你想试试妈妈的自行车吗？ Do you wanna try Mum's bike,
因为它有更好的悬挂？ because it's got better suspension?
如果她掉下去或者出了什么问题， If she falls off or something goes wrong,
这完全是我的错。 it's entirely my fault.
当我看到我的孩子做疯狂的事情 When I see my kids do crazy things and
疯狂的特技和冒险，他们完全 wild stunts and take risks, and they're completely
沉浸在一种体验中，我有一种奇妙的感觉 immersed in an experience, I have a wonderful sense
骄傲和感激， of pride and appreciation,
还有大量的嫉妒。 and a huge amount of jealousy.
主要是嫉妒。 Mostly jealousy.
我觉得我年纪越大，就越 I think the older I've gotten and the more
熟悉的事物已经变成， familiar things have become,
我发现自己失去了一些那种感觉 I've found myself missing some of that sense
我小时候的快乐和玩耍 of joy and play that I had when I was a kid,
我很渴望那样。 and I'm yearning for that.
我想要像我的孩子一样去体验。 I wanna experience things the way my kids do.
我发现这对健康有很大的好处 And I've discovered there's meaningful health benefits
而不是那样做。 from doing exactly that.
所以我想从别人那里学习秘密 So I wanna learning the secrets from people
他们从未失去过那种孩子气的生活态度。 who have never lost that childlike approach to life.
极端的运动员。 Extreme athletes.
我欣赏的那些不可思议的自由攀岩者， The incredible free climbers I admire,
和我一起工作的顶级特技演员 the top stuntmen I work with,
还有像罗比·麦迪森这样的勇敢伙伴。 and my daredevil mates like Robbie Maddison.
是的,Robbie ! Yes, Robbie!
罗比是我的英雄，也是我孩子们的英雄。 So, Robbie is a hero of mine and a hero to my kids.
他可能是最极端的， He's done probably the most amount of extreme,
令人印象深刻的表演。 impressive stunts.
比这个星球上的任何人 More than anyone on the planet,
而且他似乎乐在其中。 and he seems to have such a blast doing it.
哇! Woo!
那个特技团队怎么样？ How was that stunt team?
-太棒了！-是的。那太恶心了。 - That was so good! - Yeah. That was sick.
我怀念那种无所畏惧的感觉？ I miss this level of like, fearlessness, you know?
你观察孩子们对待事物的方式， You watch the way kids approach things,
这是一种完全无视， and it's a kind of complete disregard for,
为了安全起见，但他们似乎明白了。 for safety and, but they seem to figure it out.
这里有一种韧性。 There's a resilience that's built there.
一些非常自由的东西， Something very freeing, you know,
我们得到的安慰越多， and the more we have comfort,
我们就越不把自己置于可能发生的情况中 the less we put ourselves in situations that might be
稍显威严的。 slightly intimidating.
你可以开始停止思考， You can begin to kind of shut down,
你知道，你做的越来越少。 you know, you just do less and less.
我的意思是，你要怎么做才能再次得到这种感觉？ I mean, what do you do to get that again?
我寻找。 I'm looking.
我在寻找新的东西， I'm on the hunt for something new, for a,
为了一种新的体验。 for a new experience.
我认为最好的体验方式， I think the best way to experience,
我觉得我们的孩子现在正在经历的 I think what our kids are experiencing right now
是要走出舒适区吗 is to step out of the comfort zone of what
你习惯了，尝试一些全新的东西。 you're used to and just try something totally new.
但这其中肯定存在风险因素。 But there has to be an element of risk there.
所以我要做一些激烈的，新鲜的事情。 So I'll do something intense, something new.
我以前从未接触过的东西。 Something I haven't been exposed to before.
100%。 100%.
． .
我的任务是重新找回我的 On my mission to recapture the thrill my
勇敢的孩子从挑战自己的极限中获益， daring kids get from pushing their limits,
我需要接受一些挑战 I need to take on something that challenges
我的思想和我的身体。 both my mind and my body.
它必须是新鲜的、不熟悉的东西。 It needs to be something new and unfamiliar.
而且要有足够的风险来逼我 And it needs to be risky enough to force me
远离我的舒适区。 well outside my comfort zone.
找了几个月之后， After hunting around for a few months,
我发现了这堵大坝墙。 I found this dam wall.
它大约有200米高。 It's about 200 meters high.
它在瑞士， It's in Switzerland,
这看起来极具挑战性， and it looks incredibly challenging,
我要试着自己爬上去 and I'm gonna attempt to climb it on my own,
在隆冬时节。 in the middle of winter.
我不像个攀登者 I'm not built like a climber,
我没有太多攀岩的经验。 I haven't had a whole lot of experience rock climbing.
我并不一定喜欢高 I don't necessarily love heights or the
失败的可能性。 likelihood of failure.
所以，这绝对是一次新的冒险。 So, this definitely feels like a new adventure.
这不仅仅是胆量的问题。 This isn't just about the dare.
现在有了关于奖励的新兴科学 Now there's emerging science about the rewards
当我们接受我们宁愿避免的挑战时，我们就会得到。 we get when we take on challenges we'd rather avoid.
我和顶尖的神经学家， So, I'm working with leading neuroscientist,
阿比盖尔·马什教授。 Professor Abigail Marsh.
你觉得这次登山怎么样？ So, how you feeling about the climb?
有很多未知的东西。 There's a lot of unknowns.
我觉得我见过的最高的墙 You know, I think the highest wall that I've
攀岩的高度大概是50米 rock climbed is probably 50 meters,
那感觉真的很高。 and that felt really high.
这是，这很不一样， This is, this is a lot different,
但实际情况却截然不同。 and the conditions are dramatically different to that.
告诉我，你为什么要这么做？ Well, tell me, why is it that you wanna do this?
你知道，我，我看着我的孩子和能力 You know, I, I watch my kids and the ability to
让自己沉浸在一件事情中。 just sort of immerse themselves in that one thing.
是的。 Yeah.
无论是冲浪还是钓鱼， Whether it be surfing or fishing,
或者互相打架， or fighting with each other, you know,
完整的那种喜欢，那一刻才是唯一 the complete kind of like, that moment is the only
存在的东西。 thing that exists.
我觉得我年纪越大， I think the older I've gotten,
我发现自己遇到的情况比以前少了 I've found myself in less situations that have
带给我那种感觉。 brought me that feeling.
我想很多成年人，在看孩子的时候 I think a lot of adults, when they're watching kids
玩和享受生活，觉得有点羡慕 playing and enjoying life, feel a little envious about
他们的兴奋、好奇和喜悦感， their sense of excitement and curiosity and joy,
做这些新鲜刺激的事情， of doing all these new and exciting things,
我想我们很多人都希望这样 and um I think a lot of us wish that
我们可以重来一遍。 we could recapture that.
