洛杉矶，加利福尼亚州
嗨 我们来到了加利福尼亚 Here we are. We've arrived to Los Angeles.
And you know, not the usual transportation.
我们并没有用普通的交通工具
We are in the leopard-skinned limo
而是在一个豹纹的轿车里
Because we are here to explore the Glam Metal Scene
因为我们要在这里探索华丽金属表演
Rolling up
这就开始啦
the one style of metal that i couldn't stand was Glam Metal
唯一我不能接受的金属乐就是华丽金属
hair metal, pop metal, whatever you want to call it
长发金属 流行金属...无论你管它叫什么
To me this style didn't have the power integration
对我来说这个类型没有
that i love to build metal music
吸引我的力量
and the band seems like boy bands
而且乐队看起来都是男孩
Put together by music exact just to sell records
被组建起来只是为了卖唱片
but this style is still a major chapter in the history of metal.
但这个类型依然是金属乐的一个主要篇章
So i wanna understand where it came from and where it fits in the evolution of this music
因此我想要理解它从何而来以及在金属乐的演变中有着怎样的地位
乐视音乐字幕组独家制作 听译&时间轴：heartlandscape 总校对：Sese
金属进化论
Glam emerged from the sun-set strip in the 1980s
华丽金属出现于八十年代的日落大道
and grew to become a massive phenomenon
逐渐变成一种现象
selling millions of records
卖出成百万的唱片
But the LA hard rock scene didn't start there.
但是洛杉矶重金属表演并不在这里诞生
more than a decade earlier, VANHALEN pioneered the new sound and look on the strip
早在十年前 VANHALEN 在日落大道创造了这种全新的声音和造型
So i 'm meeting with VANHALEN bass's Michael Anthony
因此我准备拜访VANHALEN 的贝斯手Michael Anthony
以找出缘何激发出了80年代的华丽金属 to find out how to inspire the 80s Glam Metal movement.
When Daniel started out in L.A, what was the scene like?
当丹尼尔来到洛杉矶的时候舞台表演是怎样的？
The scene in L.A around 1974 i think was kind like still very David Bowie.
1974年左右的那时候的音乐表演还是有很多David Bowie的影子
he started as have be everybody was walking around with flare flat bottoms and platform shoes and spandex and stuff like that.
开始的时候每个人都穿着喇叭裤，松底鞋，紧身晴纶裤，这样的东西
and here we are in Pasadena in California, jeans and T-shirts
而我们从加州的帕萨迪纳来 穿着牛仔裤和T恤
come into this house seeing Hollywood is a whole another planet.
进了这间房间发现好莱坞是完全另一番景象
we didn't go full blown Glam but we had the platform shoes and we stepped up flickle a little bit
我们也没有完全走向华丽金属 只不过穿厚底鞋
as we continue to play out in the Hollywood and clubs out there, we were really successful.
持续在好莱坞和那儿的酒吧表演并取得了成功
and that really built the following
这造就了后续的发展
We changed everything, locally here in Southern California.
我们彻底改变了南加州的风格
they were massive I mean it was scaring.
他们有很多人，这很可怕
When all the other guitar players get Wood( Bob Wood ) and Petty( Thomas Earl Petty ), strike fear in hearts of the rest of us.
当其他吉他手知晓伍德和佩迪，发觉他们精彩得令人生畏
I was pretty devastated
我当时很受打击
I have never heard Van Heyland before.
我从没听过VANHALEN
Every VANHALEN sounds like a painter to me you know
VANHALEN的每个人对我来说就像一幅画
so i expected to see some old guys with gold teeth and the little guitar sitting
所以我原本以为会是一群穿着金T恤拿着小吉他的老家伙们坐在那儿
when i got to the Whisky, the line was around several blocks to get in
当我来到威士忌酒吧的时候排队已经到了几个街区开外
And all of a sudden, i see VANHALEN for the first time.
就在那时，我第一次见到了
And oh my god.
我只能说 我的天哪
I remember we were playing shows and David tell aye it's a hey
我记得我们跟大卫一起表演，他向我们打了声招呼
when you going to one of your hang around solos, turn away from the crab
当你要开始其中一段独奏的时候， 将琴掰过来琶音
because we don't want any guitars after seeing what you're doing
因为我们看了这个表演之后不再想要别的吉他演奏了
我觉得Dave是我们的明星因为Dave明显在台上很时尚又健壮 I think we just looked at Dave because Dave obviously was very fashionary and very physical athletic on the stage.
just have a look at the long blond hair and you know obviously Dave was a very unique frontman back at that time
看看他的一头金色长发 显然在那时他是一个独一无二的主唱
They did inspired the whole L.A scene because people said
他们激发了整个加州的华丽金属热情 因为人们会说
这些家伙又饿又穷 他们也能玩摇滚 These guys starved and suffer. They played the roxy.
他们在云端了 他们做到了 我们也可以
They were hanging out the rainbow. They did it. We can do it too.
and then it just exploded
这之后华丽金属爆发
VANHALEN inspired young L.A musicians that they could make it big and laid the foundation
VANHALEN激励了加州的年轻乐手们 他们可以做到
for the next generation of medal bands on the strip.
并且为后世乐人奠基
And it was MÖTLEY CRÜE who picked up the torch and really put the Glam in Glam Medal
他们之中是MÖTLEY CRÜE掌灯指引了华丽金属的发展
So how did CRÜE kick start the Glam Medal movement?
那么他们是怎样开启了华丽金属运动的呢？
Me growing up and i wanted first got in the singing. It was always Davely rock, the guy that i looked up to.
在我成长过程中第一次想唱歌是因为听到Dave式的摇滚 我很崇拜他
Dave is kinda like me. We were born in Los Angeles and had kinda like that bichy...vibe
他就像我一样出生在加州 有点小贱
看到他就好像看到我自己 I saw myself, you know in him.
Can you describe...sort of...what it was like there before became such a massive scene?
你能形容一下在你们没有那么出名之前的情形吗
You know there was just a lot of very cool bands playing on the strip and around hollywood.
你知道那时又很多很棒的乐队在好莱坞和日落大道表演
Gzary's, Star war and Troubadour, Gzary's, Star war and Troubadour, places like that.
像Gzary's, Star war and Troubadour, Gzary's, Star war and Troubadour这样的地方
Me and Tommy and Nicky lived in the apartment, right about the Whisky Gogo. And we went up to the club together.
我和Tommy还有Nicky住在一个公寓里 离Whisky Gogo很近 我们一起去那儿
That's for the girl's coming. You know get girls buy us drinks or we get some money from some girls
都是为了女孩儿们 有时候她们为我们买饮料或者给我们些小费
you know to buy some cheap alchol and drink it before ruin the clubs. So it was cool to sing.
或买一些便宜的酒 然后在表演前喝 所以唱歌很酷
I think for any scene on the sunset strip to evolve it was because
我认为在日落大道的表演 之所以会演变成这样是因为
在其中有一种社区的意味 there was some sense of community at that time
It was cheap to live on the strip so they weren't just coming here once a week, they were eating here, they were working here, they were partying here.
