long ago
不知何故，它分叉了。 从很久以前的人类家谱来看
and is as natural to this planet as we are.
而且非常自然 我们以这样的姿态来到这个星球。
Some ancient civilization that's sequestered away
一些古代文明 被隔离起来
somewhere on the Earth or on the seabed.
地球上的某个地方
We've heard testimonials from pilots as well as civilians
我们听到了一些证词 包括飞行员和平民
from different countries having seen things come from the ocean,
来自不同国家的 见过来自海洋的东西，
unexplained things, and these aren't missiles, they aren't rockets,
无法解释的事情，而这些并非如此。 导弹，它们不是火箭。
they aren't aircraft or submarines.
它们既不是飞机也不是潜艇。
These are other-worldly things
这些都是超凡脱俗的事物。
that are performing maneuvers that haven't been seen.
正在进行机动 那些尚未被发现的。
In fact, we have tracked UAP underwater going at speeds
事实上，我们已经追踪到了不明空中现象（UAP）。 水下高速运动
in excess of several hundred miles an hour,
过量 时速数百英里，
but without the associated signatures.
但缺少相关的签名。
I retired as the oceanographer of the Navy,
我退休了 作为海军海洋学家，
being the senior advisor for the Chief of Naval Operations in the Pentagon.
担任首席的高级顾问 五角大楼海军作战部。
But our knowledge of the ocean's rather limited.
但我们的知识
We haven't even explored 80% of the ocean volume.
我们甚至还没有探索过
We have mapped the surface of Mars and the moon to a higher resolution
我们已经绘制了火星表面地图。 并将月球放大到更高的分辨率
than the Earth's sea floor.
比地球海底还要厚。
[Lue] Is it possible that whatever we're seeing isn't from out there,
[Lue]是否有可能无论
it's from down there?
是从下面来的吗？
Are we looking at an entire world underneath the water?
我们是在审视整个 水下世界？
I think it's very safe to say that with so much of the ocean volume unexplored
我认为可以很肯定地说， 海洋中还有大片区域尚未被探索。
and the sea floor unmapped that if any intelligence were to arrive here
以及未绘制的海底地图 如果有什么情报到达这里的话
and not want to be detected, it would stay in the ocean.
而且不想被发现，
All these possibilities could come with different intentions and motivations.
所有这些可能性都可能发生 出于不同的目的和动机。
Whoever it is, they're here and they're operating here,
不管是谁，他们都来了。 他们在这里活动。
and they have been operating here for a long time.
他们一直在这里活动。 许久。
In 2022, we started pushing Congress hard to hold public UAP hearings,
2022年，我们开始大力向国会施压。 举行公开的UAP听证会，
and that's when disclosures started to get to the next level.
那时就会披露信息。 开始进入下一个阶段。
House panel is holding a public hearing on mysterious flying objects.
众议院小组正在举行公开听证会 关于神秘飞行物。
The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee describes this
众议院主席 情报委员会对此进行了描述。
as one of the great mysteries of our time,
作为我们这个时代的一大谜团，
and it's a big day for all of these people who have spent so many years
对所有这些人来说，这都是意义重大的一天。 那些花费了这么多年的人
pushing for more transparency into this topic.
推动提高透明度 深入探讨这个话题。
Out of everything in Congress and everything happening
国会的一切 以及发生的一切
currently in our country and world right now,
目前在我们国家 以及当今世界，
the UAP topic has been one of the only topics
UAP 话题已经 为数不多的几个话题之一
that's received this level of bipartisan support.
已收到 这种程度的两党支持。
It's just not an issue, at least as of yet, in this country
这根本不是个问题。 至少到目前为止，在这个国家是这样。
that lends itself to some sort of partisan or ideological divide.
这有利于某种 党派或意识形态分歧。
Democrats and Republicans just want to understand what's going on.
民主党和共和党 我只是想了解发生了什么事。
[André Carson] This hearing and oversight work
[安德烈·卡森] 这项听证和监督工作
has a simple idea at its core.
它的核心理念很简单。
Unidentified aerial phenomena are a potential national security threat,
不明空中现象 构成潜在的国家安全威胁
and they need to be treated that way.
他们需要受到那样的对待。
UAPs are unexplained. It's true, but they are real.
UAP（不明空中现象）无法解释。 没错，但它们是真实存在的。
They need to be investigated,
他们需要接受调查。
and many threats they pose need to be mitigated.
以及许多威胁 它们带来的问题需要加以缓解。
There is something there measurable by multiple instruments,
那里有什么东西 可用多种仪器测量，
and yet it seems to move in directions that are inconsistent
但它似乎在移动 方向不一致
with what we know of physics or science, more broadly.
