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平克·弗洛伊德之《月之暗面》 字幕翻译：样子@纪录片之家
《月之暗面》表达了那种 "Dark Side Of The Moon" was an expression of
迫切需要抒发出来的 political, philosophical, humanitarian empathy
政治、哲学和人道主义感受 that was desperate to get out.
# Us
# and them
# And after all
# we're only ordinary men.
我觉得整个乐队在暗面专辑中相互配合 Dark Side, I think... I felt like the whole band were working together.
我们当时富于创意，思想也很开放… It was a very creative time. We were very open as well...
…我看是因为大家当时的目标仍然一致 ...I think because we still had a common goal
就是要出名，要发财 which was to become rich and famous.
# Money
# so they say
# is the root of all evil today.
罗杰所探求的理念 The ideas that Roger was exploring
适用于所有年轻一代 apply to every new generation.
现在也基本和过去一样有意义 They still have very much the same relevance as they had.
# And if the cloud bursts,
# thunder in your ear
# You shout and no ...
暗面成功的原因之一 I think one of the successes of Dark Side is the fact
是它的丰富性，一张专辑里面 that actually it's very rich: there's a... there are a lot of songs,
有很多歌曲和想法 a lot of ideas all compressed onto the one record.
有那么一刻我记得非常清楚 I can clearly remember that moment
我坐着听完了整个专辑 of sitting and listening to the whole mix all the way through...
心中在想：天哪，我们这回干得可真够棒 and thinking: my God, we've really... done something fantastic here...
# All that you love
# All that you hate
# All you distrust 30
# All you save.
# All that you give
# All that you deal
# All that you buy,
# beg, borrow or steal.
畅销记录空前绝后 I think it has the all-time record,
稳居排行榜750周之久，也就是14年 constantly on the charts for nearly 750 weeks, about 14 years.
这张专辑是部大制作 It was a huge album,
不光因为它销量大，还有它的影响力 and huge not just in terms of its sales, but in terms of its influence.
它使得地下音乐 This was where underground music,
比如现代摇滚乐之类的真正成为了主流 progressive rock, whatever, really went mainstream.
这部唱片有很多传统的流行价值 It was a record that had lots of traditional pop values,
你可以跟唱的，但是 you could sing along to these songs, but
如果你想要在黑暗的房间里听 it also was a kind of thing that took you places
它也能够成为主宰 if you wanted to listen to it in a darkened room.
它可能是终极的概念唱片 It may very will be the ultimate concept record,
因为概念是不变的，歌曲也是不变的 because the concept is there, the songs are there,
空间和音乐都是不变的 the spaces and the music are there,
但它不会限制任何的想象力 but it doesn't take away any of the imagination.
1968年席德疯了之后，大卫加入乐队 After Syd went crazy in '68 and Dave joined
我们所有人就在探寻 we were, all of us, searching, fumbling around,
寻找一个答案：我们接下来做什么？ looking for... "what are we gonna do now?",
因为我们已经有了现成的人开始写歌 because here was the guy who starts producing all these songs,
而且几乎可以说是乐队的动力之源 and was the sort of heartbeats of the band.
席德在很长时间内给乐队留下了很大阴影 Syd casts a long and large shadow of events.
我觉得乐队还能走下去很不简单 I think that the band was very impressive to keep going,
毕竟，他们失去了主要的创作驱动力 actually, after loss of their main creative drive,
因为那是最初的选择，对吧？ I mean it was the first time you choose, isn't it,
也不可能说：好吧，都交给那个写歌的吧 I mean you wouldn't sit around say ok let's give it to the song writer.
席德走了以后，我们的音乐 更像是音响效果而不是歌曲 After Syd had gone the music became more kind of soundscapes than songs.
一定要知道你的优势是什么 You have to watch your strengths,
当时我们不会写单曲就很好 and it was a very good thing that we could not write singles,
不然就可能做不成那么有意思的事情 we might not have done some of the very interesting work that we did.
席德离开以后，弗洛伊德 开始转向缓慢行进的曲风 Once Syd was out of the picture, the Floyd just went glacial;
任其自由发展 they just let it all spread out.
我第一次看弗洛伊德表演是1968年夏天 When I saw the Floyd for the first time it was the summer of '68,
那是大卫·吉尔摩加盟后第一次美国巡演 it was actually their first American tour with David Gilmour,
真是太棒了，他们唱了 and they were just extraordinary, you know, it was
“再多些光吧”和“日心之控” "Let There Be More Light", "Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun",
纯粹的空幻摇滚乐 it was total space rock.
我开始完全爱上了 I started fully out of love with
那种空灵迷幻的东西 that... some of that psychedelic noodling stuff.
那时候我们还演奏很多器乐 We were still then playing a lot of instrumental work, if you like,
能有半张专辑 and that would be half the album.
但我们一直在寻找方向 But we were always searching for a direction.
一直有点儿在挣扎 A fighting a little bit between
既想要把界限往回收一些 wanting to push boundaries back a little bit
又想继续向前做实验性的尝试 and move forward in an experimental way,
但还要保留旋律 but also to retain melody.
我们的前进方向在专辑《干涉》中 When you get to "Meddle", quite clearly an "Echoes"
就有体现，专辑《回声》中更明显 shows the direction that we were moving in.
