委托买卖 动物和鸟类 "Animals and birds bought or sold on commission."
为爱犬寻找负责 “接送、剪指甲、洗澡”的地方… I'm looking for a place that will "collect, clip, bath," and return my dog...
“KN1-7727，香烟和烟草” "KN1-7727, cigarettes and tobacco."
“委托买卖动物和鸟类” "Animals and birds bought or sold on commission."
我要一只狗帮我拿澡盆 清洗澡盆，拿回香烟… I want a dog that's gonna collect and clean my bath, return my cigarette...
把烟草给我的动物 还会给我的小鸟佣金 and give tobacco to my animals and then give my birds a commission.
寻找某人帮我卖狗… I'm looking for somebody to sell my dog...
取回我的剪子、买我的动物 训练我的小鸟 collect my clip, buy my animal, and straighten out my bird.
寻找一个地方 帮我的小鸟洗澡… I'm looking for a place to bathe my bird...
买我的狗、取回我的剪子… buy my dog, collect my clip...
卖我香烟 给我澡盆佣金 sell me cigarettes and commission my bath.
我要找个地方帮我收佣金… I'm looking for a place that's going to collect my commission...
卖狗、烤小鸟 把我卖给香烟 sell my dog, burn my bird, and sell me to the cigarette.
鸟我的买、收集我的意图 洗我的佣金 Going to bird my buy, collect my will, and bathe my commission.
寻找一个地方 懂得动物我的灵魂… I'm looking for a place that's going to animal my soul...
编织我的返回、洗我的脚 收集我的狗 knit my return, bathe my foot, and collect my dog.
委托我卖动物给小鸟 让我可以剪毛和买澡盆… Commission me to sell my animals, to the bird to clip and buy my bath...
然后把我还给香烟 and return me back to the cigarettes.
英国伦敦-1966年
伍迪葛西巴布怎么了？
这些都是抗议歌曲，拜托 These are all protest songs. Now, come on.
这不是英国音乐 是美国音乐，搞清楚 This is not British music, it's American music. Now, come on.
When you're lost in the rain in Juarez
And it's Eastertime too
When your gravity's down
And negativity don't get you through
Just don't put on any airs
When you're down on Rue Morgue Avenue
They got some hungry women there
And they really make a mess out of you
我不会对你这样
Sweet Melinda
The peasants call her the goddess of gloom
She speaks good English
左手手指借我看？
左手手指？ My left fingertips?
-对，借我摸一下 -你有毛病 - Yeah, let me feel them. - Good God, man.
怎样？ What?
左手手指？ 连右手我都不让你看
你又不用右手弹吉他
And picking up Angel
Who just arrived here from the coast
Who looked so fine at first
But left looking just like a ghost
巴布！ Bob!
你不再唱抗议歌曲了？
谁说的？
我所有的歌都是抗议歌曲
每一首都是，那是… Every single one of them. That's...
我的工作就是抗议 That's all I do, is protest.
3年前
华盛顿大游行-1963年8月
顽强份子-马丁路德金恩博士 主持仪式
华盛顿大游行不但是 希望高涨的一刻… The March on Washington was not only a moment of extreme hopefulness...
也是那个希望的可能性… it was a moment of the confirmation of the possibility...
获得确认的一刻 of that hope becoming a reality.
那是人民能够改变历史… That was the moment of recognition...
获得认同的一刻 of what people could do to change history.
我有一个梦… I have a dream...
有一天… that one day...
这个国家将会壮大… this nation will rise up...
并实现它信念的真谛… and live out the true meaning of its creed.;
我们坚持这些真理… "We hold these truths to be self-evident...
“人人生而平等” "that all men are created equal."
金恩演讲时我离他好近 I was up close when King was giving that speech.
到今天那些话还深深影响我 To this day it still affects me in a profound way.
现在为各位介绍一位 来自纽约的… I would like now to introduce a young singer...
年轻歌手，巴布狄伦 from New York, Bob Dylan.
我从台上望出去 望向群众… I looked out the podium, I looked out at the crowd...
记得我心里这样想 and I remember thinking to myself.;
“老天，从没看过这么多群众” "Man, I've never seen such a large crowd."
Oh the time will come up When the winds will stop
And the breeze will cease to be breathing
Like the stillness in the wind Before the hurricane begins
The hour that the ship comes in
终于获得自由，终于获得自由 感谢万能的上帝 Free at last, free at last, thank God Almighty.
我们终于获得自由 We are free at last.
And the ship's wise men Will remind you once again
That the whole wide world is watching
他接纳所有人… He would take individuals and infuse them with life that you could understand.
以他们了解的方式 丰富他们的生活
伊济杨
虽然他不认为自己是抗议歌手… So even if he never considered himself a protest singer, he was a protest singer.
他的确就是抗议歌手
他看到周遭发生的事… And he saw what was happening all around him...
每个人都看到周遭发生的事… and everybody else saw what was happening all around them...
但他首先将它诉诸于声音 but he voiced that for the first time.
“大雨将至” 表示有事情将要发生 "Hard rain's gonna fall" means something's going to happen.
1963年10月
Oh, where have you been, my blue-eyed son?
And where have you been, my darling young one?
1963年11月
你好-哈啰
甘尼迪-1964年
I've stumbled on the side of 12 misty mountains
I've walked and I've crawled on six crooked highways
I've stepped in the middle of seven sad forests
And I've been out in front of a dozen dead oceans
I've been 10,000 miles in the mouth of a graveyard
And it's a hard and it's a hard
And it's a
他被枪杀，奥斯华被枪杀 He's been shot! Oswald has been shot.
Rain's a-gonna fall
我们想让这个世界变高尚 成为更好的地方… We were going to make this world a decent, better place...
但那个损失 使全国陷入恐慌 but that loss, I think it traumatized the nation terribly.
1963年12月
紧急公民自由联盟… The Emergency Civil Liberties Union...
是由一群强力主张… was people who were really, deeply involved...
进步的政治理念 是一群理想主义者… in progressive politics, were idealists...
他们怀抱公平、正义的梦想 and had a dream about fairness and justice.
巴比，21岁左右 他站了出来… Well, here's Bobby, he's 21 years old or whatever, he gets up there...
他们颁奖给他 他显得非常不自在 and they're giving him an award and his discomfort was extraordinary.
他用手指着他们说… And he pointed his finger at them and he said...
播放巴布狄伦的演说
"I haven't got any guitar. I can talk, though.
我没带吉他 但我可以讲话
我代表前往古巴的士兵… "I want to thank you for the Tom Paine Award...
谢谢你们颁发汤姆潘恩奖 "on behalf of everybody that went down to Cuba.
首先，他们都是年轻人… "First of all, because they're all young and it took me a long time to get young...
我经过多年才成为年轻人…
我觉得自己是年轻人了 我觉得很骄傲 "and now I consider myself young, and I'm proud of it.
我为年轻感到骄傲 "I'm proud that I'm young.
我只希望今晚出席的每个人… "And I only wish that all you people who are sitting out here tonight...
都不在这里，我看到各种面孔 顶上头发茂盛… "weren't here, and I could see all kinds of faces with hair on their head...
“这一切让我觉得你们也还年轻” "and everything like that, everything leading to youngness. "
他们称赞我是时事歌曲创作者 You know, they were trying to build me up as a topical songwriter.
我从来就不是时事歌曲创作者… I was never a topical songwriter to begin with...
不管他们以什么理由… for whatever reason they were doing it...
都不是好理由 那种信念不适合我 was reasons not, really... That didn't really apply to me.
老年人头发掉光时 他们就该下台 "Old people, when their hair grows out, they should go out.
我低头看统治我的人… "I look down to see the people that are governing me...
为我制定规则 他们都顶上无毛 "and making my rules, and they haven't got any hair on their head.
我变得非常愤怒 "I get very uptight about it.
我再也不分黑白 左派右派 "There's no black and white, left and right to me any more.
只有上与下 底下非常接近地面 "There's only up and down, and down is very close to the ground.
“我只想奋力向上 完全没想到政治这种小事” "And I'm trying to go up without thinking about anything trivial, such as politics. "
狄伦接受紧急公民自由委员会… The evening that Dylan was given the Freedom Award...
艾伦金斯堡
颁发自由奖那个晚上… from the Emergency Civil Liberties Committee...
显然他站起来 大胆的反抗… apparently he got up, stood on his hind legs and said he was not a political poet...
声明他不是政治诗人…
不是任何人的左翼仆人… and nobody's left wing servant...
而是一个独立的吟游诗人 but an independent minstrel or something.
大伙惊讶而且愤怒… And astonished and pissed everybody off...
因为他不是训练有素的乖宝宝 by not being a nice trained seal.
大家期望他 反覆奉献一样的东西… People were expecting him to give the same thing over and over again...
苏西罗托罗
态度明确 心态明确… in a precise manner, and a precise theory, in a precise way, and it got creepy...
做法也明确 但情况变得令人提心吊胆…
因为你为什么要逼自己 进入陌生的胡同？ because why should you have to push yourself into a tunnel that isn't yours?
一路走来十分顺畅 道路十分明确 I mean, you're driving along and all these roads are apparent.
为什么你要走小胡同？ 那的确是条小胡同… Why do you have to take that tunnel, and go in and it's literally a tunnel...
因为它有政治目的 because it's political in its theory?
你大可自由自在遨游… Whereas you're out there, driving around...
欣赏沿路的大好风光 那才是你带来的好处 with all this other scenery going on, and that's what you're bringing out.
反正我是个局外人 I was like an outsider, anyway.
我以局外人身分出现 很多方面看来… I'd come to town as an outsider, and still, in a lot of ways...
我现在更是个局外人 I was still more outside than I ever was, really.
他们企图让我变成 某个目的的同路人 They were trying to make me an insider to some kind of trip they were on.
我可不同意 I don't think so.
Through the mad mystic hammering
of the wild ripping hail
The sky cracked its poems
in naked wonder
That the clinging of the church bells
blew far into the night
Leaving only bells of lightning
and its thunder
Striking for the gentle
striking for the kind
Striking for the guardians
and protectors of the mind
And the poet and the painter
who lights up his rightful time
And we gazed upon
The chimes of freedom flashing
巴布在圣塔莫尼卡市民剧场 举办了一场音乐会… Bob had a concert at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium...
他告诉听众他和纽沃斯 如何横跨美国… where he told everybody how he and Neuwirth and them had traveled...
玛丽亚玛道
一路走来，他唱 Chimes of Freedom Flashing… across the country and he sang Chimes of Freedom Flashing...
非常动听 and it was incredible.
演唱会后突然发现 我们被包围了 After the concert, all of a sudden we found ourselves trapped.
外面有一大片群众 There was a press of people outside.
我们进到旅行车里 人群不断涌向… We made it into the station wagon, and then all the people came rushing over...
旅行车 我们缓慢将车子开出去 to the station wagon, and we slowly started to move the station wagon out.
我回过头来发现… 后面本来放着扩大机… And I turned around and saw... There was an amp and his guitars...
和他的吉他 用防水布盖着… and their suitcases in the back with a little tarp over it, and I saw the tarp moving.