根据我们对物理学的了解， 或者更广义地说，是科学。
There are a number of events in which we do not have an explanation,
有许多事件 我们对此没有解释，
in which there are flight characteristics
其中包含飞行特性
or signature management, um, that we can't explain.
或签名管理， 嗯，我们无法解释。
We know that our service members
我们知道我们的军人
have encountered unidentified aerial phenomenon.
遇到过 不明空中现象。
And because UAPs pose potential flight safety and general security risk,
并且因为不明空中现象（UAP）具有潜在威胁 飞行安全和一般安全风险
we are committed to a focused effort to determine their origins.
我们致力于集中精力 确定它们的起源。
The capabilities, systems,
能力、系统、
processes and sources we use to observe, record, study or analyze these phenomena
我们用来观察的过程和来源， 记录、研究或分析这些现象
need to be classified at appropriate levels.
需要进行分类 达到适当的水平。
We do not want, we do not want potential adversaries to know
我们不想，我们不想 需要了解的潜在对手
exactly what we're able to see or understand
我们究竟能做什么 看或理解
or how we come to the conclusions we make.
或者我们是如何来的 以及我们得出的结论。
Therefore, public disclosures must be carefully considered
因此，需要公开披露 必须仔细考虑
on a case-by-case basis.
具体情况具体分析。
The hearing was a historic bipartisan effort towards transparency,
这次听证会具有历史意义。 两党共同努力提高透明度
but it left both the American public and Congress
但这却让美国公众感到失望。 以及国会
with more questions than answers.
问题比答案更多。
While I was making progress,
当我取得进展时，
I learned that the Legacy Program was quietly behind the scenes pushing back,
我了解到传承计划是 悄悄地在幕后进行反击，
and they were creating bureaucratic hurdles.
他们正在创造 官僚主义障碍。
They were somehow able to block the funding
他们不知何故 能够阻止资金拨付
that was approved for the UAP task force.
该方案已获批准提交给不明空中现象工作组。
I can't describe it any other way than I was just angry.
我找不到其他更合适的描述方式了。 我当时只是很生气。
There's this hidden hand that is blocking all of these actions and things I'm doing.
有一只隐藏的手在阻挠。 我正在做的所有这些行动和事情。
A subversive government overriding the real government.
颠覆性政府 凌驾于真正的政府之上。
It's so bad that we really aren't going to make progress
情况糟到我们真的 不会取得进展
until someone shines the light on them.
直到有人用光芒照亮它们。
[Mellon] Then the staff and the members start to dig in more.
[梅隆]然后是工作人员
They begin to understand the landscape.
他们开始了解周围的地貌。
They begin to understand how much secrecy there is,
他们开始理解 保密程度有多高？
how much resistance there is to coming clean on this.
阻力有多大？
As Congress began hearing from whistleblowers in classified settings,
国会开始听取…… 在机密环境中的举报人，
they came to the realization of the existence of the Legacy Program.
他们意识到 遗产计划的存在。
The main players in the Legacy Program
传承计划的主要参与者
have long been the Central Intelligence Agency,
长期以来 中央情报局
the United States Air Force,
美国空军
the Department of Energy, and major defense contractors.
美国能源部 以及主要的国防承包商。
The Central Intelligence Agency is responsible for the oversight
中央情报局
of the overall effort.
整体努力。
You might think of them as a little bit as a headquarters element.
你可能会觉得他们有点……
The Deputy Director of Science and Technology at the CIA
科学副主任 以及中央情报局的技术
controls the UAP crash retrieval portfolio.
控制UAP 崩溃数据恢复组合。
[Lue] The United States Air Force is responsible for field operations.
[卢]美国空军
These are the folks that are responsible for deploying within moment's notice
这些人是负责人。 以便随时部署
anywhere in the world to go secure and retrieve crashed UAP.
去世界任何地方
We have intelligence teams quickly notified if there's some UAP event
我们有情报团队 如果发生不明空中现象 (UAP) 事件，会迅速收到通知。
that might involve a crashed vehicle or pieces from a crashed vehicle.
这可能涉及车辆碰撞事故。 或来自坠毁车辆的碎片。
The United States Air Force uses their own special forces,
美国空军 使用他们自己的特种部队，
but they also coordinate with other special forces
但他们也协调 与其他特种部队
in other branches of US military.