在日落大道上谋生比较方便 她们不只是一周来一次 他们在这儿吃饭 工作 派对
So it was really able to refine a next look because they literally lived there and did it every night.
所以这种形式慢慢改良因为他们就住在那儿并且每天都在做这样的事情
These guys were all starving in their early days. Lot of them were sponging off women. Women will buy them a make-up
这些乐人在早期都是饥肠辘辘的 他们中的很多人依靠女孩儿们 女孩儿们甚至为他们买化妆品
How they ever got people to buy them a food i don't know but they did.
他们如何让人们给他们买食物的我不知道但是他们做到了
I mean we didn't have any money back then so everything we did was very on budget.
我们那时并没有钱 我们做任何事都有预算
But we have put out our own record "Too Fast For Love" was on our own label. That was a record with small distribution.
但是我们出了自己的专辑 Too Fast For Love 以我们自己的商标品牌 很小的发行量
Everybody passed on this. Nobody wanted anything to do with MÖTLEY CRÜE.
没人在意这个 没有人很看重MÖTLEY CRÜE这个乐队
I love get a medial. It was like god this is so different and so great.
我的天啊这太棒了
Whisky Gogo I was a record buyer for the record store Record Pizza. That was a cross from the Whisky Gogo.
我当时在Record Pizza唱片行做唱片买手 那时我路过了
So i put my ass on the line and i bought 300 copies.
我听了他们的演出立刻买了300张唱片
We made this like great window to display and i had a ... paint MÖTLEY CRÜE cross the front
我们制作得像一个大展示窗一样 我用很重的颜料把MÖTLEY CRÜE大大地在印在前面
And Dicky brought me weaps and chains and drop some pink pennies in my hand. I was like eww...was somebody actually wearing these?
Dicky给我带来了道具和锁链 晃着红色内裤 我震惊了
-Why was the visual presentation of MÖTLEY CRÜE so important?
－为什么MÖTLEY CRÜE的视觉表现是重要的？
-It was a statement. Nikki never felt a music was just enough.
就像一个注脚 Nikki永远精益求精
These guys were involiment of what their music was about, what their lerth are all about.
他们对自己的音乐非常有想法
I saw vision MÖTLEY CRÜE as a young punk version of kiss.
我觉得MÖTLEY CRÜE 是青年朋克的翘楚
And Nikki always had a vision of being a real agie grounded theatrical band with no holes by.
Nikki对如何成为富有戏剧性的乐团非常有天赋
-It is but it's rock it off.
是的但那还是摇滚
But also you are very keen on the theatrical appearance side which i think you are kinds of full front of bands
并且你们非常热衷于戏剧化的表演 因此我认为你们是
非常在意自己在舞台上和影碟等其他媒介上形象的乐队 who do care what you are like on stage and in videos and or in a different ways.
-It's our job.
这是我们的工作
-We were brought to try to put on the good show for the kids, and try to at least look presentable
我们试着为观众们带去好看的表演 至少看上去像样
-Excuse me. I'm the one that looks presentable. Look at these things. -Hey you have tie.
不好意思 我好像看上去才比较像样吧 看看你们穿的 哈哈你这个领带男
We was lived in our own world. We were a mixture of a lot different kinds of bands and influences.
我们在我们自己的世界里 我们是许多乐队和潮流的混杂体
Most obviously, the Dolls, AeroSmith and Van Halen. And we were taking on influences,
显然的Dolls, Early AeroSmith and Van Halen 有一种影响力
is so worrying among our slaves and when we hit the stage i felt an excitement.
但我上台时 我感到振奋
That we always wanted out of rock and roll and heavy metal, we felt the audience with scene, with they've being dying for.
我们一直在渴望摇滚以外的一种东西 我们在舞台上感受观众 感受他们渴望的东西
Nikki say cause he wanted his conceptual ....
Nikki这么说是因为他渴望观念上的认同
他经常看着大海报 想如果我们要办一个伟大的演出我们要看上去是怎么样的 He was looking at the big picture. How do we look. We want to have a great stage show.
They will do anything to get a reaction.
他们会为了得到观众的反馈做任何的事情
He was always very experimental with things.
他一直很先锋
And i remember when he got these leather platform boots that came up over the knee and he decided then he was going to do this.. technique stuff.
我记得他穿着皮质的及膝厚底靴 然后决定要去做那些xx科技的事
It was called piral jail and i just want to see how much...you know it was like Nikki on fire and i said okay cool!
那叫xx监狱 我只是想看看有多厉害 他们说Nikki着火了 我惊呼这太酷了
NikkiOn the stage we have had the sword i touched the candle and sort of catch on the fire. Like Nikki was...we lignted him.
在舞台上我们有一把剑 我用火把蜡烛点燃 然后点燃了
He would go up and he just bring his head back. And it was like yeah that's a really special effect. That's one that put you in the hospital.
他会靠近观众然后把头一仰 那真的是很特别的表演 那可是会把人送进医院的
It was how many more amps we could get on the stage. How much bigger can we make our piral.
就是想看看我们能创造多少舞台效应 和将它扩大
We've got to see other bands and go we can top that. You have to experiment musically and visually to push the envelop.
我们看了别的乐队的表演觉得我们能超过他们 必须在视觉和音乐上做双重挑战才能突破极限
MÖTLEY CRÜE really had an attitude that they will gonna make a huge huge impression.
MÖTLEY CRÜE确实有一种他们要有非常大影响力的态度
如果你走向极致 那么他们已经比你多数倍地靠近极致了 If you went to the extreme, they did that times ahead.
It was all big big big big big.
他们就是非常非常非常牛
By 1982, MÖTLEY CRÜE was signed to a major label and had established themselves as the hottest band at Sunset stripe
直到1982年 MÖTLEY CRÜE签约了一家唱片公司 并且成为日落大道地最热乐队
And once CRÜE and many other L.A metal bands played the US Festival in 1983, the rock world started to pay attention to what was happening on the stripe.
当MÖTLEY CRÜE和其他加州乐队在1983年的US音乐节上演出时 整个摇滚乐界开始关注到他们
Heavy metal day at .. 83. The highest attended day of any art festival. Between 250,000 and 400,000 people
金属乐的大日子就是今天 欢迎收看 最为万众期待的US音乐节迎来了25到40万的观众
In early 80s, heavy metal was blowing up in Europe. Bands like Judas Priest , Scorpions and Iron Madden were beginning to make a major impact in the US.
80年代初期 重金属乐在欧洲爆发 像犹大牧师 蝎子和铁娘子这样的乐队开始对美国产生重要影响
But when L.A new commer's MÖTLEY CRÜE inquired rime to make massive crowds on the US Festival heavy medal day, the spotlight was turning to America.
但是来自加州的新秀MÖTLEY CRÜE在美国重金属音乐节上吸睛无数的表演后焦点转向美国
As a young band to look out there and see rolling hills of people, you couldn't see where it ended. It was just unbelievable.