我发现防水布在动
两个年轻女孩躲在里面 Two young girls stowed away under the tarp.
我们只好停车 客气的赶走她们 So we had to stop and gently eject them.
当然，所有人都拼命涌过来 And of course, then all the people were pressing around.
巴比！ Bobby!
突然间，他成了偶像 All of a sudden, he had become an idol.
人们开始对他有更多要求 That was the beginning of people wanting more from him.
好像光是歌曲已经不够 You know, as if just the songs weren't enough.
大家想跟巴比睡觉… Everybody wanted to sleep with Bobby...
陪巴比一起疯狂 to get high with Bobby.
这份崇敬是献给巴比的 但也针对他所创造的东西… The reverence was for Bobby, but it was also for what he had created...
大家都想接近那个东西 and everybody wanted to get close to it.
人们想接近他的欲望 形成一股巨大的吸引力 The desire to be next to him produced a huge magnet which drew everybody.
不分老少 Young and old.
天才制定自己的法则 而狄伦是个天才 Genius makes its own rules, and Dylan is a genius.
歌唱的良知 道德栽判，同时也是布道者 A singing conscience and moral referee, as well as a preacher.
这个年轻人现在有点尴尬… He's also a very embarrassed young man now, because...
因为他坐在这里无法动弹… It's always embarrassing to sit there with your feet in cement...
还必须听别人满口夸赞 确实让人尴尬 while somebody compliments you either casually or lavishly.
史提夫亚伦秀-1964年2月
但我今天下午看了几则 关于巴布的报导… But, I've been reading a number of stories about Bob this afternoon...
内容都大同小异 and they are all of that order.
《告示牌》的评论写道… A comment in Billboard, the trade publication, says:
狄伦的诗诞生于痛苦的觉醒… "Dylan's poetry is born of a painful awareness...
“当代人类处境下的悲剧” "of the tragedy that underlies the contemporary human condition."
巴布，你唱的歌曲 一部份是自己的创作… Bob, do you sing partly your own songs...
一部份是别人的 你的素材来自何处？ and partly other people's, or where do you get your material?
-现在我都自己创作了 -你都唱你自己的歌？ - Well, they're all mine, now. - You sing all your own material?
你自己创作写歌有多久了？ And how long have you been writing your own music?
大约2年了 For about two years.
逆势而行
他的作风其来有自 因为许多事情不吐不快… He came to be as he is because things needed saying...
年轻人会想大声说出来 and the young people were the ones who wanted to say them.
他听到同龄的声音 He somehow had an ear on his generation.
不需要我来告诉你 他属于你们的，巴布狄伦 I don't have to tell you. You know him, he's yours, Bob Dylan.
新港民谣节-1964年
I ain't looking to compete with you
Beat or cheat or mistreat you
Simplify you, classify you
Deny, defy or crucify you
All I really want to do
Is, baby, be friends with you
选自默瑞勒纳的Festival
我要感谢你们 I want to say thank you.
我要感谢你们 我要感谢你们，我爱你们 I want to say thank you. I want to say thank you, I love you.
Well, it ain't no use to sit and wonder why, baby
If you don't know by now
我认为强尼凯许比较像宗教人物 Johnny Cash was more like a religious figure to me.
他在新港跟我站在一起 And there he was at Newport, you know, standing side by side.
认识他是我这辈子极大的震撼 Meeting him was the high thrill of a lifetime.
光是他唱我的歌… And, just the fact that he had sung one of my songs...
已是不可思议的事 was just unthinkable.
强尼凯许和琼卡特走过来 巴布刚好… Johnny Cash and June Carter came by after Bob had put a couple...
用手提式机器 录完几首三段式舞曲 three tunes on tape for him, this little portable machine.
强尼请他到大厅里… Johnny called him out in the hall...
东尼葛拉夫
巴布几分钟后回来… and Bob came back in a few minutes later, he was holding this guitar and he says:
他手里拿着吉他说…
“他把吉他送给我” "He gave me his guitar."
纽沃斯说： 哇，那是老乡村传统 Neuwirth was saying, "Wow, that's an old country tradition.
“有人把吉他给你 表示莫大的荣耀，你知道吗？” "If somebody gives you a guitar, that's a big honor, you know?"
“请为我弹奏一首歌” "Please play a song for me."
时事歌曲音乐坊 新港民谣节
Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me
I'm not sleepy and there is no place I'm going to
Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man, play a song for me
In the jingle jangle morning
I'll come following you
Though I know that evening's empire
has returned into sand
Vanished from my hand left me blindly here to stand
but still not sleeping
My weariness amazes me
I'm branded on my feet
I have no one to meet
And the ancient empty streets too dead for dreaming
巴布开始忽视时事议题时 我觉得很烦恼… When Bob began to ignore topical material, it bothered me...
因为他写下了 这么棒的题材，你知道吗？ 'cause he wrote such marvelous material, you know?
雷文沙诺 民谣经纪/音乐会承办人
突然停止这类创作 表示他正在远离… And suddenly to have stopped that meant that he was going away...
我们所感受的政治觉醒 from a political consciousness that we felt we all had.
原因之一是朝向商业化… One can attribute that as going commercial...
我们因为他抛弃原来风格 而担忧不已 as getting away from this, and that bothered us.
Then take me disappearing
through the smoke rings of my mind
Down the foggy ruins of time
far past the frozen leaves
The haunted, frightened trees
out to the windy beach
Far from the twisted reach of crazy sorrow
Yes, to dance beneath the diamond sky
with one hand waving free
Silhouetted by the sea
circled by the circus sands
With all memory and fate
driven deep beneath the waves
Let me forget about today
until tomorrow
艺术家必须谨慎 不要处于某种他认为… An artist has got to be careful never really to arrive at a place...
已经“完成”的状态 where he thinks he's "at" somewhere.
你必须永远不断的… You always have to realize that you're constantly...
处于转变的状态，你知道吗？ in the state of becoming, you know?
如果你能处在这种境界 基本上就没有什么问题 And, as long as you can stay in that realm, you'll sort of be all right.
我无法分析自己的作品 我也不打算满足群众… I can't self-analyze my own work, and I wasn't going to cater to the crowd...
因为我知道有些人喜欢 有些人并不喜欢 because I knew certain people would like it, and certain people didn't like it.
我趁没人注意就跨过门槛 I had gotten in the door when no one was looking.
既然已经进来了 从现在开始… I was in there now, and there was nothing anybody...
谁都拿我没有办法 from then on, could ever do about it.
曾几何时机器作业 变得如此令人憎恨… There's a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious...
内心感到恼怒 因为你无从参与 makes you so sick at heart that you can't take part.
连被动参与都没有办法 你不得不将身体放置在… You can't even passively take part, and you've got to put your bodies...
齿轮上、轮子上… upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus...
控制杆上 种种仪器上…
你必须让它停止 你必须告诉那些… and you've got to make it stop, and you've got to indicate to the people...
操作它的人、拥有它的人 除非你获得自由… who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you're free...
机器必须完全排除于工作之外 the machine will be prevented from working at all.
马利欧沙维欧，自由演说运动 加州大学柏克莱分校
警察找上了马利欧 他们把他拉走 The police have got Mario, they are pulling him away.
警察拉走马利欧… The police have pulled Mario away...
我们觉得那些家伙 之前并不了解 All of us felt that those folks before didn't get it.
我们被一群人包围… We were surrounded...
四周都是感觉迟顿的人 他们没有察觉改变的需求 by people who were insensitive to the need for change.
这就是为什么彼得、保罗、玛丽 巴布狄伦、琼拜雅… And that's why Peter, Paul and Mary, and Bob Dylan, Joan Baez...
这几个年纪相同的人 被推为领导者的原因… all of whom were about the same age, were put in positions of leadership...
因为大学生对他们有认同感 because there was an identification amongst the college students.
我察觉美国各地都一样 I felt it all over America.
不管你走到哪里… You know, wherever in America you went, you felt that things were happening...
你觉得事情正在发生…
好像奥林匹克运动会… in an Olympian type of way...
孩子们群起不听父母命令 in which children were beyond their parents' command.
他意图实行自由演说… He tried to exercise free speech...
大约在那个时期 我在柏克莱作画… Sometime around that period of time I was painting in Berkeley...
巴比纽沃斯
电话响起 应该是1964年 and the phone rang, and I think this was 1964.
电话响起 是巴布，他说… The phone rang, it was Bob and he said:
“我要表演，你来不来？” "I have to do these shows, you want to come?"
我说： “我正在作画” I said, "Well, I'm painting pictures."
他说： “我帮你买件皮夹克” 又说： “还有你所需的颜料” He said, "I'll buy you a leather jacket," and he said, "all the paint you need."
听完我立刻就上飞机… The next thing I knew, you know, I got on a plane...
飞往纽约 and I flew to New York.
在那个时代，艺术成就… In those days, artistic success...
不是靠金钱来衡量 was not dollar-driven.
那是一个比较单纯的年代 It was, you know... Those were simpler times.
如果你有话要说… If you had something to say, which was the...
基本上，人们被分级… Basically, the way people were rated...
他们会说： 你有没有看过欧奈特柯曼？ you know, they'd say: "Have you seen Ornette Coleman?
“他有没有话要说？” "Does he have anything to say?"
这个状况对 巴布或其他人都一样 And it was the same with, like... With Bob or anybody else.
他们有没有话要说？ Do they have anything to say or not?
Darkness at the break of noon Shadows even the silver spoon
The handmade blade, the child's balloon
Eclipses both the sun and moon To understand you know too soon
There is no sense in trying
As pointed threats, they bluff with scorn
Suicide remarks are torn From the fool's gold mouthpiece
The hollow horn plays wasted words Proves to warn
That he not busy being born Is busy dying
没有人听过这种歌 Nobody had heard anything like this before.
没有人听过这种歌 No one had heard anything like this before.
口碑传开来了 There was a word of mouth.
一千二百人 并不是多大的群众… And by the way, a crowd of 1,200 people isn't that big a crowd...
如果你冷静想想 if you stop and think about it.
差不多等于现在 在喜莱登广场… That's about how many people are waiting for the D train...
等D线列车的人潮 at Sheridan Square right now.
While preachers preach of evil fates
Teachers teach that knowledge waits Can lead to hundred-dollar plates
Goodness hides behind its gates But even the President of the United States
Sometimes must have to stand naked
大约在他问我要不要 一起去那时候… Around that time he asked me if I wanted to go with him to...
他在芝加哥有个女朋友 You know, he had a date in Chicago.
我要不要一起去？ Did I want to come along?
令我惊讶的是 他有一种气息… What struck me was that he was at one...
或说他逐渐跟一种气息划上等号 or he became identical with his breath.
也可以说狄伦变成了 一道空气，在某些时刻… And Dylan had become a column of air, so to speak, at certain moments...
他的整个身心焦点… where his total physical and mental focus was...
就是从他身体呼出的一股气息 this single breath coming out of his body.
他在公众面前建立一种方式 让自己几乎变成一个僧人… He had a found a way in public to be almost like a shaman...
将他所有的智慧和意识… with all of his intelligence and consciousness...
集中在这股气息上 focused on his breath.