为什么我们越老， Why is it the older we get,
我们倾向于避免这类活动？ we tend to avoid those type of activities?
比如，新奇、困难的情况…… So like, novel, difficult situations...
是的。 Yeah.
可以用两种不同的方式表达，对吧？ Can be framed two different ways, right?
他们可以被认为是威胁，对吧， They can be framed as a threat, right,
失败的机会， an opportunity for failure,
我觉得我们年纪越大，这就越容易 and I think that's easier the older we get,
但是孩子们思考的方式… but the way that kids think...
-是的。-这是一个挑战。 - Yeah. - Is it's a challenge.
就像我以前没做过一样… It's like I haven't done this before...
-是的。-看看我能做什么。 - Yeah. - Let's see what I can do.
是的。 Yeah.
我认为这就是过渡所涉及的问题 I think that is what is involved in the transition
从童年到成年， from childhood to adulthood,
增加你的能力。 increasing what you're capable of.
正确的。 Right.
以及你如何能够独立。 And how you're able to be independent.
所以，孩子们的大脑促使他们这样做。 So, kids' brains are pushing them to do that.
是的,当然。 Yeah, absolutely.
孩子们有动力去寻找新的风险 Kids are motivated to seek out new risks and
挑战是因为他们的大脑更 challenges because their brains are more
对多巴胺很敏感，这种化学物质 sensitive to dopamine, which is a chemical that
激励我们去尝试新鲜事物， motivates us to try novel,
刺激，甚至是冒险的事情。 exciting, and even risky things.
看看孩子的大脑，你会 Look inside a kid's brain and you'll
多巴胺系统超速运转， see a dopamine system in overdrive,
激发好奇心和探索的动力。 sparking curiosity and a drive to explore.
但随着年龄的增长，多巴胺敏感性 But as we age, that dopamine sensitivity
每十年下降10%。 drops by about 10% per decade.
例外似乎是极限运动员 The exception seems to be the extreme athletes who
享受高风险活动。 enjoy high-risk activities.
研究表明，他们有一个更活跃的 Research suggests they have a more active
多巴胺系统与其他成年人相比。 dopamine system compared to other adults.
对我们来说，好消息是， The good news for the rest of us,
解决棘手的挑战可以激发多巴胺反应， tackling tough challenges can spark that dopamine response,
带着我们小时候的兴奋， bringing back the thrill we felt as kids,
哪种能促进我们的心理健康 which can boost our psychological health
和幸福。 and wellbeing.
更大的幸福感与减少的 Greater wellbeing is associated with a reduced
患慢性病的风险，更好的免疫功能， risk of chronic disease, better immune functioning,
甚至更长的寿命，一项研究表明 and even longer lifespan, with one study suggesting
增加的幸福感可能会增加 that increased wellbeing may increase
寿命延长10年。 lifespan by up to 10 years.
那么，如果生活的秘诀之一 So, what if one of the secrets to living
现在表现得更年轻好吗？ better now is acting younger?
表现年轻的关键在于大胆 And the key to acting younger is daring
让自己超越极限。 to push ourselves beyond our limits.
我觉得我低估了这个人。 I feel like I underestimated this one.
我很高兴是你而不是我。 I'm glad it's you and not me.
如果我看着它，我会想， If I'm looking at it, I'm like,
“我不知道我能不能做到。” "I don't know if I, I could do that."
我相信你会想明白的。 Oh, I'm sure you'd figure it out.
艾比不是我唯一找的人 Abi's not the only person I've enlisted
为了这个挑战。 for this challenge.
既然罗比对我如此有启发， Seeing as Robbie is such an inspiration to me,
我把他拉过来给我指路 I've roped him along for guidance,
在技术和安全方面， and for technical and safety advice,
我有珀西·比什顿，世界顶尖的 I've got Percy Bishton, one of the world's leading
墙登山者。 wall climbers.
所以，这是最长的人工攀登 So, this climb's the longest artificial
攀登世界。 climb in the world.
好。 Good.
所以要花2到4个小时 So yeah, it takes between two and four hours for
一对有能力的攀登者可以做到这一点。 a competent pair of climbers to do this.
那是在夏天。 That's in the summer.
显然，现在是二月。 Obviously, it's February.
我们在瑞士阿尔卑斯山 We're in the Swiss Alps,
而且很冷。 and it's cold.
有雪和冰。 There's snow and ice.
是的。 Yeah.
所以你需要保持移动。 And so you need to be able to keep moving.
是的。 Yeah.
你的另一个独特之处是 The other thing which is unique for you is that
你不能和任何人一起爬。 you're not climbing with anyone.
你要靠自己爬上去。 You're gonna climb on your own.
你觉得怎么样？ How do you feel about it?
我很清楚这有多难， I'm well aware of, um, the difficulties of it,
我很清楚，你知道， uh, well aware that the, you know,
高度和恐惧可能会进入， the height and the fear may come into,
进入这个场景。 into this scenario.
我认为挑战将会是…… I think the challenge is gonna be...
克服你的恐惧。 Getting on top of your fear.
是的。 Yeah.
而且，事实是 And, and the fact that it's
一个非常吓人的环境。 a very intimidating environment.
我们，呃？ Shall we, uh?
哦,哇! Oh wow!
看看，看看， Check it out, see how, see how,
看看要多久才能着陆。 see how long it's gonna take to land.
呃! ! Urgh!
我不知道为什么它让我觉得恶心！ I don't know why it makes me feel sick!
它来了。 Here it comes.
哇。 Wow.
对了，我能戴降落伞吗？ Oh, yeah, can I wear a parachute?
不，去吧，给自己找块。 No, go on, grab yourself a block.
炸弹。 Bombs away.
Hurgh ! Hurgh!
哦! Oh!
感觉很奇怪。 That feels weird.
现在我脑子里想了很多事情。 A lot of things are going through my head at this point.
有大量的不适。 There's a huge amount of discomfort.
这是我第一次感到恐惧， It, it's the first time I'm feeling some fear,
我想。 I suppose.
哦，爆炸。 Oh, the explosion.
我知道我在这里站得越久 Uh, I know that the longer I stand here and
看看这个，考虑一下它的所有方式 look at this and consider all the ways of how it
可能会出错，我要，你知道， can go wrong, I'm gonna, you know,
说服自己不要这么做。 talk myself out of it.
我想得太多了。 I'm thinking about it too much.
我们走吧。 Let's just get going.