《干涉》这张专辑的其余部分都是歌曲 The rest of "Meddle" as I recall was songs,
所以唱片的背面是一段20分钟的作品 and so in the flip side was a 20-minute piece
首先，它是一种构想 a) and so was a construct, and
其次，我们开始写别人的故事了 b) it was the beginning of all the writing about other people.
# Strangers passing in the street,
# by chance two separate glances meet,
# and I am you and what I see is me
如果你愿意这么去想，那就是共鸣的开始 It was the beginning of empathy, if you like, you know,
“两个陌生人在街上偶遇，两个眼神相交 "two strangers passing in the street, by chance two passing glances meet,
我就是你，我看到的是自己” and I am you and what I see is me"
从此对我来说就像是有一根线 把所有东西都穿在了一起 is a sort of thread that has gone through everything for me ever since then...
并在暗面中爆发了出来 ... and had a big eruption in Dark Side.
一定要记得当时的时代背景 You have to remember the context of the time.
是华丽摇滚的鼎盛时期 This was the height of glam rock: there was,
有马克·波兰和他的T.Rex乐队 还有大卫·鲍威和他的专辑《基吉星团》 you know, Marc Bolan, and T.Rex, and David Bowie with
盛极一时，简直是流行乐的梦幻之作 Ziggy Stardust peddling there, sort of pop fantasies,
而弗洛伊德出了一张专辑，有这么深刻的主题 and the Floyd came along with an album that was about these weighty themes.
他创作了一个故事，可以说是一部剧作 He created a story, he created a... basically a theater piece
表现出了在现代社会生活的情形 about what it was like to live in the modern world.
我们四个都在一起讨论 All four of us were there, and there was a discussion about
把整个专辑做成主题式的 putting the album together and making it into this "themed",
也就是我们现在所说的主题唱片 this... I mean what is now called a "concept"-album.
有很多事情会影响一个人… There are a number of things that impinge upon an individual to...
…自己的生存观 the... colour his view of existence.
有些压力会把你推向某个方向 There are pressures that are capable of pushing you one direction or another,
比如说，不管是把你推向 and here's some of them... and... whether they push you towards
疯狂、死亡、投入、贪婪，还是别的 insanity, death, empathy, greed, whatever.
牛顿的有些物理学观点 There's something about the Newtonian view of that physics
可能很有意思，也许 that might be interesting and may be there could be...
这就是这张专辑的意义 this is what this record is about...
有一个非常难忘的美妙时期 There was one of those really good moments
乐队的每个人都发挥所长 that most bands do experience where everyone is on sight,
每个人都喜欢这主意，大家对由谁去做什么 and everyone likes the idea, and there's some sort of agreement as to,
或多或少都有一致意见 more or less, who's going to do what.
《月之暗面》是在伯蒙齐的 一个排练室里开始创作的 Dark Side Of The Moon started in a rehearsal room in Bermondsey
那应该是滚石的一间仓库 I think, that belongs... a warehouse that belongs to The Rolling Stones
我们就在那儿开始了愉快的创作 where we did some... sort of jammy writing, whatever you want to call it.
不记得我们在那儿写了多少东西 Not sure how much writing happened there.
比如说用E小调或是A调练习一、两个小时 You know, let's play in E minor or in A for an hour or two,
哦，听着不错，选出来5分钟 oh that sounds all right, that will take up 5 minutes.
很多音乐想法是即兴想出来的 A lot of the musical ideas just came up
就是在那些排练室里愉快地创作出来的 just to ... of jamming away in these rehearsal rooms...
当然歌词是罗杰写的 obviously the lyrics Roger brought in...
因为他有很多东西想表达 ...because he had things to say.
那是他第一次写专辑里的全部歌词 And it was the first time he wrote all the lyrics...
罗杰完全就是我们的推动力 Roger was all sorts of a pushing, driving force...
《月之暗面》描绘了年轻人的觉醒 The way "Dark Side Of The Moon" articulates some sense of
这绝对不受时间的限制 early adult's disenchantment is absolutely timeless...
我最近又听了一次，它总是能让我惊讶 I've listened to it again recently, and it always amazes me
我甚至都已经忘我了，真的 that I c... that I got away with it really, 'cause it was so
因为那降六和弦太美了 lower-sixed, and... you know... uhm...
“呼吸，自由呼吸，无畏在乎” "breathe, breathe in the air, don't be afraid to care".
另外，在这首音乐的背景中 Further thing, within the context of the music
在整张专辑的的背景中 and within the context of the pieces at whole:
人们已经准备好接受那种简单的欣喜 people are prepared to accept that simple exultation
准备好坚持立场 to be prepared to stand your ground and
尝试真实地生活 attempt to live your life in an authentic way.
我最早是作爵士乐的，我喜欢爵士乐 I came from jazz basically... I love it...
那是我的最爱，给了我启发 That's my favorite... that's my inspiration.
这首歌有意思的地方，我说的是爵士乐 And the interesting thing about this song is, I told you about jazz,
是这种和弦，像这样 is this certain chord... which is...
我在迈尔斯·戴维斯的专辑《泛蓝调调》中 that is totally down to a chord I had heard on actually
听过这种完全降调的和弦 Miles Davis album "Kind of Blue",
像这样，这个和弦我非常喜欢 which is a... that chord!.. that chord I just loved!