So don't fear if you hear
A foreign sound to your ear
It's alright, Ma
I'm only sighing
那时，他写下越来越多散文 He was doing more and more prose writing, I think, at the time, too.
我认为他花比较多时间… I think he was spending more time...
坐下来好好写一些… actually sitting down and writing stuff...
不一定要唱的东西 that he wasn't necessarily going to sing.
后来才发现其中有一些 是可以唱出来的 And then finding out that some of that could be sung as well.
Of war and peace the truth just twists
lts curfew gull just glides
Upon four-legged forest clouds
The cowboy angel rides
歌曲的理想表演方式… The ideal performances of the songs...
就是在世界各地现场演唱 would then come on stages throughout the world.
我的唱片中很少有现场歌曲 Very few could be found on any of my records.
每秒钟，你知道… Every second, every... You know...
最重要的是 传达到听众心中 Reaching the audience is what it's all about.
All except when 'neath the trees of Eden
没有遮蔽物、帘子、门、窗… There are no veils, curtains, doors, walls...
阻隔在巴布的手和… anything between what pours out of Bob's hand...
琼拜雅
文章之间… onto the page...
这对信仰他的核心群众… and what is somehow available to the core of people...
是有效用的 who are believers in him.
有些人表示没有兴趣 There's some people who'd say... You know, not interested.
但如果你没兴趣 他就会愈来愈深入 But if you're interested, he goes way, way deep.
琼拜雅与巴布狄伦
1964年12月 Go away from my window
Leave at your own chosen speed
典型的夜晚 A typical evening.
我认为会有声音检验 I guess there would be soundcheck.
我负责处理巴布将采取… And there would be me dealing with what kind of mood...
何种情绪 Bob was going to be in.
我已经在做这种工作 I was already doing that, you know.
当他开心昂扬时 演出会非常棒 And when he was cheerful and up, it was just spectacular.
如果他情绪低落 则根本没有办法了解他 And if he was dark, there wasn't any way to reach him.
But always strong
巴布似乎完全忽视 针对他而来的东西 Bob seemed to ignore whatever was coming towards him.
我见过他这样 他真的会… He could literally, and I'd seen him do it...
背对听众唱完1、2首歌 turn his back and play a whole song, play two songs.
在舞台上 漫不经心的拨弄乐器 Fiddling around with the equipment on the stage.
不看观众一眼… And never even look at the public...
但完全不影响他对 群众的吸引力 and it doesn't make the slightest bit of difference in the magnetic draw.
似乎无视观众的存在… It's as though the public wasn't even there...
他爱做什么就做什么 他必须改变 he's just going to do what he's going to do, and he has to change.
他必须继续前进 必须增长… And he has to keep moving, and he has to add this and he has to crank the sound.
必须大幅加大声音
如果你跟他共事过 前一晚这首歌是华尔滋节奏… If you ever work with him, if he did this song the night before as a waltz...
今晚会变成2/4拍子 纯粹是在跟你作对 tonight he's gonna do it in 2/4 time, just to fuck you up, you know?
所以，跟这种人合作… And so, with somebody who moves like that...
我现在了解那样很独特… I now see it, that it's very unique...
很令人钦佩 但要跟他合作则极为痛苦 and it's admirable, and it's a pain in the ass if you're trying to work with him.
如果你期待他有别种表现 你会很痛苦 Or it's a pain in the ass if you were expecting something else from him.
如果大家倾听自己的良知… If everybody really listened to his own conscience...
听凭直觉的对错付诸行动… and really acted upon what he thought was right and wrong...
而不是一味的绝望被动… rather than being so hopelessly passive...
我相信大家是这样 which I think just about everybody is.
我认为最主要的疾病可能是… I think it's probably the main disease...
被动，通常别人说什么 我们就听什么 is the passivity, where we will listen to whatever anybody else says.
听从爸爸、妈妈、老师… It's Daddy, and Mommy, and schoolteacher, and Sunday school teacher, and President.
听从主日学老师、总统
哥伦比亚广播公司
这就是越战 This is what the war in Vietnam is all about.
老年人与小朋友 The old and the very young.
陆战队烧了这对老夫妻的茅屋… The Marines have burned this old couple's cottage...
因为火从这里冒出来 because fire was coming from here.
今天的行动 烧毁150座房舍… The day's operation burned down 150 houses...
3名妇女受伤 一名婴儿死亡… wounded three women, killed one baby...
一名陆战队受伤 逮获4名囚犯 wounded one Marine, and netted these four prisoners.
4名听不懂英语的老年人 Four old men who could not answer questions put to them in English.
我感觉到这股政治拉力非常强 I was feeling this political pull very strongly.
我认为我们两个可以合作… And I was thinking what the two of us could do together, you know...
不管是哪一种运动… as far as any kind of movement, and that...
于是我们… 我们的巡回告一段落… And so, we... Our tour had come to an end...
巴布好像这么说： 我们应该去卡内基厅… and Bob said something like: "Hey, we ought to do Carnegie Hall...
“或者其他大型场地” "or some big place like that."
我说： “我们能做什么？” And I said, "What are we going to do with it?"
这句话相当冷酷 And... It was a pretty cold thing to say.
可是我们还是讨论一番… But then we did talk about...
他说他想做他的音乐… you know, that he wanted to do his music and I wanted to do all this other stuff...
但我想做其他的事情…
他说他不想管其他事情… and he said he didn't want to do all that other stuff...
这一点相当清楚 you know, so that was pretty clear.
当然，我很失望 And yeah, I was disappointed.
Oh my name it is nothing
My age it means less
我的意思是 那时，他给了我们最棒的歌曲… I mean, he'd given us, by that point, the greatest songs...
关于反战、公民权等 in our anti-war, civil rights arsenals.
30多年来，我去参加 游行、静坐或静躺… Thirty-some years, whenever I go to a march or a sit-in, or a lie-in...
私人集会或坐政治牢 很多人问： “巴布来吗？” or a be-in, or a jail-in, people'd say, "Is Bob coming?"
我说： “他不曾来，白痴！” I'd say, "He never comes, you moron!"
“你什么时候才懂？ 不懂，以后也不会懂” You know, "When are you going to get it? Never did, probably never will."
所以我认为他… And so I think he...
我认为他写不出 以前那种歌曲… I think he couldn't have written songs like the ones he wrote...
如果他对弱势团体 没有一种概略的感觉 if he didn't feel generally, I think, sort of, for the underdog.
但我不认为他想变成 义无反顾的那种人 But I think that he didn't want to have to be the guy people were going to go to.
后来的时代变成 壁垒分明而且枯燥乏味 I mean, the times then were cut and dry.
要不是赞成战争就是反战 You were either for the war or you were against it.
要不是痛恨黑人 就是支持金恩 You either hated niggers or, you know, you supported King.
感觉被迫选边站 And you were forced to take a side.
选自Don't Look Back 潘诺贝克拍摄
Johnny's in a basement Mixing up the medicine
I'm on the pavement Thinking about the government
The man in the trench coat badge out, laid off
Says he's got a bad cough Wants to get it paid off
Look out kid It's something you did
God knows when But you're doing it again
You better duck down the alleyway
Looking for a new friend
The man in the coon-skin cap In a pig pen
Wants eleven dollar bills You only got ten
Maggie comes fleet foot Face full of black soot
Talking that the heat put plants in the bed but
The phone's tapped anyway Maggie says that many say
They must bust in early May Orders from the D.A.
Look out kid Don't matter what you did
Walk on your tiptoes Don't tie no dose
Better stay away from those That carry around a fire hose
Keep a clean nose Watch the plain clothes
You don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows
语言有它自己的意义 或说它有不同的意义… Words have their own meaning, or they have different meanings...
或者说它的意义会改变 and words change their meaning.
10年前某些字的意义 现在已经改变 Words that meant something 10 years ago don't mean that now.
意义不同了 They mean something else.
Don't steal, don't lift Twenty years of schooling
And they put you on the day shift
Look out kid They keep it all hid
Better jump down a manhole Light yourself a candle
Don't wear sandals Try to avoid the scandals
Don't want to be a bum You better chew gum
The pump don't work 'Cause the vandals took the handles
这首歌… subterranean Homesick Blues Subterranean Homesick Blues. I mean...
我不想独自一人去做 I don't think I would have wanted to do it all by myself.
我想得到更多力量… I thought I'd get more power out of it, you know, with a small group in back of me.
就是有一小群人支持我
我用了电吉他 但这不表示… It was electric, but doesn't necessarily mean...
电吉他就代表现代化 你知道吗？ that it's modernized just because it's electric, you know?
那是，好比… It was, you know, like a...
乡村音乐也用电吉他 Country music was electric, too.
I ain't gonna work
on Maggie's farm no more
这张专辑非常有趣，因为… Bringing lt All Back Home The Bringing It All Back Home session was really fun because...
布鲁斯兰格宏恩
那是种自发性 心灵感应式的东西 it was this sort of spontaneous, telepathic thing, you know?
比如他会很简单的演奏一首歌… Like he might have, you know, played through a song very briefly...
当它就是全部曲目的… and that was all the rehearsal or preparation that anyone had for the songs.
演练和准备
每个人都很厉害 每个人都很有创意… Everyone was really good, everyone was really funky, you know...
大家都很开心 everyone had great time.
大家都了解巴比的歌 And everyone really got behind Bobby's songs.
几乎只是大家聚在一起飙歌… It was almost like just getting together and jamming...
没有任何指令 没有乐谱等等 without any mandate or any charts or anything.
I was riding on the Mayflower when I thought I spied some land
一开始，他独自演奏 He was playing all by himself, at first.
然后他停下来 大家都笑了… And then he stopped and everybody laughed...
2秒钟后，他又开始唱… and then two seconds later, he started it again...
然后大家兴致高昂的 加入他的演唱 and everybody came in just "bang," like gangbusters.
I was riding on the Mayflower when I thought I spied some land
汤姆威尔森-唱片制作人
I yelled for Captain Arab I have you understand
Who came running to the deck Said, "Boys forget the whale
"Look on over yonder Cut the engines change the sail
Haul on the bowline" We sang that melody
Like all tough sailors do When they're far away at sea
整个文化都改变了 I mean, the whole culture has moved and changed.
这就是我们要说的 This is really what we're announcing.
美国和英国 整个文化都改变了 The entire culture, both in America and England has changed.
新世代已经成长 There's a whole new generation that's grown up, everybody.
纽约近代美术馆以及… Do people at the Museum of Modern Art...
大都会博物馆的人知道吗？ and the Metropolitan know about this, do you think?
他们知道文化改变了 新世代已经诞生了吗？ Do they know that culture has changed, that there's a new generation?
他们站在前线… Well, they have been in the foreground...
展示最新的普普艺术
of showing all this new pop art themselves, you know.
沃荷出现在亚伯特厅 他的作品挂在…
Warhol will be there in Albert Hall, and Warhol's on the walls...
马卡斯拍摄 Walden
of the Museum of Modern Art for the last five years.
纽约近代美术馆5年了
出现了新生活的迹象 新的一代… There were signs of new life, of another generation picking up...
积极赶上意识革命 一次不流血革命 a revolution in consciousness. A bloodless revolution.