在美国军队的其他部门。
They're so well organized that they basically can get to a site,
他们组织得真好。 他们基本上可以到达某个地点，
gather material, whatever it is, and once it's in their possession,
收集材料，无论是什么材料。 一旦它落入他们手中，
they have the authority to classify it,
他们有权对其进行分类。
and therefore make any information about it unavailable to the public,
因此，任何信息 关于此事，公众无法获得相关信息。
even admission that it exists unavailable to the public.
甚至承认它的存在 不对公众开放。
[Lue] The defense contractors,
[卢]国防承包商，
they're responsible for the exploitation and the reverse engineering
他们对这种剥削负有责任。 以及逆向工程
and analysis of the materials.
以及材料分析。
They provide technical and advisory services
他们提供技术支持 以及咨询服务
that the government doesn't have.
政府没有的。
And last but not least is the Department of Energy.
最后，但同样重要的是 是美国能源部。
They are the world's experts in anything that is related to either atomic
他们是世界各领域的专家。
or nuclear technology or anything that gives off radiation.
或核技术 或者任何会释放辐射的物质。
But there's another advantage because the Department of Energy
但还有另一个优势 因为能源部
has its own security classification system
有其自身的安全保障 分类系统
well outside the overview and oversight, if you will,
完全超出概述范围 以及监督，如果你愿意这么称呼的话。
of traditional classification systems like the Department of Defense
传统分类系统 例如国防部
or the intelligence community.
或者情报界。
They've used the security and classification language
他们利用了安全措施 分类语言
in the Atomic Energy Act to hide the Legacy crash retrieval program.
在《原子能法》中隐藏
The intelligence officials that have briefed on these
情报官员 已经就这些方面进行过简报的
crash retrievals have talked about a number of different species
崩溃恢复已经讨论过 关于许多不同物种
having been observed to be associated with the crash.
已被观察到 与这起事故有关。
Bodies recovered are not all of the same type.
已找到的尸体 并非都是同一种类型。
I'm aware of at least two advanced non-human species,
我至少知道 两种高等非人类物种，
one of which made contact with the Legacy crash retrieval program.
其中一人与 使用 Legacy 崩溃恢复程序。
The other of which, the bodies were recovered by the crash retrieval program
其中另一具尸体是
in various crashes.
在各种崩溃中。
One of the questions is often raised,
经常有人提出的问题是：
if they're so advanced, why are there crashes?
如果他们真的那么先进， 为什么会发生崩溃？
But of course, I mean, you know,
当然，我的意思是，你知道的，
cars are well made and people drive them carefully,
汽车质量很好 人们驾驶它们时都很小心。
but there are crashes. It can happen.
但也会发生崩溃。这种情况是可能发生的。
Another option that's being considered is that maybe some of these
另一个正在考虑的方案 或许其中一些
were not "really crashes,"
“并非真正的坠机事故”，
but that they were left here for us to examine
但他们却被留在这里了。 供我们考察
in order to advance our technology forward at a faster pace.
为了推进 我们的技术正以更快的速度向前发展。
So in that sense, they can be seen as gifts from a more intelligent species.
所以从这个意义上讲，它们可以看到 这是来自更智慧物种的馈赠。
One of the questions that would then be raised would be, well,
其中一个问题是…… 那么，被抚养长大就意味着，嗯……
are gifts distributed differently among different nations
礼物的分配方式有何不同？ 在不同国家之间
or more or less homogeneously
或者或多或少是均匀的
to see who survives and makes progress the fastest?
看看谁能活下来。 而且进展最快？
It could be a giant IQ test, you might say.
这可能是一场大型智商测试， 你可能会这么说。
[Lue] As we brought whistleblowers to Congress,
[卢]正如我们带来的
we learned that the Legacy Program was involved in a long running secret war
我们了解到遗产计划 曾卷入一场旷日持久的秘密战争
with other nations to collect and reverse engineer
与其他国家 收集和逆向工程
vehicles not made by humans.
非人类制造的车辆。
In this secret theater of war,
在这个秘密的战场上，
the US has both allies and adversaries in a winner takes all scenario.
美国既有盟友也有对手。
This is a very complicated geopolitical landscape,
这是一个非常复杂的问题。
where alliances and allegiances shift like sand in the desert.
联盟与效忠
We would certainly prefer a situation where the retrieval
我们当然更愿意 检索的情况
is either in international waters or some other uncontested location
要么位于国际水域 或其他无争议的地点
or maybe in an allied country,
或者可能是在盟国，
but every country in the world would do everything in their power
但世界上每个国家
to try to retrieve an exquisite piece of technology.
尝试检索 一件精湛的科技产品。
The first country that cracks the code on this technology
第一个崩溃的国家 这项技术的代码
will be the leader for years to come.