我们创作“呼吸”时 And when we're doing "Breathe",
降到了G调，但又怎么回到E调呢？ we got to G - I got to G - and how'd you get to E again?
一般会这样 Well, again, normally you go...
但是，我记得这段和弦 but... uhm... I remember this chord and I remember
我在家里弹琴，听着录音，我就想… working it out at home listening to the record, and I just thought...
# Breathe, breathe in the air.
# Don't be afraid to care.
大卫的双轨声部非常棒 Dave was brilliant at double tracking vocals.
我们可以用机器合成，但效果不一样 And we could do machines, but it is a difference.
# Look around
# and choose your own ground.
还有和声部分 There's also a harmony part...
# Long you live and high you fly
是这么唱的 And that's it how it's sung...
# And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry
# And all you touch and all you see
# Is all your life will ever be.
再回到乐队 Back to the band!..
接下来是两部分风琴器乐 There's two organ parts which come in now...
# Run, rabbit run
# Dig that hole,
# forget the sun,
仅“月蚀”一首他们就排练了几个月 They had been performing this work on as "Eclipse"
才真正拿到修道院路录音棚 for a few months I think, before actually even coming in to Abbey Road
进行首次录制 to start the first recordings...
也就是说演出很紧，要看到并不困难 ...which meant that the performances were pretty tight and not so hard to get.
在乐队演出时，所表演的东西 When you're working in a band and you're performing something, it
不管你愿不愿意，是不断发展和变化的 ...willy-nilly, it develops and changes...
# And balanced on the biggest wave
# You race towards an early grave.
在前盗版时代 In pre-bootlegging days this of course was
这当然是有效得多的好办法 a far more effective and better way of doing things,
因为进入录音棚就得排练 because you went in the studio and rehearsed up.
我们现场那样表演有一段时间了 We'd been playing it live that way for quite some time
用吉他演奏这样的曲子 as a sort of guitar jam, that sort of a piece.
我觉得我们没有一个人满意的 I think we were none of us that happy with it as a piece,
等到我们也有了个合成器 and when we also had this synthesizer...
上面带一个小的内置键盘 ...this Synth EA which had a little built-in keyboard
和一个定序器，好像是第一个定序器 and had a sequencer... it was the first sequencer I think...
我就把它插上了电，用它演奏了一段 ...I just plugged this up and started playing one sequence on it,
罗杰立刻竖起了耳朵，说听起来不错 and Roger immediately pricked up his ears and said that sounded good,
然后走过来，我们就开始一起模仿 and came up, and we started mocking with it together...
他加进了新的音符旋律 所有东西就这样开发出来了 and he put in a new sequence of notes, and all developed out of that...
一系列音符慢慢编进去 A series of notes played in slowly...
触发了噪声发生器和振荡器 triggering a noise generator and oscillators,
然后只要加速 and then just speed it up, you know...
基本就是这样 You've got it basically...
当然，立刻就听起来 And that, of course, immediately sounded
比我们当时的演奏要刺激得多 much more exciting than what we were currently doing.
他们是第一个真正全力以赴 They were the first band to really go out
以未来为主题作音乐的乐队 and try to sort of make music off the future.
我们用循环带、奇怪的声音和音效 We were doing a lot of things with tape loops
做了好多事情 and curious sounds and sound effects...
1972年他们完成那专辑时还没有这样的音乐 There wasn't something in 1972 when they put that album together.
不过，他们就这样完成了 But that's basically what they were doing.
从某种意义上说，他们让人看到了 They were... in a sense they were giving you a preview
未来声音的蓝图 of the sound pictures of the future.
有一些非常非常聪明 You know, there are some very very clever
也非常值得一听的声音实验 and highly listenable pieces of sonic experimentation.
这是主合成器，上面有高帽电热元件 So this is the main synthesizer, it has the high-hat element built-in.
我们用过滤器 Then we treated with filters and with
和其它振荡器合成这种颤音 other oscillators to get this sort of vibrato noise.
我们调出了这种吉它音，有回声的倒录吉它 And we're bringing this guitar, it's a backwards guitar with echoes ..... ,
是用话筒支架演奏的，就这样滑上去 it's been played with a mike stand leg, just sliding up...
在音响上听是从左到右，还有这些合成器 That was left-to-right across the stereo. And there's these synthesizers,
变形合成器能创造出未来主义的车辆噪音 Morph synth's, which are creating sort of futuristic vehicle noises,
把音高调低一点儿，同时进行摇动 which you take the pitch down a little bit, and pan it at the same time...
这样就产生一种摹拟的多普勒声音 That creates an artificial Doppler sound,
就好像是救护车从你身边呼啸而过 what looks like ambulance is whizzing past you...
来点儿脚步声，还有心跳声增加紧张感 bringing some footsteps... and some heartbeats for extra tension...
看吧，这条音轨上有很多种声音呢 As you see there's an awful lot going on this track...
尤其是这一部分 This section in particular,
“旅行”或者“奔跑” "The Travel" section or "On The Run" section
我认为相当复杂 I think was pretty complicated.
太多东西了 A lot of hands on deck...
你总是想要把音轨上放进更多元素 You do always want to put more things on than you had tracks for...
