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两百周年纪念帽出售 Bicentennial hats here!
两百周年纪念帽 Bicentennial hats.
打扰 你感到高涨的爱国情绪吗？ Excuse me, do you feel patriotic
爱国情绪不是我现在真正的感觉 Patriotic is... is not the real feeling that I have right now.
人们喜欢两百周年纪念帽 我就卖给他们 People like bicentennial hats, I sell 'em bicentennial hats.
女士们先生们 今天天气晴朗 Uh-huh. Ladies and gentlemen, of this beautiful day
两百周年纪念日 我们就在纽约下城 and this bicentennial day, right here, downtown in New York City,
女士们先生们 ladies and gentlemen.
小乔瑟夫·哈特利 来自纽约的词曲作家 Joseph Hurdley Jr., songwriter of New York City.
否则的话 山姆大叔我就要唱 Otherwise, Uncle Sam is going to sing
自己版本的《星条旗》了 one of his versions of "The Star-Spangled Banner."
女士们先生们 《星条旗》 配上新的曲调 Ladies and gentlemen, "The Star-Spangled Banner" with new music.
弗朗西斯·斯科特·基作词 小乔瑟夫·哈特利作曲 Words by Francis Scott Key and music by Joseph Hurdley Jr.,
献给美国的未来 上帝保佑共和国 dedicated to the future of America, God save the republic.
准备好了吗指挥老师？ Are you ready, maestro
没有指挥老师 那我就自己唱了 No maestros I'll sing it myself.
哦 你可看见 透过一线曙光 O say, can you see By the dawn's early light
只卖一美元 It's one dollar.
快来买吧 Get your copies here.
我一共有四个版本… I've got four versions of...
嘿 铃鼓手先生 Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man
请为我演奏一曲 Play a song for me
我并无倦意 也无处要去 I'm not sleepy And there is no place I'm going to
嘿 铃鼓手先生 Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man
请为我演奏一曲 Play a song for me
在这叮当作响中的早晨 In the jingle jangle morning
我将追随你而去 I'll come followin' you
虽然我知道夜晚的帝国 Though I know that evenin's empire
已归于尘土 Has returned into sand...
我们齐聚在这个历史性的地方 We're gathered in this historic house
共同庆祝美国成立两百周年 for the celebration of the 200th anniversary
of the United States,
我想引用在签署《独立宣言》时 but I refer to the words that were spoken
在场的人士所说的话 by those who at the time of the Declaration of Independence
想到美国的使命 thought of the mission of America,
美国对世界意味着什么 what America could mean to the world.
其中有个人说到 我们并不只是为我们自己行动 And one of them said that we act not just for ourselves,
而是为全人类行动 but for all mankind.
（我们人民 第1条） Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man
（1976年新精神） Play a song for me...
西贡陷落了 Saigon had fallen.
人们似乎已经失去了对于 People had seemed to, uh, lost their sense of,
uh, conviction for...
几乎一切事物的信念 for just about anything.
嘿 铃鼓手先生… Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man...
有很多争论 关于美国 Lot of arguments about why...
为什么会被逐出越南 America was chased out of Vietnam...
而且是以如此羞辱性的形式 in such a humiliating way.
一个月里就有两人试图刺杀总统 Two people tried to shoot the president in one month.
带我登上你有魔法的… Take me on a trip Upon your magic...
让我们设立1976年的目标 Let us set for our goal in 1976
在美国精神领域继续前进 to move forward in the realm of the American spirit.
My hands can't feel to grip
在座所有人所拥有的机会 That the opportunity that everybody in this room has had...
是一个可以实现的梦想 is something that is a realizable dream
是可以达成的 that can be achieved
对于所有运气足够好 出生在这个国家的人 for anyone who has the good fortune to be born in this country,
对于所有运气足够好 来到这个国家的人来说 or anyone who has the good fortune to come to this country.
…消失在我自己的游行队伍中 Ready for to fade Into my own parade...
当时的想法是搞一个巡演 The idea was to put a tour up,
将各种不同的风格聚集在一起 combination of different acts on the same stage
包括一系列不同的音乐风格 for a variety of, uh, musical styles.
我不会称其为传统意义上的巡演 I wouldn't say it was a, uh, traditional revue,
但确实是传统的… but it was in the, uh, traditional... um...
巡演的形式 form of, uh, of a revue.
这么描述很笨拙 愚蠢 That's all clumsy bullshit.
-好的 -你知道 - Okay. - Y'know.
我想要试着 - So what... - I'm trying to get to the...
聊到核心问题 To the core thing.
这个滚雷巡演的核心究竟是什么 To the core of what this Rolling Thunder thing is all about,
我完全没想法 and I don't have a clue,
因为没有核心意义 because it's not... It's about nothing.
只是40年前发生的一件事 It's a... It's just something that happened 40 years ago.
-事实如此 -不如就从这个角度说吧？ And that's the truth of it.
可以 - Why don't we go down that road - Okay, we can.
-来吧 -好的 来吧 Let's go. I don't remember a thing about Rolling Thunder.
我对于滚雷巡演一点印象都没有 All right, let's go.
-好 -这个发生在 - Okay. - I mean, it... it happened
太久之前了 我都还没出生 so long ago, I wasn't even born, you know
你想知道些什么？ Uh, I... So, what do you wanna know
带着我消失在 And take me disappearing
我意识圈里 Through the rings of my mind
穿越浓雾笼罩的时间废墟 Down the foggy ruins of time
越过冻结的树叶 Far past the frozen leaves
鬼魂缠扰的可怕的树木 The haunted, frightened trees
走近狂风阵阵的海滩 Out to the windy beach
疯狂的悲伤无法触及的地方 Far from the twisted reach Of crazy sorrow
是的 在钻石天空之下起舞 Yes, to dance beneath the diamond sky
一只手自由地挥舞 With one hand waving free
倒影映在海里 Silhouetted by the sea
被沙滩围绕 Circled by the circus sands
所有的记忆和命运 With all memory and fate
都淹没在浪底 Driven deep beneath the waves
让我忘却今日 直到明天 Let me forget about today Until tomorrow
嘿 铃鼓手先生 Hey! Mr. Tambourine Man
请为我演奏一曲 Play a song for me
I'm not sleepy...
Is that Bob Dylan That is Bob Dylan!
生活并不是关于寻找自己 Life isn't about finding yourself...
或寻找任何东西的 or finding anything.
生活是关于自我创造 Life is about creating yourself.
今晚上台？ - Playing tonight -
以及创造别的东西 And creating things.
我想介绍另一位优秀的 And I want to introduce another fine...
歌手登上民谣城的舞台 entertainer here at Folk City,
所以大家… so everybody...
1975年夏天 Summer, 1975.
纽约出现了奇怪的景象 It was a very odd scene in New York.
不同寻常 所谓的民谣时代已经过去 还是没有？ Unusual. Sort of. The folk era had died out. Or did it
琼·贝兹和她的朋友鲍勃·迪伦 Joan Baez and her friend Bob Dylan!
让我们掌声欢迎琼·贝兹… Let's have a nice hand for Joan Baez...
有传言说 Rumor came around that the inspired Dylan was back,
有灵感的迪伦回来了
他的势力全部聚集到了一起 gathering all... all his forces.
我所说的一切 When ev'rything that I'm sayin'
你都能说得一样好 You can say it just as good
Woo!
很快他们就都凑在了一起 And pretty soon, they were all jamming together
就好像是年轻的音乐人们在一起 享受乐趣 as if they were young musicians having fun,
彼此之间直接接触 actually in direct contact with each other.
And all the hills echoèd
我的名字叫胡安娜诺·德卡斯特罗 My name is Juanano de Castro
我的父亲是一名西班牙贵族 Lord... My father was a Spanish grandee
抱歉 打扰一下 Excuse me, please!
我们时间不多了 我想要向大家介绍 We're really running short of time. I wanna introduce...
帕蒂·史密斯和埃里克·安德森 Miss Patti Smith and Eric Anderson.
大家掌声欢迎 Let's have a nice hand.
就是他 上台来吧 Let's hear it! Get up here!
有一个… There was a...
有一个弓箭手 There was an archer...
弓箭手爱上了他的妹妹 There was an archer who was in love with his sister.
弓箭手看着她妹妹 So, the archer looked at his sister
说道 and he said,
“我们俩之间的疯狂 是非常私密的事情” "All the madness between me and you is real private."
但他妹妹太害怕了 所以她 But the sister was too scared, so the sister...
妹妹嫁给了苏丹 the sister married the sultan.
于是弓箭手就加入了国王的队伍 So the archer became a... the archer for the king.
大婚之夜 苏丹和妹妹 So, it was the wedding night, and the sultan and the sister
即将成婚 were gonna get married.
于是 And so...
弓箭手穿着盔甲走出门去 the archer went out the door, and he had on his armor,
走了出去 and he was going. There was all, like...
大家知道16世纪土地模样吧 You know how like the gran... ground was in 16th-century
像国际象棋的棋盘一样 黑色和绿色相交 It was black and green like a chessboard.
弓箭手走在棋盘黑色的部分上 So the archer was walking on the black part of the chessboard,
他看着棋盘的黑色部分 and he looked at the black part of the chessboard,
看起来像是她妹妹黑色的头发 and it looked like the back of his sister's hair.
于是 And so...
你们懂的 You know how it is.
Yeah.
总而言之 看起来真是…一团糟 Anyway, it looked... Oh, what a mess.
看起来像是他妹妹的头发 Looked like the back of his sister's hair,
所以他无法前进 继续做国王的弓箭手了 and so he couldn't advance and be the king's archer no more,
因为他看向宫殿 在宫殿里 because he looked over at the palace, and over at the palace,
他看到他的妹妹在宽衣解带 he saw his sister undressing
为苏丹宽衣解带 for the sultan.
于是王子就除下了他的所有盔甲 So the prince took off a... took off all his armor,
开始朝宫殿走去 and he started walking toward the palace.
开始朝另一个方向走去 He started walking in another direction,
开始朝另一个维度走去 started walking in another dimension,
开始朝另一个维度走去 started walking in another dimension.
转移到了另一个维度 He moved in another dimension.
我移向了另一个维度 I move in another dimension
继续走着 And he kept on walking
走得非常慢 And he walked real slow
他是摇滚界的第一位弓箭手 Here is the first archer
In rock 'n' roll
他向宫殿走去 He walked toward the palace
向宫殿前进着 Toward the palace of answers
他迈着大步 He took big steps
他用七种方式走着 He walked seven ways
他解放了元素 He freed the elements
龙卷风从他的手中喷薄而出 The hurricane just burst From his hands
你是我的阳光 You are my sunshine
我唯一的阳光 - My only sunshine - Let's go!
天空灰暗时你让我开心起来 You make me happy When skies are gray - Whoopee!
你永远都不会知道 亲爱的 我有多… You'll never know, dear How much I...
十月 十一月的时候 October, November, uh...
迪伦可能有想法要做些事情 Dylan might have some idea to do something.
有点像诈骗犯 Sort of like a... con man,
做那种老式的药品宣传巡演 carny medicine show of old,
坐着巴士或者马车 where you just get in a bus and go from town...
在不同城市之间穿梭 or a carriage, and go from town to town.
感觉迪伦是想要带我们去 他想要试着 It's like Dylan is taking us out to try and give us each... He's presenting us.
这是他的设想 I mean, that's his conception. I mean, it hasn't been made overt.
并没有公开 His idea is, uh...
他的想法是
想展现出他自己多么美丽 to show how beautiful he is...
通过展现出我们的美丽 ...by showing how beautiful we are...
通过展现出整个 by showing how beautiful...
表演团体的美来做到 the ensemble is.
也就是展现出真正的社区 So, it's to show the actual community.
这就是生活方式 这就是诗人的生活方式 Which is way... the way... the way life is, the way that life of poets is.
我住在一个公寓里 I live in an apartment
水槽漏水漏进墙里 Sink leaks through the walls
下东区到处是床虱子 Lower East Side full of bedbugs
大厅里到处是瘾君子 Junkies in the halls
房子被入室抢劫 House been broken into
西藏的唐卡被人偷走 Tibetan thangkas stole
抽冰毒的拿走了我的雕像 Speed freaks took my statues
让我的爱情变成了蠢事 And made my love a fool
抽冰毒的拿走了我的雕像 Speed freaks took my statues
让我的爱情变成了蠢事 And made my love a fool
-你们还想听吗？ -好 - Do you wanna hear more or... - Yeah.
有个大型的试音活动 I got this big audition.
艾伦·金斯堡在公寓里搞了个派对 There was this party at Allen Ginsberg's apartment.
你就是在那里见到的迪伦？ And that's where you met Dylan
是的 Uh, yes.
你觉得他怎么样？ - What did you think of him - Uh, Dylan was fine.
迪伦挺好的
有很多疯狂的人 都嗑嗨了 都去见他 There were all these crazy people,
all getting high and coming up to him
转得越来越快 鲍勃并没有反应 and spinning faster and faster, and Bob didn't react.
我觉得他就在一旁观察了整件事 I think he just, uh, watched the whole thing.
我觉得他喜欢这种混乱 I think he liked the chaos.
我是个放荡又杂乱的男孩 I am a rake and a rambling boy
有好多城市我喜欢 There's many a city I did enjoy
（排练录音室） - Woo!
但我现在娶了个更好的妻子 But now I married me a better wife
我爱她胜过爱生命 And I love her dearer Than I love my life
我的想法是为整个演出组织一个 My idea was to have a kind of a jug band,
即兴的坛罐乐队 uh, for the whole show,
类似于吉姆·夸斯金的坛罐乐队那样 something, uh, along the lines of maybe, uh, Kweskin Jug Band...
但没有实现 but that didn't happen.
他们当时正在SIR录音室彩排 They were in the middle of the rehearsals at SIR Studio,
我和李维谈过 他问迪伦说，我能不能拍摄排练时的幕后花絮 and I talked to Levy, and he asked Dylan if it was all right for me to shoot
B-roll of the rehearsal.
迪伦说可以 但李维告诉我没有预算了 Dylan was all right with it, but Levy told me there was no budget.
因为我觉得这会有很好的发展 Because I thought that this was really going to go somewhere,
于是我拿出了自己所有积蓄 全部自掏腰包 I took all the money that I had,and I paid for everything out of my own pocket.
鲍勃喜欢你吗？ - Did Bob like you
不知道 谁知道呢？ I don't know, who knows
就像照镜子一样 He was... It was like looking into a mirror.
你要么看到了你想看到的东西 要么就讨厌你看到的东西 You either saw what you wanted to see, or you hated what you saw.
我可以告诉你一点 I can tell you this, back then I used to,
我会这样拿欧洲风格 and I held mine like this, you know, the European style.
在金斯堡家的那晚过后 鲍勃也开始这样拿了 After that night at Ginsberg's, Bob started holding it like that, too.
这是我带的头 That was me.
丽塔·梅 Rita May, Rita May
你是如何成为这样的？ How did you ever get that way
你何时见到过光？ When'd you ever see the light
你为何从不害怕？ Don't you ever feel afraid
你让我辗转反侧 犹豫不决 You got me burning and a-turning
但我知道我肯定在长进 But I know I must be learning
丽塔·梅 Rita May
我没有感觉到喜爱 And I don't sense affection
没有感激也没有爱 No gratitude or love
你的忠诚不属于我 Your loyalty is not to me
而是属于天上的星辰 - But to the stars above - Yeah!
再来杯咖啡上路 One more cup of coffee for the road
在我走之前再来杯咖啡 One more cup of coffee 'fore I go
敬下方的山谷 To the valley below
我去了下东区一个爵士乐音乐人家 I was going to a jazz musician friend of mine house
in the Lower East Side,
正要过马路的时候 一辆车拦住了我 and I was just about to cross the street, and a car cut me off.
是鲍勃 It was Bob.
是迪伦 It was Dylan.
而且 And...
从来没有用语言表达出 It was never verbalized.
我认识他 或者说他认识我 I knew who he was, or he knew I knew.
只是遇上了 Just sort of passed, you know.
我们没日没夜地玩起了音乐 We just played music all day and all night.
我们去底线录音室 和马迪·沃特斯一起做音乐 We went to The Bottom Line and played with Muddy Waters,
那天晚上 我们去了维多利亚·斯皮维家 and we went that night to Victoria Spivey's house.
她是个布鲁斯歌手 She's an old blues singer.
我们一起玩音乐玩到早上六点 And, um...
we played music till about six in the morning.
非常棒 It was really great.
她穿着高领毛衣 She wears a turtleneck sweater
和尼龙鞋 And a nylon shoe
她穿着高领毛衣 She wears a turtleneck sweater
和尼龙鞋 And a nylon shoe
她什么都说 There's nothing she won't say
什么都做 And there's nothing that she won't do
有52个人 如果每个人都问他行不行 There are 52 people. If each person asks him is he okay,
他就需要很长的时间来回答问题 it becomes a long, hard question and answer period for him.
灯光有没有干扰到他？ Is the light bothering him
吉他行不行？ Is the guitar right
他喜不喜欢这个照明？ Does he like the lighting
监听器行不行 Is the sound monitor okay
他是个大人物 他知道自己想要什么 He's a big man, and he knows what he wants.
不要哭 亲爱的 No llores, mi querida
上帝看着我们呢 Dios nos vigila
马儿很快就会带我们到达杜兰戈 Soon the horse will take us to Durango
1米77 Five ten.
-1米77？ -对 - Five ten - Yeah.
他是做什么工作的？ So what does he do
他是个导演 He's a director.
戏剧导演 Theater.
戏剧导演？ Theater
但不是… But that's not...
所以我才说很难搞 因为这不是婚姻 对不对？ That's why I'm saying it's tricky because it's not marriage, is it
除非你指的是… I mean, unless you actually make it...
我的意思是 也许和戏剧结婚了？ Well, I mean, maybe marriage to the theater.
当你说婚姻的时候 But when you said marriage,
我假定你指的是两个人之间的婚姻 I assumed you... you meant marriage between two people.
-是 -是不是？ - Yeah. - Did you
不是 是心理上的婚姻 Well, no, mental marriage.
-心理上的婚姻？ -是 - Mental marriage - Yeah.
那就有趣了 Ah, well, that's interesting.
有些人谈到未来 Some speak of the future
我的爱人说话声轻柔 My love, she speaks softly
因为失败就是最好的成功 'Cause there's no success like failure
而失败根本不算成功 And failure's no success at all
Hey!
我在为《滚石杂志》写东西 I'm doing a... a thing on a tour for Rolling Stone magazine.
-是 -嗯 - Yes. - Okay
我看到鲍勃离开了 And... And basically, I saw Bob leave,
然后 uh, after that...
你和他的那场对话 关于婚姻的对话 uh, um, the dialogue you did with him, the marriage thing.
是 Yes.
他对一个摄像师说 And he said to one of the cameramen,
“很火辣 这是一个很火辣的场景” "That is hot. That was a hot scene."
-对 -哦 我很荣幸 我很感动 - Okay. - Oh, I'm really flattered. I'm touched.
我想知道 Okay, now, look, I... I... I just wanna know,
是如何发生的？是预先安排的吗？ how did... how did it happen I mean, was it set up
-发生就… -是事先安排好的吗？ - It happened... No. - Was it a set up scene
完全是即兴发挥 It was totally spontaneous.