未来几年将保持领先地位。
This is similar to the Manhattan Project.
这与曼哈顿计划类似。
We developed the atomic weapon.
我们研制出了原子武器。
We won the war, and it made us a superpower for almost a century now.
我们赢得了战争，这使我们……
This is the atomic weapon on steroids.
这是威力更强的原子武器。
Some of the craft observed could be the result of say our Legacy Program,
观察到的一些飞行器可能是 例如，我们传承计划的结果，
or on the other hand, it might be the result of advancements
或者另一方面， 这可能是技术进步的结果。
made by potential adversaries.
由潜在对手制造。
We have seen highly credible US government intelligence
我们已经看到了高度可信的 美国政府情报
on the Soviet recovery of a crashed UAP in 1989.
关于苏联的复苏
They recovered a Tic-Tac shaped UAP that was twice as big as the Tic Tac
他们回收了一个形状像Tic Tac糖的UAP（不明空中现象）。 那比Tic Tac糖大两倍
that was encountered by the USS Nimitz carrier strike group,
遇到 由尼米兹号航母打击群
and they did recover four bodies of humanoid aliens.
他们确实康复了。 四具人形外星人的尸体。
The Soviet scientists took apart the recovered craft
苏联科学家 拆解了回收的飞行器
and discovered a very advanced directed energy weapon.
并发现了一种非常先进的 定向能武器。
China is at the top of everybody's list
中国在所有人的名单上都名列前茅。
of concern right now in the Defense Department.
目前令人担忧的问题 在国防部。
[Lue] Some of this UAP activity we are seeing here in the United States
[Lue]部分不明空中现象活动
may actually be a result
这或许实际上是一个结果
of a Chinese UAP reverse engineering program.
中国UAP
If Xi Jinping had access to this, if Putin had access to this,
如果习近平能够获得这些信息， 如果普京能够获取这些信息，
and they thought that we did not have access
他们想 我们没有权限
to similar capabilities than what they did,
类似能力 比他们实际做的要好得多。
do you think for a second that they wouldn't consider
你仔细想想，哪怕只是一秒钟。 他们不会考虑
using it to achieve their ends of domination?
利用它来实现 他们的统治目的是什么？
[Rubio] And if their approach to it is driven by science
[鲁比奥]如果他们
and a desire to match what they think is ours,
以及匹配的愿望
we'll wake up one day and realize,
我们终有一天会醒来，然后意识到：
I don't know how they got there, but they got there ahead of us,
我不知道他们是怎么到那儿的。 但他们比我们先到了。
and now we're screwed.
现在我们完蛋了。
This technology can absolutely either revolutionize the way we do things
这项技术完全可以 彻底改变我们做事的方式
or completely destroy everything that we know.
或彻底摧毁 我们所知道的一切。
It often reminds me of the famous speech by President John F. Kennedy
这常常让我想起那篇著名的演讲 由约翰·F·肯尼迪总统撰写
when we were right at the threshold of entering
当我们 就在进入的门槛上
into a new era of discovery in space.
进入太空探索的新时代。
There is new knowledge to be gained and new rights to be won,
有新的知识需要获取 以及有待争取的新权利，
and they must be won and used for the progress of all people,
而且它们必须被赢得。 并用于促进全人类的进步，
for space science like nuclear science and all technology
空间科学 例如核科学和所有技术
has no conscience of its own.
它没有自己的良知。
Whether it will become a force for good or ill depends on man.
它是否会成为一股力量 好坏取决于人。
And only if the United States occupies a position of preeminence
只有当美国 占据卓越地位
can we help decide whether this new ocean will be a sea of peace
我们能否帮忙决定这是否 新的海洋将是一片和平的海洋。
or a new terrifying theater of war.
或者说，一个新的、可怕的战场。
Some of this is so secret, there have been very, very few people
其中一些内容非常机密， 很少有人
in our entire government that have been allowed or provided access to it.
在我们整个政府中，有 已被允许或提供访问权限。
[Lue] Some presidents have been briefed on the basic facts about the situation,
[卢]一些总统已经听取了简报
but they are not provided with all the details.
但它们并未提供。
[Rubio] I think there's this assumption that presidents
[鲁比奥]我觉得有
can walk in the Oval Office on day one and say,
可以走进椭圆形办公室
"All right, take me to Roswell. Show me the alien bodies."
“好吧，带我去罗斯威尔。”
"I want to see the video, the autopsy. I want to see the whole thing."
我想看视频，尸检报告。 我想看看全貌。
"Open it up."