当然，在一个层面上， On one level, of course,
带上适当的安全装备攀登 climbing with appropriate safety equipment and
手术其实并不危险， procedures is not actually dangerous,
但我认为这一点都不可信 but I don't think it's remotely plausible that
任何人在危急情况下都不会感到害怕 anybody wouldn't feel terrified in a situation
在这么陡又这么直的墙上。 on a wall that steep and that vertical.
但如果我们想获得健康益处 But if we wanna reap the health benefits
尝试新事物和挑战， of trying something new and challenging,
我们不能让焦虑或恐惧阻碍我们。 we can't let anxiety or fear get in the way.
所以，我得到了我的老朋友的帮助 So, I've enlisted the help of my long-time
特技替身兼好伙伴，鲍比·汉顿。 stunt double and good mate, Bobby Hanton.
炫耀。 Show off.
鲍比是前体操运动员，前跳水运动员， Bobby is an ex-gymnast, uh, and ex-diver,
现在是世界上最好的特技演员之一。 and now is one of the best stuntmen in the world.
鲍比教我在电影里做一些疯狂的特技， Bobby has taught me to do some really crazy stunts in movies,
但真正疯狂的是…… but the really, really crazy stuff...
我让鲍比接手了。 I let Bobby take over.
当鲍比面对疯狂的表演时， And when Bobby's confronted with a crazy stunt,
他就像个大孩子。 he's like a big kid.
干得好，鲍比！ Nice one, Bobby!
我们在这里做什么？ What are we doing here?
我带着面具和呼吸管，还有脚蹼， I got my mask and snorkel, and my flippers,
还有我的浮动。 and my floaties.
-你不需要这些。-不需要这些，不是吗？ - You don't need any of that. - Don't need any of that, no?
今天的目的是攀岩 The purpose of today is some rock climbing
训练和一些高空接触。 training and some exposure to heights.
一开始，鲍比带我去 To start with, Bobby takes me up to the
在10米或30英尺的高度， very top board at 10 meters, or 30 feet,
来衡量我的反应。 to gauge my reaction.
我不会说我恐高， I wouldn't say I'm scared of heights,
但我也不会说我爱他们。 but I wouldn't say I love them either.
有趣的是，当我还是个孩子的时候， But interesting enough, you know, when I was a kid,
我会在那上面翻筋斗。 I would do somersaults off that thing.
呃! ! Urgh!
在成年人的大脑中，有一个完全发育的 In adults' brains, there's a fully developed
这个区域叫做前额皮质， region called the prefrontal cortex,
这是大脑的一部分 and that is the part of the brain that is engaged in
担心后果。 worrying about consequences.
但孩子们的大脑构造完全不同 But kids' brains are built pretty differently
比成年人的大脑更重要。 than adult brains.
青少年有更多寻求刺激的行为 Adolescents do a lot more thrill-seeking behaviors
因为他们的前额皮质 than adults do because their prefrontal cortex
尚未完全发展。 has not yet fully developed.
来吧，孩子。 Come on, boy.
好。 Good.
好消息是，即使是成年人也能学会 The nice thing is, even adults can learn to
调节前额叶区域的活动 regulate the activity in those prefrontal regions
帮助他们重新夺回一些 to help them try to recapture some of the
孩子们的乐趣。 fun that kids have.
我们好吗? We good?
是的,鲍比。 Yeah, Bobby.
对你又好又紧。 Nice and tight to you.
我觉得这是个不错的切入点。 Looked like a good entry to me.
我没看到水花飞溅。 I didn't see a splash.
所以，我需要努力回到 So, I need to work my way back up to
分阶段的顶部板。 the top board in stages.
这绝不是最疯狂的特技表演。 It's not by any means the most crazy stunt thing to do.
我们已经建立了每个平台， We've done, we've built up from each platform now,
重复就在那里。 and you're, the repetition's there.
你很清楚自己在做什么。 You know exactly what you're doing.
保持身体紧绷，手臂紧绷，腿紧绷。 Keep nice and tight, arms tight, legs tight.
我在那里感觉怪怪的。 I feel weird there.
我只是想多了， I'm just overthinking it, you know,
我在考虑所有糟糕的情况 and I'm considering all the bad scenarios and,
这甚至不是一个危险的环境。 and it's not even a dangerous environment.
减少你的反应的唯一方法是 The only way to reduce your response is
要真正置身其中， to actually be in the situation,
从经验中学习，你可以处理它， learn through experience that you can handle it,
结果还好， that it actually turned out okay,
然后这种遗忘将会延续下去 and that unlearning will then carry forward
下次你遇到类似的危险情况时。 the next time you're in a similar risky situation.
然后，当我完成后，感觉很酷。 Then, once I've done it, it was like, cool.
我确实从中得到了真正的刺激。 I do get a real thrill from it.
但两者之间有天壤之别 But there's a world of difference between
跳板…… a diving board...
．．．以及近200米540英尺的城墙。 ...And a nearly 200-meter, 540-foot wall.
从这里看也没那么糟。 It doesn't look that bad from here.
是的，是的。 It does, it does.
它看起来是平直的 It looks, it tends to be flush on,
但如果你能把它分解， but if you can break it down,
你可以看到一个五节的爬升。 you can see a five-pitch climb.
是的。 Yeah.
它比看起来要大得多。 It's a lot bigger than it looks.
不，它看起来很大，别担心。 No, it looks big, don't worry.
我开始剖析这个问题了 I'm beginning to dissect the problem and
挑战和尝试， the challenge and attempting to,
为了计算这是否有可能， to compute whether this is even possible in any way,
形状，形状 shape, or form.
啊，给你，你可以看到。 Ah, here you go, you can see.
如果你看过去，伙计，你可能会看到 If you look through, mate, you'll probably see
有一个金属网格，这就是顶部 there's a metal grid, so that's what the top of
每个音高看起来像。 each pitch looks like.
是的。 Yeah.
所以当你到达球场的顶端时， So when you get to the top of a pitch,
通常那里有一个很好的抓地力， normally there's a good hold there,
你可以站在窗台上。 you can stand on the ledge.
你可以先喘口气。 You can just take a minute to breathe.
是的。 Yep.
集中精力，然后开始下一个投球。 Get, get centered and then start on the next pitch.
尽量让你的手臂喘口气， Try and give your arms as much of a breather as you can,
因为当你到达顶峰时 'cause when you get to the top,
你会需要它们的。 you'll need them.
好的,很酷。 Okay, cool.
前两次投球， The first two pitches,
你可以开始攀岩了。 you can get into the climbing.
你会发现，当太阳照到墙上时， What you'll find is that as the sun comes onto the wall,
上面比较暖和。 it's warmer at the top.
是的。 Yeah.
它只是在底部保持低温。 And it just stays cold at the bottom.
冷空气停留在这里，洞口有点， The cold air sits here, and the holds are kind of,
它们超级冷。 they're super cold.