我正要去厕所 I was on my way to the bathroom...
是 Yeah.
途中梅尔·霍华德介绍我 认识了鲍勃·迪伦 ...when, uh, on my way, uh, Mel Howard introduced me to Bob Dylan.
你说了什么？ What... What did you say And what was your point...
你和鲍勃的谈话 - What did I say to... - In the conversation to Bob
-意义何在？ -我说了什么？
就是一种随意的… Well, it was a sort of free...
-从一件事谈到另一件事 -随便聊聊？ - uh, going from one thing to another. - Freewheeling
并非特意要谈那个 - Freewheeling. - It wasn't...
It wasn't meant to be specifically... specifically that.
但你们开始谈论起了婚姻 Yeah, but you started talking about marriage.
完全出乎意料的 Out of the blue,
-但你说了什么？ -突然就提到了婚姻的话题 - the subject of marriage came up. - But what did you say
聚过来吧各位 Come gather 'round, fellers
多么年轻 多么优秀 So young and so fine
不要去矿井之下 And seek not your fortune
寻找财富 Down in the mine
会形成… It will form...
你的想法是不是要把巡演的幕后花絮 拍成电影？ Was the idea to make a behind-the-scenes film of the tour
我觉得这是他们期待的东西 I think that's what they were expecting.
他们以为我只是会拍一部音乐会电影 They just thought that I was going to make it a concert film,
但我其实想要拍出更严肃的东西来 but I was trying to make something really serious out of this.
首先我想表现的是 音乐人互相合作 共同创造音乐 First, what I wanted to show was musicians working together,
他们只是在做本职工作 making music together.
That was them doing their job.
就像是 That was, you know,
我去我爸爸的鞋店拍摄他一样 that was as if I went to film my father in his shoe store.
聚焦在这个上面 Focus in on that.
那是什么 帕蒂？ What is that, Patti
我看了这本兰波的书 I seen th... this Rimbaud book,
看到了这张照片 and I saw this picture.
《时尚》杂志上的照片 I saw this vogue picture, and I thought it looked like you,
我觉得看起来挺像你的 我觉得他是个秀气的小伙子 - and I thought he was a neat guy, y'know - Yeah
-是 -我觉得你也挺秀气的 And I thought you were neat, so I used to, like, pretend he was my boyfriend.
我之前会假装他是我男朋友
或者你是我男朋友 这不重要 对吧？ Or if... Or if you were. You know, it doesn't matter, right
所以… So anyway...
你说了什么？ What did you say
我说了什么？ - What did I say - Yeah.
我表达了我的想法 他提到了 I gave my thoughts on...
心理的婚姻 He spoke about mental marriage.
-然后他问我… -心理婚姻？ - When he asked me... - Mental marriage
超人拿起一块煤 Uh, Superman takes a piece of coal,
放在手中 and he puts it in his hand, and he starts squeezing it,
开始挤 and squeezing it,
用力挤 and squeezing it, and squeezing it,
然后就变成了钻石 and then it becomes like a diamond.
-非常坚硬 -是 - It's real hard. - Yeah.
然后如果他扔到了地上 And then, like, he drops it on the ground,
-扔到了棒球场上 -是 - on the baseball diamond. - Yeah.
-孩子们不停地踢来踢去 -是 And the kids, the kids keep kicking it, the kids keep kicking it.
会变得越来越圆 - Yeah. - Then it goes round and round.
经年累月 孩子们一直踢来踢去 And after years and years of kids kicking it around,
会变得光滑 但没有…只是变了 it gets smooth, but it's not... It's just changed.
还是同样的钻石 只是变光滑了 It's still the same crystal, but it's smooth,
成了一个晶体球 so it's a crystal ball.
就在正中间 So it's sitting there in the middle,
这晶体球就在棒球场的正中间 the crystal ball is sitting there in the middle of the baseball diamond.
-是 -然后你可以朝里面看 - Right. - Okay Now you can look in.
我很讨厌一种人 I hated the ristelaars...
就是那些促进者 the, you know, the... the facilitators.
也就是围绕在他身边的那些人 You know, the... the people hanging around him.
假装自己有门路 People pretending that they had access,
这样就能表现得很糟糕 so that they could behave badly.
这部影片想要展现的就是 This film was going to show
参与巡演的多余的人员以及 the counterpoint between the... the excesses of the people
社会的分解之间的对比 on the tour and the dissolution of society.
大家一起来 - Come on, everybody. - Allen!
我想展现宠物岩石的收藏 I wanted to show the land of Pet Rocks
以及7-11便利店的超大杯思乐冰 and Super Slurpees from 7-Eleven.
美国及美国的精英 L'Amérique insolite.
我会随着滚雷巡演团上路 I would go on the road with the Rolling Thunder Revue.
就在这里 Right here.
周四见 See you Thursday.
这是个真实的故事 其实都是真实的故事 This is a true story. Actually, they're all true.
老天 真希望能按时赶到波士顿 Boy. Sure hope we get to Boston on time.
我娶了伊希斯女神 I married Isis
在五月五日那天 On the fifth day of May
但我无法 But I could not hold on
留住她很长时间 To her very long
于是我剪断了头发 So I cut off my hair
立刻骑马上路 And I rode straight away
前往未知的野外 For the wild, unknown country
在这里我不会犯错 Where I could not go wrong
我来到一个高高的地方 I came to a high place
充满了黑暗和光亮 Of darkness and light
分界线 The dividing line ran
穿越了城镇的中心 Through the center of town
我拉起我的小马 I hitched up my pony
去了右侧的一个地方 To a post on the right
走进一家洗衣店 Went into a laundry
洗了我的衣服 To wash my clothes down
角落有个人 A man in the corner
找我要火柴 Approached me for a match
我立刻就知道 I knew right away
他非同寻常 He was not ordinary
他说 你是不是 He said, "Are you looking
在寻找容易实现的东西？ For something easy to catch"
我说 我没钱 I said, "I got no money, man"
他说 这没必要 He said, "That ain't necessary"
我们当晚出发 We set out that night
前往寒冷的北方 For the cold in the north
我把毯子给了他 I gave him my blanket
他给了我回话 And he gave me his word
我说 我们要去哪儿？ I said, "Where we goin'"
他说 我们四号之前能回来 He said, "We be back by the fourth"
我说 这是我听过的 I said, "That's the best news
最好的消息 That I've ever heard"
我想着绿松石 I was thinkin' about turquoise
想着黄金 I was thinkin' about gold
我想着钻石 I was thinkin' about diamonds
和全世界最大的项链 And the world's biggest necklace
我们在极度的严寒中 As we rode through the canyons
骑行在大峡谷中 Through the devilish cold
我在想伊希斯 I was thinkin' about Isis
她觉得我非常鲁莽 How she thought I was so reckless
但她告诉我有一天 She told me, though, that one day
我们会再次相见 We would meet up again
我们下一次结婚时 And things would be different
情况就会不一样 The next time we wed
只要我能坚持住 If I could only just hang on
做她的朋友 And be her friend
我仍然记不得 I still can't remember
她说的最好的东西 All the best things she said
我们来到了嵌在冰中的金字塔 We came to the pyramids
All embedded in ice
他说 我想找 He said, "There's a body
一具尸体 That I'm tryin' to find
如果我能把它抬出来 If I carry it out
就能卖出好价钱 It'll bring a good price"
那时我才知道 'Twas then that I knew
他心里在想些什么 What he had on his mind
狂风咆哮 Well, the wind, it was howlin'
暴雪纷飞 And the snow was outrageous
我们在夜晚狂奔 We chopped through the night
狂奔到黎明 And we chopped through the dawn
他死的时候 我希望 When he died, I was hopin'
他的死亡不会传染 That it wasn't contagious
但我已下定决心 But I made up my mind
我必须继续前行 That I had to get on
我抬起他的尸体 I picked up his body
拖进了金字塔里 And I dragged him inside
把他丢进洞里 Threw him down in a hole
再盖上盖子 And I put back the cover
我快快地做了个祷告 I said a quick prayer
只是为了感到心满意足 Just to feel satisfied
然后我回去找伊希斯 Then I went back to find Isis
告诉她我爱她 Just to tell her I love her
她就在草地上 She was there in the meadow
从前小溪潺潺的草地 Where the creek used to rise
被睡意笼罩 Blinded by sleep
急需一张床 And in need of a bed
我从东方到来 I came in from the East
眼睛里带着阳光 With the sun in my eyes
我诅咒了她一次 I cursed her one time
然后继续骑行 Then I rode on ahead
她说 你去了哪儿？ She said, "Where you been"
我说 没什么特别的地方 I said, "No place special"
她说 你看起来不一样了 She said, "You look different"
我说 大概吧 I said, "Well, I guess"
她说 你离开过 She said, "You been gone"
我说 这很正常 I said, "That's only natural" She said, "You gonna stay"
她说 你会留下吗？
我说 如果你想要我留下的话 I said, "If you want me to, yeah!"
伊希斯 哦 伊希斯 Isis, oh, Isis
你是个神秘的孩子 You a mystical child
把我带到你身边的 What drives me to you
也是让我疯癫的东西 Is what drives me insane
我仍然记得 I still can remember
你微笑的样子 The way that you smiled
在五月五日 On the fifth day of May
在濛濛细雨之中 In the drizzlin' rain
嗨 鲍勃 Hi, Bob.
嗨 你们想做什么？采访吗？ - Hi, what you guys want An interview - Sure.
当然 - Ah, wh... - How was it, Bob
感觉如何 鲍勃？
什么感觉如何？ How was what
鲍勃对于巡演是如何评价的？ What did Bob say about the tour
我从来没有问他任何事 I never asked him anything because, you know,
因为他不肯回答直接提的问题 he wouldn't answer direct questions.
迪伦你真美 Dylan, you're beautiful.
鲍勃 Bob!
一个传奇人物来了 这不仅仅是一场摇滚乐演出 A legend is in town,and it's not just another... rock 'n' roll show.
（一年后）
的确是摇滚乐 I mean, it's rock 'n' roll,
但这是特别的活动 but it's a special event.
摇滚界一共有四五名传奇人物 where rock 'n' roll has four or five legends,
这就是其中一个 也许是现代最伟大的一个 this is one of them, and maybe the biggest one at the present time.
（迪伦于1966年停止了巡演）
（1974年 他与乐队合唱团回归 演出了几场 座无虚席）
不是自夸 但滚雷算是我提出来的 Not to brag, but Rolling Thunder was kinda my idea,
鲍勃几年前和乐队合唱团巡演过 you know.Bob had done that tour with The Band a few years back,
非常成功 然后克罗斯比、斯提尔斯 纳什和尼尔·杨 and that was super successful, and then Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young
每晚的五万人演出都座无虚席 were filling 50,000 seats a night.
齐柏林也很火 And Zeppelin was huge.
到处都有赚钱机会 I mean, there was money everywhere.
只需要弯腰就能捡到钱 You know, all you had to do was bend down, pick it up.
我就有个想法 有鲍勃参与的巡演 肯定会是个金矿 So, I had an idea that some kind of revue with Bob would be a gold mine.
所以我就去推荐了这个想法 So I went off and pitched the idea,
有一些地方的筹办人表示感兴趣 and a bunch of local promoters were interested.
推荐完之后 就募集了15个头牌人物 And then by the time I was done, I ended up with 15 headliners.
I'm gonna have to go to college 'Cause you are...
你自找的 Now you've asked for it!
我们冒了个大风险 We took a big risk. And, uh, you know,
得花钱请所有人 还要付酒店、餐饮 you had to put up the money, get everybody, you know, hotels, catering,
车辆 所有这些 还有大巴 cars, all this stuff, buses.
而且要让这些人保持开心 专注 And you had to keep all these guys happy and, you know, focused.
这个就是要上路前就积攒好的 And so... And that was, you loaded up before you went out on the road.
然后希望能赚钱 希望演出能成功 Then you hope you got paid. And you hope the show worked.
你和鲍勃有交流吗？ Did you have any interaction with Bob
我唯一见到鲍勃的时候 The only time I saw Bob was when he was onstage
就是他在台上演出 或者在开大巴 or driving the bus.
鲍勃很沉默寡言 You know Bob kept to himself.
为什么取了“滚雷巡演”这个名字？ How did it become "Rolling Thunder Revue"
我问过鲍勃 他说本来打算叫做 Well, I asked Bob. He said originally he was gonna call it
蒙特祖玛巡演的 Montezuma's Revue,
但是他在家 but then he said he was home,
想要给巡演想名字的时候 and he was just kind of trying to think of a name for the tour,
突然听到天空传来一声惊雷 when all of a sudden in the sky, he heard, "Boom!"
然后从左至右 And then, from left to right,
划过天空 punctuating the sky,
隆隆隆隆 "Boom, boom, boom, boom!"
于是他说：“不如就叫滚雷吧” So he said, "Hey, let's call it 'Rolling Thunder.'"
我们出发前 So before we even left,
切斯利·米丽金说： Chesley Millikin, who was on the tour, says,
“鲍勃 知道滚雷 对印第安人来说是什么意思吗？” "Bob, you know what 'rolling thunder' means to the Indians"
他说：“什么意思？” 切斯利说：“说实话” And he goes, "What, man" And Chesley goes, "Speaking truth."
鲍勃说：“很高兴听到 老兄” And then Bob goes, "I'm glad to hear that, man."
当然我们后来才知道 Of course, later on we found out that Rolling Thunder was actually
滚雷是尼克松轰炸柬埔寨行动的代号 the code name for, uh, Nixon's bombing of Cambodia.
而后备乐队叫关岛乐队 关岛则是轰炸行动出发的基地 And that Guam, the backup band, was the base that, uh, they took off from.
所以谁知道真实的缘由呢？ So, who knows what the real story is.
这是下周会在市里举办的 音乐会的宣传册 This is the leaflet for a concert they're having in town next week.
鲍勃·迪伦 琼·贝兹 和杰克·埃利奥特 Bob Dylan, Joan Baez, and Jack Elliott.
就在公民中心 Right in the Civic Center.
你懂的 我年纪太大了 不听这种了 You know me, I'm too old for that kind of stuff.
行吧 Oh, well.
没事 - Okay. - So...
你第一次听说鲍勃是什么时候？ when did you first hear about Bob
这听起来像是童话故事了 This is like a... a... It sounds like a fairy tale,
但很多… but all... a lot of the...
每次发生不会超过几天 It doesn't happen continuously for more than a few days at a time,
但我人生有很多部分 but a lot of my life,
我都感觉自己的人生是被保佑的 I feel like I really am leading a charmed life,
因为奇迹通常会接二连三的发生 because miracles start happening in threes or fours.
关于杰克·埃利奥特 我可以说的是 One thing I could tell you about Ramblin' Jack,
他更像是个水手 而不是歌手 he's more of a sailor than a singer.
他会系各种各样复杂的水手结 He can tie a bowline, a clove hitch, and he could tie a rolling hitch,
而且蒙着眼睛都能做到 all blindfolded.
如果你在船上或者帆船上 If you're ever on a boat or sailing ship,
你会宁愿杰克·埃利奥特作为水手 而不是歌手出现在船上 you would rather have Ramblin' Jack there as a sailor than a singer.
伦敦是个水手的好地方 Now, London is a fine town For sailors
加利福尼亚回到法国 California and back to France, so...
你宁愿做刚来美国的英国清教徒 还是印第安人？ Which would you rather be, the Pilgrims or the Indians
-清教徒 -为什么？ - Pilgrims. - Why the Pilgrims
为什么想做清教徒？ Why do you wanna be the Pilgrims
因为清教徒们登陆之后都成了蜡像 'Cause the Pilgrims all land and they turn into wax dolls,
然后下半辈子都以蜡像的形式存在 and they're wax dolls for the rest of the universe.
印第安人也是 So the Indians.
没错 Well, you know, the Indians, that's true... Well, we're all wax dolls, so...
我们都是蜡像
第一个音乐会将会在普利茅斯开 The first concert will take place in Plymouth...
就是当时清教徒们乘坐五月花号 第一个抵达的地方 Uh, where the, uh, Pilgrims stepped off their Mayflower.
而我们似乎是清教徒 We're... as if we're... we're Pilgrims.
在搜寻者的这个意义上说 Pilgrims in the sense of searchers,
是在寻找着某种国家 looking for the, uh, kingdom of a nation
也许意图不同 with maybe a different intention.
我觉得美国是一个诗歌的王国 Making America a kingdom of poetry,
诗歌的国度 a nation of poetry.
嘿 瞧瞧 Well, look at this. Look it.
你听说过鲍勃·迪伦吗？ Have you ever heard of Bob Dylan
-是 -是 我听说过鲍勃·迪伦琼·贝兹 - Yeah. - Yeah, I've heard of Bob Dylan, Joan Baez,
鲍勃·内斯 Bob Neuwirth.
...performing at Memorial Auditorium. Anybody
Pass 'em out.
我离开了罗马 I left Rome
来到了布鲁塞尔 And pulled into Brussels
坐着飞机 On a plane ride
颠簸到我差点哭出来 So bumpy that I almost cried
穿着制服的牧师 Clergymen in uniform
年轻的女孩拉伤了肌肉 Young girls pullin' muscles
那绝对是个 Well, it sure has been
不同寻常的旅程 One hell of a ride
报社记者 Newspapermen
吃着糖果 Eating candy, ooh
得靠厉害的警察 They had to be held back
才能阻止他们 By big police
某天一切都会不同 Someday Everything is gonna be different
等我画完那幅杰作 When I paint that masterpiece
铁路事故 Train wrecks
在我记忆深处回荡 Running through the back of my memory
当我跑上山顶 When I ran on the hilltop
追逐一群大雁 Following a pack of wild geese
某天一切都会变美 Someday Everything is gonna be beautiful
等我画完那幅杰作 When I paint that masterpiece
等我画完那幅杰作 When I paint
That masterpiece
你知道他为什么要戴面具吗？ Any idea why he would wear a mask
你在搞笑吗？ Are you being funny
算是个诱导性问题吧 Well, it was kind of a leading question.
行吧 Yeah, okay.
那就问重点 Well, get to the point.
巡演的时候我们的面具不够 We didn't have enough masks on that tour.
应该所有人都戴上面具的 We should have had masks for everybody.
戴上面具之后 When somebody's wearing a mask,
这个人就会说真话 uh, he's gonna tell you the truth.
不戴面具的时候 基本不可能说真话 Uh...when he's not wearing a mask, it's highly unlikely.
蓝色惊奇乐队 Shocking Blue!
她的武器是她亮晶晶的眼睛 Her weapons were her crystal eyes
让每个男人疯狂 Making every man mad
我当时在拍蓝色惊奇乐队 I'd been filming Shocking Blue.
他们的歌曲《维纳斯》 当时在榜单上名列前茅 Their song "Venus" was at the top of the charts.
我们需要更多素材 - Wow! - And we needed more footage.
但当时我喜欢致幻类药物 And at the time, I liked psychedelics.
LSD是我最喜欢的毒品 Oh, LSD was my drug of choice.
你知道 这是一种变革性的体验 You know, it was trans... transformative.