“打开它。”
I think that really is a, um--
我觉得那真是一个，嗯——
A naive understanding of how our government works.
朴素的理解 关于我们政府运作方式的信息。
Even presidents have often been operating on a need-to-know basis.
甚至总统也经常是 仅在必要时才公开信息。
That's certainly true from historic standpoint.
那当然是真的 从历史角度来看。
The rationale, the justification was,
其理由和依据是：
the president shouldn't know about these things because that way
总统不应该知道 关于这些事情，因为那样
the president always has deniability.
总统总能否认一切。
All they need is a nod in this direction or in that direction,
他们需要的只是一个点头。 朝这个方向或朝那个方向
but that begins to ramp out of control.
但那只是个开始。 失控地加速。
Frankly, I don't even know if president would know who to ask.
坦白说，我甚至都不知道。 如果总统知道该问谁的话。
You could go to the director of the CIA,
你可以去找中央情报局局长，
nowadays, the director of National Intelligence, and ask them,
如今，导演 向国家情报部门询问他们，
and even that person may not know because those people rotate,
甚至那个人也可能不知道 因为这些人会轮换，
but people three layers underneath them that are there for 30 years,
但他们下面三层的人 在那里待了30年，
to them, it's like, "I've seen these people come and go."
对他们来说，这就好比是：“我见过……” 这些人来来往往。
"I have no obligation to tell them it exists."
我没有义务 告诉他们它的存在。
It just never percolates up.
它就是渗不上来。
A lot of people have this assumption that the director of CIA's
很多人都有这种想法。 中央情报局局长
right onto everything and knows everything.
直接进入所有 他无所不知。
The director of CIA is a political appointee.
中央情报局局长 是一名政治任命官员。
Quite frankly, [stutters] they're temporary help,
坦白说，[结巴] 他们只是临时帮手，
whereas the Director of Science Technology at CIA,
而主任 中央情报局科学技术部
this is a career intelligence professional,
这是一份职业 情报专业人员
that's where you're gonna put the program.
你要把程序放在那里。
I had a few private conversations
我进行过几次私人谈话
with former president George Herbert Walker Bush in 2003
与前总统
in which he told me that
他告诉我，
when he became the CIA director in the Ford administration,
当他成为中央情报局局长时 在福特政府时期，
he was not briefed on the Legacy UAP crash retrieval program.
他没有收到相关简报。 传统UAP坠毁物回收程序。
But he later found out about it, and he informed me
但他后来发现了这件事。 他告诉我
that there were a number of crash retrievals that had taken place
有若干 已发生的坠机救援行动
since the mid-1940s.
自 20 世纪 40 年代中期以来。
And he also informed me
他还告诉我
of a UAP event that took place at Holloman Air Force Base in 1964,
发生的 UAP 事件 1964年在霍洛曼空军基地，
where three UAPs approached the Air Force Base.
其中三个不明空中现象接近
One of them landed on the tarmac.
其中一架飞机降落在停机坪上。
And a non-human entity deboarded the craft that landed
以及非人类实体 从着陆的飞行器上下来。
and interacted with uniformed Air Force and civilian CIA personnel.
并与身着制服的空军人员互动 以及中央情报局文职人员。
And when he asked for more details,
当他要求提供更多细节时，
he was told that he did not have a need to know.
他被告知
I served over 30 years as a Army Green Beret
我服役超过30年 作为一名陆军绿色贝雷帽
in the United States Army. I ended my career as Secretary of Defense.
在美国陆军中。 我的职业生涯最终以国防部长的身份结束。
Some intelligence official decided, I, the acting Secretary of Defense,
某情报官员决定， 我，代理国防部长，
did not have a need to know about the UAP topic.
没有必要知道 关于不明空中现象（UAP）的话题。
[Lue] Several of my colleagues participated
[Lue]几个
in a panel organized by the George Bush administration
在面板中组织
when the administration contemplated going public with disclosure.
当政府考虑……
What it was a group of ten or 12 people from intelligence agencies,
那是一群十来个人。 来自情报机构
from the military, some business people,
来自军方、一些商人，
and they said, "Here's what's going on."
他们说：“事情是这样的。”
"The Americans, the Russians, and Chinese all have crash retrieved craft
美国人、俄罗斯人、 中国都有坠毁回收的飞行器。
from some other civilization,
来自其他文明，
and there's some belief at this point
目前已经有一些人相信这一点了。
that maybe this should be revealed to the public,
也许 这件事应该公之于众。
and we want to know what would the consequences be?"
我们想知道 后果会是什么？
This is a topic that has a potential to create
这是一个话题 它有可能创造
serious ontological shock to society.