-太冷了，就像我在看一样 - It's incredibly cold, like I'm actually looking
在水坝边我开始发抖 at the dam and I'm starting to shiver,
我在想， you know, and I'm thinking,
我怎么能在那堵墙上待上一两个小时呢？ how am I gonna spend an hour or two on that wall?
下面的部分是热身。 So, the bottom section, that's your warm-up.
中间部分更多的是思考。 The middle part is more thinking about it.
里面会有点孤单的。 It's gonna be a bit lonely in there.
是的。 Yeah.
你知道，在墙中间， You know, in the middle of the wall,
你离地面有80米。 you're 80 meters from the floor.
是的。 Yeah.
你周围没有别的东西了。 There's nothing else around you.
这是一个特殊的环境。 It's a special environment.
这很吓人。 It's quite intimidating.
我在考虑眩晕和 I'm considering how the vertigo and
肾上腺素，恐高症， the adrenaline, the fear of heights,
将发挥作用。 is gonna come into play.
这是一种感官超载。 There's kind of sensory overload.
然后是最后80米。 And then the last 80 meters.
移动。 Move.
这就是它悬在外面的地方。 That's where it's overhanging.
我们称之为关键部分， What we call a crux section,
这是攀登过程中最困难的部分。 the most difficult part of the climb.
那就是你要把它推上顶峰的时候，因为 That's when you're gun it to the top 'cause
你会看到天空。 you'll see the sky.
是的。 Yeah.
大家都在顶层等你呢。 Everyone's waiting for you at the top.
这也会变得更难，对吧？ And that's when it gets harder, too, right?
是的，因为大坝的形状， Yeah, because of the shape of the dam,
在顶部，它是悬垂的。 at the top, it's overhanging.
你想要动起来，因为你只是 You wanna be, be moving then 'cause you're just
我要一气呵成。 gonna do it in one big push.
是的。 Yeah.
没人会这么做的。 Which is not something that anyone ever does.
我担心的是体力透支， I'm worried about the physical exhaustion,
说实话。 to be honest.
我只知道自己爬得有多难 I just know from climbing myself how hard
它在你的手指上，在你的手臂上。 it is on your fingers, on your arms.
一旦他过了一半，就像是， Once he gets past midway, that's like,
它几乎是倒过来的。 that's almost inverted on itself.
从来没人这么做过， No one ever does it like this,
每年的这个时候都没人这么做， and no one ever does it this time of year,
所以这将是艰难的。 so it's gonna be tough.
我很尊重你，伙计。 A lot of respect for you, mate.
这些挑战不是 These kinds of challenges aren't
证明我们能做艰难的事。 about proving we can do something tough.
它们是关于寻找一些我们似乎 They're about finding something we seem to
随着年龄的增长而失去。 lose as we get older.
天真的信念，相信一切皆有可能。 A childlike belief that anything is possible.
为了更接近那个灵魂， To get a little closer to that spirit,
我一直在跟最厉害的一个训练 I've been training with one of the greatest
地球上的极限运动员。 extreme athletes on earth.
斯蒂芬·戴维斯是一位传奇的登山者 Steph Davis is a legendary climber,
定点跳伞者和翼装飞行员。 base jumper, and wingsuit flyer.
她不只是面对不可能； She doesn't just face the impossible;
她去找它。 she goes looking for it.
这里是卡拉萨瑙。 This is Cala Sa Nau.
这里是做 It's kinda like the prime location for
深水解算。 deep water soloing.
深水解算是什么？ What is deep water soloing?
好吧，你没有绳子，独自一人。 Oksy, so you have no rope, soloing.
是的。 Yep.
但你没有掉下来，而是撞到了地上， But instead of you fall, you hit the ground,
最后。 the end.
你落水了。 You hit the water.
你掉下去，就会掉到水里，没错。 You fall, you hit the water, exactly.
会很吓人，很紧张。 It's gonna be scary, it's intense.
这是有风险的， There is some risk associated,
但你可以为此进行训练。 but you can train for it.
你可以玩得很开心。 You can have fun with it.
当我开始攀岩时，这是一个很大的转变。 When I started climbing, it was a really big shift.
我在上大学。 I was in college.
我拿到了硕士学位，然后就有点 I got a Master's degree, and then that was kind of
一个断点，我决定说， a breakpoint where I made the decision to say,
“好吧，我不走学术道路了。” "Okay, I'm stopping the academic path."
所以我离开了，然后进了我的车 So I left and then moved into my car and
成为一名全职登山者。 became a full-time climber.
我想我只是被好奇心吸引住了 I think I was just really drawn by curiosity
而且很兴奋。 and excitement of it.
对我来说，整个世界就是个游乐场 For me, the whole world's a playground and
我从未停止过打球。 I've never stopped playing.
我有一种心态，似乎 There's a mindset that I have that seems to
和其他人不一样。 be different than for many other people.
极限运动员有什么不同呢 What's different about extreme athletes that is
在青春期类似的是他们有这个非常 similar in adolescence is that they have this very
高多巴胺活动，所以他们真的 high dopamine activity, and so they're really
适应了冒险和冒险的回报 attuned to the rewards from doing risky and
挑战性的事情，他们有动力去做 challenging things, and they're motivated to do
他们不顾风险，不是因为他们没有 them despite the risks, not because they're not
意识到风险。 aware of the risks.
好消息是，在这种心态下， The good news is that being in that frame of mind,
这是我们都可以利用的东西。 it's something that we can all tap into.
克里斯的计划是先教他路线 The plan with Chris is to first teach him the route,
绳索。 with ropes.
这是他下去的机会 This is an opportunity for him to go down and
看看他要爬的路。 see the route he's gonna have to climb.
然后我们把安全装置拿走。 Then we take away the safety gear.
而是用同样的方式帮助他攀登 It's about helping him climb with the same
孩子们拥有的自由和灵活性。 freedom and flexibility that kids have.
因为阻碍大多数人的东西 Because the thing that gets in most people's way
这不是他们的技术。 isn't their technique.
这是他们头脑中的风暴。 It's the storm inside their head.
所以，我们在这里的原因是… So, the reason we're here...
是的。 Yeah.
是为您体验出发路线。 Is for you to experience the start of the route.
是的。 Yeah.
你要做的就是爬下去 What you're gonna have to do is actually climb off
船触礁了。 the boat onto the rock.
是的，在这里，好的。 Yeah, onto here, okay.
如果你看看绳子现在的方向。 If you look where your rope is going right now.
对，就是这样，对吧？ Yeah, that's it, eh?
这是一个巨大的休息。 That's that huge rest.
是的。在这里。 Yeah. Right there.
所以你很快就能实现免提了。 So you don't have far to go before you can go hands-free.