我拍了很多新闻人 还有电视上的东西 And I filmed a lot of newspeople and things from the TV,
把摄像机直接对着电视拍 就像电视节目录像一样 like camera right on the TV, like kinescoped,
然后将这些严肃的东西 严肃的讲话 与摇滚剪辑在一起 and I cut these serious things, these speeches, with the rock 'n' roll.
一个山顶的女神 A goddess on a mountaintop
像银色的火焰在灼烧 Was burning like a silver flame
我是你的维纳斯 Well, I'm your Venus
我是你的火焰… - I'm your fire at your desire -
就像是面板和游戏 uh...It was brood en spelen,
就像把面包和马戏团 You know, like, "bread and circus."
我控告了流行文化 I made an indictment of popular culture.
称其为“像银色火焰一样燃烧” I called it "Burning Like A Silver Flame."
在当地的艺术电影圈播放 It played the local art film circuit,
开始有了自己的生命 uh, and it started to have a life of its own.
之后我拿下了东德的 海因里希格雷夫奖 Um, later, when I won the Heinrich Greif Award,
然后美国就找上了我 America came calling.
（《美国总统》 斯蒂芬·凡多普作品）
凡多普 Van Dorp,
我之前都没听说过他 I hadn't even heard of him before,
但他看起来挺不错的 but, uh, he seemed like an okay guy.
我喜欢他拍电影的经历 I liked his film history.
他在杜莎夫人蜡像馆拍摄过影片 He did some film work at Madame Tussauds Wax Museum.
他的想法是把这部影片 His idea was to, uh, make this film...
做成像是我们小时候去电影院看过的 appear to be like old newsreels we used to see at movie theaters...
新闻影片 growing up,
我觉得这是个非常好的想法 which I thought was a splendid idea.
凡多普 我有话要和你说 Van Dorp, I wanted to tell you something.
我觉得让山姆和凡多普合作 是再合适不过的了 I thought Sam would be perfect for van Dorp to, uh, collaborate with,
因为山姆对于地下世界 有着特别的知识 because Sam's got that special knowledge of the underworld
而凡多普似乎完全不清楚 that van Dorp didn't seem to have a clue about.
我觉得我有次问过他： “山姆 你怎么写出那些剧作的？” I think I asked him once, "Sam, how you write all those plays"
他说 And he said...
他说：“老天” "Man," he said,
“就像我能和死者交流一样” "it's like I commune with the dead."
我说：“是的 I said, "Yeah, yeah,
你必须能和死者交流 才能写出这样的剧作来 uh, you'd have to to write plays like that."
然后我问他想不想给这个 And I asked him if he wanted to, uh, write for, uh,
凡多普要拍的电影写剧本 this movie that this guy van Dorp was making.
他去和凡多普见了面 回来说 And he went to meet with van Dorp, and then he came back, and he said, uh...
不知道这家伙是哪里来的 he didn't know where the guy was coming from,
但如果我想要他参与的话他愿意 所以山姆就参与了进来 but if I wanted him to do it, he would.
So, that's how Sam got involved.
我当时住在加州的禾木斯提得山谷 I was living in Homestead Valley, California,
经营了一个养马场 running a horse boarding farm.
当时有一点不清楚 他究竟想要我做什么 It was a little bit unclear what... what exactly he wanted me to do.
我当时是一个可以 收钱受雇的编剧和作家 I was like a screenwriter or writer for hire, you know.
所以我就加入了 So, sure. So, I joined up.
我就是去参与一下 作为旁观者 I was just kind of there for the ride, basically,and... and as an observer
试图理解情况 and trying to make sense of something, you know.
新英格兰地区当时 经历了经济衰退的主要冲击 New England was just experiencing the backbone of that economic fallout,
那么多年前就是如此 you know, way back then, it was, you know, desolate...
荒凉
经济上非常困难的时期 Uh, really, really difficult economic times, you know.
人们遭受了痛苦 People suffering behind that, you know.
摇滚算是某种 Rock 'n' roll was some kind of, a...
不知道 算是一剂良药吧 I don't know, a kind of medicine or something.
你们有演唱会的票吗？ Do you have tickets for the concert
有 - Yeah. - How come he's coming here
他为什么会来这里？
是啊 他为什么会挑这么个小地方？ I know, how come he picked such a small place
我觉得是销售策略吧 就挑了小小的普利茅斯运动场 Tickets are on sale at the collis... the little Plymouth auditorium.
当年不刚好也是两百周年纪念吗？ Wasn't that the year of the bicentennial, also
两百周年 The bicentennial,
尤其在小镇上 人们根本不在乎这些 particularly in the little towns, you know, they didn't give a shit, you know.
什么鬼两百周年…你懂我意思吗？ "What is the bicen..." You know what I mean
他们肯定不会庆祝美国的诞生 They... They certainly weren't celebrating the... the birth of America. You know
我们爱你 鲍勃 - We love you, Bobby! - Yeah!
一个人要走多少路 How many roads must a man walk down
才能称其为人？ Before you call him a man
一只白鸽要飞过多少片海 How many seas must a white dove sail
才能在沙子里安眠？ Before she sleeps in the sand
炮弹要飞行多少次 How many times Must the cannonballs fly
才会永远被禁止？ Before they're forever banned
答案啊 我的朋友 The answer, my friend
在风中飘荡 Is blowin' in the wind
答案在风中飘荡 The answer is blowin' in the wind
总是有这种近乎马戏团的氛围 It always had this feeling of... of almost a circus atmosphere,
像是狗狗秀表演 a dog and pony show sort of thing.
我第一次听到伍迪·格思里唱歌 是在一个小广播台 It's the first song I ever heard Woody Guthrie sing on a little radio station.
他讲述了一个故事 He was telling a story...
坐着货运火车在全国旅行 about traveling across the country on freight trains,
随身带着小提琴 and he had a fiddle with him...
放在小提琴盒里 in a violin case.
每次火车停下 Every time the train would stop,
警察会上来检查 就会看到他拿着小提琴盒 police would come on and look through, they'd see him with that violin case...
叫他打开 make him open it up,
检查里面 and look inside.
他们在找一个不法之徒 They was looking for an outlaw...
叫做漂亮男孩查理斯·弗洛伊德 named Pretty Boy Floyd,
也是随身带着小提琴盒游荡 who was also traveling with a violin case.
孩子们 聚过来 If you'll gather 'round me, children
我会讲述不法之徒 漂亮男孩查理斯·弗洛伊德的故事 A story I will tell About Pretty Boy Floyd, an outlaw
他是俄克拉荷马州的老朋友 Oklahoma knew him well
我依稀记得在杰克·埃利奥特 I do recall sort of looking over,
独唱的时候隔着一段距离 越过他的肩头看去 from a distance, Jack Elliott's shoulder as he did his solo set.
这对我来说很新鲜 他看起来非常正宗 You know, that was something so new to me, and...
我完全不知道他是来自布鲁克林的 犹太牙医的儿子 gee, it seemed so authentic, I had no idea he was, you know, a Jewish dentist's son from Brooklyn.
我发现的时候真是大吃一惊 You know, you could've knocked me over with a feather when I found that out.
杰克·埃利奥特 鞠躬谢幕吧杰克 Ramblin' Jack! Take a bow, Jack.
有另一个朋友要介绍给大家认识 I got another friend for you to meet now.
他们是一个实体 很有存在感 They... They had an entity about them, you know.
不是明星效应 It wasn't stardom.
人们并非看着他们指认说 这是迪伦 那是琼·贝兹 It wasn't people were looking at,
"Oh, there's Dylan and there's Joan Baez."
他们看到的是一个乐队 No, they were looking at a band.
我搭的是一辆邮政列车 宝贝 Well, I ride on a mailtrain, baby
买不到刺激 Can't buy a thrill
我整晚没睡 宝贝 I been up all night, baby
倚靠在窗台边 Leanin' on a windowsill
代表滚雷巡演再次祝大家晚安 Once again, good night on behalf of the Rolling Thunder Revue.
非常感谢各位的到来 晚安 平安离场 We thank you for coming. Good night. Go in peace.
尤其是那些含有某种 And particularly with those songs
传说元素的歌曲 that had this kind of saga element about 'em, you know,
有一种复原的力量 我觉得非常令人兴奋 it had a rejuvenating effect, I think, you know, it was very exhilarating.
是一种兴奋的感觉 因为活着而兴奋 It was a feeling of exhilaration, of... of... of being alive.
听起来很假 但这是真的 It... That sounds corny, but it's true, you know.
想一下威廉·莎士比亚 Take, uh, Shakespeare, Will.
他出生在埃文河畔斯特拉特福 He grew up in, uh, uh, Stratford-on-Avon,
在河流交汇处 you know, where the... where these rivers cross,
离伦敦很遥远的郊外 and it was on the way outskirts of London.
那些浪客和游吟诗人们 And these troubadours and vagabonds
还有狂欢节组织者们从各地 涌入伦敦表演 and carnival people from all over were coming into London to perform.
他们会在这个河流交汇处停留 And they would stop at this crossroads of these rivers.
一个孩子看到了这些 然后写了他那些他妈的戏剧 And as a kid, he's seeing this, and then he writes those fucking plays.
懂我意思吗？ You know
这很非同寻常 That's... extraordinary.
有人会因为生命中 一些匆匆而过的东西 You know, that somebody is charged up like that
from something passing through their lives, you know.
而充满斗志 - Let me ask you a question. - Sure.
让我问你一个问题
当然
万圣节晚上打算做什么？ What were you gonna do on Halloween night
万圣节晚上打算做什么？ What was I gonna do on Halloween night
打算喝得酩酊大醉 Just get a buzz on.
没什么别的可干的 Nothing else to do.
没错 只有开派对 Yep, just party.
你去哪儿了 我蓝眼睛的儿子？ Where have you been My blue-eyed son
你去哪儿了 我亲爱的小儿子？ Where have you been My darling young one
我已踉跄着 走过十二座云雾缭绕的山旁 I've stumbled on the side Of twelve misty mountains
我已走过 我已爬过六条蜿蜒的高速公路 Walked and I've crawled On six crooked highways
我走进了七个悲伤的森林深处 Been in the middle Of seven sad forests
也走到了十二个死亡的海洋跟前 Been out in front Of a dozen dead oceans
走了几万里路 走到了坟地前 Been ten thousand miles In the mouth of a graveyard
倾盆 And it's a hard
倾盆 Well, it's a hard
倾盆 And it's a hard
倾盆大雨即将来临 Well, it's a hard rain gonna fall
你看到了什么 我蓝眼睛的儿子？ What did you see My blue-eyed son
你看到了什么 我亲爱的小孩？ What did you see My darling young one
我看到一个新生的婴儿 被狼群环绕 Saw a newborn baby With wild wolves all around it
我看到一条钻石铺成的高速公路 上面空无一人 I saw a highway of diamonds With nobody on it
我看到一条黑色的树枝 不停地滴血 Saw a black branch With blood that kept drippin'
我看到一屋子的男人 手上的锤子滴着血 Saw a room full of men With their hammers bleedin'
我看到一个白色的梯子 被淹入水中 Saw a white ladder Covered in water
我看到一万名说话的人 舌头都已溃烂 Saw ten thousand talkers Whose tongues are all broken
我看到年轻的孩子手中 握着枪和锋利的剑 Guns and sharp swords In the hands of young children
倾盆 And it's a hard
倾盆 Well, it's a hard
倾盆 And it's a hard
倾盆大雨即将来临 Oh, it's a hard rain gonna fall
你听到了什么 我蓝眼睛的儿子？ What did you hear My blue-eyed son
你听到了什么 我亲爱的小孩？ What did you hear My darling young one
我听到了雷声咆哮着警言 Heard the sound of a thunder That roared out a warnin'
我听到咆哮的海浪可以淹没全世界 Heard the roar of a wave Could drown the whole world
我听到一个人挨饿 我听到很多人欢笑 One person starved I heard many people laughin'
我听到一个死在排水沟中的诗人的歌 Heard the song of a poet Who died in the gutter
我听到小丑在巷子里痛哭的声音 Heard the sound of a clown Crying in the alley
倾盆 - And it's a hard - Yeah!
倾盆 And it's a hard
倾盆 Well, it's a hard
倾盆大雨即将来临 And it's a hard rain gonna fall
你遇见了谁 我蓝眼睛的儿子？ Who did you meet My blue-eyed son
你遇见了谁 我亲爱的小孩？ Who did you meet My darling young one
我遇见了一只死去的小马旁边的 一个年轻的孩子 Met a young child Beside a dead pony
我遇见了一个在遛黑狗的白人 Met a white man Who walked a black dog
我遇见了一个身子在燃烧的女人 Met one woman Whose body was burning
我遇见了一个小女孩 她给了我一条彩虹 Met a young girl She gave me a rainbow
我遇见了一个在爱中受伤的人 I met one man Wounded in love
我遇见了另一个在恨中受伤的人 Met another man Wounded in hatred
倾盆 And it's a hard
倾盆 Well, it's a hard
倾盆 And it's a hard
倾盆大雨即将来临 And it's a hard rain gonna fall
你现在要怎么做 我蓝眼睛的儿子？ What'll you do now My blue-eyed son
你现在要怎么做 我亲爱的小孩？ What'll you do now My darling young one
等雨开始下的时候 我会再出去 I'm goin' back out When the rain starts a-fallin'
我会走入最深的黑森林深处 Walk to the depths Of the deepest dark forest
那里有很多人 他们都两手空空 Where the people are many And their hands are all empty
那里的毒丸污染了水源 Where the pellets of poison Are flooding their waters
那里山谷中的房子 与潮湿而肮脏的监狱相连 Where the home in the valley Meets the damp, dirty prison
那里刽子手的脸都隐藏地很好 Where the executioner's face Is always well-hidden
在那里饥饿是丑陋的 灵魂被遗忘 Where the hunger is ugly Where souls are forgotten
那里的颜色是黑色 数字是虚无 Where black is the color None is the number
我会告诉、想出、说出、呼吸出 And I'll tell it and think it And speak it and breathe it
从山脉反射 让所有灵魂都能看见 Reflect from the mountain So all souls can see it
然后我会站在海上直到我开始下沉 Then I'll stand on the ocean Until I start sinkin'
但我开始唱之前我就会熟记我的歌 But I'll know my song well Before I start singin'
倾盆 And it's a hard
倾盆 Well, it's a hard
倾盆 And it's a hard
倾盆大雨即将来临 It's a hard rain gonna fall
-喂 -鲍勃？ - Hello - Bob
-是 -我是拉里 - Yeah. - This is Larry.
-拉里 你好吗？ -你有空吗？ - Larry, how you doing - You got a minute
我一个小时候后要交一个故事 I gotta do a story in an hour,
我只需要两三段内容 and I just need about two or three paragraphs.
-好的 -你起床了吗？ - Okay. - Are you up
差不多吧 Yeah, sort of.
你想谈什么 不如谈谈音乐吧 What do you... Why don't you just talk about the music, okay
好吗？ What do you wanna know
你想知道什么？ I've never seen you so fuckin' great onstage.
我从来没见过你在舞台上 表现他妈那么棒
从没见过你那么放松 为什么？ I've never seen you so loose. How come
老天 你一大早给我打电话 我脑子都不清楚 Jesus Christ, you really got me early in the morning, I can't even think.
Uh...
我就是最擅长这个元素 Well, it's just the element I work best in, you know
你见过意大利的那些团体吗？ 在意大利到处走的 You seen those Italian...
those Italian troupes that go around in Italy,
那些意大利的街头剧团 - those Italian street theaters... - Yeah.
-是 -用马车拉着的意大利团体？ The wagon, the wagon troupes, Commedia dell'arte
-意大利即兴喜剧？ -是的 Yeah, right.
这就是那种形式的一个延伸 不过是以音乐的形式 This is kind of an extension of that, only musically.
-音乐形式的意大利即兴喜剧 -是 - Music Commedia dell'arte - Yeah.
Come on, Red!
Riva!
- Jane! - Jane!
Get it, Merty!
如果有人告诉你说 鲍勃·迪伦要来普罗维登斯 If somebody told you Bob Dylan was coming to Providence,
你估计不会相信 但他确实要来 一起来的还有琼·贝兹 you probably wouldn't believe them, but he is, along with Joan Baez,
杰克·埃利奥特和鲍勃·内斯 Ramblin' Jack Elliott, and Bob Neuwirth,
叫做滚雷巡演 就在周二 在普罗维登斯公民中心 and it's called the Rolling Thunder Revue at the Providence Civic Center, Tuesday...
你会定表演场地 You'd book the venues,
和当地各筹办人达成协议 make deals with each of the local promoters,
然后到时候就出现 and then you'd show up.
有协议可以入场 And, you know, you'd have a deal for the gate.
你知道的 And, you know,
幸运的话 一切顺利 大家都能赚一点小钱 hopefully everything would go out, would go well, and everybody'd make a little money.
-抱歉老兄 -这不是你的场子 Hey, man, it wasn't your door and you weren't invited.
-没人邀请你来 -别吼我 好吗？ - Hey, don't yell at me, all right -
我就要吼你 Oh, I am yelling at ya.
去找你的警察来吧 让他们来他妈帮你 - Okay. - Go get your cop, so you can get some fuckin' help. - Okay.
总筹办人是鲍勃的一个老朋友 以及鱼贩子 The overall promoter was a longtime friend of Bob's and a fishmonger.
他从来没有管理过巡演 更不要说这么大规模的了 I mean, he never had managed a tour before, let alone one of this size.
对你的高血压不好 It's bad for your, uh, high blood pressure.
-行吧 -对高血压不好 - Yeah, okay. - Bad for your high blood pressure.
给他读几首诗 艾伦 - Read him some poetry, Allen. - Anything you wanna say...
所以他很不自在 而且准备不足 So he was out of his element and underprepared,
巡演上没什么人喜欢他 and he wasn't very well-liked on the tour.
告诉他引座员都离开了 Then tell him the ushers left. Tell him...
告诉他我们要陷害他 Tell him we're framingit.
-嗨 巴里 -不错 - Hi, Barry. - Nice.
（巴里·伊姆霍夫） This guy, Barry Imhoff,
这个叫巴里·伊姆霍夫的 是他的二把手 was his second-in-command,
他给比尔·格雷哈姆工作了很多年 and he'd worked for Bill Graham for years,
但在滚雷开始之前 but just prior to Rolling Thunder
他自立门户 创立了斑马制作公司 had got out on his own and started Zebra Productions.
这不算是他的参加的第一次巡演 And this was one of, you know, if not exactly, his first tour.
筹办人要做什么工作？ What kind of jobs would the promoter do
需要做什么我都会做 I did whatever needed to get done.
头一天你可能给乐队送披萨 So one day, you're delivering pizza to the band,
第二天 and the next day,
我拿着装了一万五千美元的袋子 I'm... got a bag full of $15,000,
在停车场穿过 不断地回头张望 and I'm walking through a parking lot looking over my shoulder,
想着所有人都知道我在做什么 thinking everybody knows exactly what I'm doing.
需要做什么就做什么 有些事情我们不谈起 Well, you did what you had to do. Some things we don't talk about.
我妈妈想去看这次巡演 My mom wanted to go see this tour.
