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INTERVIEWER:
Are we ready to start?

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CREW MEMBER:
We are, the sound is ready.

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CHENEY:
Let me get rid of this.

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INTERVIEWER:
Yeah, take your time.

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And I guess
I'm the only one on camera,

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or are they gonna
shoot you some?

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INTERVIEWER: Oh, no, just you.
Just me, okay.

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[♪]

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INTERVIEWER:
What's your favorite virtue?

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Integrity.

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INTERVIEWER:
What do you appreciate most
in your friends?

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Honesty.

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INTERVIEWER:
Your idea of happiness?

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A day on the south fork
of the Snake with a fly rod.

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INTERVIEWER:
Your idea of misery?

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Loss of a family member.

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INTERVIEWER:
What's your favorite food?

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Spaghetti.

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INTERVIEWER:
What do you consider
your main fault?

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My main fault...

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Umm... Hm. Well, I don't
spend a lot of time

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thinking about my faults,
I guess would be the answer.

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Uh...

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INTERVIEWER:
When was the first time
you went fishing

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after your heart transplant?

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CHENEY:
This is it.

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Haven't been on the river
since last summer.

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[♪]

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CHENEY:
It's an important part
of my life, fly-fishing.

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It requires intense
concentration to do it well.

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It's one of the few things
I was able to do over the years

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that let me put everything else
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It didn't matter
what else was happening.

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If I was out on the stream
I was out on the stream,

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that's what
I was focused on.

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REPORTER 1:
There is panic on the street,
thousands of people running--

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WOMAN:
We saw the plane on the other
side of the building,

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and there was smoke and people
are jumping out the windows--

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REPORTER 2:
The second building
has just collapsed--

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REPORTER 3:
Huge explosion now
raining debris on us.

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We better get out of the way!

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FIREMAN:
Let's go, let's go, let's go!

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[SIRENS BLARING]

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CHENEY:
People say, well, you know,
how did you feel?

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That's not the way
I think about it,

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I had a job to do.

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A secret service agent
came in.

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He said, "Sir, we have
to leave immediately"

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and propelled me out of
my office and down the hall.

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I got on the telephone
with the president,

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who was in Florida,

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and told him
not to be in one location

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where we could both
be taken out.

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We had a list of six aircraft
that had been hijacked.

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We could account
for three of them,

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two in New York
and one in the Pentagon.

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But we had three more out there,

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and we didn't know
where they were.

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There had been a report
of a plane outside Washington

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80 or 90 miles away,
headed for Washington

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at a high rate of speed.

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You know you could
wring your hands

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and be worried
and get emotional about it,

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but then
you can't function.

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Under those circumstances,
you gotta act, you know,

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you've got to deal
with the situation as it arises,

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you've got to
anticipate difficulties.

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That's the nature
of conflict.

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A plane 80 miles out,

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traveling at a high rate
of speed to Washington

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is a matter of minutes,
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arrives over the city.

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I gave the instructions
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to take it out.

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JO BECKER:
Dick Cheney unquestionably

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is the most powerful
vice president in history.

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He changed
the course of history

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in a way that
no vice president has.

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VICTOR DAVIS HANSON:
He didn't see his role
as galvanizing public opinion.

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He wasn't a vice president that
went out with a new initiative

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and tried to build
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BOB WOODWARD:
He did not want
to be flexible.

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He just felt you had to get
in the face of the terrorists

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or the potential threats
and use extreme measures.

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STEPHEN HAYES:
It wasn't just about
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it was about
projecting American power.

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RON SUSKIND:
Almost any man can stand up
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but if you want to really know
a man's character,

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give him power.

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CHENEY:
The ones who spend
all their time

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trying to, uh, be loved
by everybody

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probably aren't doing much.

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If you're not prepared to, uh,
to have critics,

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and to be subject
to criticism,

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then, uh, you know,
wrong line of work.

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If you wanna be loved, uh,
you know, go be a movie star.

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NARRATOR:
[THE Richard Bruce Cheney(LIFE
grew up in Casper, Wyoming.

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The dramatic landscape
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made a lasting
impression on him.

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CHENEY:
There's something just
very special about it,

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in the sense of...of space.

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A sense of freedom,
and sense of possibilities.

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We loved to fish, Dad got us
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Dad was very much aware
his whole life

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of the possibility that,
you know, economic disaster

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could be around
the next corner.

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They were diligent,
hardworking,

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and both sides of the family
were, uh, lifelong Democrats.

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If somebody had asked me
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I probably would have said,

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"Well, you know, my family's
all Democrats."

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High school was a good time.

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Played football,
played baseball,

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was senior class president.

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Everybody knew who
Lynne was... She was a star.

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She was state champion
baton twirler,

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and she was
very attractive.

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You couldn't miss her.

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LYNNE CHENEY:
He wasn't flashy,

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but as I got to know him
better I found him

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one of the most thoughtful
people I'd ever known.

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CHENEY:
It was before the advent
of the 60s.

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Nobody ever saw drugs
in Casper in the 1950s.

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The most potent thing that was
out there was a can of beer.

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We didn't face the kinds
of problems and challenges

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that later generations did.

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NARRATOR:
Upon Cheney's graduation
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a local oilman arranges
a scholarship

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for him to attend
Yale University.

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CHENEY:
Totally different environment
from what I was used to.

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Trees and buildings
and people everywhere.

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I was all hemmed in.

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I didn't work
at my academics.

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I found a bunch of friends
who, uh,

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consumed a lot of beer,
just as I did.

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NARRATOR:
Cheney feels powerless,

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in an environment
that favors the elite.

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RON SUSKIND:
He can't measure up.
These kids are too smart.

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They're maybe too privileged,

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they are too well
nourished educationally.

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NARRATOR:
Cheney fails out of Yale
in his freshman year.

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He is allowed to return, but
his scholarship is taken away.

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In his sophomore year, Cheney
is asked to leave for good.

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JOE MYER:
You gotta realize,
we didn't have to work

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that hard in high school
in Casper.

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I think we had good grades,
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a consequence totally
of all our hard work.

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LYNNE CHENEY:
I was stunned,
I was very surprised.

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His parents had a letter
from the Dean

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that said he'd become involved
with a spirited group of men.

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INTERVIEWER:
Were they disappointed
in you at that time?

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CHENEY:
Uh, I'm sure they were.

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I gave them reason
to disapprove

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back when I was 19,
20, 21 years old.

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NARRATOR:
Cheney gives up
on his college education

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and returns to Wyoming.

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He finds work
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laying electrical cable.

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CHENEY:
I lived pretty much
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paycheck to paycheck.

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There were times when it was a,
be a gap between jobs,

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but then you could probably
get credit at the local bar

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and they'd run a tab for you
until you got a paycheck.

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When you came in at night
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you'd go to the bar and down
large quantities of Coors beer.

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NARRATOR:
Cheney is arrested twice
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for drunk driving.

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CHENEY:
When I was arrested
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for driving under the influence
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that was very sobering.

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My friends and classmates
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Lynne had graduated
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from Colorado College.

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And I was in jail
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The real question is, you know,
what are you gonna do now?

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NARRATOR:
At the age of 22,
Cheney is an itinerant lineman,

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who has flunked out
of Yale twice,

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with a growing arrest record
and a drinking problem.

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He has hit bottom.

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He fails again and again
in the early part of his life,

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all the way up until Lynne

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basically takes him
and shakes him.

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She says, "I am not going to be
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so step up buddy."

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INTERVIEWER:
What did Lynne say to you?
What was that conversation?

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Uh... Uh, that's still private.

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[CHUCKLES]

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There's a...a... It was clear
she disapproved.

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I needed to get my act together,
I needed to go back to school

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and get an education.

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NARRATOR:
From now on, Cheney
will control his own fate.

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He begins classes at
the University of Wyoming,

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majoring in Political Science.

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Turned out when I went back
and applied myself

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I was a pretty good student.

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A year later, Lynne finally
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NARRATOR:
After getting
his Bachelor's degree,

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Cheney enters the University
of Wisconsin, Madison.

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Once he has his Doctorate,
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plans to be a Professor
of Political Science.

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PROTEST LEADER:
The time to act is now,

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clearly and decisively
against the war in Vietnam.

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we won't go!

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NARRATOR:
Student protests against
the Vietnam War

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are growing in numbers.

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On the east coast,
the center of the movement

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is Columbia University.

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On the west coast,
it's Berkeley.

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And in the midwest, it's
the University of Wisconsin.

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CHENEY:
Wisconsin had a reputation of
being a pretty radical campus,

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riots and protests
of various kinds.

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National Guard was called out
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I can remember the mime troupe
meeting there,

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and the guys that ran around
in white sheets

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with the entrails of pigs,
dripping blood.

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I basically supported
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was doing at that point,

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so I was not
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STEVEN HAYWARD:
The country's deeply divided

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in a way you really almost
hadn't seen since the civil war.

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We were trying very hard
to get on with our lives,

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to complete our educations
and start a family and so forth.

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A period of time when I think
probably a lot of us

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made judgments or ended up
having our political philosophy

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shaped and developed by what
we saw happening in the society,

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and it certainly moved us
in a conservative direction.

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[♪]

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NARRATOR:
In 1968, a 27 year-old
Cheney moves to Washington

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to participate in a fellowship
that pairs graduate students

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with members of Congress.

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He wants to spend a year

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experiencing
the political process up close

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before returning
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CHENEY:
There was an orientation
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in the Congressional
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One of the early speakers
was a guy named Don Rumsfeld,

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I'd never heard of.

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He was young and dynamic,
he was very impressive.

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So there are different ways
that someone could do it.

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The task is there,
the problem's there.

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The problem is
to reduce the rate

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of increasing
the cost of living.

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I had agreed to interview

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individuals that
they'd selected,

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and one of those individuals
turned out to be a young fellow

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from the University of Wisconsin
graduate school.

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CHENEY:
That's probably the worst
interview I ever had in my life.

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It's the only time I can recall
I got thrown out of the office.

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If you're looking for
warm and fuzzy,

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Rumsfeld's not
the right place to go.

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Couple of months later,
President Nixon announced

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that Rumsfeld then was
being nominated

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to be Director of
the Anti-Poverty program

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at the old office
of Economic Opportunity.

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PRESIDENT NIXON:
Sit down, please.

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Don Rumsfeld today is making
what, for him,

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may be his hardest and most
important political decision.

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He's giving up
one of the safest seats

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in the Congress of
the United States to take on

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one of the most
important agencies,

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one of the most
controversial agencies

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in the entire government.

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CHENEY:
I sat down one night,
unsolicited,

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and wrote a 12-page memo

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telling Rumsfeld
what he should do

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in terms of
confirmation hearings

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and how he should
conduct himself.

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I ended up liking the memo
and remembering Dick Cheney

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and asking him if he'd come
to work with me.

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CHENEY:
He looked up when I came in
and said,

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"You're
Congressional Relations,

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now get the hell
outta here."

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I went down the hall,
moved in and took over.

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We had offices over
in the West Wing.

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That's prime real estate,

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especially for a young guy
in Washington.

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RUMSFELD:
The tougher things got,
the better he got.

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He didn't ever get skittish
or back off.

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He would decide
what needed to be done,

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and then go about
and do it.

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JAMES MANN:
Rumsfeld is a very combative
bureaucratic player.

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Wherever he is, he's pushing
for more turf for himself,

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so Cheney watches all that,
learning at Rumsfeld's feet.

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And this is the beginning
of Cheney's sort of growth,

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his first role as the guy right
behind him, the number two.

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The guy who's gonna stay up
twice as late as you,

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the guy's thinking of things
before you even think of them.

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INTERVIEWER:
How much exposure did you have
to President Nixon,

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during those years
when you were...?

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He was probably
the first president

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I ever met
and shook hands with.

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Rumsfeld took some of us
into the oval office one day

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on sort of a morale booster,

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different cabinet members
would bring their key staff in.

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NARRATOR:
As the 1972 election
draws near,

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Chen is offered a job
working for Nixon's committee

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to re-elect the president.

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But Rumsfeld wants to keep
his trusted deputy.

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I made a good decision,
I went with Rumsfeld

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so I was not near when
the train wreck happened.

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HARRY REASONER:
A federal grand jury
indicts seven former aides

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and campaign associates
of President Nixon's.

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NARRATOR:
With Nixon's approval,

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a group of
government-paid operatives

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spies on the president's
political enemies.

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Nixon's men are caught
during a burglary

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at the Watergate complex.

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The president himself
then participates

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in the attempt to cover up
their crimes.

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Watergate obviously
was absolutely devastating.

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Having known
some of the people involved,

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and watching
that whole thing unfold,

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it was...a political scandal
of major proportions.

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NEW REPORTER:
More than 50,000 telegrams

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poured in on Capitol Hill today,
so many,

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Western Union was swamped.

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They just say, "Impeach
Richard Nixon,

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or force him to resign."

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NARRATOR:
As Watergate shakes the country,

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Nixon's vice president,
Spiro Agnew,

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is charged with bribery
and forced from office.

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NIXON:
The vice president
of the United States,

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Congressman Gerald Ford
of Michigan.

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[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

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NARRATOR:
Nixon chooses house
minority leader Gerald Ford

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as his new vice president,

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the first unelected
vice president

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in United States history.

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Through '73 and on into
the summer of '74,

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those were sort of the crucial
18 months of Watergate.

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STEPHEN HAYES:
He did have a front row seat.

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He could see
everything evolve sort of

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at every step
along the way.

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And in all of my years
of public life,

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I have never
obstructed justice.

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How can you talk about
blackmail and bribery

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and keeping witnesses silent?

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This is the Presidency
of the United States.

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Congress became
very aggressive

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at trying to reassert
some balance of power

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in the federal government.

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The Congress sort of
felt their oats.

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When you've got
the president in your sights

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and you've got the prospects
of impeachment,

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that, you know,
radically shifts the balance

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between the two branches.

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The meeting
will come to order,

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for the House of Representatives

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to exercise
its Constitutional power

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to impeach Richard M. Nixon.

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I have never been a quitter.

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To leave office before my term
is over is abhorrent

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to every instinct
in my body.

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REPORTER 1:
Vice President Ford

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will become the nation's
38th president tomorrow.

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REPORTER 2:
Indications are Ford will ask
the entire Nixon cabinet

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to stay on.

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Ford's choice
for vice president,

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Nelson Rockefeller.

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NARRATOR:
On August 9th, 1974,
Gerald R. Ford is sworn in

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as the 38th president
of the United States.

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RUMSFELD:
He became the only man
in our history

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to become President having
never run for vice president

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or president, so he
didn't have a campaign team.

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He didn't have a policy team,
he didn't have a platform.

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GERALD FORD:
My fellow Americans,

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our long national
nightmare is over.

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NARRATOR:
Within days
of taking office,

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President Ford's approval
ratings reached 71 percent.

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But one month later,
Ford squanders the good will.

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REPORTER:
Today, in a move

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which caught just about
everybody by surprise,

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President Ford made the most
controversial decision

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he has made since
assuming office

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just one month
ago tomorrow.

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FORD:
Now therefore,
I, Gerald R. Ford,

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have granted a full, free,
and absolute pardon

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onto Richard Nixon,

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for all offenses against
the United States which...

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RUMSFELD:
It came as a stunning action,

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a...a shock to
the American people.

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REPORTER 1:
This means Mr. Nixon
cannot be prosecuted

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for any possible
Watergate crimes.

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REPORTER 2:
Do you think
the Nixon pardon

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really serd to bind up
the nation's wounds?

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The decision has created
more antagonism

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than I anticipated.

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REPORTER 3:
Do you think that there is
any evidence

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there was a deal made
between Mr. Nixon and Mr. Ford?

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I think we have to say

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there are a lot of
unanswered questions tonight.

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Just how much damage
has this done

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to the president's relations
with Congress?

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I would predict rough going
for Mr. Ford

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from now on in his dealings
with Congress.

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NARRATOR:
Ford needs help.

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He brings in Donald Rumsfeld
as his new Chief of Staff.

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Rumsfeld then hires
a 33 year-old Dick Cheney

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as his second in command.

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CHENEY:
I'd gone from being
the assistant to Rumsfeld,

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and all of a sudden
I'm the number two

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and the Deputy Chief of Staff
of the White House.

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I'm 33 years old.

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Based on Rumsfeld's word,

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Gerry Ford immediately
gave me his approval.

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Working for Ford
I got a much closer post

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from which to observe
the presidency

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and all the pressures
that are exerted on a president

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and decisions
that needed to be made.

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HAYES:
One day Ford would have
a note sent to Cheney

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that said, "Can you schedule
my haircut?"

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And the next day
it would say,

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"What's the status
on our nukes?"

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NARRATOR:
The first task
Cheney and Rumsfeld face

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is restoring the authority
of the president.

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Congress is demanding
that Ford appear on Capitol Hill

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to explain his pardon
of Nixon.

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Rumsfeld and other staffers
plead with Ford

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not to go to Congress.

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INTERVIEWER:
What was the risk
of his going to Congress?

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Uh, precedent it sets.

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Um... One of the things
you have to be aware of

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and sensitive to, I think,
as president

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is that the things you do,
um...are important

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not only for the here and now,

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but they oftentimes can have
an impact long-term.

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DEFRANK:
You would not expect a leader
of the executive branch

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to go, in effect,
hat in hand

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to the legislative branch
and answer their questions,

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but Ford thought
that was important

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and he overruled Rumsfeld
and he overruled Cheney.

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NARRATOR:
Just one month after joining
the Ford White House,

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Cheney watches from the gallery
as the president

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is humbled by Congress.

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CONGRESSMAN:
I'm wondering,
if after all that has happened

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and with further opportunity
for reflection,

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if you do not now feel that
you perhaps acted too hastily

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in this case.

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FORD:
I was absolutely
convinced then,

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as I am now,
that if we had had

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an indictment, a trial,
a conviction,

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that the attention of
the president, the Congress,

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and the American people
would have been diverted

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from the problems
we have to solve.

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MANN:
Ford's testimony is one
of the very first instances

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where Cheney sees the impact of
and objects to

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Congressional intrusions
on presidential power.

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CHENEY:
I think there's no question
that those days after Watergate

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the presidency was in
a weakened condition.

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Congress sort of moved
aggressively into the vacuum

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that had been filled by that.

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SUSKIND:
Rumsfeld and Cheney develop
a kind of autonomy

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and also a kind of leverage
over others.

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NARRATOR:
Behind their backs,
members of the administration

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begin calling
Cheney and Rumsfeld

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the Praetorian Guard,

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referring to elite soldiers
in ancient Rome

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who protected the emperor
but also wielded

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tremendous power themselves.

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RUMSFELD:
There was a lot of tension
between the Ford staff

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and the, uh,
Nixon White House staff

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which President Ford
had decided to keep.

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Rumsfeld and Cheney
often knocked heads

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with Henry Kissinger.

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Henry had two hats.

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He was the Secretary of State

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and he was the National
Security Advisor.

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DEFRANK:
Kissinger was larger than life
and Ford deferred to him.

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NARRATOR:
But Cheney and Rumsfeld
distrust Kissinger

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because they consider him soft
on the Soviet Union.

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DEFRANK:
Rumsfeld and Cheney
were also maneuvering

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against several other people.

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CHENEY:
I did not have
a close relationship

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with Vice President
Rockefeller,

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he and I were hostile,
I was the young kid,

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uh, half his age.

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DEFRANK:
There was a feeling
Rockefeller was probably

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00:24:04,290 --> 00:24:06,750
too liberal for Republicans.

481
00:24:06,750 --> 00:24:09,040
HAYWARD:
He had lots of ideas
for new social programs

482
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,541
like the ones that he had done
in New York as governor.

483
00:24:12,541 --> 00:24:16,541
CHENEY:
Rockefeller believed I was the
guy shooting down his proposals,

484
00:24:16,541 --> 00:24:18,583
which to some extent I was.

485
00:24:18,583 --> 00:24:21,125
NARRATOR:
The internal conflicts
come to a head

486
00:24:21,125 --> 00:24:23,916
just as the presidential
primary campaign begins.

487
00:24:23,916 --> 00:24:26,458
All governments are going
to have to reduce

488
00:24:26,458 --> 00:24:28,000
government's appetite,

489
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,458
and let the people have a little
more of their own money

490
00:24:30,458 --> 00:24:32,083
in their pockets to spend
as they see fit,

491
00:24:32,083 --> 00:24:34,375
or this system of ours
isn't going to work any longer.

492
00:24:34,375 --> 00:24:36,916
NARRATOR:
Ford, still reeling
from his pardon of Nixon,

493
00:24:36,916 --> 00:24:40,250
is vulnerable to a primary
challenge from Ronald Reagan,

494
00:24:40,250 --> 00:24:41,916
the popular
and deeply conservative

495
00:24:41,916 --> 00:24:43,583
former governor of California.

496
00:24:43,583 --> 00:24:46,333
And you don't discipline
an irresponsible Congress

497
00:24:46,333 --> 00:24:49,083
by putting an indulgent friend
in the White House.

498
00:24:49,083 --> 00:24:52,834
NARRATOR:
Rumsfeld and Cheney
are determined to shore up

499
00:24:52,834 --> 00:24:55,125
the Republican base by pushing
the moderate president

500
00:24:55,125 --> 00:24:57,208
further to the right.

501
00:24:57,208 --> 00:25:00,583
RUMSFELD:
We thought the president
needed to make some changes

502
00:25:00,583 --> 00:25:04,666
that he had been slow
in arriving at.

503
00:25:04,666 --> 00:25:06,458
CHENEY:
Rumsfeld and I,

504
00:25:06,458 --> 00:25:08,416
we wrote a lengthy memo
to the president,

505
00:25:08,416 --> 00:25:11,458
that recommended
a lot of changes.