所以音轨会非常突然地 从一种东西变成另一种 So tracks would very suddenly change from one thing to a different thing
我们都在控制台上 All of us were on the desk,
我觉得就像在音量控制器上 I think as on the faders
当时就是那样 But that's the way it was, because
因为那时候还没有自动的 we didn't have automation in those days...
那个年代，混音就是一场演出 A mix in those days was a performance,
每一部分都相当于现场演奏 every bit as much as doing a gig.
其实这种演奏 It's one thing actually that
在现代社会里已经基本不见了 we've kind of lost in the modern age.
处理得非常非常好 Very very well-engineered,
构建得也非常非常细心 it was also very very carefully constructed.
所有东西都录制得很好 .....you know everything was well-recorded.
我经手的弗洛伊德唱片 Dark Side was really the first
暗面是第一张经过很好处理的 proper engineering job I'd been given with the Floyd.
在深度处理方面下了很多功夫 So there was pretty much putting on the deep end.
音乐也非常好听 It was very great musically as well.
他还想出了两个好主意 He also came up with a couple of good ideas.
他们要我录一些时钟作音效 I was commissioned to record some clocks for sound effects,
用于最早期的四声道音效 record for the very early days of quadrophony.
我们录制“时间”时 And when we were doing "Time"
他建议用这些钟表 he suggested we might like to have these clocks.
我记得房间里到处都是磁带在转 My memory of it is just this room full of tapes rolling around,
因为当时没有任何电脑辅助 because it was without any sort of computer help,
所有事情都得手动完成 everything had to be done manually.
要让所有的钟表在合适的时间鸣响 Getting all the clocks to chime at the right time - that was a process
就是要在多音轨磁带上找到特定的时刻 of just finding a particular moment on the multi-track tape
所有钟表声都出现在这里 where all the chiming would happen, and then
然后讲原声音轨进行定长回拨 back-timing the quarter-inch originals
里面包含每个钟表 which contained each of the clocks...
然后让磁带里的关键声音出现在特定长度上 And then the very critical thing of tapes starting at specific lengths,
这些都是靠手势和秒表完成的 which was all done with hand signs and stop-watches.
# Ticking away the moments that make up a dull day
# You fritter and waste the hours in an offhand way.
# Kicking around on a piece of ground in your home town
# Waiting for someone or something to show you the way.
这时姑娘们的声音首次出现 We got the girls making their first appearance here...
这是没经过处理的 That's un-processed...
然后我们打开这种频率变换效果 And we actually put this effect called a frequency translation on,
听起来就是这样了 which made them sound like this...
下面是独奏 Here is the solo...
这个很可能在开始表演之前 This one was probably taking some shape live
要下些功夫现场练习 before we ever got to doing it,
但一般在录音棚里 but usually in the studio on this sort of thing
就让一个人来一遍，看效果什么样 you just have a player over it and see what comes,
一般而且大多数都是第一个磁带最好 and it's usually and mostly the first tape is the best one,
后面再做的都只是重复前面的 and you find yourself repeating yourself thereafter.
70年代是吉它的时代 The 1970s was the era of the guitar.
他有那种很“蓝调”的声音 And he had that sort of very "bluesy" sound
同时还有其它声音 but then also he had that other sound,
那种古怪的、清澈的、尽乎飘渺的质感 that sort of spacey, very crystalline, almost ethereal quality.
# So you run and you run to catch up with the sun but it's sinking
# Racing around to come up behind you again.
# The sun is the same in a relative way but you're older,
# Shorter of breath and one day closer to death.
我在那年那时突然意识到生活已经开始了 I suddenly realized then that year that life was already happening.
我原谅了妈妈对教育的无比热衷 I excuse my mother was so obsessed with education
以及她对少年和青春期的看法 and the idea that childhood and adolescence and...
也就是所有的一切都是为了之后的生活做准备 well, everything was about preparing for a life that was going to start later.
而我突然意识到生活并不是在之后才开始 And I suddenly realized that life wasn't going to start later,
而是一早就开始了，一直在发生着 that it is... you know, it starts at dot and it happens all the time, and then...
而你在哪个阶段都能把握缰绳，掌控命运 at any point you can grasp the reins and start guiding your own destiny.
这对我是个重大启示，给我带来了很大震动 And that was a big revelation to me, I mean, it came as quite a shock.
# Every year is getting shorter never seem to find the time.
# Plans that either come to naught or half a page of scribbled lines
# Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way
我觉得在《月之暗面》里最好的歌词之一 One of the greatest lines I think on "Dark Side Of The Moon"
是罗杰的那句“漂浮在静谧的绝望中是多么英国 ” is Roger's line about "hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way",
这是能带来想象的一句歌词，怎么说呢？ which is a sort of line you could imagine - I don't know -
像是沃和毛姆这样的大作家笔下 Evelyn Waugh or Somerset Maugham or someone writing
对英国个性的一种观察 as an observation on the English character.
我觉得这种个性贯穿着整个专辑 And I think that character does permeate the whole record,
乃至平克·弗洛伊德的职业生涯 and indeed the whole of Pink Floyd's career.
# Home, home again.
# I like to be here when I can.
# When I come home cold and tired
# It's good to warm my bones beside the fire.
# Far away across the field
# The tolling of the iron bell
# Calls the faithful to their knees
# To hear the softly spoken magic spells.
它简单地表达了我对事物的感觉 It expresses my feelings about things very simply.
我觉得从音乐上… And I think that musically...