好吧。 Okay.
就几个动作。 Just a few moves.
是啊，很滑，不是吗？ Yeah, it's slippery, innit?
啊! Ah!
那么滑。 So slippery.
很紧张，不是吗？ It's intense, innit?
是啊! Yeah!
攀岩不仅考验你的身体，也考验你的情绪。 Climbing tests your emotions as much as your body.
那些能出人头地的人 The ones who make it to the top
并不总是最强的。 aren't always the strongest.
他们是能够成功翻转 They're the ones who can successfully flip the
他们脑子里有剧本。 script in their head.
有时候当事情有风险时， Sometimes when something's risky,
我可能会说， I might just say,
“哦，这太复杂了。” "Oh, that's complicated."
如果我想说什么是不可能的 If I wanna say something's impossible,
我可能会说，“我还在努力。” I might just say, "I'm still working on that."
有时候当我害怕的时候，我就说， Sometimes when I'm scared, I just say,
“这是令人兴奋的。” "That's exciting."
这不是要隐藏你的情绪， It's not about hiding your emotions,
而是要把他们变成某种东西 it's about turning them into something
这会推动你前进。 that moves you forward.
有些人觉得骄傲，沮丧， Some people find that pride, frustration,
即使是愤怒，也可以化作燃料 even anger, can be turned into the fuel
这是他们需要的。 that they need.
这是…的关键。 This is the crux of the...
是的。 Yeah.
爬吧，因为你会是这里最累的。 Climb, because you're gonna be the most tired here.
最困难的时候是你最累的时候。 The, the hardest part's when you're the most tired.
太棒了。 Awesome.
-对，对！——是的! - Yeah, yeah! - Yeah!
你是否发现每次完成后都是这样 Do you find that each time you complete
这是一个巨大的挑战， something that is hugely challenging,
有情感，精神，身体的成长？ there's emotional, spiritual, physical growth?
我相信任何时候你接受一个巨大的挑战， I believe that any time you take on a big challenge,
你要振作起来。 you rise to the occasion.
你会对自己有所了解 You learn a little something about yourself
你以前不知道的，是的。 that you didn't know before, yeah.
这会改变你。 That changes you.
这会给你信心。 That gives you confidence.
它会改变你的生活方式。 Um, it kind of changes how you go through life.
是啊，这让我每天都有压力 Yeah, it makes the, uh, day-to-day stresses
可能没那么吓人，对吧？ probably not so, uh, intimidating, right?
我认为这是一种观点，“那是我做的。” I think it's perspective, "I did that."
是的。 Yeah.
如果有别的事情发生，我也能做到。 Something else comes along, I can do that.
-嗯嗯。-我以前做过。 - Mm-hm. - I did it before.
感觉很好。 Feels good.
我们每天面对的大部分压力 Most of the stresses that we face day to day
不是生与死 are not life or death.
比如邮件和错过的截止日期， They're things like emails and missed deadlines,
但在那一刻，他们会感到不知所措。 but they can feel overwhelming in the moment.
但问题是。 But here's the thing.
当我们面对挑战时，随着时间的推移， When we expose ourself to challenges, over time,
这有点像心理疫苗。 it works a little bit like a psychological vaccine.
它让我们更有弹性， It makes us more resilient,
它使我们更有能力处理 it makes us more capable at handling
未来的挑战，因此， future challenges, and as a result,
你不会为每天的小事而烦恼 you don't sweat the small stuff in daily
生活也一样。 life quite as much.
解锁这些好处的关键 The key to unlocking these benefits
对于我们所有人来说似乎都在寻找边缘 for all of us seems to be finding the edge of
我们的舒适区。 our comfort zone.
你感觉怎么样？ How do you feel?
不，在这一点上， No, it's, at this point,
我只是想把我们讨论过的事情分解一下， I'm just trying to break down everything we discussed,
我在哪个部门做什么。 what section I do what in.
完全正确。 Exactly.
这种影响是…… Where the sort of reach is...
是的。 Yeah.
最难的部分在哪里。 Where the hardest part is.
如果你感觉到了，如果你有信心， If you feel it, if you're confident,
如果是这样，就去做吧。 if this is it, just do it.
是的。酷。 Yeah. Cool.
是啊!在上面玩得开心，好吗？ Yeah! Have fun up there, okay?
我认为对克里斯来说，身体技能是必需的 I think for Chris, the physical skill needed
是一定的数量，然后是 is a certain amount, and then there's the
心理的一面。 psychological side.
哦! Oh!
那种潜在失败的感觉， That feeling of potential failure,
一定是这件坏事吗？ does it have to be this bad thing?
不，可能有很多原因。 No, it could be a lot of things.
有时就像一团小火 Sometimes it's kind of like a little fire that
给你推力。 gives you the push.
Oof-oof ! Oof-oof!
怎么样？很好。 How was that? It was good.
好工作。 Good job.
所以，我们做得越多， So, the more we're doing,
我们爬得越多 the more we're climbing,
还有就是，你知道， and the thing that, you know,
我有一些紧张的情绪， I had some sort of nervous energy about,
在这一点上是完全好玩的，充满了快乐。 is completely playful and full of joy at this point.
我很喜欢。 And I'm loving it.
对我来说，攀岩这样的体能挑战 For me, physical challenges like climbing
邀请你即兴发挥，全身心投入 invite you to improvise, to be fully present and
重新找回孩子般的生活方式。 to reconnect to a childlike way of being.
好了!很棒的工作。 Nice! Awesome job.
太完美了，太美了。 That was perfect, that was beautiful.
啊,谢谢。 Ah, thanks.
你要找的东西是 So, the thing you're kinda looking for is
孩子们骑自行车的乐趣。 that real fun that your kids have on the bike.
你感觉到了吗？ Did you feel that?
是的,当然。 Yeah, absolutely.
因为一旦你没有绳子 'Cause actually, once you don't have the rope there,
这样更容易集中注意力。 it's much easier to focus.
是的。 Yeah.
我们作为孩子，我们不，我们不考虑 Us as kids, we don't, we're not thinking about
所有其他的事情，我们都更关注当下 all those other things, we're far more present
我在自己的孩子身上也看到了这一点， and, and I see that with my own kids, you know,
他们只是活在当下，他们做事。 they're just in the moment, they do things.
是的。 Yeah.
有时候这有点冒险， And sometimes it's a little risky,
但大多数时候， but most of the time they're,
他们在上面，他们的本能在控制。 they're on it and their instincts are in control.
-你是个成年人了。-是的。 - You're an adult. - Yeah.
你不能把所有的东西都扔掉…… You can't get rid of all the stuff...
-是的。-是这样的。 - Yeah. - That's going on.