对社会造成严重的本体论冲击。
It's not just national security.
这不仅仅是国家安全问题。
It's psychological, it's sociological, it's theological and it's philosophical.
这是心理学问题，也是社会学问题。 它既是神学问题，也是哲学问题。
It's undermining in many ways,
它在很多方面都具有破坏性，
it's troubling to a lot of people to say that there's something else out there
很多人对此感到不安。 外面还有其他东西。
either otherworldly, interdimensional.
要么是超凡脱俗的，要么是跨维度的。
I think unfortunately it goes against our traditions,
我觉得很遗憾。 这违背了我们的传统，
our cultural traditions, our religious traditions,
我们的文化传统， 我们的宗教传统，
and it challenges the beliefs of a lot of people.
它提出了挑战 很多人的信仰。
[Lue] The Vatican has irrefutable evidence that non-human intelligence exists.
[卢]梵蒂冈掌握着无可辩驳的证据
Although publicly they don't want to acknowledge it,
尽管公开
privately, they are very well aware of this.
私下里，
What happens when society realizes everything it's been taught
当社会意识到这一点时会发生什么？ 它所学到的一切
about the entire history of our species has been wrong
关于我们物种的整个历史 一直都错了
and everybody learns all at once that we're not the top of the food chain?
所有人都同时学习。 我们并非食物链顶端？
We're not the alpha predators.
我们不是顶级掠食者。
It would be a shakeup for institutions,
这将对现有机构造成巨大冲击。
it'd be a shakeup for norms, it'd be a shakeup in society.
这将对现有规范造成巨大冲击。 这将给社会带来巨大震动。
One has to be careful and one has to remember
必须谨慎 我们必须记住这一点。
that it's conceivable
可以想象
that there's something that's so disturbing or disruptive
有什么东西 这太令人不安或具有破坏​​性了。
or negative that there is a rationale
或者否定，即存在合理的理由
for not immediately disclosing all of that information.
因为没有立即披露 所有这些信息。
We actually came up with a list of 64 areas
我们其实想出了这个办法。 包含64个区域的列表
that really would be impacted to some significant degree by such a disclosure.
那确实会对某些人产生影响。 此类披露具有显著影响。
We add up all the numbers, it looks like this would be kind of a bad idea.
我们把所有数字加起来，看起来 这样做似乎不太好。
Did you go through the secret files, the UFO documents?
你翻阅过那些秘密文件吗？ UFO文件？
Now that you're out of office, you can do anything you want, right?
既然你已经卸任了， 你可以做任何你想做的事，对吗？
That's true. Yeah.
没错。是的。
Uh, but I'm not telling you.
呃，但我不会告诉你。
Without a doubt, there's hardly been any program
毫无疑问， 几乎没有任何节目
that has been so successfully kept out of the public eye
如此成功地 远离公众视线
as anything like crash retrievals of unknown craft.
就像崩溃恢复之类的东西 未知飞行器。
This line of strong control started
这条强有力的控制线开始了
at least in the Truman administration with the Roswell crash.
至少在杜鲁门政府时期是这样。 与罗斯威尔坠毁事件有关。
In AATIP, we learned that the UAP event
在 AATIP 中，我们了解到 UAP 事件
at the US Army airfield in Roswell in 1947 did actually occur.
在美国陆军机场 1947 年发生在罗斯威尔的事件确实发生过。
It was described to be a boot-heel shaped UAP
它被描述为 靴跟形状的无人空中现象
that broke into two pieces on impact.
撞击后断成了两截。
And observers saw what looked like hieroglyphics
观察者们看到了 看起来像象形文字
or some type of writing on it.
或者上面有某种文字。
You might describe 'em as runes or glyphs, hieroglyphs,
你可以这样描述它们。 如同符文或字形、象形文字
that were actually on the craft itself.
实际上，它们就在飞行器本身上。
And within that crash, non-human bodies were recovered.
而在那次崩溃中， 发现了非人类尸体。
Four non-human bodies were recovered from the UAP crash at Roswell.
已找到四具非人类尸体。 来自罗斯威尔不明空中现象坠毁事件。
The recovered material rom the crash, including the bodies,
回收的材料 从坠机现场，包括尸体在内，
were all sent up to Wright Field,
全部被送往赖特机场，
which is now called Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.
现在称为 赖特-帕特森空军基地。
That's where the US had their best reverse engineers.
那是美国曾经所在的地方。
Think about the context for everything in 1947.