当一个年轻的乐队看到面前人山人海的景象 甚至都看不到尽头 太不可思议了
You know we were just kids...just at 83. You know we haven't been on tour yet.
你知道我们还只是孩子 那还是1983 年 我们都还没有巡回演唱过
Quiet Riot opened this whole show. We came out right after them.
Quiet Riot 开场 我们紧随其后
We had played to the single biggest audience that i think anybody had ever played to.
我们为非常多的观众演出 比任何演出的观众都多
And if Quiet Riot have never done anything beyond that date. It would have been enough for any musician's lifetime.
如果Quiet Riot 在之前没有做过类似的演出 对于任何乐者来说能跟他们同台都值了
-Quiet Riot. I'm gonna go up to catch you. Say you are ready!
-Quiet Riot 我要上去看你们了！准备好了吗！
-Yeah!
-当然！
-Let's do it!
-走着！
Quiet Riot performance of US Festival exposed the band to a huge audience.
Quiet Riot在音乐节上的表演为他们博得众多听众
同时洛杉矶制作人Proffer为他们铺展开商业之路 But was L.A producer spencer Proffer who homed Quiet Riot sound and helped pave the way to commercial success
Take me back to when you first met the Quiet Riot guys.
告诉我你第一次见Quiet Riot乐手们的情景
我在洛杉矶开着车听着流行乐电台 I was driving around L.A, listening to pop radio,
放SLADE乐队（英国老牌华丽摇滚乐队）的Cum on Feel the Noize这首歌和他们的其他老金曲 ‘Cum on Feel the Noize’ came on and some oldie by SLADE
I said holy shit. If i could find a band to sing that song, how cool would that be?
我觉得太棒了 如果我能找到一支乐队唱这个歌该多酷
I went out to this club out to see the California. And these guys were singing bane you head. They were singing party all night.
我出门到了这家加州的俱乐部 他们唱得太嗨了 整晚都在唱
So i went up to them afterwards and i said i'd like to take you to the studio to record for songs.
所以我走过去说 我想带你们去录音室录歌
And i said you need to do a song called come on feel the noise.
我对他们说你们需要唱这首名叫“感受噪音”的歌
Kevin would go That's nighty holder than *** from slave. No way from my dead body.
Kevin 说：“这简直疯了，我们不是奴隶！”
我说：“不好意思兄弟，我们成交了。” I said sorry dude that's the deal
The day comes that we have to record “come on feel the noise". You know begrudgingly and i start playing.
录制这首歌的日子到了 非常勉强地我演奏了
And it sounds pretty good. Kevin sitting on the other side of the room and daggers coming out of his eyes.
听起来还真不错 Kevin 站在另一边 目光如炬
That means you know like a cartoon with smokes coming out of his ears. And he was just live it.
就像卡通里面有烟从人物的眼睛里冒出来一样 简直是一场狂欢
We didn't like the idea. First we didn't want to play it. We are like the Brady Kids we cannot do this.
我们不喜欢这个主意 我们不想演出 就像the Brady Kids里一样 我们不能做这个
We started doing it and it was quite the best thing we ever did.
当我们开始做的时候却发现这是我们所做之最
We did the video for Come on feel the noise.
我们为Come on feel the noise拍了录像
And we were opening up for Black Sabbath and rock for the Leather Way.
我们为Black Sabbath开场
And we found out that night that how it would be the number one on the billboard charts.
然后我们就发现自己是怎样在榜单上成为第一的
Quiet Riot was the magnet to the movement. And the dominos fell behind that. All these bands got signed.
Quiet Riot 是潮流始者 他们之后同类乐队相继被签约
Cause you know how the ain't art works. Once you have been cared everybody wants twenty of the same thing.
你知道这种艺术是怎么过运作的 一旦一个被接纳成千上万就相继而出
That was when the record company said wait a minute. This crazy weird stuff that hollywood's manufacturing is sellable.
就在这时唱片公司发现这个好莱坞生产的疯狂奇怪的风格是有经济效益赚头的
A country will buy it.
有人为它买单
After the success of Quiet Riot's Come on Feel the Noise, bands float from across America to L.A
Quiet Riot在这首歌大获成功后 无数乐队纷纷从美国的其他地区飞来LA谋求发展
to become part of the Glam Metal scene on the sunset strip
成为日落大道的华丽金属圈中的一员
Describe from you why decided you to leave Pennsylvania and come to Los Angeles?
说说你为什么从宾州到了洛杉矶
central Pennsylvania is not photo ground for musicians and artists
宾州市中心对音乐人和艺术家来说并不是一个便宜的地方
so we brought a boat ambulance and i remember listening to MÖTLEY CRÜE
所以我们买了一辆救护车 然后我记得听MÖTLEY CRÜE
and break nighter assembling, floring in this ambulance.
兴奋得狂舞 就是在这个救护车里
想想多少人在这车里死去 而我们要开着他穿越整个国家！ Think to yourself how many people died in this thing and we're gonna drive this cross country?
You know what i mean?
你明白我的意思吗
It just makes sense, i mean, they have the art festivals out here you know they result this.
顺理成章就这样了 这儿有艺术节等等
Energy out here, you know you think about California, hear to the bands on the radio i used to say yeah i need to be part of that
这儿有一股能量 在加州 在电台里听乐团就觉得我们应该成为一员
What was the scene L.A like at that time?
洛杉矶当时的（华丽金属）氛围是什么样的？
It was freaking awesome.
特别棒
I mean it was like Monday night to Sunday night it seem like thousands of people on the strip.
就好像周一到周日每天都会有一千左右观众到俱乐部
There was always bands playing at the Tripperdoor, the Whisky, the Roxy
在Tripperdoor, Whisky和Roxy永远有乐队在演出
There's always somewhere to go and to see someone play.
想看演出的话永远有地方可去
They were to be hanging out, partying, having a good time.
外出约会，派对，是非常棒的去处
Chase some girls you know.
你懂的 把妹宝地
There were no principals. There is nobody telling you No.
这儿没有限制没有规矩 没有人告诉你“不行”
It was also a time of deckidem , the indulgence of drugs, of possessions.
这里也是堕落的 嗑药 贩卖违禁物品
And the way that you could really do that and get a way with it is by being a rock star.
成为摇滚明星后就能明目张胆地做这些事
The Sunset strip became the social networking ground of all those Glam Metal bands.
日落大道成了华丽金属摇滚乐队的聚集地
And they all have the posters. The poles are about this thick with staple gun flyers.
他们各自有海报 宣传单这么厚厚一打
So i think of the flyers flyers flyers.
我记得那些传单
I mean the streets were covered with 50 bands and promoting the shows.
整条街被50多个乐队演出传单占满
So how do you make your bands stand out from the other 30 flyers that somebody got？
你怎么使自己的乐队在其他传单中脱颖而出
That's where we went out and promoted and where we really really excelled.
就是我们为什么我们能被推出的原因
Most of the racker companies p* all of the p* at least twice.