没人想和自己的妈妈一起去音乐会 Now, you know, nobody wants to go to a concert with their mom.
尤其是当他们19岁的时候 Especially when they're 19 years old.
所以为了反叛 我穿了一件 吻乐队的T恤 So, rebelliously, I... I wore a Kiss T-shirt.
所以我不知道我们俩谁更尴尬 So, I don't know which one of us was more embarrassed,
是我妈妈还是我 whether it was me or my mom.
我们去了这次音乐会 And we went to this concert.
想要进去 We're trying to get in,
工作人员刁难我们 看着我们的票 and the guy's giving us kind of a hard time and looking at our tickets and the thing,
说不让我们进去 然后有个人走了过来 and we can't get in...And then, this guy comes walking up,
他没有门票 也想进去 and he doesn't have tickets, and he tries to get in.
门口的保安就不让他进去 And the cop at the door is not letting him in,
不让他进去 and not letting him in.
最终有一堆人出来 And so, finally, like, a bunch of people come out,
把鲍勃给找来了 然后鲍勃转身做了个动作 and they get Bob, and Bob turns around and he's like...
我当时就…我妈妈说：“快来” And I'm just like this... And my mom's like, "Come on."
我不想“快来” And I don't wanna, "come on,"
但我妈妈把我们给推了进去 所以我们就和鲍勃一起进去了 but my mother pushes us through, and so we go in with Bob, and, um...
鲍勃转过头 看到了我的T恤 Bob turned around and he saw my shirt,
他说 and he was like,
“你喜欢他们吗？” "Do you like them"
我意识到他想和我聊吻乐队 And then I realized he wanted to talk about Kiss.
我当时想试着让自己听起来 I think I was trying to... to sound like I was...
很聪明 smart, and so I started saying,
所以我就开始说 "Well, you know, I think that they paint their faces in this Kabuki style."
“你懂的 我觉得他们把脸 化妆成歌舞伎的风格”
他说：“我敢打赌阿国从来不会 把血溅到观众席里” And he said,
"Oh, I bet Okuni never spit blood into the audience."
我说 And I was like,
“阿国？” "Okuni"
他说：“出云阿国” And he's like, "Izumo no Okuni."
就是歌舞伎的创始者之一 Oh, and that's, you know, it's one of the guys who started, uh, Kabuki.
我想整夜摇滚 So... I wanna rock and roll all night
整日开派对 And party every day
我想整夜摇滚 I wanna rock and roll all night
整日开派对 And party every day
我想整夜摇滚 I wanna rock and roll all night
我听不见 I can't hear you!
整日开派对 And party every day
我想整夜摇滚… I wanna rock and roll...
斯嘉丽·里维拉是个厉害角色 Scarlet Rivera was some piece of work.
大部分人都会远离斯嘉丽 但我不是 Most people'd kind of stay away from Scarlet, but, uh, not me.
她当时的男朋友是吻乐队的主唱 Her boyfriend at the time was the leader of Kiss.
她带我去皇后区看他们演出 And she took me over to Queens to see them play.
他们在一个小俱乐部演出 They were playing in a small club. They had face paint on,
他们会在脸上涂油彩 我觉得挺有趣 and I thought that was kind of interesting.
我算是记住了这个东西 I kind of filed that away somewhere.
鼓掌 Clap your hands!
我想整夜摇滚 I wanna rock and roll all night
我记得很多 他们说我活得很精彩 Yeah, I remember a lot of things. They... They said I had a wonderful time.
我觉得我的确是 I think I did.
他们说我们每次接受采访 They said every time we used to do any interviews,
大家想问的都是： “罗尼 我们想知道群交的细节” all they wanted to know was, "Ronnie, we wanna hear about the orgies."
我说：“群交？” I said, "Orgies"
我说：“我们从来没有过群交 这听起来真恶心” I said, "God damn, we never had any orgies. That sounds nasty as hell."
我说：“我们可能有14或15个人 一起恋爱 但没有过群交” I said, "We might have had 14 or 15 people in love a time or two, but no orgies."
看谁来了 Look who's here.
哟 老兄 Yo, man.
罗尼·霍金斯 Well, Ronnie Hawkins, now,
他看起来像是个土老帽 但他说话有着圣人的智慧 he looked like a shitkicker, but he spoke with the wisdom of a sage.
他像是个… He was like a...
a...
角斗士之类的 gladiator or something...
摔角、角力 that wrestled and raced
在某个普通的罗马竞技场里 in, uh, in... in some nondescript Roman arena.
你会觉得罗尼应该穿宽袍子 Uh...you expected Ronnie to, uh, to wear a toga...
而不是戴他那顶脏兮兮的牛仔帽 instead of that ratty cowboy hat.
-记得斯嘉丽·里维拉吗？ -记得啊 - Remember Scarlet Rivera - Oh, yeah.
斯嘉丽爱上了我乐队里打节奏的人 She fell in love with my rhythm man from my band, Scarlet did.
他们在我房间上演了一些有趣的节目 Yeah, they put on some interesting shows there, up there in my room.
我可能还给几个节目做了旁白 不确定了 I think I narrated a couple of 'em. I'm not sure.
但她与众不同 她还佩剑 But, uh, yeah, she was something else... wore a sword.
那个姑娘去哪儿都会佩剑 She had... She wore a sword everywhere she went,
所以我想和她上床都有点不安 that girl, so I didn't...
I was a little bit uneasy about trying to slip her out,
因为如果你不能让她满足 她有权刺死你 'cause, boy, if you didn't satisfy her, she's liable to stab you.
她很不寻常 She was unusual.
我有次去她的房间 有一个盒子 I went to her room once, and there was a box of stuff.
里面装满了链条和镜子之类的 Like, chains and mirrors...
大烛台 candelabras and...
还有剑 She had swords.
还有条蛇 She had a snake.
就有很多东西 都放在箱子里 Just, uh...many things in... in a trunk.
这比她说的话更能描述她的性格 And, uh, that told me more about her than anything she had to say.
她话不多 She didn't say much.
但她不需要说 But she didn't have to.
那是什么？ - What's that - This This is my friend.
这个？这是我朋友
我弹奏的时候他陪伴我 He keeps me company while I play.
他会超出极限去解释舞步 He's playing the dance beyond his limits.
大部分人可能会说这是不可能的 Something that most people would say is impossible.
但我猜艺术家就是喜欢挑战不可能 But artists like to challenge the impossible, I guess.
我猜这也是我们化妆成这样的原因 That's why we wear the makeup we wear, I guess, too.
你在舞台上的形象很惊人 It's a striking image you have onstage.
铃鼓手先生鲍勃给了我们机会 Mr. Tambourine Man gives us the opportunity
做任何我们想做的人 to be whoever we wish to be.
这位美丽的年轻女子叫斯嘉丽 This, uh, young, beautiful, young lady over here is Scarlet.
她也和我们一起表演 She plays with us, too.
我去法国南部的海滨圣玛丽 参加过神圣的吉普赛节日 I'd been at the high holy gypsy holiday at Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer, South of France.
当天刚好是我生日 所以就像回家一样 It happens to be on my birthday, so it was like going home.
曼尼达斯·德普拉塔也在场 Manitas de Plata was there,
他整晚都在篝火旁表演 and he played all night along the campfire.
他棒极了 I mean, he was fantastic.
我熬夜到黎明 就是为了听他表演 And, uh, I stayed up till dawn just listening to him play.
几天后 不到一周的时间 Some time after that, couldn't have been more than a week,
那首歌在我的梦中出现 that song came to me in a dream.
你的呼吸香甜 Your breath is sweet
你的眼睛像天空中的两颗珠宝 Your eyes are like Two jewels in the sky
你的脊背挺直 你的头发顺滑 Your back is straight Your hair is smooth
在你躺着的枕头上 On the pillow where you lie
但我没有感觉到喜爱 But I don't sense affection
没有感激也没有爱 No gratitude or love
你的忠诚不属于我 Your loyalty is not to me
而是属于天上的星辰 But to the stars above
再喝一杯咖啡上路 One more cup of coffee for the road
我走之前再喝一杯咖啡 One more cup of coffee 'fore I go
敬下方的山谷 To the valley below
你的爸爸是个不法之徒 Your daddy, he's an outlaw
职业就是流浪 And a wanderer by trade
他会教你如何挑拣 He'll teach you how to pick and choose
如何掷出刀剑 And how to throw the blade
他监督着他的国度 He oversees his kingdom
不让陌生人闯入 So no stranger does intrude
他的声音颤抖 呼喊着 His voice, it trembles as he calls out
再来一盘食物 For another plate of food
再喝一杯咖啡上路 One more cup of coffee for the road
在我走之前再喝一杯咖啡 One more cup of coffee 'fore I go
敬下方的山谷 To the valley below
你的姐姐能看到未来 Your sister sees the future
就像你妈妈和你一样 Like your mama and yourself
你从来没学过读写 You've never learned to read or write
你的架子上没有一本书 There's no books upon your shelf
你的快乐没有上限 And your pleasure knows no limits
你的声音像只草地鹨 Your voice is like a meadowlark
但你的心像海洋 But your heart is like an ocean
神秘而黑暗 Mysterious and dark
再喝一杯咖啡上路 One more cup of coffee for the road
在我走之前再喝一杯咖啡 One more cup of coffee 'fore I go
敬下方的山谷 To the valley below
你平时会去看摇滚乐演出吗？ Are you used to going to rock shows
不会 我很少看 No, it's one of the very few I've seen.
昨晚的经历之后 我终于意识到 我错过了太多好东西 I finally realized, after last night, I've been missing an awful lot.
我觉得这是非常难得的事情 I thought it was the most unusual occurrence.
我从来没注意到 I never... I never noticed...
作为观众 as a... as a part of an audience,
我从来没关注过 I never paid attention to a...
观众和台上的表演者之间的互动 to a response between an audience and people on the stage, performers onstage.
这个互动对我来说就像一个演出 That, to me, was like a show all by itself.
就像用一个电池给另一个电池充电 It was like one battery charging another.
And...
不仅能感受到当时的气氛 几乎可以看得到 you not only could feel the vibes, you could... you could almost see them.
那是一种… There was a...
表演者和观众之间的风流韵事 a love affair between the performers and the audience.
我在想将人们吸引到一起的力量 Uh, I was thinking about the forces that draw people together.
形成了现在的滚雷的那种吸引力 The magnetism that makes the unit that's now formed as Rolling Thunder.
对我来说未来已经存在了 And, uh...to me, the future already exists.
对于某些人 也许对所有人来说 For some people, maybe for everyone.
只需要将自己面向未来就行 It's just a matter of tuning yourself to it.
我看见这一代最优秀的人被疯狂摧毁 "I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness,
挨饿 歇斯底里 又全身赤裸 starving hysterical naked,
拖着自己在黎明时走过黑人街道 dragging themselves through the negro streets at dawn
寻找愤怒的治愈良药 looking for an angry fix..."
艾伦·金斯堡是一个圣人般的人物 Allen Ginsberg was a saintlike figure.
就像某种父亲式的形象 It was like having a... kinda like a father figure.
他一直都非常清醒 He was always very sober.
不， 艾伦·金斯堡最不像的就是父亲了 No, Allen Ginsberg was anything but a father figure.
他绝对不是父亲的形象 He was definitely not a father figure.
艾伦·金斯堡 Allen Ginsberg,
是已逝的人中我非常思念的一个 a guy I really... I really miss, of the ones that are gone.
我们结下了深刻的友情 We became very friendly, I mean, you know, he... he...
他… I wasn't a bad-looking, you know, little 19-year-old at the time,
我当时是个长相不差的19岁男孩
他则喜欢异性恋的 and he had a thing for straight,
有才能的 talented...
um...
青少年男孩 teenage boys.
所以这也对我们的友情有帮助 So, that probably added to it, I suppose.
人们对于金斯堡不了解的一点是 他是个出色的舞者 One thing people don't know about Ginsberg
is that he was an incredible dancer.
他总是会跳出不寻常又刺激的舞步 Um... who...
he would just do these steps that were so unusual and exciting.
而且他总是有很好的舞伴 You know, and he'd always have a good dance partner, too.
通常是我们在巡演过程中结识的人 Uh, usually somebody from the tour, somebody we'd pick up along the way.
金斯堡经常跳舞 Uh... He danced a lot, Ginsberg.
萨满将一条纤细的腿晃上天空 "& shaman he swings a skinny leg to the sky
萨满希望你在那里旁观 & shaman he desires you be there watching
萨满现在不关心进食 shaman don't care about eating now
他在脸上画好了油彩 准备好跳起摇摆舞 he's got his paint on he's ready for jive
萨满人会在空中摇摆 做手势 & shaman's going to sway & gesture in space
萨满为你叫好 唱出你的悲哀 & shaman's shouting yeah for you & singing your sorrow
萨满只对你忠诚 shaman's not faithful except to you
萨满为你做这些 你都清楚 shaman does it for you you know all this
萨满看上了小提琴 shaman's got his eyes on the violin."
有这种渴望 艾伦的渴望 There was this yearning, Allen's yearning,
要么想成为鲍勃 to either be Bob or...
要么想让鲍勃更爱他 have Bob love him more.
我记得鲍勃说 And I remember Bob saying,
“上街去歌唱吧” "Just go out and sing on the street corners."
所以艾伦就是这么做的 So Allen was essentially doing that.
Ah...
看到金斯堡就像看到皮媞亚一样 Seeing Ginsberg was like going to see the Oracle of Delphi.
他不关心物质财富或政治权力 He didn't care about material wealth or political power.
他是自己的国王 He was his own kind of king.
但他想玩音乐 But... he wanted to play music.
他已经取得了国际诗人的所有成就 He had already achieved what any national poet could hope to achieve.
“我看见这一代最优秀的人 被疯狂摧毁” "I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness."
很少有诗人能写出这样的诗句 Very few poets have done that.
罗伯特·弗罗斯特也许可以 Robert Frost, maybe.
“承诺保管 入睡前还有很长的路要走” "Promises to keep, miles to go before I sleep."
惠特曼说过：“我很大 我包含大众” Whitman said, "I am large, I contain multitudes."
至今我们仍记得这些诗句 We still remember those lines today.
现在的诗人无法像他们那样 接触到公众的意识 Today's poets don't reach into the public consciousness that way.
所以艾伦能做出这一突破非常厉害 So it was remarkable that Allen had actually broken through.
现在人们记得的都是歌曲和歌词 Nowadays, lines that people remember are lines from songs, lyrics from songs...
“你出轨的心会让你哭泣” "Your cheatin' heart will make you weep."
“不要为我改变发型 如果你在乎我的话” "Don't change your hair for me, not if you care for me."
“我有心恋爱” “一天能有多大的区别” "I'm in the mood for love." "What a difference a day makes."
“并没有调皮” "Ain't misbehavin'."
艾伦希望他的诗句能像这样被记住 Allen wanted his lines to be remembered like that,
但他是个诗人 but he was a poet.
他不是词曲作家 He wasn't a songwriter.
1970到1975年 By 1970 through 1975,
所有歌曲和诗歌的英雄们 all of the, uh, heroes of song and poetry
都精疲力竭了 were out on their own,
uh...
在自己的艺术创造的孤独中 in the solitude...doing their art.
将会死去或者喝酒喝到酒精中毒死去 The people that were going to die or drink themselves to death,
当时很多伟大的艺术家都是这样 as many great artists did, or get strung out...
他们去了阴间 就像杰克·凯鲁亚克那样 uh, went down to... uh...She'ol, as Kerouac did,
离这片海168公里远的地方 他被埋在了罗威尔 105 miles from this ocean, buried in Lowell.
但这就是我所有诗歌的灵感来源 他的作品《墨西哥城布鲁斯》 But that's where I got all my poetry, out of Mexico City Blues.
你读过这个吗？ You ever read this
当然 - Sure. - This book...
-这是我最喜欢的书 -我读过 - This is my favorite. - Yeah, I... I read this. Uh...
我的好朋友大卫·维特克给过我一本 My good friend Dave Whitaker gave me a copy of this book.
-什么时候？ -1959年在明尼阿波利斯的时候 - When - Uh, in Minneapolis in 1959.
Uh-huh.
我记得大卫给我这本书的时候 将我的心灵击穿了 I remember when David gave me this book, it just blew a hole in my mind.
真的吗？ Really
“坟墓中埋葬着什么？” Yeah. "What's been buried in the grave
”尘土” Dust.
“完美的尘土” - Perfect..." - "Perfect dust."
“完美的时间的尘土” "Perfect dust in time."
他写了很多关于死亡的东西 He wrote a lot about being dead.
“有次我去看午夜场电影 1940年 看的是《人鼠之间》 "Once I went to a movie At midnight, 1940,
Mice and Men, the name of it.
红色的箱车在屏幕上滚过 The Red Block Boxcars Rolling by
是的先生 生命终于疲于生活 Yes，sir. life finally gets tired of living -
两次我都睁大了双眼细看 直到 On both occasions I had wild Face looking into lights
幽灵淡出视野 进入记忆中的大提琴时光” Of streets where phantoms Hastened out of sight Into Memorial cello time."
是啊 Oh, yeah.
还有一首 Here's one.
“死了而不知死亡 "Dead and don't know it,
活着 知道 Living and do.
活人有死亡的想法 The living have a dead idea.
一个人就是一个活着的想法 A person is a living idea;
死后就是个死了的想法 after death, a dead idea.
等石头变成空气 我就会在那里” When rock becomes air...""I will be there."
-他就在这里 -是的 他就在这里 - He's here. - Yeah, this is where he is.
-石头已经变成了空气 -是的 - Yeah. So rock has become air. - Yeah.
我们坐下放松一下吧 - Let's sit down a minute, relax. - Well, this is...
凯鲁亚克 他尊重了生命 - Yes, it's not every day... - Kerouac, he honored life.
我得重新读一遍 凯鲁亚克写的所有东西 I had to read everything again, that Kerouac wrote.
我没有这么做 但我对于他作品 有了完全不同的想法 Not that I did, but I thought about it differently.
《在路上》这本书中 All of a sudden, On the Road,
他经常谈的都是生命之路 he was talking about the road of life.
“现在想到你会觉得奇怪 "Strange now to think of you,
束身衣和眼睛都已不再 gone without corsets and eyes,
而我走在格里尼治村 铺满阳光的小路上 while I walk on the sunny pavement of Greenwich Village,
在曼哈顿下城 downtown Manhattan,
清冽的冬日正午 clear winter noon,
我整晚没睡 一直在说着 and I've been up all night talking,
说着 talking,
大声朗诵着卡迪什赞美诗 reading the Kaddish aloud,
听着雷·查尔斯的歌 listening to Ray Charles
留声机传来震耳欲聋的布鲁斯 blues shout blind on the phonograph
那个节奏 那个节奏 The rhythm, the rhythm
还有我脑中你的记忆 就像黑暗中的诗篇 and your memory in my head..." "like a poem in the dark...
再次逃向遗忘 escaped back to Oblivion...