思考一下背景 1947 年的一切。
The US had just won World War II
美国刚刚赢得了第二次世界大战。
and was entering into a Cold War with the USSR.
并进入
These UAP presented a technology of unfathomable power.
这些UAP展示了一种技术 拥有深不可测的力量。
It was imperative that the US be able to reverse engineer this new technology
美国必须能够做到这一点。 对这项新技术进行逆向工程
before anybody else or before anybody else even knew about it.
在其他人之前或之前 其他人是否知道这件事？
You can't tell your friends without telling your enemies.
你不能告诉你的朋友 不要告诉你的敌人。
That's a key component to every decision as to what we do or do not release.
这是所有决策的关键组成部分。 至于我们发布或不发布哪些内容。
Back in 1947,
回到1947年，
when they looked at this and they realized it was real and they realized
当他们看到这个并意识到 这是真的，他们意识到了。
they had no idea what it was.
他们完全不知道那是什么。
This was something you couldn't just talk about because the role
这是你无法做到的事 只是谈谈这个角色
of the President of the United States and the role of the military
美国总统的
is to defend the United States and to protect its citizens.
是保卫美国 并保护其公民。
If this is something that they can't protect against,
如果这是某种 他们无法防范的，
they're not gonna come out and say it. They're not gonna scare anybody.
他们不会公开承认的。 他们吓不到任何人。
They don't want to tell the American public about the threat
他们不想说 美国公众对这种威胁的认知
because there's nothing they can do about it.
因为什么都没有。 他们可以采取一些措施。
[Lue] It was only a couple months after Roswell that President Truman signed
[卢]仅仅过了几个月之后
the National Security Act of 1947,
1947年国家安全法
which established both the Air Force and the Central Intelligence Agency.
这既建立了空军，也建立了空军。 以及中央情报局。
That was the start point in which both the CIA and the Air Force
那是起点， 中央情报局和空军
began to take operational control of the UAP topic.
开始服用 UAP主题的运行控制。
But it wasn't until a couple of years later
但直到
when Truman signed the Central Intelligence Agency Act
杜鲁门签署
that really allowed, endorsed the CIA
这确实允许并认可了中央情报局。
to be able to run secret intelligence operations
能够运行
outside the normal routine oversight channels.
超出正常范围
Basically be able to run operations without anybody knowing.
基本上能够运行操作 无人知晓。
From Roswell on, the strategy for dealing with the public
从罗斯威尔开始， 应对公众的策略
and ensuring US secrecy is maintained
并确保美国保密义务得到维护
was to basically adopt the strategy of deny everything, admit nothing,
基本上就是采取这种策略 否认一切，却什么也不承认。
make counter accusations,
提出反指控，
put out false narratives, intimidate and discredit witnesses.
散布虚假信息，
In essence, deny, deny, deny.
总之，否认，否认，再否认。
Establish stigma surrounding this topic
消除围绕这一话题的污名
in order to prevent any type of disclosure.
为了防止 任何类型的披露。
Executive Order 12333 bans covert action to influence the public and the media,
第12333号行政命令禁止秘密行动 影响公众和媒体，
but the Legacy crash retrieval program has been ignoring that.
但 Legacy 崩溃恢复程序 一直对此置之不理。
In fact, they are aggressively influencing public opinion
事实上，他们咄咄逼人 影响公众舆论
by using an active disinformation campaign.
通过使用主动式 虚假信息宣传活动。
To create a tradition of disbelief, where you basically start very early,
为了建立一种不信的传统， 基本上，你很早就开始这么做了，
"Nah, nah, everybody who sees UFOs are crackpots,"
“不，不，大家 “那些看到不明飞行物的人都是疯子。”
and then that gets built in, you know, to the media enterprise,
然后它就被内置进去了， 你知道，对于媒体企业而言，
it gets built into Hollywood, it gets built into the public.
它融入了好莱坞， 它融入了公共领域。
CIA funded Hollywood movies in order to create that ridicule factor
中央情报局资助的好莱坞电影 为了制造那种嘲笑效应
that they still use to this day.
他们至今仍在使用。
Do you believe that the recent spike in UFO encounters--
你认为最近的激增是合理的吗？ 在不明飞行物遭遇事件中——
- [all laughing] - I get the UFO question?
- [众人大笑] 我明白了关于不明飞行物的问题？
- [woman] Yeah, you do! - Come on, man!
- [女人] 是的，你确实有！ 拜托，伙计！
- I'm not-- - [people laughing]
我不是—— - [众人大笑]
- [man] Would you tell us? - I'm just--
- [男] 你能告诉我们吗？ 我只是——
You know, I loved E.T. the movie, but I'm just gonna leave it there.