大多数所有的唱片公司都张贴所有的乐队演出至少两次
They say you know you have to build the following
他们觉得必须要有后续效应
Los Angeles at that point was the heavy metal and rock'n roll capital in the world.
当时洛杉矶是重金属和摇滚的圣地
We want to be the big fish and the big point.
如果你想要做大哥
And you got to be not only talented but you gonna be determined to make it.
你就不仅得聪明 还得有决心
without that determination forget it
没有决心什么也办不成
We played one remember we had to open for somebody.
我要让每个人都记住我们
I go bright tell everybody we have a party warmer down.
我告诉每个人我们要办一个热场派对
Because on our stage i tell everybody as soon as we are done, the first hundred people in the room at the party up the street got free beer.
并且 在我们的演出最先到的100人免费喝啤酒
So nobody was there for the head-lining ache.
所以没有人因为派对而抱怨大家心甘情愿为演出排队
Everybody was hanging out with us at the party. We do this every time.
每个人都出动了 我们想要每次都这样
It put us like the headlining stellas like overnight.
一夜之间我们成了头牌明星
You know what i mean? It was like you know really work. It really work.
你明白吗 这太奏效了 太奏效了
Poison was the king of promotion at that point of time. And the girls all loved it.
Poison 太会推销了 女孩儿们爱死他们了
And the guys followed the hot girls to see Poison. And that's when it started to taking off.
然后小伙子跟着姑娘们去看Poison 乐队就这样起步了
The women like Hang Metal because the men were behaving as they do.
姑娘们喜欢华丽金属的原因是里面的男孩好像她们一样
They wear lots of make-up. They spent time doing their hair.
他们化妆 花时间弄头发
The girls were particularly interested in the guitar solos
姑娘们尤其喜欢吉他手
You know the really heavy bands hated us while tree sau* was cool.
你知道真正的重金属摇滚很讨厌我们但是
We probably got close to 30 strip fires. People didn't walk to make on it.
我们就是火到爆 没人不知道我们
People even want to fu* us or fight us. And i'm proud of that.
他们甚至想跟我们干架 但我以此为傲
We never actually backed going out and beating up people where in spandex* and having big pouffy. Hair sprit hair.
我从没有公然支持人们留爆炸头
But i certainly never told anyone to not do it.
但是我肯定没有叫别人别这样做
We view like the hair bands are nemesis.
我们视华丽金属乐队们为克星
We are the dirty motor headers you know they were the sissy nancy boys.
我们是脏兮兮的摩托党 而他们则是一群娘娘腔
But secretly we went to the shows all the time cuz we will check the worries.
但我们还是一直悄地的去看他们的秀以解心头被超越的担忧
If you look at 17 year-old guy, why is he interested in life? Being a real man, yeah, and getting some.
如果你问一个17岁的男孩儿追求什么 做一个男人 获得些什么
So if you had to choose which way you are gonna go, hair metal got you some.
所以当他们要选择走哪条路时 华丽金属非常顺理成章
By the mid 80s, the Glam Metal scene in the L.A was booming. Bands were filling clubs on the strip.
80年代中期 华丽金属占据了洛杉矶的大街小巷
and signing record deals with major labels.
签约各大唱片公司
But once Glam Metal videos landed on MTV, the movement really started to sky rock.
但当华丽金属音乐录影带在MTV台大量播出后 它就成为了全球风潮
This is it. Welcome to MTV music television.
欢迎来到MTV音乐电视台
The world's first 24 hour stereo video music channel.
全球首个24小时立体声音乐频道
MTV embraced Glam Metal
音乐电视台拥抱了华丽金属
giving bands a perfect showcase for their sound and look
给他们完美的平台展示他们的音乐和造型
and kinda pullting this music from the sunset strip
将华丽金属从日落大道推广开来
使之传送到全世界的耳边 into living room that cross the globe.
The minute talk hit MTV. It just started to take off and we got the opportunities to tour with Ratt
在MTV的表演使我们有机会和Ratt乐队一起巡演
The first couple of week, there were like twenty people in the audience.
起初几个星期只有二十来个观众
But by the first month, all a sudden, the place was filled up when we hit the stage.
但突然间 第一个月内 突然观众爆满
That's when i started to go "wow, this is really started to happen."
当时我就想 这一切真的要开始了
everywhere you went MTV was on cuz it was the biggest radio station in the world.
你去的任何地方都有MTV 那是全球最大的音乐电台
全球的孩子们都想要 There were kids across the globe that wanted something.
为音乐举手狂欢 That was gonna make put their hands beyond.
And it was then that i knew we can take the singing around the world.
从那起我就知道我们可以把歌传播到世界各处
We spent massive of mountain of money on video. It was just another avenue to get a successful expose to a much larger audience.
我们斥巨资打造音乐录影带 这是另一条获得大量观众的渠道
Three-minute video, you just reached every single eyeball in the country.
三分钟的影片 可以让每个人看到你的表演
You've like, ok there's your sound, there's your band, there's your look.
里面有你的声音，乐队，造型
The bands that make it are the bands that look good on TV.
靠音乐录影带成功的乐队都是“好看”的乐队
Because of the medium that it is. And it rewards spectacularity.
因为电视媒介就是这样 观众就好这口
Glam benefited tremendously from MTV. Glam was MTV ready because of the emphasis on spectical that all existed in the live concert.
华丽金属非常适合音乐电视 因为其与生具来的夸张“好看”的舞台效应
I was quite sure if there was so such thing as MTV, we would never heard of him at all.
我非常确定如果没有音乐电视台 这些乐队将永远不会为我们所知
Cuz MTV it's music tele-"vision". It's look.
因为音乐电视台是视觉的
The sound was far less important than the look.
声音远没有形象来得重要
It was important those days because their fame was based on their MTV image.
这个媒介是很重要的 它决定了乐队的声望
They had a look apart, so i was brought in to make them look the way they looked.
他们的形象七零八落 我的任务就是好好整理他们的形象
Steven had this term fashion metal back then
Steven创造了时尚摇滚
because Steven is somebody on mirrors on the store
因为Steven就是天生的时尚明星
他们那些衣服 亮晶晶的东西 that had all these custom made clothes with all those bright stuff sequence
布料 蓬松的上衣 and all these crazy puffy coats.
John had their hair. Everybody did that
John头发造型简直了 每个人都模仿他
When do it now, so that look because that was that.
但现在没人这么干了 那都是当时
I actually remember going to the guy that used to make our outfit.
我还记得负责我们外形的那个家伙
He made everybody's outfit. Motley Crue, Krokus, Ratt, the pattern was it.
他给Motley Crue, Krokus, Ratt所有这些人做造型
But he just change the things on the pattern or the colors.
但他在各个乐队的造型间只是做微调 换汤不换药
So we all in that looking the same.
所以我们看起来都一样
By the late 80s, Glam Metal bands had become media darlings.
八十年代末 华丽金属摇滚成了媒体的宠儿
The genre was now a house-hold name.