没有更多要说的 No more to say,
没有要为之哭泣的 只有梦中的东西 and nothing to weep for but the Beings in the Dream,
围困在消失之中 trapped in its disappearance,
叹气 sighing,
与之尖叫 screaming with it,
买卖灵魂的碎片 buying and selling pieces of phantom,
打着麻将又哭又笑 laughing and weeping over mahjong,
崇拜彼此 worshipping each other,
崇拜其中包含的上帝 worshipping the God included in it all...
渴望或无可避免 longing or inevitability
最终出现了愿景 while it lasts, a Vision...
死亡 你的灵魂请停步 Death, stay thy phantoms!
哦妈妈 我还遗漏了什么？ O mother what have I left out
哦妈妈 我还遗忘了什么？ O mother what have I forgotten
哦妈妈 永别 O mother farewell
穿着长长的黑鞋 with a long black shoe
与共产党永别 farewell with Communist Party
穿着破碎的长袜 and a broken stocking
永别了 你胸口有六根长长的黑发 farewell with six dark hairs
on the wen of your breast
永别了 穿着你的旧裙子 farewell with your old dress
还有阴道周围长长的黑色毛发 and a long black beard around the vagina
你的眼睛 你俄罗斯的眼睛 with your eyes with your eyes of Russia
你身无分文的眼睛 with your eyes of no money
你的艾伦诺姨妈的眼睛 with your eyes of Aunt Elanor
你震惊的眼睛 with your eyes of shock
你做过额叶切除术的眼睛 with your eyes of lobotomy
你离婚的眼睛 你中风的眼睛 with your eyes of divorce with your eyes of stroke
你孤独的眼睛 with your eyes alone
你的眼睛 with your eyes
你满是鲜花的死亡” with your death full of flowers."
她穿过城市的街道 She walks alone Through the city blocks
哦 听到钟表的滴答 Oh, hears the tickin' of the clocks
我在水滨码头看到了她 Hunts for her by the waterfront docks
水手们都从那里来 Where the sailors all come in
也许他会在那里与她再次相遇 Maybe he'll see her there once again
他要等待多长时间？ How long must he wait
再来一次简单的命运转折 One more time For a simple twist of fate
和我聊聊巡演的精神吧 Tell me a bit about the spirit of the tour.
如果你唱一首新歌 - 'Cause you're doing new songs, right - Yeah.
-对吗？ -是 And a lot of people in the audience expected the old songs.
而很多观众希望听老歌
拉索 这是第一条法则 But Ratso, you know, that's the first...
预期的基本法则 - one of the first rules... - What's that
如果你有很高的预期就会失望 The expectations, you know
If you have big expectations, you're gonna be let down.
所以不能有任何预期 You can't have any expectations.
但人们有预期 人们有预想 But people do have preconceptions.
那是他们的问题了 拉索 那是他们的问题了 That's their problem, Ratso. That's their own problem.
我们不能对所有人负责的 懂吗？ We can't account for everybody who's walking around, you know
所有那些期待很高的人 Like having expectations.
谁他妈在乎？ I mean, who gives a shit
是 Yeah.
他们在公园坐在一起 They sat together in the park
夜晚的天空逐渐变暗 As the evening sky got dark
她看着他 他感到了火花 She looked at him and he felt a spark
骨头感到刺痛 Tingle to his bones
就在那时 他感到了孤独 'Twas then he felt alone
希望他自己改过自新 And he wished he'd gone straight
小心等待简单的命运转折 And watched out For a simple twist of fate
他们一起沿着古运河走 They walked along by the old canal
有一点疑惑 我记得很清楚 A little confused, I remember well
在一个奇怪的酒店停步 And stopped into a strange hotel
酒店的霓虹灯闪耀 With a neon burnin' bright
他感受到了夜晚的热度 He felt the heat of the night
像一辆货车向他袭来 Hit him like a freight train
移动着 带着简单的命运转折 Moving with a simple twist of fate
某处响起轻柔的萨克斯音乐 A saxophone someplace softly played
她沿着拱廊走着 As she was walkin' on by the arcade
听到了旋律的起落 She heard the melody rise and fade
太阳正在升起 The sun was coming up
她拿出一枚硬币 She dropped a coin into the cup
放进门口盲人的茶杯里 Of a blind man at the gate
忘却了简单的命运转折 And forgot about A simple twist of fate
他醒来时她已不在 He woke up, she was gone
他什么都没看到 只有黎明 He didn't see nothing but the dawn
他起床 重新穿上衣服 He got out of bed And put his clothes back on
拉开遮光帘 Pushed back the blinds
找到了她留下的字条 Found a note she'd left behind
他完全无法认同 To which he just could not relate
都是简单的命运转折 All about a simple twist of fate
他听到了钟表的滴答 He hears the ticking of the clocks
独自穿过城市的街道 And walks alone Through the city blocks
在水滨码头追寻到了她 Hunts her down by the waterfront docks
水手们蜂拥而来 Where the sailors all roll in
也许他会再次认出她 Maybe he'll spot her once again
他必须要等待多长时间？ How long must he wait
再一次 简单的命运转折 One more time For a simple twist of fate
人们告诉我 People tell me it's a crime
知道太多东西太长时间是一种罪恶 To know too much for too long a time
她应该在我盛年时认识我 She should've caught me in my prime
这样她就不会离开 She would've stayed with me
相反 我将要出海 Instead I'm going off to sea
让我自己冥想 And leaving me to meditate
冥想那简单的命运转折 Upon that simple twist of fate
我将辞去总统职务 明天中午生效 I shall resign the presidency effective at noon tomorrow.
副总统福特届时将在这间办公室 Vice President Ford will be sworn in as president
宣誓成为总统 at that hour in this office.
我梦到我见到了圣奥古斯丁 I dreamed I saw Saint Augustine
如同你我一般还活着 Alive as you or me...
托马斯·杰佛逊说 Thomas Jefferson said, "The people...
“人民是保存我们自由的 唯一值得依赖的保障”
are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
…手臂下夹着毯子 With a blanket underneath his arm
以及纯金的外套… And a coat of solid gold...
亚伯拉罕·林肯重申了美国的信念 Abraham Lincoln renewed this American article of faith
他问：“全世界还有更好的方式 或更平等的希望吗？” asking, "Is there any better way or equal hope in the world"
躲开 Go!
大家都躲开 Everybody get out of the way, now!
趴下 Get down!
躲开 Get out of the way!
出来吧 天赋异禀的国王和女王们 Come out ye gifted kings and queens...
有太多人在打击美国各个制度 We've got too many people who are knocking every institution,
包括国会、总统、美国国旗 including the Congress, the president, the flag,
一切 everything.
我觉得我们该站起来说 I think it's time to stand up and say,
“我们相信这些制度 我们相信美国” "Well, we believe in these institutions, and we believe in America."
我觉得美国应该多唱唱歌 And I think America ought to sing a little bit.
...accordingly
知道你不是一个人 And know you're not alone
我们现在聊的是鲍勃·迪伦这个人 Now, we're talking about Bob Dylan the man,
我们聊的是这个 that's who we're talking about,
他唱歌时宣扬的信息 the message he preaches when he sings...
但你不能把一切都放在显微镜之下 - You can't use microscopes on everything. - The happiness...
没有用显微镜 You're not using microscopes.
-你用的是信息本身 -你不能这样用手术刀 - You can't use a scalpel that way. - You're using the message.
我觉得挺压抑的 I thought it was sort of depressing...
人们居然会排两天的队去见一个人 that people would stand in line for two days to see a man.
这就证明 It just so... shows...
他们有这种需要 需要某些东西或某些人 they have that need for something or somebody to...
带来救赎之类的 bring salvation or something. You know
但我也去了 But I did it, too.
不知道 I don't know.
演出前一天大概下午5点的时候 About five in the afternoon, the day before the show, right
-是 -你也在那儿 - Yeah. - You were there,
你已经去了好几天了 你立刻就喜欢上我了 是不是？ you'd been there for a couple of days, you hit on me right away.
你说你想要这个纽扣 You said you wanted this button, right
他以为我是迪伦之类的 Thought I was Dylan or some shit like that.
是的 - Yeah, right. Mm-hmm. - Yeah.
很多人以为你就是迪伦 拉里 A lot of people think you are, Larry.
挺明显的 Well, it's pretty obvious.
把眼镜摘下来 Take your glasses off for a minute.
-我不是他 -不管怎么样 - I'm not him. - Well, anyways...
那个叫拉索的小混蛋 That little shit Ratso
他最差劲了 he was the worst.
他打扮成迪伦的样子 模仿他说话的语气 He dressed like Dylan, he tried to talk like Dylan,
总是给自己脸上贴金 always trying to ingratiate himself.
他以为自己是亨特·汤普森 He thought he was Hunter Thompson
只是因为他给《滚石杂志》写文章 just because he was writing for Rolling Stone.
他不希望周围有任何有视野的人 He didn't want anyone else with vision around.
他最后给你们造成麻烦了吗？ Did he wind up causing problems for you
拜托了 Please.
蟑螂真的会在房子里搞出麻烦吗？ Does the cockroach really cause problems for the house
不会的 只是令人讨厌 No, it's just a nuisance.
凡多普是个不同寻常的人 Van Dorp was an unusual guy.
他是那种 需要敌人的人 He's one of those kind of people who's trying to... just needs an enemy.
And...
没有敌人的时候他也试图创造敌人 uh, he was trying to make enemies where there weren't any,
这方面他很成功 and, uh, he... he was...he was successful at that.
他惹怒了很多 He... He angered a lot... lots of people,
很多人 尤其是提供餐饮的人 especially in catering.
他会吃两三顿饭的量 He would eat two or three, uh, meals
把别人的饭也吃掉 that really... really were for somebody else.
他吃得太多 So, he ate more than he was supposed to,
我觉得他… and I think... and I think he...
我觉得他也会多管闲事 ...uh, I think he stuck his nose in places it might've should not have been.
他也是一个很多疑的人 He was also a very paranoid person.
向其他人抱怨说他的房间被监听了 Complained to people that his room was bugged.
罗杰·麦奎因当时也参加了巡演 Uh, which, you know, McGuinn was on that tour,
麦奎因当时痴迷复杂的电子设备 and McGuinn who at that point was into, uh, very sophisticated electronics.
我不是说那些设备没有被窃听 但是… So I'm not saying it wasn't bugged but...
我也不是说的确被窃听了 but I'm not saying that it was bugged,
因为这件事我不确定 because I don't know that for a fact.
每张票都是五块八 All tickets are $8.50 a ticket.
看你演出的观众是怎么样的？ What were the audiences like...
that you played to
他们都是 Well, they would all be...
异常开心 hysterically happy.
所以回答这个问题 So, I mean, you can't really judge much
“观众都是怎么样的”你也无法判断 from saying, "What would the audiences be like"
他们都是抢破了头才抢到票的 They would all be people who would've slit each other's throats to get there.
多么可爱的一对 What a lovely couple!
-别创造迷思了 -一对什么？ - Don't make myths. A couple of what - A couple of what
他们说一切都可以替代 They say ev'rything can be replaced
但一切距离都很遥远 That ev'ry distance is not near
所以我记着每一个 So I remember ev'ry face
让我来到这里的人的每一张脸 Of ev'ry man who put me here
琼·贝兹和我什么都能唱 Joan Baez and me could sing anything.
我们睡着了都可以合唱 We could sing together in our sleep.
事实上 As a matter of fact,
我经常在睡梦中听到她的声音 lot of times when I was sleeping, I'd hear her voice.
在那边孤独的人群中 Yonder down here in this lonely crowd
有一个发誓不是自己的错 Is a man who swears he's not to blame
我整天都能听到他大声呼喊 All day long I hear him shouting loud
高声哭喊说他被陷害了 Crying out that he been framed
我看到了光明… I see my light...
琼非常勇敢 Joan was so courageous.
很自律 Self-disciplined.
我第一次认识她的时候 她像是随着流星雨降临到地球上的 When I first met her, it seemed like she'd come down to Earth from a meteorite.
她从未改变过 And she's never changed.
她一直像是 随着流星雨降临到地球上来的 She always seems like she's just come down from a meteorite.
对于巡演你没有保留意见？ You had no reservations about going on tour
这个嘛 Well...
当然 Sure.
I mean... 我是说
听起来可能会很有趣 但我也和迪伦打过交道 I think it probably sounded like... fun, but I also had experienced Dylan,
知道巡演时会有趣还是无趣 and, you know, how much fun that can be on any tour or not.
所以说… So, um...
但我觉得 知道会有很多人来看 But I think, know... knowing that it was gonna be a lot of people,
我也会有家人陪伴 and I was gonna have my own family with me...
听起来很刺激 It sounded exciting, you know.
我有我自己的自由 I had my own freedom...
可以自由地唱歌跳舞 这种自由在我自己演出时是没有的 to sing and dance in a way that I didn't do on my own stage.
也许她的任务不够 她开始有点坐立不安 Maybe there wasn't enough for her to do and she'd begin to go a little stir-crazy.
开始跳布加洛舞 Started doing, uh...
开始和一些也许不该接触的人打交道 boogaloo and hanging out with people maybe she shouldn't be hanging out with,
然后 and, um...
Ugh.
我不知道发生了什么 I don't know what happened.
老天 坐在鲍勃·迪伦边上 Boy, sitting right next to Bob Dylan, man. Whew.
能借个火吗？如果你有火的话 I got a light if you got,
有次我打扮成迪伦的样子 我时不时会这么做 One time, I got all dressed up as Bob, which I would do periodically.
我会贴上一些胡子标记 弄出胡子的样子 I used to put these little beard markings all over and have a mustache on.
然后戴上他的帽子 And then I'd put his hat on
在脸上涂白色的油彩 and some whiteface.
你一直打扮得那么好 All the time you dress so fine
正直盛年 给流浪汉扔了一毛钱 Threw the bums a dime in your prime...
我走来走去 没有人注意到 I walked over with nobody really paying attention,
我就成了鲍勃 and I'd be Bob.
有张桌子上摆了食物、咖啡、 餐饮那些东西 And there was this table of, like, food and catering and coffee,
路易在那里 我说： “帅哥 给我来点咖啡” and Louie was there, and I said..."Handsome, give me some coffee."
人们突然就开始给我倒咖啡 Instantly, people got me some coffee like that.
“你要这个吗？” "D'you want this D'you want this You want milk Do you want sugar"
“你要牛奶吗？你要糖吗？”
我就这样拿着 And I just had in my hand, going like that,
他们就像对待鲍勃一样对待我 and they treated me the way they treat Bob.
“要这个吗？要那个吗？要帮忙吗？” "D'you want this D'you want that What can we do"
棒极了 It was amazing.
棒极了 直到我说了一句 It was amazing until finally I said something like,
“拜托了 路易” "Oh, for Christ sake, Louie." And then he realized.
然后他才意识到 Oh, yeah, and I had a little wig on with my hair coming out underneath it.
我当时还戴了假发 真头发露出来了一点
糟透了 Terrible.
有点像亨利八世的宫廷 It's like the court of Henry VIII or something, you know
谁是安妮·博林？谁会被砍头？ Who's Anne Boleyn, you know Which one is gonna get the ax, you know
你知道我的意思 You know what I mean You know,
有这样的一种动态 there's that kind of dynamic.
人们会计谋接近他 And people are maneuvering to get closer,
还有人想利用你来实施计谋 and then there are the people who are using you to maneuver.
戴维·曼斯菲尔德想和我唱一首歌 David Mansfield wanted to sing a song with me, uh...
老天 Ugh. God.
那个鼓手也想 That, uh, a drummer did.
我不懂这意义何在 I didn't see what the point of it all was.
化妆对你有什么作用？ - What does makeup do for you -
不知道 I don't know.
略微遮掩一些丑陋吧 Just hides, you know, the ugliness a little bit.
当然所有人 Everyone, of course, you know,
都想要得到自己的机会 wanted their shot,
想要接近巨星的机会 wanted their time in the sun.
但我们都知道 你必须要 But we all know that, you know, you have to...
为演出着想 做牺牲 give for the good of the show.
能参加演出是莫大的荣幸 And it was such an honor to be there,
所以这方面没有问题 so that was no problem.
巡演的时候和你最亲近的是谁？ Who were the people you were closest with on the tour
我知道听起来挺奇怪的 但我觉得和鲍勃和亲近 I know this sounds funny, but I felt close to Bob.
我一遇到他就觉得和他很亲近 I just always felt close to him from the moment I met him.
我敢肯定很多人都这么感觉 Um, I'm sure many people that feel that way.
Um...
但我问米克·朗森 I know Mick Ronson told me, however, when I said, um...
“你是不是也喜欢鲍勃？” 他说：“我不知道 you know, "Don't you love Bob" and he said, "I don't know.
他从没和我说过话” He's never spoken to me."
有次我们在麻省 Um, and then once we were in Massachusetts,
有些人要来 and people were about to arrive.
我不知道他们是谁 但不是我们小团体的人 I don't know who they were, but not our little group.
地下室只有我和鲍勃两个人 鲍勃说：“罗尼 帮帮我” Bob and I were alone in the basement, and Bob said, "Ronee, help."
我说：“帮什么？” And I said, "Help what"
我后来觉得非常糟糕 因为我不是有意 And... And I felt so bad about that afterwards because I didn't mean to be...
对鲍勃那么残忍或轻率的 cruel or thoughtless to Bob, but I always thought, you know,
但我一直觉得 I had to treat him just like a regular person
我得把他当做普通人对待
如果我想和他成为朋友的话 if I were going to be friends with him.
但后来我更了解了一些 他可能需要求助的是什么 But later on, I understood a little more what he might be asking help for.
他需要求助的是什么？ What was he asking help for
我觉得是大批的陌生人 I think the onslaught of strangers.
你好 合照 Hello, take my picture, please!
你好 Hiya, man.
我当时在公园做另一个模特工作 I was in the park with another one of my modeling jobs.
当然整个公园都满是 Of course, the whole park is full of everybody doing
做自己事情的人 whatever they're doing, and suddenly I hear, "Hey, Kiss,"
我突然听到有人说：“嘿 吻！”
我当然感到很羞辱 and I'm just, of course, mortified.
然后我意识到 And then I realize...
是他 that it's him.
当然我就更羞辱了 So, of course, I'm even more mortified.
我觉得我认识她的时候 和她母亲在一起 I think I met her with her mother.
她是个好女孩 She was a nice girl.
Uh...
她当时真的很年轻 She was so young, anyway, you know.
但她看起来比实际年龄成熟 But she seemed old for her age.
所有人都想当电影明星 Everybody wants to be a movie star...
不是吗？ don't they
但当你住在一个偏僻的小地方的时候 But, you know, when you live in the middle of nowhere,
和别人说自己想做电影明星 when you tell somebody you wanna be a movie star, they think you're...
他们会觉得你…
疯了 insane.
她曾经和我说 有一天她会成为一个著名的演员 She, uh, used to tell me, uh, someday she's going to be a famous actress.
好吧 Uh, okay.
几天后他说 A couple of days later he said, um...
“你知道吗？ "You know, hey...
不如你和我们一起去巡演吧？” how about if you just come on the road with us"
我心想：“做什么呢？” And I thought, "And do what"
“你可以帮我们管演出服 "You know, you could help out with the costumes
在后台帮忙之类的” and help out backstage and stuff."
就像一个女人 - "Just Like a Woman." -
什么？ What
就像一个女人？ - "Just Like a Woman" - Yeah!