我觉得音乐是被当时投入的情绪 I think that the music was the summit then
带到了高潮 driven by that emotional commitment.
乐队基本上只想再要四、五分钟音乐 The band basically wanted another 4 or 5 minutes of music,
我们觉得器乐就可以 and we thought it could be an instrumental.
我当时好像就像平时那样坐在钢琴前 I think I just - as I always have done - is I sat at the piano...
然后有了最前面两段和弦 and I... and those first two chords came.
“我们与他们”还有“空中的大涡旋” "Us And Them" and "The Great Gig In The Sky",
都有很美妙的旋律 you know, are fabulous chord sequences,
真是奇妙的音乐 are really truly wonderful pieces of music.
我根本不知道要找个女歌手是谁的主意 I've no idea whose idea it was to get somebody as a female singer and...
但艾伦·帕森斯认识克莱尔·托丽 并和她合作过 but Alan Parsons knew Clare Torry and had been working with her,
让我们试试用她 and said why don't you try her...
她来了后又进行了即兴创作 She's just went in there and improvised over.
对，太妙了，真是棒极了！ Yeah, that was amazing, that was fantastic!
但那是后加的混音 But that was a moreover mixing.
我们知道想要什么，不是音乐上的 We knew what we wanted, not exactly musically,
但我们知道我们想要让人 but we knew that we wanted someone to just
对这段进行即兴创作，所以就引导她： improvise over this piece. So we directed her:
“想着死亡，想着恐惧 ... "think about death, think about horror,
反正想着什么，然后就开始唱” think whatever, and just go and sing".
我记得她过去进了录音棚 And my memory is, that she went out in the studio
很快就完成了，然后回来说： and did it very very quickly, and then came back in and said:
“非常对不起”，她觉得很不好意思 "I'm really sorry about this", very embarrassed.
而我们坐在录音棚里却在说：“这可真好” And we in fact were sitting in the studio saying: "This is wonderful".
当然这绝对精彩绝伦 And of course it's absolutely brilliant,
理查德的钢琴和风琴 both Rick's piano and organ work,
和克莱尔的歌唱都非常动人 and Clare's singing is just incredibly moving.
我记得在最后 In the very end of this, I remember,
我们慢慢地加强了回声的音效 we increased the echo slowly.
我们一直都不想 We always wanted to kind of
上专辑封面，不想用照片 not be on our covers ourselves, not have pictures.
这可能是所有专辑封面中最具辨识度的 It is probably the most recognizable album cover of all time.
这个封面你可以坐在那里 It's something that you can sit and look at
一直看上很长时间都不会烦 for a long time without getting fed up with it.
棱镜绝对是定义这张唱片的标识 The prism is the logo that absolutely defines the record.
《月之暗面》的棱镜设计有三个基本元素 Dark Side Of The Moon prism design comes from 3 basic ingredients,
其中之一就是代表 one of which is the light show
乐队巡回演出时的灯光效果 that the band put on tour and trying to represent that and also
还有一个是歌词，我觉得讲的是 one of the themes were lyrics which was, I think,
野心和贪婪，第三个是 about ambition and greed; and the third
针对理查德·赖特的要求 it was an answer to Rick Wright
他说他想要的是… who said that he wanted something...
…简单、大胆而戏剧性… ...simple and bold, and dramatic...
为乐队所做的设计展示 The presentation, as we call it,
整个过程其实非常简洁 of the design to the band was a very brief affair.
他就带来了三、四个想法… He just brought in 3 or 4 ideas...
我还记得一眼就看到了金字塔… I do remember instantly seeing the pyramid...
他们进来后四处看看 They came in and they looked around,
然后就说：“嗯，那个！” and they went: "mmm, that one!"
每个人都马上说道： Everyone immediately went:
“太棒了！很好！就用它了” "Terrific! Great! Let's do that".
如此的典范却是这么迅速轻易地被选中 As epitomized by there but it did choose it so quickly and so easily is,
我觉得还真是挺合适的 I just think it is somehow very fitting,
想到这张专辑很难不联想到它，对吧？ I mean, it's hard to imagine it without it, isn't it really?
在美国的故事是个灾难 The story in America had been a disaster that
唱片没卖出去多少，和所有优秀艺术家一样 really we hadn't sold records. And like all good artists
首先会去责难唱片公司 the first thing you do is blame the record company.
但是在这件事上 我觉得会有更多人和我们一样看 But in this particular case, I think we might get a few more people to agree
觉得他们的表现不怎么样 that they hadn't performed properly.
所以他们就派来了巴斯卡·梅农 And so there was a ... they brought in a man called Bhaskar Menon
他可是相当厉害 who was absolutely terrific.
他决定要把这差事办好 And he decided he was going to make this work
他要让美国公司把唱片 and he was going to make the American company
卖出去，而且他做到了！ sell this record. And he did!
我们为此设计了市场营销活动 We devised a marketing campaign for this, which was
比公司之前做得规模都大 far more extensive than anything that the company had ever done.
这张专辑在巡演一年之后才面市 It was an album that came after virtually a year of touring.
有了大量可靠的媒体评论 There was a tremendous amount of credible press.
我们这次没推单曲，专辑的销售非常出色 We got by this time without a single got this album tremendous sales,
在当时卖到了一百万份 close to about a million albums by that stage,
这个成绩相当不俗 which was quite remarkable.