第一次革命没有流下一滴血 You know, like the first revolution that never shed any blood.
这是很重要的一件事 That was the important thing.
我刚被古巴赶出来… I had just been kicked out of Cuba...
因为私下谈论… for just talking privately...
卡斯楚处决同性恋者 about Castro's persecution of gay people.
然后我到捷克去 被选为五月节之王 Then went to Czechoslovakia, was elected King of May on May Day.
捷克，布拉格市
一星期后被教育部长踢出来… A week later was kicked out by the Minister of Education and deported to London...
送到伦敦…
抵达时恰好赶上 狄伦在亚伯特厅举办音乐会 and then I landed around the time of Dylan's concerts at Albert Hall.
在旅馆里 发生了令人兴奋的一幕… There was a very exciting scene, back at the hotel...
狄伦跟披头四来到大厅 and Dylan was down the hall with the Beatles.
有人送讯息来说 我应该在那里出现 Then a message came that I was supposed to come in there.
我来到那个房间 大家都坐在那里… So I came into the room and everybody was sitting there...
一片死寂，气氛冰冷、僵硬 totally stone-cold silent, frozen, paranoid.
我不太知道我的角色 也不太认识巴布… Not quite knowing my place, knowing Bob...
我在他旁边的椅子坐下 I sat down on the side of his armchair.
约翰蓝侬作弄的说： “怎么不坐靠近一点？” John Lennon said snidely, "Why don't you sit a little closer?"
突然间，我了解到 他们很天真、很年轻 I suddenly realized they were just so naive, they were young.
我笑得倒在约翰的腿上… So I actually, I fell over laughing on to John's lap...
我看着他问道： “你念过威廉布拉克？” Iooking up at him and asked him, "Do you ever read William Blake?"
他说： “没听过” 他太太说： “约翰，不要骗人” He said, "Never heard of him." And his wife said, "Oh, John, stop lying."
然后大家开始笑 于是才打破僵局 Then everybody began laughing, and then the scene sort of broke up.
突破僵局 You know, the ice was broken.
令我惊讶的是 这些位居权力顶层的人… It stuck me as funny that these guys at the summit of power...
心灵力量、音乐力量 世界知名… spiritual power, musical power, world fame...
1965年5月、6月… '65, May... June...
竟然不确定… were so unsure...
他们的内心和言语 of their minds and speech.
不要回头
我觉得观察狄伦很有趣 It interested me just to watch Dylan.
潘尼贝克 I could sort of see that things that he did and said...
我可以了解 他所做的事和所说的话…
这引起了我的兴趣 were interesting to me.
我不知道为何如此感兴趣 所以我决定把它拍成电影 And I didn't know why, and so that got me hooked on making a movie.
-你真的喜欢这首歌？ -对，很好听 - Do you really like that song? - Yeah, it's fantastic.
-喜欢哪一点？ -我只是… - What do you like about it? - I just...
我不喜欢Subterranean Homesick Blues这首歌 I don't like any of the Subterranean Homesick Blues.
你有一点… 好，我现在懂了 Oh, you're that kind of... Okay, see, I understand right now.
我们到一个小镇 没有标志… When we'd go into a town, there would be no sign...
但那里有人 无所事事在阶梯上… and there would be people, kind of, just hanging out at the steps...
等他… waiting for him to...
不是围观 等着看他或要他的签名 And not waiting to crowd around or see him or get his autograph.
纯粹只是等他 Just waiting for him.
这事给你一种感觉 里头有某种东西… And it gave you a feeling that there was some substance that you had to really...
你慢慢才能体会 没办法一眼就看出来 see through, that you weren't going to find out about this quickly.
你必须用他们的眼光来看 But you had to kind of see it the way they did.
In the dime stores and bus stations
People talk over situations
Read books and repeat quotations
Draw conclusions on the wall
Some speak of the future
My love she speaks softly
She knows there's no success like failure
And that failure's no success at all
你真的关心你唱的东西吗？ Do you care about what you sing?
你有胆子问我 我要怎么回答？ How could I answer that if you got the nerve to ask me?
所以你… Well, then you have...
你胆子很大竟敢问我这种问题 I mean, you've got a lot of nerve asking me a question like that.
你敢问披头四吗？ Do you ask the Beatles that?
我必须这样问你 因为你竟然问我是否… I have to ask you that, because you have the nerve to question whether I can...
我不是质问你 因为我没有期待你回答 I'm not questioning you, because I don't expect any answer from you.
如果你不想得到娱乐… But do you think somebody wouldn't go see somebody if they didn't want entertainment?
你会去看某人表演吗？
In the dime stores and bus stations
我们给他看初剪毛片 We showed him the first rough cut.
他看了一定觉得 自己被赤裸裸的呈现… What he saw must have made him look like he was bare bones...
我认为他感到很惊讶 and I think that was a big shock to him.
然后，第二天晚上他看到了… But then he saw, I think the second night, he saw that it was total theater.
整体戏剧手法
他释怀了 It didn't matter.
他像个演员 他突然开始重新创造自己… He was like an actor, and he suddenly had reinvented himself...
当自己是电影里的演员 于是没什么问题 as the actor within this movie, and then it was okay.
那是他擅长的东西 适应事情的现况 That's what he's good at, is getting used to the way things are.
他知道时间会改变一切 I mean, he understands that time changes everything.
他们没打光 不必停止拍摄 They didn't light places, they didn't have to stop filming.
你跑，他们就跑 If you ran, they ran.
你进一个房间 他们也跟着进来 If you went in a room, they went into the room.
到某个阶段 你会变得非常厌烦 And you know, at a certain point, you just became oblivious to that.
我年轻，所以有所期待 I was young, and I had expectations.
哪里有行动我就想参与… And wanted to be where the action was...
那时我不应该在那里 and I should not have been there at that time.
大家都很开心 他们在旅馆房间大闹… Everybody was having a wonderful time and they were all smashing things up...
我是个保守的人 躲在自己房里… in the hotel room, and I was this weird square over in my room...
那种事我做不来 who didn't do all that stuff.
我严词批判参与的每个人 我希望有时间跟巴布相处… I was very critical of everybody who did, and wanted my time with Bob...
因为我认为他是我特别的朋友 然而他已经往前走了 because I thought he was a special friend, and he had moved on.
这感觉很糟 我觉得深深被伤害 And it was awful. I mean, it just hurt like hell.
我想，我自认因为我邀请他 在美国同台演唱… I thought, I assumed, that since I'd invited him on the stage in the States...
他也会邀我跟他同台 他根本没这个意思 he would invite me on the stage there. He had no intention of doing that.
-巴布？ -巴布？ - Bob? - Bob?
他已经准备占据整个舞台 我会这样说 He was ready to have that whole stage all to himself, that's what I'd say.
他不想任何人跟他竞争 He didn't want anybody competing with it.
我只能这样形容 That's as close as I can get.
不让她演奏可能是件傻事… You know, it was probably a stupid thing to do...
可是我没办法一边谈恋爱 一边脑袋还要很聪明… not letting her play, but you can't be wise and in love at the same time, so...
希望她迟早看清楚这点 I hope she'd see the light sooner or later on that.
巴布是我见过 最复杂的人类… Bob is one of the most complex human beings I've ever met...
一开始我以为 我搞懂了这个人，并没有 I think at first I really tried to figure this guy out. No.
我放弃了，所以我不知道 I gave it up, and so I don't know.
我不知道他想什么 只知道他给我们什么 I don't know what he thought about, all I know is what he gave us.
The crash on the highway threw the car into a field
Turn, turn, turn again
Four people killed with him at the wheel
选自Don't Look Back 潘尼贝克拍摄 Turn, turn to the rain And the wind
诗句不断涌来 我看着他写下来… The poetry, it tumbles out. And I watched him write...
或打字或书写 然后就完成了 at the typewriter or writing... It's done.
记得那首烂歌吗？ Do you remember that goddamn song?
That love is just a four-letter word
我没有写完吧？ 没有，我没有完成 I never finished that song. Did I? No, I never finished it.
天啊！ Oh, God!
你写了8种版本 - You finished it about eight different ways. - Did I?
是吗？
我偷走Four Letter Word 偷偷练习，然后唱出来… I stole Four Letter Word, I took that and disappeared with it, and sang it...
后来巴布知道 是在收音机上听到的 and I think the next Bob knew about it, he heard it on the radio.
我跟他一起在 收音机里听到，他说… I was with him when he heard it on the radio and he was listening, he said:
“这首歌真好” "That's a great song."
这首歌真好 他不记得是他写的 That's a great song. He didn't remember he had written it.
我说： “是你写的，笨蛋” I said, "You wrote it, you dope."
Strange it is to be beside you Strange it is to be beside you
Many years of tables turned
You'd probably not believe me if I told you all I've learned
And it is very very weird indeed
To hear words like forever and free
So ships run through my mind I cannot cheat
It's like looking in the teacher's face complete
I can say nothing to you but repeat
What I heard
That love is just a four-letter
Love is just a four-letter
Love is just a four-letter word
Hey Mr. Tambourine Man
伯兹合唱团 Play a song for me
I'm not sleepy
And there ain't no place I'm going to
我的很多歌 变成别人的畅销曲 A lot of my songs, they were becoming hits for other people.
其中有，柏德有畅销曲 There was, the Byrds had a big hit.
有个叫乌龟的团体也畅销 Some group called the Turtles had some hit.
桑尼和雪儿也唱红我的一首歌 Sonny and Cher had a hit with a song of mine.
大家开始写些叮叮噹噹的歌曲… People were sort of writing a jingly-jangly kind of song...
似乎跟我有某种关联 我说， “好吧…” which seemed to have something to do with me, I, you know, like, "okay..."
I Got Me，Babe 算是根据我写的东西改编的 You know, I Got Me, Babe, is some kind of take-off of me, something I wrote.
我不知道它到底 根据我写的什么改编 Well, I don't know what it was a take-off on that I wrote, you know?
我不喜欢那种声音… I didn't really like that sound...
或者所谓民谣摇滚 我不觉得它跟我有什么关系 or folk-rock, whatever that was, I didn't feel that had anything to do with me.
这事使我思考 排行榜的排名和歌曲… It got me thinking about the Billboard charts and the songs...
因为它愈来愈流行 之前我没有考虑过 which become popular, which I hadn't thought of that before.
Once upon a time you dressed so fine
You threw the bums a dime in your prime, didn't you?
我发觉我写了这首歌 这个故事… I found myself writing this song, this story...
巴布狄伦的声音 蒙特娄市电台
我吐出了20页的长篇大论，从中… this long piece of vomit, 20 pages long, and out of it...
我选了Like A Rolling Stone 出版单曲… I took Like A Rolling Stone, and made it as a single...
我以前没写过这种东西 and I'd never written anything like that before.
突然间 我了解我应该写这种东西 And it suddenly came to me that was what I should do.
写过之后，我对写小说 或剧本再也没有兴趣 After writing that, I wasn't interested in writing a novel or a play or anything.
我知道我受够了 我想写歌 Like I knew I just had too much, I wanted to write songs.