你知道吗，我非常喜欢电影《E.T.外星人》。 但我还是就说到这里吧。
Up until very recently, there was zero incentive for a naval aviator
直到最近，情况都是如此。 海军飞行员没有动力
to come forward and say, "This is what I saw."
站出来说： “这就是我看到的。”
And honestly, up until very recently, there was zero incentive for a US Senator
说实话，直到最近， 美国参议员没有任何动力
to talk about it because people would think,
谈谈这件事 因为人们会想，
"What's wrong? This guy's a weirdo."
“怎么了？这家伙是个怪人。”
Over the years, military service members,
多年来，军人
intelligence officials and even private citizens have been ridiculed
情报官员甚至 普通公民遭到嘲笑
and made to look crazy to the point where people have lost their jobs,
并被刻画成疯子的样子，简直到了这种地步。 那些失去工作的人，
they've lost their ability to provide for their families,
他们失去了能力 为了养家糊口，
they lost their security clearances.
他们失去了安全许可。
These people had their lives ruined simply because they spoke the truth
这些人的生活被彻底毁了。 仅仅因为他们说了真话
about what they learned or what they saw.
关于他们所学到或所看到的。
People that come forward with this,
那些站出来谈论这件事的人，
um, I feel like they've taken their life in their own hands.
嗯，我觉得他们已经拿走了 他们的生命掌握在自己手中。
People say, well, government can't keep a secret.
人们说，嗯，政府 守不住秘密。
Well, there are a number of programs I've been involved in
嗯，有很多 我参与过的项目
that have never gotten revealed.
从未被揭露的。
The truth of the matter is people and programs can be kept secret.
事实是 人员和项目都可以保密。
Usually it's just out of personal, wanting to protect oneself.
通常只是出于个人原因， 想要保护自己。
This is the most successful disinformation campaign
这是最成功的 虚假信息宣传活动
in the history of the US government.
在美国政府历史上。
The irony in this is that the deception campaign
讽刺的是， 欺骗运动
to create stigma was so successful
制造污名化的做法非常成功。
it actually inadvertently created a new unforeseen problem.
实际上，这是无意中发生的。 造成了一个新的、意想不到的问题。
Stigma has been a tremendous problem
污名化一直是个巨大的问题。
that it's actually a national security threat to the United States.
它实际上是一个国家 对美国构成安全威胁。
Other countries are not suffering from the stigma that we are,
其他国家并未遭受这种影响。 摆脱我们所遭受的污名，
so we are already, as Americans, at a disadvantage.
所以，作为美国人，我们已经…… 处于劣势。
How can we expect to maintain a strategic advantage
我们如何才能期待 保持战略优势
when 99.999% of all scientists here in this country
当这里99.999%的科学家都这样的时候 在这个国家
don't even think it's real?
你甚至不认为这是真的吗？
Science moves forward on the basis of exchanging information,
科学在这样的基础上向前发展 信息交流，
and when it's all tied up and held down, you just can't make progress.
当一切都被捆绑和固定住时， 你根本无法取得进展。
You had information being locked away that frankly could improve the lives
你的一些信息被锁起来了。 坦率地说，这可以改善人们的生活。
of every human being on this planet and change the trajectory for our species.
地球上的每一个人 并改变我们物种的命运轨迹。
This information was and is still being locked down
这些信息是 目前仍处于封锁状态
by the Legacy crash retrieval program.
由 Legacy 崩溃恢复程序执行。
Too much information resides in different stove pipes.
信息过载 在不同的烟囱管中。
It's controlled by different baronies and different fiefdoms spread throughout
它由不同的男爵领控制 以及遍布各地的不同封地
the National Security kingdom.
国家安全王国。
They each view information as power.
他们都把信息视为力量。
They're each reluctant to share information.
他们每个人都很不情愿。 分享信息。
They hoard it. They like to trade it like a currency.
他们囤积起来。 他们喜欢像交易货币一样交易它。
All of these things conspire to prevent us
所有这些因素共同作用，阻止我们
from getting the big picture and bringing the information together.
从把握全局 并将信息汇总起来。
It's worth noting that the Air Force didn't contribute,
值得注意的是 空军没有做出贡献，
uh, any or maybe just a tiny number of, uh, reports of UAPs.
呃，任何，或者也许只是 极少数关于不明空中现象的报告。
Notwithstanding the fact that the Air Force controls
尽管 空军控制
the North American Aerospace Defense Command,
北美
they're responsible for space surveillance.
他们是负责人
They have aircraft with superior radar systems{\