506
00:25:11,458 --> 00:25:13,208
NARRATOR:
Over the course
of three days,

507
00:25:13,208 --> 00:25:16,125
Cheney and Rumsfeld engineer
what comes to be known

508
00:25:16,125 --> 00:25:17,959
as The Halloween Massacre.

509
00:25:17,959 --> 00:25:23,541
SUSKIND:
They knock out the core staff
of the Ford administration.

510
00:25:23,541 --> 00:25:26,040
NARRATOR:
Henry Kissinger is forced
to give up his duties

511
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,959
as National Security Advisor.

512
00:25:27,959 --> 00:25:31,541
CHENEY:
You got a guy who's dominant
in the Nixon administration

513
00:25:31,541 --> 00:25:33,583
and who had survived all that,

514
00:25:33,583 --> 00:25:36,541
but he's running your foreign
policy so you needed to,

515
00:25:36,541 --> 00:25:39,875
to mix things up a bit there.
So he went down.

516
00:25:39,875 --> 00:25:43,165
SUSKIND:
They as well kneecapped
Nelson Rockefeller,

517
00:25:43,165 --> 00:25:45,791
the vice president.

518
00:25:45,791 --> 00:25:50,333
NARRATOR:
Rockefeller announces he will
not run for election in 1976.

519
00:25:52,165 --> 00:25:54,625
Secretary of Defense
James Schlesinger

520
00:25:54,625 --> 00:25:56,040
is removed from office.

521
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,916
REPORTER:
Were you fired
or did you quit?

522
00:25:57,916 --> 00:26:00,208
SCHLESINGER:
I have no comment to make.

523
00:26:00,208 --> 00:26:04,000
NARRATOR:
Cheney and Rumsfeld
have two more moves to make.

524
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:09,250
Ford names Rumsfeld as the new
Secretary of Defense.

525
00:26:09,250 --> 00:26:11,083
And at the age of 34,

526
00:26:11,083 --> 00:26:14,000
Dick Cheney becomes the youngest
White House Chief of Staff

527
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,916
in American history.

528
00:26:15,916 --> 00:26:19,666
INTERVIEWER:
Pretty sophisticated series
of chess moves.

529
00:26:19,666 --> 00:26:20,916
Mm-hm.

530
00:26:23,625 --> 00:26:25,875
Right.

531
00:26:25,875 --> 00:26:30,375
That first, you know,
major turning moment

532
00:26:30,375 --> 00:26:33,416
in my life
was the summer of '63.

533
00:26:33,416 --> 00:26:35,250
12 years later
I'm Chief of Staff,

534
00:26:35,250 --> 00:26:36,875
the youngest one in history.

535
00:26:36,875 --> 00:26:40,208
So that was a... It was a
major transformation obviously

536
00:26:40,208 --> 00:26:44,666
from, uh, where I had been
12 years before.

537
00:26:44,666 --> 00:26:47,916
HAYES:
He said to me he didn't spend
a lot of time thinking about it,

538
00:26:47,916 --> 00:26:49,791
that he had a job to do
and things were in front of him,

539
00:26:49,791 --> 00:26:51,541
but one would imagine

540
00:26:51,541 --> 00:26:53,375
if you're Chief of Staff
of the White House,

541
00:26:53,375 --> 00:26:55,000
and you're in your mid 30's,

542
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,208
that's a moment where
you do take some time to stop

543
00:26:57,208 --> 00:26:58,458
and sort of reflect and say,

544
00:26:58,458 --> 00:27:01,875
you know,
this is a big moment.

545
00:27:01,875 --> 00:27:04,583
NARRATOR:
But Cheney's rise to power
is just beginning.

546
00:27:04,583 --> 00:27:06,875
[♪]

547
00:27:06,875 --> 00:27:09,000
After serving
in the Ford White House,

548
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,834
Cheney goes on to represent
Wyoming in Congress

549
00:27:11,834 --> 00:27:13,083
for ten years.

550
00:27:13,083 --> 00:27:15,290
Mr. Speaker,
this bill is a turkey

551
00:27:15,290 --> 00:27:16,791
and I would urge its defeat.

552
00:27:16,791 --> 00:27:19,083
NORMAN ORNSTEIN:
It didn't take a lot of insight

553
00:27:19,083 --> 00:27:22,250
to figure that Dick Cheney
was gonna make his mark.

554
00:27:22,250 --> 00:27:24,916
In the opinion of the chair,
the ayes have it

555
00:27:24,916 --> 00:27:27,916
and Mr. Cheney is elected
Minority Whip.

556
00:27:27,916 --> 00:27:29,500
[APPLAUSE]

557
00:27:29,500 --> 00:27:30,834
NARRATOR:
He quickly ascends

558
00:27:30,834 --> 00:27:32,791
to the Republican
Congressional Leadership.

559
00:27:32,791 --> 00:27:34,834
As a member of
the Intelligence Committee,

560
00:27:34,834 --> 00:27:37,290
he masters the complexities
of national security

561
00:27:37,290 --> 00:27:39,583
and international relations.

562
00:27:39,583 --> 00:27:41,416
And when Ronald Reagan
comes under fire

563
00:27:41,416 --> 00:27:44,375
for the covert operations
known as Iran Contra,

564
00:27:44,375 --> 00:27:45,625
Representative Cheney's

565
00:27:45,625 --> 00:27:47,583
expertise in
the intelligence world,

566
00:27:47,583 --> 00:27:49,791
helps him gain the position
of ranking member

567
00:27:49,791 --> 00:27:52,875
of the committee investigating
the president's actions.

568
00:27:52,875 --> 00:27:55,040
CHENEY:
In my opinion
there is no justification

569
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,333
for further restrictions on
the power of future presidents.

570
00:27:58,333 --> 00:28:02,625
NARRATOR:
The Iran Contra hearings make
Dick Cheney a household name.

571
00:28:02,625 --> 00:28:06,208
In 1989, after George H. W. Bush
is elected president,

572
00:28:06,208 --> 00:28:09,791
he asks Cheney to serve
as his Secretary of Defense.

573
00:28:09,791 --> 00:28:12,834
There are 92 yayes
and no nays,

574
00:28:12,834 --> 00:28:14,709
the nomination of
Richard B. Cheney

575
00:28:14,709 --> 00:28:17,208
to be Secretary of Defense
is confirmed.

576
00:28:17,208 --> 00:28:19,541
NARRATOR:
Two years later,
Cheney leads efforts

577
00:28:19,541 --> 00:28:22,040
to build a multinational
coalition to fight Iraq

578
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,625
in the Persian Gulf War.

579
00:28:23,625 --> 00:28:25,416
CHENEY:
We did exactly
what we set out to do.

580
00:28:25,416 --> 00:28:29,250
We liberated Kuwait,
and we destroyed the vast bulk

581
00:28:29,250 --> 00:28:32,333
of Saddam Hussein's offensive
military capability.

582
00:28:32,333 --> 00:28:33,666
MARIO CUOMO:
Mr. Secretary,

583
00:28:33,666 --> 00:28:35,333
you managed
an immense enterprise

584
00:28:35,333 --> 00:28:36,834
with startling success,

585
00:28:36,834 --> 00:28:38,583
a military and civilian
defense system

586
00:28:38,583 --> 00:28:40,709
without equal in history.

587
00:28:40,709 --> 00:28:41,959
[CHEERING]

588
00:28:41,959 --> 00:28:43,666
BILL CLINTON:
On this day,

589
00:28:43,666 --> 00:28:48,000
the American people have voted
to make a new beginning.

590
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,541
NARRATOR:
When George H. W. Bush
loses his bid for re-election,

591
00:28:51,541 --> 00:28:53,666
Cheney finds himself
out of a job.

592
00:28:53,666 --> 00:28:55,625
But he has his eye
on a new one.

593
00:28:55,625 --> 00:28:58,000
President of the United States.

594
00:29:00,750 --> 00:29:03,333
He drives thousands of miles
crisscrossing the country,

595
00:29:03,333 --> 00:29:05,500
trying to drum up support.

596
00:29:05,500 --> 00:29:07,458
CHENEY:
I spent a lot of time
on the road.

597
00:29:07,458 --> 00:29:12,666
I thought that I was qualified
by background and experience

598
00:29:12,666 --> 00:29:15,416
to do the job.
I mean, I believed I,

599
00:29:15,416 --> 00:29:18,125
that I could function
effectively as president.

600
00:29:18,125 --> 00:29:20,500
DEFRANK:
He did all the things
you're supposed to do.

601
00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:22,165
You raise a little money,

602
00:29:22,165 --> 00:29:24,290
you form a political
action committee,

603
00:29:24,290 --> 00:29:26,500
you put out feelers.

604
00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:29,208
ANNOUNCER:
Ladies and gentlemen,
Dick Cheney.

605
00:29:29,208 --> 00:29:31,040
CHENEY:
Part of that was to assess

606
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,083
that basic question
about my willingness to do

607
00:29:34,083 --> 00:29:36,709
what I would have to do,
and no guarantee you're gonna--

608
00:29:36,709 --> 00:29:38,083
You can't just say
"I'm gonna run"

609
00:29:38,083 --> 00:29:39,875
and expect to get elected.

610
00:29:39,875 --> 00:29:41,750
REPORTER:
Are you testing
the Iowa waters?

611
00:29:41,750 --> 00:29:43,416
I'm out all across
the country this year,

612
00:29:43,416 --> 00:29:45,541
because it's a campaign year,
helping the party,

613
00:29:45,541 --> 00:29:47,375
helping candidates
and tonight I have the--

614
00:29:47,375 --> 00:29:49,834
BARTON GELLMAN:
He is not good
at retail politics,

615
00:29:49,834 --> 00:29:53,083
and more importantly
he doesn't like it.

616
00:29:53,083 --> 00:29:55,791
NARRATOR:
Cheney never garners more than
three percent support

617
00:29:55,791 --> 00:29:57,416
in pre-election polls.

618
00:29:57,416 --> 00:30:00,250
His fundraising lags far behind
other contenders,

619
00:30:00,250 --> 00:30:02,750
like Pat Buchanan,
Lamar Alexander,

620
00:30:02,750 --> 00:30:05,290
and the eventual nominee,
Bob Dole.

621
00:30:05,290 --> 00:30:09,125
CHENEY:
I put out about a one word,
two word press release,

622
00:30:09,125 --> 00:30:11,541
uh, thanking my supporters
for their interest

623
00:30:11,541 --> 00:30:12,916
and saying
I'd made a decision

624
00:30:12,916 --> 00:30:15,916
not to be a candidate,
thank you very much.

625
00:30:15,916 --> 00:30:19,666
NARRATOR:
Cheney realizes he will
never be elected president.

626
00:30:19,666 --> 00:30:23,125
He retires to private life,
accepting a job as CEO

627
00:30:23,125 --> 00:30:26,165
of Halliburton,
a multinational oil company.

628
00:30:26,165 --> 00:30:29,165
CHENEY:
I did that for five years
and I was very happy doing it.

629
00:30:29,165 --> 00:30:33,416
We had over 100,000 employees
over 100 countries

630
00:30:33,416 --> 00:30:34,416
around the world,

631
00:30:34,416 --> 00:30:36,541
and we were involved
in a wide range

632
00:30:36,541 --> 00:30:39,625
of basically
energy-based activities.

633
00:30:39,625 --> 00:30:44,165
Dad was a religious consumer of
information about the company.

634
00:30:44,165 --> 00:30:47,208
He said to my brother one day,
showed him the annual report

635
00:30:47,208 --> 00:30:49,541
and said, "Look at that,
can you imagine what

636
00:30:49,541 --> 00:30:51,416
they're paying the kid?"

637
00:30:51,416 --> 00:30:56,333
That's...that was his take
on my time at Halliburton.

638
00:30:56,333 --> 00:30:58,625
Cheney really never
extinguished

639
00:30:58,625 --> 00:31:00,666
his political ambitions.

640
00:31:00,666 --> 00:31:04,416
He always said he did,
maybe in his own mind he did.

641
00:31:04,416 --> 00:31:06,959
But, you know, once
you're a political animal,

642
00:31:06,959 --> 00:31:10,959
you know where the big seat
in the zoo is

643
00:31:10,959 --> 00:31:13,834
and it's being president
of the United States.

644
00:31:13,834 --> 00:31:17,709
CROWD [CHANTING]:
We want Bush! We want Bush!

645
00:31:17,709 --> 00:31:21,165
ANNOUNCER:
We are proud to introduce you
today to the future president

646
00:31:21,165 --> 00:31:26,165
of this great nation,
Governor George W. Bush.

647
00:31:26,165 --> 00:31:27,834
NARRATOR:
In the summer of 2000,

648
00:31:27,834 --> 00:31:30,666
Texas Governor George W. Bush
becomes the presumptive

649
00:31:30,666 --> 00:31:32,916
Republican nominee
for president.

650
00:31:32,916 --> 00:31:35,500
GEORGE W. BUSH:
I'm looking forward to working
my heart out

651
00:31:35,500 --> 00:31:37,000
for the next four months.

652
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,709
Four months till we rid
this nation of Clinton-Gore.

653
00:31:39,709 --> 00:31:41,583
Four months.

654
00:31:41,583 --> 00:31:43,750
NARRATOR:
Bush faces a tough election
against incumbent

655
00:31:43,750 --> 00:31:45,834
vice president Al Gore.

656
00:31:45,834 --> 00:31:47,834
Questions are being raised
about the Governor's

657
00:31:47,834 --> 00:31:49,583
foreign policy experience.

658
00:31:49,583 --> 00:31:51,458
REPORTER:
Prime Minister of India?

659
00:31:51,458 --> 00:31:58,040
Uh, the new Prime Minister
of India is uh...uh, no.

660
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,875
NARRATOR:
Bush needs to reassure voters

661
00:31:59,875 --> 00:32:02,000
worried about
his limited resume.

662
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,709
His choice of a running mate
is a chance to put

663
00:32:04,709 --> 00:32:06,040
those concerns to rest.

664
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,250
Former Secretary Dick Cheney

665
00:32:08,250 --> 00:32:10,165
is gonna head
my vice presidential

666
00:32:10,165 --> 00:32:11,666
search committee.

667
00:32:11,666 --> 00:32:13,875
NARRATOR:
Bush asks Cheney
to be considered

668
00:32:13,875 --> 00:32:15,583
as a vice presidential
candidate.

669
00:32:15,583 --> 00:32:17,040
Cheney says no.

670
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,250
CHENEY:
I had seen the unpleasantness.

671
00:32:20,250 --> 00:32:22,541
A number of other
vice presidents had

672
00:32:22,541 --> 00:32:23,916
had negative experiences.

673
00:32:23,916 --> 00:32:25,916
Gerry Ford always told me,
he said,

674
00:32:25,916 --> 00:32:27,541
the worst job he ever had
in his life,

675
00:32:27,541 --> 00:32:28,709
the worst eight months
of his life

676
00:32:28,709 --> 00:32:30,208
was when he was
vice president

677
00:32:30,208 --> 00:32:32,000
of the United States,
he hated the job.

678
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,834
Cheney was happy in his new life
at Halliburton,

679
00:32:34,834 --> 00:32:37,625
he had lots on his mind,
lots still to do,

680
00:32:37,625 --> 00:32:40,165
uh, and was not looking
for the job.

681
00:32:40,165 --> 00:32:42,375
NARRATOR:
But Cheney does agree
to help Bush

682
00:32:42,375 --> 00:32:44,416
with the vice presidential
search.

683
00:32:44,416 --> 00:32:48,916
I'm honored he would take time
out of his busy life to do so.

684
00:32:48,916 --> 00:32:50,916
I can't think of a better
person to do it,

685
00:32:50,916 --> 00:32:52,416
he's a man of
enormous experience,

686
00:32:52,416 --> 00:32:54,125
and I'd be glad to answer
a few questions on him.

687
00:32:54,125 --> 00:32:56,625
REPORTER:
Does this mean
he is not a candidate?

688
00:32:56,625 --> 00:32:59,165
Assume, rule him out?

689
00:32:59,165 --> 00:33:02,583
That's a very
interesting question.

690
00:33:02,583 --> 00:33:06,208
CHENEY:
It started with a list
of dozens of people,

691
00:33:06,208 --> 00:33:09,625
all the Republican governors
and all the Republican senators.

692
00:33:09,625 --> 00:33:12,375
Virtually anybody
that you could conceive of

693
00:33:12,375 --> 00:33:15,625
as a prospective candidate
and then we narrowed that down.

694
00:33:15,625 --> 00:33:20,458
GELLMAN:
He began devising what
everybody involved described as

695
00:33:20,458 --> 00:33:23,458
the most comprehensive,
most intrusive

696
00:33:23,458 --> 00:33:26,709
vetting process ever used.

697
00:33:26,709 --> 00:33:28,750
CHENEY:
We wanted ten years
of tax returns,

698
00:33:28,750 --> 00:33:30,709
we wanted, uh,
their health records.

699
00:33:30,709 --> 00:33:33,916
We wanted to know if they'd ever
been involved in any kind

700
00:33:33,916 --> 00:33:36,625
of scrape that might be an
embarrassment to the president.

701
00:33:36,625 --> 00:33:40,000
GELLMAN:
Since he didn't trust anyone
to give all the records,

702
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,290
he made them sign waivers
and powers of attorney.

703
00:33:42,290 --> 00:33:45,333
It was a pretty exhaustive
proposition.

704
00:33:45,333 --> 00:33:47,500
I'm not sure I would have gone
through all of that

705
00:33:47,500 --> 00:33:49,625
if I'd been asked.

706
00:33:49,625 --> 00:33:51,875
GELLMAN:
He would meet from time
to time with Bush,

707
00:33:51,875 --> 00:33:54,125
tell him, here's what we found
on Lamar Alexander,

708
00:33:54,125 --> 00:33:55,959
here's what we found
on Frank Keating.

709
00:33:55,959 --> 00:33:57,625
Pretty much every time,

710
00:33:57,625 --> 00:34:00,125
you're coming up with something
that raises an eyebrow

711
00:34:00,125 --> 00:34:02,416
and makes you worry
a little bit.

712
00:34:02,416 --> 00:34:04,040
NARRATOR:
During these meetings,

713
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,250
Bush describes what he wants
from a running mate.

714
00:34:06,250 --> 00:34:08,333
He knew what he wanted
and what he was looking for

715
00:34:08,333 --> 00:34:10,791
and that was somebody who could
be a part of the team

716
00:34:10,791 --> 00:34:12,500
to help him govern.

717
00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:15,416
GELLMAN:
I can't tell you for sure
when he started seeing

718
00:34:15,416 --> 00:34:17,000
a vice president
in the mirror,

719
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,583
but one of the key things
that Cheney did

720
00:34:19,583 --> 00:34:23,166
was to tell Bush stories
about problems

721
00:34:23,166 --> 00:34:26,000
between presidents
and vice presidents.

722
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,000
And the key feature that
he described was a conflict

723
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,958
involving the ambition
of the number two guy.

724
00:34:32,958 --> 00:34:36,750
He painted a portrait
of ambition as sort of

725
00:34:36,750 --> 00:34:38,541
latent disloyalty.

726
00:34:38,541 --> 00:34:40,166
If you get a guy
who wants the job,

727
00:34:40,166 --> 00:34:43,166
he's already
halfway disqualified.

728
00:34:43,166 --> 00:34:44,916
And at the same time
Cheney is telling Bush,

729
00:34:44,916 --> 00:34:47,208
"No, I don't want it."

730
00:34:47,208 --> 00:34:50,708
Uh, the more he runs away,
the more Bush is pursuing him.

731
00:34:50,708 --> 00:34:53,875
CHENEY:
We got all through,
we ended up down in Texas.

732
00:34:53,875 --> 00:34:56,083
We'd evaluated everybody,

733
00:34:56,083 --> 00:34:57,916
we'd reviewed
all the candidates.

734
00:34:57,916 --> 00:34:59,541
He looked up at me, he said,

735
00:34:59,541 --> 00:35:01,583
"You're the solution
to my problem."

736
00:35:01,583 --> 00:35:04,375
The reason I finally said yes
was because I was convinced

737
00:35:04,375 --> 00:35:08,875
he was deadly serious about it
being a consequential position.

738
00:35:08,875 --> 00:35:12,291
I, uh, took him seriously
in terms of the reasons why

739
00:35:12,291 --> 00:35:14,041
he said I was the guy he wanted,

740
00:35:14,041 --> 00:35:17,250
my background in national
security and defense.

741
00:35:17,250 --> 00:35:19,750
There was no piece of paper at
all, but that he'd make certain

742
00:35:19,750 --> 00:35:24,666
that I played a significant role
in his administration.

743
00:35:24,666 --> 00:35:27,375
GELLMAN:
Cheney did not submit himself
to the vetting,

744
00:35:27,375 --> 00:35:30,333
he did not produce business
records from Halliburton.

745
00:35:30,333 --> 00:35:34,458
He gave a substantial set
of financial documents

746
00:35:34,458 --> 00:35:36,416
for vetting,
and he gave them to George Bush

747
00:35:36,416 --> 00:35:38,416
and George Bush only.

748
00:35:38,416 --> 00:35:41,250
NARRATOR:
Cheney has amassed a long
history of cardiac problems.

749
00:35:41,250 --> 00:35:43,208
He has suffered
three heart attacks,

750
00:35:43,208 --> 00:35:45,750
his first one at age 37.

751
00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:47,208
But he does not provide Bush

752
00:35:47,208 --> 00:35:49,250
with a thorough
medical evaluation.