-那首歌我们会吗？ -不知道 我们可以假装会 - Do we know that song - I don't know, we could fake it.
是前几场演出中的一场 It was one of the first shows.
我在后台 - I was backstage. - ...we'll try it.
琼·贝兹叫我帮她熨衬衫 Joan Baez had asked me to iron her shirt.
一秒之后 我听见 A second later I hear, "Hey... Sharon."
“嘿 沙朗”
有一台非常破旧的钢琴 And there was this, um, really decrepit old piano
被推到了一边 shoved off to the side, and Bob was kinda hunched over it.
鲍勃在钢琴旁弓着腰
给了我那样的一个眼神 And he gives me that... that look.
他说：“我写了一首关于你的歌” He's like, "I wrote a song about you."
没有人感觉到任何痛苦 Nobody feels any pain
今晚如我站在雨中的时候 Tonight as I stand inside the rain
然后他唱到了那句歌词 And then he gets to the line...
她做爱就像一个女人 And she makes love just like a woman
但她崩溃时就像个小女孩 But she breaks
Just like a little girl
我就开始嚎啕大哭 I just broke out crying. You know Full-on tears.
应该是T骨牛排告诉我 I get... I think T Bone's the one who told me that the song was...
那首歌写了有十年了 ten years old.
就像一个女人 "Just Like a Woman."
Yeah!
什么就像一个女人？ What's just like a woman
什么都比不了女人 Nothin' like a woman.
唱一首抗议的歌 Do a protest song!
行 给你唱一首 Yeah, here's the one for you.
哦妹妹 当我来躺在你的怀里时 Oh, sister, when I come To lie in your arms
你不应该像对待陌生人那样对待我 You should not treat me Like a stranger
我们的父亲不会喜欢你的行事方式 Our Father would not like The way that you act
而你也必须意识到危险 And you must realize the danger
哦妹妹 我不是你的哥哥吗？ Oh, sister, am I not a brother to you
不是值得喜爱的人吗？ And one deserving of affection
我们此生的目的不是一样的吗？ And is our purpose not the same On this earth
爱及追随他的方向？ To love and follow His direction
我们一起长大 We grew up together
从生到死 From the cradle to the grave
我们死去又重生 We died and were reborn
然后神秘地被拯救 And then mysteriously saved
哦妹妹 当我前去敲你家的门 Oh, sister, when I come To knock on your door
不要拒绝我 你会创造出悲伤 Don't turn away, you'll create sorrow
时间是海洋 但结束在海岸上 Time is an ocean But it ends at the shore
明天你可能就不会见到我 You may not see me tomorrow
鲍勃·迪伦选总统 Bob Dylan for president!
什么的总统？ President of what
他当时唱歌 是不是有一种特别的模式？ Was he in a special mode of singing at that time
和你之前见的是不是不一样？ Was he different than you'd seen him before
有一种滚雷的能量 It was... There was a Rolling Thunder energy.
是他的发明 这么多人来看 That was his invention, you know, and all these people showed up.
所以是的 So, yeah.
巡演是非常开放式的 - What do you got, Larry - The tour was very open-ended,
所以不管到哪个城市 so whatever city they went to,
如果有当地的朋友或音乐人 if there was a local friend and musician,
就会划出时间段让他们表演 there would be a slot for them to come up and play.
比如去康涅狄格州的时候 琼尼·米歇尔 For example, uh, in Connecticut, Joni Mitchell...
上台唱了几首歌 came up, did a couple of songs,
特别享受 就跟着参加了之后的巡演 and loved it so much that she stayed on for the rest of the tour.
就成了整个体验的一部分 She just became part of the... this experience.
你们俩怎么会跟着上路的？ How did you two end up on the road
-不知道… -跟着艾伦来的 - I don't know... - I came through Allen.
她是跟着艾伦·金斯堡来的 She came through Allen Ginsberg.
（安妮·沃尔德曼） Um...
我刚结束了一个项目 I had finished a project and...
感觉处在空窗期 想要出来看一场演唱会 was, you know,in a kind of a postnatal state and wanted to come and see a concert,
然后就被吸引住了 就搁置了一切 and, uh, got sucked into it. You know, just shelved everything that...
其他所有东西与这个相比 都不重要了 这个体验 Everything else seemed, uh, minorly important compared to this, like, as an experience,
这样一种共同生存的体验 and an experiment in communal existence. You know
你知道的 What do you think
你觉得呢？ I think you've gotta come on the stage right now.
我觉得你现在得上台了
好的 我来了 Okay, I'm coming.
Ah
有时候我觉得这是一种讽喻式的东西 Some days, I'd see it as this kind of allegorical thing
团体朝圣 一起踏上一段旅程 or as this group of pilgrims on a kind of journey and quest.
一种探索 当然目的就是最后 Of course, you... you know, you... the deal is you find yourself back home,
会回家 但必须要走完整个旅程 but you have to take this whole journey.
然后展开了看 在美国 And then when you open it up to, you know, here you are in America,
鲍勃关心的所有东西 and... and all the things that Bob seemed to care about
民谣文化 in terms of these other... the... the folk culture
整个都加了进来 is getting thrown in there.
这又是另一个元素 And that's another weave. This sort of...
这种美国人对于救赎的渴望 This... This American yearning for, I don't know, redemption.
...circle be unbroken
By and by, Lord, by and by
哥伦布并没有发现美国 当时这里已经有人了 There's a better... Columbus didn't discover America. There were people here already.
虽然他们偷走了几乎所有 能偷走的东西 Even though they stole most everything they could get their hands on.
我们的土地、子孙 Our land, children, women, whatever, they took it.
女人、所有的一切都偷走了
让我们成了穷人 Left us very poor people.
很多人在自己的国土上无家可归 A lot of our people homeless in our own country.
但其中最好的东西 But the best things of all,
他们完全没有尊重的 that they had no value,
就是我们的生活方式 was our way of life.
雷声滚滚的时候是动听的音乐 It's beautiful music when that thunder rolls.
这也是我名字的来源 And that's the way I got my name.
他们说我以前会像一只小鹰一样尖叫 I used to scream like a little eagle is what they told me.
还穿着尿布的时候就是如此 Even when I was a baby in diapers,
在暴风雨中跑出去 run right out in the storm.
是的 我很喜欢 Yeah, I love it.
闪电中蕴含了很多能量 我可以告诉你 And that lightning flash, there's a lot of power in it, I tell you.
这次巡演就是以滚雷酋长命名的 This tour was named after Chief Rolling Thunder.
所以我们去托斯卡罗拉 印第安人保护区表演 So, it made sense that we go to the Tuscarora Indian Reservation and...
是合理的 and play.
我们会让客人们拿食物吃 We're gonna let our guests get their food.
他们说是食堂的模式 I was just told it's gonna be cafeteria style.
鲍勃在餐桌上就坐在我对面 他说 Bob was seated right across the table from me,
“你记得彼得唱的 关于伊拉·海斯的歌吗？” and he said, "You remember Peter's song about Ira Hayes"
即使到了今天还有东西可以写 And even today, there are things to write about...
作为一个牛仔 我是牛仔 作为一个印第安人 我有印第安血统 for a cowboy, and I'm a cowboy. An Indian, and I'm part Indian.
以及一个人类 Or a human being.
这首歌是关于一个人类的 This is a song about a human being,
他也是印第安人 who is also an Indian.
如果你不记得他的名字 And if you don't remember his name,
我觉得听完这首歌你也许会记住 I think you may after this song.
这首歌叫做《伊拉·海斯》 It's called Ira Hayes.
我站在哪里？这里？ - Where would you want me to stand -
随便站在哪里都行 Anywhere you want. It'll be all right.
聚过来吧各位 我要讲一个故事 Come gather 'round me, people And a story I will tell
关于伊拉·海斯的故事 他是一个你们应该牢记的印第安人 About Ira Hayes, an Indian You should remember well
来自皮马县的部族 是一个骄傲而和平的团体 From the tribe of Pima Indians A proud and a peaceful band
他们在亚利桑那州耕种着凤凰山谷 They farmed the Phoenix Valley In the Arizona land
在他们的山谷里 河水汩汩流淌了上千年 Down their ditches for a thousand years The running water rushed
直到白人夺走了他们的用水权 Till the white man Stole the water rights
河水被迫沉默了 And the running water hushed
伊拉的老乡们挨饿了 他们的农田长满了野草 Now Ira's folks were hungry And their farms grew crops of weeds
但战争来临 伊拉志愿出征 忘记了白人的贪婪 But when war came, Ira volunteered And forgot the white man's greed
250个人开始向硫磺岛山上冲 Now they started up Iwo Jima hill With two hundred and fifty men
但活着走下山头的只剩27个人 But only twenty-seven lived To walk back down that hill again
当战争结束 重新举起旧日的荣耀 And when the fight was over And Old Glory raised
其中一个高举旗帜的人 就是印第安人伊拉·海斯 One of the men that held it high Was the Indian Ira Hayes
叫他醉汉伊拉·海斯 Call him drunken Ira Hayes
他不会再搭理 He won't answer anymore
不再是爱喝威士忌的印第安人 Not the whiskey-drinkin' Indian
也不再是出征的海军陆战队员 Or the Marine that went to war
叫他醉汉伊拉·海斯 Call him drunken Ira Hayes
他不会再搭理 He won't answer anymore
不再是爱喝威士忌的印第安人 Not the whiskey-drinkin' Indian
也不再是出征的海军陆战队员 Or the Marine that went to war
这是一个美国外交勋章 This is a United States diplomatic medal.
上面有… It has... It has, uh...
一个印第安人 以及美国第一支外交团队 an Indian and the first diplomatic team of... of the United States,
这是1776年7月4日 在费城颁发的 was given in Philadelphia on July the 4th, 1776.
据说有可能 Also, been told that there's a possibility
这就是著名的珠子 that these could be the same beads,
这些大的珠子就是彼得·米纽特 these, uh, larger ones, that Peter Minuit
用来和我们换曼哈顿岛的珠子 traded the... our people for Manhattan Island.
你会接受吗 Will you accept this
非常感谢 怎么样大家？ Thanks for everything. What do you say, folks
在半路上出了一些问题 But somewhere along the line, something has failed, and...
我们希望这个国家 不需要花太多时间就能纠正错误 we hope that this country can straighten out before too long,
因为有很多事情需要改变 because there are many things that's going to happen to shape
不仅是这个国家 还有整个世界 not only this country but the world.
鲍勃 Bob.
你们怎么还在这里？ What you... You guys still here
我能问一个问题吗？ Can I ask just one question
威廉·詹兴格杀了可怜的 海蒂·卡罗尔 William Zanzinger Killed poor Hattie Carroll
用他戴着钻石戒指的手指 旋转起手杖杀掉了她 With a cane that he twirled Round his diamond ring finger
在巴尔的摩的一个酒店 全社会都聚集了过来 At a Baltimore hotel Society gath'rin'
警察被召唤到现场 没收了凶器 And the cops were called in And his weapon took from him
他们开车将他押去市里的警察局 As they rode him in custody Down to the station
拘留了威廉·詹兴格 控告他一级谋杀罪 And booked William Zanzinger For first-degree murder
而你将所有耻辱哲学化 批评一切的恐惧 Yes, and you who philosophize disgrace And criticize all fear
将脸上的布条拿下 Take the rag away from your face
现在不是哭泣的时候 Now ain't the time for your tears
只要看到鲍勃演唱 我就会原谅一切 Everything is forgiven whenever I would see Bob sing.
实在是太… It is so...
他的魅力我从没在别人身上见到过 the charisma...that he has, I've never seen anywhere,
前无古人后无来者 before or since.
还有那些歌本身的美妙 And the beauty of those songs...
我不会 I don't.
杰克·凯鲁亚克会飞快地写作 Jack Kerouac, uh, writes like ticker tape.
我曾经看着你飞快地写作 I used to see you write like ticker tape.
我会在你飞快地写作时 喂你吃沙拉和红酒 I used to feed you salad and red wine while you wrote like ticker tape.
是 我记得 Yeah, I remember.
棒极了 Brilliant stuff.
威廉·詹兴格 William Zanzinger.
俯瞰着太平洋 Overlooking the Pacific.
在大苏尔俯瞰遥远的太平洋 对吧？ The wild Pacific Ocean in Big Sur, right
威廉·詹兴格 - William Zanzinger. -
-哪里写的？ -海蒂·卡罗尔 Where was that written "Hattie Carroll."
我觉得是你写得最好的一首歌 One of the best songs I think you ever wrote.
我觉得是你唱得最好的一首歌 I think it's one of the best songs you sing.
谢谢 Thank you.
那你为什么开始唱了？ How come you take it on the stage now
因为你不肯唱了 'Cause you won't sing it.
哦 鲍勃 Oh, Bob.
我当然愿意唱 Sure, I will.
只是因为我唱错了歌词 Just 'cause I screwed up the words.
-我确实很… -你喜欢我的裙子吗？ - Well, it really... - How do you like my dress
不开心你自说自话就结婚了 ...displeases me that you... that you went off and got married
and... and, uh...
你也自说自话就结婚了 还没告诉我 You went off and got married first and didn't tell me.
是的 但是… Yeah, but...
-你应该告诉我的 -但我娶了我爱的女人 - You should have told me or something. - But I married the woman I loved.
我知道这是真的 I know, that's true.
这是真的 That's true.
我嫁了一个我以为我爱的男人 And I married the man I thought I loved.
这就是思考的错 思考会让你倒大霉 See, that's what thought has to do with it. Thought will fuck you up.
你说得对 我同意 You're right. I agree with that.
所以是要用心 不是要用脑子 See, it's heart, it's not... it's not head.
海蒂·卡罗尔是一个厨房的女仆 Hattie Carroll was A maid of the kitchen
她51岁 生了10个孩子 She was fifty-one years old And gave birth to ten children
她洗碗 倒垃圾 She cleaned up the dishes Hauled out the garbage
在餐桌上没坐过一次主坐 And never sat once At the head of the table
她只会从餐桌上清理掉剩饭剩菜 She just cleaned up All the food from the table
再一次次地倒灰缸 And emptied the ash On a whole other level
被击打致死 惨死在手杖下 Got killed by a blow Lay slain by a cane
手杖在空中挥舞 穿过房间砸下 That sailed through the air And came down through the room
注定毁灭 注定摧毁所有温柔 Doomed and determined To destroy all the gentle
他从来没招惹过威廉·詹兴格 And she never done nothing To William Zanzinger
而你将所有的羞耻哲学化 批评一切恐惧 Yes, and you who philosophize disgrace And criticize all fears
将脸上的布条拿下 Take the rag away from your face
现在不是哭泣的时候 Now ain't the time for your tears
在崇高的法庭上 法官敲响木槌 In the courtroom of honor The judge pounded his gavel
以表达众生平等 法庭公正 To show that all's equal And that the courts are on the level
法律并不能轻易控制 That the strings in the books Ain't pulled and persuaded
即使贵族也要得到相应的处置 And that even the nobles Get properly handled
只要警察追查并抓住他们 Once that the cops Have chased after and caught 'em
法律的阶梯没有上下之分 That the ladder of law Has no top and no bottom
盯着那个无端杀人的人 Stared at the person Who killed for no reason
毫无预警地出现了那样的情绪 Who just happened to be feelin' That way without warnin'
他穿着斗篷 话音低沉而高贵 And he spoke through his cloak So deep and distinguished
认真地对他进行惩罚和悔过 Handed out strongly For penalty and repentance
威廉·詹兴格被判六个月监禁 William Zanzinger With a six-month sentence
而你将所有耻辱哲学化 批评一切的恐惧 Yes, and you who philosophize disgrace
And criticize all fear
将布条深深埋入你的脸中 Bury the rag deep in your face
因为现在到了哭泣的时候 Now is the time for your tears
但整个晚上睡意都不来 But sleep won't come The whole night through 1798
你出轨的心会影响你 Your cheatin' heart
Will tell on you
你独自走着 You'll walk the floor
叫着我的名字 And shout my name
时间不够了 我们必须要发表了 The hours are creeping down.
我会写好的 - We got to get the story. - I'm getting it!
你那边时间不够了 我不过每天都在熬夜而已 I'm only up all fuckin' night when the hours are creeping down.
已经给了你他妈好几个星期了 拉里 Well, I mean, you had two fuckin' weeks, Larry.
-做什么？ -讲故事写文章 To do what. To get a story
-而不只是… -我给过你故事了 我给… - instead of... - I gave you a story, I gave you...
但你的故事里面全他妈是漏洞 That had a lot of fuckin' holes in it.
但你是个官僚 - Well, but you're a bureaucrat. - Oh, bullshit.
-胡扯 -你就是 - Where do you get that crap - You ask...
-你这都是哪儿学的？ -你问…
你是个官僚 You are a bureaucrat.
你他妈问我的都是… You ask me fuckin'...
《华尔街日报》才会问的问题 uh, Wall Street Journal questions.
-胡扯 -你问我的都是这些问题 - Bullshit. - Those are the questions...
美国他妈每一个人都想知道… Everybody in the fuckin' country wants to know...
你问我的是音乐圈相关的问题 You're asking me music business questions, man.
这也是一部分 不是吗？ That's part of it, isn't it
但那不是孩子们想读的东西 But that's not what the kids wanna read.
-你怎么知道？ -我了解孩子 我问过他们 - How do you know - I know kids, man! I ask them.
…呼喊我的名字 ...and call my name
《滚石杂志》的兴趣在于 Rolling Stone magazine was interested in the economics,
经济状况 这些人都拿了多少钱 how much are these people getting paid...
为什么随着巡演继续下去 他们也去更大的演出场所表演 You know, why are they playing bigger halls as the tour went on
这是他们问的问题 Those were the kind of questions they were asking,
我对这些东西屁都不在乎 and I didn't give a shit about that.
我关心的 I mean, what I was concerned with was,
是要记录下这个文化盛事 you know, chronicling this...this, uh, cultural event.
能请你喝杯啤酒吗？ - Can I offer you a beer - Sure.
当然
-给你 -谢谢 - There we go. - Thank you.
现在的年代没有很多美第奇家族 There ain't too many Medicis around these days,
而且 and
不管你是去和许多人巡演 whether you're out on the road with a lot of people,
或者是拍电影 or you're making a movie,
或者任何需要资源的创意性的行为 or any kind of creative endeavor that takes resources,
都需要钱 you need money.
你需要去找那些相信能赚回本钱 And you gotta go to somebody who believes that they're gonna get their money back more.
也许还能多赚一点的人 and maybe a little
所以没错 艺术和商业之间总是有 So, yeah, there's always this natural tension
这种天然的张力的 between art and commerce.
好吧 不如砍掉杰克的一首吧 Okay, how 'bout... We gotta cut one of Jack's.
-不行 -他说砍掉骡夫的 - He says to cut "Muleskinner." -
-砍掉骡夫 -砍掉骡夫？好 He wants to cut "Muleskinner." All right. Okay.
我和鲍勃谈吧 I'll talk to Bob about this.
-艾伦要表演吗？ -五分钟 - All right, Allen's gonna do something - Five minutes. Very brief.