这种风格（华丽金属）变得家喻户晓
It was so pervasive that even as established hard rock bands
许多身为硬式摇滚的乐队
hitch their wagons for the Glam Metal movement to help reinvent their careers
也抓住华丽金属摇滚的稻草重振自己的事业
What was your role in working with Whitesnake
在跟Whitesnake合作的过程中你的角色是？
I've been a fan of David Coverdale
我是David Coverdale的粉丝
I didn't feel it that they were making many commercial music.
不觉得他们做了很多商业音乐
I thought he was a star fun man, a star singer.
我觉得他是个有趣的明星 歌手
I thought he had a mediocre band and just average songs.
我想他只是有一个平庸的乐队 一些普通的歌
My job was to make them a commercial rock band for the United States.
我的工作就是让他们成为美国的商业摇滚乐队
In order to get a look there was appropriate for American in 1987
为了使他们看上去像1987年的美国风格
I just hired the best stylist and the best make-up borders, the best video maker.
我用了最好的造型师，化妆师，和音乐录像带制作人
Seem you guys kinda got lumped in Glam Metal.
看起来你们都涌向了华丽金属摇滚
-Yeah well some of the pictures is difficult to tell the history
是啊光凭几张图片很难看出
why it's like a poison unless he hit the records.
它的威力 除非这个乐队 除非唱片销量好
We worked with the same stylist who was doing Van Halen, Moötley, he actually became just more of a joke to us.
我们的造型师同时也为Van Halen, Mötley,做造型 这简直太滑稽了
It was just link of out of control. You know how much eyeliner show we lose. I don't know let's look at girls.
有点儿失控了 我们画了那么重的眼线 简直像女人
When i met with David, he was i found out about two million dollars in that together.
当我遇到David的时候，他大约有200万身价
But he was a very hopeful stage. He was very hopeful that his album was gonna sell.
但他对舞台非常渴望 非常渴望自己的专辑卖出去
My name is Wendy at six grade.
我是Wendy 我六年级！
How many people do you say are here?
你觉得今天来了多少人？
Oh thousands. Their line are outside for blocks and blocks.
几万吧 队伍排出了好几个街区
For whatever reason we call the zeitgeist nine out of ten hotels that i checked in to when i put the TV on
我们把MTV看作是‘时代精神’的体现 大多数我去过的宾馆
one of WhiteSnake's videos was playing.
打开电视就是在放Whitesnake的MV
MTV was the icing on the cake.
MTV如同锦上添花
It saves me three to five years of hard work in the United States to reach that kind of success.
它节约了我五年的时间来达到这样的成功
That was the immense change of hundreds of thousands of records to millions records.
是它让几百几千的唱片销量变成几百万
I was for the real of being underground artist and still being successful.
我可以不用频繁露面 并且依旧能获得成功
To be so overground was kind of uncomfortable clothes.
也不需要总穿那些令人不舒服地衣服
I wouldn't change a thing. Regard of the teasing.
我不会改变任何东西 为了尊重戏弄我的人
My song of course had a great amusement. Look at some of the photographs.
我的歌当然是很好笑的 看看那些照片
The old musicians saw their opportunity by making themselves part of that movement.
老一些的音乐人看到了他们的机会 想成为MTV的一员
It reveals their careers. It makes them current.
它帮助他们的事业使他们变得当代
Those songs are pop dress of Metal. They look like Metal but they were playing pop songs.
他们的歌是流行化的金属乐 看起来像金属但是流行音乐
So they were able to capture both the hard rockers as well as the female audience.
所以他们能够吸引硬式摇滚乐迷和女性
They were able to combine both.
他们把两者的特性结合起来了
That's why they became that popular because that's a massive audience
这就是为什么他们能有如此多观众的原因
It had at the huge appeal. You know there was like a lot of girls going crazy.
华丽金属摇滚的号召力非常强 非常多女孩儿为之着迷
And a lot of guys liked it as well.
很多男孩儿也喜欢他们
This band looked like pop band that sang like a rock band but songs were a bit both anyway
他们看着像流行 听着像摇滚 歌又像两者都有
So i'd rule general in cross-over.
跨界的风格
At that time a really big rock out would celebrate 2 million copies.
当时一个非常牛的乐队能卖200万张
But if you crossed over into the pop, and when women went into the roof.
但如果你跨界到流行乐 姑娘们爱死你
You do a million in the wake at one point. It was ridiculous.
你闭着眼睛就能百万入账 简直了
And that was cause. Jesus why wouldn't you want that?
这就是原因 谁不愿意这样做呢
If you look at which songs were played most often on the radio, it was the Power Ballad
如果你注意广播里哪首歌播放最频繁 那它一定是首煽情大俗歌
So it was family friendly, and it's romantic.
煽情大俗歌人畜无害，非常浪漫
And so romance brings in that female audience solve itself the rest of the album.
浪漫让女性听众为他们的唱片买单
Power Ballad let aloud the audience for heavy metal hard rock bands in L.A there 80s.
Power Ballad在80年代为重金属，硬式摇滚吸引了不少听众
Many people will tell me it was like their song whatever their song was.
很多人跟我说他们这些歌伴着他们成长
The song that they first kiss to, their first date, their first fu* to.
第一次亲吻 第一次约会 第一个晚上
Radio was playing the balance.
广播是一个平衡
You had achieved success in having the top forty, or top twenty or top ten or number one
你可能因为进入榜单前40，前20，前10或第一而觉得成功
It become so huge.
真是人数众多
with that balance you know you would with the edgier side of the record.
但是总会有危机感 一切都是暂时的
Did you get excited about writing Power Ballad from a musician's stand point?
作为音乐人 你为写出煽情大俗歌而感到振奋吗？
Does anybody get excited about writing Power Ballad?
有人为写出煽情大俗歌而感到振奋？
I think we felt it was an necessary evil.
我认为整点儿煽情大俗歌是一种必要手段
I mean our Power Ballad were our most successful songs
我们最受欢迎的歌都是煽情大俗歌
Personally the things i liked at least about DOKKEN were some of the things we recognized for the most and had most success with.
就个人而言DOKKEN乐队作品里我最不喜欢的歌却是那些让我们成名、广为人知的煽情大俗歌
But return to the point we start making music because it's the music he supposed to make rather than what you wanna make.
但是我们不是在做我们想做的音乐 而是我们应该做的音乐
You are definitely compromising.
必须是一个折中的选择
But that's all we did.
但这就是我们所做的
Although Glam Metal had become hugely popular by the late 80s,
虽然华丽金属在八十年代末变得特别受欢迎
many metal fans including myself felt the Power Ballad's MTV image had gone away over the top.
都意识到大俗情歌在MTV上的前景将光环渐淡
And the music, no longer felt like metal.
他们的音乐也不再像金属乐
Then Glam Metal started to crash.
接着华丽金属步入衰亡
It's down for his long being blamed on the rise of the Seattle GRUNGE movement.
随着西雅图垃圾摇滚的诞生 华丽金属开始为人诟病
But it's also been attributed to the massive impact to L.A hard rockers Guns N' Roses.