但你可以处理好这些事情，你也做到了， But you can manage all that stuff, which you did,
一旦所有的事情都处理好了…… and then once all that stuff gets managed...
是的。现在你可以开心了。 Yeah. Now you can have fun.
我开始有一种不同的 I'm starting to have a different sort of
热情而为，而欣赏而为 enthusiasm and, and appreciation for the
攀爬经验。 climbing experience.
这是件好事，因为这个大坝墙 Which is a good thing, because this dam wall
可能是我尝试过的最艰难的挑战。 might be the hardest challenge I've ever attempted.
面对如此艰难的挑战，显然训练很重要， With a challenge this tough, obviously training matters,
但有时在这种紧张的情况下， but sometimes in these intense situations,
人们可以挖掘到一些额外的、特别的东西， people can tap into something extra and special,
这就是所谓的流动状态。 which is something called a flow state.
心流状态的一大乐趣在于 One of the things that's so enjoyable about a flow state
你是否完全专注于此 is that you are focusing completely on
你现在正在做什么。 what you are doing in the moment.
心流有很多相似之处 Flow has a lot of similarities to
孩子般的心态。 a childlike state of mind.
你只是专注于手头的任务。 You're just focusing on the task at hand.
研究人员认为，在心流状态下， Researchers believe that during flow state,
涉及到大脑的前额叶区域 prefrontal regions of the brain involved
在过度思考中减少不活动。 in overthinking reduce inactivity.
与此同时，多巴胺充斥大脑， At the same time, dopamine floods the brain,
给我们一种深刻的驱动力， giving us a profound sense of drive,
提高我们的注意力。 and boosting our focus.
当这些变化同时发生时， When these changes happen together,
我们完全沉浸在当下， we become fully absorbed in the moment,
就像孩子一样。 much like the way kids are.
这可以让我们释放我们的最佳表现。 And this can allow us to unlock our peak performance.
当我第一次看到大坝的时候， When I first saw the dam wall,
我以为他会在这里体验心流。 I thought he's gonna experience flow here.
对我来说，心流状态都来自于这些 For me, flow state all comes from these
具有挑战性的情况。 challenging situations.
时间真的开始停滞了。 Time really starts to stand still.
在那一刻有无限的事情可能发生。 There's infinite things that can happen in that moment.
它似乎会永远持续下去。 It just seems to last forever.
心流状态一直吸引着我。 Flow state has always intrigued me.
它似乎赋予了超人的能力 The way it seems to give superhuman abilities
像罗比这样的极限运动员 to extreme athletes like Robbie,
这是一个活跃的科学研究领域。 and it's an active area of scientific research.
好了，准备好去见西风星系了吗？ Alright, you ready to meet the Zephyr system?
-西风系统？-西风系统。 - The Zephyr system? - The Zephyr system.
好吧。 Alright.
这能让我们在攀爬过程中观察你的内脏。 This is gonna let us spy on your innards during the climb.
——酷。-不，抱歉，在这里。 - Cool. - No, sorry, on here.
在攀登之前， Before the climb,
艾比在给我装传感器。 Abi is rigging me up with sensors.
如果我进入心流状态，这项尖端技术可能会告诉我 This cutting-edge tech may reveal if I enter flow state
当我在大坝上的时候。 when I'm on the dam.
放那儿，或者放回去…… Put it there, or back...
应该就在这里，对。 It should be like about right there, yeah.
好的,很酷。 Okay, cool.
因此，西风系统可以捕捉到两种心率 So, the Zephyr system can capture both heart rate
还有心率变异性。 and heart rate variability.
我们可以看到它们都是高或 We can see that both of them are high or
它们都是并行增长的。 both of them are increasing in parallel.
这是一个很好的指标 That's a pretty good index that a person might
保持心流状态。 be in a flow state.
伙计，这是最后的遗言。 Well, mate, it's final last words.
你能行的。 You got this.
是啊，我现在很兴奋，因为 Yeah, I'm excited to get into it now because
你讨论得越多， it's sort of, the more you discuss it,
它开始成为你试图避免的事情， it starts to become the thing you're trying to avoid,
这就是过度思考， which is that overthinking,
脑子里有很多杂音， lot of chatter in the mind, you know,
一想又一想。 the sort of thought after thought.
是的。 Yeah.
现在我只想沉浸在这种体验中， And now I just wanna be immersed in the experience,
进入心流状态。 get into that flow state.
你知道，不要太紧张。 Don't stress on it, you know.
就像，放下那些想法， Like, just let go of the thoughts,
情感的， of the emotions,
对自己的感觉保持平和。 of the feelings and just be at peace with it.
-没错。-去拿来，兄弟。 - That's right. - Go and get it, brother.
-高处见。-我为你感到兴奋。 - See you at the top. - I'm excited for you.
接近大坝时， Approaching the dam,
我很清楚我面临的是什么。 I'm acutely aware of what is facing me.
寒冷的天气…… The freezing conditions...
好吧。 Alright.
．．．如果我不能控制自己的思想，我会感到恐惧， ...The fear I could feel if I don't control my thoughts,
还有生理需求。 and the physical demands.
我能看到把手和路径 I can see the handholds and the path in which
我得爬上去。 I'm gonna have to climb.
我感觉我被这个巨大的， And I feel like I'm being swallowed by this huge,
巨大的混凝土……实体。 giant concrete... entity.
我们在山顶见。 And we'll see you at the top.
成功见，伙计。 See you at the top, mate.
我非常想摆脱我自己 I desperately want to get out the way of myself and
只是为了体验。 just into the experience.
就像孩子们一样。 The same way that the children do.
当我开始攀登时，我的两个最好的伙伴， As I start the climb, my two best mates,
佐基和亚伦出现了， Zocchi and Aaron turn up,
提供一点额外的精神支持。 to offer a little extra moral support.
艾比，你觉得他会去哪里？ Abi, where do you think he's gonna get to?
-我觉得他会这么做的-他会这么做吗？ - I think he's gonna do it. - He's gonna do it?
Zoc ? Okay, Zoc?
他会这么做的。 He's gonna do it.
我不应该怀疑我的儿子。 I shouldn't doubt my boy.
我真希望他会这么做，但我觉得他会的 I hope to God he does it, but I reckon he's gonna
到达这个角的起点。 get to the start of the angle.
前两三个坚持， The first two or three holds,
我马上就想，“这些东西太冷了，” immediately I go, "These things are freezing,"
我的手指变得僵硬了。 and my fingers are becoming stiff.
就像爬上一块块的冰。 It's like climbing up blocks of ice.
我必须找到一个可以， I'm having to find holds that allow, you know,
我的手像这样握紧杯子。 my hands to cup like this.