753
00:35:49,250 --> 00:35:51,375
CHENEY:
I'd been through
several crises,

754
00:35:51,375 --> 00:35:53,208
we'd managed each one.

755
00:35:53,208 --> 00:35:56,250
I'd adjusted to the fact
that I was mortal.

756
00:35:56,250 --> 00:35:59,583
I'd sort of pursued a policy
when I had a problem,

757
00:35:59,583 --> 00:36:03,208
another heart attack or crisis
of some kind, um,

758
00:36:03,208 --> 00:36:05,625
you go do what you gotta do
to fix it,

759
00:36:05,625 --> 00:36:07,916
get the best help and advice
you can,

760
00:36:07,916 --> 00:36:09,208
and then you get on with life.

761
00:36:09,208 --> 00:36:11,500
GELLMAN:
George Bush, he calls his Dad

762
00:36:11,500 --> 00:36:13,708
and says, "I'm thinking about
this guy, what do you think

763
00:36:13,708 --> 00:36:15,291
about his health?"

764
00:36:15,291 --> 00:36:17,458
His father advises him
to get a second opinion.

765
00:36:17,458 --> 00:36:20,125
George Bush calls up a guy
named Denton Cooley,

766
00:36:20,125 --> 00:36:22,333
he's a well-known heart surgeon
in Houston.

767
00:36:22,333 --> 00:36:23,833
He says,
"I'd like you to give

768
00:36:23,833 --> 00:36:25,625
a second opinion,
let's see what you think

769
00:36:25,625 --> 00:36:27,041
of Cheney's heart health."

770
00:36:27,041 --> 00:36:28,666
Well, Cooley gets on the phone

771
00:36:28,666 --> 00:36:30,291
and talks to Cheney's
own doctor.

772
00:36:30,291 --> 00:36:33,958
He did not actually
meet Cheney.

773
00:36:33,958 --> 00:36:36,250
He did not see
any of his paper records.

774
00:36:36,250 --> 00:36:39,125
Uh, and actually,
since he's a surgeon,

775
00:36:39,125 --> 00:36:41,833
he wasn't the right guy
to ask in the first place.

776
00:36:41,833 --> 00:36:43,625
Should have been
a medical cardiologist

777
00:36:43,625 --> 00:36:45,458
who reviewed those files.

778
00:36:45,458 --> 00:36:48,083
ANNOUNCER:
Please welcome the Governor
and Mrs. Bush

779
00:36:48,083 --> 00:36:50,750
and Secretary
and Mrs. Cheney.

780
00:36:50,750 --> 00:36:53,666
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

781
00:36:55,500 --> 00:36:57,875
I believe you're looking
at the next vice president

782
00:36:57,875 --> 00:37:01,333
of the United States.

783
00:37:01,333 --> 00:37:03,791
NARRATOR:
Bush's selection of Cheney
as his running mate

784
00:37:03,791 --> 00:37:05,750
immediately changes
public perceptions

785
00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:07,500
of the presidential candidate.

786
00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:10,333
VICTOR DAVIS HANSON:
Cheney was not
a flashy candidate,

787
00:37:10,333 --> 00:37:13,166
but yet he was experienced
and as a senior statesman

788
00:37:13,166 --> 00:37:16,000
he would add gravitas
to the ticket.

789
00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:22,625
ANNOUNCER:
Decision 2000, election month.

790
00:37:22,625 --> 00:37:25,333
All eyes on Florida
at this hour, Tim.

791
00:37:28,083 --> 00:37:29,375
NARRATOR:
On election night,

792
00:37:29,375 --> 00:37:32,041
Bush and Cheney
are on the brink of victory.

793
00:37:32,041 --> 00:37:36,416
CHENEY:
Election night was sort of
the ultimate contest

794
00:37:36,416 --> 00:37:38,875
in terms of probably being
the closest election

795
00:37:38,875 --> 00:37:40,833
in American history.

796
00:37:40,833 --> 00:37:44,541
NEWS ANCHOR 1:
Here we are
at 99 percent of the vote in.

797
00:37:44,541 --> 00:37:46,916
NEWS ANCHOR 2:
11... That means
automatic recount.

798
00:37:46,916 --> 00:37:48,708
NEWS ANCHOR 1:
Yeah.

799
00:37:48,708 --> 00:37:51,375
That isn't under, no.

800
00:37:51,375 --> 00:37:53,458
Well, I'm seeing nothing
on these.

801
00:37:53,458 --> 00:37:56,000
It's... It's
slightly detached.

802
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,791
CHENEY:
They kept recounting,

803
00:37:57,791 --> 00:37:59,541
but every time they recounted
we still won.

804
00:37:59,541 --> 00:38:02,500
Ultimately it got
into the courts.

805
00:38:02,500 --> 00:38:04,958
NARRATOR:
While the legal battles
and the recount drag on,

806
00:38:04,958 --> 00:38:06,375
Cheney takes action.

807
00:38:06,375 --> 00:38:09,000
CHENEY:
We finally went back
to Washington

808
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,791
and we announced that I was
gonna be in charge

809
00:38:10,791 --> 00:38:12,125
of the transition.

810
00:38:12,125 --> 00:38:14,416
CROWD:
Let us in! Let us in!

811
00:38:14,416 --> 00:38:16,166
JO BECKER:
We will all remember these times

812
00:38:16,166 --> 00:38:18,750
as some of the most critical
and defining moments

813
00:38:18,750 --> 00:38:20,208
in our nation's history.

814
00:38:20,208 --> 00:38:22,875
During the deadlocked
2000 election,

815
00:38:22,875 --> 00:38:24,916
one would think that
Vice President Cheney

816
00:38:24,916 --> 00:38:26,500
would be glued
to the television

817
00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:30,208
because there were literally
developments every day.

818
00:38:30,208 --> 00:38:33,500
Instead, actually,
he was at his home in Virginia

819
00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:36,583
and what he was doing was
putting together the government

820
00:38:36,583 --> 00:38:41,125
in the event that the recount
turned out in their favor.

821
00:38:41,125 --> 00:38:45,166
It's not only unusual that
Cheney ran this transition,

822
00:38:45,166 --> 00:38:46,583
it's unprecedented.

823
00:38:46,583 --> 00:38:50,250
Vice presidents,
they don't run things.

824
00:38:50,250 --> 00:38:53,166
CHENEY:
One of your most important
responsibilities

825
00:38:53,166 --> 00:38:55,916
is to put together a government,
to pick really good people.

826
00:38:55,916 --> 00:38:59,041
An awful lot of presidents
find that very difficult to do.

827
00:38:59,041 --> 00:39:00,791
And government's so big,
and they've got

828
00:39:00,791 --> 00:39:03,458
so many relationships,
that they, um,

829
00:39:03,458 --> 00:39:05,708
sometimes they like to hang on
to old relationships

830
00:39:05,708 --> 00:39:07,125
that are no longer relevant.

831
00:39:09,791 --> 00:39:12,875
GELLMAN:
George Bush is very limited
in his Washington experience.

832
00:39:12,875 --> 00:39:15,083
He doesn't know
the kinds of people

833
00:39:15,083 --> 00:39:18,083
who are going to fill jobs
like Office of Legal Counsel.

834
00:39:18,083 --> 00:39:19,791
Cheney knows those people.

835
00:39:19,791 --> 00:39:23,875
Most of the friends of George
did not make the cut.

836
00:39:23,875 --> 00:39:26,833
Cheney didn't say to Bush,
"You can't have that,"

837
00:39:26,833 --> 00:39:30,708
it's just that he started
bringing him other people.

838
00:39:30,708 --> 00:39:33,125
NARRATOR:
Cheney names Scooter Libby,
his former aide

839
00:39:33,125 --> 00:39:36,125
at the Defense Department,
as his Chief of Staff.

840
00:39:36,125 --> 00:39:38,791
GELLMAN:
He shares Cheney's philosophy.

841
00:39:38,791 --> 00:39:42,041
He is able to cut
to the heart of issues.

842
00:39:42,041 --> 00:39:44,833
He is sometimes described
as Cheney's Cheney.

843
00:39:44,833 --> 00:39:47,791
NARRATOR:
Cheney taps David Addington,
who has worked with him

844
00:39:47,791 --> 00:39:49,958
since the Iran Contra
investigation,

845
00:39:49,958 --> 00:39:51,375
as his legal counsel.

846
00:39:51,375 --> 00:39:53,166
ADDINGTON:
Having worked with him before,

847
00:39:53,166 --> 00:39:55,583
he could be confident
in my abilities,

848
00:39:55,583 --> 00:39:58,000
and importantly with
Dick Cheney, my discretion.

849
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,958
NARRATOR:
And Cheney persuades his mentor
and dear friend Donald Rumsfeld

850
00:40:01,958 --> 00:40:05,000
to take the job
of Secretary of Defense.

851
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,916
It was a surprise,
no one was more surprised

852
00:40:07,916 --> 00:40:10,958
than Don Rumsfeld that
he ended up back in government

853
00:40:10,958 --> 00:40:13,541
and at that advanced age.

854
00:40:13,541 --> 00:40:15,291
CHENEY:
We'd kept up over the years

855
00:40:15,291 --> 00:40:18,458
and when it was time to pick
a Secretary of Defense,

856
00:40:18,458 --> 00:40:21,500
I was convinced Rumsfeld
was the...the right guy.

857
00:40:21,500 --> 00:40:24,625
DEFRANK:
The protege became,
in effect,

858
00:40:24,625 --> 00:40:27,583
the mentor to the mentor.

859
00:40:27,583 --> 00:40:30,000
GELLMAN:
He doesn't stop there,
he goes to the deputies,

860
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,666
he goes to
the assistant secretaries,

861
00:40:31,666 --> 00:40:33,750
he goes three,
four levels down.

862
00:40:33,750 --> 00:40:36,333
BECKER:
There were people
in the Interior department

863
00:40:36,333 --> 00:40:38,875
at sort of these more
mid-level kind of jobs.

864
00:40:38,875 --> 00:40:41,625
MASSIMO CALABRESI:
It made him very influential
and powerful

865
00:40:41,625 --> 00:40:43,208
throughout the bureaucracy,

866
00:40:43,208 --> 00:40:45,583
in particular when decisions
came to the level

867
00:40:45,583 --> 00:40:47,208
of the president.

868
00:40:47,208 --> 00:40:49,375
SUSKIND:
Did George W. Bush
know what he was getting?

869
00:40:49,375 --> 00:40:52,375
How thoroughly overmatched
he was

870
00:40:52,375 --> 00:40:55,500
by the team that was assembled
around him?

871
00:40:55,500 --> 00:40:58,166
PETER JENNINGS:
Good evening. I'll make it
quick and simple,

872
00:40:58,166 --> 00:40:59,750
the Supreme Court
of the United States

873
00:40:59,750 --> 00:41:02,791
has reversed the decision
of the Florida Supreme Court.

874
00:41:02,791 --> 00:41:04,708
This effectively
ends the election.

875
00:41:04,708 --> 00:41:06,458
It has ended the election
and literally...

876
00:41:06,458 --> 00:41:08,333
NARRATOR:
Six weeks after the election,

877
00:41:08,333 --> 00:41:11,666
the Supreme Court puts an end
to the recount in Florida.

878
00:41:11,666 --> 00:41:13,916
Bush and Cheney win.

879
00:41:13,916 --> 00:41:16,333
CHENEY:
There were a lot of people
who didn't like the outcome.

880
00:41:16,333 --> 00:41:18,416
Gore had won the popular vote,

881
00:41:18,416 --> 00:41:20,333
but we'd won
the Electoral College,

882
00:41:20,333 --> 00:41:23,500
and, uh, that's what
the Constitution provides for.

883
00:41:25,916 --> 00:41:28,750
INTERVIEWER:
So do you remember
walking into the White House

884
00:41:28,750 --> 00:41:32,916
as vice president
on January 20th, 2001?

885
00:41:32,916 --> 00:41:34,583
I do.

886
00:41:34,583 --> 00:41:37,625
When I'd first arrived there
back in 1968,

887
00:41:37,625 --> 00:41:40,458
I was one of the youngest people
in the West Wing,

888
00:41:40,458 --> 00:41:43,625
and this time around
I was the oldest.

889
00:41:43,625 --> 00:41:46,708
BECKER:
When the vice president
first came in,

890
00:41:46,708 --> 00:41:49,458
they were sort of contemplating
what role would he take,

891
00:41:49,458 --> 00:41:51,208
and they were sort of,
well, you know

892
00:41:51,208 --> 00:41:53,958
Vice President Gore had
a specific kind of portfolio

893
00:41:53,958 --> 00:41:57,458
involving government innovation
and some other things.

894
00:41:57,458 --> 00:42:01,208
Cheney was not particularly
warm to that kind of idea.

895
00:42:01,208 --> 00:42:03,458
He had the, the "Walk-In Rights"

896
00:42:03,458 --> 00:42:05,583
you might call them,
he could walk into any project,

897
00:42:05,583 --> 00:42:08,416
any meeting,
and do whatever he wanted.

898
00:42:08,416 --> 00:42:11,666
BECKER:
If you are a vice president
who is able to sit in

899
00:42:11,666 --> 00:42:14,708
on every meeting in
all of the kind of lead-up

900
00:42:14,708 --> 00:42:16,208
when that policy is shaped,

901
00:42:16,208 --> 00:42:18,625
you know, you're not only
the last word,

902
00:42:18,625 --> 00:42:20,958
last piece of advice,
but you've also shaped

903
00:42:20,958 --> 00:42:23,541
all of the options that are
being presented to him

904
00:42:23,541 --> 00:42:26,166
even before
they get to his desk.

905
00:42:26,166 --> 00:42:28,250
He was quite
disciplined, though.

906
00:42:28,250 --> 00:42:32,041
He picked what Mary Matalin,
one of his advisors called

907
00:42:32,041 --> 00:42:33,375
"The Iron Issues."

908
00:42:33,375 --> 00:42:35,708
The economy, national security,

909
00:42:35,708 --> 00:42:39,333
the core sort of areas
any president would care about.

910
00:42:39,333 --> 00:42:42,250
CHENEY:
Some would suggest
Cheney had his own agenda,

911
00:42:42,250 --> 00:42:45,000
Cheney was getting ready
to manipulate the process

912
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:50,000
so he could be president
of the United States. Not true.

913
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,333
POLICE [YELLING]:
Move! Let's go!

914
00:42:52,333 --> 00:42:55,833
[SIRENS]

915
00:42:55,833 --> 00:43:00,125
Move it! Get back!

916
00:43:00,125 --> 00:43:02,208
REPORTER:
Let's just get back!

917
00:43:02,208 --> 00:43:05,708
JAMES MANN:
On 9-11, it's Cheney
who's in charge.

918
00:43:05,708 --> 00:43:08,916
Bush has the humiliating
experience of being

919
00:43:08,916 --> 00:43:11,875
in a primary school classroom,

920
00:43:11,875 --> 00:43:14,416
he is physically out of it.

921
00:43:14,416 --> 00:43:16,958
CHENEY:
I was thinking about the threat
we were faced with,

922
00:43:16,958 --> 00:43:19,875
I was thinking about
what we had to do,

923
00:43:19,875 --> 00:43:21,875
on one hand, to preserve

924
00:43:21,875 --> 00:43:23,666
the legitimacy
of the government,

925
00:43:23,666 --> 00:43:25,708
to make certain
there were successors in line

926
00:43:25,708 --> 00:43:29,541
ready to go if the president
and I were taken out.

927
00:43:29,541 --> 00:43:32,583
There was an incoming aircraft
from the northwest,

928
00:43:32,583 --> 00:43:35,875
it was after the other three
had already struck.

929
00:43:35,875 --> 00:43:38,041
The question you had to ask
yourself was,

930
00:43:38,041 --> 00:43:40,375
if we had been able to take out
one of those airplanes

931
00:43:40,375 --> 00:43:41,666
headed for
the World Trade Center,

932
00:43:41,666 --> 00:43:42,666
would we have done it?

933
00:43:42,666 --> 00:43:46,833
And the answer was
absolutely yes.

934
00:43:46,833 --> 00:43:53,333
After I'd given the,
uh, order...it was pretty quiet.

935
00:43:53,333 --> 00:43:55,416
Everybody had heard it,

936
00:43:55,416 --> 00:43:59,708
and it obviously was
a significant moment.

937
00:43:59,708 --> 00:44:02,625
There was sort of this
collective groan in the room,

938
00:44:02,625 --> 00:44:04,791
and...but people who looked
over to see him

939
00:44:04,791 --> 00:44:10,416
said he was so controlled
and contained.

940
00:44:14,500 --> 00:44:17,375
CHENEY:
Later in the afternoon,
Lynne and I went out

941
00:44:17,375 --> 00:44:20,791
and got on a helicopter on the
south lawn at the White House

942
00:44:20,791 --> 00:44:25,875
and flew off to a secure
undisclosed location.

943
00:44:25,875 --> 00:44:29,083
ADDINGTON:
The only time
that the vice president

944
00:44:29,083 --> 00:44:31,166
has ever flown in a helicopter

945
00:44:31,166 --> 00:44:33,083
off the south lawn
of the White House.

946
00:44:33,083 --> 00:44:36,041
Presidents fly off
the White House lawn,

947
00:44:36,041 --> 00:44:38,791
vice presidents
don't do that.

948
00:44:38,791 --> 00:44:41,541
CHENEY:
Everything I'd seen
up till that point had been

949
00:44:41,541 --> 00:44:43,666
over television and so forth.

950
00:44:43,666 --> 00:44:45,875
Um, but when you fly over
the Pentagon

951
00:44:45,875 --> 00:44:47,541
and there's a big hole
in the side of it

952
00:44:47,541 --> 00:44:49,791
and all the signs
of the attack,

953
00:44:49,791 --> 00:44:52,458
and it's still smoking
from the damage

954
00:44:52,458 --> 00:44:53,791
that was done that morning,

955
00:44:53,791 --> 00:44:56,625
was a dramatic
sort of reinforcement

956
00:44:56,625 --> 00:45:00,791
of what we knew
was happening.

957
00:45:10,375 --> 00:45:13,875
I started thinking about
how we should respond,

958
00:45:13,875 --> 00:45:16,500
how can we bring to bear
the power and influence

959
00:45:16,500 --> 00:45:18,708
of the United States
to take down

960
00:45:18,708 --> 00:45:22,166
whoever had launched
this attack against us.

961
00:45:22,166 --> 00:45:25,000
CHENEY:
We all have to work
the dark side, if you will,

962
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,666
we're going to spend time
in the shadows

963
00:45:26,666 --> 00:45:28,333
in the intelligence world.

964
00:45:28,333 --> 00:45:30,000
A lot of what needs
to be done here

965
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,000
will have to be done quietly
without any discussion,

966
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,875
using sources and methods
that are available

967
00:45:35,875 --> 00:45:36,958
to our intelligence agencies.

968
00:45:36,958 --> 00:45:38,833
So it's going to be
vital for us

969
00:45:38,833 --> 00:45:41,333
to use any means
at our disposal, basically,

970
00:45:41,333 --> 00:45:43,291
to, uh, to achieve
our objective.

971
00:45:43,291 --> 00:45:50,333
I see 9-11 as a hinge
of history for Dick Cheney.

972
00:45:50,333 --> 00:45:53,916
I went to interview him
a month after 9-11,

973
00:45:53,916 --> 00:45:57,250
and it was a changed
Dick Cheney.

974
00:45:57,250 --> 00:46:01,916
ORNSTEIN:
You see an increasing
conviction that you cannot

975
00:46:01,916 --> 00:46:05,833
leave decisions that could be
existential ones

976
00:46:05,833 --> 00:46:09,791
for the United States
in the hands of Congress.

977
00:46:09,791 --> 00:46:11,666
In the face of a threat
of this sort,

978
00:46:11,666 --> 00:46:13,875
you couldn't have
some of the niceties

979
00:46:13,875 --> 00:46:17,541
or the same boundaries
that existed before.

980
00:46:17,541 --> 00:46:19,333
CHENEY:
It is a wartime situation,

981
00:46:19,333 --> 00:46:24,375
and it does require
tough programs and policies

982
00:46:24,375 --> 00:46:25,791
if you're gonna be successful.

983
00:46:25,791 --> 00:46:27,500
And it was more important
to be successful

984
00:46:27,500 --> 00:46:28,875
than it was to be loved.

985
00:46:33,916 --> 00:46:36,916
NARRATOR:
Less than a month after 9-11,
the U.S. launches attacks

986
00:46:36,916 --> 00:46:39,291
against Al Qaeda
and its Taliban allies

987
00:46:39,291 --> 00:46:42,083
in Afghanistan.

988
00:46:42,083 --> 00:46:44,791
CHENEY:
We began to capture members
of Al Qaeda

989
00:46:44,791 --> 00:46:47,916
with important information.

990
00:46:47,916 --> 00:46:51,333
BECKER:
As we began
rounding up suspects,

991
00:46:51,333 --> 00:46:53,708
the question was,
well, what do we do with them?

992
00:46:53,708 --> 00:46:56,500
We looked at all kinds
of options,

993
00:46:56,500 --> 00:47:00,416
and ended up recommending
Guantanamo Bay be used.

994
00:47:00,416 --> 00:47:03,166
NARRATOR:
The military base
at Guantanamo Bay

995
00:47:03,166 --> 00:47:06,791
is entirely on the territory
of Cuba, a hostile country.

996
00:47:06,791 --> 00:47:08,833
REPORTER:
Why use it,
why is it the best place?