但同时也被认为是由洛杉矶硬摇滚乐队“枪花”（枪炮与玫瑰）所带来的巨大影响所致
You know history books kind of position in our way as being a bit of giant killer.
你知道历史书把你们的地位写成了华丽金属的谋杀者
While i mean i wouldn't want to say that we had anything to do with killing.
我觉得谋杀这个词并不合理
I think a lot of those bands didn't have that much substances
我觉得很多乐队自己不具备足够的吸引力
and so they only would last for so long and the interest level would just win.
因此他们不会存活太长时间 并被更有趣的乐队打败
So you've never attempted from spandex
你们从没有尝试过他们的服装 紧身裤之类的
We never did the spandex thing.
我们从没有尝试过紧身裤
There was little bit make-up in the early days.
早期我们有一些妆
There was a little bit hair spray that happened in the very beginning
还有一些发胶 头发的造型等等
and there definitely was a Glam influence but it was more from Sam Mark Bowlin that was basic rollers
“这里面与其说是受了华丽金属的影响，不如说是受同样源头的Marc Bolan（华丽摇滚鼻祖）的启发
Or Cosmo magazine yeah.
或者《宇宙》杂志的影响
There is pre-guns and there is after-guns.
是存在“枪前”时代和“枪后”时代的
Before guns everybody was to clothing designers and having stuff made.
“枪前”时代人们都跑去找服装造型设计师
And then pretty much after guns all the hair and hair spray started to coming down.
而“枪后”艺人的头发逐渐放下来 发胶变少
And all the make-up got less and less.
妆越来越淡
While Guns n' Roses release the rockers. Cuz it was bad as rackers, bad as band.
枪与玫瑰解放了摇滚
I thought ok, we gotta keep our toes here.
我想着 我们应该在这儿立足
I don't think Guns n' Roses help kill hard metal
我不觉得枪与玫瑰谋杀了硬式摇滚
but i think they did create a new avenue of the scape for metal fans.
但我认为他们给金属乐迷一个新的感觉
Musically they weren't doing what those Glam bands were doing.
音乐上 他们没有做华丽金属感觉的歌
They were real. They were great musicians and music was in their blood.
他们是真的音乐人 音乐在他们的根里
And that's what's saperating Guns n' Roses from all those other bands.
这就把枪与玫瑰和其他乐队区分开了
Glam wasn't musical and melodically cored wise.
华丽金属不是音乐性的
you can't go to many places.
所以不能走得很远
After a while it wasn't that original anymore.
但很快也失去了原创性了
Everything was cloning everything else.
所有人在克隆所有人
There was Warrant and there was 25 many Warrants.
有了一个Warrant 以后就会有更多的Warrant的克隆
And there was Ratt and they made 25 many Rats.
有了Ratt就会有更多Ratt的翻版
That's pretty soon that it was so saturated
过不多久华丽金属的市场就饱和了
and third and fourth generations Glam bands got so ridiculous.
第三代和第四代华丽金属乐队就变得非常可笑了
It's like oh now we are gonna do a Power Ballad, now we gonna do a Pop Anthan.
就好像我们创造了一个Power Ballad的奇迹 就会有另外一个相似的奇迹
And we've got the pink lipstick and proke-side hair
涂着厚厚的嘴唇 边分的头发
and we've got tones of whatever the stuffs that make your hair stand up
厚重的让头发立起来的东西
I don't know what's the different band names.
只有团名是不同的
We thought of the L.A sort of Glam scene was so lot of posers.
我们觉得那会儿的洛杉矶华丽金属圈已经有太多装腔作势的家伙了
They just want genuine, so we were sort of emphasis at that
他们只想要天才 而我们就是
and write on the hills that came a bunch of cool bands
那些最酷的乐队留下名字
like SOUNDGARDEN, Alice in Chains, NIRVANA, PEARL JAM
像SOUNDGARDEN, Alice in Chains, NIRVANA和PEARL JAM
And then they had a even more strip down sensibility
然后他们更适合在日落大道演出
that everything sort of going to that direction.
他们的风格是这样
The Glam Metal scene just disappeared because
华丽金属就这样消失了是因为
it burned that whole Seattle movement have added to a sensibility
它被西雅图的垃圾摇滚击败
At that moment in time i got it it was like, oh yeah this is taking over the world and fast.
当时我就想 是的 时代变了 而且很快
I do remember being at the Rainbow and thinking ok
我还记得在彩虹酒吧 当时我想
the hair bands better enjoy your last ride here.
华丽金属 好好享受你最后的时刻吧
All i would hear on the radio was everything but all of us.
当时在广播里听到的净是除了我们以外的事情
That was pretty much, when it was like ooh man, ok.
还挺难受的 但也只能接受
I experience the back lash of being a sort of i'm an L.A metal band.
我经历了作为洛杉矶金属乐队的衰落
We did a show and the club was insane. There were people spitting at us.
记得当时做一个表演 人们疯了 朝我们吐口水
I mean raining at down on as the whole show.
整个表扬就像下是在雨中度过的
And i looked over Jeff for a second.
我看了看Jeff
He opened his mouth and think just got luck or ** song.
他张着嘴 兴奋地唱着歌
And i just saw a big lubi go right down his throat and we had to take him to the hospital. We got tightly shocked.
我就看到一个利器戳入他的喉咙 我们送他进了医院 太吓人了
I think it's over simplified you got a lot of musicians let's say NIRVANA and Grunge Stated
我觉得华丽金属的衰落 被过于简单化地归结于NIRVANA和Grunge的兴起了
that played a part into only because almost all sorts of music get some point.
每种音乐都会到达某个点 某个极限
Their due date comes.
会有一个期限来临
And i think their due date for the bands of the eighty's that's gonna come to past
我认为八零年代的乐队在那时就要落伍了
It's a different generation that was come in and gone.
长江后浪推前浪啊
I can't get with this. I don't feel like that.
我简直无法理解 太突然了
I don't feel like i've past a good time. I just don't.
我不觉得我过得很好
I can't blame them for that. I'm mad at anybody for that. You know what i mean?
我不能指责干掉我们的人 但我很生气
I remember the ninety was being a really bad time for metal.
九零年代对于金属乐来说非常艰难了
If you are a metal head like me, you do really have much to be proud of.
但如果你像我一样是个金属乐迷 仍然有很多值得骄傲的事情
Not only Glam had been disappeared here but fresh are died and Grunge was the new thing.
华丽金属和时代过去了 垃圾摇滚翻开了新的一页
So what i always want to know is
因此我一直想知道的是
what happened to the lives of metal musicians especially the Glam Metalers
当华丽金属褪去光环后
once this music had faded out.
乐手的生活如何
While the 90s was the most difficult time for you and Poison by comparing to the 80s?
相较80年代，90年代对于你和Poison的成员是不是很难？
I felt that i will get out of music.
我当时觉得我要离开音乐行业
I'm gonna for a little while go do what i've always wanna done.
我要去做之前我一直想做的事
I'm gonna go work on comic books.