About having to scrounge
Your next meal
麦克布隆菲尔
麦克布隆菲尔说 他听过我的第一张唱片… Mike Bloomfield said he had heard my first record...
他想教我怎么弹蓝调… and said he wanted to show me how the blues were played...
我觉得不太有竞争力… and I didn't feel much competitive...
我不是他的对手 他可以把任何人比下去… I didn't feel much competitive with him, he could outplay anybody, even at that...
即使在当时 at that point, you know.
但等到因为出唱片找吉他手时… But when it was time to bring in a guitar player on my record...
除了他我想不到其他人 I couldn't think of anybody but him.
他是我听过的最佳吉他手 I mean, he just was the best guitar player I ever heard.
巴布，大家都到了 开始录，然后… Okay, Bob. We've got everybody here, let's do one. And then...
制作人汤姆威尔森 邀我去录音 A producer named Tom Wilson invited me to a recording session.
当时我21岁，野心勃勃… And me being 21 years old and incredibly ambitious...
艾尔库柏
我是巴布的大歌迷 我决定进去参一角 and a big Bob Dylan fan, I decided I was going to play on that session.
另一个吉他手已经就坐 正在热身… There was another guitar player who sat down, and was warming up...
他比我厉害多了 and just was playing far beyond my abilities.
原来就是麦克布隆菲尔 And he turned out to be Mike Bloomfield.
我收起吉他 回到我该进去的控制室 I packed up my guitar, and I went into the control room where I belonged.
前面几个钟头录完之后 他们请… After the first couple of hours of the session, they moved...
风琴手去弹钢琴 the organ player over to piano.
我说： “机会又来了” And I said, "Well, here's another chance for me."
于是我跟汤姆威尔森说… So I said to Tom Wilson:
我来弹风琴好吗？ "Why don't you let me play the organ?
“我弹得很好” 其实我在臭盖 "I got a great part for this," which was total bullshit.
汤姆威尔森说： 你根本不会弹风琴 And Tom Wilson said, "Oh, man, you don't play the organ.
“你是吉他手” "You're a guitar player."
我说： “这个我很拿手 我会弹” I said, "I got a really good part for this, I can play it."
他说： “艾尔” He said, "Al."
这时刚好有人来找他… And just then someone came and got him...
有人打电话来找他 to take a phone call that came in for him.
所以他没说不 So he didn't say no.
Like a Rolling Stone重编 第一次录 Like a Rolling Stone, remake, Take One.
你在干嘛？ What are you doing there?
那时他可以把我赶走… At that point, he really could have just busted me...
赶回录音室去 and got me back in the control room.
但他是个慈祥的人 没跟我争论 But he was a very gracious man. And so he let it go.
于是我开始弹 And so I began to play.
歌词部份，一开始 我老是… In the verses, in the beginning, you hear me come in...
比乐团晚1/8拍进来 always an eighth note behind the band.
为了让我弹出正确和弦… To make sure that I played the right chord...
乐团会这样弹… 然后我这样 the band would go... And I'd go like that.
像这样 Like that.
他们开始回应 They started playing it back.
弹了一两句后 巴布跟汤姆威尔森说… After about a verse or two, Bob said to Tom Wilson.;
“风琴大声一点” "Hey, turn the organ up."
汤姆跟巴布说： 不行 那家伙不是风琴手 And Tom Wilson said to Bob, "Oh, man, that guy's not an organ player.
“他只是…” "He's just..."
巴布说： “我不管，风琴大声点” And then Bob said, "I don't care, turn the organ up."
巴布狄伦-Like a Rolling Stone
Once upon a time you dressed so fine threw the bums a dime in your prime
didn't you?
People'd call, say, "Beware doll, you're bound to fall"
You thought they were all kidding you
Screen Test：巴布狄伦 安迪沃荷1965年拍摄
You used to laugh about
Everybody that was hanging out
Now you don't talk so loud
Now you don't seem so proud
About having to be scrounging
your next meal
How does it feel
To be without a home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone
突破了某种东西 Like a Rolling Stone Like a Rolling Stone definitely broke through somewhere.
我不觉得收音机 播放过这种歌 I didn't feel like radio had ever played a song like that before.
我知道我不曾听过这种歌 I know I'd never heard a song like that before.
所以… So...
我当时的作为… And everything I'd done up to that point had led up to...
让我写出那种歌，完全不费力 writing a song like that, just effortlessly.
我记得原始Like a Rolling Stone 大约有50句歌词 Like a Rolling Stone originally had about 50-some verses, as I recall.
现在的人认为它很长… And people who think it's long now, you know...
你应该看看还没剪辑前的样子 should have had a look at it when it was raw.
我认为他创作出 他真正想创作的作品… I think he always made exactly the works that he wanted to make...
当他想创作时 听众自动找上了他 At the time he wanted to make it. The audience came to Bob.
这就是他在美国音乐史上… And that's one of the things that makes him so unique...
独特的地方 听众会自动找上巴布狄伦 in the history of American music, is the audience came to Bob Dylan.
我不是那种表演者… I've never been that kind of performer...
想变成群众一份子那种表演者 that wants to be one of them, you know, like one of the crowd.
我不跟听众拉近距离 I don't try to endear myself that way.
表演者喜欢掌声？ 是，是或不是 Now, do performers look for applause? Yeah, yes and no.
决定于你是哪种表演者 It really depends what kind of performer you are.
好比比莉哈乐蒂的故事… Like the story of Billie Holiday, you know...
她第一次唱Strange Fruit时 没有人鼓掌 when she sang Strange Fruit for the first time, nobody applauded.
你可以让人如痴如醉… You know, you could leave somebody kind of in a spellbound way and...
舞台上有表演者… I don't know. There's a lot of things going on...
底下有听众 很多事都在进行着 when there's a performer on stage and there's an audience out there.
新港民谣节-1965年7月
那个周末，我女儿出生 That weekend, my daughter had been born.
皮特西格录下她的声音 他将它播放出来 Pete Seeger had made a recording of her. And he played it.
演唱会在周日晚上的新港展开… He opened the night on Sunday night at Newport...
《民谣节》默瑞勒纳拍摄
and he played this little recording of a new baby, he says.;
他播放小婴儿的录音 他说…
这是第一首民谣 第一个声音… "Here's the first folk song, the first voice...
约翰柯汉 "and we're dedicating this festival and this music and our purposes..."
我们将这庆典、这音乐 我们的目的…
“献给这个新生儿 以及她将成长的新世界” "to this new child, and the new world that she's going to grow up in."
这真是，你知道… 当晚就这么展开 And that was kind of, you know... That's the way the evening began.
下午我在闲晃 艾尔葛洛斯曼把我拉到一边… I was walking around in the afternoon and Albert Grossman took me aside...
他说： “巴布在找你” and said, "Bob is looking for you."
他带我去找巴布，巴布说： 我星期天要演唱… And he took me to Bob and Bob said, "I want to play Sunday night...
“我想重现专辑里的风貌” "and try and reproduce what we did on the album. "
我说… And I said:
“可以，听起来很不错” "Okay. Sounds great."
各位先生、女士… Ladies and gentlemen...
彼得亚罗
即将上台的人… the person that's going to come up now...
他的时间有限 has a limited amount of time.
他就是巴布狄伦 His name is Bob Dylan.
I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more
No, I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more
Well, I try my best to be just like I am
But everybody wants you to be just like them
They say sing while you slave I just get bored
I ain't gonna work on Maggie's farm no more
他唱那首歌： “我再也不在玛姬的农场工作” He sang that song, "I ain't going to work on Maggie's farm no more. "
我说： 你听 他在唱老歌Penny's Farm… I said, "Hey look, he's taking that old Penny's Farm...
“别有一番风味 非常好听” "and putting it somewhere else. That's terrific."
我觉得很有趣 I thought that was interesting.
但蓝调乐团的声音太大… But the volume of the blues band was kind of wild...
歌词听不太清楚 and you couldn't get the words too clearly.
I ain't gonna work for Maggie's ma no more
No, I ain't gonna work for Maggie's ma no more
Well, she talks to all the servants about man and God and law
Everybody says she's the brains behind pa
She's 72 but she says she's 24
I ain't gonna work for Maggie's ma no more
亲密感的分享绝对比不上… It was not possible to share the kind of intimacy...
民谣音乐… that we were sharing with folk music...
电子乐器一旦弹奏出来 when you've got those electric instruments going.
鼓声也加进来 大家的音量都得提高 The moment you've got drums there, everything has got to come up in level.
声音相当尖锐 The sound was a bit harsh.
但我们觉得很酷 But we thought it was way cool.
我们注意到的是… And what we noticed was...
3分之1的观众发出嘘声 这是没听过的事… about a third of the audience was booing, which was unheard of...
从来没发生过… not in all our days of seeing...
我们不曾看过这种表演 whatever kind of show had we ever seen that.
记得我了解的是 毒品、酒精不好… I remember understanding that drugs were bad and alcohol was bad...
摇滚乐是邪恶的 性也是不好的 and rock 'n' roll was wicked and sex was bad.
所以我心想： “天啊，多严重的堕落” And so I thought, "Oh, my goodness, how depraved this is all getting."
All right!
我想有人在大喊… I was thinking that somebody was shouting, "Are you with us? Are you with us?"
“你跟我们站在一起吗？你是吗？”
我不明白… And, you know, I don't know what that, you know, like...
那是什么意思？ What was that supposed to mean?
我不知道他们为什么嘘 I had no idea why they were booing.
我不觉得有人对歌曲… I don't think anybody was there having a negative response to those...
有负面反应 songs, though.
不管是什么事 应该都跟… I mean, whatever it was about, it wasn't about...
他们听到的东西无关 anything that they were hearing.
Well, he hands you a nickel Hands you a dime
Asks you with a grin if you're having a good time
And he fines you every time you slam the door
I ain't gonna work for Maggie's brother no more
歌词听不懂 You could not understand the words.
皮特西格 And I was frantic. I said, "Get that distortion out."
我很紧张，我说： “不要扭曲声音”
太刺耳，歌词听不懂 It was so raspy, you could not understand a word.
我跑到声控系统那： “不要扭曲巴布的声音” And I ran over to the sound system, "Get that distortion out of Bob's voice."
“不行，他们喜欢听这样” "No, this is the way they want to have it."
我说： 该死，很难听 根本听不懂 I said, "God damn it, it's terrible. You can't understand it.
“如果我有把斧头 我会切断麦克风的电线” "If I had an axe, I'd chop the mike cable right now."
Oh, you've gone to the finest school all right, Miss Lonely
but you know you only used to get juiced in it
Nobody's ever taught you how to live out on the street
And now you're gonna have to get used to it
我们回到后台 已经乱成一片 We ran backstage and there was mayhem going on.
皮特西格、席多比凯 所有这些老禁卫军… Pete Seeger and Theodore Bikel and all the old guard...
老左派份子 抗议歌曲派系份子… the old leftist, protest-singing factions...
全都吓坏了，心想： “这是流行音乐，不是民谣” were horrified and thought: "This is pop music, this isn't folk music."
后台已经大打出手… And there was just a big battle raging backstage and...
我知道皮特西格有把斧头… Pete, I understand Pete Seeger had an axe...