997
00:47:08,833 --> 00:47:12,333
I would characterize
Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, um,

998
00:47:12,333 --> 00:47:16,333
as the least worst place
we could have selected.

999
00:47:16,333 --> 00:47:18,791
CHENEY:
We needed some place
to hold terrorists,

1000
00:47:18,791 --> 00:47:21,458
we didn't want to bring them
to the United States.

1001
00:47:21,458 --> 00:47:22,958
Once they were on U.S. soil,

1002
00:47:22,958 --> 00:47:26,500
they obtained many
of the same basic rights

1003
00:47:26,500 --> 00:47:28,750
that American citizens do.

1004
00:47:28,750 --> 00:47:30,958
I think it was March of '03
we actually captured

1005
00:47:30,958 --> 00:47:34,458
Khalid Shaikh Mohammed,
the mastermind of 9-11.

1006
00:47:34,458 --> 00:47:40,125
He had a wealth of information
if he were willing to share it.

1007
00:47:40,125 --> 00:47:44,041
BECKER:
There was a significant amount
of consideration about,

1008
00:47:44,041 --> 00:47:47,958
how could we interrogate
prisoners in such a way

1009
00:47:47,958 --> 00:47:51,375
as to not run afoul
of these Geneva Conventions.

1010
00:47:51,375 --> 00:47:54,791
MOVIE NARRATOR:
The Geneva Convention of 1949

1011
00:47:54,791 --> 00:47:58,458
authorizes inspection of camps
by neutrals, yet in...

1012
00:47:58,458 --> 00:48:01,083
BECKER:
The Geneva Conventions
are a protocol

1013
00:48:01,083 --> 00:48:03,583
which specifies
how prisoners of war

1014
00:48:03,583 --> 00:48:05,458
should be treated,
and most importantly

1015
00:48:05,458 --> 00:48:07,208
it prohibits the cruel

1016
00:48:07,208 --> 00:48:09,666
and inhumane treatment
of prisoners,

1017
00:48:09,666 --> 00:48:11,958
and in addition
to prohibiting torture.

1018
00:48:11,958 --> 00:48:14,166
NARRATOR:
Cheney's attorney,
David Addington

1019
00:48:14,166 --> 00:48:16,250
drafts an order stating
that these prisoners

1020
00:48:16,250 --> 00:48:18,708
are not subject
to the Geneva Conventions.

1021
00:48:18,708 --> 00:48:21,166
CHENEY:
The basic proposition
here is that somebody

1022
00:48:21,166 --> 00:48:23,791
who conducts
a terrorist operation,

1023
00:48:23,791 --> 00:48:25,708
killing thousands
of innocent Americans,

1024
00:48:25,708 --> 00:48:28,166
they don't deserve to be
treated as a prisoner of war,

1025
00:48:28,166 --> 00:48:31,208
they don't deserve the same
guarantees and safeguards

1026
00:48:31,208 --> 00:48:34,541
that would be used, uh,
for an American citizen

1027
00:48:34,541 --> 00:48:38,166
going through the normal,
uh, judicial process.

1028
00:48:38,166 --> 00:48:41,875
BECKER:
His office takes the lead
in getting the President

1029
00:48:41,875 --> 00:48:45,125
to essentially sign on
to an order in which he says,

1030
00:48:45,125 --> 00:48:48,708
"Well, we will treat
prisoners as much possible

1031
00:48:48,708 --> 00:48:51,125
in accordance with
the Geneva Conventions."

1032
00:48:51,125 --> 00:48:53,250
Which of course,
leaves, you know,

1033
00:48:53,250 --> 00:48:58,583
a huge hole that you can,
you know, run a truck through.

1034
00:48:58,583 --> 00:49:00,125
CHENEY:
Isolation in the cell,

1035
00:49:00,125 --> 00:49:03,291
or, um...loud music.

1036
00:49:03,291 --> 00:49:06,875
A face slap was allowed,
and had to be open-handed.

1037
00:49:06,875 --> 00:49:09,750
Um, you could push him up
against a wall,

1038
00:49:09,750 --> 00:49:12,666
there were certain things
like that.

1039
00:49:12,666 --> 00:49:15,375
Putting the individual
on an incline,

1040
00:49:15,375 --> 00:49:17,250
their head down lower
than their feet,

1041
00:49:17,250 --> 00:49:20,625
uh, putting a towel,
a towel over their face

1042
00:49:20,625 --> 00:49:24,583
and then pouring water slowly
on the towel.

1043
00:49:24,583 --> 00:49:28,708
It creates a sensation
of drowning.

1044
00:49:28,708 --> 00:49:30,291
RUMSFELD:
We've had successive

1045
00:49:30,291 --> 00:49:33,125
Central Intelligence Agency
Directors say that

1046
00:49:33,125 --> 00:49:37,291
the information gained
from those interrogations

1047
00:49:37,291 --> 00:49:40,791
produced a major amount
of the information

1048
00:49:40,791 --> 00:49:44,708
that we had about Al Qaeda.

1049
00:49:44,708 --> 00:49:48,000
DAVID COLE:
When you use these kind
of tactics

1050
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,291
against a, an individual,
uh, he will talk.

1051
00:49:51,291 --> 00:49:54,666
Whether he'll tell you the truth
or not is another matter.

1052
00:49:54,666 --> 00:49:58,083
Khalid Shaikh Mohammed
did not reveal any information

1053
00:49:58,083 --> 00:50:00,958
about an operational plot
coming to fruition,

1054
00:50:00,958 --> 00:50:03,000
and indeed the CIA
Inspector General

1055
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,166
found that nobody interrogated

1056
00:50:05,166 --> 00:50:07,208
under the enhanced
interrogation plans,

1057
00:50:07,208 --> 00:50:09,541
uh, coughed up information
that allowed us

1058
00:50:09,541 --> 00:50:12,708
to stop any ticking time bomb.

1059
00:50:12,708 --> 00:50:15,708
CHARLIE SAVAGE:
The idea of inflicting
suffering on a human being

1060
00:50:15,708 --> 00:50:17,958
in order to force them
to speak against their will,

1061
00:50:17,958 --> 00:50:23,125
was before 9-11, uh, an anathema
of the United States.

1062
00:50:23,125 --> 00:50:25,208
INTERVIEWER:
When you talk about
drawing the line,

1063
00:50:25,208 --> 00:50:29,250
uh, you don't consider
a prolonged period

1064
00:50:29,250 --> 00:50:31,958
of creating the sensation
of drowning,

1065
00:50:31,958 --> 00:50:33,958
you don't consider torture?

1066
00:50:33,958 --> 00:50:36,208
I don't.

1067
00:50:36,208 --> 00:50:38,791
Tell me what terrorist attacks
is that you would have

1068
00:50:38,791 --> 00:50:40,625
let go forward,

1069
00:50:40,625 --> 00:50:45,208
because you didn't want
to be a mean and nasty fellow.

1070
00:50:45,208 --> 00:50:48,375
Are you gonna trade the lives
of a number of people

1071
00:50:48,375 --> 00:50:51,750
because you want
to preserve your honor?

1072
00:50:51,750 --> 00:50:54,250
Or are you gonna do your job,

1073
00:50:54,250 --> 00:50:56,500
do what's required,
first and foremost,

1074
00:50:56,500 --> 00:51:00,041
your responsibility to safeguard
the United States of America

1075
00:51:00,041 --> 00:51:02,250
and the lives of its citizens.

1076
00:51:02,250 --> 00:51:05,250
Now, given a choice
between doing what we did,

1077
00:51:05,250 --> 00:51:08,125
or backing off and saying,
"Yeah, we know you know

1078
00:51:08,125 --> 00:51:10,333
the next attack
against the United States,

1079
00:51:10,333 --> 00:51:13,416
but we're not gonna force you
to tell us what it is,

1080
00:51:13,416 --> 00:51:17,791
because it might create
a bad image for us."

1081
00:51:17,791 --> 00:51:20,208
That's not a close call for me.

1082
00:51:24,583 --> 00:51:27,833
NARRATOR:
Cheney's desire to protect
America at all costs

1083
00:51:27,833 --> 00:51:31,041
leads him to formulate a new
national security philosophy

1084
00:51:31,041 --> 00:51:34,208
to deal with the threats
faced by the United States.

1085
00:51:34,208 --> 00:51:38,208
He says if there's even
a one percent chance

1086
00:51:38,208 --> 00:51:40,875
that terrorists have gotten
their hands

1087
00:51:40,875 --> 00:51:42,958
on weapons of mass destruction,

1088
00:51:42,958 --> 00:51:45,791
we need to treat it
as a certainty.

1089
00:51:45,791 --> 00:51:48,375
CHENEY:
100 percent effective defense

1090
00:51:48,375 --> 00:51:52,375
against further mass casualty
attacks by the terrorists,

1091
00:51:52,375 --> 00:51:54,250
by Al Qaeda.

1092
00:51:54,250 --> 00:51:57,041
WOODWARD:
He really is
the self-appointed examiner

1093
00:51:57,041 --> 00:51:58,916
of worst-case scenarios.

1094
00:51:58,916 --> 00:52:03,000
What could go on
that would be so bad,

1095
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:07,833
that might even make 9-11
a footnote.

1096
00:52:07,833 --> 00:52:10,416
CHENEY:
You've got to figure out
where the terrorists are,

1097
00:52:10,416 --> 00:52:12,083
what's their base
of operations,

1098
00:52:12,083 --> 00:52:14,250
do they have access
to that technology,

1099
00:52:14,250 --> 00:52:16,250
how do they have access
to that technology,

1100
00:52:16,250 --> 00:52:18,083
is there a state out there,

1101
00:52:18,083 --> 00:52:22,000
a state actor that has some
capability in this area, Iraq?

1102
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,666
Uh, that is a potential source
for the terrorists.

1103
00:52:25,666 --> 00:52:28,666
MANN:
Why was Iraq important
to Cheney?

1104
00:52:28,666 --> 00:52:30,750
It's because it was
in a strategic location

1105
00:52:30,750 --> 00:52:32,375
in the Middle East.

1106
00:52:32,375 --> 00:52:34,750
The United States
had defeated it once before,

1107
00:52:34,750 --> 00:52:36,291
without much difficulty,

1108
00:52:36,291 --> 00:52:40,916
and it was, um, a place
where the United States

1109
00:52:40,916 --> 00:52:45,250
could show the region its
continuing military power.

1110
00:52:47,583 --> 00:52:50,500
NARRATOR:
In his first State of the Union
speech after 9-11,

1111
00:52:50,500 --> 00:52:53,541
Bush names Iraq as a new
foreign policy priority

1112
00:52:53,541 --> 00:52:54,750
for the United States.

1113
00:52:54,750 --> 00:52:57,708
Iraq continues to flaunt
its hostility toward America

1114
00:52:57,708 --> 00:52:59,291
and to support terror.

1115
00:52:59,291 --> 00:53:03,208
States like these
and their terrorist allies

1116
00:53:03,208 --> 00:53:07,625
constitute an axis of evil
arming to threaten the peace

1117
00:53:07,625 --> 00:53:09,666
of the world,

1118
00:53:09,666 --> 00:53:12,666
by seeking weapons
of mass destruction.

1119
00:53:12,666 --> 00:53:14,291
NARRATOR:
In the wake of Bush's speech,

1120
00:53:14,291 --> 00:53:16,291
Cheney leads
the administration's effort

1121
00:53:16,291 --> 00:53:19,083
to make a case that
war with Iraq is justified,

1122
00:53:19,083 --> 00:53:21,625
because of Saddam's weapons
of mass destruction.

1123
00:53:21,625 --> 00:53:23,541
CHENEY:
We know he is, uh,

1124
00:53:23,541 --> 00:53:25,541
working once again
on a nuclear program.

1125
00:53:25,541 --> 00:53:28,125
We know they have weapons
of mass destruction,

1126
00:53:28,125 --> 00:53:29,958
we know they have
active programs.

1127
00:53:29,958 --> 00:53:32,666
There isn't
any debate about it.

1128
00:53:32,666 --> 00:53:35,333
Of course by 2002,
we got the, uh,

1129
00:53:35,333 --> 00:53:37,500
the National
Intelligence Estimate,

1130
00:53:37,500 --> 00:53:39,875
and a whole bunch of reporting
that led up to that

1131
00:53:39,875 --> 00:53:41,833
that said
he had resumed

1132
00:53:41,833 --> 00:53:43,708
his weapons of mass
destruction programs.

1133
00:53:43,708 --> 00:53:46,416
Immediately,
the intelligence services,

1134
00:53:46,416 --> 00:53:48,250
especially the CIA,

1135
00:53:48,250 --> 00:53:51,333
say this is
a very dangerous model,

1136
00:53:51,333 --> 00:53:53,416
Mr. President,
Mr. Vice President.

1137
00:53:53,416 --> 00:53:55,791
A...there may well be
no weapons,

1138
00:53:55,791 --> 00:53:59,250
B...if there are weapons,
when we invade the country

1139
00:53:59,250 --> 00:54:01,416
it may be impossible to find
the weapons.

1140
00:54:01,416 --> 00:54:04,625
To build a case for war
on weapons of mass destruction,

1141
00:54:04,625 --> 00:54:07,541
is a dangerous roll
of the dice.

1142
00:54:07,541 --> 00:54:09,166
In 1998,

1143
00:54:09,166 --> 00:54:13,166
Bill Clinton ordered strikes
on targets inside Iraq,

1144
00:54:13,166 --> 00:54:16,083
um, because he felt
Saddam had refused

1145
00:54:16,083 --> 00:54:18,791
to comply with the U.N.
Security Council resolutions,

1146
00:54:18,791 --> 00:54:22,875
and in fact come clean on
his weapons of mass destruction.

1147
00:54:22,875 --> 00:54:26,708
And the whole intelligence
was collected,

1148
00:54:26,708 --> 00:54:28,583
analyzed, and presented,

1149
00:54:28,583 --> 00:54:32,500
before George Bush and I ever
got back into the Oval Office.

1150
00:54:32,500 --> 00:54:34,250
They never really
had a meeting

1151
00:54:34,250 --> 00:54:37,541
about whether they should
attack Iraq.

1152
00:54:37,541 --> 00:54:40,208
It was kind of
an incorporated assumption.

1153
00:54:40,208 --> 00:54:42,208
The evidence
is overwhelming...

1154
00:54:42,208 --> 00:54:43,666
CORN:
He kept getting out there

1155
00:54:43,666 --> 00:54:45,333
on Meet the Press
and the other venues,

1156
00:54:45,333 --> 00:54:47,458
but it was all innuendo.

1157
00:54:47,458 --> 00:54:50,541
Who did the anthrax attack
last fall, Tim?

1158
00:54:50,541 --> 00:54:51,708
We don't know.

1159
00:54:51,708 --> 00:54:53,125
TIM:
Could it have
been Saddam?

1160
00:54:53,125 --> 00:54:55,041
I don't know.

1161
00:54:55,041 --> 00:54:59,375
WOODWARD:
I really think there was
a momentum to war.

1162
00:54:59,375 --> 00:55:01,041
Cheney is saying,

1163
00:55:01,041 --> 00:55:05,750
"We've got to do it,
the intelligence is there."

1164
00:55:05,750 --> 00:55:08,583
He had the personnel,
he had the technology,

1165
00:55:08,583 --> 00:55:11,458
he had the know-how, he had
a lot of the raw material,

1166
00:55:11,458 --> 00:55:14,500
and he had the desire to get
back into the business big time.

1167
00:55:14,500 --> 00:55:16,916
REPORTER:
He said we have a lot
of allies out there,

1168
00:55:16,916 --> 00:55:18,791
but I haven't noticed
any of the Arab states

1169
00:55:18,791 --> 00:55:21,416
supporting strong action
against Iraq.

1170
00:55:21,416 --> 00:55:23,583
Well, I think, um,
I guess the way

1171
00:55:23,583 --> 00:55:25,541
I would characterize it
is that they are

1172
00:55:25,541 --> 00:55:30,250
uniformly concerned
about the situation in Iraq.

1173
00:55:30,250 --> 00:55:32,750
SUSKIND:
Bush is insecure
as president.

1174
00:55:32,750 --> 00:55:35,625
Cheney brilliantly
exploits this.

1175
00:55:35,625 --> 00:55:38,250
NARRATOR:
Cheney points to Iraq's
refusal to submit

1176
00:55:38,250 --> 00:55:40,791
to weapons inspections
as clear proof

1177
00:55:40,791 --> 00:55:44,625
that Saddam Hussein is hiding
weapons of mass destruction.

1178
00:55:44,625 --> 00:55:46,625
But there is
another explanation.

1179
00:55:46,625 --> 00:55:50,125
SUSKIND:
What Saddam is worried about
is that his neighbors,

1180
00:55:50,125 --> 00:55:52,958
and he's got tough neighbors
including the Iranians,

1181
00:55:52,958 --> 00:55:56,166
will find out that,
that he's a paper tiger,

1182
00:55:56,166 --> 00:55:58,083
that there's nothing here.

1183
00:55:58,083 --> 00:56:00,333
GELLMAN:
Cheney was
cherry-picking intelligence,

1184
00:56:00,333 --> 00:56:01,625
interpreting intelligence,

1185
00:56:01,625 --> 00:56:03,958
taking
this piece and that piece.

1186
00:56:03,958 --> 00:56:06,208
He has been seeking to acquire

1187
00:56:06,208 --> 00:56:08,000
the kinds of tubes
that are necessary

1188
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,500
to build a centrifuge.

1189
00:56:10,500 --> 00:56:13,541
WOODWARD:
Colin Powell thought Cheney
had a fever

1190
00:56:13,541 --> 00:56:15,625
for attacking Iraq.

1191
00:56:15,625 --> 00:56:19,000
Powell concluded Cheney
could not,

1192
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,625
was always twisting intelligence
and exaggerating it.

1193
00:56:22,625 --> 00:56:24,833
CHENEY:
Our administration
is moving forward

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00:56:24,833 --> 00:56:28,125
on an agenda to build a safe
and prosperous future

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00:56:28,125 --> 00:56:29,833
for the American people.

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00:56:29,833 --> 00:56:31,958
NARRATOR:
In August of 2002,

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00:56:31,958 --> 00:56:33,791
Cheney addresses
the National Convention

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00:56:33,791 --> 00:56:36,208
of the Veterans
of Foreign Wars.

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00:56:36,208 --> 00:56:38,166
He presents his most
forceful case yet

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00:56:38,166 --> 00:56:40,083
for war against Iraq.

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00:56:40,083 --> 00:56:42,750
CHENEY:
Armed with an arsenal
of these weapons of terror

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00:56:42,750 --> 00:56:45,416
and seated atop ten percent
of the world's oil reserves,

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00:56:45,416 --> 00:56:49,333
Saddam Hussein could then be
expected to seek domination

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00:56:49,333 --> 00:56:53,166
of the entire Middle East,
take control of a great portion

1205
00:56:53,166 --> 00:56:54,750
of the world's energy supplies

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00:56:54,750 --> 00:56:58,541
and subject the United States
or any other nation

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00:56:58,541 --> 00:57:01,375
to nuclear blackmail.

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00:57:01,375 --> 00:57:04,333
Simply stated,
there is no doubt

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00:57:04,333 --> 00:57:07,708
that Saddam Hussein now has
weapons of mass destruction,

1210
00:57:07,708 --> 00:57:10,541
there is no doubt that
he is amassing them to use

1211
00:57:10,541 --> 00:57:12,916
against our friends,
against our allies,

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00:57:12,916 --> 00:57:14,708
and against us.

1213
00:57:14,708 --> 00:57:18,541
There is no basis to discount
any of the concerns

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00:57:18,541 --> 00:57:20,125
that I am raising this morning.

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00:57:23,125 --> 00:57:26,500
NARRATOR:
Three weeks after
Cheney's speech to the VFW,

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00:57:26,500 --> 00:57:30,000
Bush presses Congress
to authorize a war.

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00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,750
Cheney believes that Bush,
as Commander-in-Chief,

1218
00:57:32,750 --> 00:57:36,541
does not need to ask Congress
for permission to attack Iraq.

1219
00:57:36,541 --> 00:57:39,000
But Bush decides
that for political reasons,

1220
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,166
he needs the backing
of Congress.

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00:57:41,166 --> 00:57:43,500
America's leadership
and willingness to use force

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00:57:43,500 --> 00:57:46,833
confirmed by the Congress
is the best way

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00:57:46,833 --> 00:57:50,083
to ensure compliance
and avoid conflict.

1224
00:57:50,083 --> 00:57:52,541
We will continue working closely
with members of Congress

1225
00:57:52,541 --> 00:57:54,208
on both sides of the aisle

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00:57:54,208 --> 00:57:56,583
to build a strong
bipartisan resolution.

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00:57:56,583 --> 00:57:58,250
GELLMAN:
They had to win this vote,

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00:57:58,250 --> 00:58:01,666
and there was a key piece
on that chessboard.

1229
00:58:01,666 --> 00:58:05,416
As long as he behaves himself
within his own borders,

1230
00:58:05,416 --> 00:58:11,375
we should not be addressing any
attack of resources against him.

1231
00:58:11,375 --> 00:58:14,416
GELLMAN:
Dick Armey, the majority
leader in the house,

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00:58:14,416 --> 00:58:18,416
a very reliable conservative,
100 percent rating

1233
00:58:18,416 --> 00:58:20,458
from all the conservative groups
over the years,

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00:58:20,458 --> 00:58:22,750
a good friend of Dick Cheney's
over the years.