我当时就知道在此之后 And I knew that the time would come when
我们肯定需要再上一个台阶 we would have to get on to the next stage,
去打动下一个级别的听众 to get to the next category or level of audience.
我们真的需要一些单曲类的东西 We really would need some single-like material.
人们总是说，需要有热门单曲 They always say, you know, you need a hit single
我们的“钱”也算是热门单曲 and we had a sort of hit single with "Money".
# Money, get away.
# Get a good job with good pay and you're okay.
要是“钱”这首歌创作时 You know, I would have remembered
有很强的蓝调风格，那我肯定会记得的 writing Money as a sort of very "bluesy" thing.
那样我还真唱不太好 I can't sing that up in that register of that...
这里面有种大洋对岸 And there's a very kind of transatlantic,
蓝调的音乐风格，但要是听最初的小样 bluesy sort of twang to it all. Listen to the original demo -
根本不是这样的，它很保守、很英式 it's not like that at all, it's all very kind of prissy and very English.
关于“钱”这首歌 The one thing about Money that
我觉得人们忘了它有着最怪的… I think people forget is that it's got the weirdest...
是拍子最怪的热门金曲之一 it's one of the biggest hits with the weirdest time signature.
很不常见的7/8拍，反复演奏很棒 Very unusual 7/8 time. Good riff.
# Money, get back.
# I'm all right Jack keep your hands off of my stack.
# Money, it's a hit.
# Don't give me that do goody good bullshit.
# I'm in the high-fidelity first class traveling set
# And I think I need a Lear jet.
我和迪克十几岁时同在 I'd played in a band with Dick when we were
剑桥的一个乐队演奏 a sort of teenagers in Cambridge.
迪克他… Dick was...
就像是剑桥黑帮的一部分 was sort of a part of the Cambridge mafia.
我也不太认识别的萨克斯风手 不过就算我认识 I didn't know any other sax players but then probably
在他回绝之前也不太敢找别人演奏 too nervous to ask anyone other before he'd turn off.
他很棒 He was terrific.
迪克用7/8拍演奏了萨克斯风独奏 Well Dick did his sax solo in the 7/8 time.
然后我们就坐下来给吉他独奏 And then we sort of sat and worked out
想出了不同的旋律 a different sequence for the guitar solo,
这让我的活儿容易点儿 probably to make my life easier
我用不着担心拍子的问题 so I didn't have to think about the timing.
这种节拍变化我非常喜欢 I love the fact that it does change.
可以这么说，《月之暗面》 Let me say that lots of things happened
相关的有些事就好像魔幻一般 on Dark Side Of The Moon are kind of magical...
都不用我们特意去促成 without us intentionally making them happen.
就自然而然地成了，我觉得“钱”这首歌 It just happened. And I think that's one of the great things
最棒的一点就是它的节拍变化 about Money is that it does change time signatures.
那就是他变回到了4/4拍 And that's the thing: he goes back into the 4/4
突然间，又开始摇滚了！ and all of a sudden - man, it's rock city!
“钱”是很出色的单曲 Money is an amazing single because it's about
因为它讲的就是自己所变成的故事 那就是成功 the very thing that it became - it's about success.
肯定有些东西很不错 Something certainly did the trick and it
估计你或许会说它让我们变成了超级乐队 moved us up into a super league, I suppose you might say,
它带来了不少愉悦、带来了一些自豪 也带来了问题 which brought with it some great joy, some pride and some ... problems.
它当然改变了我们的生活，我们成了 Of course it changed our life and we were now
在体育馆表演的热门摇滚乐队 a big rock-n-roll band playing at stadiums.
不再知道为什么身在乐队了 You don't know what you're in it for anymore.
本来加入乐队是为了取得巨大成功 You know, you're in it to achieve massive success and
挣大钱、出名和与这些相关的东西 get rich and famous and all these other things that go along with it.
突然这些都有了 And when they're all suddenly done
就会想：呃，为什么？下面呢？ you're going... mhm huh well... why... what next?
不是说我们做得不够漂亮 It's not to say we didn't do some good work,
但是我们做得出色的地方都是关于 but the good work we did was actually all about
我们达成了目标之后出现的许多负面… a lot of the negative aspects of what went on after we'd achieved...
…效果 ...the goal.
很明显这对之后的专辑 I mean that obviously informed what
产生了很深的影响 turned out to be the next album quiet deeply
《希望你在这里》，但我们不在 "Wish You Were Here" - because we weren't,
我们多数人当时不在 most of us most of the time.
那是白金畅销专辑 They were a platinum monster
但是没什么意思 and it's not a lot of fun.
我们在1969年为电影《扎布里斯基角》 Sort of amazing to me now that we had that piece of music
录制的那段音乐现在看来有点儿不可思议 in 1969 when we recorded the music for Zabriskie Point.
我看我们在《妈妈的心肝》 And throughout, I guess, "Atom Heart Mother",
《阴云蔽日》和《干涉》几张专辑里 the "Obscured By Clouds" album, the "Meddle" album
都没把它挖掘和利用起来，这段音乐真美 we didn't dig it out and use it, such a lovely piece of music.
导演安东尼奥尼并不清楚想要什么 Antonioni didn't really know what he wanted.