我感觉自己就像一只小海豹想要爬上来。 I feel like a, a baby seal trying to claw my way up.
． .
我的手指完全没有知觉了。 I literally cannot feel my fingers.
我就对自己说“继续前进” I just say to myself, "Just keep moving."
有人告诉我，当我 I've been told that when I get
向墙的阳面走去， to the sunny section of the wall,
这完全不同， it's dramatically different,
这就是我的第一个主要目标。 so that becomes my first major goal.
我只是在看克里斯攀登这些巨大的山峰 I'm just seeing Chris take these huge climbs
用他的腿。 with his legs.
看起来像一只大猩猩爬上了这棵树， It looks like a gorilla going up this tree,
当他往上爬的时候，我就想，伙计， and as he's going up, I'm just like, man,
他开得太快了。 he's going too fast.
啊! Ugh!.
他当时说了一句脏话。 He said a naughty word then.
Aye-aye-aye。 Aye-aye-aye.
调皮的话可以减轻痛苦。 Naughty words reduce pain.
． .
如果我们有脏话罐 If we had a swear jar,
到最后我就会成为百万富翁了。 I'd be a millionaire by the end of this.
我气喘吁吁。 I'm huffing and puffing.
我离成功还差得远呢。 I'm nowhere near the top.
终于走到墙上那块阳光明媚的地方。 Finally get to that sunny patch of the wall.
克里斯，这是 一个好地方，只是 Chris this is a good place to just
休息一下，伙计 take a breather, mate.
你只是想 站在窗台上。 You just wanna stand on the ledge.
是的。 Yeah.
坐回你的 挽具，如果你想。 Sit back in your harness, if you want.
把你的胳膊抖出来， 让一点血回流 Shake your arms out, get a bit of blood back.
是的。 Yeah.
你还好吧，伙计？ 你感觉怎么样？ You okay, mate? How you feeling?
啊，是的，很好。 Ah, yeah, good.
双臂张开。 Arms are pumped.
好吧，伙计，不要休息太久，那么。 Okay, mate, don't rest for too long, then.
你，如果你想要 ，你就去吧，伙计。 You, if you wanna get going, you just go, mate.
是啊，我拿不定主意。 Yeah, I'm in two minds.
我不想休息太久， I'm like, I don't wanna rest too long,
但我也，嗯，我的手指，呃… but I'm also, uh, yeah, my fingers are, uh...
感觉像是被卡车碾过， feel like they've been run over by a truck,
好几次了。 several times.
我现在在60米或200英尺的地方， I'm now at 60 meters, or 200 feet,
开始了一个更棘手的阶段 and beginning a much trickier stage of the
我必须以一定角度爬升。 climb where I have to ascend at an angle.
走了。啊,好吧。 Go. Ah, Okay.
所以我又开始了 So I take off again in somewhat of
冲刺的前提是， a sprint with the assumption that, um,
我要以创纪录的时间赶到那里。 I'm gonna get there in record time.
啊!。 Ah!.
然后我达到了一半。 And then I hit maybe the halfway mark.
我低头一看，马上就明白了 I look down, and I immediately get that
一波又一波的恐怖。 wave of like, terror.
它让你想吐。 It makes you wanna throw up.
哦!。 Oh!.
有一个失控的声音，有一个 There is a out of control voice that has a
扭曲的想象力，我不断听到我的 twisted imagination and I keep hearing my
挽具松开了。 harness come undone.
我一直在检查我的脊甲，有一次， I keep checking my harness, and at one point,
我伸出手，把它拉紧， I reach down and I'm tightening it,
然后我立刻想到， and then I immediately thought,
“如果我把它松开呢？” "What if I just loosened it?"
我抬头看着绳子，我想， And I'm looking up at the rope and I'm like,
“如果它断了怎么办？” "What if it snaps?"
我回想起我和鲍比一起接受的所有训练， I think back to all the training I've done with Bobby,
我的替身，我知道我可以克服恐惧， my stunt double and I know I can overcome my fear,
我的过度思考，如果我缩小我的注意力。 my overthinking, if I narrow my focus.
一次走一步，一次抓一个。 One step at a time, one hold at a time.
． .
然后我又开始往上爬 And I begin to climb again and
然后突然之间， then all of a sudden,
真正美丽的事情正在发生。 something really beautiful is occurring.
我开始注意到，当我想， I begin to notice, in moments when I'm like,
我不可能做到的… there's no way I can do this...
我深吸一口气，然后就到了。 I take a deep breath and then I'm there.
我又长了10英尺左右，甚至都没有 I've gained another 10 or so feet without even being
意识到这一点。 consciously aware of it.
这是一种真正的思想融合 There is a real integration of thoughts
和情绪。 and emotions.
就像发生了一些和谐的事情。 Like there's something harmonious occurring.
你知道准备工作， You know the preparation,
你知道技巧，然后一切都是问题 you know the technique and then it's all a matter
让你的潜意识和肌肉记忆 of allowing the subconscious and your muscle memory
接手，然后表演一下， take over and just kind of perform,
这就是流态发生的时候。 and that's really when flow state happens.
我感觉精力充沛。 I'm feeling invigorated.
我抬起头，心想：“好吧，我能做到，” I'm looking up, thinking, "Okay, I can do this,"
然后砰的一声，就被… and then bam, that's interrupted by...
来吧。 Come on.
．．．纯粹的疲惫。 ...Pure exhaustion.
我正在接近关键 I'm approaching the crux,
墙开始伸出来的地方…… where the wall starts to overhang...
．．．我的身体也开始不行了。 ...And my body is starting to fail me.
我从来没觉得这么累过 I don't think I've ever felt this exhausted
现在我意识到我不应该那样做 and I'm now realizing that I should have not been so
奋力冲向终点线。 aggressively racing to the finish line.
我觉得你得把我拉起来，我的胳膊。 I think you're gonna have to pull me up, my arms are.
一切都很拥挤。 Everything's cramped up.
Aye-ah ! Aye-ah!
现在疑问来了。 Now the doubt is coming in.
这种怀疑对整个身体的影响很有趣。 And it's funny what that doubt does to the entire body.
啊! Ah!
，，． ,,.
啊! Ahh!
刚爬到最困难的地方。 Argh, just gotten to the hardest point of the climb.
我已经准备好结束这一切了。 I'm ready to be done with this.
他现在快要崩溃了。 He's at breaking point now.
我在想"我们去救他吧， I'm thinking, "Let's just rescue him,
我们把他拉上来吧。” let's just pull him up."
啊!。 Ah!.
啊! Ah!
我在马略卡岛和库里一起训练时就知道了 I know from my training with Steph in Mallorca
有一种方法可以重塑我们的感受…… that there's a way we can reframe what we're feeling...