他正要把电线切断 也不得不… and was going to go cut the electric cables and had to be...
退缩… you know, subdued...
席多比凯说： 这就是年轻人要的！ and Theodore Bikel was saying, "This is what the young people want!
“我们必须顺势改变 这就是正在发生的事” "We have to go with the change, this is what's happening now."
于是他们自己也发生争执 So they were all arguing among themselves.
西格… Seeger...
保罗尼逊
因为各种报导，非常生气 from all reports, was very upset by this.
我听说他想切断电线 他上了车… And I had heard that he tried to cut the wires and that he'd gone into a car...
事情过后还不肯出来 and wouldn't come out after this whole thing.
那不是我的诠释… That's not my interpretation. You see...
皮特的爸爸查理西格也在场… Pete's father was there, Charlie Seeger...
他带着助听器 因为他听不清楚… and he had a hearing aid, and Charlie was very distressed...
非常沮丧 when he couldn't hear things clearly.
声音从喇叭传出来… And with all this sound coming from the speakers...
查理西格相当生气 我想这点影响了皮特 Charlie Seeger was quite upset. And I think that affected Pete.
You used to ride the chrome horse with your diplomat
Who carried on his shoulder a Siamese cat
Ain't it hard when you discover that
He really wasn't where it's at
After he's taken from you
everything he could steal
How does it feel?
摇滚乐被很多民谣歌迷 当作一种背叛… Rock 'n' roll was considered a real sellout music for a lot of folk fans...
似乎当面给时事歌曲… Like a Rolling Stone and Like a Rolling Stone seemed like the direct slap in the face...
代表的所有意义一记耳光 to everything that topical songs represented.
“孤单的感觉是什么” 他们都认为是… "How does it feel to be on your own." And they took it as this most...
最负面的… extremely negative...
你知道… you know...
自私的呈述 基本上它不是… selfish statement, basically, and it was, you know, it was not...
它并不是 Better World A-Coming Better World A-Coming, you know, it was not that.
走吧，结束了 Let's go, man. That's all.
我以为他会再出来 单独唱点别的东西，然后… I thought he would go out and play some other stuff by himself and then...
我们会出场唱这3首歌 we'd come out and play these three songs.
但我们正要出来唱这3首歌时… But we just came out and played these three songs and then...
他说： “晚安” he said, "Goodnight."
我们总共唱了15分钟… And we'd been out there for a total of 15 minutes...
别人都唱一个小时 and everybody else had played for an hour.
这情况很诡异 但他是主角 So that was pretty weird. And he was the headliner.
巴比，能不能再唱一首歌？ Bobby, can you do another song, please?
他去拿吉他 He's going to get his axe.
马上出来 He's coming.
巴比震撼不已 我跑去后台… Bobby was terribly shaken and I ran backstage...
他跟我说： “你对我做了什么？” and he said to me, "What have you done to me?"
彼得亚罗出来说： 大家冷静一下… Peter Yarrow came out and said, "Okay, everybody calm down...
“巴布去拿他的木吉他” "Bob's gone to get his acoustic guitar."
然后每个人… And everybody...
The highway is for gamblers
better use your sense
Take what you have gathered
from coincidence
The empty-handed painter from your streets
Is drawing crazy patterns
on your sheets
The sky, too, is folding over you
And it's all over now
Baby Blue
我听到谣传 皮特要切断电线 I'd heard a rumor that Pete was going to cut the cable.
我后来才听说 对我来说没有道理 And I heard it later, you know. And it was like, it didn't make sense to me.
我这么珍惜皮特西格的音乐 Like, Pete Seeger, like someone whose music I cherish, you know.
我这么尊敬的人 想要切断电线 Like someone who I highly respect is going to cut the cable.
我说： “天啊” 这就像… It was like, "Oh, God." It was like...
就像一把匕首… It was like a dagger, you know, it was...
光是用想的… Just the thought of it was, you know...
就让我想出去买醉 made me go out and get drunk.
Strike another match
Go start anew
And it's all over now
Baby Blue
记得当晚稍后我看到巴布… I remember seeing Bob later on that evening...
他显得有点沮丧 虽然他没有… Iooking kind of blue, as though he hadn't...
没有把想说的重点 清楚表达出来 Hadn't made the point that he wanted to make properly.
他不想觉得被绑手绑脚 He didn't want to feel that he was limited here or limited there.
他想跟巴特菲尔蓝调乐团 合作点东西 He wanted to do something with the Butterfield Blues Band.
那样很好 And it was great.
那场音乐会后 节庆人员每晚举办派对 Every night, after the concerts, the festival people would have a party.
巴布坐在角落… And Bob was sitting in the corner, I guess, thinking about what had happened.
我猜他在想 到底发生了什么事
我说： “巴布，要跳舞吗？” I said, "Hey, Bob. Do you want to dance?" And he looked up at me and said:
他看着我说…
“玛丽亚，我想跟你跳舞 但我的手着火了” "I'd dance with you, Maria, but my hands are on fire."
那是种心照不宣的说法 但我想… And it's sort of like... That was a cryptic remark, but I kind of knew...
我了解他的意思 exactly what he meant, you know. So I said, "Okay, man," and I just left him alone.
我说： “没关系” 然后丢下他一人
我们要狄伦！ We want Dylan!
两个月后 他在林丘举办演唱会 A couple of months later, he played Forest Hills.
前半段用传统木吉他 后半段唱摇滚 There, the first half was acoustic, the second half was rock 'n' roll.
用电吉他那段： 安静点，嘘声不断 The electric half.; silence, booing.
电吉他那段 至少有15、20个年轻人跑上舞台 At least 15, 20 kids ran on the stage through the whole electric set.
有人一首歌跑上台2、3次… There would be somebody, two, three times during a number...
其实是在舞台上跳 穿梭在乐手之间 actually jumping on the stage and running around amongst the musicians.
观众的敌意很强 And an incredible animosity in the audience.
那是唯一一场音乐会… I think it was the only concert I have ever been at where...
我感到敌意 强到令人觉得有威胁性… that animosity was that strong and you actually felt a little threatened...
如果你在期间拍手的话 if you applauded during this, which I did.
林丘演唱会第一首歌 就是Like a Rolling Stone When we played Forest Hills, Like a Rolling Stone was number one.
演奏这首歌时… And so when we played Like a Rolling Stone...
嘘声停了 他们跟我们一起唱 they stopped booing and sang along.
唱完后嘘声又开始 And then when we finished they started booing again.
我觉得很棒 I thought that was great.
我很陶醉 但在演唱会后的派对… I enjoyed that. But at the party after the show...
巴布跑过来拥抱我们 他说… Bob came running up to us and gave us big hugs, he said.;
“太棒了，感觉真好 好像嘉年华会” "That was fabulous. It was great. It was like a carnival. "
很棒，他很喜欢那场演唱会 It was fantastic. He really enjoyed the show.
嘘声不真的是… 我对嘘声有个看法… The booing didn't really, you know... I had a perspective on the booing.
因为你得知道 慈悲也可以杀死人 Because you got to realize you can kill somebody with kindness, too.
God said to Abraham, "Kill me a son"
Abe said, "Man, you must be putting me on"
God say, "No" Abe say, "What?"
God say, "You can do what you want, Abe, but
"Next time you see me coming you better run"
Well, Abe says, "Where do you want this killing done?"
God says, "Out on Highway 61"
我走进录音室 他坐在角落… I walked in the studio and he was out there in a corner...
强斯顿-唱片制作人
我走上前说： “巴布，我是强斯顿” and I walked up and I said, "Bob, I'm Bob Johnston."
他笑着说： “你好吗？” He said, "How you doing?" And he smiled at me.
我只记得狄伦这样 然后开始唱… All I remember is Dylan doing that and starting in...
之后的事情我都忘了 and from that moment, I really have no memory.
没人帮狄伦数过拍子… Nobody ever counted off for Dylan...
他永远率性而为 he always did what the fuck he wanted to.
我录的声音一直不错 他好像喜欢这种声音 And I always just got the sound pretty well. And he seemed to love the sound.
You walk into the room With your pencil in your hand
You see somebody naked And you say, "Who is that man?"
我被这股旋风逮住… I was just caught in this whirlwind of...
跟这个永恒的声音 结下不解之缘… You know, of being tacked on to this music that was going to be forever...
我知道它是不朽的 and being involved in it. And knowing that it was going to be forever.
Because something is happening here
But you don't know what it is
这音乐被自由改变 The music actually changed by, I think, the word is freedom.
所有事都在改变 以前一次录4首歌 Everything was changing. It wasn't like four songs a session.
不管时间 我把时钟都拿下来 There wasn't any clock. I took all the clocks down.
谁都不管时间 Nobody had a fucking clock in there.
随性“玩点音乐” “这个怎么样？这怎么样？” It's just like, "Play some music." "What about this thing? What about this?"
我们录86845，第一首 We're recording 86845. Number one.
Einstein, disguised as Robin Hood
With his memories in his trunk
Passed this way an hour ago
With his friend, a jealous monk
我相信不能埋没有功的人 I believe in giving credit where credit's due.
我认为狄伦跟这没关系 I don't think Dylan had a lot to do with it.
我认为 上帝没有触摸他的肩膀… I think God, instead of touching him on the shoulder...
反而踢了他的屁股 he kicked him in the ass. Really!
那就是他的动力来源 他是身不由己 And that's where all that came from. He can't help what he's doing.
我的意思是说 他有圣灵在督促他 I mean, he's got the Holy Spirit about him.
看着他你就会明白 You can look at him and tell that.
Well, I ride a mailtrain, baby
Can't buy no thrill
笑需要费尽心机 哭则只需坐上火车 It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It Takes a Train to Cry.
其实这一段有两个版本 第一个版本… In fact, there was two versions of that cut. The first version...
出现在私制唱片 节奏比较快… which turned up on bootlegs, it was like a fast...
快很多，而且比较调皮… It was a much faster and much more jivey version...
听起来跟以前的作品很像 that sounded kind of a lot like the other things that had been done.
这首歌到底该怎么办？ What the fuck are we doing with this song, man?
这首歌并不难 It's not such a terrible song to do.
他说： “休息一下” Then he said, "Let's take a break."
他叫大家出去 他说当作午休什么都可以 And he sent everybody off. And he said it was a lunch break or whatever.
大家出去一小时 People went out for an hour.
他独自坐在钢琴前奋斗… He was sitting alone at the piano working over...
弹几个和弦 随手写下一些草稿 just play a few chords and he'd scribble something down.
他们回来后又重来一次… And they came back and they did that other take...
午休回来之后 就是专辑里慢多了… after the lunch break and it was, like the much slower, bluesier version...
更像蓝调的版本 整个风格都变了… you hear on the album, and it's really changed the whole character...
感觉也不一样 真的很好听 and the feel of the song. It was really, really nice.
Well, I ride on a mailtrain, baby
Can't buy a thrill
巴布狄伦-HIGHWAY 61 REVISITED
我想知道你专辑的封面 I'd like to know about the cover of your album.
我想知道… I'd like to know about...
你照片上穿胜利T恤 的意义 the meaning of the photograph of you and the wearing of the Triumph t-shirt.