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00:58:22,750 --> 00:58:26,916
ARMEY:
Do we sometimes get caught up
in wars or conflicts

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00:58:26,916 --> 00:58:29,625
over purposes that are in fact
not imperative

1237
00:58:29,625 --> 00:58:32,250
to maintaining our freedom
and our safety,

1238
00:58:32,250 --> 00:58:34,125
I'm afraid sometimes
we do that.

1239
00:58:34,125 --> 00:58:37,166
Dick Armey just didn't see it.
This guy Saddam, he said,

1240
00:58:37,166 --> 00:58:39,750
he's a clown, he's unfriendly
to the United States,

1241
00:58:39,750 --> 00:58:42,125
he's...terrible
to his own people,

1242
00:58:42,125 --> 00:58:44,958
but a threat, a national
security threat to us?

1243
00:58:44,958 --> 00:58:48,500
If Armey had voted no, he would
have given political cover to

1244
00:58:48,500 --> 00:58:51,125
dozens and dozens of Democrats
who also wanted to vote no

1245
00:58:51,125 --> 00:58:52,791
but were afraid to do it.

1246
00:58:52,791 --> 00:58:55,000
JIM MCDERMOTT:
This resolution is premature.

1247
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,125
There has been no showing
by the Intelligence agencies

1248
00:58:58,125 --> 00:59:01,625
or the White House of imminent
danger to the United States.

1249
00:59:01,625 --> 00:59:05,625
Mr. President,
this is plain and simple.

1250
00:59:05,625 --> 00:59:09,166
A blank check,
given to the President

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00:59:09,166 --> 00:59:12,083
of the United States,
I won't touch it!

1252
00:59:16,291 --> 00:59:18,500
GELLMAN:
Armey's mind will not change,

1253
00:59:18,500 --> 00:59:22,083
and so it comes to Bush's
biggest closer, Dick Cheney,

1254
00:59:22,083 --> 00:59:26,333
to go convince his friend
Dick Armey.

1255
00:59:26,333 --> 00:59:30,208
Dick Cheney called in Armey
to a little office

1256
00:59:30,208 --> 00:59:33,333
he had off the main floor
of the Capitol building,

1257
00:59:33,333 --> 00:59:35,000
and he tells Armey a story,

1258
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,791
that Saddam Hussein
has made rapid progress

1259
00:59:38,791 --> 00:59:41,125
toward the miniaturization
of a nuclear warhead.

1260
00:59:41,125 --> 00:59:42,833
He's talking about...

1261
00:59:42,833 --> 00:59:47,083
the sort of ultimate terrorist
threat of a suitcase nuke.

1262
00:59:47,083 --> 00:59:49,875
He also tells him that Saddam
and his family

1263
00:59:49,875 --> 00:59:52,708
have had direct
personal contacts

1264
00:59:52,708 --> 00:59:55,166
with Osama bin Laden
and his people,

1265
00:59:55,166 --> 00:59:56,875
so that there are
very close ties.

1266
00:59:56,875 --> 00:59:59,541
He tells Armey,
"I'm telling you things

1267
00:59:59,541 --> 01:00:01,541
that are essentially
too classified

1268
01:00:01,541 --> 01:00:03,541
or too scary
to tell the general public,

1269
01:00:03,541 --> 01:00:06,375
but in fact,
the situation's actually worse

1270
01:00:06,375 --> 01:00:07,708
than we've been portraying."

1271
01:00:10,583 --> 01:00:14,458
Almost nothing Cheney told Armey
in that conversation was true.

1272
01:00:16,083 --> 01:00:17,666
Armey had a bad feeling
about it,

1273
01:00:17,666 --> 01:00:21,166
but here you have the vice
president telling him,

1274
01:00:21,166 --> 01:00:24,041
"Saddam has direct ties
to Al Qaeda

1275
01:00:24,041 --> 01:00:27,416
and is getting close
to building suitcase nukes."

1276
01:00:27,416 --> 01:00:30,708
And at that point, Dick Armey
feels that he cannot,

1277
01:00:30,708 --> 01:00:32,750
in good conscience,
vote against the war.

1278
01:00:38,833 --> 01:00:43,083
Well, let me begin by thanking
you all for coming.

1279
01:00:43,083 --> 01:00:48,375
I'll make a brief statement,
and we'll open up for questions.

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01:00:48,375 --> 01:00:52,333
I have decided to support
President Bush

1281
01:00:52,333 --> 01:00:54,458
and the resolution authorizing
the use of force

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01:00:54,458 --> 01:00:58,208
to change the current regime
in Iraq.

1283
01:00:58,208 --> 01:01:02,500
My decision follows a careful,
exhaustive review

1284
01:01:02,500 --> 01:01:05,416
of the facts and evidence
against Saddam Hussein.

1285
01:01:05,416 --> 01:01:07,291
REPORTER:
What made you change?

1286
01:01:07,291 --> 01:01:09,291
ARMEY:
Information.

1287
01:01:09,291 --> 01:01:14,458
The assets that Saddam has

1288
01:01:14,458 --> 01:01:19,208
that can be destructive
to people,

1289
01:01:19,208 --> 01:01:21,333
uh, weapons of mass destruction,

1290
01:01:21,333 --> 01:01:25,333
is greater than what I had
supposed. The degree...

1291
01:01:25,333 --> 01:01:27,000
NARRATOR:
Three days later,

1292
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,250
congress votes on whether
to authorize war with Iraq.

1293
01:01:30,250 --> 01:01:32,583
SCHUMER:
As we move towards
final passage,

1294
01:01:32,583 --> 01:01:34,625
the choice before us
is this resolution,

1295
01:01:34,625 --> 01:01:36,958
imperfect as it is,

1296
01:01:36,958 --> 01:01:38,333
or none at all.

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01:01:38,333 --> 01:01:41,041
Because I believe it is
important for America

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01:01:41,041 --> 01:01:44,500
to speak with one voice
at this critical moment,

1299
01:01:44,500 --> 01:01:47,500
I will give--
I will vote to give

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01:01:47,500 --> 01:01:50,791
the president
the authority he needs.

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01:01:50,791 --> 01:01:55,166
CORN:
I take it on good faith
that Dick Cheney

1302
01:01:55,166 --> 01:01:59,125
and George W. Bush cared about
protecting America.

1303
01:01:59,125 --> 01:02:00,666
Who wouldn't?

1304
01:02:00,666 --> 01:02:04,166
And that they were concerned
and worried, genuinely,

1305
01:02:04,166 --> 01:02:06,125
about threats to America.

1306
01:02:06,125 --> 01:02:09,125
But...

1307
01:02:09,125 --> 01:02:12,541
they rigged the deck.

1308
01:02:12,541 --> 01:02:17,541
I have concluded, after careful
and serious consideration,

1309
01:02:17,541 --> 01:02:20,750
that a vote for the resolution
best serves the security

1310
01:02:20,750 --> 01:02:22,833
of our nation.

1311
01:02:22,833 --> 01:02:26,666
CORN:
When you're in power,
you have the ability

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01:02:26,666 --> 01:02:30,833
to completely shape
the debate,

1313
01:02:30,833 --> 01:02:33,666
particularly when it involves
secret information.

1314
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:39,708
And it's a pretty immense power.

1315
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,500
Mr. President,

1316
01:02:50,500 --> 01:02:56,041
we trust to you the best
we have to give.

1317
01:02:56,041 --> 01:03:00,791
Use them well,
so they can come home

1318
01:03:00,791 --> 01:03:03,833
and say to our grandchildren,

1319
01:03:03,833 --> 01:03:08,291
"Sleep safely, my baby."

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01:03:12,125 --> 01:03:14,250
CORN:
Virtually all the Republicans
voted for this

1321
01:03:14,250 --> 01:03:19,750
and half of the Democrats
in the House and Senate.

1322
01:03:19,750 --> 01:03:22,291
The I's are 77.

1323
01:03:22,291 --> 01:03:24,333
The Nay's are 23.

1324
01:03:26,375 --> 01:03:29,000
The joint resolution is passed.

1325
01:03:31,916 --> 01:03:34,583
You try to do everything
you can diplomatically,

1326
01:03:34,583 --> 01:03:36,250
without resort to force.

1327
01:03:36,250 --> 01:03:38,625
But our history is replete
with examples where,

1328
01:03:38,625 --> 01:03:41,208
ultimately, we had to use force.

1329
01:03:41,208 --> 01:03:44,833
INTERVIEWER:
And the argument that this was
a war you wanted?

1330
01:03:46,208 --> 01:03:49,916
Wanted?
Why, because liked war?

1331
01:03:49,916 --> 01:03:53,916
[MACHINE GUN FIRE]

1332
01:03:59,250 --> 01:04:00,958
NARRATOR:
The opening stage
of the war was

1333
01:04:00,958 --> 01:04:03,416
a massive aerial bombardment,
designed to produce

1334
01:04:03,416 --> 01:04:06,458
what the pentagon calls
"shock and awe."

1335
01:04:06,458 --> 01:04:08,791
[EXPLOSIONS AND GUNFIRE]

1336
01:04:12,708 --> 01:04:16,916
When the ground war begins,
the Iraqi army crumbles.

1337
01:04:16,916 --> 01:04:18,916
RUMSFELD:
With each passing day,
the Iraqi regime

1338
01:04:18,916 --> 01:04:21,750
is losing control
over more of the country.

1339
01:04:21,750 --> 01:04:24,833
Coalition forces
are closing in on Baghdad.

1340
01:04:24,833 --> 01:04:27,125
SOLDIER:
We got a med-evac coming on!

1341
01:04:27,125 --> 01:04:28,541
Get on the roof.

1342
01:04:28,541 --> 01:04:29,791
[INDISTINCT SHOUTING]

1343
01:04:32,958 --> 01:04:34,791
RUMSFELD:
Tomorrow will mark three weeks

1344
01:04:34,791 --> 01:04:36,666
since Operation Iraqi Freedom
began,

1345
01:04:36,666 --> 01:04:39,833
and the progress has been
nothing short of spectacular.

1346
01:04:43,875 --> 01:04:48,166
Today, Saddam Hussein's
regime is history.

1347
01:04:48,166 --> 01:04:51,166
[APPLAUSE]

1348
01:04:51,166 --> 01:04:54,166
NARRATOR:
Thirty-five years
into his political career,

1349
01:04:54,166 --> 01:04:57,083
Cheney has reached
the pinnacle of his power.

1350
01:04:57,083 --> 01:04:59,375
He has reasserted
the presidential authority.

1351
01:04:59,375 --> 01:05:02,291
His philosophy is now
American policy.

1352
01:05:02,291 --> 01:05:03,541
Thank you all.

1353
01:05:03,541 --> 01:05:04,833
[APPLAUSE]

1354
01:05:04,833 --> 01:05:06,375
It's not enough to say,

1355
01:05:06,375 --> 01:05:08,708
as you oftentimes do
in the national security arena,

1356
01:05:08,708 --> 01:05:11,000
"There's only a 1 percent chance
that's going to happen."

1357
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:15,000
You can't say, "That'd only
cost us 10,000 lives."

1358
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:16,750
You've got to be prepared
to make certain

1359
01:05:16,750 --> 01:05:19,250
they never get through again.

1360
01:05:19,250 --> 01:05:21,875
ANNOUNCER:
And he's about to fall...

1361
01:05:21,875 --> 01:05:23,875
NARRATOR:
The invasion is complete.

1362
01:05:23,875 --> 01:05:25,875
Saddam has been toppled.

1363
01:05:25,875 --> 01:05:27,875
But, despite
the administration's assertion

1364
01:05:27,875 --> 01:05:30,708
that major combat operations
had ended,

1365
01:05:30,708 --> 01:05:32,958
the war in Iraq
is not over yet.

1366
01:05:32,958 --> 01:05:35,125
[SHOUTING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

1367
01:05:37,583 --> 01:05:41,875
There was a level of violence
people weren't anticipating.

1368
01:05:45,208 --> 01:05:47,625
NARRATOR:
Looting and lawlessness
quickly become rampant.

1369
01:05:47,625 --> 01:05:49,333
[SPEAKING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

1370
01:05:49,333 --> 01:05:52,208
U.S. troops are not ordered
to intervene.

1371
01:05:52,208 --> 01:05:55,583
Donald Rumsfeld wants to bring
them home as soon as possible.

1372
01:05:55,583 --> 01:05:58,916
Many are told they will be home
in a month.

1373
01:05:58,916 --> 01:06:01,958
HOOVER:
His way of thinking was Iraq
is always going to be Iraq.

1374
01:06:01,958 --> 01:06:04,333
You're never going
to be able to create

1375
01:06:04,333 --> 01:06:07,208
a stable constitutional
government unless you stay there

1376
01:06:07,208 --> 01:06:08,916
physically for 20 years,

1377
01:06:08,916 --> 01:06:10,708
but let's not
get tied down there.

1378
01:06:10,708 --> 01:06:12,916
NARRATOR:
In the aftermath
of the invasion,

1379
01:06:12,916 --> 01:06:15,583
Iraq is under
military occupation.

1380
01:06:15,583 --> 01:06:17,625
Governing it
is the responsibility

1381
01:06:17,625 --> 01:06:19,583
of the Defense Department.

1382
01:06:19,583 --> 01:06:21,000
Two weeks after

1383
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:22,750
the administration
declares victory,

1384
01:06:22,750 --> 01:06:25,250
50,000 members of Saddam
Hussein's Ba'ath party

1385
01:06:25,250 --> 01:06:28,750
are fired from their jobs
with Rumsfeld's approval.

1386
01:06:28,750 --> 01:06:31,750
Most are low level civil
servants who had nothing to do

1387
01:06:31,750 --> 01:06:33,708
with Saddam's atrocities.

1388
01:06:33,708 --> 01:06:36,791
Without them, Iraq has
no functioning government.

1389
01:06:36,791 --> 01:06:38,458
RUMSFELD:
We expected that...

1390
01:06:38,458 --> 01:06:40,583
once you took away
that top layer of leadership,

1391
01:06:40,583 --> 01:06:42,583
that the professional
bureaucracy underneath

1392
01:06:42,583 --> 01:06:44,333
could carry on.

1393
01:06:44,333 --> 01:06:46,125
Um, that didn't happen.

1394
01:06:47,875 --> 01:06:52,000
NARRATOR:
Seven days later,
the Iraqi army is disbanded.

1395
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,166
General Tommy Franks, who
leads the U.S. forces in Iraq,

1396
01:06:55,166 --> 01:06:56,958
has been planning to use
the Iraqi army

1397
01:06:56,958 --> 01:06:59,750
to help provide security.

1398
01:06:59,750 --> 01:07:02,750
Instead, the ex-soldiers
and fired bureaucrats

1399
01:07:02,750 --> 01:07:06,666
form the nucleus of
an anti-American insurgency.

1400
01:07:06,666 --> 01:07:09,291
The attacks begin three days
after the dismissal

1401
01:07:09,291 --> 01:07:10,625
of the Iraqi army.

1402
01:07:12,708 --> 01:07:15,625
SOLDIER:
Whoa, holy shit!

1403
01:07:16,500 --> 01:07:18,625
SOLDIER:
Oh, fuck.

1404
01:07:20,791 --> 01:07:23,291
SOLDIER:
Holy fuck.

1405
01:07:28,541 --> 01:07:31,541
NARRATOR:
As the situation in Iraq
begins to deteriorate,

1406
01:07:31,541 --> 01:07:33,458
the administration
faces questions

1407
01:07:33,458 --> 01:07:36,333
about the intelligence
it used to justify the war.

1408
01:07:38,625 --> 01:07:41,166
In the days before
the Iraq war began,

1409
01:07:41,166 --> 01:07:43,708
President Bush had presented
his final and best case

1410
01:07:43,708 --> 01:07:46,666
against Iraq in
his State of the Union address.

1411
01:07:46,666 --> 01:07:48,375
He had made a claim

1412
01:07:48,375 --> 01:07:50,291
about Saddam Hussein's
nuclear ambitions

1413
01:07:50,291 --> 01:07:53,541
that later became
known as "The 16 Words."

1414
01:07:53,541 --> 01:07:55,916
The British government has
learned that Saddam Hussein

1415
01:07:55,916 --> 01:07:58,125
recently sought
significant quantities

1416
01:07:58,125 --> 01:08:00,833
of uranium from Africa.

1417
01:08:00,833 --> 01:08:05,291
NARRATOR:
The origin of "The 16 Words"
dated back to late 2001.

1418
01:08:05,291 --> 01:08:07,333
The U.S. had received
a report

1419
01:08:07,333 --> 01:08:10,125
that Iraq had bought raw
uranium, known as yellow cake,

1420
01:08:10,125 --> 01:08:12,583
from the African country
of Niger.

1421
01:08:12,583 --> 01:08:14,666
If properly treated,
yellow cake could be used

1422
01:08:14,666 --> 01:08:16,708
in a nuclear weapon.

1423
01:08:16,708 --> 01:08:20,250
The CIA and other intelligence
agencies had quickly dismissed

1424
01:08:20,250 --> 01:08:23,417
the claim, which had been based
on forged documents.

1425
01:08:23,417 --> 01:08:25,332
CORN:
There was a fellow
in the State Department

1426
01:08:25,332 --> 01:08:27,542
who looked at these
and immediately said,

1427
01:08:27,542 --> 01:08:29,375
"There's nothing to this."

1428
01:08:29,375 --> 01:08:32,082
NARRATOR:
But Cheney had learned
of the yellow cake report,

1429
01:08:32,082 --> 01:08:35,207
and he had asked the CIA
for more information.

1430
01:08:35,207 --> 01:08:37,917
The e CIA had then asked
Joe Wilson,

1431
01:08:37,917 --> 01:08:41,375
the former U.S. ambassador
to Niger, to investigate.

1432
01:08:41,375 --> 01:08:46,250
Wilson was sent over there
to check to see about reports

1433
01:08:46,250 --> 01:08:50,417
that the Iraqis were seeking
uranium from Niger.

1434
01:08:50,417 --> 01:08:52,917
CORN:
He knew officials
in the government

1435
01:08:52,917 --> 01:08:56,375
and thought he could go and
talk to people and suss it out.

1436
01:08:56,375 --> 01:09:00,125
NARRATOR:
Ambassador Wilson told the CIA
he had found no evidence

1437
01:09:00,125 --> 01:09:01,667
confirming the report.

1438
01:09:01,667 --> 01:09:03,625
The only thing Wilson
had uncovered was

1439
01:09:03,625 --> 01:09:06,708
one brief conversation
between an Iraqi official

1440
01:09:06,708 --> 01:09:09,291
and a former Nigerian
prime minister.

1441
01:09:09,291 --> 01:09:11,917
The former prime minister had,
in fact, been approached

1442
01:09:11,917 --> 01:09:15,291
by an Iraqi delegation
in 1999 wanting

1443
01:09:15,291 --> 01:09:19,625
to establish
better communications

1444
01:09:19,625 --> 01:09:22,750
and commercial relations
with Niger.

1445
01:09:22,750 --> 01:09:27,875
Now, the only thing Niger had
to export was uranium and goats.

1446
01:09:27,875 --> 01:09:30,250
And Iraqis had plenty of goats.

1447
01:09:30,250 --> 01:09:32,291
NARRATOR:
Seven months after
Wilson's trip,

1448
01:09:32,291 --> 01:09:34,792
Britain's MI6
intelligence agency issued

1449
01:09:34,792 --> 01:09:36,958
a public statement saying
that Saddam had, in fact,

1450
01:09:36,958 --> 01:09:41,332
tried to buy uranium
from Niger.

1451
01:09:41,332 --> 01:09:43,457
Despite Wilson's report
and repeated warnings

1452
01:09:43,457 --> 01:09:46,958
from senior CIA officials,
the administration decided

1453
01:09:46,958 --> 01:09:50,582
to make the British claim
part of its case for war.

1454
01:09:50,582 --> 01:09:54,750
Mr. Speaker,
Vice President Cheney,

1455
01:09:54,750 --> 01:09:56,792
members of Congress:

1456
01:09:56,792 --> 01:10:00,792
This year we gather
in this chamber, deeply aware

1457
01:10:00,792 --> 01:10:04,500
of decisive days that lie ahead.

1458
01:10:06,625 --> 01:10:09,667
After the invasion of Iraq,
Joe Wilson goes public

1459
01:10:09,667 --> 01:10:11,082
in The New York Times.

1460
01:10:11,082 --> 01:10:15,041
WILSON:
That information was erroneous,
and they knew about it

1461
01:10:15,041 --> 01:10:16,958
well ahead of both
the publication

1462
01:10:16,958 --> 01:10:18,291
of the British white paper

1463
01:10:18,291 --> 01:10:20,166
and the president's
State of the Union address.

1464
01:10:20,166 --> 01:10:24,958
Dick Cheney and Scooter Libby,
they go ballistic.

1465
01:10:24,958 --> 01:10:26,958
I think it was more of
a concern in the office

1466
01:10:26,958 --> 01:10:29,207
of the vice president,
frankly, than it was elsewhere

1467
01:10:29,207 --> 01:10:30,750
in the White House.

1468
01:10:30,750 --> 01:10:33,250
NARRATOR:
Eight days later, Wilson's wife,
Valerie Plame,

1469
01:10:33,250 --> 01:10:36,000
is named in
The Washington Post.

1470
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:38,792
Plame is
an undercover CIA agent.

1471
01:10:38,792 --> 01:10:40,875
Her cover is blown.

1472
01:10:40,875 --> 01:10:42,625
Someone at 1600 Pennsylvania

1473
01:10:42,625 --> 01:10:44,750
may have leaked
the classified identity...

1474
01:10:44,750 --> 01:10:48,667
REPORTER 1:
The motive for outing the agent
may have been revenge...