啊! Ah!
．．．为了推动我们前进， ...To drive ourselves forward,
那一刻我发现… and what I find in that moment...
是盲目的愤怒。 is blind rage.
好了，现在还不能退出。 Alright, there's no quit at this point.
那个，那个讨论结束了。 That, that discussion's finished.
我才不管怎么把指甲扯下来 I don't care how I tear my fingernails off
在这个过程中。 in the process.
如果有必要，我会咬断这些支架。 I'll bite these holds if I have to.
我快到了。 I'm getting there.
快点，现在！ Come on, now!
听起来他对那堵墙很生气， It sounds like he's really mad at the wall,
好像他不想被墙打到似的。 like he doesn't want the wall to beat him.
啊呀! Aargh!
有一些有趣的青少年现象 There is something interestingly adolescent
当你无法达到目标时，你会非常生气。 about getting really mad when you can't reach your goal.
啊呀! Aargh!
这是非常有益的。 And there's something really beneficial about that.
啊呀! Aargh!
愤怒实际上会带来额外的体力。 Rage actually brings out extra physical strength.
啊呀! Aargh!
就是这个。就是这个。 There it is. There it is.
快到了，伙计。 Almost there, mate.
我们走吧。 Let's go.
啊呀! Aargh!
来吧，哼哼！ Come on Hem!
是的! Yes!
上去！ Get up there!
是啊!来吧!伴侣!是啊! Yeah! Come on! Mate! Yeah!
啊呀! Aargh!
你做到了！是啊!哇! You've done it! Yeah! Woo!
哇!哇! Woo! Woo!
上来吧，伙计。 Come on up, mate.
就是这个。 There it is.
干得好，再来一次。 Well done, go do it again.
我对什么东西上瘾了吗？ Am I hooked on something?
啊!我的天啊！ Ah! Oh my God!
哦!啊! Oh! Ah!
． .
这么说也不为过 It would be an understatement to say
我为克里斯感到骄傲。 I'm proud of Chris.
他这么做让我很兴奋。 I'm like, so stoked that he did this.
-天啊。-太鼓舞人心了。 - Oh man. - So inspiring.
我觉得这是我做过的最艰难的事。 I think that's the hardest thing I've ever done.
太恶心了。 That was disgusting.
哦!啊! Oh! Ah!
我几乎瘫倒在地，但是 I pretty much collapsed into a heap but
我立刻感受到那种喜悦， I immediately feel that elation,
那种成就感。 that sense of accomplishment.
这是一种努力。 That was an effort.
那是一种纯粹的快乐。 And it's pure joy at that point.
我被他刚刚取得的成就惊呆了。 I am blown away by what he just accomplished.
有些时候我想， There were points where I was like,
“噢，我下一个抓地力抬不起来了。” "Oh, I cannot lift myself on this next hold."
是的。 Yeah.
然后安静下来，深呼吸， And then quiet, take a breath,
然后我就在三米之外了 and then I'd be three meters beyond where
我以为是，然后说，“哦，刚刚发生了什么？” I thought it was and go, "Oh, what just happened?"
-是的。-你知道吗？ - Yeah. - You know?
只要看事物开关的速度就知道了。 Just by how quickly things would switch on and off.
是的。 Yeah.
看看心率数据， Looking at the heart rate data,
我们可以清楚地看到心率变异性的增加， we can clearly see an increase on heart rate variability,
除了心率升高， as well as that elevated heart rate,
这与流动状态一致。 which is consistent with a flow state.
你可以看到这五个音调。 You can see those five pitches.
毫米。 Mm.
你可以看到它在… You can see it go down at...
是的。 Yeah.
这四个休息点，但真正酷的是， Each of those four rest spots, but what's really cool is after,
就在你开始第三投的时候， right when you're starting the third pitch,
你的心率变异性在上升。 your heart rate variability is going up.
这更符合流动状态， That is consistent with more of a flow state,
至少，作为一个观察者， and at least, as an observer,
看起来你真的很有节奏。 it looked like you were really in a rhythm there.
这很有趣，不是说，哇！ And it's funny, it's not like, wow!
我有二三十分钟处于心流状态。 I've, for 20, 30 minutes, I was in flow.
你真的是身经百战， You really are in and out of it,
就像你说的。 like you were saying.
就像有这样的讨论 It's like there's that discussion
下一分钟， and the next minute,
你知道吗，你的处境更糟了。 you know, you're further up the wall.
这有点疯狂。 It's kind of wild.
是啊，太棒了。哦! Yeah, that was amazing. Oh!
我们坐得越久， The more sedentary we've become,
我们拥有的选择越多，我们就不会被迫， the more choice we have, we're not forced to,
你知道，挑战我们自己。 you know, challenge ourselves as much.
那是…… That was...
突破你的极限，寻求新的挑战 Pushing your limits and seeking out new challenges
有时感觉不舒服…… sometimes feels uncomfortable...
哦。 Oh.
我从没怀疑过你。我从没怀疑过你。 I never doubted you. I never doubted you.
但这很有可能会让你更快乐 But there's a good chance that it will make you happier
甚至可以带来更健康、更长寿的生活。 and could even lead to a healthier and longer life.
生活就在我们面前，欢迎我们 Life is sitting here in front of us and welcoming
我们所有人都想投入其中，体验一切 all of us to dive in and experience everything
提供各种形状和形式。 on offer in every shape and form.
无论是下棋， Whether it's playing chess,
无论是演奏乐器， whether it's playing a musical instrument,
和你的孩子一起玩，或者定点跳伞， playing with your kids, or base jumping,
攀岩在100英尺高的海浪上冲浪 rock climbing, surfing a 100-foot wave,
我们必须充满激情和承诺…… we have to live with passion and commitment...
你还好吧，宝贝？ Ooh, you alright, babe?
．．．拥抱这一切。 ...And embrace all of it.
你喜欢骑马吗？ Do you love riding?
微风拂过你的脸庞， In the air with the wind in your face,
太好吃了。 it's so good.
每当我跳过去的时候， Whenever I go over a jump it's like,
发生的事就发生了。 what happens, happens.
当我开始做这件事的时候，我想重新抓住它 When I started this, I wanted to recapture that
我们在孩子身上看到的冒险精神， adventurous spirit that we see in our kids,
我不知道，也许这会引出 and I don't know, maybe that brings out the
我又像个孩子了，你知道吗？ child in me again, you know?
我们绕了个圈，我现在 We've come sort of full circle and I'm now
向他们学习。 learning from them.
我想这就是它的意义所在。 I think that's what it's about.
哇! Woo!
因为增长发生在 Because the growth that occurs through
任何具有挑战性的经历都是我们所追求的。 any challenging experience is really what we seek.