我要去做幽默喜剧书籍
I could not contribute to what Nirvana, SOUNDGARDEN, and those bands were doing.
我不能认同Nirvana, SOUNDGARDEN, 和其他乐队在做的事
It wasn't where i come from. It wasn't what i was feeling.
这不是我所熟悉的事情对此我完全没有认同感和归属感
It would have been dis-ingenious for me to put out a record that sound anything near like that.
对我来说那样的专辑太差了
That's when the bands disbanded and we went a separate ways.
乐队解散 大家各奔东西
It was just like, ok this is not gonna work.
好了 我们继续不下去了
The other guys worked other jobs and that's when i took on work at a family owned business
其他成员各自从事别的职业 我开始经营家庭生意
working in cranberry Bob business and cran-ground business.
以蔓越莓和蔓越莓田为生意来做
This year breaked out and i thought i was not gonna turning out in the 4 years.
这一年来的比我想象的来得早得多
So the ＊are going pretty quick.
有难临头各自谋生
We gonna buy some businesses. I bought a flower shop and a vending business.
我们必须做一点生意 我买了一个花店 也做自动贩卖生意
Next sandal, i'm buying 75 code machines and candy ball.
接着我买了75个代码机
And i have to service them.
并且护理保养他们
My hands smell like quoters and dollar bills for the next five years.
我的手每天闻起来都跟什么似的
I mean, pretty funny though.
挺神奇的
How you remember feeling at that time?
你当时感觉怎么样？
Felt like a shit, felt like a bubble gum shoot up and spilled on the ground.
糟糕极了 感觉像被人吐在地上的泡泡糖
We did so much for the label and also that i'm done for the studio*.
我们为乐队付出很多很多
I'd sell my houses and everyone through some financial difficulties.
我准备卖房子 每个人都经历一些财务困难
It was sort like having a girlfriend dumping at us.
就好像被女朋友甩了
...like better knowing it. Having the heads up.
必须抬起头来
Automaticly when their time was upper feel like as far as MTV and FM radio, most of the bands are gone at their fanjury* that period.
在他们于电视和音乐录影带的鼎盛时期过去后 大多数乐队都被淘汰了
We are able to drag themselves out of that hair metal a beg.
我们要为华丽金属留些纪念
I mean touch with Tom. He's still a great friend. And a put on a demo
我跟Tom联系 他算是一个好朋友 我放了
that he had just done. And some kids who working for me came and said:
他刚做好的demo母带 跟我一起工作的孩子们说
Man, that's great, who is this? And i said: Cinderella.
这太棒了 是谁？ 我说 灰姑娘乐队
And they said: oh...
他们觉得很新鲜
Enough said.
这就足够了
So i'm here on the old courts of bowls Maryland for the M3 festival
这次我到马里兰参加这个怀旧意味的M3音乐节（80年代乐队音乐为主）
where Vince Neil, Cinderella, Winger, Warrant and all these 80s hair metal bands have come to play.
Vince Neil, Cinderella, Winger和Warrant等80年代华丽金属乐团都来了
And so far ressembles a little bit more like a giant barbecue
目前看来这里更像是一个大型的烧烤派对
than a rock festival so we gotta go and figure out why people are here.
而不是摇滚音乐节 所以我们就一起来看看人们到这儿来的原因
Do you think people are here for the nostalgia to relief that time or why do you think people are here?
为什么你觉得人们到这儿来？是为了怀念过去的华丽金属岁月吗？
I think so, they just wanna have a good time and live these back over again. Cuz it was great.
我觉得确实如此 他们想来玩儿 纪念一下过去 因为那确实挺棒的
Hot guys, long hair, rock n' roll metal.
因为有帅咖 长发和摇滚明星啊
It's fine and foul. He's 45 and i still love hime
非常棒非常疯狂 他45岁了 我还是那么爱他
He got the hair -I know, he's awesome. That's why i love him.
－他就是长发 －是他很帅 这就是我爱他的原因
-Even though we move on with our lives. -He's been stay with us.(That's what daddy suck about it)
－即使生活还是继续 华丽金属成为过去 －他们还是和我们在一起
-I think that the advent of things like the rocker never stop
－我觉得像“摇滚不死”
and rock the home up and all those events
或者“摇滚归来”这样的活动
It really was like a throw back to the 80s.
确实感觉回到了8年代
I think that it's safe to say that the great majority, the audience were die hard fans
我觉得可以说来的歌迷都是死忠粉
that were there in the 80s when it all started.
他们从80年代华丽金属出现时就追随
There's no resurgence, it's just that those bands are still willing to go out there and work at any cost.
这不是再度崛起 只是这些乐队愿意无条件地再出来演出
whatever level that they can.It's really payroll. Fun but it's payroll.
只要他们可以 这是给工资的 很有趣但必须有工资
Hair metal never recruited a younger generation into it and so there is not hair metal community.
华丽金属从来没有加入新的一代 所以并没有形成社群
It's rooted in the nostalgia today.
现在它的意义就是怀旧了
We are gonna take you back to the 1980s six of the car track record.
我们将带你回到80年代的六首劲歌金曲
First that what you help break big for us. This is called "I won't forget you". Let's do it!
第一首就让你们嗨到火星 《I won't forget you》 来吧
Do you worry that people will just see you as a nostalgia, retro act?
你会担心观众仅仅把你们看作怀旧 复古的演出吗
Is that a concern?
担心吗
Right, right this is many we are as nostalgia，
是啊我们确实是怀旧的
i mean i have to be honest with myself because you know
我们必须诚实面对自己
we are playing our old songs, we are not playing anything new.
我们确实在表演老歌 并没有什么新东西
So that's nostalgia.
所以确实是怀旧
Today's festival in Counting Fair Circuit has helped many Glam Metal bands to keel the music alive
今天在Counting Fair Circuit的音乐节让华丽金属复苏
for audiences across america.
对于美国的乐迷来说
But this isn't the only way that glam metalers have managed to stay in the public eye.
但这不是唯一让华丽金属乐人留在公众视线的方法
Hey i'm Bret Michaels everybody. And it is been Smoke in Hot.
嗨大家好我是Bret Michaels 这里是Smoke in Hot节目
Also i can nail down 20 of the finest women you ever seen
在这里我将约会你看到的妞中最美的那个
to find my one true rock of love
来找到真正的摇滚之爱
Why you think these guys have translated so well to reality television?
为什么你们的电视真人秀节目转型会如此成功？
While they are stars so they are gonna translate in most medias.
因为他们是明星 他们会通过媒体转型
like our Bret Michaels. He's always gonna be a star no matter what he does.
就像Bret Michaels 无论他做什么他都是明星
I think the main thing that is driving glam metal stars into television and reality television is kind of a timing issue.
我认为使华丽金属乐人向电视真人秀转型是一个时机问题
Television and music videos made Poison, made Motley Crue.
电视和音乐录像带造就了Poison 造就了Motley Crue
And so because of that you see these guys saying: Yeah i will do television.