告诉你吧 这里的观众完全不同 You got a whole different audience. Did you look at those people
艾伦 Alan
他们都不认识琼·贝兹或者其他人 They're not familiar with Dylan or Baez or anybody else.
-是 -如果你上去聊诗歌 Right. If you go up and spill poetry for any length of time,
聊很长时间 他们肯定就走了 明白吗？ they're gonna be, you know, gone, you know
两分钟 两分钟搞定 艾伦 Make it two minutes, Allen.
两分钟已经足够了 Two minutes is plenty, I'm telling you.
-好吧 -要不要再砍掉几个？ - Okay. - What about more cuts
-好的 两分钟 -我们还要砍掉一些 - Two minutes. - We're still cutting.
演出原本是三个小时 The show was originally three hours.
金斯堡本来要上台的 Ginsberg, who appeared in the show originally,
但演出的时间不够了 there was not enough time for him to perform during the show,
所以他的部分被砍了 so his section was cut.
他和彼得·奥尔洛夫斯基 就成了行李搬运工 He and Peter Orlovsky became the baggage handlers.
我们会把行李放在门外 他每天都会帮我们搬运 We would put our bags outside the door, and he would take them every day.
你他妈是个行李搬运工？ You're a fuckin' luggage handler
-是的 老天 我有时候还给人按摩 -你是个诗人！ - God, yeah, and I give massages sometimes. - You're a poet!
我给自己找点事情做 I make myself useful around, on the, uh...
帮克里斯做新闻通讯 写新闻通讯 Uh... helping Chris with the newsletter and putting out the newsletter.
-你就打杂？ -打杂 是的 - You do errands - Errands, right.
我他妈不敢相信 I can't believe this shit.
这是什么鬼巡演？ What kind of tour is this
你是伟大的诗人 You're a fuckin' great poet, Peter.
学习 练习弹班卓琴 I'm learning... Been practicing banjo, and I've been sitting every morning...
我每天早上会静坐 Uh, tomorrow morning, we're gonna sit with Allen for one hour.
明天早上我要和艾伦一起静坐
-一小时 -做什么？ - To do what - After we wake up, sit and meditate.
睡醒之后 静坐冥想
在加拿大多伦多 戈登·莱特福特家搞的派对 At a party at Gordon Lightfoot's house,
Toronto, Canada.
琼尼·米歇尔会在派对上唱新歌 Joni Mitchell, she would go out and do her new songs.
不会唱热门的歌 She wouldn't do any hits.
观众对于这些新歌的反响比较沉默 And the audience reaction was a little sort of muted for these new songs,
因为艺术家尝试新歌的时候 大部分都是这样 as it usually is when artists try to do new songs.
我记得她过来说 And I remember, she came off and she said,
“麦奎因 我不知道为什么 我害怕上场 我不能够…” "McGuinn, I don't know why I'm so scared out there. I just don't..."
我说：“因为你一直在唱新歌 I said, "You're just doing new songs.
你应该唱几首他们听过的 这样他们就会放松一点” You ought to do something that they recognize, and then they'll, you know, loosen up."
她说：“不行 我不能这么做 我觉得这样不好” She said, "No, no, I... I can't do that. I think that's a bad idea."
我很佩服她有勇气只唱新歌 I admired her for her courage to do the new stuff only.
她的这些个都是在巡演途中 为了这次巡演写的 Joni wrote this song about this tour, and on this tour, and for this tour.
好的 D小调 Okay, D-minor now.
有点不和谐音 Yeah, some dissonance.
我一直高调宣称 我最喜欢的三位男性词曲作者 I had been loudly proclaiming that my three favorite male songwriters
是鲍勃·迪伦 莱纳德·科恩 和金基·弗赖德曼 were Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen, and Kinky Friedman.
所以琼尼有天在后台质问我说 So, Jonistarted interrogating me backstage one day, saying,
“什么叫男性？ "What do you mean, male
为什么要特别区分男性词曲作者？ Why do you make that distinction, male songwriters
我的歌呢？ I mean, what about my stuff
你不把我的作品 I mean, don't you characterize my stuff, like, you know,
和鲍勃及莱纳德·科恩 放在同一级别吗？” in the same league as Bob and Leonard Cohen"
我们就开始了大规模的讨论 And we got into this long discussion about,
男女的不同视角 荣格的分析心理学中的阿尼玛斯 well, the male versus female perspective, and anima-animus,
男女的互动关系等等 and, you know, male-female dynamic, and everything, you know.
成了一个持久的对质 我们也因此成了朋友 But it became this long, drawn-out confrontation, and we bonded on that.
不要后悔 大灰狼 No regrets, Coyote
我们只是来自不同的背景 We just come from such different sets Of circumstance
我整晚都在录音室里 I'm up all night in the studios
而你则一大早就在你的牧场醒来 And you're up early on your ranch
梳理种母马的鬃毛 Brushing out a broodmare's tail
太阳慢慢升起 While the sun is ascending
而我则拿着录音带刚刚到家 And I'll just be getting home With my reel-to-reel
无法理解 There's no comprehending
骨骼 肌肤 Just how close To the bone and the skin
眼眉和唇齿多么接近 And the eyes and the lips you can get
却依然觉得如此孤单 And still feel so alone
仍然觉得相关 And still feel related
像是驿站中的一个 Like stations in a relay
你不是个肇事逃逸司机 不是的 You're not a hit-and-run driver No, no
快速开走 Racing away
你只是接了一个搭便车的乘客 You just picked up a hitcher
在高速公路上 是白色线条的囚徒 A prisoner of the white lines On the freeway
我们看到一个农舍烧毁 We saw a farmhouse burning down
在偏远的角落 In the middle of nowhere
在深夜时分 In the middle of the night
我们直接无视了那场悲剧 And we rolled right past that tragedy
一直开到路边有灯的地方 Till we came to some roadside lights
一些当地的乐队在表演 And a local band was playing
当地人在舞池里矫揉造作地摇摆 Locals were mincin' And shakin' on the floor
下一件我知道的事情就是 The next thing I know
大灰狼来到了我家门口 That Coyote's at my door
他把我堵在了一个角落里 听不进去我的拒绝 And he pins me in a corner And he won't take no
把我拖进舞池 He drags me out on the dance floor
靠得很近 跳着慢舞 And we're dancin' close and slow
他家里有个女人 He's got a woman at home
晚上也有个女人 现在他又想找一个白天的女人 One for the night And now he wants one for the day
你为什么要喝得这么醉 Oh, why'd you have to get so drunk
引我上这条路 And lead me on that way
你只是接了一个搭便车的乘客 You just picked up a hitcher
在高速公路上 是白色线条的囚徒 A prisoner of the white lines And the freeway
我给霍珀打电话吧 Let's call Hopper, man.
妈的 让我换个台 Fuck yeah. Let me change channels.
你为什么会有那个？ Why do you have that
你想听什么台？31频道？ What are you on, channel 31
-给我… -好的 - Uh, give me, uh... - Okay.
好的 Okay.
我带着问题找到了露丝女士 I took my troubles Down to Madame Rue
你知道的 那个镶了金牙的吉普赛人 You know that gypsy With the gold-capped tooth
她在34街和凡恩大道上有家店 She's got a pad Down on Thirty-Fourth and Vine
卖小瓶装的九号爱情魔药 Sellin' little bottles Of Love Potion Number Nine
诗歌 What poetry is,
是关于天然的东西的 我们现在所在的地方 the natural object, where we are now,
永远都有足够的符号 is always adequate symbol,
不需要自己创造浪漫的迷思 so you don't have to invent romantic myths,
海边的钻石舞者 diamond dancers on oceansides.
钢笔的摩擦声 酒吧后面的吵闹声 The scratching of the pen or the noise in the back of the bar
都是音乐的一部分 is part of the music.
她弯腰 回头 朝我眨了个眼 She bent down, turned around And gave me a wink
她说 我就直接在水槽里混合 She said, "I'm gonna mix it up Right here in the sink"
闻起来像松节油… It smelled like turpentine...
我从来没有像今天这样对美国 I've never had more faith in America
有这么大的信心 than I do today.
现在的美国 用鲍勃·迪伦的话形容 We have an America
that, in Bob Dylan's phrase,
正在忙着出生 is busy being born,
而不是忙着消亡 not busy dying.
我很欣赏吉米·卡特 I was very enamored of Jimmy Carter.
我觉得他是个高尚、有趣的人 He... I thought he was a really soulful, interesting guy,
他也喜欢我 and he liked me.
所以我和他保持了很长时间的友谊 So, you know, Imaintained a relationship with him for a long time.
因为他 那天晚上我去了滚雷音乐会 And he's the guy who got me into the Rolling Thunder concert that night.
吉米·卡特 Jimmy Carter.
这又是另一个故事了 Which is another story.
我当时是国会最年轻的议员之一 I was... I was one of the youngest members of the Congress.
所以我… And so I was, um...
我确实是夹在两代人中间 Yeah, I mean, I was torn between two generations there.
被两个方向同时拉扯 I was being pulled in both... You know, you want to get anything done,
如果想有所成就 就必须和国会的人搞好关系 you have to get along with people in the Congress.
现在的国会什么都不做了 因为没有人想真的做事 You know, you don't get anything done anymore because nobody wants to, but...
但当年 确实是会努力 in my day you, you know, you made an effort
和这些人搞好关系的 to get along with these guys.
大部分人比我年纪要大得多 And most of them were considerably older than I was.
迪伦被很多国会议员当成敌人看待 And Dylan was considered the enemy, really, by a lot of these guys.
我成长的年代是 如果想做大人 I had grown up in this era where, you know, you wanted to be an adult,
就要和爸爸一起喝马天尼酒 而现在 you wanted to drink a martini with your dad, you know.
信条则是永远不要相信超过30岁的人 And now...
you know, "Never trust anybody over 30." Right
我则被夹在了中间 And I'm caught in the middle of this,
在国会要应付这些老人 and I'm dealing in the Congress with all these old guys, and...
所以是个很有趣的困境 You know, it's an interesting conundrum.
我个人在刑事司法系统方面的兴趣 My own interest in the criminal justice system
是非常由衷的 is very heartfelt.
我个人对于这个社会 One of the sources for my understanding about
是非曲直的理解 what's right and wrong in this society
是很私人的 来自我的一个密友 is from a personal, very close friend of mine
伟大的诗人 鲍勃·迪伦 a great poet named Bob Dylan.
在听过他的《海蒂·卡罗尔歌谣》 After listening to his records about "The Ballad of Hattie Carroll"
《像一块滚石》这些唱片后 and "Like a Rolling Stone,"
我学会了理解现代社会变化的动态 I've learned to appreciate the dynamism of change in a modern society.
我的父亲是个地主 I grew up as a landowner's son,
但我觉得我一直没有理解地主 but I don't think I ever realized that the proper interrelationship
和为地主工作的农民之间真正的关系 between the landowner and those who worked on a farm
直到我听到了迪伦的唱片 until I heard Dylan's record,
《我不会再在玛姬的农场上工作了》 "I Ain't Gonna Work On Maggie's Farm No More."
我去应该是亚特兰大开了个会 So I went to this meeting, I believe it was in Atlanta.
吉米也去了 我们聊了几件事 Jimmy was there, and he and I spoke about a few things.
我不记得还有什么没说完的 And I can't remember exactly what was left unsaid,
但我告诉他说 当天晚上我会给他回电话 but I told him that I would call him back that night,
结束我们的交谈 我必须赶去机场了 and we were gonna finish this conversation. I had to get to the airport.
我上了飞机要飞回家 So I get on the flight, I'm trying to get home.
遇上了风暴 飞机转降尼亚加拉瀑布城 And I got caught in a storm, and we got diverted to Niagara Falls.
我被航空公司安排住进了 And I get stashed in this cheesy little motel
一个俗气的小汽车旅馆 that the airline put us up in.
我给吉米打电话说我还没到家 I called Jimmy to say I hadn't reached home,
但我们可以明天再聊 他说： “你在哪儿？” but we could talk tomorrow, and he said, "Where are you"
我说：“我在尼亚加拉瀑布城” 他说：“哈 And I said, "I'm in Niagara Falls." And he says, "Well,
你中头彩了 因为 you just hit the jackpot because...
鲍勃·迪伦今晚会在那里举行 滚雷演唱会 because Bob Dylan's doing this Rolling Thunder concert
你可以去看” there tonight, and you can go."
他说：“我会给他打电话 安排让你进去” He said, "I'll call him and I'll get you in."
Dylan!
迪伦 你真美 Dylan, you're beautiful!
山姆大叔要唱 Uncle Sam is going to sing
自己版本的《星条旗》 one of his versions of "The Star-Spangled Banner."
女士们先生们 Ladies and gentlemen...
我看见这一代最优秀的人被疯狂摧毁 I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness,
挨饿 歇斯底里… starving hysterical...
这首歌是关于一个人类的 他也是个印第安人 This song about a human being who is also an Indian.
让美国再次成为美国 - "Let America be America again." - And if you don't remember...
如果你不记得的话
让它成为昔日的梦 "Let it be the dream it used to be."
不 对不起 你不能…打扰一下 No, I'm sorry, you... you can't...
你不能在这里拍摄 - Excuse me. You can't shoot in here. - You need authorization.
你不能在这里拍摄 先生 You cannot shoot in here, sir.
我为什么不能在这里拍摄？ - Why can't I shoot in here -
他摄像机还开着 He's running the camera
你是那个机构来的？ .What organization are you from
（哥伦比亚广播公司唱片公司）
-你知道你要去哪儿吗？先生 -不清楚 你得问他 Do you know where you're going to. I don't know. You'll have to ask him.
抱歉给你添麻烦了 I'm sorry you had the hassle.
我们不知道你要来 Uh, we didn't know you were coming.
很明显是这样 Obviously.
我们刚好在附近 所以 We just happened to be in the neighborhood.
-我听见你说话了 -如果你不介意的话 我想接着拍摄 - I heard it was you. - I brought a friend if you don't mind.
当然可以 我不介意 No, I don't mind,
抱歉楼下给你添麻烦了 but I'm sorry you had any trouble downstairs.
埃尔文，这是Bob Uh, Irwin, this is Bob.
-鲍勃 你好吗？ -挺好的 - How are you - Good.
…但如果你想 But if you're looking...
实际上帮助这个人 to help the guy, in effect,
如果你的目的是社会方面的 而不是纯粹想发唱片的话 you know, and your purpose is a social one rather than a record one,
那我觉得也许在房间里做评论 会更合理一点 then I think it probably would make sense, you know, to comment, you know, early.
你明白我的意思吗？ 我不知道你的动机是什么 You know what I'm saying I don't know what your motivations are.
你就随口这么说了 我还没有仔细考虑过 You're kind of throwing it out and I haven't given a lot of thought.
我觉得会有调幅广播前40榜单的问题 I think there's a Top 40 AM problem.
相反的 也许在比如说东部地区有很多黑人电台 Conversely, there may be a lot of black radio play, for example, in the east.
-可能会在调幅广播里播放 -WWRL很可能有空档 - Or you make it AM play. - So WWRL would...
这是个鲍勃·迪伦的声明 所以非常独特 It's a Bob Dylan statement, that it is unique.
不管谁想播都可以播 Whoever wants to play it can play it,
他的想法就是要将这首歌推出去 but the idea is he wants it on the streets,
这样人们想要做什么都行 so people can do with it what they want.
考虑到这些警告 But with those caveats,
你的动机就是尝试帮助他 your motivation is to try to do what you can for the guy,
那最好就尽快做 then it probably makes sense to do it as quickly as possible.
那就是他的动机 - That's the motivation. - Uh...
手枪的枪声在晚上的酒吧间里响亮 Pistol shots ring out In a barroom night
帕蒂·瓦伦丁从楼上大厅走进来 Enter Patty Valentine From the upper hall
她看到酒保躺在血泊中 She sees the bartender In a pool of blood
大叫：“天哪 他们杀了所有人！” Cries out, "My God They killed them all"...
如果他们能在一周内把歌推出去 就挺好的 If they can get it out on the street in a week that's, you know, that's good.
及时 That's what they were talking about.
鲁宾·“飓风”·卡特是出色的拳击手 Rubin Carter was an amazing boxer,
中量级的 middleweight,
他被陷害 who had been framed
在新泽西犯了谋杀罪 for a murder in New Jersey
然后在拉威州立监狱受苦 and was languishing now in Rahway State Prison.
鲍勃写了这首难以置信的歌 Bob wrote this incredible song,
《飓风》 很关注救他出来这件事 "Hurricane," and was very concerned about getting him out.
我以前写过和拳击手有关的歌 这并不是第一次 I'd written songs about boxers before, so that was nothing new, but, uh...
但我以前从来没考虑过飓风
I hadn't really thought about, uh, Hurricane...
因为我对飓风不了解 because I didn't know about Hurricane.
Uh...
It...
之前从来没接触过 It never really crossed my path.
我拿到了书 读了一下 I got the book. I read it.
然后提醒自己如果要去东部 Um, I, you know, made a mental note that if I was coming east,
如果我在东部 我会去探访他 or if I was east, I would, uh, visit him.
我们在那儿待了一天 我印象中是 We were there for, you know, most of the day, as far as I can remember.
我们早上去的 出来的时候天都黑了 Uh, we got there in the morning and then left him when it was dark.
我意识到他的哲学 I realized the man's philosophy
和我的哲学是一路的 and my philosophy were running on the same road.
而且 You know, and, uh,
很少遇到这样的人 you don't meet too many people like that,
你知道在思想上你们是一路的 you know, that you just know that kinda on the same path, mentally, you know.
迪伦和其他所有来看我的人都不同 Yeah. Dylan was different than other people who came to see me.
其他人都会问很明显的问题 I mean, other people would ask the obvious questions.
“鲁宾 你有罪吗？” "Rubin, are you guilty"
“你到底有没有犯这个罪？” You know, "Did you commit this crime"
“你到底有没有做？” "Did you do that" You know.
但迪伦没有问这些 But Dylan wasn't asking that.
完全没问 感觉他在搜寻别的东西 Not at all. It seemed like he was searching for something else.
他好像是在说 It was as if he was saying,
“你是谁？” "Who are you, man"
“你是我看到的这种人吗？” You know, "Are you what I see"
有个朋友把他写的歌的歌词发给我看 让我看他的歌词 I had a friend of mine send me his lyrics to his songs,
and so I could read his lyrics,
让我大概了解和我聊天的人是谁 so I can get an... an idea of who I'm talkin' to here, you know.
然后 And...
我发现一些很有趣的东西 I found something that was, uh, very interesting.Very...
将我们联系在一起 That really connected us.
我们俩都是表演者 都是取悦观众的人 Both of us were... were performers and crowd-pleasers.
我用的是我恶毒的左勾拳 You know, me with the vicious left hook,
我的父母在黑人种族隔离的南部长大 you know, whose parents grew up in the Jim Crow South,
而迪伦则用他游吟诗人的本事 and Dylan, uh, you know, with his... uh... the troubadour.
所以你回来之后 就有了写一首歌的初步想法？ So you got back, and you had the germ of an idea to do a song
-是 -为什么？ - Yeah. - Why
这是要回到用歌曲抗议吗？ I mean, you know, is this a return to protest...