1475
01:10:48,667 --> 01:10:51,291
REPORTER 2:
New York Times  reports today
an aide learned

1476
01:10:51,291 --> 01:10:53,667
about the identity of a CIA
agent from his boss,

1477
01:10:53,667 --> 01:10:55,125
Vice President Dick Cheney.

1478
01:10:55,125 --> 01:10:56,708
Washington is consumed in this,

1479
01:10:56,708 --> 01:10:59,041
something I haven't seen
since the Lewinsky scandal.

1480
01:10:59,041 --> 01:11:02,291
People will frequently die
from revelations like this.

1481
01:11:02,291 --> 01:11:04,500
I do know that the president
of the United States would

1482
01:11:04,500 --> 01:11:06,207
not expect his White House
to behave in that way.

1483
01:11:06,207 --> 01:11:08,041
If there's a leak out
of my administration,

1484
01:11:08,041 --> 01:11:11,332
I want to know who it is.

1485
01:11:11,332 --> 01:11:14,917
And, uh, if the person
has violated law,

1486
01:11:14,917 --> 01:11:16,332
that person
will be taken care of.

1487
01:11:16,332 --> 01:11:18,792
NARRATOR:
As the scandal grows,

1488
01:11:18,792 --> 01:11:20,833
Deputy Attorney General
James Comey appoints

1489
01:11:20,833 --> 01:11:23,375
an independent prosecutor
to investigate.

1490
01:11:23,375 --> 01:11:26,166
Effective immediately,
the United States Attorney

1491
01:11:26,166 --> 01:11:27,875
for the northern district
of Illinois,

1492
01:11:27,875 --> 01:11:31,041
Patrick J. Fitzgerald,
will serve as special counsel

1493
01:11:31,041 --> 01:11:32,625
in charge of this matter.

1494
01:11:32,625 --> 01:11:35,417
CHENEY:
He knew who the source
of the leak was.

1495
01:11:35,417 --> 01:11:37,500
It was Rich Armitage
in the State Department,

1496
01:11:37,500 --> 01:11:40,792
Colin Powell's deputy,
was the source of the leak.

1497
01:11:40,792 --> 01:11:43,917
NARRATOR:
Fitzgerald does not file
charges against Armitage,

1498
01:11:43,917 --> 01:11:45,582
Determining that Armitage
did not know

1499
01:11:45,582 --> 01:11:47,250
Plame was
an undercover agent.

1500
01:11:47,250 --> 01:11:49,667
Fitzgerald then
investigates whether

1501
01:11:49,667 --> 01:11:52,500
any other White House staffers
leaked Plame's name.

1502
01:11:52,500 --> 01:11:56,250
The special prosecutor
zeroed in on my office.

1503
01:11:56,250 --> 01:12:00,500
Libby goes before a grand jury
and testifies twice under oath.

1504
01:12:00,500 --> 01:12:02,457
His testimony,
and the testimony

1505
01:12:02,457 --> 01:12:04,917
of reporters he spoke to,
present conflicting accounts

1506
01:12:04,917 --> 01:12:07,833
of how Plame's name
was given to the press.

1507
01:12:10,750 --> 01:12:12,582
Meanwhile, the military's hunt

1508
01:12:12,582 --> 01:12:14,792
for Iraqi weapons
of mass destruction

1509
01:12:14,792 --> 01:12:17,250
has turned up
no actual weapons.

1510
01:12:17,250 --> 01:12:18,958
CORN:
They weren't finding
the factories,

1511
01:12:18,958 --> 01:12:22,625
they weren't finding
the raw materials,

1512
01:12:22,625 --> 01:12:24,625
they weren't finding
the infrastructure...

1513
01:12:24,625 --> 01:12:27,250
I firmly believe
that when it's all said and done

1514
01:12:27,250 --> 01:12:30,457
the people of the United States
and the world will realize

1515
01:12:30,457 --> 01:12:32,917
that Saddam Hussein had
a weapons program.

1516
01:12:32,917 --> 01:12:35,625
Where are the weapons
of mass destruction?

1517
01:12:35,625 --> 01:12:37,291
Please tell me.

1518
01:12:37,291 --> 01:12:39,500
The White House obviously was
getting quite worried,

1519
01:12:39,500 --> 01:12:41,542
and a whole narrative
was developing

1520
01:12:41,542 --> 01:12:44,125
that they had misled
the country into the war.

1521
01:12:44,125 --> 01:12:45,833
NARRATOR:
Two months after the invasion,

1522
01:12:45,833 --> 01:12:48,750
the CIA forms its own weapons
inspection team

1523
01:12:48,750 --> 01:12:51,291
to take over the search
from the military.

1524
01:12:51,291 --> 01:12:54,667
David Kay, a widely respected
former chief weapons inspector

1525
01:12:54,667 --> 01:12:57,792
for the United Nations,
leads the group.

1526
01:12:57,792 --> 01:13:00,041
During an exhaustive
eight month search,

1527
01:13:00,041 --> 01:13:01,833
he finds nothing.

1528
01:13:01,833 --> 01:13:03,500
I think everybody
in the military,

1529
01:13:03,500 --> 01:13:05,375
certainly in
the intelligence community,

1530
01:13:05,375 --> 01:13:08,125
and certainly the members
of the Iraq survey group

1531
01:13:08,125 --> 01:13:10,667
would have hoped by now there
would have been a breakthrough.

1532
01:13:10,667 --> 01:13:13,250
You just don't make decisions
like we do,

1533
01:13:13,250 --> 01:13:17,708
and put our nations youth
at risk based upon something

1534
01:13:17,708 --> 01:13:19,708
that appears not
to have existed.

1535
01:13:22,667 --> 01:13:26,833
We know that prior to going in,
that he had spent time

1536
01:13:26,833 --> 01:13:30,332
and effort acquiring mobile,
biological weapons labs.

1537
01:13:30,332 --> 01:13:33,625
We were quite confident he did,
in fact, have such a program.

1538
01:13:33,625 --> 01:13:35,667
We found a couple of
semi-trailers at this point,

1539
01:13:35,667 --> 01:13:38,833
which we believe were, in fact,
part of that program.

1540
01:13:38,833 --> 01:13:41,166
I would deem that conclusive
evidence, if you will,

1541
01:13:41,166 --> 01:13:43,375
that he did, in fact,
have programs

1542
01:13:43,375 --> 01:13:44,917
for weapons
of mass destruction.

1543
01:13:44,917 --> 01:13:48,082
NARRATOR:
Six days after Cheney's
statement,

1544
01:13:48,082 --> 01:13:50,207
weapons inspector David Kay
appears before

1545
01:13:50,207 --> 01:13:52,041
the Senate Armed Services
Committee.

1546
01:13:52,041 --> 01:13:54,708
Incredibly enough,
administration leaders

1547
01:13:54,708 --> 01:13:58,542
are still saying that we found
weapons of mass destruction,

1548
01:13:58,542 --> 01:14:01,875
but today's witness,
Dr. David Kay,

1549
01:14:01,875 --> 01:14:05,582
is saying that those two
trailers were for producing

1550
01:14:05,582 --> 01:14:10,041
hydrogen for weather balloons
or possibly rocket fuel,

1551
01:14:10,041 --> 01:14:12,207
not for biological weapons.

1552
01:14:14,082 --> 01:14:18,833
CHENEY:
Now the regime of Saddam Hussein
is gone forever,

1553
01:14:18,833 --> 01:14:20,542
and at a safe remove
from the danger,

1554
01:14:20,542 --> 01:14:24,082
some are now trying to cast
doubt upon the decision

1555
01:14:24,082 --> 01:14:26,291
to liberate Iraq.

1556
01:14:26,291 --> 01:14:28,708
The ability to criticize
is one of the great strengths

1557
01:14:28,708 --> 01:14:33,082
of our democracy, but those
who do so have an obligation

1558
01:14:33,082 --> 01:14:34,708
to answer this question:

1559
01:14:34,708 --> 01:14:39,917
How could any responsible leader
have ignored the Iraqi threat?

1560
01:14:39,917 --> 01:14:42,792
MANN:
When the facts run against him,
th he tends to come up

1561
01:14:42,792 --> 01:14:46,417
with a new rationale
to explain the new facts.

1562
01:14:46,417 --> 01:14:52,457
The rationale changes,
but the bottom line doesn't.

1563
01:14:52,457 --> 01:14:54,457
CHENEY:
We didn't find stockpiles.

1564
01:14:54,457 --> 01:14:56,250
We did find that
he had the capability.

1565
01:14:56,250 --> 01:14:59,207
And we believed
he had the intent.

1566
01:14:59,207 --> 01:15:02,958
BUSH:
We know Saddam Hussein
had the capability

1567
01:15:02,958 --> 01:15:08,250
to produce weapons
of mass destruction.

1568
01:15:08,250 --> 01:15:13,667
We know Saddam Hussein
had the intent

1569
01:15:13,667 --> 01:15:17,625
to arm his regime with weapons
of mass destruction.

1570
01:15:17,625 --> 01:15:21,917
DURBIN:
Think of how often
Vice President Cheney told us

1571
01:15:21,917 --> 01:15:25,792
that we were in imminent danger
from an attack

1572
01:15:25,792 --> 01:15:28,625
from Saddam Hussein
because of arsenals

1573
01:15:28,625 --> 01:15:31,291
of chemical
and biological weapons

1574
01:15:31,291 --> 01:15:34,875
and the rebuilding
of the nuclear weapons in Iraq.

1575
01:15:34,875 --> 01:15:37,457
That was the reason we did it.

1576
01:15:37,457 --> 01:15:40,332
And then we found out
that we were duped.

1577
01:15:40,332 --> 01:15:43,792
RUMSFELD:
I don't know any more
than anyone else knows,

1578
01:15:43,792 --> 01:15:47,582
all I know is that the fact
the stockpiles were not found

1579
01:15:47,582 --> 01:15:54,291
and the fact that
the administration had, I think,

1580
01:15:54,291 --> 01:15:57,667
unwisely placed so much stock

1581
01:15:57,667 --> 01:16:03,166
in the idea that there were
existing stocks,

1582
01:16:03,166 --> 01:16:05,833
it probably would have been
wiser in retrospect

1583
01:16:05,833 --> 01:16:11,291
if the White House had focused
on the fact that the basis

1584
01:16:11,291 --> 01:16:15,332
for doing what the president
decided to do was not rooted

1585
01:16:15,332 --> 01:16:16,833
in a single thing.

1586
01:16:22,750 --> 01:16:26,041
NARRATOR:
The dispute over the case
for war intensifies

1587
01:16:26,041 --> 01:16:28,958
at the same time as a top-secret
spy program comes

1588
01:16:28,958 --> 01:16:32,207
under challenge from within
the United States government.

1589
01:16:35,833 --> 01:16:38,000
In the wake of 9-11,
Cheney had wanted

1590
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:39,750
to expand electronic
surveillance

1591
01:16:39,750 --> 01:16:42,375
to hunt terrorists
inside the United States.

1592
01:16:42,375 --> 01:16:45,082
Cheney and his lawyer,
David Addington,

1593
01:16:45,082 --> 01:16:47,500
had helped design a new program
that would keep tabs

1594
01:16:47,500 --> 01:16:50,166
on billions of phone calls
and emails.

1595
01:16:50,166 --> 01:16:52,750
But existing law said
that a special court had

1596
01:16:52,750 --> 01:16:54,582
to issue a warrant
for each individual

1597
01:16:54,582 --> 01:16:56,875
the government wanted
to monitor.

1598
01:16:56,875 --> 01:16:58,958
CHENEY:
Big problem was
it didn't allow us

1599
01:16:58,958 --> 01:17:02,166
to get a fast enough turnaround
on threats to be able

1600
01:17:02,166 --> 01:17:04,958
to effectively intercept
the communications we needed

1601
01:17:04,958 --> 01:17:08,457
to guard against further
prospective attack.

1602
01:17:08,457 --> 01:17:11,417
The question then arose,
"Should we go to Congress

1603
01:17:11,417 --> 01:17:14,207
and ask them
to adjust the law?"

1604
01:17:14,207 --> 01:17:16,250
Dick Cheney was
a strong proponent

1605
01:17:16,250 --> 01:17:18,917
of not going to Congress.

1606
01:17:18,917 --> 01:17:21,500
NARRATOR:
Cheney knew the Justice
Department had the power

1607
01:17:21,500 --> 01:17:24,125
to write a secret memo saying
that the administration

1608
01:17:24,125 --> 01:17:28,417
didn't need any warrants
for the new widespread spying.

1609
01:17:28,417 --> 01:17:31,250
Justice had been issued
the memo.

1610
01:17:31,250 --> 01:17:34,625
From time to time, there may
be something so sensitive

1611
01:17:34,625 --> 01:17:39,250
that you don't want
to raise the possibility

1612
01:17:39,250 --> 01:17:41,708
that it might be leaked,

1613
01:17:41,708 --> 01:17:46,332
there are some things
that need secrecy.

1614
01:17:46,332 --> 01:17:49,082
NARRATOR:
The administration now undertook
a massive program

1615
01:17:49,082 --> 01:17:51,917
of warrantless surveillance
on Americans.

1616
01:17:51,917 --> 01:17:54,833
Addington had taken charge
of the paperwork.

1617
01:17:54,833 --> 01:17:56,833
The president had to sign
an authorization every 30

1618
01:17:56,833 --> 01:18:00,082
or 45 days, or thereabouts,
to keep it going.

1619
01:18:00,082 --> 01:18:03,207
The program would have
automatically shut down any time

1620
01:18:03,207 --> 01:18:04,625
that approval wasn't granted.

1621
01:18:09,457 --> 01:18:10,792
It worked.
It was a good program.

1622
01:18:10,792 --> 01:18:13,166
I think it saved
a lot of lives,

1623
01:18:13,166 --> 01:18:17,375
and did a lot to allow us
to thwart prospective attacks

1624
01:18:17,375 --> 01:18:19,417
by Al Qaeda.

1625
01:18:19,417 --> 01:18:21,375
GELLMAN:
At the end of 2003,

1626
01:18:21,375 --> 01:18:24,457
two new people arrived
at the Justice Department.

1627
01:18:24,457 --> 01:18:26,833
One is Jack Goldsmith,

1628
01:18:26,833 --> 01:18:30,250
who becomes head of
the Office of Legal Counsel,

1629
01:18:30,250 --> 01:18:33,291
and there's a new deputy
attorney general, Jim Comey.

1630
01:18:33,291 --> 01:18:36,166
Jack Goldsmith starts to look
at this thing,

1631
01:18:36,166 --> 01:18:37,417
and the harder
he looks at it,

1632
01:18:37,417 --> 01:18:39,625
both the technical side
and legal side,

1633
01:18:39,625 --> 01:18:42,332
the more his head
starts to hurt.

1634
01:18:42,332 --> 01:18:44,457
SAVAGE:
Goldsmith and Comey
are conservatives,

1635
01:18:44,457 --> 01:18:46,125
they are Republicans.

1636
01:18:46,125 --> 01:18:50,000
They just simply happened
not to be adherent

1637
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:55,166
to the notion that the president
need not obey federal law.

1638
01:18:55,166 --> 01:18:58,792
The president signed up for it,
lawyers signed up for it,

1639
01:18:58,792 --> 01:19:02,000
the regional package
had been reviewed

1640
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,082
at the appropriate level
in the Justice Department,

1641
01:19:04,082 --> 01:19:07,041
and John Ashcroft
and others had signed up to it.

1642
01:19:07,041 --> 01:19:10,291
GELLMAN:
This debate begins
between Justice

1643
01:19:10,291 --> 01:19:12,250
and the Vice President's office,
primarily,

1644
01:19:12,250 --> 01:19:14,542
at the end of December, 2003.

1645
01:19:14,542 --> 01:19:17,792
It gets more and more intense
in January and February

1646
01:19:17,792 --> 01:19:19,708
and comes to a head in March.

1647
01:19:19,708 --> 01:19:22,457
NARRATOR:
Attorney General John Ashcroft
must sign off on the program

1648
01:19:22,457 --> 01:19:24,207
for it to continue.

1649
01:19:24,207 --> 01:19:26,291
But he'll only sign
if Comey and Goldsmith

1650
01:19:26,291 --> 01:19:28,542
tell him it's okay.

1651
01:19:28,542 --> 01:19:31,875
The deadline to renew
the program is drawing closer,

1652
01:19:31,875 --> 01:19:34,917
but Cheney does not tell Bush
of the growing resistance

1653
01:19:34,917 --> 01:19:37,542
at the Justice Department.

1654
01:19:37,542 --> 01:19:39,875
One week before the program
is due to expire,

1655
01:19:39,875 --> 01:19:41,542
Comey meets with Ashcroft.

1656
01:19:41,542 --> 01:19:45,207
GELLMAN:
Comey says, "Boss, we've worked
this through every way we can,

1657
01:19:45,207 --> 01:19:46,917
we think this,
this and this are illegal.

1658
01:19:46,917 --> 01:19:49,332
We don't think
you should sign off on it."

1659
01:19:49,332 --> 01:19:53,125
Ashcroft says, "Okay. Go tell
them to make those changes.

1660
01:19:53,125 --> 01:19:55,917
If they don't make those
changes, I'm not signing."

1661
01:19:57,582 --> 01:19:59,917
Hours after his conversation
with Comey,

1662
01:19:59,917 --> 01:20:02,792
Ashcroft is stricken
with acute pancreatitis.

1663
01:20:02,792 --> 01:20:04,750
He is rushed to the hospital

1664
01:20:04,750 --> 01:20:06,291
and hovers
on the brink of death.

1665
01:20:06,291 --> 01:20:08,542
CHENEY:
He suddenly decided
when he was sick,

1666
01:20:08,542 --> 01:20:10,625
that he was going to delegate
all this authority

1667
01:20:10,625 --> 01:20:14,375
to Comey and Comey was then
the acting attorney general.

1668
01:20:14,375 --> 01:20:16,750
NARRATOR:
The next day,
Goldsmith tells Addington

1669
01:20:16,750 --> 01:20:19,582
Justice won't recertify
the surveillance program.

1670
01:20:19,582 --> 01:20:23,082
It will now expire
in five days.

1671
01:20:23,082 --> 01:20:27,166
Three days later, Cheney meets
with Comey and Goldsmith.

1672
01:20:27,166 --> 01:20:30,792
ADDINGTON:
The chief of staff was there,
Vice President Cheney,

1673
01:20:30,792 --> 01:20:34,082
I was there.

1674
01:20:34,082 --> 01:20:38,750
GELLMAN:
Cheney says to Comey,
"How can you possibly reverse

1675
01:20:38,750 --> 01:20:41,375
the department's course
on something this critical

1676
01:20:41,375 --> 01:20:43,125
to the security
of the United States."

1677
01:20:43,125 --> 01:20:46,291
Comey looks Cheney
right in the eye and says,

1678
01:20:46,291 --> 01:20:49,000
"Just because you really want
it, doesn't mean it's legal.

1679
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:52,166
No lawyer who has looked
really hard at this thing

1680
01:20:52,166 --> 01:20:53,792
has said it's okay."

1681
01:20:53,792 --> 01:20:57,750
David Addington pipes up
and says, "I did."

1682
01:20:57,750 --> 01:21:02,833
Comey says,
"No good lawyer."

1683
01:21:02,833 --> 01:21:05,125
I'd call it tension
in the air, yeah.

1684
01:21:07,457 --> 01:21:08,833
ANNOUNCER:
Ladies and gentlemen,

1685
01:21:08,833 --> 01:21:13,000
the president
of the United States.

1686
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,833
NARRATOR:
In early March,
Bush is frequently away

1687
01:21:15,833 --> 01:21:19,457
from Washington,
campaigning for reelection.

1688
01:21:19,457 --> 01:21:20,917
The day before the deadline,

1689
01:21:20,917 --> 01:21:22,833
during a brief stop
in the capitol,

1690
01:21:22,833 --> 01:21:24,750
Cheney finally tells him that

1691
01:21:24,750 --> 01:21:27,000
the warrantless surveillance
program is in danger.

1692
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,332
GELLMAN:
Bush is given the impression

1693
01:21:29,332 --> 01:21:32,708
that Ashcroft's been signing
all along, but now his deputy

1694
01:21:32,708 --> 01:21:35,500
has got the steering wheel for
five minutes and won't do it.

1695
01:21:35,500 --> 01:21:37,625
He doesn't have any idea

1696
01:21:37,625 --> 01:21:40,041
there's been a three-month
controversy over this,

1697
01:21:40,041 --> 01:21:44,000
or that there are big,
substantive objections.

1698
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:48,000
NARRATOR:
That night, Comey and two-dozen
other top lawyers at Justice

1699
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,875
prepare to resign if the
administration continues spying

1700
01:21:50,875 --> 01:21:53,000
without warrants.

1701
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:54,958
It will be
the largest resignation

1702
01:21:54,958 --> 01:21:57,750
in the history of
the United States government.

1703
01:21:57,750 --> 01:22:01,917
It was Wednesday,
March 10, 2004.

1704
01:22:01,917 --> 01:22:04,542
And how do you remember
that date so well?

1705
01:22:04,542 --> 01:22:06,082
This was a...

1706
01:22:08,542 --> 01:22:12,375
very memorable period
in my life,

1707
01:22:12,375 --> 01:22:15,041
the most difficult time
of my entire professional life,

1708
01:22:15,041 --> 01:22:17,875
and that night was probably
the most difficult night

1709
01:22:17,875 --> 01:22:20,375
of my professional life.