他有着极度的控制欲 He needed desperately to have control.
所以就算干得不错，作品很完美 So even if you did the right thing and it was perfect
他也不会接受，因为他根本没考虑过 he couldn't bear to accept it because there wasn't a choice.
他真正想要的只有 All he really wanted was
“尤金，小心那斧子” "Careful With That Axe, Eugene."
我们都不明白他想要什么 这让我们都有点儿沮丧 I think we were all getting a bit frustrated of "what does he want?".
我就坐在录音棚里 I think I was just sitting in the studio and
看着钢琴，恰好 I was seeing the piano and I happened
放着那段暴力镜头 to have that Violent Sequence up
我就看着，可能是感觉有点儿烦 and I was watching it and perhaps I felt a bit tired or whatever,
就开始弹出了那段旋律 I just started the chord sequence.
当时每个人都觉得那可真不错 At the time I think everyone thought: this is really good.
在我们觉得为安东尼奥尼的电影找到绝配时 When we thought we'd really got something brilliant for his movie,
他会说： Antonioni would say...
“它很美，但是太伤感了” "It's beautiful, but is too sad", you know,
“这让我想到教堂” "It makes me think of church".
显然它需要在这张专辑里得到重生 It was obviously waiting to be reborn in this album.
歌词非常直接明了 The lyrics are so direct and linear:
就是关于人类是否有能力 those fundamental issues of whether or not
实现人道主义的几个关键问题 the human race is capable of being humane.
在我看来这首歌的好处是 What's good about the writing of this song, from my point of view,
留下来反复回响的空间 is the leaving of the gaps for the repeat echo.
# Us
# and them
没有回响听起来有点儿奇怪 It's kind of strange hearing it without it... without the echoes in it.
# And after all
# we're only ordinary men.
我经过这么多年以制作人的身份跟人合作 I find myself with instrumentalists over the years working with people
在制作唱片的过程中 having very-very often as a producer in my capacity
要非常经常地跟演奏者们说： for producing records having to say to people:
别占满了，演奏半个小节 now leave the whole, now just play for half a bar
另外一个半小节别演奏，空着 and then leave a bar and a half free, empty.
这首歌就是这样，也是它成功的关键 And that's kind of what that song is, that's the way it works.
弗洛伊德成功的简单之处很难讲述 The simplicity of Floyd is really almost hard to talk about
因为太简单了，尼克·梅森演奏得很慢 because it is so simple. Nick Mason playing very slowly, you know,
精准，没有很多花哨的多余击打 exact, without a lot of overly freely percussion flourishes.
理查德的钢琴和风琴处理非常轻柔 Richard's touch on piano, on organ - very gentle,
但是同样精准，音符处理时间刚刚好 very soft, but also exact, and just hitting the notes right.
留白是一直以来的关键 It was always about leaving space.
# Up
# and down
# And in the end
# it's only round and round.
我觉得大卫和理查德 I think, Dave and Rick -
在里面的和声非常有感染力 their harmony vocals on it are really very affecting.
有趣的是他们的声音很像 Funny enough, they have similar voices,
他俩声音的融合 both their voices are a big factor in
是《月之暗面》的一大特色 Dark Side Of The Moon the way they blent.
这里是大卫和理查德合唱 That's Dave and Rick together.
理查德之后有一段稍低的 Then Rick does another part lower that he did.
之后是女声伴唱加入 And then the girls are also joining in.
“要我说这样又不会死人 "I mean, they're not gonna kill ya,
如果很快地狠狠电一下 so if you give 'em a quick short sharp shock
人们就不会再做了，其实他这还算轻的 they don't do it again. Dig it? I mean he got off lightly,
因为我本可以给他狠狠来一下 我才打了他一下 'cos I could've given him a thrashing. I only hit him once!
这就是对错问题，对吧？ It was only a difference of right and wrong, ain't it?
礼貌点儿又不会少块肉，对吧？” I mean good manners don't cost nothing, do they, eh?"
这对我来说真的很重要 It seemed to me really important... I can't...
我也不知道为什么要加这段独白 I've no idea why to have voices on this thing.
这里巧妙的地方只有一处 And so the only thing that was clever about it at all
那就是怎么做，不能是采访 was how to do it, so not to have an interview.
很可能是在食堂想出来的 Devised probably in the canteen
当晚晚些拍摄下来 and done later that evening.
我写了几张卡片 So I wrote a bunch of cards
上面有些问题 with the questions on them.
我觉得唱片上的独白 I think what the voices did on the record was
确实表现出了黑暗面 they actually brought out the dark side,
在一定程度上是唱片的暗面 they were in a way the dark side of the record.
首先我们先用了几个 First, we used a number of people
和我们一起在录音棚工作的人 who worked in the studio with us,
我们用了三、四个巡演技师 so we used 3 or 4 of our road crew.
我完全不害怕死去 I ain't frightened of dying at all,
反正到时候也躲不过去 'cause when you gotta go - you gotta go
爱尔兰守门人盖瑞说： Irish doorman Gerry:
“我为什么要害怕死亡呢？ "Why should I be frightened of dying?
完全没有道理，人都难免一死” There's no reason for it, you gotta go some time".
“翅膀”也是在同时在那里录制作的 "Wings" were recording in here at the same time
所以我们用了保罗、琳达和亨利·麦库罗 so we actually used Paul and Linda, Henry McCullough:
“不知道，我当时醉得厉害” "I don't know, I was really drunk at the time".