是又回到海蒂·卡罗尔那里了吗？ I mean...
You know, is this, uh, "Hattie Carroll" revisited
出现了司法不公正 Um, there's an injustice that has been done, you know.
这可能会发生在任何人身上 And the fact is that it can happen to anybody.
所以 - Mm-hmm. - You know
-我们必须坚定这一点 -所以… - And we have to be confronted with that. - So... So...
这首歌叫做《飓风》 This song is called "Hurricane."
如果你有任何的政治影响力 If you got any political pull at all,
也许你能帮我们把这个人放出监狱 maybe you can help us get this man out of jail,
让他回到街头 back onto the streets.
手枪的枪声在晚上的酒吧间里响亮 Pistol shots ring out In the barroom night
帕蒂·瓦伦丁从楼上大厅走进来 Enter Patty Valentine From the outer hall
她看到酒保躺在血泊中 She sees the bartender In a pool of blood
大叫：“天哪 他们杀了所有人！” Cries out, "My God, They've killed 'em all!"
飓风的故事就这样开始了 Here comes the story of the Hurricane
他成了当局怪罪的人 The man the authorities came to blame
怪罪他从未犯过的罪 For somethin' that he never done
把他投入监狱 而他本可以 Put in a prison cell But one time he coulda been
成为世界冠军 The champion of the world
帕蒂看到地上躺着三具尸体 Three bodies lyin' there Does Patty see
还有另一个叫北罗的男人形迹可疑 And another man named Bello Movin' mysteriously
他说 不是我干的 举起了双手 "I didn't do it," he says And he throws up his hands
我只是在抢劫收银机 你懂的 "I was only robbin' the register You understand
我看到他们离开了 他停下说 I saw them leave, though" he says And he stops
我们最好报个警 "One of us had better Call on the cops"
于是帕蒂报了警 And so Patty calls the cops
警车闪着红灯抵达现场 And they arrive on the scene With their red lights flashin'
这是个炎热的新泽西的晚上 In the hot New Jersey night
与此同时 在城市的另一头 Meanwhile, far away In another part of town
鲁宾·卡特和几个朋友在开车兜风 Rubin Carter and a couple of friends Are drivin' around
他是中量级拳击的头号种子选手 Number one contender For the middleweight crown
完全不知道接下来会发生什么 Had no idea what kinda shit Was about to go down
一个警察将他拦下 When a cop pulled him over To the side of the road
就像之前那样 以及再之前那样 Just like the time before And the time before that
在帕特森 情况就是如此 In Paterson, that's the way things go
如果你是黑人 不如选择不要上街 If you're black, you might as well Not show up on the streets
除非你想给自己招来注意力 'Less you want to draw the heat
阿尔弗雷德·北罗给警察布下陷阱 Alfred Bello, he laid this rap On the cops
我和亚瑟·德克斯特·布拉德利 就在附近徘徊 "Me and Arthur Dexter Bradley Were in here prowlin' around
看到两个人逃了出来 他们看起来 像中量级拳击手 We saw two men runnin' out of here They looked like middleweights
跳上一辆白色的汽车 挂着别的州的车牌 Jumped into a white car With out-of-state plates"
帕蒂·瓦伦丁小姐只是点了点头 And Miss Patty Valentine Just nodded her head
警察说 慢着各位 这个人还没死 Cop said, "Wait a minute, boys This one's not dead"
于是送他去了医务室 So they took him to the infirmary
虽然这个人几乎看不见 And though this man could hardly see
还是叫他指认凶手 They told him that he could identify The guilty men
凌晨四点 他们逮捕了鲁宾 Four in the mornin' And they haul Rubin in
带他去医院 带他上楼 Took him to the hospital And they brought him upstairs
伤着抬起头 用一只将死的眼睛 The wounded man looks up Through his one dyin' eye
看着他说 你们带他过来干什么？ 他又不是凶手！ Says, "Why'd you bring him in here for He ain't the guy!"
这就是飓风的故事 Yes, here's the story of the Hurricane
当局决定要背罪的人 The man the authorities came to blame
背上他从没犯过的罪 For somethin' that he never done
将他投入监狱 而他本可成为 Put in a prison cell But one time he coulda been
世界冠军 The champion of the world
四个月后 贫民窟着火 Four months later The ghettos are in flame
鲁宾在南美洲为荣誉而战 Rubin's in South America Fightin' for his name
亚瑟·德克斯特·布拉德利仍在抢劫 Arthur Dexter Bradley's Still in the robbery game
警察向他施压 寻找替罪羔羊 And the cops are Puttin' the screws to him
Lookin' for someone to blame
记得那天晚上酒吧的谋杀案吗？ "Remember that murder That happened in a bar
记得你说你见过那辆逃逸的车吗？ Remember you said you saw The getaway car
你想与法律部门合作吗？ You think you'd like to play ball With the law
你觉得你看到逃跑的 有可能是那个拳击手吗？ Think it mighta been that fighter That you saw runnin' that night
别忘了 你是白人 Don't forget now, you're white"
亚瑟·德克斯特·布拉德利说 我真的不确定 Arthur Dexter Bradley said "I'm really not sure"
警察说 你这样穷苦的孩子 需要交个好运 Cops said "A poor boy like you could use a break
我们给你找了汽车旅馆的工作 我们在和你的朋友北罗聊 We got you for the motel job We're talkin' to your friend Bello
你不需要回监狱坐牢了 做个好人 You don't wanna have to go back to jail Be a nice fellow
你这算是帮了社会的忙 You'll be doin' society a favor
那个混账东西太大胆了 而且越来越大胆 That son of a bitch is brave And gettin' braver
我们需要叫他坐牢 We want to put his ass in stir
我们想把三重谋杀罪栽赃给他 We want to pin this triple murder On him
他可不是什么绅士 吉姆 He ain't no Gentleman Jim"
鲁宾的审判都是提前操纵好的 All of Rubin's cards were marked In advance
审判就是个警察安排的闹剧 他毫无胜算 The trial was a pig-circus He never had a chance
法官安排贫民窟的醉鬼做鲁宾的证人 The judge made Rubin's witnesses Drunkards from the slums
在旁观的白人眼中 他就是个革命性的流浪汉 To the white folks who watched He was a revolutionary bum
在黑人眼中 他就是个发了疯的黑鬼 And to the black folks He was just a crazy nigger
没人怀疑就是他扣下了扳机 No one doubted That he pulled the trigger
虽然他们没有找出凶器 And though they could not produce The gun
检方说就是他干的 The DA said he was the one Who did the deed
都是白人的陪审团表示同意 And the all-white jury agreed
鲁宾·卡特被错误审判 Rubin Carter was falsely tried
被判一级谋杀 猜猜谁出庭作证了？ The crime was murder one Guess who testified
北罗和布拉德利 两人都说了谎 Bello and Bradley, and they both lied
报纸都跟风报道 And the newspapers They all went along for the ride
这样一个人的人生 How can the life of such a man
为何会落入一些蠢蛋的股掌之间？ Be in the palm of some fool's hand
看到他显然被诬陷 To see him obviously framed
让我无法控制地感到羞耻 生活在这样一个国家 Couldn't help but make me feel ashamed To live in a land
在这里 公平只是一场游戏 Where justice is a game
现在所有穿着外套 打着领带的罪犯… Now all the criminals In their coats and their ties...
现在所有穿着外套 打着领带的罪犯 "Now all the criminals in their coats and ties
都可以自由自在地喝马天尼酒 看着太阳升起 are free to drink martinis and watch the... and watch the sun rise."
于此同时鲁宾像佛祖一样 坐在三平米的牢房里 "While Rubin sits like Buddha in a ten-foot cell,
人间炼狱中的一个无辜的人 an innocent man in a living hell."
我觉得太棒了 I thought that was great.
因为《飓风歌谣》 Because the ballad of the Hurricane...
表达了一条不可磨灭的信息 司法不公 uh, sent an indelible message of justice gone awry,
明白吗？ you know what I mean
所以 So... So...
迪伦通过此举将这个信息 远远地传播开去 Dylan doing that spread the word far and wide.
这就是飓风的故事 That's the story of the Hurricane
但故事不会结束 直到他们还他清白 But it won't be over Till they clear his name
补偿他坐牢的时间 And give him back the time he's done
将他投入监狱 他本可以成为 Put in a prison cell But one time he coulda been
世界冠军 The champion of the world
让我介绍你给大家认识 Let me introduce you to everybody.
很多来帮助我的人都是白人 Many of the people who came to help me were white people,
这肯定让当局震惊了 which must have surprised the authorities,
因为当局声称我犯下这些罪 because the authorities claimed that I committed this crime
是因为我恨白人 because of my hatred for white people.
但这么多白人 But here's all these white folks
来帮这个可怜的黑人 coming to help this poor black man
他无辜被陷害坐牢 who's in prison for something that he didn't do,
他没有犯罪 something that he didn't do. I mean, it...
非常棒 it was great.
如果法庭拒绝 你会怎么做？ What happens if the courts say no, where do you go from there
你还会再次上诉吗？ Are you gonna go back into the courts once again
如果法庭拒绝 那我们就继续抗争 If the courts say no, we just keep on fighting.
没有拒绝这回事 There's no such... There's no such thing as no.
只有肯定的回答 There's just yes,
前方道路敞亮 我们会继续抗争 and the road is straight ahead, and we keep on going.
鲍勃永远都在搜寻 Bob always been searching.
我现在每次见鲍勃 我们不常见面 Every time I see Bob now, and which we don't see each other frequently,
但我每次见他都会问： “你找到了吗 鲍勃？” but every time I see him, I ask Bob, "Have you found it yet, Bob"
鲍勃会说：“我找到了” And Bob says, "Yeah, I found it."
但我知道他还没找到 因为他还在继续搜寻 But I know he hasn't, 'cause he keeps searching.
他经常说：“你今天要搜寻什么？” He'd always say, "Hey, what are you searching for today"
我会说：“什么？” I'd say, "What"
他会说：“我知道你是个搜寻者 你在搜寻什么？” He'd say, "I know you're a searcher. What are you searching for"
我说：“飓风 我在搜寻圣杯” I'd say, uh, "Well, Hurricane, I'm searching for the Holy Grail."
他说：“什么？” And he'd say, "What"
我说：“我会一直搜寻 直到找到为止 就像加拉哈德骑士” I said, "I'm gonna search until I find it, like Sir Galahad."
这就是我要搜寻的东西 That's what I'm looking for.
五分钟 - Five minutes. Five minutes. -
你觉得他是个天才吗？ Do you think he's a genius
鲍勃·迪伦是个天才吗？ Is Bob Dylan a genius
不知道 那是个奇怪的词 I don't know. That's a strange word.
也许吧 Maybe.
我觉得他做的最棒的一件事 就是将一群积极性很高 I think the most brilliant thing he did was putting a group of highly motivated
又充满抱负的人聚在一起 上火车 完全不管 and ambitious people on a train with no supervision,
让他们成为自己最极端的版本 and then let them become the most extreme versions of themselves.
这是你对这件事的描述吗？ Is that how you'd describe what happened
我知道我就是这么个情况 I know that's what happened to me.
走吧 Let's go. Let's go.
走吧 Let's go.
那你为什么要来和我聊？ So, why did you come here to speak to me
我想表达出我的诉求 Well, to try and, you know, stake my claim
我是来说：“这就是我 这个电影是我拍的” and say, "Here I am, this is me. I'm the one who made this.
你们在用这个电影 You're using it.
没有我这就不会存在 我是拍电影的人 This wouldn't exist without me. I'm the filmmaker here."
1975年12月4日 加拿大蒙特利尔 December 4th, 1975, Montreal, Canada,
滚雷巡演的最后一场计划内演出 last scheduled concert for the Rolling Thunder Revue.
我们这些灵魂集结在 滚雷巡演的最后一站 We phantoms are assembled at the end of the Rolling Thunder tour.
罗杰？走了 卢瑟？ Roger Let's go. Luther
我们开始这段旅程是为了找回美国 We started out trying to recover America.
我们发现了一些自己的真相 We discovered a certain amount of truth about ourselves.
本以为爱意已经消失的老朋友 Old friends who thought their loves had been lost
得以重聚 并能够真诚地面对彼此 were able to get together and, uh, face each other eye to eye
对着电子麦克风合唱 and sing over an electrical microphone
以取悦无数的年轻的向往者们 to please the desires of myriad young yearners,
他们一直在寻找某种联盟和社区 who had been seeking some kind of union and community
在那里看到了社区的形象 and saw therein an image of that community.
巡演成功吗？ Was the tour a success
巡演是一场灾难 惨不忍睹 The tour was a disaster, it was a catastrophe.
我告诉他说 我们应该去两万人的场地演出 - Why - Well, I told 'em we should be playing to 20,000-seaters,
但他们却想在小场地表演 but instead, you know, they wanted to play all these small joints.
台上有16到18个人演出 还有15个舞台助理和工程师 Now you've got 16 to 18 people onstage, and you got 15 people on the back line.
要付巴士、酒店、餐饮的钱 但只去三千人的 Buses and hotel rooms and catering, and you're only playing to houses
场馆表演 with 3,000 seats,
所以肯定会亏钱 so you're gonna hemorrhage money.
还没上路的时候就已经亏损了 We were in the red before we even got on the road.
不 没有成功 No, it wasn't a success.
如果用获利来衡量的话肯定不算成功 Not if you measure success in terms of profit.
但在冒险的层面上是成功的 But it was a sense of adventure.
所以在很多方面都是非常成功的 So, in many ways, yes, it was very successful.
走了 Let's go.
该走了 Time to go.
- Come on. We're on. - Yeah, Rob, you look pretty.
那次巡演遗留到今天的还有什么？ What remains of that tour to this day
没有了 Nothing.
没有任何东西 Not one single thing.
灰烬 Ashes.
妈妈 擦掉我脸上的血 Mama, wipe the blood off of my face
我已经看不清楚了 I can't see through it anymore
我需要有人和我交谈 我需要新的躲藏之处 I need someone to talk to And a new hiding place
我觉得我在敲开天堂之门 I feel like I'm knockin' On heaven's door
敲啊敲 敲开天堂之门 Knock, knock, knockin' On heaven's door
妈妈 我能听到雷声滚滚 Mama, I can hear that thunder roll
从上帝遥远的海岸传来回声 Echoing down from God's distant shore
我能听到他在呼喊我的灵魂 I can hear Him calling out for my soul
我觉得我在敲开天堂之门 l feel I'm knocking on heaven's door
敲啊敲 敲开天堂之门 Knock, knock, knockin' On heaven's door
你们所有看到了片段和瞬间的人 You who saw it all, or saw flashes and fragments,
以我们为例 吸取一些教训 take from us some example,
试着重新振作起来 try and get yourselves together,
改正你的行为 找到属于你的社区 clean up your act, find your community,
做一些对于你自己的意识的 所谓的救赎行为 pick up on some kind of redemption of your own consciousness,
更在意你的朋友 become more mindful of your own friends,
你自己的作品 your own work,
你自己的冥想 your own proper meditation,
你自己的艺术 your own proper art,
和你自己的美 your own beauty.
迈出去 将之变为你自己的永恒 Go out and make it for your own eternity.
敲啊敲 敲开天堂之门 Knock, knock, knockin' On heaven's door
（滚雷巡演） Knock, knock, knockin' On heaven's door
（1975年） Knock, knock, knockin' On heaven's door
（第二次滚雷巡演 1976年） The water is wide
And I can't cross over
（滚雷巡演 1978年）
（1979年 1980年） I've neither wings
That I could fly
（1981年 1984年）
Build me a boat
（1986年 1987年）
（1988年） That can carry two
（1989年）
（1990年） And both shall row
（1991年）
（1992年） My love and I
（1993年）
（1994年）
（1995年）
（1996年）
（1997年）
（1998年） There is a ship
（1999年）
（2000年） And it sails on the sea
（2001年）
（2002年） Loaded deep
（2003年）
（2004年） As deep can be
（2005年）
（2006年） But not as deep
（2007年）
（2008年） As the love I'm in
（2009年）
（2010年） And both shall row
（2011年）
（2012年）
（2013年） My love and I
（2014年）
（2015年）
（2016年）
（2017年）
（2018年）
Bob!
（特别出演：鲍勃·迪伦）
Encore!
（返场加演）
灼热骄阳下的辣椒 Hot chili peppers In the blistering sun
我脸上和斗篷上的灰尘 Dust on my face and my cape
我和马格达雷娜逃走了 Me and Magdalena on the run
这次我们应该能逃掉 I think this time we shall escape
把我的吉他卖给面包师的儿子 Sold my guitar to the baker's son
换几块面包和容身之所 For a few crumbs and a place to hide
但我可以再弄一把 But I can get another one
骑在马上为马格达雷娜弹奏 And I'll play for Magdalena as we ride
亲爱的 别哭 No llores, mi querida
神会眷顾我们 Dios nos vigila
马儿很快就会送我们到杜兰戈 Soon the horse will take us to Durango
生活 不要放弃我 Agárrame, mi vida
沙漠很快就会过去 Soon the desert will be gone
很快你就会跳起方丹戈舞 Soon you will be dancing the fandango
穿过阿兹特克遗迹和先人的灵魂 Past the Aztec ruins And the ghosts of our people
蹄声就像响板敲在石头 Hoofbeats like castanets on stone
夜里梦到村里尖塔的钟声 At night, I dream of bells In the village steeple
然后看到雷蒙满是鲜血的脸 Then I see the bloody face of Ramon
在酒馆开枪打他的是我吗？ Was it me that shot him down In the cantina
是我的手握着枪吗？ Was it my hand that held the gun
让我们飞吧 我的马格达雷娜 Come let us fly, my Magdalena
狗在叫 事已至此 The dogs are barking And what's done is done
亲爱的 别哭 No llores, mi querida
神会眷顾我们 Dios nos vigila
马尔很快就会送我们到杜兰戈 Soon the horse will take us to Durango
生活 不要放弃我 Agárrame, mi vida
沙漠很快就会过去 Soon the desert will be gone
很快你就会跳起方丹戈舞 Soon you will be dancing the fandango
我们坐在树荫下 At the corrida, we'll sit in the shade
看着年轻的斗牛士独自站着 And watch the young torero stand alone
在我们祖父生活的地方喝龙舌兰酒 Drank tequila Where our grandfathers stayed
他们和村民们骑着马来到托雷翁 When they rode with Villa into Torreón
神父念诵古老的祈语 And the padre will recite The prayers of old
在镇上的小教堂 In the little church this side of town
我会穿新靴 戴金耳环 I'll wear new boots And an earring of gold
你穿着婚服戴着钻石 美丽动人 You'll shine with diamonds In your wedding gown
我是听到了雷声吗？ Was that the thunder that I heard
我脑袋在震荡 感到剧烈的痛 My head is vibrating I feel a sharp pain
坐我旁边 不要说话 Come sit by me, don't say a word
会不会要来杀我？ Oh, can it be that I am slain
快 马格达雷娜 拿上我的枪 Quick, Magdalena, take my gun
看看山上的闪光 Look up in the hills That flash of light
小姑娘 瞄准好 Aim well, my little one
我们可能活不过今晚 We may not make it through the night