1710
01:22:20,375 --> 01:22:23,500
NARRATOR:
The next day, without telling
Bush that mass resignations are

1711
01:22:23,500 --> 01:22:26,125
on the way,
Cheney advises the president

1712
01:22:26,125 --> 01:22:28,125
to reauthorize the program
without the approval

1713
01:22:28,125 --> 01:22:30,582
of the Department of Justice.

1714
01:22:30,582 --> 01:22:33,958
SAVAGE:
The president extended the
warrantless surveillance program

1715
01:22:33,958 --> 01:22:36,582
in the face of the new opinion
of the Justice Department,

1716
01:22:36,582 --> 01:22:37,875
that it was illegal.

1717
01:22:37,875 --> 01:22:41,500
The program was reauthorized
without us,

1718
01:22:41,500 --> 01:22:43,708
without a signature from
the Department of Justice

1719
01:22:43,708 --> 01:22:45,582
attesting as to its legality.

1720
01:22:45,582 --> 01:22:49,833
I prepared a letter of
resignation intending to resign.

1721
01:22:49,833 --> 01:22:51,917
I couldn't stay if
the administration was going

1722
01:22:51,917 --> 01:22:54,041
to engage in conduct that
the Department of Justice

1723
01:22:54,041 --> 01:22:55,917
said had no legal basis.

1724
01:22:55,917 --> 01:22:58,207
I simply couldn't stay.

1725
01:22:58,207 --> 01:23:02,082
GELLMAN:
George Bush doesn't know
what the stakes are.

1726
01:23:02,082 --> 01:23:05,082
You had, for example,
the chief of staff

1727
01:23:05,082 --> 01:23:07,457
of Attorney General Ashcroft
saying that he's going

1728
01:23:07,457 --> 01:23:09,833
to want to resign too,
as soon as he's healthy enough.

1729
01:23:09,833 --> 01:23:12,917
You have the director
of the FBI, Bob Mueller,

1730
01:23:12,917 --> 01:23:15,500
saying, "If Justice tells me
I can't participate in this,

1731
01:23:15,500 --> 01:23:18,207
I'm not going to, and if you
order me to, I'll also resign."

1732
01:23:18,207 --> 01:23:21,958
So the president now has
this unprecedented meltdown

1733
01:23:21,958 --> 01:23:23,625
happening at
the Department of Justice,

1734
01:23:23,625 --> 01:23:26,125
and he does not know it.
Nobody tells him.

1735
01:23:26,125 --> 01:23:29,125
This is March of 2004.
Elections coming in November.

1736
01:23:29,125 --> 01:23:31,457
This would have been the end
of Bush's presidency,

1737
01:23:31,457 --> 01:23:34,125
he would have been
a one-term president.

1738
01:23:34,125 --> 01:23:36,291
So the next morning, they have
the morning briefing,

1739
01:23:36,291 --> 01:23:39,291
the regular Friday briefing
on the terrorist threat,

1740
01:23:39,291 --> 01:23:41,792
and Condi Rice
tells the president,

1741
01:23:41,792 --> 01:23:43,833
"Something's on Jim Comey's
mind, he's a good man,

1742
01:23:43,833 --> 01:23:45,917
maybe you ought to check."

1743
01:23:45,917 --> 01:23:48,166
Bush takes him in to his private
dining room and he says,

1744
01:23:48,166 --> 01:23:51,958
"What's all this I hear
about you not signing?

1745
01:23:51,958 --> 01:23:55,750
How can you possibly, this
last minute, late in the game,

1746
01:23:55,750 --> 01:23:57,667
suddenly tell us it's no good?"

1747
01:23:57,667 --> 01:23:59,082
Comey is floored.

1748
01:23:59,082 --> 01:24:01,875
He says to the president,

1749
01:24:01,875 --> 01:24:04,332
"If your staff
is telling you that,

1750
01:24:04,332 --> 01:24:06,166
you are being
very poorly served."

1751
01:24:06,166 --> 01:24:10,332
Comey was planning on just
resigning, but he feels now that

1752
01:24:10,332 --> 01:24:13,375
the president doesn't
understand what's happening.

1753
01:24:13,375 --> 01:24:16,500
NARRATOR:
Bush tells Comey to change
the surveillance program

1754
01:24:16,500 --> 01:24:18,000
and make it legal.

1755
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:21,582
So what you've just had is,
in 24 hours,

1756
01:24:21,582 --> 01:24:25,166
the president of the United
States doing a complete 180.

1757
01:24:25,166 --> 01:24:27,125
He had, the day before,
signed an order that said,

1758
01:24:27,125 --> 01:24:29,582
"In your face,
despite your objections,

1759
01:24:29,582 --> 01:24:33,332
I'm authorizing this thing."
The next day, he caves and says,

1760
01:24:33,332 --> 01:24:35,582
"No mas,  I will do it the way
you say I'm allowed to do it.

1761
01:24:35,582 --> 01:24:39,041
I will stop doing the things
you say I can't do."

1762
01:24:39,041 --> 01:24:41,332
That is unprecedented
in American history.

1763
01:24:43,082 --> 01:24:45,542
CHENEY:
In the end, what ended up
happening,

1764
01:24:45,542 --> 01:24:47,708
revisions were made
to the program and so forth,

1765
01:24:47,708 --> 01:24:51,500
we had to adjust and adapt,
which we did.

1766
01:24:51,500 --> 01:24:54,041
My personal view, well,
was different in the sense

1767
01:24:54,041 --> 01:24:57,375
that I basically
would have let them resign.

1768
01:24:57,375 --> 01:24:59,958
Because I thought the program
was perfectly legitimate,

1769
01:24:59,958 --> 01:25:04,000
it was totally necessary,
it had been totally approved,

1770
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,332
and signed up to
twenty separate occasions

1771
01:25:06,332 --> 01:25:09,457
by the attorney general
of the United States. So--

1772
01:25:12,457 --> 01:25:14,542
NARRATOR:
In his memoir, Bush writes

1773
01:25:14,542 --> 01:25:18,041
"I never wanted to be
blindsided like that again."

1774
01:25:18,041 --> 01:25:21,207
GELLMAN:
Cheney is an anti-politician.

1775
01:25:21,207 --> 01:25:23,917
But no president
can be an anti-politician.

1776
01:25:23,917 --> 01:25:26,041
No president
can govern that way.

1777
01:25:26,041 --> 01:25:27,875
CHENEY:
If you're a man of principle,

1778
01:25:27,875 --> 01:25:30,250
compromise is a bit
of a dirty word.

1779
01:25:30,250 --> 01:25:32,291
President made
the decision that he wanted

1780
01:25:32,291 --> 01:25:34,457
to avoid major controversy.

1781
01:25:34,457 --> 01:25:37,582
It was his call.
So that's what we did.

1782
01:25:37,582 --> 01:25:38,958
Bush understood that this was

1783
01:25:38,958 --> 01:25:40,792
a mortal threat
to his presidency.

1784
01:25:40,792 --> 01:25:42,417
He understood for the first time

1785
01:25:42,417 --> 01:25:45,542
that Cheney had walked him
right to the edge of a cliff.

1786
01:25:45,542 --> 01:25:48,082
And it changed their
relationship forever.

1787
01:25:49,332 --> 01:25:50,917
NARRATOR:
The following month,

1788
01:25:50,917 --> 01:25:52,875
another crisis rocks
the administration.

1789
01:25:52,875 --> 01:25:54,917
[♪]

1790
01:25:59,457 --> 01:26:02,625
MALE REPORTER:
Americans did this
to an Iraqi prisoner.

1791
01:26:02,625 --> 01:26:05,291
NARRATOR:
The nation is shocked by photos
showing horrific abuses

1792
01:26:05,291 --> 01:26:08,792
by guards at the Abu Ghraib
prison in Iraq.

1793
01:26:08,792 --> 01:26:10,250
MALE REPORTER 2:
Ever since 9-11,

1794
01:26:10,250 --> 01:26:13,125
the new war on terrorism
with its new rules.

1795
01:26:13,125 --> 01:26:15,625
All eyes have been
on the United States--

1796
01:26:15,625 --> 01:26:18,542
FEMALE REPORTER 1:
Headlines around the world
screamed torture.

1797
01:26:18,542 --> 01:26:21,542
MALE REPORTER 3:
Defense Secretary Rumsfeld
personally approved

1798
01:26:21,542 --> 01:26:24,125
the use of guard dogs
to intimidate prisoners.

1799
01:26:24,125 --> 01:26:26,625
BUSH:
I shared a deep disgust,

1800
01:26:26,625 --> 01:26:29,833
those prisoners were treated
the way they were treated.

1801
01:26:29,833 --> 01:26:31,166
Everybody knew it was wrong

1802
01:26:31,166 --> 01:26:33,000
and the people involved
in doing it--

1803
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:35,750
primarily because they lacked
adequate supervision.

1804
01:26:35,750 --> 01:26:37,917
Ultimately, were dealt
with appropriately

1805
01:26:37,917 --> 01:26:40,332
under the uniform code
of military justice.

1806
01:26:40,332 --> 01:26:43,500
SAVAGE:
Questions remain about whether
what was happening in Abu Ghraib

1807
01:26:43,500 --> 01:26:44,792
was actually official policy.

1808
01:26:44,792 --> 01:26:47,000
Regardless,
it shook loose the fact

1809
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:48,875
that memos have been written

1810
01:26:48,875 --> 01:26:52,582
approving techniques like these
in certain circumstances

1811
01:26:52,582 --> 01:26:55,125
and it created a national debate

1812
01:26:55,125 --> 01:26:58,625
about whether the United States
was engaged in torture,

1813
01:26:58,625 --> 01:27:00,082
and if so, should it be?

1814
01:27:00,082 --> 01:27:02,250
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]

1815
01:27:02,250 --> 01:27:04,166
BECKER:
With Abu Ghraib

1816
01:27:04,166 --> 01:27:06,875
and some of the practices
at Gitmo,

1817
01:27:06,875 --> 01:27:12,542
became hugely embarrassing
to the administration.

1818
01:27:12,542 --> 01:27:14,332
Who is in charge
of the interrogations?

1819
01:27:14,332 --> 01:27:16,332
Did they have authority
over the guards

1820
01:27:16,332 --> 01:27:19,166
and what were the instructions
that they gave to the guards?

1821
01:27:19,166 --> 01:27:20,500
General Smith,
do you want to respond?

1822
01:27:20,500 --> 01:27:23,166
McCAIN:
No, Secretary Rumsfeld,
in all due respect,

1823
01:27:23,166 --> 01:27:25,457
you've got to answer
this question

1824
01:27:25,457 --> 01:27:27,958
and this is a pretty simple
straightforward question.

1825
01:27:27,958 --> 01:27:31,417
[♪]

1826
01:27:31,417 --> 01:27:33,833
NARRATOR:
Pressure's mounting
for Rumsfeld's resignation

1827
01:27:33,833 --> 01:27:36,667
both inside and outside
the administration.

1828
01:27:36,667 --> 01:27:39,250
FEMALE REPORTER:
There are new calls
for Rumsfeld to go.

1829
01:27:39,250 --> 01:27:41,417
Charlie Rangel,
Democratic congressman, said:

1830
01:27:41,417 --> 01:27:44,207
"If Rumsfeld does not resign,
he should be impeached."

1831
01:27:44,207 --> 01:27:46,667
For the benefit of the United
States, for our country,

1832
01:27:46,667 --> 01:27:49,625
I believe Mr. Rumsfeld
has to resign.

1833
01:27:49,625 --> 01:27:53,500
NARRATOR:
Rumsfeld sends a resignation
letter to Bush.

1834
01:27:53,500 --> 01:27:56,000
CHENEY:
President looked at making
a change in Defense

1835
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:57,958
and I argued against it.

1836
01:27:57,958 --> 01:27:59,542
Our policies in Iraq
were going well

1837
01:27:59,542 --> 01:28:02,417
and I thought we were doing
the right thing

1838
01:28:02,417 --> 01:28:05,375
and the strategy
that was being pursued

1839
01:28:05,375 --> 01:28:07,457
was the president's strategy.

1840
01:28:07,457 --> 01:28:10,457
NARRATOR:
Cheney issues a statement
defending Rumsfeld, saying:

1841
01:28:10,457 --> 01:28:13,291
"People should get off his case
and let him do his job."

1842
01:28:15,082 --> 01:28:18,417
Cheney convinces Rumsfeld
not to resign.

1843
01:28:18,417 --> 01:28:20,582
[CROWD CHEERING]

1844
01:28:25,708 --> 01:28:28,833
BUSH:
Saudi Arabia is making raids
and arrests.

1845
01:28:28,833 --> 01:28:31,875
Libya is dismantling
its weapons' programs.

1846
01:28:31,875 --> 01:28:35,332
The army of a free Iraq
is fighting for freedom

1847
01:28:35,332 --> 01:28:38,833
and more than three quarters
of Al Qaeda's key members

1848
01:28:38,833 --> 01:28:41,500
and associates have been
detained or killed.

1849
01:28:41,500 --> 01:28:44,082
[CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

1850
01:28:46,082 --> 01:28:50,041
NARRATOR:
Despite the ongoing war
and falling approval ratings,

1851
01:28:50,041 --> 01:28:54,250
Bush defeats John Kerry
to win re-election in 2004.

1852
01:28:54,250 --> 01:28:56,750
CHENEY:
This was an historic election.

1853
01:28:56,750 --> 01:28:58,250
And once again,

1854
01:28:58,250 --> 01:29:00,125
I have delivered
the state of Wyoming

1855
01:29:00,125 --> 01:29:02,207
for the Bush-Cheney ticket.

1856
01:29:02,207 --> 01:29:05,125
NARRATOR:
The two men shared the stage,
for the public celebration

1857
01:29:05,125 --> 01:29:07,000
but behind closed doors,

1858
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,500
the rift is growing
between Bush and Cheney.

1859
01:29:09,500 --> 01:29:11,457
ADDINGTON:
George Bush's two terms

1860
01:29:11,457 --> 01:29:13,417
were almost
two different presidencies.

1861
01:29:13,417 --> 01:29:15,875
The second term was rough
on both of them,

1862
01:29:15,875 --> 01:29:17,792
rough on their relationship,

1863
01:29:17,792 --> 01:29:20,792
it was rough on their
relationship with the cabinet,

1864
01:29:20,792 --> 01:29:23,875
it was rough on their
relationships with their staffs.

1865
01:29:23,875 --> 01:29:26,291
It's not about them, of course,
it's about the country.

1866
01:29:26,291 --> 01:29:28,250
But the country was going
through two wars

1867
01:29:28,250 --> 01:29:31,457
and having a tough time of it.

1868
01:29:31,457 --> 01:29:33,542
[♪]

1869
01:29:33,542 --> 01:29:35,625
NARRATOR:
In 2000, Bush had promised

1870
01:29:35,625 --> 01:29:38,332
to restore honor and integrity
to the White House.

1871
01:29:38,332 --> 01:29:41,375
He is frustrated by the ongoing
criminal investigation

1872
01:29:41,375 --> 01:29:44,207
of Cheney's chief of staff
Scooter Libby.

1873
01:29:44,207 --> 01:29:46,417
A few hours ago,
a federal grand jury,

1874
01:29:46,417 --> 01:29:48,833
sitting in District of Columbia,

1875
01:29:48,833 --> 01:29:51,917
returned a five count indictment
against I. Lewis Libby,

1876
01:29:51,917 --> 01:29:53,500
also known as Scooter Libby,

1877
01:29:53,500 --> 01:29:55,500
the vice president's
chief of staff.

1878
01:29:55,500 --> 01:29:58,250
NARRATOR:
Libby is indicted,
not for the leak itself,

1879
01:29:58,250 --> 01:30:00,291
but for lying to investigators.

1880
01:30:00,291 --> 01:30:04,041
CHENEY:
Scooter did not leak
that information.

1881
01:30:04,041 --> 01:30:06,291
The investigation should have
been closed at that point,

1882
01:30:06,291 --> 01:30:07,667
problem solved.

1883
01:30:07,667 --> 01:30:10,500
'Cause that was the issue that
they set out to investigate.

1884
01:30:10,500 --> 01:30:13,332
It was a very skillful
Washington insider

1885
01:30:13,332 --> 01:30:15,542
that served the vice president
pretty well.

1886
01:30:15,542 --> 01:30:17,958
I think that's one of the
reason's why people target him.

1887
01:30:17,958 --> 01:30:22,207
CHENEY:
Fitzgerald, once he got
appointed special prosecutor,

1888
01:30:22,207 --> 01:30:25,000
was determined to try to find
somebody in the White House

1889
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:26,041
that he could nail.

1890
01:30:26,041 --> 01:30:27,917
All he could come up with

1891
01:30:27,917 --> 01:30:30,542
through that whole effort
were charges against Scooter.

1892
01:30:30,542 --> 01:30:33,917
That he had misled
and obstructed justice.

1893
01:30:33,917 --> 01:30:36,166
NARRATOR:
Once the indictment
is announced,

1894
01:30:36,166 --> 01:30:40,708
Libby resigns, costing Cheney
his most senior aide.

1895
01:30:42,457 --> 01:30:44,500
News reports about the scandal
in Cheney's office

1896
01:30:44,500 --> 01:30:47,041
are a constant distraction
for President Bush.

1897
01:30:47,041 --> 01:30:50,041
But the news from Iraq
is much worse.

1898
01:30:50,041 --> 01:30:52,207
[♪]

1899
01:31:07,332 --> 01:31:12,917
By January 2006, the war has
dragged on for almost 3 years.

1900
01:31:12,917 --> 01:31:15,082
CHENEY:
We may well have
some kind of presence here

1901
01:31:15,082 --> 01:31:16,582
over a period of time,

1902
01:31:16,582 --> 01:31:18,457
but the level of activity
that we see today,

1903
01:31:18,457 --> 01:31:20,000
from a military standpoint,

1904
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:21,750
I think will clearly decline.

1905
01:31:21,750 --> 01:31:25,582
I think they're in the last
throes of insurgency.

1906
01:31:25,582 --> 01:31:28,667
NARRATOR:
Sectarian strife is rampant.

1907
01:31:28,667 --> 01:31:31,582
Shiite militias murder Sunnis
with impunity.

1908
01:31:31,582 --> 01:31:35,542
Al Qaeda in Iraq
kill Shiites daily.

1909
01:31:35,542 --> 01:31:38,667
500 Iraqi civilians
die that January.

1910
01:31:38,667 --> 01:31:41,582
Insurgent attacks
are up to 75 a day.

1911
01:31:41,582 --> 01:31:43,582
[GUNSHOT]

1912
01:31:43,582 --> 01:31:45,166
Sixty two Americans soldiers
are killed,

1913
01:31:45,166 --> 01:31:48,457
bringing the total to 2,243.

1914
01:31:48,457 --> 01:31:50,708
[CROWD PROTESTING]

1915
01:31:50,708 --> 01:31:52,291
American troops are now
in the middle

1916
01:31:52,291 --> 01:31:54,708
of a full-blown
Iraqi civil war.

1917
01:31:54,708 --> 01:31:56,542
MAN:
Get back! Get back!

1918
01:31:58,207 --> 01:32:00,041
POWELL:
We're not winning.

1919
01:32:00,041 --> 01:32:02,375
So it's grave and deteriorating
and we're not winning.

1920
01:32:02,375 --> 01:32:05,291
Um, we are losing.

1921
01:32:05,291 --> 01:32:08,082
This is the time now to start
to put in place the kinds

1922
01:32:08,082 --> 01:32:10,917
of strategies that will turn
this situation around.

1923
01:32:10,917 --> 01:32:13,708
[♪]

1924
01:32:13,708 --> 01:32:15,582
Rumsfeld and Cheney

1925
01:32:15,582 --> 01:32:18,708
say this war is not going
as badly as people say.

1926
01:32:18,708 --> 01:32:21,291
CHENEY:
I didn't think it was time
for us to be signaling

1927
01:32:21,291 --> 01:32:23,291
a change in policy.

1928
01:32:23,291 --> 01:32:25,792
Stock market's open.
The free press is there.

1929
01:32:25,792 --> 01:32:28,375
They've got television,
they've got radio, they've got--

1930
01:32:28,375 --> 01:32:30,417
Schools are open.

1931
01:32:30,417 --> 01:32:33,417
SUSKIND:
Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld,
they're almost like one person.

1932
01:32:33,417 --> 01:32:35,417
Brothers for decades.

1933
01:32:35,417 --> 01:32:37,542
Men who rise together,

1934
01:32:37,542 --> 01:32:39,582
men who finish
each other's sentences.

1935
01:32:39,582 --> 01:32:42,833
HAYES:
They've had this long
professional relationship,

1936
01:32:42,833 --> 01:32:45,750
but it was also a deeply
personal relationship.

1937
01:32:45,750 --> 01:32:49,082
There was a sense that they had
sort of an alliance based on

1938
01:32:49,082 --> 01:32:51,917
thirty years of working for
one another and friendship.

1939
01:32:51,917 --> 01:32:55,417
HAYES:
There's very little evidence
that Cheney went to Rumsfeld

1940
01:32:55,417 --> 01:32:58,833
and said, "Don, we've gotta
change course."

1941
01:32:58,833 --> 01:33:02,750
So many American soldiers
were killed,

1942
01:33:02,750 --> 01:33:04,708
so many Iraqis were killed,

1943
01:33:04,708 --> 01:33:08,667
Cheney should've been all over
Rumsfeld on this.

1944
01:33:08,667 --> 01:33:11,041
Went on, not just for months,
but for years.

1945
01:33:11,041 --> 01:33:14,000
Bush is losing faith
in Rumsfeld

1946
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:15,750
as a leader for the war.