是这些不经常接受采访的人 It's the people who are not used to being interviewed,
对这些问题进行回答 who come up with the stuff.
开始的时候会问： I think they started off with
“你最喜欢什么颜色？” 和“你最喜欢吃什么？” "what's your favorite color?", and "your favorite food?"
这些都不能让人说出什么的话 And when none of which was just to get people there...
之后就会问：“你上次用暴力是什么时候？” and then they went into "when was the last time you were violent?"
这问题很好：“你上次用暴力是什么时候？” This was the good bit: "when was the last time you were violent?"
然后你回答问题，再换下一张卡片 and then you'd take... you'd answer it and take the next card,
上面写着：“你站在正义的一边吗？” the next card said: "were you in the right?"
“对，我站在正义的一边” "Yeah, heh heh, I was in the right"
“对，当然拥护正义” "Yes, absolutely in the right!"
“我肯定选正义一方” "I certainly was in the right!"
“对，我肯定站在正义一方 "Yeah, I was definitely in the right,
那家伙是自己找的麻烦” that geezer was cruising for a bruising"
有个很棒的巡演技师叫带帽罗杰 And this remarkable roadie called Roger the Hat
“如果我他妈能加入到里面 "If I participate in this fucking effort, I ..... gonna get
最后能上黄金大碟，那该有多好！” my gold disc at the end of it, imagine that, ahhh!"
他们试图找到他来回答卡片 They were trying to track him down to do the cards.
但等人都找到他的时候 By the time they got hold of him, somebody
卡片不见了，不知道在哪儿了 the cards had gone missing, I don't know where they'd gone.
所以罗杰·沃特斯最后是 So Roger Waters actually ended up doing it...
在一次采访中回答了问题 he actually did that one as an interview.
你觉得你要疯掉吗，罗杰？ So, you think you're going mad, Roger?
我希望生命中会到一个阶段 我会确信无疑 I want to reach a stage in my life where I were completely convinced
我已经过界了，或者就是疯了吧 I had gone over the brinkle or that's what I cared to call it...
很显然这多少和席德有关 It was obviously a bit to do with Syd, and
我觉得是为与众不同而辩护 I think it's about defending the notion of being different.
我们面对的根本问题是 The fundamental question that's facing us all is
我们是否能够驾驭 whether or not we're capable of dealing
整个“我们和他们”的问题 with the whole question of "Us and Them"
他作为个人所感受的一切 What he was feeling as an individual
恰恰反映出了很多人 mirrored almost exactly what a lot of other people
在自己生活中的感受 were feeling at the time of their own lives.
我毫不怀疑 There's no question in my mind that
《月之暗面》是50年来 Dark Side of the Moon was one of the most important
最重要的艺术宣言之一 artistic statements of the last fifty years probably.
它感动了全世界的很多很多人 It touched very many people all over the world
而不简简单单只是说： in ways that could not simply be put down to the fact that:
“哦，曲调很美”或者 “哦，我喜欢结尾那部分” "oh, the nice tunes" and "oh, I like that bit at the end"
我觉得是一次完整的体验 I mean, this was a complete experience.
那是一个很冷酷的时代 It was actually a really grim time,
他写了一部很冷酷的专辑 and he wrote a very grim record but did it with music
但那些音乐令人振奋引人注目、让人着迷 that was extremely uplifting and compelling and bewitching
我认为我们做这部专辑时 I think it was a very very happy and creative
是一个非常快乐、富于创造 令人享受的年代 and enjoyable time when we made this album.
那可能是我们职业生涯中最专注的时期 It was probably the most focused moment in our career
作为一个乐队，我们相互配合 in terms of all of us working together as a band.
我非常喜欢那样轻松地戴着耳机 I'd love to have been a person who could sit back with his headphones on,
第一次从头听到尾的感觉 listen to that the whole way through for the first time,
从来没有过那种体会 I mean I had never had this experience,
说真的，很舒服 I tell you, it would've been nice.
其实经常缺失的是 The thing that's often missed is the fact
人们在情绪层面的反应 that basically people respond to that on the
那才是伟大唱片的基础 emotional level, and that's what makes great records.
那是情绪使然 It is driven by emotion,
一点儿也不做作 there's nothing plastic about it, you know,
非常自然 there is nothing contrived about it,
我觉得就是这样的 and, I think that's what is giving it its...
也许这就是它经久不衰的原因 or maybe one of the things those giving it - its longevity
# All that you touch
# All that you see
# All that you taste
# All you feel.
# All that you love
# All that you hate
# All you distrust
# All you save.
# All that you give
# All that you deal
# All that you buy,
# beg, borrow or steal.
# All you create
# All you destroy
# All that you do
# All that you say.
# All that you eat
# And everyone you meet
# All that you slight
# And everyone you fight.
# All that is now
# All that is gone
# All that's to come
# and everything under the sun is in tune
# but the sun is eclipsed by the moon.
但这并不表示阳光闪耀的时刻不存在 But that's not to say that potential for the sun to shine does not exist, You know,
沿着路走向光明 Walk down the path towards the light
而不是走向黑暗 rather than walking to the darkness.
There is no dark side on the moon really,
matter of fact it's all dark...