因此这些家伙会说要转型去做电视
They became rock stars for a reason. They went into this for the agulation, for the crowds.
他们为了歌迷或者 而成为摇滚明星
I really feel like they need to go on the television to show they are still here.
我觉得他们还是需要上电视告诉观众他们还在这儿
Hey this is Sebastian Bach.
嗨我是Sebastian Bach.
No this will not be your average show.
不 这可不是你们的秀
I think all this celebrity rock n' roll thing started with Ozzy with the show The Osbournes.
我觉得摇滚乐人的名人效应是从Ozzy开始的 从《奥斯本一家》开始
The Osbournes：美国一档真人秀节目，讲述Ozzy及其家庭的故事
That was the first time that heavy metal musician was outside of metal in the public eye doing something.
这是第一次重金属乐人以非音乐的理由出现在公众面前
我老婆自己有档真人秀节目就叫“我嫁给了塞巴斯蒂安·巴赫” My wife had her own show. "I Married Sebastian Bach"
可能是她表现最好的演出 which is the number one show that i don't know.
It was classified as a drama, a whore, a comedy or all the above.
它被归类为戏剧 色情表演 喜剧 或者都有
I like making albums.
我喜欢做专辑
That's what i do in all these or those stuff happens,
在唱片时代我就是喜欢出专辑
when people stop buying CDs you know.
在人们不再买CD之前
Well you got TV show, let's go.
那现在有了电视节目 为什么不去做呢
If you wanna know the truth. I don't do them cuz i want to do them.
如果你想知道真相的话 并不是因为我想做而去做
I laugh when they put me on the TV show, i'm like....
当他们把我放上电视 我大笑 就好像这样
I'm just gonna take all your money and put it in the metal.
我只是要把你们的钱拿去继续做金属乐
Thank you for your money, cuz i'm putting it on the stage.
谢谢你们的钱 我要同它打造金属乐的舞台
Hello! You have made it!
嗨 你找到我们了
Although reality TV is proving a perfect match for some glam metal front man
虽然电视真人秀节目与一些华丽金属人很契合
not all glam metalers have found success on prime time television and manage to reinvent their careers.
并不是所有人都在七点档电视节目中得以成功的转型
So how are these bands making ends meet when they're not playing the stulgous* or in the festivals circuit?
那么他们在不演出的情况下又是如何谋生的呢
He is a good barbecuer though, i have to say.
他是个烧烤神手 我不得不承认
I had to pour some vodka on it. It will be better.
要是我在上面浇上些伏特加 味道绝佳
This might be my new career man. Food network.
这可能是我未来的职业 网络端外卖食物
We were playing 40 shows a year that means i have about 200 days off.
我们一年大概有40个左右的演出活动 这意味着我有200天的空闲
A year for last eighteen years dude.
一年出名 十八年寂静
So i said what can i do to make some money to keep busy.
我自问 怎么能赚钱 让自己忙起来呢
So i started working in a high-end guitar shop.
于是我开始经营高端吉他店铺
I love guitar. I love gear.
我喜欢吉他 喜欢机械
So i do that a few days a week as well now.
所以现在我一周有几天呆在店里
And on the weekends, we will go play at some festivals.
然后周末有一些演出
It's an interesting perspective that you go play for thousands of people as the rock star,
挺有意思的 有时你是为千万人演出的摇滚明星
and i come home at Sunday and Tuesday you gonna be at work.
周日回到家 周二就变身上班族
-Why do think so many of those bands came up at that L.A scene died Off?
你觉得为什么那么多洛杉矶的乐队走向衰落？
-That's easier to die off, it's just stick around and fight it out and be tenacious and not give up
－走向衰落是很容易的 必须要坚持 顽强才能存活
and just be like glad for punishment.
乐观面对挫折
Quitting was just never an option. There was many in knight
放弃永远不是一个选项 必须要坚持
I just said: oh shoot me in the head. I can't take it.
我有的时候累到说 一枪崩了我吧 我受不了了
Why you do this at this time in your life?
为什么这么选择
While i will never be dude of Poison forever you know.
你知道我不可能永远靠Poison活
I'm not any younger so who knows, maybe we will be the Glam Metal rolling stone but
我已经不年轻了 可能我们还是华丽金属老顽童
i decided to start my own company with my name: Rockett Drum works.
但我决定开始我的公司 Rockett鼓业
Put my name on it. You know what i mean?
我要以我的名字命名 你懂吗
I'm here. Punch me if i do the wrong thing.
我在这儿呢 如果我们做得不好尽管冲着我来
I feel like again i can bring something to the table.
我觉得我能做出一点事情来
I feel like it's something that i can turn over to my son on day.
做些以后能向我儿子显摆的事情
I can't really do that with Poison.
我不能靠Poison来做到这些事
I really get excited about making a guy's dream come true.
帮人一起完成梦想真的很酷
Cuz i'm a person that really understand.
因为我懂这行懂鼓
What's the balance of priority for you right now, Poison and Drum works?
在乐队和鼓行两者主要的平衡点是什么
While Poison's obviously my priority because i know that's how i can make money. It's been by life's work.
当然是乐队更重要 我的主要经济来源 我一生的事业
But this is more about craftsmanship. I'm from Pennsylvania and it was a very working class
这不仅仅是一个工艺 我来自宾州 这些是上档次的作品
early in the country. I came out here started dancing around, the Hollywood trying to be a rock star.
就是在那里我开始发迹 混迹好莱坞 渴望成为摇滚明星
I left a little bit that behind, but it really is in me.
虽然已经过去了 但那是我身体的一部分
I think it's sort of just add to the story of Glam Metal that allowed these guys to move on
我觉得这些被加在华丽金属的故事中让乐手继续生活下去
and with someone like Rikki he's managed to build a second career.
像Rikki他们都成就了自己的副业
I think we have this sumption that did their things in the 80s and they're all washed up and done.
我们可以认同的是 一切都发生在80年代 停留在80年代
and you know some of them are.
一些乐手确实是这样的
But some of them aren't.
但是也有一些乐手不是
The bands that survived. Most of the bands that automately worked just in it for the looks and life style.
大多数存活下来的乐队是因为外形和理念取胜
Say what you want about Poison affected. The fact, the matter is that
比如Poison 事实上
guy like Rikki he had a vision for what they were going to be.
Rikki对他们乐队有很清晰的规划
Even though i'm still not a fan of Glam Metal, and can't stanly outfit.
虽然我依然不是华丽金属粉 尤其是他们的服装
Many Glam Metal bands are not boy bands. I thought they were.
我之前认为他们这些华丽金属乐队都只是小男生乐队 其实不是
After meeting with these musicians, i have some fame respect for their commitment for their music.
见了这些音乐人后 我对他们对于音乐的执着有些敬佩
And i admire their determination to spy the views from die hard metalers like myself.
我敬佩他们为华丽金属死忠粉演出的决心
Glam Metal is clearly a much more important part of the evolution of heavy metal than i ever gave a credit for.
华丽金属在金属音乐进化史上的推动作用比我想象中要大得多