你想知道什么？ What did you want to know about it?
旧金山-1965年12月 Well, I'd like to know if that's an equivalent photograph...
我想知道这张照片…
是不是有哲学义涵？ it means something. It's got a philosophy in it.
视觉上它代表你哪一点？ And I'd like to know, visually, what it represents to you.
因为你是其中一部份 Because you're a part of that.
我不曾仔细看 我没有认真… I haven't really looked at it that much. I don't really...
我倒想了很多 I've thought about it a great deal.
只是某一天坐在阶梯上拍的 It was just taken one day, when I was sitting on the steps, you know.
我真的不记得了 I don't really remember.
我并没想太多 I don't worry too much about it.
那摩托车在你歌词中的 代表意义呢？ But what about the motorcycle as an image in your songwriting?
你好像很喜欢 You seem to like that.
我们多少都喜欢摩托车吧 - Oh, we all like motorcycles to some degree. - I do.
我喜欢
你比较喜欢歌词的意义委婉的表达 还是明白的说出来？ Do you prefer songs with a subtle or obvious message?
-用什么？ -委婉还是直说它的义涵 - With a what? - A subtle or obvious message.
义涵，你的意思是… 哪首歌的义涵？ With a message, you mean like... What song with a message?
比如Eve of Destruction这种歌 Well like Eve of Destruction and things like that.
跟什么东西比较？ Do I prefer that to what?
我不知道，但你的歌 应该有委婉的义涵 I don't know, but your songs are supposed to have a subtle message.
-委婉的义涵 -应该有的啊 - A subtle message? - Well, they're supposed to.
你从哪里听来的？ Where'd you hear that?
-在电影杂志看到的 -天啊 - In a movie magazine. - Oh, my God!
你认为你比较偏向 歌手还是诗人？ Do you think of yourself primarily as a singer or as a poet?
我觉得自己比较像歌舞表演者 I think of myself more as a song-and-dance man, you know.
狄伦先生，我知道 你很有理由不喜欢被贴标签… Mr. Dylan, I know you dislike labels and probably rightly so...
但为我们这批30多岁的人… but for those of us who are well over 30...
你愿意为自己贴标签 并告诉我们你的角色吗？ could you label yourself and perhaps tell us what your role is?
我可以为自己贴上 30岁以下的标签 Well, I sort of label myself as well under 30.
我的角色就是 尽可能在这里撑下去 And my role is to, you know, to just stay here as long as I can.
许多人把你看作… You're considered by many people to be...
我国抗议运动的象征… symbolic of the protest movement in the country...
尤其在年轻人心中 for the young people.
尤其在年轻人心中 For the young people.
你会不会参加… Are you going to participate in...
今晚在派拉蒙饭店前… the Vietnam Day Committee demonstration in front of the Paramount Hotel tonight?
举办的越南日委员会示威
我今晚很忙 I'll be busy tonight.
情况失控了 Things had gotten out of hand.
结果变成… You know, it fell into the...
你问我为什么写不切实际的歌… You know, you ask me why I write surreal songs...
这类活动就是不切实际 or whatever, I mean that type of activity is surreal.
那些问题我跟其他表演者一样… I had no answers to any of those questions...
都没有答案，真的 any more than any other performer did, really.
但，这还是阻止不了… But, you know, that didn't stop...
所谓媒体这些人… the press or people or whoever they were...
问这种问题 媒体这些人以为… from asking these questions. They, for some reason the press thought...
表演者能回答所有… that performers had the answers to all these...
社会问题和… problems in the society and...
你怎么能… you know, like what can...
这种事你能说什么？ 真的很荒谬 What can you say to something like that? I mean, it's just kind of absurd.
菲尔欧克在最近的 《抨击杂志》上写了篇文章… Phil Ochs wrote something in a recent Broadside Magazine...
其中谈到… to the effect that...
你惹怒了一堆人 让他感觉情况变得… you have twisted so many people's wigs that he feels that it becomes...
公开在观众面前表演 对你愈来愈危险 increasingly dangerous for you to perform in public before an audience.
情况就是这样 Well, that's the way it goes, you know.
我当然不能道歉 I can't apologize, certainly.
你觉得部份民众对你的认同… Do you feel that part of the popularity is because of an identification...
是因为观众对你或者针对… of your audience with you or with...
你说的话或你写的东西吗？ what you're saying or what you've been writing about?
我不知道 I have no idea.
狄伦先生，你似乎很不愿意谈论… Mr. Dylan, you seem very reluctant to talk about the fact...
你是公共表演者的事实 而且是最受欢迎的表演者 that you're a popular entertainer, and you're a most popular entertainer.
-你希望我说什么？ -我不知道为什么… - What do you want me to say? - Well, I don't understand why you...
你希望我说什么？ Well, what do you want me to say about it?
你几乎尴尬得不愿意承认… 谈论… Well, you seem almost embarrassed to admit that you're... To talk about...
我并不尴尬，你知道 Well, I'm not embarrassed, I mean, you know.
你到底希望我说什么？ What do you want exactly for me to say?
你希望我跳起来说： “哈利路亚”然后砸毁摄影机… Do you want me to jump up and say, "Hallelujah" and crash the cameras...
或做些奇怪的事？说啊 and do something weird? Tell me.
我会配合你 I'll go along with you.
如果我配合不来 我会找个人配合你 If I can't go along with you, I'll find somebody to go along with you.
不用，但我发现 你真的不知道… No, but I find that... You really have no idea...
为什么或想不通为什么 你那么受欢迎？ as to why, or no thoughts on why you're popular?
-我对这点很有兴趣 -我已经… - That's what interests me. - I just have...
我不曾为此事挣扎 我不… I haven't really struggled for that. I don't...
它是自然发生的 It happened, you know.
就像发生其他事情一样 It happened like anything else happens.
洛杉矶一周后
有多少人努力… How many people who labor...
跟你在同一个音乐园地里耕耘… in the same musical vineyard in which you toil...
有多少抗议歌手？ how many are protest singers?
也就是，运用他们的音乐 他们的歌曲… That is, people who use their music and use the songs...
抗议我们现在生活的社会状态 to protest the social state in which we live today.
不管是战争、犯罪 或其它各种事件 The matter of war, the matter of crime, or whatever it might be.
-有多少？ -对 - How many? - Yes.
-是不是很多人… -是 - Are there many who... - Yeah.
大概有136人 I think there's about 136.
-你说： “大概136人” -对 - You say, "about 136"? - Yeah.
你的意思是136人 Or do you mean exactly 136?
不是136人就是142人 It's either 136 or 142.
在某个阶段，人们对我抱持 扭曲、变形的看法… At a certain point, people seemed to have a distorted, warped view of me...
因为某种原因 这些人通常都是… for some reason, and those people were usually...
音乐圈外的人 outside of the musical community.
“当代的发言人” "The spokesman of the generation."
这个或那个所谓“良知” "The conscience of a..." This, and that and the other.
这我无法认同 完全无法认同 That I could not relate to. I just couldn't relate to it.
只要能继续做我想做的事… As long as I could continue doing what it is that I loved to do...
我不在乎被贴上什么标签… I didn't care what kinds of labels were put on me...
不管媒体怎么看我… or how I was perceived in the press because I was playing to people every night.
因为我每晚为听众演唱
我在好莱坞运动场演唱 I played at the Hollywood Bowl.
后来我离开那个组织 Then I left the organization.
收到行程我吓到了… I actually was frightened when I got the tour itinerary...
我发现要去达拉斯演唱… to see that we were going to play Dallas where...
他们刚刺杀了总统 they had just killed the President.
我心想： 如果他们 不喜欢那家伙… And I thought, you know: "If they didn't like that guy...
“他们对这家伙有何看法？” "what are they going to think of this guy?"
我不想变成… And I didn't want to, you know, I didn't want to be...
约翰康纳莱的翻版 the analogy to John Connally.
不想步他的后尘 I didn't want to be the guy next to him.
I started out on Burgundy But soon hit the harder stuff
罗比罗伯森
里查曼纽
Everybody said they'd stand behind me
瑞克丹可
When the game got rough
这次同行的同伴 后来变成我的乐团… The guys that were with me on that tour, which later became The Band...
我们一直在一起 you know, we were all in it together.
加斯哈德森
我们一起把头伸进狮子嘴巴… We were putting our heads in the lion's mouth and...
我很佩服他们跟我一起冒险 I had to admire them for sticking it out with me.
我的书里有写 光是站在我背后… Just for doing it, in my book, they were, you know, gallant knights for even...
已经很有骑士精神 you know, standing behind me.
米奇琼斯 By the time we got to England, it was out of control.
到英国的时候 情况失控了
我不知道口碑是不是… And I don't know if word of mouth...
已经先传到了… preceded our concert tour...
但的确相当具有革命性 事实上是… but it really was pretty revolutionary, in the fact that...
这里有个以前深受喜爱的人… here was someone who everyone loved...
后来变成不喜欢他 and they didn't like what he was doing.
他们会直接表达出来 And they were showing it.
这些舞台是建来给艺人… These stages were created for people who stood on stage...
朗读莎士比亚戏剧的 and recited Shakespearean plays.
不是针对我们这种音乐 They weren't made for this kind of music we were playing.
声音古色古香 The sound was pretty archaic, really.
声音实在不太完美 The sound really hadn't been perfected. The sound quality hadn't been perfected...
声音品质本来就不完美…
这么多年后 many years after that.
音乐会上半场 是巴布狄伦的独角戏… The first half of the concert was Bob Dylan alone...
木吉他加口琴 acoustic and harmonica.
下半场则大肆喧哗 的确很吵、很卖力 When we kicked off the second half, I mean, we did kick ass and take names.
吸引每个人的注意力 And we got everyone in there's attention.
他们感觉到我们的到来 They knew that we had arrived.
因为他们是木吉他的歌迷… Because they were such fans of his acoustic set...
当我们带电子设备进场时… that when we came in and did the electric set...
话先前已传到我耳朵… people have said the word to me that...
他是民谣、纯音乐的叛徒 he was a traitor to folk music. The pure music.
我差不多受够了 已经忍受够多… And I'd just about had it, though. I'd had it with the...
这种场面 with the whole scene.
不知道自己清不清楚 我正打算… And I was... Whether I knew it or didn't know it, I was looking...
休息一阵子 to just quit for a while.
场面怎么样？ 你怎么应付？ What about the scene? What had you had it with?
那场面你觉得很厌烦吗？ What about the scene were you sick of?
像你这种人，像… Well, you know, people like you. People like, you know...
受压迫的人… like, just, you know, like just being pressed...
受打压的人… and hammered and, you know, expected to answer questions. You know...
被期待去回答这些问题…
我想任何人都会厌烦 What can I... You know, like... It was enough to make anybody sick, really.
OI' black Bascom, don't break no mirrors
Cold black water dog, make no tears
You say you love me with what may be love
Don't you remember making baby love?
Got your steam drill now you're
lookin' for some kid to get it to work for you
like your nine-pound hammer did
But I know that you know that
I know that you show something is
tearing up your mind
Tell me, momma
Tell me, momma, what is it?
What's wrong with you this time?