1947
01:33:15,750 --> 01:33:19,917
He's no longer an effective
spokesman for the Pentagon.

1948
01:33:19,917 --> 01:33:23,582
Politically, they're facing
Congressional elections.

1949
01:33:23,582 --> 01:33:26,582
It now looks like the Democrats
will, in fact,

1950
01:33:26,582 --> 01:33:29,000
win control of the House
of Representatives.

1951
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:32,708
Disapproval of George Bush and
disapproval of the Iraq war--

1952
01:33:32,708 --> 01:33:34,457
I think they were one percentage
point apart.

1953
01:33:34,457 --> 01:33:36,332
So this is a referendum.

1954
01:33:36,332 --> 01:33:39,207
[♪]

1955
01:33:39,207 --> 01:33:42,082
Bush admits that we took
a thumping

1956
01:33:42,082 --> 01:33:48,708
and he decides
to dismiss Donald Rumsfeld.

1957
01:33:48,708 --> 01:33:52,250
WOODWARD:
He told Cheney and Cheney said,

1958
01:33:52,250 --> 01:33:54,332
"I don't agree
with that decision."

1959
01:33:55,708 --> 01:33:58,750
CHENEY:
The president took me aside
and said,

1960
01:33:58,750 --> 01:34:00,582
he didn't say,
"I'm thinking about it,

1961
01:34:00,582 --> 01:34:04,250
"I'm gonna make a change."
He didn't want another debate,

1962
01:34:04,250 --> 01:34:05,792
we had that debate
a couple of times.

1963
01:34:08,125 --> 01:34:09,875
President knew
how I felt about it,

1964
01:34:09,875 --> 01:34:14,792
and asked me if I wanted to be
the one to deliver the news.

1965
01:34:14,792 --> 01:34:17,750
That was easier for him.
He didn't have to do it.

1966
01:34:17,750 --> 01:34:21,625
But I also, um--
I was the right guy to do it.

1967
01:34:25,291 --> 01:34:27,667
[♪]

1968
01:34:50,917 --> 01:34:52,917
[AIRPLANE FLYING]

1969
01:34:52,917 --> 01:34:54,833
ANNOUNCER:
Good afternoon and welcome

1970
01:34:54,833 --> 01:34:56,457
to today's review in honor

1971
01:34:56,457 --> 01:34:58,291
of Secretary Defense
Donald Rumsfeld.

1972
01:34:58,291 --> 01:35:00,166
[BRASS BAND PLAYING]

1973
01:35:10,332 --> 01:35:13,625
CHENEY:
My first association
with Don Rumsfeld,

1974
01:35:13,625 --> 01:35:16,958
was one of life's
great turning points,

1975
01:35:16,958 --> 01:35:19,958
both professionally
and personally.

1976
01:35:19,958 --> 01:35:21,708
On the professional side,

1977
01:35:21,708 --> 01:35:24,291
I would not be where I am today

1978
01:35:24,291 --> 01:35:27,082
but for the confidence
that Don first placed in me

1979
01:35:27,082 --> 01:35:28,667
those many years ago.

1980
01:35:28,667 --> 01:35:30,375
And on the personal side,

1981
01:35:30,375 --> 01:35:32,875
it's enough to say
that I have no better friend

1982
01:35:32,875 --> 01:35:35,332
and ask for none.

1983
01:35:35,332 --> 01:35:37,667
I've never worked harder
for a boss

1984
01:35:37,667 --> 01:35:40,582
and I've never learned
more from one either.

1985
01:35:40,582 --> 01:35:43,582
I believe the records
speak for itself.

1986
01:35:43,582 --> 01:35:46,833
Don Rumsfeld is the finest
Secretary of Defense

1987
01:35:46,833 --> 01:35:49,082
this nation has ever had.

1988
01:35:49,082 --> 01:35:51,207
[CROWD APPLAUDING]

1989
01:36:05,041 --> 01:36:07,041
The way the history works,

1990
01:36:07,041 --> 01:36:09,708
you don't get a lot of credit
for what didn't happen.

1991
01:36:09,708 --> 01:36:12,125
This is one of
those kinds of situations,

1992
01:36:12,125 --> 01:36:14,375
it isn't so much
what you achieved

1993
01:36:14,375 --> 01:36:17,625
as is what you prevented.

1994
01:36:17,625 --> 01:36:20,500
How you safeguarded
against further attacks

1995
01:36:20,500 --> 01:36:21,917
against the United States.

1996
01:36:21,917 --> 01:36:23,625
I think that's
a major accomplishment.

1997
01:36:23,625 --> 01:36:25,457
Please.

1998
01:36:25,457 --> 01:36:27,542
FEMALE REPORTER:
Mindful of the frustrations

1999
01:36:27,542 --> 01:36:30,542
that many Americans
are expressing to you,

2000
01:36:30,542 --> 01:36:32,708
do you believe you need
to make any adjustments

2001
01:36:32,708 --> 01:36:34,082
on how you run the White House?

2002
01:36:34,082 --> 01:36:36,000
Many of your senior staff
have been with you

2003
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:37,207
from the beginning.

2004
01:36:37,207 --> 01:36:39,750
Uh, I've got a--

2005
01:36:39,750 --> 01:36:42,917
staff of people that have,
first of all,

2006
01:36:42,917 --> 01:36:45,708
placed their country
above their self interest.

2007
01:36:45,708 --> 01:36:47,667
HANSON:
Very popular administration

2008
01:36:47,667 --> 01:36:50,542
that had handled themselves
very well after 9-11

2009
01:36:50,542 --> 01:36:55,082
was suddenly becoming unpopular.
And it was not just unpopular

2010
01:36:55,082 --> 01:36:57,750
by every three months,
but by the day.

2011
01:36:57,750 --> 01:37:00,792
[♪]

2012
01:37:00,792 --> 01:37:03,833
HANSON:
Cheney's approach to foreign
policy and national security

2013
01:37:03,833 --> 01:37:08,375
put Bush in a position of real
danger in terms of his legacy.

2014
01:37:08,375 --> 01:37:11,082
Cheney's influence
was somewhat diminished

2015
01:37:11,082 --> 01:37:14,542
and Secretary of State
Condoleezza Rice

2016
01:37:14,542 --> 01:37:16,082
was very, very close
to the president.

2017
01:37:16,082 --> 01:37:18,250
It was sort of-- Her
influence was ascendant.

2018
01:37:18,250 --> 01:37:20,792
NARRATOR:
In the last two years
of the administration,

2019
01:37:20,792 --> 01:37:22,582
Cheney remains deeply worried

2020
01:37:22,582 --> 01:37:23,958
that rogue states will spread

2021
01:37:23,958 --> 01:37:26,207
weapons of mass destruction
around the world.

2022
01:37:26,207 --> 01:37:29,958
He advocates a hard line against
nuclear armed North Korea,

2023
01:37:29,958 --> 01:37:32,291
Rice prefers diplomacy.

2024
01:37:32,291 --> 01:37:34,750
CHENEY:
North Korea had tested weapons

2025
01:37:34,750 --> 01:37:36,457
and it was their first
nuclear weapons' test.

2026
01:37:36,457 --> 01:37:38,166
It was in the fall of '06.

2027
01:37:38,166 --> 01:37:41,750
Should've been some effective
sanctioned imposed

2028
01:37:41,750 --> 01:37:45,417
or some fairly
dramatic action taken.

2029
01:37:45,417 --> 01:37:47,667
Condi disagreed.

2030
01:37:47,667 --> 01:37:49,792
NARRATOR:
Bush chooses Rice's approach.

2031
01:37:49,792 --> 01:37:54,000
FEMALE REPORTER:
Are you concerned that hard
liners within the administration

2032
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:56,708
may undermine your efforts,
the State Department's efforts--

2033
01:37:56,708 --> 01:37:58,332
Well, I think
they said the efforts

2034
01:37:58,332 --> 01:38:01,207
of the United States government,
the last time I looked.

2035
01:38:01,207 --> 01:38:03,708
NARRATOR:
Cheney's concerns about
treating North Korea

2036
01:38:03,708 --> 01:38:05,417
too gently are soon realized.

2037
01:38:05,417 --> 01:38:07,250
The administration
obtains evidence

2038
01:38:07,250 --> 01:38:09,500
that North Korean scientists
are working on a new

2039
01:38:09,500 --> 01:38:12,166
nuclear reactor in Syria.

2040
01:38:12,166 --> 01:38:14,041
The reactor's
in the middle of the desert.

2041
01:38:14,041 --> 01:38:16,542
There's no population
around at any place.

2042
01:38:16,542 --> 01:38:20,000
They tried to hide it.

2043
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:22,041
You can't say
it's to generate electricity,

2044
01:38:22,041 --> 01:38:24,667
there's no power line
coming out of it.

2045
01:38:24,667 --> 01:38:28,000
It's just out there for
production of plutonium.

2046
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:30,500
You don't want Syria
to have that capability,

2047
01:38:30,500 --> 01:38:34,582
that they might be able to pass
along to Hamas or Hezbollah

2048
01:38:34,582 --> 01:38:36,166
or Al Qaeda.

2049
01:38:36,166 --> 01:38:38,500
[♪]

2050
01:38:38,500 --> 01:38:41,375
When the intelligence agencies

2051
01:38:41,375 --> 01:38:45,125
discovered that Syria was
building a reactor that could

2052
01:38:45,125 --> 01:38:49,417
soon make material
for nuclear weapons,

2053
01:38:49,417 --> 01:38:52,667
they had policy debates
about it.

2054
01:38:52,667 --> 01:38:58,082
CHENEY:
Condi recommended taking it
to the United Nations.

2055
01:38:58,082 --> 01:39:00,833
I strongly recommended
that we ought to take it out.

2056
01:39:00,833 --> 01:39:04,667
WOODWARD:
Cheney was just a voice alone

2057
01:39:04,667 --> 01:39:08,500
saying we have to attack
and destroy this reactor.

2058
01:39:08,500 --> 01:39:12,582
I thought it would sort of again
reassert the kind of authority

2059
01:39:12,582 --> 01:39:16,332
and influence
we had back in '03.

2060
01:39:16,332 --> 01:39:18,457
When we took down
Saddam Hussein

2061
01:39:18,457 --> 01:39:23,207
and eliminated Iraq
as a potential source of WMD.

2062
01:39:23,207 --> 01:39:26,750
There's certain lines out there
and you do not cross them.

2063
01:39:26,750 --> 01:39:29,250
And one of those lines
is you don't provide nuclear

2064
01:39:29,250 --> 01:39:31,582
technology
to terrorist-sponsoring states.

2065
01:39:31,582 --> 01:39:34,082
And Condi was on the wrong side
of all those issues.

2066
01:39:34,082 --> 01:39:36,041
So we had significant
differences.

2067
01:39:36,041 --> 01:39:38,750
CALABRESI:
Cheney was advising again,

2068
01:39:38,750 --> 01:39:43,332
a very robust and in this case,
unilateral strike against Syria.

2069
01:39:43,332 --> 01:39:47,166
CHENEY:
I argued in front of the group
and in front of the president,

2070
01:39:47,166 --> 01:39:49,082
got all through
making the case again

2071
01:39:49,082 --> 01:39:50,833
and I thought
I was rather eloquent.

2072
01:39:50,833 --> 01:39:55,875
At one point, President Bush
literally rolled his eyes.

2073
01:39:55,875 --> 01:39:58,250
CHENEY:
The president said,

2074
01:39:58,250 --> 01:40:00,792
"All right, how many people
agree with the vice president?"

2075
01:40:00,792 --> 01:40:03,417
And nobody put their hand up.

2076
01:40:05,582 --> 01:40:10,457
WOODWARD:
He was isolated
and quite irrelevant.

2077
01:40:10,457 --> 01:40:12,291
[♪]

2078
01:40:24,125 --> 01:40:26,625
NARRATOR:
In the waning days
of the administration,

2079
01:40:26,625 --> 01:40:28,958
Cheney presses Bush
one last time

2080
01:40:28,958 --> 01:40:31,917
over what Cheney considers
a vitally important issue.

2081
01:40:31,917 --> 01:40:34,041
REPORTER 1:
We do have news on

2082
01:40:34,041 --> 01:40:36,750
former White House aide
Lewis "Scooter" Libby,

2083
01:40:36,750 --> 01:40:39,792
he has been sentenced
to 30 months in prison.

2084
01:40:39,792 --> 01:40:43,958
NARRATOR:
In 2007, Scooter Libby had been
convicted of four felonies

2085
01:40:43,958 --> 01:40:46,125
relating to the Valerie Plame
scandal.

2086
01:40:46,125 --> 01:40:48,582
REPORTER 2:
Prosecutor Fitzgerald
told the court today,

2087
01:40:48,582 --> 01:40:52,667
"Libby's lies created a house
of mirrors for investigators."

2088
01:40:52,667 --> 01:40:54,708
And Fitzgerald implored
the judge to impose

2089
01:40:54,708 --> 01:40:58,166
a tough sentence to make it
clear that truth matters.

2090
01:40:58,166 --> 01:41:04,667
He was sentenced to 30 months
in prison, a $250,000 fine.

2091
01:41:04,667 --> 01:41:07,500
He did not want what was
going on in his office

2092
01:41:07,500 --> 01:41:11,166
and the vice president's office
where he worked to come out.

2093
01:41:11,166 --> 01:41:15,542
So there are a lot of fingers
pointing at Dick Cheney.

2094
01:41:15,542 --> 01:41:18,667
The most immediate question for
Libby, and therefore for Cheney,

2095
01:41:18,667 --> 01:41:20,667
was whether or not Libby
was going to jail.

2096
01:41:20,667 --> 01:41:23,000
CHENEY:
The president
commuted his sentence

2097
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:24,833
so he didn't have
to go to prison.

2098
01:41:24,833 --> 01:41:26,041
Which, when you think of it,

2099
01:41:26,041 --> 01:41:29,500
is an outrageous
proposition anyway.

2100
01:41:29,500 --> 01:41:31,542
But he wasn't pardoned.

2101
01:41:31,542 --> 01:41:34,500
NARRATOR:
The end of the administration
is swiftly drawing near.

2102
01:41:34,500 --> 01:41:36,708
Before he and Bush
leave office,

2103
01:41:36,708 --> 01:41:38,833
Cheney wants a full pardon
for Libby.

2104
01:41:38,833 --> 01:41:40,875
[♪]

2105
01:41:43,291 --> 01:41:46,667
CHENEY:
I know he got a lot of advice,
from inside, from his staff,

2106
01:41:46,667 --> 01:41:48,542
not to do it.

2107
01:41:48,542 --> 01:41:50,625
So I--
I was pretty much alone

2108
01:41:50,625 --> 01:41:52,125
in terms of my recommendation.

2109
01:41:57,332 --> 01:41:58,708
I pushed very hard for a pardon.

2110
01:41:58,708 --> 01:42:01,250
I thought a pardon
was appropriate.

2111
01:42:01,250 --> 01:42:03,166
But the president
made the decision

2112
01:42:03,166 --> 01:42:05,457
that there weren't going
to be any more pardons.

2113
01:42:07,417 --> 01:42:10,958
It stuck with Bush that Libby
had not been truthful.

2114
01:42:10,958 --> 01:42:13,250
And that he had gotten
the punishment that he deserved.

2115
01:42:13,250 --> 01:42:17,000
Bush was absolutely adamant

2116
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:20,542
that Libby
did not merit pardoning.

2117
01:42:20,542 --> 01:42:26,417
CHENEY:
That was--
That struck close to home.

2118
01:42:26,417 --> 01:42:28,082
I felt that we were leaving

2119
01:42:28,082 --> 01:42:31,500
a good man wounded
on the battlefield.

2120
01:42:31,500 --> 01:42:38,082
Cheney got right into Bush's
face, was very hot about it,

2121
01:42:38,082 --> 01:42:43,792
very insistent that it would be
dishonorable and disgraceful

2122
01:42:43,792 --> 01:42:46,166
not to pardon Libby.

2123
01:42:46,166 --> 01:42:49,082
CHENEY:
It was a major strain
on our relationship.

2124
01:42:49,082 --> 01:42:53,291
Obviously a source
of considerable friction.

2125
01:42:53,291 --> 01:42:59,833
And it got so bad,
that Bush said to aides,

2126
01:42:59,833 --> 01:43:02,750
"I don't want any more visits
by Dick Cheney.

2127
01:43:02,750 --> 01:43:07,125
I don't want to take
another phone call from him."

2128
01:43:07,125 --> 01:43:11,375
CHENEY:
President had the power
to fix it

2129
01:43:11,375 --> 01:43:14,417
and to make it right
and he chose not to.

2130
01:43:14,417 --> 01:43:17,166
The relationship
between Bush and Cheney

2131
01:43:17,166 --> 01:43:20,958
never recovered.
It has yet to recover.

2132
01:43:24,041 --> 01:43:30,291
WOODWARD:
Cheney, one of the monumental
figures in American politics,

2133
01:43:30,291 --> 01:43:33,000
in the end,
did not work as well.

2134
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:39,000
[CROWD CHEERING]

2135
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:41,875
I, Barack Hussein Obama,
do solemnly swear,

2136
01:43:41,875 --> 01:43:44,332
That I will execute...

2137
01:43:44,332 --> 01:43:47,332
CHENEY:
The last day after we had
the inaugural ceremony,

2138
01:43:47,332 --> 01:43:50,750
he and I departed
out to Andrew Air Force base.

2139
01:43:50,750 --> 01:43:56,500
ADDINGTON:
President Obama was kind enough
to allow one last flight

2140
01:43:56,500 --> 01:43:58,833
to take President Bush
home to Texas

2141
01:43:58,833 --> 01:44:01,332
and Vice President Cheney
home to Wyoming.

2142
01:44:01,332 --> 01:44:04,917
[♪]

2143
01:44:04,917 --> 01:44:09,125
A few of us, not many, flew home
to his Wyoming home.

2144
01:44:09,125 --> 01:44:11,375
I escorted him
and went in the car,

2145
01:44:11,375 --> 01:44:13,041
and I remember reaching in,

2146
01:44:13,041 --> 01:44:15,000
and shaking his hand and saying,

2147
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:17,332
"Mr. Vice President, on behalf
of a grateful nation,

2148
01:44:17,332 --> 01:44:21,332
thank you for your four years
of service to the country."

2149
01:44:21,332 --> 01:44:25,542
And the door closed
and he went off to his home.

2150
01:44:25,542 --> 01:44:29,457
That was sort of my last memory
of Dick Cheney, serving him.

2151
01:44:32,917 --> 01:44:35,375
[RIVER FLOWING]

2152
01:44:41,041 --> 01:44:43,417
[♪]

2153
01:44:55,207 --> 01:44:57,125
CHENEY:
I don't run around thinking,

2154
01:44:57,125 --> 01:44:59,500
"Gee, I wish we'd done this,
or I wish we'd done that."

2155
01:44:59,500 --> 01:45:03,375
The world is as you find it,
you gotta deal with that.

2156
01:45:03,375 --> 01:45:06,457
And you get one shot,
you don't get do-overs.

2157
01:45:06,457 --> 01:45:08,582
So I don't spend a lot of time
thinking about it.

2158
01:45:10,833 --> 01:45:14,792
I think, because
the president wanted it to be

2159
01:45:14,792 --> 01:45:17,708
a consequential vice presidency,
it was.

2160
01:45:17,708 --> 01:45:21,750
I think we did a very
commendable piece of work.

2161
01:45:21,750 --> 01:45:23,958
Under difficult circumstances,

2162
01:45:23,958 --> 01:45:26,667
with a full understanding
it wasn't popular with everybody

2163
01:45:26,667 --> 01:45:29,041
and we were gonna take
a lot of incoming fire.

2164
01:45:29,041 --> 01:45:33,000
MAN:
For the people who don't like
Dick Cheney,

2165
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:34,917
they're gonna see him
as the Darth Vader

2166
01:45:34,917 --> 01:45:37,625
he always was during
the Bush administration.

2167
01:45:37,625 --> 01:45:40,958
On the other hand, I think there
are a lot of people who see him

2168
01:45:40,958 --> 01:45:45,708
as the leading edge of the Bush
administration's efforts

2169
01:45:45,708 --> 01:45:48,291
to insure that there wasn't
another large scale attack

2170
01:45:48,291 --> 01:45:50,582
on the United States
and for that group,

2171
01:45:50,582 --> 01:45:51,792
they'll be very grateful.

2172
01:45:54,542 --> 01:45:58,457
Cheney is maybe
in a Venn diagram of one,

2173
01:45:58,457 --> 01:46:01,750
of people who are geniuses
at political power,

2174
01:46:01,750 --> 01:46:05,667
at understanding and acquiring
power, and who are zealots.

2175
01:46:05,667 --> 01:46:07,125
If you have someone who is both,

2176
01:46:07,125 --> 01:46:09,457
he's gonna move the needle
in history.

2177
01:46:13,917 --> 01:46:16,457
CHENEY:
I don't lay awake
at night thinking,

2178
01:46:16,457 --> 01:46:18,625
"Gee, what are they gonna say
about me now?"

2179
01:46:18,625 --> 01:46:21,291
I didn't worry about it a lot
when I was doing it,

2180
01:46:21,291 --> 01:46:25,041
and I thought,
the best way to get on

2181
01:46:25,041 --> 01:46:28,500
with my life and my career was
to do what I thought was right.

2182
01:46:31,667 --> 01:46:36,166
And I did what I did,
it's all on the public record,

2183
01:46:36,166 --> 01:46:39,166
and I feel very good about it.

2184
01:46:43,000 --> 01:46:46,500
If I had to do it over again,
I'd do it in a minute.