他是个骗子
低级！ He's cheap!
神经病
只有半场音乐会 一半鱼目混珠 And having a half concert. Half one and half the other.
骗子，伪君子！ Fake, hypocrite!
没错 That's what he is.
Everybody's wondering when your
friendship's gonna end but
Come on, baby, I'm your friend
And I know that you know that I know
that you show something
Is tearing up your mind
-垃圾 -垃圾，废物 - Crap. - Crap. Rubbish.
-纯粹废物 -可悲 - Complete rubbish. - Pathetic.
白痴 Moronic.
我们买票看出言不逊的歌手 不是一大群人 We paid to see a flipping folk singer, not a big group.
-你昨晚有嘘我吗？ -我没有 - Didn't you boo me last night? - I didn't.
-哦？ -我们没嘘你，巴布 - Oh? - We didn't boo you, Bob.
-请等一下 -哦 - Please, just a minute. - Well.
我想知道所有嘘我的人的名字 I want the names of all the people that booed me.
我们没嘘你！快点回来 We didn't boo you! Come back soon.
好的，我1、2个月后回来 Okay. I'll... I'll be back in a month or two.
-我们等你！ -再见，加油！ - We'll wait ya! - So long, cheerio!
你们都是可爱的人 All you sweet, lovely people.
-巴布！ -再见，亲爱的… - Hello, Bob! - So long, sweet...
上半场他们好安静… For the first half, when they're all so quiet, I'll just...
我唱了4、5首歌 他们没发出一点声音 I'll play four or five songs and they just don't make a sound.
突然间， “嘘” All of a sudden, "Boo."
后来亚伯特出场 他们开始“嘘” And then Albert will come out and they go, "Boo."
我喜欢昨晚报上的描述 And I loved the description in the paper last night.
他们说是经典 What they said, that was classic.
整篇文章没一句实话 There wasn't one truth in the entire article.
都是动听的谎言… It was all the most fantastic lies...
-他们可以捏造 -来自哪个城市？ - they could concoct. - From what town, man?
上一个城市，爱丁堡 “狄伦再度被喝倒采” From the last town, Edinburgh. "Another night of catcalls for Dylan."
-我没看到 -“许多听众中途离席” - Oh, I didn't see that. - "Many of the audience walked out."
我看到一个 你有没有看到报纸上说… I saw one, man. Did you see one paper that said...
-所有人中途离席 -我没看到 - everybody walked out? - I haven't seen that one.
所有人中途离席 我看到一家写： “所有人中途离席” Everybody walked out. Saw a paper it said, "Everybody walked out."
-利物浦，我有看到 -他们简直是疯了 - In Liverpool, I saw it. - They're really losing their minds.
-绝对疯了 -我要离开 - Totally insane. - I'm going to walk out.
“我们要真的狄伦” "We want the real Dylan."
“真狄伦会站起来吗？” "Will the real Dylan stand up?"
我决定跟他们说 狄伦生病了 I've decided just to tell them, man, that Dylan got sick.
他们说你一定是最终垮掉的一代
你认为呢？ What do you think? Just...
我不会跟任何人说 你觉得怎样？ I won't tell anybody what you say. What do you think?
-不是我个人的评论 -你到底觉得怎样？ - Not your personal comment. - Yeah. What do you think?
斯德哥尔摩
我没有意见 I have no opinion about that.
为什么？ Well, why?
因为我不曾真的听你唱过 Because I haven't heard you sing, actually.
你没听过我唱歌？ You've never heard me sing?
你却坐在这里 问我这些问题 And here you are sitting here and you're asking me all these questions.
-这是我的工作 -对，算了 - Well, this is my job. - Yeah, well.
英国，伦敦
你能不能吸一下你的眼镜？
-吸？ -放在嘴巴一下 - Suck them? - Put them in your mouth for one second.
眼镜角放在嘴巴一下，对 Put the corner of your glasses in your mouth. That's it.
吸一下眼镜 Just suck your glasses.
你吸不吸？
不，我不想吸 No, I don't want to suck them.
谁要吸眼镜？ - Does anybody want to suck my glasses? - Yeah.
有
法国，巴黎
你同不同意你应该是
传述意义的歌手领袖？
不，我不明白这是什么意思
你不觉得初期的唱片
比现在的好多了？
谁说的？ Who said that?
-这位，这边这位 -你？问他是不是美国人 - This one here. This fellow here. - You? Ask him if he's American.
-你是美国人吗？ -我是法国人 - Are you American? - I'm French.
所以你才会觉得初期的唱片比较好 Well, that's why you probably think the first records are better.
你为什么唱歌？
因为我喜欢唱
唱歌的时候，你有什么
特别的东西要表达吗？
没有
这首歌叫… This is called...
这是首民谣 我现在要唱民谣 This is a folk song. I want to sing a folk song now.
我知道你们会开心 I knew that would make you happy.
这首歌叫… This is called Yes, I See You've Got Your Brand-New Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat.
有，你戴着全新的 豹皮斑纹帽
签名
-签名！ -你好惨 - Sign it! - You're so miserable.
-我不会… -签名需要半个钟头 - It won't take... - It won't take half an hour just to sign it.
其他两个人不问我 你为什么要问？ They don't ask me, those other two people don't ask me. Why do you?
-你为什么不给？ -你好惨？ - Why shouldn't you give it? - You're so miserable?
那我们干嘛来看你？ Why do we come out to see you for?
-因为他们喜欢我… -我们不喜欢你了 - Because they like me they said... - We don't like you anymore.
她叫我乞丐 She called me a bum.
-我告诉你为什么 -可以帮我签个名吗？ - I'll tell you why! - May I have your autograph, please?
不帮我签名 我就叫你乞丐 He'll call you a bum you don't sign the autograph.
-快，巴布 -快啦 - Come on, Bob. - Oh, come on!
-快，巴布 -快啦
你不需要我的签名 有需要我就帮你签 You don't need my autograph. If you needed it, I'd give it to you.
-签个名好吗？ -你今天是怎么了？ - Just give up your autograph, will you? - What's wrong with him today, eh?
Ain't it just like the night
to play tricks when you're trying to be so quiet?
We sit here stranded
though we all do our best to deny it
And Louise holds a handful of rain
tempting you to defy it
Lights flicker from the opposite loft
In this room the heat pipes just cough
The country music station plays soft
But there's nothing, really nothing to turn off
Just Louise
and her lover so entwined
And these visions of Johanna
that conquer my mind
我们出门巡回很久了，好吗？ Hey, we've been on the road a long time, right?
我不知道，我不记得了 I don't know. I don't remember.
可能是吧 - I guess maybe we have. - We've been on the road a very long time.
我们离家已经很久了
今晚没办法 我不知道该怎么掩饰 Man, I can't make it tonight. I don't know how to cover up for it.
我一直想不出办法 It's something I never figured out.
我一点办法都没有 我不应该唱歌 There's nothing I can do about it. I just shouldn't be singing.
我想下星期换个新巴布狄伦 I think I'm gonna get me a new Bob Dylan next week.
换个巴布狄伦，加以使用 Get me a new Bob Dylan and use him.
用新的巴布狄伦 看能用多久！ Use the new Bob Dylan, see how long he lasts!
He brags of his misery
he likes to live dangerously
And when bringing her name up
he speaks of her farewell kiss to me
He's sure got a lot of gall
to be so useless and all
Muttering small talk at the wall
while I'm in the hall
Oh, how can I explain?
It's so hard to get on
And these visions of Johanna
they kept me up past the dawn
我想回家 你知道家是什么吗？ I want to go home. You know what home is?
我不想去意大利了 我哪里都不想去了 I don't want to go to Italy no more. I don't want to go nowhere no more.
到头来私人飞机在… You end up crashing in a private airplane...
田纳西山区坠毁 in the mountains of Tennessee.
或西西里 Or Sicily.
待在美国时 你什么时候回来？ When you stay in the States, I mean, when you come back?
不知道，我只想回家 I don't know. I just want to go home.
1966年7月29日 欧洲之旅回来不久
巴布狄伦骑摩托车出车祸
-你有进控制室吗？ -有 - Are you in the controls at all? - Yeah.
听起来怎么样？ What does it sound like?
好像在楼下的录音室… Like you're in a recording studio downstairs...
这家伙进步得很快 the son of a bitch picks up great here.
声音非常棒 不知道会是什么样子… The acoustics are fantastic. I don't know what they'll be like...
各位，麻烦两分钟后好吗？ Fellas, can we have you, please? In about two minutes.
好的，两分钟 Okay, two minutes.
不是，我的意思是 下来之后两分钟… No. I mean by the time you get down there it'll be two minutes...
不是“两分钟后开始下来” not, "In two minutes, we start to go down there. "
-好，两分钟 -嘿，两分钟，老兄 - Yeah, two minutes. - Hey, two minutes, man.
各位先生、女士 节目单上最后一人… Last on the bill. Not least, ladies and gentlemen...
他从坟墓里回来了 here he is, back from the grave.
对，直接从坟墓跳出来 Right, straight from the grave.
犹大
我不相信你 I don't believe you.
骗子！ You're a liar!
奏大声一点！
Once upon a time you dressed so fine
Threw the bums a dime in your prime
didn't you?
People'd call, say, "Beware, doll You're bound to fall"
You thought that they were all
Kidding you
You used to
laugh about
摩托车意外之后
Everybody that was hangin' out
巴布狄伦 持续创作和录制歌曲
有8年他不愿再重拾巡回之旅
Now you don't talk so loud
Now you don't seem so proud
About having to be scrounging around
for your next meal
How does it feel
To be on your own
No direction home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone?
You've gone to the finest school
All right, Miss Lonely But you only used to get
juiced in it
Nobody's ever taught you how to live out on the street
But now
you're gonna have to get used to it
You said you'd never compromise
With the mystery tramp, but now you realize
He's not selling any alibis
As you stare into the vacuum of his eyes
And say
do you want to make a deal?
How does it feel
To be on your own
With no direction home
Like a complete unknown
Like a rolling stone?
谢谢观赏 Thank you.
Lay down your weary tune
Lay down
Lay down the song you strum
And rest yourself
'neath the strength of strings
No voice can hope
to hum
Struck by the sounds before the sun
I knew the night had gone
The morning breeze
like a bugle blew
Against the drums of dawn
Lay down your weary tune
Lay down
Lay down the song you strum
And rest yourself
'neath the strength of strings
No voice can hope
to hum
The ocean wild
like an organ played
The seaweed's wove its strands
The crashin' waves
like cymbals clashed
Against the rocks
and sands
Lay down your weary tune
Lay down
Lay down the song you strum
And rest yourself
'neath the strength of strings
No voice can hope
to hum
I stood unwound beneath the skies
And clouds unbound by laws
The cryin' rain
like a trumpet sang
And asked for no applause
Lay down your weary tune
Lay down
Lay down the song you strum
And rest yourself
'neath the strength of strings
No voice can hope
to hum
The last of leave fell from the trees
And clung to a new love's breast
The branches bare like a banjo moaned
To the winds that listened best
Lay down your weary tune Lay down
Lay down the song you strum
And rest yourself
'neath the strength of strings
No voice can hope to hum